The Debrief - The Girl Code Handbook | The Debrief Podcast

Episode Date: November 25, 2024

Welcome back to The Debrief! This week we are talking all things GIRL CODE, how to keep it & what to do when its broken! As always email us: hello@thedebriefpodcast.co.ul or DM us @the.debriefpodc...ast! Have an amazing week! Lots of Love,K+K x Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the D-Ring! Guys, Katie is Steve Jobs. I honestly am in reclining Buddha right now on the sofa. So I was like coming rushing back, I was like, oh my god, I got to get back to the pod came in thinking Here we are gonna be squashed me also for cakes into lying like a good honestly Like paint me like when you're French girls. Yeah, say what are you doing? Honestly? I've smashed it. I've smashed it I figured it out. I'm quite Castled in the back for me. That's on the old peach me? Pass on the old P.Shingtons back?
Starting point is 00:00:45 Pass on the back. How's your week been? My week's been sensational. I was up at the ho-ho-ho-ss crap of de Horne this morning. What were you? What time? Beep beep beep beep beep beep. 4am my alarm was going off this morning and I was like...
Starting point is 00:01:01 Off to work ago! It's off! Yeah. What time did you go to bed? I went to bed at 10 because I was like, I'm not going to retrain my sleep schedule at this point. Yeah. So I was like, I'll watch a bit of I'm a Celeb and then I'll tootle to my bed.
Starting point is 00:01:14 Oh, I'm a Celeb has been brilliant. Oh, it's been so good. It's been amazing. I've already got my favorites. Oh, love Colleen, love her, love the Irish guy. Barry. Love him. Oh, is he? Maybe maybe not the old one the young one
Starting point is 00:01:29 he said he brought in tea bags is he not Irish? Oh the old guy with the white hair Barry, oh not, massive fan he hasn't drawn me in, although his daughter made me so sad, I know that was really sad, and then love G GK Barrie did a great job. GK Barrie smashing it in there. Although she was like, she did a great job. She's just like me, I do the same. Yeah, I thought she did a lot. You can't not scream. Do you love how she's gone in with her extensions?
Starting point is 00:01:56 Iconic. It's Talisa's eyelash extensions for me. This is what I'm like, how has she got away with this? I thought they'd take them off. I thought they made you take it off because Archie was like, why is she wearing fake eyelashes? They're literally going to fall off. And I'm like, no, they not, how has she got away with this? I thought they'd take them off. I thought they made you take it off. Cause Archie was like, why is she wearing fake eyelashes? They're literally going to fall off. And I'm like, no, that eyelash extensions Archie. They're going to stay on for the remainder. Yeah, they'll stay on for the whole, cause when is it? Five weeks in there?
Starting point is 00:02:15 I swear it's like, yeah, three, three to four weeks. It's only three, isn't it? Gotta get back for Christmas. Gotta get back for Cremarine. For Crembo. Oh, to be fair, three weeks, they'd stay on the whole time. I'm surprised you've allowed it. Oh, I know. Maybe she's requested it. Yeah, baby. Please. That is un-shut off in my own heart. So, tell me your mantra for this week. My mantra is, you'll never be too much for the right person. Oh, that's nice.
Starting point is 00:02:39 Yeah. Oh, that's so true, though. I know. That is so true. How spot-on is that? I know I've been loving it How did you need that for this week? I feel like sometimes I get worried when I like I've recently like been more like I'm back It's kind of like a full-time routine with work now. I'm like officially out of the graduate bubble Wow, I feel like I get a bit nervous in New social groups and meeting new people and I'm always worried them like oh god I don't want to be like weird or no. No. I don't want to like rub people up the wrong way. And I'm like, you'll never be too much for the right people. Completely. And that's like relationship or as a friendship. Yeah, 100%. If your friends love you, then they're not going to be like Katie settled down. Exactly. Like, Katie, you can't keep me down. They can't bring you down. So my match for this week is all to do with the theme of what we're going to talk about. It's stay loyal and stay fierce.
Starting point is 00:03:30 Stay loyal and stay fierce. I said to my mom, because I had a lovely weekend with her, I went back home for the weekend, went to the spa with my mom, my sister, it was really good. And she was like, what do you value out of friendship? Yeah. And I was like, what you value like out of friendship? And I was like, loyalty. And I was like, if my friends are loyal to me, I'm like, I can tell you anything and you're not going to. I think that's like one of the most underrated things though.
