The Debrief - The Great Flashing Of 2021
Episode Date: June 12, 2023Welcome to the Debrief! We are Kitty and Katie, two gals trying to navigate life in our 20's living in London and wanting to bring you along for the ride. We're here to cover everything from nights ou...t, to career goals, to bad dates, and everything in between. We hope you enjoy, Monday’s are about to get a whole lot better.Want to debrief with us? Email hello@thedebriefpodcast.co.uk or DM us on instagram @the.debriefpodcastLots of love,Kitty and Katie x Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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I got a red bull soul, yeah, I got a red bull soul, I got a red bull soul
Hey! Debriefers! Debriefers with a capital D
Good morning my little friends. Good morning honey bumps. It is Monday morning, full of opportunity. Let's go out there
and get it. We're in the studio bright and early. We're smashing the day, aren't we Katie? We've
started our day on the right foot. We absolutely have. Right here. How are you darling? Last week
you were a bit worse for wear. Or was that the week before? It was the week before. It's all a
matter of the past now. I keep bringing it up. It was all a matter of the past now. Oh, no. And I keep bringing it up.
It was merely Katie of the past.
Yeah.
A fool.
I know, a fool.
But now I've risen.
Yeah.
Two weeks on.
You're like the Lazarus.
I am.
Aren't you?
I am.
Have you ever talked about how I used to be a bit of a Lazarus?
I actually don't know a lot about Mr. Lazarus himself.
Right, neither do I, but I'll tell you the story yeah please do so I used to have these house parties because I'm a bit of a legend sorry yeah yeah yeah you weren't invited sorry yeah yeah hostess with the most
absolutely um so I had this house party it was like with all my friends from school
we were having
like a brilliant time
anyway
I peaked too soon
as I usually do
and got absolutely
slaughtered
got absolutely
annihilated
had to go upstairs
vomited for
about
an hour and a half
two hours
like everyone was
kind of rubbing my back
laughing
taking a few
Snapchat stories
anyway
wiped my mouth put mascara back on my face, came downstairs.
Woohoo, who was back in the room?
Me.
Bit of mouthwash, you're good to go.
Me.
I was back.
I was like Lazarus.
Back from the dead.
I rose from the dead.
People thought, you know what, it's her time.
They were writing on my gravestone.
They had the flower arrangements.
Now, dickheads, I came down those stairs
with my white robe on
woohoo
and do you know what as well Katie
I bet none of them had fun
while I was upstairs
but they
no
but they were sat there like
oh
no this is my toxic trait as well
I just assume any room I'm not in
they're miserable
it's not toxic Katie
no
it's the truth
it's the truth
stay delusional
yeah stay delusional
stay delusional girlies delusional, girlies.
Delusional is the best way of living.
Delulu.
Delulu.
Do you know what I keep seeing?
That TikTok.
It's just going around in my head where it goes,
it's whack-a-doodle time.
It is whack-a-doodle time.
And honestly, like, anything that happens is slightly strange.
I'm like, it's whack-a-doodle time.
It is whack-a-doodle time.
I'm afraid I haven't heard that sound, Katie. Like, it's wackadoodle time. It is wackadoodle time. I'm afraid I
haven't heard that sound, Katie. Have you not? No, but I'm enjoying it. Clearly not
on the cool side of TikTok. Clearly not. So this week has been a pretty intense one. Hell
yeah. Yeah. Pretty intense. So just to keep the debriefers up, up and in the know.
So I had a really important audition
that I got to the final round for,
and then last week I found out that unfortunately
I didn't get it.
So, rejection, dealing with rejection,
whether that's career-wise, whether that's relationship,
it's always hard.
It's horrible. Really,
really hard. Really horrible. And let's be real guys, positivity is the way to keep
yourself going but sometimes there are days where that feels too hard. Yeah. And
when I found out I was absolutely devastated, I was really, really upset.
It's the hard work, it's the passion. And when it's such a long, drawn out process like this was, it is so difficult when you kind of make
peace with the outcome you want. Absolutely. And it's just a horrible, horrible feeling.
And you envision yourself doing it, being there, how you're going gonna get around that kind of thing yeah and so anyway this
leads on to my mantra of the week which is I look forward without any regrets and I acknowledge my
achievements I love that because I want to make it clear that I had a few days where it was really
upsetting and you know and there will
still be that disappointment that will be that oh god i wish that could have gone differently yeah
you get knocked down but you get up again it's how you deal with that rejection it is all about how
you respond to it because genuinely you could let this debilitate you you can and it's so possible
to just let it completely consume your life absolutely
even like any type of rejection is horrible yeah and it is awful but it's the courage that you had
to put yourself out there and get as far as you did thank you darling it's the absolute because
some people wouldn't even get that foot through the door it's the genuine like it's making peace with the fact that okay well
I've done everything I can and there's so much you can be so settled in that completely but I
either which way you spin it in any like aspect of life rejection is horrible it's so horrible and I
my mantra this week with saying I look forward without any regrets because and I acknowledge my achievements
yeah because you know I was stressing about people my close friends you and my family you know
discussing it and saying oh so how's it going well unfortunately I didn't get it you know um
no spin that let's flip that card yeah it's not an unfortunately I didn't get it it's flipped
yeah I got so far yeah and I learned so
much yeah and I had a fucking brilliant time yes there was a little disappointment or a huge
disappointment that I didn't get it yeah but what am I gonna learn from this exactly how am I gonna
make this something that makes me even more yeah whole you know? A hundred percent.
