The Deck - Clarissa Castro (King of Hearts, California)

Episode Date: November 29, 2023

Our card this week is Clarissa Castro, the King of Hearts from California.One fall day in 1991, 14-year-old Clarissa vanished into thin air after a night of hanging out with friends. Years later, the ...mystery of where she disappeared to would be solved, but that discovery would open up a whole new world of unknowns.If you know anything about the murder of 14-year-old Clarissa Castro in 1991, please call the Chula Vista Police Department at (619)691-5151.To learn more about The Deck, please visit www.thedeckpodcast.com. To apply for a Cold Case Playing Card grant through Season of Justice, please visit www.seasonofjustice.org.*Note: Clarissa's first name is pronounced "CLA-REESE-EE-UH" in accordance with her sister's guidance. The detective pronounces her name differently in this episode. Let us deal you in… follow The Deck on social media.Instagram: @thedeckpodcast | @audiochuckTwitter: @thedeckpodcast_ | @audiochuckFacebook: /TheDeckPodcast | /audiochuckllc The Deck is hosted by Ashley Flowers. Instagram: @ashleyflowersTikTok: @ashleyflowerscrimejunkieTwitter: @Ash_FlowersFacebook: /AshleyFlowers.AF Follow The Deck on social media and join Ashley’s community by texting (317) 733-7485 to stay up to date on what's new!

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Our card this week is Claricia Castro, the King of Hearts from California. One fall day in 1991, 14-year-old Claricia vanished into thin air after a night of hanging out with friends. Years later, the mystery of where she disappeared too would be solved, but that discovery would unlock a whole new world of unknowns. I'm Ashley Flowers, and this is The Deck. December 8, 1991 was a bit of a gloomy day in Southern California. The Sunday afternoon clouds hinted that rainfall was imminent. But that didn't stop a 14-year-old boy who will call Joey from walking a nature trail
Starting point is 00:01:14 in part of Chula Vista, known as the O.T. River Bottom. Now, it wasn't exactly known for being the best part of town, but that too didn't deter Joey for making the most of his weekend. What did stop him was what he would find on the side of the trail, under some trash bags caught in barbed wire. It was what appeared to be a human leg. Joey wasn't sticking around to find out what the leg might be connected to. He booked it home looking like he'd seen a ghost and told his stepfather, between heavy breaths, what he'd found. Joey stepped out needed to see this for himself, so he grabbed his cousin and had Joey lead them all back to the scene. Here's Chula Vista police sergeant Tony Molina describing what the three of them saw.
Starting point is 00:01:57 Each of them separately get within a few feet of what appeared to be a body and they take a closer look. And so stepdad, it looks closer, he sees, yep, it's definitely a leg that looks like charred or mummified skin on the leg. But most of the body, like going up from about the knees up, the flesh is mostly gone, it's bones. And then the top part is covered by blue garbage bags. But there's holes in the garbage bags
Starting point is 00:02:25 where there's long dark hair coming out. They realize this is definitely a body so they call the Chilvice Police Department. Once police got there, they got busy and fast wanting to beat the rain. There wasn't much evidence to collect aside from the body itself. It was clear that the deceased individual
Starting point is 00:02:43 had been there a while, given that the remains were partially skeletonized. And because of that, they couldn't even make a guess regarding cause of death. But they did know that this was a homicide, because along with the fact that this person had been wrapped in trash bags, investigators would also come to learn that this person's hands had been bound with some kind of commercial type tape. Now it appeared that the victim was likely a woman given the long hair and outfit, which was a black lace bra, a dark colored tank top, and a large gray sweatshirt. But she didn't have any form of ID on her. So, added to the list of mysteries they needed to solve
Starting point is 00:03:19 was her identity. They started the autopsy the next day, and the medical examiner was able to even provide some updates to the detectives over the next few days, including narrowing down an age range. They narrowed it down to a 14 to 16-year-old Hispanic female. They estimated she was 5'4 to 5'5 with brown hair. Still no cause of death or ID, but at least now investigators were equipped with a description that they could compare against anyone missing in Chula Vista. There was only one missing female at the time out of Chula Vista.
