The Debrief - Heartbreak & Broken Bones | The Debrief Podcast
Episode Date: September 1, 2025Welcome back to The Debrief! This week we are talking all things injuries, clumsy nights out or date disasters we've got you covered! As always email us: hello@thedebriefpodcast.co.uk with any debrief...s or dilemmas or DM us @the.debriefpodcast Have an amazing week, you deserve it! Lots of love,K+K xx Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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I've got a rebel soul
I've got a rebel soul
Welcome to the kneebring
You're your co-host Kiss, McNeill
And your co-host Katie Leech
I'm going to grab my Americana
Because I am very bougie
Coffee gal this morning
I know
So when Arch and I were in Bali
When we frequented our travels
Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I would have a, look at my feet, they're orange, I would have a,
because I'm not a latte girl, I'm not a coffee girl,
no.
But an iced Americano was lovely to start the day off.
Oh, yes.
So now Archie on the weekends makes me one because it feels like we're on holiday.
Oh, isn't that bloody lovely?
And although it's not a weekend, it's a bloody Monday.
It's a Monday.
So time for a holiday.
Except, well, you're going back home now, Paige.
I am.
sojourning back up to, to Yorkshire.
To Yorkshire?
To Yorkshire.
I literally have had the nice I've had,
I'm getting just over a week off.
Oh, I'm so jealous.
I'm so excited.
What are you going to do, sleep?
Literally sleep and do nish.
Oh, I want to do nothing.
Oh my God, I'm so jealous of you.
I want it to feel like that gap in between Christmas and New Year's
where you don't know what day it is.
I've got no idea what's going on.
Literally, that's what I want my life to be.
Oh my God, that sounds divine.
Yeah, literally.
That literally sounds so nice.
And what are you going to do?
when you get home, you're going to...
You said you're going out for dinner tonight.
Going out for dinner tonight.
Your favourite sports?
Tomorrow, no plans.
Thursday, I think I'm doing hot yoga with my mum.
Oh, so nice.
Friday.
No plans.
Saturday I'll come back.
Oh, lovely.
So, we're probably just going to have a little mooch.
Hopefully it's a bit sunny then.
Hopefully, although I prefer York when it's miserable.
Do you want?
When it's rainy.
Because it's quite a Gothic city.
Yes, it is.
So I do like it.
it when it's a bit like
brew day.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And the uni as well is beautiful.
Really lovely.
Really nice.
So I can't wait, but I'll miss everyone.
I know.
So it's the way I go home for a long amount of,
I probably go home the least out.
Actually, maybe, yeah.
No, I think you probably do out of the four of us.
So when I do go, I'm like, oh.
I hope you miss me.
Do you miss me?
I hope you miss me every single day.
And do you know what on Wednesday?
next episode of the summer I down pretty
you'll be watching that at home
although I can't imagine your parents will be watching that with you
no but I will make sure they do not interrupt my viewing
I'll be like listen this is a very important thing for me
well you'll be watching on TV yeah I'll be watching on the telly
yeah I'll be getting it up getting it up
as soon as I wake up
coffee yeah it'll be first thing you say
summer I turn pretty viewing
absolutely can't wait
little sister be there?
She will.
Oh!
She'll want to watch that with me.
No, she let me watch that with you.
But we'll be catching up.
Absolutely.
With that diva.
Oh, your little sister, we love it.
We're like, tell me all.
Oh, so cute.
Right, should we crack on?
Let's crack on.
What's your mantra?
So my mantra for this week is, with every breath,
I feel calmer.
I really like that.
I really like that.
I said this so many times,
but literally,
Just to inhale and do you the world of good.
Yeah.
Sometimes when I'm feeling really, really stressed and your chest feels really anxious and tight.
Yeah.
You're like, oh my God, what do I do?
Just a simple breath in.
Yeah.
Breath out.
Oh, ding-dong.
It's like drugs to the soul.
Like, oh my God, although.
So Katie and I recently went on Hollabobops.
Oh, my God.
We literally just got back yesterday.
So good.
And when we were going on our way back through the airport control,
I had my, we had carry-ons.
Yeah.
So all our stuff in our little carry-on bags.
Yeah.
And you know how they're very nicety about putting everything in one tray?
It has to be of two trays if it's, it can't be piled up.
So anyway, I put my bag in one tray and bearing in mind had all my liquids in.
Yeah.
But I thought, fuck, you know, they weren't really clear all the way that, were they?
So I'll just put it in there.
And then in my other tray was just my jacket, my phone, and my,
Airpods.
Yeah. And lit stuff.
Anyway,
that goes straight through.
Yeah. No problem.
Although it's got a little more liquids in
because I thought it'll get checked.
Now it's cool.
Went straight through. I thought, oh, I'm front of last night.
