The Debrief - Hi Barbie!

Episode Date: August 21, 2023

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So last night we saw Oppenheimer. Yeah! 🎵 Laughter 🎵 Monday morning Barbies! Monday morning! Hi Barbie. So last night we saw Oppenheimer. Yeah. Monday morning Barbies. Monday morning. Monday morning Barbies and Kens. We went to go see... Barbie. Greta Gerwig's cinematic masterpiece.

It was a masterpiece. Barbie. Barbie. Fucking loved it. Loved it. I agree though. Yeah. And I will say there's no negativity here.

Yeah. But I was slightly underwhelmed. Slightly. Interesting. Archie said the same. Slightly. I think because it was so hyped up. I don't know what I expected, but I just didn't expect that.

I thought I would maybe do a bit more. Yeah, I get what you mean. I think for me, it was the opposite because I didn't think a lot of it. Did you ever watch the Barbie TV series? I was way too old to be watching this. Barbie Life in my Dreamhouse. Life in the Dreamhouse! That was it!

Life in the Dreamhouse! Oh my god, yeah. Did you watch that? I will say the perks of having a younger sister with a significant age gap was I got to watch all of the kids' TV. Love it. And not feel bad. Yeah. No shame. There was no guilt there. No shame. No guilt. Over enjoyment. significant age gap because I got to watch all of the kids TV love it and not feel bad like yeah

no shame there was no guilt no shame only enjoyment only enjoyment so I thought the whole thing was going to be like

life in the dream house I thought it was going to be like Barbie tatters over to her friend and like we exchange you know

dresses so I thought it was so the fact like feminism came out I was like woohoo yeah I was like this is a bit oh my god actually it's so the fact like feminism came out i was like yeah i was like this is a bit oh my god actually it's so funny so you know the last scene yeah like they're all dancing around it's like i love being a woman they're all like dancing in their pink and barbie

margo robbie's like like looking around the world she's creative yeah i was like sat there like this is so emotional and i've seen on tiktok everyone's like me at the end of barbie like all in my eyes out i was sat there with artists i'll start looking through've seen on TikTok everyone's like me at the end of Barbie like bawling my eyes out I was sat there with Arch last night looking through TikTok and someone had done that you know me at the end of Barbie bawling my eyes out and I was like oh my god look at this Arch and Arch was like why are they crying like I didn't cry and I said yeah because you're not a woman I was like you're not a woman Arch I felt quite prickly during the the long monologue about being a woman. Yes, yes. I thought she did that very well.

You've got to be this, but can't be this. Oh, yeah. And do you know what? It was easy because I felt so, like, overwhelmed and annoyed listening to it, where I'm like, oh, my God, what else? What else? And then I'm like, that's it. Yes.

That's the goal. Yes. That's what they're trying to do here. Yes, I loved that. Because I was like, oh, I thought it was brilliant. Yes, I thought that was, I thought it was really good. I thought the casting was great. Brilliant casting.

Margot is stunning. She's stunning. I love Barbie Land. I want to go. Peach, we've got to do mantras. Well, on the positive female empowerment. Oh, go on. You've got it.

My mantra. Tell me. Is, I am loved and supported. Ah, short and sweet. Short, sweet. Why did you need that this week? I feel like, I just feel like I really, really need to remind myself that sometimes. Yeah.

Because sometimes I feel like if I'm doing things and I feel like... The world is on your shoulders. The world is on my shoulders. There are people to carry that load as well. Absolutely. Absolutely. And you know, it's a time-honored phrase, but a problem shed is a problem halved. Absolutely. Sometimes literally just getting off your chest is like, half of it's gone. Half of it is gone. And thank goodness for that. Imagine a world where you couldn't. It was just all like, yeah. and my match this week is actually a famous quote one of my favorite quotes that i use a lot by nature um people know

friends family by nature people know as me as a feisty person yeah so this is something that i feel makes me more humble and more level-headed. And the quote is a good old Michelle Obama. When they go low, we go high. And I love that. Sometimes that is in life where you're hit with some conflict. You're hit with something that you're finding really hard to manage. And you're just like, do you know what?

Or fuck this. And you feel that derailing yeah or as my family call it spiraling however i think sometimes there is nothing better than feeling you you've come out of the situation on top yeah it's not about having the more um being on your high horse yeah it's about having the more high ground of being like there's no need to be nasty yeah you know to just be like look there's a level there that i didn't feel should have been so i'm going to not match that yeah i'm gonna just yeah be at peace you know as barbies and my younger barbie i was very like and i've made it back whereas i actually growing up i actually don't think that is the way to quote unquote win i think

being a nicer person being a kinder person is always gonna come out on top i feel like having the last word will always make you feel shit i've done it before i tried to have the last word or i tried to cut deep and i just it once you kind of simmer down and cool down on it, it just, you feel bad. Like, I always feel bad. It's not a good feeling. It's not necessary. No. Love you, Barbie.

Love you, Barbie. Love you, Barbie. Let's get back into the Barbie. So if you had to rate it out of 10, what would you have said? I would have said a seven. Okay, that's good. Who stood out for you? I think, oh, Margot, that hair.

