The Debrief - The Boat Race, The Beef & The Bunnies

Episode Date: April 30, 2023

Welcome to the Debrief! We are Kitty and Katie, two gals trying to navigate life in our 20's living in London and wanting to bring you along for the ride. We're here to cover everything from nights out, to career goals, to bad dates, and everything in between. We hope you enjoy, Monday’s are about to get a whole lot better.Want to debrief with us? Email [e-mail] or DM us on instagram @the.debriefpodcastLots of love,Kitty and Katie x Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

I've got a rebel soul, yeah, I've got a rebel soul, I've got a rebel soul. Hello! Good morning my little chickens. Welcome back. Hello Katie Leach. Hello Katie Ruttnick. How are you doing this? Fine, fine, fine morning? Good morning. The birds are chirping. It is early. It is. Early. Well.

It's half nine. We've never been in the podcast at this time. No. This is early. We do an afternooner. You see, we usually do an afternooner, and it's quite a crowd in the afternoon. You know, people are tip-tip tip tip tapping on their laptops getting their worked on and this morning it was vacant wasn't it it was like dead it was like a ghost town

desert island we were quite excited to do a podcast in the morning weren't we Katie I know I'm excited I've been to the gym you go girl I got up I went to the gym I was like what do you do at the gyms do you fitness yeah I did I did it I did. It was a bit of a full body. How's the couch to 5k going by the way? It's okay. Is it going? I went back a week because my shins were really bad. Oh Katie have you been rolling them? I have but you should have seen me. So I was rolling them yeah put a bit of pressure on oh she's painful she's really tender oh I genuinely yeah so I'm gonna try I have two more runs to do this week okay times are ticking it's Thursday I'm like when am I gonna get this done but it's going okay you have to I did a great 5k yesterday did you yeah it was gorgeous you know the walk that we've done so many times yeah around that and it was liberating all the little doggies that all the

walks the only thing was the shitty weather but we can move with that i genuinely i can't what's been going on i can't get over how i got absolutely drenched yesterday annihilated but you know i felt like a main character because the way we go home, we walk over this bridge. I'm like walking over the bridge. Rain beating down on me. And I was like no umbrella. And I thought Did you feel like the Bridget Jones? Literally I was like

I'm already wet. Let's just embrace it. Yeah. So I'm like. Can you have a hood? You know I didn't have my hood up. I've got like a thing with hoods. She genuinely does. we went on go away sorry guys we're eating a banana how disgusting one so there we are it's all gone no it's not i'm gonna lie compulsive liar katie and i went on go away this it starts it starts pouring and when i say pouring like hailing the gods

are above woo like they put the thunder on us and I'm there with my like cap on coat on

I'm thinking these eyelashes aren't getting wet it's just fucking Charlotte Tilbury mascara absolutely not I'm like these are not getting wet

Katie on the other hand has no hood up drowned rat on the other side clinging to this pole swinging from side to side I got stuck on the other hand, has no hood up. Drowned rat on the other side, clinging to this pole, swinging from side to side. I got stuck on the bed because I got so scared because it got so slippy.

It got so slippy. Do you know what I rate the stubbornness, though? There's something about hood that I'm literally like, they never stay up. If I genuinely found a hood that stayed up, I would wear them more often. Okay. However.

Mission, guys, if you can find a hood that stayed up I would wear them more often okay however mission guys if you can find a hood that stays up Katie will use it why bother wearing a hood when I'm gonna put it up and then the winds just gonna be like that again yeah that's what is the point that is really embarrassing it's really embarrassing humiliating I'd say. Genuinely. One might say. It's debasing. Yeah. Right, Katie, let's start it off. What is your mantra of the week? Tell me. I've given this a lot of thought, actually. Okay, go on.

So, I'm all the high vibes. I feel like I've been not lacking my sparkle. Yeah. But I feel like a bit deflated this week. Oh, no. Start of the week, I'm like just going through the motions, but not being like, yeah, isn't this great? Okay.. Start of the week, I'm like just going through the motions but not being like, yeah, isn't this great?

Okay. So I'm going with, I'm successful. I'm doing IMs. I love that. I'm successful. I'm confident. I'm bringing us into the weekend.

I am sexy. Oh! I love that. So successful. I tell you what, that's always in there for me. Yeah. I love that one. It makes you what that's always in there for me I love that one

it makes me feel like whatever I've done in that day I've achieved something and that's big successful love it confident it's a must

because if you if you show confidence you are confident you are it gets into your head you can manipulate yourself to be confident absolutely

and then finally sexy sexy done in your hair I've got to I've got to go in there I've got to You can manipulate yourself to be confident. Absolutely. And then finally, sexy. Sexy. Done in your hair. I've got to fill my hair. I've got to go in, boom. Yeah.

You show them what I've got. I've got some cracking stories for you this week. Oh, God. Cracking. What an unexpected. Honestly. Weekend. Yeah, what an unexpected.