Starting point is 00:03:57 There was anywhere close to this, but she was a woman in her 30s. That's where everyone kept asking, including reporters at the time, is this that girl and from the department they were saying it doesn't seem to match up. It's possible at this point. We're checking in to it, but it doesn't seem to match. That became a prevailing issue. Nothing was seeming to match. Even with the Jane Doe's description published in local newspapers, no one was coming forward saying, Hey, I haven't seen my daughter or sister or friend in a while. Not even an, I know someone
Starting point is 00:04:31 who matches that description. It was complete radio silence. Now, it's not clear what steps police immediately took, like whether or not they entered their dough into databases. But I have to assume they did. Because even though this was the early 90s, NCIC was connected to all 50 states by then. Also the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children was around, which would have been another database to easily check their dough against. But whether they did their due diligence or not, the identity of Chulivista Jando remained unknown.
Starting point is 00:05:03 And over the coming months, the case sat cold, which didn't sit well with any of the detectives at Chulavista PD. So they started trying some different routes to revamp the case, like they had a clay reconstruction made of the Jando's face. And after that didn't turn up any leads, they took more drastic steps, steps that took a detective
Starting point is 00:05:24 all the way north of the border. He went up to Ottawa, Canada with this evidence of the bag and the tape because there was some new way of taking prints then and apparently they were the closest place to doing it. So they agreed to have him come up and he was there for three days, they processed it over three days, he was there every day of it. And unfortunately, no prints were developed. He was there for three days, they processed it over three days. He was there every day of it. And unfortunately, no prints were developed.
Starting point is 00:05:48 For a few years, that's all it was. Treading water, trying to keep up with technological advances. But ultimately, getting nowhere. That is, until June of 1994, two and a half years after the discovery of their Jane Doe. That's when a detective at Chulavista PD got a call from a county sheriff's deputy who dropped an absolute bombshell.
Starting point is 00:06:11 Out of nowhere, he says, Hey, I might know who your Jane Doe is. We have this missing girl, 14-year-old Claricia Castro, who's been missing since 91, and the description seems to match up. Now, just a pause for a second, because you might be wondering if this girl has been missing since 91, why is this deputy now just calling in 94? Well Sergeant Molina says it's not as random as it seems. Apparently, California's missing an unidentified person section, aka Mupps.
Starting point is 00:06:43 Regularly reaches out to agencies with missing and unidentified person section, aka Mupps. Regularly reaches out to agencies with missing and unidentified cases and gives them kind of like a polite nudge, which is what had happened here. Mupps had reached out to the Sheriff's Office and asked them where they were with Clarissia's still open missing persons case. And thank God for that nudge.
Starting point is 00:07:01 Because Chula Vista detectives agree, this seemed like a promising lead. So they quickly started looking into it. Got Claricia's dental records, and lo and behold, it was her. The Chulavista Jando was Claricia Castro. Authorities got in contact with Claricia's family and started interviews right away. I mean, they had two and a half years of ketchup to do. One of the first family members they spoke with was Claricia's oldest sister, Celestina
Starting point is 00:07:31 Ramirez, who was 16 when Claricia went missing and was actually the one who filed the missing person report with the Sheriff's Office. Celestina painted a picture for investigators of the kind of environment that she and her four siblings were raised in. She said their mother struggled with substance use and was barely home, leaving her to care for her younger siblings. Prior to Claricia's disappearance, Celestina had grown tired of the chaos and moved out to live with a friend, leaving Claricia as the motherly figure around the house.
Starting point is 00:08:03 Naturally, Celestina often worried about her younger sister, but she told police that that feeling of worry was stronger than ever on October 23rd, 1991. Here's Celestina we're calling that day. That day I felt weird like I was drawn to her. I just didn't know what was going on, so I went and visited her that morning and I visited her and she was fine. And I just was like, hmm, okay.
