The Debrief - He Doesn't Want To Spend Christmas With My Family.... | The Debrief Podcast

Episode Date: December 9, 2024

Welcome back to The Debrief!This week we are discussing those tricky family dynamics at Christmastime! Do you go to his or hers? How do you split your time? We'll delve in today!As always please email... us hello@thedebriefpodcast.co.uk or DM us @the.debriefpodcast with any debriefs or dilemmas.Have an amazing week, Lots of love,K+K xx Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the debrief! Thank you! He got you a wish, he met me, gentle man, he got nothing new to say. Oh my god have you seen the trend on TikTok where you text your boyfriend saying I've signed you up for caroling? No! I was thinking I might do it to Arch. Oh, please do. So girlfriends text their boyfriend saying, I'll keep this date free. And they're like, okay, cool. Why? And they're like, oh, I've signed it up for caroling. And they're like, what do you mean? Like, and then they go,
Starting point is 00:00:37 oh, just around on Aborhood. And the boyfriend's like, no, seriously, I'm not doing that. I was like, I love that. I love the sheer panic. A sheer panic? See I think caroling would be actually such a romantic date night. It would be so cute. You need a partner who can sing so then you guys could do cute harmonies. No honestly like that that actually might be too far for me. Yeah. Also I'm like don't be better than me. No you can't be the better singer than me. You can't imagine. Weirdly though I feel like. Like imagine if your partner had like Matthew's voice. You'd be like, shut the fuck up. I'd be like, you can't be better than me. You're so good. Also, because then I'd be like, if I'm going to sing, you have to be like, wow, you're
Starting point is 00:01:13 amazing, rather than be like, pitch it. Pitch you on B4, no? Or imagine if he's, what's that? Yeah. Imagine. That would be horrendous. I often find that I'm more attracted to the non-singers. Yeah. If you're a great actor, or if you can play a musical instrument really well. Panties on the floor. Brilliant. I thought panty topic. Shall we crack on? Let's crack on.
Starting point is 00:01:40 Okay, so my manch this week is a really sweet, cozy one and kind of to do with our theme, which we'll get into in a sec. But it is, home isn't a place, it's the people you're with. Oh, I love that. Which I'm like, is a lovely saying, especially this time of year when if you can't go home, you know, if you're away from home, I know your sister, she's not going to be at yours. Yeah, we're not sure yet. I think she might stay with her boyfriend for Christmas. And there's lots of different things that happen with loads of people, you know, so they sometimes can't always be home, but if you're around the people you love, you know.
Starting point is 00:02:16 I always used to think when COVID hit and we weren't quite sure where we could go, I had you, Arch and our other housemate, and I thought if we did, I have my family here. Like I have another family. And I would know that I would be safe and happy and loved around you guys. So yeah. It was such a weird one where we were like, there was a prospect where we'd have to do Christmas the four of us, but actually like, not that I'd be sad to obviously not be with the family, but like I honestly would have loved her.
Starting point is 00:02:41 It would have been really lovely. And I think because we are a family of our own, you know, we would have really made most of them. Yeah. So tell me your mantra. My mantra is, if you stay ready, you don't have to get ready. Is that why you wear your pajamas underneath your jeans? No, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys. I've recently gotten into this terrible habit. Now I, I'm a bit like, this is bad. So I, when I get home, I don't know about you, as soon as I'm in and I know I'm in, all pajamas are on. KK KK Comfies, you've got to get in your comfies.
Starting point is 00:03:16 SXSW But the difference between mine and Kit's comfies is Kit's like, you could still walk out the door and like, it'd be socially acceptable. My comfies are like these animated like moose pajamas or like Christmas themed leggings. They're iconic. So when I have to then realise I want a sweet treat after I go to the shop, I started doing this thing where I just put my jeans over my pyjama bottoms. Over your comfies. And then go to the shops.
Starting point is 00:03:41 Love it. And I got caught out the other day. Did you? With the... Oh, with day. Did you? With the... Oh with me, with me, with me. Yeah, with the red, my red Christmas hanging over your jeans. It was amazing. I was like nothing to see. Honestly, honestly amazing. Tell me your song for this week, Peachy. My song this week is my, one of my favourite Christmas songs. You're gonna die. Oh no. I actually made my New Year's resolution
Starting point is 00:04:05 should be no more oldies. Oh no, mine is Christmas Waltz by Frank Sinatra. I can't say. You're paying for his Billy's member shares. Honestly, like my money's going straight to the Frank Sinatra estate, right, they are loving me. But it's honestly, it's that time of year where the world falls in love. The lyrics are good and this song of mine in three quarter time. Now this shows I'm a good Frank, because I've got no idea of this song. You've never heard of Christmas Waltz? Never heard of that. Grew up on a Christmas Waltz.
