The Debrief - Real Role Models | The Debrief Podcast

Episode Date: July 15, 2024

Welcome back to The Debrief!This week we are talking all things ROLE MODELS, do they even exist? How do you become a good one? and so much more! As always please email any dilemmas to [e-mail] or DM us @the.debriefpodcast Have an amazing week! Lots of love,K+K xx Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

happy monday monday's hit again like clockwork booming like clockwork it actually freaks me out that someone actually sat there once and was like okay let's map out this yeah because the sun keeps coming every like eight months yeah maybe let's call it july yeah yeah yeah whoa whoa what's that about like did they you know how the sun goes dark like yes yes are they just thinking we've had bad luck again this year or are they like yeah it's because it's a repeat like a repetitive like how many years did it take them to realize this is like a thing and maybe they thought that the world was like it just kept in the sense of it kept repeating so it's not another and it's not another year no they're like

it's happening again like shit like it's ground another year no no no they're like fuck it's happening again like shit like it's grand old day oh no that would be too much you know me you get me yeah I get you

yeah like fuck I wasn't born in those times I would have been fucking clueless nah that would have freaked me out ooh I don't know about that I mean really truly

it's like they all measured it like to do with the sun and I'm like imagine having to measure the sun. No, no, no, no, no, no. That's not fair. You're all right.

You're all right. Let me sort out my bloody hair. But tell me how you're doing, darling. Oh, I'm feeling fabulous, Fandabi Doze. I am, too. Yeah. Well, we're in summer. I know.

Summer's blossomed. Summertime feeling fine. Oh, lovely. Like that snowman in Frozen. Olaf. Oh. In summer. Lovely. Yes, yes, yes. So tell snowman in Frozen. Olaf. In summer. Lovely.

So tell me what your mantra this week is. My mantra this week is, I cannot be my biggest cheerleader whilst also being my biggest critic. Oh, darling. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, why? I feel like, and this is just like a general thing I feel like I always jump

to what I've done wrong first okay rather than think okay I've done 10 things right yeah compared to one thing wrong yeah like I never stopped to be like no no you did most of that right like well done champ well I can't like and it's hard to you can't do both at the same time i find it very hard to be objective and i also think when it's especially stuff i care about if i do it wrong or get something not quite right i fixate on it to the point where it does me no favors oh okay so i'm using that to remind myself oh i love that at least you know you're aware of it yes you know because some people are very very cynical and then they don't even realize they are and it's like god you're a debbie downer love i can't be debbie can't be debbie can't be debbie what's your mantra my mantra this week is i'm allowed to prioritize

myself absolutely i am allowed okay yeah i'm allowed like even yesterday for example okay someone told me something and i was like okay cool like something that's going on in their life normal me would be like right let me drop everything yeah let me clear the fucking table and let me be like that hog roast spinning around for your amusement. Yes. Whereas I was like, here for you, and I'm listening, but I'm off. Yeah. And I was just like, you know, and I thought to myself, maybe it's a bit selfish, but sometimes you've got to be. No, you have to. You know, sometimes you've got to be like, it's me time.

It's my time now. It's kitty time. It's kitty time right now. It's the kitty show. Yes. I was like, today it is, my friends, you know?

Yeah, I love that. So actually, I was then getting like, oh God, am I being selfish? I was like, no.

No. I'm allowed. Yeah. Exactly. No is a complete sentence. Yeah. Yeah. It's like,

no. No, that's not happening. Don't have to justify it. It's kitty time. Exactly. So my summer this week as well. Yeah, tell me.

Sometimes I feel I've got to get away. I've got to run away from... Sing it. Tainted love. What a tune. And I've got to actually do a shout out to my mother here. When I was at home, I was like, mum, can you dance for me how you used to dance in clubs? And she was like, of course I can.

She was like, just hit me an 80s tune. So I was like, cool. So I hit her an 80s tune. Tainted Love came on. You should have seen those hips moving. Oh, yes. She was like, sometimes i feel i've got to hits one i was like moving and grooving my mom says something that i think is great for like

people who feel awkward clubbing she's like own your space oh yeah you've taken that with you she's like you have your space and that space is yours oh no and i love it it's your time to shine she's quite a good yeah yeah she's quite a good bopper like i've seen her bop before i'm like whoa mom you're quite you can get jiggy she can she'll get jiggy if she needs to oh yes so tell me your song for this week mine is if i'm mad i ain't gonna laugh about it Arms crossed with the attitude Lips pouted If I'm mad I ain't gonna laugh about it Net roll with the attitude Fake smile Ariana Grande

Love it Banger Also how do you always do lyrics to songs? Like I always make them up I think I've got like a I can retain lyrics Yeah like I'll sing like a Like a A little And then you'll be like. Like I'll sing like a, like a,

a tune. A little mm-mm. And then you'll be like, and then I went to the supermoto. And I was like, how does she know the lyrics to that? I love that. Yeah.