Before we get on to that, Kitty McNeil. What are your mantras? Do you know what? I've had such a week. Before we get on to that, Kitty McNeil. Do you know what? I've had such a week. I mean, it's only Thursday. Yeah. I'm a fucking hell. Like, I've pushed myself to the limit.

You really, yeah. So I would say, and I'm actually not going to do three. I did three last week. Mine this week is, I have the power to do anything. Oh! Yeah, because I feel like. to do anything. Oh! Yeah, because I feel like... You do. I've conquered so much. I haven't fucking answered it in a minute.

Oh, no, you have. I'm thinking I've really pushed myself this week and I am powerful. I have the power to do anything. Absolutely. I'm like, watch me. Watch me. I'm like, watch me bitch it.

I'm like, I can do anything because I'm just a me bitch it I'm like I can do anything because I'm just a bad bitch bad bitch you clark I was like I fucking got it I was like

yeah so I've said that to myself and what I'm going off guys is earlier this week on Monday yeah oh god

for the first over time I did stand up comedy fuck me I was so I wish I could Fuck me. I was so... I wish I could have been there. I was so...

I was nervous for you. I was excited for you. Yeah. I mean, we were talking about it. It is genuinely probably the scariest thing you could do. Yeah. To stand up as yourself and be funny on the spot. Completely.

Like... And it's so exposing. So, I had my parents there and arch was there as well so it was my mum dad my sister and arch so it was pretty chilled um and oh my gosh it's so different from performing katie and i used to an acting background and mt and performing so we know what that's like it's so different because you aren't judged on your talent you're judged as a person yeah so everything you're talking about and and of course a lot of comedy is all very self-deprecating all anecdotal you've got all your stories it's all to do with your life so when you're exposing yourself like

that it's very open to judgment yeah and you know it's not like well i didn't fucking write this so it doesn't matter you know bloody bloody Shakespeare did the dickhead. Yeah. So don't judge me. Yeah, yeah. So that's quite, that was quite exposing. I thought, wow, this is something that I didn't expect almost until I got up on the stage.

Yeah. And I was like, wow. I was like, wow, okay. Oh, my God. The great thing, though, I mean, we know it, with performing is you have such bright lights. Oh, my God. So you can't though, I mean, we know it, with performing is you have such bright lights. Oh, my God. So you can't see.

You can't see who you're looking at. So that almost puts that blank canvas over them. Yeah. As to be like, well, I can't see you. It's a blank wall. Yeah. I'm just doing it into the mirror. Or, you know, I'm doing it to a blank wall.

Yeah. But it was so good. It was so liberating. I can imagine because there's something about, like, not necessarily that it was a good. It was so liberating. I can imagine because there's something about like, not necessarily that it was a fear. Yeah. But like doing something you genuinely never thought you would do and like smashing it. For me, that's exciting. It's so exciting.

It makes you feel like I can do this. I can do whatever I want, you know. And I think that's something huge to move forward with. Especially young, early 20s, what we're in right now. Absolutely. Don't settle. You've got such time to... And that's a relationship's own career.

Yeah. When our parents were young, they had one career and that was it. Now, in our generation, you have so many things going on yeah yeah you know and the podcast has just become a part of our lives now yeah and and i think that was something really exciting to be like i don't have to stick to one thing this is really exciting that i can move forward yeah and push myself oh fucking hell it was terrifying like oh it was overwhelming it was just but how did it feel once you finished and then coming off? I can imagine it was such a relief.

It was such a relief. I thought, I've done it. I was like, oh my God, I've done it now. You shit the bed. Yeah, I shit the bed. And I did a little handshake to the emcee and was just like, thank you, thank you. And then went off stage. Yeah.

And then there was that kind of buzz of like, well, I've done it now. I've done it now i've done it you know and and you know this feeling we've spoken about it before when you're so in the moment you forget you've done it you kind of black out a bit yeah yeah you said it used to do when you were driving yeah um but when you know the journey or you know it so well that you just black out so i came off stage and i was like, did I do it? I was like, or did I just stand there for five minutes? Yeah.

So that was interesting. I think I'm going to try gigging comedy-wise once a week. Amazing. Just to keep it ticking, just to keep it going. Oh, my God. But, yeah, it was so good. Oh, my God. Honestly, I was so excited.

What a start to the week. What a start to the week. Yeah, especially after the weekend we had, good. Oh my God. Honestly, I was so excited. What a start to the week. What a start to the week. Yeah, especially after the weekend we had, Katie. Oh God, shall we? Shall we debrief? Let's debrief, my love. Come on then. Where should we start?

I'm trying to think what we did Friday. What do you mean, what did we do Friday? It was full of you and Arch beefing. It was did we do Friday? It was full of Ewan Hodge beefing. It was full of clubbing. It was full of... Oh, God. There was so much going on that night. We...

