The Debrief - The Birthday Curse | The Debrief Podcast

Episode Date: August 11, 2025

Welcome back to The Debrief! In this episode we are discussing the curse of the summer birthdays! As always DM us @the.debriefpodcast or email us: [e-mail] Have an amazing week! Lots of love,K+K xx Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

I've got a rebel soul I've got a rebel soul Welcome to a day, Brie. Guys, we're cooking, we're back. We're locked in, we're so bad. Have you missed us? Because we missed you.

Oh, what a Kardashian iconic quote. Guys, truthfully, we pre-recorded so much because Kitty McNeil wasn't. Global World ExploreCoff. I was. I was bollying. So we actually haven't sat down and done this in like over a lot. Yeah, that's mad. We were literally churning.

We were churning about. We were literally like cooking for gas. We were like, we're back. We've had our sabbatical. We have. We're back. And we're back and better than ever. Big time.

Here we are, both in pink. Pink to make the boys wink. Absolutely. Big time. Sunshineing outside. We're thrilled with ourselves. Summer's happening. It's here.

Summer's happening. I love it. every single moment of that. Tell me. I just feel like I come alive. Yeah, I know. And I do, because it's my birthday. And today, bitches, it's summer birthdays, okay?

We're getting into that. But before we crack on mantras, okay? So my mantra for this week is I celebrate myself and the endless possibilities of hide. Yeah, big time. Honestly, I think Archie's thrilled that August is coming because it has been a birthday month. He's been working like a dog. Or Archie's like sweating. He's been working.

Literally, we had the last celebration just this, the justice weekend gone. And he was like, Kitty, I'm done. He's like, clocking out. He's like, I'm done now. I was like, sure. You did your bet. Yeah, you did your bet, okay?

What's your mantra for this week? My mantra is, I am grounded, I am capable. Yeah. And I trust the process of my life. Yeah, you're just going to trust it sometimes. Like, sometimes when it's all over the place and you're like, I don't know why. Sometimes I feel like you're like, I, can see the end goal, but right now I'm stood in a desert.

There's no clear road. I don't know how I'm going to get there. Completely. It's all good, honey. It's all good, honey. Yeah. It's all right. Sometimes you're just like, I trust it.

Don't worry about us, sweetheart. I'm literally there tears in my eyes. I trust it. Sure. Sure. No. Mental breakdown. I trust it.

I trust it. My song for this week is back on 70-15. Come on, Jungle. Never, never, oh, never going to cry anymore. We're going to 74. Chune. Yeah. 174, jungle.

Big tune. I love jungle. I love it, love it. It's such a summer fight. Yeah, that's why I was like, I'm going to crack in a summer tune in there. Such a good summer tune. Such a good summer tune. Okay.

Beautiful. And you're like, oh, Chown Ed. Tell me your song for this week. Mine is also a bit of a summer tune and something I'm very much behind, which is the resurgence of Rizzle Kicks. And it is, I don't know, but I like it. I seem to follow. Resil Kicks is new single. I love Rizzle Kits. Follow excitement with Rizzle Kicks and Ray from Chinerary. What's the song that he's like Rizzle Kicks and then he starts singing? Almost all of them. Yeah, almost four. But so many bangers. That's one of Eileen's favorite. It's Mummer to the Humble.

Well, they wrote it for Ily. Absolutely. They did. This is a shout out to Moore. Yeah. Right, wreckers. A Recker, a recommendation. So, the recommendation this week is actually wise children performance that I went to go see with Art.

Yes. So it was North by Northwest. It's unfortunately not on anymore, but they will be touring again. So I urge you to go see a Wise Children production. So what they do. do is they usually take classics so they also they've done north by northwest they've done uh not jane air they did jane air they did wuthering heights they've done all of these that's like classics but they do different spins on them yeah and it's very physical very movementy base the staging is always so

multifaceted like it's love you know the the props can go into staging the can staging can go into characters yeah characters can go into the music you know it's very very multi-talented as And I think it's something to watch where it's not a traditional piece of theatre. You know, you're not going to watch a traditional Wuthering Heights. Yes. And very musical as well. Oh. Like something they did within North by Northwest, which was really, really funny.

Of course, it's a classic. Yeah. So it's like the plane scene where they're running from the plane, you know, and there's a lot of music in it. They used old time music, but they lip synced to it. And it was really funny. It was really, really funny. Yeah.

