The Debrief - We’re Going Into The Love Island Villa

Episode Date: July 3, 2023

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🎵 Hello! Good morning everyone! Good morning, happy Monday or lunes as the Spaniards say. Oh, is it? Is it? Oh! I think it is! Actually. I think it is.

Actually, I think it is. What's it in French? Oh, I wasn't great at French, Katie. I couldn't tell you. Lundi. Who? Lundi. Are you sure?

Happy Lundi. Happy Lundi. We'll do some research, guys, maybe. But happy Monday, my friends. How are we feeling? Are we feeling fresh? Are we feeling funky? Are we feeling wholesome?

Do you know what? I'm not as scared as a Monday as I used to be. No, the Sunday scaries aren't as bad as they once were. No, when I was at school, Mondays used to be like, ah! Like a brawl. I'd be so scared. Probably like, oh, it's Monday again. Yeah.

And, of course, it was like boarding school times. Yeah. So it was long hours. I was like, oh. It was quite long hours for you, wasn't it? Long hours, absolutely. Working you to the bone. Yeah.

Yeah. I've been hard working since day one, Katie. Yeah. Yes, yes, yes. But now I embrace a Sunday. I, there's something about a Sunday reset where you strip the bed. Clean sheets.

Clean sheets. Lover. Over that floor, wipe the surfaces, maybe light a candle how wild are you feeling? I've actually got a new candle and Archie's sister gave me a Jo Malone candle oh my god it smells like lavender and perfection oh there's some things that I feel like once I have in my home yes I'll know I've made it in life and that is a three wick Jo Malone candle

oh and a shark a shark vacuum cleaner oh and a Dyson you can't yeah you can't neglect the Dyson's as well

although the sharks are better because Dyson don't pick up hair oh well I'll need that I know I molt like a dog yeah I molt all I want or you could be an absolute legend like my mum. Yeah. She's got robot vacuum cleaners.

Oh, my God. So there's someone who I worked with once who said they have a Roomba and it moult as well. A Roomba? It's called a Roomba. It's called a Roomba. She's got a Roomba. Yeah, she does have a Roomba. Oh, wow. Well, I'm not sure if it's called a Roomba. She's got a Roomba. Yeah, she does have a Roomba. Oh, wow. Well, I'm not sure if it's called a Roomba. But my mum does.

My mum does, like, the little robots that goes around. And she's called one of them Bobby and one of them Boris. And she literally will be like, Bobby? She's like, if you could clean the kitchen. And it, like, and it goes around and starts cleaning the kitchen. I need to see this. Oh, it's great. I'm excited. I'm excited.

Sleepover! Sleepover, Katie! Sleepover! Right, Katie, let's crack into it, darling. Let's sitting next to me? I'm excited, yeah. Sleepover! Sleepover! Sleepover! Woohoo! Right, Katie, let's crack into it, darling. Let's crack into it. Mantras, mantras, mantras. M-m-m- this week. My mantra this week, I feel... Oh, love the energy.

Yeah. Yeah. I'm really motivated. I'm loving life. And I am saying if I can envision it, it is achievable. Oh, I love it. I love it. I love it.

If you can see it be done, you can do it yourself, my friends. Great. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Give me an example of what you can see happening that you want to happen so um well the podcast seminar that we watched oh absolutely that was great i was really like this is so yeah yeah yeah fulfilling so i was um

watching i've been trying to do a few more dance classes, however. I saw that, the pineapple one. How was that? It was really good, actually. Really good. I'll definitely be back. But that's something so far out of my comfort zone. But I want to be one of those people that is always at, I follow a few people that are always at Pineapple doing stuff.

And I'm like, oh, I wish I could do that. I'm like, no, I can do that. I can sign up. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. I can do that. So I'm like trying to push myself out there. I'm like, I can get better at this by just pushing myself out there a bit more.

By just absolutely lying to yourself. Absolutely. I am the best dancer ever. Yeah. Ever. Yeah. Twinkle toes. You're like Maisie Mouse.

I am. Do you ever watch Maisie Mouse? Oh my god. Oh no, Angelina Ballerina. Angelina Ballerina. Angelina Ballerina. Oh, what an absolute slag. She was the best.

Do you know what I loved about her? It was her little tight little doo-doo. My mum, for World Book Week, dressed up as Angelina Ballerina in my school. No. Yeah, she did. But it was like a character crush. Did you ever have the Felicity Wishes? Oh, my God. But it was like a character question. Did you ever have the Felicity wishes?

Oh my God, why does that ring a bell? I remember they were like little dolls. Like, and they were like, there was a ballerina one. I used to get them in like a little satin bag. It's really... And it made me think of it when you said Angelina Ballerina. I had a Felicity wishes. That was childhood.

I'll tell you what I used to do. So Angelina Ballerina had a Felicity wishes that was childhood I tell you what I used to do so Angelina Ballerina yeah and my mum got me this little makeup thing of Angelina Ballerina's and there was this little like what's it called puff puff yeah little puff with all of this glitter covered in it anyway I used it a bit excessively and I grabbed this and I was like this is fucking brilliant yeah puff puff puff

whacked over my face I was I was literally there like this like shimmering in the light I was like anywhere I turn

I was taking girls out I was like woo woo I was like this I was like oh my god did you my mum was like woohoo! I was like this, I was like oh my god. Did you?