Starting point is 00:03:53 So warranty is a massive thing. Yeah. Completely. And also staying fierce. In my head, that's like your friend sticking up for you. I like that a lot. Stay fierce. Stay strong. Study. Stay on point. Stay on point. Stay on point. It's so clever. So my song for this week is Independent Woman by Dustin E's Child. Yeah, because I am. Boom, boom. Boom, boom, boom. That's me. And I want to give that out to the universe. Yeah. And the universe be like, yeah, you are. And I'm like, thanks, thanks. Oh, thanks for reassuring me about how she knew. Thanks. So you didn't don't double the next time. But I knew. Yeah. What's your club? I'm from this week. My club anthem is by a woman called Lola Young. Oh, and she has a song that goes, because I'm too messy.
Starting point is 00:04:43 And then I'm too fucking clean. You tell me get a job and then that's me where I have been. Something of that effect. Yeah. Oh, I see. It's a bit of a sassy song. Bit of a sassy song, bit of a banger, bit of like a what do you want? What do you want from me?
Starting point is 00:04:59 What about you? I'm like on the bus side and you're like, I think I'm messy. After being Peter Pan in a fucking all day at schools I'm like yeah it's so right I love that. So for our recognition this week is the Ragdell hall now I think I've recommended this before when I went with my friend but it was 10 times better when I arrived. 10 times better. The warm robes, the fluffy slippers, the treatments, I had the best back massage of my life. And you know what I'm like, I'm like a deep tissue.
Starting point is 00:05:34 You do love a deep tissue. I'm not paying to be tickled. Bit of pressure. I'm paying to get a good elbow and bruises on my back. That's how like deep tissue was. Oh my God, I love that. pain to get a good elbow and that bruises on my back. That's how like deep tissue. I love that. I could feel so they put hot rocks on my back and she was that I'm going to put hot rocks in really tense like areas of muscle like where muscle tension and all of a sudden I was like on my back on my front like eyes closed and I felt the rocks like move and
Starting point is 00:06:03 I was like what's going on? She was like they're breaking down the tension of muscle so they're starting to, so they just like might fall a little bit. Oh my god. I was like this is amazing. Iconic. I thought I need to, I would actually love to do a spa day with you but I'd love to have put you in a semi-dwarf wrap. I would love that. I would love it. I would just. With your hands like and the fact that you couldn't like text or anything. I was just looking into be a bet. A bitch. Literally love my... I love a spa day. I love a spa day. Nothing better.
Starting point is 00:06:31 I was so jealous. Honestly, I was stuck with our stinky boys. Oh! No, he didn't. Just... Hey! I'm like, oh God, I wish I was with Clem. I wish I was with the spa day. No, me too. Hey! So different. Completely different. I wish I was with you. I wish I was with you. I wish I was with you. I wish I was with you. I wish I was with you. I wish I was with you. I wish I was with you. I wish I was with you. I wish I was with you. I wish I was with you. I wish I was with you. I wish I was with you. I wish I was with you. I wish I was with you. I wish I was with you. I wish I was with you. I wish I was with you. I wish I was with you. I wish I was with you. I wish I was with you. I wish I was with you. I wish I was with you. I wish I was with you. I wish I was with you. I wish I was with you. I wish I was with you. I wish I was with you. I wish I was with you. I wish I was with you. I wish I was with you. I wish I was with you. I wish I was with you. I wish I was with you. I wish I was with you. I wish I was with you. I wish I was with you. I wish I was with you. I wish I was with you. I wish I was with you. I wish I was with you. I wish I was with you. I wish I was with you. I wish I was with you. I wish I was with you. I wish I was with you. I wish I was with you. I wish I was with you. I wish I was with you. I wish I was with you. I wish I was with you. I wish I was with you. I wish I was with you. I wish I was with you. I wish I was with you. I wish I was with you. I wish I was with you. I wish I was with you. I wish I was with you. I wish I was with you. I wish I was with you. I wish I was with you. I wish I was with you. I wish I was with you. I wish I back about shares because we're tackling a topic that's near and dear to all of us and that is girl code. Girl code. Now you've heard of it. Oh yeah. You've lived by it. But do we really know what it means in 2024? Has it changed? Has it stayed the same? So, but from the unspoken rules
Starting point is 00:07:19 of friendship to the ultimate acts of loyalty, what I talked about earlier. Girl code is the glue that holds us all together. We're breaking it down today, what it is, what it means and how to navigate those moments when someone breaks it. So, Katie H, tell me what girl code is. So girl code, Katie McNeil, is the unspoken rule book of female friendships I would say it's a mix of loyalty respect and common sense Common sense being a very key things a lot of people miss out on that. Yeah. Yeah, it's all about hyping up your bestie Never dating her ex knows and always being honest when she asked if the outfit works, even if it doesn't Honesty is always appreciated. She has appreciated, but knowing when the time is right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:06 Gail came through to me and we're about to leave. No, we've got an hour and she's watching my outfit and I don't think it's nice, I'll tell her. She's arrived at the club and I go, oh, your outfit's shit. No, you're not telling her that. She's in it. She's in it. It's a balancing act.