No, I feel like they just, a lot of things don't stay in here, but lyrics do. Do you know, actually, like some people, I've had such a skill to know lyrics.

For example, like Archie's dad. Yeah. Has said to me numerous times he's like i know no lyrics to things like i'll know this tune and i'll know like yeah but i won't know any of the lyrics if someone's like get up there and sit i'd be like wish i could i know right it's such a skill oh thank you yeah take it back life skills take a back burner but hey if you ever Yeah. Take it back. Life skills. Take it back, Berna.

But hey, if you ever want to hear the High School Musical cast album, word for word. Oh, you're the first woman. Yeah. Come to me. Come to me. Exactly. Right, should we do a recommendation?

So, a recommendation for this week, Pete Shealy. So, this will be coming out on the 15th. July. Of July. Delightful. So, maybe I should recommend myself. Actually, no, youy Leech, so this will be coming out on the 15th. July. Of July. Delightful. So maybe I should recommend myself. Actually, no, you should. Okay, yeah.

So our recommendation of this week, my lovelies, is actually God's Gift. Tell them. Me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, no. And they all saw that coming. Everyone knew. They thought, all right, God's Gift, that'll be Kitty.

Yeah. In three days, my darlings, it's going to be the 18th of July. Do you know what day that is? Do you know what day that is? My birthday. Yeah. So I'm just going to say, look, I'm not recommending. No, I am.

I'm recommending myself. And again, I'm allowed to prioritise myself. I'm going to recommend Big Chief. gonna recommend big chief big chief over here on the throne you know what turning it's gonna 22 taylor's year of fulfillment yeah success yeah and ownership yes i'm owning this fucking yeah guys i'm owning it that was very poetic i got chills then yeah yeah i did again fulfillment success and ownership ownership ownership's a very powerful word yeah yeah it's like in the club i own the space you own fucking 22 yeah no one else is 22 no well you are no just you own it just me and actually cray cray archie sister's boyfriend yeah was born

the same day i was fuck so i'm like shame he won't be celebrating not on his birthday no no no he'll be like god i shouldn't have done that no i've been born the same shit was i was like that you should apologize actually you should send you a letter, he should send you a letter. Oh. He should send you a letter. Gift in the post would be well received. I wonder if he could change his birth certificate or something. We'll see. We'll see. Well, yes, yes.

Well, he must. Yeah, he must. Yes. Okay, guys, shall we crock up? Crack on. Crack on. Let's crack on. Shall we?

I'm ready. Let's debrief. Okay, tell me me what are we doing for this week this week we are talking all about role models oh nice oh no myself yeah yeah exactly so we're talking about role models this week and a role model is someone that people look up to as a good example so my question to you yeah is who was your first role model and has that changed slash do you have one now oh okay so answer the question i think growing up like as a child i had quite a few different role models and i think it was like categorized depending on like you have your fame role model like you have your public eye but then you also have i had a role model at school yeah like someone who i looked to and i was like oh my god i think she's amazing

yeah then i had like a family role model so i'm gonna take you through them yeah i was like my fame role model if i'm thinking of child okay yeah yeah selena gomez fuck she was my go-to woman she was on disney channel not only could she actually could sing yeah she could pop and knock she was a sassy character i was like i would love to play alex russo yeah on wizards of waverly place yeah and not only that she then started doing like concerts i was like oh is she gonna be a pop star next she was a pop star i was like this girl i want to be do you know what she had tell me ownership she ownership coming up to 22 she was a pop star. I was like, this girl, I want to be. Do you know what she had? Tell me. Ownership. She had ownership.

Coming up to 22, she was like, I'm going to own this shit. I'm like, Selena. She had some in time. Yeah. Yeah. I'm coming for you. Yeah. I love her.

I love her music. And when I was growing up and still now, performing My Dream always will be my dream. And seeing her do it so unapologetically yeah i was so inspired so that was my fame my second one india martin at school shout out to india india martin wherever she is now yeah okay so she was in sixth form when i no she was in seventh form when i was in third form oh she played Sally Bowles and Cabaret at Oakham School. And I was like, she is incredible. To that day, I saw her and thought, when I'm in seventh form,

I want to be the lead in the musical. When I came rolling around, Chicago hit. And who was Roxy Hart? The name on everybody's lips is going to be Kitty. That's it. I should have done that for my manch this week. The name on everybody's lips is going to be Kitty. Sing it, boys.

