The Debrief - The Bullies & The Bra Fittings

Episode Date: November 13, 2023

Welcome back to The Debrief! In this episode we delve deep into the topic of bullying and discuss our first bra fittings and yours too! Don’t forget to email us at: hello@thedebriefpodcast.co.uk We ...hope you have a fabulous week! Kitty and Katie x Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 🎵 I've got a rebel soul. Yeah, I've got a rebel soul. I've got a rebel soul. 🎵 Hello! Hey guys. Hey guys. It's Monday morning. I was so excited yesterday, on Sunday. Yeah. Being like, tomorrow I get a debrief.
Starting point is 00:00:23 With my debriefer. With the debriefies. With a debrief with my debriefer with the debriefies with the debriefed oh i love it i absolutely love it now paul peachington is not feeling too good oh my god the lurgy has been following me around the lurgy wants to fucking shag me like honestly he's obsessed made me lose my voice you heard last week and now he's giving me a chest infection are you kidding are you kidding are you kidding that it's just muggy that well someone wants me around for longer have you had your flu job yet no she can't get your flu jab when you're unwell oh no of course you can't then what if i know in
Starting point is 00:01:01 my life i'd get like a mega flu. I'd be out until New Year's. I'd be like, guys, I'm not coming. Oh my God, that'd be awful. I'd get a mega flu. Kit's well. I'm fucking. Kit's carrying the health for the both of us. Did a 15K this morning, my friends.
Starting point is 00:01:18 Bish, bash, fuckity boy. It's your time. Oh, I loved it. I absolutely loved it. but it's actually quite demoralizing when you think you're putting your absolute best into it and someone seems fast you he's running and you're like hey they just must be training for sprinting or something yeah they must be they must be it's the only logical explanation yeah yeah they must have had one of those you know things you get in airports those little escalators did you look were they
Starting point is 00:01:44 on rollerblades oh i definitely know for sure two men that go around battering like helis that run yeah in their helis oh my god helis i was never ever have helis no i didn't and to be fair i whilst i was upset at the time that my parents denied me the luxury of scooting around Tesco's on my fucking Heelys. I think if I got them, I would have been a liability. Yeah. A liability. Your fucking ankles, my ankles, our weak ankles, Peach.
Starting point is 00:02:14 My balance. I once tipped a trolley on me once in Tesco's as a child. Were you that kid that was always hanging on, yeah, hanging on the bar to ride the, like, wee. And I tipped the shopping cart on top of me. On top of you. On top of me. On top of you. And then I looked like a fool, didn't I?
Starting point is 00:02:30 So imagine that with my fucking Heelys on. With all this stuff in the trolley. Oh, yeah. And my mum was like, what have you done? Rock Peach, let's go on to mantra time. Mantras. Tell me your mantra. I want to hear it. mine's a bit clunky
Starting point is 00:02:46 but it makes sense to me oh mine is no one is thinking your thoughts oh okay so i've been really in my head this week with lots of oh my god and i usually am not but for some reason this week maybe it's because i'm unwell i'm not giving it my all i'm feeling very conscious that i'm not giving it my all bless you okay so i'm like worried that everyone has these perceptions of me and oh my god like she's not doing this she's not doing that and i was late today because i had an issue on the tube and i thought oh my god they're gonna think i can't keep time and blah blah and i blah. And I'm like, realistically, no one's thinking that. No, no. And that's a really good one to tell yourself
Starting point is 00:03:28 because actually your biggest enemy, not you, just life, humanity in general, biggest enemy is in a monologue. Yes. And telling us, why are you doing that? You look shit. Why did you say that? That's so embarrassing.
Starting point is 00:03:41 Literally. No one's thinking that. No one's thinking that. No one is thinking my thoughts. Was that it? Yeah. Yeah, that's nice. That's really, really nice no one's thinking no one is thinking my thoughts was that it yeah yeah that's nice that's really really nice it's just been really quieting down the noise okay this week has your inner monologue been quite negative yes i'm like hey girl get with the program hey girl think of yourself and tesco's that time chin up yeah chin up cheer up, best butter girl. Cheer up.
Starting point is 00:04:05 There's nothing worse when someone's in a bad mood. You're like, cheer up. Cheer up. Or what's the other one? Chill out. Why in a bad mood? Oh, I tell you, when you're really angry and someone goes to you, oh, chill out.
Starting point is 00:04:17 I could, I, at that point, at that point, spread me archer's cheeks because a fire will come out my anus because that's how angry I am. I will shoot into the air like a rocket what visceral i will shoot into the air like a rocket if i'm livid at you and you're like oh chill out fuck calm down calm down now i've had enough there what's your mantra my mantra this week is i am growing into the best version of me hell yeah you are hell yeah bitches every damn day every damn day i'm growing into the best version of myself of me even yeah best version of me yeah because um i was talking a lot with a friend this week and she was telling me some experiences that she's had recently
Starting point is 00:05:05 and they just seemed not what not actions that she was doing just the people around her very childish and i thought that's things you do in high school because we can all reflect and look back and think i did not handle that well yeah or i did not say that in a kind way. But you think you grow up and most people mature and you develop into a better person. Potentially you meet people who make you better as well. I know I certainly have in my life. And I thought, gosh, there's so much, some people are still holding on to so much of the past.
