The Debrief - Help I've Got Hangxiety! | The Debrief Podcast

Episode Date: October 21, 2024

Welcome back to The Debrief! This week we talking all things hangxiety! How to deal and how to avoid! As always please send any debriefs or dilemmas to hello@thedebriefpodcast.c.uk or DM us @the.debri...efpodcast Have an amazing week! Lots of love,K+K xx Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 welcome to the deep room here we are again she's back she's back and better than ever she's back guys you were fretting where's she gone where is she i was crying the entire time yeah absolutely here where was i you at rehears. I was at rehearsals. Yeah. That's where I was. Booked and blessed. Singing my little heart out. Under the bridge of sun.
Starting point is 00:00:32 Under Italian skies. Oh, you know it. I'm so excited. All of my uni friends are like, I can't wait to come. Oh, bless. I'm so excited. That's so sweet. Even one of them wants to come to the other thing you're doing
Starting point is 00:00:46 i know i know i was like it was so funny like on the weekend i went to my friends like house party and i always find it so funny when they're like oh and so what do you do and most of them were like peace officers and i'm an actress and they were like oh amazing and then all of a sudden they were like oh we'll come and And I'm like, get them there. I was like, everyone, see you in the front row. Bums in seats. Yeah, it's when you joke, though, when you go like, oh, see you there. And then they're like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:14 And you're like, genuinely. I felt like with our friend. 100%. When he came to Into the Woods. Because he was like, I will come. I will come. And I was like, no, it's fine. You're fine Woods because he was like I will come I will come and I was like no it's fine like 50 people are fine
Starting point is 00:01:27 and he was there press up yeah probably a long it's so funny I feel like when you especially as a performer like when you're actually
Starting point is 00:01:36 in someone you see who loves you yes yeah wants to come see me 100% yeah completely I love it so much
Starting point is 00:01:43 but Katie you're now a graduate graduate cap and fucking down guys she's an ma woman official master of arts how funny i'm like that is funny i rolled i have a fucking phd you'll be a doctor no honestly i rolled around on the floor every friday morning for a year and they gave me a master's degree with distinction. Isn't that brilliant? I mean... Hang on a sec.
Starting point is 00:02:09 I didn't realise that. So some people got distinction, some people got... It's past merit distinction. Do you know? Do you know anyone else? Yeah, I do. I can't wait to dish this afterwards. Sorry, guys.
Starting point is 00:02:21 This is knowing what it is. My cap and gown fell off in oh oh my god my my cap fell off at the very end where we all had to do a moving ensemble song we're all very close in harmony did you panner my friend's cap fell off well the thing is i felt it like slipping did it come forward or back back so i started like singing with my head forward to try and balance it and then it just came clean off it was like i've had nothing well actually so it was right in front of the the president of our school is benedict cumberbatch he came in to like shake our hands and give us our diploma so that happened in front of him yeah
Starting point is 00:02:59 but what happened is apparently he's got like fan accounts that people, so this person has gone onto like all the people who are graduating at Lambda and has taken like screenshots and posted it on their fan account of Benedict Cumberbatch. And I'm in one of the photos with me without my fucking cap on. And it's called like the Cumberbatch or something. And I'm like, they're like, fuck off. It's so funny. I was like, oh, wow, this is're like it's so funny i was like oh wow this is this is great this is so funny honestly the worst thing is is that when holly's cat fell off people start
Starting point is 00:03:34 laughing my cat fell off people were laughing again but some people didn't see our cats fall off so they came off and they're like it was meant to be a movie with fucking tribute because i was laughing at us how rude and i was like no guys it was just a comedic yeah just just me having to upstage holly what did holly do when it came up did you because we were next to each other her and she was like oh my parents were there and they were like oh yeah classic classic
Starting point is 00:04:06 honestly I came off my course leader and was like it had to be the two of you didn't it yeah I didn't love it
Starting point is 00:04:13 it was like I've got a video of our show do you yeah I can't wait to see that I told Archie and he was like
Starting point is 00:04:19 I need the video now I was like have you put it on your finster no I was actually a little bit oh no you have to you have to oh i'll do it i'll say you have to right shall we let's crack on okay so tell me your mantra this week my mantra is i'm capable of anything love it love it love it you're a capable
Starting point is 00:04:36 woman i'm getting it a master's and you can't fall it off yeah capable of recovering from that moment seamlessly you know it yeah big time you know what's your mantra this week is i'm achieving all of my goals every single fucking one no guys i'm a busy bee at the moment i'm like around the whole world oh yeah i hear you i'm buzzing around so i am i am knackered oh yeah yeah yeah but i'm also good knackered high on life and i'm like going off to my job like tick and then i go off to do my play tick then yeah off to a showcase tick i'm like look at me achieving everything look at me being a fucking weapon dramatic weapon i'm just like fucking buzzing around onto my necks light as a feather fucking no sweat no sweat fucking just shimmying in no so
