The Debrief - Heartbreak & Broken Bones | The Debrief Podcast

Episode Date: September 1, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I've got a rebel soul I've got a rebel soul Welcome to the kneebring You're your co-host Kiss, McNeill And your co-host Katie Leech I'm going to grab my Americana Because I am very bougie Coffee gal this morning
Starting point is 00:00:23 I know So when Arch and I were in Bali When we frequented our travels Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. I would have a, look at my feet, they're orange, I would have a, because I'm not a latte girl, I'm not a coffee girl, no. But an iced Americano was lovely to start the day off.
Starting point is 00:00:42 Oh, yes. So now Archie on the weekends makes me one because it feels like we're on holiday. Oh, isn't that bloody lovely? And although it's not a weekend, it's a bloody Monday. It's a Monday. So time for a holiday. Except, well, you're going back home now, Paige. I am.
Starting point is 00:01:00 sojourning back up to, to Yorkshire. To Yorkshire? To Yorkshire. I literally have had the nice I've had, I'm getting just over a week off. Oh, I'm so jealous. I'm so excited. What are you going to do, sleep?
Starting point is 00:01:12 Literally sleep and do nish. Oh, I want to do nothing. Oh my God, I'm so jealous of you. I want it to feel like that gap in between Christmas and New Year's where you don't know what day it is. I've got no idea what's going on. Literally, that's what I want my life to be. Oh my God, that sounds divine.
Starting point is 00:01:26 Yeah, literally. That literally sounds so nice. And what are you going to do? when you get home, you're going to... You said you're going out for dinner tonight. Going out for dinner tonight. Your favourite sports? Tomorrow, no plans.
Starting point is 00:01:37 Thursday, I think I'm doing hot yoga with my mum. Oh, so nice. Friday. No plans. Saturday I'll come back. Oh, lovely. So, we're probably just going to have a little mooch. Hopefully it's a bit sunny then.
Starting point is 00:01:51 Hopefully, although I prefer York when it's miserable. Do you want? When it's rainy. Because it's quite a Gothic city. Yes, it is. So I do like it. it when it's a bit like brew day.
Starting point is 00:02:02 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the uni as well is beautiful. Really lovely. Really nice. So I can't wait, but I'll miss everyone. I know. So it's the way I go home for a long amount of, I probably go home the least out.
Starting point is 00:02:12 Actually, maybe, yeah. No, I think you probably do out of the four of us. So when I do go, I'm like, oh. I hope you miss me. Do you miss me? I hope you miss me every single day. And do you know what on Wednesday? next episode of the summer I down pretty
Starting point is 00:02:30 you'll be watching that at home although I can't imagine your parents will be watching that with you no but I will make sure they do not interrupt my viewing I'll be like listen this is a very important thing for me well you'll be watching on TV yeah I'll be watching on the telly yeah I'll be getting it up getting it up as soon as I wake up coffee yeah it'll be first thing you say
Starting point is 00:02:52 summer I turn pretty viewing absolutely can't wait little sister be there? She will. Oh! She'll want to watch that with me. No, she let me watch that with you. But we'll be catching up.
Starting point is 00:03:04 Absolutely. With that diva. Oh, your little sister, we love it. We're like, tell me all. Oh, so cute. Right, should we crack on? Let's crack on. What's your mantra?
Starting point is 00:03:15 So my mantra for this week is, with every breath, I feel calmer. I really like that. I really like that. I said this so many times, but literally, Just to inhale and do you the world of good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:30 Sometimes when I'm feeling really, really stressed and your chest feels really anxious and tight. Yeah. You're like, oh my God, what do I do? Just a simple breath in. Yeah. Breath out. Oh, ding-dong. It's like drugs to the soul.
Starting point is 00:03:45 Like, oh my God, although. So Katie and I recently went on Hollabobops. Oh, my God. We literally just got back yesterday. So good. And when we were going on our way back through the airport control, I had my, we had carry-ons. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:01 So all our stuff in our little carry-on bags. Yeah. And you know how they're very nicety about putting everything in one tray? It has to be of two trays if it's, it can't be piled up. So anyway, I put my bag in one tray and bearing in mind had all my liquids in. Yeah. But I thought, fuck, you know, they weren't really clear all the way that, were they? So I'll just put it in there.
Starting point is 00:04:22 And then in my other tray was just my jacket, my phone, and my, Airpods. Yeah. And lit stuff. Anyway, that goes straight through. Yeah. No problem. Although it's got a little more liquids in because I thought it'll get checked.
Starting point is 00:04:38 Now it's cool. Went straight through. I thought, oh, I'm front of last night. Other tray. Bomb, bum, bump, go through. Arch goes, your dress, your jacket's being checked out. I said, oh, well, there's nothing in it. And he goes, there's a pill in your tray.
Starting point is 00:04:52 I said, what? He says there's a pill in your try. Honestly, man. So now I'm fucking stressing. I'm like, what? Does it, oh my God, oh my God, oh my God. It's literally going to be like, it's going to be X. I'm like, I'm so scared.