Starting point is 00:08:45 Seeing Clarice of fine, just that once wasn't enough to ease Celestina's nerves. So later on in the day, she returned to the house and things weren't as calm as they were the first visit. At that time, she had like some kind of party or something going on
Starting point is 00:09:02 and there was a whole bunch of people in the house. And I did see her, she looked fine. She didn't look like out of the ordinary. I even went into the house just to see, you know, what's going on. But the feeling I had, there was something wrong, something going on, you know. Celestina couldn't stay long because at 16,
Starting point is 00:09:24 she had her own party to get to. But even after leaving, she still couldn't shake the feeling that something was a miss. She didn't like that her sister was at the house with dozens of people, especially with the rest of her younger siblings there. My ex at the time noticed that I wasn't comfortable. So he and his brother and
Starting point is 00:09:45 mom went to the house to make sure to get all those people out of the house. And he said that she's fine, everything's good. She's there, you know, so I got a little bit relieved. But then after the party had him, I still felt like I still had to go and check on her again. So after that, it was late. We stopped by again. Celestina told police that everything seemed calm and fine. Lights off, no noise.
Starting point is 00:10:16 That still wasn't good enough for her. And she noticed Claricia had her window open. I had to go and wake her up through the window to come and open the door. And so she did that. She came out, she was saying, what's going on? And nothing, I just wanted to check and see if you're okay. I just didn't feel comfortable
Starting point is 00:10:38 with all those people in your house. So I just wanted to see if you were okay, you know, and safe or, you know, just, I didn't tell her how I felt, why I kept on going back to her. So we left it at that, because I seen that she was okay, she came out, she looked fine after that. She went back into the house and I left. Celestina thought that was the end of it,
Starting point is 00:11:03 that somehow her intuition was just malfunctioning or something. But it turns out it wasn't malfunctioning at all. She just wouldn't know it until the following morning when she had an unexpected guest show up at her doorstep. My mom comes to my house and tells me, where did I hide her? Where did I put her at? I'm like, what are you talking about? It goes, your sister, she's not home.
Starting point is 00:11:28 I go, what do you mean she's not home? Yeah, she left to your siblings by themselves. And I go, she was fine when I seen her last night, but no, I don't have her anywhere. I'm not hiding her. So then my mom left. It took days before she found out the truth. One of her best friends got in contact with me
Starting point is 00:11:51 and told me that my sister was missing. I go, what do you mean she's missing? She was, yeah, we're out here looking for her. I thought, okay, maybe my sister stepped out or she, you know, maybe had enough and she left her little bang. Come back. My mom never got back on contact with me.
Starting point is 00:12:08 So she never let me know that she never made it back and didn't tell her friends. Her best friend told me, and I go, oh my god, you guys are looking for her? Yeah, she's missing. Celestina said she didn't know what to do other than call the police and try to file a missing person report. But they told her she couldn't do what to do other than call the police and try to file a missing person report. But they told her she couldn't do that since she was a minor, leaving Celestina feeling helpless. I knew there was something wrong, but I couldn't figure it out.
Starting point is 00:12:37 And you know, even after the fact, no one was listening, no one did anything. Celestina said it wasn't until the following January, three months later that she was finally able to file a report alongside her grandmother. But even with that official report filed, Claricia was labeled an endangered runaway. But that didn't feel right because she had never runaway before. And she wouldn't have willingly abandoned her younger siblings, especially when their mom wasn't home. But none of that mattered to investigators.
Starting point is 00:13:11 Celestina's concerns were largely ignored at the time. No one outside of Claricia's family was truly concerned for her safety until now. Two and a half years later, now that police had physical proof something terrible did indeed happen to her. After talking with Celestina, investigators sat down with Clarice as younger sister, who was only six years old when Clarice went missing. Here is police Sergeant Molina again. She couldn't remember a whole lot, so that very first time that they interviewed her, she said that she remembered that night before Clarissa went missing. So again, presumably the night when all these kids are over
Starting point is 00:13:49 because she didn't remember all the people there. She does remember at some point her sister walking out in front of the house and getting in a fight with two girls. She remembered her sister coming back in, crying, but otherwise okay. And that was kind of the extent of her statement that first time around. In talking with Claricia's loved ones, police learned that she was going through some very trying times just prior to her disappearance. Her family had just moved from the Spring Valley neighborhood
Starting point is 00:14:18 to the Lomita neighborhood a few miles away across the freeway. But it was enough distance that they crossed the boundaries between two gangs. And what we know about Clarissa now based on statements from family members and friends is she was involved in a female gang at the time in that region. It sounds like there may have been a little bit of conflict in that area. Rumor also had it that Claricia was affiliated
Starting point is 00:14:45 with not just her gang, but another one through this guy. At least a couple of her friends said that she was not necessarily dating, but in their words, fooling around with a gang member boy out of her original neighborhood area where she lived in Spring Valley before. We've been asked to call this guy Charlie. The thing about Charlie is he also has a girlfriend.
