The Debrief - Marry Me Nightmares | The Debrief Podcast

Episode Date: August 25, 2025

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I've got a rebel soul I've got a rebel soul Welcome to the deep breath Oh so much Sounds embarrassing for you, Ashley That's really embarrassing No With your co-host Kate McNeil

And your co-host Casey Lee And your special guest Making a re-ecurrence Yeah In about a year Would you like to introduce yourself though Yeah, my name is Archie. And I am probably the root of all of the stories that happened in this podcast.

Yeah, probably. Boyfriend of the pod. And you're actually, yeah, boyfriend of the pod. Before we get into it, okay, so I'm up to date, not fully, so don't spoiler. But I'm up to date mostly with the summer I turn pretty. The chokehold. I'm on season three, episode one. Now, sorry, listeners, if you actually haven't watched to get the spoiler.

What's just happened? How? Yeah. Has she been with Jeremiah for three years? Wait, I haven't watched this better. Well, Archie, I'm afraid if you want to be a special guest, you're just going to have to crack on. Yeah.

How is that the case? It's wild to me. And then he failed his fucking final year. Literally has to repeat the semester. Yeah. Failed his like final year. How old is Jeremiah now? I don't know.

21? Is Conrad's still in you do? Conrad's in medical school. I think he's a working man. Conrad's in therapy. Conrad's in therapy. Yeah, he's in therapy. Medical school.

Yeah, men in therapy. He's... What's the thing they can do? Yeah. Real. As soon as he came on screen, I was like, Katie will be gagging over him.

I've been team Conrad till the day I die. Yeah, she fancies him massively. Yeah, big time. I wouldn't think he was like... A bit of the peach. I, do you know what? Maybe it's just like

broody emotionally withdrawn. Yeah. Who knows? Yeah, maybe. Maybe. Just my type. But it only gets. it's better.

I can't wait. You're going to die. I just watched the newest episode. Really? Every Wednesday I wake up with a big grin on my face. Because you know it's coming. Knowing that it's another episode. Well, because we've finished Love Island, at least we've got this now.

I literally... I was like, two, three p.m. I felt a bit anxious. I was like... Why? I feel really anxious. And then I always, when the first look used to come out. And then one time I realized that I felt much better.

Oh, that is so funny. I literally said if I was watching the summer and I turned pretty when I was a teenager, I'd be writing fan fiction. Oh, that'd be my, that'd be my masturbating visual. Oh my God, wouldn't it? For sure. We've told you this, arch, us girls, we don't, mostly, most of us, prefer the story we've made in our heads than the visual.

So we'll watch something or someone will tell us something and we'll be like, God, that's hot. Then we'll replay it in our head, but change all the characters. Yeah, yeah. So Katie would be... What, if someone said something to you. Yeah, someone was like, yeah, and then he lifted up. up and pin me against the war and like we ran across the corridor so no one else would see

I'll be like I'll keep that I'll bank that I'll bank that and use it for my own yeah yeah my own pleasure look at it's felt but Katie's belly although you wouldn't ever choose Jeremiah would you oh my god Jeremiah man child no little rat little rat little rat right shall we let's crack on okay so my mantra for this week is I protect my piece peace. Okay? I protect my peace. Yeah.

Oh, I just hit myself in the eye. Oh, too much peace. Too much peace. I just feel like it's so important to just, sometimes you can go into situations and be like, what is the right thing to do? I need to do the right thing. Yeah.

In my opinion, the right thing's overrated. Okay? I think do what's best for you because what's best for you is the right thing. because what I've learned is if I do the right thing, it doesn't make me feel better. It makes me hold on to anger because I haven't addressed how I felt. So if I'm protecting my peace,

then I'll be like, this is how I feel. Don't get me wrong. I don't need to do it in a nasty way or I don't need to be a bitch. No bitchiness is fine. But like, you know, sometimes we're like, it's just best you hold your tongue. No, not for me.

You don't like holding your tongue. No. This is where we're like the polar opposite. Katie's tongue is clenched. where I'm literally like tongue-tied. Because the dentist is... I... Good one.

Good one. I literally... But like, I will not say a thing. In fact, I'll double down the other way and be like... Oh my God, I love you. You've never bothered me at all in my life. Actually, I'm quite jealous of you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And we'd love to have everything you own. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Whereas you will speak your mind very freely. Yes, I will. Yes. But that's when we're a good balance. With a ying to the yang to the yang. Exactly.

