The Debrief - Hairy Toes, Flash Your Tits & Spa Trips

Episode Date: June 26, 2023

Welcome to the Debrief! We are Kitty and Katie, two gals trying to navigate life in our 20's living in London and wanting to bring you along for the ride. We're here to cover everything from nights out, to career goals, to bad dates, and everything in between. We hope you enjoy, Monday’s are about to get a whole lot better.Want to debrief with us? Email [e-mail] or DM us on instagram @the.debriefpodcastLots of love,Kitty and Katie x Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hello! Good morning, my little Monday Rises. Happy Monday. It's Monday, it's the start of the week, Katie. Start of the week, are we feeling fresh? Are we feeling funky? Early bird catches that worm. Oh, yeah. Do you think you'd be a worm? Yeah, K2. Start of the week. Are we feeling fresh? Are we feeling funky? Early bird catches that worm. Oh, yeah. Do you think you'd be a worm? Yeah, I would.

Yeah. Potentially a caterpillar. Oh, actually, have you seen Bugs Life? Yeah. I'm a little butterfly. That'd be you. You know, he comes out and he's like... Yeah.

He's like, I'm a beautiful butterfly. Yeah, that'd be you. That would be me. That'd be the bird catching you. Yeah, you would. You'd be coming to my aid. I'd be a blue tit or a robin red breast. Yeah, I was. I could see you more as a magpie because you do love to take. Oh, actually, that is quite a good one. Anything I see that's shining. I think that's a bit of me. Right Katie we've got so much to talk about this week from last week that is so exciting so I think we should just crack on. Let's just crack on. Mantra time. This is a Jane Leach special.

Shout out to mum of the pod. Oh Jane Leach. Mumma Leach. And she said, Katie, my energy always speaks for me before I do. And I thought, what a lovely thing. Explain this to me. As in when you walk into a room, the energy you bring in says something before you even speak. She goes always, you know, carry yourself in the right way. Wow. Because as you enter a room if you come in with bad vibes everyone can sense it so allow yourself to be enough before you have

to even say anything absolutely fill the space shit that's really exciting i was like do you know what i was like man that's gonna be my mantra on the pod oh i love that jane yeah jane actually has it going she's got it it. That is so nice. Imagine feeling, being able to trust yourself that much to be like, I will go in this room and radiate success, energy, confidence. Yeah. I love that.

Nice one, Jane. So that's what I'm going to be doing this week. I'm going to be letting my energy speak for me well you we have to do well i've got to yeah we've got an event coming up so i've simply got to yeah yeah absolutely 100 kids mcneil whack it my way i'll whack it to you yeah right so my mantra this week okay it's actually quite similar to yours okay in a way but my mantra of this week is I am in charge of how I feel. I really like that. So this sat quite heavily with me this week because I think sometimes you're like,

you can get yourself really wound up with certain things. So I need to do this and this and then how is this going to go? And it's like, why are you stressing over something that you are actually in control over? Yes. And I think that's something my dad always says to me as well that I reflect on a lot. He's like, you can only stress over things that you can control. Absolutely. And I'm like, that's so true.

He's like, why are you focusing on that when you can't control that? Yeah. You know? Yeah. on that when you can't control that yeah you know yeah and so I think if I make myself believe that everything's okay that I'm in control that I can work things out I'm in charge of how I lead the way yeah of the of what's coming up this week 100% then everything's easy breezy fine breezy lemon fucking squeezy that's the one I was going for I genuinely think it's it's one of those things though where you're like the only person that's choosing to be stressed over this right now is me.

I do this a lot where I'm like, oh my God, I'm so stressed. I'm like, but you don't have to be stressed. It's an overwhelming amount. Yeah. And you have lots to get through and lots to do. But couldn't that be exciting? Yeah. Kitty, tell me about your week.

Oh my gosh. I have had the funniest, weirdest, most exciting week ever. Please. On the weekend, over the weekend, my long-time friend from school and I went to a festival together. And you're such a sethead as well that I knew. I knew. One thing you love is fucking raging out.

Yeah, love it. And camping. I love camping. I love it. Yeah, yeah. How was that? I'm literally like, the wilderness must be explored. I'm like, here I am.