Starting point is 00:05:05 I'm so scared. Detained. Yeah, I'm literally like, but I'm like, it's not mine. It's not mine. Yeah. It's not my mind. So I literally just stood there for a second. I was like, I closed my eyes and just took a breath.
Starting point is 00:05:14 I was like, oh. Also, just remember you're not guilty. You're not guilty. And anyway, it came through and it was a filter. It's one of those tony filters. Honestly, Archie, with his terrible eyesight. I heard him when he said that I was like
Starting point is 00:05:28 No You're actually saying this to her There's a pill in that Well He's like Have you got Have you got paracetamol I'm like oh my god
Starting point is 00:05:38 Have you got a pill or if you're Oh my god I just need to take breath I was like My bum holes clenching My assholes like Squeakings I'm like literally
Starting point is 00:05:49 I was like just close your eyes And a deep breath I was like And then she passed it back And she said There no nothing wrong And I was like, oh, my God, I'm trying to find the spell. And it was a filter.
Starting point is 00:05:59 Filter. So silly. Take a breath. Take a breath. Right. Tell me your mantra this week. My mantra this week is I choose myself every day. Mmm.
Starting point is 00:06:11 I love that one. Yeah. I love that one. Why do you choose? I think I just need to remember. Yeah. I think I'm like, oh, what does Peach want to do? What do I want to do?
Starting point is 00:06:23 Not of us. And I just do it. And you do it. And you do. and you do it with absolute love, care and connection. Yeah, every day. Every damn day. Every damn day.
Starting point is 00:06:33 My song for this week is, I think you can probably guess what it is. So, Kate, the four of us. So the flat, we went on our first flat holiday. Now, we haven't been on holiday with each other before, but in big groups. Yeah. We haven't just been together with the flat. So this is the first time before I was. Big trip.
Starting point is 00:06:51 Big success. Big success. Huge success. Huge success. and we'll be happening again. Yeah. So we went to Portugal. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:59 And we went to Oliao. Oliya! Yay! I finally said it correctly. For the whole trial, I was like, On how. And then it was like,
Starting point is 00:07:07 I read it as Al-H-H-A-O. So it's spelled O-L-H-A-O. And the A has a little wiggly thing above that. The A has a wiggle on the top. Yeah. So anyway, we were there for four days.
Starting point is 00:07:21 Yeah. Four days. It was so long. Really quick trip. But it felt. like we'd done a lot. Really packed it in. We fitted a lot in.
Starting point is 00:07:28 Anyway, on the Friday, we went out, and on the sassi we went out. I've been, like, the Friday we went out in Oliar. Yeah. Oliol. And the sassia we went out in Farrheim.
Starting point is 00:07:41 And both nights, we've, oh God, we found the best places to go. On the Friday, we found this really, really, like, local bar that had music on, which was so much fun. The second night, we found this Irish bar, which was like packed and so much fun. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:55 But both played the song. Now, I'm not talking Abba, okay? No. Because Abba, you would think, okay, fair. Abba's always going to be on as a crowd, please, it's correct. Both nights and the crowds were cheering for it. Yeah. Creep by radio head.
Starting point is 00:08:13 I'm a creep. Yeah. I'm a weirdo. Yeah. And I was like, the first night, I was like, what a panger. Why have I heard the same ages? Then the second night came and I was like looking around like, guys, again. Yeah, again.
Starting point is 00:08:28 So that has got to be my song of the week. That is a great song. Oh, it's brilliant. Yeah. What the hell am I doing here? Yeah. I love the bit that's like, I wish I was special. You're so fucking special.
Starting point is 00:08:45 It's brilliant. It's brilliant. What's for your song of the week? Because it can't talk back. My song is My World by Conan and grey and it's like oh it's my world and it's my life i'm my girl and it's my guy i'll kiss them if i might like it's a bit of a banga dun dun yeah Conan gray i don't really know Conan gray all that well I know he has the song september and it's like just paliester but you to december yeah that's the only one I really know of
Starting point is 00:09:23 And it's like, no, no, no, no, for your, is it that one? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. She's like, I get the tune right. And then I was, he was like, oh, new albums come out, new albums come out. And I was like, okay. And everyone started posting about it. So when we were on the plane, I was like, do you know, I'll listen. I'll just download the album and I'll listen to it. So listen to the album. Oh, you listen to it on the plane? Listen to the album. Fucking obsessed. Fucking obsessed. Fucking obsessed. So, guys, fun of fact, Casey doesn't sleep on planes. Don't sleep on planes. Right.
Starting point is 00:09:57 So the first, when we flew out there, we got a really early fly. Early doors. I downloaded episodes. I was like, I won't sleep. I'll literally watch this. Literally got, put this thing on. Yeah. Watch genuinely a minute of it.
