The Debrief - Killing with Kindness | The Debrief Podcast

Episode Date: June 23, 2025

Welcome back to The Debrief! This week we're clapping back with the topic of "killing with kindness".As always if you have any debriefs or dilemmas email us: [e-mail] or DM us @the.debriefpodcast Have an amazing week! Lots of love, K+K xx Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome to the D-Brave with your co-host Kitty McNeil and your co-host Katie Lee. And this is the D-Brave podcast. Yeah, it is, bitch. Welcome back. Welcome back. I hope you're all having a good week. Into the room of serenity. Yeah. Big time. Oh my god, I did a manifestation morning wake up. Now. Love that. Love that. Now, it wasn't. It was a few days ago, I believe. Now put it on. I thought fantastic. Yeah. Also nice way to start the day off without alarm going off, eyes opening. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? So I thought, okay, this is quite good. Put it on. Oh, it's closed. And they start running you through like how you should do in your breathing and all this. Now they start on the manifesting being like, I will

peace and gratitude are ever flowing through my veins. They say now you can either repeat it out loud or do it in your mind. So I thought I'm going to repeat it out loud. I don't take fools. Come on. Sarah- No, no, no. Sarah- I don't piss around. Sarah- You're going to go 110%. Sarah- If I'm doing it, I'm going to absolutely smash it. Sarah- Yeah.

Sarah- Lying down completely butt still, eyes closed and repeat. Anyway, I shit you not. The repeating goes on for at least 15 minutes at least. Oh my god. I think yeah. And I'm like, and now something that I, Katie knows, I'm not great with this my attention span. So like, I'll still be engaged in the story. Yeah, I'll need to fiddle. Yeah. Or like, you know, I'll be kind of like, I'm still really engaged. Yeah, I'm always responding. Yeah. But you know, I might be like of like, I'm still really engaged. Yeah, I'm always responding. Yeah. But you know, I might be like fiddling with something. Yeah, big time. Now, trying to concentrate on the words and then remembering this sentence, because sometimes be two sentences long. I embody

gratitude and gratefulness and empowerment through my veins to which I will always feel for every hour of this day. And I feel and I'm thinking, Oh, God, no, start again. So I thought I was losing. Oh, my God. I'm losing this game here. Oh, shit. I know. I know. I'm stressful. Did you do it though? I did. I did. I did. You're perfectly aligned. Oh, I'm perfectly aligned with my body and my soul. I've actually, I have something funny to tell you. Tell me. That I actually haven I have something funny to tell you. Tell me. That I actually haven't told you because I thought you'll find it really funny.

Oh my god, tell me. So there was a couple that got married on TikTok recently. And she said- Like a famous couple. They were like TikTok famous and they got married. And she was saying she had great wedding weather. Very lucky. Great wedding weather. Oh lucky. Great wedding weather.

Oh my god, very lucky. And they said, oh my god, how did you get that? It's been raining all week where we are. And she said she paid a witch on Etsy to cast a spell. Stop it. So I find the witch. Stop it. She's coming here.

I find the witch. Stop it. And it was like 10 quid. Oh no, stop it. Stop it. It's like clearing obstacles in your path spell. Wow. She cast it a few days ago.

Okay. And now how did you know? Does she send you like a video of her casting? No, she just said to me being like, I'm about to start your ritual. I will text you. Can you send me this woman? I will. I need to know this. I was like, and she was like, I will text you when it's done because the girl on TikTok also said like, oh, my Etsy witch, like I've been gatekeeping her but this is who she is. She asked for three wishes, right? You can do custom ones. Her wedding weather would be sunny. Her husband would be well on her honeymoon. Now they go on their honeymoon. Her husband's sick the entire way on the flight.

Literally so unwell. Lands there. He's so unwell. Flu, fever. Next day wakes up. Right as rain. Edsy Witch. Edsy Witch. Third one was that the Knicks would win. Who are the Knicks? They're a basketball team. Okay, thank you. That they would win their game and they did. Now listen.

Do you know what though? There's just something that I really, that's just- And I thought- What's the Edsy Witch's name? I literally can't, it's called like Naturalistic Emily or something. Okay, shut one Emily. She had to shut her shop because she had so many orders. I caught it, ordered my spell and she shut her shop for like three days. Divine. Divine timing.

