The Debrief - Working 9 to 5 | The Debrief Podcast

Episode Date: September 8, 2025

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I've got a rebel soul I've got a rebel soul Welcome to the tea brief With your co-host Kissing it now And your co-host Casey Leach Another day, another dollar Oh, you know it Back in the room

That's my life Heaten up Just always grinding Yeah Always working Always dry humping Guys, it's like bring back dry-humping, a little bit of a bump and grind. Did sex ever really confuse you when you're a little?

I was like, I'm so confused. I saw people just hugged naked. Yeah, I'm like, I'm so confused. It's like, what's going on? I didn't know what... I remember my friend's dad, like, was making a joke about something and said G-spot. And I was like, what's that? And then he laughed, but, like, awkwardly because he was like,

shit, I'm going to have to explain this now. Because I was like, I don't know what that is. I don't understand, sir. I literally don't even. even think I knew how sex worked until I lost my virginity. Yeah, I think I'm an active learner. I always have been. I learn on the job.

Yeah, I learn on the job. Yeah. I think I have to do. Yeah, learn by doing. Absolutely. And then I'm like, master. I don't know about you, but do you remember the first time you ever felt down there and you're thinking, oh my God.

It goes on forever. Yeah. I remember the first time I got my first pub. And I was like, wow. Like, I'm a woman, more than a woman. I used to be really excited to get my period. Were you? Yeah, I was really scared.

I was really scared. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The crimson wave. Yeah, I was so scared. Yeah. Actually, I'm due. Are you? It's funny you say that.

I had weird cramps yesterday, but I only had my period two weeks ago, so it can't be soon. Can't be it. Can't be yet. Not yet, my friend. It's Jason you all, though? Not yet. Should we do mantras? Yes.

Sima mantra for this week is I choose progress over perfection. Bang, bang, bang, bang. This is me as Queen Liberty. Yeah. Stoic, strong. A queen, a presence. Yeah.

An honour. Nailed it. Absolutely nailed it. I thought, everyone focuses too much. I've got to do this. And this specifically, for me, this wants to do with the gym. I was like, sometimes you're like, oh my God, there's nothing more, less that I want to do it in this life. It's horrible.

I can go to the gym right now. Yeah. But it was like, bit by bit. Progress. Progress, progress, progress. Because, you know, sometimes I think, well, I can't be honest, because it's not exactly like, I'll get the booty overnight. It's not about overnight. These things take time. It's not about, what's it? It's not delayed gratification. Immediately gratification. Yeah. It's about delayed. Okay. These things take time. Takes time. And then that's what's going to be worth it. It's like, going to turn around one day and the bunder's going to be like, it's going to be huge. And you're going to be like, you were literally the sexist woman alive. And I'll be like, you don't have to tell me twice. I know. I've been aware. Like, I've been here.

Where have you been? I've been here. Yeah. People are. Well, yeah. People have said it. Sorry. Sorry about that.

What's your mantra? My mantra is your laugh. I choose to remain optimistic. I love that. I love that. I think. That is so funny. That is so funny.

I'm not feeling. I think I'm optimistic. Because, guys, can we bring, like, not that pettiness ever went anywhere. Could we bring it back? Could we let it? I love a little touch of Betty.

Could, because I am literally... I swear to God the text I sent to you, I beam with laughter. I literally, I literally, it's my favourite. I just said to me going to say, who are you texting? I was sat there with the Tresia car. Absolutely.

Yeah, I had a hangar in my mouth. And I was just giggling away. I was that one to taxicating. I thought, what are you saying? You look evil. I was like, no. No. Just real.

Just being honest. Just keeping it real, to be honest. So I'm choosing to remain optimistic because I feel like we have things coming up and I need to not be a bitch. You could easily be negative. I just need to be pessimistic. Yeah. So I'm choosing to not to remain optimistic. and not be a raging bitch.

Oh, I love that. And I'm very proud of you. Thumbs up. Glazed smile. And do you remember the quote my mother used to say, you've got nothing nice to say, saying nothing at all. There you go.