Starting point is 00:04:44 But I will definitely give it a listen. Quickly off topic. Yeah. Who sings that's life, that's what all the people say? Frank Sinatra. Do you know that Rocky, Courtney and Travis's baby got born to that song. So when she was giving birth, Travis wanted to put Frank Sinatra on because that's what they like fell in love to.
Starting point is 00:05:03 So they put Frank Sinatra on, popped out to that's life. That's what other people say. I was like, wow. That is life. That is life. Exactly. That's what Courtney said. She was like, to be honest, it's just so like meant to be. I was like, it is. It really is. What's your song? So my song is, I can't remember how it goes. You know, it's my dad's favourite Christmas song at the moment. You know, the Elton. The mistletoe. Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas. Christmas world, say we can say we can say we can say we can say we can say we can say
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Starting point is 00:06:09 What is that name of the song that I've just sang? Oh, it's called Merry Christmas. There we go. Good Merry Christmas. Elton John, Ed Sheeran. Does what it says on the tin. RECCA RECCA RECCA RENDERATION. Tell me. Guys. What? Wicked. Wicked. I bought the pink cup. Kate got the Glinda cup and you know what's funny is we were meeting each other at the
Starting point is 00:06:36 cinema and you were already in there and I saw the Glinda cup and I went oh my god I really want to get one of the novelty cups and I was like I haven't got time I don't want to miss the film and then I walk in and Kate one of the novelty cups and I was like, I haven't got time. I don't want to miss the film. And then I walk in and get the cup. I was like, I want to get the Elphaba cup. And imagine how fucking iconic would that have been? We walk into Wicked and we both got the cups. Well, we definitely are going again because I want to bring my sister. Oh, I have to see it at least three more times. I've got to see it again. So we'll definitely go again. I'll bring my sister pops. I'm such a...
Starting point is 00:07:07 And then you can get your little Elfie. Elfie! But I was also like, that's me. I give everyone a nickname. Elfie. Yeah. But I think Elfie is an adorable nickname. Oh, so cute for Elphaba as well. What is adorable? Elfie. Love that. So many of these films are so overrated, but this was hyped up how it should be. This, this I was, my mum texted me, she was like, is it good? Or is it just over hyped? I was like, you get your boo cheekies there. Get your boo cheekies. Yeah. Are you ready to debrief? I'm ready. So guys, this week we're talking about something that's a bit tricky. Although it's Christmas season, it's nice and festive, we're keeping it jolly, but we're also real estate.
Starting point is 00:07:54 Keeping it real. Keeping it real. So more specifically, we're talking about navigating the other family. We all know the holidays can be a bit complicated when you're in a relationship or trying to balance family time with either side. So whether you're celebrating it with your own family or boyfriends or maybe both, we're here to help you navigate it all. So let's get into it. Let's get into it. So family dynamics at Christmas time, tricky enough. So especially if you're
Starting point is 00:08:24 juggling multiple households and especially if you're juggling multiple households and especially if you're in a new relationship. Yeah, I think so. Like how do you split Christmases and relationships? I also think Christmas is such a scary like big milestone for people in relationships. Yeah, so sacred. Because if you're like, oh, we're together, oh, that's nice, and we're spending Christmas. Oh, it's like, oh, sure.
