The Debrief - New Year New Me?….| The Debrief Podcast

Episode Date: December 1, 2025

Welcome back to The Debrief! This week were are slowing down and reflecting on the past year, what we’ll keep and what we’ll leave behind…. As always DM us @the.debriefpodcast or email us: hello...@thedebriefpocast.co.uk with any debriefs or dilemmas 🫶🏻 Happy December! Lots of love,K+K xx Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I've got a rebel soul I've got a rebel soul Welcome to the bee brief With your co-hats, kiss me now And you go to go out It's the tidy league Yeah No, we've got a bit to get through today
Starting point is 00:00:21 So we're not going to do any fafing No fafing We're going to get straight to it Okay So that used to be the Me say there's no fuffing and now I'm going off centre. And it's like when you go into a lesson
Starting point is 00:00:32 and the teacher would already be uptight, there's so much you do today. And now I'd be like, I'm so stressed because you're telling me there's so much you do. Whereas if I came into class and someone was like, there's literally nothing to do today, but there was loads of work. I'd be like, oh, I'll get all this done.
Starting point is 00:00:46 Oh yeah. If everyone's like, there's loads to do, then I probably, I'll get so stressed. Yeah, I don't want to do it. Yeah. Completely. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:00:53 So my mantra for this week. Yeah. I trust that everything is working in my favour. Oh. I trust the universe working in my favour. Big time. I trust that God's working in my favour. He's like, you go, girl.
Starting point is 00:01:05 You got a girl. You got a girl. I trust that the creative gods are in my favour. Yeah. I trust it all. Trust it. You got to trust everywhere. I trust it all. I trust all.
Starting point is 00:01:15 You know, and I'm like, sometimes the road is foggy. Oh. But you get to the end. You know, like, it makes sense. Yeah, I get it now. So I'm like, I trust the TV gods, the theatre gods. Yeah. The film gods.
Starting point is 00:01:27 I trust it all. Let it shine. Let it shine. Tell me your mantra in the three. My mantra this week is, it can be done. Oh, oh, oh, oh. If, buts, no if or buts. It can be done.
Starting point is 00:01:40 Yes. Yeah, when. It'll be done. If in doubt, it'll get done. It'll be done. Yeah, it'll be done. At some point. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:48 Deep faith. My song for this week is the best Christmas song of all time. Steady. Driving home for Christmas. I can wait to. See those faces. Banger. Whenever, like, my mum and dad would pick me up from school
Starting point is 00:02:04 and boarding school, usually Christmas times, it was hector. Yeah. So when they would, and then put this song on. Oh, I love that. I'd be like, Daddy's coming back from London. Yeah. Mum's cooking up a storm at home. Oh, I love that.
Starting point is 00:02:18 God, bloody wise. The best. And it's like when you, you know, when someone goes, I love this song and you think this song's shit. But for you, it has so many memories of town. Yeah. Oh my God, I love that. Mine is
Starting point is 00:02:30 Christmas time Mistletoe and wine Children sing Christmas That's a lot So good Mistletoe and Wine Cliff Richard
Starting point is 00:02:42 My dad always used to play it Because he always loves Top of the Pops And he used to play The 80s Top of the Pops And Cliff Richard Every time he'd be like Oh
Starting point is 00:02:54 The Mothers love this The Mothers love this Love a Christmas Love a Christmas song. It's just, oh, I'm like, oh, I love the older Christmas songs. Oh, yeah. I do, as opposed to, like, pop songs. I do love, and I know it's quite controversial, so, you know, not the controversial part I do, but I love the tune of Fairtale of New York. No, it's the two people. And the woman who...
Starting point is 00:03:19 Baby is cold outside. Really? Yeah. I actually... It's cold. They did do a more PC rewritten version with Kelly Clarkson and John Legend, and I don't hate her. Yeah, I know everyone's like, you shouldn't. It's like, he's coercing her and she doesn't want to do it and she wants to go. But I'm not, respectfully, it's a Christmas song.
Starting point is 00:03:37 Yeah, I'm like, take away all of that. I really love this song. It's a Christmas song. I'm like, really lovely. Love it. Recommendishals for this week is I will tell me that Christmas drinks, Costa wins. Costa, Costa, Costa wins. Costa, Costa.