Yeah. Wilderness explorer. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So we arrived and we have to, first of all, her and I are looking at each other. We have to first of all her and I are looking at each other we have to carry our bags to this campsite

which is about a four mile walk oh for course I'm like what is going on sweating yeah I'm like everyone's in their little itsy bitsy outfits

I'm like how do people keep their boobs in these outfits while you're plugging these big you know we had a trolley actually

so we put all of our stuff in a trolley and just pulled it along went on a pilgrimage yeah honestly we got there and before we'd even got into the bloody thing we had to wait two and a half hours in the blistering heat oh blistering heat how come because there were so many people queuing up to get in

oh fuck I hate a queue so anyway I hadn't eaten that day so I started feeling a bit a bit dizzy I see stars so then I stop seeing a bit dizzy. I see stars. I say, I'm starting to see black spots. My friend's like, oh for fuck's sake, she's like, sit down. She starts asking people around, has anyone got any snacks? Anything off the trolley there? So she starts going around, she comes back with a tube of Pringles, she's like, bullseye. Bullseye. She's like, bullseye. She's like, they weren't already salted. But it's, you know, we can put up with that.

Which ones were they? The green ones. Oh, I love the green ones. Yeah, yeah, they're so nice. Arguably the best Pringles. Yeah, yeah. They make your lips tingle though. It's like sour cream.

So anyway, we got through. I've never put up a tent in my life. But I had my good friend with me who's well equipped in the wilderness. Yeah. So we have this tent and we're looking at each other and there's that moment. So we have this tent and we're looking at each other and there's that moment of we put the tent down

and we just looked at each other and we're like. It's like what the fuck do we do here? What do we genuinely do? Anyway, Katie, we- How long does it take you to put up that tent? Well, we did have assistance. We did have some help. Did you play damsel in distress?

We did, we did. We absolutely did. Feminism you play damsel in distress we did we absolutely did feminism's all there until you have to put up your own tent then you think you know what fuck it I'm incapable of everything

in this life honestly Katie I have to say to you that the festival the camping experience wow wow

it was a lot and we we tapped out we tapped out i did one night of camping and we thought this isn't for me this isn't for me we literally we had these are three nights of camping we did one one night of camping yeah we literally got into the tent it was fucking freezing it was like it was literally the Titanic did you have enough every night we were freezing

going to sleep it is cold like that my friend tells me and she's like fuck this should we go tomorrow anyway we wake up

everyone's having ciggies like taking drugs getting ready for the day yeah we start taking our fucking tent down you know at this point

thanks guys thanks guys everyone sees us and they're like laughing and they're like, oh, had enough already, have you?

And we're like, yes. Yep. Yes, yes we have. We're on our way out. They're like, someone can't have the session.

You're like, no. No. No, I've got to go. It was more than that. Okay, so let me tell you,

the first date was brilliant because you set up your shitty tent and then you walk away from it because you have a great day partying and get, you know, yeah. Did yeah do they have good food well not for a gluten free person they don't which was really not but it was all greasy pizza and so probably stuff that's good for the festival you just need to carb up if you're drinking loads yeah anyway my friend and i drank a lot she was slaughtered she was absolutely slaughtered to the point of this big group of boys

and pitched up next to us she's slaughtered this point anyway she puts out her chair and she's just admiring and watching them and she says hello boys she says you're a bit late to the party anyway they're putting up their tent one of them goes inside of the tent because you have to zip up the inside of the tent yeah yeah that kind of stuff so he's trying to make the tent she grabs the outside tent holds it down like cat and mouse so he can't get out and he starts he starts like calling for his friends like boys boys boys boys and she's like holding it down looking at me holding it down she's like what the the fuck is going on? Anyway, he comes out of the tent and she says, right, you know what?

You can buy me a drink later if you like. And he's literally like, what the fuck? And I literally sat there pissing myself off. I fucking love it. What is going on? I love it. So the first day was great because we're partying, having a lot of fun. Spirits are high.

Spirits are high. We're loving it. Yeah. It's so good. And then you get into the tent and you think, fuck this. Did you have a sleeping bag?

Yeah, I had a sleeping bag. I had a little mattress. What colour was the sleeping bag? It was red. Danger. Danger. Danger in the manger. Danger in the manger.

Honestly. Now, I've heard that it's funny that you say because I've had it before. I've been camping a few times because i was a girl guide yeah i did guide camps i did brownie camps i was a brownie hand a girl guide i again i'm committed to the cause the brownie guide law i have it i've got a sash well i've got my badges wow so i used to camp every year. Wow. I'm sorry.

And the thing, the key is, and I wouldn't do it necessarily at guide camp, but you could do it on like D of E if you're... Okay. Is apparently the less you wear when you sleep, the warmer you'll be. Nah, piss off. So I'd sleep...

Piss off. I'd sleep in my panties. Piss off. Because I used to... The less you wear, the warmer you'll be. No, no, because I used to rug up. I'd have all. You're taking this information out of your butt crack.

