The Debrief - Retail Drama & The Dalai Lama

Episode Date: May 21, 2023

Welcome to the Debrief! We are Kitty and Katie, two gals trying to navigate life in our 20's living in London and wanting to bring you along for the ride. We're here to cover everything from nights out, to career goals, to bad dates, and everything in between. We hope you enjoy, Monday’s are about to get a whole lot better.Want to debrief with us? Email [e-mail] or DM us on instagram @the.debriefpodcastLots of love,Kitty and Katie x Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

🎵 Hey! TV briefers! Good morning, happy Monday! Happy Monday, I know! Let's start that week right, my little chickens! How's everyone's week been? I want to hear it

have you been out sunbathing? have you? because I've got a tan line oh my god I've actually got a tan line the bad one because I was wearing

a bit of a funky Zara off the shoulder a bit of an asymmetric number you're such a bitch for this you're such a bitch we were out in the sun for literally like,

what, 20 minutes, 30 minutes, an hour. Yeah, you're jealous, aren't you? In the sun.

You're jealous? Yeah, I am. Livid. I'm green with envy. No, you're not, you're red with envy.

Les, did you get burned? I actually didn't get burned. Oh, that's good. Which I was, I was quaking in my little boots, but I think I actually wasn't, I was wearing a t-shirt, so I think it was hard for me to actually get burnt in a t-shirt.

Yes, completely. Especially, it was a white t-shirt as well so I was reflecting. Oh you were, okay. I was reflecting the heat. Oh, whereas I was wearing black I think, wasn't I? Yeah you were. I was, yeah. Yeah you were.

And the sun just It was a bit of a bronze baby. Bronze babe. Bronze babe. The sun just took to you like bit of a bronze baby. Bronze babe. Bronze babe. The sun just took to you like a duck to water. Yeah, it does. Some people just absolutely live for the sun. And I'm one of them.

Yep. I live for it. I love the sun. If the sun has one fan, it's you. It's me. It's you. Are you not a big fan of the sun? I find it a little bit stressful.

As we know, my complexion is quite fair. Fucking English Rosie. You said it, not me. So I find the sun quite stressful because it's just welcome for Burntown. Yeah. I'm going to have a sip of my matcha, Starbucks matcha, by the way. So this is my order. Almond iced matcha. You know it's the summer when that starts coming out. Oh, yeah. Kids used to get, what was it you used to get

from the coffee shop? Extra hot oat matcha with a dash of agave syrup. Do you know what? We've gotten progressively, I feel like I've gotten progressively worse since living in London where it's like,

I'll just get a latte. Then all of a sudden it's become a skinny latte. Now, in the winter especially, it's an extra hot skinny latte with cinnamon, but if you could put the cinnamon in the shot before you pour the milk, that would be just brilliant.

I used to be humiliated asking for the order. Honestly, I feel like the longer you live in London, the more pompous you get about your order. You start off with a fucking black Americano and then... You'll be getting a lavender latte.

The London fog. You do. That used to be my order. Black Americano. And now look at me. Look at you. Twat. Utter twat.

So am I. Right, let's get into it. I think we'll just straw right into it this week. Yeah, andle in. Because we had a great week last week just straw right into it this week. Yeah, and Berlin. Because we had a great week last week. We've had a lovely week.

Fabulous weekend together. Fabulous. Someone said girly weekend. Hands up. Yep. Holla. My mantra is, you ready? I am.

Yeah. I am. It is, I am my own biggest fan. Yeah. Because I am. yeah it is i am my own biggest fan yeah because i am i love that i absolutely love that yeah and tell me why you needed that this week i've been really excited all week just loving life yeah and i think that that good energy i've had is because i'm literally like oh my my God, look at me doing these things. And how well am I doing it? I've actually been doing loads of workouts and the app I use to do my workouts, at the end of every workout, it prompts like a gratitude. Oh, that's lovely.

It says three things you're grateful about for today. So I'm my own biggest fan. I'm my own biggest fan. But I'm my own biggest fan. Like literally, there's no one like me and that's so exciting. There's only one Katie Leach. There's only one Katie Leach and you can't top her, can you? Many try.

Many try. People try. They do not succeed. They do not succeed. No, and they never will, darling. And I have a point on that as well. I love that because I think sometimes, I know we both do, put a lot of pressure on ourselves career-wise,

fitness-wise, health-wise, everything-wise. I think we're both quite driven and quite focused. So to say that we're our own biggest fans is really comforting that you know that there's someone always supporting you. Yeah. I think that's great. It's someone always supporting you yeah yeah i think that's great it's really like it's really been like a nice settling kind of mantra not like a pump me up kind of mantra mantra i'm like looking at your mantra i'm like what's i'm like mantra but it's been really nice i've really really enjoyed that this week instead of like a get up and go it's like i've got the motivation yeah because I'm my own biggest fan. Gorgeous.

