The Deck - Dail Dinwiddie (9 of Diamonds, South Carolina)

Episode Date: May 11, 2022

Our card this week is Dail Dinwiddie, the 9 of Diamonds from South Carolina. Dail Dinwiddie, 23, was enjoying a night out with friends after a U2 concert in September 1992 when she disappeared. Dail ...was last seen leaving a bar in the popular Five Points neighborhood in the early morning hours, after getting separated from her friends. She’s never been seen or heard from since. If you know anything about the disappearance, abduction, or murder of Dail Dinwiddie, you're urged to call the Columbia Police Department at 803-749-5836 or call South Carolina Crime Stoppers, where a significant reward is being offered, at 888-CRIME-SC. To learn more about The Deck, visit www.thedeckpodcast.com. To apply for the Cold Case Playing Cards grant through Season of Justice, visit www.seasonofjustice.org

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Our card this week is Dale Dinwitty, the nine of diamonds from South Carolina. In 1992, Dale was a 23-year-old woman enjoying a night out with friends, when suddenly she vanished from a crowded club never to be seen again. Maybe the right person listening to this episode will change that. I'm Ashley Flowers, and this is The Deck. On September 24, 1992, at 6.15 in the morning, Dan Dinwitty was just getting out of bed. He needed to let the family's dog out because he knew his teenage son Drew would sleep in and not do it, and the dog always slept in Drew's room, so it fell on Dad to make sure the morning potty break happened.
Starting point is 00:01:17 Dan shuffled down the hallway towards his son's room and was just about to open the door when something else caught his eye. The door to his daughter D Dale's bedroom, was slightly open. When he appeared inside, fully expecting to see his 23 year old daughter asleep, she wasn't there. The bed she slept in every night was empty. And based on the way the bedsheets and pillows looked, it appeared as if no one had been there all night.
Starting point is 00:01:42 To make the scene even stranger was the fact that the radio and lights in the room were still on. Dale had recently moved back into the family's Columbia South Carolina home after graduating from a woman's college in Virginia with a degree in art history. She was back for the time being because she made plans to attend grad school that fall at the University of South Carolina.
Starting point is 00:02:02 Dan immediately thought the site of Dale's empty bed was odd. He knew she was going out to a concert the night before with some friends, and figured she would be out late, but he never heard her say that she wasn't coming home. And he knew his daughter well enough to know that it was unlikely Dale was already dressed and gone from the house that early in the morning on a Thursday. She was scheduled to walk a neighborhood boy that she babysat to his bus stop, but that wasn't until well after 615 in the morning. There was no reason for her to be gone this early. To try and get some answers, Dan woke up his wife Jean and Dale's brother Drew and asked them if Dale had talked to them about maybe staying at a friend's house the night before or something.
Starting point is 00:02:39 But they both said no. Now, you might be thinking like, okay, take a breath, she's an adult, she could come and go freely if she wanted to, and it's true she could, but doing it without any communication was just super out of character for her. According to Dan who spoke with our team for this episode, Dale always kept in close contact with her parents, especially if she knew she was going to be out late. In fact, from time to time, Dale would even call her parents for a ride if she needed one, even if it was late at night. But Dan knew that Dale had not called them Wednesday night,
Starting point is 00:03:09 and she had not called them early Thursday morning either. That was a clear sign to them that something was up. But Dale not being in contact with anyone in her family wasn't even the biggest red flag that wore a Dan. What really concerned him was the fact that Dale was scheduled to accompany that neighborhood boy to his bus stop that morning. Her skipping What really concerned him was the fact that Dale was scheduled to accompany that neighborhood boy to his bus stop that morning. Her skipping out on that task was even more out of character. Dale was known to be a responsible person, and she wouldn't just no show for work, even if it was just a babysitting gig.