Other tray.
Bomb, bum, bump, go through.
Arch goes, your dress,
your jacket's being checked out.
I said, oh, well, there's nothing in it.
And he goes, there's a pill in your tray.
I said, what?
He says there's a pill in your try.
Honestly, man.
So now I'm fucking stressing.
I'm like, what?
Does it, oh my God, oh my God, oh my God.
It's literally going to be like, it's going to be X.
I'm like, I'm so scared.
I'm so scared.
Detained.
Yeah, I'm literally like, but I'm like, it's not mine.
It's not mine.
Yeah.
It's not my mind.
So I literally just stood there for a second.
I was like, I closed my eyes and just took a breath.
I was like, oh.
Also, just remember you're not guilty.
You're not guilty.
And anyway, it came through and it was a filter.
It's one of those tony filters.
Honestly, Archie, with his terrible eyesight.
I heard him when he said that
I was like
No
You're actually saying this to her
There's a pill in that
Well
He's like
Have you got
Have you got paracetamol
I'm like oh my god
Have you got a pill or if you're
Oh my god
I just need to take breath
I was like
My bum holes clenching
My assholes like
Squeakings
I'm like literally
I was like just close your eyes
And a deep breath
I was like
And then she passed it back
And she said
There no nothing wrong
And I was like, oh, my God, I'm trying to find the spell.
And it was a filter.
Filter.
So silly.
Take a breath.
Take a breath.
Right.
Tell me your mantra this week.
My mantra this week is I choose myself every day.
Mmm.
I love that one.
Yeah.
I love that one.
Why do you choose?
I think I just need to remember.
Yeah.
I think I'm like, oh, what does Peach want to do?
What do I want to do?
Not of us.
And I just do it.
And you do it.
And you do.
and you do it with absolute love, care and connection.
Yeah, every day.
Every damn day.
Every damn day.
My song for this week is, I think you can probably guess what it is.
So, Kate, the four of us.
So the flat, we went on our first flat holiday.
Now, we haven't been on holiday with each other before, but in big groups.
Yeah.
We haven't just been together with the flat.
So this is the first time before I was.
Big trip.
Big success.
Big success.
Huge success.
Huge success.
and we'll be happening again.
Yeah.
So we went to Portugal.
Yeah.
And we went to Oliao.
Oliya!
Yay!
I finally said it correctly.
For the whole trial,
I was like,
On how.
And then it was like,
I read it as
Al-H-H-A-O.
So it's spelled O-L-H-A-O.
And the A has a little wiggly thing above that.
The A has a wiggle on the top.
Yeah.
So anyway,
we were there for four days.
Yeah.
Four days.
It was so long.
Really quick trip.
But it felt.
like we'd done a lot.
Really packed it in.
We fitted a lot in.
Anyway, on the Friday,
we went out,
and on the sassi we went out.
I've been, like,
the Friday we went out in Oliar.
Yeah.
Oliol.
And the sassia we went out in Farrheim.
And both nights, we've,
oh God, we found the best places to go.
On the Friday, we found this really,
really, like, local bar
that had music on, which was so much fun.
The second night, we found this Irish bar,
which was like packed and so much fun.
Yeah.
But both played the song.
Now, I'm not talking Abba, okay?
No.
Because Abba, you would think, okay, fair.
Abba's always going to be on as a crowd, please, it's correct.
Both nights and the crowds were cheering for it.
Yeah.
Creep by radio head.
I'm a creep.
Yeah.
I'm a weirdo.
Yeah.
And I was like, the first night, I was like, what a panger.
Why have I heard the same ages?
Then the second night came and I was like looking around like, guys, again.
Yeah, again.
So that has got to be my song of the week.
That is a great song.
Oh, it's brilliant.
Yeah.
What the hell am I doing here?
Yeah.
I love the bit that's like, I wish I was special.
You're so fucking special.
It's brilliant.
It's brilliant.
What's for your song of the week?
Because it can't talk back.
My song is My World by Conan
and grey and it's like oh it's my world and it's my life i'm my girl and it's my guy i'll kiss them if i might like
it's a bit of a banga dun dun yeah Conan gray i don't really know Conan gray all that well
I know he has the song september and it's like just paliester but you to december yeah that's the only one I really know of
And it's like, no, no, no, no, for your, is it that one?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
She's like, I get the tune right. And then I was, he was like, oh, new albums come out, new albums come out. And I was like, okay. And everyone started posting about it. So when we were on the plane, I was like, do you know, I'll listen. I'll just download the album and I'll listen to it. So listen to the album.
Oh, you listen to it on the plane? Listen to the album. Fucking obsessed.
Fucking obsessed. Fucking obsessed.
So, guys, fun of fact, Casey doesn't sleep on planes.
Don't sleep on planes.