And there was a moment. where they were like dancing together and the guy had like his face like completely turned to the audience and he was like lip syncing while dancing and it was really funny I was like yeah good comedy oh I love that right you ready yes let's debrief so bitches it's summer birthday seasons and their favorite time of the year okay big time but mate not only the sun and the cute outfits but it's kitty McNeil's B-day It was a big, big, big day, big day, big day. I had the worst hangover in my life.

Oh, my poor little peach. Every time. I'll tell you what, so it started off with a lovely barley treat. Yep. Archie treated me to a floating breakfast. So massages coming to our room, which are so bougier. That's lovely. And I didn't even know these two women just come in with these ensange beds.

Hello, Miss Kitty. And they put it out in the oils. I'm like, wow. Then a cake gets delivered, happy birthday kits, flowers on the bed. bed, swans out of the towels on the bed. Then we have this gorgeous three-course meal that Archie takes me out for drinks, they come back, fairy lights everywhere. I made out of flowers, I love you.

Flowers around the table and a love heart. I was like, tea lights everywhere. Tea lights are romantic. There's something about tea. It's so romantic. Really romantic about tea. Yeah, I like that. Yeah.

So Archie blasted us off with that. Yeah. Also got me some gorgeous earrings. Then came back to London, took me out for dinner. At Notting Hill, where was that? Zephyr. Zephy, grey, opposite gold. And gold is one of the best meals I've had.

Gold is a really, like, soft spot for May. So going to somewhere where you can see gold, I was like, oh, God. Sorry, I'm cheating on you. It's really cheating on you. Yeah. Great for gluten-free options. The food was sensational. And actually, and this is hard to say with London, reasonably priced.

Okay, yeah, cute. For like two people, you're having cocktails. you're having wine. And it's a nice restaurant. Yeah, it is. It's actually, I was like, that's not too bad. Yeah. Then went out with Mum and Daddy.

Yeah. Went through a nice, lovely meal. Then was with you. Did a gym class. You got me the greatest present of all. I'm seeing John McNally. I'm so excited. Then we went out for dinner as a flat.

Yeah. Then we celebrated going out with all my friends. We went bowling. Went bowling. Then went for drink. It's been a full old deal. It's been a bit of a marathon of a month. It has.

Especially for Arch. So, poor Arch. Arch is like, I'm retired, okay? Arch is like, he's hanging up his card. His credit card. You should have seen him. Like, we were sat on the sofa, like, having a really nice time. And I think you were at work.

And I see him just go, and I was like, what? And he goes, I need to get merch for Kitty's, for birthday time. That's the other thing. Archie had merch. He had sunglasses. He ordered custom sunglasses that said Kitty's 23rd on, like, the, like, on the actual sunglasses. It was iconic.

He was like, oh my God, I can't believe I've slipped up on this and I was like, I think you're okay. Like, you've done so much. That boy goes above and beyond

every single time because I wasn't even expecting that because he did so much that I really don't need it. Then anyway, so sweet. I'm very grateful for my beautiful best friend for everything

she did for Pache and I'm always grateful that you were born my chair. Oh, I've got you girl. Got you every single day, all right? Big time. Now, not only I was iconically

born on the, in July and a summer birthday but I'd also love to do a little quiz on some celebs okay so of course the most dramatic glamorous chaotic and magnetic people were born during the hottest months of the year apparently I'm a July the 18th babby shout out to the fellow summer stars I share my birthday with okay 18th of July Vindiesel shut up Kristen Bell oh I love Kristen Bell and chance Crawford Nate from Gossip. Oh my God. What I'm going to say. Okay. Okay. So we're now

going to do a little mini game. Yeah. Which one's the summer babby. Okay. It's time for you to guess. Got you. I'm going to give you three celebs. Mm-hmm. Okay. And you have to guess which one has a summer birthday. Summer birthday. Not 18th of July. They can't overpole

me. Never. Because one day they'll be saying which celebrity is 18th of July. And I'll be saying Kitty McNeil. Everyone shares a birthday with you. Not you share a birthday with them. Katie, thank you. I really appreciate that. Big time. That means it. It's not 18th of July. It's just summer.

Okay. So the first one, Kylie Jenner. Okay? Yeah. The second one, Harry Stiles. The third one, Riyama. Now, take your guess. I have a feeling, embarrassingly.

