The Deck - Maurice (Melissa) Dupree Green (Ace of Spades, Arizona)

Episode Date: July 16, 2025

Maurice – or Melissa, as they sometimes introduced themselves – was 22 when they were shot and killed in Phoenix, Arizona. They were just starting to build a name for themselves as a performer, ma...king it to the regional final for American Idol and acting in dozens of local productions, including The Wiz, Westside Story, and Alice in Wonderland. But the curtain fell too soon…According to friends and family, gender identity was fluid for Maurice. They sometimes presented as femme and went by Melissa, as they did the night of the shooting. This led both LGBTQ+ activists and local officials to fear that maybe this was a hate crime. Maybe… But investigators have struggled to pin down a definitive motive – and the killer.If you have any information at all about the murder of Maurice Dupree Green, also known as Melissa, in March of 2006, please come forward. You can reach Detective Roestenberg directly at 602-534-5920 or the Phoenix Police Department at 602-262-6151. And if you’d prefer to remain anonymous, you can also call the Silent Witness tip line at 480-948-6377.If you or someone you know is affected by anti-LGBTQ+ violence or in need of support, you are not alone–help is available. For immediate crisis support, The Trevor Project offers 24/7 assistance for LGBTQ+ youth at 1-866-488-7386 or by texting START to 678678. You can also contact the LGBT National Help Center at 1-888-843-4564 or visit lgbthotline.org.View source material and photos for this episode at: thedeckpodcast.com/maurice-melissa-dupree-green Let us deal you in… follow The Deck on social media.Instagram: @thedeckpodcast | @audiochuckTwitter: @thedeckpodcast_ | @audiochuckFacebook: /TheDeckPodcast | /audiochuckllcTo support Season of Justice and learn more, please visit seasonofjustice.org.The Deck is hosted by Ashley Flowers. Instagram: @ashleyflowersTikTok: @ashleyflowerscrimejunkieTwitter: @Ash_FlowersFacebook: /AshleyFlowers.AFText Ashley at 317-733-7485 to talk all things true crime, get behind the scenes updates, and more!

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Our card this week is Maurice Dupree Green, the Ace of Spades from Arizona. Maurice was 22 when they were shot and killed in Phoenix, Arizona. They were just starting to build a name for themselves as a performer, making it to the regional finals for American Idol and acting in dozens of local productions, including The Wiz, West Side Story, and Alice in Wonderland. But the curtain fell too soon. According to friends and family, gender identity was fluid for Maurice. They sometimes presented as femme and went by Melissa, as they did the night of the shooting,
Starting point is 00:00:38 which led both LGBTQ plus activists and local officials to fear that maybe this was a hate crime. Maybe. But investigators have struggled to pin down a definitive motive. And with the lack of that, a killer. I'm Ashley Flowers, and this is The Deck. Music On March 21st, 2006, a security guard named Fidel was stationed outside a Central Phoenix apartment complex. It was shortly after midnight, and he was taking care of some routine paperwork on the trunk of a car.
Starting point is 00:01:45 The streets weren't any busier than normal, but from where he stood, he could see a woman walking alone on a nearby sidewalk. And then, out of the corner of his eye, he saw a man running towards her. Fidel watched as the man caught up to her, walked with her for a few steps, and then for no apparent reason, shot her in the back and ran away. Immediately Fidel grabbed his phone and started toward the victim. And just as he did, he saw another man
Starting point is 00:02:12 running towards her as well with his head in his hands. When this man noticed Fidel, he abruptly changed course and started towards him urging Fidel to call 911, which he was already in the process of doing. Two patrol officers responded as more calls came in from other eyewitnesses. When they arrived at the scene, police found the victim lying in the roadway,
Starting point is 00:02:32 already dead from a single gunshot wound to the back. Detective Dominic Rosemburg, the lead investigator on the case today, explained that the crime scene didn't give the Phoenix Police Department much to go on, just a single 380 spent shell casing. Fortunately though, there were a handful of people in the area who saw what happened,
Starting point is 00:02:53 including the man who told Fidel to call 911. His name was David and he was actually friends with the victim who he identified for police as Melissa. According to David, he and Melissa had been walking together, but they had just parted ways. Melissa went off in one direction, him in another, and she was crossing the street when he said two men approached her, and then all of a sudden there was a loud popping sound and David turned to see Melissa fall to the ground as the suspects fled.