My mum was like, Kitty? I was like, what you got on your face? I was like woo! Don't you love it? Yeah, I was like living my best life. Did you ever have Lelly Kellys? The cutest shoes, oh yeah, absolutely I did. I did not have Lelly Kellys.

Oh, sadly. Yeah, it was really sad. So I remember gagging for Lelly Kellys. Like, literally being like, please, please, please let me have them. Because I wanted the makeup. Because, you know, you get the makeup with the shoes. And I remember my mum being like, no. And Lelly Kellys were the one with the little doll in the bottom, weren't they?

No. So they were a different type of shoes that they sold at Clarks. Because I remember, like my mum said, I'm not getting you Lelly Kellys. But I will get you the school appropriate shoes that have the little toy at the bottom I actually think I have those I don't think I have the Lelly Kellys the Lelly Kellys were quite garish yeah I don't think because they had like sequins and like butterflies on them no I didn't I didn't oh because I had to lie to you there no I had the same ones as you and clearly we've got very responsible mothers

that follow the Clarks rules they would not let us be seen out in the Lelly Kellys. No, because I had the Clark's ones as well with the little doll at the bottom. Yeah, I like the little doll. And then Lily got the doll as well. I preferred Lily's, so I hid it in the other one. So I had two and she was like, where's mine? And I lifted up my feet. I was like, she's imprisoned. I was like, you'll never get her back. And I remember Lily crying and I was like, he he he. I literally put them in my stinky little trotters, tied them away and I was like, I've got them both now.

See this just reminded me of a story which I don't know whether to tell you or crack on with my mantra. Fuck it I'll tell you. Oh no tell me, tell me! When I was, oh god I must have been quite young, maybe seven, maybe seven or eight. Yeah. Lily and I shared, my sister shared a room together and oh my gosh, it was like something from the iCarly rooms, the Hannah Montana rooms.

Oh! It was this big room that I think it felt like a dance studio vibe because it had mirrors all the way around and we lived our best lives. We honestly watched the Barbie movies in there, it we loved it absolutely anyway Lily um got a packet of sharpies uh for school because she was doing something something creative whatever and I and Lily was like coloring things in and I said oh well can I join in and she she said, no Kitty, because they're permanent. And I was like, I'm such an idiot.

I was like, these are permanent. Let me tell you. Anyway, so I get this, I get this Sharpie and start drawing on my face in black Sharpie. What do you draw? Because I'm queen of positivity. I drew a smiley face on my forehead. Brilliant! Boom, boom. Smiley face. Anyway, left it on there for hours. Hours it was there, Katie. My mum comes in, she's like, Kitty, what's on your forehead? And I'm just like, a smiley face. I was like, because I love life.

Can't you see how positive I am right now? Can't you see the positivity radiating from me? Can't you see I'm just a positive gal? She scrubs this, scrubs this, it doesn't come off. I go to school the next day in tears with this smiley face on my head. That's a bit ironic isn't it? Yeah it was absolutely brilliant. I was like Mum get it off, get it off and I was like good, good morning. I was like, happy up here? Sad down here. Yeah. I know. Yeah.

It was a hard moment. Anyway, Katie, let me swiftly move on. Mantra me. Mantra me. So my mantra this week is, I'm a bad bitch. No, no, say it. No, say it seriously.

Okay, so I'm a bad bitch. Yeah, you are. Yeah. No, say it seriously. Okay, so I'm a bad bitch. Yeah, you are. Yeah. Yeah, you fucking are. No, I chose this one because I think it's really interesting. Whenever I hear I'm a bad bitch, it's bad bitch. I feel empowered. Very empowering.

I feel so empowered. Yeah. Now, for the context of the word bitch. Yeah. I've searched up a definition. Oh. Yes. Because obviously it's got very negative connotations. Now, for the context of the word bitch, I've searched up a definition. Oh! Yes. Because obviously it's got very negative connotations.

It's a better monology. Absolutely. The word bitch is a very negative connotation. And I remember listening to Meghan Markle's podcast, Archetypes, where she talks about this and how words have been driven from a negative connotation. But now women have taken them on as something really empowering. Amazing. So the definition of someone who is bad-tempered and someone who is aggressive.

And I thought, how interesting that when we hear this word, we flipped it, that's something empowering to us. And I searched up the term what bad bitch meant. And bad bitch means a self-respected, strong female. Oh. Who has everything together. Claim it back. Body, mind, and swagger.

And I was like. And that's fucking you. Yeah. I thought that was really interesting. It is interesting, isn't it? Because I feel like, don't you ever find that most swear words are feminine? Yes. Well, the C word.

The C word. Which is supposed to be one of the worst, which I think, why? It's just a part of the body. Yeah. Whereas bollocks, dickheads, all of that kind of stuff is off the tongue, you know? Literally, when you think about it. And then also, bitch female dogs. Absolutely.