Starting point is 00:05:27 honestly though i must say you know how hot she's doing half marathon every day in november so i've agreed to do one of them every week with him so i'm gonna do four no so i'm gonna do four and yesterday i did a 15k yeah it's like okay get myself excited but oh my god i was like 10k is my sweet spot i was like 50k i was like fucking hell i've still got six and a half k to go well auntie messaged me and he was like do you want to do one and i was like funny funny you were like no i was like i'll walk one with you but even i said i'd walk and my mum was like gotta be careful katie you're not trained i'm like i was like be careful i'm like what i'm sure i can walk 20 kilometers you gotta go i don't got it um okay so my song for this week is in tribute to my mother
Starting point is 00:06:20 oh because it is the 15th of october today which is her birthday happy 60th to you honestly this bunny was so excited to turn 60 oh we were going to riding down soho in a rickshaw and she kept like shouting at people going i'm 60 oh i love you i'm 60 and then people wouldn't listen to her and she'd go hey hey and i was like mama i was like oh my god i love our name so this song is tribute to her and it is the boys of summer don henley oh i can see in the sun in the sun so this is oh i love it that's a great song isn't it oh yeah i love your parents oh they're good good bunnies they're good buddies tell me what your um my my song is so recently i've heard the a bit of
Starting point is 00:07:12 movement in the morning can can't help like boost your mood and your vibes like get your high vibes for the day so usually while i'm brushing my teeth i have a little boogie. Oh, love that. Two, Move On Up, Curtis Mayfield. Move on up. A great song. Banger. Great song. I love every second of it. And now I look forward to like brushing my teeth in the morning.
Starting point is 00:07:40 Yeah, you're like, can't wait to hear that song. Can't wait to get it fucking brewing. I know. Yeah, you're like, can't wait to hear that song, isn't it? Can't wait to get it fucking brewing. Oh, what's you? I know. Yeah. For our recommendations this week, Katie.
Starting point is 00:07:51 Yes. Recommendations. Recommendations. Do you have one? Would you be happy to give you one? See, I have one. Tell me, tell me. I have one.
Starting point is 00:07:59 Well, actually. Okay. So, this is Forza Wine at the National Theatre. Love it. Banging venue. Love it. so this is fours of wine at the National Theatre love it banging venue love it banging drinks love it great vibes
Starting point is 00:08:11 usually followed by a theatre trip which I'm always down for is that the rooftop one yeah love that place on South Bank as well
Starting point is 00:08:17 and I do like South Bank I love South Bank a lot yeah it's very like creative South Bank yeah you've got the globe you've got. Yes. You've got the Globe. You've got the National Theatre.
Starting point is 00:08:27 You've got the BSI. All oozing out onto the Thames. Oh, I love that. Yeah. Oh, I like that place. It's quite good, like, if you're a tourist in London. Yes. Because you don't know that there's a bar at the top of the National Theatre.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Yeah, it's nice. But if you go see something at the National Theatre, go to the bar at the top, then you get, like, a nice view of London. It's cute. It's gorgeous. Yeah. Fabulous. Well, if you go see something at the National Theatre, go to the bar at the top, then you get like a nice view of London. It's cute. It's gorgeous. Yeah. Fabulous.
Starting point is 00:08:48 Well, should we go on? Let's start playing to you. Stay brief. So this... Tell me. This week, we're discussing all things hangxiety.
Starting point is 00:09:01 Oh. Now, some of you may be familiar with this feeling. I know I certainly am you know it so anxiety known as hangover anxiety the real definition is the feeling of being overwhelmed or anxious while recovering from excessive drinking which can be distressing and trigger panic attacks says experts so some of these worries and anxieties are completely unfounded however sometimes the anxiety is the only way to get through previous night's actions yeah so my
Starting point is 00:09:30 question to you is have you ever had anxiety because i i'm intrigued with this answer i so i'm usually one that won't forget what i've done. Yes. So when I wake up and I know I've like run around the club with my boobs out, I'm like, ha, funny. But when I wake up and I don't, then I'm like, what did I do? That's when it's ridiculous. So for example, like a few weekends ago when I talk about the boobs in the club, I didn't remember that. And I didn't even remember how I got into that.
Starting point is 00:10:04 So I woke up feeling really guilty being like whoever put me into bed must have had a shit night but I get more anxiety of like how I've affected someone else not really about myself no yeah about myself I'm like oh legend I can come back from this yeah but I'm like oh god I hope I didn't like ruin it because basically Katie had to come back like because I was like i want to go home i was so she was like okay i'll take you in my mind i'm like oh shit i hope i didn't ruin her night do you know what i mean yeah yeah that's what makes me more like oh worried rather than yes oh my god did i embarrass myself i'm like well if i embarrass myself i didn't embarrass myself yeah it's by the by the law of the ducks back yeah whereas i've got quite a few
Starting point is 00:10:43 friends who wake up and they're like oh my my God, did I say anything really bad? Yes. And I'm like, I don't really care about that. Yeah. I'm like more, how did I, did I upset anyone else? Yes. Yeah. 100%. How about you?