And I think there's so much gratitude,
even when you can't see it,
that clearly there's something around the corner.
Like you said, there's bigger things on the way
because everything happens for a reason.
I will assure you, you will understand.
Yes.
You've got the right people around you.
And oh my God, I can't thank everyone enough.
You, like you are my biggest support.
Oh my God, here we go, Katie.
Get the fucking violins out.
Oh my God.
Bring in the orchestra.
Come on.
No, but seriously, the way you supported me,
the way Archie supported me.
Yeah.
So I'm looking forward without any regrets.
Yeah.
Because I think I've done so much.
And I acknowledge that it was a huge thing that I did achieve.
Absolutely.
Not the negatives, the positives.
I think there's so much unnecessary shame that gets attached with rejection.
Completely.
Where you're like, oh, my God.
And you feel like I've had quite like my share of rejection over the past year.
And I remember I was just so embarrassed.
Yeah.
And I was like, oh, my God, like, I just feel so embarrassed.
But it's like, no, I put myself out there.
If it's not for them, it's not for them.
But I put myself out there.
And that takes a lot of courage.
Today wasn't the day, but tomorrow will be the day.
Absolutely.
It's knowing that brighter days are on the horizon
absolutely you know what one thing that's um i love is that i remember i think it was my mum told
me um when i was chatting to her and i was really upset about this certain rejection that i got and
she said you're in your whole life you haven't even experienced what you think you'll have like
your best day will be yet wow like wow you've had great
like great successes in your life already but imagine your biggest success you haven't had that
yet and you've got that to look forward to because that will come yeah there's like the happiest day
of our lives yeah completely over in the horizon that's going to top our happiest day so far
I think it's also the fact you have to remind yourself of the things you have done
rather than things that you haven't got absolutely it's like okay I might not have got this one thing
but what were the five things that I did yeah and then it's like wow and how old are we actually
we're so young and doing and doing these things yeah and really putting ourselves out there it's
so great to put into perspective and I think it in terms, it's like high risk, high reward.
Absolutely.
You really have to put yourself out on the limb.
Yeah.
And really give it everything you've got.
You have to.
Because there's, although there's a chance you might not, there's a chance you might.
Yes.
What is it?
What if you fall?
But what if you fly?
Yeah, come on.
No one will go through life without rejection it is a constant
in our lives the the most successful people in the world didn't just get yeses the whole way to
get to where they are they had they got knocked back there were massive knockbacks in every kind
of sector of successful people absolutely they've been told no at least once before. Yeah. Probably more. Yeah, probably more.
And it's how you bounce back.
It's the resilience.
And I think it's just amazing that you've got the attitude you have.
Thank you.
And that you have the character that you have to just be like,
I'm coming back, bitches.
See you next time.
I'm on it, girl.
I'm on it.
Absolutely.
And I'm really proud of you.
Thank you, darling. I really appreciate that. And thank And I'm really proud of you. Thank you, darling.
I really appreciate that.
And thank you for your friendship
because you do mean a lot to me.
So go on, darling.
Tell me your mantra.
I want to hear it.
My mantra this week is,
I feel like there's been a lot in the last week
and especially even this week as well
that I know I've got coming up
where I don't,
not necessarily I feel out of my depth, but I think wow this is a lot to balance okay um so my mantra this week is I can
handle it oh sweet and short and sweet love it I can handle it boom I had a really um challenging
singing lesson the other day okay um and it was one of those things that i was my my teacher gave
me a piece that she knew would challenge me and i get quite stressed out i'm a perfectionist
um and i didn't want to come with it unprepared but i also knew it wasn't great and i was like
oh my god like i'm really nervous um but it's one of those things where i was like no i can handle
this and she said to me she's's like, you can handle this.
Like, this is absolutely doable for you.
Just because when you listen to it, you immediately shut yourself down.
Don't do that.
I can handle it.
You can handle it.
Yeah.
Or we can handle it.
Yeah, we can.
Let's Debray
Yeah
Oh that was a new one
Yeah I gave you a bit of a dress on there
I loved it
We've got an exciting weekend coming up
Don't we Katie?
We do
We do
We're both away
Not together unfortunately
But we're both away
So the episode after that
You're going to be getting the full load down
On our escapades
Oh my god guys You're going to be so excited Because you'll be able to hear about everything that's happened.
Katie, tell me where you are, what you're doing, who you're with.
So I am going with some gorgeous school friends, including the debrief editor, Justine.
I love her dearly.
Oh, Justine.
We are off to Cornwall.
I'm so excited because the last time I went to Cornwall
was, again, with these same girls,
and we had the best time.
And I love it.
It's gorgeous, and I've never been to Cornwall.
I've never been to Cornwall.
Is this your first time going?
This is the second time.
Second time, sorry.
So I went with the girls last time,
and then we're going again,
and it's for my school friend's sister's birthday,
and I'm going with her family as well.
So it's just going to be gorgeous,
like wholesome vibes.