Starting point is 00:03:38 One of the first things Dan did to try and figure out what was going on was to start calling all of their neighbors and friends to see if Dale had stayed the night with any of them. Dale's mom called the parents of the boy who Dale babysat to let them know she was missing and wouldn't be available to watch him that day. Then, Jean and Dan started tag-teaming a list of everyone in their immediate community, with each phone call, their hearts sank more and more. No one had seen Dale and no one knew where she was. Eventually, Dan was able to reach some of Dale's friends that she'd been with at that concert the night before, but they said she wasn't with them anymore,
Starting point is 00:04:14 and they hadn't seen her since after the concert when they all went to a bar near the University of South Carolina's campus. So after that conversation, realizing that no one had seen Dale for several hours, Dan called the police at 8.30 in the morning. Our reporter, Emily, went to South Carolina to interview the cold case detective assigned
Starting point is 00:04:32 this case to learn everything we could about Dale's timeline that night. His name is Detective Kevin Rees, and he's a long time investigator with the Columbia Police Department. In 2020, he was assigned to reinvestigate Dale's disappearance, which is now the city's oldest missing persons case. In his investigation, Kevin's sequence of events about what happened to Dale goes like this.
Starting point is 00:04:55 On Wednesday night, September 23rd, a friend picked Dale up from her parents' house to go to a U-2 concert at Williams-Brice Stadium at USC's campus. The invitation to go to this concert was totally last minute and not something planned days ahead of time. Before her ride showed up, Dale put on her favorite pair of faded blue jeans, a green shirt, and tennis shoes.
Starting point is 00:05:16 She tied an LL Bean jacket around her waist and headed out the door. Based on what her friends told police, everyone in Dale's group had a great time with the concert and it ended around 11.15 pm. After that, Dale and some of her close friends went to a bar called Jungle Gims, which was in the popular five points district in downtown Columbia. Five points is a spot where college kids bar hop, and it pretty much looks the same today as it did back in 1992. All the restaurants and bars in that area are lined up on the same road, so it's easy
Starting point is 00:05:44 to go from one place to another. Now, Jungle Gyms isn't open anymore. In fact, it closed a long time ago, and at one point reopened as another bar called the Horseshoe. But that business later closed as well, and today the building is just a dilapidated ice-sour. But back in its heyday, it was normal for the street it's on to be a busy late night spot. Kevin said the night that Dale was there, the bar was reportedly really busy. USC's fall semester was just about to kick off, plus crowds from the U2 concert packed into five points bars. Back in 1992, investigators learned from speaking with Dale's friends and a few witnesses inside
Starting point is 00:06:20 the bar that around one in the morning on Thursday, Deal got separated from her group. Kevin Reece said that according to what he's pieced together from the investigative file, one of Deal's last known conversations before she vanished was with a bouncer working the door at Jungle Gems. She was at the concert with several of her friends. Somehow, she got disattached from her friends in a massive crowd down there.
Starting point is 00:06:48 And so she may have been asking questions, have you seen this person? And whoever she asked questions may have already been familiar with the person that she asked questions about. Kevin Thingsdale's interaction with the bouncer was her attempt at trying to find her friends. She specifically asked him if he'd seen the group she'd come in with Lee without her, or if he knew where they were, but he didn't. Kevin believes wholeheartedly that this brief conversation in the moments before and after are key to the investigation. I think the conversation was about, and I don't know whether Dale brought it up, or somebody in the club
Starting point is 00:07:29 would have found reason to ask Dale, are you lost? Pretty much in an environment like that, a lot of people know a lot of people, that knows a lot of people. And I would be remiss if I didn't put it to you like this. Somebody down there, knew somebody that knew somebody that knew somebody. Something about this response definitely makes me think he knows more about who those somebody's are and how they fit into Dale's last sighting. But it's probably information police want to keep close to the vest, even all these years later. The only other helpful information the Jungle Jim's Bouncer provided was that he remembered it being around 130 in the morning when he last saw Dale.
Starting point is 00:08:14 He told police that he watched her try and find her friends in the bar for a little bit, and then she left in kind of a hurry. When he last noticed her, he said that she was walking alone toward a nearby intersection that was just north of the bar. Kevin Ries says that negative information became very important to the investigation because it opened up a world of possibilities as to what happened next to Dale. In the days following Dale's disappearance, police were running several scenarios of what could have happened. One, she walked off on her own.
