The Debrief - The Gift Of Giving | The Debrief Podcast

Episode Date: November 3, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I've got a rebel soul I've got a rebel soul Welcome to the deep wave With your co-host Katie Leach Oh and your co-os, Kitty McNeil, keep me on me toes Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, don't be settled No, never settle, never settle, never be comfortable Never think you the best, win
Starting point is 00:00:26 Always up, up, up, up Absolutely, top of the mountains, the bottom of another one up, up. Small fish, big pond, always. No one wants to be the big fish. Keep hustling. Absolutely. Right.
Starting point is 00:00:36 This week, we've got a fun theme. We do. Because, guys, it's November. Mariah Carey's defrosted. Absolutely. Now, I don't know about everyone else. I was actually talking about this start you earlier. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:49 I am an avid Christmas listener. November 1st. As soon as bonfire nights out of the way, I'm in Christmas mode. Yeah. I don't, people are like, it's way too early, it's still too mum, it's still, I'm... Okay, screwed. Yeah, what is...
Starting point is 00:01:05 Also, you're the ones that know Christmas goes too quickly. Yeah. Because you haven't been enjoying it. Because you need to also set up for the magic. Yes. If you only, every single time, people like Christmas isn't as magical as an adult,
Starting point is 00:01:19 it can be if you're really trying. And it, yeah, and if you have the mindset. My favourite thing that gets me in the Christmassy mood, I'll tell you. Tell me. It's... ITV X have uploaded nearly every single Hallmark Christmas film. PSA, they're amazing. Brilliant.
Starting point is 00:01:38 They're so bad. It's like a warm hug. Yes, yes. It's honestly, Hallmark. Did you watch the Lindsay Lohan one? Oh, you bet I watch the Lindsay Lohan one. Brilliant. And then Netflix do their own kind of version, like the Lindsay Lohan one,
Starting point is 00:01:50 like the Vanessa Hudgens one. Oh, I've seen it that I liked the Vanessa Hudgens one. Hot Frosty, Hot Snowman. How about that? Yeah. So that was with Chad Michael Murray. How about the one with Blair in? Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:02:02 The one where they were exes. Yeah. They're doing another one with the girl who played Cher in Clueless. Similar to that, where both her and her husband split up and start dating other people, they decided to do Christmas altogether. And then they get about together. All the trailers came out today. So I was watching them all right.
Starting point is 00:02:21 I got so excited. Can't wait. I literally cannot wait. Love it. Okay. We've got a few things to get through in the suite. I'm going to crack on. Crack on. Sometimes the best present is the people around you. Oh, that's nice. Thank you. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I was actually thinking to myself, we said this so many times it's so boring.
Starting point is 00:02:40 But when it was COVID, there was a possibility that the four of us just does flatmates. We're going to have to spend Christmas cover. And it was such a terrible time. So many people lost family members, friends. It was such a sad time. and I felt so blessed that I would say at least I have people around me. Yeah. You know, and that's more to say than some people did. You know, it was such a tricky time. So during that time I was like, you know, I could have had that around me and it wouldn't have been about the tree or all of that.
Starting point is 00:03:10 It would have been like, thank God I've just got people around. Yeah, exactly. And I would love in, at one point in our life, I would love to have done a Christmas with the four of us. I know. That would be mad, wouldn't there? Because I would have been doing fucking nothing. we would have gone for a walk
Starting point is 00:03:26 boys would have been fucking sweating over the stove watching hot frosty on my own about the best time honestly so my mantra is I'm grateful for every experience life throws like me
Starting point is 00:03:41 love it love it love it love it it's either a blessing or a lesson bitches blessing or a lesson the bee or the L it's the B or the L and I will say because obviously we're calling this
Starting point is 00:03:52 in advance In advance. Absolutely. So I don't know how my date went. Yes. So it's... The next time we recorded... Next time, you'll know.
Starting point is 00:04:02 We can tell you. You'll know. We can tell you. Because the listeners are going to be like, those bitches didn't tell us about the day. We don't know. We're recording this in advance. So next time we'll tell you.