Starting point is 00:08:20 It's a balancing act for sure. Yeah. Yeah. It's also knowing when to step in and when to step back. Yes. You know, like you said something about common sense. Yeah. So for example, if I come to you crying, saying like this happened that I really want this didn't happen and I really wanted to and you go, what you gonna do about it? Not the time kidding me. Lack of common sense. Lack of common sense. Taking my energy. Comfort me. Yeah, respond correctly. I feel like it's also one of those things like you break up with your boyfriend. Now is not the time to ask if he's single now.
Starting point is 00:09:05 Oh my God, terrible. Never. And also knowing to like having each other's back. Yeah. You know, so for example, if there was someone in the group that bitched about you, I think it's as worse just sitting there and saying nothing, then getting involved. I'm like, if not worse, because you're just letting it happen. You're not saying, hey, steady, don't speak about her like that, you cheeky bitch. You know? And so we're also going to talk about girl code in pop culture, which is so exciting. I love a bit of girl code. So we're going to think about movies like Mean Girls. Yeah. The ultimate girl code movie.
Starting point is 00:09:36 We all know the breaking rules of girl code, portrayed by Regina George and Katie. And they became mortal enemies. Now we're just sad with all that because I'm like, look, Regina was a bitch. She was a bitch. But like the way that Katie like played that friendship. I'm like, wow. Katie breaks girl code with Janice if we're actually thinking about them. She breaks girl code. She loses herself to the plastics, you know, loses her friendships and her loyalties. And when I always feel like, you know, you can only have a fire with like, what's it
Starting point is 00:10:17 like fuel, oxygen, and heat or something, you know, without one the fire extinguishes. It's like girl code, without one you lose yourself completely. Friendship's gone without the loyalty, not right from the set out the window. They're having each other's back, it's not there anymore. Completely agree. One of mine that shows such good girl code is Legally Blonde. This is going to be my favourite. When Elle shows ultimate girl code when she backs up Paula at the nail salon and then
Starting point is 00:10:49 refuses to let Vivian get away with bad behavior. I think personally, Elle is one of the biggest inspirations for girl code because she's not nasty. No, she's never nasty. She's not nasty. She's not bitchy. Yeah. She stands her ground though.
Starting point is 00:11:04 Yeah. You know when she says like bitchy. She stands her ground though. Yeah. You know when she says like Vivienne looks like a virgin or something. I'm like, you did have that coming Vivienne. You really did. So I take you on the chin-hoof. But when she stands out for Paulette and then when she's the lawyer for Paulette to get the little dog back. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:19 Girl code. Girl code. Like she's got her back. She's got like, it's there. It's so there. I love her. The greatest thing is she's not nasty. No. Because people are like, you've got to be a bit. No, you don't.
Starting point is 00:11:30 No, you don't. You just have to be assertive. You've just got to be knowledgeable and comfortable in your own power. Completely. Comfortable in your own power. Own power. Yep. 100%.
Starting point is 00:11:41 Another one I had to look at, the power code. Now, firstly, I can't speak on this one. I've seen it. It's sex in the city. No, no, no Basically a girl code manifesto. You don't understand how much sex in the city would change your life Really because it's changed my I am actually looking for I'm catching a pull a card ashes at the moment Yeah, but then I'm needing something else to I me pickle one might say I am praying it's back on Netflix because I was watching it through my friend's VPN when we were in Edinburgh. I was watching it on like American Netflix on VPN. I am obsessed with the friendship that the four of those girls have. But I spent most of my time crying watching Sex and the City, not because of the romantic storylines. Although some of that girls have. I spent most of my time crying watching Sex and the City, not because
Starting point is 00:12:25 of the romantic storylines, although some of that was there. There's a lot of twists and turns. Of course. I remember I literally turned to my friend, tears rolled down my eyes, and I was like, it's just so nice they've got each other. They're just all there, happily drawing martinis. I think that's also the thing. That's what I love about girl friendship, girl code, that it's like, I know you'll always be there. Yes.