So, I was at work, and I remember chatting to my co-workers, being like, have you got plans tonight? I said, absolutely not. I said, all I said all I want to do is get into bed with a nice little bowl of cereal oh yeah what bowl though I've got cocoa pops at the moment I'm not loving it you usually like the cocoa shells I like the cocoa shells

from middle left bloody lovely yeah you like that's bloody lovely that is bloody But the, I was like very adamant. No plans. No plans. Something quite nice about that. Yeah. I was like, no, no, no. Text comes through on the group chat. Fancy the pub.

And I think, do you know what, actually? It was a day the sun was shining. It was, actually. The sun was shining. I thought, do you know what, actually? Post work, nice little drinky, little drinky poo. And then off I trot to bed. Great, love it.

How wrong you were. You're so silly. Silly. So silly. You can only go back in time and I wag my finger and say, silly little Katie. Because we got one. The problem is we got one, we got another.

And I'm thinking, oh, yeah, this is fine. I get home for, like, ten. Yeah, perfect. We get another. Then, turn around, I've just got a tray full of tequila shots. Now! And we have shots of... Baby Guinness.

I love a baby Guinness. I love baby Guinness. I could devour a row of shots of baby Guinness. Yeah. Very, very yummy. Love it. But actual Guinness? No, I have no idea. I've never tried. Have you? Yes, I have. What's it likeness. Very, very yummy. Love it. But actual Guinness? No, I have no idea.

I've never tried. Have you? Yes, I have. What's it like? It's not very nice. Well, I remember they were like, it's very chocolatey. So I was like,

I'm not brewing it. I was like, get me in. And it wasn't. It wasn't. Not at all. We went out for a few drinks. It was supposed to be really chilled.

Friday night. We'd had quite a busy week because we were still kind of recovering from Barcelona. Yeah. So we were still a bit like, really chilled. Friday night, we'd had quite a busy week because we were still kind of recovering from Barcelona. Yeah. So we were still a bit like, oh God. And then before we know it,

we were slaughtered. I, do you know what as well? I feel like it's when you do the toilet trips. Oh my God. So, that's when you know

because that's when you know it's fucking hit you. You look at yourself in the mirror and you're swaying. You're still swaying. So a group of us were at the pub. We had a few drinks.

It was supposed to be really, really chilled. Yeah. Shots came in. Archie was slaughtered. He was absolutely slaughtered. He was slaughtered. And then, oh my God, guys, like the second time ever in my life, which I love Casey and Archie beats.

I felt really bad. I had to walk away. I had to walk away. Katieats I felt really bad I had to walk away I had to walk away Katie I felt so bad do you know what's actually really funny Archie's going to listen to this

and he'll be like you fucker he said to me this morning it's like what are you going to talk about on the podcast I said are you and Katie beefing

and he said please don't he said no he said no no that is not good content and that is the best content. It's brilliant content.

It's brilliant. I felt really bad because I made a comment that I thought was quite funny. Poking fun. And he did not take it well. He was not happy about it. He did not take it well. He was not happy about it at all. I don't know if that was the drinking in the video site.

And then we were holding hands over the table, apologising to each other. And that's the point I had to leave. And then I thought, and then I'm like, why am I holding your hand? Do you remember how it happened? I remember, I remember making this comment. All the boys do, we were the group. And the girls, all the girlies were just having like either gin or tonics or cocktails or whatever. So they're more spending so we get our own drinks. The boys

always have beers or whatever so they do rounds. The boys are doing rounds and so Archie walks up with the beers and then a drink for you. Yeah. My drink was finished, I will say. So I sit there, I'm like, very casually. I wasn't like, I can't believe you didn't get me a drink. I was like, oh, I'm serious. I'm just gonna go get myself a drink, and Archie thanks for that. He was not happy.

He was not happy about it. I feel like I did offend him, and then I did feel bad, because I thought Katie just, shush. Because then you went off to get your drink Archie was livid he's like that cheeky bitch really yeah

and I was just like I can't believe she complained about that I was like I can't believe it and I was just like well I was like seriously Archie I don't know what to do right now you gave back

and then you were like there was silence there was silence it was a bit awkward you put out your hand and you were like, oh, gee, I'm sorry. And he was like, no, actually, I will say, right, you've actually fucked me off. Like, I'm not going to lie, you haven't heard me. And I was like, yeah, my turn to go.

I was like, my turn to leave. But I was, but I was so. I love when you two be. I was so confused. I love it. I was so confused by that whole interaction because he was very drunk to be fair he was very drunk but he was he was really annoyed and then i felt bad because i was like okay so you just leave it let it lie yeah i was like you didn't have to say that you silly woman it was just so good there's

only been a few times in our friendship where you and archie have beefed. I think it's because Archie and I are... Very similar. We're very similar. We're not confrontational people. No. And funnily enough, I feel like we only have an argument when we're drunk, but we're besties now.