Starting point is 00:10:11 And my headstock's going. Slept for the full three hours. Obsessed. I just can't, I get, I really, I really can't do it. I don't know why. Like, and it's the same in cars, public transport. really, if I'm not comfy, I'm not sleeping, unless I am shattered. Shattered. Shattered. Like, really, really tired.
Starting point is 00:10:30 Although you are on the aisle, say. Yeah. I love the aisle. I hate the aisle. I'll always be on the aisle. I will be in the window, snug as a bug and a rook. I just get stressed by the window because then it impacts how much I drink, because I don't want to go to the toilet and climb over people. My God, when we did the Bali Fly, Archie literally, I felt embarrassed. I felt embarrassed with that poor, because Archie was in the middle.
Starting point is 00:10:53 I was in me, I was near the window, someone was in the aisle. Every 30 minutes. I was like, Archie! I was like, this, you need to, like, next time we need to be on the aisle. Literally.
Starting point is 00:11:06 This is not good. Right, should we recommendation? Yeah. Recker, recommendation for this week. It's got to be Ollia. It's got to be Ollia. It's got to be Ollia. It's got to be Ollia.
Starting point is 00:11:20 We had Ollia. best time. If anyone's going, we went to Figo, no, Finta de Pino, the brunch place. Yes. Yes. Figo de Pita. Figo de Pita. Figo de Pita. Great brunch. That sorted me out.
Starting point is 00:11:40 Also, guys, it's a good price. Great prices. Because Portugal, like the Algarf can be really, really expensive. Yeah. Yeah. I don't really know about Porto. What's Porto like? Is that expensive? I haven't been to Porto. Oh, wait. Haven't I been to Porto? Sorry, I think to Porto.
Starting point is 00:11:54 Where have you been? Lisbon. Lisbon. What's Lisbon like? Lisbon's like London. Yeah. Porto, to be fair, I went out for dinner with Archie's family and they kind of paid so I wouldn't know. But Porto is nice.
Starting point is 00:12:06 But Oliall is cheap. Oliou, and it's amazing. And it's one of those things that it's on the water and you get a little water taxi. Beautiful marina. There are like surrounding islands that are all beaches so you can get a water taxi. It takes like 15 minutes. We did that both days. We loved it.
Starting point is 00:12:21 So good. and the Sunday. Amazing. Yeah. We had the best time. But you can have like, we went out for dinners. We were at the marina having your drinks.
Starting point is 00:12:30 Yeah, cha-cha-cha. Yeah, cha-cha was really nice restaurant. Figo de Pita, definitely great brunch spot. Amazing. And we had a villa that had like two different, or actually three different. Balcones.
Starting point is 00:12:42 So we were like sunbathing, but then we went to the beach. The water taxi is literally like five euros to get there and back. Yeah. Really, really cheap. So good. Definitely recommend if you want to go on a, Friends holiday, have a night out as in like a boogie, a drink.
Starting point is 00:12:56 It's close to Farrow. Kate got with someone. I did. You can't keep a girl down. Nailed it. You can't keep a girl down. When an Olliao. The Oliall men were just like her.
Starting point is 00:13:09 Give me her. And she was like, I will give you that. Hey. I'm ready to give you that. I'm absolutely. If you're like wanting a French trip with sun, with drinks, but it's not like I Beetha. It's not duff, doff, doff. No. It's like children in the day.
Starting point is 00:13:25 There was a nice mark on Sunday. Yeah, really cute. Really, really nice. Right, shall we? Let's de-bredge. Tell me, Katie. So, this week, we are, oh my goodness me. Scoot me. Excuse me the bins so aggressively. Oh, my God, look at him. He's so cute. He's been so aggross.
Starting point is 00:13:51 You're so cute, that man. Where his little headphones are? I don't know. It's little ones that rough around, is it? Like, why do you have these? He's like, it's because when I run, I can't keep them in. It's like the air pods slip out. Oh, lovely.
Starting point is 00:14:06 That's really nice. Right, debriefing. Tell me. This week on the debrief, we are talking all things, injuries. Oh. So this is ranging from clumsy night out casualties or the more dramatic stories we tell. So cover the fact, we tripped and managed to break our arms. Real.
Starting point is 00:14:25 So what do you think is the worst injury you've ever had? To be fair, recently with my ankle. Yeah. I don't have a good history with weak. I've got weak ankles. So, and both times I've done my ankle. Yeah. It's not like I was jumping on a pogo stitch.
Starting point is 00:14:41 No, no. And like doing it on a railing. Yeah. And then decided to go on one leg. Yeah. Literally. This, I've only broken it once. and that was like 12 weeks ago now or something.
Starting point is 00:14:53 And that was literally running for a train. Up hill, went over, heard a snap. That was it. But the second one, this was quite a bad one, to be fair. And that was with you. I didn't break it, but I heavily fractured it. And I was going to get the pizza. I think I'd probably got like an Uber Eats or something.
