The Debrief - The Gift Of Giving | The Debrief Podcast
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I've got a rebel soul
I've got a rebel soul
Welcome to the deep wave
With your co-host Katie Leach
Oh and your co-os, Kitty McNeil, keep me on me toes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, don't be settled
No, never settle, never settle, never be comfortable
Never think you the best, win
Always up, up, up, up
Absolutely, top of the mountains, the bottom of another one
up, up.
Small fish, big pond, always.
No one wants to be the big fish.
Keep hustling.
Absolutely.
Right.
This week, we've got a fun theme.
We do.
Because, guys, it's November.
Mariah Carey's defrosted.
Absolutely.
Now, I don't know about everyone else.
I was actually talking about this start you earlier.
Yeah.
I am an avid Christmas listener.
November 1st.
As soon as bonfire nights out of the way, I'm in Christmas mode.
Yeah.
I don't, people are like, it's way too early,
it's still too mum, it's still, I'm...
Okay, screwed.
Yeah, what is...
Also, you're the ones that know
Christmas goes too quickly.
Yeah.
Because you haven't been enjoying it.
Because you need to also set up for the magic.
Yes.
If you only, every single time,
people like Christmas isn't as magical as an adult,
it can be if you're really trying.
And it, yeah, and if you have the mindset.
My favourite thing that gets me in the Christmassy mood, I'll tell you.
Tell me.
It's...
ITV X have uploaded nearly every single Hallmark Christmas film.
PSA, they're amazing.
Brilliant.
They're so bad.
It's like a warm hug.
Yes, yes.
It's honestly, Hallmark.
Did you watch the Lindsay Lohan one?
Oh, you bet I watch the Lindsay Lohan one.
Brilliant.
And then Netflix do their own kind of version, like the Lindsay Lohan one,
like the Vanessa Hudgens one.
Oh, I've seen it that I liked the Vanessa Hudgens one.
Hot Frosty, Hot Snowman.
How about that?
Yeah.
So that was with Chad Michael Murray.
How about the one with Blair in?
Oh my God.
The one where they were exes.
Yeah.
They're doing another one with the girl who played Cher in Clueless.
Similar to that, where both her and her husband split up and start dating other people,
they decided to do Christmas altogether.
And then they get about together.
All the trailers came out today.
So I was watching them all right.
I got so excited.
Can't wait.
I literally cannot wait.
Love it.
Okay.
We've got a few things to get through in the suite.
I'm going to crack on. Crack on. Sometimes the best present is the people around you.
Oh, that's nice. Thank you. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I was actually thinking to myself, we said this so many times it's so boring.
But when it was COVID, there was a possibility that the four of us just does flatmates. We're going to have to spend Christmas cover.
And it was such a terrible time. So many people lost family members, friends. It was such a sad time.
and I felt so blessed that I would say at least I have people around me.
Yeah.
You know, and that's more to say than some people did.
You know, it was such a tricky time.
So during that time I was like, you know, I could have had that around me
and it wouldn't have been about the tree or all of that.
It would have been like, thank God I've just got people around.
Yeah, exactly.
And I would love in, at one point in our life,
I would love to have done a Christmas with the four of us.
I know.
That would be mad, wouldn't there?
Because I would have been doing fucking nothing.
we would have gone for a walk
boys would have been fucking sweating
over the stove
watching hot frosty
on my own about the best time
honestly
so my mantra is
I'm grateful for every experience
life throws like me
love it love it love it love it
it's either a blessing or a lesson
bitches
blessing or a lesson
the bee or the L
it's the B or the L
and I will say
because obviously we're calling this
in advance
In advance.
Absolutely.
So I don't know how my date went.
Yes.
So it's...
The next time we recorded...
Next time, you'll know.
We can tell you.
You'll know.
We can tell you.
Because the listeners are going to be like,
those bitches didn't tell us about the day.
We don't know.
We're recording this in advance.
So next time we'll tell you.
Remember last week I was living in fear?