Besties again. We're besties again. Besties forever. So we went into this club, one of our favourites, to be fair. Yeah. One of our familiars, one of our absolute favourites.

The tunes were popping. The tunes were absolutely popping. But do you remember what I did on the way in? With the Maltesers? I was like, I've never been disrespected this much in my life. This was the best thing ever. So we were in the queue for this club the one the woman's scanning ids and patting people down and she has like a little stand next to her where she's got her like

torch and her like stuff next to the scanner yeah on top of the um stand she has a Malteser bunny. I fucking love these Malteser bunnies. And then the boys had been let in by that point. And then it was just me and you. And you were like, you're a Malteser bunny. I went, oh, Katie. I went, woo. Went to go grab her.

This woman slapped my hand. And when I say slapped, it was like, gah. And I was like, ow. She was just there like rocking my wrist. And she was like, you do not do that. You do not do that. And I was like, I've never seen someone so livid over a Malteser bunny. She was so angry with me.

She was fuming. I know. So it kind of gave me. Fuming. I know. So it kind of gave me the bad vibes when I went in. I genuinely was worried she wasn't going to let you in. Because you went, I want it. And she was like, no. She was talking to you like a dog. She was like, no.

No. And I was like, oh. But I was like. I was so scared. You were like, sorry. So sorry, so sorry, so sorry. I was genuinely dying. Tell you what. This club that sorry, so sorry, so sorry. I was genuinely dying. Tell you what, this club that we go to, love it, absolutely love it.

But blimey, the boys are handsy. Oh my God. Oh my God. Actually, to be fair, I felt that night, it was the day before the Oxford-Cambridge rowing race. Which was brilliant. If you guys weren't, it was so good. for the Oxford Cambridge rowing race. Which was brilliant. If you guys weren't, it was so good. But the, I think all of them piled into this club.

There were some good looking boys in the club. Really good looking boys. There were some very good looking boys. Yeah. However, I don't know, I felt like watched. Yeah. The thing is, I would say, kids in a relationship, so when we're out,

sometimes I forget that I'm not. So I make a fool out of myself on the dance floor. I literally dance like I'm not trying to attract anyone. Because I feel like sometimes when you do the look, everyone's kind of like... You do the look and you kind of need to... Just kind of like bopping along.

I'm just doing the Macarena with you absolutely loving yeah absolutely and i forget i've got no one to come home to well i just we go for it together we like we're literally like then the tune comes on we do the spin we do the spin we do the out and in the out and in make my own little mosh pit, go back, I loved it. The greatest thing about our friendship as well is that Katie and I dance along to the words. So it's like,

give me, give me, give me a man after midnight. There'll be no like hip movements, they will just be. We're creating a story. We're creating a story, yeah. There were so many men in there. Usually, i found with london a lot of girls yeah yeah a lot of girls not a lot of guys not a lot of guys and mostly i see a lot of relationships yes on a night out i don't know if that's just because i

feel like i only see relationships but i see see loads of people, like, couples and going out together. I think it's quite a big thing to go out as couples. Yeah, I think so. Whereas, like, when we went out on Friday, oh, my gosh, there were hundreds of men. Yeah. It was overwhelming. And in big groups.

So many men. Not a girl inside. No, and it just felt like they were... On it. They were on us. yeah yeah like it was it was frightening and the best thing is this one boy took it a bit too far and got a bit handsy at that moment i'm waiting for archie to be an alpha male and come in and just like absolutely deck him and i'm thinking god this will give me some material for tonight. Yeah. Wow, this is a great role-player and I'm thinking, oh this is so overwhelming.

And then I'm looking around for him. Kitty! Kitty! I hear, he's torn up his fucking shoelaces. And I'm like Archie look up! He's like, he does his shoelaces and the boy's gone. I'm like, well someone's got away with a grope yeah I'm like that's bad it is bad it is

it's so funny it's weird though because I feel when we go out together I kind of have two people that I'm focusing on you and Archie yeah

Archie when I'll turn around and get I have a little get and I have a little boogie yeah and then I look at you so we can just bop and make a mosh pit.

Oh yeah, yeah, big time. When other people start approaching, I'm like, hell yeah. Please leave. I'm like, what? I was like, this random guy joined us. Do you remember that guy? I bought some fabulous photos.

But Katie and I thought he worked there because as we arrived, we said to him, excuse me, we were at the toilet, so we were so sorted, we couldn't remember. And he's like, oh toilet so we were so sorted we couldn't remember and he's like oh through that then later on we walked back through and he's like

girls can we see your stamps on your hand yeah so we're like yeah yeah yeah then later on he's like

ooh like dancing we're like he's thinking where the security got I'm so did he work there I thought he worked there

but we were having a great time he then did start to follow us around a bit and then yeah and then I thought do you know what?