Anything I do, I literally make dinner, I'm like, well fucking done. Well done. The little mini Katie biggest fan has got a flag like,

you made the dinner. You made the dinner. Chicken quesadilla. Love it. I love it. I'm ready. Okay. Or am I?

Let me hit you with it. Yeah. I'm ready. Okay. Or am I? Let me hit you with it. Yeah. Hit me. So my mantra this week, short and sweet, my success is inevitable. Oh! Yes! Kabooga! Karabooka!

That is some spicy words. I smashed it there. I smashed it. No, you did. You did. I feel like a fucking mongrel. I smashed it there. I smashed it. No, you did. You did. I feel like a fucking mongrel. I saw your ass wiggle. I saw it.

It twitched. It was fair. I genuinely, fuck me, that's a good one. And I chose it this week. Well, as you know, I've had a few auditions this week. So I think saying to myself, my success is inevitable. Absolutely. Something I always do as well time of need time of stress. I do to one of my

really good mentors teaches me a really good breathing technique when you feel in times of stress or just something where you need to feel relaxed. And you've got tension. Yeah, you do, I'm gonna do it now. So you do two deep breaths, I'm gonna explain it first so I'm not like stuck in the breath. You do two deep breaths and then hold the breath and then let it out through the mouth. So in through the nose, two breaths, hold, one breath out through the mouth so I'll show you. show you okay so it's like okay so when you take that breath you actually have more room to take another so that's what i've been using this week yeah doing two breaths in and a breath out and

saying that my success is inevitable because i think however the audition goes however i feel the workshop the movement the voice the boys' class went, I succeeded anyway. My success is inevitable. Absolutely. I succeeded the fact that I got here today and that I achieved what I did. Absolutely. And that's having the confidence to get up

and smash it. I love that. Do you? I really love that. Thank you. I think that is a brilliant, brilliant, brilliant one. Let's debrief. Let's just get into it, girls. I'm so bloody losing. Let's just get into it.

So, the weekend has gone off. Fabulous, that is my silver quiz. Fabulous, because I'm a little revealed. Let's start off on Saturday. Tell me what we did. Didn't we have a great time? Saturday was a bloody lovely day. It was. It was so lovely.

So Archie was away. He was. So we had a lovely girls weekend. We had a girly weekend. Which, bloody bloody hell was she overdue I felt like I don't think Kitty and I talk so much shit

we talk to each other constantly but there were some things we were chatting about that I didn't know about really deep shit that I was kind of like Kitty what's going on what's going on right now oh my god we kind of joke, Katie, what's going on right now? Oh my God, we kind of choked together. I know, but it's when you have those lovely moments

where you do get to talk more and learn more about each other, each other's family or relationships or past friendships and stuff like that. It was really interesting. I felt the same. It was such an overdue time to have girly time. I mean, the reason we went out for a completely girly weekend anyway was to have a chin-chin cheers to the debrief itself. A hip-hip hurrah.

A hip-hip hurrah to the debrief. Absolutely. It's a bit of time to just, again, recognise our own successes and everything going on. So we started off having a few drink-a-boos with friends first, didn't we?

Yes, we did. I helped myself to a lovely Aperol spritz. Oh, what did you do? It's one of those that the pub near us has like an outdoor bit,

but obviously in the winter it's filled with heaters and the cover is firmly on. However, we walk in there, covers off guys, summer's started. Summer's started, fuck me. It was like a beer garden. It was great, it was so nice.

It was gorgeous. So we met with two friends there, which was lovely. Lovely to catch up. You know who you are. Honestly, gorgeous. And it was so nice, we were only there for one drink yeah we were heading off for dinner yeah we were starving we were starving hungry hungry mama hungry mama um we made a uh little business deal shook hands said that we'll promote each other's

successes which was lovely absolutely um. So that was Saturday. Yep. Had a few drinkies. Went to Santa Maria. Santa Maria. Guys. Bloody lovely pizza. Really nice, really chilled.

You had nap roll. Yeah. I had a cheeky gin and sonic. I was slaughtered though. I was slaughtered. I was quite drunk. That's maybe why you got things out of me, some information. Yeah. I don't know what happened. You were vulnerable. I was quite drunk. That's maybe why you got things out of me, some information.

I don't know what happened. You were vulnerable. I think it was because we barely ached. We were actually talking about this earlier. Does anyone ever like when you know you're going for like a slap up meal, you kind of like either have like an 11 o'clock lunch. So then you have all the way till dinner to get yourself really hungry so you can really enjoy the meal. And feel you deserve it. Absolutely. So I don't really recall eating a lot that day and then we went for drinks and then we were drinking on an empty stomach and I was like

I was away with the fairies. Weren't we just? See the thing I love though is that our pizzas were very different. Kitty's pizza was seasoned with lots of vegetables and spinach. There was green on my pizza, guys. Lots of green. God forbid. Kitty fucking goes. You should have seen her. She was against the wall, hand on the chest.