Her hair. Oh my God, her hair. It makes me want extensions again. I also got blonde dysmorphia. You know how I get it every few months? Yeah, that you don't get really blonde. I got severe blonde dysmorphia watching Barbie. I was like, I'm literally a brunette.

I was like- Basically, basically brunette. I was like- Basically, basically brunette. I was like, I'm basically brunette. I was like, this is really hard for me right now. That is hard. It was. Oh my God, Katie. So obviously, you know, at the moment,

the Meg posters are up everywhere. We were sat in the bloody cinema of every single trailer that Katie came, every single trailer that was about to come up, Katie ducked, she's like. I got told- I'm like, you're right! I got told that the Meg trailer would be in the cinemas.

Oh. And I have never, like, genuinely, like... There was, like, an advert for the fucking Trolls film, and I was like, ah! I can't look! She was so scared. Honestly, I was getting really embarrassed, actually, at some point.

I would definitely recommend seeing it. I'm so glad we went... I went with you. Yeah. Like yeah like we went as a four we went with the boys as well but they they like they really liked it like they liked it because throughout i thought are they gonna enjoy it's when the musical numbers started happening that i thought are they gonna really vibe with this oh she's been singing the ken song like I'm just Ken. I found it really interesting. Yeah. It's something I never thought about literally one of the first things to say in the film is that dolls were created so girls could practice being mothers. Yes. And I was like what the fuck. I thought that gave big goosebumps. I know I was like oh my god yeah. That's so true.

What toys did you play with when you were younger? Like, did you have a Barbie? I had a Barbie. I had a Barbie that swam. What? That's why you were so good at your fucking... Butterfly! Fucking keyhole stroke. Yeah, yeah, you learned it from your Barbie.

It had, like, it was one of those that also, like, the fin turned a different colour in the water. Wow, she was a money. But it had like a little mechanic flapper and it would swim. Wow. I fucking loved it. I definitely had one because we watched the Barbie films. Oh, yeah. Oh my God, the swan.

The Pegasus. Fairy-topia. Fairy-topia. Fairy-topia. I had a biffle. I remember, I had a biffle. Did you? I had a biffle, a pink one. Sole! Did you? I had a biffle, a pink one.

So cute. So cute. I used to watch them with my sister, and I'd literally make her watch Swan Lake all the time. Yeah. Like, I loved it. My grandma actually had, but the only thing that she had,

like, for us when we'd go around on VHS, was Barbie Swan Lake. Swan Lake! So we'd always watch that, because she only had a video player. Oh my God. So we'd go watch it on VHS all the time. I fucking loved it.

It's so good. Fairytopia and Mermaidia were my favourite. Mermaidia was so good. Mermaidia was genuinely my fave. What's the one that's like, she's just like me, she's just like me. Princess and the Corvette. I loved that one. That was a good one.

I loved the island one. I loved the like the island one when they go to the island and there's like peacocks and I can't think I watched that one. I can't really remember which one that is. So obviously Barbie's like they don't have any genitals. Yeah. Like yeah and they made a reference to it in the film and i thought that was so funny but i had it gave me a vivid flashback yeah and a vivid sense of fear yeah that i was young yeah like genuinely young and i would literally rub their genitals together to see what they do but it's so mad because at that age i didn't know what sex was i didn't know what genitals could do but I'd literally open their legs and like rub them together and be like what's gonna happen? The unknown. The unknown.

But do you think Barbie should have genitals? Because I know I think they should because for ages I was really confused Like really confused. I was like, why does she not have a slit down there? And I do I feel like I was like, I literally would check Barbie I'd be like, hey girl, hey girl. I was like, if you could explain to me like why I've got nothing on down there. Like really confusing. That is quite confusing.

Do you not think they should? I think that would be a bit weird. You know, I said this recently to someone, I was like, why do toys not have genitals? And they're like, sexualizing them. But I'm like, but is it? I think it is. Because do you?

I think that would be really, because I think kids, like... But kids have genitals. Yeah, but I don't think they're like... I don't think that, that would be weird. Do you? I think that would be strange. I genuinely was confused for a long time.

I'll tell you what I used to have as well. Oh yeah. I had the full set. Slovenian families. Nah. I had... I've got big resemblance there. Are you livid?

I'm livid. I'm green-living. I had the squirrels. I had the rabbits. God, sir. I had them all. Did you have a house? Oh, I had the house, I had the car, I had the rabbits. God, sir. I had them all. Did you have a house? Oh, I had the house, I had the car, I had the holiday home.

You had them cancelled off? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was not allowed Sylvania in families. Why? I think it's because, I think my mum knows that I'm a danger to myself and I would have ruined them. Yeah. However, one thing I was feral for. Go on, tell me.

And you're going to die. Tell me. I used to collect Build-A-Bears. Why does that... What is that? Why does that... Build-A-Bears. Oh, oh.

How do you collect them? I thought you make them. Yeah, you go make them. Oh, but you'd like make different ones. I had a vast collection. Wow. How many would you have? That used to sit on top of my wardrobe.