Right.
So the first, when we flew out there, we got a really early fly.
Early doors.
I downloaded episodes.
I was like, I won't sleep.
I'll literally watch this.
Literally got, put this thing on.
Yeah.
Watch genuinely a minute of it.
And my headstock's going.
Slept for the full three hours.
Obsessed.
I just can't, I get, I really, I really can't do it.
I don't know why.
Like, and it's the same in cars, public transport.
really, if I'm not comfy, I'm not sleeping, unless I am shattered.
Shattered. Shattered. Like, really, really tired.
Although you are on the aisle, say.
Yeah. I love the aisle.
I hate the aisle. I'll always be on the aisle.
I will be in the window, snug as a bug and a rook.
I just get stressed by the window because then it impacts how much I drink,
because I don't want to go to the toilet and climb over people.
My God, when we did the Bali Fly, Archie literally, I felt embarrassed.
I felt embarrassed with that poor, because Archie was in the middle.
I was in me, I was near the window,
someone was in the aisle.
Every 30 minutes.
I was like,
Archie!
I was like, this, you need to,
like, next time we need to be on the aisle.
Literally.
This is not good.
Right, should we recommendation?
Yeah.
Recker, recommendation for this week.
It's got to be Ollia.
It's got to be Ollia.
It's got to be Ollia.
It's got to be Ollia.
We had Ollia.
best time. If anyone's going,
we went to Figo,
no, Finta de Pino, the brunch place.
Yes. Yes. Figo de Pita.
Figo de Pita.
Figo de Pita. Great brunch.
That sorted me out.
Also, guys, it's a good price.
Great prices.
Because Portugal, like the Algarf can be really, really expensive.
Yeah. Yeah. I don't really know about Porto.
What's Porto like? Is that expensive?
I haven't been to Porto.
Oh, wait. Haven't I been to Porto?
Sorry, I think to Porto.
Where have you been?
Lisbon.
Lisbon.
What's Lisbon like?
Lisbon's like London.
Yeah.
Porto, to be fair, I went out for dinner with Archie's family and they kind of paid so I wouldn't know.
But Porto is nice.
But Oliall is cheap.
Oliou, and it's amazing.
And it's one of those things that it's on the water and you get a little water taxi.
Beautiful marina.
There are like surrounding islands that are all beaches so you can get a water taxi.
It takes like 15 minutes.
We did that both days.
We loved it.
So good.
and the Sunday.
Amazing.
Yeah.
We had the best time.
But you can have like,
we went out for dinners.
We were at the marina having your drinks.
Yeah, cha-cha-cha.
Yeah, cha-cha was really nice restaurant.
Figo de Pita,
definitely great brunch spot.
Amazing.
And we had a villa that had like two different,
or actually three different.
Balcones.
So we were like sunbathing,
but then we went to the beach.
The water taxi is literally like five euros to get there and back.
Yeah.
Really, really cheap.
So good.
Definitely recommend if you want to go on a,
Friends holiday, have a night out as in like a boogie, a drink.
It's close to Farrow.
Kate got with someone.
I did.
You can't keep a girl down.
Nailed it.
You can't keep a girl down.
When an Olliao.
The Oliall men were just like her.
Give me her.
And she was like, I will give you that.
Hey.
I'm ready to give you that.
I'm absolutely.
If you're like wanting a French trip with sun, with drinks, but it's not like I
Beetha. It's not duff, doff, doff.
No. It's like children in the day.
There was a nice mark on Sunday.
Yeah, really cute. Really, really nice.
Right, shall we?
Let's de-bredge. Tell me, Katie.
So, this week, we are, oh my goodness me.
Scoot me. Excuse me the bins so aggressively.
Oh, my God, look at him. He's so cute.
He's been so aggross.
You're so cute, that man.
Where his little headphones are?
I don't know.
It's little ones that rough around, is it?
Like, why do you have these?
He's like, it's because when I run, I can't keep them in.
It's like the air pods slip out.
Oh, lovely.
That's really nice.
Right, debriefing.
Tell me.
This week on the debrief, we are talking all things, injuries.
Oh.
So this is ranging from clumsy night out casualties or the more dramatic stories we tell.
So cover the fact, we tripped and managed to break our arms.
Real.
So what do you think is the worst injury you've ever had?
To be fair, recently with my ankle.
Yeah.
I don't have a good history with weak.
I've got weak ankles.
So, and both times I've done my ankle.
Yeah.
It's not like I was jumping on a pogo stitch.
No, no.
And like doing it on a railing.
Yeah.
And then decided to go on one leg.
Yeah.
Literally.
This, I've only broken it once.
and that was like 12 weeks ago now or something.
And that was literally running for a train.
Up hill, went over, heard a snap.
That was it.