I think I know Kylie Jenner's birthday is in, like, I want to say it's in, like, October or something. Interesting. Harry Stiles' his birthday, I'm pretty sure it's in February. It is. because I remember it being vaguely close to mine. And I was like, hi, he starts his birthday. And I'm like, mine's coming up, by the way. You know?

Very. I'll give you a hint, two of February. Two of February. Oh, then, re. Oh, no. Oh, my God. No, Rianna's a Pisces. Is Shea?

No, oh, my God. Is Shea? Oh, my God. Is Rihanna a Pisces? I'm pretty sure Rianna's a Pisces. Do you think? I'm going to actually say it's Kylie. You'd be trash.

Yes. Woo-hoo! So Kylie is an August, baby. Is she? And I actually think she gives August 5th because she's the youngest Cardassian. Yeah. She's not Kardashian.

She's a Gemma. You get what I mean. She's the youngest out of the Babbies. Yeah. And she's in August and I'm like, girl, I think we'd vibe. Girl, come over to the gath. Now, Harry Stiles is her fed first. Feb, that's it.

Yeah. And Rihanna is even closer to you. Feb 20th. This is, I have seen before when you look up like what celebrities has got my star sign and like, I'm like, oh, it's me and Rihanna. We're so similar. It's a musical prowess. It's Piranha.

It's the impeccably shaped asses. That's what you have in common. Yeah. Absolutely. Big time. Yeah, completely. Massively. And we're also going to do a would you rather.

Okay. This is going to be a brutal round to do with summer additions. Okay. Really brutal. Because summer's amazing. Don't get me wrong. I, because everyone's like, I'm a winter person. I love winter outfits, not at all.

See. I am bikini on short, short, short. yeah tiny top massive tan i've got my hair blowed out yeah i've got my highlight i'm summer through and through see i love winter but no this is where we're ying and yang this is where we ying and yank so i'm in autumn but summer does have the sweaty pets or for me the sweaty nose yeah yeah summer does have you can't wear your head down as much because the back of your neck is sweating okay it's a thigh rub there are so many things a lot but the first would you rather would you rather have your birthday party at the perfect beach, but it rains the whole day, the whole day,

or have blazing sunshine but get sunburn in the first 30 minutes. Oh, rain. One thing you need to understand about me, listeners, the way I... She's a crap. I would have burned in the rain. Like, I burn, I burn... If the UV is high, it's a dangerous place for me to be. Like, I burn so much.

I need... I've always certainly need to look into my ancestry, because... There's got to be some Irish in that. I think you've got to. And also your hair. Like my hair, like I'm pasty pale, freckley, and ginger. Absolutely. Yeah.

Like, I'm telling you, there is not wild to me that can't. Why is it? Because I saw this thing on, have you seen that TikTok thing at the moment that it's like, do you have any kids? Yes, yeah. You know, and it's like when people don't get you. And this girl was saying how she was doing this TikTok and people are like, you're so pale you need to get in the sun.

She was like, I'm a ginger. can't tan and they're like no just stay in there's song for longer and she's like no I physically cannot tan I will just burn and then peel is it like an actual genetic thing for gingers I want that it's all about like I want to say it's the the there's a thing where you're like deficient and it's something like that like and it's just it's really hard me so story um I'm interesting the problem with me is that like I I can I tan to a healthy like oh wow she looks healthy yeah oh she looks like a normal color because when you actually went to lisbon with your friends i thought you did tan i did tan a little bit because you were

quite freckly on your nose when you came back i get really freckly and but i will really badly burn but i have the mentality of a tanner yeah so i will sit in the sun all day being like oh i'll tan and i'll burn and i'll actually can't and i can't like that's again when we did for on holiday i'll be there all day and you will tan so well thank you i love a tan i love it i love it that's Funsome. Anyway, quick fire. And the other one. Would you rather receive the perfect gift from your ex? Yeah. Or very weird, very public gift from your current partner's mum.

Very weird. Okay. Perfect gift from your ex. Or very, very strange public gift from your partner's mom. Perfect gift from my ex. Me too. If I had to accept a really dodgy gift in front of my boyfriend, like my boyfriend's mom's giving it to me and everyone's that. No. I'd be so awkward. No, completely.