I've actually got so many wishes that I would really like to put into Etsy Wish. So I literally was like, 10 quid, I hope she's, I think she might raise her prices, but I literally was like 10 quid, I hope she's, I think she might raise her prices, but I was literally like 10 pounds, 10 pounds for three wishes. That I would spend on a Ben and Jerry's and a couple of minstrels. So true. Do you know what?

So true. If our, let's clear those roads. Snap that. Snap that. Yes, mama. I love that. Let's clear those roads. Wait, is it 10 pounds for three wishes?

It was 10 pounds for one wish. It was one spell and it was a road opening spell. What does that mean? It just means clearing the way because then I fell down a tic toc hole of all these other people that have used this witch and they said, trust me, she'll change your life. And I was literally like, Etsy witch. No, I feel sick. So I really need this one. She texted me saying that the spell is complete and it will take up to three to four weeks

for me to see my visualizations, my manifestations and what will happen as a result of the spell. But I'm telling you this now, my dream, dream, dream show. Stop it. That I would like to be in. Yeah, yeah. Saw it today. Yeah, saw it today. Popped up on Spotlight.

Saw it today. Saw it today. And I went, that's interesting. Then what happens is I put my headphones in, whip on in a dance song, and it's called Melt My Heart To Stone, which is a direct link to a song from sex. And I was like, this is a sign, This is a sign. This is a sign. Listen, listen, listen, listen, listen. No, stop. Pearson casting if you're listening. No, stop. I'm available. I'm available and resonating. And I literally thought that's the Etsy witch giving me a confirmation that everything's gonna be okay.

Okay. So the woman who got the wedding, and. And the husband well, I'll tag you in her videos. Did she do a different one? She had just so many she's got love spells, obsession spells. She's got the only way I can get a boyfriend in life. I of me considered getting the thing called the soulmate spell where it can attract your soulmate and I thought about doing it and I thought, I'd be ragged with guilt if I actually met my soulmate. And I thought the whole reason we have is because an Etsy witch sat down and cast the spell. Niamh No, but you know what? No, you wouldn't be

ragged with guilt. You'd be honored that you were the reason why this happened. And also you think that was a two way road if I didn't get the Hexi-Witch. It's like what I say about Archie. I genuinely, genuinely think he is sizzle reincarnated. And there's no proof that anyone can give to me for that. Sizzle was my sausage dog who died. And then when he died, like a few years later, I met Archie. How can you not tell me that? And Archie's argument is, yeah, but I was still living while sizzle was alive. No proof of that for me. Sarah- No proof of that. No proof of that. But then maybe there was one day where he

woke up and everyone thought he was significantly different. Sarah- Different. Sarah- I.e. the day sizzle died. Sarah- The day sizzle died. Sarah- The day sizzle's spirit left this plane and entered Archie. This is what I'm saying. This is what I'm saying because I say to Archie all the time, like the reason why we met each other. I mean, I genuinely believe that we would have met each other because we just got weird connections that I went to the same school his parents did. Yeah, I think we would have crossed paths but I'm saying to him, there's the reason why we get on so well is because Sizzle is reincarnated in you like you knew that you were going to meet me to

find me again. Looking just looking for his owner. Hey, can't can't blame the dog. Can't push his dog down. We can't push him down. No. Looking for his owner. So with the Apsi witch and Sizzle reincarnated, never be embarrassed. If you met your soulmate, you could be like, this is because of me.

This is and I'll be like, Etsy witch. Thank you, bestie. Thanks, girl. And you've got to know that you don't have to admit it to him straight away. It can be in marriage. But then what if that happens and he thinks that's significant betrayal? Oh, he wouldn't. marriage. But then what if that happens and he thinks that's significant betrayal? Oh, he wouldn't.