Starting point is 00:08:44 And I think it's also the assumption you spend your Christmas with your family. So your family like them then, if they're coming, so they must be like, so they're accepting that. Yeah, that's the assumption. So it's like, do you, because I obviously haven't experienced this. My boyfriend, my boyfriend, my sister and her boyfriend. They spent Christmas the other last year because of work schedules, they couldn't come up to like my family home, but they had a lovely time and they just did Christmas together. But I feel like if my sister's boyfriend's family are abroad, so I feel like if they were to do Christmas, they'd split
Starting point is 00:09:27 it stay at ours, which they did the year before, like he spent Christmas with us and then they'd go over to Canada if they were going to split. I think that's how it would work. But I feel like when you're within the UK, is like, do you do Christmas and then half of Christmas day and then go over? Or do you do like Christmasy Christmas day go to the other family boxing day? Yeah, see I personally am a bit more of a compromise on the boxing day. I personally am like, I don't want to do half and half on a Christmas day. I want to enjoy my Christmas day. I don't want to be like, we need to be checking the walks. I want to be enjoying my Christmas day. I just think it can be so tricky, especially
Starting point is 00:10:09 because of traditions. And I think this is where it gets tough with spending the Christmas. For example, Archie's planning on spending part of Christmas Day at mine this year, which will be like, that'll be crazy. mad. It's like the first time we've ever had a Christmas with like a boyfriend or anything. So I've met even more my sisters, but my sister's previous boyfriend, Soriel, they were never like at Christmas. So that would be weird. But I mean, my family were thrilled. They were like, oh my God, that would be amazing. But it all is down to if he passes his driving test or what. I thought, if he can't come, I'll buy Eileen's roast. I'm like, please.
Starting point is 00:10:48 Eileen's Christmas dinner. And she'll be there like, hi guys, I'm here. I'm ready. Yeah, I think it'll be really strange. But also, I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm so excited. It'll be amazing to wake up with him on Christmas day. But there's that little pressure. Like we have our traditions.
Starting point is 00:11:04 We know what we do. And he's obviously from such a big family, whereas like we have a smaller family. So we have our traditions. And I think that's what's really hard with blending going to someone else's, them coming to ours. It's like, oh, well, we do this. And it's like, well, that's a shame, but you're kind of here. And I personally think if you're going into someone else's house, adapt to their traditions. Don't become in like, well I do that. It's like, oh no, you're in someone else's house now, you're going to adapt to that. Do you know what I mean? It's a really tricky one because it's like, I get it. My family, we always watch Muppets
Starting point is 00:11:40 Christmas Herald on Christmas Eve. Your dad loves that film. He fucking loves that film. My mum loves the Muppets. So she's like, this is the best thing ever. But like, if I'm bringing my boyfriend over and he hates Muppets Christmas Carol. Or imagine if you guys turn it on and he's like, we're not watching this kids film, are we? Oh, that would be awkward. Like, yes.
Starting point is 00:12:00 But exactly. I don't know, some people, and also I know some families who have really boozy Christmases, like that's not your family. Imagine if he's like popping open, like he's glugging. You're like, I actually worry for like when I eventually spend Christmas, like at a boyfriend's house and their family could be big drinkers. I've never gone out drinking on Christmas Eve. Oh my gosh on Christmas Eve. They're always like, Oh my God. Like we have like, our friend has a Christmas Eve party every year. So they go and they're like, Oh yeah, Christmas day. I'm usually hung over.
Starting point is 00:12:35 I'm like, I've never been hung over on Christmas day. Yeah. Personally, I've never been because I'm not a big drinker, but we'll always have drinks and stuff. But I think, yeah, it's just adapting to the different ways. Yeah. And I feel if you're lucky enough to be invited to someone's house, like your parents were so accommodating, letting your sister's boyfriend come. Because they were still kind of you, not like they'd only been together, like just about a year. So that's still kind of you. Yeah. So that was still quite new. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:05 So that was very accommodating of them because I know it's only one person, but sometimes you can be like Christmas is sacred. That's for us. And it's an extra person as well. 100%. You've got your traditions. Well, me and such and such always on team for this game or blah blah blah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:20 You know, it's like, oh God, what are we going to do? So we're going to go into one of the debr-Brave Dilemmas. This is very interesting. Classic. Do I spend Christmas with my family or his? Hi girlies, I'm an absolute turmoil and I need your advice because I don't know who to choose. So here's the deal. My boyfriend and I have been together for a year and this will be our first Christmas
Starting point is 00:13:47 together. He's asked me to spend Christmas Eve with his family and Christmas day with mine. It's nice, which I thought sounded great at first until this happened. My boyfriend's mom has never been my biggest fan. It's fucking classic. I met a girl the other day. I biggest fan. It's fucking cursing. I met a girl the other day. I'm sorry. That's a horrible feeling. Honestly, feeling like you're not welcome. And there's a false pretence of like, no,
Starting point is 00:14:12 you are, you are. It's like, I'm not. I was talking to this girl the other day and she was just saying, Oh my God, my boyfriend's mother is awful to me. She was just, I know it's just like, what is wrong? Mother's and sons. It's weird. So my boyfriend's mom has never been my biggest fan. She's super sweet to my face, but she's a little too nice if you know what I mean. Like the kind of nice that feels fake. Yeah, I know. Women can read women. And men don't see the undertone.