Although...
Will it be drinky-poos?
I think there'll be lots of wine involved.
So I've told them to hide their water bottles.
Yeah, yeah.
Just in case.
Hide their water bottles.
So we're going.
It's going to be lovely and wholesome.
I think I'm going to get a book.
Although, guys, I can't.
Book?
Yeah, because they kept mentioning they're going to bring lots of books to read.
What are you going to read?
Where's Wally?
They'll be reading their, like, philosophy, like, film books.
And then I'm like, I'm reading the Rainbow Fairies.
Biff and Chip.
I loved the Rainbow Fairies.
I'll be like, guys, the magic key.
Biff's gone through it.
He's gone through the door.
How did he do it? I'm like, guys, the magic key. Biff's gone through it. He's gone through the door. How did he do it?
Like, fuck me.
I also think, though, one thing that is very key is holiday prep.
Holiday preparation.
Oh, absolutely.
Because this is a holiday.
It is a UK-based holiday, but a holiday nonetheless.
It's by Holiday Vibes.
Wow.
The sun is going to be out.
Yeah.
I need to get waxed.
However- You've got bush, don't you? No.
But let's- let's put it to the debrief. What do people get if you choose to remove your vagina hair?
That's bad. We can't-
No. Say- just say-
Say pubes.
Pubes.
It is the worst.
Do you?
Pubes. Say pubes.
I've been put to count of one.
Do you say it again?
I can't. If can of one. Okay, say it again. Like, if... I can't, I can't.
If you're getting hair removal,
are you getting a Hollywood?
Are you getting a Brazilian?
Oh, I see.
Are you getting a bikini line?
Okay.
What do people go for?
Because I used to be a true,
tried and true Hollywood girl.
Get it all away.
Yeah. I don't want it all away. Yeah.
I don't want to see her.
Yeah.
And honestly, I think waxing's a very beneficial thing,
so the more you do it, the longer it takes to grow back.
I just want to get laser.
Oh, I want to get laser.
I want to get laser so badly.
I want to get laser.
Yeah, but girlies out there, what are we doing?
Are we shaving?
Are we waxing?
If I had to put money on it right now
I would say
the majority shave
I need to sort
myself out as well
though because
I'm off to Tuscany
this weekend
you are
Tuscany
Tuscany
Tuscany
Tuscany
is it a couples
holiday
it's a couples
holiday
oh fuck
I've never been
on a couples
holiday
it's quite scary
but the people
that I'm going with are Archie's co-workers.
Lovely.
And we went on a couple's holiday last year as well to Budapest.
Yes.
So I know two of the couples quite well.
Yeah.
One that I've met loads and loads and loads of times.
They are gorgeous.
You know them well as well.
And then another couple that I met last time who was so nice.
and they are gorgeous, you know them well as well.
And then another couple that I met last time who were so nice.
And then the friend's sister and her boyfriend.
Yeah.
But I reckon she'll be amazing because she'll just be like her.
Yeah.
But yeah, it's always a bit scary like meeting new people and they're having to kind of blend, see what the vibes are.
I just hope I find a Katie.
Good luck.
I need to find...
You won't.
Try.
Try.
I dare you.
I dare you.
I dare you.
You can't.
But you know what I mean?
I need my girly time.
Because if Archie's doing dolphins in the pool,
I'm not dolphin around.
I need to be getting on that tanning bed.
Well, not tanning bed, but sunbed. Yeah, I think... And getting on that tanning bed yeah I'm not tanning bed but sunbed
yeah I think and getting those rays is it skin what is the vibe with like a couple's holiday
because like do you have your own time or like yeah do you know what that's what I love nice
you're so right I'm like do you have sex I'm like'm like, what's it like? I don't know.
Oh, will it?
The only thing that I was slightly worried about last time is the shagging.
Yeah, because you'll all be shagging.
Because we'll all be shagging.
So I was like, will it be like a relay?
Like you go, they go, then you go. Or is it going to be like all at the same time?
No.
Is it going to be all at the same time rocking from side to side?
Would you get put off though if you heard like four other couples shagging while you're shagging?
I think that would put me off a bit.
It wouldn't put me off, but it would put Arch off.
He has to be in a fucking like tomb.
But the good thing about the Tuscany is we're in this really big
villa and it's kind of got like their own spaces so we're gonna be in our
ahhhh
guys you should have just seen Katie I said it's a really big villa with its own spaces
she starts sucking her frank green water bottle and goes ahhhh
you're a strange woman Katie Leitch
yeah but in a lovable way and goes, oh, that's nice. You are a strange woman, Katie Leach.
Yeah,
but,
in a lovable way.
Yeah,
but,
yeah,
it's interesting,
that one.
What are you doing,
Katie,
to prep?
I need to fake time.
So do I. Oh,
Katie.
Yeah,
do you know what,
y'all?
Oh,
here's a podcast first,
actually.
You're about to witness
a beef in the studio.
Oh, no, what?
So I'm, like, looking high and low for my fake tan.
Looking high and fucking low.
I'm like, I need to fake tan.
I need to fake tan for Cornwall because I want to look bronze on that pebbly beach.
And I was looking around and I'm thinking, oh, it's not in here.
I thought, do you know who I think will have it?