You've had your time and I've given you, give me a mile off. And you have to kind of like shimmy them off. Or run as we do. Yeah, quickly. Run!

But when was it? There was a, Robbie Williams' Angels Came On. I'm loving angels instead. Now that, that is a great tune. Do you know what? I feel like that's so us on a night out.

We love a bit of shit tunes. Oh, yeah. Don't put anything kind of too modern that I wouldn't know. Yeah. And too much DMV. I'm thinking, nah, I'm out now. Yeah. When there's a good Mamma Mia, there's a good cheeky Mambo No. 5.

Whoa! I'm in. I'm absolutely in. This is Mambo No. 5. I i'm like here we go that was genuinely one of the best moments of my life i embarrassingly said this yesterday i can't stop talking about it when it was literally like this is mambo number five and i was like fuck me i was like clear the way clear the way i love mambo number five it's so good tunes so good it was brilliant cheesy tunes on the night out yeah absolutely i feel like i don't know half the songs on the night out but there were these

quite a few guys that came on to katie and katie's literally like a club nancy like like men approach her and she's just like no are they i honestly think men are scared of you because they'll approach you tell the conversation about that guy tell the conversation so so to be fair this guy annoyingly

was quite attractive he was he was quite attractive me and you were dancing and our two other housemates were sat there dancing yeah then I tried to reach across

because angels came on so I was like we've got to all be together for this because it's a bonding moment. Yeah. So I reach over. This guy takes my hand, twirls me across to our group.

Oh. Yeah. He like pulled me, twirled me and put us in a group, which is then when our other housemates started to be like, oh, can I introduce you? Oh, my gosh. I didn't see this bit. So then I was kind of like, oh, can I introduce you? Oh, my gosh. I didn't see this bit. So then I was kind of like, oh, okay. But I was also having a really, really good time. I was like, I can't be asked for this, like, chit chat.

I was like, angels is on. Yeah, come on. But our housemate was pretty adamant that I speak to this man. So he introduces himself and he's like, hey. He had a bad name to be fair as well what's his name Richard

Richard Richard oh god put out that actually who gives a fuck Richard's not actually Richard

might be listening in any case Katie's still single this is all in jest Richard if you're listening maybe I was too harsh yeah

we were jumping to conclusions maybe I was too harsh. We were jumping to conclusions. Maybe I was shut off. He comes up to me. He's like, hi, how are you? I'm like, yeah, I'm really good. Thanks.

How are you? He's like, are you having a good night? So I'm like, oh, yeah, actually, like, I'm having a great night. And then he's like, but you're having the best night of your life. I'm like, yeah, like, I'm having a really good time. What about you? Do you live locally? Where are you from?

And he's like, no, no, no, no. Are you having the best night of your life? And I thought, oh, you're boring me now. I'm really bored. So then, you're boring me. So the thing that really, so I was like, oh, right. I said, well, I'm just going to go, sorry, I'm just going to go check on my friend.

And he was like, oh, I see. I i was like yeah what what else are you gonna ask me how my morning was like what i'm not sure he could be fair he could have asked you if you're having a good night he could have at least that would have been considerate i think you have such high standards though i think you do i'm near impossible well the problem is on a night out i feel like it's really hard then i come back and everyone's like why didn't you do it and i'm like i don't know i don't know about any of you guys listening if you're single girls any of you single guys there are there are times i don't like putting pressure on the night out to be like i'm gonna go out and i'm gonna pull I tell you best nights out are the spontaneous ones yeah yeah I'm not I'm not like fussed either way to be honest yeah you're pretty you're pretty like more open to having fun having a few drinks having a boogie yeah rather than being like I need to neck a guy I need to be with a guy

because to be fair you've never been a girl that needs male validation. You've been more, friendships are more important. And I know for a fact you would feel guilty if you went off with a guy and all of us were like, where is she? Yeah, get FOMO. Yeah. You'd be like, oh, I want to be with my friends. Yeah, I was having such a great time with my friends. Yeah.

I just wasn't really that bothered. So I was just like, oh, stop dragging me away. Yeah. That's just the ick, isn't it? It was the ick. And then on Sunday, the boat race. It's the most insignificant thing I've ever seen in my life. The event around the boat race.

Great. Amazing. So Arsh made a big deal about the boat race. Really, really wanted to see it. So I was like, fine, look, it's a good opportunity for me to get dressed up. I invited my school friend. You know her very well.'s an absolute baby you know who you are um and her new boyfriend which we'll come on to in a second um and yeah we were watching the boat race and I'm thinking I don't know what I was expecting Casey I thought they'd be like yachts or something like, like, you know, like a huge countdown, like New Year's. Like five, four, like poppers going off.