Starting point is 00:05:43 And you really need to grow as an individual. You know, are age older yes i just thought come on right that's a bit and then i reflected on myself and thought i'm perfect i was like i'm fucking brilliant because i am the best version of myself right now yeah you are anyways peach let's crack onto songs but we usually sing it but i'm gonna say don't sing it okay oh because i'm like i'm just vocal rest oh my god actually i went to a play the other night yeah and this like girl in the audience was clearly from the drama school yeah but she wasn't involved with the play and she had a badge that said i'm on vocal rest i love it that's like a badge nothing peach needs one of them i know we're gonna do x but nothing actually icks me out more when is when it's like a badge. Peach needs one of them. I know we're going to do icks, but nothing actually icks me out more
Starting point is 00:06:25 when it's like, I can't talk, I'm on vocal rest. I literally am like, who do I think I am? I know. Madonna. Who do I think I am? You're the big shot.
Starting point is 00:06:32 That's what you are. Yeah, big shot. Now tell me a song, but don't sing it. My song is Cherry Wine by Hosia. Great song. Great fucking song. Great song.
Starting point is 00:06:42 And it's like, it's getting cold. I can imagine listening to it sat by a fire. It's quite sexy as well. It's a very sexy song. Great song. And it's like, it's getting cold. I can imagine listening to it sat by a fire. It's quite sexy as well. Very sexy song. And I'm like, kind of just all got my heated blanket on, cuddling into bed.
Starting point is 00:06:53 And I'm like, cherry wine. Yeah, it's nothing sexier than a heated blanket. I tell you. That was my first thought. Yes. As soon as I got it out. As soon as I got my electric dreamland heated blanket.
Starting point is 00:07:04 And it's a lovely mustard colour as well. It's a bit of an aphrodisiac. Okay, so my song is because I'm not being funny guys, we've left Halloween and you know when it's November for me
Starting point is 00:07:19 that means the start of Christmas. So I'm going to sing you my favourite Christmas song. So I'm going to sing you my favorite Christmas song, okay? If I shut my eyes. Driving home for Christmas. Fucking sensational. I can't wait to see those faces. Driving home for Christmas.
Starting point is 00:07:41 Yeah. Yeah. Best fucking song. I'm not being funny. We've had Halloween. You you throw halloween in the bin so guys for me i don't know about anyone else but for me i would say as soon as no november hits boom put your tree up i do not if someone said to me kit i'm gonna put my tree up on november 1st i'll be like of course you can yes but anytime like in october what are you doing
Starting point is 00:08:02 i usually wait until probably post-bonfire night. Yeah, that's fair. That's fair. And then I start to get festive. Festively fun. Festively fun. Right, let's go on to our next bit before we start the deep breathe. The deep breathe.
Starting point is 00:08:17 Recommendation. Recommendation. Recommendation. And actually this week, our recommendation is ourselves. Yeah. No, genuinely. I'm getting so confused because i haven't told her this i know we're all about self-love on this podcast but seriously okay why is it our recommendation is not just us it's the d brief podcast because guys we entered a competition oh my god we've got some good news for you we entered a competition common sense studios yes um host a 10-hour program where all different creatives um creative kind of projects sign up and there were over 270 signed up um to work on their creative project
Starting point is 00:09:07 and 10 were picked and we were one of the 10 us mugs us us bloody mugs mugs literally when we got the text they were like congratulations i was like are you sure i was like are you are you 100 sure so the recommendation is me is is me. Is me. You can't get better than this bloody content in this room. So exciting. Okay, Katie, let's do it. Okay, you ready?
Starting point is 00:09:38 Let's stay brave. So we're going to start the section off this week with talking about bullying yes um now bullying the term bullying what does that mean to you that word i personally think it is an individual or a group yeah purposefully excluding a singular person okay based on their judgment of them or their dislike okay or their perception but it's someone going out of their way to isolate someone absolutely in my eyes um and the definition i mean you put that so eloquently the definition of bullying is to seek harm slash intimidate or coerce someone perceived as
Starting point is 00:10:27 vulnerable and it's an interesting term bullying because for me personally it really resonates with when you're young in your younger years yes yeah yeah so when there's bullying is used i always think of to a child but i have come to realize that that bullying in some cases can still go on which is arguably a lot fucking harder yeah a lot harder older years i mean at uni or the workplace i mean come on you think at that point that's it's to do with my mantra this week yeah you think as you grow up because oh my gosh to do with bullying yeah you look back and you reflect on the experiences you have had and you think there were many things I did not get right how am I going to learn from
Starting point is 00:11:20 this yeah and that's what you do learn from yeah and then so you grow and and i will tell you one of my biggest examples is that when i was at school i would have been about 13 yeah i told a fib and oh my gosh did it come to bite me in the ass ever since then i've been so big on the truth yes i'm almost obsessively so i've said to someone you know oh this or this and then no i definitely did say that you know and I think you just but from my example I'm giving there is that you learn things from when you're younger and you take them throughout your life and that was my life lesson yeah that you should be truthful and that you should be upfront and honest with things going on otherwise it will
Starting point is 00:12:00 bite you in the bum and it's interesting that there are certain characters that don't Otherwise it will bite you in the bum. And it's interesting that there are certain characters that don't recognize they need to grow and move on from that. Yes. Did you experience bullying when you were younger or at any point in your life? I very much experienced it.
