The Debrief - Lady Luck | The Debrief Podcast

Episode Date: December 29, 2025

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I've got a rebel soul I've got a rebel soul Welcome to the D-Ree. With your co-host, Katie McNeach. How'd your co-host, Kitty McNeil? Katie, Rebecca, Mary, Leach. Kitty, Hannah Harriet McNeil. K-R-M-L.

K-R-M-L. Crommel. Crommel. Crommel. Mines. Come. Come. Come.

Do you have a good Christmas? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Ask you no debriefers. We're organised. We're organised. We're relevant. Otherwise, I'd be at Kitty, but I'm going to manifest that I got engaged.

I have to stop doing it. I have to stop doing it, Katie, because I got my hair done today. And it really stressed me up because the woman doing my head for her best friend was broken up with because she kept asking her boyfriend to propose and I was like I had a mental crisis to like 20 minutes like oh my god is this

fucking plea about us I'm joking me that's so funny she was like she just kept going on about it so he broke up with her I was like well you're like done all that's like I would never ask it was just so intense I was like yeah yeah so intense I hate when girls do that so intense so couldn't be me me oh my god I'm scared Right, let's do it. So what's your mantra? My mantra this week is I trust that everything will be okay. Yeah.

I trust that everything will be okay. It's January, bitches. Happy New Year, okay? I trust that this year, 2026 will work in my favour. Absolutely. My mantra this week is I trust that 2026 will work in my favour. Absolutely. There we go.

Absolutely. That's my mouth this week. Yeah. Your mantra? My mantra. chair is. Sit with it. Sit with it, bitches. I'm like, you feeling stress? Sit with it. I'm like, I'm sat. I'm sat on a bus with all my emotions right next to stress, anxiety. Really? Sat in the middle. Nothing. Taking a selfie. Loving it. Having the best time.

Literally loving my life. With it. And they'll get off the bus when they want to. Okay, cool. But I'm sat on the bus. They'll get off. Okay. And sometimes like joy will come on. Joy rocks on. Yeah. Confidence rocks on. Confidence rocks on. Yeah. And we're just sat, chilling, arm round each. Love it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the best time. Inside that great film. Inside Out. I love that film. Inside Out makes me sob. It loves that film. The way it makes me cry.

It makes me sob. What's it? Bingo. What's it? Is that his name? Bing Bong. Bing. I'm like, I'm going to cry.

I'm literally going to weep. Like, I'm going to weep. I'm going to cry. I'm going to, yes. Although such a clever. Clever I do. Pixar films are always so fucking clever and they also make you weep. Oh, is it Pixar?

That's not a Disney, Disney Pixar. Yeah, yeah, yeah. How's foolishly. That was snodgy, sorry. That was really snodgy. That was wonderful for my dad. And what's your song for this week? So, my song is, you can't hurry love. Oh, you just have to wait. It's an love not come easy. But it's the Olivia Dean version. Olivia Dean's got a version. Oh, oh, sorry. It's firmly in my ear. It's so wintry to me. I love it.

Really? It's so good. So, so good. what is your song? Okay, I'm going to have a... I want a New Year's song, okay? So give me a second. I want to find something or January songs. Oh, Jan...

Oh, okay, my song is Third of Jan by Lola Young. Great tune. And because Dickheads, it is January now. Well, it's technically the 29th. Oh, you're joking. It is technically not January. We can't do that song. It's preemptive.

Okay, we can't do that song. It's let's love January. My song for this week is Old Lanzine, one of my favourites. Should old acquaintance be forgot? Because they play it infamously, final scene when Harry met Sally. Yeah, that's course. Of course you love that. Old Langeine.