Starting point is 00:03:24 While David was able to tell the police what the two suspects were wearing, he wasn't close enough to describe their faces or identify them. Neither was Fidel, who only saw one suspect from behind. But a third eyewitness, a man named Jose Lopez, had a better view. Jose was standing outside of his apartment building,
Starting point is 00:03:43 smoking a cigarette at the time of the shooting. And he claimed to have seen exactly who fired the gun that killed Melissa. You know, in his words, he was 100% positive that it was Caesar. I don't know how close they were, but not close enough where he could drive us to his home or tell us what kind of vehicle he drove
Starting point is 00:04:01 or how we could locate him or his last name. That was Detective Rostenberg. or tell us what kind of vehicle he drove or how we could locate him or his last name. That was Detective Rothenberg. He said that at the time, this potential ID by Jose was huge. But without a last name or anything more to go off of, they had a hard time finding this Caesar. So there were several,
Starting point is 00:04:22 we do what's called crime analysis in the area. We knocked on several doors. Who's Caesar? Does anyone use the nickname Caesar? They were able to identify two or three people with a similar type name. Photo lineups were generated of these people and presented to Jose. On what nothing really led to much. He was unable to identify any of them. and what nothing really led to much. He was unable to identify any of them.
Starting point is 00:04:51 Police hoped that Melissa's family could help them. But first, they had to break the terrible news to Melissa's mother, Cece Green. Around four o'clock, I said, knock at the door. You know, the police gonna knock down, you know. There was a banging at the door. And so, like, of course, it's not gonna my door like that. So I get up, of course, to go see what's going on. And then it came to the door.
Starting point is 00:05:14 They said, they said, do you know Melissa? I said, yes, my son. They said he was gone." You'll notice that CeCe says Melissa and her son all in the same breath. Friends and family are fluid when they talk about Maurice Melissa's gender identity, because that's how Maurice Melissa was in life. Back in the 2000s, the idea of gender fluidity or being non-binary, like those terms weren't widely recognized or understood.
Starting point is 00:05:49 So folks who didn't identify strictly as their sex assigned at birth might not have had the language to fully capture their experience. Now, Cece told police that she had last seen her son the night of the shooting getting ready to go out with David. But looking back, she remembered the interaction seemed odd. So he came upstairs and he says, mom, I'm going to go out. I said, okay, Maurice, go out and have a good time. I'll see you later.
Starting point is 00:06:16 So I'm watching TV and then he came back in about not even a minute later. He says, mom, you think I should go out tonight? I said, Maurice, yeah, if you want to go, that's up to you, you know, go and have fun or you want to stay home. He says, hmmm, and he looked at me. So I went back out. And then the third time he came up, it's almost like they were downstairs saying, hey, come on, let's go, you should go, man. Like he didn't know if he should go out or not. Like he knew something was going on or something was gonna happen or something.
Starting point is 00:06:53 Even with a bad feeling, Melissa finished getting ready and said goodbyes and left the house to go out with David. At the time, David told detectives that he was accompanying Melissa because there was a group of people who had been harassing or bothering her, and he wanted to go out with her to try and keep her safe. But Cece said that she wasn't aware of any sort of harassment taking place, and neither were police. Detective Rothenberg said that no formal complaints had ever been filed. There's no information that I have that, you know, he was scared of anybody, that, you know,
Starting point is 00:07:27 he had an order of protection or an injunction against anybody or he had a problem with his neighbor or whatever, wherever that it could be. We have no indication of that. And yet, less than an hour after saying goodbye to her family, Melissa was shot and killed at point-blank range. At autopsy, the cause of death was determined to be a single bullet to the thorax. There were no defensive wounds or foreign DNA found, and the toxicology report revealed the
Starting point is 00:07:56 presence of both amphetamines and methamphetamines in their system. Detectives also learned that, unfortunately, there was no DNA on the 380 shell casing found at the scene either, and a forensic search revealed that it could have been shot from at least three or four different types of guns. The casing was entered into NIBIN, the Federal Ballistics Database, but it didn't match any projectiles or firearms from any other known crime scenes. So a couple of days into the investigation, all detectives had to go off of was the lone first name
Starting point is 00:08:30 they got from their eyewitness, Caesar, and no clear motive for the crime. According to Detective Rothenberg, investigators had several theories at the time. They wondered if Green could have owed somebody money, or maybe it was a random crime of opportunity. According to detectives, the street where the shooting took place was sort of a remote hub for illicit activity at the time. But for Green's friend, Gina, who works
Starting point is 00:08:55 for an LGBTQ plus advocacy group based in Phoenix, the motive was clear. I mean, we definitely felt that it was a hate crime, that the person that targeted Melissa was doing so because it was Melissa. Because it's easier to kill someone that doesn't conform to society. It's much easier to do that than it is to choose someone else. And they were also chicken, because if I remember, they shot Melissa in the back, you know? Gina's point is backed up by statistics.
