The Deck - George Jares (6 of Clubs, Wisconsin)
Episode Date: May 28, 2025Our card this week is George Jares, the 6 of Clubs from Wisconsin. From the outside, 43-year-old George was a family man: a former greeting card salesman turned restaurant owner who loved his kids, t...he outdoors, and working hard. But after George was shot three times and left for dead in his restaurant’s parking lot, details of his life began to emerge that painted a rather different picture... And the surprising twists that detectives uncovered led them to suspect that George had been targeted by a hitman. For nearly forty years they’ve been looking for the shooter and, more importantly, the person who hired them.If you have any information about the murder of George Jares in Eagle River, Wisconsin, on August 3rd, 1986, please come forward. You can call the Vilas County Sheriff’s Office at (715) 479-4441 and ask for any officer or detective on duty. Or, if you’d prefer to remain anonymous, you can call the Vilas County Sheriff’s anonymous tip line at 1-800-472-7290.View source material and photos for this episode at: thedeckpodcast.com/george-jaresLet us deal you in… follow The Deck on social media.Instagram: @thedeckpodcast | @audiochuckTwitter: @thedeckpodcast_ | @audiochuckFacebook: /TheDeckPodcast | /audiochuckllcTo support Season of Justice and learn more, please visit seasonofjustice.org.The Deck is hosted by Ashley Flowers. Instagram: @ashleyflowersTikTok: @ashleyflowerscrimejunkieTwitter: @Ash_FlowersFacebook: /AshleyFlowers.AFText Ashley at 317-733-7485 to talk all things true crime, get behind the scenes updates, and more!
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Our card this week is George F. Jaris, the six of clubs from Wisconsin.
From the outside, 43-year-old George was a family man.
A former greeting card salesman turned restaurant owner who loved his kids, the outdoors, and
working hard.
But after George was shot and left for dead in his restaurant's parking lot, details
of his life began to emerge that painted a rather different picture.
And the surprising twist that detectives uncovered led them to suspect that George had been targeted
by a hitman.
For nearly 40 years, they had been looking for that shooter and, possibly more importantly,
the person who hired them.
I'm Ashley Flowers, and this is the deck. At around 1.30 a.m. on August 3rd, 1986, a woman named Marcy in Eagle River, Wisconsin,
was drifting off to sleep when a loud popping noise jolted her out of bed.
It sounded like gunshots coming from just outside her home.
So she ran to the window to see what was going on.
I mean, it was still dark, but she was able to make out a lone figure walking across her
yard away from this local supper club
down the street called The Arbor. That's when she alerted authorities.
Less than three minutes after that call, two city officers responded to the restaurant.
From the sidewalk, there didn't appear to be anything amiss. But as they made their
way to the back of the property, they heard what sounded like someone gasping for air.
Here's former Vilas County Sheriff's Detective
and current evidence tech, Cherise Rosga Anderson.
She was assigned to this case in 2004.
They weren't sure what was going on.
And when they came upon the pickup truck
in the back to the south of the building itself.
They discovered a male laying on his back.
He was still alive.
And I do see an officer notified dispatch at 1.35 a.m.
that they had a victim with a severe head injury
and an ambulance was needed.
So that was within three minutes of the actual call.
Officers immediately recognized the man as the owner of the restaurant, 43-year-old George Jaris.
He moved to the area the summer before to open Arbor,
which quickly became a successful business.
The Arbor was home to Wisconsin's best brandy old fashioned
and served a prize winning prime rib.
But now its owner was lying unconscious on his back and
appeared to be suffering from multiple gunshot wounds to the right side of his head.
As officers called for backup, George was rushed to the hospital.
It was 2.30 AM when George's younger sister,
Lenore Penny Vulchek got the call that her brother had been shot.
She was living in Illinois at the time where they'd both grown up.
It was a crushing blow to me.
After that, I never wanted to answer the phone in the middle of the night because I didn't
want bad news like that.
The next day, she packed up and headed to the Wisconsin hospital where she met her parents,
George's wife Linda, and their two sons, George III and Michael.
George was on life support in a coma when they arrived.
He'd already been through surgery,
but he hadn't regained consciousness since the shooting.
So he wasn't able to communicate with investigators,
which meant that they hoped the crime scene
could do some talking for them.
Here's Detective Rosga Anderson again.