Archie.
Yeah.
So I go into your room.
Open the drawer and I go, ah, pick it up.
Light as a fucking feather.
Light as a feather, guys.
About three quarters of it is gone.
Saint-Tropez mind.
How to shell out a lot of moolah.
Oh, I'm sorry, Kate. And I'll admit, I'm saying this all while I'm wearing contrappé mind. I have to shell out a lot of moolah for that.
Oh, I'm sorry, Kate.
And I'll admit, I'm saying this all while I'm wearing your earrings.
Yeah, do you know what? Do you know what?
However...
Where's my setting spray?
Yeah, I thought you'd have that.
No, I genuinely don't know where that is.
Oh, do you actually know?
I genuinely don't.
Because I can't find it.
Idiot! So I'll retract that. Yeah, okay, do you actually not? I genuinely don't. Because I can't find it. Idiot! So I'll retract that.
Okay, do you retract that one? I'll backpedal it.
Look, we're all about
accepting and receiving and apologising and owning,
you know? So right here and right now,
I'm going to say I'm really sorry, Katie. All about forgiveness.
Yeah. And I forgive you.
Thanks. I forgive you for the fucking earrings, you
greb. I was like, you can keep them.
You and your little gibbers ears. No, you've got
lovely ears. I've got lovely ears. take that back. I take it back.
Yeah. So Katie, the question is when are we doing a holiday together? You and me, the debrief.
What would you do if I booked a holiday and we go to like, actually this could be offensive.
Oh, yeah, Katie be careful. Our demographic here might be going down.
Katie's like, what would you do if we just like booked a holiday to
Central Bay? And I'm like Katie's like what would you do if we just like booked a holiday to Saint-Tropez
and I'm like
yeah
yeah
no it's like
when Katie does this
she goes
she goes
would you rather
would you rather
have
two weeks
in Monaco
yeah
or get your arsehole waxed
I can never I can never
I can never find the happy medium
she gets so confused
she panics
she's like
oh
oh
and then she just splurges
and she's like
oh no that wasn't right
that wasn't
that wasn't it
like would you rather
do a month
in Suntra pay
all expenses paid
food for free
accommodation
everything is free shopping spree is free or in Santa pay yeah all expenses paid yeah food for free accommodation everything
is free shopping sprees free or do two nights in the local premier inn
guys you've got this really skanky like premier inn near us it's really I'm 24 past one evening and she's like sighing
I'm like oh gosh
she's going to say something
here we go
I was like what a case
she goes
I'd love to stay in that
premier inn one time
I would
I'm all about
holidaying in your own city
wow
I'd love to stay
in that premier inn
because if you're that
premier inn breakfast
their muffins
are fucking sensational
you'd be a muffin
I would be a muffin
in your eye
say muffin
muffin
and then say I'm a muffin I'm a muffin say I would be a muffin in your eye. Say muffin. Muffin. And then say I'm a muffin. I'm a muffin. Say it. Say it. I'm like your performing monkey.
Say it. Say it. Say it. No, straight face. I'm a muffin. What would I be?
Crumpet.
No, I'm not a crumpet.
Am I?
I want you to be an almond croissant.
Oh, you bitch.
I'm not an almond croissant.
You are an almond croissant.
It's almond.
You always say almond.
It is almond.
You always say almond.
It's almond.
Well, sorry, my love.
It's my northern roots.
It's tough.
It's me tough.
It's me northern roots, darling.
Northern roots.
Yeah.
Kitty.
I love that.
I grew up in Cambridge, guys.
I'm not... Yeah, yeah.
I know.
Do you always...
I'm so fucking fake.
I lived in Yorkshire for a year and I'm like...
Hello, love.
Hello, love.
How we doing?
We all right?
Someone came into work actually yesterday and they were from Leeds.
And all of a sudden they
were like oh i said are you visiting for a while from leeds oh leeds that's lovely that would you
like would you like receive would you and i was like katie that's really embarrassing i mimic
accents a lot oh my god i've got something to tell you oh so someone texted me about the podcast and
they were like we love the podcast and i was like, we love the podcast, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I was like, oh, thanks, blah, blah.
And then they said, it's so funny though because I listen to you and then I've watched your videos
and it's different to how you sound.
You look different to what I imagine.
And I was like, this is really weird.
Oh, my God.
Really weird.
You don't know them, but I'll tell you after the podcast.
Yeah.
And I was like, this is really strange the podcast and I was like this is really strange
weird
I was like
what do you mean
weird
so then I'm like
so is either my voice
feral
and then they look at me
and think
oh wow
what a piece of arse
or is my voice
like a piece of arse
and they look at her
and they think
she looks like
fucking Shrek
I don't
that's really interesting
so now I'm panicked
I always found this about
radio hosts do you know what I mean like I used to
listen I went through a phase where I just exclusively listened to the radio like all the
time how old are you I know like I used to put it on in the car when I used to drive to work
because I always just got bored of like the pressure of a playlist so I just put the radio on
and I didn't know what these like hosts looked like and then I saw, I think it was, what's his name from Radio 1, Jordan,
he went on I'm a Celeb,
and I was like, that's what he looks like.
I was like, that's hilarious.
Yeah.
Jordan North.