Starting point is 00:12:16 Okay. And again, it was something that, it's a horrible thing. Awful. It's a horrible thing. And you know, I said it's harder in older years. It doesn't mean it's not really a horrible thing awful it's a horrible thing and you know i said it is harder in older years it doesn't mean it's not really shit when you're younger no no and i think the because it changes you it does yeah and it was something that because we touched on it briefly a few episodes ago i i had to move schools because we, essentially it was a class that there was a big ringleader of the class
Starting point is 00:12:49 and they were all very scared of her. She didn't like me. Wow. Was there a reason for that? Did you have an argument? No, I genuinely wouldn't say boo to a goose. We were also mixed years in that class. So I was like the year below.
Starting point is 00:13:01 She was in the older year. so I was like the year below she was in the older year um like it was just one of those things that she made it a thing of making sure every single person in that class did not speak to me wow or even acknowledge me wow and that kind of bullying is social bullying yeah there are different categories of bullying there's physical well mean, there's so many, but the three main are physical, verbal and social. Yes. And that was social. That was isolating you, making you feel lonely.
Starting point is 00:13:32 Yeah. Oh, gosh. And what happened from there? Well, it was one of those things, like no one would talk to me. It would be like, it was literally like they play a game. If you speak to Katie, like you are not friends with us. like it was a whole like it was a real thing and i remember being really upset and the teachers at the time were like you're just being dramatic like it's
Starting point is 00:13:52 character building and i think it's just one of those things that i it got to the point where it was just never never ending it wasn't gonna stop how old were you i was like seven or eight okay oh you're so young i know such little diddums yeah um but it was yeah it was just ridiculous how even at that age you know how to isolate someone or yeah but it's just so strange to me because i obviously left that school but it was a like a local village primary school that was like before um so i still saw these people around and stuff and it's crazy to me how and you keep tabs on people you always do yeah how our lives have gone in a complete opposite trajectory we used to do guides together oh my god and i can confidently say that i'm much better socially now wow than this other girl was okay okay and it
Starting point is 00:14:47 kind of switched where she was then like really shy and really insecure and that's where it all comes from of course it does it come it usually does come from some insecurity or jealousy or that there's just something not right and that sometimes can be that there's something going on at home or in your life that it's deeper than the surface yeah i always like to give people grace yeah um and always like to you know if someone says something shitty to me if someone's being repetitively a bit shit yeah i try to be like it's not directed at me yeah it's being off like they're projecting onto me okay which i think is all fair and well but i think you do need to stand up for yourself yeah if anything which is terrifying which is
Starting point is 00:15:34 something i don't really do often yeah it can be so hard but i think especially if you feel isolated that you don't have the people to back you up yeah and i think if anyone's listening that likes to give people the grace and get oh well no they didn't mean it like that and i'm sure like don't put yourself down and let you take the back seat and the brunt of that because they need to know that's not okay yeah and you can say it in a very respectful way and how do you think that experience of what you went through when you were bullied when you were young how did that shape you and do you think that it still affects you now i think that's in your character i think that's exactly what i've done in the sense that i you know this person was so horrible and so cruel but i could tell like i knew there was a
Starting point is 00:16:21 lot going on and it's what your parents would say as well like that there's always something else going on you're not the issue yeah um they're just clearly insecure they're threatened they're upset they've got a lot going on in their life and you know and whilst I get that and understand that I think I owed it to myself I think it's hard to say when you're seven or eight but in other situations i feel like in social situations in secondary school in sixth form like in uni if someone said something shitty to me yeah i will just hold my tongue and take it yeah being like oh well i guess not yeah than actively say oh actually i didn't appreciate that interesting which is something that i'm trying to do more of
Starting point is 00:17:07 again um but definitely something that i've noticed as a pattern i think is a result of that okay have you ever had an experience with bullying um i have been quite lucky that i've had good experiences at school but like everyone and I truly believe everyone has, I have had a few times where I reflect back and think, yeah, it wasn't the best time of my life. And I think everyone at school has a period in that time where things are uneasy and hard to work through. And it could be to do with anything because at that age it's such a vital age of hormones and trying to work out who you are that everyone has a bit of a what
Starting point is 00:17:56 is going on right now yes um i did have a bit of a situation where there was some unkindness and this was a result of something that I did and so I look back and think you know there was a bit of retaliation there yeah and what I this is when I taught told my porcupine yeah when I told him porcupine that was a very immature and childish thing to do. And you look back and you think, oh, God, what a load of nonsense. I was surprised because there was a certain group that did turn on me. And that's more. It was really interesting.