But the second one, this was quite a bad one, to be fair.
And that was with you.
I didn't break it, but I heavily fractured it.
And I was going to get the pizza.
I think I'd probably got like an Uber Eats or something.
Yeah.
Went over my ankle and fully stacked it, tumble, tumble, tumble, tumble.
ended with like
my head below my legs
my legs were higher
I couldn't even move
I just lay that
and I was like
and because I was on my own
I think I'd literally left the flat
going to go get the pizza
and then I was like
oh my God
I can't move or I can't move
I had to like drag myself
like
that was probably the most severe
that I was like
this is intense
yeah no
me with my ankles
that's an injury
other than that's not
I don't think I've been like I haven't injured my arm
needs legs
I don't think I've really, it's my ankles
to get now. Your ankles. If that's what gets me
it's the injury. Even on a night out
if I'm like, I've had something to drink
I need to be careful with the ankles.
Yeah. You don't remember.
You're not even if you fell down the head.
Oh my God. And everyone was like, what's wrong with that?
I said she's got weakly ankle. You was blackout.
I was black out. Nothing to do with your ankles.
I don't remember. Yeah.
Christ.
You slip.
fell, stacked it, took two people with you.
And then we're like, oh my God, is she fucked?
I was like, no, she's got weak ankles.
Then you want to vomit.
Oh, I don't know.
What's your worst injury?
I've actually, I'm very accident prone.
Like, I'm constantly bumping into things.
Uh-huh.
Worse, but I don't really remember it.
I fractured my wrist.
I broke my finger.
Oh.
I broken my toe.
twice, my pinky toes.
Ow, ow, ow.
They really hurt.
But then I actually think...
How did you broken your pinky toes twice?
So, the first time...
First time I fell and I just...
It was...
I don't even know how I did...
But literally couldn't bear weight on it for weeks.
And the worst thing with toes is you can't really do anything.
You just have to grin and bear it.
What do you do?
Literally, I just tried to ice and elevate it, but like, you can't get anything for it.
So they don't put a mini cast on it?
sadly not even though i would have been so cute the second time i was i remember i was arguing with my
sister in her room hilarious and i was like well i'm just gonna go and i turned around it must be your
older sister yeah yeah and i got my pinky finger caught on the outside of the door i tripped i went
flying but my the pinky toe stayed
oh I got next to the door frame so I just went and I was like
fuck oh my god oh my god
it's like when we were in Olliao and we're actually at Figo de Pitta
we turned around on this guy he clearly like done something to his leg
procedure on his leg because he had like bolts screwed into his leg
like the cage thing around it oh my god it looks so painful
that makes my vagina twitch it looked so painful
Lady, but it, right, it was like, my vagina's twitching.
I was like, mine's too.
I literally. So clench.
It looks so painful.
So painful.
I've also, oh, actually, do you remember when I ran into that lamp post and the bruise on my head?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I was running and I think I just wasn't concentrating and I, like, looked behind to cross the road and went, dong.
Oh, ow.
And I had like, do you remember, I had like a purple bruise in the middle of my forehead?
Luckily, it didn't go egg-shaped.
Oh.
Oh, that's the worst when it goes egg-shaped.
It wasn't egg-shaped.
It was just like a purple bruise.
I've done that a little bit of a few days.
When I was younger once, I was on like a, you know, those obstacle courses they have in parks.
Like the wooden ones, I was walking.
I just slipped on the plank of wood and literally straight on my head.
Oh, my God, that's awful.
And it was literally like egg on my forehead.
Egg nation.
More recently, I was going teaching.
When I used to teach kids, I used to go into school sometimes and do school workshops.
and I had one about, this was really fucking hurt.
It was about Christopher Columbus.
I was teaching year one and two kids for half a morning.
And it was winter at the time.
And I was walking along and there was like black ice.
I slipped on the black ice.
But I think to stop me from like,
I literally thought I was going to face plant the ground
because I had my hands full.
So then instead of putting my hands down,
I literally just dropped straight onto my knees.
and oh my fucking gone
I felt so bad
because I turned up like in tears
like do you guys have an ice bag or something
I was like I'm here to teach
but like I was like
and I don't think when I'm injured
I don't really cry like the pain's usually
quite like yeah yeah
but I was literally sobbing
I couldn't calm myself down
I literally was like
I'm really in pain
and I remember I had to kneel down with all the kids
on it and I was like
but it swole up so badly
they were so bad
bruised and then I remember I couldn't kneel properly for genuinely weeks.
It sounds, this is a real first world problem, but like every time I'd work out or do,
like, had to do press ups, I couldn't do it on my knees.
Like, it fucking hurt.
Bloody how.
It was really bad.
Well, they bruised?
They were so bruised.
They were really swollen.
I remember when you told me this.