I was like, oh my God,
I didn't know that's what you look like.
So what do you think people think we look like?
Because this is really stressing me out now.
I think my voice sounds worse than I look.
Katie and I are having a date together on Friday.
Hell yeah.
We're getting pissed.
We're getting fucked up.
No, we're probably not.
We're just going to be catching up,
talking about all of you guys.
Yeah.
We're chatting shit.
Yeah.
Katie, can you get wifed up now?
Stop.
Can you please?
I am.
No, I'm annoyed now.
No, this is the second beef on the podcast actually hit me because you're
actually pissing me off yeah i know no you are i know your single life is pissing me off because
i want to no don't take a breath like that wait i want to see you loved up i want to see because
you catch me all the time giving you the ick when i say or Archie says you know exactly what I'm talking about.
You know exactly what I want to see you simping Katie. I'm a massive simp and I don't shy away
from that. Be a simp to me now. That face! I want to see your simp with a boyfriend. I think I...
Come on, come on. Guys, I hate to bring...
Oh my god, I was about to call you Arch then.
Come on, Arch!
I hate to bring astrological signs into this, however, I am a Pisces.
Hate to be that bitch, but I am.
I'm a Cancer.
I'm very emotional.
I hate to be that, but...
I'm very sensitive.
They are, because we're both water signs.
Okay, okay.
Yeah.
Very emotional, very sensitive, daydream a lot.
I get carried away with myself
so if i meet a man daydreamer daydream believer and a homecoming queen yeah yeah so go on um
i think i'm i'm very good i'm a girlfriend, guys. I'd be great in a relationship.
This is just my video application.
I'm just kind of putting it out there.
Actually, say your best three qualities now.
Oh, gosh.
Oh, my gosh.
How can I possibly?
I'm hilarious.
Seriously, guys, that's really put me on the spot.
I'm sexy
I've got the best
ass you'll ever see
so what would you say
that's a joke guys
my ass is flat
no it's great
it's great guys
I'm in the gym
three things about yourself
Katie now
now
I give
good little gifts
I don't think
I'm a good gift giver
however I think
I give good like
if I see your favourite chocolate
I'll get it on the way home
where's the woman I'll get it on the way home.
Where's the woman?
I'll always send a text asking how your day is.
I'll always check in.
I'll always be like, how are you doing?
Yeah.
Okay, so you've got a good body.
I've seen it all.
Oh, God.
I've seen it all when you were naked and afraid.
Oh my God, I've got the funniest thing to tell you.
Oh my God.
I've got the funniest thing to tell you. Oh my God, so my birthday's coming up. Oh, God, I've got the funniest thing to tell you. Oh my God. I've got the funniest thing to tell you. Oh my God.
So my birthday is coming up.
Oh God.
And I'm having this huge 21st joint with my dad.
And he's having his 50th and I'm having my 21st.
So it's all my friends and family as well as my dad's friends and mum's friends.
Anyway, my auntie sends me a message.
No.
Saying how she's loving the podcast.
She was like, I'm loving the podcast i'm listening
to it this is hilarious you and katie are hilarious i was like pretty sure i was like
if you just say that online yeah like if you could say that under a video we'd appreciate it
and but she said that and then she was like but not quite i just can't stop thinking about
my house with a face in a bowl i was like do you know she had to get a new bowl
because that was her cooking bowl it she had to get a new bowl?
Because that was her cooking bowl.
It was from, it was a meatballs bowl, I remember her saying.
Yeah, and you were naked and afraid in her house.
I was so, I'm so sorry.
But when you work naked and afraid, Katie, you've got a good body.
So I had to put that out for that.
Thanks.
Yeah.
Thanks.
Well done.
Yeah, you've got a luxury.
You've got a big luxury.
What? Seeing all me. Oh, yeah, yeah, sorry. Me, as I got a luxury. You've got the big luxury. What?
Seeing all me.
Oh, yeah, yeah, sorry.
Me, as I am.
Yeah.
100% me.
I know.
Yeah.
I know.
It was quite a day, Katie.
I felt... Actually, if I could say my top three moments in my life,
I'd put it out there.
Being born.
I'd say...
Yeah.
Me being born.
Nah, that wouldn't be it, right?
And then seeing me. Stalkers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Actually, that't be it and then seeing me
stalkers
yeah yeah yeah
actually that would be it
oh my god
Justine do not say this
please edit this out
it'd also be
your vagina
through your leggings
I think you should keep this in.
I forgot about that.
I forgot about that.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
No, we have to tell the story.
We have to.
This is the best story ever.
When I say cuss parade.
I had these black...
So I...
I'm dying.
I'm dying.
I put like leggings and a big jumper on.
We were in halls at the time. We were in halls at the time.
We were in halls at the time.
We haven't known each other that long.
No.
And I didn't have any panties on underneath these leggings
because it was the evening.
I was getting ready for bed.
I was like, I'll just put these leggings on to go into the kitchen.
But then I got stuck.