Starting point is 00:03:58 I don't drink coffee. So I don't know what's best for coffee. No. I don't drink it. Archie says Costa's the worst for coffee. Costas is bad coffee. But I don't drink coffee, so I wouldn't know. But Christmas drinks.
Starting point is 00:04:10 I will say, though. I had the Terry's orange hot chocolate at Costa. And they had the whole trimmings, the whipped cream. And then they had the Terry's chocolate sprinkled with a slice of the Terry's chocolate orange. They have that. They have the mint. The mint is amazing. The white hot chocolate as well. I think cost to do the best hot chocolate around. And I've always said that.
Starting point is 00:04:36 I agree. I think. And also though, I don't mind they're saying I hate their coffee. They're gingerbread latte like I like. But I think that's mostly because it's whipped cream. Yeah, fair. But I do like a gingerbread latte. I actually haven't had any seasonal drink yet, apart from the after eight hot chocolate we got the other day. Oh, that was yummy. But I need to get like, I'm waiting for the blank street seasonal menu to come out. Oh, there's also, they're also doing the matcher white chocolate at Clubhouse. Ooh. Yummy, yummy, yummy.
Starting point is 00:05:04 Yeah. I love it. Right. Are you ready to debrief? I am ready to debrief. Let's do it. Let's debrief. This week's episode is a year-end girly reflection.
Starting point is 00:05:18 Yeah. So we're talking about biggest glow-ups, biggest dicks, lessons learnt. So we asked the debrief girlies. It could also be the guys, but we got the Gertley's response, to spill the tea on the biggest glow-ups of 2025. So this could be like celebs, it could be trends, it could be their own glow-ups, such. And biggest eights of the year.
Starting point is 00:05:39 And same premise. And here's what they had to say. We've got loads. So first one, my biggest take of this year was the Love Island 2025 men. Nothing more to add. Now, I was trying to think back. Who did we have? Harry, full stop.
Starting point is 00:05:54 We also had Dejean. Dejean. Dejean. Dejean. We also had, who was the one with Tony, the horrible one? Harrison. Harrison. Those three specifically were by far the worst. But also like...
Starting point is 00:06:09 The only good people in there were Cash and Ty. Was with Angel. Oh, he was with Angel. But like the others were all so questionable. Oh, I'm so glad they're still together. They're so sweet. I like Jamie, but him and... him and yes i never really trusted him yeah yeah but like the men on that season were moving
Starting point is 00:06:31 terribly i was shocked and i know i am very very lucky that i have friend but when people say to me you know how did you find archer i want a boy i'm thinking they're a lot you know not of loads of arches because he's very unique but i'm like my dad is a very good man my boyfriend is a very good man i have full faith in men yeah when i watched the way i was shocked and i was like is this how single men are moving? It's insane. I was like talking to you to the single friends I know and I'm like is this sick? Is this
Starting point is 00:07:02 the best we can do? It's terrifying. They are terrifying. The lying? The gaslighting. It was wild to me. I still to this day, do you not think Dijon likes me? No, honestly. I'm literally like, what on earth? What on earth is going on? But then, to give myself some checking. So you've got to check yourself.
Starting point is 00:07:22 I never thought Mali might like Tommy. And I was proved wrong. I never was convinced. Oh, interesting. I thought he was head over hills and not with her, but I never saw her. And then, haven't I, my words? Oh, well. What hell? One idiot. Okay. Second one, I completely agree. Chris Jenna has to take the crown for biggest glow up. I'm 21 and she looks more youthful than me. Honey, I agree. Well, I haven't even seen your face. I want her doctor. I'm iconic theme, first of all. First of all, iconic theme. I love that it said, Chris Jenner,
Starting point is 00:07:56 007. Yeah, yeah, perfect. 207 with a zero on there. Her in that red dress, she looks sensational. I love the theme that did you see like the photos inside? It looks sick. The Bond theme for a 70th.
Starting point is 00:08:08 She looks sensational. She looks so good. A cloud. And I know Anne Hathaway also had the like face down. But she's not, she's not 70. She's not, thank you, that's the words. She's not 70. Whereas Chris Jenner, I'm like.
Starting point is 00:08:24 It was, I was literally like, what in Fresh Fark? It looks incredible. And where are the scars? Where are the scars? I wonder, I really wonder what that journey was like because I've been watching Secret Lives with More Wives and Jessie. She's very, very, very public with all the procedures she has. Posts it all on TikTok, post all the recovery.