A little snodge. Old Lanzine. You love it. Tell me your recommendation this week. recommendation is now although we've said we are pre-recording this i haven't actually gone to this yet but i just know i'm going to have the best time picture the scene picture the scene suarez finished i come back to it's literally become like a bit of a tradition now i'm the only one that comes back to london because i've got to fucking work so i come back to london and i'm thinking

i've got two days in the flat by myself while everyone's enjoying christmas time before i go back up And I was like, what could I do just not feel lonely? Because everyone I know will be away. So I was like, why don't I book myself something really festive? So I am going to Christmas carols at the Royal Albert Hall on the 23rd of December by myself. Oh, Katie, you're so cute. I'm literally going to go sing some Christmas carols, like, have a great time.

And it's at 3 p.m. So I'm going to finish work at 2. I'm going to go to the Christmas Carol thing at the Royal Albert Hall. and then I'm going to go home and I literally can't wait. I'm actually very proud of you. Thank you. This will be you.

I'm really proud of you. I think I'm going to love it. You'll love it. You'll love it. You'll probably cry though. Definitely because it will be really... I love the Royal Albert Hall as a venue. I think it's so beautiful.

I'm just... Shut up, shut up. Yeah. Yeah. The way I was like, stop. I thought you were born in Australia. I'm a star. I was literally like, this is so much fun.

And like, it's a proper choir that do it, but you get little sing-along booklets and you can do it. But you know what's weird? It's the only seat they had left was in a box. Are you in a box? I'm in a box, but like with six other people. Shut.

So I'm scared of families booked. Katie, you might meet your husband. And I'm going to be in the box. When the hell is my husband? Imagine your story. It's a meeting. That's so me. Christmas carols.

That is so me. At the Royal Amber Hall and there was a random in the box with them. Although if it is a family. With a fantastic soprano. Although if it is just a vanity, they're like, hello. Hi, guys. Sorry, it was the last ticket. Was it expensive then if you were in a box? It was expensive.

Can I guess? Yeah. 150? No, it was less than 150. Oh, okay. Cheap. Cheap. The free?

A hundred? It was a bit more than 100. 120. A bit less than 120. 150? A little less. 110? 110.

Okay. Do you know what that is so out of your comfort zone? So go on, Pete. was like you can't put a price on Christmas and also like I know I will really and I know that'll be a very special thing. Okay, you're into the festive spirit. Massively into the festive spirit. So I think I'm going to really enjoy it.

So that, I think that is my recommendation because also it was sold out. It's on for like five nights. It's sold out. And they're doing three performances a day. I'm at the 3pm. But guys, there's a 7pm as well. I must be exhausted. The 3pm was the last, on the Monday was the last one that had tickets.

All of them were sold out. They'd be getting paid a good amount. Fal-la-la-la-la-laring. Peach in the box. Me like, me with a family of five and me. And peach. In the box. But I've never sat in a box before.

So I literally am like, who do I think I am? Are you going to wear your fine array? Black tie. My New Year's dress. You should wear your fine array. I'll be coming from work. Maybe I should think about changing. Yeah.

Yeah. If it's more fantasy. Or maybe I'll wear me Sunday best. Sunday best on. Yeah, love it. Right. we ready? Let's debrief. So, as we said, it's happening. New Year's encroaching. And what a year it's been. What a year it has been. 2025 has certainly been an event for. So, it's been a great year. I want to

ask you quickly what has been one of your favourite moments this year in 2025. Oh my God. That's so hard to choose them all. Going to Portugal as a flat, that was really, really fun. That was a really fun. That was a really So many good memories. That was really, really fun. Getting the part in the show that I'm in. Yes. Highlight, Flatheim highlight. And many. Barley. Of course, Bali.

Of course, Bali. That looks so bad. Bali, flat trip to Portugal. Yeah. Getting this part. Nice. How about you? I want to say, flat trip has to be up there.

That was so much fun. I then doing the project, I got to work. Yes. do recently. That was really fun. And then... Where you played Scooby-Doo. Where I was Scooby-Doo.

Yeah. And the gang. Yeah. All of them. All of them. And then I really enjoyed, like, my new job. Oh, that's so good. Yeah, my, like, muggle job, bunny is.