Wow. Do you still have them? I've still got a few. Oh. I've got my first one that stares down at me. Lamy. Lamy! It was a lamp. Original. So fucking original. There were a few Hello Kitty ones that I loved. Hello Kitty, yeah. You know when you could go to shops and get like football cards? Yeah. And collect loads of football cards. Yeah. They did these with Hello Kitty cards. Oh, I didn't know that. And they were called Hello Kitty Pearl cards.

Me and Justine collected these and we bonded over these cards. Love it. Like the first day I met her, I remember I had loads of doubles. So my mum said, why don't you go in and give the girls the cards, the spare ones that you have.

To make friends. To make friends. Oh my God, that's so cute. And I went, I'll give Justine one. To make friends. Oh my god that's so cute. And I went I gave Justine one then it started. Yeah and Justine's like this is a forever friend. This is a forever friend. I had, it was this huge book. Yeah. I really actually hope my mum still has it because I treasured them and it's literally like hundreds of cards and you go to the shops and be like oh my god fingers crossed. It got to the point obviously like you'd then whittle down and there was only like one or two you needed to complete your collection i'm pretty sure we ebayed them because it was just oh my god too much rolling

the dice yeah i'm like i can't and people were obviously selling theirs and swapping that like it was such a vibe that is a vibe it was my like honestly i have such fond memories of the hello kitty pearl cards oh they were likely, they were like so cute. Oh my god how cute, little pink ones as well. And I also love the um Club Penguin, you know they sold like plush versions of the Puffles. Love the Puffles. That's why I bought the little things here. Little Puffles, yeah. Oh my god you just gave me a memory back. So I was a huge fan of the Moshi Monsters. Oh so was I! And when I say huge, like, I had them all. I had every single one.

Did you have the donut one? I had them all. Because I wanted the Moshi Monsters. I had them all. I had absolutely every single one. Anyway, the only one I didn't have was Whirly, the little helicopter. Of course. Oh, my God.

He was really rare. Really, really fucking rare. So I did my research. I went on and I was like dad how do you get Whirly I need to get Whirly this is me on a Saturday in the morning went into my mum and dad's room and was like dad

dad I found him I found him and dad was like brilliant absolutely brilliant so I'm like come downstairs I remember we had this old laptop I got on the laptop and found them on fucking eBay and people were bidding for Whirly.

And I was like, Dad, look, look. Because every time I needed you to be in finance, it's now. You can get those bids in high. You get those bids. £15 and we won.

We fucking won. I was like, Dad, I knew you could bring it in. I was like, go on. knew you could bring it in. I was like, go on. Were you buying the plush toy or were you buying... The figurine. The figurine.

I had all the figurines, Katie. I had hundreds of them. I'd line them up. I'd go into my room and they'd be like having conversations. I didn't even know you could get figurines of them. Oh, peach. I've still got them all in the garage i'll show you that oh my god i need to see yeah yeah yeah yeah that'll be a trip down memory lane i remember whirling was quite hard to get but i also remember what was that is it ogly or something the donut at the donut the donut and i remember i

played moshy monsters all the time yeah love it i planted my seed like the seeds in the garden for the moshlings to come random random fucking seeds like didn't even think about it what did it grow the three fucking rare ones who comes but my fucking donut and i was like that is up there and from that point onward the universe fat you know from that point i was was like, I respect you, I see you, I love you. Yeah. And I just loved that fucking donut. It was the,

I'm genuinely, I'm now going to go down a rabbit hole of looking at fucking moshi monsters. They are the best. And do you know what? I had this childhood friend that lived down the road who was equally obsessed with moshies.

I love her. Moshlings. We were literally like bonded over them. Anyway, I went to her house once. She had one i didn't and i was like this fucking bitch i nicked it no you're kidding i nicked it kitty did you know did you give it back never no and i really know it was bad it was bad it was bad it was bad it was

bad it was bad which one did which one was it it was the green like dinosaur one oh my god yeah literally years later like i had to say to her, you know, like, the motion monster. She's like, yeah. I was like, I'm worried she's taken that. She was like, I knew you took it! She was like, ah!

I was like, ah! At least she's not unaware. No, at least she told her. I did tell her, you know, it took quite a few years of guilt. You know, I sat there in my room, like, the motion monster, rocking in the corner.

Sat there looking at her like, I've got you now. Yeah, like, I know you. I know you. I sat there in my room the Moshi Monster rocking in the corner sat there looking at it like I've got you now yeah like I know you I know you I fucking loved them they are the best they are the best

that and Club Penguin although I found that Club Penguin you really needed a membership you did my sister loved it you could do my sister loved it

well we know that don't we yeah yeah but I think my you could do more without a membership if you are moshi monsters

yeah absolutely I used to love it because everyone every time my dad would go to Sainsbury's you know how you could get the moshi cards as well

I'd be like did you bring me back a card is there a card where's the figurines and he'd bring me back one time open it

and be like got that I was like nailed it I was like I've already got this fucking one dad I was like yeah something else I wanted to ask you so in the barbie movie yeah

i thought was so interesting pretty early on in the film like it's all happy-go-lucky yeah you know it's all rainbows fairies pink you know everything's living a vast life and then like 15 minutes are in she says something like have you ever thought about dying and everyone shits themselves yeah and it's like her biggest fear is have you ever thought about dying and it hit a nerve with me actually because that is and was my biggest fear as a child it still is now like i cannot talk about death that much because it freaks me out yeah i cannot yeah it is really scary like it really freaks me out. Yeah. I cannot. Yeah. It is really scary. Like, it really freaks me out.