Starting point is 00:18:39 It was clearly a retaliation, which, you know, is understanding. And I understood why they were angry. I understood, and that's almost harder because that isolation that you went through, there was no understanding there. There was no rhyme or reason. Whereas I was like, yeah, I did make a bit of a mistake. What resulted from that I don't think was valid,
Starting point is 00:19:03 and I think was taken too far yeah um it was more there are a few physical things um that was just a bit with girls i think boys punch out don't they they punch they give a punch and and this is stereotypical. I always do this. But usually men use their violence, use their anger, use that testosterone to get out that confrontation. Don't you really use a lot of words? Do that. And then they're kind of sorted.
Starting point is 00:19:40 Girls are kind of the opposite. Oh my God. Lots of words, lots of verbal abuse, lots of verbal bullying. Whereas I think I experienced a bit of both right um of the physical yeah the physical was very uneasy because i'd never experienced that no and one of and it was from girls um one of the girls i didn't really know that well as well and And she just kind of joined the group. Yeah. And, you know, took it out on me. And I think that probably was to rise into that group. Right. To get a bit of, yeah, look what I did.
Starting point is 00:20:11 Which I was like, you know, that's fine. But there was verbal times. There were a few that, I mean, it was so confusing. Because these girls were my ride or die at the time. I was so close with them. They knew everything. I knew everything about them and then all of a sudden it changes yes and there's a nastiness yeah and you don't understand
Starting point is 00:20:33 what's going on some of them and i will say some of them were never nasty just to avoid it like the plague you know which i look back and think you know what it was a really hard environment it's a toxic environment you you can't stand up for yourself because you're scared of what other people are going to do so i kind of thought fair yeah but the ones that were absolutely on the attack yeah came from nowhere in the sense of oh my gosh yesterday we were such good friends so i did go through that time and i look back and actually i think i think i needed it to give me a bit of um of a wake-up call yeah you know you don't need to lie about things or to help porcupines be yourself and being yourself is enough so for me that impacted my life massively yes and i look back and think oh god
Starting point is 00:21:25 bloody hell there was a lot of tears and there was you know a lot of a lot of hard moments there yeah but how lucky am i that i actually got such a positive out of it that i'm now so conscious about the truth and want to make sure that things are truthful and that i do the right thing and that I am a good friend yes and and I hope and I genuinely do hope that people who have been through hard bullying and situations can come out and see a positive from it I mean it's so hard because it is yeah although I experienced something which we all do I did not experience the worst you know yeah where I'm sure some people have really experienced some hard things that are going on and i think it's so different when we were little the things that were bullied yeah or things that were triggered in a childish playground are not what
Starting point is 00:22:18 are triggered now yeah it's so different i feel like it does give you a good coping mechanism yes and i feel like that's not a bad thing to have no because people who haven't experienced that when they do come across hardship or they come across you know anything difficult there's a coping mechanism that you have to have in that sense because you really like the only person that could kind of pull yourself out of feeling as isolated as you do is like yourself and your family and the people around you yeah um it just makes you stronger yeah it does in a horrible way but there there's always a lesson there is always a lesson and i and i truly hope that everything does happen for a reason um with a friend speaking to me recently about a bit of trouble at uni it's really confusing you think oh my gosh have we not been through all of this
Starting point is 00:23:18 have we not had this nonsense at primary school high school that would not have this year because when it's uni i feel like we're all old enough yeah you're just threatened yeah it's not like you don't like me no you're just clearly yeah it's a good that's a good way secure and threatened and also at uni there are so many people at uni that you have an opportunity to actually meet people that are your people yeah at school there are such a limited amount of people everyone knows your business everyone knows your family or your situation going on maybe ex-boyfriends ex-girlfriend uni's a new start so you can be or do or whatever you want to yeah um so it's like why are you wasting your time when there are literally hundreds of other people on campus
Starting point is 00:24:05 that you can go and buddy up with? Yeah, completely. I just think that's really malicious, the older you get. The older you get, I think... Because it's more calculated. It is. That you're not being silly anymore. You're not being childish
Starting point is 00:24:17 and maybe trying to be the most popular girl around or the alpha of the group. At that point, you have more life experience and more intelligence that it is actually nasty. And then that's a self-reflection on, is that someone that you want to be? And I just urge people that when you grow up, just treat people the way you want to be treated.
Starting point is 00:24:43 If your son, your daughter, if you're at an age now that you're a uni or a workplace there is a possibility that you might have a son or daughter think if your son or daughter came home and they said to you oh this happened to me at school they called me this they did this to me they said and you're doing that in the workplace yeah you're doing that at uni why it's. Or you're doing that at uni. Why? It's terrible. There's honestly no explanation for it. When you look back,
Starting point is 00:25:09 when you're younger, when you're a little bean, you think, oh my God, how embarrassing was that? Like I need to get a grip. And you learn so much from it. When are you going to have to stop until you learn?
Starting point is 00:25:20 Yes. When are you going to learn? Yeah, literally. It's just, it's a power thing isn't it yeah it's such a power play just concoction of horribleness it absolutely is but i completely agree when it's like would you want this happening to your own child would you no exactly i think it goes back to giving people grace.