Tell me a mantra for this week, Beachy. My man. is I choose to notice the positive more. Oh, I love that one. I choose to notice the positive more. I know. And do you know what? I don't mean to sound like a wanker,

but I literally been listening to morning meditations as I walk to the station. How lovely. I get up really early for work. And it's the sun's rising. Oh, how gorgeous. All the roads are so quiet. And it's literally like, oh my God, there are so many beautiful things in life. So gorgeous.

I've had so many gorgeous conversations with me. people. Oh, that's so nice. No, mostly just clients. But then I got to know one of, there's like someone who comes in every week for a physio session and I never really chat to him. And then I got chatting to him for like 20 minutes.

Oh, my God, that's so, oh, oh, oh. Pensioner. Oh, money. Oh, my God, pared. I know. It reminds me, so Arch and I recently went to Portugal with Arch's mom and dad for a few days and his family. And his mom was like,

oh, his mom said to me, something like do you guys is there ever anything like wrong with you guys because you guys are just like you just always seem like you're just so and I said of course like relationships are normal like that and I said but I think the biggest thing is actually I just choose the positive yeah like you know we actually you were quite negative when I first met you but now you're quite well you actually you're very like I think I'm in your ground no you are you don't you drag me down from the if I somebody's upset to me I won't focus on that yeah What do you mean?

Look, if there's something negative, I won't be like, focus on it. I'll just try me that, okay. But you can pull me back if I'm away with the fairies. Yeah. But I was saying that, like, this is what I said to Audrey's mom. I was like, we just choose the positive. Yeah. You know, we're like, let's wake up and just have a great day.

Do you know what I mean? I've got to accentuate the positive. Oh, my God. Wow. It's a song, isn't it? Yeah, it is. Yeah. Okay.

And going into songs, a nice segue way. Yeah, well done. song is When a man loves a woman No, I don't know the rest of that Is it a merry-go-ray Do you know the one I mean?

Yeah. When a man loves a woman Something. Yeah. Beautiful. I love that song. No, I think I'm not the proper tune wrong.

But have you got your phone on you? No. Oh, useless. Useless. Lovely, gorgeous song. And because we're talking about engagements this week. Spoiler.

Oh. Yeah. I thought when a man loves a woman would be a great first dance. That's love me. Or a great song. Like if Archie turned to me when this song came on and was like,

this is our song. I'd be like, yeah. Fanny Flutters. Oh. Yeah. What's your song for this week? My song is,

She's electric. She's got a bullet and eccentric. Some is somebody bent here. And she needs. needs more time. Don't know this one.

She's electric. Oasis. Oh. No. Since the tour of Oasis has started, I didn't really listen to Oasis growing up. Like, I just know Wonderwall and don't look back in anger.

It's so northern. Literally like, just so northern. So I then, since they've like come back out and like, what's all the fuss about? Yeah. A documentary on Oasis. And I was like, oh. And I've gone down a deep,

A real deep dive of their albums. It's like Ozzy Osbourne. You went a deep dive with him. I did. I had to know more about his life. Yeah. But I honestly love his music. Yeah.

Oh my God, actually do it. It doesn't grow. Hello, darling. Picture this on like 6 a.m. in the morning. But I say, open up at bed hair, gets it ready for work. She's just, hello, darling. My Ozzy? Like, have I woken up?

I'm such a good impression. But although I never even, that's, what I just say daily anyway or like my darling and then Arch was like you sound like Sharon and now I just really go into it. Oh it's so good again. Hello darling.

Yeah. It's so good. Right so are you ready for wreckers? Yep. Our record recommendation. Love some lovely Arch this week is in honour of our friends just getting married. Yeah.

They got married at full place. in West Sussex. West Sussex. Lovely. Oh, so it was where Emma was filmed. So the house is sensational. It's so beautiful. Yeah.

The barn, like, we went inside this old barn where we had like... Oh, that was it, yeah. Gorgeous. The coach house. It was beautiful. That's where we had like dinner and the dance and all that kind of stuff. The church is on the, on the grounds, which is beautiful. There was like a string quartet.