I'm just like, and I will gaslight anyone by telling you I'm not going to die. No. No, genuinely, I'm not. Do you know what? It's all the vampire diaries you're watching as well. Yeah. That's what comforts me. I'm like, I won't die.

You'll be a vampire. Yeah. And I actually pity, like, when I watch films and they're like, oh, you know, death is inevitable. I'm like, yeah, but not for me. Not for me. Yeah, I'm like, not for me. I'm gonna live forever. But how about you?

Did you, was that a fear of yours when you were a child? I think, I feel like every child must have that thought of when, what happens when you die. So scary. And I think that's so hard to navigate as a parent. Yeah. Like, when your kids come to you with that. I swear if my kids came to me I'd batter them. I'd be like, No! I'd be like, don't talk to me about that!

I'd be like, I've been grappling with this my whole life! I'd be like, don't ask me! Like I can't give you any comfort. A main fear that I had as a child. Yeah. Is something that I carry with me in my adult life, which is- The dog. Shut up. The dog. I am not scared of the dog Katie's scared of the dog once I turned the lights off in the studio

and she cried I panicked I am fucking terrified of sharks even as a child that's where it all started that is where it all started. Oh. That is where it all started,

my friend, finding Nemo. God, that's a very like, mature kind of fear though. So I'm like, it's going to eat me. It is going to eat me.

And then I couldn't swim. I really, like I found swimming really like scary. But you can swim. I can swim very well. So you can imagine what that did to my future swimming career. Oh. Were you scared of the ocean

when you were little as well? Because if you're scared of sharks. I remember actually being in the ocean once and I was clearly on a sand bank. Okay. And then I stepped off it and it went a lot deeper

and I went under the water and I remember just being like, like terrified. Oh, that's awful. Another fear I had was sparklers. Oh. I was terrified. What on that? What fire night? So I actually texted. Why were you scared was sparklers. Oh! I was terrified. What on like, what fire night?

So I actually, I actually texted. Why are you scared of sparklers? I actually texted my mum to be like, is there, was there any other things I was really scared of? And she gave me two stories. Oh my God, tell me. One of them was, it was fireworks night. No. And I remember.

What fireworks night? My parents did put some fireworks in the back garden. And we're like, we'll do our own little show. And they got us the little handheld sparklers. I remember my mum said that she lit them up. My sister's like... What, both of your sisters? Your younger and older?

My younger sister wasn't born yet. So she was like, oh, this is fun. I'm like... Like screaming. I'm literally like screaming. This fucking spark on my parents trying to put it in my hand. I'm like, it's fire.

It's fire. Would you run? So I genuinely dropped it on the ground and I turned to my parents and went, you must never give children fire. You must never do that! Oh my god! They would have been like, sorry for trying to make your children uncomfortable. And they're like, well, we'll never do that again.

Never again! Honestly, that... Oh my, do you know what, actually, that is a valid fear. I was terrified. That is not rational. You would have saw this sparkler, like, popping off fire and you would have shat yourself I shat myself the other the other

chattering in the corner nail visor the other one was we went to a like bird sanctuary oh once

like you know like a like petting zoo and they had this like bird sanctuary bit that you walk into and i don't know my poor parents my poor parents you could pay a bit more and you could get some bird feed

oh i'm feeding them and then go feed them oh nice again trying to make you fucking trying to do the most you know create fond cherished memories let's give her a bird and you know what i will we will pay an extra two pounds so she can have some bird feed and really be at one with nature. The birds, I walk in and all these birds come at me. With the fucking bird feed. And I'm like, I dropped, I threw it on the ground.

I was like, ah! Wait, how old were you? I feel like I must have been eight or nine. I was shit scared. I was like, why did you do that? Oh my God. My parents were like, There we go again. There we go again.

And I bet your older sister was like, feed the bird. And I don't like birds, actually. It's the flapping. I'm like, I don't like it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember when I was in Australia, like we went to a bird sanctuary. Well, not a bird sanctuary, but we were in like a sanctuary for like kangaroos and koalas and all of that. And then there was like a bird bit that you could walk through and they'd all like, vroom, like the wings going and it's like, fuck this.

I was like, no, I don't like it either. I don't like it. I'm all right. i'm all right i'm all right i remember as a child and i had three big fears hell yeah one of my most irrational fears actually i don't know if it is irrational but i found it terrifying yeah jumanji the film with rob Williams yes I remember it was it was Christmas because every single Christmas Eve every Christmas Eve

up until recent we watched Repulio Express up until every every Christmas Eve creepy film yeah

anyway it was a few days after Christmas yeah and they were like come on let's change it up let's watch something yeah

so we found Jumanji. Let's watch Jumanji. Never seen this film. And I remember we were in my old house and it like all started. I was like, oh, this is nice. I cried for days. I made my parents like get rid of any board games we had in the house.