Starting point is 00:25:46 There are going to be people in life that you don't like. Of course there are. Oh my God, of course there are. There are going to be people that really annoy you. There are going to be some absolute wackadoodles that are going to fuck you off and that's fine. But I don't think you need to... I'm not saying to love everyone. But you don't need to go out your way to make that person know how much you dislike them.
Starting point is 00:26:04 Or make them feel shit. That's just, that's too far. When you have remained kind and you have remained good and moral, you come out of the situation feeling so good. Yeah, because you've done nothing. You have no guilt. You have no regrets. You think, oh my gosh, that was really hard because I can't stand you, but I was so good.
Starting point is 00:26:24 Yes. Yeah, it's just let them do what they do let them do them let them do their thing let them do their thing just watch and acknowledge yes just be like i'm gonna let you do that i'm not gonna see eye to eye with you no but i'm just gonna carry on being kind absolutely it's so true i just want to quickly say before we move on as well is that if you're experiencing some of these things a lot of other people do as well and i'm not belittling how you feel in particular because there are some more severe situations yeah and if you are in that
Starting point is 00:26:57 place please do seek help with counseling and because we can't advise with that kind of thing. But with picking on and verbal abuse, 99% of people have experienced that. And actually 40% of young people right now have been bullied in the last 12 months. 40% of young people. That's really sad. It's a big number. It's too big a number.
Starting point is 00:27:24 And that's only the 40 that have emitted it um so i'm trying to reassure you that you're not alone yes and that other people are finding things tough as well yeah and that there is a plan yes i i really hope that there's something that comes out of this that's positive you always come out on top that's what my mum would always say yeah it always swings back round to you yeah karma karma well it's what katie said hey that girl that was nasty to you and now you're like well yeah karma karma honestly honestly i know what you're doing i know where you are i don't know where you bloody don't case got her in a basement i've got you on facebook i know where you are right let's
Starting point is 00:28:05 move on let's love you debriefers okay so peach tell me what's your week been like my week my week's been good bar me spluttering into every every pillow every sheet i know what a silly woman um so i have recently redownloaded Hinge oh my god this is exciting which has been really exciting I've come out of my shell Hinge Hinge Hinge Hinge Hinge Hinge let's find Casey a husband
Starting point is 00:28:31 oh it's dating time oh it's dating time at the zoo so I'm I have my location set okay three
Starting point is 00:28:41 like towns near us okay and I've been scrolling through and sending out my likes and all that love it love it love it last night i'm scrolling through i'm like oh lovely and it's hinged the one where you get like a little profile about yeah yeah okay cool um and then a message pops up from from hinge from the guy and it's no no from oh from hinge in general and it says we have no more men for you
Starting point is 00:29:08 it's like we have no more men in these areas to show you you've gone through them all oh my god and you've like like three of them so if you're one of those three, please. This is a public service announcement to say, get in contact with her. Please respond, because I've now exhausted all the options, apparently. You have no options anymore. I've run out of options.
Starting point is 00:29:39 I bet, were you livid? I was, fuck. I was pissing myself. I was like, of course, of course of course only i only i could get through and that no more men in london for you there's not a single penis out there there is no soul in london left for you so what are you gonna do now then you're just gonna have to go stand on the street are you on hinge because if they say no then you haven't swiped on them so yeah yeah i'm just going to have to wait for people to join Hinge. Are you on Hinge? Because if they say no, then you haven't swiped on them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm just going to have to wait for some more single men to sign up.
Starting point is 00:30:09 Yeah. Yeah. I'll be checking. How's your week been? Do you know what? My week's been really good, actually. I've been on High Vibes. But I did have a funny experience.
Starting point is 00:30:19 So I went to go get a bra fitting. That's exciting. So I've always known my size. Yeah. Well, well, well. I say I've always known my size yeah well well well i say you've i've always known my size it's so guys just usually to tell you it's a double d yes yes yes yes all right not boasting that it's not boasting it's not boasting it's fact it's fact and but within where
Starting point is 00:30:39 we all know this as girls yeah whatever shop you go to they'll tell you something different yeah but it's usually a d e r f so went into rigby and pellet really nice bra shop yeah i just said look i just want to get a sizing like blah blah blah yeah fine and anyway going and i mean i mean funny fucking hell girls getting a bra sizing is jenny it is the i haven't had one in years it is so weird it's just so weird so you have to get your tits out, don't you? You get your tits out. And they're just studying. They literally study you like you're a fucking exam. They're like, hmm.
Starting point is 00:31:10 Anyway, I go in. And I go into the little stall. Yeah. And take my top off. And they're like, fine. Anyway, they fit me. And it's all like, great. And then I said, oh, could I just ask what size am I?
Starting point is 00:31:22 And they're like, oh, you're a B. I said a fucking B. I was like, I'm not? And they're like, oh, you're a B. I said a fucking B. I was like, I'm not being funny. I got two space hoppers on my chest. You're fucking kidding me. A B. I was like, I'm not. No, girls, this is no hate out there because Bs, you've got great tits.