That misbehave. I didn't even realise a mare, because I'm always saying, oh, I'm having a mare, I'm having such a mare. I didn't even realise that's a female horse. Yeah, yeah. That's being bad-tempered. And I'm like, oh my God much so much negative vocabulary to describe things Does root back to a feminine it does think and it's really interesting It's so interesting and and when I was listening to me listening to these songs this week

I was on a run and the lizard came on its best bitch and I did feel faster. I did feel stronger I did more pumped for the party. I was like here we go, here we go and then I was like oh my god why, why do I feel this certain way towards this word that you know bad bitch. I'm like yeah she's a bad bitch, I'm a woman who's got a lot of power and I'm feeling it body, soul and swagger. And swagger. And it's so interesting that now bad bitch is defined as a self-respected woman yeah um whereas bitch is someone who's aggressive yeah um it's so interesting isn't it and and that word in particular because i thought it was quite interesting that it has changed with generations

and for example you once called your mum that bitch yes yes i remember this tell the story because it's quite interesting so it was felt really bad actually it was in a mother's day card and I'm always I love Lizzo yeah I have I went to go see Lizzo a few years ago and I have this um I have this like big t-shirt that has her on it and it says 100% that bitch I love that so i'm like oh you're just that bitch yeah and it was in my regular vocab so in my card to my mum to try and lift her up and boost her up to the amazing mummy she is i um i wrote in the card and i'm like love you so so much you really are that bitch you're the best and my mum mum was like, how dare you?

Why have you called me a bitch? And I'm like, no, no, no, no. There's been a miscommunication. She's literally like crying all over the stage. She's literally like, I can't believe that she called me a bitch. She's like, and you're like, no mum, you're that bitch.

I'm literally like, you're that bitch. But then now she's getting confused because sometimes I'll see her and I'm like, you got it, girl. And she's like, yeah, bitch. Yeah, yeah, too much. And I'm like, whoa. Take it back a notch. Whoa, whoa. But like, she was honestly like really offended for a good five minutes until she was like, I just don't understand why you say these things.

And I'm like, I'm not slacking you off in your mother's day, mum. It's like, but it's a good thing, mum. She's like, what? How could you spit at me like that? I think I'm like, I'm not slacking you off in your mother's day card. It's like, but it's a good thing, mum. She's like, what? How could you spit at me like that? I think I'm a bitch. I'm like, no, I think you're that bitch. Yeah. If one of our male friends said, oh, she's a bad bitch. Oh yeah, she's a bad bitch. But then that's a bit, I don't think... But then I cringe. Then I get the ick.

I'd be like, oh, why are you calling me that? Like, stop that now. I know. I thoroughly enjoyed that lesson there. I know, I know. I'd be like, oh, why are you following me with that? Like, what? What happened? Like, stop that now. What happened? I know. I thoroughly enjoyed that lesson there. I know, I know. I feel very fun. And I feel like if you want to hear more about the kind of terms to describe women and how

they've been redefined, listen to Meghan Markle's Archetypes. It's really good. Really, really good. Gorgeous. Right, let's put those books away Katie my glasses are off yeah my tea is piping hot here we go here we are crikey O'Reilly what a weekend we had what a weekend we had archie's 21st archie friend of the podcast oh my god wasn't it brilliant wasn't it fabulous and i feel like

you know when you've been looking forward to an event for so long like we were there i distinctly remember in the kitchen in November when he sent his invites out yes and it was for June June so this has been something we've been talking about for for a long time absolutely so I was just so it felt like a wedding I was so excited getting on the train yeah the sun was shining oh it was gorgeous we had such good weather didn't we? We did. Yeah, you looked sensational my little Tinkerbell. As did you little grommet. Katie was wearing a blue. I was wearing a baby pink. So we were quite the match together. And all the boys were in black tights. Oh my god, tie me down. So handsome. in black tights. Oh my God, tie me down. Oh, Archie was phenomenal.

Oh my God. All the boys looked really, really good. Yeah, everyone was so excited. You know, there was a gorgeous jazz band. Oh God, it was great, wasn't it? Everyone was dressed up. And it was great because we had such different areas of life. Archie's old school friends. Yeah our friends from London

My friends from school and then my parents were there and my sister was there and it felt so nice to have my family there Yeah, it's really really sweet. And and anyway, all the celebrations are going on one of my friends literally turns around She's like, oh god, we're having such a good time. It's so such a nice party. She's like How old is Archie? a nice party. She's like, how old is Archie? I'm like, Archie's 21st birthday. 25th. 30? I'm not sure. I would be able to tell you. I was fucking howling. It was so good. I thought one thing we can't neglect is the fact that we were meeting our friends to get the train the night before. Oh god God. Oh, God. And we very nearly missed that train because Kitty and I were getting our trotters painted. Classic us. We were literally sat there.

We were shitting ourselves. We were shitting ourselves because we... Getting the skin hacked off our feet. We were literally getting these pedicures. We were like, how lovely is this? And then I look at the time. We were meant to... The train was at five and it's like 3.50.

And we're about 45 minutes from Paddington. So I'm like, okay. Then I just finished getting my calves slapped about by the man. Should I give you a proper massage? He's about to start slapping up yours, and then I get a call from Archie being like, are you on your way? The best thing is, Archie knows in these situations to just not call me because I will not pick up. I will not, I will not, because I'll get stressed.