Starting point is 00:15:11 So that was of course something that Detective started looking at at that time. You know, is it possibly a love triangle, something like that? Now when we spoke with Sergeant Molina, he didn't know if investigators at the time interviewed Charlie. Even after we spoke with Molina, he was having trouble finding any record of that in the case file, which doesn't mean it didn't happen, documents and cases this old get lost, storm is placed all the time. Molina's pretty sure Charlie was spoken to at some point in the investigation, but he's
Starting point is 00:15:41 just not sure when or even what detectives learned. I do know though that they tracked down and talked to many of the 30-some kids who had attended the party at Claricia's place the night that she went missing. They were trying to see if anyone there had seen or knew something, but it didn't really get them anywhere. They spoke with a number of them, including one that was in prison at the time. It was kind of a typical, again, thinking of the gang culture, right? You don't talk.
Starting point is 00:16:09 Even if you don't really know anything, it's still going to be vague. You don't want to be seen talking with the police or interacting in that way. After weeks into the investigation, all police really had was a lot of background information and a total lack of cooperation from those who might have mattered most. I think it was pretty early on that we could tell this is not likely to be a stranger abduction type thing, and very likely to be related to her gang affiliation, whether it's a fight that she had or just something going on there.
Starting point is 00:16:41 Things quickly slowed down and eventually the investigation came to a screeching halt. To Celestina, it felt like they weren't pursuing the case as intensely as others because they viewed it as gang related. I was upset about that because regardless of her past or what she was in at that time, she's still a person and she does belong to somebody. It's time to move forward and realize that, you know, she's a person, she was a human being, you know. So, yeah, I was really frustrated.
Starting point is 00:17:15 Her frustrations only grew as hope dwindled. But it's amazing how quickly that spark of hope can be rekindled. For Celestina, it happened in 2003. When retired Sergeant Robert Conrad, better known as Bob around Chulavista Police headquarters, returned to the department to assist with cold case homicides. That's when he dusted off Claricia's case file and got to work.
Starting point is 00:17:41 to work. So when Bob came back, he interviewed the older sister again. And much of it stayed the same. She kind of reiterated the relationship with her mom at the time that there was a lot of reasons that she was not communicating with her mom about it. And he firmed up the timeline with her as far as when she reported her sister missing. Bob did also speak with the mom, and so mom admitted at the time
Starting point is 00:18:14 she was dealing with her own issues there at the house, and so she didn't remember a lot about the circumstances with her daughter going missing at the time as far as specifics. She said that the day prior to Clarissa going missing, she was in and out of the house all day. Her timeline when she spoke to Bob was that she left the house at 10,
Starting point is 00:18:37 PM got home at 2 a.m. And in her words, when she got home, there was a blanket on the floor by the couch and Clarissa was gone. She said that the six-year-old girl came out to her at the time and said that she saw Clarissa leave in a small white car. Her mom told investigators that after that, she tried to report Clarissa missing but was told that she was just a runaway. But Sarja Molina said that's never been confirmed on their end,
Starting point is 00:19:02 whether that call happened or not. She went on to say that she later heard talk on the street that a spring valley girl had been killed. Re-interviewing everyone wasn't the only thing on Bob's to-do list. He also wanted to take advantage of all the latest developments in forensic science. And the latest and greatest innovation at the time was forensic VMD, which is vacuum metal deposition, a technique to lift fingerprints off of difficult surfaces like fabric.