Starting point is 00:15:12 Yeah. Went over my ankle and fully stacked it, tumble, tumble, tumble, tumble. ended with like my head below my legs my legs were higher I couldn't even move I just lay that and I was like
Starting point is 00:15:25 and because I was on my own I think I'd literally left the flat going to go get the pizza and then I was like oh my God I can't move or I can't move I had to like drag myself like
Starting point is 00:15:36 that was probably the most severe that I was like this is intense yeah no me with my ankles that's an injury other than that's not I don't think I've been like I haven't injured my arm
Starting point is 00:15:50 needs legs I don't think I've really, it's my ankles to get now. Your ankles. If that's what gets me it's the injury. Even on a night out if I'm like, I've had something to drink I need to be careful with the ankles. Yeah. You don't remember. You're not even if you fell down the head.
Starting point is 00:16:07 Oh my God. And everyone was like, what's wrong with that? I said she's got weakly ankle. You was blackout. I was black out. Nothing to do with your ankles. I don't remember. Yeah. Christ. You slip. fell, stacked it, took two people with you. And then we're like, oh my God, is she fucked?
Starting point is 00:16:24 I was like, no, she's got weak ankles. Then you want to vomit. Oh, I don't know. What's your worst injury? I've actually, I'm very accident prone. Like, I'm constantly bumping into things. Uh-huh. Worse, but I don't really remember it.
Starting point is 00:16:43 I fractured my wrist. I broke my finger. Oh. I broken my toe. twice, my pinky toes. Ow, ow, ow. They really hurt. But then I actually think...
Starting point is 00:16:54 How did you broken your pinky toes twice? So, the first time... First time I fell and I just... It was... I don't even know how I did... But literally couldn't bear weight on it for weeks. And the worst thing with toes is you can't really do anything. You just have to grin and bear it.
Starting point is 00:17:11 What do you do? Literally, I just tried to ice and elevate it, but like, you can't get anything for it. So they don't put a mini cast on it? sadly not even though i would have been so cute the second time i was i remember i was arguing with my sister in her room hilarious and i was like well i'm just gonna go and i turned around it must be your older sister yeah yeah and i got my pinky finger caught on the outside of the door i tripped i went flying but my the pinky toe stayed oh I got next to the door frame so I just went and I was like
Starting point is 00:17:45 fuck oh my god oh my god it's like when we were in Olliao and we're actually at Figo de Pitta we turned around on this guy he clearly like done something to his leg procedure on his leg because he had like bolts screwed into his leg like the cage thing around it oh my god it looks so painful that makes my vagina twitch it looked so painful Lady, but it, right, it was like, my vagina's twitching. I was like, mine's too.
Starting point is 00:18:11 I literally. So clench. It looks so painful. So painful. I've also, oh, actually, do you remember when I ran into that lamp post and the bruise on my head? Yeah. Yeah. I was running and I think I just wasn't concentrating and I, like, looked behind to cross the road and went, dong. Oh, ow.
Starting point is 00:18:28 And I had like, do you remember, I had like a purple bruise in the middle of my forehead? Luckily, it didn't go egg-shaped. Oh. Oh, that's the worst when it goes egg-shaped. It wasn't egg-shaped. It was just like a purple bruise. I've done that a little bit of a few days. When I was younger once, I was on like a, you know, those obstacle courses they have in parks.
Starting point is 00:18:47 Like the wooden ones, I was walking. I just slipped on the plank of wood and literally straight on my head. Oh, my God, that's awful. And it was literally like egg on my forehead. Egg nation. More recently, I was going teaching. When I used to teach kids, I used to go into school sometimes and do school workshops. and I had one about, this was really fucking hurt.
Starting point is 00:19:10 It was about Christopher Columbus. I was teaching year one and two kids for half a morning. And it was winter at the time. And I was walking along and there was like black ice. I slipped on the black ice. But I think to stop me from like, I literally thought I was going to face plant the ground because I had my hands full.
Starting point is 00:19:29 So then instead of putting my hands down, I literally just dropped straight onto my knees. and oh my fucking gone I felt so bad because I turned up like in tears like do you guys have an ice bag or something I was like I'm here to teach but like I was like
Starting point is 00:19:44 and I don't think when I'm injured I don't really cry like the pain's usually quite like yeah yeah but I was literally sobbing I couldn't calm myself down I literally was like I'm really in pain and I remember I had to kneel down with all the kids
Starting point is 00:19:58 on it and I was like but it swole up so badly they were so bad bruised and then I remember I couldn't kneel properly for genuinely weeks. It sounds, this is a real first world problem, but like every time I'd work out or do, like, had to do press ups, I couldn't do it on my knees. Like, it fucking hurt. Bloody how.