So he was like, are you guys on your way? And I'm like, the little nail files go, and I'm like, hey, yeah, like we're so on our way. We're literally gonna leave in like five minutes. We then finish, it's also boiling, guys. So hot. And sweltering. So I'm like, I need to get changed. Yeah. So we go back, get changed, go get our bags. I look at the time. It's quarter past four and I'm thinking, oh, a bit tight. We then get to the tube. No train to go into Edgware Road. Shitting myself. At this point, I had to whip around to Katie. I was like one of

those owls, 360 spin. I was like one of those owls 360 spin. I was like, Katie, if we miss the train, we never got pedicured. We never admitted it. We never admitted it. Katie's like, go in.

Receive. She's like, I'm in it. I'm in. Yeah. But we were literally like, we got there with about five minutes to spare.

I know. And then they were like, I can't believe we're getting pedicures. I'm like, we're here, aren't we? Yeah, look, I'm here. I'm on the train. We're here. We knew we were going to make it. I know. And then they were like, I can't believe we're getting pedicures. I'm like, we're here aren't we? Yeah look, I'm here, I'm on the train. We're here. We knew we were gonna make it. I'm ready. Girls getting ready together is just elite. Isn't it just fabulous?

Katie and I had the tunes on, we were loving life, gossiping, it was just so, we we got ready in Archie's room and Archie was very gracious to let us have his room so we were just doing the hair, doing the make up but oh my god it was so funny. So I'd already planned out to do my hair in a certain way and then it just wasn't going the way I wanted it to. That's crisis. Then I start panicking because it's not working so I'm like Katie can I use your colour? She said yeah absolutely just after I finished and I'm like yeah of course. So I sit there like a fucking whore. I iron her up like this. Hair's looking really nice. Yeah, I was like, your hair looks gorgeous, Katie. Anytime you'd finish, you'd slightly look to me.

I was like, are you ready? Yeah, yeah. You ready? How is the tone? Yeah, how is the tone? How we doing? How we doing? Even Archie came in and he was like, how are you feeling?

I was like, I'm very stressed out, Trina, because I haven't done my hair. And then Archie's like, why don't you start your makeup? And you're like, no. I was like, no, absolutely not. Because we have to do it together. Because I think it's one of those things, I don't know about, like, why don't you start your makeup? And you're like, no. I was like, no, absolutely not. Because we have to do it together. Because I think it's one of those things, I don't know about like girlies, what do we think? Because do you do hair first, do you do makeup,

or do you makeup then hair? It's got to be hair then makeup. I do hair then makeup. Sure. Because especially if I'm curling it, it gives it a chance to like drop a bit. And in such hot weather. Yeah.

Your makeup will melt off. Yeah. I love being a woman. Honestly, Katie and I were having the best time getting ready. Honestly. And then a few people arrived early, so we had like a minor panic. We were like, oh my God, oh my God. But then we started getting down.

But I don't know about you. I just drank cocktails the whole night. I had Pimms and Moscow Mules the whole night. I was slaughtered. I was absolutely slaughtered. You were slaughtered. I was slaughtered. I was absolutely slaughtered. You were slaughtered. Those Moscow mules were the best things in the world. Absolutely. Wow. I drank quite a few of those. Then they all ran out. Then there was loads of Prosecco and wine available but that I got drunk as well. Yeah. So then what did I have? A beer. A beer a beer Katie had a beer I had two

beers yeah she was trying to she was trying to show off weren't you Katie yeah I was like I'm not like other girls sorry sorry I'm like hey boys yeah I was like hey look at me hey I'm so alternative because I was literally like I don't want to stop drinking because I was so I was in such a good sweet spot at that point that i was like this can't you can't stop these good times can't stop yeah so but then all that was left with a beer so i'm like fuck it i guess that's what we'll be doing yeah and then i actually his mum was like there's more alcohol in the house you don't have to drink the beers i was like you legend you're like thank god for you because i need you right now i remember archie had a bottle of vodka started passing it around

we're all just swinging from the bottle of vodka because you did that i did it no at the gym so i was getting so drunk i kept smacking his ass i honestly just kept like touching his bum it was like which and then you had your performance oh my god how sensational the super trooper performance i mean it was fucking hilarious me and archie's two sisters and oh my gosh It was so funny. So they pull me to the side Archie's mum's just done a lovely speech. It was such a great speech. So funny, so wholesome And then the girls are like, come on, let's go get changed. So we have the full outfits We have the bandanas, the tight little outfits. We've got the belts, we've got the microphones, we've got it all. Anyway, we've got the big boots, big heels, platform boots, Dolly Parton boots.

So we get changed anyway. There was this kind of like curtain that we're pulling aside to like get ready to reveal our outfits and start singing. We're trying to plug this, the music into the speaker, but like, oh, and the speaker's not working. We tested it out earlier, so it was's absolutely fine but it's not working now anyway we're all slaughtered the river's slaughtered the archie sisters are like full-on arguing they're literally like no it's not fitting in yet right let me do it no let me oh this is how we do it yeah and i'm like literally start there i'm like guys we've got to start i've got a mom and they're like no come, we've got to start soon. I was like, oh, I've got to start soon. I've got to bomb. And they're like, no, come on. We've got to do it. We've got to do this.