Imagine if I was like, the only reason we're together is because I paid an exi witch and I think she brought me to you. Do you not think you'd feel a bit mugged off? I don't think it's mugged. I think it's passionate. I imagine he's like, who the fuck? Who the fuck did I marry? Like, what? Like, how would you feel if a guy was like, I paid my Etsy witch to find you and I met you three weeks later? See, look at you. See, I'm honored. I'm honored. I'm honored. I just got filled with like an overwhelming emotion. You got mass supplies. You did. Obviously. You mean it? you did. I really need this witch in my life. I'm gonna be like, hey, witch, please put me in a sitcom. That'd be amazing. Next, I'd love for you to help create my own sitcom that I'm writing at the moment and put that forward. Cast me as the main bad said, but that'd be fantastic. And then don't get me wrong. I'd love the Omaze house. Like, hey, hey, like, if I've got a wish spot, like, if I do, if I do is going to the Omaze house. I'd love to with the Omaze house. Like, don't get me wrong, I would love that. Honestly, like, I do think that like, our affinity with the Omaze house, like, runs very easy.

I'm like, this isn't even a sponsor guys, but we love Omaze. I still don't know. Has it been announced who won the Cotswolds house? Because I'm waiting for that knock on the door. So when I see online, they're like, we're on our way to the winners. I'm like, I work Wednesdays. I'm like, shit, shit, Jen. So maybe Katie, we actually do though, if you win the Omaze house and no one's heard. My theory is, I actually do think that they give you a heads up. I don't think they tell you what you've won. But then what I'm thinking is if you've only bet on one thing, then... Sarah- But then the way like, if there are other things you can win like a car or like a little

chair on Omaze, and now I bet on the house, the car or the chair, and they're coming to me like you've won something, I'm thinking I've won the house. Sarah- Oh, I've definitely won the house. Sarah- And they're like, you've won the chair. Yeah. And then you'll just see me real time. extremely disappointed. Like, oh, oh, oh, thank you so much. Change my life. So good. Yeah. Shall we?

Guys? Yeah, I'm sorry. Okay. So my mantra for the for this week is to do with the podcast episode. Yeah. And it is I accept myself as I am, even when I continue to evolve. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, I'm just me. I'm growing. I'm learning. I'm changing. I'm grooving. Just me. You know, and I set myself right now as the amazing woman I am. And I also accept myself when I'm an Oscar winner with a sitcom around an Omaze house. Yeah, literally.

Both women are amazing. Both women are amazing. The other woman just loves going to sleep at night. Completely. Completely. Completely. I almost just got a pool. Yeah. Tell me your mantra, I'm sorry. My mantra this week is universe, show me how good it gets. Oh, universe, show me how good it gets.

Show me how good it gets. I saw another ladybird today. So recently- You had one in your hair. I had a ladybird in my hair the other day and then the day after only enough after the Etsy which costs a spell had a ladybird in my hair and then eating loving it ladybirds are like signs of good luck and abundance. And then I saw another ladybird literally die in front of me when I was walking home yesterday and I was like, almost showed you Hey ladybug. Hey friend.

So I was like universe show me how good it gets and I feel like that's a great. Hey, ladybug. Hey, friend. So I was like, universe, show me how good it gets. And I feel like the universe is coming back to me with loads of signs. Yeah, yeah. I think that's something to say when you wake up. Deep breath. Universe, show me how good it gets. Yeah, just like that. Your face is a map of the world. It's like the start of a new era. Okay, so my song for this week is actually to do with the Romeo and Juliet play I'm in a moment, which will be played. Now it's crazy. Well, I Scott Bradley's postmodern jukebox. So I think it'd be a bit of you. I love postmodern jukebox. It's amazing. I love that shit. It's like, then I hope that you are having the time of your life. Oh, it's like, you gotta think twice. Take my own advice. And then it's like, because I think I'm crazy. Oh, it's amazing. Oh, it's like, it's just, it's head shim clack. Cigarettes in a dark jazz club. Completely. Trollby on.

I'd love to see you in a trollby. Tell me your song. My song is, Leave me alone bitch, I wanna have fun. Leave me alone. Renee Rapp. Fantastic. Renee Rapp. What a fucking legend. What a fucking legend. And this song is so great. It's like a proper Britney banger. Oh, I've got to listen to it. Leave me alone bitch. I wanna have fun. I'm a real hot girl but a real good kisser need me a little bitch

I wanna have fun. That sounds amazing. Renee I love you. And our recommendation this week has to be our Etsy witch. Now thankfully this podcast won't come out in the next 20 minutes when I will be making my Etsy witch. It's got to be the Etsy witch. Yeah. Yeah. It's got to be an Etsy witch. Can you remember her name?