So she was my inspiration. I was like, and she was so cool and collected. And I just thought, oh, my gosh, you're amazing. And I hadn't seen productions done like this. For me, it was like the West End I was like how is this just a school production so there and then family it's got to be my sister I looked up to my sister like she was big chief yeah there was only a year apart from us but I thought she was amazing she was really academic yeah and I think the thing that i was most inspired yes she was academic but i don't think that's bad i don't think that actually inspired me what made me look

up to her was her ability to be unapologetically herself even if it meant being unpopular sometimes oh yeah so moral she'd do the right thing when i wasn't that moral i maybe wouldn't do the right thing i was like right you know i'm up there with the cool kids yeah i didn't care about that yeah and that's why i looked up to her how about you what who your childhood role model my first role model yeah funnily enough we're on the same disney channel vibe oh was it miley cyrus i love that woman i think she's my role model now what a fucking legend because truly truly, she was Hannah Montana. She was Hannah Montana. She had the revolving wardrobe.

She had the best of both worlds. Truly. And she had the lame-o out front. What? Hottest style in shoe every golf. She did. When you're famous, it can be kind of fun. It's really you, but no one ever discovers.

Like, truly, she was it for me. And then I remember... She was it, girl. famous, it can be kind of fun. It's really you, but no one ever discovers. Like truly, she was it for me. And then I remember. She was it girl. She was it girl. Her and Selena. Her and Selena. It girls. Her, Selena and Demi.

It girls. It girls. Because I was obsessed with Miley Cyrus. Like obsessed with her to the point where like I would quote Hannah Montana all the time. She was the first concert I ever went to go see her. like obsessed with her to the point where like i would quote hannah montana all the time she was the first concert i ever went to go see her like my first ever concert went to see miley cyrus when she did fly on the wall jealous then she obviously did can't be tamed and that was like new era miley yeah she she made me want to rebel like oh yeah i was i was a worshiper

still am a miley cyrus she will never go out of style no she's like sure she's like dolly parton exactly you know i'm like exactly well she's got this the family runs in the family doesn't it yeah i love it and then aside from that it's similar it's my sister i've always like when you're younger especially you're always like i just want to do what you do yeah and it's funny because i feel like i owe a lot of like what i'm pursuing now to my sister because she always did performing and then kind of like i got roped in because it was easier for your mum to drop both off yeah yeah and then like i found such a passion so i you know i owe quite a lot of that to her oh that's so nice yeah so i think those those were my big role models oh i love that so we asked a debrief about

their role models growing up and here is what they said so i had one right into me which is lovely my one role model who i will go back to frequently when i need to calm or comfort myself and this person is michelle ob Obama. I am a young black woman and I have come from a very working class background. And when I was growing up, I truly didn't know what was out there for women like us. But when I used to see Michelle on TV or in her book or speaking,

she filled me with so much hope and aspiration. She is now the reason I'm currently studying law. I know, right? Oh, but imagine being that influential i was just about to say that that someone's like i'm gonna do that you do something that like makes someone want to pursue a career path because you've seen yeah they've seen what you're doing but even like do you remember regina george when she cut the holes in her shirt with her tips yeah and everyone's like regina did it so i did it yeah you're that influential whoa i'm obsessed with michelle

obama i i think she's incredible girl run for president please god she'd do a great job please run michelle such a strong intelligent so charismatic likable individual. She's so... Level-headed. Yeah. I think she'd be amazing. Have you got one? I have got one. So, I was obsessed with Bugs Bunny when I was younger. I loved how crafty he was and wanted to be just like him. That talks Michelle. Real.

It's really two ends of the spectrum here. Bugs Bunny. Honestly, I love the thought of this person becoming a menace. real like yeah yeah it's really two ends of the spectrum here but bugs bugs bunny and honestly like i love the thought of this person becoming a menace because of watching bugs bunny do it on television can i quickly just say quick side note i said bugs bunny the other day to archie yeah like you know how i'm ridiculous like yeah if you're not good i'm gonna put you in a cage or something you know when i always say ridiculous things i said to archie the other day are you are you bugs bunny and he was like what i was like are you bugs bunny what are you talking about i was like bugs bunny bugs bunny and he was like i don't know who that is i was like shut up i was like looney tunes he was like he's like tweety bird he was like what no need to he was like tweety bird he was like

I've got no idea what you're saying no idea this person knows Bugs Bunny I love how they were like I need to be that crafty no literally

he's like he gets away with everything like imagine being a child and watching this fucking bunny get away with everything and you're like I want to be just like that fucker

what's his space I want to be just like him here I go. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I love it. It's great. Yes.