Starting point is 00:08:51 Her family and friends strongly opposed the scenario because they said Dale would never just walk away from her life. She had goals and dreams, even plans for grad school. Not to mention her family said she had a big fear of being alone. They told police it just wasn't possible that Dale would be willing to decide to disappear and start a new life somewhere alone. There was also the fact that she had left all of her belongings behind at her family's house. If she was going to run away, her parents didn't think she'd leave her personal possessions behind like that. There was also
Starting point is 00:09:20 no serious boyfriend in Dale's life who could have talked her in to running off. The second theory law enforcement considered was that maybe Dale had been in an accident. Maybe it was possible that when Dale left Jungle Jim's walking towards the intersection, that was her way of giving up her search for her friends and she just decided to walk home. And then maybe she'd been hit by a car or fallen and was still out there somewhere. In 1992 police searched all of the streets, parking lots, and dishes between where jungle gyms was and Dale's house, but detectives didn't find any sign of her. The idea that Dale was just injured somewhere started to become less and less likely.
Starting point is 00:10:00 Dan and Jean kept howling investigators over and over again that their daughter would never walk home alone at 1.30 in the morning. It just wasn't in her nature. They said it would have been far more likely for her to call them for a ride or to get picked up by a friend, specifically because they said Dale was extremely wary of strangers and wouldn't even get into taxi cabs by herself. So that information led police to strongly consider the last and most frightening theory, which was that Dale was abducted. It's a scenario cold case investigator Kevin Reese strongly believes today. There was somebody left around there and my guest is friends of hers, we never have done anything to her. Which to me means it was a total stranger.
Starting point is 00:10:43 To her, a total stranger, according to these documents, they wouldn't have given them the time of the day, especially that time at night. Never would have happened. Right after Dale Vanished, law enforcement announced that they were focusing more and more on a kidnapping scenario. Volunteers started putting up thousands of flyers
Starting point is 00:11:02 all around the city of Columbia, particularly in the five points district. The biggest hurdle investigators had in front of them was the fact that they technically had no crime scene, and they weren't even sure how long Dale remained in the bar district after walking out of jungle gyms that night. That's what makes this case one of the difficult ones. There's never been a crime scene that's been established. There was a location where a deal was last seen, but that doesn't make it a crime scene. And when if that's the case here, then you find those people. There was at that location, you find friends, you find family, you find people, employees of the club. You find people that frequented the club.
Starting point is 00:11:48 And those kind of things, especially 30 years later, it takes a lot of time and a lot of patience to get there done. The mega-popular band YouTube being in town that night, Dale Vannech, also presented some challenges to investigators. As you can imagine, their stadium show on USC's campus that night brought a lot of people to Columbia who weren't from the area, which just expanded an already large suspect
Starting point is 00:12:12 and witness pool. It would have attracted a lot of people here. I knew about the YouTube band, but I'm not sure if I was familiar with that group 30 years ago. I'm familiar sure if I was familiar with that group 30 years ago. I'm familiar with them now, but it would have been easier for people to come in to this area and the area of football stadium
Starting point is 00:12:35 just for that concert. If Dale had disappeared on any other regular night in Columbia, finding witnesses who recognized her, who may have seen her get into a car, might have been an easier task for authorities. A few out of town witnesses did try to help law enforcement over the years, and there have even been several occasions since 1992 where officers traveled out of state chasing leads. There were investigators that left the Columbia area, found people whose names popped up somehow and asked them questions
Starting point is 00:13:06 and interviewed them. That did happen. At one point, detectives' dogged efforts paid off. One of more than a thousand tips that came in about ten years after Dale Vanish led investigators to look into a known serial killer. A man who just so happened to be in Columbia the night Dale Dinwyte went missing. A man named Ronaldo Javier Rivera. Rivera abducted, raped, and killed four different women in South Carolina in Georgia between 1999 and 2000. And those are just the victims police know about.
Starting point is 00:13:39 He came on police's radar in 2003 when he approached an 18-year-old woman in South Carolina in a restaurant parking lot and pretended to be the owner of an escort service and modeling agency. He asked if he could take some photos of the woman, she agreed, and invited him to her home. Once inside, Rivera raped and stabbed the victim three times in the throat and left her to die. But somehow, this woman survived the attack
Starting point is 00:14:05 and she helped police identify her attacker. Officers eventually tracked him down to a motel room in South Carolina and he was arrested. Detectives working Dale's case got a tip and confirmed that back in 1992, when Rivera would have been 24, he was a student at the University of South Carolina and living in Columbia when Dale disappeared.