It's gorgeous. It was absolutely gorgeous. That's so nice. So guys, if you need inspo. for weddings, then there you go. But right, so our episode for this week. Are you ready? I'm ready.

Let's see Bruce. So, we're in the season of engagements. Yeah. And we're diving into, before, sorry, we're not, before we even get into it, Sophia Tux for getting engaged. Oh, that was so lovely. Now, guys, I know we've been a bit of late on saying this on the pod,

but congratulations. Congratulations, Sophia. I love you. Fear. What a rock. What a rock. I listened to the podcast where she talks purely only about the engagement. And I would suggest anyone to pop on over and listen to that because it is so sweet. He nails it. Absolutely nails every single part of it. He wrote her a letter afterwards. Like he planned all the family to come out. I'd cry. It was sensational. Where weren't they? Italy, I believe. Italy or Spade. Someone like that, but it's hot. And she had no idea. Because they've been. been together, no hints, but four years. Oh, interesting.

Yeah, no hints at all. I was thinking, hmm, and she was saying how she thinks it's the perfect time, and I was like, that's really interesting. It's a really interesting piece of information. And she was like, because I feel like any longer I'm waiting around, and I was like, yeah, yeah. I was like, I got you. Yeah, big time.

So, although... This statement out, it's going to happen. I will not say any more than that when. Good. This year. No, Peach. Because we've said, we've said, we don't want to be engaged and come back to you and our housemate, eating cereal on the sofa.

I love it. I mean, imagine. That is quite a come down, isn't it? It's not a come down, I'd be bad. We love you and we like to come visit you. I come to gay and be like, I can't believe we're engaged. What do you mean? What do you mean, though, that, like, surely I'd be around straight afterwards?

Absolutely. Actually, don't tell me anything. I don't want anything. our plan that us to be like rent to our own place for like for a bit and then it will happen so we've got a year of this contract. Okay darling he's trying out the listeners on side anyways so it's such an exciting part of anyone's life. I would say it's one of the top five yeah I'd say like engaged married probably pregnant yeah having a baby all of that but it's it's up there okay so we're going to go ahead and give a heads up to any guy out there about the absolute

We don'ts about engagements, okay? Now, we've asked our listeners to write in and tell us warnings to their partners. And if they want to, we will also do shout-outs to their partners if it's a direct warning of a no-no. No, a no-no. Now, before we even get into it, is there a no-no for you? Because there's so many no-noes for me. I, a no-no for me if I was getting proposed to. Absolutely, Paige.

A yes-yes is having me there. In the corner. It would be kit proposing. Oh, I'd love that. I think just not in public. Yeah, you're so private. Whereas I want everyone watching. Do not.

No, no, no, go on. Do not make me say yes in public like that. I would be overthinking the way I'd say yes. Oh, did you hear that Sophia talks as boyfriend when she left the room? He kissed out the camera because he knew she'd want to post her. And he practiced going down on his knee so it looks good in the shot for her. Oh, my God. So, cute.

So you wouldn't want people that. You want it really private. Yeah. Anything else? Just not like, but not in a hotel room. I did think that was very good, if I'm honest. Like, yes, they were on the balcony. I'm thinking like premiere in.

I'm thinking like, don't do it. Like, if we're in a premiere, we've had a lovely dinner out, we've had a premiere in and we get back. And he's like, marry me. No. No. No. No, I won't, actually. No.

Go on. Aren't you? Aren't you saying something if you're like? No, I don't like the ones where people do it like, they've had a good day and like on the cuff, marry me. It's like, no. Like that has to be thought through. Absolutely, I agree. A few tips that Sophia Toxford's Brian said.

First thing, plan what you're going to say. Yeah. He says because you get overwhelmed in the emotion, plan what you're going to say. The other thing is he said, because they were on. holiday. He said, don't leave it to the last day, because you've had a whole holiday of a possible argument because he's been iffy. And she's like, why are you iffy? I'm so see that happening to us. I'm like, I've got a stick up at your eyes. He's like, marry me. I'm like, yay. But yay. And he's like, don't leave it because then you've wasted your nice holiday when you could be

celebrating. Right. Okay. So, first one I've got here. And I so agree. If he proposes at someone else is wedding. I'm saying no and ordering his art. That's not it. This is from Emily whose boyfriend is Liam and is a grooms man in four weddings this year. She says, Liam keeps making too many hints and she's sweating. I'd be

sick. If I was at Archie's friend's wedding that we went to recently and he proposed. And I'd be disgusted. How could you take this away from them? It's past stealing thunder. I've never gotten behind that. It's absolutely revolter.