I remember when you also told me, I was thinking of my parents, they've got a few.
So my mum broke her ankle while pregnant with me.
Oh my God.
having a toddler and I always think of that when I see a pregnant lady with it
also a child I'm like so my mum was heavily pregnant with me with also dealing with a
toddler with a broken ankle my god she said it was really difficult as well because obviously
dad was working really hard so she was trying to like entertain lily but she says you remember
when she like went on her ankle lily was like looking at her oh and lily was mom's like i was
trying so hard not to cry then she just taught lily to look at her toes and lily
Oh, my God.
She was like, Lily, where are your toes?
And Lily was like looking and mum was like, oh my God, oh my God.
And then my sister, we literally arrived on holiday.
My sister's like got that shit crazy energy, like on holiday.
She'll be like, ah, like, so excited.
Like I remember one of the first ones when we arrived in Disney, Lily was like screaming.
And my dad was like, will you shut?
I'm trying to get her that.
Anyway, we were on like a family trip and Lily went like straight up to her room,
jumping on the bed, jumping, jumping, jumping, jumping.
Yay, yeah, yeah.
Oh, my God.
Oh, no.
No.
So literally, we'd been there for less than five minutes.
My dad had to take her to A&A, and she was...
Oh, bless her.
And then possibly one of my favourites, which I know you will love, my dad,
quite young, I would say, was with his mum and sister,
and they were walking ahead and they were going through a car park.
And anyway, walking ahead, walking ahead, all of a sudden,
the car park metal stopper you know that you have to put your ticket in
comes down and bops daddy on the head he felt like that
he said he tasted blood he said he completely
oh my god whacked him on the head he fell to the ground
his mum and sister didn't even know what had happened they were walking along
oh my god he said he tasted blood and out to that I try stand up and you felt dizzy
you. Is that? Why? Oh my God. Isn't that so bad? That reminds me of my dad's cousin. We always said it
was bad, bad karma, a case of karma. Oh, go on. Because he scyved my auntie and uncle's wedding. They'd
been engaged for 18 years and they were getting married. Just so happened to be on what became
Super Saturday of the Olympics in 2012. Oh my God. Wow. And my dad's cousin blew off the wedding because he had
tickets to see Mo Farrah do the 400 meter or whatever he was like I'm not going to go to
you like I've got these tickets to the Olympics like they're hard to come by it's London like I've got
to go so he skives the night before he was at a restaurant he slipped down he's bald he slipped down
the stairs and cracked his head open against one of it was like ceramic oh my god oh my god
he like bashed his head and he had to get stitches oh my god still went to the Olympics
But we were all at the wedding night and he was sending us photos.
And everyone was like, bad juju.
Bad karma.
Bad chujo.
Bad bludgy karma.
Right.
Should we...
Dilemma?
Okay.
Dilemma.
Tell you, tell me.
Hi, girls.
I started seeing a guy a little bit older than me a few months ago.
We have such an amazing chemistry and I really like where we're heading.
Okay.
The only catch is I'm 22 and he's 30.
Right?
That's fine.
When we first started chatting,
he went down this long ramble of how he liked me
because I was mature and how he doesn't date below 25.
I wrongfully just nod along and agreed that I was 25 when he asked
because I fancied him too much.
No, no, no.
So now it's progressed as something that I never thought it would be
and we're now boyfriend and girlfriend and he still thinks I'm 25.
Oh my God.
Until recently.
We went out on a date and I rolled my ankle off the pavement in my heels.
Oh!
I was in so much.
and he had to take me to A&E.
However, when we got to the desk,
she asked for my date of birth
and I just gave it without thinking.
My boyfriend turned to me really confused
and that's when it hit me
that he's realised that I was in fact 22,
not 25.
We spend the rest of the hospital visit in silence.
Turns out my ankle is fractured
and I'm now potentially single.
How do I make this right?
I've had a similar story to this.
This keeps happening to people.
When people, like, someone we know
is lied about their age.
It's doing this current day.
How old does he say he is?
Isn't it something like he says he's like...
Like a lot older.
I'm pretty sure it's a lot older.
How do you know if he's come clean yet?
No, I doubt he has.
I doubt it.
I don't think he has.
But the thing is, is this has also happened to someone I know.
And I'm like...
This has happened a lot recently.
I think people do it.
And then they keep getting caught out
because bad calm and they go over their ankle
and take him to the hospital.
And it's like,
it's just one of those things I'm like
it will come out eventually
no matter how
they'll see it on your passport when you go on holiday
they'll see it on your passport imagine you're getting
married and they ask for identification
it's all
when's your date of birth and need to put these down
on the forms then you find out
it's not necessarily the lie
it's allowing the lie to fester like this
no because the lie I'm like yeah
forgivable like so forgivable
like if I was on a night out with someone
or if I met someone yeah
and they were 30 and they were like really into me
And they were like, oh, like, how old you?