And that's when they discovered the place was all secure.
Doors were locked, no windows were broken.
His vehicle was there.
Keys were in the ignition.
It was unlocked.
Nobody tried breaking into the place.
They could have taken a perfectly good pickup truck.
The keys were right there. They could have taken a perfectly good pickup truck. The keys were right there.
They could have taken his wallet.
They didn't do that.
And then as the officers were spreading
and looking out further, enlarging the crime scene
and looking for more evidence,
they found a pair of aviator sunglasses.
Along the trajectory of where the witness who called it in saw him walking.
And then as they grew their search pattern,
they found a 22 caliber revolver firearm
to the east of the road, like it was just tossed.
Both the sunglasses and the firearm were collected and bagged in plastic.
And not only did the revolver have a serial number, but it also had a latent thumbprint
set into grease near the grip.
This led investigators to suspect that whoever pulled the trigger was probably lying in wait
for George outside of the restaurant near the kitchen's oil and grease deposit.
Detective Rosga Anderson said the revolver had five spent shells in the cylinder and a sixth round
that appeared to be a misfire. From what they saw at the scene, investigators assumed that three
bullets had struck George. One had struck and shattered the window of his truck, and one had
completely missed.
At the time, no testing was done with the sunglasses, but the revolver was sent to the
FBI crime lab for fingerprint analysis.
But unfortunately, by the time that it arrived, the grease print had actually melted in the
plastic bag.
Investigators had photographed it beforehand, but the image quality wasn't good enough
to enter anything into a database.
Now, as for a serial number on the gun,
detectives were able to trace it back
to its original purchaser, a woman in West Virginia.
But according to Detective Roska Anderson,
it had been stolen from that woman's house in 1974,
a full 12 years before the shooting,
which pretty much ruled that woman out
and made tracing the gun to a shooter much more difficult.
Detective Rosga Anderson said that they had located robbers
in that case, the one where the gun was stolen,
but there was never any evidence linking them to this crime.
The revolver was likely moved through underground channels
and could have changed owners dozens of times
before it ended up in the hands of George's shooter.
So that we believe is a dead end. The 22 caliber revolver it was it's used in a
lot of homicides and they had they had no qualms leaving it at the scene. I
don't think it was accidentally dropped like the sunglasses. I think the
sunglasses were probably dropped accidentally but that firearm't think it was accidentally dropped like the sunglasses. I think the sunglasses were probably dropped accidentally,
but that firearm, I think it was tossed.
So with the evidence providing little help,
investigators began canvassing the area in the following days,
talking to Arbor employees and learning more about George.
They started by interviewing George's family
at the hospital on August 4. His wife His wife Linda told detectives that she and George had met in Cicero, Illinois,
where they lived full-time with their two sons, right up until George bought the arbor in the summer of 1985.
According to George's sister, he'd chosen Eagle River because he was familiar with the area.
The Jaris family used to vacation up there, and a number of George's friends from Cicero already had homes in the area. But George made the move out to Wisconsin
on his own, and Linda and the kids commuted the six hours back and forth between the two places.
Linda told detectives that she was planning to move to Eagle River with the kids full-time
eventually, but was just wrapping up some things in Cicero.
Even though it was late,
Linda was actually on a drive back
from one of their trips to Eagle River when George was shot.
Linda told investigators that it wasn't until she got home
that she learned what happened to her husband.
She had just arrived like at 5.30 in the morning
and she got the phone call that her husband was
was shot and was at the Wausau hospital. And I guess she had a friend driver up there.
The rest of George's family didn't really know anything that could help the investigation.
They had been in Illinois at the time of the shooting. But they were all there in Wisconsin
on August 8th when George passed away in the hospital.
With his death, investigators lost their most direct link to the crime, the one person who
might have known who the attacker was.
Here's George's sister, Lenore, again.
I was devastated when it happened and I was very depressed.
I probably should have gone into some kind of therapy
because I was so upset by the whole thing.
I just, I had a problem handling it.
It was like the first death that was ever so close to me.
I mean, my grandpa had passed, my grandma had passed,
but for my brother, you know, to lose my brother
when he was 43 years old to a violent crime,
I just really had a hard time with it.
While Georgia's family struggled to accept their new reality,
investigators were having a hard time ID-ing the shooter.