Starting point is 00:14:41 No. And I'm like, did you not get that that was so disgustingly passive aggressive? Like honestly, okay. If you catch it, yeah, we catch your drift. But here's the juicy bit. I recently found out from my sister after a couple of glasses of wine that his mom, I recently found out, sorry, from his sister, that makes sense, after a couple of glass of wine, that his mum has been making not so subtle comments behind my back about how I don't fit into their family and that she doesn't see me as the one of them. Oh, sorry, correction, doesn't see me as the one. Oh, stinger. I was absolutely floored. Do you know what's interesting is people go, why is she telling you this? I rate that. I rate that the sister is telling you.
Starting point is 00:15:34 Yeah. I'm like, I'm not going to turn up to feeling like a mug being like everyone loves me when they don't. That's so interesting. Yeah. Fuck. Now I'm supposed to go to his family house on Christmas Eve and I'm freaking out. The thought of spending an evening in a house where I know they don't really want me there has me feeling like I'm walking into an episode of Real Housewives with all the cameras trained on me.
Starting point is 00:15:56 Maybe that means turned. Yeah, I get what you mean. So naturally I'm seriously considering staying in my own family house instead. Oh yeah. Oh my God. You're not going to look into a lion's den. I'd do the same. So here's the twist.
Starting point is 00:16:08 Oh, interesting. My family's not exactly perfect either. My mum has been overly excited about me bringing him home for Christmas. Oh, why is that bad? She's already planned the whole dinner menu around what she thinks he likes. That's nice. And my sister has been all over me saying that if I don't menu around what she thinks he likes. That's nice. And my sister has been all over me saying that if I don't bring him, she'll be disappointed. I don't understand why is that not perfect?
Starting point is 00:16:33 I'm stuck in the middle of this madness. I don't understand. And that's a good thing, is it not? Who do I choose? Do I risk the awkwardness and possible emotional breakdowns at my boyfriend's family? Or do I stick to my guns and spend the holiday with my family where I know I'll be comfortable but feel guilty for not supporting my boyfriend? Please, I need help." Maybe she's saying that if she spends Christmas with her family, her boyfriend's going to stay at
Starting point is 00:17:02 his. So she's not going to be bringing her boyfriend and maybe her family had planned. Oh shit, I'd feel so guilty if my mum's like, I've literally just got Archie all of his planners that I know he likes. And sorry, she's just said, PS, if I stay with my boyfriend's family, I also know that his mum is trying to corner me for some heart to heart one to one chat and I'm treading it. Are we going to exchange family secrets or is she going to try to ruin my reputation in front of everyone? I need to know how to handle this with my grace of a queen and avoid a total disaster.
Starting point is 00:17:34 Thanks so much. I'm losing my mind. I find it so interesting like mothers of sons. I find so interesting because I feel like they have such an interesting dynamic. I think they're extremely protective, especially if he's like the youngest as well. Yeah, 100%. Where like, oh God, it's just it's such an interesting vibe because I feel like, I don't think anyone would be good enough. So I wouldn't take that person. Yeah, that's really interesting you say that. Yeah. I think it's one of those things that like, it's a really weird vibe, but like we hear it all the time.