Starting point is 00:12:52 And then I know if I need you, you're going to have my back. Yeah. And that's the thing, look, I haven't watched Sex and the City, but I know there's like lots of boy drool or like seeing people and not seeing people, but they're constant as they're girls. They like, they had girls. Like, I got my girls, literally. Yeah. Or like bridesmaids. But they're constant as they're girls. Like, do you have girls? Like, I got my girls, literally.
Starting point is 00:13:05 Yeah. Or like bridesmaids. So the whole movie is a lesson on what happens when communication and loyalty goes off the rails. Yeah, completely. But ultimately, it all comes back. It all comes back. That's another one like Mean Girls where it goes big. Big, falls off the rails.
Starting point is 00:13:22 I tell you another one. Well, this is another one where it shows girl code elements of it breaking. Therefore the whole thing crumbling is bride wars. Bride wars? Yes, bride wars. Anne Hathaway? Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:35 Yeah. Because you know when they dye each other's hair and all that comes up. I love stuff like that because then at the end they realize what's important is forgiveness and coming together. And coming together. And coming together. And hey, what were you even fighting about? Yeah, I just missed it. You're my girl.
Starting point is 00:13:48 I love it. You're my girl. You're my girl. Just come in, you. Yes, yes. Okay, so we got some listener dilemmas about girl code. Okay. When it gets a bit complicated.
Starting point is 00:14:01 Oh, sticky situation. Here, this one. Hey, girlies, I really need some advice. This couldn't have come at a bit complicated. Oh, sticky situation. Here, this one. Hey, girlies, I really need some advice. This couldn't have come at a better time. We're like genies. Yeah. You broke the Dberry Flunk.
Starting point is 00:14:13 Out of the pot. Yeah. One of my closest friends recently started dating a guy I went on a few dates with last year. It really wasn't super serious at all. We literally went on two dates, never slept together, never kissed, didn't really text afterwards, it just wasn't a thing. But I still felt weird about it. She didn't even ask me beforehand, nor tell me. And now
Starting point is 00:14:39 I don't know if I should bring it up or just let it go. Help, am I overthinking? I would bring it up. Would you? I'm not in like a beefy way, but I'd be like, Oh, I wish you'd like ask me, regardless if it's a few days, if I, if I'd been on a few dates with someone, yeah. And then a friend of mine went on a date with him and I found out through like secondhand information she hadn't even told me I'd be like weird. I wouldn't be like I'm annoyed. I'm fucking upset. I'd just be like weird behavior.
Starting point is 00:15:09 Okay, okay. Like you think she's justified to be like what's all this about? Because also like if you didn't think there was an issue like you'd happily because I'm like if I was like if you went on like one date with a guy, yeah, and he would seem really keen on me Yeah, this was years ago. I'd be like, oh my god, would it actually be alright? Knowing that probably deep down, yes, it would. Yes, of course it would be. It wouldn't be an issue.
Starting point is 00:15:31 I think the biggest thing is that, as you said, it's just weird that it's almost just a tiny bit of lack of respect because it's like, well, what were you going to do when we come for double days? I know this guy. Yeah. Oh my god, I dated you. Like, were you just not wanting me to know? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:47 What would you do for a relationship? If you're a friend, okay, let's say, which one? She's like, who? Yeah, yeah. She's like, I mean, I don't know why she would tell me, but she tells me that she's dated your ex-boyfriend. Right. She's like, she's dating him now,
Starting point is 00:16:01 and he's like taking her out on dates, and they're like shagging, and all that kind of stuff. But she didn't tell you. But it came up in conversation. She's like, yeah, actually, she he's Katie's ex boyfriend. And I'm like, have you told Katie? She's like, Oh, no, because it's not that big of a deal.
Starting point is 00:16:16 It was years ago. What would you do? What would you do? I find that weird. Yeah. I feel like if I were her, if as soon as I knew, if I was dating someone, and they go, oh my God, do you know Amy? Like, yeah, Amy's like my bestie.