I'm not. I'm not. Yeah. I'm telling you. I'd have all the bells and whistles on. I'd have like two like tops, jumper, a pair of leggings, trackies, three pairs of socks. And I'd be like. That was me.

trackies, three pairs of socks and I'd be like... That was me. However, once you just take those socks off and start slipping off layer by layer and sleeping the little... The sleeping bags keep the heat in. Ah, okay. So then you just have to commit to being cold at the start but then you wake up less cold.

The worst thing about it though is like you have to fully de-robe and then go walk to go for a wee and i drink so much water that's this is this was the thing that tipped us over the edge actually because we were so cold and then i was like i need a wee so she was like right i'll come with you yeah i have to walk for fucking miles to these toilets anyway you get there oh my i bet they're disgusting oh my god people have told me what the state of the toilets would be like

yeah but I honestly had not comprehended you open these bleh there's a waft a waft before you even go in

there were about six toilets you couldn't go in because they were filled with shit oh were they portaloos portaloos

portaloos condoms everywhere vomit everywhere anyway we get into these toilets. She's next door to me, I'm next door. And I start hearing her, she goes, and I'm like, can you not do that?

She said it'll set me up. So then I go, and she goes, she goes, ah, it stinks. And then I'm like, like this. And people, someone on the outside, they knock and they're like,

are you all right? Yes, thank you. outside, they knock and they're like, are you all right? Yes, thank you. Katie, revolting. Absolutely revolting. Disgusting. I genuinely think, what are you guys eating? I'm like, it's the alcohol. I will be one of them.

It's what the term is. The Alka-Pops. Yeah, the Alka-Pops. But revolting. That is revolting. So anyway, we wake up that morning and we go to the spa. Yeah, there it is. We went to the spa.

There it is. Not any old spa, guys. Ragdale Hall Spa. I don't even know. I've never heard of this spa. Tell you who's there. Who? Anthony Joshua.

Did you see him? Yeah. Fuck off. I know. So we'd literally been wiping our arses on the bloody gravel for the past two days. Oh, Katie, we stank. Anyway, went off to the spa. Katie, it was from rags to riches.

We were living our best lives. You've got Lumiere at the front. He's like, hello, women. Welcome to, you know, Ragdale Hall Spa. I will do anything in my capacity to make this day beautiful for you wow wow i was like really that's that great i was like well if you could you know spray me this yeah push me in the shower that'd be great he's telling us all about the different pools he's telling us all about the different sensory saunas and um steam rooms I'm thinking this is

back to serenity back to blah you'll never be able to look at a tent again without getting a shiver down your spine no never I thought you planned it and then planned to go to the spa in the day and I thought that's a very Kitty McNeil thing to do and then come back to the snish

and then I came home and I was like gosh this looks lovely they're at the spa and they're not yeah they've came home and I was like gosh this looks lovely they're at the spa and then Archie's like yeah they've gone home and I was like so Katie Leach tell me about your weekend what have you done my week last week has been you know pretty good I've been at work you know on the grind yes you know bringing in that bacon we do have an event coming up at the weekend you've got Archie's 21st we have Archie's 21st I don't know if you've noticed I do have a bit coming up at the weekend. We've got Archie's 21st. We have Archie's 21st. Very exciting.

I don't know if you've noticed, I do have a bit of a glow on me because I did get a spray tan. She did. I went to go get waxed and a spray tan. Yeah. And now let me tell you, I have not got a wax in ages.

Ages and ages and ages. Probably about a year and a bit. Oh my God, it's held that well. Well, I was shaving in between. All right, I was shaving in ages. Ages and ages and ages. Probably about a year and a bit. Oh my god it's hell down low. Well I was shaving in between! Alright, I was shaving in between. I can't have our listeners think that I'm uncut. I went to go get... nipples waxed? Nipples and my legs. So I was a bit nervous, I was a bit shaky, I was trembling.

And I tell you, when I went in, I embarrassed myself. There's a TV there that has Netflix on. Very, very lovely. And she's like, oh, what do you want? And I'm like, start rambling off. I'm like, oh, friends would be great. I really like friends, but are you watching any box sets at the moment? Because, like, if you're watching any box sets, I'll happily carry on watching whatever you're watching.

Like, I'm absolutely, like, down. Like, I don't really mind. Such a people pleaser. And then she was like, no, like, what do you want? Like, do you want Hollywood? Do you want a Brazilian? And I was like... That's so embarrassing.