Starting point is 00:18:13 And they also have, sorry to interrupt, they also have the whole, I'm the only woman in his life. And then a woman comes along and he starts to prioritize someone else. And some moms can find that hard. Like, I mean, I've done everything for you. And I kind of get it like that. I can't imagine how that would feel. I've done everything. I made you the man you want to. I get it. But also, he needs to be one for his own life. I think personally, darling, I don't think you should go. I think... I wouldn't go. I don't think this is Christmas. It's not his family's anniversary or granny's, you know, it's your time. Go to your family, say to him, I'm sorry, darling,
Starting point is 00:18:55 I really want to be with my family. I feel a bit, I don't know how you feel, how comfortable you are with your boyfriend, but you could say, I just don't feel welcome at kind of your house. And I'm not sure your mum feels like you could even mention what was sister said. Depending how he would take that. And then just be like, look, you're more than welcome because he said he was going to come to hers on Christmas Eve. So be like, you're more than welcome to still come to mine. I really want you to. But devil's advocate would that make things worse with the mum? advocate would that make things worse with the mum? Where it's like, oh well, I thought I was getting both of you for Christmas Eve. And now, not only are you counselling on me,
Starting point is 00:19:35 but you're also now he's going as well and I don't have him. Sh** do you think? Devil's advocate, but like, I don't know, because I personally, if you're uncomfortable, it's Christmas, you should be with the people that you love and you know, like, love you. So do you think it's one or the other, you can't have a bit of both? Like you either go or you don't. Because if you go, then then he can come to yours. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:57 Okay. Well, then I think you say you talk to your family. Yeah. And I know your mum's really excited and your sister says she'll be disappointed. But you need to be honest with them. Yeah. Yeah. Get your mum's really excited and your sister says she'll be disappointed, but you need to be honest with them. Yeah, get your mum's opinion. Yeah, get your mum's opinion, see what she says. Yeah. Well, good luck darling.
Starting point is 00:20:11 Yeah, it's really tricky. That is tough. I've got my dilemma. Oh, tell me. Okay. Hi girls. So me and my boyfriend have been together for around two and a half years and we just started living together.
Starting point is 00:20:21 Okay. I spent last Christmas with his family for the first time and enjoyed it, but I was a little bit homesick. My family live abroad. This year, my family are going to be here for Christmas and I'm really, really glad. The issue is, is that my boyfriend just told me that he will always want to go spend Christmas with his parents and he doesn't mind not seeing each other on Christmas day. I always thought this was normal for couples to take it in turns spending not seeing each other on Christmas Day. I always thought this was normal for couples to take it in turns spending Christmas with each other's families. That's one of the reasons I did it the previous year as well as not wanting to go on a five hour plane
Starting point is 00:20:52 journey back home. He says that because he's an only child, he doesn't want to leave his parents alone during Christmas. His mum told him that she would be hurt if he ever didn't spend Christmas with them so he'll always be there. I know my parents were hurt when I wasn't there last Christmas for the first time, but they understood that it's part of being in a relationship. I see my family significantly less because they're abroad, and I feel like it's not much to ask for him to spend it with my family while they're here. I can't get past the fact that he never wants to spend Christmas with my family and will always prioritize his family. He doesn't see what the big deal is and why I'm so upset. I wanted to get some opinions from you guys on what's normal to do at Christmas. And if my request is unreasonable,
Starting point is 00:21:32 that he compromises a little bit. Also, am I making this into a bigger issue than it needs to be? Thanks, girls." I didn't think you're making it into a bigger issue. I don't think you are either. He's got parent guilt there for sure. His parents are putting him under pressure where it doesn't sound like his dad is, his mom is. So therefore he's like, I'm sorry, but there's a point in a person's life, man or woman or whatever you identify as, where you become your own person. And we've all had it where your parents turn around to you and they go, you're actually growing up. You've got your
Starting point is 00:22:05 own stance now. You've got your own boundaries. And it can be done in a nice way. But he can't live his life with his mum pulling the strings. Because there will be a time if he's your one where you'll be pregnant, you'll be wanting to have a family and you'll be saying, I want to go to my mum. And he goes, sorry, can't. What, is your husband really not going to be with you on Christmas? Because you want to go to your parents for one Christmas. Like, it's got to be, there's got to be a compromise. You can't always spend Christmas and like, I wouldn't even, I don't feel like you do a joint Christmas because of the location difference. I think it's as well the fact they're coming over to see you. They're flying over and he doesn't want to.