Starting point is 00:04:09 Remember last week I was living in fear? That fear is still right here. But next time it'll be gone. Next time it'll be gone. And I'll either be like, it was a freak. Or I'm like, we're getting married. Here he is. I'm introducing it. Come in.
Starting point is 00:04:25 Come in. My song, which is the only song it can be, is all I want for Christmas is you, you, baby. Wow, beautiful. That should be everyone's first song. Yeah, big time. The start. I'm like, here we go. We need to go to that place. This year in, is it Pagola, that do the theme, they do like a brass band Christmas Night Out?
Starting point is 00:05:01 Why have we never done this? We need to do Pagola and we also need to, I say wait, I really, really want to see like the holiday in concert. I would love to do that. Every year, I'm like, let's do it, let's do it. I know, and we never do. And I also want to do Christmas at Cue Gardens, the little light trail. I would love to do that. Boys don't want to go, because it's like a 20-quid ticket.
Starting point is 00:05:22 We could go. We could go. You can keep the fucking pennies. Yeah. They can be screwed. We can go. Tell me your song. My song is Dracula by Tame and Parlor.
Starting point is 00:05:34 Now, as we know, I've pre-ordered Tame and Pallor's new album on vinyl. So I thought better listen to the tracks that are already out. Of course. And it's actually very, very good. And it's giving like cozy in my main character like glow up era, you know, like Hugh Grant in Notting Hill. hill when he goes through the seasons. Yes.
Starting point is 00:05:55 It makes me feel that kind of vibe. Saying that, couldn't tell you how it goes. Okay. It's giving... It will be one of those that we have to search up on Spotify. Let me see if this will do it. Oh. And I'm like...
Starting point is 00:06:10 And I'm like... Oh, this is not what he expects it. And it literally gets like... I'm literally, it makes me feel, it literally just, it makes me feel like the main character. I'm like, yeah, nice, nice, nice. So good. Love it.
Starting point is 00:06:37 Okay. Refka's. Racka, recommendation. So, last weekend you were in Dublin. Yep. Look at you. Oh, yes, yes. And it was just arch night.
Starting point is 00:06:50 So we went to Q Gardens. Oh. I know. So I said to actually, let's do something new. I want to do something new. Yeah. Let's not do the river walk. We always do the river wall. And I said, Q Gungans, he seemed a bit like, I can't be fucking asked. I was like, no, come on. It'll be, it's so close to us. I was like, and it was beautiful. We saw the lily paths. Oh. It's so nice. And also, like, you can go inside the glass hospital. There's also, you walk all around. The orangery as well. Yeah, the nice little cafe. I'm like, oh, that's so nice.
Starting point is 00:07:21 Oh, yeah. We're going to debrief it. We're going to debrief it because we've got things to get through it. Let's do it. This week we're talking about Christmas gifts. Christmas? Because yes, the timing is creeping up. And no, you cannot leave it until the day before.
Starting point is 00:07:37 Me. Whether you're planning shopping for your situation, trying to decode a gift from last year, or already planning your petty re-gifts. Our DMs have been full of gift drama. Today we're going, getting into the, good, the bad and the absolutely block worthy presents, plus a few dilemmas that might just ruin Christmas dinner. Really add. But before we do, we're going to play a little game. Yeah. It's a
Starting point is 00:08:01 quidify game, okay? And it's called buy beauty or bin. Okay. Okay. Bye means I'll give it to someone else. So goodbye, you're going to someone else. Beauty is, I'm keeping this from there. Yeah. What a beauty. Yeah. Bin, never to see it again. Okay. Okay. These are all from listeners. Our listeners have sent in previous Christmas gifts they've been given. Okay. You're going to say, quick fire, no debate. Yeah. If you're going to buy, Beauty or Ben. Okay.
Starting point is 00:08:29 Whoever gave it, whatever it is. Are you ready? Yeah. First one. I got a bottle of perfume from my boyfriend, the same one I know his ex was. Ben. Yeah. Last year I got a Harry Potter wand.
Starting point is 00:08:43 I'm 27. Beauty. I'm telling you. Really? I'm telling you, if you're getting gifted, a Harry Potter wand, you're definitely like, you're giving off the vibe that you want one.