You've seen those TikToks where, like, brides help organize it happen for their friend. Yeah, I have seen that. The fianc, whatever, the proposite, and stuff like that. I've seen that it's mad. But that happened to your friend. They did that, didn't they? Friends wedding. No, as in the bride helps someone else propose at her wedding.

Oh, my God. Sorry, I got confused. I thought they were talking about the proposals. No, no, no, no, no. I would die. Imagine you guys are getting married and my boyfriend comes to you being like. I'd like to propose to Katie at your wedding. I really hope your boyfriend asks our permission.

Like, I actually hope he comes to us. It's like, I take your daughter's hat. But you can't want to hear, you want to be better at lying to me, though, than I would to you. I think I could, yeah. I think you'd be pretty game face. Yeah. Like, when I lied to you about the celebratory, that's really hard with a picnic. And I was like, Casey, we've got it. And I was milking never pretending, yeah.

Yeah. I reckon I could milk that. I just don't trust my son. No, no. You'd be like, you would be like a Cheshire cat. I'd hang you in your mouth. You'd be so happy. Have a great show.

I'd be thrilled with yourself. Right. The next one is, if, and this, again, I agree. If my nails are any other colour than French manicure from every girl ever made, I completely agree. Now, I, what, are you a light pinker? I'm pretty neutral on this. I think, if you had green nails. I genuinely think, unless I had, like, rainbow leopard print nails on.

I could see that for you. I wouldn't. Thank God. Imagine the new Wicked comes out and you've got Elphabat and Glinda Nails. Yeah. Although she'd love that. That's so good.

Yeah. She would be thrilled. I'll defy it. I'll defy gravity with you any day. So you're not fully with that. In an ideal situation, I'd have nails on, but also like, I, the thing I'm... You don't have lots, so, do you? So it wouldn't bother you.

One thing I had a conversation with actually two days ago with someone, my broken fingers on my engagement finger. Which one is it? The pinkie. How could you forget? The pink, the crooked, the crooked pinky. So your hand will be like. It will be.

It doesn't. The broomstick, well. Like, it literally, it will look so wonky in the photos. Did you just like maybe put an elastic band just for the photo? Just to grip it in and, like, photo shop it out. What colour is? is French? Is it like, to be French? It wouldn't have to be French

for me. I would just love a like, I wouldn't have a pretty nail colour. Yeah, this pink's way too much, like a natural, beautiful one. Right, the next one is, if he proposes in a group chat, meme format, I'll change my number. This one's from Gemma, who claims her boyfriend once sent a birthday e-card via PowerPoint. I'm not having that.

A e-card via PowerPoint. I'm not having that. What does that even mean? Like he's made a PowerPoint page. I just shared it with her. I'd be liversed. Oh, no, is that pretty cute? No, just like a happy birthday on a PowerPoint. Oh, no.

Oh, I saw a E-Men voucher. Oh, no. Because if I received an e-voucher, I wouldn't be necessarily... What's an E-voucher? Katie, up the stage. When someone says you're an Amazon voucher on email. Like, via email. I feel something like you get annoyed if we did that to you.

I don't know. She's grateful. She's happy with a bag of minutes. If you print it off and put it in a card at least. Yeah. If your boyfriend asked you to marry him over taxed. Oh, no. Absolutely not.

No, I completely agree. Next one, this is really good. This is so you. I'm single. But if a man ever proposed to me at a sports game on the big screen, I would fake a seizure to get out of it. Honestly, same girl. I saw this girl actually the other day, which was so me-co-ded.

She was like, clearly had a few drinks. Yeah. And she was at a sports game with her boyfriend. And they came on the kiss cam. And the boyfriend was like And she was like I'm like kissing him

And then she's like Like proper showing off like to working And then he's like She's like Oh She's like And then it says

Will you marry him And she starts screaming Oh And jumping up And she's like And he's like You fucking were like Ruining it

You like put it in point five No it was for her It was for her It was for her And then she started crying And I was like Oh it's so good And this one is for Harry, who listens to the podcast from Rebecca,

who worries her boyfriend is such a joker and she needs to make this clear. But if there's a flash mob, I'll pretend I don't know you and report him to security. Flashmob is crazy. Why is that something what she would do? It's giving... It's actually going to be a plan. It's giving Will Schuster and Glee. Yeah, it is.