Starting point is 00:14:26 According to a 2004 associated press brief that appeared in the Greenville news, Rivera was originally from North Augusta, South Carolina, and during his 2004 trial, his attorney tried to convince the jury that their client was mentally ill, but the jurors didn't agree. He was 40 years old by the time he went on trial, and after he was found guilty, he told the jury he deserved to die. According to reports by the Associated Press, which appeared in various news outlets in South Carolina in Georgia, Rivera said that if he got the chance to kill again, he would. He said he even still fantasized about hurting the women he killed. According to the Georgia Department of Corrections, Rivera was convicted for that crime in January 2004 and later linked to several other rapes and murders. He was sentenced to death in February 2004 and
Starting point is 00:15:14 is still sitting on death row in Georgia at the time of this recording, according to the Georgia Department of Corrections. Though that all seems to make him a compelling person of interest, detectives have never been able to officially connect Rivera to Dale's disappearance, and he's never admitted to being involved. Because Dale is still a missing person, and no trace of her body has ever shown up, there's nothing for law enforcement to even compare Rivera's DNA to in relation to Dale's case. They have no evidence, at least not that we know of. Ultimately, Rivera's only ever been accused
Starting point is 00:15:50 of a few other murders from 1999, but he's never been formally accused of any killings prior to that. Detective Reese said the coincidence of Rivera living in Columbia and Dale vanished is definitely interesting, but he's unsure if it's simply that, just a coincidence. I've entertained a lot of notions, and that's what I do for a living.
Starting point is 00:16:12 I can't dismiss anything until I've proven a reason that it should be dismissed. Over the years, there have been reports of several sets of human bones being found in Colombia and the Greater Richland County area, but so far, none of them have been identified as belonging to Dale Dinwitty. Finding Dale's remains and continuing to press people from Colombia about the case is a high priority for Reese. Truly, if they had nothing to do with this case, then they would accept me at their door because I'm asking them to repeat for me what they said 30 years ago.
Starting point is 00:16:52 And I have some questions I want to piggyback off of those questions so that I can come up with some answers that were never answered 30 years ago. With or without Dale's body, there are some indisputable facts Detective Reese says define the case in his unit's theory of what happened. Remember, the Bouncer at Jungle Jim's in 1992 told police that Dale was walking north away from the bar at 1.30 in the morning, and it looked like she was in a hurry. Despite there being plenty of people out that night, no one other than that bouncer has ever said they saw Dale after 130 in the morning on September 24th, 1992. Because of that, police find it hard to believe that Dale was abducted right there in that
Starting point is 00:17:35 five-point district if no one saw or heard anything. They theorized it's more likely she made it out of the busy bar district and was isolated away from the crowds when she was abducted, essentially in area where there would be no witnesses. On the other hand, they can't entirely rule out the idea of her being taken in the middle of the busy night life either. Dale was tiny and petite and could have easily been overtaken in a matter of seconds. I mean, her family and police have said that she could have passed for a teenager. That's how small she was. But small or not, her family says that she said that she could have passed for a teenager. That's how small she was.
Starting point is 00:18:05 But small or not, her family says that she no doubt would have put up a fight. Even Kevin Rhee says, it's undoubtedly clear that what day-alact in physical size she made up for in attitude. She was not the type of person to take lip from anyone, especially men. She sounds like she had all the qualities of a crime junkie, honestly. For example, her friend says that when Dale would get hit on and was annoyed by it, which happened a lot, she wouldn't just be polite and go along. She would shut that kind of behavior down immediately.
Starting point is 00:18:34 She was a no nonsense kind of person. She was a very beautiful young lady, petite. She's like five feet and 90 pounds or so, and she was so attractive. A lot of guys were going to approach her. And so Dale had the kind of spirit according to this document that when she has no interest in you and you won't leave her alone, she will tell you that she has no interest in you at all. Now, I think that's a pretty good characteristic to have. Mainly because of the reason that we're here right now,
Starting point is 00:19:13 and I'm glad she was that kind of person, because that tells me one thing. It tells me that the chances of one of these people that actually knew Dale and was her friends had anything to do with the disappearance of Dale, didn't we? I could put that to the side. I don't have to focus so much on that. Detective Reese is convinced Dale was taken by a person who she did not know. And that person likely killed her. He also believes that the kidnapping
Starting point is 00:19:45 scenario that the killer or killer's plan that night was well thought out. Detective Rhee says that he has no doubt that during the last few minutes of Dale's life, she was held against her will. The problem is, police just don't know exactly where or when that took place. My position on this, and I'm allowed to have a position because I'm the lead investigator on this, you know what I mean? And so I have to generate in my mind because it's nothing documented yet about how I think things would have happened and why it happened. So if there's a person out there that has something to do with the disappearance of that young lady, I'm on the mindset that that person was a total stranger.