Yeah, yeah. They're literally these fucking canoes and people in them. And then it's like, they go past so quick. I'm like, no, I'm not slagging off the rowers because I'm sure like, good on you. Bastard that. They're quite quick as well they're very quick and I just was like and it's like ah go and I'm like oh and then they're gone

and I'm like oh I'm looking around the people like wasn't that great did I did I miss something I'm not being funny as well. The main Chelsea lot all stood up on the wall. So I'm five foot five. Lies. I was wearing my buffaloes. So I'm probably five three, but five five in the years. I couldn't see a thing. So I was like, yay. I was like, I can't see anything. Like, slug it down. Yeah, I was like, this is not right. Anyway, the main event for me was the pubs, the socialising. I've got to give it to London. Great for making an event out of nothing.

Always great. Boat race, great. But the main event was meeting my friend's boyfriend. That must have been so exciting. So exciting. I was scared, though, because she's never had a serious boyfriend before. And I knew that if she'd been wifed up, then it must be... Someone special.

Someone really special. Yeah. So then I was like, I've got pressure to like him. Yeah. What happens if I don't like him? I'm going to have to say something. Yeah. And he was lovely.

Perfect for her. She got slaughtered, like absolutely slaughtered. We went on to drinks and then we went out afterwards into this pub that we've been to before. But they turned it into a club. She was slaughtered, like spilling drinks everywhere when she was dancing. And he was just loving it.

And she'd spill a drink and then take off her jacket and give it to him. She'd spill another drink and she'd take off her coat. And I'm like, this poor fucker. I've got these layers and they were just perfect for each other they were so good but it's that pressure of your friend dating someone and you're like okay I'm gonna have to see how this goes and I think considering all of our other friends who were there who loved him yeah that was a big

green flag for me yes um you know these two guys that came up to us, like, as a group. And they were, like, just chatting and blah, blah, blah, blah. We all go off in our little group and we're dancing. We're having such a good time. We're, like, we're loving it. And I see this guy who said he had a girlfriend with his arms around this rando.

What? Like, swaying with her like this. Twiddling her around. Like spinning her around. And like full on dancing with her. What is wrong with men? What is wrong with men? Would you feel comfortable with your boyfriend going out on a night out?

Absolutely not. Absolutely not. What is going on? I know. That's sad. I don't like it when I see stuff like that. I do and maybe I'm delusional but I just know that Arch would never put me in that situation. Archie would wear a t-shirt of your face on a night out if he could. Oh. He would. But it was the fact this guy was like full on arm

around the waist like very handsy. Yeah. And I was just like, red flag. Sliming. It was a huge red flag. I was like, what? I don't like that. And I was trying to then give him looks like, I know. And I was like, who am I? I was like, I've just met him.

That's so funny. The reason I'm telling this story is because Katie, unfortunately, wasn't there. She was invited. I was not there. But't there she was invited I was not there but she had prior engagements I was not there I was at work on Sunday and I was extremely tired so I got home and I was like I'm gonna cook some dinner have a quick power nap and then I'll go join the cavalry yeah and have a great night yeah I have my dinner. I get under the covers, which was probably my first mistake. I set a timer for about 20 minutes. I wake up.

I'm in my work clothes. It is dark. And I'm like, who's one in the morning? And I was like, I've missed it. I was so sad. Because now the big event that everyone's talking about

is the boat race everyone's like oh seriously guys how great how great was the boat race I'm like extreme FOMO

I was such there was extreme FOMO even when I was chatting to our friends yesterday and they said you guys all went out

for coffee I was at work I was at work all day yesterday. I could not come for coffee. And I was like, oh, do you have a great time? Did you have a really good time? Yeah. Oh, that's good. From like one to ten, what would you say your FOMO is? Six, seven. Seven. I'm gonna stick with solidly a seven. So what would give you fame and more if our group our friendship group went out for a brunch a big brunch together and you couldn't come or our group go out clubbing together on a night out have a few drinks get slaughtered have a little boogie two hours out i actually

think i'd rather you go on the night out i knew you'd say that i knew you'd say that the brunch you have like you have little chats you have like that. The brunch, you have like, you have little chats. You have like a good time. You're in daylight. You're like, oh. Get nice photos. Yeah. Potentially do more after brunch. Or should we just go here for a bit?

Like blah, blah, blah. It could progress. But like night, the night out, you could just be dancing and be like, oh, wouldn't it be great if Katie was here? Yeah. That's what happens every night out. I'm so deluded that every time I think I'm not on a social occasion, you're just sat there miserable without me.

I sit there and think, well, they'll be missing me. Yeah, well, it doesn't really matter, does it? Yeah. I tell you what, though, I think I'd be very nervous to introduce my boyfriend to you. Really? Yeah. What? To the flat.