Okay, so someone wrote in to me that you will actually cry at this. Oh, no. This is so cute. Oh, no. I had to answer this question recently in an interview, and I was stumped. I tried to come up with someone exciting or innovative or creative, but the realist and truest answer to give was my mum people think being a stay at home I say that she said it in inverted commas mum isn't a job but I

completely disagree my mum has brought up five incredible people my siblings are amazing individuals and I am so proud of each and every one of them and she's done exactly that brought us all up to be individual we're all different in our own beautiful ways whilst doing this she has given me the greatest gift and that's a safe place the home she's made for us she also without fail encouraged us to pursue our extracurricular activities that made us unique the eldest doing football then my other brother doing rugby, the middle child doing horse riding, me doing dance,

and the youngest finally doing gymnastics. And she never, ever, without fail, missed one recital, match, or competition. She was there at every single one, cheering us on, and was our positive shining light. I'm so proud to know her, and that is the reason she's my role model. I mean... Shut up no i'm gonna cry drop the mic drop the mic i literally read that and i

thought wow that's really it makes me want to have a child and i'll be like say that about me well i'm taking this whole problem myself to a new level no because i'm right there with you i'm like i have like adore me like i'm also kind of just saying i adore my mother and the way i speak to i'm like come on i just need to birth someone to be like because you are god's gift i'll be like because but then if they didn't i'd be bitter i'd be so better i'm like i literally pushed you out me for hey hey for hey don't don't fuck don't fucking think you're special yeah all right don't tell me how great i am if i have a boy no i won't i'll have two girls no yes two girls yes oh my god speaking of that someone today said to me i see you exclusively

as a boy mom and i was like i was like whoa i am so sorry take that out your mouth leave there's the door there's the door bitch i was like no no he's like oh my god no no like literally i could only see you as a boy mom shut up do you know in some kind of way i see that as a compliment i would take it as a compliment tenacious tenacious charismatic kind of what'll be will be an army of boys whereas Tenacious. Tenacious. Charismatic. Kind of... What'll be will be. An army of boys. Whereas... I feel so outnumbered.

I can barely live with the boys we have now. I've got to say to you right now, I will never babysit. They scare me. They scare me so much. No, it's not for like... I won't babysit until they're like six or seven. When they start getting like Ben 10.

Nah, nah, nah. When they've got their watches, I'll be like, no, no, no. When they start getting Ben 10. Let me do your put their watches i'll be like no no no when they start yeah let me do your eyeliner all right yeah i get a bit scared okay yeah you got any more i mean i have one more but again like i feel like following that it's just no but hey guys your role models are yours yeah yeah oh no oh no so minus maybe all the all the seawards were like i'll go skating literally I was fucking loving them and I honestly

kind of relate to this one it's gonna be bloody Mickey Mouse truly yeah when I was growing up I wanted to be just like

Mary Berry her outfits and everything that she baked I wanted to make and in fairness girl I get you okay because I've seen mary's vicky sponge

and would i would like to replicate that yeah look i've got to be honest vicky sponge is hard to do okay it is dry think of think of a stately home it can either be really dry and you're like oh or it can be that little village the random random village you visited and there's a little like bakery and the granny's made it and it's sensational. Oh, yes. Mary Berry's a granny. That's why it's sensational.

Mary Berry is fucking delightful and the fact she's not on Bake Off anymore has always made me very sad. What's she doing now? No shade. Don't know, probably retired. Yeah, probably.

She's seen a lot. She's an old lady. You'd be like, I'd be like, whip me up a lemon meringue yeah like because yeah truly i'd be asking for banoffee pie yeah i'd be asking for a lemon drizzle seeds with poppy seeds and a slight glaze on people fucking sleep on lemon drizzle and they shouldn't because there's something about lemon drizzle cakes that I adore. Oh, right. Right?

I thought you were going to shit on it. Oh, no, no, no. They're crispy, but tart, but sweet. Tell you that does a great lemon drizzle, blah, blah. No, fuck it. I didn't even know they did a lemon drizzle. Head over there for a lemon drizzle. Or you know where I'll be tomorrow.

Incredible. They have a slight glaze on the top. I know, right? No, I need to do i need to okay so i got one more okay and i will be honest i don't know who this person is okay okay but every person's role model is your own okay so my role model is keegan hurst oh i think he's a sensational sportsman. Love that. And when I met him, he was even nicer, kinder and generous than you can ever imagine.

He is so highly respected and adored, yet he was so down to earth and I hope that one day I can follow in his shoes and be as good as he is and remain a decent and relatable person. Love that. How nice is it to meet your star? What's that phrase? They is it to meet your star?

What's that, what's that phrase? They always say, never meet your heroes. Yeah, never meet your heroes. But hey, meet them.