Even though, as you'll hear Detective Rosgett Anderson say,
many people who were at the arbor that night
thought they'd seen the shooter before the crime.
He was described as kind of a seedy or shady-looking character, a tall, thin white male, and he
seemed really jumpy or nervous, according to the witnesses.
And he wanted to know what time George was getting off of work, because George was bartending
at the time.
He owned the business, but he also worked his own business. And in fact, the person said it was almost like, what time, not what
time are you guys closing, but what time does George get off of work?
So they thought that was kind of suspicious.
Several people at the bar also said this suspicious man had been
driving a red 1970 or 1971 Ford Mustang.
And some people noted seeing a second person in the car, but they had been driving a red 1970 or 1971 Ford Mustang.
And some people noted seeing a second person in the car, but they weren't able to give a description.
According to media coverage at the time,
officers said that they were searching for this red car.
They also had a composite sketch made up,
but it's unclear if that was ever circulated to the public.
Either way, nothing consequential popped up
as a result of their public appeals.
But they had learned more from talking
to the people who knew George.
Turns out, he'd been receiving unusual phone calls
at the restaurant in the days leading up to his shooting.
Reportedly, he had told people, several different people,
and these are patrons when you think it's a small community,
they're the same regulars, right?
And he had told him that he's been getting these phone calls,
like in the evenings, and he would answer,
and there wouldn't be anybody on.
He was a little irritated by the phone call.
There it is again, and no one's on there.
He never told anybody or, you know,
speculated who it might have been. It didn't seem
like it concerned him and more irritated him. It almost seemed to investigators that someone who
didn't know George was trying to learn his routine, finding out what time he usually got off work.
Of course, this was merely a hunch, but that, combined with the untraceable gun and the description
of a shady-looking character in the area, led investigators to tell the local news that
they were looking into professional killers.
Just for clarification, in this next clip, you'll hear Detective Roske Anderson pronounce
George's last name slightly differently than I did, but our pronunciation is based on his
sister Lenore's guidance.
It was almost like a classic hit. They left the 22 at the scene because they knew it couldn't
be traced back to them. And so the question would be who hired that person? And the person And right now that is at the top of the list is Linda Jairs.
Linda and George had been married for over two decades at the time of his murder.
And in that time, George's sister Lenore
had become close to Linda,
but she learned it was hard to trust her.
Linda was the kind of woman that everybody loved her. She got along with everybody. She
was really nice. She put on this great front. She was great with the kids, wonderful cook.
But boy, you could not believe what she would tell you. She was such a liar.
And we were like sisters.
I mean, I'd never had anybody like that.
And boy, we got along so well.
And okay, things were great.
Well, okay.
You know, it was so often you'd hear something.
Yeah, okay.
And as I got older, I realized that she wasn't telling me the truth about everything.
Even I have talked, now I talk to her kids as adults and they both said,
yeah, my mom had a problem with the truth, you know? And I really liked her.
I just couldn't trust her. And she'd stab you in the back.
Our reporter Nicole Kagan asked Lenore directly about Linda's possible involvement in George's
death.
Was this something you thought she could be capable of?
Yes.
Do you remember what your parents thought at the time?
Were they more leaning towards maybe Linda had something to do with this?
Yes.
It took me a lot longer to learn to not trust her.
George wasn't a perfect angel either,
and together, marriage was hard.
Things were complicated by the fact that Linda
didn't want to move away from the Cicero area right away.
The long-distance marriage was taking its toll.
Several of the patrons who were interviewed
that stated that George confided in them
that he wanted Linda up here.
He wanted Linda in Eagle River.
He wanted her to come up here and be a wife.
He wanted her to help her out or help out with the business.
Patrons' friends of George and Linda
did state that George was having an affair or affairs, and
Linda also admitted that.
So they did have trouble with their marriage.
It sounded like it.
But they were trying to make it work, it seemed, as evidenced by the trip Linda had just made
to Eagle River with the boys.
She states that while she was up here from July 30th to the 2nd,
everything went well, gave no indication of any trouble
or problems with anybody or anything.
She did say that George could be obnoxious when he drank,
but again, say there was no longstanding with that type of thing.