That fear is still right here.
But next time it'll be gone.
Next time it'll be gone.
And I'll either be like, it was a freak.
Or I'm like, we're getting married.
Here he is.
I'm introducing it. Come in.
Come in. My song, which is the only song it can be, is all I want for Christmas is you, you, baby.
Wow, beautiful.
That should be everyone's first song.
Yeah, big time.
The start.
I'm like, here we go.
We need to go to that place.
This year in, is it Pagola, that do the theme, they do like a brass band Christmas Night Out?
Why have we never done this?
We need to do Pagola and we also need to, I say wait, I really, really want to see like the holiday in concert.
I would love to do that.
Every year, I'm like, let's do it, let's do it.
I know, and we never do.
And I also want to do Christmas at Cue Gardens, the little light trail.
I would love to do that.
Boys don't want to go, because it's like a 20-quid ticket.
We could go.
We could go.
You can keep the fucking pennies.
Yeah.
They can be screwed.
We can go.
Tell me your song.
My song is Dracula by Tame and Parlor.
Now, as we know, I've pre-ordered Tame and Pallor's new album on vinyl.
So I thought better listen to the tracks that are already out.
Of course.
And it's actually very, very good.
And it's giving like cozy in my main character like glow up era, you know,
like Hugh Grant in Notting Hill.
hill when he goes through the seasons.
Yes.
It makes me feel that kind of vibe.
Saying that, couldn't tell you how it goes.
Okay.
It's giving...
It will be one of those that we have to search up on Spotify.
Let me see if this will do it.
Oh.
And I'm like...
And I'm like...
Oh, this is not what he expects it.
And it literally gets like...
I'm literally, it makes me feel, it literally just,
it makes me feel like the main character.
I'm like, yeah, nice, nice, nice.
So good.
Love it.
Okay.
Refka's.
Racka, recommendation.
So, last weekend you were in Dublin.
Yep.
Look at you.
Oh, yes, yes.
And it was just arch night.
So we went to Q Gardens.
Oh.
I know. So I said to actually, let's do something new. I want to do something new.
Yeah. Let's not do the river walk. We always do the river wall. And I said, Q Gungans, he seemed a bit like, I can't be fucking asked. I was like, no, come on. It'll be, it's so close to us.
I was like, and it was beautiful. We saw the lily paths.
Oh.
It's so nice. And also, like, you can go inside the glass hospital. There's also, you walk all around.
The orangery as well. Yeah, the nice little cafe. I'm like, oh, that's so nice.
Oh, yeah.
We're going to debrief it.
We're going to debrief it because we've got things to get through it.
Let's do it.
This week we're talking about Christmas gifts.
Christmas?
Because yes, the timing is creeping up.
And no, you cannot leave it until the day before.
Me.
Whether you're planning shopping for your situation,
trying to decode a gift from last year,
or already planning your petty re-gifts.
Our DMs have been full of gift drama.
Today we're going, getting into the,
good, the bad and the absolutely block worthy presents, plus a few dilemmas that might just ruin
Christmas dinner. Really add. But before we do, we're going to play a little game. Yeah. It's a
quidify game, okay? And it's called buy beauty or bin. Okay. Okay. Bye means I'll give it to someone
else. So goodbye, you're going to someone else. Beauty is, I'm keeping this from there.
Yeah. What a beauty. Yeah. Bin, never to see it again. Okay. Okay. These are all from listeners.
Our listeners have sent in previous Christmas gifts they've been given. Okay.
You're going to say, quick fire, no debate.
Yeah.
If you're going to buy, Beauty or Ben.
Okay.
Whoever gave it, whatever it is.
Are you ready?
Yeah.
First one.
I got a bottle of perfume from my boyfriend, the same one I know his ex was.
Ben.
Yeah.
Last year I got a Harry Potter wand.
I'm 27.
Beauty.
I'm telling you.
Really?
I'm telling you, if you're getting gifted,
a Harry Potter wand, you're definitely
like, you're giving off the vibe
that you want one.