I could be such a shame, at the moment I'm watching this program with Nicole Kidman in, I forgot who she is. She is sensational. If I met Nicole Kidman, I'd prop a fangirl. I'd be like, one of the girls to the other,

I love you. Okay? Love. And if she was just like, I'd be like, I'd be so upset. I'd be like one girl to the other i love you okay love and if she was just like i'd be like i'd be so upset i'd be devoid but but then you've met them at least so no so then you can sit there and it's like god i wish i met a celebrity yeah when i met nicole kidman you met nicole kidman it's quite good to get some attention name dropper yeah name dropper

when I met Nicole well well well when I met Nikki Nicole Kidman oh Nicole Kidman oh yeah she asked me to call her Nikki she just goes NK to me actually literally

so should we crack on? let's crack on so this brings us on to celebrity role models. I feel like it's quite hard because no one asks for celebrity status as such. People do things that garner them support. Yeah, so true. And you have a lot of eyes on them. People have role models for celebs because of their work or because of their image.

Yes. Not really opposed to the real them yes us as a public don't know the real nicole kidman no or the real michelle obama yeah we know her image and what's put out there but actually what they're doing in their own time what they've done we don't know that well also yeah let's talk about that so we are going to be highlighting things that celebrities do for others charitable causes acts of kindness that aren't necessarily showcased that i personally think make them good i think role models yeah people that to look up to so because you fixate on the big house and the nice car and the great clothes and what they're

wearing to the grammys and what they're wearing to the Grammys and what they're wearing to the Oscars. But what are they actually doing with all that fame? Yeah. With all that money? Yes, 100%. So my first one is Dolly. Oh, I love that. Dolly Parton. Tell me.

Dolly Parton does so much for people. So she has the Dollywood Foundation, which is the charity that gives money to children to help them through education in her home county in the states and also was one of the i'm pretty sure i'm writing this was one of the first people to donate large sums of money in terms of research for the covid vaccine wow she did like for the clinical trials wow amazing um she was a large donator and benefactor of that i would be starstruck if i met her i would i would i absolutely adore the same as she's on the same level to me as like share like if i saw share and

dolly partner i'm like i genuinely thought you were a figment of my imagination until dolly's incredible like you're like a legend she seems like such a down-to-earth person like you know even that thing i went to that concert i went to with charlotte where we yeah yes she spoke in it like she they called her and she did a voice saying like hang on like just wanted to say for good luck to all you songwriters oh and i was like you gave your time she's just so she's a generous person yeah who have you is. Who have you got? Okay, so I've got a really sweet one. Upon returning, this is a personal story from this guy. He says, upon returning from my tour in Iraq,

Carl Upman set out to buy his love, Kristen, the perfect engagement ring, at a jewelry store in Santa Barbara, California. A 10,000 diamond enticed her. To the couple's astonishment, an anonymous stranger purchased the ring for them and exited the shop with no strings attached. Even more astonishing, the buyer turned out to be Paul Walker,

with whom Kyle had struck up a conversation earlier that day before the pair had left the shop. Store clerk Irene King kept Walker's involvement a secret for almost a decade but following the actor's sad death in 2013 irene felt the world needed to know about the actor's generosity walker's selfless nature just proves the world lost him far too soon i mean imagine like he didn't owe that person anything but going in thinking that is a lot of money. Maybe to him that was less, you can't assume,

but maybe to him that meant less to him and just saw, I'm going to help you. I mean, you know, that's even, you can't compare, but planning something out is also so beautiful with that kindness, but also just on a whim being like,

yeah, I'll do that for someone. I mean, how nice is that? Oh, that is gorgeous. I always fantasize like when i have multi-millions how am i going to be nice to people like with my money yeah i love acts of kindness it's the same as you know the trend where people like pay for the order at the drive-thru like stuff like that that would make someone's day i cry i mean it's so nice it's i love little acts of kindness.

And that, personally for me, shows the character of an individual. Yeah. Rather than all the money they have or all the nice houses they have, it's that. Yeah, absolutely. What else do you have?

Do you have any more? So I have Emma Watson. She's a charitable lady and she became a UN Goodwill Ambassador in 2014 and has championed the un's woman he for she campaign so in this campaign she encourages everyone whether male or female to participate in change and action against negative labeling to achieve gender equality oh my gosh fascinating she's really taking like a philanthropic turn. Yeah. And using what she has, her platform for goodness.

She's very influential. She is. And she's very well spoken as well. I think she's a very good role model to young men. She's very intelligent, very respectful. She's very accepting as well. Yeah. Which I think is so important because although she is young, you know, she's not our generation.