Starting point is 00:20:30 I'm on the mindset that that is the kind of person that if Dale could have helped it, she would never have let that person close enough to her to even touch her, let alone to harm her. The file, the Columbia Police Department keeps on Dale's case is massive. It's not just one evidence box. It is multiple filing cabinets worth of documents and transcripts that line a couple of walls at the Columbia Police Department. The file that's amassed here in this building where we are,
Starting point is 00:21:02 that's sort of like, tell know if you know what this means, old school file, cabinets, full of documents, full of files. Kevin and his team have poured over thousands of pages of transcripts, reports, and interviews that have been done over the years. Many of the people critical to the case, including Dale's friends and the Bouncer at Jungle Gems, have been re-interviewed several times over the years. And Detective Reese said on some reports that her name's he hasn't completely cleared yet.
Starting point is 00:21:40 When you talk about suspects, I don't see anything in the file that as far as I'm concerned Would compare me to say that person is a suspect. I may say that person is a person of interest Then again, I may simply say that person is somebody that I would love to talk to and so that's how I differentiate and separate the people that I'm going to pay ex amount of attention to versus the next one and the next one and the next one. You focus on everybody that you know had nothing to do with this. You're spinning your wheels and you'll be spinning your wheels for a long time. Detective Reece says Dale's case doesn't just sit around and
Starting point is 00:22:23 collect dust in his office. He's actively working different angles and going back to dig through the trove of investigative files all the time. His desk is literally with an arm's reach of the filing cabinets that hold all the case paperwork. He said the whole reason he chose to work in the cold case unit is because he believes solving cases like Dale's are his life's purpose. You've got to get out and you've got to work for it.
Starting point is 00:22:48 You've got to knock on doors. You've got to go in, sneak infested, wooded areas when it's hot as hell out. But we get paid for it. And some of us, we get paid by God for it as well. That's my goal to bring resolution to every cold case that I've ever assigned to. The benefit I think in respect to what benefits the family is simply knowing that you got somebody that actually believes in what they're doing and actually believes that they can do this and actually believes that you believe in the same thing or want the same thing they want.
Starting point is 00:23:36 And that is resolution of case. And in Dale's case, mom and dad they're home. For him, Dale was every other young woman who walks the campuses of USC or grew up in Columbia. She was a bright girl, a good student, and came from a nice neighborhood in the city. Today, her parents, Dan and Jean still live in Columbia, but they have since moved out of the house they raised their kids in. They said Dale's empty bedroom was a daily reminder of their loss and it was just too much
Starting point is 00:24:08 to bear. It was difficult to see their neighbors' children grow up and get married and have children of their own while they were left with an empty hole in their lives. When Emily was in South Carolina reporting on this story, she visited Dan and Jean. Their walls are lined with artwork, Dale sketched, and they showed Emily pictures of Dale riding horseback, a hobby she loved and shared with her mom. The couple hosted Emily for a few hours, sharing memories of Dale and flipping through her old photo albums. Actually, some of those photos are on our website, thedeckpodcast.com, if you want to see them. Jean and Dan are in their 80s now, and you can tell they've
Starting point is 00:24:42 been worn down from all the years of searching for their daughter and doing interviews about her case. In the three decades Dale has been missing, no amount of press her parents have done have resulted in a break in the case. There's just been a few false hopes over the years that have been tough blows. For example, Dan said that one night many years ago, the Dinnwitty's home phone rang. Dan rushed to pick it up, and a man on the other end said, quote, I'm staring at your daughter. Dan said he could tell from the background noise that the man was in a bar, maybe a restaurant, but he didn't sound drunk. He sounded genuine.