We've got to do this. I literally just opened the curtain. I'm like, no. And it's like, it's like this. No, we can't do this. Oh, come on. Just plug it in. Super, super, that's it.

I was literally like, do you know what? I've got this. I was so gone at that point. I thought, I just need to start singing. It was so much fun, though. It was amazing. We had a little outfit. And at that point. I thought, I just need to start singing. It was so much fun though. It was amazing. We had a little outfit. And at that point, we were so slaughtered.

We felt like we were on top. Oh, you were on top. And the thing that really made me quite sad was in the morning, one of Archie's sisters wasn't there. Yes. And you needed to block it out a bit. Yes. So I had the luxury of getting to learn the routine and fill in the space.

And I've never had more FOMO in my life watching you guys do it. I was sat in the back like, and I'm like, jazz square, shimmy, shimmy, jazz square,

jazz ride, kick. Honestly, I was loving the kick line. I was like, kick line was great. It was absolutely great. I had so much fun doing it,

so I can't imagine how much fun it would have been with the audience. It was so good. I honestly felt like it was my debut into society. I was like in the platform. Diamond of the season. I was the diamond of the season. You were the diamond of the season. Controversial opinion. Go on.

I'm not here endorsing smoking on the pod. Yeah. Terrible habit. Yeah. However I find it quite sexy to see a man smoking a cigarette. I think, I tell you quite sexy to see a man smoking a cigarette. I think, I tell you what it is, I'll tell you exactly what it is. Tell me. Is when they have it in their mouth.

Oh don't, don't they light it? And they're just lighting it. No, no, not in the hand, they're literally in their mouth. I'll tell you what gets me going is when they've rolled it themselves. I mean, come on, that's magic fingers there. If you can roll your own cigarette, you can do a good finger as well. And they roll it and then they put it behind their ear because they're having a conversation or something. I'm like, oh, I love it.

I find that. But then when they actually start doing it, I'm blowing it in my face. I'm like, do you know what? You can leave that. Right, so the actual cigarette smoke, I don't like the smell of it. But if someone's been smoking and can smell cigarettes on them, I find that really hot. Oh. So if you got with someone and you kissed them and you could taste cigarettes, you'd be like, hmm.

Oh, really? It wouldn't put me off. I wouldn't be running away. No. I'd be running towards. You were getting quite a few flirts on Katie. So Katie looked hot shit and we all knew she looked hot shit but I think quite a few people thought she looked hot shit as well. It was, do you know what? My ego got stroked. Yes. And that was, that was the aim. That was the the aim my aim was my ego to get a bit boosted feeling good feeling fabulous to get a flirt on which you did and i did and i was like oh my god this is so much fun yeah how did you feel in the face of adversity with flirto do you know what the

exposure therapy i actually i managed yeah i managed really well yeah i think i did i think now what i need to focus on is transferring the flirt into... sealing the deal. I love it. What was your match for this week though? If I can envision it, it is fucking achievable. Absolutely. So, literally, I need to figure out how to kind of like segue.

Now I just need to figure out... How do I get you alone? Oh my god, that is a good song. What is that? They did it on Glee. How do I get you alone? So you achieved that. I achieved that.

I had a really, really good flirt. I think you had a really good flirt when you were in the kitchen. I remember turning around and being like, oh my god, Kato. Did you? Did you? Because I thought I was greasing the wheels but then i was like i already talked to that boy previously yeah and then he was like i think she's attractive and i was like oh my god amazing lovely guy though he was really really nice good personality i really like i genuinely that is your type like personality wise personality wise he was brilliant i think the i wish i'd spoken to him earlier on because i feel

like that was a good potential yeah because i feel like at these kind of situations once you get your person you get your person so it's like i got with you earlier in the night so i'm gonna get with you throughout i think i think that's something that i'm gonna try and like focus on for yours is just finding someone because i spent which i had so much fun spending time with the girl i'm such a girl's girl i'm like girls girls girls like let's all have a chit chat and like catch up and blah but i spent the most of the night until we went into the disco the disco the disco tech but i i didn't really mingle with any other guys until we hit the disco yeah yeah um well to be fair i didn't see Arch a lot. Like, I genuinely didn't.

No, no. I was trying to be really social and stuff, and obviously all of Arch's friends were there from school. Yeah. And then from all other walks of life. So I was trying to make my rounds and be polite and talk to everyone. And by the way, oh my God, huge credit to Arch.

His friends are just lovely. Oh, gorgeous. Everyone's so nice. Lovely people, yeah. And then I wanted to spend a bit of time with his family. So, you know, his mum and Dan, sisters and stuff. And then my own family and then my school friends. Yeah, yeah.

So I was trying to navigate all of that. And then it literally got to like halfway through the night. And I was like, oh my God, I literally haven't seen Arch. Literally. And then I remember we got on the dance floor. And at that point he was absolutely slaughtered because he tried to pull open my super trooper thing. I was like, this is nothing. My boobs will be flailing. But then we got a cheeky get there and I was like, I'm very proud of you. You look gorgeous tonight. But no, I didn't get to see him much anyway.

Genuinely? I didn't get to see him. And then he passed out about two o'clock. It was hilarious. He was banging around about this party for months. And then we're up until we're doing karaoke until like five in the morning. Yeah. Archie's in bed. He's about to sleep. The amount of photos everyone has with Archie passed out.