I'll find the email. Okay. Shout out to you, honey. Shout out. Right. You ready to debrief? Yes. Let's debrief. Okay. This week, my lovely is on the debrief, we are discussing one of the funniest trends going viral on TikTok at the moment, which I am living for. I'm absolutely living for

this, which is the best insults that kill with kindness. Now, I started getting hooked when a girl got catcalled by like a workman. And she was like, girly at summer, okay? So not that this should be said, but she was like, I was in shorts, I was in shorts, because it was hot. And she was like, I shouldn't have to explain myself, but I was. Anyway, I get catcalled by this working man, like something like that. And she says her best insult, not, oh, nothing, that's, she turned around and she went, sorry, I don't have change. And apparently she says all the workmen pissed themselves. They started dying and he got really embarrassed and didn't say

anything else. So first and foremost, we're going to ask for the debrief listeners who have sent in the answers to the best insults that kill with kindness. Quoting Miss Selena Gomez. Kill them with kindness. Kill them. Kill them. Kill them with kindness. Oh my God, have you seen that? Justin Bieber. Know what? Oh. What's he done now? Oh, I'll show you the video. He was at a festival when scissor was performing and then he came on stage but like what everyone thinks he was on drugs like he looks completely fucking gone and

he's also you know like there are some sort of drugs like spice that make you like hot like genuinely freeze like not actually free but, they're so fucked. They just can't fucking move. And he was bent over and just like sloppy. And everyone was like, oh my god, Justin Bieber's going through it. Understandably so, but he's going through it. Him after saying that thing online about Hailey and Vogue. Wasn't having that. What did he say about Haaley and Vogue. Wasn't having that. What did he say? Oh my god. So Haley Bieber recently got the cover of Vogue. Congrats. Congrats Haley. Billion dollar deal with Elle.

Billion dollar deal. Also, as a model that is like, surely your aim. For me that's my Oscar, for you that's getting the rolling six. Okay? Yeah. She got the cover of Vogue. Justin Amoeba has taken it down since. Yeah. But posted this thing on Instagram saying, you know, I just want the photo of her, the photo of Haley on the cover of Vogue. She said, I just wanted to remind myself and Haley of a time where her and I had a huge argument. And like, after she said something, I turned around and I said, you will never get the cover of Vogue. What? Way to make that you just- Right? This is exactly what I'm saying. And he was like, I know it was a really malicious

and immature thing to say. And, but it's really good sometimes to just look back and see how much we've learned from an experience. And honey, you got Vogue. Right. Now you've shat on that I just got Vogue and thought I never would. I was thinking this was shit. What the fuck? As I get off. Okay, so one of the listeners said, hey girls, I purposely call a woman from work that I hate by the wrong name every time I see her. She corrects me every time and I honestly live for her. Her name is Jasmine. I call

her Jessica. I love the pettiness because it's not harmful. It's not bullying. It's not artful, but it's not it's not harmful. It's not no, it's not awful. But it's just is literally like, Oh, God, what was it on Love Island where she kept calling Kaz Kaz? Oh, yeah. I was like, Oh, you know what you're doing. They know they know you know what you're doing. So one of the girls said her favorite comeback is, I hope your day gets better. Oh, which I'm like, oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's very like, oh, bless you.

I hope your day gets better. Yeah. But fuck me. That's loaded. That's loaded. It's like this one. Have the day you deserve. See, yeah, have the day you deserve. See, have the day you deserve. I'd be like, in like a good way,

I'm like, what do you mean? I love it. Another one that I had was, I can see that you're passionate about this. Oh, that stings. All that stings. And it's especially the way it's said. I can see you're passionate about this. Oh, it makes me skin crawl, Deleon. It makes me skin crawl. I love this one. What an odd thing to say. Did you mean to say that out loud? There's someone in my life that when I was reading this, I was like, God, I wish I could say this to her.