My muggle job. I've actually feel like I'm really settled in and, like, I have, like, I've made friends. Do you know, they should do a show from celebrities is? Of muggle jobs. Of muggle jobs. Like what everyone's muggle job was. I love it. Wouldn't that be really fun to say?

Yeah, honestly. That is, I love that. Because I know James Norton was a child entertainer. That's hilarious. Yeah. I love that for him. So, I know. He was one of the most menacing man on TV in Happy Barney.

And she was a child entertainer. Daisy, what's her name? Edgar Jones. No, is it Daisy. No, Ridley. Daisy May Cooper. Daisy May Cooper. Was a cleaner.

Yeah. I'm like, come on. I love that. Yeah, that's really fun. Okay. Okay. So now to ensure we have the best 2026, I thought you would enjoy this. I researched superstitions and facts that may help enable success in 20206. So first one is classic. We know this. We've done this. Eating 12 grapes at midnight for good luck. And I actually think that worked.

I think it worked. 12 grapes under the table. It worked. Because we did that at the beginning. I think it worked. Of this year. Did you get an ass? That would have been what you wish at us. Here every day. And more. And more. Tripled in size. Yeah. Tripled.

It's huge. It's absolutely mohousive. And you had a shag. Okay. What more could she want it of 20? I actually felt like tagging you in. Have you seen the TikTok sounds like, I hope not all the slats. Oh, yeah.

And I keep seeing them being like me when I've kissed one person this year. And it's like, I hope not all the slats. That's so me. Oh, Katie. You're brilliant. So, apparently, avoid. Avoiding cleaning on New Year's Day because it's not recommended as you might sweep away your good luck.

Sorry, New Year's Day. Do not clean on New Year's Day. On the first, you don't clean. No, because it will sweep away your good luck. Oh my God, thank you, because I would have cleaned. I know. Well, the problem is, we're going to have to clean because this flat's going to be a fucking turn. I'll be back.

You'll be like, I wasn't here, but just, I'm going to fucking bed. No, I want time with the three of us. Oh, yeah. I'll be like, can we go out for a rose? Can we go do something, please? Hopefully we'll have all been paid. Yeah, fingers blow it across. So do open doors and windows to let the new year out

and leave room for good luck and fortune to go in. On what day? On New Year's Day. So you open doors and windows to let the new year out. Oh, probably the old year it means. Yeah, let the New Year in and the old year out. Do you know what my parents told me that my dad's family used to? to do. And it's weird, I don't know, like...

Bury a sausage. Not bury a sausage. But at midnight, you open up the back door. Yeah. You open up the front door. You go out, you go round the garden path, you go back and you let the new year in. Oh, I kind of like that. Oh, I kind of like that.

Yeah. I was like, that's sweet. I feel locked out, though. That would be fucking hilarious. Classic. If it's swung back, like the wind. It's like, yeah. So, I also found that in Latin, some Latin America, American countries, apparently wearing a different coloured underwear is a sign of good luck. So if you wear red underwear, it's for love and yellow is for money. Oh, get me a pair of yellow underwear now.

I'm getting stripes. Get me a pair. Yellow and red. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. For New Year.

And I'll be on stage and flash them. Give me money. Give me money. Money, money. Money, money. Money, money. Money, honey. With me yellow undies.

Give me yellow undies. Yellow is not a very forgiving colour as an undy though, if I'm honest. Not on me. A yellow undie's a bit like year-written. It is kind of like... I would say a mustard. A mustard, I think you could get away with, but it would wash me out. A mustard, yes.

Yes. Yes, maybe. So, are we ready for dilemma? Oh, I can't wait. Okay. On the edge of my seat. So... Hi, girls.

Hello. I'm in a really awkward situation. Oh, no. Love this. So, one of my really close friends, let's call her Amy. Hello, Amy. It's a great vibe on a night out. However, she can infamously take it too far.