Starting point is 00:25:18 The man told Dan that he was at a bar in Wisconsin, and the female bartender looked exactly like the photo of Dale from their missing persons poster. Dan alerted police in South Carolina who asked authorities in Wisconsin to go check it out. Within a few hours, officers determined that the woman was not Dale. They admitted that the bartender looked very similar to Dale, but she was much taller, so even if she lied about her identity, there was no way it was her.
Starting point is 00:25:44 These types of phone calls and false leads became the norm for the dinnities. They're also pretty typical for cold case detectives to vet through. Kevin Reece even mentioned that he fully expects to get some calls after our episode airs. It's just the nature of the job and working such an old cold case. People here this podcast, you'll probably be getting some crank phone calls after that. I don't doubt it, but, you know, if I get a meeting crank phone calls and one of these calls that I thought was crank,
Starting point is 00:26:15 turn out to be the call I'm waiting for, it's all worth it. Every day, Jean and Dan can't help but wonder what deal's life would be like today. She would be in her early 50s by now. She might even have had kids of her own, or grandkids. In 2019, Dale's name popped back into headlines when another college woman was kidnapped from the five points neighborhood.
Starting point is 00:26:40 According to a New York Post story from April 2019, USC's senior Samantha Josephson was abducted and murdered after she got into a car she thought was the uber she ordered. Authorities were able to pinpoint her last few movements and the fake uber she got into, thanks to several surveillance cameras mounted outside of businesses in the five points area. Surveillance cameras that weren't there back in 1992. According to various news reports, the man driving the car that Samantha got into
Starting point is 00:27:08 was Nathaniel Roland. Authorities later proved that he locked her in pretty much from the moment she got inside, then he abducted and killed her. Her body was later found by a turkey hunter not far from Columbia, and police were quickly able to link Nathaniel to the crime because his car matched
Starting point is 00:27:25 the one scene on surveillance footage, and he lived near where he left Samantha's body. According to WLTXTV, Nathaniel Rowland was found guilty of Samantha's murder in July 2021, and he was sentenced to life in prison. The New York Post reported in 2019 that the dinnities spoke out in solidarity with Samantha's parents, and they wondered if they would have had a better idea of what happened to their daughter if only modern-day technology like video cameras had been in place in the five-point area back in 1992. According to Fitznews, the most recent lead that came in on Dale's case was in the fall of 2020.
Starting point is 00:28:03 Around that time, a victim of sexual assault who was a minor told Columbia police that the man who allegedly raped her made a comment during the attack that she, the victim, reminded him of Dale Dinwitty. In the Fitz news article, it says in March of 2021, police served a search warrant on this guy, an attorney from South Carolina. The attorney was charged with several counts of committing loot acts on a minor in 2002 and 2004, but police told the public that the raid and arrest had nothing to do with the din witty case. The department said that while they believed the alleged sex assault victim's story, detailing what happened to her, they had no reason to believe her claims that her attacker said she reminded him of Dale. As you can imagine though, rumors ran wild for weeks
Starting point is 00:28:50 about this possible connection between a politically connected attorney and one of South Carolina's most high-profile cold cases. According to a source, Fitznews quoted for their article on this development, the attorney, who's now in his 60s, was a regular at Jungle Gems in the year 1992. The newspaper even went as far as to say that the man was good friends with a bartender at Jungle Gems, who was working the bar the night Dale vanished. But nothing significant has been reported about this man since police raided his house in March of 2021, and police continue to deny any connections between him and what happened to Dale.
Starting point is 00:29:28 So, like they've been doing for three decades, the dinnities continue to wait. And every time the phone rings, they hope and wish that the person on the other end of the line has the answers they've been waiting for. Information that will put an end to their 30-year nightmare. Detective Reese hopes he can grant that wish. There's a reason you leave a light on on the front porch. They expect you to come home.
Starting point is 00:29:53 The demwitty's expect their daughter to come home. If I got anything to do with it, she'll get home. Yeah. If you know anything about the disappearance, abduction, or murder of Dale Dinwitty, you're urged to call the Columbia Police Department at 803-749-5836, or you can call the South Carolina Crime Stoppers, where a significant reward is being offered. The Dec is an audio-chuck production with theme music by Ryan Lewis. To learn more about the Deck and our advocacy work, visit the DeckPodcast.com. So what do you think Chuck?
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