Honestly? I wish you know who I'm talking about. I wish I could be like, what an odd thing to say. Did you mean to say that out loud? Oh, my God. I had another one that says, thank you for your perspective. That's lovely. That's lovely. Thank you for your perspective. lovely. Thank you for your perspective. That's really demure. That's very, very demure. Yeah, that's very, very demure. I'm obsessed with being a bit more demure. I tried it, but I just don't think I have it in me to be demure. I'm just too passionate. Just too. I'm too passionate. God forbid a girl lives out loud. You know what I mean? Honestly, God forbid a girl has a personality.

Honest. All right. Let me be demure and graceful. Yeah, I can't do that. Okay, this one's a bit... Imagine you've just kicked off at me, okay? Yeah. I hope you're okay. Life can make us so angry sometimes. Once a girl wrote this one in, I was like, now that stings because that's patronizing. That is bad.

Life can make us so angry. And you can just imagine a tap tap on the shoulder. Life can make us so angry sometimes. I can't. I'm so angry at you right now. I saw another girl sad. It's okay. Not everyone has good days. All good manners.

Oh, I'm like, that's a bit more direct. That's on the cuff. The bit where it says it's okay, not everyone has good days, full stop. That's lovely. All good manners. All good manners. Okay. The daggers scraped the back, not punctured it, just kind of scrapes. Just scrape. Yeah. Yeah.

I've got another one from a girl saying, I wish I could use this on the person you know I'm talking about. Just imagine she said one of the many things she said to me and I spin around and I go, I wonder what made you feel comfortable to say that to me? Imagine. I wonder what made you feel comfortable enough to say that to me. Oh my fucking god. That's lovely. I think. I think that's quite a good one. Because I don't think it's like, okay, out of all of them,

that's biting. I think what not thing to say, did you mean to say that out loud? That's a great one. That's quite good. What not thing to say? Did you mean to say that out loud? That's a great one. That's quite good. Have the day you deserve is a bit like a little bit. Life can make us so angry sometimes. Red card. Red card. If someone said that to someone else when I was in the room, I would laugh. I'd be like, wow. Red, no. You just got struck. I'd be like, oh, I wouldn't say that. Yeah. I wouldn't say that lying down. No, no. I'll say it. Okay, we're going to do this thing that I like to call shade or shine. Shade or shine.

We're now going into a session that we call shade or shine because we're going to read out some comments that we either rank a shady or fine, which is our shiny. Just hands. Katie and I will read them out to each other and see how I feel. The first one I've got for you Katie is, I love how you never feel pressured to follow trends? That's fucking shade. I agree. So shade. Because in my mind, that means you look shit. You know, you look shit.

Yeah, I look shit. Like you're not wearing a good outfit. You look shit. You look shit. I love you never feel pressured to follow trend. I'm like, why the drive by? That's a violation. That's shades. That's not right. So I have one that says, I once wore an outfit that I personally love, but a friend

said to me, I really admire your confidence. Okay. I'd take that as shading. Depends on which friend. Yes. Yes. One depends on the friend and two depends on the contacts. Yeah. Because, you know, like if maybe the friends got big boobs and your friend doesn't, it could be like, oh, golly, I'm out of your confidence. Like, I could never I've got nothing. I haven't got anything to feel. Yeah. You know, but if it's like, you might your confidence like, I could never I've got. Yeah, I haven't got anything to do. Yeah. You know, I said if it's like, you're wearing something quite garish, no, I might have confidence. I you look fucking shit. Yeah. It depends on that situation.

Yeah. To you've such a distinct voice. I always know when it's you. Oh, I think that's okay. I think that's actually I think that's all right. For example, if I'm in the bathroom, I know instantly. It's like a power I have. If it's my mother walking in, it's her footsteps. I always know it's her. I'm like, that's mom. I'm not I know. If I'm downstairs, I hear Lily walk downstairs, my dad walk downstairs, Archie walk downstairs. I know exactly who that they are. I'm like, you've got such a distinct thing. I know when it's here. So I don't think that's bitchy. I think that's shiny. I think that's alright.

Yeah, I think that's shiny. Yeah. I have one that says, I'm quite a big personality and a girl who I met at a drinks once said, good for you for not caring what anyone else thinks about you. I think that's fucking shady. I don't like that. I don't like that. It feels so loaded. Because also you can say that the bit that no one else thinks about you is like, because we're all chatting shit.