So it's good to have someone in that platform giving people, the younger generation, such a big influence and a positive one at that. Yeah, I love that. Okay. Love him or hate him. And a lot love and a lot hate. But Johnny Depp, while while shooting pirates of the caribbean

dead men tell no tales set a course for lady silento children's hospital in brisbane australia dressed as captain jack sparrow the oscar nominated actor got into character and surprised the ill children along with co-star Stephen Graham, Depp spent over a few hours with the patients and their families. This is one act of kindness that perfectly sums up the saying, not all treasure is silver and gold. Oh, that's lovely. I mean, I love him.

And personally, I quite like him. Yeah. I like him. But I thought that was just... That's really kind. It's a real beautiful thing to do you know have you watched that film it's the one with i can't with robin williams then and he dresses up like as a clown and he goes into this children's hospital i think it's called patch adams i haven't seen that seen it i've not got connection it's cool and he dresses up as like a clown and goes in to like amuse the kids and make them, you

know, and I'm just like, it's just such, it is such a kind thing to do and selfless thing to do. Yeah, I love that. Okay. So do you have any more, darling? No. Debrief dilemmas. Okay, so this week, of course, we're doing some dilemmas to do with

good role models or role models in general yeah and we've got a few nice dilemmas a few nice on our hands okay so i'm gonna kick off hey girls this is so funny quick side note i was on a walk the other day and scanned the qr code i won't say where I was for privacy reasons. And it came to a podcast. And I've been obsessed ever since. They've worked! Yay! We did this like a year ago.

Yeah. Love it. I was so happy when I read this. But I'm glad I did because it came at a very good time for me. So my sister and I are fairly close and and we speak often and do get along, but we are completely different. I love her, and I know she loves me. See, she is five years older than me, and I'm 24.

So she's 29? Oh, yeah. Yeah, 19. And her life is completely different to mine. She is completely settled with her husband. She has a beautiful little girl who's three and she enjoys her weekends in the park or doing some antique stores shopping.

Whereas my weekends consist of shots, random hookups, dancing and a lot of embarrassing Instagram stories. I love my life and I know she loves hers, but it's completely different. Here goes my dilemma. Her and her husband are wanting to go away on a honeymoon as they didn't manage to do it after the wedding.

This honeymoon is going to be two months long. She has asked me if I can look after her three-year-old little girl for that time. We don't have family in the same country and she doesn't have a lot of friends like me to ask. I try to explain to her that our lives are very different and that I'm not sure I would be the right choice. She responded saying, I'm sure you'll step up and be a good role model.

I'm 100% sure I will not be a good one and not gonna lie, nor do I want to be one. I'm young, I work from home and when I do have free time, I want to be with my friends or at the pub or out, out. Staying at home for two months sounds like utter hell. I love my niece.

I really do. But I don't know how to tell my sister that there is no way I want to do this on God's earth. What should I do? Thanks, girls. I really need some help. That's hard.

Right. That's really hard because also, like, I know. If my sister asked me that, I'd be like, firstly, are you sure because fucking hell i've not got one maternal instinct but two months is a long time it's not

for the weekend it's for two months two months is a long time i'm also like are you sending me money not gonna lie yeah if she was like i'll expense it i'd be more inclined if she was like, I'll expense it. I'd be more inclined. If she was like, I'll send you a budget for food shops. Yeah, because I'm like, I'm bloody taking care of... She's not seven. She's not 12. She's three. She requires a lot of attention.

She requires a lot of help. Like, you'll have to get... But what could you do with her? The issue is, if this was me, i would grin and bear it i know for a fact i'd get the guilt trip from my parents being like yeah well you need to do it and i'm gonna have to yeah these two months of my life i'm gonna have to do it yeah but this girl has said she does not want to do it under any circumstance and i'm like okay but i don't want to advise you darling it's hard because did she say her family aren't in?

Yeah, she says she has no, we don't have family in the same country. Okay. And she doesn't have a lot of friends like me. Okay. Well, if I can lie, I would never lie. It'd be hard to ask my friend. That's hard. That's really hard.

Because I'm thinking, can she, you know, know if she had family it's so much easier if she had friends it'd be like could you just take jump around for a weekend yeah yeah that's quite scary though i don't know i feel like if you're not gonna do it you're gonna have to be firm but i also feel like how about your husband's family her husband yeah maybe if that's an option but also if you're not gonna do it i think you have to be i don't know personally i don't know because it is your life and you do have to be selfish you know you do have to put yourself first but like i just wish it was for a short amount of time two months is a long time i'm thinking i know you're saying you're not wanting to do it

and I get that, but why don't you compromise? Well, living, this whole universe is about compromise. Yeah. So why don't you go back to her and be like,

look, I'd love to spend time with little Jenny. I would love it. I could think of nothing better. I'm really excited for this. Obviously, I know you don't think, could think of other things better.