Starting point is 00:10:54 I'm the same. I would say, I would say the same. Yeah. It's usually if I don't remember and that's only happened like, I would say three times in my life where I feel like I've actually blacked out.
Starting point is 00:11:06 But like most of the time I'm kind of like hilarious. Banter. Hilarious. I got pied the other week, guys. Oh my God. Did you? What did you tell me? I did tell you this.
Starting point is 00:11:17 Oh, you did? I got pied the other week. And even then the anxiety wasn't that rife. I was just like, banter. It was a little bit sore rife. I was just like, banter. It was a little bit sore morning off where I was like, you know when you wake up and something embarrassing or bad has happened and then you think it didn't. And then the first like 30 minutes of you being awake,
Starting point is 00:11:36 you're like, no, that did happen. That 100% happened. That was embarrassing. But by like 3pm that afternoon, oh, good banter. Yeah, yeah. You were like, absolute fuck.
Starting point is 00:11:49 Yeah, but I feel like it's the same thing where I'm always like, I'm really worried that I've ruined someone else's night. Like if someone has a bad experience on a night out,
Starting point is 00:11:57 then I'm like, I feel responsible for it sometimes. Yeah, yeah. Completely. Like it's like, if I vomited, I wouldn't care
Starting point is 00:12:03 that I'd vomited or whatever, but I'd care if like, I'd done it in someone's room or I'd be like oh my god did I yeah yeah I mean I get you but I feel like some people get really some people get really anxious about everything to do with the night so they'll be like did I say anything did I do anything did I offend but but some people don't even this is what freaks me out is that usually i'm fine because i remember what happens but when people are like i've got a friend we've got like a mutual yeah and she never remembers the night out ever so she'll wake up and be like was i rude
Starting point is 00:12:37 to you was i rude to anyone i'm like oh my god i'm like look i can't vouch for everyone else yeah but you're fine with me yeah Yeah, yeah. That scares me. Well, we have some friends that it is just, like, every morning of, like, after a night out, there's always the double check being like, did I do anything? And I'm like, either, like, if you don't remember. Yeah. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:13:00 Mm-hmm. But, like... But I'd have to get pretty blackout, like did um it looks well don't we all and i'd have to get pretty blackout like i did a few weeks ago yeah to be like i cannot remember this like i was like wearing my shoes oh lily had them oh you're kidding that's crazy basically guys i took my shoes off in the club and i was like where the fuck did they go thought i gave them to katie thought i gave them to v yeah i gave them to your honor none of the girls were like girl i didn't have that and then he was like did you ever get no shoes back i was like what do you mean she was like when i was holding him in the club i was
Starting point is 00:13:35 like it was you you are my gandhi angels man genuinely i know i feel like it's apparently it's because when alcohol makes you more relaxed so when people like obviously when people are drunk they're a more relaxed version of themselves yeah 100 so maybe then people just get anxious because they're like oh i'm behaving like completely uninhibited right now 100 yeah i completely agree and also it's like, I completely feel the whole drunk words or sober thoughts. So you're thinking, what did I say? Because I kind of meant it, but I didn't really want you to know. Yes.
Starting point is 00:14:12 Do you know what I mean? Yes. So like, say if you fancy someone and you're like, God, I think you're so fair. And then in the morning you're like, yeah, I do, but I really didn't want you to know. Or if you're thinking, God, that girl's so jarring and you're like, you're a pain in my ass. And then you're like, yeah, you are, but I'm sure. Oh my God, actually, I've got some gossip to tell you, you're a pain in my arse. And then you're like, yeah, you are. Oh my God, actually, I've got some gossip to tell you, but I'll tell you after the pod. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:14:29 Yeah, I know. I actually was like, what the fuck, but I'll tell you later. Interesting. Great. So we've been doing some research. Yeah. And we've created a blueprint of sorts to help anyone listening, ourselves included. Real.
Starting point is 00:14:42 To help ease or get rid of this anxiety after you've had too many dreams yes or a bit of like bedroom anxiety when you wake up yeah like eyes of me literally last week yeah so the first one which i think is personally for me the best get outside yeah stomp it out get some fresh air into that face yours yeah. Wash your face. Do not sit in your crusty, dusty bed. No. No. Because it will make you ten times what it's going to help. Even if it's just like for a 20-minute walk to go to Tesco's.