Starting point is 00:16:29 And they go, oh my God, I dated Amy. I'd be like, oh shit. And be like in the toilets. Like, can I call you on the way home? Well, this is the thing. I'm like, did she know that? Did the friend know that she had dated him before they met? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:50 Because I don't think she did. Yeah, I think she does. I just, I think you should say something. I think you should. Not in like a, what the fuck didn't you tell me? It's not a beefy way of being like, bit odd. But, and odd that she feels that, it feels like you're not honest with me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:09 That's the biggest thing because like I want to feel like I can trust you. Yeah, like you can come to me. You can tell me stuff. So look, she said she feels weird about it. She doesn't say that she's like upset or angry. Yeah. So I think you should just be like, hey girl, love you. Weird.
Starting point is 00:17:23 But like, why didn't you tell me? Of course you can date him because we're not dating him. We weren't boyfriend or anything. But you're supposed to be her friend. You know you can tell me these kind of things. And she'll probably go, oh, I just felt really weird about, you know. I feel like there's like a statute of limitations with dating. Yeah. like a statute of limitations with dating. But if they're shagging involved...
Starting point is 00:17:49 I think that's a step too far. That's a step too far. I just don't know. I don't know. I think if there's a sexual relationship, I'm like, nah. I'm like kissing fine. Kissing's fine. Kissing's absolutely fine. Sure. What's a shared kiss between friends? Exactly. But shagging, I'm like, nah, that's different. But if you've shagged, I'm like, oh no, like you've wanted each other at one point.
Starting point is 00:18:11 If you're putting the breadstick in the hummus, I'm like, with my friend, and now you're trying to get my hummus, I'm like, nah, you've probably had a taste of the satsuki. Yeah. You don't need hummus, you're fine. You've had enough delicacy. You can shut, shut that up. Right, tell me yours. Hi girls. So basically I've been besties with my girl best friend since year nine in secondary school.
Starting point is 00:18:35 Let's call her Angie. Now, year nine? Year nine, third form. Adorable! I know. Cute. Okay. We've been super close even through uni and are both living in different cities in graduate jobs. Good. I would say that when me and my boyfriend first got together,
Starting point is 00:18:50 she wasn't overly pleased. I personally think it was more a jealousy thing rather than her not liking him because she only had an issue if I couldn't speak while we were going, while me and my boyfriend were together on date nights, etc. Okay. We were all back home for Halloween and my boyfriend came to stay a few days. My family hosted drinks that my bestie came to and everyone was getting on nicely. Okay. My boyfriend and I had planned to go shopping the following day and Angie asked to spend the day together whilst we were out.
Starting point is 00:19:17 So I messaged back saying that I was busy with my boyfriend. Sir? She's now come out to say that he's a terrible person and tried to kiss her at the party the night before. I know my boyfriend very well and just can't help but feel that she's lying. I know it would be breaking serious girl code to choose my boyfriend side over hers, but I can't help but feel like she's jealous and trying to come between the two of us. When we spoke about it, she's adamant that it happened, but I just don't believe it. Please help. It's been super frosty between the two of us since she mentioned it. And
Starting point is 00:19:48 it's given me the friendship ick big time. I just can't tell if she's lying or not. Oh, God. That's really tricky. Do you know what though, is I've had so like, I've had a situation like this before and my friend believed her boyfriend. So it really upsets me in the sense of I'm like, believe your friend, believe your friend. And passing, I'm like, if she's your best friend, you've known since in third form, is she going to be hearing about your boyfriend to be crazy? I feel like it's got to be rooted in some form of truth. No, like it's surely like, like all cause that's like spinning a cage which you are spinning a yawn. Cause I think if she's this close to you, if she really was jealous and look she might be, does she not have like the friendship or communication with you to be like,
Starting point is 00:20:37 look I've really missed you. Like I feel like I'm always with him. Like if you came to me and you were like, can we just have time you and I like, I feel like you're always with Archer but oh oh darling, of course, they can't go to as well, you know, rather than just being, aren't you kiss me? Do you want me to? Do you know what I mean? I don't know. I just feel, I just think it's odd.