Oh, Amy, don't ruin the night. So getting us kicked out of clubs, bars, picking fights for people, etc. Recently, it's become... There is a fine line then between being fucking fun on a night out and just being... And being fucking relentless. Loose canon. Like, when people are silly, goofy, like on the weekend, silly goofy in the club, Oh my God, so much fun.

But when you're sloppy. When you're sloppy and you then ruin it. And you did this and you're like, oh, you're ruining it for everyone. It's tense. Yeah, it is. So, funnily enough, recently, it's become less and less amusing. And to be honest, when I find out she's coming on a night out, I'm already annoyed because it just feels like us girls are babysitting her.

That's annoying. That's tough. That's tough. Oh, no. So naturally, New Year's plans start getting made and me and two other girls decided that We wanted to do drinks at a bar till midnight, stay for an hour or so, and then probably head home. We didn't want this to be a huge thing, so didn't invite Annie as we thought she'd want a big one.

Well. Oh, Amy, sorry. Well, Amy has found out about our plans and is super upset that she wasn't invited. Has now basically invited herself, and I'm just really frustrated. I know I need to have a conversation. I just don't know how to go about it without sounding like a bitch. Am I in the wrong for not inviting her, please help? No, you're not in the wrong for not inviting her

because I see you're a non-confrontational person. I get it. And in your mind, you were thinking that's easier than saying you're fucking sloppy on a night out. Yeah. Just don't invite her. Yeah. But you are in the wrong that for her,

she'll think, oh my God, the girls hate me. The girls have like organized something without me. Without just me. So. And she's unaware that it's an issue. You need to have a conversation with. Yeah, you need to chat. And the best is to friends, like I was saying to my hairdresser today,

The best is to friends can recover from criticism. Yes. Yes. If they can't, I'm sorry, but they weren't your friend. Yeah. So, but there is a way to say it. I think, I mean, what would you think? Getting all the girls together and discussing it or one-on-one?

I think what, it depends. I would say who organised it. Because if this girl was like, let's do New Year's, I want to organise it, let's not invite Annie. I think it could be very easy if the other girls are non-confrontational being like, well, Belinda was the one that organized it. We thought you would be invited. You know what I mean? Yeah, no, we can't have that.

So I think you as I'm calling you Belinda, I think Belinda, what you need to do is if you're the organiser, go to Annie and be like, listen, it is shit, I'm really sorry. It didn't intend to be this. But while we're on that, I'd love for you to come. But I just, we don't want to look after you. Yeah, I think that's such a good thing to say. I think as well, though, is this just your feeling or is it all the girl's feelings?

Because that's a good point. I imagine you've been spokesperson. So you've been like, well, I just won't invite her. Yeah. But actually it's not the best way you need to talk to her. Yeah. Because that's where you feel like it's high school and you get like, oh my God, I was the only one that wasn't invited. Yeah.

Because if you haven't discussed with this with the girls and she goes away and she's really upset and bitch was to one of the girls and she's like, what the fuck? Yeah. You almost, there's a part of me that if you have a really close friendship group, you can have the discussion altogether. Yeah. But there's another part of me, what's Amy's personality like? Is she defensive? Yeah.

Will it feel like an ambush? Will it feel like an ambush? Will she fall like an ambush? Yeah. Thinking you all hate me. Yeah. So there's a part of me that's like, I think you should do it on one and one. But I think you should also explain yourself to the girls before.

Yeah. To be like, look, I, because they might. not even know where you didn't invite her. I'm sure they do, but just be like, look, I didn't invite it. It was weak of me. Yeah, yeah. Because I did it instead of having a conversation. Yeah.

The conversation is I actually really want her there. But the reason I didn't is because I just don't want to have to look after on a night out. Yeah. I want to have fun with her because she's so much fun on a night out. But I just don't want her to get overly drunk that we have to look after. Say it to her. I think that's valid. And say it in that way.