Starting point is 00:08:44 And some of the recovery is so brutal. You know, I'm like, gosh, that's so not as in how she looks, she's beautiful. But the recovery is just, it looks so painful. And I think, how in fresh fun? Chris Jenner must have gone on lockdown. Like, no one's seeing me for six weeks. Yeah. I need to depuff.
Starting point is 00:09:04 But I'm like, I've got bruises over my whole face. This is what I wonder about celebrities when they get work done and they aren't open about it. But then I'm like, obviously you can see they've had work done. But also, how do they go undetected? Getting the work done. And then also like, do they batch like, content to make it look like they're living their best life and they're like actually at home I know like I'm like how does it work how do you do it how do you do it that secretly because especially
Starting point is 00:09:30 with someone like Christiana who was just so high profile and she has I mean she's so massively successful yeah from herself but also how she no it's all herself she's given her children's successes she's really nurtured those roles how is she the amount of stuff she has to go to the amount a thing she needs to sign off on. You know, is that getting sent to her bed while she's recovering? I doubt it. Dout it. Chris has got a high, bloody work ethic.
Starting point is 00:09:57 Yeah. I mean, I've got my idea. I'm iconic. This is a good one, which is so tied into what I've been talking about the last few weeks. And also a TikTok trend that he's talked about. Oh, my God. Someone goes, I haven't even heard Lily Allen's album. And to be honest, I'm not sure I've ever been that obsessed with her music.
Starting point is 00:10:14 I disagree with that. But she says, the biggest dick is David Halber. David Harbour, get in the Bim. David Harbour, see yourself out. Have you seen the TikToks of people saying, you did such an optimist. It's really funny. People have started this trend saying,
Starting point is 00:10:31 me practicing when I see David Harbour. Yes. And people are like walking along and they're like singing her song and they're like, give me a, like, I love it. I, honestly, I love it. I love it. I love it. It's so good. Girlhood.
Starting point is 00:10:47 Girlhood. Did I tell you I got my mom? mom onto her. Oh, yeah. We spoke about it when watching a half marathon. Did you? Yeah. So did you listen to it? All the way through. My mum couldn't get over it. She was genuinely. She said she was moved to tears, which I think the album is.
Starting point is 00:11:03 It's very, very moving. Actually, it's been a year for Men and, like that, Love Island, 2025. I know. I know. Oh, my God. Someone says, interesting. Biggest it this year, and I don't care who the country. is all's fair. Worst bit of television I've ever seen. Whoever signed off on this is surely deeply regretting it.
Starting point is 00:11:27 It's so shit. I need to watch it. I really need to watch it because have you seen it got... It got terrible reviews. Terrible reviews. I don't think... I feel like I'm going to love this. I didn't even get any stars on Rotten Tomatoes.
Starting point is 00:11:37 It's like it's really, really bad. Like it's been given awful reviews. I was listening to one of my favorite podcast, my therapist goes to me. And Vogue was saying how she's watched it. And she said, I love it because there's, no expectation. It's not, I'm not watching, I'm not watching, because it was funny.
Starting point is 00:11:53 I was like, this is so me and Gatty. Joanne was watching Ed Dean at the time. And Vogue was watching all the person, completely different spectrum. And Vogue was like, I'm not expecting like Oscars from this. I'm just expecting something in the background while I swipe on my phone. So I thought, okay. And I've heard that from quite a few people actually that like, yeah, it's shit, but it's like the same shit as, well, they said this.
Starting point is 00:12:15 And I was like, whoa, hang on. They were like the same shit that's selling sunset is. and the same shit that, like, Secret Lives and Mormon wives are, which I was like, you know. Okay. Yeah. But, you know, I have read some horrific reviews saying Kim is the worst actress I've ever seen in my life. Hello, but she's on Disney Plus.
Starting point is 00:12:33 But have you seen, she posted it on her Instagram. Yeah, the reviews. I was like, but this is the thing. Kim can make anything popular. Yeah, she can. I will, honestly, like, if she said wearing a cabbage leaf on your head is the new trend. And I'm done. She's the Regina George.