Starting point is 00:08:57 No one gets a Harry Potter one for no fucking reason. Yeah, I know that is true. And honestly, I always wanted one of those growing up. We've all got one. You could see you. Who's do you have? I had, I believe, my niece. Yes.
Starting point is 00:09:15 Lily, I can't remember who Lily had, but my mum had Beloitrix La Strange. Of course. Can't remember what my dad had. But yeah, we all got one. I'm so down. I really wanted one. I never did it.
Starting point is 00:09:29 But I was very close once. So is this beauty? It's a beauty. I forgot if I bought that, I'd be keeping it. My boyfriend got me a framed photo of him and his dog that said, We're your boys now. That was my main present. Oh, no, beauty.
Starting point is 00:09:43 Beauty. I'd keep that. That's very sweet. I also love that she said, that was my main present. I felt the undertone of that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Once I got a four-heart, body wash and lufuset from the petrol station, still in a plastic bag. Bye, I would re-gift that.
Starting point is 00:10:02 Yeah. To like, cousin's daughter. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. My sister got me a baby pink hat that said hashtag girl boss. I'm in finance. Oh, I would say, I would say beauty. and I would keep it for the mems and get it out at parties.
Starting point is 00:10:24 Yeah, fat. Yeah. My ex got me a handmade coupon book. One of the coupons was one free apology if I stay out late again. Oh. The fucking liberty. Buy and beef. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:39 Buy and then beef. That's not giving what you want it to get. A fucking liberty of that. Oh, this is a good one. My friend got me an Amazon Echo dot. Oh. Like the one. she used to have before getting an Alexa.
Starting point is 00:10:54 When I cut it in, it was already connected to her Alexa account. How mysterious. Some people don't know what fucking factory reset means. That's bad. I obviously, maybe I would wipe it and probably re-gift it. Actually, to be honest, I would keep it, actually. I would keep it and just like, be like, oh, fucking idiot. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:14 I'd be like, I'm keeping a bit fucking idiot. It's quite generous, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Oh, you're going to hate this one. My mum got me an exercise DVD. And she told me it's for you to get motivated. Ben. Ben.
Starting point is 00:11:32 Ben. And passionately Ben. I'd like throw in the bit. Yeah, I'd like throw it. I wouldn't even put it in my kitchen bin. I'd go out. Put it in the fucking recycling. My friend got me a pack of tissues with a note for all your drama.
Starting point is 00:11:48 I said beauty I'd keep that I was fucking good I once got a Christmas sweater with my face photoshopped on Rudolph Beauty
Starting point is 00:11:57 that's fucking that's being kept that is being kept that's right up my alley okay we're gonna get on to die embers but did you enjoy them
Starting point is 00:12:05 I fucking love that brilliant okay so we've got two this week yeah hey girls hey I seriously need your advice
Starting point is 00:12:17 because I am spiraling big time, so I'm ready to debrief. Here's the thing. My ex and I broke up years ago. But for some reason, judge or no judge, we still buy each other birthday in Christmas presents. I know it's weird, but it's our thing and we're fine doing it. It's always been this weird unspoken thing between us. Honestly, it feels kind of normal to me now.
Starting point is 00:12:40 We were together for so long that when we broke up, it felt more weird to just not do it. We care about each other in a different way, as we. we used to, and I've always thought it was mature and nice to keep that tradition going. Yeah. But here's where it gets a bit difficult. I just started seeing someone new. Okay.
Starting point is 00:12:56 He's amazing. But when he found out about the gifts, I still have an exchange for my ex. He totally flips out. Fair enough. He thinks it's very weird and I'm really inappropriate. He's now accusing me of not being over my ex and that I still have feelings to him
Starting point is 00:13:13 and I'm somehow disrespecting our relationship by keeping this gift tradition a lot. girls I do get why he's upset but I don't think I'm in the wrong I don't know if I want to not give my ex gifts anymore it's complicated I honestly don't want to cut that part of my life off now it's causing huge tension between us and I'm stuck wondering should I stop sending gifts to my ex to make my new relationship work even though that's something that I do still enjoy not a romantic way, but in a personal way? Or is it my boyfriend just being jealous and controlling?