Starting point is 00:31:39 But I'm not a B. No, but like if you. I'm not being funny. I have to rest my tits on the table sometimes. Like you have such enormous titties thank you but when they said a b i was like a b did you tap what were you like oh well i showed them my bra the bra that i came in yeah which is a double d yeah and that's not the right size i'm like look at the fucking fit look look look at the fit there you are tits out and you're like look at me look yes look look at me literally like top up look at my
Starting point is 00:32:14 boobs i started to ask the debrief girls yeah let's talk about brow sizing stories okay yeah because they are for boys out there so basically my dad not yeah you were listening you literally go in you ask for a bra size you usually have to then get your tits out in front of a rando yeah and then they usually tell your size and all that kind of stuff yeah anyway so i asked the girls i've got some fucking cracking stories oh my god one girl goes to me basically i've got two watermelons so must be a b then a fucking b yeah double a she's flat chested she's flat chested that's fine good girl yeah and when i went for a bra fitting oh all the larger cup sizes were boring oh my god i feel you not being funny sometimes i'll like look at my actual size yeah a double day a double
Starting point is 00:33:00 day and i'm literally just like um see i don't yeah uh i was like what the fuck is going on here yeah i'm like they so a's they've got like this sexy little lace okay the b's they've got the fucking plunge and you're like yeah the c's they've got a bit of sequence they get to d and they think fuck it give them a fucking beige i'm like a beige fucking clean bra give them i'm like get it off me i look like one of those naked mole rats like just a plain beige bra over me i'm like a beige fucking clean bra give them i'm like get it off me i look like one of those naked mole rats like just a plain beige bra over me i'm like oh my god what's going on i look like the end of a cornetto i'm like that is disgusting like give me i'm like give me some secret give me some lace give me some fucking spies so girl i get you anyway yeah so i squeezed into one that was sexy but way too small the shop woman said that the
Starting point is 00:33:54 size was way too small and i shouldn't get it oh she said fuck it i did yeah good on you good woman double down put on a low-cut top and i felt great brilliant says i knew they were popping out but i couldn't work out why everyone was staring at me all day oh god oh no oh no oh no oh no did she have a nipple out so i went in so i went into the toilets in the shopping mall yeah oh god and saw my nips were popping out of the top of my tiny bra. Nipple. Imagine putting your bra on when your nips are just like Mike Wazowski at the top, like having a look.
Starting point is 00:34:33 Chlorine out. You're right there. You're right. Free the nip. I'm being funny. Would you not feel that? Surely you'd feel your nip coming out. Surely you'd feel your nippy a bit like.
Starting point is 00:34:40 Yeah, it'd get a bit chilly. Oh, my God. If my nippy was like just winking at everyone as i walk past like what are you doing out there so this other girl said to me i had a woman come measure me in the middle of the shop floor by quickly whipping a tape measure around my boobs over my top then declared 32 small a cup then walked off oh my god in the middle of the store actually no embrace it embrace it imagine her just walking up to you like whipping a tape around you like the fucking fairy godmother and then she's like yeah really small what we've spoken about which i think is
Starting point is 00:35:17 hilarious is you're a double d yeah well clearly not i genuinely think one tit of yours is bigger than my two tits combined but i i feel like i have fairly i've a fairly average size tit no you've got lovely tits um but i got measured yeah and they were like you're a 32d now i think that is a lie like no they must have got us confused oh my god no way they said i was a 32d and i was like go girl and i was like victoria's secret i am not a 32d but now i'm too scared now i should probably go get a bra fitting because i don't really know my size so exciting what do you think you are i'd say i'm a i'm like a C cup. Yeah, I would say so. Yeah. Anyway, let me read you another one.
Starting point is 00:36:07 Okay. So I whipped my top off in the changing rooms. The woman measured me while I was topless. And then I asked her, what's my size? And she said, why bother? That's so rude. That is so rude. That's so, why? Why bother?'s so why why bother all right karen all right i'm so sorry for that
Starting point is 00:36:30 girl that is really yeah that is so mean i'm sure they were absolutely beautiful so you've never taken your top off in front of them no is there a reason for that i remember well i've only ever had one bra fitting and that was when i was younger, for my first bra. Oh my god, did you shit yourself? Tell me about your first bra fitting. Well, it was a store in Cambridge. How old were you? I was like 13. Okay.
Starting point is 00:36:51 It was a store in Cambridge called Triumph. Oh, love that. And literally, my sister went there to get her first bras, so I was like, oh my god, I'm so excited. And then we went. Oh, so you were excited? Oh, I was so excited. Okay.