She was like, what is that bullshit around your plate? And then they bring out margarita. Like margarita. I'm like, over here. Katie, will you have pineapple on a pizza? I've never asked you that. I've never asked you, and I'm scared to ask you. Are you fucking serious?

You don't like pineapple on pizza, do you? I don't. Oh, no, I don't. Oh, thank God, Katie. That's ridiculous. Thank God, I thought you were going to say, oh, I could be accustomed. Do you like pineapple at all, actually? I like be accustomed. Do you like pineapple at all actually?

Um, I like pineapple juice. Do you know some people say pineapple? What do you mean? I say pineapple. Yeah. But some people go pineapple. I'm like, oh, pineapple. Pineapple. And I'm like dickhead. What if someone called it like a piney-app-a-lay? So you go out with Archie for dinner and then you're getting pizzas and he's like, actually, if there was a possible way to get some piney-app-a-lay on my pizza,

you're like, oh, what's that? And then it comes and it's pineapple. Would you give it a go? I think I'd probably laugh and then look at him because Archie does pronounce things wrong. He does anyway. No, no, oh my God, what is it?

And he always puts the emphasis on different words. He throw. He throw. He stands dead. I'm like always puts the emphasis on different words he throw he throw he stands dead i'm like it stands dead it's he throw so so if he did i'd probably be like class of dodge i wouldn't be shocked i'd love it is there something i there's something i say that's not right oh no there is something that you pronounce wrong now that's ridiculous that's so if you haven't seen no so if you have a singular you have your tough your one singular tough but sorry sorry my my tooth really hurts it's my tooth so katie's like my tooth my tooth I'm like what are you my tooth

I've got teeth you can point at your tooth all night but I'm never going to agree I've got teeth and me tooth right okay

yeah I'll leave you with that one I'll leave you so after we went out for a pizza we went back for drinks that are flat which was so nice really nice

we got to catch up yeah and all of that and we've had quite a few flat parties now we had a Christmas do. We had a Halloween do. We had, you know, just a do-to-do.

Didn't we? Just loving life. The party's where we are. Yeah, always. Absolutely. What doesn't start till at work in... Went back for drinks. Yeah.

And it's interesting, really, because we've had quite a few nights where we say, fuck it, should we just invite our friends over to come over for drinks. Yeah. And it's interesting, really, because we've had quite a few nights where we say, fuck it, should we just invite our friends over to come over for drinks? Yeah. Rather than going out. Yeah. Because we create quite a vibe.

We get the candles on, we get the music on. And the lighting's dim. Yeah, all of that. So my question's kind of on from this, because I know our friend has a very strong opinion on clubbing versus house parties.

Yes. Yeah. And staying in, having a bit of fun with your friends in your environment. Yeah. Or going out and... Letting rip. Letting rip. Yeah. Especially you in a nightclub fart. guys guys guys i think i but who doesn't me you're lying you're lying the music is so loud the music is so loud literally who's gonna know honestly guys if you haven't tried just letting a little toot out in the club just letting one slip yeah i'd really recommend it like next time you go out think of me and do it and let me know because genuinely it's quite liberating take a video of yourself and send it into the db and you know what i wouldn't be able to hear it would i i wouldn't be able to i wouldn't i wouldn't guess i wouldn't know no you wouldn't know

beauty of it i know you love it Are you more of a house party girl? Are you more of a clubbing girl? Because I'm actually kind of 50-50 on this. So I think house party is great if you want to shag. Ah. I think if you want to pull. Do you mean meet someone to shag or? Yeah, I would, both actually.

Or if you come with someone and you want to shag, you're at a house, slip away. If you want a boogie and maybe a little kiss and a good time, go clubbing. However, one of my favourite nights we've ever had with our friends was in our flat. That was one of my favourite, if not my favourite night that we've ever had with our friends.

It was so good. So what are you saying? I think house parties... Gun to the head right now, Katie. House party. Okay. I love getting dressed up. I love going out, like having a few drinks, having a little boogie.

But I also kind of hate afters. If we're having a house party, it's like one long afters, which is fine if you know you're not going to go out. Yeah, Fez, I know what you mean. So I'm happy to stay up like all hours of the morning just chit-chatting, getting to know people. Especially if you then get introduced to someone at a house party that you fancy. day up like all hours of the morning just chit-chatting getting to know people especially if you then get introduced to someone at a house party that you fancy yeah and you know you're gonna see them again because it's the same friendship group you can get a little bit tipsy get to know them on a deep level so i think if you're looking to put the graft in and have a bit

of a flirt and probably a get yeah and like a shag. Yeah. House party. Okay. House party's the way. Okay, I like that. I think as well it's also kind of seasonal. Yes. I think, I quite liked house parties this year

in the colder months. We had a great Christmas party. I loved our Christmas party. We had like all the snacks. We'd made gingerbread. And it was really nice actually. I likedbread. And it was really nice, actually. I liked that. And it's fucking frozen in December.