And you'll be silent all night. Okay, so my song for this week is a classic. Oh my God, Archie is so cute. I was running off. My song for this week is all too well by Taylor Swearehouse. And it's to do with kind of like, of the episode but just like

a journey. How does it start? It's like, I actually don't know how it starts. Oh, it's so good. Because all I know, maybe we got last in translation. Maybe I asked more too much. And maybe the same was a masterpiece

for you tore it all up. It's such a good song. And when you get the 10 minute version one, insane. You're so right. That is the best bet. Because maybe I got lost in Oh, it's fantastic.

Oh, it is, they say that all's well, the ends well, but I'm in a new hell and every time. Oh, it's so good. Oh, she's so good. It's so good. I need to listen to that. She's so good. I need to listen to that. Yeah.

Tell me your song. My song is called I think I like you better by Renee Rapp. Oh. And it's, I think I like you better when you're across the fucking country. I haven't heard this can't say it's a banger I know I haven't heard of this one sounds an all too bit relevant as well I think I like you better when you're thousands of miles away bye bye see ya avidazen oh my god it just reminded me of doing that with my wrist

so last night archie and I just playfited a bit too much Yeah. I thought so we would, so it was just winding me up. Anyway, you know when you jab them in the sides, you get them in the ribs? And it's like, anyway, I did that. Got my wrist so hard. I thought it broke. So I'm like, oh, she's broken. I fell off the bed. Like I fully fell off. Like, like, I went on my hip. I was like, and then my wrist. And I was like, hold my wrist. And I was like, ow. Now, she's like, oh, my God. I was like, yes. When the whole time he had been like, Kit, just stop now because it will get taken too far. I said, are you a pussy? You're a pussy, aren't you? Yeah. You're a pussy, you can't take me on. You're not to take me up. No, Kit, you'll get hurt.

You're a pussy, you're a pussy. You're a pussy. It's like, aren't you disgusting now? How dare you let her get a star? How dare you? How dare you let it get out of hand arch? And he was like, I can't believe you're playful. Okay, so you've just got to keep me in a child live.

You've got to keep me in a child. Anyway, I thought my wrist broke, so I had to have, like, an ice pack in bed, like, all night. And then I was... An ice pack? That's how it was. Then I woke up this morning. Kind of hoping it would be bruised.

Kind of. Not even a... Not even a little quiver. Not even a quiver. Livid. Rackers? Yeah. Right, from our Racker.

Reconendation. Yes, sweet. Katie, take it away. Guys, if you're up north, I've... Oh, my. I was up north. She was.

She was. And there's a bakery called Florey. Florey. Right. How'd you spell this? F-L-O-R-I. Florey. Flore.

It's on Bishy Road. S-L-O-R-I. Yeah. Bishy. What a cute Bishy. Well, it's Bishop Thorpe. Everyone, all locals call it Bishy. Bishop Thorpe Road.

It is. It's very like they make these insane pastries. Every morning and every day it's. different. What did you get when you were there? I got... Oh, nice. I got... This is 45 Bishay. Bishy Road for the non-Northerners, Bishop Thorpe. In York. They recently... This looks lovely. They do the best, the best. We've got an Insta. I'm a follower. You're a follower. I'm a follower. I'm a follower. Absolutely. I always look every day to see how they're

rhubarb crops going. Oh, stop it. And they make fresh rhubarb and custard like Danish tarts. Stop it. You make me hungry. They do. I got a chocolate almond pan of chocolate. Yeah. Big time. And then I went in the second day and they had, it was, it was one of those things that I knew my parents wouldn't like it if I left it for waste. But I couldn't finish it, but it was huge. It was like this vanilla cream like bun. Like it looked in the big shape of like, and it was like a knot, like a big knot. Oh, yummy, yummy. And then it had hazelnut cream tied in there as well. Stop it. That sounds sexy.

And I was like, behave. That is behave worth it. And I was like, oh, and then I just got a pan of shock instead. Because I was like, I can't, I don't think I could finish that in one going. I don't want to bring it back with me. That sounds amazing, though, if I'm honest. It looked incredible. And I regretted it massively.