Oh my God, really? I was terrified that I would be sucked into this game. And I would be like, I would wake up and the staircase would be gone do you remember that scene where there's no staircase yeah and the house is abandoned I do remember terrifying being quite scary it is pretty scary it's terrifying like all these animals the house filled up with water the animals coming out of nowhere like I was terrified and I would literally go to sleep and I'd be like and I'd wake up I was like up with water. The animals coming out of nowhere. Like, I was terrified. And I would literally go to sleep and I'd be like, and I'd wake up.

Jumanji! I was like, Jumanji! I was like, oh my God, no. I was like, no, no, no, no, no. So there was, like, such a long time where I would not play a board game. Another good one. Terrified.

I'm okay with it now. Like, I genuinely think I am, apart from when it's in the dark. Yeah. But I think now I'm all with it now. Like, I genuinely think I am, apart from when it's in the dark. Yeah. But I think now I'm all right. Yeah. But as a child, I was terrified of ghosts. Like, and when I say terrified, I was obsessed.

Like, there was a long time where I couldn't sleep on my own. I would have to sleep in my parents' bedroom. I was so, so I'd watched, like, a horror film when I was younger. Oh, God. And it affected me. It affected me. Even in the daylight, I would I was younger and it affected me. It affected me. Even in the daylight, I would be like, they're around me. Oh my love, that's so scary.

I would be so scared. I'd literally be terrified. Now my dad loves ghosts. My dad loves anything like that. So he'd be like, you know, I'm just sort of ghost today. And I'd be like, no! No, you didn't. I was like, say goodbye. Say bon voyage to it.

I was like, not in my vicinity. But I've got another great one that I know you will feel the same with that every child is terrified of. The child catcher. Oh, that was creepy. Terrifying. That was creepy.

Terrifying! Yeah. Terrifying. It's nose, like that long pointy nose and it puts you in the... I was like, no! No. I was like, that is scary.

Enough of that. But they do a good job of the marketing because it did terrify me. Yeah. It was like, no. No. I was like, that is scary. Enough of that. But they do a good job of the marketing because it did terrify me. Yeah. It was like terrifying me. It is. There's so many, like, I remember my sister was terrified of Little Shop of Horrors. Oh, no way. With the dentist.

Oh, bless her. Because it was like batshit. Really? Yeah. There's just so many things that, you know, when you watch and you're like, oh, it's scary. Yeah. This is scary. Yeah, really scary.

I felt like that with the Titanic. Love the Titanic. I'm a bit really scared. Scared of water. I am a bit scared of water. Yeah, I don't really like it. Deep, deep, deep water. I'm like, fuck this shit.

So, Peach, tell me, what were you like as a child? So if you had three words to describe yourself, what were you like? Three adjectives. I would say, I would say I was quite a quiet child. Oh, were you? I would say that at home I was very, likety okay but socially I was quite quiet I was also very sensitive for a while for a while I was very much that child where everyone was like sick of them because like if um like I lost the game I'd cry oh I was that child oh my god bless you I was

always like they were like you lose I was like oh i don't want to play oh bless you it was always that one you were like i don't want to do this anymore and i was like for fuck's sake don't start her off but i would say i would say i had a big heart i was quite a caring child so you'd say quiet quiet caring sensitive and now the ripe age of 22 yeah would you still say you are those things i think less quiet i would say i wouldn't describe you as quiet no like ever i think like the only time you're quiet is when you're upset and even then it's all over your face. I mean, I can tell.

Face like a slapped ass. Face like a slapped ass if you're annoyed. And I would only say you're quieter when you first meet people. Yeah. I was about to say that's probably what I still carry traits of that. Yeah. I think that, I think I would still say I'm quite caring. Yeah.

And I would still say not to the full extent, obviously, as I was as a child, but I would say I still do have elements of sensitivity. Yeah. But I think sensitivity is a good thing. It's a way in which you connect with people in order to be sensitive to their feelings and your own and to be able to empathise with them. 100%.

What would you describe yourself as? I thought a lot about this because I've actually talked to my parents about this one before. be able to empathise with them. 100%. What do you describe yourself as? I thought a lot about this, because I've actually talked to my parents about this one before. The overriding one was how confident I was. As a child, I was unapologetically myself. I was so brave.

Yeah. Like there was no, I genuinely look back and i'm like sometimes when i think oh god how do i manage this situation i'm genuine like younger me was like fuck this shit like i was yeah i it's amazing that as a child you have no kind of sense of well maybe maybe you do but me personally i had no self-consciousness as a child yeah like um i remember going to church in a feather boa and a mini skirt and my parents were like you know we go to church every sunday and my and and i remember we were quite close with um the vicar yeah and he said hang on i, I need a, what's Kitty wearing? She says, she's expressing herself.

Oh my God, I love that. And a mini skirt on and a feather boa and a sequined pink hat that was slightly on the sides. And I genuinely didn't even think it was like a statement. I thought, oh no, this is what I enjoy wearing. I was like, I'm fucking hot shit. Yeah. And I remember looking back and just, there was never shame.