You never want to go clubbing in winter. So I don't want to be wearing skimpy stuff in my black boots. I don't. There's the opportunity as well to just get changed and just get a bit more comfortable. As the evening goes on, you'll be like, oh, time to put my moussey pyjamas on. Yeah.

Yeah. You are 100% a house party girl yeah because that's the thing you don't like about clubbing that you can't can't really chat

you can't really chat and I feel like the way the way to win me over is good chat good chat so all you single men out there

start working on it start working on it yeah get those chat up lines in start working on it. Start working on it. Yeah, get those chat up lines in. Start working on it. If you can make me laugh once. You are the definition of being laughed into bed. Absolutely. It's so easy. People, do you know what? I'm sick of this narrative

that I'm really picky. If you can just make me laugh, I'm literally lying. I'm surprised you haven't got into bed with me. You just made me laugh. I'm literally lying. I'm surprised you haven't got into Beber May. Yeah.

So, Katie. Yeah. Tell me about what happened last week. Last week was very exciting. Yeah. I was at work for most of last week. Yeah, cool. I had a good time.

Managed to attract a few of the freaks in. Of course you did. I think anyone who works in retail can vouch. There's just some days where no one likes you. Oh one likes you really i can i could smile at someone they'd be like why are you looking at me like that did you have bad customers i had i had a few interesting customers okay go on a woman came in and wanted this specific um item of clothing it white, it had a small foundation stain on it. Obviously, as people try things on, it's like classic, there are going to be stains and stuff.

So we usually have these like little baby wipes that just wipe them right out. Wipe them right out. You're like, oh, gorgeous. So this woman, she was quite forward in being like, I will buy this, but you need to wipe this out. Before I could even offer as well. I was going to offer, but she was like, you need to wipe this out. I said, offer as well i was gonna offer but she was like you need to wipe this out yeah of course did she say it in a nice way no right okay she's like you need to instantly that would annoy me and i'm like okay it's like why

have you come with aggro like why i'm just trying to help you my friend yeah okay so then um i then go searching high and low through my workplace for these wipes. I can't find them. We're out of wipes. Oh, God. We're out of wipes. And I said, I'm so sorry. Oh, darling, bless you. I can't find any wipes. I'm so sorry.

And she goes, are you serious? Seriously? Are you serious? And I said, unfortunately. I was like, yeah, I'm really sorry. So I offered to sell the item at a discount because it had the stain on. That's so sweet of you. Which we're not particularly meant to do.

No. But I was like, do you know what? She's so annoyed. I was like, look, I'll give it to her at a discount. And then she turns to me and she goes, so seriously, where do you wash your hands? Are you telling me you don't wash your hands? Wash it under the sink now. What?

So that is me. I felt like I was in some... You know those things where people wash their clothes in the river? The little thing. So I'm like, oh my God. On the board. I start scrubbing at this stain.

Something drops from the top of the sink. Like something. Something drops onto the stain of the sink. Like something, something drops onto the stain that was like black. Oh God. Like, like, like, like,

like, like the stain. Onto the top. Onto the top. The stain gets 10 times worse, guys. I'm not domesticated. I don't know how to get stains out.

So I'm sat there like just scrubbing it. It's getting a lot worse. I'm like, bloody hell. They then come in. They're like, she's kicking off that you're taking too long so I'm coming back out I said I'm so sorry show her show her the top with the stain that was like so much worse I said look I can I'll give it to her a discount um but that's all I can do I said I can't get this stain out like I'm really really sorry so she was well, you can put it on hold for me.

I'm going to come back in at the end of the day. And hopefully you can work a little bit harder and get that stain out. Excuse me, cheeky bitch. And I was like, OK. And then she left. I don't actually know because I then, my shift finished at like three. So I don't know whether she came back in. I hope she didn't for my other co-workers but she was so rude so rude retail is uh an absolute

shit show at the best well no it's i it's not the worst job like i really like my job i just think the customers there are some customers that you're just like can we not it's not your job to be faffing about and doing all of this and fucking washing items in the back like you're not bloody laundrettes are you i was like i am not qualified for this i literally i can't i have barely it stains out my own clothes guys being face to face with them as well when they're in your face literally because i was sat there like i could i can't really hide in the back because it i have to tell her that i can't get it out and i also now have to show her that the stain is like 10 times worse oh darling did you get scared i was absolutely shitting it because they were like like katie like please like she's

she's saying you're taking too long like you need to come out and i'm sat there like literally like i've worked in retail since i was like 16 when you think you've seen it all you haven't but i really do feel like i've seen it all at this point yeah so people being rude is like the least of my worries you are really good at uh managing it like i've heard some awful stories that just people say bloody rude some people really are genuinely I mean as well I used to work

in a coffee shop oh my god and I think that was the first it was rather eye opening for me how shit people talk to you

I was like I don't really know what to say right now it's really remarkable isn't it because I found that I've never

ever been rude to people like i wouldn't dare behind the tills or anything like that like why would like and especially when you're especially if you work in retail or at coffee shops but i've never also seen people like treat um workers badly but then it's like when i'm working and then people are just so rude. I'm like, what? I don't know if it's a London thing. Maybe it is. But London works fast, right? London's on constant time in the sense of no one's waiting for anything.