Starting point is 00:12:48 of anything, like she can make it popular. Yes. And because, you know, it's so badly reviewed, everyone wants to watch it. Exactly, like, bad press is good press. Any press. Any press. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:01 Next one. Now, Demi or Demi from Secret Lives of Mormon Wives is the biggest ick of 2025. And in my opinion, keep her toxic energy away from me. See, I don't know the law on this. Katie, need to watch Secret Lies of More Wives. I do.
Starting point is 00:13:22 Because I need to talk to someone about it. I do. And you know you'll love it. Yeah. And I have like such love for some characters, characters. They're real people. But I have such love for some characters. For others, I'm like, what the actual.
Starting point is 00:13:33 And I don't want to tell you. Interesting. Because I don't want to influence what you're going to say. Okay. But are you agreeing with Demi being the ick? Okay. Interesting. Okay.
Starting point is 00:13:42 In my opinion, I have never, ever witness such. I'm sorry, bully behaviour from a woman. Yeah. And it's a real shame because season one, her and Jessie are very, very close. And I really like Demi. I thought, oh, okay, she's quite, she's a strong woman, you know. And it's just, oh, my, you have to watch it, and I need to talk to someone about it. Okay, I'll get on it.
Starting point is 00:14:06 And next one, biggest glow-up of the year for me is that, oh, this is a personal one, is that I've converted from acrylics to buy up. I love my new nail era. Well done, girl. I still am yet to make that jump. I love my acrylics. I know. I'm saying that I don't have any on.
Starting point is 00:14:22 You're such an acrylic girl and I'm such my biab girl. I love my buy-a-a-ab off. I did. Get me. No, like acrylic's the only thing that's safe from me, norring them off. Yeah. I think acrylics were for me a time in my life that I loved. I'm like, oh, that was so much fun.
Starting point is 00:14:42 Yeah. But I'm now like, I'm not that anymore. but there are specific people, Chloe Cardassian, Cynthia Arrivo, that I'm like, you could never put biabs on. I'm like, don't put biab on Chloe Kardashian. Oh, no, she's, of course. Never. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:56 But I love that this girl's taken that jump. I love it. I love that, well done. Oh, no, I, I, okay, I'll read this one. In my opinion, I love when people say that, in my opinion, the best glow-up of this year is the bushy brows going to thin brows. It's so chic. It depends how thin you're going
Starting point is 00:15:17 Because some people are going thin I'm seeing these like look I was never bushy brow Obsessed Yeah Like the laminated brows No I never liked that But if you've got like
Starting point is 00:15:29 A gorgeous I mean mine are quite light I've always had quite thin eyebrows But if you've got like You've got lovely high brows Like really thick styled eyebrows I'm like gorgeous I'm seeing some women
Starting point is 00:15:39 There's this gorgeous girl On TikTok And I never You know like Have you seen these things on TikTok where women get nobs jobs and people are like, why would you get rid of that? Like, it was better before. I'm like, well, she can't get rid of it now. Like, why are you saying these things? So I'm like, oh. But I always do check the comments.
Starting point is 00:15:56 I'm like, always. Are people thinking what I'm thinking? Yeah. But this, but this woman, not the nose job woman, a different woman, had gorgeous brows. Yeah. Really thick, not bushy, but thick and lovely. And she went from that to thin and they're just a line. And I was hard to get back. And she was like, they're so gorgeous. She was like in a sandglass, and I was like, what have you done to your gorgeous brows? That's the worst bit is that they're hard to grow back. It's hard to grow them back thick.
Starting point is 00:16:24 Completely. That's the only thing I'm like, I just don't know if I could. I just never. I would never. No. I've had them thin. I used to get them threaded. And when they thread them, they do naturally thin them a bit more than,
Starting point is 00:16:34 oh, really? Like, and I remember I got them threaded like a few months ago and I was like, whoa. What the hell? But it wasn't even that dramatic, but I was like, they're so thin. They're so thin. But yeah, I've never been the biggest fan. I'm also not the biggest fan of laminated brows.
Starting point is 00:16:48 Are they the soap ones? Yeah, I hate them. Some people really suit them. I do not. I really don't like them. No. At all. Okay.
Starting point is 00:16:57 What's the next one? What's people said? Okay. So there's another reality TV one. Yeah. Biggest stick this year is Crishell turning into a mean girl. Bring back season one, Chrisel. She was so down to earth.
Starting point is 00:17:11 This girl is a horror. Okay. Have you caught up? I haven't caught up, but I've caught TikTok. I've been watching it on TikTok. Selling Sunset is going to the dogs. I actually think it might get cancelled. Because I...