Amy, I love you. You are literally so fucking fun on a night out. you were all making us howl. Do you remember that time you did this and then you did that and you stood up for such, oh, we all love you. I have been weak and I didn't want to have a conversation because, and that's completely my fault and I'm sorry. And I promise going forward I will hold myself to a bash standard.

The reason why I didn't was because sometimes when you have too much to drink, it feels like we then all have to look off. Actually don't say all if the girls don't feel the same. say, I feel like then I have to look after you and then it can sometimes put a dampener on the night. And do you know what? I should have just said this to you straight away, rather than not inviting you and I'm sorry.

Yeah. I think that's solvable. I think that's so solvable, but it obviously feels it's a tense conversation. It's like not a nice conversation. Yeah. Yeah. Especially if she's like, that bitch has left me out.

Yeah. And Belinda will probably, oh, no, Amy will probably be like really but her. Yeah. So actually, I think explaining it to her. Yeah. And actually, I think it will make her want to do really good because she won't want to miss out. She won't want to miss out on not being with the girls. So she'll be like, I need to be really good so I can show that I don't want to get disavited again.

Yeah, yeah, massively. X? Meeks. So, I've got. Okay. I'll ping pong you. Yeah. Ready?

Yeah. First one. Obvious. Classic. Yearly. See your fucking next year See you next year Do you think you're slick Rick

Do you think you're funny because you're not I don't know why it sends my blood pressure Through the roof But it does every year And I will always stand by the fact that that is the biggest ick for me Oh, okay well I'll just I'll speak to you tomorrow Talk to you next year

I'll talk to you tomorrow I literally can't wait to say this to you See next year See you next year See you next year I'll be sad because I'll talk to you at this while I'm Actually, it will be next year. It will be.

And we're not even together on New Year's. Can you at least, like, put a photo of me up and then talk to me about the gossip or write the gossip down? Because I do feel left out. We need, like, a week's retreat. You know, when people put, like, go to, like, places and shut their phones in a box, we need a week at that. We would do great there.

We would do. We would do great. Easy, brisy. No makeup. No makeup. Cozy. In our comfort is. Watching shit TV.

Walks. Chats. Matchers. Matches. We do great in that environment. Yes, me, I name is Brett and Jim. We would talk for so long. My mum's always like, how do you, Katie, not and stop? I'm like, we always have something to say. It's just because I live out loud.

Yeah, yeah. We live out loud. Live laugh, fun. Live laugh, chat. Yeah, yeah, yeah, completely. But literally like, catch up. Yeah. Catch up.

There'll be, I'm hoping for some New Year's beef. Oh, shit. There's going to be New Year's gossip. One that I'm not involved in, I'm hoping that big gossip. There's nothing better than gossip when you're not involved. Fingers crossed. Yay. Love it.

Javanick. My 8th this week is past me when I was single in a nightclub in Nottium. Yeah. Running to find someone to kiss. A New Year's kiss. I need to get a kiss. I need to get a kiss. I need to get 10.

No. To be that, that's an exaggeration. I have my mom lined up. Oh. I had my mind. You picked him out 30th. Oh, I. I knew who was going.

Although I found out, I think I told a story on the pod later on, I found out. So he went to Nottingham because my friend's brother went to Nottingham, he was like, it's a really good vibe there. So we were like, right, let's go clubbing there for New Year's. Yeah. Went there. It was a cesspit of men.

So barely in a girl. So we were like great. Fantastic. Found the guy. So right, I'll kiss him at midnight. That'll be great. And then followed each other on Instagram, texting a few. days. I was 18 at the time, so I went back to, well, 17, went back to school and someone

said to me, how do you know such and such? I said, oh, I met him on the weekend. He was actually my New Year's kiss. Squeaky fucking bum time. But you know what's hilarious as well is we both lied to each other? Because he was like, yeah, I'm at uni. I was like, no way, me too. Oh my God. Squeaky fucking bum time. That other situation, isn't it? I literally like, I never got the concept of New Year's Kisses until literally Archie was like, who's going to be your New Year's kiss? I simply don't know what you mean, sir. Really? I literally did not think it was a thing at all to kiss someone on New Year's. Honestly, since I had a pew, I was like, time to get me New Year's kiss. I never, I'd never heard of that. Really? Until we went out and Archie was like,

you need to kiss a man at New Year's. I was like, where's all this pressure coming from? Are you inventing this new thing? But it's been a thing. Been a thing. When I can't imagine Jane and Chris, encouraging your new year's debaught. Being like, where are you getting... Come on, Virgin. Where are you necking on at New Year's. Yeah. Oh, I love that.