Like, if Archie did a flashmobot, also it's so impersonal. Like, it's not, it's not like, it's not romantic at all. No, it's like... It's a spectacle. And also, it makes it all about them. Yeah. None of that's about me. No.

It's about the choreography. It's about you. Well, last one. Just to be clear, I'm 28. Never had a boyfriend and single as far. But just in case my future husband hears this, not in the morning, not before coffee, not before lashes. Real.

Put my lashes on. I want to look like I'm getting married, not being arrested. You know what? Fair fuck, girl. Fair enough. I completely, I back that. You've got to wait. You can't propose first thing in the morning. No, that would be, it'd be ridiculous.

Imagine coming back from a run and being sweaty. Marry me. Are you joking? My bed hair. Your bed hair is crazy. But I actually think the man that falls in love with you will love your bed hair. My head is so cute. It's actually really cute. It would be like, imagine, Archie fucking blinking at you.

I'm giving bed hair right now, but we're going to tackle with her. Now, Art, would you like to read our dilemma? Yeah. Right, you ready? Diabrived dilemmas. Okay, Archie, if you like to read the subject and then you can read it out. Do I write, read subjects out? Yes, that's usually hot.

Subject. No, you don't have to save the word subject. You just say the line. He asked my dad for my hand, the lips is. Except it wasn't my dad. Oh. Hi, debrief. Please help because I think mine.

might be built on a lie. So a few months ago, my boyfriend proposed. Lovely ring, lovely speech, I cried, he cried, it was beautiful. But here's the problem. He did the whole traditional thing of asking my dad for permission before

proposing, except it wasn't my dad. It was my uncle. My dad has an identical twin. My boyfriend had never met either my parent before because they live in Canada and only just flew in for my cousin's wedding. We all thought it'd be cute.

I need to hiccup. Oh, brief, yes. You came to meet everyone at the reception. Not ideal conditions, but fine. He was nervous. He was a few Prosecco's in. And apparently, during the reception, he pulled what he thought was my dad aside.

And someone else was wedding again, though. And gave... If he's asking permission, he's not actually saying, can I... I'm going to propose now. Or maybe it does. Yeah. And gave a whole heartfelt speech about loving me, and wanted to propose, and apparently my uncle, bless him, just went along with it.

Probably assumed my boyfriend was drunk and didn't want to her in the moment. Oh, jeez. So my boyfriend thought he had my dad's blessing. I now have a fiancé who thinks he's charmed my dad when he actually proposed after getting emotional consent from the wrong Canadian twin. No. And my actual dad is just chilling in Ontario. Ontario.

Ontario. What's that in Canada? Canada. Canada. there. That was Australian. Completely unaware that I'm engaged. It's been two weeks. Do we tell my real dad, do we let him find out on Instagram like the rest of my extended

family? Is this legally binding? And we technically engaged with my uncle's approval. Help. Unofficially blessed brides. Okay. So, well, I think it all comes down to your dad's relationship. Sure.

Because first of all, big no-no, do you not let him find out on social media. That's sure. You need it to be personal beforehand, even if it's just. to FaceTime. There is a world in which this will be a great story at that day. Yeah.

This is quite cute. I think it's like a funny speech. Yeah, I don't think it's that deep. I think it's quite a sweet story. Yeah, I think you're worried because it's a high stakes thing. Like getting engaged is quite a high stakes thing and you want everything to be perfect,

but like literally just tell your dad. Yeah. Do you think what, like have a conversation to sit down combo? Yeah, I don't think this is probably the first time he's been mistaken for his brother. And also, if you know, because you think your dad won't like it?

Yeah. I also, no, I wonder if there's tension between the dad and the brother or something. Maybe. Being like... Some right time pretty. Yeah. Being like, I can't believe, like, okay, yeah, we look similar.

But that moment I never got with my only daughter. I mean, I don't know if she was it. Maybe. You don't know the relationship of the dad. Like, if it was my dad, my dad would be like, that's a great story. Yeah, yeah. But... Enjoy it.