And she's like, friends. So what do you want? I'm like, friends, please. But, like, what else are you watching? That's all I want in life just friends friends yeah so i used to get waxed at this um place in york they were the best they would call anyone in the york area go to prepped they are the nicest people there but the woman who used to wax me was genuinely like you're doing amazing lovely you're doing so well you're you're amazingly. And I feel like I just got upset

that I didn't really get that. She'd literally be tearing the hair away from my vaheen and was like, you're fine. And I'm like, yeah, I know I'm fine. But like, just tell me how well I'm doing because it was really painful. Yeah, I want you to be cheerleading me on. Yeah. The thing that made me howl was that I was getting my legs waxed. She was at my ankles, like waxing my shins and my ankles. Oh, all the ankles. And then I hear her go like,

So I'm thinking like, oh my God, like what? So I'm sat there. God, you don't want to hear that when you're getting yourself waxed. She goes like, then she starts applying wax to my toes. I can't. I physically can't. It can't be so embarrassing. I physically can't. Every time I think about it the more I want to die of embarrassment. Oh my God.

Wait, two more toes like that and she puts a bit of wax on each toe. She puts a bit of wax on each toe and she's like, getting them. And I'm like, the fact, A, I didn't ask.

I'm going to put it out to the debrief. Like, full disclosure, I will shave my toes. I will. They're not unkept. They're not, they're not grotty. But I say like, if I'm wearing an open-toe shoe, I will give them a quick warm-sover with the razor. However, it's the fact that she fucking waxed them. That's a step too far. I was like, that, that is a violation. I think the thing that's most debasing about getting wax,

especially like a bikini, because she was like, do you want the backside? I'm like, excuse me. Excuse me. You're like, I haven't heard that before. Yeah, I haven't heard that in a long time. I'm sorry. You're like, what can you offer?

So then I was like, I originally, because the actual Hollywood was so painful, I was like, do you know what? I don't want to put my arsehole through this. And she was like, most people who get them will get the backside, so I recommend you do. So I'm like, okay. And everywhere's different,

but it's the fact that you're having to get in literal, like, doggy. I now feel really smooth. Imagine she was waxing your cheeks and then she stopped waxing your back. She goes... Then you'd be like, do you know what, cheeky bitch? Nah, nah, nah. I've had enough of that.

Too far, too far. Yeah, that was a step too far. I've got something brilliant to tell you. So... Oh my God, of course. So last. So last night I went to go see Archie's mum in a performance. Now I love this woman. She is an incredible woman. But what we went to go see her in is she's been doing an MA in drama therapy. Oh my god, amazing. Yeah, really, really interesting. She's a really, really creative woman.

Yeah. But also she is so compassionate and very giving of her time to people. So the combination of that creative side as well as that kindness and compassion was perfect for drama therapy. Absolutely. Anyway, so she's been doing this MA for a few years and a part of the course they have this final exam Yeah, they have the showing which is like a series a mini series of their performances each person has to do about five to ten minutes of a Performance showing their Experience of the course. Okay, so it's very individual, very personal, and each performance was very, as I said,

very individual to their journey. So was it, is it a mixture, is it a performance that intertwines therapy? Not really. It was more how they found the course. Right. So, for example, the first girl that did theirs, she had incorporated that at the start, it was during COVID.

Right. And then during it, there was going to be a lack of funding. And she incorporated all of this because there was that period of they weren't sure if the course was going to carry on because of funding. So she incorporated stuff at the start to do with Boris and COVID and there was that music to do with that. And then there was a lack of funding

and she ripped things to shreds. So it was really individual. And then someone else had made the course as a metaphor for an escape room. So at the start, she had like a projection of herself saying, welcome to the escape room. So at the start she had like a projection of herself saying welcome to the escape room. I want you to remember that the outside world will always be there while you entrap yourself in challenges and so that was really interesting really really interesting.

Anyway so Archie's mum was the last to perform and I was so excited because I knew she was gonna do something fabulous. She's got such a creative side. So she did a lot of movement in hers. And there were a lot of songs. Oh, wow. Was she singing? No, no, she wasn't singing.

She was doing lots of movement. And she had lots of, you know, she had these two pink balloons and one blue balloon, which represented her two daughters and arch which i thought was so beautiful yeah it was really really beautiful um that would have meant so much as well that they were there yeah yeah i felt really emotional watching i was so proud of her but what an incredible journey you saw her as a mother growing as a mother and what that was like bringing up these kids you know these little balloons and she had these dungarees on and she starts off as a little toddler and she comes on doing this

movement and then she takes these balloons and she like puts them in the dungarees and you can see her because she puts one on the boobs and one on the tummy and you see her trying to oh sit down when she's pregnant and it's like really great seeing this development as a woman I thought wow really interesting anyway then you see she like takes these balloons back out of the dungarees and she's now giving birth to these, but she's trying to protect them. You know, she's really trying to protect them. There was this hilarious moment, actually, where she's trying to put these balloons on a block and push the block

and it's showing bringing her babies into the well, trying to be a good mum, and the blue balloon starts to run off. And she has to go across the stage and grab it and pull it back and oh she's like me it's me she's like see she's always wanting to get a closet to me i was like oh this is the land anyway so she goes through this bit and at the end she's got this really sexy song on really sexy song and she's put the balloons to a side. And you now see her as a woman. Like, you see her as a developed mother. I loved it.