Starting point is 00:22:45 I'd be really upset. Not even annoyed, I'd be upset. Yeah, I would be upset. I think you need to... Did she say how long they've been together? Yes, two and a half years. Okay, I thought it was less. And they've just started living together. So I'm like, look, I don't think it needs to be a big thing for now. Like, we need to be at my parents. But by all means, darling, if you want to go to your bloody parents, you go. Don't feel under any obligation to go to his. You did that last year. And as you said, you felt a bit like, oh, I wish
Starting point is 00:23:20 I kind of saw my parents, but they understood. Parents need to understand. It's going to be really tough. Like, oh my God, and I always say to my parents, God forbid, God forbid, for the first Christmas I'm away from my parents, I'd cry. Like, I'd be like, this would be really hard. You know, my parents even said, if you and your sister were away, we'd go away. We'd go, you know, on holidays who were not kind of like, oh, in the house. Yeah. Yeah. So look, with age comes new traditions. Yes. And that will be something that you need to explain to them. Yeah. I just don't think it needs to be a beefy thing. I just think I understand for now why it's not an urgent
Starting point is 00:23:57 thing. Yeah. Like what Arch and I are coming up to four years and this is almost like our first Christmas together. Yeah. If he passes his driving test. So girls, well, I'm still don't know. But if he does, then that'll be the first and that was after four years. But that for some people, like your sister, she did it after a year. For some people, it's so different. I think you need to chat to him though and say, look, I'm more than happy this year. I am going to mom and dad's and we can spend it apart. That's fine. But you need to say, him though and say, look, I'm more than happy this year, I am going to mom and dad's. Yeah. And we can spend it apart. Sure.
Starting point is 00:24:27 We can spend it apart. That's fine. But you need to say, look, there comes a time where it's for us. Yeah. And when you come to my family. Yeah. And you need to be able to compromise with that and tell him he needs to be able to come. This isn't a can you?
Starting point is 00:24:40 It's you do. Yeah. Because I have. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. I don't think you're overreacting in the slightest. No. No, this is a fun. Because I have. Yeah. You know. Yeah, absolutely. I don't think you're overreacting in the slightest. No.
Starting point is 00:24:48 No, but that's a key that you checked. Yeah. Should we go on to Eats? Okay, I've got one. I've got one. I'll ping pong you. You ready? Yep.
Starting point is 00:25:00 Mine is, it's a little bit controversial. Yeah. Is when families are awkward meeting you. I get you. Now I feel like I can yap to anyone. I love chat. I love a chit chat. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:17 And like if I'm meeting my boyfriend's family, please do not. I'm already on edge. Please don't be like, you're okay? All right. You know when people are just a bit like indifferent? I'm not saying roll out the red carpet. No, but literally just chin wag with me. I'm like, please empathize that I might be nervous. Please don't be awkward. Yeah, 100%. I just find it's like guys, please.
Starting point is 00:25:46 Just be yourselves. Please. Why are you awkward? Because I'm like, I love chatting to parents. Yeah. So I'm like, if I'm struggling, just give me a lifeline. Open up a little bit guys. Come on, come on.
Starting point is 00:25:57 Work with me. Work with me. I tell you what, my parents, you just need to do like a weekend with them because they love you. I love them. And then you'll be like, my mum honestly pumps you up every time she sees you. She's like, just the most beautiful girl. And I send her on your way to meet your boyfriend's parents. And then you go for it.
Starting point is 00:26:15 I love them. Yeah. Okay. So my ick is being in like a family environment and everyone laughing about an inside joke. And it's like, am I going to sit like here like a mug or is anyone actually going to tell me? Oh, do you know what? Yeah. It's so awkward. It's so awkward.
Starting point is 00:26:35 And you tried to, and you're like, I don't like I've done it twice now. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. It's a bit, I just find it's a bit rude sometimes. I was with someone else's family, not my own or even Archie's, and it was happening to a partner. And I was trying to fill them in and it wasn't even my partner. I was like, I feel uncomfortable for you. I honestly feel like you can tell very quickly about a person. For example, if I always find
Starting point is 00:27:03 if someone interrupts you in a conversation and that someone turns you go, I'm so sorry, what were you saying? Whoa, I think I rate you so much. Second is when someone is, there's an inside joke going on and someone goes, Oh, by the way, this is what it's about. Me too. I rate those people so fucking much. You're such a good person. Yeah, I completely agree with you. Yeah. Because there is nothing worse. There's nothing worse. And also you feel a bit embarrassed going, sorry, what's this? And they're still laughing.