Starting point is 00:15:13 Yeah. And then come back. But, you know, put in a podcast. Get some fresh air. And even if it's up, as we said, like, even if it's up and down the road, literally just around the block, it will help you calm your mind and give you a little main character moment to refocus yes 100 because if you're stomping it out then you're like look at the
Starting point is 00:15:32 birds they didn't see what i did last night 100 i don't care giggle to it like you know sometimes yeah i when when things are going on in my life and i'm like oh my gosh oh my, oh my gosh, oh my gosh, oh my gosh. I think, you're going to laugh at this. I go onto my maps on my phone and zoom out and see how big the world is. And I'm like, I can't even see where I am right now. I actually love that. I actually love that. I literally am like, this is how minuscule the problem is. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:01 I love that. So when you go outside, just think think literally literally it's a little deep is it that deep it's not like it's on a billboard no it's not like it's on national news no so you're fine and it's one of those things that i think i always like to think as well people are waking up with the some people that morning are waking up with the worst hangover of their life because everyone's had it the worst hangover of their life. Because everyone's had it, the worst hangover. Everyone can identify it pretty easy. Mindless Christmas do.
Starting point is 00:16:30 Oh, hot tub night. That was... What was yours? Liverpool, Liverpool. Liverpool has to not wear. Liverpool has to not wear. You will never be Liverpool. I don't think I will.
Starting point is 00:16:41 I've been close. I've been close, but never quite. Liverpool was just like the queen of anxiety. That was anxiety. That was anxiety. But yeah, some people are waking up with the worst hangover. So if you feel a little bit ropey, I'm telling you, Bob down the road is probably unable to bring in his bed. Quivering. Yeah, quivering. Like, what did I do last night? So it's all good. The next one that I think is quite good that a lot of our friends do,
Starting point is 00:17:08 speak to friends. Yeah. Call up your friend, give them a little text and just be like, can I get a bit of confirmation and affirmation that I'm okay? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:17 Like, I didn't upset you. I didn't. Yeah. I don't do it because I, oh no, I did after I got really drunk. I was like, oh my God, I didn't annoy you, did I? No. Yeah, yeah. I was I, oh no, I did after I got really drunk. I was like, oh my God, I didn't annoy you, did I? No, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:28 I was like, oh my God. But I wouldn't say I would, because we live together, it's easy. I can just go to you and we're usually on the same nights out. And also, yeah, if there's one person that's going to tell you, like it will be, yeah. Yeah, you'll be like, I love you, but yes. You were irritated. I feel like as well, like when you live with the boys that we live as well, if I've done anything embarrassing, I'll be like, I love Cupid. Yes. You were irritated. I feel like, as well,
Starting point is 00:17:45 when you live with the boys that we live as well, if I've done anything embarrassing, I'll know about it. They will not let you get away with that. I'll know. They will not get away, let you get away with it. They'll be like, Katie, what happened? Although Archie forgot I got pied. And then I brought it up and he was like, what?
Starting point is 00:17:59 And I was like, yeah, I got pied. And then it just relented. Oh, no. And then he was like... He started laughing and you were like... I was like, i got pied and then then just relented and then he was like he started laughing and you're like it's like for fuck's sake yeah so i think that's quite a good way especially if they were on your night out they kind of know you and also your friends love you so yeah we'll also be like you were just drunk it's fine yeah literally zoom out of that map zoom out yes yeah tell me about the next one because i
Starting point is 00:18:27 found it interesting so this one was so eating before you go to bed so when i saw this i thought it was quite self-explanatory because like most people do eat when they're drunk just soak up the alcohol before you go to sleep however it's because it levels out your blood sugar which helps with reducing cortisol which is the stress hormone that is a contributing factor to like anxiety oh so guys if there's any more confirmation to get the fucking mackeys stuff your face get something gluten-free chicken nugget girl whack them in whack them in the oven literally so then get it all soaked up and then you'll be less stressed i personally can't be a girly where you go to bed drunk like i need a bit of food before no
Starting point is 00:19:12 because i'm quite a vomiter when i'm drunk yeah but i'm the vomiter of the night rather than of the morning yes like some people are like oh i've done this one i'm like what i have to do it before yeah yeah um but i'm like i gotta get some food into me yes otherwise i'll be going to bed to see shira oh and i feel that when your belly sloshes and you can hear it oh like a water bed and you're yeah and you're just like oh my god it's when you feel hot and you like strip off and you're like cuddled in the corner like shaking it's when you like shut your eyes and the roof's still spinning and i'm like i've overdone it genuinely do you know what gets me though is that alcohol is legal yeah i don't something that does this to us and obviously
Starting point is 00:19:56 we're talking about excess right now we're talking about when we get on a night out and i have a bit too much yeah we're not talking about every single time you have a drink because if you were then you should seek help but like the fact that alcohol is legal gets me i know because it is like it is very damaging because i'm kind of like prohibition go for it like do what i mean i'm like i understood where prohibition were all about ban it like how it's interesting yeah in a way it is like well it is it is a drug it's a drug isn't it and it's intoxicating so it's just like imagine if what like care or coke was made legal yeah everyone's just like going out on nights out it's like bags in hand yeah so it's an yeah it is really maybe because it's like in moderation it's not bad. But still. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:20:45 Have you heard about the new law in Switzerland? No. That the law is if you get a guinea pig, you can't just have one guinea pig. You need to have two. Because if they're on their own, they get depressed. Oh, my God. Why could I see this for you?