Poor Archie really got taken advantage of against his will because everyone's got a photo spooning him like in his room at different points in the night whilst he's asleep. And he's like did that happen yeah absolute state of me the next day katie was a disaster the problem is is that it got to about half five i was like i'm gonna try and snooze yeah so i situate myself on a sofa get me head down yeah let's can go to bed. Yeah. Then all of a sudden, there were a group of guys who I was chatting to throughout the night, very, very lovely boys,

but they were there to stay up all night. And I'm like, respectfully, this is a common area. If you want to take it, take it outside. And while they're talking, I can feel the room spinning, and I'm like, I'm going to vom. So I do the right thing, because that's the only thing, was that he heard me vom oh the guy that you were chatting to earlier oh my god no way fuck off oh my god that's classic you're like oh because i was like oh

because i vomited he was like you're all right i think he was like that sounded like something else i was like oh and then i'm feeling fresh as a daisy yeah so i am feeling fabulous then they were all like oh actually there's a group of us up in the top like in a tent outside just chit-chatting so i thought you know a bit of fresh air will do me some good sun's up at this point then i just realized i'm like sober sobering up i was really drunk still still kind of like half cut sat on this thing were you still in your dress as well no I changed it oh okay good I changed it to my

my moose pajamas yeah everyone got to see them I loved them and then we're all sat chit chatting and then you know when you're like I've had enough of this man

everyone's having a lovely conversation I literally just go I'm going for a wee and then I never came back nah nah that's a classic Katie line yeah I was like

oh I'm gonna just go for a wee and they're like oh okay never came back tried to tried to sleep woke up again feeling hungover but not terrible and then i was in the kitchen like sleeping in the kitchen um and then people coming in making bacon butties which was so nice actually like they were needed oh yeah so i felt fine then everyone started waking up. I'm feeling even better. I'm drinking loads of water.

I'm like, oh, my God, isn't life great? Aren't we so grateful to be alive? And then all of a sudden it just hit me and I vomed again. You know, you start sweating. Yes, yeah, yeah. And I'm like, oh, my God. It got to the point where I was literally like, I think we were all sat chatting in a group.

I just got up like, and i just didn't say anything vommed again then felt better after that and then we had some toast yeah but i felt so bad because your parents everyone cleared off and then your parents came over and we'll start their chatting i'm literally like i know my mum was like oh my god look at Kayden I was like I don't know so this is where she gets like love I was like oh god

I did manage to rally I tell you what no I'm so sorry I know I just interrupted oh no but I tell you what was fucking hilarious what

is the amount of people that came up to us at the party oh my god saying they'd listened to the podcast now guys I don't know what was more scary

the ones that said they had listened or the ones that hadn't one of Archie's friends at school was like yeah I listened to a podcast and blah guys, I don't know what was more scary, the ones that said they had listened or the ones that hadn't. One of Archie's friends at school was like, yeah, I listened to a podcast and blah, blah, blah. I was like, oh, I said, oh, that means so much to us and blah, blah. And they were like, is that Katie and I? Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop. Oh yeah, that's Katie. I'll tell you my highlight of the night was seeing my dad get into my super trooper outfit. So Archie's dad, seeing my dad get into my super trooper outfit. So Archie's dad, iconic, had put on one of Archie's sister's outfits.

And then I saw my dad and he was like, oh, I was like, come on, you've got to put mine on. So then I saw him squeeze into it and he was like, ah, he got it on. And he was like, okay, I'm so embarrassed. I was like, just fine, just fine, Archie's dad, you'll be fine and you can be embarrassed together. Then all of a sudden, the embarrassment went because he goes on to the dance floor and starts

him and Arch the dance floor twerking like this. All the boys gather around. I was like, it's literally like, don't make me sing, please don't make me sing, please no. That's my dad. I was loving it. It was the way I saw him, he came up arms wide coming in and I was like loving it it was the way I saw him like he came up arms wide coming in and I was like what the fuck is going on

I was like this night has just got even better it's just got because I saw I saw Archie's dad come out and I was like legend

legend and then I turn around and I see a glimpse of pink and I'm like and I'm like seeing those men in nylon Papa McNeil yeah

they stole the show cut in, yeah. They stole the show. Cutting some shapes. Absolutely, they stole the show. Tell you what else was really interesting, was when two worlds collide. So I have my school friends that were there that I've just met many times, so, you know, all really close to them.

And then the London lot. And when one of the London lot was trying to chirps one of my school friends that was highly interesting seeing someone who I'm very close to try to chat up someone who I am also very close to yeah was hilarious it's interesting it's so interesting. Yeah. It is. It's like a weird when worlds collide.

Yeah, when worlds collide. It's hard when you know both people very well that you're like, what's going on? But also it's really weird when like, you know their characters

individually. Yeah. So I'm like, oh, I know what your type is. I know what your type is. And then people just fucking get together and I'm like,

what the fuck? What the fuck? I love when people, I love the drama. I love it. Oh- I love the drama. I love it. Oh I love the drama. I love it. Ics. I've only got one this week. How many do you have? Two.

Okay, so that means you go first. Yeah. Yeah, love it. So my ick, I did one- the first one I did myself. Yesterday. Yeah. I was walking down the street. Yeah.