No one gets a Harry Potter one for no fucking reason.
Yeah, I know that is true.
And honestly, I always wanted one of those growing up.
We've all got one.
You could see you.
Who's do you have?
I had, I believe, my niece.
Yes.
Lily, I can't remember who Lily had,
but my mum had Beloitrix La Strange.
Of course.
Can't remember what my dad had.
But yeah, we all got one.
I'm so down.
I really wanted one.
I never did it.
But I was very close once.
So is this beauty?
It's a beauty.
I forgot if I bought that, I'd be keeping it.
My boyfriend got me a framed photo of him and his dog that said,
We're your boys now.
That was my main present.
Oh, no, beauty.
Beauty.
I'd keep that.
That's very sweet.
I also love that she said, that was my main present.
I felt the undertone of that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Once I got a four-heart, body wash and lufuset from the petrol station, still in a plastic bag.
Bye, I would re-gift that.
Yeah.
To like, cousin's daughter.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
My sister got me a baby pink hat that said hashtag girl boss.
I'm in finance.
Oh, I would say, I would say beauty.
and I would keep it for the mems
and get it out at parties.
Yeah, fat.
Yeah.
My ex got me a handmade coupon book.
One of the coupons was one free apology if I stay out late again.
Oh.
The fucking liberty.
Buy and beef.
Yeah.
Buy and then beef.
That's not giving what you want it to get.
A fucking liberty of that.
Oh, this is a good one.
My friend got me an Amazon Echo dot.
Oh.
Like the one.
she used to have before getting an Alexa.
When I cut it in, it was already connected to her Alexa account.
How mysterious.
Some people don't know what fucking factory reset means.
That's bad.
I obviously, maybe I would wipe it and probably re-gift it.
Actually, to be honest, I would keep it, actually.
I would keep it and just like, be like, oh, fucking idiot.
Yeah.
I'd be like, I'm keeping a bit fucking idiot.
It's quite generous, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, you're going to hate this one.
My mum got me an exercise DVD.
And she told me it's for you to get motivated.
Ben.
Ben.
Ben.
And passionately Ben.
I'd like throw in the bit.
Yeah, I'd like throw it.
I wouldn't even put it in my kitchen bin.
I'd go out.
Put it in the fucking recycling.
My friend got me a pack of tissues with a note for all your drama.
I said beauty
I'd keep that
I was fucking good
I once got a Christmas sweater
with my face
photoshopped
on Rudolph
Beauty
that's fucking
that's being kept
that is being kept
that's right up my alley
okay
we're gonna get on to
die embers
but did you enjoy them
I fucking love that
brilliant
okay
so we've got two this week
yeah
hey girls
hey
I seriously need your advice
because
I am spiraling big time, so I'm ready to debrief.
Here's the thing.
My ex and I broke up years ago.
But for some reason, judge or no judge, we still buy each other birthday in Christmas presents.
I know it's weird, but it's our thing and we're fine doing it.
It's always been this weird unspoken thing between us.
Honestly, it feels kind of normal to me now.
We were together for so long that when we broke up, it felt more weird to just not do it.
We care about each other in a different way, as we.
we used to, and I've always thought it was mature
and nice to keep that tradition going.
Yeah.
But here's where it gets a bit difficult.
I just started seeing someone new.
Okay.
He's amazing.
But when he found out about the gifts,
I still have an exchange for my ex.
He totally flips out.
Fair enough.
He thinks it's very weird and I'm really inappropriate.
He's now accusing me of not being over my ex
and that I still have feelings to him
and I'm somehow disrespecting our relationship
by keeping this gift tradition a lot.
girls I do get why he's upset but I don't think I'm in the wrong I don't know if I want to not
give my ex gifts anymore it's complicated I honestly don't want to cut that part of my life off
now it's causing huge tension between us and I'm stuck wondering should I stop sending gifts
to my ex to make my new relationship work even though that's something that I do still enjoy
not a romantic way, but in a personal way?