I know you could. Yeah. But just play up to her. Be like, you you know I'm so excited for this time yeah two months is a long time though you know I'm prepared to maybe do two weeks oh god that sounds bad no I would yeah maybe two month honeymoon is also Darren's family look after her yeah yes go go in Darren's pair are they around or yeah or go in with a contingency plan be or even offer like look i'll do two weeks someone else take for two weeks i'll do another two weeks yeah alternate yeah like or is there any way that a honeymoon could be shorter

two months is a long honeymoon. So you could be like, I'll do it for a month if you make your honeymoon a month. Yeah, yeah. There are compromises to be had here. And there is also a solution to everything. And also, I don't think you're... I think it would be outright wrong to say I'm not going to look after her for any of the time.

Yeah. But I don't think you're wrong to say, bloody hell, that's a long time to look after a child. Considering you're 24, I don't know about finance situations, but I know you work. So it's not like you can just look after her all day. 100%.

You need to pay the bills, you know. Yeah, 100%. So I think try going with a compromise, but... Yeah, I think that's a good idea. It's a big ask your sister's asking you. It is, yeah. Oh my God, if my sister asked me that, I'd be like, woo. I've got a lot to do. That's's scary that's frightening yeah okay good luck yes good luck do you have one i do

so i have hi girls i've just started a management position at a new job it's a significant step up for me i made my first mistake at work a few days ago and unfortunately didn't handle myself well in front of my co-workers and now feel like they've lost all respect for me so much so that my manager told me that i'm not a good role model to my team and i feel so awful i don't know whether to address the situation with my team or just move forward leading with a good example please help i'm stressing that's hard and she hasn't said what happened okay from like if we're going from personalities because again we talked recently about this but avoidant personalities or like confrontational personalities i'd go head on yeah and be like pull your team aside it doesn't need

to be beefy no it doesn't need to be dramatic just be like guys i feel i didn't handle that well the other day and i just want to apologize because i think it's really important to be transparent yeah the best team and relationships are built off trust and i don't want you to feel like you don't trust me or at least recognize that i can make mistakes because i'm human yeah and i know that i messed up and i am not proud of how i handled that and in the future i go i wanting to go forward with a higher yes example example expectation you know yeah i don't think i don't think all things are lost here no but i would like try go about it pretty quick i would say ignoring it is making it worse yeah i think so because also it makes you look proud yeah because if like i

was working with a manager and they fucked up royally and then just acted like nothing happened i'd be like well that it just feels like you don't care yeah yeah i think so i definitely think humility and being humble is something and i think it's a good you can make this like a teaching point being like look everyone fucks up yeah so please don't feel like your mistakes are also going to be handled harshly by me because i've just made one yeah lovely learn that like everyone does this we're all human we've slipped up but it's how you come back from it so i want to take accountability you know i think you've hit the nail on the head there yeah i think that's perfect i think you've got this i think there's nothing to you know and you will

be a good role model because speaking to them like that shows that you're a good role model yes yeah not everything's lost yet don't stress absolutely to eat okay so this week i have one i have one so ping pong you know okay so my ache this week to do with like role models i'm gonna give it like as an example yeah imagine you're at a dinner party and the classic game is if you had a dinner party and you got three guests who are famous you could they could be a dead or alive who would you choose it's that game and i choose my options and people go oh really oh you asked me for my you're not coming yeah you don't have to interact with them you're nfr i've had this so many times now i've had this so many times so i'll give an example and they're like really and i'm just like what no you know you were never invited anywhere now

you and you oh you thought you were coming that's hilarious i know that's funny and i i always struggle with the two others but the one undoubtedly joan mcnally oh she's always my first dinner guest yeah she'd be popular yes make me chuckle yeah i know she'd be loving the wine like fantastic be great 100 what's your ick for this week my ick this week is on a similar vein make me chuckle I know she'd be loving the wine fantastic 100% what's your ick for this week my ick this week is on a similar vein a holier than thou attitude

where you go oh I'm gonna do oh I would never do that then do I love when people are saying why am I ick oh I would never oh you did that

I would never do that thank god you were amazing oh well fucking hell. Thank goodness for you. I'm in the presence of utter grace. My Lord and Saviour. Jesus. Literally, people who walk around like they float.

I'm like, come on. Or if we make a mistake. Oh my God. Why did you do that? Oh, no. I'm coming to you because I'm airing my stressors. Yes, yes. Don't then be like, oh yeah, I could do that? Oh, no. I'm coming to you because I'm airing my stressors. Yes, yes.