Yeah. When someone ordered it and they were tucking into it, I thought I should have gone. Is there's not. I think no one talks about the crime. of all of misordering yeah oh he's really painful actually and some dickhead is sat across you with what you wanted but you went for something else because you were going to be edgy yeah never be edgy never be edgy trust the gut yeah because i was like i should have got that so angry right now and the queue was so long that i was like well do you know what he's even more angry is when everyone's arising

oh oh that looks nice oh and then you look at like oh katie okay it's happened a lot in my life i can tell you That's a fray. Katie, what's that? Yes. And you're so angry because you wanted others to look at your dish and go, ooh. Wow. But they haven't. Well, they haven't.

Because I decided, because I was feeling skinny, to get the fucking C-Breme. No one's loving my C-Bream. Everyone's looking at the big juicy steak that I wanted to get, but I thought, no, I'll get the C-Brain. Livered. Livered. Ready to debrief?

Yeah. Stebre. This week, we are talking about the job diaries as it's September. And in Katie and My's opinion, we think September is the start of the year. It feels like the new year today. Call is a fall. Never. But we think we're revolutionary, okay? Yeah. Now, always feels like the start of the year because it's the start of school term, isn't it?

It does. It really does. We've been out of school how long and I still feel like it's the start of the year. Honestly, I'm my school's going back in next week. I'm so nervous. Yeah. As well as new graduates from uni entering the world and finding their new job. Usually they graduate in like May and they take the summer off start in September. Here we go. So this week we're talking about the weirdest, worst and most wonderful jobs you've ever had.

Now, Katie, I've got some good listeners they've written in about jobs they've had. Would you like to tell me about the weirdest job you've had? Weirdest. Or the worst, all the funniest or some job to note. I've had show many. weird and wacky jobs. Katie was a stripper. Imagine.

I don't. I wish I had the skill. You'd be minted. They rake it in. Thanks so much money. I'm so jealous. They rake it. I used to work at a coffee shop.

And that's when I learned I'm not really good in hospitality. Yeah. Didn't last in that job long. It didn't last front. I did front of house at a West End theatre. Did not last in that long. That was a bad job. You've actually done loads of different jobs, haven't you?

Yeah. Worked in retail. Yeah. Pharmacy. Pharmacy was my favorite job to work and I loved that. You loved that. You loved that. You loved that. I mean, I used to work at Barry's and you have to get up at like 4 a.m. for your shift. Oh my God. That's horrible. Barys is a gym by the way. So that's awful. That was intense. Yeah. Lots of weird and I mean, I remember in my hospitality job, they used to make me clean the windows. And it was like winter and it was really cold and I used to clean the windows.

That's absolutely freezing. It was freezing. Yeah. I was like, you can see your breath on the window. Or like, today, I had to re-stick at every single pair of socks we had. Stop here. That was a bit long. That was a bit long. I was like, this is unnecessary.

It's just so, you're giving me a job here. Please. It's like, as we said, you never know until you do it. Because I feel working in a coffee shop anywhere other than London would be delightful. Oh, yeah. I think London is the worst place to work in a coffee shop. It's horrendous. You get the most rude people, although I won't say just London.

I think America in general with New York and L.A., I follow this. Insane. I follow this retail shop TikTok account. Yeah. And they do, based on a true story, and they pretend to be the customers coming in. Oh, hilarious. They are awful. They are, like, absolutely awful.

I can't do it. I just want to try this on for my daughter, but actually I can't be all bothered. So can you try it on because you're about five, size is bigger than her. Oh, how lovely. Like, the things they say, but in the coffee shop, when I worked in one, they were just, to be fair, I remember, I was actually reflected on this, but we were planning the episode, I remember when I first worked in the job, and someone ordered a matcher. I had no idea what a matcher was. Oh, my God, yeah. I thought it was their accent. Yeah. Have I heard this wrong? And they said it again,

they did say match it. And I'm like, I don't know what that is. I was like mocker. It's a mocker. Yeah. They mean a mocker. It's a mocker. Well, call me a bloody idiot. That's hilarious. And honestly, their diction was perfect. Yeah. Matcher. Mokka. Mocker. Mocker.