And it's easy. With the ex, like, you can accept it, but not have to. You'd be like, sure, thanks. You'll be like, thanks. See you later, I guess. Imagine. Yeah. No, can't do the mum's day.

Imagine he's like, I've got you a massage membership, like, for lifetime supply. All right, thanks, pal. Thanks, I'll take that. Yeah. Okay, ready? Yeah. Would you rather have a perfect hair in every birthday photo but a terrible outfit or a killer outfit with full on sweaty hair?

Stuck to your face. That's really hard. Isn't that really hard? How ugly is the outfit? It's awful. It's like loom bands up the arm. Loon bands up the arm. It's like loom bands up the arm.

Do you know what? I think I'd go for ugly outfit good hair because at least I could try and palm off that it was like a fancy dress thing. Oh, great manipulation. I'd be like, oh no, no. Like it was coming in like a shit outfit. But like, oh, God, you look so gorgeous outfit there.

I'm like, oh, it was intentional. Oh, yeah, yeah. So I'm, it was a fancy dress theme barter. But if I'm dressed to the nines and I look like I've been dunked in water, they'll be like, and also they'll be like, why are you missing that bit? You look gorgeous, but why have you just like being rejected the hair? Yeah. And I think because you'd look so fly in the outfit, you would notice the hair.

You would. You would. Oh my God. I also completely off track. Yeah. Apparently, if you've got dark hair, if you've got brunette hair, people notice your face. First. Interesting.

If you've got blonde hair, people see your hair before your face. That's so interesting. Isn't there? So I need to make sure my hair always was good now. Yeah. Top it up. Another one, Reggie. Would you rather have a birthday shout-out from your favourite celebrity celebrity.

Oh, my God. Get a surprise trip from your friends. Oh, surprise trip. Would you? Yeah. Literally. Whilst I would love, like, the Lin-Manuel Miranda, terrible, terrible first reference that came to mine

to be like, Katie, happy birthday. You're absolutely legend. I'd be like, yeah, that's cool. But if you were like, we're going to the Maldives. We're all going to the Maldives. Also, what do you call a place similar to the Maldives? It starts with a say, Carbo. No.

The Caribbean. Thank you. Or what she says, Caribbean. I'm like, are you America? That's really stupid. He's like, Archie always says stupid things. He doesn't. What did he say?

What do you mean he's saying? Caribbean. Like he always puts the... Oh, he puts emphasis on the... It's like how he says my mom's name. Eileen. It was Eileen. He goes, oh, we're going to go to Heathrow?

He throw. He throw. Stand stared. Like, he always goes on the up. Yeah, it's mad that. It's really mad. It's really, yeah. And then he's like, the Caribbean.

I'm like, it's the Caribbean. It's... Are you American? Go to the Caribbean. I know. It's mad, isn't it? No. Two all after.

You ready? Yeah. Would you rather turn a year older? every six months but get double the parties. Okay. Yeah. Or only celebrate every five years

but you don't age in between. But I'd be sad that everyone's aging around me. Oh, would you? You feel you're missing out. Well, like everyone would be like 50 and I'd be just turning like 29. Yeah, you would be. Or something like that.

It would be really weird. Yeah. So unfortunately, I don't really care that much about celebrating my birthday. Like, logistically, I don't mind celebrating every five years. Like, that's fine. Huge, no. I'm not like the biggest birthday person.

I know. But I'd have to go with aging every six months. I've, yeah. Like, do you know what's interesting about you is you're not the biggest birthday? I think it says a lot about what I love. I think I'm like, me. I'm like, although you're not the biggest birthday person and anything we do, you're so grateful for and you get so surprised.

You're like, what? Yeah. What you love is. It's Christmas, Halloween. Yeah. Things like that. You're like, should we do a Christmas party? I love a holiday thing.

I wonder if it's because you don't, yeah. I wonder if it's because you don't care for the attention. You're like, I'd rather us all just be together and have a good time. I have started to really learn this about myself that I get quite stressed when it's about me. Yeah. Like I could never, and I've said this before to a friend of ours, we've spoken about it. And we both were like, I could never have done something like, you're 20 fast.

Stop it. Ever. Stop it. I could never have done it because, A, I don't know that many people. It would be a very small tent. Secondly, the thought of that many, like, oh, really? I really would have struggled. I would have been so stressed.