I don't really go for like, I'll be younger than 25 because I'm 30.
I'd be like, yeah, I'm 25.
Yeah, okay, everyone does that.
But then if you've met them for two days, three dates, you need to be like,
look, I'm 22.
And it becomes harder the longer it goes on.
That's the thing.
And I think it's really difficult because I had a situation where I had a guy
lie to me about something.
And it wasn't necessarily, like if he came to me with the issue at hand,
at first.
It's literally so fine.
It's the festering lie that gets you.
I found out literally like four or five months later when he was like,
I'm really sorry I've been lying to you for this month.
That's what sets me off because I'm like,
you're very happy lying to me for that long over something stupid.
What else do you lie about?
What else do you?
That was so easy for you.
What else do you lie about?
So it is a bit of a shit situation.
I think you've just got a grovel.
I think.
You just need to be honest.
Yeah, you need to be...
I also do think you can come back from this.
Yeah, I think so.
But we know someone who's quite a moral mare, Ray.
So we know someone who's girlfriend,
which is so normal, by the way.
Yeah.
I think everyone has done it.
Jump the barriers.
So basically, the barriers were open to go to a train.
They walk straight through without tapping.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
If I know it's open on this end and the other end,
walk on through.
Anyway, the boyfriend, you know more about this to me,
but it was like, this is un-moral.
This is, like, completely...
We know some moral marries.
We do.
If the boyfriend's moral mary, like,
I just can't believe you've said that.
I personally think this can be moved past.
I agree.
Because say if I was...
But actually, if I put it in the other way,
I'd have a hard time getting past it.
But I think I could get past that.
Because if it's an age thing,
yeah, if it's like, I just panicked.
But then again, that kind of proves this point
that it kind of shows your age.
Yeah, it does.
It's like, this is what I don't date younger people.
But I'm also like, what's three years?
What is three years?
What's 36 months?
You know what I mean?
And also, three years, she's going to be twin five.
And also, I just don't think age should be a number
when there's a connection.
Exactly.
And I think maybe that's why he's so upset
is because he feels there is a connection
that doesn't want to be ruined
and he feels like this has jeopardised that.
But I honestly think if you just come at it with logic
and sincerity,
yeah.
You're fine.
Yeah.
I think you just need to, don't bullshit.
Like, on this, I just didn't just be frank.
He'll respect the honesty.
Be like, look, when I first met you,
I really liked you, so I did lie.
Yeah.
thought, don't actually, don't explain
why you lie, just say you did lie. Don't go
into the, but it's happened. Don't
go into the psychology of the lying.
Take the personal things out of it. I lied.
I'm sorry, I did lie.
I should have come clean sooner.
I just didn't really know how.
And now I got caught in it.
There is a world in which I think this is probably a good thing
because it needed to come out.
I, of course, would have eventually told you.
This has upset me because I shouldn't have never really be.
Don't be emotional about it.
it, don't be like, because that shows immaturity.
Taking, I, one of the best things my parents ever taught me
is taking emotions out of things when confronting issues.
Because if you start going, I feel really, I feel this and I feel that.
Like, there's a way you can do it without being like,
like, because the emotion's heightened everything and then it panics everyone.
Yeah, I'm like, if you're like, I feel hurt by X, Y, Z.
on retrospect, I know you probably didn't mean to,
but this is how I feel.
Yeah, yeah.
Because I think it's so salvageable.
Definitely.
It's so salvageable.
Definitely.
And like, genuinely what is eight years?
Like, it's just, like, you'll be 30,
he'll be 38.
Yeah.
Like, it's not, I don't think the age is the issue.
It's the continued life.
Yeah, that's the issue.
You need to be like, don't, don't start saying,
what is eight years?
Like, what even is your issue that I'm not 20?
Don't go down that path.
Yeah.
Take ownership.
Yeah.
Be like, look, I'm sorry that I lied.
I shouldn't have.
And it's also shit that I continued to lie.
Yeah.
I didn't actively mean to.
I just didn't see a way out and that's shit.
Yeah.
That's not really the person I am and going forward.
I don't want to act in that way.
I do see something with you and I do see it going really far.
So I would absolutely love if you could give me a chance to redeem myself.
Absolutely.
Be really logical.
You've got it.
And don't be classic girl ego.
Wait for him to reach out.
You need to reach out.
It's your, yeah, it's your, in your, it's your, for sure.
Yeah.
You need to, like, reach out to him and be like, hey, look.
Yeah.
Sorry about that.
Can we chat?
And I would suggest doing it in person.
Yeah.
And also, good luck with your uncle.
Good luck, yeah.
Bless you.
I know.