Starting point is 00:20:17 It was really bad. Well, they bruised? They were so bruised. They were really swollen. I remember when you told me this. I remember when you also told me, I was thinking of my parents, they've got a few. So my mum broke her ankle while pregnant with me. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:20:32 having a toddler and I always think of that when I see a pregnant lady with it also a child I'm like so my mum was heavily pregnant with me with also dealing with a toddler with a broken ankle my god she said it was really difficult as well because obviously dad was working really hard so she was trying to like entertain lily but she says you remember when she like went on her ankle lily was like looking at her oh and lily was mom's like i was trying so hard not to cry then she just taught lily to look at her toes and lily Oh, my God. She was like, Lily, where are your toes?
Starting point is 00:21:05 And Lily was like looking and mum was like, oh my God, oh my God. And then my sister, we literally arrived on holiday. My sister's like got that shit crazy energy, like on holiday. She'll be like, ah, like, so excited. Like I remember one of the first ones when we arrived in Disney, Lily was like screaming. And my dad was like, will you shut? I'm trying to get her that. Anyway, we were on like a family trip and Lily went like straight up to her room,
Starting point is 00:21:30 jumping on the bed, jumping, jumping, jumping, jumping. Yay, yeah, yeah. Oh, my God. Oh, no. No. So literally, we'd been there for less than five minutes. My dad had to take her to A&A, and she was... Oh, bless her.
Starting point is 00:21:44 And then possibly one of my favourites, which I know you will love, my dad, quite young, I would say, was with his mum and sister, and they were walking ahead and they were going through a car park. And anyway, walking ahead, walking ahead, all of a sudden, the car park metal stopper you know that you have to put your ticket in comes down and bops daddy on the head he felt like that he said he tasted blood he said he completely oh my god whacked him on the head he fell to the ground
Starting point is 00:22:23 his mum and sister didn't even know what had happened they were walking along oh my god he said he tasted blood and out to that I try stand up and you felt dizzy you. Is that? Why? Oh my God. Isn't that so bad? That reminds me of my dad's cousin. We always said it was bad, bad karma, a case of karma. Oh, go on. Because he scyved my auntie and uncle's wedding. They'd been engaged for 18 years and they were getting married. Just so happened to be on what became Super Saturday of the Olympics in 2012. Oh my God. Wow. And my dad's cousin blew off the wedding because he had tickets to see Mo Farrah do the 400 meter or whatever he was like I'm not going to go to you like I've got these tickets to the Olympics like they're hard to come by it's London like I've got
Starting point is 00:23:11 to go so he skives the night before he was at a restaurant he slipped down he's bald he slipped down the stairs and cracked his head open against one of it was like ceramic oh my god oh my god he like bashed his head and he had to get stitches oh my god still went to the Olympics But we were all at the wedding night and he was sending us photos. And everyone was like, bad juju. Bad karma. Bad chujo. Bad bludgy karma.
Starting point is 00:23:42 Right. Should we... Dilemma? Okay. Dilemma. Tell you, tell me. Hi, girls. I started seeing a guy a little bit older than me a few months ago.
Starting point is 00:23:51 We have such an amazing chemistry and I really like where we're heading. Okay. The only catch is I'm 22 and he's 30. Right? That's fine. When we first started chatting, he went down this long ramble of how he liked me because I was mature and how he doesn't date below 25.
Starting point is 00:24:08 I wrongfully just nod along and agreed that I was 25 when he asked because I fancied him too much. No, no, no. So now it's progressed as something that I never thought it would be and we're now boyfriend and girlfriend and he still thinks I'm 25. Oh my God. Until recently. We went out on a date and I rolled my ankle off the pavement in my heels.
Starting point is 00:24:27 Oh! I was in so much. and he had to take me to A&E. However, when we got to the desk, she asked for my date of birth and I just gave it without thinking. My boyfriend turned to me really confused and that's when it hit me
Starting point is 00:24:37 that he's realised that I was in fact 22, not 25. We spend the rest of the hospital visit in silence. Turns out my ankle is fractured and I'm now potentially single. How do I make this right? I've had a similar story to this. This keeps happening to people.
Starting point is 00:24:53 When people, like, someone we know is lied about their age. It's doing this current day. How old does he say he is? Isn't it something like he says he's like... Like a lot older. I'm pretty sure it's a lot older. How do you know if he's come clean yet?
Starting point is 00:25:09 No, I doubt he has. I doubt it. I don't think he has. But the thing is, is this has also happened to someone I know. And I'm like... This has happened a lot recently. I think people do it. And then they keep getting caught out
Starting point is 00:25:24 because bad calm and they go over their ankle and take him to the hospital. And it's like, it's just one of those things I'm like it will come out eventually no matter how they'll see it on your passport when you go on holiday they'll see it on your passport imagine you're getting
Starting point is 00:25:36 married and they ask for identification it's all when's your date of birth and need to put these down on the forms then you find out it's not necessarily the lie it's allowing the lie to fester like this no because the lie I'm like yeah forgivable like so forgivable
Starting point is 00:25:53 like if I was on a night out with someone or if I met someone yeah and they were 30 and they were like really into me And they were like, oh, like, how old you? I don't really go for like, I'll be younger than 25 because I'm 30. I'd be like, yeah, I'm 25. Yeah, okay, everyone does that. But then if you've met them for two days, three dates, you need to be like,
Starting point is 00:26:11 look, I'm 22. And it becomes harder the longer it goes on. That's the thing. And I think it's really difficult because I had a situation where I had a guy lie to me about something. And it wasn't necessarily, like if he came to me with the issue at hand, at first. It's literally so fine.