We see people running on tubes so they don't have to wait two minutes. It's quick, quick, quick. No one has time to wait. They move. Literally. I respect that that i respect everyone has busy lives yeah i mean you know i wouldn't want my time wasted either but if you can see that i'm genuinely trying to help you for example when i did work at this coffee shop yeah you know someone would come in and say oh can i get a salad or such and such takeaway yes absolutely of course when i'm in a rush yeah they don't i'm not fucking sat on my batting yeah i'm not i'm not on the tech chair right now just

lying back getting my tits out getting ready for a tan what do you think i'm doing i'm getting the fucking twin twin tweezers things what they're called tongs yeah the tongs and scooping your fucking salad out with the keyboard and your fetter without the fetter that you asked not for yeah that really annoys me because i'm like, you haven't given... Well, can you be quick? Can you actually... I think for me it was a bit of a harsh reality because I've never been treated so rudely that now, from the other side,

it makes me extra nice to anyone in a coffee shop or in hospitality or in retail. I've worked across a few different retail companies and it's the same shit everywhere you go. What would you, the one that you're in now, as in how the customers treat you, would you say this is the worst how customers treat you? No. I used to work in healthcare. I used to work in pharmacy. The people could be vile, however it's healthcare. So in some senses- It's kind of understandable. I can understand where they're coming from. And the urgency.

And why if there's a delay they're extremely annoyed. Do I think people threatening to hit me with their walking sticks? I'm fair. No. But did it make you go quicker? Honestly, better be ready in five minutes or you'll be getting the back of this and swung it up. Oh my god! I was like, please! What the hell? These are are elderly people I'm like what I'm like someone sprightly I'm like bloody hell but I feel like

their reasoning for being so irate was more justified than the job I'm in now where it's literally like

it's not the end of the world if you don't get this product completely I want to make it clear that I'm not opposed to a complaint

I'm not opposed to say oh sorry sorry excuse me however it can be done in a nice way there's a way to make yourself heard and it makes me so sad when i see people treat others with that dismissive i am better than you my time is more precious than yours. Yes. How the hell do you know? I was, again, this was when I worked in pharmacy. I thought I was, I think they thought they'd muted their side of the phone. They were trying to get a hold of like where their prescription was or something.

I can't remember. It was sent late from the surgery. So we needed to chase her. This one was screaming down the phone for me and i was like like how useless are you oh lovely you can't do your job and i'm like lovely but can you just give me five minutes she's like yeah yeah um and she thought she'd mused herself and she's like this fucking bitch can't do her job right oh she's so fucking useless this and that and i was literally sat there like hello hey i can still hear you i was like you might wanna hi this is katie you might want to put

yourself on mute girl oh my god some people but then i think people just generally have no filter i think some people that that is so true some people have no filter i was on the plane back from australia yeah and i was sat in between two babies. Unfortunately, but thankfully, the mothers were both sat next to me. And they were delightful. And I thought to myself, you are the motherfuckers traveling 13 and a half hours from Australia to, you know, Doha with a baby. And they were up and down like a fart in a bottle. They did not stop.

They did. So I felt them. Whereas I took a cheeky pill. The whole way. So I was fine. Anyway, I wake up to commotion of the mothers looking at each other. And I like take my headphones off. I'm like, what's going on?

And they're like, oh, someone's shouting. I said, what? I then noticed that the baby next to me is crying and upset you know as babies do that is their job in life to cry yeah you know that's what makes them babies yeah you go girl like you know i'm sorry you rock it you get those lungs are moving yeah i then go what what someone said they're like someone's shouting at the baby. I said, shouting at the baby? Fucking hell. I then hear someone

shout from the back of the plane, shut up! I'm like, that Katie, I honestly just sat there in complete horror.

I was like, I was like, what the hell? I'm looking to my left to right and the mother's about like, and I'm like, did I just hear that right the baby's

going again shut up I was like excuse me this is a baby you're talking to excuse me this is a baby I was like some people have no filter anyway a few hours go by they start quacking up again and like shouting, shut up.

And I'm like looking around and I say, who's saying this? I'm like, who is saying this? Because I thought to myself, whoever is saying this is really, really out of touch. Genuinely. Because the mum was doing everything. She was up and down and holding and giving the baby milk and then sweets. It must be such a source of anxiety for parents taking a little child on a flight that long because you don't want to be the parent that has the child that kicks up. So that's just really mean. I know. That's so mean. Shut up!

That is embarrassing. That is embarrassing. Oh, talking about embarrassing. Let's go on to our next section. Hell yeah. Tell me what it is, Katie. Tell me what it is. X of the week.

Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right, I've actually got a few. Good. I've got three ics of the week. How many do you have? Because are we ping-ponging ics this week?