Starting point is 00:20:59 Little farm of guinea pigs. Poor guinea pig. Poor little guineas. I was like oh my god that's adorable i was thinking as children we had two guinea pigs yeah and then one thought she passed away then my bad boy was like sticking here to the end yeah so we got another one for my sister i used to bite tinkerbell i was like bad tinkerbell oh my god what the fuck but tinkerbell was a boy like tinkerbell was like hey hey and then squeak
Starting point is 00:21:26 used to like nibble him not even nibble attack so then we had to like put a barrier in between their different you know in guinea pig hutches there's like one level the boys are fighting yeah in the heart those guinea pigs were fighting their own they're like yeah it's my kind of my tough my tough my tough. My tough. My tough. Okay, and then the last one is, remember that in most cases, within a week, it's all going to be gone. All water under the bridge, guys.
Starting point is 00:21:52 It's all going to be forgotten. It'll be fine. And also, just remember how quickly gossip happens. Yeah. In a friendship group, you go from one thing to another to another to become, and then literally a week on, you're like, oh my God, I forgot that happened. No, literally.
Starting point is 00:22:04 And it's also one of those things as well at least you're providing good entertainment 100 do you want to be the boring one that never has anything so i offer him what katie did like what what do you remember do you remember yeah that was a bit of a legend star of the night actually yeah thank you okay now so let's crack on to debrief dilemmas i've got a good one i've got a good one who do you want to hit first you go first all right darling here we go so anxiety has hit me like a ton of bricks real i'm really not sure what to do and even don't know how to handle it so girls before i start debriefing i wanted to say something this has never ever happened to me before and i'm not a bad person so please don't judge okay i just
Starting point is 00:22:50 really need some advice okay it must be good must reduce it so context i'm dating my best friend's brother okay she wasn't very pleased about it when we came out and told her in fact she said i betrayed her trust and should have told me I had feelings for him before acting on it. That's tough. It took her lots of time to see through it, but after time, her and I were back on track. Amazing.
Starting point is 00:23:16 There were a few ground rules. Don't do PDA in front of her. She doesn't want me to talk to her about the sex life. And third, don't, capital letters, break his heart. Ooh. Recently, me and let's call my boyfriend Ollie have been having some issues. We've been together now for eight years.
Starting point is 00:23:38 Eight. God. Well, surely the sister could loosen up on the rules a bit now. Like. God. Well, surely the sister could loosen up on the rules a bit now. Like, I'm sorry, but that's one third of our lives. Not even one third. We're not even 24 yet. Yeah, that's crazy. Eight years is a long time, especially not to do PDA.
Starting point is 00:23:57 Give me a little kiss on the cheek. No, he's like, that is disgusting. No, I need to be. Move away. Yeah, we've been together eight years and I have a lot of love for him, but I don't think I'm in love with him, if that makes sense.
Starting point is 00:24:11 Oh, no. We've just not been seeing eye to eye on a lot of things. I brought this up with him and said, I don't think we're right for each other. He kicked off and couldn't see my side. Anyways, last Saturday, I broke up with him. As in, my dad arrived to help me get all my stuff and move out of our house god i've had enough i didn't want to be with him anymore and he's a really great guy girls but he's just not my guy yeah okay that's
Starting point is 00:24:36 a cute thing i haven't heard from my best friend but i assume ollie would have told her everything and to be honest i needed some time to heal myself and just be with my family as well a few days later my best friend asked me if i was still coming to her house party to which i felt touched and a little confused as i didn't think she'd want me there yeah as i'd just broken up with her so i responded well i would love to if that's still okay few days go by and i'm getting ready to go to the house party and i arrive slightly nervous nervous as i'm worried she'll be angry at me but i assume it's best to face it head on we love her i know i'd be like i'd be carrying in the corner i wouldn't go because at the end of the day we love each other other, and I want to get through this. I turn up, and she's acting completely normal.