Starting point is 00:21:01 I'm like, why would you not believe her? I feel like, yeah. And also, has she asked the boyfriend? Because she didn't clarify. This hasn't been, no, she hasn't. It doesn't say she has. There may have been a conversation, but I'm like, it feels weird to me that like you said, it would come out of nowhere. Like you can't just pull that out your ass. But I also understand and appreciate that some people are just immature. Someone would, someone jealous could make this up. Yeah. Yeah. Well, everyone's
Starting point is 00:21:29 had their psycho moments. Bigger lies have been told. Bigger lies have been told. Everyone has their psycho moments. I have. I will be the first to put my hands up and say, I've done it before. Been there, done there. Got the t-shirt, you know. Got the t-shirt and blew through it. You know? But it's like, really? Do you know what though? I do think if you keep this to yourself, I think you need to talk to your boyfriend. Yeah, talk to your boyfriend a bit. And read his face. Because most of the time men are terrible. Actually I say men are terrible at lying. Actually no, I take that back. They're great at it. One of them's great that we know. I'm like, so good. They're actually terrifying to me. And I'm like, that really scares me for any future relationships you get in because you're
Starting point is 00:22:10 a sensational liar. Sensational. So the point I'm like, no, that's not funny. Yeah. Because I fully believe you. I'm like, I believe you. So I don't know. I think, first of all, I think you need to tell your boyfriend.
Starting point is 00:22:22 Yeah, tell Big Chief. And does Big Chief know that there's even been an issue with you in your essay? Because maybe there's friction between the two of them, maybe there's friction between not to fuel the fire, maybe there's friction between the two of them because he fancies a slice of the friend. Do you know what? Ask your mother. Ask your mother. Ask your mother and be like, hey, Jennifer said this. Do you catch a vibe? What do you feel? And she could be like, you know what, she told fibs ever since she was a little girl. Yes.
Starting point is 00:22:58 And you can be like, really? And she'd be like, yes, I love her, darling. I really love her, but she just sort of chatted out her arse. And then you can be like, ah, because sometimes mums can see what you can't say. Yes, I love her darling. I really love her, but she just sort of chatted out her arse. And then you can be like, ah, because sometimes mums can see what you can't say. Yes, 100%. But then if she's like, oh darling, like, I think you really need to talk to Jeffrey about this, because Jennifer wouldn't mind about that kind of stuff. Be led on that. But you need to 100% talk to your boyfriend. And don't be accusatory.
Starting point is 00:23:19 But definitely be like, oh, I just had the weirdest conversation with Jennifer. Yeah. He's like, yeah, what's the matter? She said, she tried to kiss her at the thingy. If he's like, what? Or if he's like, read the face, read the face. Please write in there. Let us know how that goes.
Starting point is 00:23:34 Okay, I've got one more. Okay. Hi girls, I'm in a tricky spot at the moment. My best friend's boyfriend, maybe it's this one, has been messaging me. But, caveat, it's not flirty. It's more like he's venting about their relationship. Not right, that's not right. He says he doesn't feel like he can talk to her about it and now I feel like I'm stuck in the middle. I do want to betray my friend by keeping it a secret and almost then it seems like I agree with him but I also don do want to betray my friend by keeping it a secret and almost then it
Starting point is 00:24:05 seems like I agree with him, but I also don't want to cause unnecessary drama either. What should I do? It feels like I'm going against Gold Code, but I'm actually not doing anything. I would tell him, you need to find someone else to speak to about this. Because your loyalties are not with him. Personally, I'd be straight to you if your boyfriend was bitching to me about you. Like she is the most irresistible in her life. I'd be like, I personally think that's a sacrible offence. Yeah, I think that is so disrespectful.
Starting point is 00:24:32 Yeah. It's like, I'm sorry. Yeah, I agree with that. You can have your opinions. Yeah. Because if you're in a relationship, you're never going to be each other's biggest fans at times. No, of course. But if I went, it's like going to your like them and being like,
Starting point is 00:24:48 God, she's so fucking jarring, isn't she? Like, it's me now at the end of the day. It's me now. Like why are you doing that? Like, if Archie came to me and spoke a bad word about you, I'd be like, what the fuck? Yeah, it's really like your boyfriend coming to me and being like god Katie is just such a pain in the ass I'd be like whoa whoa whoa and look some people have no filters so I don't think it is actually a reflection on you he could just think oh I'll just tell her because she loves her so it's fine I just don't even think he's thought about them no one's told you but for one I think you need to make it stop.
Starting point is 00:25:25 Do as Katie said and be like, I cannot be this person to you. This is not it. I cannot be the person that you've been about my restaurant to. And also, tell the best day. Tell the best day and just be like, listen, this has happened. Please read the messages. I haven't said anything because I don't want you to get ganged up on. 100%. Because at the moment you have a broken girl code, but if you continue without telling her, then you will.