I have two ics and one thing that happened that was so fucking embarrassing for someone else, but I wouldn't necessarily call it an ic. I would just call it unfortunate. Oh, my God. I would say the exact same, but the unfortunate thing happened to me. Stop!

Yes! Stop! I treat you. Oh, my God. I treat you. Okay, let's ping-pong. Yeah. Okay, I'm happened to me. Stop! Yes! Stop! I treat you. I treat you. Okay, let's ping pong. Okay, I'm gonna start. So my first one, oh, oh, this has made me angry. This has made me really annoyed, Katie, actually.

So you know I love my running, love it. Three 10Ks last week and I did 5K, loving it, having a great, great time time I can't take it anymore I cannot take it people run with their dogs I'm like how cute is that how cute yet they cannot

control their dogs oh what I am so angered by this and it seems irrational it seems irrational but it is not oh and they can't they jump on you

they jump on me stop all of them actually there are some of them run next to me like and i'm like oh look i got my fan i got my fans around me i know i'm going quick but some dogs are jumping up on me. There was, no word of a lie, a fucking Great Dane. Huge dogs. Slobbery, big bollocks dogs.

Jumping up on me. I'm like, and the owner's like running, going, aw. Oh, no. No, no, no. Aw. No. Aw. Great Dane's wait a fuckton.

Get your fucking dog and run with your dog. Not that. I'm not doing. I'm not doing chariots of fire with your dog. Get your dog. It really irritates me. And then there was another one. So the next day after.

Yeah. A little shih tzu. I actually do quite like shih tzus. But a little shih tzu. This woman's walking with her dog. Yeah. She's having a coffee date with a friend. Yeah.

That's nice. And they're in my way and I'm running. They can both see me. She doesn't pull the dog. She just leaves the dog. And at this point, I've had enough. I had a little spaniel barking at me, running next to me, like trying to join in between my legs.

Oh, that's hard. Owner didn't do anything. Between your legs? Between my legs. That's dangerous for the doggy. Owner didn't do anything. This is the third Between my legs. That's dangerous for the doggy. Owner didn't do anything. This is the third time. So I went,

oh, excuse me. I know. That was embarrassing. I was like, excuse me? Yeah. Oh, I know. I was livid, Katie.

Livid, right. Ping pong. Go on. That was so good. That was. First thing I saw. Okay, go on. Last Monday.

Fresh, fresh week. Go to the gym. I'm on the treadmill. Go on. Guy in good. First thing I saw. Okay, go on. Last Monday, fresh, fresh week. Go to the gym. I'm on the treadmill. Go on. Guy in front of me has his jacket on the floor. No. He kicks it up into the air and catches it. Oh, quite cool.

No. Oh, no, is this the ick? That's the ick. That's the ick. He literally was like so fucking pleased with himself. I was like, what are you doing? Did he look around?

Yeah. And I was like... He's got a good mantra that day. I was like... He's conceiving. So was that, did it make you cringe? I'm like,

do you think you're slick? Do you think you're slick, big man? And he did. Right. That's me receiving the ping pong. Thank you. Okay, this is revolting. And I think you know

that this gives me the it. When people, and men do it a lot, particularly. Oh, really? And Archie used to do it when we first started dating. And I had to say to him, it's one of my biggest icks. Please never do this. Right, when people either don't blow their nose or haven't coughed or whatever, and they snort in their throats,

I think you are the most revolting, cretin, goblin-like fool I've ever met in my life. Like, they go... I'm like, oh! I'm like, that should be illegal! I was on the train yesterday from Wimbledon,

and it was, like, quite a while, and oh, my gosh, I was just going, you from Wimbledon and it was like quite a while. And oh my gosh, there was this guy next to me, he did it the whole way. I was trembling. I was trembling and I kept looking at him like, please stop doing that, please stop doing that. Right, ready? Go on.

So my next one was Archie and I came to collect you. We went on a long walk. We've been doing this like hot girl walk after dinner with our Diet Cokes. So we have our little Diet Cokes in hand and we're walking along. This guy on a skateboard. Oh no. This guy on a skateboard like jumps off the skateboard, but the skateboard's still running, but he couldn't catch it.

So he's running after his skateboard. No. But he can't like. No. He literally jumps off it. He's like, yeah, cool guy. But then the skateboard starts to turn. So he's like running along to like pick up his skateboard.

I'm like, that is embarrassing. I'm sorry, that's embarrassing. And I was genuinely sat there like, this is the moment where you hope no one's watching, but guess who was? Me, me, and I saw it. Katie Leitch was watching. I saw it and I judged you.