Yeah. You're good for you. You really don't give a shit, do you? Yeah. Whereas it was like, Oh God, I love how you shine girl. You just shine in a room. Yeah. That's different to be like, just this one's quite similar. You always do your own thing, even if no one else gets it. I can find that so rude. That's shady. That is shady. That is so shady. Because it's like, you're fucking idiot. So my, my wall is, I recently posted on Instagram, and my boyfriend texted me and said, did you mean to

post that? And she did. Okay, I would find that one, I would think it was a TikTok trend that he's doing on me. I'd be like, that is so rude. Tim, if it wasn't, then I'd be like, that is so rude. If it wasn't, then I'd be like, that is nasty behavior. That's not that's vindictive and nasty. Then I'd be like, did you think that you were in a relationship with me? Burn. Block. Yeah. Block. See ya.

Yeah. Okay, we're gonna do Dilemma. You ready? Let's do it. Yes. Give it to me. Okay, we're gonna do Dilemma. You ready? Yes, give it to me. Hey girls, I need help. So my co worker keeps complimenting she's putting little bunny ears complimenting me with stuff like Wow, you look so much younger when you don't wear makeup. And oh, this one's bad. You're surprisingly smart for someone so loud. What the fuck? It sounds like she's being nice. But girls, I think it's Betray. Like, is she just being shady or am I overreacting? Sometimes I look at the other girls in the office for a bit of backup and they just don't seem to like chime in at all. Is that because they're scared of her? Or is that because they're

scared of her? Or is it because they're just avoiding that she's a bitch too? How do I clap back without looking petty? First of all, this is bitchy. Someone said to me once, like, I think it was before, okay, context, I had lipstick on. Yeah. And concealer. Yeah. And this is the same person that I was talking about earlier. Yeah. Said to me, you don't need all that makeup. And I was like, bitch, you're wearing fucking eyeliner on. Yeah, which is not an issue. Yeah. But I'm literally wearing lipstick and concealer. Yeah. Like what is the issue here? Yeah. Like she was making it out that I was going on for me drag performance red carpet glam. Yeah. I find that rude. I think it shits on you. And you're surprisingly smart for someone so loud is so rude. That is so rude. I think you need to clap back and say

what odd thing to say. Or maybe you say, or no, I know exactly what you say. Oh. Just look at her straight in the eye. Have a deep breath. Yeah. And go, I hope you're okay. Life can make us so angry sometimes. And literally just see what she says. My god, I would die. Literally just see what she says. And if she's like, what?

Yeah. Just be like, I love, I love that. Gosh, what an odd thing to say. Gosh, what an odd thing to say. I think you need to play this off really, like she she's not going in gung ho. Yeah, boom, boom, boom. You're ugly. You're so loud. But so play it her her own game. Yeah, Gosh, what an odd thing to say. Did you need to say that out loud? That's passive. Everyone in the office will be like, oof. Yeah, I think she'll get it. She'll get it. She'll completely get it.

And also, I think everyone's being quiet because they're afraid that she'll say something next to her. Exactly. I think everyone, women can read through passive aggression. Yeah. So other women are going to get this. I think say, what do you think? Do you think she should say what an odd thing to say?

I think she should say what an odd thing to say. I think you just look at her straight in the eye, take a breath and be like, what an odd thing to say. Did she mean to say that out loud? See what she's like. Iconic. Yeah. And then she'll probably get... You're right. see what she's like. Yeah. And then she and she'll probably get why I am a vocal advocate for playing fucking stupid. You don't know. Oh, you have to know you know what's going on. But if you genuinely

play fucking stupid, they look like an idiot. Yeah, completely. Oh, did you mean to say that? Oh gosh, what an odd thing to say. Off you pop. And then why are you- Oh, I'm not beating you. I just thought it was a strange thing to say. Such a weird thing to say. And then if she- Why are you beating- Oh, I'm not- Oh gosh. Are you alright? No, no, no. Are you alright? Play fucking Tweedledee and Tweedleduff. You'll have her in the palm of your hand, girl. Yeah, I love it. In the palm of your hand, you got this. Yeah.