Starting point is 00:17:26 You need to watch the recent series. Have you seen Christine come out on TikTok being like I was right, all wrong about Cichelle? But someone commented saying, the only one that can put Cichelle back in her place. Bring her Christine back. Bring her back. I am baffled at her behaviour. I'm baffled at all their behaviour.
Starting point is 00:17:45 Let me just say, insane. I, if that's what LA's like, I will be working there, I will never live there. Oh. I was like, is that what it's like? Insane. And then, have you seen the drama with her and Emma?
Starting point is 00:18:02 About her boyfriend. And the thing she said about, like, Emma and she said, you're supposed to be my best friend. I'm like, Oh, it's just awkward, isn't it? And there's a really uncomfortable episode which you should watch and it's like Emma's talking about
Starting point is 00:18:17 things and like Chris Lach like jokes about him saying basically that he's like he's a shit and she's like sat there like and she's like well I'm not wrong like that energy and it's like shut on what yeah oh god
Starting point is 00:18:32 I watched the clips of the reunion and I was like Tan France didn't know what to do he was like completely but it's not even about the boyfriend because of quite controversial things about the boyfriend. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:43 So I'm not going to defend that. But I thought, not even but I'm not going to defend that at all or his actions or I don't know the details of what happened. Christian and Emma's friendship. Yeah. Like she completely... Why are you not separating those two things? She threw her to the dogs.
Starting point is 00:18:59 Yeah. I was like, wow. Okay. Someone said this, but I don't get it. So maybe you need to tell me what this means. My Ike was realizing my ex's bed frame was on the floor. Babe get furniture. Does that mean that it's one of those.
Starting point is 00:19:12 beds that are on the floor or that he doesn't have a bed, it's just a mattress. I know. I was like, I don't know what that means. I don't know. My ex is realizing my ex's bed frame was on the floor. Babe get furniture. I know. I completely agree. I hate beds that are on the floor. Oh, I like being high up. Like, I love to be. I want to jump into bed. Yeah. Yeah. I want to jump into bad. I don't, you know, like, those tic tops of what home are you going to get? Yeah. Yeah. And you see like the beds, that don't even have a bed frame
Starting point is 00:19:45 or just a mattress and then I'm like, what the hell? Yeah, no. I don't want to be sinking, I don't want to be squatting to get into bed. Yeah, no. I want to be like jumping up. Yes.
Starting point is 00:19:54 So I agree with you there. Yeah. Okay. Biggest glow up this year for me was realizing all of this skincare shit is a scam. I now just use water on my face and my skin has never looked better.
Starting point is 00:20:08 I've had acne for 10 years plus ever since I was young, And it's completely gone. Interesting. I've heard this happen to people before. I'm hearing more and more and more and more of this. Yes. Yeah. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:20:22 Very, very interesting. Yeah. Especially the acne because, you know, with acne, I didn't personally experience it, but I know Arch didn't. He was on medication and all of that. So I know some of it. It's not just about the things you're using on your face.
Starting point is 00:20:36 It is hormone. There's a lot of, you know, stuff that you need help with. Yeah. It's kind of out of your condition. control sometimes. So that's really, really interesting. Yeah. I mean, maybe she was on medication, but that water was helping more than creams. Yeah, interesting. So your sister did the no shampoo thing. Yeah. Fuck.
Starting point is 00:20:56 Don't tell you, Archie went to get his hair washed the other, and hair cut the other day. And they were like, your hair's so dry. It's because he washes it every day. That's what they said. They said, half-ton, do you wash it? He says, every day. And they said, you need to stop doing that. I said, I told you. Yeah. And then today, like, he came in for a cuddle and I was like, oh, your hair sounds lovely. And you said, I've been using conditioner. Oh, I was like, oh, I was so cute. You're sorry, yeah, I've been using conditioner. Oh, because my hairdresser told me too.
Starting point is 00:21:23 I was like, oh. Bless him. Okay, what else do I have for you? Glow up this year is the John Lewis advert. I thought it was so relatable. My dad and my brother really related to it, and I thought it was sweet. That's so good. I thought it was very different from the things they've done before,
Starting point is 00:21:40 like the monster under the bed, I thought actually it was quite real. I really liked it. People can express their love in different ways. Sometimes that can be through money. It can be gifts or all that kind of stuff. And that was a real cry for connection. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:56 And you saw it and it's really, really sweet. Really sweet. Fo fur. Fox fur, faux fur. Oh, yeah, foe. Foe, is it foe. Someone said the faux fur takeover is by far the best glow up in fashion history. I don't care what anyone else says. It feeds myself.