Starting point is 00:26:31 It's the festering lie that gets you. I found out literally like four or five months later when he was like, I'm really sorry I've been lying to you for this month. That's what sets me off because I'm like, you're very happy lying to me for that long over something stupid. What else do you lie about? What else do you? That was so easy for you.
Starting point is 00:26:49 What else do you lie about? So it is a bit of a shit situation. I think you've just got a grovel. I think. You just need to be honest. Yeah, you need to be... I also do think you can come back from this. Yeah, I think so.
Starting point is 00:27:03 But we know someone who's quite a moral mare, Ray. So we know someone who's girlfriend, which is so normal, by the way. Yeah. I think everyone has done it. Jump the barriers. So basically, the barriers were open to go to a train. They walk straight through without tapping.
Starting point is 00:27:20 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If I know it's open on this end and the other end, walk on through. Anyway, the boyfriend, you know more about this to me, but it was like, this is un-moral. This is, like, completely...
Starting point is 00:27:35 We know some moral marries. We do. If the boyfriend's moral mary, like, I just can't believe you've said that. I personally think this can be moved past. I agree. Because say if I was... But actually, if I put it in the other way,
Starting point is 00:27:54 I'd have a hard time getting past it. But I think I could get past that. Because if it's an age thing, yeah, if it's like, I just panicked. But then again, that kind of proves this point that it kind of shows your age. Yeah, it does. It's like, this is what I don't date younger people.
Starting point is 00:28:10 But I'm also like, what's three years? What is three years? What's 36 months? You know what I mean? And also, three years, she's going to be twin five. And also, I just don't think age should be a number when there's a connection. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:28:27 And I think maybe that's why he's so upset is because he feels there is a connection that doesn't want to be ruined and he feels like this has jeopardised that. But I honestly think if you just come at it with logic and sincerity, yeah. You're fine.
Starting point is 00:28:41 Yeah. I think you just need to, don't bullshit. Like, on this, I just didn't just be frank. He'll respect the honesty. Be like, look, when I first met you, I really liked you, so I did lie. Yeah. thought, don't actually, don't explain
Starting point is 00:28:57 why you lie, just say you did lie. Don't go into the, but it's happened. Don't go into the psychology of the lying. Take the personal things out of it. I lied. I'm sorry, I did lie. I should have come clean sooner. I just didn't really know how. And now I got caught in it.
Starting point is 00:29:14 There is a world in which I think this is probably a good thing because it needed to come out. I, of course, would have eventually told you. This has upset me because I shouldn't have never really be. Don't be emotional about it. it, don't be like, because that shows immaturity. Taking, I, one of the best things my parents ever taught me is taking emotions out of things when confronting issues.
Starting point is 00:29:38 Because if you start going, I feel really, I feel this and I feel that. Like, there's a way you can do it without being like, like, because the emotion's heightened everything and then it panics everyone. Yeah, I'm like, if you're like, I feel hurt by X, Y, Z. on retrospect, I know you probably didn't mean to, but this is how I feel. Yeah, yeah. Because I think it's so salvageable.
Starting point is 00:30:02 Definitely. It's so salvageable. Definitely. And like, genuinely what is eight years? Like, it's just, like, you'll be 30, he'll be 38. Yeah. Like, it's not, I don't think the age is the issue.
Starting point is 00:30:13 It's the continued life. Yeah, that's the issue. You need to be like, don't, don't start saying, what is eight years? Like, what even is your issue that I'm not 20? Don't go down that path. Yeah. Take ownership.
Starting point is 00:30:24 Yeah. Be like, look, I'm sorry that I lied. I shouldn't have. And it's also shit that I continued to lie. Yeah. I didn't actively mean to. I just didn't see a way out and that's shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:33 That's not really the person I am and going forward. I don't want to act in that way. I do see something with you and I do see it going really far. So I would absolutely love if you could give me a chance to redeem myself. Absolutely. Be really logical. You've got it. And don't be classic girl ego.
Starting point is 00:30:51 Wait for him to reach out. You need to reach out. It's your, yeah, it's your, in your, it's your, for sure. Yeah. You need to, like, reach out to him and be like, hey, look. Yeah. Sorry about that. Can we chat?
Starting point is 00:31:03 And I would suggest doing it in person. Yeah. And also, good luck with your uncle. Good luck, yeah. Bless you. I know. Bless you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:14 Right, are we ready? Yeah. Okay. I've got two. Oh, I've got one. So I'll ping pong you first. Yeah. My is.