There was never any shame, self-consciousness. I was just really me. I think I was always trying to connect with people. Always. So that's definitely an overriding one. Another one is I'm a deep thinker. So I don't know whether this is like you sensitive, but always, I would always think about things a lot I wasn't kind of ah you

know whatever flippant I was never flippant so I'll give you an example that one of my friends at school her mum was really unwell and I would think about it every single day and I would you know I've always journaled and I've always written things down but I would write and write and write and I'd have to ask my mum you know for reassurance it was always I think I've always been like that yeah um and then the last one is goofy I was just always class clown oh just like you know always wanting to laugh yeah and I think in adulthood now I think this deep thinker I am still yeah but yeah but not as I think in terms of stress I'm a huge deep thinker yeah and I can spiral I can get myself

in situations yeah but I think now I'm better at controlling it. Goofy I still think I am goofy and then confident I would say yes I am still confident. Yeah I would agree. Yeah I think I am. I think you're all of those traits and what's so nice is that that stayed. Yeah yeah that is nice. That's that's completely stayed because those are attributes that you want to keep with you. Yeah. As a child, what book, TV show and film sums up your childhood? Easy.

Go on. Book. Yeah. There's a tie between Wacky Wednesday, Dr. Seuss book, Wacky Wednesday. Oh my God, I've never heard of this. Fucking loved it. Fucking loved i've never heard of that fucking loved it never heard of it it's about this man that wakes up yeah and everything's everything's weird like there's a shoe on the ceiling they're sitting like this he's walking around like what the fuck

is going on the trees are upside down the cars don't have wheels what what and he's like what's going on and they're like well it's it's Wacky Wednesday, of course. But it was one of those that you had to count all the things that were wacky. So it's like he wakes up and what else is wacky? And I'm like, this one. But it was one of those that I made, like, I made my mum read that to me literally every single fucking evening. So literally she'd open it and I'd be like, I know where the wacky things are, mum. I know.

And she's like, why am I reading it then yeah why am I doing it Katie but it got to the point where we used to do a bedtime when my little sister was younger oh

where we'd take turns reading to her and stuff and I would always do wacky Wednesday and she hid it ah she hid it from me because she was like

I'm so she goes Katie I don't want wacky Wednesday she's like I'm so sick of it I'm like she's having a she can't fucking recognise she hid it from me. Because she was like, I'm so... She goes, Katie, I don't want Wacky Wednesday. She's like, I'm so sick of it. She's having it. She's having it. She can't fucking recognise. She hid it.

That is the best book ever fucking written. She hid it because she was like, this is boring. She hid it and then lost it. She couldn't remember when she hid it. Oh. I was like, I can't believe you lost it. What did she want you to read? Horrid Henry.

That, I really like the Rainbow Fairies as well. I liked Horrid Henry. Yeah, Rainbow Fairies. Rainbow Fairies. I tell you my books 100% Harry Potter Harry Potter oh that's so now don't

you know I'm not I wasn't a genius child my mum read me the Harry Potters so even before I watched the film I had my own

film version in my head oh I love that I love that which is like the best creation to have so then when I

finally did watch the films I was like oh my god like it's all come to life when I went to, I love that, I love that. Which is like the best creation to have. So then when I finally did watch the films, I was like, oh my God, like it's all come to life. When I went to Florida, I was like, it's all come to life, you know? And there is so much in the books that's not in the films that I would encourage anyone to read,

adult or child. It's not just a child's book. It's so, it's not just a children's book. It's so good. I remember when we went to Florida, I remember finding it really strange to see like the old King's Cross, the children's book it's so good i remember um when we went to florida i remember finding it really strange to see like the old king's cross the way they built it yeah and we found it really strange um where we used to live in cambridge the way we'd get into london would be through royston which was this train station um and we were literally in florida in this queue

and they're like the next train to Royston is at this, and I'm like, oh, my God, like, this is back on. They've got, like, all the train lines. Oh, amazing. It was really weird. We were all like, oh, my God. I'm like, that's so cool. It was really funky.

The Harry Potters are just such nostalgia, aren't they? Oh, they are such nostalgia. They're so cosy as well. Yes, yes. Yeah, they're always such comfort films. Always in winter, I always feel like snuggling up with some hot chocolate and watching well. Yes, yes. Yeah, they're always such comfort films. Always in winter. I always feel like snuggling up with some hot chocolate and watching it. Oh, absolutely.

Oh, it's the best. I also loved... TV film? TV? Oh, I have one more book. Oh, tell me another book, my love. It was called Bread and Jam for Frances. And I thought this would make you laugh.

Guys, if anyone can relate to Katie saying, why he went to it as bread and jam for Francis. Please write Edgar, I'll be shocked. And it's about a badger and Francis the badger and its journey to breakfast. Wow. And genuinely, I think that's where my love of jam comes from.

Love jam. Bread and jam for Frances I fucking loved her so tell me your TV show as a child I loved Brum what are these things

you're telling me do you not do you not remember Brum no oh my god listeners I hope someone's relating to me here

I really hope someone is what is Brum what I can't believe you don't know what Brum is. Like Birmingham? Like Brummy? No, it was about a car that didn't speak.