And there was a group of three girls taking up the pavement. And I start walking. Did they not know you from the debrief? They didn't. They didn't clear the path. One of the girls goes to move, like to move. And then I go to move, but we move in the same way. And then she goes to move again.

And then we're moving in the same direction. So we're doing this weird kind of dance. And then she's like, oh, this is awkward. She said that? And I was like, and then I just start pissing myself. And then she just kind of like stops and then walks around me because I literally was like. That's embarrassing. My mind couldn't, I'm like, where are you going?

Oh, my God. Where are you going? What are you doing? But she was like, okay, okay, okay. And then I felt like I'm blocking her. I'm like, no. I'm actually not trying to attack you. I'm not trying to like square up to you right now I just I just want to get to the pub I'm so confused honestly oh my god that that has happened so much honestly it was too

much yeah but yeah so this my ick has happened to everyone everyone can say yeah that's happened to me yeah it's when you're in public so you might be on the tube or wherever, coffee shop, and you go on your phone. Now, usually it would be TikTok or Instagram for this. And a reel comes up fucking loud or a video comes up and you frantically are turning it down. You're like this, like looking around, you're like this. And you don't know what it is and you come on the bottom and you're like this and you're like, and you're like looking around and you're like sh what it is, and you come on the bottom, and you're like this, and you're like, and you're like looking around,

and you're like shitting yourself. It happened to me the other day. I was actually sat there, the quiet bit of the cafe that we go to, the upstairs, and I was sat there. Everyone jumped, I mean, the jumping was excessive. I thought, you don't need to fucking jump. But everyone's like, I'm like, oh, you're annoying me now. So I was highly embarrassed,

because I was like, I was actually like, felt like a gamer, I was like, quick, quick, quick. I was looking around. It's just humiliating that. That is humiliating. Ready? Love it. That was really good. That was good.

The other one happened when I was at the pub yesterday. I'm not a drinker. Sorry, sorry. I'm just a bit of a socialite, guys. The guy on the table next to me burped horrifically loudly. And it was genuinely- That is revolting. And then the worst thing is- He was like,

it was like, bleh. That's disgusting. And then the worst thing is, is that his friends look over and they're like, what the fuck, mate? And then he's like, oh. He was with a group of guys,

so I feel like the culture's a bit different, but you wouldn't catch me belching. Oh, bel even the word belt makes me feel sick it was a proper like it was guttural but it was did no one laugh they were like and then he was like and i'm like you're not funny do you think you're funny oh i'm not funny oh i tell you what's awful is when someone burps and you can smell it and you're like, that alcohol, you're like, that is repulsive. Right, let's go on to questions. Questions! Hit me, Katie, with the serious.

I have the serious and I'm excited. Oh, shit. What would you do? Oh, God, what? If you found out that your partner has cheated on you early on in the relationship? But, for example, like now, you're two years in with Arch. If you find out he kissed someone else within the first month of you guys seeing each other, but you find this out now, later down the line.

Okay, let me digest this. as always katie it's more complicated than just the question absolutely do i know this girl let's say no okay that makes it easier that makes it a lot easier for just for the reasoning that if he got with her and then we see her all the time like she's in our friendship group. Oh, no, no. Then that'd be like, are you fucking joking me? Like that'd really piss me off. Yeah. So, okay.

Was it just a kiss? I'm going to go with shagged. And we were official? We were boyfriend and girlfriend? Yeah. No, it's the end. It's the end. If Arer told me

or i thought how do i find out he tells me he tells because he's like no i'm off i'm on hit the road jack don't you look back i've got my fucking dv rucksack on i've got my tram jack and i'm making my own fucking meals what would you do if it was more like um where if you're like years and years and years down the line imagine if you're married you've got little kiddies and he's like oh actually at the beginning of our relationship i did shag someone else let's say let's say like a ross and rachel kind of thing where you have a big argument in the first month of your relationship yeah this is your first argument yeah you're still together he shags someone else

you're not on a break or anything but he shags someone else and it makes it worse that he kept that from me the whole time that's what sits with me is that they cheated, scumbag sat on it for years they sat on it, fucking scumbag

not a chance not a chance if I had a boyfriend. I don't know how it wouldn't eat you alive. Not a chance. Like if you, if I had a boyfriend and I cheated on him, Yeah. I could not then carry on seeing him

without telling him. Not a chance. Imagine. No, no, no, no. The guilt would eat you up. It would. You'd be like worms. You'd just be itchy

the whole time. Nom, nom, nom. Nom, nom, nom. If it was like a month in and we were dating and we weren't exclusive or anything like that and he got with someone and shagged someone i'd be like yeah yeah but i was probably texting

someone else as well fine i'd be able to sit on that yeah i'd be able to be like fine if he if we were official if we were boyfriend and girlfriend and he fucked someone else sat on it for two years did not tell me springs it out of no, nah, I'm off. I'm off. I'm sorry, I'm off. What would you do if, oh, here's one.

Yeah. What would you do if you shagged someone then that day asked you to be his girlfriend? So he shagged, so you're technically not together when he shags this person. He asked you to be his girlfriend that day on your anniversary. You're celebrating your anniversary.