Starting point is 00:09:39 Studies have shown that you are nine times more likely to experience violence if you are an LGBT person than if you are not. And queer people of color specifically experience disproportionately high rates of violence. Particularly at that time, I would say, because of the atmosphere, most LGBT people were very subdued. You had your days where you were sad because we weren't in a very accepting world at that point. And here was this kid who came in full of energy, full of life, full of hope.
Starting point is 00:10:20 And he had been in foster care. He was a young man of color. He was gay. And it was just, he had every right to be angry or upset with the world. And that's not what he chose. I mean, he definitely, and he did this. He definitely had to choose every day. I am going to hope for the best.
Starting point is 00:10:55 I'm gonna be the best person that I can be today. And like I said, he didn't, he always encouraged other people. He never brought anybody down, but everything else played against him. — Included in the things that were working against them at the time was the reporting on the shooting, which made use of harmful language and anti-trans slurs. Everything in the media became about Maurice Melissa's identity, and it overshadowed the tragedy of their death.
Starting point is 00:11:23 — In the mainstream media, it was sensationalized. identity and it overshadowed the tragedy of their death. And the mainstream media was sensationalized and so they never reported on what a wonderful person this kid was. And I think that was the saddest part is that it all got, everything got lost. His personality, the fact that he was always encouraging of others, he was positive, his love of musical theater, his love of acting, all of that that made him who he was, you know, just, it got pushed to the side and it just became a story about someone who was born male that trust is a female.
Starting point is 00:12:13 Gina and Maurice first met when Maurice started going to meetups at One in 10, the LGBTQ plus advocacy organization where Gina was a founding volunteer. They immediately connected over their shared love of musical theater, and Maurice started coming in weekly, routinely bringing in other LGBTQ plus youth that they'd met.
Starting point is 00:12:32 And it didn't take long for Gina to see just how special a person Maurice was. I mean, I hate to use the word bubbly, but if there was anyone that would epitomize someone who's bubbly, it would be Maurice. He was always, always coaching other young people to embrace themselves more, or, you know, you're great, you're fantastic, and trying to build everybody up. Maurice particularly liked to spread joy through performing. They were constantly singing and dancing to and with those around them. And Cece says
Starting point is 00:13:11 that Maurice had big dreams. Just a loving young man, just loving, ambitious, wanted to make it, wanted to be somebody. Had plans and to get us off, you know, out of poverty, and he was gonna buy my house, and I'm gonna do this, and I'm gonna do that. And he loved it, just, you know, just wanted to do better. Wanted to be better, want to entertain people. He wanted to, he loved singing, loved Mariah Carey, he loved it. Maurice went into foster care at a young age,
Starting point is 00:13:43 but still continued to see Cece as they grew up. Then at 18 years old Maurice came out to Cece. It was hard at first to accept you know your son being gay but I just learned to love him for who he is and would go shopping sometimes. And being at 20, he started dressing up. And he would get dressed up and go as Melissa on the street and go out to clubs and with his friends and stuff, especially on the weekend. Most of the time, he would dress as Maryse.