Starting point is 00:25:51 Then yes. And if you partake in the bitch. Oh, yeah. Oh, she is like that sum type. No, yeah, no. No, no, no, no, no, no. You can't do that. No, uh-uh. Uh-uh. Okay. Are we ready? Yeah, let's do it. Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee don't. Because I think it's a great example of girl code. Tell me, tell me, tell me. Telling a girl if they've got lipstick on their teeth. No. That's the biggest part of girl code.
Starting point is 00:26:30 Or like something in like a food in their mouth, something of I was speaking to someone they were like, I would be mortified. I would rather go the whole day not knowing and come back and like wipe off myself because I'd be so embarrassed if someone pointed it out. I think there's a way you go about it, where you kind of... You do it to me all the time! Yeah, because you're red-nobby! You're like, I just can't! Like, it keeps...
Starting point is 00:26:53 Like, often. I'm always one of those... No, I'd much prefer you to tell me that me leave looking like a bloody clown. There was a girl on my course who I really didn't like. Yeah, and she had once a huge bit of like custard on the side of her mouth or something. And no one said a fucking thing. And I went up to her and I was like, I'm sorry, I got a little something
Starting point is 00:27:17 there. And she was like, oh, thank you. See, I'm like, we don't even like you, but it's me, everyone's not telling you now. Yeah, it's actually, it's malicious. If you see that, I don't say anything. I'm not gonna do the same, like, if someone, I would want someone to tell me if I had bloody tomorrows with sauce around me chops. Yeah. So if someone else did, I'd be like, oh, just, Jesus.
Starting point is 00:27:37 And there's a way it can be done, it's saying to put all the bloody hells on your face. No, that's not it. Yeah, that's, you know. Yeah. That's perfect. You know, just... That's perfect. Yeah. Okay. So my ick this week, I heard someone say it on the bus.
Starting point is 00:27:56 And I was like, is this girl code or is it just bloody bitchy? She was... It was a backhanded compliment for sure. So there were these two friends, one of them, they were both completely different body shapes. Yeah. And also completely different heights. Right. One of them was really small. Yeah. And one of them was really tall. Yeah. The really tall one was a little bit slimmer and then the smaller one. Yeah, and this has no relevance apart from what happens in the story. The taller one said to the little one, she was wearing like a boob top and like a bandeau tie. And her boobs were like, she had like a great key, but she looked amazing. Nothing
Starting point is 00:28:41 about it was inappropriate. She looked amazing. And the friend said to us something like, Oh God, I just wish I could wear that on me. It would look tacky. For on you, it looks gray. And I just felt like turning around being like, leave the tacky. Leave what it would be looking on you. Just say you look great. Yeah. Just say it. I think that's backhanded. I'm like, that's not girl code. That's not that's backhanded Yeah, that's right. And it's not being like because that's because it's not like oh my god, you know for some Sometimes when girls yeah, you know, sometimes if you someone's got a great ass, I'll be like Oh wish I could wear that. My ass is flat. Yeah, yours is so great. You know, that's girl code
Starting point is 00:29:22 Yeah, let's say oh, you don't feel good looking like that. If I were, I'd be tacky. But you look good. Shut up. It's all in the delivery. Shut up. And it was like that. And I wanted to spin around like an owl, like through six, you spin with me head. So I would again like, just shush. Say you two again. And then I saw her pulling up and I was like, oh, you've made friends. And I was like, what a bitch. Oh, I hate that, what a bitch. Oh, I hate that. What a bitch.
Starting point is 00:29:47 Okay, now I've got a serious, is that right? Yeah. Oh, woo hoo. Yeah. So this week, I'm CL. And I'm serious. You are Katie Leitch. Well, my serious question to you is, do you think you can come back from breaking girl
Starting point is 00:30:02 code? Good question. Very good question for this week, Peach. It depends the severity. Right. For example, if we use what's done tonight, if Archie was bitching about me to you texting, I couldn't come back from that if you hadn't been telling me. Yeah. You know, when you were just like, oh She keeps saying she's a bitch, but hadn't tell her If you went on a date with like someone that I went on a like a date with but never even shouts Yeah, I think I could come back from that. It's like to be honest
Starting point is 00:30:39 She just you probably didn't know where to say it. You didn't know what yeah, and you probably were, Oh shit, I'm sorry, I got far too deep, I didn't know what to tell you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you know what I mean? So I think, It depends if there was malicious intent. Yes. Because everyone makes mistakes, so yes they do. Your mummy and your daddy and your little sister too. Tell them.