Toad. It's a nice surprise. Yeah. Yeah. I would... I would tell him first and then tell the story. Yeah. Rather than being like, oh, my God, this happened.

Because it's like, then makes it bad news. Yeah, yeah. Or it makes you almost like apologising for it. So it'd be like, this happened. How exciting. And then, yeah. But I actually think it'll be fine. Or do you also think maybe get the fiancé to do it?

What to tell the other? To say, I've proposed. No. Because if you're wanting that shared moment between your fiancé and your dad. Oh. I don't. I don't know, actually. I wouldn't, what I wouldn't do is lie in the sense of don't get your boyfriend to now ask you when, you ask the dad, when it's already happened.

Yeah. You've already done the uncle by accident. Yeah. That's, I wonder how they found out the uncle. And I also, yeah, I also do think maybe I'm like politically correct, but like, I also think it's quite an outdated thing to ask for permission. I don't think it's like a necessary, like, it's not prerequisite now. No, it's not. So, although it's, I think it's a chivalrous thing to do.

Yeah. But for me, personally, I've never seen that as a deal breaker. Really? So unless that family does. And you don't think your dad would be more good. It's more just for to appease the dad. And then it's like, why is it the dad got anything to do with it? It's because it's old-fashioned, isn't it? Yeah.

It used to give away your daughter. Yeah. So it's actually outdated and I'm an ally. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Good luck. I actually think you're okay. I think it all be fine. Yeah. You just have to tell them and then be like, tee. Yeah.

You'll never believe. Yeah. Try and make it more of like a lighthearted thing. Because this is good news. Don't let that might be ruined. Right, should we go on to... Ix. Okay, so I've got one. You scared me all your ex.

I've got... I've got two. Okay, I'll ping pong either. Yeah. You're ready? Well, my first one was being proposed to in public. That would send shivers down my spine.

Is it that bad for you? Genuinely, I saw someone get engaged. And it's weird. I love love. Yeah, you do. I literally love. I think it's so beautiful. Yeah.

However, I was in Disneyland once and saw something get proposed to in Disneyland. And I was like, get up. This is a family theme park. What are you doing? What are you doing? I'm like, oh, God. So when you say public, though, is that any public? Like, how about on a beach?

Oh, how about? Maybe if we were at a private part of the beach, you know how sometimes they do private dinners on the beach? Yeah. Perfect. Okay. If what, if I'm in fucking Magaloo. on the beach

fighting for a sun lounger and he's on one knee I'm like yeah so it just all depends about the yeah the ambiance and the vibe it feels very pressured where people are around

and I also don't want the whole like whoop and cheer like I'm like enough you weren't meant to see that you would be so red I'm like mind your business no that's the thing I'd probably be crying

Patrick Star Red absolutely I'm not having you look like blushing no Oh, God, I love it. Right. Okay, yeah. I hate when men, specifically men, maybe women say it too,

but when they go, I'm getting locked down, boys. Locked down. Oh, I'm like, sir, that sounds like prison. What do you mean? I'm getting locked down. I think it's grim. I'm like, you should be thrilled for your life. You should be like, I'm being set free.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You should be like, I've been let out. I've always, I hate this. I hate this notion so much. And men do this all the time. and I always hated the phrase, like, oh, she's my missus. Or when they're like, oh, she won't let me. I'm like, don't you fucking, oh, she used to blame me with the hockey.

I didn't blame you. We didn't want to go to events. I didn't stay with my missus. Yeah, I wouldn't blame you. I just say I want to stay with it. Yeah. You could propose to me. Okay.

Right, you ready? Yeah. On a similar vein. Yeah. I don't like it if someone's like, hey, wifie. oh really if if if you know what though I think you're going to eat your fucking words yeah 100% I think when you're in a relationship yeah yeah I think when you're in a relationship I think when you're in a relationship I think you're gonna be so fucking sobbing wifey I mean I actually gonna grind you down when I met you four years ago you wouldn't even touch now you're not for a couple yeah I'm literally gonna make you like hi puppy I'm literally I

I can't. I honestly, I can't with that. Oh, why? Thee, shut up. It means my skin, you do a hubby. I do, I do. Lisa, how's that fair? No, but the thing is, though, that's all a joke. I wasn't actually, no, but like,

why's that a joke? As in. No, if you were calling hubby. No, for example, the person I was referring to as hubby that I fancied wasn't ever directly to him. You weren't married to him. No, it was always like, that's where the joke comes from. That's the joke.