It was incredible. Like, I honestly had goosebumps, and I felt so emotional. I was sat there like, wow. And she has these dungarees, and she like, you know, goes like that a bit and shows a bit of her shoulder,

and she starts doing this. It was really sexy. Because she's no longer. She's no longer. She's taken the labels off. She's just a woman. She's a woman and she's there for herself. And how this course has made her become this.

And that's what you saw. I love that. This journey of struggling and maybe childlike symptoms and childlike qualities of going back to the original state that you were and trying to bring these kids up and reflecting on yourself but then you know being like fuck it this is me and you saw that at the end this is me anyway she gets up on this stage and she gets up on this block so and her back's towards the block she takes this robe off and she goes unclips these dungarees and we see her from behind un unclip her bra, she takes her bra off, swings it around, throws it to the back of the audience and we're all like,

woo! Do you catch it? Yeah, I'm like, give it to me! I'm like, oh my god, this is amazing. Ballsy! She turns around and her tits are out. I was like, you are fucking incredible. I was like, everyone, everyone went mad.

We were all like, woo! Archie was sat next to me and he just went, oh, mum. She bugs his head on me and he just turns and goes, oh, mum. I was, I mean, I've seen Archie's mum naked quite a few times. You know, she's a very, very confident woman. But this was just, what a piece of theatre. I thought, you go, girl, you go. Fuck.

And the good thing is, it was done in such, I'm sorry, but it was done in such a beautiful way. Yeah. You know, there was no crass about it. It wasn't, you know, it wasn't inappropriate. It was so raw actually Yeah, because she showed she showed that journey through the piece of being a woman and how it was really hard on her body And emotionally but now it's like fuck it. This is me. This is this is how it's made me

This is how it's changed my body. But look at me. I'm still standing and I'm so I honestly could cry. Katie was amazing I wish she could have seen it So then when she but the seen it. Oh my God, I wish I could have been there. So then when she, but the way it was done was so, it was just brilliant. It was really, really brilliant. It wasn't like she just walked on tiptoe. No, no. There was a, it was really symbolic.

And there was a journey as well. It was a 10 minute journey of seeing her go through this process and how she struggled with, I mean, you would. I think anyone who does a course like drama therapy or therapy in general has got to have a lot of depth to them yeah and clearly have been through things to be able to empathize and sympathize and put themselves in situations um where they can be vulnerable and that was vulnerable but something she said really interesting to me afterwards was she said look yes i got my tit out on the stage and she says that is not the most vulnerable i felt during this course. You know, that is not, she says I felt way more vulnerable

than getting my tit out in front of people. And I thought, well, you know, it's relevant then. It really is. We've got Archie's party coming up this weekend, Katie. We've got Archie's party. So much prep. So Katie is gonna be a top shagger. I'm gonna try my best, guys.

Katie wants to shag, don't you, Katie? The problem is, is that I always do this, that I get too excited and then I bottle it. She's got a tan done, she's got her legs and puss waxed and her toes thank god and the toes! That would have been so embarrassing. The dress is stunning, you're gonna look incredible I'm really hoping that I'm gonna look good. You're gonna look stunning. Because I get so nervous with social situations, especially. And maybe I'm just like too, maybe I overthink too much, I think.

I overthink situations to the point where like, I'm just then terrified. So it's like stuff with like clubbing and all that, like I'll never approach a guy, and if a guy does approach me, I'm like, ma! I never know what to do with myself. So I feel like I'm just reminding myself,

hey, like literally nothing is that deep. Like literally why are you getting yourself so stressed? That's so silly. So I'm like, it's so exciting for this weekend just to have like some nice chats. I'm gonna just try out my flirtatious chat. Remember Katie, give them the eyes. Yeah, I keep hearing this. Not the jester. I think I give guys the eye. I say Katie, give them the eyes. Yeah, I keep hearing this.

Not the jester. I think I give guys the eye. I say Katie, give that boy the eyes, and she's like. I'm like, don't blink. Don't blink. So this time next week, guys, basically what I want to say

is that I want Katie to tell us about the shock she's had. That I've had a romantic. I've taken a man for the night. Yeah, oh gosh. Do you know what? Even if nothing happens, I still want to try and put myself out there a bit more. I'm just dipping my toe in.

Yeah. I feel like... Because we've got other things coming up this summer. Yeah, I just think... That could almost set you up. Like, you think, oh, my God, I got so much confidence from that. Yeah. That now I feel I can...