Right. That, that was very true to sound that. I love the eye contact we made. I saw it. And I judged you. Right. That was very true to sound that. I love the eye contact we make when we do it. Okay, so the next one, actually, I did. And it is just so humiliating. So, obviously, I had my audition this week. Yeah. Before I'd even got into the bloody building,

there were these automatic doors. And I couldn't get into it. So I got a bit closer to them. Yeah. They didn't open. I was like, okay like okay I was like what do I do now the cheek press yeah I was like so how much closer everyone inside is watching me I'm like this is humiliating so then I'm like thinking there must be a sense and I'm like, thinking there must be a sensor or something. And I'm like, shit, I'm still not in. I'm like, okay, right, so I've tried the glass,

I've tried the sensor, now I start bloody stamping my fur. Stamping on the floor, creating my own drum, waving my arms, face against the glass. Like you're in the cloakroom. Like I'm in the cloakroom. And then literally the door's not opening. I just see someone on the inside go like that. They point to the side.

I'm like looking. There's a sign that says press the button. Katie, I was humiliated. And I just, I was so embarrassed. I just had to go like, walked in, shuffled in. I was like, where's the bathroom? I went to the bathroom. I was like, I didn't cry, but I was humiliated.

I was absolutely humiliated. But I'm unickable, so it wasn't the egg. Did you cry? I didn't cry, but I was humiliated. I was absolutely humiliated. But I'm unickable, so it wasn't the egg. It was just embarrassing. Yeah, no eggs. I'm unickable. You ready? I went to a class last night. It was the performing class, wasn't it?

Yeah. And I was on the bus on the way back. And it was quite late. It was about like 10. And this guy was on the bus. And I wasn't looking at him. So it was like this. Is it a me cue?

No, no, no, no. So he went to get up at his stop. By this point, like we were near the end destination. Hits the thing. He gets up. He must've had really low jeans. I know.

But his belt got caught on the, under the seat. So when he stood up, he just flashed his bare arse to everyone on the bus. No. To every fucker on the 74. He was literally like, arse out. Like, he went to stand up and it literally, whoop. And I was watching it. I was like, oh my God,

I was like, sir, this is unfortunate for you. I was literally like, I can't, I actually can't. It was so funny. That is so funny. I wouldn't necessarily say it was the it. I was just about to say, I don't even think that's the it. That is honorable. No, I was just about to say, I don't even think that's the it. It's not. That is honourable. What an unfortunate event,

because I could see something like that happening to me. Yeah, it would. It definitely would. I could genuinely see it. Oh, brilliant. It was so funny. Right, we've got to wrap it up,

so let's get on to our quest. Silly and serious questions. Yeah. This week, Katieie you have serious i do yeah my serious question to you is my god okay throwing it down as well okay do you think that someone can ever say that their intentions are different from their actions if they do something wrong oh my gosh okay so for example yeah give me an example if someone cheats on you Yeah, give me an example.

If someone cheats on you, can you really believe them if they say, I never intended to hurt you? Do you think when someone goes on a night out, kisses another girl, but I never wanted to hurt you, do you think they genuinely mean that? Okay. So my opinion on this is pretty clear, actually. Yeah. Especially with the example you've given me i think drunk actions are sober thoughts so i really do think that if someone did something

when they're drunk i think it's because they had the inhibitions to do it yeah they were intoxicated so they did do it yeah they've thought about it before 100 so if again if someone says something when they're drunk and offends you and they're like oh my god like my intention was never to offend you but you did like you said something out of turn again just drunk i also would say that emotions are so much more heightened when you're drunk or whatever yeah and so if they've said something to me maybe it was warranted maybe it's because they did feel like that at the time. I was emotional. I was drunk.

I'm like, but I definitely, you know, if someone said to me something on a night out, like, Oh, I think you can be nasty or something. I'd probably want to know where that's come from because I think that's come

from somewhere. Maybe not just, you know, maybe not as serious as it's come across in that moment. They could just sometimes be like, Oh God, she's a bit savage, you know, but as serious as it's come across in that moment they could just sometimes be like oh god she's a bit savage you know but actually they're drunk so it's come across as more of an intense turn of you're a bit bitchy because you know if someone said to you like i think you can be a bit nasty they can't be like oh my god i never meant that like absolutely

because absolutely why why would you say it yeah do you really think that wouldn't have upset me completely and i think it's a really interesting thing that people say that i think it needs to be reflected on more my intention was never to hurt you but what did you think would happen what did you think would happen then lying cheating all those are inevitably going to hurt me i think it's such a backhanded excuse as well i think so as well because if someone i think it's such a backhanded excuse as well i think so as well because if someone i think it's quite gaslighting actually to say that you can say my intention was never to hurt you but you need to acknowledge that they did come oh completely because that needs to be the first thing that's acknowledged absolutely there needs to be an

apology and an understanding yeah i think it's a great question for this week. Can someone's intentions be different from their actions? I think very much depends on the situation completely, as we've spoken about. But I think that people can have irrational actions and think, why the hell did I do that? That was not my, that's not what I wanted out of it. Because blimey, none of us are perfect yeah um so we all make mistakes but i do think there usually isn't an intention a backbone a