Have you gone to Ix? Ix! I got one. I got one. Let me pick one new. When passive aggression meets passive aggression and then they kick off. Okay. So say I'm going to you like...

Yeah. What's that ridiculous thing? Why you look so much younger when you don't wear makeup? And you go, what an odd thing to say. Did you mean to say that? And I go, why are you beefy? It's like, hang on a second. Hang on a second. It's supposed to be a cold war. Let's rewind literally like two minutes. Yeah. And we can see who was the OG bitch. Yeah. And ding ding. That would have been me. Exactly. So it pisses me off when I'm like, why are you not getting Aggie when you started this act? Because then they're like, I didn't, oh my god, no, I, I didn't, you did. Bad vibes. Yeah. Yeah. Bad vibes. Yeah. When someone makes a passive aggressive comment and then laughs awkwardly.

Oh, so when you know when they're like, you know, you're out in, right? Oh, gosh, look at that confidence. I would never wear that. Shut up. You know exactly what that means. And then you know when people around you are there and they kind of don't know what to say and they're like Yeah, oh my god. It makes my vagina like yeah, it's a one-chop. Yeah, my asshole just clenches Yeah, my vagina and also squeeze together. Oh Like it's horrible. I hate oh, it's awful. It's awful. I hate it and it also makes them look like the idiot I'm like we're all cringing now because of what you said. Yeah Gleek.

Right, you ready for questions? Yeah. Questions. I'm Celie. And I'm serious. Hit me. My serious question is, do you think that arguments can be resolved through, Do you think that arguments can be resolved through not passive aggressive comments, but non confrontational things like these interactions? Can you actually kill someone with kindness?

Or do you think you actually have to have a more serious conversation? Okay, I think it depends on a few things. I think it depends on the relationship of the individual. And I also think it depends on how deep this issue goes. Yeah. Because if it's the relationship where someone keeps jabbing at me jabbing at me jabbing me and I turn around and I go like, God, I hope you're okay. You know, some of us like life can make us sad sometimes. And she's like, I'm fucking embarrassed with that. Then there's a potential that she never does it again. And if it doesn't, then I'm like, I never need to address with

you that you were a bitch to me a few times. Because now you're not because you know I'll say something. And you're not going to address it to me because you knew you're in the wrong. So I think in that sense, yes. But if there are deeper rooted issues that it's just like passive aggression, passive aggression, passive aggression, passive aggression, never really goes anywhere, never really goes anywhere, then I don't think. But if you have like, kill them with kindness, don't see them a lot, and also don't have that much deep talk, yeah, I think it works. Yeah, it shows that I'm going to stand up for myself. And if you're willing to make me look like an idiot, I'll hit you right back. Love that. Love that.

Right. My theory question is, would you rather never be complimented by the people you know? So like friends, relationships, boyfriends, parents, siblings, industry professionals, never complimented? Yeah. Or never be critiqued by people you don't know. So when you're on stage, when you're doing things, people are like, oh, she's shit. They're all like, oh my god, she's amazing. Oh, my God. You will never get anything bad comments. Sometimes you might not get any comments at all. But those comments will never be bad. You'll never ever ever get bad comments made about you. But that's only by people you don't know.

Sarah- I'd rather get comments. Like get compliments from my friends, family. So I guess that would mean no compliments from the public. No critiques. Critiques. But yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I get you. I think that would be it. Because I'm like- Because also I don't give a shit what people who don't know me have to say.

Yeah, it's people around me that I care about. If I invited someone to see something that knew me really well and came out and they didn't say anything, I'd be like, yeah, yeah. And also, I think it's quite normal for us in the industry to want to go in that we probably will at one point have a common website. I don't really like that. Yeah. But friends and family and people who love you to be like, oh, they're ridiculous.

It was great. Yeah. Yeah. You need that. I completely agree with you. Exactly. Right. Diddley doodles. We've got to be under the episode. The day is done. The day is gone. Goodbye, my lovely. I hope you have a great Monday. A fabulous Monday. And remember to say, Universe, let's see how good it can get. Let's see. That almost almost but you know what it was Universe show me how good it gets universe. Show me how good it goes. Bye guys I've got a rebel soul I've got a rebel soul I've got a rebel soul