See, this is what I feel with you sometimes. I feel you enjoy sometimes other people's birthday more than your own. Oh, I loved your birthday. Because I'm like, let's all celebrate. Let's all have a fun time. Woo, woo, woo. because we're celebrating but if it's like

I was I enjoy I love my birthday this year my 20 fans would have been a night that if it was for you we had

it was like it was this beautiful like canopy tpee celebration there were drinks there was at least over 100 people there

like it was just and it was all about celebrating you and your dad like it was such an amazing time if that were all for me I would be like

no guys honestly just go home honestly honest guys don't stress i would have been really and i've always said this and i don't know if other people feel the same where i'm like if i do something big for my birthday i am so conscious that i want people to have a good time because if they don't they'd be like oh god remember that who's birthday was like oh it was crazy

and i'm like i can't control that whereas if it's a christmas do and it's not like let's all yeah you're like should we do a little christmas party then you're like everyone's celebrating together so it's not like all about you and I think that's why you enjoy it more. The only thing, the only time I think I've really like done something for my birthday and feel like, oh, I actually didn't enjoy it was when I did my little lame-miss sing-along. Oh, yeah.

Like, it was very me and everyone, everyone jumped in like headfast. Head-fast, yeah. They were like, ready to go. It's like, you know how I did that little surprise? It wasn't a party, but that little surprise picnic with your friend. Yeah. I think that was nice because it wasn't like everyone's watching you. It was like five of us, six of us.

And you wanted to be there. And we all were like, it was like a Thursday, really chill thirsting, something like that, do I mean? Okay, my last, would you rather, would you rather have a surprise party thrown for you? You're probably honest this now. Surprise party thrown for you every year. Yeah. Or never have to plan a birthday again because it's always a tiny awkward dinner. Oh, do you know what?

Here's the thing. Yeah. I don't, like, I would. go surprise party yeah because although i hate this is a really see it's a catch 22 because i'm like although i hate the attention and i don't want to organize it i would love to be surprised yeah there's nothing quite not that you right so when i did this little so katy had a bit of a tough few weeks you just had what going on in your life so i text so it was me arch or housemate and two of your best friends yeah and it was like the fibers and i knew it was katie's favorite people also the

people she doesn't feel she has to host yeah like there were a few other people that i knew you love but i knew that you then feel like i need to make sure i show interest in everyone but i was like these people know and also these were the only people that knew what was going on yeah so they were so lovely i was like right guys let's all get together i made a banner for katie that said like we love you and it had baby photos of my god and then i made these like cut out and face masks that had katie's face on and we all have to surprise that in them so i was like guys let's all like get snacks yeah they were so cute all your friends were like watch we get us like get hummus crisps yeah she loves lentil crisps i was like anyway your friends

came with the best snacks the best vibes like everyone was on great form katy blessed into tales it was like a proposter she was it honestly like i just think because you didn't expect it i really did you you thought we were going to pitts potter again in put me which don't get me on pitts potter in pitts pottley we love you but i was genuinely like i unfortunately really like to ruin things to myself so i always try and find out and i'm always try and find out and i'm I'm like, I always, I always have a gut feeling on these things, and this I didn't. No, you have no idea. I really had no idea.

And, like, I think surprise parties, like, so lovely. And I'm like, if I'm genuine, that's like the first time I've been genuinely surprised. And like, oh, God, like, I literally was just like, she was like, it was just amazing. And I think I would love that. It's the same, like, I'm not a words of affirmation person or physical touch person, but I would like that in a partner. Completely. So it's similar to that. It changes with that, though, doesn't it?

Yeah. Because it's like, oh, no, I'm not. really bothered about that but i actually really value it from this person literally so it's like whilst i'm like i would never be like could you do me like could you organize me a party if you guys did surprise me every year i would that just mean the world to me especially when i wouldn't know when it's coming yeah exactly it's like it would be so lovely yeah it's so nice right should we go on to dilemma let's go to the die lemma so tell me okay so girls i plan my birthday a whole month in advance It's nothing wild, just a fun garden party with food, music, cute outfits and all my favourite people.

Oh, nice. I made sure to check with my closest friends before locking in the date and my best friend, even RSVP, can't wait and has been asking what to wear, etc. Oh, good woman. Good woman. Fast forward to two weeks. I also love can I just say that no girl can go to any event without asking their friends what they're wearing. Oh, my God, honestly. Because if I'm in a ball gown, you guys are in your cracks.