That's the joke. He was always in a group where I'd be like, oh, there's my hubby. But I never went up to him like, hey, hubby, that's weird. No, but I think once you're married, it's not as weird. Well, obviously not once you're, like, wed. Yeah, so the point is you say it once you're wed. But like, lifey. Wifee.

Right, questions? Yeah. Questions? You are deadly serious. And I, yeah. Yeah. You are. If you want to be a bloody serious.

You are Philly. Okay, go on, girls. So my serious question is, is do you think marriage will ever die out, like the thought of weddings? No, I actually don't. I think it could get less because even the generation below us, which are Gen Z or we Gen Z?

Gen X. So what's Gen X? Gen X are so like monogamy is so outdated. all of that. Personally, I'm like, I could not be, I could not live a polyamorous. Polyamorous life, I could. But I think it could, I don't think it could die out. I don't think it will ever like fully stop. Yeah. But I don't think it will be as popular as it once was. I don't think, I think we'll get to a stage at humanity where it's like, it won't be the first question you're asked. Yeah, yeah. And it won't be maybe the normal.

Like back in the day, obviously it was the norm for a certain sexuality. Now there are so many different sexualities being explored. And as they bloody should. Yeah. You know, so I think they'll come to a point where people won't expect that you're married. Yes. Yeah. They'll have to wait to be told.

I also feel like it will go, like, all right to think people marry, like, computers. Oh, that's got the shit out of there. Like AI, they'll marry Chat-G-T-T. I know a lot of people who'd marry Chat-G-T-PT. Yeah. That was actually this dilemma on the girls' bathroom where this guy had made up a girlfriend on this AI thing, like, to the point

where it wasn't like, it didn't look like a sim. It was a full girl that sent voice notes. It's like a whole naked woman. He put in like, in the algorithm, his ideal woman, she had been talking to her for years. Oh, God. Oh, it's so bad. And he was like, I'm fully in love with that. I think

I think, yeah. I was in session. That's so weird. Right. So my silly question. This is going to be right. If your partner proposed an escape room. and you couldn't solve the puzzle to get the ring oh would you still marry them

or call it fades without the ring but yeah let's say he's like if you find the ring women's bay oh see I believe in shit like that I really do what do mean

she does she actually does if I can't find it I'd be like what's fuck you would I'm like you wouldn't you wouldn't keep going you would take it

as a hit you'd be like that's that you'd us. And then if you broke up like 10 years later, you'd be like, it's because of the escape room. It's because the escape room, isn't it? And I couldn't find it. Yeah. That would, that's just cruel. But then I would think you don't know

me at all. You put me in an escape room. Yeah, true. Someone who needs 25% extra time in exams. And how do you put them? And you're in an escape room. Yeah, that is cruel. I've never I've never solved one myself. I've done two escape rooms in my life and I was not part, any part

of the victory. I've never done one. Oh, my God. I'd love to do one as a flat. That would actually be fun. No, I'd love to do one. I get, if you think I'm bad now, oh my gosh. I'm with your dad, remember. Yeah, I think you were not all the housemate would do it. Shock.

He'd be drunk with the other housemate. He wouldn't want to get involved. So then you would solve it. Yeah. I'd like have you as like my like two I see and like we'd be going around and they're kidding our housemate would just be sat in the middle, taking the best. Yeah. Orch and I've been really project managing recently.

Ola ha! Recently. Ola ha! Yeah. You guys. Big time. We've got, to the point we've got a shared notes for our holiday. And so please you get that from each other because I can't give that to either of you.

We've timestamped the activities. We're having scheduled fun. But I don't think it would be as fun if we were doing it just for ourselves. I think we like doing it for someone else. Yeah. And weirdly like. Well, I do appreciate it. I do like having a plan but just not making the plan.

Yeah. So thanks guys. Right. We got to the end of the pod. We love you. Oh, boring you, Elie. Yeah. How lovely.

So we've got to the end in the pod. We love you lots and have a great week. Have a great week, guys. And remember guys if you get engaged. Let us. Please send us the ring. Please. Please.

Right, we love you. Bye. Bye. Thank you.