Starting point is 00:22:12 Fofa. Love it. I love it. I love it so much. I actually found a Karen, Karen Miller. Oh, nice. You're coming on with me. Oh my God, this is the nicest thing I was in. Yeah, I love Fofa. I love it. I love it. I love. Oh, I love that. Okay. This is controversial and I feel like you girls won't agree, but I have to say, I feel leopard print is so tacky. It's a nick. Leave it in 2020. I quite like a leper print gene. I don't own one, but I always see people wear leopard print jeans and I'm like, oh, cool. I love leopard prints. It's so cool.
Starting point is 00:22:51 I love it. It is funky. I love it, I love it. It's like the cat's later diva diva of it all. I love it. I do like it. I love it. I love it.
Starting point is 00:23:00 I've got a leopard print top. Love it. Yeah. Also, I saw someone, this wasn't leopard print. It was zebra, but I saw someone with a zebra coat the other down. I was like, it was like, so, faux fur kind of vibes. Obsessed. But like, the real short one, not like, fluff it. so maybe it's not more like just normal fur.
Starting point is 00:23:15 Yeah, yeah. And it was like below the knee length. And it was like zebra and I was like, wow. Obsessed. And she had like slick black stiletto boots on. And I was like, you look sensational. Obsessed. Yeah, absolutely sensational.
Starting point is 00:23:28 So good. Amazing. And my freshenick for 2025 is the school shoe look. Why are people choosing to buy them to wear with an everyday outfit? They should be and were left at school. why are we bringing them back? Interesting. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:23:47 I quite like it. I'm not really like any way about it. Like if you wore a school shoe, I'd be like, yeah. But if you didn't, I wouldn't be like. Yeah, I quite like them. I'm not really either. He and all there. He and all there.
Starting point is 00:24:04 Someone said, which I completely forgot about, the biggest ick this year was the Justin Baldoni and Blake lively. I still don't know. What was the result of that? Darling, neither do I. I think no. It's still going. It's still going, is it?
Starting point is 00:24:17 It's still going. Yeah. We've got two more. The next one I completely agree with. Get rid of the skims, pubs, pants. I think that's... For the love of God, leave them in 2025. Hard disagree.
Starting point is 00:24:29 I think it was fucking hilarious. Mirkin. If you put... I'd be like Katie. I think it's hilarious. I'd be like, oh my God. I think it's so funny. I just can't understand who's buying this.
Starting point is 00:24:42 I think it's a gimmick. Yeah, no, I think it is a gimmick thing, though. I don't think people are buying it to like, unless people are buying it for like photo shoots. See, the gimmick in it's funny, but who's actually wearing these? Who's actually wearing them? I just think it's, I think it's so funny. She's such a divo. Because also, I'm like, who's our generation, what's our parents one?
Starting point is 00:25:06 Don't even know. Like, something. Yeah. They're bush material. They love a bus. Yeah, they love. Our hero. We're completely shaved. So I'm like, who's getting these?
Starting point is 00:25:16 Who's buying them? Who's your target audience? Who's the target? Completely. That's what I'm trying to say. Who's the target audience? What is it, Kim? Last one, you and I were both baths. Let's not forget about the summer I turned pretty. It kept me sane when nothing else did. I went insane.
Starting point is 00:25:33 I know. I went insane. It was great. I loved it. I was obsessed. It was amazing. I was, I looked forward to every Wednesday. It was so.
Starting point is 00:25:42 Oh, it was so good. It was so good. So bring back yearning. It was so good. Bring back yearning. Belly. Belly. Fuck, I still love you, belly.
Starting point is 00:25:52 I was gagged. I was gagged. I literally at the beach. And there's nothing more that brings girls together. Fisher. Absolutely. Comrade. And I loved seeing the TikToks of women being like,
Starting point is 00:26:02 I've been married for five years and have two kids and I'm in love with Conrad. Who isn't in love with Conrad, Fisher? I love it. Obsessed. Okay. We're going to go on to. not debrief dilemmas, but debrief lessons. Yes.