Starting point is 00:13:53 I feel so torn in Christmas is coming fast. What do you think? Thanks, girls. I don't think it's jealous and controlling per se. I do think that's peculiar. It's unique. It's definitely unique. I don't know if it were me, I'd be bothered.
Starting point is 00:14:12 Yeah. If it was flipped on its head and maybe this is something you could ask yourself, like, if he was doing that, would you be... Depends what kind of gifts you're giving as well. It's true. If they're sentimental, if they're, like, if you're sending him, like, Link's Africa set for Christmas, you know, fine. You're right. I just, I really struggle with the whole exes can be friends thing.
Starting point is 00:14:36 I really, really do. Unless obviously you're in a situation where you have to remain friends, like co-parenting. Absolutely. I literally just don't understand. I, like, a clean fucking break. Yeah. I don't think it's healthy at all. Well, for me, anyway.
Starting point is 00:14:51 I think the situation is so unique because if this was me, I would feel how your boyfriend's feel like, why are you clinging onto something? That's how I'd feel. I'd be like, why are you holding on to something? Because it sounds like you're not really speaking a lot in life, but you just send each other Christmas presents, which I'm like, ah, it's just like, I think you'll be more.
Starting point is 00:15:14 Let's see, that's gift is, You wanted, this is extraordinary, but you wanted an M.S scarf, okay? And then you're wearing it for the rest of the year and that's all your boyfriend's is. At your whole, gifts are very, sentimental. Like, do you know what I mean? Yeah. I think, I actually think you need to think why you don't want to stop doing this. Great advice.
Starting point is 00:15:39 Because there's probably a reason why you don't want to stop. Yeah. I would probably delve a bit deeper into that. And I'd love to know. how often you see this man? Yeah, like, do you see him often? Do you, or do you literally just, like, send a message and do gift exchange? Or do you post it to him?
Starting point is 00:15:54 Yeah, like, do you meet up for a coffee and then do it? Or are you still seeing each other regularly? I just, yeah. Outside of this. Like, what's the vibe? But I would hear your boyfriend out a bit more. Yeah, I would. And I'd also refrain from, like, the jealous and controlling thing.
Starting point is 00:16:10 I think maybe just give him a bit of a chance. And also two things. why do you not want to stop giving these gifts and how would you feel if your boyfriend was doing it? Yeah. Yeah, it's hard. I think when it comes to it, I was asked this question once and it made everything so clear. Gun to your head, who are you jumping in front of? Him or your boyfriend. Oh, oh.
Starting point is 00:16:38 And I think it makes it very clear like who you want to be with or who, you know, like, you know, like, If your boyfriend turns around and says to you, I will, if you continue this, I won't be with you. Are you like, well, fine, because I want to continue it. Or would you be like, oh my God, I wouldn't want to lose you? I'll stop it. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:01 I think you need to ask these questions because I think without, if I'm just reading this like I've just read it, I'm like, girl, do you still have feelings for your eyes? Yeah, it's kind of giving that vibe. So I'm like, have a thing. Have a thing. Yeah, have a little think on that. that. Yeah. But I'm kind of on the boyfriend's side, no offence. I kind of like, I understand why he's upset. Yeah. I don't think what you're doing is wrong. I'm not like, that's so nasty. No, no, no,
Starting point is 00:17:29 you're not doing anything wrong. I think maybe you just haven't addressed your feelings. So I think you maybe need to just like think about that. Yes. Okay. This is a quick one. This is brilliant. This is brilliant. This is so me. Hi, kissing Katie. Quick one. So my new hubby, And I just bought our first house a few months again. Super exciting, but not the point. At the time, when we bought it, we had agreed that we wouldn't get each other Christmas gifts. And I was totally fine with that because, if I'm honest,
Starting point is 00:18:01 we went way over budget for the house I wanted. But now, with Christmas coming up, I'm starting to feel really fucking annoyed. What if there is nothing under the tree for me on Christmas Day? Wow. That's the end of the F's. That's the end of the time. Wow.