That would have been entertaining. It was so entertaining. You know, genuinely, no one spoke. It was on CBBC and like every evening Brum would come on and he'd be in this little garage and his eyes... No, what do you require? I'm sat there like like I thought no one spoke I'm like

it's like just like Brum yes yes you're like what's the fun but it was one of those things that like Brum would go on

all these adventures and I loved it that'll noddy I read the noddy noddy I fucking love nods a bit of nods but later into my life

yeah there were so many chews from Disney Channel wise but my fave tell me Noddy! Noddy! I fucking love Noddy. Nods a bit of nods. But later into my life, there were so many chews from Disney Channel-wise, but my fave was That's So Raven. Oh, love it. That's so Raven. You know the eyes Raven does when she sees a vision? That's Katie when she makes the eyes in a club. Yeah! That is me!

Disney Channel in general is a whole umbrella of just disney channel was just my vibe i mean it was the prime for us it was the prime it was the prime lily and i my sister and i this goes on to my tv show wizards of waverly place yes please oh my god wizards of waverly place i've always been a selena gomez Gomez fan I love her I absolutely love her I remember Lily and I would like rush back from school

to see an episode when the movie came out I was like fuck this shit this is great when the movie came out Hannah Montana when they did

crossover episodes oh that was the best like Sweet Life Sweet Life and do you know what it's the Dean tunes as well the Dean tunes were so

fucking bang on it was so good so bang on. They were so good. So bang on. For me, it was Disney Channel that got me through. Actually, let's play the game that they've been doing at the moment. So basically, there's a TikTok trend going around from Maddie Jepsen. Yeah. She is so funny.

So the premise of it is you start it off going, If you know the words to the song, sing along, sing along And then I start singing and then Katie has to guess it But it's going to be theme tunes from our childhood, okay? Ready? Yep Ah! Got the best of both worlds Yes!

Yes! Okay, go on If you know the words to the song, sing along. Here I am once again. No. Okay, do it again. Look at me how quiet I am. I am once again. Here I...

Oh. I actually feel like I've done this hard because I actually didn't remember how this one started until now. Wait, a bit more. Here I am. I don't know, I don't know! Your life Oh, in the man in mine

In his nurse we lie Yeah! Okay, so tell me your film, let's go on to film My film is Mrs Doubtfire Oh, I love it! That is my favourite, like my favourite childhood film and it's my rainy day film.

I love, love Mrs Doubtfire. It is a cracking film. It is a cracking film. Oh my God, absolutely it does. Great actor, Robin Williams. Yeah, perfect. It's so funny. Oh, it's a great film.

Brilliant. My film is High School Musicals. It's got to be the High School Musicals. Yeah, it does. That is just, any time that's brought up, I'm like childhood that childhood

I love it second one's gotta be the best second one second one we have a viewing party for it's the best I love it it's so good it's amazing so this week we're doing X as well but instead of just normal X we're doing childhood X so I instead of just normal X we're doing

childhood X so I've got one yeah what have you got I've got one oh my god okay well I'll ping pong you ready go mine was me yeah and it was the fact oh my god it's so embarrassing as a child after like doing sex education and stuff. Okay. I would not let my parents or anyone around me refer to a penis and vagina as anything but that. What? So if someone would. It was so embarrassing. I literally. Oh my God.

I genuinely. People would be like. Oh, like me foof. I'm like, it's your vagina. Oh my God. genuinely people would be like oh like me foof i'm like it's your vagina oh my god i'm like use the correct term we have learned the correct terminology oh my god how old are you i'm literally like fucking hell like what i'm like who do i think i am i went through the serious phase where like like because obviously everyone has different names, but in my household,

you had, you had your fanny. Yeah, your fanny. Or your front bottom. Yeah. And I was like, say vagina.

Would you actually? Yeah, I was like. What would your mum say? She was like, Katie, call it whatever we want to. But that's not what it is.

That's not what it is. Oh my God, that is the end. That is the end! Imagine this little 11 year old going around saying actually it's called a vagina I'd be like who are you? Oh my god!

That is so funny I bet your mum was like fuck you I honestly thought I was the Yeah you did, you absolutely did Yeah I did, really's all, yeah, you did, you absolutely did. Yeah, I did. Really? Okay, mine is,

I could never, ever, ever, under any circumstance, be it, in Tig, or Tag, or Stuck in it,

it was never me, no, no, no, let me tell you, I'd be fucking running, I'd be using both, I was fucking gravel, I'd be like,

boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, something, boom, get me, boom, and I'd be like,. I'd be using both of those fucking gravel. I'd be like, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, something, get me, boom. And I'd be like, I was on timeout. I was on timeout.

Of course you were. Of course you were. I would make an excuse. I'd be like, I was on timeout. And do you know what? My friend that you met, Ruby,

wouldn't even bat me. She'd be like, Kitty's always it. I'd be like, yeah. Yeah. I was never it. Okay,

Katie, I can put money on the fine. I was never it. I was never it. They were like, who should be out? I was like, yeah. Yeah. I was never it. Okay, Katie, I can put money on the fine. I was never it. I was never it. They were like, who should be it? I was like, well, someone who needs to be it, like pull their weight. I was like, because like I'm it a lot.