Starting point is 00:19:30 Police tried this method on the trash bags and tape recovered from the crime scene, but unfortunately nothing came of it. And so just like in the 90s, the case once again went cold. But it wouldn't stay that way for quite as long this time, because in 2006, their local Fox station aired a story about Claricia's case. And just like that, the community's interest was reignited, and so was Bob's. He once again jumped into re-interviewing people to see if anyone's story had changed, and wouldn't you know it? Someone's did.
Starting point is 00:20:05 None other than the youngest sister, who again was six years old at the time of her sister's disappearance, but she was now a young adult. And she had more to add to her eyewitness testimony. Now, as a refresher, here's what she had to say the first time detective spoke with her when she was still a child. She said that she remembered that night
Starting point is 00:20:25 before Clarissa went missing. She does remember, at some point, her sister walking out in front of the house and getting in a fight with two girls. She remembered her sister coming back in, crying, but otherwise okay. This time she says she recalled she had a bloody nose after that fight with the girls,
Starting point is 00:20:42 and that she went and grabbed some knives, put them on the table and said, don't answer the door. If it knocks, I'll get it. Who those girls were, she didn't know. She said that she believes it was some time around 10. She does not know for sure. She just remembered her and her younger siblings were in bed. She remembered hearing a car honk and looking out and seeing two guys that came up that drove up in a black or dark car and that Clarissa walked out there and got into the back seat and she left and that it appeared voluntary. That was her recollection this time around. It doesn't make sense with any of the timeline but that was her
Starting point is 00:21:24 recollection this time. What did make sense with everything else police knew, though, was that Claricia was scared and seemingly knew something was going to happen. Now, unfortunately, the sister's updated statement did little to jumpstart the investigation, and sadly, things stalled again. But Bob didn't give up. In 2008, he got Claricia put on a deck of cold case cards being distributed to prisons. And in 2010, he got her put on an updated edition of that deck. But still, crickets.
Starting point is 00:21:58 By the time 2015 rolled around, Bob was ready to drum up something, anything in the case. So he went back through everything to see if there was anyone to revisit, anything that could be sent off for DNA testing. And sure enough, as he read the case file over again, this time he honed in on a detail about fingernails that had been taken from Claricia during the autopsy. Holding his breath, Bob reached out to the medical examiner's office to see if they still had those fingernails, and could they send them off for testing?
Starting point is 00:22:30 The medical examiner's office said that during a facility move, those were unfortunately contaminated, and so they were no longer of evidentiary use. Those were gone. Police felt they'd exhausted all leads, but that's the thing about police work. New ideas, new paths forward can hit you out of nowhere. Even during our interview with Sergeant Molina, he said he wondered what Claricia's fingernails were contaminated with. Like, could there still be some usable DNA on them that could at least point them in the direction of their killer. Molina didn't know, but he seemed set on figuring that out.
Starting point is 00:23:09 Honestly, the most hopeful path forward for this case right now is this episode. Tula Vista detectives and Celestina alike are hopeful that it'll fall to the right person's ears. And maybe that person is you. Were you at Claricia's party on October 23rd, 1991? Did you witness something? Anything? Maybe someone confessed something to you later. Even if you think it's information police already have, please come forward again, or come forward for the very first time. You could be holding the missing piece to
Starting point is 00:23:45 this more than 30-year-old puzzle. If anybody did know anything, I just want them to come up and confess or come up and give information if they know any information because other fact that for one, she's a human being. Another, she was 14 and she's also a sister and a daughter to somebody. So we can be at ease. If you know anything about the murder of 14-year-old Claricia Castro in 1991, please call the Chulavista Police Department at 619-691-5151. The deck will be off next week,
Starting point is 00:24:27 but I'll return the following week with a brand new episode. The deck is an audio chuck production with theme music by Ryan Lewis. To learn more about the deck and our advocacy work, visit thedeckpodcast.com. So what do you think, Chuck? Do you approve? Aaaaah!

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