Starting point is 00:18:16 Well, I really, I really struggle with this because I feel like this is very you coded. Yeah. I would be like, I would, if we said we weren't doing gifts, we're not doing gifts. I will take a sentimental card. Like a little thing, like a bag of chocolate coins, sure. Fine. Something, something cheap and cheerful, like a gift. I understand what you mean if there was like, Merry Christmas, Merry Christmas.
Starting point is 00:18:44 Open your cards. Well, I understand that might feel. I'd be a bit like, oh, you can have, even if you made me like a little sock puppet, they're very easy to make. I'd be like, oh, like something, something. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:02 Something or like bought something for the house. My candle. I think I've got a solution for this one. I think you do something together. I can experience. An experience. Yeah, yeah. So, like, on Christmas Day, when you're usually opening presents,
Starting point is 00:19:20 yeah. Instead, you've booked to, I know it's spending money, but let's try, see it here, to go to the Cougarons lights. Right, okay? Yeah. Or you have, winter wonderlands expensive. And I know, again, this is the money. So I, honestly, you could do something really fun and wholesome, like painting each other,
Starting point is 00:19:45 or like, puzzles or something, stuff you've already got, and then just watch films. But I honestly... You're going to be a great girlfriend, Pete. You're going to be so low-maintenance. I'm a very low-maintenance person. You won't know what's hit at him. I'll be like, Katie, ask for more.
Starting point is 00:20:00 I'm very much, you're like, honestly, I wanted a sock puppet. I'm looking at it life. It'll be so sweet because then you can hang it up every Christmas thereafter, being like, our first Christmas in the house. Now, this girl's giving, this woman's giving no sock. puppet lady. She's not giving the vibe that she'd be okay with a handmade sock puppet. No, I don't think she'd be thrilled with a hand sock puppet. I'm like... I would then go to quality time that could feel like a gift. Yeah. Great. Great.
Starting point is 00:20:27 Cheap quality time that could feel like a hint. Yeah. Yeah. It's learning a dance together. Put music on. And you know, put a music on in your new house. Yeah. Yeah. That could be good. Put something like just dance on or you know, you watch something and you learn it together and you keep practicing it until it gets right. Yeah. I actually. I I think filling the time where you'd be opening the present is important. And if you get baking. Baking.
Starting point is 00:20:51 Oh my God, let's bake a gingerbread house. It's going to do that instead. Fun. Because I worry that when you were like, we went way over budget for the house you wanted. He won't. He'll take that, meant to take that literally. That he will be like, no, I do not think that this man is getting you a present. No, no, yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:10 I would start backtracking on that. And look, I completely agree. If me and Archie made part to not get a present, I'd be. like, yeah, but obviously you're getting me a present. I know, I get it. Like I do. I'm so, this woman, I feel she speaks my language. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:22 So I get you. I think feel that time. Learning a dance together. Yeah. Or even, as Kay said, buy something for the house. Yeah, something fun. So then you're spending money, but it still feels like it's for something. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:37 Not for frivolous activities. Yeah. But I would also say this. I wouldn't wait for him. Don't wait for him. He won't understand. No, no. No, no, you need to tell him that you're feeling like in the sense of, oh, don't do it in a kid's, you know, do it like, oh, I'm feeling a bit like, oh, I'm so excited to spend Christmas in the first Christmas in this amazing house.
Starting point is 00:21:57 There's a bit of me not opening up, it'll be weird, not opening presents. So I think if we could like do something to fill that time where we usually would have, we could like bake together or we could like learn a dance or I was thinking, you know, maybe you have a favourite spot, you make hot chocolates and you drive to that spot. That would be nice. And, you know, you put on a Christmas, like, you know, maybe you get out of the house and do that, or, you know, but definitely tell him because he'll be another fucking wiser. Yeah, exactly. Good luck, girl. Okay, good luck. Picks.