Starting point is 00:37:02 I was like, woman. Then obviously, because I was like a child they were like oh don't get your tits out because you're a child that would be weird and then the second time i was in victoria's secret i said oh can i get a bra fitting and then she was like oh yeah arms up because they have like the tape measures around their necks so they were like oh yeah yeah so i was just like oh so i guess i need to get my tits out you need to get your tits out for a woman tell you that's so funny though that you actually were really looking forward to your first bra So, guess I need to get my tits out. You need to get your tits out for a woman. Tell ya, that's so funny though,
Starting point is 00:37:26 that you actually were really looking forward to your first bra fitting. I cried. Did you? I cried. Why? Because I was still in my crop tops. Like, not being funny,
Starting point is 00:37:34 I had Mount Vesuvius on me fucking chest. I was in denial. And I had me little crop tops that had Peppa Pig on. And I was like, I don't want a bra! I was like, I don't want a bra! And I remember being, and it was also official. Like, it was really, really official. And I remember when I went like, I don't want to brah. I was like, I don't want to brah. And I remember being, and it was also official. Like, it was really, really official. And I remember when I went in, and it was just,
Starting point is 00:37:50 see, the store was more of a mature store. It wasn't like a pink or Victoria's Secret, where I felt all girly and like, down with the kids. I felt like a grandmother. So I was literally like Nanny McFhee going in with me tits between me legs and I was just like Snoopy I was so scared and then all of a sudden they're making me strip
Starting point is 00:38:12 off and tuck me boobs in these boulder holder machines and I'm just like it's not the vibe I remember just she was like putting it on me and I was crying she was like why are you crying I was like oh bless you I was like I'm just so not ready for this I was like because I when I when I got my boobs in I literally started my period boom boom came at once all came at once did it take you a while or did they no it took me a while that's
Starting point is 00:38:37 why I think I'm so excited because I was just waiting for them to be big enough so I could get a bra oh do you have bigger boobs than your sister? No, my sister has really big boobs. Oh, does she? Yeah. So I was like, oh, we're so jealous. Oh. I was like, come on. Oh my God, I've got a great one for you actually.
Starting point is 00:38:54 So my mom has a sister as well. And my auntie had really, really big boobs when she was younger. Yeah. And my mom's like, she was pretty flat chested growing up. She said the moment she started her period, boobs when she was young yeah and my mum's like she was pretty flat chested growing up she said the moment she started her period she ran to the mirror pulled her top up over her head to look in the mirror to see if her boobs would come in i mean how cute is that that is adorable anyway so
Starting point is 00:39:18 her sister had pretty big boobs yeah she had mosquito bites oh it's so funny so she's like for christmas her mum got her these pack of like little bras and she was like oh you know the little training bras they're so small and barely anything in them she was she was like i couldn't fit anything in yeah she put one on she was like oh yeah looking good looking good looking fresh yeah yeah yeah put a second one on over the top thought do you know what just need a bit more of a lift she put all 10 on she she put she you weren't expecting that katie she put all 10 bras on she literally put all 10 bras on 10 10 10 10 that's not the story is that she she went she went into the the store like i don't know like a tesco's or whatever yeah but the store, like, I don't know, like a Tesco's or whatever. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:05 But the store was the place where she got the bras from and she hadn't taken the tags off yet. So anyway, she went through the machine and it beat. No. And then she shut herself. And the guy was like, why are you wearing 10 bras? And she was like. I mean, that was sweet for her. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:40:22 Oh, bless her. Bless her. That was so cute. Love it. Mine is, when people say, refer to their stomach as their tummy, I really, it really unsettles me, deeply in my soul,
Starting point is 00:40:43 where I'm like, oh, you're right. Oh, yeah, it's just my tummy hurts got bad tummy stop that right now is it everyone if everyone like any child shut up what's worse oh my belly shush shush shush okay so basically the other day i was in covent garden and um i'm listening to uncanny at the moment the uncanny is the ghost story on spotify and it's so good guys when i tell you i've got addicted i wake up go for my run i'm listening to up, go for my run. I'm listening to it. I finish, go in the shower. I'm listening to it.
Starting point is 00:41:27 But I'm not being funny. I'm on edge. When I tell you I'm on edge at the moment, Archie played a trick on me. And I genuinely almost cried. We were in bed. Turned around. And he wasn't fucking there.
Starting point is 00:41:38 I genuinely was about to scream. And I was like, Archie! Archie! And then looked down the side of the bed thought he was going to be at the end he wasn't there he'd gone to the end of the bed and went and grabbed my feet when i tell you i was genuinely on the verge of a heart attack i said please don't do those things to me at the moment and he was like he was like why i was like this uncanny i'm on edge like i'm really on edge like all the time he's like why don't you just stop listening to i'm like i can't i can't anyway so i'm in common garden listening to uncanny and
Starting point is 00:42:09 i'm just like living my best life and it was like the the return of ken yes that room 611 or whatever it was and i was like yes i can't wait for this so i was listening to it i was like shit shit god this is so much anyway this woman taps me on the shoulder. She goes, excuse me. When I tell you, my head whips around and I fully go, ah, in her face. Everyone in Covent Garden looks at me and stops. Everyone turns around and literally looks at me and I'm like, oh, sorry. I'm just listening to a podcast about ghosts at the moment.
Starting point is 00:42:38 I thought she was trying to take you. It was so, yeah. Everyone watched me. Everyone was like, what a fucking heck. Anyways, that was a long interview. Ready, three, two, me. Everyone was like, what a fucking ick. Anyways, that was a long ick. Ready, three, two, one. Lovely. Okay, go on.