Starting point is 00:25:27 Joking, laughing, lots of hugs, kisses. It starts to dawn on me that he hasn't told her. Oh, my God. As she asks me, where's Ollie? The night goes on, and I'm getting more and more drunk with the prospect of having to tell her myself i go outside for some alone time and just start crying putting my eyes out feeling guilty with being there and her not knowing but also emotional with everything that's going on with
Starting point is 00:25:57 ollie my best friend's boyfriend let's call him tom comes out for a smoke and sees me crying and comes over to comfort me him and i've got reasonably close over the years as he was really close with ollie yeah also i'm best friends with my best friend i end up confessing to him about ollie and he looks shocked which makes me cry even more as i say she's gonna hate me she's gonna hate me he says no she won't you did the right thing i'll never feel guilty for putting yourself first lovely at that point i don't know what pink and mitch i grabbed tom's face and kissed him and let me tell you it wasn't any pack we must have been going for at least a minute i only stopped as i heard my best friend call out for Tom. Tom!
Starting point is 00:26:49 I rushed off and caught a train home without even saying goodbye to anyone. Now I have woken up in a drunken mess in my bed. Oh, God. With the scar still on and my pizza in my sheets. My hair extensions are killing me and I don't know what to do. The anxiety has never been this bad. I not only have broken up with her brother and showed up to her party without her knowing, but then kissed her boyfriend.
Starting point is 00:27:10 Shit, I'm the worst. What do I do? Great story. The worst thing is, is my first thing was like, move. I'm like, just leave. Avoid. Just completely leave. Change identity. I'm like just leave avoid just completely leave change identity
Starting point is 00:27:28 move to like Wales just me go to the country you fucked it like that's what I do you fucked it fuck
Starting point is 00:27:39 because I'm trying to think like what I would do if you came to me with this be like I break up with Archie but then I've also got with Lucy I've got with your sister god oh yikes that is a bit of a yikes but a yikes we can get over i literally i think the best way to to go forward is maybe talk to tom first because there is a world in which you're technically not with this other guy now no he doesn't necessarily need to know who ollie ollie yeah he doesn't need to know you're not together so you shouldn't you don't have to make a big song and dance about
Starting point is 00:28:31 telling him the other thing that triggers me is tom was kissing for a minute as well yeah yeah so i think the friendship if it can be salvaged great but i feel like if you were honest i don't it won't be personally i think you need to now evaluate what is more important to you your integrity or your friendship because you can't have both no i'm like you either need to keep your integrity be honest and say what's happened or you want to keep your friendship and if you want to keep your friendship i don't think you can be honest with keeping that friendship because personally if i had a brother you were dating my brother yeah eight years broke up with him turned up to my house didn't tell me then got with my boyfriend what the fuck it's sticky it's sticky it's sticky, it's sticky.
Starting point is 00:29:28 So I personally feel like this is a time to turn over a new leaf with that family regardless. Say goodbye to the boyfriend. Say goodbye to the friend. Do an Angus Thongs and Perfect snogging. Dye your hair blonde. You know, do something like, take this time to discover yourself. Yeah, yeah. Again. Do you think she needs to tell
Starting point is 00:29:46 because i'm personally like tom did kiss her back for a minute it wasn't like she went and he was like if i were her he was smacking off his her face i would say i would let her know because she shouldn't be with tom anyway yeah yeah, yeah. If he's kissing besties. That's crazy. Randos, fine. Besties. That's a bit psychotic. Randos is still not the vibe.
Starting point is 00:30:16 Besties is so far not the vibe. Let me tell you, I reckon Tom has not told your best friend. No, no. He won't say a smidgen. Oh, no, not at all i think the first protocol is you need to tell him about your boyfriend your ex-boyfriend ollie yeah because he clearly hasn't told her yeah and i think you need to i think you need to contact her and say can we talk yeah don't do any bullshit it was really nice seeing you last time yeah i think you need to be like can we talk yeah don't do any bullshit it was really nice seeing you last time yeah i think you need to be like can we talk meet up in a neutral place yeah don't meet me up at her house or your
Starting point is 00:30:49 house yeah like in a park or a coffee shop so that you both have chance to be like if you want to leave you can leave yeah i have to be like you're in my fucking house yeah then you need to tell him you've broken up with ollie yeah and be like this is and it was really uncomfortable coming to us because i thought you knew yeah i assumed ollie told you and just be honest yeah i think we need to just say to her that i love him i really really love him but i just don't think we're right for each other anymore yeah i just because she can't say you are and force you to be together yeah so do that you need to get that out of the way. Yeah. And yeah, I think going in with the knowledge that you're like, okay, I don't think we can come back from this
Starting point is 00:31:31 and then being open about that, being like, you know, mentally, I feel like there is no coming back from this because I've just disrespected you quite a bit here. So knowing this, I just want to tell you what's happened and leave it at that. 100%.