And now you're like, inject matcha in my veins. Yeah, yeah, completely. Brought them out of mock and they were like, I ordered a match and I'm like, yes, I still don't get what that is. Yeah, like, could you explain? Please tell me what that is. Care to explain? I used to love the pastries at that coffee shopping worked at. Oh, my God. They were insane. They were insane.

I loved that. Although they had incredible food. Incredible food. Yeah. Really tasty. Okay. Right. So we got some lists, little writings about their jobs.

Okay. So someone said, let's have a look at Rooney. Hey, girls. For my first job when I was at uni and needed a bit of extra cashola. Love it. I dressed up as a giant chicken for a kid's birthday party. It was all about learning the benefits of health. healthy food for a birthday party.

Yeah, happy birthday. Yeah, I'm a birthday. No, no party rings for you. Party rings. Halfway through, a dog attacked me. Because they thought I was real poultry. Real poultry. The parents screamed.

The kids cried and I literally just lay on the floor in a fluffy suit. Oh, my God, no. I'm wondering if the money's worth it. No, no, no. Yeah, I think that would put you off ever do. that again, if a dog was attacking, I'd be terrified. I'd be like, no. I would be absolutely terrified.

I'd be like, get this. Also, I bet they would smell that chicken suit. It's like, you know, when you put like a wetsuit on and someone's, oh, if you put a helmet on so I've got that horrible rugby kit smell. Yeah.

Grim. Okay, next one. Hi, Kitty and Katie. When I was 18 and desperate for more money to save up for a car, I got a job during Christmas. I worked as a shopping centre elf. Aww. Oh, God, I bet you see some shit in that job.

Santa turned up drunk every day and kept calling the kids little goblins. Santa. I honestly couldn't stop laughing. And to this day, still referred to children as little goblins. It's the best job I've ever had. Now I work in finance, bored out of my mind, and I miss the goblin.

days. Oh, you always, yeah, vibes. I bet you miss pharmacy. I miss that pharmacy job so much. You've got some great stories. But I feel like if I went into pharmacy, like, if I took a pharmacy job now, I'd be so bored. Oh, you'd be so bored. And also. But it was also the time, because it was during COVID. Yeah. You were just out of school. You didn't know what life was like. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like I would like really be bad at it now. Yeah. Yeah. You're like, well, literally so many nemeses. Yeah. God. Yikes. Okay, so someone says, hi, girls, while I was at Newcastle, probably Newcastle uni, I think, I got a job at a bar. Oh, God. Oh, my God, this is so funny. This is something I do.

When someone ordered a Guinness, I poured the Guinness into a wine glass, because I thought it looked fancy. No, that's criminal. Every time I see it Guinness now, I cringe. Can you imagine? I'd be so embarrassed. Imagine. Someone was like, can I have a Guinness? and I was just like...

In a champagne flute. Cheers. I literally imagine if we were on a night out and the boys ordered Guinness and it came in a wine glass. I'd be so embarrassed. It would be hilarious. I'd be so embarrassed.

Oh my God. And they're like, sorry, it's not in that class. I'm like, what do you mean? It's not in that class. It's supposed to be a part. And it doesn't matter what class it's in. And you're like, yeah, it does. Okay, so last one says...

Yeah. I used to work at a cinema. This is a bit of you. You'll love this. Oh, free pop. I used to work at a cinema. I was paid to go into the cinemas and make sure it was all clean for the next movie.

Oh, great. It was the easiest job. As I'd whip around so quickly, I would then always just sit in the cinema and set a 45-minute timer on my phone. Oh. The lights would go off and I'd have a nap. Oh, iconic.