Linda said that she left for Cicero with her sons
at around 10.30 p.m. on August 2nd
and after driving for about a half hour she stopped at a Holiday Inn to call the Arbor from
the hotel's phone. She said she needed to reach George because she thought she left her earring
in the bathroom of the restaurant and she wanted him to check for it. But she wasn't able to get
through. So after driving another hundred miles Linda stopped a second time at around 1 a.m. at a gas station to try George again from a pay phone.
And then there was a conversation, there was trouble with the phone, they were
disconnected, she called a second time and got through and then she told George
to make sure to notify the operator that they were dropped. Linda said she got
back on the road and continued on to Cicero without stopping again,
making it home at about 5.30 a.m.
Investigators found that there actually were records
showing that Linda had placed a call from a payphone
two hours away from Eagle River
just 30 minutes before the shooting.
But to them, that alibi seemed almost too convenient. According to Detective Razia Anderson,
Linda was eager to have investigators check the call logs.
Yeah, and I thought that was suspicious.
You know, I mean, is she creating an alibi
that it wasn't her?
You know, at least physically her pulling the trigger.
Was an earring ever found in the bathroom?
No, it was not.
I wear earrings all the time.
I'm naked without them.
So when I never take off this necklace,
and I have never ever taken earrings off,
especially in a restaurant in the bathroom.
I thought that was a little suspicious.
And the elusive earring was not all.
There was another evidentiary detail
that stood out to detectives.
There was talk about a necklace being missing from the body of George that he always wore. He never ever took it off.
Well, it so happened that in the days following the shooting,
that very necklace just turned up on a side tray in George's hospital room.
The same hospital room, the same
hospital room that Linda had been in and out of every day since returning to Eagle River.
No one could prove that she left it there, of course, but in the eyes of investigators,
it didn't exactly help her case.
The theory was, oh, whoever killed him took it off and gave it to Linda as proof of the act was done.
They made it into seriously a very big thing like, oh, that was proof of the death, proof
of the killing.
The necklace was never collected as evidence, though.
Hospital staff turned it over to Linda, who ended up bringing it to the funeral home and
having it placed around George's neck for the service. And in a move you don't see every day, Linda actually ended up bringing the man she was
seeing on the side to George's wake.
She even went as far as to invite him to stay with her, at George's house in Eagle River
with the rest of his immediate family.
Jere's family stayed in the lower level, and her and her one boyfriend stayed in the
upper level.
This was at the wake of her dead husband."
According to Detective Rosga Anderson, George had known about Linda's boyfriend because
she had brought him to Eagle River before, but nothing was ever said about it.
Probably the same way most people didn't say anything about the ongoing affair detectives
uncovered George was having with someone 24 years his junior.
Investigators looked into Linda's boyfriend, but they couldn't link him to the crime.
He was also in Cicero at the time of the shooting.
So though Linda did have a motive with the marriage troubles and the fact that she was the sole beneficiary of George's estate, investigators just didn't have nearly enough
to conclusively say Linda orchestrated the hit on her husband.
In order to charge someone for hiring a hit, prosecutors don't necessarily need to know
the identity of the hitman. But without that, they need rock solid evidence against the
solicitor, like recorded conversations or bank
transfers, none of which could be found in Linda's case.
So maybe she wasn't the solicitor.
I mean, after all, she wasn't the only shady figure that
police had come across.
My brother was sometimes involved in shady dealings.
You know, and I really don't know more than that.
And it was best that way.
Also, you have to understand that we came from Cicero.
And I don't know if you know much about Cicero.
Everything you hear, as far as not so much gangs, but mobs and the way things are run, and it's the machine, and yes, it's all true.
I mean, you read it in the paper and people go, oh, come on.
Well, no, that's how it is.
And that's how it's been all my life.
My parents were not involved in anything like this.
They were not involved in anything illegal like this.
My brother, I was never so sure.
That feeling is he got involved
in something he should not have been involved in
and it got him killed.
George never necessarily told his family
he was connected to mob activities,
but some of his actions
led them to assume it may have been the case.
You see, Eagle River had some mob ties, notably in connection with the Teamsters Labor Union.
Starting in the 60s, the Teamsters Union got famously tied up with organized crime, and
for whatever reason Teamsters members were known to frequent Eagle River.
So landing there, of all places for his restaurant, a bit of a flag later on once they got hip
on the area.
Flag number two was Georgia's side gig, flying planes between there and Cicero.