And I think it's one of those things that I feel like I need kind of exposure therapy to the point where, like, guys, I feel like I'm, like, healing, and I'm like, oh, look at me in my single girl era, but I feel like I've potentially healed too much. I agree. And I'm... I think there's been too much reflection.

And now I feel like I'm so comfortable in my own company that now, like, if anyone comes towards me i'm like oh that's stressful yeah that's stressful because i literally am so out of the game yeah so now i'm just trying to like it's like pre-game yeah yeah you're warming up i'm like and this is a great time to get your confidence back up yeah because i think you've got so much confidence in yourself in your ability for your career but i think when it comes to relationships and men and where you stand there, your confidence drops. No, absolutely.

So I think this is a great time to get your confidence up. Oh, my God. What? Oh, my God. What? Because we're doing a surprise. I'm going to have to talk about this really quickly. Oh, my God, yeah, because it will come out.

I'm going to have to talk about this really quickly. Yes, oh, my God, yes. Okay, so right now, Arch doesn't know this is happening. But when it comes out, it'll already have happened. But me and both of his sisters at his party are doing a super trooper for him. The costumes look amazing. We're doing the costumes, the boots. We've got a full routine.

Super trooper. So we're doing it like the 21st party. I'm excited to see it. It's so exciting. So we're going to have to sneak out of our dresses, go back and then get into our costumes. It's gonna be so fun. It's gonna be really good. I'm so excited. Right, Katie Leitch, should we get on to Iggs? Let's get into it. Okay, I've got two. How many have you got? One. Okay, so first one actually has been one that's been written in.

one okay so first one actually has been one that's been written in this is written in so this is very exciting oh my god okay so this is when a guy is at a barbecue wait for it and he rests his plate on his lap but he has to put his tiptoes up. Oh my God! No, that's so real. Isn't it so real? I literally read this and I was like, where's this going? And it was like, yeah, he has to have his tiptoes up

because he's got a plate on his knee resting on his lap. I was like, that is so true. That is true. You would get the itch. You'd look over and you'd be like, what is going on? Isn't that great? But you can imagine it.

You can so imagine them just sitting there, their little twinkly toes. Yeah. That is the end. It is the end. Oh my God, that's so funny. Right, let me pick one for you. Ready?

Okay. So what I will say is this lady maybe comes to this station quite a lot I was heading back from work and you know when the escalators are always in the right like the up and down

are always in the same place yeah they switched the sides of what was up and down oh yes yes yes they do that sometimes they do it they do it every so often

where and she must have been on autopilot just to throw you off just to keep keep you going. She starts like she was clearly running for the tube again big ick for me anyway. Yeah. She's like running to get through she starts running running running going down what is usually

the down. Oh god okay. But it's the up so she starts running down the up escalator and she genuinely looked like you know how hamsters are on the wheel because it starts she's like trying to grab onto the thing because she

she didn't I don't know she registered what was happening but she genuinely was like both her hands were on like

either side of the escalator and she was like trying to get herself along and her little feet were like and then and then me and the girl i was working with coming back from i got me like what the fuck and then she just kind of

like stopped let herself get back to the like back to land no and then was like i went on the other one just went on the other one that's so embarrassing the fact that i would have been i would have rated her more if she kept on going like if she stuck it out just ran down the up one. That's so embarrassing. The fact that, I would have rated her more if she kept on going. Like if she stuck it out. Just ran down the up. Stuck it up. Stuck it out. The fact she then has to like,

run, run, and she stops. And she's like. I was like, oh my God. I was like, oh, what a freak show. That is so embarrassing for her.

Oh God, there are a few. Okay. I was with you for the sick and we were so Katie and I were going on a hot girl walk we've been doing this like every day because the sun is shining and we have our matches and we're loving it. So walking past in lovely park near us the other day near the river gorgeous gorgeous gorgeous and I look to my left and I say oh my god Katie, Katie, look, there was a man doing that.

Oh my God, I don't know what he was doing. I don't know what he was doing. I don't know if it was some kind of Zumba or like it was some kind of stretch, but this guy is like on his own in the middle of the park, just in a downward dog position. No headphones on as well. No headphones on.

Yeah. And he just like goes into a dog position and puts one as well no headphones on yeah and he just like goes into a dog position and puts one arm in front and one leg back and he's just looking off into the abyss and he just holds it there

and he's looking across at him and he's actually just looking on the river and then he starts bouncing his arm and his leg up it was so weird and I was like

that if I saw Archie doing that I'd be so embarrassed it would be the egg because actually I think if he was with a group of people, I would have been like, fine. It's the fact he was on his own and he didn't have music. No headphones.