thought that makes you do it yeah absolutely because i think it's stupid to say it was never my intention to hurt you as a full stop response that isn't but oh sorry that was just never my intention to hurt you for me that is as offensive as someone saying i apologize i think no say sorry saying i apologize isn't an apology so backhanded honestly it's very much like a oh i'm sorry you're upset yes completely i said yeah and it's very much like a oh i'm sorry you're upset yes completely yeah and it's very much then gaslighting putting that blame actually back on you yeah i think it's your fault that you're sensitive actually and that you took it that way because that's not how i meant it yeah i think that's a really interesting question and definitely something that i would love to talk about more

um so please write in as well if you have questions to do with that. And situations, because it can be very different depending on circumstances. Yes, absolutely. Let us know. Yeah, let us know. Okay, so I've got my silly question. I'm so excited. It's not completely silly, but I think it's really interesting. Okay.

So there are five love languages. Yes. And we know these love languages, but I'm going to repeat them for our debriefers. Yes. And we know these love languages, but I'm gonna repeat them for our debriefers. Yes. Now, love languages are ways in which you show your love. Yeah. And there are five different ways of doing this. The first one is physical touch,

which is pretty self-explanatory, but that doesn't have to be sexual, like it doesn't. It can also be holding hands. The second one is gifts. So giving and receiving. The third one is acts of service. That means just doing small little things for them. I don't know.

Remembering that they liked chocolate orange. So you pick one up on the way back from work. Fourth one is quality time. And fifth one is words of affirmation. So that is, you look beautiful. Things like that. So I hope that's understood. Now my question of the week is for you.

You have to eliminate one of these love languages and never, ever have it. You have to eliminate it. What would that be? And as an add-on, love language would you do you get to eliminate one and you give one what would it be fuck i would say i would eliminate to receive acts of service wow because i'm trying to think okay i think i would want physical touch okay i would also if i eliminated gifts does that mean that I'd never get a birthday present? Never.

Then. You'd get nothing. I would like a birthday present. No, fuck that. I'd like a card. Yeah. Words of affirmation, I don't want to be guessing how you feel. So I'd have to keep.

Yeah. Quality time. I love quality time. Like, that would be it. So it would boil down to acts of service. But I think very much my love language. What is your love language? That I would keep is acts of service and quality time,

I would say are my top two. So they are your top two. And you would get rid of acts of service. I would get rid of acts of service to receive. Okay. And to give, what would you do? You can only give one. Everything else is eliminated.

I think it would have to be quality time. But then again, if I said acts of service, service that mean we'd never spend any time together you would just not quality time oh then i would say acts of service to give them it means so much to me it does doesn't it and i i think it's very much my love language with everyone but it would mean a lot to me to keep doing acts of service because i think it's be i really enjoy doing it okay so you are eliminating eliminating acts of service and only giving acts of service wow yeah shit what about you my love language i mean it's so interesting this topic my love language that i give easily without a doubt without even thinking is words of affirmation absolutely i do all the

time you do whether that's friendships or relationships you know yeah i i do think that i pride myself on recognizing if someone needs that yes and i think that comes quite easily to me yeah um what i want though is quality time you know i can don't get me wrong i fucking love a compliment i love it don't get me wrong i love a fucking gift yeah but if i'm not getting quality time that's when i'll have stress yeah even in a friendship or relationship if i don't feel that there's been that effort from the other person saying oh i'd love to go out for coffee with you or let's go for a walk. You know, I think, oh, that's lovely.

But if I had to eliminate one, I think I probably would say acts of service as well. If you eliminated any of the others, you'd feel such a big shift. Huge shift, yeah. So I'm gonna have to say eliminate acts of service and then give, I can only give one. Oh, I don't know.

I don't know. It's stressful, isn't it? I think I'd have to go with quality time as well, again. Yeah. I guess it just means a lot. You know, the one that you wanted, you gave both. Yeah. Same with me.

Yeah, absolutely. Well, Katie, haven't we written well today? Woo-hoo! Honestly. Full of wisdom. Full of wisdom, I know. Just a bit of gurus over here. Yeah, absolutely.

Matt McGandy over here. Yeah. I am. I am, Katie. You are. I know. What are you? The Dalai Lama.

100%. I actually thought, didn't know the Dalai Lama. I thought the Dalai Lama was a Lama. Thank you for saying that. Did I ever tell you that? I was going to say that. Yeah. Because I sang to him in a choir when I was younger.

What? I've not told you this. No. Yeah, I sang to him in a choir when I was younger. What? I've not told you this. No. Yeah, I sang to him in a choir when I was younger. Where does he live? Oh, I don't know. He came from wherever he was. And you were there like...

And I was like, Nyaaah! Thank you for being here! And then I said to Mum, What animal am I singing to today? And she said, What do you mean? She said,

No, you're singing to the Dalai Lama. Oh yeah, the llama. And she's like, no, you've seen the Dalai Lama. Oh yeah, the Lama. She's like, no, he's a man. He's a man. Oh, don't we have fun? Don't we have a good little chuckle?

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