Yeah, yeah. I'd be quaking in my little boots would you be worried like it's a reflection on you or would you be worried that you really want us to like like what thing I'd really want you to like

like him yeah that would be so exciting though even going on a date I'd be quite scared what do you mean like a double date or date with him

double date or just a general date so so I'll practice oh he shouldn't be scared. Richard will show you how it's done. Richard's gonna be my knight in shining armour. Yeah he will be. Hopefully he'll ask me how my knight was. Ix of the week. Tell me, do you know yours? Because I know mine.

You go for yours. Okay. Oh, I don't know why, but it really gets me. It's when people know that you don't have... Okay, so I'm going to give an example. You know exactly what I'm saying. So say if you asked me for a cigarette. Yeah.

I don't smoke. So when am I ever going to have a cigarette? That's fair but barry this is a hypothetical barry next to us is a smoker and has cigarettes and has cigarettes why then do you go um kitty do you have cigarettes or when they know when they know that barry has fucking cigarettes my friend did this on the weekend. She's like, Kitty, do you have cigarettes? I'm like,

no. No. That's why you look like a corner shop. I'm like, I do not have cigarettes. And he goes around everyone who she can be sure

doesn't have cigarettes. No, and then doesn't ask Barry. And then I'm like, Barry, you're going to have to fess up. It's like gum.

It's like gum. Yes, yes. Katie, do you have gum? I know for a fact Katie doesn't have gum but who does have gum Archie yeah it it winds me up I'm like why did you do that it is yeah it's it's like silly questions silly questions get me this is do you know what actually, this is similar to my ick of the week. Okay, go on. I was at work and I don't understand why people ask a question when they know exactly what they're going to get and what the answer is. Oh, give me an example.

I used to work in a pharmacy and people used to come in with ailments and I was a pharmacy advisor. Okay. And I would advise them on what to get and sell them over-the-counter medication. Okay. People would come in with one product in mind, which wouldn't actually be the best thing for them. But they'd come in, they'd talk to me for 10 minutes about what they're feeling, how long their symptoms were, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Okay. And I'll chat with the pharmacist and be like okay what do we think i think you should get this this will be really good for you and then they'll be like actually i just read paracetamol was really

good online so i'm just gonna get that i'm like if you knew what you were gonna get why are you wasting my time it's like going in for brunch i mean like what's the soup of the day and they're like oh it's a lovely parsnip cream of of parsnips with some like ricotta cheese. Actually, do you know what? I want the toasty. What? I don't know why. It just really irks me about people.

So if you were on a date with a guy and he's like, oh, could I see the cocktail list, please? Yeah. He's looking down the list. He's like, yeah, yeah. He's like, oh, what's passion fruit thunder? And they're like, oh oh so it's you know a mixture of vodka with some syrup and a bit of uh acastera bitters and he's like oh nice

it's all right if i could just get a pint of mereti how would that go for you would you be like i'd be so confused but would you but would you actually be it would you be like oh i wouldn't be it i would just be a bit like, what? I'm really confused. Because I don't understand. Maybe it's just me. But I don't understand, like. Even, like, food shops.

Food shops, I know exactly what I'm going in for. Wow, okay. Like, unless it's, like, a treat. But then we go to the sweets art and then I'll debate. I agree with you. I think both of our icks are to do with people not being up front. And just being, you know, like, faffing around. I think both of our ics are to do with people not being upfront and just being, you know,

like faffing around. I hate faffers. Yeah. Like, why are you faffing? Like, get out of here. Faff. Great word. Faff.

I love faff. You're like, what are you faffing around? Being indecisive. Yeah. It's the same on nights out when no one knows where to go. Like,

which is why I'm quite thankful that Archie's a bit of a project manager and always has something lined up, somewhere to go or something to do or should we just go back to ours but like there's nothing worse than being a bit tipsy standing on the corner of a street being like what do we want to do now what pick something pick something why are we doing this don't want this whole rigmarole. Yeah. This whole charade.

Oh, what should we do? What should we do? Someone's got an idea. Say something. Yeah, get on with it. Say something. Crack on. Yeah.

Crack on. Do something. Yeah. So that's our ex. We'd also like you to write in to tell your ex. Please write in. I love hearing people's ex. I it email us hello at the debrief podcast

dot co dot uk and dm us at the dot debrief podcast we want to hear we want to hear it all we don't want to hear just it we want to hear about all your nights out all your feral decisions please tell us like would you dance with the Richard? Would you keep the conversation going? What do you think about Cates and Archie's beef? I want to hear about that. Friday. Do we prefer a Friday night out or a Saturday night out?

Because I'm all down for a Friday night out. You have Saturday to recover, and then on Sunday you branch and have a long walk. A long walk. A long walk. A long walk. A long walk. A long walk along the river. So now we're on to questions of the week. The week.