We got chatting in the kitchen,
but under the
fluorescent lights the leggings were so see-through i look over and see just staring and then she got
this like the light you know he's created sugar but it's like oh the shines and the valves were
spotlights katie's puss was on the spotlight the power puss was on show
I was just sat there
and I just was like looking at Gaty
smiling and then I just
I was like
what is that I'm seeing
the fourth thing
I could see the full Vaheen
she was out
I genuinely
I've never laughed like that so much
in my life
that was an epic so three moments would be Gatys I genuinely... She was winking. I've never laughed like that so much in my life. I've never laughed like that.
That was an epic...
So, three moments would be...
Katie is...
Katie is machine.
Through the leggings.
Seeing Katie naked and afraid.
And...
I shall see you naked again at some point, Katie.
Probably.
Have you seen my machine?
Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah, of course some point, Katie. Probably. Have you seen my machine? Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, of course you have.
Yeah.
Yeah, many times.
Nice, isn't it?
Yeah.
I've never seen you.
I've never done.
Yeah.
I get very scared every time we go into the loo on a night out.
I'm like...
Although, so, Charlotte, Archie's sister,
love you, girl, love you so much.
Love you, Charlotte.
Honestly, we have so much love for you.
So her good friend is a midwife.
Oh, God.
Every time...
How are we doing for time?
All right, I can still talk.
God, fuck me, I'll have to tell the story quick.
Sorry, just didn't be a lot of editing today.
So, midwife, her friend is a midwife,
and she tells me, like, about all the different types of the genes how they look so different and she said how you can get really ugly ones and
stuff so then now i'm like what does mine look like but the thing is as well is that apparently
after you give birth your vagina changes i know that scares me which scares me because you know
she also told me a really good story that she said that mostly with every single woman
that's given birth, they do shit while they...
I've heard this.
Yeah, but my mum did.
Have I told you the story?
Did she share?
My mum did.
I'm so sorry, Mum.
No, no, no, she didn't.
No, she didn't.
I'm sorry.
She pushed me out, but then she grabbed me.
She thought this was a bit of shit on my face.
She started scrubbing at her.
She's like, there's shit on my baby's face.
And she's like, why does it come off?
She's like, why is it coming off?
But I'm there like...
I was like, oh my God.
Hey, girl.
But she said that when these women shit,
she doesn't tell...
The husband will see it and be like...
And she'll be like, don't you fucking say anything to her.
Don't you say anything to her.
Because she's been through so much.
Apparently,
apparently like,
I love it.
I,
I knew someone that was a midwife
and they said that they literally don't notice
that they're shitting.
So they literally,
they can just clear it up.
Like they clear it up
and they don't really notice
because they're obviously like so focused
on pushing the babby out.
That would be the least of your concerns.
I'm sure when you're at that point, you genuinely don give a shit no like well i hate to be so on the nose yeah yeah
but i remember because my my mom says it all the time she's like i've had three kids i don't really
give a shit yeah i don't care like three kids you know yeah i'm powerful yeah yeah yeah right we need to move on
don't we
shit we've been chatting
for so long
x x x x
x x x x
okay
I've only
I've only got one sweet
so have I
oh my god
ping pong
you go first
ready
love it
go
um
um
they won't be listening
to the podcast anyway
but um
I had
a phone call the other day
and
a friend of mine
whenever she talks about
her boyfriend and I've seen it when she's with
her boyfriend she will speak in a baby voice
and it genuinely
makes me want to never touch a man again
oh my god do it What's it like?
Hey, well.
Oh, and I'm so upset that they're not here.
And oh, I know.
And oh, they got me this the other day.
And do you know what?
I've seen them talk to each other in a baby voice before.
Like, oh, hello, good morning.
And I'm like, fucking hell.
Should we do it now?
No.
Nothing angers me more.
And do you know what it's even
it's even the someone else a bit harsh no no it's like why am i here yeah
shit suggestions um but it's when they're away from each other and i've seen him do it as well
about her be like oh no way and they just talk about like when they're talking about each other
when they're not even together but they do the baby noise
the baby voice
and I'm literally like
said I
bombastic said I
bombastic said I
maybe call me a snake
maybe it's because
I'm not loved up
but I think it's
fucking strange
do I do it
no
do I do a baby
oh thank god
no
thank god
we wouldn't be sat here
if you were
no no
we wouldn't be recording a pod
no
no
I couldn't do it
imagine every time you talk about Archie, like,
and Archie, Archie got me some flowers from Lidl.
Oh, my God.
Actually, one of my ex-boyfriends did that.
It fucking icks me out.
He'd be like, how's the kitty today?
I'm like, don't!
It makes me physically sick.
She's fine.
And I don't...
She's fine for this.
And I'm distressed and confused and repulsed like i don't like
being spoken down to or like the third person like how's the little kitty i'm like i'm fine
i don't know anymore yeah okay oh no again yeah there you go um okay so my ick is by myself this week okay
so
oh my god
Archie's trying to call me
uh
Archie
don't you know
I'm a working woman
she is
will it still record though
even if that phone is
looks like it's still recording
okay
yeah it's still recording
um
so ick was by myself
so you know how
I went home on the weekend
yeah
to see my
parents which was really nice just get some home comforts get some reassurance
lift me up a bit anyway it was sad just having a good old chit-chat in the
chit-chat in the afternoon yeah and clearly I was feeling sensitive but I'm
okay so my dad and arch well you know they've got the greatest relationship
yeah they just love each other so much.