Yeah, iconic. That's really good. My auntie told me once because she's the barrister. She says sometimes if she's like really tired, she'll just go into the court if there's not a court, there's not like a case on and she'll just have like a 20 minute nap like sat iconic i love that i'm like i love it i just can't i just can't nap like i'd be stressed i'd be stressed of being found out i can't i can't i tried to nap at a job i was in once and i was checking like every five

seconds upstairs because i was like what if someone arrives i'd like lock the tour because basically like we had like we were done for the day and the next person wasn't due in until like three hours later and I was like well come on I couldn't sleep there were no more appointments so I was like oh I could just lock the door yeah and I was literally but I was so nervous that someone someone was just going to arrive and imagine if they were like head office well I tried to swing by but studio was locked and I'd be like I'm so scared I don't know why that was yeah yeah really why I don't know why did I ever tell you about the school story about the teacher so this was bad to be fair really bad so we had a we had a big kind of, I would say, yeah, it was the costume department in my school, and it was like huge.

But it was like, as costume departments are stuff everywhere, like, this is this and this is this. It was just like completely chaotic. Anyway, there was a shade long in the costume department, you know, as you do, because you need to put your food. Yeah. Your shoes on or all that kind of stuff. Massively. Whatever. Anyway, it was quite normal for us students to go to the costume. department if we were in a drama lesson and they said just go grab something right anyway my friend went into the costume department to just grab something he was like I'm just going to

go anyway sat down on the shades long notice there was a pile of clothes but he just sat down on the shays long to put something on or whatever felt a wriggle and someone went oh like that one of the teachers what no and he like jumped up oh my god and the student was like, the student was like, oh my God. I mean, it was a male teacher with a male student, but that could have gone wrong. Like, imagine someone else had cut, right, I remember he told me that story. And I was like, that is fucking. Oh, my God.

And that would spread so quickly. Oh, and also it would get so, did you hear they were sleeping in the costume department together? No, they weren't. Yeah, yeah, it gets so smart. Okay. Okay, you ready for our debrief? I like this. Give it to me.

It's a short one this week. So, hi, girls. Oh, short one this week. Yeah. But would love your opinion on the situation, so I'll debrief. I accidentally found out my male colleague at work, who does the exact same job as me and has the exact same job title, is being paid 5K more than I am. Oh. I really, really like my job, but I'm furious.

Yeah. Do I confront my boss and demand an explanation slash raise and risk being seen as difficult or stay quiet and resentful while job hunting on the side? I think what you need to do is write down everything you've done, write down how long you've been with the company, log, if you're all salary, log your actual hours, be like, this is how much I'm working. Yeah.

This is everything I've achieved whilst being here. and I've been with you for over a year now, I would love to. Next time you have a review, bring the pay up. That's very diplomatic. I feel like if you go in being like, I heard all of us get...

I know all of us getting 5K more than me. So cough it up, big man. It's really fickle. And it's a very taboo thing like salaries, isn't it? It is. So as a caveat here, she goes in and does what you say and the guy goes, no.

What are you doing with that? I would then be like, may I ask then why Stewart's getting more money? May I ask what Stewart's doing within his job role that qualifies? Because I'd love to get paid the same amount of Stewart. So what extra duties are Stewart doing that I'm not? I think that's a great piece of advice. And then he's like, let me cut the check. Yeah, I think that's a brilliant piece of advice.

Because as you said, I don't think you should just job hunt for the sake of it. No, if you like your job. When you said you loved your job, but I think Katie's advice is brilliant there. It could be like, I can't remember if you said, but it might be the fact that Stuart joined first. Yeah, she didn't say that to be fair. If Stewart's joined first and he's on a higher salary and then they've realized as a company, they have to cut costs and they've advertised the same role at a lower salary.

Yeah. It's like, it's definitely not the same thing, but people I used to work with when I worked at boots. There were people who'd been there for years who would never leave because their contract was so old. It was literally like they still got double pay on Sundays. They still like got time and a half for overtime. Like they had a really good contract. So they were like, I don't want to leave because your contract shit. And I'm like, yeah, fair. Wow. So he could have joined at a point where they could have afforded to pay him more. Yeah. Yeah. And then they've actually lowered salaries because they are trying to budget better. Yeah.