The reason that he purchased the airplanes was so that he could fly to Eagle River and
he didn't have to drive that seven hours so he could fly.
So I also know that he would take other people up there, one of which I was told was Dorfman,
who was a mob figure.
So there's a connection.
And I don't know, and you don't know what happened to the man, and you don't know
what...
I don't know.
This Dorfman was Alan Dorfman, a prominent figure in Chicago's organized crime circuits,
and particularly the Teamsters Union.
And here's where things start to get weird.
Three years prior, in 1983, Dorfman was murdered in what many have come to believe was an effort
to keep him from talking to authorities about the Teamsters' illegal activities.
His case has never been solved.
And what's more, Dorfman was shot eight times in the head with a.22 caliber pistol as he was walking in
a parking lot, which sounded to investigators a lot like how George had been killed.
If we do take the Teamsters theory, what would the motive be there?
Something about knowing too much or something.
People thought, oh, Dorkman probably told Jare some stuff.
Unfortunately, if George's murder was a mob hit, the investigation
probably wouldn't get much further.
The mob notoriously has a code of silence which bars them from cooperating with authorities,
and it scares off anyone on the outside who might want to offer a tip.
I mean, even George's family is wary of going down this road.
If it was mob-related, we don't want to be involved. And the less I know, the better.
That left detectives with two investigative options.
One, somehow track down a professional hitman from just a police sketch.
Or two, get someone from the mob to come forward.
Neither possibility felt very promising.
So things were quiet for about seven years.
But in February of 1993,
the Vilas County Sheriff's Office got a call
from a police officer in Cicero.
He had just arrested Linda Jaris in a motel room
that she had booked under a fake name.
In the years after George's death,
Linda went on to have a number of legal troubles.
Here's Lenore.
But after he died, she got involved with horse racing.
She got involved with bad checks.
She ended up in Cook County Jail.
She ended up in prison.
I think she was in jail twice, once when the kids were younger.
And again, I can't really, I don't know a lot about it.
This time Cicero Petey had arrested Linda for credit card fraud and forged checks.
The agency had reached out to Vilas County because when they collected Linda's belongings,
they found a suspicious letter that she had written to a friend of hers named Bernard
Soriano, or Bernie.
She had referred in these letters that she was going to prison and how she was not going
to go alone.
She was trying to get money from this person to help her out in her current situation.
According to the officer from Cicero PD, the letter made reference to this male having
to do something with killing someone.
It seemed like Linda had written to Bernie
as some sort of extortion attempt,
a threat to tell police that Bernie had killed someone
if he didn't send her the money she asked for.
A Vilas County detective drove down to Cicero
the very next day to ask Linda some more questions
about this Bernie guy.
Now, Linda told them she had met Bernie
while gambling at a racetrack in 1990.
This is four years after George's murder. She also said that Bernie owed her $112,000
from loans that she'd given him. So then what did she mean by writing that Bernie had
something to do with killing someone? That's what they asked her.
She had no explanation for why she put that
there, but then she explained that the person that she referred as being
killed, quote-unquote, would have been her. She states that what she meant was that
going to prison would kill her and that Bernie would be responsible somehow for
having had her go to prison because he owed her this money and could not repay
it. That's how she explained that.
At the time, detectives did track Bernie down, but it didn't go very far.
Partly because he didn't match
the police composite sketch from 1986,
and partly because Linda claimed
they met after George's murder,
and they took her word for it.
A woman who had just been arrested for fraud
under a fake name.
Bernie passed away in 2022, so unfortunately, there is no asking him about it now either.
While Cicero police had Linda in custody, they also questioned her about another man that she had lent money to,
named Ronald Ghiatto.
According to Linda, she had met Ronald at a Halloween party in 1987, the year after George's murder.
And for some reason, she lent this guy over $200,000.
Detective Roska Anderson says Linda was asked
if she had ever seen Ronald
with anybody that drove a red Mustang.
Her answer was, I can't say yes, I can't say no,
it's possible.
When asked straight on about George's murder, Linda adamantly denied having anything to
do with it.
But when officers asked whether Ronald might have a different answer to that question.
Her answer was, quote unquote, I'm not saying he would or he wouldn't.
That's a possibility.
But again, because Linda claimed that she had met Ronald after 1986,
detectives then didn't really explore him as a suspect.