Anyway, they're bantering, they're bantering.
But usually,
they kind of tease me as well,
but it's in a lovable way.
Yeah.
And I'm like, oh, don't they know me so well?
Yeah, sometimes it's nice.
I'm like, I love this.
I love this.
Anyway, God, something,
something happened, Kasey.
Something happened.
I'm literally sat there.
I lash out irrationally. They're both like laughing, like, ha ha, ha ha. And then I'm literally sat there. I lash out irrationally.
They're both like laughing, like, ha ha, ha ha.
And then I'm like, can you stop this?
And I'm like, looking around.
Oh, no.
You know I'm sensitive at the moment.
I've just been through a rejection.
I don't appreciate being the butt of your jokes.
Silence.
Everyone kind of looks down,
sips their fucking tea like this.
What did you do?
Did you go?
Did you get up and leave?
Do you know what, Katie?
There was a moment where I thought about leaving
because I was so embarrassed.
Did you say it and then you were like, oh.
Well, I said it and thought, yeah.
And then thought, no.
But then how did you come back from that?
Well, I couldn't.
Well, the only way I could is I sat there
and then Archie was looking down and he's,
sorry, sorry, Kit.
And my dad went, sorry, quackers.
And I was like, oh.
And then my mum's looking at me and I'm like, oh.
I'm like, have I reacted?
Do you know that awkwardness when someone's like,
no, I've had enough.
And everyone's like. Yeah. Yeah, no, I've had enough, and everyone's like...
Yeah.
Katie, I was embarrassed for myself.
So then we had a bit of time, and then I just had to say,
hey, guys.
Hey, sorry about that.
You know what just kind of happened there?
I'll take it back.
It kind of came over me.
Something came over me.
Yeah.
It was like, something happened to me there.
Oh, Katie, you're so embarrassed. Oh, my is this is the problem irrational this is the thing like i
remember actually where i've had a situation where i've almost done something like that and i thought
casey if you do this like you this will be this will be embarrassing yeah it's like when you're
on the verge of being like i've had enough now stop it this is literally like
that's how I said it as well
I was like guys
you've really
guys seriously
and they blessed them as well
they weren't even laughing
they just sat there like
and I was like
I feel worse
I was like
at least laugh at me now
so then I had to be like
look guys
put my hands up
there was clearly
something going on
I'm sorry about that
yeah sorry about that
that was just not me that was just not me hey that. Yeah, sorry about that. That was just not me.
That was just not me.
Hey.
That wasn't me.
That wasn't me.
It was the inner girl.
Yeah, something came out of me there.
Question?
Question.
Question.
Question?
Serious questions?
No, I've got a great one.
Give me.
I'm serious this week.
Give me, give me.
And you're silly.
Give me, give me.
So, my question is, it's really, really good.
Mm-hmm. serious this week and you're silly. Gimme, gimme. So, my question is, it's really, really good.
Would it bother you if your boyfriend
had a lower libido
than you did? Oh!
Yes. Okay, explain.
Yes. I think
Oh!
No, it would. Tell me why.
Because, I don't know, maybe it's just the
if I was like, oh, shall we?
And they're like, no.
I'd feel really, I'd feel really mugged off.
I'd literally be like.
So you said, shall we?
Shall we?
But that's the reason he said no.
I feel like.
Shall we?
If I'm greasing the wheels
and then like
if I start kissing him
and then he's like
oh no not tonight
I'd be like
I'd feel so rejected
I'd literally cry
I'd be like
oh god
I'm like
oh I'm ugly
oh you don't want me
get back into my cove
oh never mind
oh no
I feel
and we shouldn't like
as females you know
put pressure on ourselves to feel this way or make Oh, never mind. Oh, no. I feel, and we shouldn't like, as females, you know,
put pressure on ourselves to feel this way.
Yeah.
Or make a guy not wanting to shag you that evening such a big thing.
But I would deep it.
And so would I.
Like, I have quite a high sex drive,
but thankfully so does Arch.
And I would say Arch always wants her and always makes her known so I feel like
lusted after I'm like oh well he's really attracted to me he really wants me I'm never
like do you like me literally this is the thing because I feel like then would stress
me out it's complete personal preference but I think you can't I personally would want
to have a relationship where someone's like can't keep their hands off me yeah they're like oh god
like you're so sexy enough of you like yeah yeah kind of vibe yeah then you feel oh my god this is
passionate and then it also makes you want to kind of try it on with them
like you know teasing yeah yeah i could, I just really struggle with that.
What about you?
No.
I think the answer would have to be the same,
which is really hard because people don't always,
I feel sorry for men that men are stereotyped
to have a really high sex drive and all of that kind of,
and women are stereotyped to not.
So when I think a woman has a very high one and a man doesn't
it's frowned upon and we know someone that that happened in the relationship yes yeah and i
remember you and i even discussing thinking that's a bit strange but it it actually isn't yeah and
however for me personally i'm not judging anyone else i'm just saying upon reflection for myself
i'd find it difficult i'd find it for the I've said, that I would then be confused.
I would think, well, Arch was really attractive to me.
I don't understand.
But I've known, like, people in relationships where they both say they have quite a low sex drive
and they're very, like, happy with it.
Yeah.