He's like, I can't believe we're together. But then he comes out saying, I've shagged someone else very early on. And you go, oh, when? And he's like, the 5th. And you're like, as in our anniversary, the 5th. And he's like yeah now we can take this in a toxic way and be like no one fucking

compares to me you would shag someone else and he still fucking wanted money or we can take this as absolutely fucking up that's disrespectful and he sat on that I think I probably would take it as being very disrespectful I'm not being funny you've just doggied someone and then you

come over to me and you're like be my girlfriend no absolutely not no no no now this is hard because i'm coming from a place of i trust arch so much so i know this would never happen yeah i'm also coming from a place of like you said earlier um where i'm not married and i don't have kids yeah so i can imagine if you're in a situation like that it's so different because you're in a different ballpark you've got different priorities and you've got a huge responsibility it's almost like you're in a different that part of early dating is a different phase of your life almost yeah because if you're married with kids it's like well you kind of do like okay well that was us then this is us now yeah it must be so difficult because i've heard stories of this happening where

it's like 10 years into a relationship and it gets revealed that um they cheated yes very early on and you're like well i've spent 10 years with you now and i love you so much and it's clear that we love each other and it kind of meant nothing to you and it hasn't happened since and I mean a marriage is a huge thing something definitely not to be taken lightly so I feel like if there's marriage there there's kids there there's love there and it was something that you know there is that kind of okay well you know yeah but I'm coming from a place of 20 years old of age no yeah no strength you've got nothing tying you down nothing tying me down yeah and if someone cheats on me I'd be out I'd be coming from a place of 20 years old of age no yeah no strength you've got nothing tied i've got nothing tying me down yeah and if someone cheats on me i'd be out i'd be absolutely gone you know

um what do you think would you be able to sit with her i think it's really hard coming from a single place so you're single at the moment how would that be for you i think if it was in the situation like you said now the problem is I think it's so much easier said than done to be like I'd cut it off because if you've had if I was with someone for two three years and was so happy and I'm literally like there's nothing I could fault and then he comes out with that I'd literally be heartbroken because I feel like the right the self-respect yeah the self-respecting thing to do would be to end it. However, it's like...

When you're far, it's like your head's there and... Like, if he hasn't done it since, and it... But it is... I would feel really upset with myself if I let it happen, because I think the easiest thing to do is to be like, look, we can work through it, because I'm sure you're the right one however if they were sure you were the right one they wouldn't have cheated so early on so early on the thing but the kind of thing for me it's almost no because cheating

is the bad thing here it's almost not the true to Sittin on the line Two years and that's the red was so comfortable keeping Something so big from me for two years when we were taught to like every relationship you talk about cheating Have you ever cheated now? I haven't cheated of you know all my friends cheese. Oh my god Have you heard such and such as cheating or such that that's so bad You've been through all of this together and you know in the back of your head that you you're not telling me that's what yeah yeah yeah it's poor form right silly question okay so as we know love island is in the swing of things absolutely

now for non-love island watchers, when people come on Love Island they have an intro. Oh my god I'm ready, I'm ready. So they introduce yourself, they usually say their name, their age, something about their looks, personality, why they've come on Love Island and something shocking about themselves. Okay. So now Katie, I'm ready. Katie you have to name, age, something about your looks, something about your personality, why you've come on Love Island, and something shocking about you.

Tell me, tell me, tell me. Hi, my name's Katie. I'm a performer from London. You could say I love to entertain. Oh my God, did I just say that? That's so embarrassing. You could say I'm unlucky in love. I guess I've had to kiss a few frogs, but I'm still looking for my prince.

I'm hoping to go into the villa and find what I've been looking for. Be swept off my feet. I love a gentleman and I don't want a player. I guess what's kind of shocking about myself is I'm actually qualified to dispense medication. Call me Dr. Love. You know I love that when you say you're the persona. Some may say. Some may say. Katie, I love it now are you off I'm a shittier I personally didn't do anything

hi I'm Kitty a 20 year old fun loving goofball something shocking about me something shocking about me. Something shocking about me. People think my tits are fake, but they're not.

They're just perfect. They're perfect the way they are. I'm going into the villa to find someone who can laugh me into bed. Yeah, yeah. I don't want any of these players or fuckboys. I'm all about having fun. What the fuck do you think? It's so funny. Literally, the back of my knees are sweating.

Okay. Some say don't hate the player, hate the game, but I'm the game itself. I'm like a puzzle, you really have to work me out. I'm like a puzzle. I'm like a puzzle. Everyone's like, crickets. Fuck me, that was brilliant. Did you like that question? I fucking loved that.

I love that question. I think your intro would be better than mine. I think I'd just be like, I'm gluten free. Don't feed me crumpets. Yeah, no crumpets. Right, guys. Guys. That's brought us to the end.

That's brought us to the end that's brought us to the end what would your love island VTV email us no no no send us voice notes oh my god please send us

a voice note they'll be much better than mine possibly not as good as Katie's probably not probably not probably not

but definitely better than mine I'm a puzzle what the fuck is that I'm a bit of a goofball I'm a bit of oh my god right guys love you so much I'm a puzzle. What the fuck is that? I'm a bit of a goofball. Oh my God.

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