Starting point is 00:22:29 Okay, I've got one. I've got one. I'll ping pong you. Okay. Mine is on the vein of this woman. Right. When they act like a Christmas gift as high maintenance. I'm like it's Christmas
Starting point is 00:22:43 I was talking to someone at work the other day Yeah And she was saying how She's, do she's gone your boyfriend Yeah That she Now when I say the Christmas gift is high maintenance In a relationship
Starting point is 00:23:02 In a relationship Right right right right Yeah Because it is a luxury Because most of the world can't do that So, you know, we do have to be grateful for what we've got. Yeah. I think the point is with this woman is she was saying to me that she's in a new relationship.
Starting point is 00:23:15 Okay. Like month. Shit, okay. She sent him her Christmas list. Bold. Very bold for a month of relationship, if I'm honest. He was like, I'm not getting you any of this. I mean, fair enough.
Starting point is 00:23:29 And she was like, why? I mean. And she was, and he was like, well, first we've only been dating for a short amount of time. And, yeah, and second, he was like, I'm not even going to see you on Christmas anyway, like, I'm with my family. And she was like... I can't. And she was like, why is he acting as if a Christmas gift is like really strange?
Starting point is 00:23:52 I was thinking, I mean, Susanna. Her name's not Susanna. It's rogue after a month. Yeah. However, You'd expect a little something. Yeah. A card and then maybe like fluffy.
Starting point is 00:24:06 I think she's got about this the wrong way because I think by sending a Christmas list, he's like, oh, I've got to get a sentimental. You don't have to get, and that's a really awkward time to be only dating for like a few months. Before Christmas. That's the worst. That and by Valentine's Day, it's like, what do you do? You get with someone and it's their birthday in two weeks' time and you're like, Happy birthday.
Starting point is 00:24:26 Like, what do I get you? It's so awkward. Yeah. So I'm like, I think he could get you something. I just don't think he's going to get you something on the list because I can imagine what's on the list. It's probably your top choices. It's probably, you know. The Dyson era.
Starting point is 00:24:39 Boyfriend kind of purchases and you're on a dating budget here. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Completely. Yeah. And she was saying to me, she was like, is it bad of me to, to, because she, her point was, she's already got him something. Right. And she was like, he's going to love it.
Starting point is 00:24:57 He was talking about it a few weeks ago. And I was like, oh my God, that's what I'll get him for Christmas. And she, so, and apparently it was like a pre-order thing. So she pre-ordered. it and then he went out of stock and he was like oh i was going to buy it but i couldn't because it's now a stock and she was like i've got it for him i've got it for him that's very sweet and she was like does that mean he's not as into me like well i mean we all know love languages like if you're if your love languages is gift giving a guarantee you'll probably make him feel like shit
Starting point is 00:25:22 which will make you feel like you have the upper hand yeah it's nothing like better than nailing the gift oh and then they're like oh i'm like yeah but you know i i don't think it means he's less into you. I just think it means that you express your love through gifts. Yes. I think that's such a good point. I think you feel love and share love differently. Yeah. Maybe his is quality time or access service or something like that. But a Christmas gift is a luxury. It is. But I think she's come from maybe previous relationships where it's been normalised.
Starting point is 00:26:02 Fair. Okay. So she's now like, what the hell. No, yeah. I see that. But I also see that you've been dating a month. Because she told me all this information before she told me how long they've been dating. Oh, so you were like fully on board. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:16 I was like, and you've got him. And she was like, I'm so excited to give that. And I was like, what did you get him for last Christmas? Yeah. She was like, oh, no, we weren't together last Christmas. I was like, oh, you broke up? She was like, no, no, no, we like, we literally met last month. I was like, why have you got him a Christmas gift already then?
Starting point is 00:26:32 Do you know what I mean? Yeah, it's a lot. It's a lot. Maybe this ick is about half. Yeah. It's a lot. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:26:39 You ready? Yeah. Receiving a gift badly. People who receive gifts badly. And listen, no one can prepare you. Squeaky bum time. No one can prepare. You don't know what's under that wrapping paper.
Starting point is 00:26:53 You don't. And it's when other people then react to it. And it's like, don't react because I'm doing a really good. And they're like, you hate it. And it's like, no, I don't. No, no. Thank you. Some people, obviously, we all get it.