We have our serious, we have our silly. This week I'm going to take on serious. Yeah. You're going to take on silly. And as always, we will start with the serious. Yeah. So, Katie. Yeah. You're going to take on Silly and as always we will start with the Sirius. So Katie. Yes. I ask you would you ever live by yourself? No. This is very on brand because everyone is fleeing the nest. Everyone's fleeing the nest. For Easter. And then, let's not talk about it, but Kitty then departs the country. I do.

For quite a while. I do. And I'm very sad about it. I'm off with a little girl's trip with my mother to rest. To Down Under. Off to Australia. Yeah. So I'm going to be away for quite a few weeks.

But you're going to be away for a few weeks in Australia. But then you're obviously celebrating Easter with Arch's family. Yeah. And then you're going a week before that. So I'm not going to see you for like a month. Which, that's pretty sad. I have the flat alone, like by myself. For how long?

For seven days. Okay, seven days. Seven days. The longest stint I've done is five days. That was the worst five days of my life. Wow. I am... See, the problem is, I like the flat by myself when I know people are coming back.

Okay, interesting. If I come home, the flat's empty. I'm like, brilliant. I'll just do a face mask. I'll shower with the door open. Okay, okay. I'll, like, sing as loud as I like. Love it.

But when I come back, and then it's like silence. And then I'm like, I'm just going to be like this for a week. It's scary. I couldn't live by myself. I need human interaction. I used to think, well, the thing is, I'm quite an independent person. I like my own time. Yeah.

I like time to myself. I like my space. Yeah. However, I can't live alone. Okay. Could you? No. to myself i like my space yeah however i can't live alone okay could you no we listen to the girls bathroom a lot love that podcast shout out to chintzy and sophia love you girlies yeah um and they talk about a lot yeah and i've reflected about living on my own a lot and i i don't think i would no no I think I think I could live with one other part

like I think I could live just you and me yeah um and if I was put in a situation where so say if we were in a in a block building where I had a studio but there were other people in the building yes I think I could do that I could do that I still have you next door or I still have you on the floor above where we can go for coffee but but being isolated in an area where if I need something or need someone or yeah I don't know I just want to come home and have a bit of a goss literally I I don't think I could do it I because I rely on it so much coming back having a bit of chat with all of our friends yeah in the um kitchen and just being over and then pissing off to all of our own rooms yeah coming back and it being silent because you have you ever been in the flat by yourself for a long amount of time

no other than a day it's awful not not overnight 100 not overnight really no it's so scary because usually arch is with me yeah i don't like it yeah i could not do it i absolutely couldn't i really rate people that can i do i think if you did you'd have to be a very sociable person i agree because you'd always have to have something on yeah which i'm sociable or dedicated to the grind your work is your life yeah and that there's nothing else yeah and really your home is where you rest your head honestly we're not slagging off at all people who live on their own because i think it's something that i couldn't do no um i couldn't do it so i rate i rate you and katie what is your silly question so would you rather you're at a party yeah every single

person you fancy he speaks to you you piss yourself like you were yourself okay every time a guy you fancy comes up to you or every guy that you fancy and you speak to you scream at when you talk do I just scream in their face or am I like yeah good yeah yeah yeah oh my god but like but like but I'm not in a loud situation like you're in the living room oh why am i doing that you're you're sat there and he's like yeah so i just think you're really hard you're like you're fucking fit and like you're screaming but is it constant or is it like the first five minutes i meet them no no like you have no the entire evening say we have a house party and you think he's really fit

and you're trying to like graft him. The entire evening you have to scream at him or you're constantly pissing yourself. Constantly? If you're speaking to one person that you fancy and then the vibe's going well, you'll be pissing. Not a lot, but it's trickling. I'll take the piss. well you'll be pissing not a lot but it's trickling i'll take the piss would you

i would because i would wear one of those adult panty things yeah yeah and then i would it'd make my batty look bigger as well so i'm like i might get the padding bonus yeah and then i'd wear like jeans or something and then they wouldn't be able to tell and then if I'm weeing I'd be like and it's only a little bit isn't it it's like a trickle okay that's fine I can take that on you'd we yourself yeah and I feel like I have a good face to try like hold it I don't think I'd be like I feel like I could be chilled I feel like I could be like yeah and not like but the screaming I feel like I could be chilled. I feel like I could be like... Yeah.

And not... But the screaming... The screaming... The screaming, I don't think I could be able to take with. But I was... Good time of my life. My day's been fantastic. I'd be like, oh... And that would annoy me, actually.

That would severely annoy me. Yeah. Yeah, that would give myself the ache. So I'd have to say we myself just a little bit. Yeah. That would severely annoy me. Yeah. Yeah, that would give myself the ache. So I'd have to save myself just a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. I back that. Yeah.

And then I can always go clean myself up halfway through the evening if it's got a bit too much. You know. Change panties. Change the panties. Yeah, exactly. I love that question, Katie. Great.

Thank you. That was brilliant. Thank you. Right, guys. That's it. That brings us to the end. Dry your eyes. Dry your eyes.

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