Oh, it's just not going to work, is it? But you know what is actually really funny? Sometimes I ask them, like, what you're wearing? and they tell me, and I'm like, I won't do that. No. Yeah. So I already have an idea of what I should were. Yeah.

Anyway, go on. So fast forward to two weeks before the party, she casually mentions that she's actually going on holiday that weekend. Oh. Oh. A last minute deal came up and she couldn't say no. No apology, just to kind of shrugged off. Hope it's still fab message in the group chat.

Not even privately to me. That's rude. Now I'm torn. Part of me wants to brush it off and not cause drama. Maybe she genuinely didn't realize the clash. Maybe it was spontaneous. Maybe I'm overthinking. But another.

part of me feels a bit stung like i thought we were a bit closer than that it just kind of feels like she's picked all the sun lounges over me and now i'm wondering was my birthday even on her radar or was she just never planning to come oh do i say something or do i let it go and pretend i don't care when i kind of really do that's really hard because that's disappointing i'm a calendar person like everything's in my calendar and also i know if i'd said to you i'm doing this yeah let's say my 25 yeah which you knew was a huge deal yeah we've been talking about it for Okay, it's different because she said she was just doing something casual. But you know how much my birthday means to me.

Yes. So if I said, we're doing this, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I know you've put it in your calendar. And if someone goes, oh, Katie, of course it wasn't a work opportunity, it would be different. But if, let's say, one of your other friends is like, oh, do you want to come to see the show with me? And you're like, oh, I'm sorry, I can't. This is on. Yeah.

I would trust that you know that you've already said yes to this. Yes. I think that's a real shame. I think if it was one of your other friends I think it could have been a bit like that's disappointing but it's summer hate that's the thing with summer birthdays

that's when people go on holiday that's where it gets tricky I think the fact she's already said yes and then didn't really like say can I talk about something I've kind of like I don't have a lot of money at the moment and this deal came up and me and my boyfriend are like kind of think he was to be nigh

I think the fact that there was no kind of heads up is a bit sad. I think you should say something. I think you should. And I honestly don't even think it needs to be a lot of drama. I think you can just be like, because she's written it now as if it's kind of happened and if she should now say something to, if that's what, I think that's how it's written.

And I just think it's like you, it's so hard, but I'm like if you've made them a commitment and said yes, unfortunately you've made the commitment i agree like even if it's chill i'm just kind of of unless you're unwell yeah like even even if you're like i really don't want to go and we've all had that like said yes to events and then got there the day of and you're having a terrible day you feel unwell like you're just not feeling it i'm like go for one show face yeah show face try your bust and then be like i'm off and also i feel like there are a few things that i'm like fair enough if it's anything to do with health or family

or if anything's happened like that, completely get it. But if it's just a backup option, I think that's, oh, I think that's, I would be let down if you did that to me and I would be like, oh, that actually really upset. Even if there's not an alternative option, either. If I'd be more inclined if you were like,

oh, we're not going to, I can't come. But if you're free, I put two dates in the diary. I'm going to surprise us with something, just the two of us because you really mean a lot to me and I feel really bad about this. Completely. That's a bit better. Like that softens the blow of the thought.

Completely. Not like, so, I'm just not going to come. Completely. Yeah, I think you should talk to this because I think also it holds a precedent for where you want to, your friendship to be in the future. Massively.

You're okay to feel like unwell about, if she was unwell, if it was health related, it's different. But it's the fact it's like something else has come up. Yeah. That's where it's disappointing. I think you should just say to her, look. Yeah.

love you and I care about you so much and it also comes down to love languages massively. What's your love language? Yeah. If yours is quality time and she's just completely bailed on this. Yeah. Whereas the friend's like, but I sent you a really nice gift. Okay, but that's not sure I'm loved.

Yeah. I think you can bring this up without being a big issue. I genuinely do. Oh yeah. Definitely. Right. Good luck, darling. Good luck.

That's all good. Okay, you ready? Yeah. Yes. Okay, I've got one. I've got one. Okay, I'll ping-pom you. Yep.

Melting makeup before the birthday photos have even started. Oh, it's hard. It's really difficult. When you feel your mascara up, is it on your fucking, your straw. It's so hard. And you're like, like, wiping it up. It's like, why have I bothered?