Don't then be like, oh, yeah, I could do that better. No. Well, I could do it better now. Yes. Yeah. Very that. Very that. Okay.

So it's question time. And this week, I believe I'm serious. Yes. And I'm silly. Okay. So I'm going to kick us Yes. And I'm silly. Okay. So I'm going to kick us off. Kick us off. Again, all in the same realm of the role models.

Okay. Now, Keir to LaH. Do you think having a role model as an adult is equally as important as having one as a child? And wife? I would say would say no okay go on it's interesting because i feel like i feel like role models are quite necessary when you're growing up because you're finding attributes and you're finding yourself and you're finding your personality in the way you are and i feel like looking to certain people for examples of that around you are very good yeah shaping. Shaping your morals.

Yes. Yeah. And also it's fun when you're younger to be like, I want to be just like them. And I think that's really nice. Yeah. When you're older, you know yourself a lot better. And I feel like I'm all for taking inspiration. When you see someone do something, you go, wow, that's really inspiring.

But I wouldn't necessarily say that they then become a role model. Yeah. Okay. but I wouldn't necessarily say that they then become a role model yeah okay like it but I feel like as adults we take inspiration from loads of people in everyday walks of life yeah I think like I feel like I'm inspired constantly by people around me yeah and learn so much from people around me but I feel like role models almost puts people on pedestals. Yeah, okay. And I feel like the inspiration I take from people, I feel like I know them very well and I really appreciate it, appreciate what they're doing.

And I feel like I idolise them less and more respect them. Yeah. I don't know, what do you think? No, I completely agree with that. I think it's so important, you know, growing up, this whole role model term isn't just your celebrity fantasy. It's, you know, parenting and it's how you're brought up and your surroundings and it's nature versus nurture

and all that kind of stuff. Yes. And then I think it's different when you grow up because a lot of you has been shaped, but also it can be changed. And I think a good role model is I mean for example having good influences in my life have changed me in the last few years yes and I you know I am an adult ah you know I am yeah yeah but I think having good people around me

maybe that's not a role model then maybe not I don't know you know for example having arch in my life has definitely shaped different parts of me that's made me a better person i don't know if that's role model or if that's i don't know yeah yeah but i think it's important to still have people that make you a better version of yourself yes 100 i completely agree yeah yeah okay so tell me the same my silly question is tell me would you rather have everyone look up to the drunkest version of you as a role model oh no or have no one respect you or take you seriously ever nah drunk me drunk me is a bit of a legend me is fantastic bit of a fucking honestly honestly anyone out there get me one. I'm a cheap date. Only in

that respect. The one time I'm cheap out is when it comes to alcohol. It's the only time is alcohol. Give me one drink. Oh my god, I'm off me trotter. Oh, it's genuinely like

Can I pull it back? Oh, I'll pull it back. Lazarus. Lazarus. And will i have fun oh i'll be having fun oh you'll be having i've genuinely only think i've ever seen you hung over once in my life hot tub night yeah worst guys i warn you that was never ever ever do it hot tubs just make you see so dehydrated worst hangover ofover of my life. It was like freaky fucking Friday because I'm usually the one like hanging out my ass and you and I felt fine. But you didn't. I was like, what in the fresh fuck is going on? I couldn't.

I couldn't open my eyes. I've never experienced anything. I couldn't open my eyes. My eyebrows were buzzing like my eyeballs, my whole head. I couldn't even move my head like in a quick motion. We had to bring you breakfast. You had to bring it in my whole head. I couldn't even move my head, like in a quick motion. We had to bring you breakfast. You had to bring it in my own house. To your room.

Humiliating. It was so, I genuinely was like, it almost felt like an amusement attraction. Someone was like, Kitty's hungover. And I was like, what? Everyone came up to see me then. Obviously, everyone came up to your room, just stared at you.

You're like, hi. It's like, guys, it's happened. It's happened. But I, are people, yeah, have a fun. Like, look, look, look. I'm not saying to admire being drunk. I'm saying to admire, be free, be happy, enjoy the world. Limitless.

Limitless. Yes. No fears. But if people are like, oh, no, she's a waste of time excuse me get the fuck out no i'm not having that how about you surely no i think the drunkest depends how drunk depends what scale we're talking you know if we're talking about me a bit merry and also actually recently you said something to me in a podcast the smile the smile and i've started to notice that because sometimes i i'll clock myself in photos and i'm just the happiest fucking clam you've ever seen in your life katie

when she's drunk just smiles i just like manic yeah and i genuinely like caught myself once like in the mirror and i was like why i was literally like you're like why am I so happy by myself like unprompted in the mirror like it's alright no one's around no one's around to enjoy this simmer down simmer down my friend

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