Starting point is 00:31:01 Big ones. Small ones. Matter of fact, all ones ones everyone makes mistakes oh yes they do so the point track song Katie yeah teach that to your kids where's that from my mum used to sing it to many she used to sing it to everyone mates and I'd be like yes I knew I was in trouble kitty everyone makes mistakes I'd be like aww what is it but my point is everyone makes mistakes so So I'm like, of course I can forgive. And also it means how much my friendship, if you did the dating of friend, I'd be like,
Starting point is 00:31:33 weird, but I love you. You probably just had it like a silly moment. It's fine. But if you were texting back to Archie, like, yeah, she can be like that. That feels like you don't like me. Yes. Yeah, very though. The making of it. How about you? I agree. I think there are varying tiers to what you can come back from and what you can't. Yeah. 100% I think like you said, it all depends on intent. Because if your best interests aren't at the forefront of it, then I'm like, no, this doesn't seem right. Yeah. Yeah. So my question is, would you rather accidentally spill a major secret your bestie told you? Like major. Maybe think of the one between us. Yeah. Which one
Starting point is 00:32:17 I'm thinking. Yeah. Like would you rather spill that and someone says something and I'm like, what the fuck? Or accidentally post on social media an intimate photo of her on social media. Now, don't get me wrong, it's not like a nude, but it could be like one she sent you like, oh, ha ha, this is hilarious, please do not send this to anyone. Please do not send this, but I was just wanting to send you to have a laugh. Maybe let's say for example, I got my wisdom teeth out. Yeah. And I'm like, you know, when I've
Starting point is 00:32:49 got like stuff in my mouth and I'm like, please do not post this. Or no, not even post something like that. I'm like, please don't show this to anyone, but I thought you'd find it funny. Definitely. It would have to be the photo. Are're kidding. Listen, I'm sorry, I love you, but the world can see your wisdom teeth. That's no problem. Yeah. I've got you in my widow twanky wig. I thought, I think in a few months we could laugh about it. That fact I've got in so much favour, whatever.
Starting point is 00:33:20 Like, that, I don't mind, you know, and also that can be taken down. Yes, yes. What. What something out verbally. Oh, good point. That's a really good point. Like if I, if you texted me a screenshot being like, why have you posted this? What the fuck? I'd be like, oops, I'll take it down. It goes.
Starting point is 00:33:37 Didn't mean to. Me finger slipped. Yeah. But if, if I just think you could not go to a group of people and spill your besties closest secrets, what the fuck? It always comes back. Always. Always. Even if you think it's never going to come back. It comes back. And the ones that you say don't tell, please, they will tell.
Starting point is 00:33:58 They will tell. And if they don't have your best intent, then they'll be like, and it'll be slipped. And you're like, yeah, yeah, you can't be doing that. No, I completely agree. Yeah, I feel like, feel shit if like a post is something you're like, can you not show anyone? Like, yeah, wait, if you were like, oh, Kit, please take that down. I'd be like, oh, shit, I'm so sorry. I'll do it right now.
Starting point is 00:34:21 We'd all laugh. And we'd all laugh and be like, do you remember when Kizizy had an absolute awful moment where she did that and we'd be like, yeah, sorry about that. But then if you told me something and you were deeply hurt or you were, it was something big in your life. And I was like, hear this. I would feel, and also malicious. Like you can't have girl code without trust.
Starting point is 00:34:39 No, 100%. And then I'd be like, I can't trust you. Exactly. So yeah. Well guys. My gosh, we've come to the end of the year. Hey, hey, hey, hey. Hey, hey, hey.
Starting point is 00:34:48 We've come to the end of the year. Run around you may call. Have a great week. Because we've come to the end of the year. We've done it. The wise old cells. Katie like little Yuda over there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:02 Gosh, guys, it's freezing. It's so cold. Just before we leave, it was snowing at, it's freezing. It's so cold. Just before we leave, it was snowing at my parents' house. It was snowing. It was snowing. People came into our covered in snow and I was like, were you jealous? Were you jealous? I was like, let me go. Lady, why are you just not letting me? Please, can I go play? Do you remember at school when it would be snowing and we'd be like, 20 pounds?'t go outside! We'd be like, who are we going to ask? Alright guys, have a great week, stay positive, stay happy and remember to protect your girl
Starting point is 00:35:30 code. Yes, we love you, goodbye! I've got a rebel soul I've got a rebel soul I've got a rebel soul I've got a rebel soul I've got a rebel soul

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