Detective Rosget Anderson wasn't able to determine
whether or not he was still alive.
So Ronald, if you're out there and listening,
please contact the Vilas County Sheriff's Office.
Now, at this point, little follow-up
doesn't get you very far, so the case went cold again.
After 93, spinning the wheels,
it's now a seven-year-old case
and people are retiring the detective sergeant, he's off the case. Another
detective sergeant retired. And so then there's really, it's, you hate to say it,
but it's not being worked. Okay. And we have limited resources, limited personnel and
new cases come in. If this was the only case, man, we could all be in here working on it, right?
But it's not."
2004 is when Detective Roska Anderson was assigned to George's case.
And when she started going through it, she realized that while Linda looked really good for this,
there was another very plausible possibility,
a suspect that detectives may have been far too quick to eliminate all those years ago.
At the time of the shooting, she was 19 years old, and she was married,
had a five-month-old baby boy, and was pregnant with,
a couple months pregnant with her second child.
She's talking about a young woman named Jamie Goodrum, one of George's bartenders at the Arbor.
Detectives first interviewed her about 11 days after the murder as part of their initial outreach,
but they never flagged anything. According to reports, Jamie had only been bartending at the
Arbor for three weeks at the time of the shooting. But interestingly, after George's murder,
she never returned.
She wasn't fired,
but records indicate that she just never came back.
Looking into her, there were a few key details
that stood out to Detective Rosga Anderson.
For one, Jamie had been arrested in 1985 for arson.
The charges were ultimately dropped or downgraded,
but that same year she was arrested again
for issuing worthless checks and placed on probation.
And listen, whatever, people get in trouble and I might cold turkey drop a job where my
boss was killed in the parking lot too.
None of that is what stands out most.
What stands out is what patrons at the Arbor were saying about Jamie and George,
that the two had quote,
"'more than just a casual relationship.'"
Apparently the teen and the then 43 year old
had been seen out together after work a number of times.
Jamie didn't work the night that George was shot.
She told detectives that she had a picnic
with her husband
and baby and then went straight to bed at 8 p.m.
And she actually wasn't supposed to be working
that night either, but she did come in anyway.
And when she did, she was acting really weird.
At the time, Jamie told detectives that it was because
she had stolen money from the restaurant,
which seemed to satisfy them because they never tried to interview her again,
even after May 2, 1987.
And what Jamie did on this date is extremely disturbing.
It was nine months after George's murder when the Vilas County Sheriff's Office
received a report that Jamie's young sons had been kidnapped.
She told officers that she was driving home
from the grocery store with her boys
when her car started having trouble, so she pulled over.
And then someone in a van pulled up next to her,
put a cloth over her face, causing her to pass out.
When she came to, her kids were gone.
Officers weren't able to find tire tracks, footprints,
or any
other evidence to corroborate this story. Not just the kidnap on the side of the
road part, like any part of her story. I mean, workers at the grocery store said
that Jamie wasn't with her children while she was shopping. Now the next day,
Jamie's sons' bodies were found near a logging road, and they were gagged, bound,
and bludgeoned
to death.
And shortly thereafter, Jamie confessed to killing them both with a hammer.
She claimed that it wasn't planned, and that when she did it, it was as if she was watching
herself in a bad movie.
She was convicted of the murders six months later and sentenced to life in prison. So that was another unbelievable thing in here.
Very, very manipulative.
And so yeah, so that was like, holy cow.
So in June of 2006, Detective Rosga Anderson and the county sheriff went to interview Jamie
in prison.
She was very cooperative and told them
she had no involvement in George's murder.
And despite everything they knew she was capable of,
they came away with the sense
that she was telling the truth.
Our reporter Nicole reached out to Jamie in prison
for comment, but as of this recording,
she has not responded.
We just wanted to make sure
we could possibly eliminate her.
We're still going with the Linda probably is the number one, you know, where it wasn't
her technically doing it, but you know, her possibly hiring somebody.
That same year, Detective Roscoe Anderson also tried to make contact with George's
sons, Michael and George III.
She wasn't able to reach either of them directly,
but she did get a hold of Michael's wife at the time,
Kelly Jaris.
Kelly said that Michael's memories
from the night that his dad was shot are very limited.
He recalled leaving Eagle River for Cicero,
but not much else.