Starting point is 00:27:04 wrong. I will never forget. Actually, it's on camera when I got this for Christmas from one of the boys in our flat and I got them a very nice gift. And in return,
Starting point is 00:27:21 and in fairness to how she's comfy. Yeah. She is comfy. Absolutely. Yeah. And she stood the test to die. I survived the move. She survived the move. However, when people, and obviously I feel like I accepts it quite graciously. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:38 However, when people are like, I didn't want that. Or, squeaky bum time. Or, or. It's so grateful as far. I would never. I would never. Someone could literally give me a fully life-sized model of themselves naked. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:57 In doggie. Yeah. I'd be like, I literally wanted this for ages. Yeah. I was looking at this on. mine. I would never be like, I said I didn't want that. Okay, Dudley.
Starting point is 00:28:12 Yes. Last year, last year. I'm like, no. No, no, no, no, no. I'm like, you grovel for your life. It's icky. Right, you ready? I'm ready. Oh, no. Questions.
Starting point is 00:28:28 Question. Questions. I'm serious. So, my serious question is. Do you think honesty is always the best policy when it comes to gift giving and receiving? Receiving, no. Yeah. Because I think that's rude and it's ungrateful.
Starting point is 00:28:45 Some people, Kim, there are people that are dying. Yeah. Put things into perspective just because you didn't get the present you want. It's not the end of the world. You've got a present. That's very kind of the person who got it for you. That's something that aches me out is when people are like, it's literally for 10 pounds.
Starting point is 00:29:01 What does it matter the money? Yeah, yeah. It's not about the money. it counts. Yeah, I'm like, come on. Honestly, when it comes to saying what you'd like, I don't see the issue with that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:11 Because if you came to me for Christmas, all my bad thing and said, what would you like? I'd rather say to you, and actually, I think it depends who you're talking to. It's a double-edged sword because you like to be surprised. Yeah, I think I know with you and Archie and people close to me,
Starting point is 00:29:27 you'd get me something because you know what I like. But let's say for Secret Santa, and there's a max of 20 pounds, and I know the Britney book's 18. Yeah. I would be like... Perfect. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:39 Spread the word. Yeah. Like, do you know, because then you get what you like? Yeah, exactly. And even if I said to someone, what would you like for your birthday? And they would like,
Starting point is 00:29:46 they said to me, oh, I'd really like this olive bonus mug. I would be like, oh, yeah. Yeah. It makes it easy for the person getting it for you and it makes it easy for the person getting it. They're like, oh, okay, I'm getting something I like. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:59 But do not be honest if I give you the, if I receive the Oliver bonus, spunk and it's a green and I wanted it in a pink. Oh yeah, no. And like this is the one. This is the exact one. Oh, this was it. Thank you. Yeah. Lie through your teeth. Yeah. Right. Silly. Would you
Starting point is 00:30:15 rather have every present wrapped five layers in bubble wrap and you have to pop every single bubble before seeing the gift. Fuck, okay. Or open every gift
Starting point is 00:30:29 without ripping or tearing any of the wrapping paper So it has to be like... Yeah. And if you do, you don't keep the gift. I reckon I back myself on dismantling the present carefully. Do you? I think I could do it.
Starting point is 00:30:49 Okay. I think I could. Really? Yeah, I do. See, I think the pressure gets to me when people are like, oh, come on. I don't have the patience to pop five layers of fucking bubble wrap. No, fair. No, I don't.
Starting point is 00:31:01 No, fair. Unless actually, could I get it out and roll on it? No. One by one. Like, no, yeah, no, I can't. I can't. Yeah, what would you do?
Starting point is 00:31:14 You do the bubble wrap. I do the bubble wrap. I do that more than the gift. I would do that. I would do that. Okay, guys, we've got to the end of the app. We love you. Have a great rest of your week.
Starting point is 00:31:28 Yeah. Keep smiling. Keep smiling. Keep shining. Keep shining. No, and you can't always count on me. Okay. Goodbye, everyone.
Starting point is 00:31:38 Bye. Bye.

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