And also, I think, as you said, and as Katie said, I think during that conversation, I think there would be a bit of a, oh, fair. Yeah. You know, we haven't really been clocking every day that Stewart makes 5K more than you. Yeah. But actually, we see that your performance is just as good, if not better. So, yeah, I do see your point. I mean, 5K is a big jump if they're doing the exact same thing.

It is. So, yeah. So, yeah. But you never know. Yeah. Do what. Chase's advice was, that was bloody brilliant. Pails it.

Thank you. Thank you. You ready? Yep. So I've got one. I've got one. I've got one. I hate when people belittle other people because of the job they're in.

Yes. Someone was doing it recently about someone's girlfriend. I don't know this individual. It was like a friend of a friend, but they were referencing someone. And I was like, why does it matter? how does that affect how reputable that person is? Yeah, yeah.

Do you know what I mean? And the job wasn't even like scandalous or anything. It was just like, why does someone need to meet your, I mean, you can never please everyone, but why do we need to meet your expectation of what an actual professional job? You know, that was, I just was like, I find this a lot with, um, sometimes people in our group when we go out and they're like, what do you do for work again?

And I'm like, well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think because we all come from very different job backgrounds. Yeah. But, like, I often find it, I find it a difficult conversation being like, I work front of house at a gym. Yeah, yeah, completely. But I'm also like an actor and I'm like trying to do that thing.

So, yeah, yeah. And they're like, oh, I'm like, so you just work like on the desk. I'm like, yeah. I'm like, but they don't get out. They don't get out. They don't get out. It's like, they don't see the career. No, they don't.

So I find, sometimes I'm like, and they're like, how's work? And I'm like, yeah. But it's so funny because people not in our industry are like, I mean, I find it, no, nothing offends me more is when people ask, oh, how's the job that I'm doing my muggle job? Yeah. I'm like, that's not my job. I don't care about that. Yeah. You know?

I actually couldn't care less about that job. Yeah, like, I couldn't care less. So why are you asking me? I mean, it shows that person doesn't know me if someone asks about that. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, I'm like, I mean, it's different when we all come home. We're like, how's your day?

Yeah. But it's not like, how's your passion? I'm like, that's not my passion. Yeah. You get me? I get you. Okay. Ready?

Yep. Jobs worths. People are taking their job far, far, too seriously. Oh, yeah. Far too seriously. I think about it has come across a lot recently. But like, throughout my whole life when you're like, God, you're taking your job seriously. Like, it's all right.

Some people take real pride in it that I don't like. Real, real pride. I remember. I actually had it on the train on the way back from York that they were doing tickets. And the signal is bad on when you're coming from York. There's like a big patch before you like between Doncaster and Peaceboro where like the signal's a bit patchy. So we were going through and I show him my ticket. He's like, can I see your rail card?

I'm like, yeah, of course. And I'm like, show it trying to get the rail card up and the app's not loading. And I tried to get on the, I was like refreshing, refreshing the app's not loading. And I'm like, oh, I'm really sorry. Like I do have it. and he stood over me. Oh, God. And he's like, can you connect to the Wi-Fi?

So I had to connect to the Wi-Fi in front of this man still wouldn't load, tried to go off it again. And I'm like, oh, I do have one. I really do have one. Like, I do, I do. And I think he then saw me shooting myself and he was like, okay. But I was like... But equally, I've had that before and they'll go, look, I'll be back in 10 minutes

because I need to shoot up a video. Yes, but then I'm like, still so pedantic, but fair. Yeah. but hovering over like a bad smell he was hovering and I was like guys it was the same we had like a company come into work once and they were literally like we will not leave until this is sorted like you need and they were just hovering and I was like guys I'm not the manager like and my manager's off today so like you'll be stood hit all day yeah have fun with that like get yourself comfy on one of those yoga mats literally I was like it's just sometimes I'm just like it's not less so people take it their jobs too seriously, it's more the lack of compassion with certain situations where I'm like, you're taking your job too seriously. Completely. Like, completely.