Or is it my boyfriend just being jealous and controlling?
I feel so torn in Christmas is coming fast.
What do you think?
Thanks, girls.
I don't think it's jealous and controlling per se.
I do think that's peculiar.
It's unique.
It's definitely unique.
I don't know if it were me, I'd be bothered.
Yeah.
If it was flipped on its head and maybe this is something you
could ask yourself, like, if he was doing that, would you be...
Depends what kind of gifts you're giving as well.
It's true.
If they're sentimental, if they're, like, if you're sending him, like, Link's Africa set for Christmas, you know, fine.
You're right.
I just, I really struggle with the whole exes can be friends thing.
I really, really do.
Unless obviously you're in a situation where you have to remain friends, like co-parenting.
Absolutely.
I literally just don't understand.
I, like, a clean fucking break.
Yeah.
I don't think it's healthy at all.
Well, for me, anyway.
I think the situation is so unique because if this was me,
I would feel how your boyfriend's feel like,
why are you clinging onto something?
That's how I'd feel.
I'd be like, why are you holding on to something?
Because it sounds like you're not really speaking a lot in life,
but you just send each other Christmas presents,
which I'm like, ah, it's just like, I think you'll be more.
Let's see, that's gift is,
You wanted, this is extraordinary, but you wanted an M.S scarf, okay?
And then you're wearing it for the rest of the year and that's all your boyfriend's is.
At your whole, gifts are very, sentimental.
Like, do you know what I mean?
Yeah.
I think, I actually think you need to think why you don't want to stop doing this.
Great advice.
Because there's probably a reason why you don't want to stop.
Yeah.
I would probably delve a bit deeper into that.
And I'd love to know.
how often you see this man?
Yeah, like, do you see him often?
Do you, or do you literally just, like, send a message and do gift exchange?
Or do you post it to him?
Yeah, like, do you meet up for a coffee and then do it?
Or are you still seeing each other regularly?
I just, yeah.
Outside of this.
Like, what's the vibe?
But I would hear your boyfriend out a bit more.
Yeah, I would.
And I'd also refrain from, like, the jealous and controlling thing.
I think maybe just give him a bit of a chance.
And also two things.
why do you not want to stop giving these gifts and how would you feel if your boyfriend was doing it?
Yeah. Yeah, it's hard.
I think when it comes to it, I was asked this question once and it made everything so clear.
Gun to your head, who are you jumping in front of?
Him or your boyfriend.
Oh, oh.
And I think it makes it very clear like who you want to be with or who, you know, like, you know, like,
If your boyfriend turns around and says to you,
I will, if you continue this, I won't be with you.
Are you like, well, fine, because I want to continue it.
Or would you be like, oh my God, I wouldn't want to lose you?
I'll stop it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think you need to ask these questions because I think without, if I'm just reading this like
I've just read it, I'm like, girl, do you still have feelings for your eyes?
Yeah, it's kind of giving that vibe.
So I'm like, have a thing.
Have a thing.
Yeah, have a little think on that.
that. Yeah. But I'm kind of on the boyfriend's side, no offence. I kind of like, I understand why he's
upset. Yeah. I don't think what you're doing is wrong. I'm not like, that's so nasty. No, no, no,
you're not doing anything wrong. I think maybe you just haven't addressed your feelings. So I think
you maybe need to just like think about that. Yes. Okay. This is a quick one. This is brilliant.
This is brilliant. This is so me. Hi, kissing Katie. Quick one. So my new hubby,
And I just bought our first house a few months again.
Super exciting, but not the point.
At the time, when we bought it,
we had agreed that we wouldn't get each other Christmas gifts.
And I was totally fine with that because, if I'm honest,
we went way over budget for the house I wanted.
But now, with Christmas coming up,
I'm starting to feel really fucking annoyed.
What if there is nothing under the tree for me on Christmas Day?
Wow.
That's the end of the F's.
That's the end of the time.
Wow.
Well, I really, I really struggle with this because I feel like this is very you coded.