No headphones. Embarrassing. Embarrassing. Why are you doing that? And then I just had to... It was almost captivating. Like, I was watching and then I started laughing and then I was like, what's he doing now?

Yeah. I was like, I want to see a bit more. But I'm going to have to turn back around. I want to see. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah. But yeah it's really interesting that. Actually it's really interesting. I find that really interesting but yeah.

Right Katie let's get on to our questions. I, question, question. I have a serious question this week. Yeah, you are. Throw it on the line. Your silly question. Yeah. My serious question for this week is, would it be a deal breaker if your parents hated your partner? They can't stand him or her, depending on the person. They can't stand them. Would that be a deal breaker?

And how would that compare to your friends hating them? It's not would you rather, it's just how would that compare? So I think if my parents met him once and were like, we're not sure on him, I'd be bothered. I'd be upset because I obviously would probably think they're great. Yeah. However. bothered i'd be upset because i obviously would probably think they're great yeah however well if you brought someone back that would be a huge step for you yeah massively yeah so i think if they were like we're not sure on him i would be a bit upset okay um but i'd probably try and be like oh let's organize something again like what exactly was the issue like let's try and

organize something again because i do really want you guys to like him and if it's after like the second third time they're like we really really don't think he's good for you then i think that's like sackable i'd be like okay there's clearly something would you want to know what that something is though i think if it was something like we don't think he treats you right it'd be different if they're like but i think my parents would never say if they were something like, we don't think he treats you right, it'd be different if they're like, but I think my parents would never say, if they were like, oh, we just don't find him funny. Like, we just don't think he's that, like, he's all right. Like, he's just not that funny. Like, he's a bit meh.

I'd be a bit like, oh. Yeah. Because I think, I see the guy that I end up being with, like my next boyfriend, being hilarious. I feel like we'd be two big personalities. with my next boyfriend being hilarious. I feel like we'd be two big personalities. So I wouldn't see myself dating someone who is boring. So if they were like, he's boring, I'd be like, oh, do you think so?

Because I don't think so. But then again, also when you're meeting parents, you are kind of, the first time you meet parents, you are a more filtered down version of yourself in the sense that you're meeting parents you are kind of the first time you meet parents you are a more filtered down version of yourself in the sense that you're not going to be as comfortable as you are with your boyfriend or your girlfriend no so you're on top form absolutely so you're clearing the plates you're yeah yeah asking questions i feel like however if i took him to meet my friends and after the first meeting with my friends and they were like we hate him then i'd be like clearly there's something wrong wow okay so it would it

would hit more coming from your friends especially like if i brought if i brought a guy back to the flat and you all didn't like him i would be warning signals for you that would be warning signals for me okay just because we spend so much time together and we know all we know each other so so well that I'm kind of like if parents it's more like we just want what's best for you and what's best and and I think their intentions are always there but they won't be as honest as friends will okay like if your parents don't like your um boyfriend they're not going to be like we hate him he's horrible so they still want you to be happy of course they do whereas i think you can go to friends for tough love and i think if like

for example if you were single and brought a guy back who i thought was an arsehole maybe i wouldn't say i think he's a dick yeah Yeah. But I'd be like, um. And also friends know you in different ways than your parents do. Absolutely, yeah. You know, I think everyone does it. Everyone is a comedian when it depends on their circumstances. Yeah. With your parents, you are slightly different to how you are with your friends. Yeah.

With your friends, you're slightly different to how you are with your boyfriend one-on-one. 100%. Or girlfriend. So those friends see parts of you that your parents don't say yeah now that's a generalization yeah but but that is the case 100 i think so overall would it be a deal breaker if your parents said i don't like him if we i really don't like if after a few meetings they were like we really don't like him. If we... I really don't like him. If after a few meetings they were like, we really don't like him. Just personally, from my parents, it would take a lot for them to actually put their

oar in and be like, this is actually an issue, because I don't think they ever would. So if they felt that inclined, I'd be like, fuck, you hate him. Right? You really think this is a bad idea. Okay. And of course, I think it would be a deal breaker. Okay, interesting. What would you think? Yeah yeah I've thought about this one a lot as well um I never expected my parents to love Arch as much as they do yeah like of course I I knew they

would think he's amazing and I knew they would really like him but the way they've taken him so much into our family and how they love him, it's been so nice. And how they, Arch has had one time with both my mum and dad. Yeah. And they've never given any sign of, that they don't think he's right. They just really, really like him. And the fact they do like him so much, I'm in that place of, oh, I'm cush day. Yeah.