Starting point is 00:42:48 Mine is when someone does something funny and then someone tries to imitate it. So I was at an acting workshop. And you know when you go up and you go to do your thing and everyone goes up one by one. Cool. I went up and was just chit-chatting usual shite and then someone people were laughing they're like oh yeah okay right
Starting point is 00:43:16 let's crack into it then yeah my bit get down and then this other girl goes up yeah and then tries to do the same spiel oh why is she doing that i've done that so annoying mine was organic oh mine it's from the bones i've got funny bones funny funny bones oh i hate when people do that and i'm like but let the moment die yeah do people recognize it yeah everyone was like like no laughed okay so last night um we went to go see a play yeah me katie arch and our friend we went to go see sunset boulevard and we were when i tell you we were at the top we were at the tippy tippy tippy top we were really high up and we were genuinely legit the back row anyway i'm like yeah cool fine fine not nevers to walk up and I like have a look and I'm like, shit, that's quite far down.
Starting point is 00:44:06 I'm like, when I tell you I get jelly legs, like I'm holding onto the banister and my poos does that tingling thing where I'm like, I can't feel it anymore. I mean, maybe I orgasmed. Maybe. The altitude. Maybe it was the altitude.
Starting point is 00:44:23 Get me up and bloody bananas. It's stirring me all night. baby the altitude maybe it was the altitude get me up a bloody benefit it's a stone in my old life and honestly i was i genuinely was shaking we sat on the chair and i couldn't like lean forward i had to push my head against the wall to know that there was something behind me i'm like what are you doing that's so embarrassing what are you doing oh my love and then archie was like and then bless you you leaned over and you're like okay are you all right and she's like she's scared i thought don't say that all right don't say i'm scared that's more embarrassing right should we go on to questions questions questions and i'm serious yes i will ask you serious question to do with the dating scene yeah we talked about him earlier yeah
Starting point is 00:45:05 what are your three musts with a man and when i say musts they have to be three personality things funny okay confident yeah kind okay boom funny confident kind yes oh do you know what i'd have to agree with all three of them funny has to take number one though you have to have good chat okay you have to be mr chuckles okay funny them. Funny has to take number one, though. You have to have good chat. Okay. You have to be Mr. Chuckles. Okay, funny, confident, kind. You've got to be funny. How about, where does intelligence come in there for you?
Starting point is 00:45:32 Probably fourth or fifth. How about generous? That's true, but I think that could go under the umbrella of kind. Yeah, yeah, that's fair. I think so. What about you? You're beating the system. Well, yeah. Beating the bloody system what about you you're beating the system well yeah
Starting point is 00:45:45 beating the bloody system but you know what i think i genuinely have to agree yeah definitely funny i want you to make me chuckle if we're going to be together our whole lives i want you to make me chuckle confident i love a bit of confidence i love it love when a man walks in a room he's own there not in a cocky way don't bey. Just he's confident in himself. I'm like, so sexy. Yeah. And kind. Oh, it makes me even more attracted to you. When I see what Archie's like with my family or my friends or my sister,
Starting point is 00:46:13 I'm always like, oh, my God. Just marry me. Yeah. Marry me. Marry me already. Okay. Okay. Go on.
Starting point is 00:46:21 Silly. Silly. Would you rather sing everything to everyone? Oh my God. Oh my God. Yeah. Yeah. Or have everyone sing everything to you?
Starting point is 00:46:33 Would I get a sore throat? No. Would my friends still love me? Yeah. Would Archie still want to be with me? Yeah. So say if I'm crying and I'm like, I've just had such a hard day today yeah
Starting point is 00:46:48 yeah okay that's the vibe um everyone sing to me i'm not being funny i feel like i could kind of again we guessed at each other here that we're just unickable i think i could pull it off you i think you could i think i could just be like Paige, come give me a cuddle. Yeah. I think people know I'm a wackadoodle, so they'd be like, do you know what? That's just what Kit's like. She's just wackadoodling. Wait, wait. Even noises do I have to sing?
Starting point is 00:47:15 What do you mean, like, noises? As if I'm like, oh. Like when we're having sex. Yeah. So I'm like, ah. Yeah. Yeah. That'll make it more fun. Ah.
Starting point is 00:47:23 Nice and musical. No. I think i'll definitely have to sit with myself then because if archie's like oh i'd be like why are you doing that why are you doing that but if i could do it brilliant easy peasy what would you pick oh sing to everyone peach is like yeah given yeah give absolute given like I'd be like, hey girl. How you doing? I'm having this for breakfast today. Yes, you would. I'd love it.
Starting point is 00:47:49 You would. It wouldn't have to be challenging for you though. No. You'd love it. I love it. Okay, debriefers. I love you so much. Yeah. Have a great Monday.
Starting point is 00:47:57 Have a great Monday. What do you have to say to your page? Your last word. Stay healthy out there, guys. Stay healthy. Get your guys. Stay healthy. Get your flu jab. Yes. Get your bloody flu jab, all right?
Starting point is 00:48:09 We love you so much. Have a great week. Love you guys. Bye.

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