I was never it. And Gasly were my friends. I was like, never it. Never it. Never it. Yeah, genuinely. And I was like, they'd go, take it. I'd be like, time out.

Did you not see I was on a time? I was on a fucking all-time. I was sprinting. Both my fucking legs were in the air. No, I got you. You didn't. I'm like, they'd go, take a bite. Time out. Did you not see I was on a tight? I was like, I'm fucking all time. I was sprinting. Both my fucking legs were in the air. They're like, got you. You didn't. I'm like, yeah. You didn't.

You're like, you touched my cardigan. You have to touch my hand. Yeah, yeah, genuinely. They'd be like, stuck. I'm like, but I'm not stuck, am I? And I'd run off. I'd be like, yeah. Free will.

Yeah, genuinely. Free will. I'm not it. But it is the air. That is the air. Oh, my God. My Apple Watch just said, loud environment. I'm not it. But it is the egg. That is the egg. Oh my God, my Apple Watch just said loud environment. I'm like, how rude.

Right, let's go on to serious questions. Well, let's go on to questions in general. I'm serious this week. Quick question. So on the theme of childhood, childhood memes, childhood toys, biggest fears, all of this. If you could go back to being a child what time in your life

would you choose to go back to oh easy I think I would go back to like being like 6, 7 or maybe 7 or 8 or 9 I fucking loved life then. Oh.

I was loving life. And it's always, and the stuff like Disney channels on the TV, summer. There weren't like electronics in that sense. Like this is before, I think the first iPhone had just come out. Like we weren't on iPads.

We weren't on anything. Yes, yes. You know, we played outside, but summers were so much fun. We'd always knock on each other's doors and go to the park and and it was just so wholesome it was that way of life though it's just knocking on doors yeah to play yeah you just go no social media like time spent with family like having just the best time yeah yeah definitely like i just it was such a like such fond memory yeah before high school

yeah yeah what about you i i would have to agree yeah like maybe eight or nine when you start to have your own personality come through but also you have like you know you're living with your parents like life is good you don't have any worries at all oh no like nothing careers financial nothing you know i would definitely go to that so much fun tell me your silly question okay on the theme of barbie yeah would you rather sit in a cinema and re-watch every single cringy thing you have ever done up until now in a room full like cinema full of people like people you know people you don't know like booked out the view there are multiple screenings they are full and they're all watching you cringe yourself out every single cringy thing you think

you've done like if you've ever like tripped and fallen but yeah thank god no one's seen it's been recorded like it's being seen even cringy things like i pull a wedgie out or something yeah yeah my god no like no that's embarrassing no i never thought so that would be impossible like and then it's oh my god that's disgusting really like really cringey, disgusting things. It might be iconic though, to be fair. Or constantly say cringe whenever someone does something embarrassing. However, the way you say it is like, cringe! And Michael, why am I doing that?

But this could be, say you're at a wedding and the bride drops her fork and you're like, Korean! Why am I doing that? Why are you doing that? Okay, I've got a few questions. I've got a few questions. Yeah, yeah, yeah. How long? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You know I think it's rare. I think it's rare. But do you think it is? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, so a few questions. With the cinema screening, how long does it screen for? Like, is this weeks of people going to watch it? Yeah, let's say so right

it's not just one screening and is it a blockbuster? like is it a film? it's long enough because it's taking up from literally the moment you were born up until now it's going to be hours right

do people know what they're going to see? Like, do they just think, oh, like, this is funny film? Or are they like, oh, it's my friend Kitty McNeil? Oh, it's my friend Kitty McNeil. They're like, we've got to go see her. Okay, okay. But you, or for example, like, even if someone's trying to do something on the sly, you know, when someone just kind of like rubs their nose a bit

or like licks their nose. Yeah. You see it and you're like, Korean! What? Oh my God, why am I doing that? Any stranger in like anywhere, like someone trips. Is it almost like I can't control it?

So say if there's even something you're doing, I'd be like, Korean! Like, would I just do it? Or would I be like, there's no need to say it right now no no I'd have to say you have to say it but it's not it's not uncontrollable in the sense but you know you have to say it I genuinely think oh god I think I'd have to take the cinema screening I think I would because I think I could play it off. Whereas the cringe thing, I see so much cringing in my life

that I would constantly be like, I might as well just be like, cringe, like for the whole day because that's how much cringing I see. And if someone's getting married and, you know, they stuff up their words or something or, you know, they trip and I'm like, cringe! Like, down the aisle, everyone's going to hate hate me so I'd rather do something funny than everyone hates what would you get me? I'd get you. What would you pick? I'd watch all my most embarrassing things yeah absolutely because I'm unickable and it's just lovable it's just fun

it's just lovable they're like classic K-Town like absolute legend I'd go up and bow at the end yeah me too did you enjoy that? I'd throw flowers. I'd hand flowers out as people walk in. Like, throw it at the end, please. Yeah, right in the space. Yeah, throw it at the end. At the end. Thank you very much. Thank you.

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