Starting point is 00:31:23 is almost falling. Not falling over. Almost falling. Oh my God. Oh my God. I do it all the time, especially in heels. And I'm like, whoa, whoa, what? I did it today. I literally got my toe cord on my juve when I was walking. And I literally, I literally, like, was making the bed. I was making the bed. No, I got my toe court. I was like, oh, I literally like, grabbed onto the windows. Oh, it's dreadful. It's dreadful. It's the worst. Also seeing the fall. Like if you see someone almost fall, you're like, Oh my God, oh my God, oh my God, I hope they're okay, almost falling. Almost four, you're like, that's more amazing.
Starting point is 00:32:02 That's a bit embarrassing. That's humiliating. Right, you ready? Yeah. Okay, literally me having my boot on, completely like in absolute agony, elevated and someone starts telling me the time that they broke their ankle. Do you like it? Like, I'm really, it's really hurting.
Starting point is 00:32:18 Oh, I know your pain. I broke my ankle about 16. years ago. Oh, Geraldine. Seriously, darling. Seriously. Can't be doing it. It's bad enough that I've done it. Do I really want to hear your story? Well, I'm wincing. Like, genuinely, there's nothing more infuriating than when you're going through a pain. Yeah. Someone goes to yeah. Yeah, I did that. That happened to me about six years ago. Oh, seriously, seriously, I'm not bothered. Yeah. I'm really not bothered. No, it's really infuriating for me. Ready?
Starting point is 00:32:53 Ready. Me at Liverpool Street Station yesterday. Guys, I got stuck in between the ticket gates. And do you know what's really embarrassing? Is that this happened the week before. I was howling. I literally, and I don't know what it is because I genuinely, because it happened last week,
Starting point is 00:33:17 I've literally been almost running through the ticket barriers because I'm like, I don't want this to happen to me again. Your suitcase of suit, your handbag, was through your boobs through. And then I got... Half your body was through. And I literally got stuck. And then I'm like...
Starting point is 00:33:29 And the worst thing is, when it happened last week, I obviously went through... I went through almost sideways. So it was just like half tit, half right side all through. Other side not. And I had to like yank myself back. And it really hurt.
Starting point is 00:33:42 It actually really hurts. Ow, ow. And I literally was like, this is really embarrassing. I hope this never happens again. The best bit of ours yesterday is when you were skewered though. I was skewered.
Starting point is 00:33:51 I was stuck, frozen in time. you were literally skewered and then you just went oh no and they just started laughing i literally was so embarrassed i was like what is happening i burst into laughing i was like only katilid only fucking me to wait except this girl and this guy that i think they were in a couple like they were pleasing themselves and she was she was a good and to me first she was like looking and until you started laughing didn't laugh and then you started laughing and she burst i like it was so it was so embarrassing oh it was so good i was so embarrassed and then
Starting point is 00:34:24 what got me the most is that the guy then opens the barrier for me and we're walking away and he goes miss miss miss miss so I turn around I'm like yeah he goes you can't go through that with your suitcase and I was like God thank you thank you for that
Starting point is 00:34:39 well given that fact I made myself a little cab I reckon and then he starts pointing at the one with like the buggy gate yeah and he's like you need to go through there oh well when you piss off Katie Leach, it's very rare, but she just battered in my wemms. Like, yes, yes. I was like, oh, I was like, can you not
Starting point is 00:34:59 see, I'm embarrassed right now, sir? Are you trying to make a mockery out of me right now? Do you want me to, like, bow to you and say thank you being so good at your job? And also, I'm like, three other people, the people, like, all of us went through the gates with their suitcases in the small ones. I go through the small ones all the time. The question is, will you ever go through the small gate with a big back again? I'm really scared because, but the worst thing is my suitcase got through.
Starting point is 00:35:23 I want to know I need to actually look up how long the gates like how much time you have between the gates opening and the gates closing because genuinely I thought I always speed through them because I'm scared of it happening
Starting point is 00:35:37 But there can sometimes be a delayed response I don't know if you've seen that you can tap your card look it doesn't open you like oh well I don't want to tap my card again and by the time you've looked down the pad again
Starting point is 00:35:51 the gates have opened so then you look back up and you're like, the gates have opened, so then you need to stop going through and then it's already kind of shodding. Yeah. It needs to be quick. Gave myself a big egg.
Starting point is 00:36:01 Yeah. For real. Big egg. Big egg. Right. Question. Question. Question.