But she also told Detective Roska Anderson that she and Michael believed that Linda was,
quote, the number one suspect, and that they worried about what she might be capable of,
especially when it came to their three young children.
Neither Michael nor George III wanted to participate in this episode.
According to Lenore, they don't like to discuss the case.
So back at the time, Detective Rosgett Anderson moved on
from people to evidence.
Vilas County still had the sunglasses and the revolver.
And today, Detective Rosgett Anderson said,
sunglasses are an evidence tech's dream.
You wear glasses, whether sunglasses or reading glasses
or whatever glasses, you know, you've got the nose here
behind the ears, you're just sloughing off cells and stuff.
Every time you enter a room,
you're probably shedding some of your DNA.
And you know, you sweat whatever
and you push the glasses, the nose piece back up.
So that's the areas that you would love to look for DNA.
But unfortunately, the way that it was packaged
and processed, right, the DNA was compromised
if there was any DNA, which I'm sure that there was,
especially on those sunglasses.
Both of these items were bagged in plastic,
which seemed to be standard protocol in the
80s, but today that is a big no-no.
According to Roska Anderson, who teaches an evidence class for police recruits, bagging
items in plastic is detrimental to preservation, because plastic bags trap moisture, degrading
any biological matter and causing mildew and molding, which makes DNA
testing nearly impossible. Though the physical evidence was compromised, Detective Roska
Anderson still submitted it to the lab. That was the first time the gun was brought,
it was submitted for DNA. So I'm waiting, patiently waiting, and I get a phone call from the crime lab that there was a hit. And I'm like, yeah, a male profile.
I'm like, awesome.
And I don't know how long later it ended up being the lab analyst.
He called, he's like, it was me, I'm sorry.
And they wear gloves and the mask, but you know what?
It's just how sensitive DNA is, you know?
And he could have coughed, you could have been talking over it,
you know, we're told not to ever talk over evidence or whatever.
So that was, it was, you know, you get such a high, it's like, yes!
And then it's gone.
That just left the detective with a photograph of the grease thumbprint.
She hoped that with new technology, the lab would be able to enhance it enough
to run it through APHIS, but no luck.
The photograph of the print was sent to the crime lab again
in 2023 with the same result.
Though Detective Roska Anderson is holding out hope
that one day with new technology,
it will allow sufficient enhancement of the thumbprint
and she'll be able to match it to someone.
And she's hoping that our listeners might help point
to that right someone.
It has been 38 years since George was murdered
and Vilas County hasn't gotten a tip in this case
since 1993.
Plus, time has run out on pursuing Linda
because she passed away in 2023 at 80 years old.
Unfortunately, we haven't had a tip in so long. And so it would be nice with the podcast that if
anybody hearing this, you know, likewise with the playing cards, you know, you're hoping
to stir some memories up. Because with time, as you've heard many, many times
from other officers, you know, I mean,
people pass away, they lose their memories.
And then on the officer's part, you know,
we get new cases and you can only dedicate so much time.
And so, yeah, so hopefully this will stir up something new.
With all the time that's passed, Lenore has really struggled to stay hopeful I'm not going to be able to do it. I'm not going to be able to do it. I'm not going to be able to do it.
I'm not going to be able to do it.
I'm not going to be able to do it.
I'm not going to be able to do it.
I'm not going to be able to do it.
I'm not going to be able to do it.
I'm not going to be able to do it.
I'm not going to be able to do it.
I'm not going to be able to do it.
I'm not going to be able to do it.
I'm not going to be able to do unnecessary. I wish he was here.
He was, you know, he was a good man.
He was very smart, hardworking, hardworking man.
All I can say is it took a long time to get over it
and are you ever over it?
If you have any information about the murder
of George Jaris in Eagle River, Wisconsin
on August 3rd, 1986, please come forward.
And please don't think, oh, it's just something little, because you know what, sometimes those
little things or you think it might be minimal or trivial, it could be a huge, it could be
the break that we need.
You can call the Vilas County Sheriff's Office at 715-479-4441 and ask for any officer or detective on duty.
Or if you prefer to remain anonymous, you can call the Vilas County Sheriff's Anonymous Tip Line at 1-800-472-7290.
And just a reminder, the Vilas County Sheriff's Office
is still looking for Ronald Guiado.
So if you are out there or know him,
please have him reach out.
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