It's, you know, have some empathy. Absolutely. I mean, I've seen an old woman accidentally get on the wrong train and they're like, well, love, you know, let's say she's going to bloody Peterborough, she gets on the train to Peterborough, but it's the one the director rather than the one that has a stop. And they've been like, oh, love, it's wrong train. Wrong train, you'll have to pay four to five pounds. She's like, what?

She's like, nobody was on the same platform. Five minutes difference. Should have, should have, she's like, no, you have to pay? I'm like, honestly, I'm like, come. And she was, like, so sad. An elderly woman. Come on. I'm like, come on.

The thing is if I had that trouble. This is maybe why, like, I shouldn't be in management. Because I live. I'm so lenient. They'd be like, I haven't got a ticket. It's fine. It's fine. Literally, no, because I always think about people.

I'd be the worst at an airport. This won't fit in the bag. It's fine. Go on through. Honestly. Enjoy your holiday. Honestly, just jug it in there. You're just designed to relax.

And then, be bloody my life, that's when a bob goes off. And I'm like, hey. I was on that day? And I'm like, hey, hey. I'm not looking around like, no nothing. I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, actually, I don't know.

You ready for questions? I am. I'm silly. And I'm serious. Okay, hit me. How important do you still think social media affects your chances of getting a job? Oh, that's a really good question. I think it does depend on the industry someone's in, I think.

Because for example, yeah, tell me. There's a lot of discourse with performers that your Instagram pages are like the new spotlight and you always have to be uploading shit. I'm not uploading anything to my spotlight on my Instagram. If you think I'm posting singing reels on my Instagram, you'll be gladly mistaken. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I sometimes feel like there's a narrative

that performers aren't trying hard enough because they're not posting stuff on their social media. Yeah. And I'm like, can I not have some privacy or? Yeah. I just don't, I've never known someone that's got a job. Yeah, from social media. Oh, I saw their Instagram page.

No. No. And equally, I feel that I know it's all different. but you don't see someone in finance loads in the numbers and going, yeah, look at me at my job. Do you know what I mean? I think the expectation there

that you should be sharing your art with everyone. You should be, no, I don't. Yeah. I've got a different, this is just for my friends here. Yeah, yeah. My art is for when I'm trying to get a job and trying to pursue thing. Yeah.

So I don't like that narrative so much. I think there's a real narrative in our day and age. that you can't have privacy that everything should be public. Yeah, yeah. Even down to treatments or surgeries or, you know, well, you've done it so you have to tell

or, well, you're in the spotlight so you have to share. And it's like, I don't actually, what in my contract says I have to do that? You know, and I think my argument there is that as before, my Instagram is with my friends. Yeah. I'm not trying to get one of my friends to cast me.

No, literally. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. spotlight, absolutely. Always being updated, always has right things, has relevant things. That's completely different. So I don't like that narrative at all. I think social media can be really, really good for some things, but I think it can be unhealthy for expectations of how you should be working towards a job. Yeah. Because I don't think that's correct. Yeah. I don't. I think people do that once they've got a job. Yeah. And they're like, right, this is what I did. Right. Fantastic. That's

fantastic. But I think social media can. be a warped perception of job hunting. Yeah, possibly. Are you ready for the ceiling? I am. Sealy question. Billy. Okay, so my silly question is,

Beep, beep. Okay, if animals had jobs, who would be the absolute worst co-worker? I don't know why I got it in my head. First thing that came to mom was a tortoise. Lazy or slow. Not even. I just think it would be up in your fucking business.

Oh. gossiping. Oh. I don't think a tortoise has a lot of initiative. Right, yeah. And I don't think a tortoise would be very like proactive. Proactive. No, no.

Yeah, yeah. Whereas a hedgehog, a hedgehog would get it done and be efficient. Yeah, hedgehog would get it down to gossip. Whereas tortoise would be like bitter. Yeah. Nothing worse than a bitter co-worker. No, nothing worse. That's a really good one.

And also, you'd be like, I can't be feeding you here. I can't be forced feeding you. You're not a child. No. Do the job yourself. Do it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nothing worse.

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