They say they wouldn't want it all the time.
How interesting.
So it's an interesting, it's completely personal preference.
And I think it's just my preference that I'd rather have someone with a high sex drive.
Yes.
Yes.
Okay.
Right.
Go on, darling.
Take it away.
Silly question.
Yeah.
So, if you could be romantically with any fictional character,
Oh my God.
who would you want to be with?
Like any,
any fictional character you could go like musical characters,
film character,
like cartoon.
Oh my God. I've got an answer which is really cringy.
Which is really like 2018.
Yeah.
Oh.
Yeah.
I feel like I know who you're going to say.
Yeah.
Go for it.
Damon Salvatore, 100%.
I fucking love...
I want him to just fuck me over and then fuck me.
Yeah.
He's just such a sexy man.
Damon Salvatore could run me over and I'd say thank you.
And I don't want Ian Somerhalder.
I want Damon.
Damon.
Damon Salvatore.
I remember back in the day I used to be a Stefan fan, but fuck.
Oh, you feral.
You feral.
I used to be big.
Like, the Vampire Diaries I was fucking obsessed with. oh you feral I used to be you feral I used to be big like the vampire diaries
I was fucking obsessed with
I actually had a jumper
that said I love Damon Salvatore
that's embarrassing
really embarrassing
do you know what's even more embarrassing
I went to a non-uniform school
I wore it to school
no
no
yeah I did
I tell you who else
I kind of fancied though
which is a bit embarrassing now
but I also really fancied
did you ever watch Peter Pan
but the film
not the cartoon
yes
oh my god yes
I really fancied that blonde boy
no isn't he
I really fancied him
do you know who I
I thought I could be his Wendy
and he could just take me away
take me away
give you the kiss
take me away
and we could fly together
yeah
so I'd like to be with him
but then I'm thinking
do I want to be sexual with him?
not really
but do you know
I wanted a little thimble
do you remember
he gave her a thimble
for a kiss
I would have wanted
one of them
but I don't think
I'd want him
rumpy bumpy at me
I think
no
back yourself away my friend
do you know who I
would
love
go on
Cedric Diggory
Harry Potter
he's a bit
of a snob
oh no no no, no.
Do you know who I...
Who?
Neville Longbottom.
Oh, Katie.
I always had such a thing for Neville Longbottom.
If you say you have high standards and you want fucking Neville Longbottom...
I'm telling you.
You've seen him.
Full film onwards.
Yeah, he's fit.
Come hither.
He's fit.
Like, when he's in the foot, like, bless him.
He had a very fat suit, though, to be fair.
Did he?
Yeah, he did.
Oh, he's like... Bless him. He's he did. Oh, he's like, bless him.
He's very attractive.
No, he's fit though.
He's really fit.
He's really fit.
And I remember I watched the fourth one and I was like,
Oh my God, I'll tell you who I fancy there.
Yeah.
Did you ever watch iCarly?
Yes.
The brother.
Ah, Spencer!
Really?
Which kind of shows me now why I'm with Arsh.
Really? He was so funny
he was so like
outgoing
he is isn't he
I was like
I like him
but then again
do I want to be sexual
with him
no
but would I want him
to take me on a date
yes
I remember
I had such a thing
for Josh
out of Drake and Josh
what
I know
Josh
that's rare
because he was hilarious
and I was like Because he was hilarious.
And he was funny,
to be fair. And then the classics like
High School Musical
for Jonas Brothers.
Yeah.
I mean,
Troy!
I wanted,
I wanted Troy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I loved it.
It was so good.
Who else would I want to be with?
I'm trying to think.
Oh, my God.
Ryan Gosling, The Notebook.
What's his character called?
I've never seen The Notebook.
What?
I hate to say it.
I hate to break it to you on the board.
What's wrong with you?
I've never seen The Notebook.
Okay, so let me tell you a quick scene.
Yeah.
So she's on this Ferris wheel.
Yeah.
On a date with another guy.
He wants her.
He wants her. He wants her.
He's seen her and he's like, she is fit.
She's like, she's so sexy.
So he climbs up this Ferris wheel while the Ferris wheel's going around,
hangs off and he's like, I'll take you on a date.
And she's like, no, I'm with this other guy.
And he's like, I'm taking you on a date.
And she's like, no.
He says, I'm going to let go if you don't say that I can take you on a date.
And she's like, fine, fine, I'll take you on a date. And she's like, fine, fine, I'll take you on a date.
And he's like, okay.
I'm like, I want, that is so sexy,
like being wooed like that, being wanted like that.
Katie, Frye, no, when we have a girls' night together,
we're watching The Notebook, because you will love it.
I just know I'm gonna cry,
which is why I avoid watching it,
because I cry at every fucking film.
I cry at an advert, so I think, and they say it's quite a tearjerker film,
The Notebook,
so I'm like,
I always try to steer clear.
Yeah, it is.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But,
oh, that's a really good question.
I know,
that was a great one, Katie.
So,
Damon Salvatore,
Spencer,
Peter Pan,
Yeah.
Drake,
and
Ryan Gosling in The Notebook.
Love me.
Smashed it.
Smashed it.
Smashed it.
Guys.
The time has come.
To say goodbye.
We almost had it.
We almost did it.
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