Bless you.
Yeah.
Right, are we ready?
Yeah.
Okay.
I've got two.
Oh, I've got one.
So I'll ping pong you first.
Yeah.
My is.
is almost falling. Not falling over. Almost falling. Oh my God. Oh my God. I do it all the time,
especially in heels. And I'm like, whoa, whoa, what? I did it today. I literally got my toe cord on my juve when I was
walking. And I literally, I literally, like, was making the bed. I was making the bed. No,
I got my toe court. I was like, oh, I literally like, grabbed onto the windows. Oh, it's dreadful. It's
dreadful. It's the worst. Also seeing the fall.
Like if you see someone almost fall, you're like,
Oh my God, oh my God, oh my God, I hope they're okay, almost falling.
Almost four, you're like, that's more amazing.
That's a bit embarrassing.
That's humiliating.
Right, you ready?
Yeah.
Okay, literally me having my boot on, completely like in absolute agony,
elevated and someone starts telling me the time that they broke their ankle.
Do you like it?
Like, I'm really, it's really hurting.
Oh, I know your pain.
I broke my ankle about 16.
years ago. Oh, Geraldine. Seriously, darling. Seriously. Can't be doing it.
It's bad enough that I've done it. Do I really want to hear your story?
Well, I'm wincing. Like, genuinely, there's nothing more infuriating than when you're going
through a pain. Yeah. Someone goes to yeah. Yeah, I did that.
That happened to me about six years ago. Oh, seriously, seriously, I'm not bothered.
Yeah. I'm really not bothered. No, it's really infuriating for me. Ready?
Ready.
Me at Liverpool Street Station yesterday.
Guys, I got stuck in between the ticket gates.
And do you know what's really embarrassing?
Is that this happened the week before.
I was howling.
I literally, and I don't know what it is because I genuinely,
because it happened last week,
I've literally been almost running through the ticket barriers
because I'm like, I don't want this to happen to me again.
Your suitcase of suit, your handbag,
was through your boobs through.
And then I got...
Half your body was through.
And I literally got stuck.
And then I'm like...
And the worst thing is, when it happened last week,
I obviously went through...
I went through almost sideways.
So it was just like half tit,
half right side all through.
Other side not.
And I had to like yank myself back.
And it really hurt.
It actually really hurts.
Ow, ow.
And I literally was like,
this is really embarrassing.
I hope this never happens again.
The best bit of ours yesterday
is when you were skewered though.
I was skewered.
I was stuck, frozen in time.
you were literally skewered and then you just went oh no and they just started laughing i literally
was so embarrassed i was like what is happening i burst into laughing i was like only katilid
only fucking me to wait except this girl and this guy that i think they were in a couple like
they were pleasing themselves and she was she was a good and to me first she was like looking
and until you started laughing didn't laugh and then you started laughing and she burst
i like it was so it was so embarrassing oh it was so good i was so
embarrassed and then
what got me the most is that
the guy then opens the barrier for me
and we're walking away and he goes
miss miss miss miss so I turn around
I'm like yeah he goes you can't go through
that with your suitcase
and I was like God thank you
thank you for that
well given that fact I made myself a little
cab I reckon
and then he starts pointing at the
one with like the buggy gate yeah
and he's like you need to go through there
oh well when you piss off
Katie Leach, it's very rare, but she just
battered in my wemms. Like, yes, yes. I was like, oh, I was like, can you not
see, I'm embarrassed right now, sir?
Are you trying to make a mockery out of me right now?
Do you want me to, like, bow to you and say thank you being so good at your job?
And also, I'm like, three other people, the people, like, all of us went through the gates
with their suitcases in the small ones.
I go through the small ones all the time.
The question is, will you ever go through the small gate with a big back again?
I'm really scared because, but the worst thing is my suitcase got through.
I want to know
I need to actually look up
how long the gates
like how much time you have
between the gates opening and the gates closing
because genuinely
I thought I always speed through them
because I'm scared of it happening
But there can sometimes be a delayed response
I don't know if you've seen
that you can tap your card
look
it doesn't open you like
oh well I don't want to tap my card again
and by the time you've looked down
the pad again
the gates have opened
so then you look back up and you're like,
the gates have opened,
so then you need to stop going through
and then it's already kind of shodding.
Yeah.
It needs to be quick.
Gave myself a big egg.
Yeah.
For real.
Big egg.
Big egg.
Right.
Question.
Question.
Question.
Question.
I am Philly.
And I am deadly serious.
Right.
My serious question for you is,
do you think an injury?
So,
you've broken your ankle,
you've broken your arm, you've, blah, blah, blah, blah,
you can put a strain
on your relationship.
Definitely think so.
Do you?
Also, it's one of those things,
it's like instinctness and in health, right?
Absolutely.