My parents love him. My friends love him. So I feel. Yeah. Well, yeah, he is, he is is he is incredible isn't he is just absolutely perfect so then if that did change I think I would be rather confused actually yeah you know if if my mum or dad said to me oh look I'm not sure about him I think then I I'd be like look I'm so short of him that I don't think you're right. And I think if there's a situation that's happened, sort it out with Arch because you guys have got a close relationship. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I think I'm at too much of a stage where we're so far into our relationship that actually it's not a deal breaker. Yes. You're going to have to make up with him because, you know. Unbuckle them now. Yeah, yeah. If it was early doors, then I'd be like, oh, okay. But because it's now two and a bit years in, I'm like, well, if you didn't like the comment he made

when he was drunk or if you did, that's the situation you're gonna sort. So I feel like the point I'm at now, it wouldn't be a deal breaker. Yeah, fair. But yeah. Gorgeous. I came here with you.

But, oh my God, I did it! I did it! I did it! Oh my God, it's cracking on. I can hear you. But, I make it in different ways? Yeah. Okay, right. Well, this is something... This is a really hard one.

But you can't... That's how you communicate. That's how I talk? You can maybe say, like, words, but it would have to be in like the voice of an animal. How? You know, like if you, for example, went for a pig. I wouldn't go for a pig.

I know you wouldn't go for a pig. Hence the example. Don't want to steal your thunder there. And they're like, oh, hi, Kit. You'd be like, hi. Ew. Yeah. Ew, that's revolting. That's a pretty good that's revolting. Okay definitely not a pig.

But you would you would have to or you either can speak and have to kind of like sprinkle in animal noises. Okay. Or just animal noises. But what animal are you choosing? Okay so I'm eliminating pig because i just find i think that's revolting and if someone was snorting in my face i'd hit them and i'm not doing a cat because cats freak me out yeah if i say yeah what are you doing i think it's also like there was a girl in my year at school who pretended to be a cat oh my god i remember when you told me this and she was quite off-putting in the sense that you'd be like, morning, she'd be like... Nah, nah, piss off.

And I'm like, ooh, it's a bit weird. I'll tell you what I could consider. I could consider a woof. I could imagine being like, right, woof, woof. I could imagine being like, woof. No, but you can't say it like, woof. Oh. You'd have to, no, you couldn't be like, morning, woof.

Oh, I'd have to be like... Yeah, yeah, yeah, you would. No way. Yeah. So I'd have to be like woof, woof. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you would. No way. Yeah. So I'd have to be like, oh, Kit, what are you doing today? Basically, I'm going to the gym. And then later on, I'm going to go for a walk. Woof, woof, woof.

Or, yeah. Okay, I'm not doing that then. That's going to, that's going to itch me out. Okay, I'm not, I'm not at all. Because if I could go woof, then I'd be like. No, you can't just be like, you know, that's stupid. Because I think that's quite funny if I was like woof yeah yeah I'm just gonna do this today woof no you can't do that okay let me think for you maybe uh this is really hard

definitely not a mouse I'm terrified of mice so maybe right no no maybe something I want something that's quite fun that I can drop in there so it's quite funny because a woof would have been funny. But then something that, if it's going to be happening all the time, I want to also kind of be a bit seductive

or sexual because I don't want to be having sex with Arch and be like, woof. And he's like, what the fuck is this girl? So... I feel like I've given this thought. Go on. I think one that could work would be a horse.

No. Not like, but you're not going to say no. You'd be like, no. Oh my God. I could be a duck. Oh, duck would be good. I could be a duck because I could be like, Katie, look at you today, you big, baddie.

That could be quite good. Yeah. Although, can I choose when it comes out? No, but the thing is, in a sexual way, I don't think duck works. You can be like... I could be like, let's get it on. Notchie's like, what the fuck? I can maybe a little bird, like a... That was so good. Yeah. Do it again.

That could be quite good. Because at least if I'm doing that Arch could just turn his head and be like... Actually bird really works because you could do it like... And I could pretend to be whistling. Yeah, you could be... So I could be like, you know, you're like, you're right kitty. And I'm like to be whistling. Yeah, you could be... So I could be like... You know, you're like, you all right, kitty? I'm like, yeah, good. Yeah. I mean, it's strange, but at this point, I've not got a lot of choice.

Yeah, I think bird works. I don't think I'm a horse. I don't think I could... I'd be like, what is going on? No! No! You would be a horse. You would definitely.

I actually think maybe I could be a dolphin. And I'm like... You would definitely. I actually think maybe I could be a dolphin. You know, like... You would be. So you're like... And you're like, oh, that's good. You'd be like that and I'd be... Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Or... A pigeon. You do a really good pigeon sound. That'd be good. It's that time. Come on, Casey.

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