Starting point is 00:26:16 So we also debrief about any lessons they learnt this year. Yeah. And someone wrote in that I thought it would be really, really good that I know we've made light of 2025 and the ups and the downs, but I think actually learning from things is really important, but also the things that happen this year that, you know, we should really hold light to and be respectful of. And I thought this one was lovely. Someone said, this year, to be honest, has been a really top.
Starting point is 00:26:42 one for so many, and for me personally. It was a year of real loss. During the Californian wildfires, I lost my home, my belongings, and a sense of normality. It's the kind of thing that shakes you to your core, but through all, one lesson really became crystal clear. When times are tough, the people around you are what really matter the most. It's not the things you own. It's not the things you have, but the relationships you have. This year taught me to prioritize building those connections, to be there for others and to let them be there for me. I cannot explain to you the amount of kindness I experienced by those people in my life and I will forever be grateful to those individuals. I mean, that's lovely. That is so lovely. And I'm so sorry, you know, that was
Starting point is 00:27:25 horrible. Honestly, you had a friend to his family, went through it. I mean, it's so, all the things that have happened this year, you know, you do have to keep in mind that, you know, you and I are lucky. And you have to be so, so considerate of others. So I think that's lovely. I think that's a really, really nice lesson. And that those people around you are so important. Yeah, literally. They are so important.
Starting point is 00:27:49 It puts everything into perspective, isn't it? I couldn't imagine losing your house and losing all your belongings and all that kind of stuff. The memories. But those people around you, that's really special. Because we did X from 2025, we're going to do X of our own. Okay. So I'm going to think on the spot here, what was my ick of this year? And if you have any as well, my ick of 2025.
Starting point is 00:28:19 Oh, I tell you what it fucking is. Tell me. Labubo's. I completely will jump on that. Labibu's, biggest dick of 2025. Lubu's, I don't understand. That'll be yours and mine for this week because they are, they're not getting it. I've never got it.
Starting point is 00:28:32 They are the worst. Literally. Get out. What? They're so ugly. So ugly. I don't get them. I don't get them. I don't get it. And that's so expensive. I'm like, what? I don't get it. I don't get it at all.
Starting point is 00:28:48 Okay, questions. Questions? Questions? I'm silly. And I am serious. Hit me. Okay. This is more of a serious question in the sense of like, what do you think the biggest lesson you have learned this year is? Oh, that's a good question. I think it might be quite. similar to trust the process. And I know I say that a lot, but I think this year says it most of all. I was talking to my mum and to Archie that when the clock countdown for new years happens this year, I'll be performing on stage. And I was like telling last year me that I would have been, what, what do you mean? And getting paid for and being recognised for my skills. I was like, you never, you continue working hard.
Starting point is 00:29:37 I'd continue believing and never stop and it will come true. Yeah. All of my ambitions will come true. Just do not, don't stop. Don't like yourself. So I think it's like trust that it's going to happen. Yeah. And you don't know how, but it will.
Starting point is 00:29:52 Oh, I love that. My same way question for you is we have seen some wild TikTok dancers this year, okay? Pick your favorite dance of 2025. Oh my God. And do a demonstration. You do not have to stand up. but I'd love to see a bit of a pop-a-log. I really liked my favorite one.
Starting point is 00:30:13 He was so good at him. I loved learning TikTok dancers. It's so fun. There's nothing more that'd make me laugh, right? Come home and I did like the one. I did like the one. I see you with this. Or how about me?
Starting point is 00:30:27 Or the apple. You know that apples. That one was fun. I also really liked. Someone did the sweet escape by Gwen Stefani. and I was like, T, who, who. He, who.
Starting point is 00:30:41 That was fun. That was really fun. I like that. They're always really fun to watch. I think I could do that. And I try to learn one. And I'm like, sit down. Have you seen the new trend now of,
Starting point is 00:30:50 from Dancing with the Stars? The walking legs. Insane. Insane. Amazing. So good. Amazing. So, so good.
Starting point is 00:30:58 Amazing. Yeah. You've done some great TikTok dance since. Oh, I loved them. Right, guys. I hope you've enjoyed the episode and reflected in such a great. Be grateful for all that's come and reflective. I hope you have a great rest of your mind.
Starting point is 00:31:12 Yeah. And we'll be here next week. See you. See you. Bye.

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