But also, you can reveal a lot about yourself
when you're injured and vulnerable.
Yeah, you can.
Because you could be with someone,
if I was with someone for like months and months and months,
and we're having a great time,
but then he breaks his leg.
and needs a lot of care
sometimes because they're frustrated
they're in pain, they're not having fun
it can all get a bit tense
absolutely
so it's like
you know it's the same thing
not the same but like
going on holiday with a partner
you don't know that person in that scenario
until you do it not yet
and like we've all lived together for years
and I learnt things about everyone on holidays
yeah yeah
yeah that's so true
so it's like
you don't know until you're in that situation how you're going to react and how you deal
with it. You're so right. I'm going to have to tell the story of you in the water though.
Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. So Casey's got a rational fear of shocks. Very, very rational. They're
everywhere on the UK channel. She is terrified. They're in the Thames. We were in Olliao and we went to one of
the little island things. But everyone said it's not like it's just us. And they have like
swimming areas. And it's like there are loads of boats around as well. So they have like the
little boys mapping out
where you can swim. And past that,
it's all boats, like all boats
up in dark. So it's quite like a
quiet area for animals and all that
kind of stuff. There were a few people fishing, but
it was all declared safe.
So anyway, and also, the water's
pretty clear and you can...
Your feet are mainly on the ground for most
the time. Anyway,
Katie and I were going for a little swim. I came
back, blah, blah, blah. Anyway, Casey's
swimming around. And she's like,
she decides to get her head under the
And then, like, it's that.
It was just absolutely feral.
And she comes up and she panicked.
I really shat myself.
All of a sudden, she feels she's too far out at sea.
Guys, I'm literally less than 50 metres from the shore.
I literally am the closest to the shore possible.
And I was front crawling back.
You were like, oh, how about when we were in the water the day before?
Katie and I was swimming.
Oh, my God.
I've been doing.
and laps, and she joins me in there.
I'm like, oh, it's bloody, lovely, isn't it?
And she goes, oh, it's gorgeous.
I'm like, oh, this is so nice.
Anyway, I see, like, little ripples coming, and I say,
a wave's coming.
I said, but honestly, give yourself to her.
Just give you your body to it.
And it just takes your way, and it's lovely.
Anyway, I'm like, just give you.
As I say, give yourself to her.
This way, it comes out of nowhere.
Chucks Katie and I've both over, wet hair.
Oh, like Sonny's across our face.
Yeah.
we also 10 seconds before those
Katie and I have been like
we don't want to get our hair work
because we're going out later
we don't want to get it wet
so we really don't want to get our hair wet
we really do and also
the best face ever was Katie
turning around to see this wave
and panicking and then it was like
oh god
oh it's good
oh my god hilarious
okay tell me your silly
so my silly question is
would you rather
yeah
into yourself
on every date you go on
so it can be small or big
however like it's embarrassing like you're on a first date with someone like you trip a little bit
like you like bump into something you like hit your head embarrassing or trip down the aisle
on the day of your wedding oh my god how badly trip you're not going to fall to the floor but like it is a little like
there is a world in which I would say trip down the aisle
because I think it would be very Kitty McNeil.
This is what, this was my thinking because I think I'd go for the last one.
I think I'd say the aisle because I don't think you could deal with every day I go
and without actually falling over or tripping or bumping or not.
I'd be like, oh, I'm exhausted.
Especially if it would put me off going on the day,
so I'd be like, something's going to happen.
No.
Whereas going down the aisle, everyone's like, we know Kitty's got weak ankles.
Oh, bless that.
And then it's, so then you're at the end of the aisle and then you're
getting married and no one remembers it.
Yeah.
It's all in the past.
Completely and everything.
Yeah.
And also, I'll be on my dad's arm.
So at least he can hold them tight.
Oh, yeah.
And he'd be like, you're right.
You're right.
You're right.
I'm like, yeah.
I'm fine.
I mean, at least I've got solidarity there.
Yeah. That's the thing.
Because I reckon like for me personally, I'm obviously single.
If I injure myself and every day, I'd go on there wouldn't be a wedding.
Completely.
That's a really good thought process.
That's a really good thought process.
Like, I'd rather be a bit clumsy.
Yeah.
And he'd be like,
Classic Katie.
What is she like?
What is she like?
Stumbling and bumbling along.
What is she like?
But no.
Oh, it's raining.
Is it?
Yeah.
Oh no.
We're not in Oli'all anymore.
Not in Oliow.
Yeah, that's what I would do.
Okay, cool.
Guys, right, guys, we've got to the end of the air.
Katie's off to y'all.
I'm off, tuttoot.
Toot.
We love you all.
I hope you guys.
Have a great Monday.
And we love you.
And we'll see you next movie.
We love you.
Bye.
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