Yeah.
I would be like, I would, if we said we weren't doing gifts, we're not doing gifts.
I will take a sentimental card.
Like a little thing, like a bag of chocolate coins, sure.
Fine.
Something, something cheap and cheerful, like a gift.
I understand what you mean if there was like, Merry Christmas, Merry Christmas.
Open your cards.
Well, I understand that might feel.
I'd be a bit like, oh, you can have,
even if you made me like a little sock puppet,
they're very easy to make.
I'd be like, oh, like something, something.
Okay.
Yeah.
Something or like bought something for the house.
My candle.
I think I've got a solution for this one.
I think you do something together.
I can experience.
An experience.
Yeah, yeah.
So, like, on Christmas Day, when you're usually opening presents,
yeah.
Instead, you've booked to, I know it's spending money, but let's try, see it here,
to go to the Cougarons lights.
Right, okay?
Yeah.
Or you have, winter wonderlands expensive.
And I know, again, this is the money.
So I, honestly, you could do something really fun and wholesome, like painting each other,
or like, puzzles or something, stuff you've already got,
and then just watch films.
But I honestly...
You're going to be a great girlfriend, Pete.
You're going to be so low-maintenance.
I'm a very low-maintenance person.
You won't know what's hit at him.
I'll be like, Katie, ask for more.
I'm very much, you're like, honestly, I wanted a sock puppet.
I'm looking at it life.
It'll be so sweet because then you can hang it up every Christmas thereafter,
being like, our first Christmas in the house.
Now, this girl's giving, this woman's giving no sock.
puppet lady. She's not giving the vibe that she'd be okay with a handmade
sock puppet. No, I don't think she'd be thrilled with a hand sock puppet. I'm like...
I would then go to quality time that could feel like a gift. Yeah. Great. Great.
Cheap quality time that could feel like a hint. Yeah. Yeah. It's learning a dance
together. Put music on. And you know, put a music on
in your new house. Yeah. Yeah. That could be good. Put something like
just dance on or you know, you watch something and you learn it together and you keep
practicing it until it gets right. Yeah. I actually. I
I think filling the time where you'd be opening the present is important.
And if you get baking.
Baking.
Oh my God, let's bake a gingerbread house.
It's going to do that instead.
Fun.
Because I worry that when you were like, we went way over budget for the house you wanted.
He won't.
He'll take that, meant to take that literally.
That he will be like, no, I do not think that this man is getting you a present.
No, no, yeah.
I would start backtracking on that.
And look, I completely agree.
If me and Archie made part to not get a present, I'd be.
like, yeah, but obviously you're getting me a present.
I know, I get it.
Like I do.
I'm so, this woman, I feel she speaks my language.
Yeah, yeah.
So I get you.
I think feel that time.
Learning a dance together.
Yeah.
Or even, as Kay said, buy something for the house.
Yeah, something fun.
So then you're spending money, but it still feels like it's for something.
Yeah.
Not for frivolous activities.
Yeah.
But I would also say this.
I wouldn't wait for him.
Don't wait for him.
He won't understand.
No, no.
No, no, you need to tell him that you're feeling like in the sense of, oh, don't do it in a kid's, you know, do it like, oh, I'm feeling a bit like, oh, I'm so excited to spend Christmas in the first Christmas in this amazing house.
There's a bit of me not opening up, it'll be weird, not opening presents.
So I think if we could like do something to fill that time where we usually would have, we could like bake together or we could like learn a dance or I was thinking, you know, maybe you have a favourite spot, you make hot chocolates and you drive to that spot.
That would be nice.
And, you know, you put on a Christmas, like, you know, maybe you get out of the house and do that, or, you know, but definitely tell him because he'll be another fucking wiser.
Yeah, exactly.
Good luck, girl.
Okay, good luck.
Picks.
Okay, I've got one.
I've got one.
I'll ping pong you.
Okay.
Mine is on the vein of this woman.
Right.
When they act like a Christmas gift as high maintenance.