Oh, you're other egg. Yeah. Ready? I think it's just so... Oh, people go, all when they go, well, that won't last. Gass. Shut up. Who do you think you are?

Shut up. Maybe it won't. Who's to say? Yeah, but also... Who's to say? Who's to say? I don't give a fuck. Little shut up.

I don't go a fuck. Shut up. Yeah, exactly. Shoot your face. Exactly. Exactly. big time. Right, questions.

Questions? You're serious. I'm serious. See, we? Yeah. My serious question to you is, tell me. Do you think New Year's resolutions matter?

Slash should be a thing. I think they should because it keeps yourself to a high standard. Yeah. Being like, I would like to do this this year and blah, blah, blah. Yeah. But I think people can be too hot, like, make them reenest. Yes. I'm never eating chocolate again. Well, that's unrealistic. Yes. So I'm not going to have chocolate for January, for the whole of January. Yeah. And then I'm going to have it once a week as a treat going forward. Love that. Lovely. That's a great New Year's resolution. That's great. You can definitely do that. Yes. You can still enjoy her Easter then. You know, Easter Sunday. But boom. But I'm never having chocolate again. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. My silly question for you is. For New Year's, what would you rather?

10, 9, 8 stops counting down. Yeah. And every 10, 9, each number, a fear of yours comes into the room. So 10, a shark. Oh. Nine, you're submerged into water. Eight carrots everywhere. Seven, there are eels around your ankles.

six there's a great white shark next year five there's a whale under the water with you oh my god oh my god four did I say five five yeah no you said four four the holes you've got your tripophobias everywhere oh my god oh my god

three um have to ride a bite underwater two you you're in a cage and the sharks are all trying to eat you it's fine is everywhere like in Harry Potter all right, scuttling and running after you.

So it lasts for 10, 9, 8, 7 seconds. Or for the countdown, 10, 9. You have to stand in the middle of the room, say, do the countdown yourself and be naked. And like, everyone's looking and you're like, 10. Fully naked. Not fully naked. But as soon as it goes, one, how happy?

As soon as happen you're here, you're just, oh, it's not like you're putting it. putting it back and it's like, snappy wrong. I'm leaning, I'm leaning more towards the nakedness. Although, so let's, is the fear thing happening in real time? What do you mean? No, it's happening.

It's not in your mind. I can't do that. I literally can't. Like 10, this room is submerged into water. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Nine, a great watch shark's running for. Like, you're not going to die. No.

But you're experiencing, like, it's actually happening. I can't do that. I would just have to stand naked I don't just be like, listen, guys. Katie gave me an ultimatum. There was an ultimatum given. And you're welcome. You're welcome.

We'd be getting a kiss at you. Yes. I just have to hope it's cold. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, it'd be cold on her. Fuck and hell. Yeah, we'd open the way. I thought, mum was like,

oh, listen to the podcast this morning about your radio. It's not working. Would you like me to teach you how to blade them out? Yes. Yes, please. Yeah. I would. Eileen.

please come on mum please get on that so you're taking the nakedness i think i think so unfortunately but it is a hard toss up 10 submerged into water no i can't i cannot you're in a cage under water i can't come face to face with a great white shot going like this let doors no no no no no no no no i just oh i just can't i can't do that i can't do that that's right guys end of the app and also end of december see you next year end of 20 25. See you next year, bitches. Love you. Bye. Bye.