Starting point is 00:27:33 Oh, what was this? What's this? Always having to repeat yourself. And then you're like, oh God, this is so embarrassing. Yeah. Oh my God, I get you. Okay, questions. I'm serious. I am serious. Okay, okay. So my question is, do you think you need traditions at Christmas to feel festive? Oh, good question. To feel like in the season. Oh, traditions? Yeah, I think so. Yeah. Because otherwise it's just a normal day with a, like, you don't even have a fucking tree. Like, you've got to have like a tree that, well,
Starting point is 00:28:12 depends like if that's your, like, religion and all that kind of stuff. But depending on what you follow, what you believe, you've got to have something, whether it's a certain kind of fyrd or a certain song or even outfits like, oh, we put these festive PJs on or, you know, or, oh, we always watch this, the Muppets Christmas. I think so. Because otherwise it's just a normal day with a weird name. Do you know what I mean? Like it's like having pancake days and then not having pancakes. And then you've got to have traditions. Do you agree? Yeah, I agree. I feel like it's one of those things that sometimes I feel like a good Christmas song gets me in the festive spirit. But like when I'm home and like my parents have got,
Starting point is 00:28:55 they always get J2O glitter berries, which are like the sparkly J2O. And I'm like, it's Christmas time. Oh my God. Yeah. I just love getting home and it's so warm and my mum's made something and it smells amazing and the trees up and you can smell pine and it's like, I'm home. So nice. Oh, that's great. So my question for you, that's the only question is, if you were a Christmas ornament, what would you look like and where would you hang on the tree? Oh, so for me personally, I think I'd be, I'd be center. I'd be front center. I wouldn't
Starting point is 00:29:33 be like dead center. Okay. I think I'd be kind of near the top. I wouldn't be the star. Okay. I'd be near the top. Yeah. You know the beloved ornaments that you don't want to like fall or like smash. They go on the top. Yeah. They're delicate. Yeah, love it. You know the beloved ornaments that you don't want to like fall or like smash, they go on the top because they're delicate? Yeah, very delicate. I'd go there. Yeah. Now, I think I'd either be a cute little like felt, gorgeous felt ornament that you could
Starting point is 00:29:59 get from like Liberties or something. Like gorgeous felt, maybe like little drummer boy. I'd be like a glass wreath or something like from anthropology like a gorgeous like glass bubble with like classic Christmas colors maybe a bit of gold in there. I couldn't see you as glass. I can see you more of like felt. Liberties felt. Felt. Because I think lark's way too clumsy for the pig. But the felt, I think you could get your jammies in there. You'd be... Oh, I'd be dandy.
Starting point is 00:30:32 Yeah. Or like a little felt gingerbread man. Yes. I was even thinking a little float. Float? Felt. A snowman with like a fluffy nose. Like...
Starting point is 00:30:43 A little pom pom. I could be a pom pom. Oh yeah. Like a little a little pom pom. I could be a pom pom. Like a little snowman pom pom. I could see you as well. You've got to be some sort of material. You wouldn't be glass. No, glass is glass. You're too cuddly for glass. You are. You are. What would you be? Now, I think as my own tree at home, and we have these fairies that are always like, they're quite bad-cae-es, because they're kind of like, flying across with their wings. And I've always looked at them and been like, bang it, there was one in a red like, little number, one in a blue, and Lil and I had one each, I can't remember whose was who now. So I could see
Starting point is 00:31:20 myself as maybe a fairy. Interesting, okay. Christmas fairy. I could see you as something glittery. 100%. okay. I could see you as something glittery. 100%. I've got to have some glitter in there. Glittery. Maybe like, see I've just slated the gloss but maybe glass. But maybe I'm actually, again, I think I'm not. I feel like you could be one of those things that look like glass but then then you hold it you're like is this not glass? They're like oh be careful it's glass it's not glass no. And I'll be like this just glittering yeah fucking loving life yeah or you'd be a snow globe. I could see myself as a snow globe yeah
Starting point is 00:31:58 yeah yeah I could enjoy that yeah so happy Christmas guys. Happy Christmas. Guys if you know what autumn you are, what you'd be placed on the Christmas tree. Please tell us. I'll be asking everyone that question this week now. Thank you. It's the best question. It's a really great question. I was like, if you an ornament, where and why? Yeah. Maybe you felt present. Ask your parents. Ask your parents. It'll be your dad or your wife. No, no, this! For God's sake! I'll ask my friends as well, they get really hicked out by when I ask the questions. I know, I'm like, they're the best.
Starting point is 00:32:34 I'm like, you're not around me all the time so I can't ask this out. Yeah, exactly. My presence is limited. Completely, darling. Right guys, I hope you have a great day. I don't know when you're listening to this, But we love you, we're always here for you. Have a great... And please write in your dilemmas. We know that, you know that we love them.
Starting point is 00:32:49 Enjoy the festive season. Enjoy! Bye! I've got a rebel soul I've got a rebel soul

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