I'm like it's Christmas
I was talking to someone at work the other day
Yeah
And she was saying how
She's, do she's gone your boyfriend
Yeah
That she
Now when I say the Christmas gift is high maintenance
In a relationship
In a relationship
Right right right right
Yeah
Because it is a luxury
Because most of the world can't do that
So, you know, we do have to be grateful for what we've got.
Yeah.
I think the point is with this woman is she was saying to me that she's in a new relationship.
Okay.
Like month.
Shit, okay.
She sent him her Christmas list.
Bold.
Very bold for a month of relationship, if I'm honest.
He was like, I'm not getting you any of this.
I mean, fair enough.
And she was like, why?
I mean.
And she was, and he was like, well, first we've only been dating for a short amount of time.
And, yeah, and second, he was like,
I'm not even going to see you on Christmas anyway, like, I'm with my family.
And she was like...
I can't.
And she was like, why is he acting as if a Christmas gift is like really strange?
I was thinking, I mean, Susanna.
Her name's not Susanna.
It's rogue after a month.
Yeah.
However,
You'd expect a little something.
Yeah.
A card and then maybe like fluffy.
I think she's got about this the wrong way because I think by sending a Christmas list,
he's like, oh, I've got to get a sentimental.
You don't have to get, and that's a really awkward time to be only dating for like a few months.
Before Christmas.
That's the worst.
That and by Valentine's Day, it's like, what do you do?
You get with someone and it's their birthday in two weeks' time and you're like,
Happy birthday.
Like, what do I get you?
It's so awkward.
Yeah.
So I'm like, I think he could get you something.
I just don't think he's going to get you something on the list because I can imagine what's on the list.
It's probably your top choices.
It's probably, you know.
The Dyson era.
Boyfriend kind of purchases and you're on a dating budget here.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Completely.
Yeah.
And she was saying to me, she was like, is it bad of me to, to,
because she, her point was, she's already got him something.
Right.
And she was like, he's going to love it.
He was talking about it a few weeks ago.
And I was like, oh my God, that's what I'll get him for Christmas.
And she, so, and apparently it was like a pre-order thing.
So she pre-ordered.
it and then he went out of stock and he was like oh i was going to buy it but i couldn't because it's now
a stock and she was like i've got it for him i've got it for him that's very sweet and she was like
does that mean he's not as into me like well i mean we all know love languages like if you're
if your love languages is gift giving a guarantee you'll probably make him feel like shit
which will make you feel like you have the upper hand yeah it's nothing like better than
nailing the gift oh and then they're like oh i'm like yeah but you know i i don't think it means
he's less into you. I just think it means that you
express your love through gifts. Yes. I think that's such a good point. I think
you feel love and share love differently. Yeah. Maybe
his is quality time or access service or something like that. But a Christmas
gift is a luxury. It is. But I think she's come from
maybe previous relationships where it's been normalised.
Fair. Okay. So she's now like,
what the hell.
No, yeah.
I see that.
But I also see that you've been dating a month.
Because she told me all this information before she told me how long they've been dating.
Oh, so you were like fully on board.
Yeah.
I was like, and you've got him.
And she was like, I'm so excited to give that.
And I was like, what did you get him for last Christmas?
Yeah.
She was like, oh, no, we weren't together last Christmas.
I was like, oh, you broke up?
She was like, no, no, no, we like, we literally met last month.
I was like, why have you got him a Christmas gift already then?
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah, it's a lot.
It's a lot.
Maybe this ick is about half.
Yeah.
It's a lot.
Yeah.
Okay.
You ready?
Yeah.
Receiving a gift badly.
People who receive gifts badly.
And listen, no one can prepare you.
Squeaky bum time.
No one can prepare.
You don't know what's under that wrapping paper.
You don't.
And it's when other people then react to it.
And it's like, don't react because I'm doing a really good.
And they're like, you hate it.
And it's like, no, I don't.
No, no.
Thank you.