What can you do? This is why I feel it's so important to get a tan. Because then you're like, all I need is a bit of scarer. Yeah, exactly. No, the melting makeup's never the one. It's the worst. It's the worst. It's terrible.

Right, ready? Yep. Something I had recently. Yeah. at events like if you're at event celebrating when you're referencing

something that people haven't seen and they won't play along oh no come on like so I'm like I'm talking to someone oh it really reminds me of Tom Harley

and in MoBla have you seen Mobland like a specific scene in MoBland oh no no no I haven't and I'm like oh yeah oh well oh it's just basically this scene where like he does X Y Z ad

and you know you just did that it reminded me of that all right well like i haven't seen it okay i know you haven't seen it but literally just say oh i get what you mean like yeah i always find it really hard because i like when that happens to me if someone's oh my god have you seen the show i go no no but i get what you mean it's on my list like i would love to see it tell me like what's and they're like oh it's like oh my god that's so me not like no i haven't seen it like play along play it along please humor me but that's for me it's like social intelligence like please humor like people so

people are so logical they're like well why would I lie yeah no I haven't seen it it's like just like human just please them just pays them yeah literally so questions I'm deadly bloody serious and I'm feeling okay so have you ever noticed a difference in how people treat or celebrate summer birthdays versus birthdays and other seasons I think so. Yeah, go on. Because I think people are more... Sounds bad.

I think people are more keen to celebrate in winter. Yeah, yeah. Because you can just sit in a pub, you can do something. And also it's something to do. Like, winter's usually quite quiet. Boring. Like, it's a little bit boring. You're looking for plans.

Some of like people have their plans. They have their holidays. Festivals, holidays, summer and family trips. And they're trying to, like, they're trying to squeeze you in. Yeah, completely. That's why, if it's hard. It's hard. It's hard.

It's hard. It's hard. You need to be proactive quick. Yeah. being like, I'm doing this. Here, ye, here. Six months before, clear the date in your diary. Yeah, I agree.

So, yeah, I think winter's easier to organise, to be honest. Yeah, I do so. Because February, no one's got plans in February. No. The only other thing, the only thing I would say with winter is it's hard with location. Yeah. Like, you can't say, oh, we'll have a barbecue. No, and like I do love a picnic.

Yeah. Yeah. That's the only. Massively. Okay, what's your silly question? My silly question is, would you rather, spend a holiday full of people

you have blocked or full of people that have blocked you Oh my God this is a really really good question Like you're You can't even

Is like you're in a villa For a life for a week A villa with people I have blocks Like we think of the people I've blocked Mainly just sexist Or people Or wish you could have blocked but you can't really, because it'll then be more beefy than it is.

Yeah, you know who I'm talking about, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Or people who've blocked me. But you know what? This is it. You've discovered people I've blocked. Because if it's people who've blocked me and they're like ignoring me.

And I'm like sat in a corner life. No one likes me. Whereas if it's people I've blocked, I'm more than happy to clear. Look, pal. Listen. Let's clear the water for this week. Yeah. We're going to be in a pool.

and in the sun. Yeah. But you did piss me off with this. Do you know what? Some maybe I could repair. I'm not talking my aces at all. I'm talking about friendships. Yeah.

Some friendships maybe I could repair. Maybe in the heat. Maybe. See, I'd go the other way. Would you? I'd be worried with people that have blocked me. Would you? And then just be like,

now you're forced to spend time with me. How embarrassing for you. Literally. Because I'm also one of those people that I'm like, if you don't want to talk to me, I will not talk to you. I will literally sit pretty with my book and you can just get annoyed by my existence

Yeah and I'm just going to have my satsiki and crack on I'm literally just going to like literally no bother That's so Yeah I don't think I get that awkward in situations like that No It's like if someone doesn't speak gay She's like match Oh game fucking set

You want to you want to be Kate's like chat mate She's like if you're no seriously you've met the queen If you want to be, if you want to be cold and petty, I will, I will raise you. I will level up. Like, fine. I can, I can do more. That's no problem.

Yeah, you will, you genuinely well. Like, I'm fine with that. You're like, okay. Sure. Let's bring them on, guys. I see it. Yeah. Right, guys, we got to the end of the episode.

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