Starting point is 00:31:46 And don't get me wrong, I think you can show some emotion. Yeah, 100%. Because I think if it was my, if it was the other way around and my friend came to me and was like, we can't come back from this story, so I'm just going to tell you,
Starting point is 00:31:55 I'm like, so are you not bothered? Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. Are you not upset about leaving this handshake? Yeah. So do ham it up a bit. Yeah. Yeah, be apologetic, which I'm sure you are. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And look, we don yeah right yeah be a big apologetic which i'm sure you are yeah yeah yeah yeah look we don't think you're a bad person all this shit happens no like
Starting point is 00:32:09 this yeah come on oh my god i was at a party on the weekend where almost everyone was in a relationship and everyone was cheating on each other that's crazy and archie and i were just stood there looking around looking at each other like oh mad drama yeah genuinely so worse shit happens but i think you need to evaluate integrity or friendship and how are you gonna balance that because you never know your friend could be like i need some time yeah but you could get back on track because at the end of the day her boyfriend cheats on her as well yeah exactly like she needs to know about that so she can like sayonara. Completely. Adios, Tom. Bye, babe.
Starting point is 00:32:47 Bye, bestie. Bye, bestie. Right, tell me yours. Mine is... So, hi, girlies. Please help. I'm very confused. So, a bit of background.
Starting point is 00:32:56 Me and a guy, let's call him Adam, have been friends for about a year and a half and nothing has ever happened between us at all. Oh, very. Last night, he confessed that he likes me while we were drunk at a bar. He started this off by asking if I'd ever thought of us, to which I told him yes,
Starting point is 00:33:12 but I wouldn't overstep since he has a girlfriend. Oh, fucking Aladdin. I swear. After this, he confessed to me saying that he really likes me a lot multiple times, not once, and listed out the things he likes about me, such as how he thinks I'm beautiful and funny, etc. I die, I die, I die.
Starting point is 00:33:30 I die. This completely caught me off guard, and I woke up the next morning to a text from him saying he had the worst anxiety and can't remember a thing from last night. I feel bad and guilty because he has a girlfriend, but I don't know whether to bring it up, especially if he said it drunk and didn't mean it,
Starting point is 00:33:47 or I wouldn't want to make things awkward. Or I'm nervous that he does remember saying it and only texted that this morning so I wouldn't bring the situation up. Okay. While I can see us dating because we're very similar, I don't see it right now, obviously. I like him, but I wouldn't want to act on it
Starting point is 00:34:02 and cause a lot of drama. I just don't really know what to think about everything that's happened do you think i should bring it up or just let him take the lead okay two things i've got to say here first thing do not feel guilty you know nothing wrong no the person who's done something wrong is adam to confess his feelings while he's got a girlfriend yeah second thing you've got the power you've got the power that was sounding toxic got a relationship in your hands you've got the power. You've got the power. That was sounding toxic. Got a relationship in your hands. You've got the power. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:27 So you'd use that. Now I'm saying, I'm saying, okay, she said at the end of this message, I don't want to act on this because I don't think it's the right time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:35 Therefore, I don't think you should bring it up. I do not, under any circumstance, think you should be like, you said this. Yeah. Because let me tell you,
Starting point is 00:34:42 shit comes out. Shit comes out. I'm going to give it a month, six weeks. Yeah. He's going to be like you said this yeah because let me tell you shit comes out shit comes out i'm gonna give it a month six weeks yeah he's gonna be like oh my god like i just can't be with this girl anymore i need to like pursue things with her yeah fine you've got the power i i don't think the fact that he's saying this to you while in a relationship i don't think therefore the issue the person who needs to sort out his feelings is him yes yeah because he's the one that while in a relationship i don't think therefore the issue the person who needs to sort out his feelings is him yes yeah because he's the one that's in a relationship while feeling while i've got feelings for someone yeah 100 you're fine you're a single woman you're chilling you're absolutely fine so whether he tries it on with you or does or doesn't that's no skin off
Starting point is 00:35:19 your nose and also it seems it seems like you don't really because you're only mentioning loyalties to him it seems like you don't really know the girlfriend that all that well yeah i think it's one of those things that it's up to them like it's their relationship you're not going to meddle and get in the way you let it do its own thing yeah because if he's say it's if he's behaving this way i don't see it as a forever thing no 100 not so i would just let it take its course yeah so would i and i think within a few weeks months i think the relationship will fizzle out and if you want to pursue it or not then you'll have an opportunity to yes 100 yeah you're fine you're chilling fabulous are you ready yeah okay so i've got one yeah i've got one i'll ping pong you yeah i hate with a passion
Starting point is 00:36:12 when people blame the alcohol for a shitty comment it was the alcohol it was the alcohol i would have never said it if it wasn't the alcohol no no no no no no no words are sober thoughts yeah i'm like i'm fine with people say but own it own it be like to be honest with me fucking me off recently yeah it shouldn't have come out in that way i shouldn't have had drinks yeah like that yeah i shouldn't but you have been yeah i just love you so much no in the shitty comment own it yeah own it say it with your chest say it yeah we are firm fans of the drunk words or sober thoughts 100 yeah you are uninhibited uninhibited completely the thoughts
Starting point is 00:36:52 that are coming out are deep in your subconscious guys 100 if anyone says anything to you drunk they mean it 100 good or bad i complete good or bad they mean it i mean it might be heightened yeah it might not be the intensity yeah but there's something there the core of it you know for example like let's think of an example someone could just be really like getting on someone's gears and they could just be like you're the most irritating person in the world now not necessarily the most irritating person in the world yeah but like throughout the week they could be like don't be jarring me yeah exactly it's come from somewhere exactly yep so mine is and i'm guilty of it myself because i say it often to people after a night out
Starting point is 00:37:38 but when people are really drunk and someone goes do you not remember? Oh! And I'm like, well, clearly not! Don't play me at my own game. Because, like, I literally, and in fairness, I feel like when I do it, it's not malicious. No, no, no. Sometimes I think people have ill intent. Yeah. Whereas it's tone.