Starting point is 00:36:09 Question. I am Philly. And I am deadly serious. Right. My serious question for you is, do you think an injury? So, you've broken your ankle,
Starting point is 00:36:24 you've broken your arm, you've, blah, blah, blah, blah, you can put a strain on your relationship. Definitely think so. Do you? Also, it's one of those things, it's like instinctness and in health, right? Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:36:38 But also, you can reveal a lot about yourself when you're injured and vulnerable. Yeah, you can. Because you could be with someone, if I was with someone for like months and months and months, and we're having a great time, but then he breaks his leg. and needs a lot of care
Starting point is 00:36:53 sometimes because they're frustrated they're in pain, they're not having fun it can all get a bit tense absolutely so it's like you know it's the same thing not the same but like going on holiday with a partner
Starting point is 00:37:08 you don't know that person in that scenario until you do it not yet and like we've all lived together for years and I learnt things about everyone on holidays yeah yeah yeah that's so true so it's like you don't know until you're in that situation how you're going to react and how you deal
Starting point is 00:37:25 with it. You're so right. I'm going to have to tell the story of you in the water though. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. So Casey's got a rational fear of shocks. Very, very rational. They're everywhere on the UK channel. She is terrified. They're in the Thames. We were in Olliao and we went to one of the little island things. But everyone said it's not like it's just us. And they have like swimming areas. And it's like there are loads of boats around as well. So they have like the little boys mapping out where you can swim. And past that, it's all boats, like all boats
Starting point is 00:37:56 up in dark. So it's quite like a quiet area for animals and all that kind of stuff. There were a few people fishing, but it was all declared safe. So anyway, and also, the water's pretty clear and you can... Your feet are mainly on the ground for most the time. Anyway,
Starting point is 00:38:12 Katie and I were going for a little swim. I came back, blah, blah, blah. Anyway, Casey's swimming around. And she's like, she decides to get her head under the And then, like, it's that. It was just absolutely feral. And she comes up and she panicked. I really shat myself.
Starting point is 00:38:31 All of a sudden, she feels she's too far out at sea. Guys, I'm literally less than 50 metres from the shore. I literally am the closest to the shore possible. And I was front crawling back. You were like, oh, how about when we were in the water the day before? Katie and I was swimming. Oh, my God. I've been doing.
Starting point is 00:38:50 and laps, and she joins me in there. I'm like, oh, it's bloody, lovely, isn't it? And she goes, oh, it's gorgeous. I'm like, oh, this is so nice. Anyway, I see, like, little ripples coming, and I say, a wave's coming. I said, but honestly, give yourself to her. Just give you your body to it.
Starting point is 00:39:06 And it just takes your way, and it's lovely. Anyway, I'm like, just give you. As I say, give yourself to her. This way, it comes out of nowhere. Chucks Katie and I've both over, wet hair. Oh, like Sonny's across our face. Yeah. we also 10 seconds before those
Starting point is 00:39:21 Katie and I have been like we don't want to get our hair work because we're going out later we don't want to get it wet so we really don't want to get our hair wet we really do and also the best face ever was Katie turning around to see this wave
Starting point is 00:39:32 and panicking and then it was like oh god oh it's good oh my god hilarious okay tell me your silly so my silly question is would you rather yeah
Starting point is 00:39:43 into yourself on every date you go on so it can be small or big however like it's embarrassing like you're on a first date with someone like you trip a little bit like you like bump into something you like hit your head embarrassing or trip down the aisle on the day of your wedding oh my god how badly trip you're not going to fall to the floor but like it is a little like there is a world in which I would say trip down the aisle because I think it would be very Kitty McNeil.
Starting point is 00:40:24 This is what, this was my thinking because I think I'd go for the last one. I think I'd say the aisle because I don't think you could deal with every day I go and without actually falling over or tripping or bumping or not. I'd be like, oh, I'm exhausted. Especially if it would put me off going on the day, so I'd be like, something's going to happen. No. Whereas going down the aisle, everyone's like, we know Kitty's got weak ankles.
Starting point is 00:40:45 Oh, bless that. And then it's, so then you're at the end of the aisle and then you're getting married and no one remembers it. Yeah. It's all in the past. Completely and everything. Yeah. And also, I'll be on my dad's arm.
Starting point is 00:40:53 So at least he can hold them tight. Oh, yeah. And he'd be like, you're right. You're right. You're right. I'm like, yeah. I'm fine. I mean, at least I've got solidarity there.
Starting point is 00:41:02 Yeah. That's the thing. Because I reckon like for me personally, I'm obviously single. If I injure myself and every day, I'd go on there wouldn't be a wedding. Completely. That's a really good thought process. That's a really good thought process. Like, I'd rather be a bit clumsy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:17 And he'd be like, Classic Katie. What is she like? What is she like? Stumbling and bumbling along. What is she like? But no. Oh, it's raining.
Starting point is 00:41:27 Is it? Yeah. Oh no. We're not in Oli'all anymore. Not in Oliow. Yeah, that's what I would do. Okay, cool. Guys, right, guys, we've got to the end of the air.
Starting point is 00:41:36 Katie's off to y'all. I'm off, tuttoot. Toot. We love you all. I hope you guys. Have a great Monday. And we love you. And we'll see you next movie.
Starting point is 00:41:43 We love you. Bye. I've got a rebel soul I've got a rebel soul I've got a rebel soul

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