Some people, obviously, we all get it.
wrong. I will never
forget. Actually, it's on camera
when I got this
for Christmas
from one of the boys in our
flat and I got them
a very nice gift.
And in return,
and in fairness to how she's comfy.
Yeah. She is comfy.
Absolutely. Yeah. And she stood the test
to die. I survived the move.
She survived the move. However,
when people, and obviously I
feel like I accepts it quite graciously.
Yeah.
However, when people are like, I didn't want that.
Or, squeaky bum time.
Or, or.
It's so grateful as far.
I would never.
I would never.
Someone could literally give me a fully life-sized model of themselves naked.
Yeah.
In doggie.
Yeah.
I'd be like, I literally wanted this for ages.
Yeah.
I was looking at this on.
mine. I would never be like,
I said I didn't want that.
Okay, Dudley.
Yes.
Last year, last year. I'm like, no.
No, no, no, no, no.
I'm like, you grovel for your life.
It's icky.
Right, you ready?
I'm ready.
Oh, no. Questions.
Question.
Questions. I'm serious.
So, my serious question is.
Do you think honesty is always the best policy
when it comes to gift giving and receiving?
Receiving, no.
Yeah.
Because I think that's rude and it's ungrateful.
Some people, Kim, there are people that are dying.
Yeah.
Put things into perspective just because you didn't get the present you want.
It's not the end of the world.
You've got a present.
That's very kind of the person who got it for you.
That's something that aches me out is when people are like,
it's literally for 10 pounds.
What does it matter the money?
Yeah, yeah.
It's not about the money.
it counts.
Yeah, I'm like, come on.
Honestly, when it comes to saying what you'd like,
I don't see the issue with that.
Yeah.
Because if you came to me for Christmas,
all my bad thing and said,
what would you like?
I'd rather say to you,
and actually, I think it depends who you're talking to.
It's a double-edged sword
because you like to be surprised.
Yeah, I think I know with you and Archie and people close to me,
you'd get me something because you know what I like.
But let's say for Secret Santa,
and there's a max of 20 pounds,
and I know the Britney book's 18.
Yeah.
I would be like...
Perfect.
Yeah.
Spread the word.
Yeah.
Like, do you know,
because then you get what you like?
Yeah, exactly.
And even if I said to someone,
what would you like for your birthday?
And they would like,
they said to me,
oh, I'd really like this olive bonus mug.
I would be like, oh, yeah.
Yeah.
It makes it easy for the person getting it for you
and it makes it easy for the person getting it.
They're like, oh, okay, I'm getting something I like.
Yeah.
But do not be honest if I give you the,
if I receive the Oliver bonus,
spunk and it's a green and I wanted it
in a pink. Oh yeah, no. And like this is the
one. This is the exact one. Oh, this was it.
Thank you. Yeah.
Lie through your teeth. Yeah. Right.
Silly. Would you
rather have every present
wrapped five layers in bubble wrap
and you have to pop every single
bubble before seeing the
gift.
Fuck, okay.
Or
open every gift
without ripping or tearing
any of the wrapping paper
So it has to be like...
Yeah.
And if you do, you don't keep the gift.
I reckon I back myself on dismantling the present carefully.
Do you?
I think I could do it.
Okay.
I think I could.
Really?
Yeah, I do.
See, I think the pressure gets to me when people are like, oh, come on.
I don't have the patience to pop five layers of fucking bubble wrap.
No, fair.
No, I don't.
No, fair.
Unless actually, could I get it out and roll on it?
No.
One by one.
Like,
no, yeah, no, I can't.
I can't.
Yeah, what would you do?
You do the bubble wrap.
I do the bubble wrap.
I do that more than the gift.
I would do that.
I would do that.
Okay, guys, we've got to the end of the app.
We love you.
Have a great rest of your week.
Yeah.
Keep smiling.
Keep smiling.
Keep shining.
Keep shining.
No, and you can't always count on me.
Okay.
Goodbye, everyone.
Bye.
Bye.