Starting point is 00:37:56 It's, oh, my God, do you not remember? Or it's, do you not remember? Yes, yes, yes, yes. Why are you judging me? Yeah, yeah. I'm not having that. I'm not having it. No, I completely agree.
Starting point is 00:38:05 Yeah. yeah. I'm not having that. I'm not having it. No, I completely agree. Yeah. Questions. Question. I'm serious. And I'm serious. Yeah. You will take the reins. I will take the reins.
Starting point is 00:38:16 So mine is, and we've spoken about it. Yeah. But do you think drug actions are sober thoughts? 100%. I just think that, okay, okay i'm gonna go to acting terms yeah when you're in an acting class or if you're doing like a script or something people always say what's the reason for you about to speak yeah why are you just gonna speak yeah because no one just starts to speak yeah i either see katie smiling at me and i think oh she's listening okay i'm gonna
Starting point is 00:38:43 or i see Katie roll her eyes and I'm just like fucking hell like let me yeah do what I mean there's always an intention so therefore if your words are coming out strongly passionately yeah either negatively or positively there's a reason behind it and all that reason is to do with this noggin little cranium 100% little brain 100% and it could as we said earlier it might not be the exact definition but there's reasoning behind it like for example it could just be that the alcohol's made it an exaggeration rather than an actual feeling yes but the feeling has come out through those words yes i'm like 100 do you agree i do agree
Starting point is 00:39:25 massively yeah okay so my question is would you rather watch back all your embarrassing moments and rude things you did when you were drunk like the worst liverpool everything you've done in a cinema like as a showy with all your friends and all your family would you rather get anxiety to the max every single time you drink alcohol even a draw like a pipette you're like oh i think i take anxiety would you but i would would you i would not that i've been outrageous yeah when drunk but no friends and family no no no no no my family will not find that funny no no no no no no no i know no i couldn't i couldn't do that no i would take the anxiety would you i would take the hang every day every day of the week i couldn't do it okay okay what would you do the
Starting point is 00:40:35 cinema i did the cinema and i'd invite all my friends i think my family would find it quite fun i think they would be like oh kitty but i think they would find it yeah yeah funny yes and i think if i've got all my friends there who are witnesses they'd be like oh kitty but i think they would find it yeah yeah funny yes and i think if i've got all my friends there who i witnessed is that they'd be like oh fuck would you remember that yeah yeah i think it'd be quite i can't deal with anxiety i can't deal with that shit i need to move on with my life i'd rather i'd rather have it for like a day yeah and then just be like okay let's get through seven we're fine yeah yeah and i just reduce my alcohol intake for like no fucking way I can't do it. Oh, fantastic.
Starting point is 00:41:06 Right, guys. You can come to the end of the episode. Happy days. I hope you have a fantastic weekend. Weekend? Weekend? Well, I hope you have a good weekend, but week. Week.
Starting point is 00:41:16 Certainly Monday, my bitches. And take it easy. Take it easy, eh? Take it easy. Winter's coming very quickly. Wrap up warm, guys. I've already got a bit of a sore throat. Archie's feeling a bit chesty.
Starting point is 00:41:27 I'm like... I woke up, my nose was a little bit sniffly. I was like, oh, God. Well, this is the thing. I'm like, do I get my flu jab? I might get a flu jab. But then I'm like, I know it hits me like a ton of bricks. I've never got a flu jab, actually.
Starting point is 00:41:38 Have you? No, but I need to. You need to get a flu jab. I need to get through this month, and then I can just be unwell. It's fine. Yeah, fine. But now I'm like taking me to Canasia
Starting point is 00:41:46 I'm like no not yet right love you lot see you later guys bye I've got a rebel soul. I've got a rebel soul. I've got a rebel soul.

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