Starting point is 00:14:19 But most of the time, it's like on the weekends, he's Melissa. So it was hard sometimes to accept that. But I loved him no matter what. That's my son, that's my son. Against so many odds, Maurice went off to college at Northern Arizona University. But once there, they began to struggle
Starting point is 00:14:37 with substance use disorder. And when Maurice returned from school, unable to sustain the habit or find permanent housing, Maurice turned to odd jobs and eventually sex work. Gina told our reporter Nicole Kagan that leading up to the shooting, Maurice hadn't been coming to One in Ten as often. Did you at the time know anything about Maurice's involvement in sex work? Did that ever come up in any meetings or conversations? No, because like I said, Maurice had been gone for a few months and so that had not
Starting point is 00:15:14 come up. I know later on they reported drugs or whatever and I never ever saw Maurice high or acting like he was on drugs. Cece, on the other hand, was aware of the sex work and the substance use. But it didn't make the news of her son's death any less surprising or painful. And you never wish they were going to die before you. And just to know someone would come and shoot him, you know, he doesn't deserve that.
Starting point is 00:15:48 He didn't deserve that. While police struggled to make headway in Green's case, the community rallied around the Green family, organizing and attending candlelight vigils near the intersection where Melissa was shot. And then on May 5th, just over a month and a half after the shooting, investigators got an unexpected break. And it all stemmed from a routine traffic stop.
Starting point is 00:16:22 Officers had pulled over a car and in the passenger seat was David, like David who was with Melissa right before the shooting. And at some point during the stop, David apparently pulled one of the officers aside as the driver was being questioned. David asked to independently, privately speak to one of the officers at the scene. And at that time, he said he had information on this homicide and he wanted to speak to one of the officers at the scene. And at that time, he said he had information on this homicide, and he wanted to speak to one of the detectives assigned to the case. He whispered that it was his boyfriend that he believed was involved in Green's death, and he provided the name of Benacio Mata, Jr. Detectives hadn't heard of Benacio Mataata Jr., aka Benny, before David whispered his
Starting point is 00:17:08 name to police. So they had a few follow-ups for David. For starters, why did he wait almost two months to come forward with this information? I mean, he'd already been interviewed three times by that point. He had ample opportunity to tell investigators about this Benny guy. So why now? Well, David said now he and Benny had just broken up after a rocky relationship. Police reports filed by David with the Phoenix Police Department detailed just how rocky. According to those, David said Benny had assaulted him and that he knew Benny owned a small semi-automatic pistol.
Starting point is 00:17:48 When asked why he thought Benny killed his friend, David said that coincidentally, just four days earlier, Benny told David that he'd committed the murder. David said they'd gotten into an argument and at one point, Benny said, quote, "'Too bad I missed you.'" Which David took to mean that the bullet that killed Melissa that night was really meant for him. Now, our reporter, Nicole, connected with David, but he declined an interview saying that it was just too hard to talk about that night.
Starting point is 00:18:18 Now, the traffic stop eventually wrapped. David was sent on his way and a BOLO or a Beyond the Lookout alert was put out for Benny so that if any officers came across him in the state of Arizona they would know to bring him in. But for some reason that was pretty much the extent of their follow-up. Detective Rostenberg wasn't on the case yet and it's not clear from the police file why there wasn't more of an active effort to try and track Benny down. And we know that detectives didn't have any interaction
Starting point is 00:18:47 with Benny at all until over two months after this whispered tip, when the silent hero of this story, routine traffic stops, put their guy right in front of them. This next one happened on July 13th. That's when an officer pulled Benny over, ran his information, and saw that Benny was a person of interest in a murder. But per the police report, quote, the interview of Mata was postponed and he was released
Starting point is 00:19:18 until additional investigation is completed, end quote. What additional investigation needed to be completed? It didn't say. The reason why he was released at the time, there was just no probable cause to support him being arrested or transported for questioning. So if he just says, you know what, listen, I don't want to talk to the police. I don't want to be involved in this investigation. We really were, you know, our hands are tied at that point.
Starting point is 00:19:48 So we do the best we can. We get the best biographical information on him. We take, you know, new photographs of him, document what he's wearing, his clothing, his physical description, and kind of we just had nothing really at that point to detain him or arrest him." They did eventually go looking for him though. A month later, detectives went to Benny's mom's house,
Starting point is 00:20:13 but there was no answer at the door so they left a business card and requested a call back. And I bet they wish they would have hung around because by the time they got back to the station there was a voicemail from Benny saying that he got the card and he would try calling them again tomorrow. But tomorrow came and went with no call. And it doesn't seem like the detectives ever tried reaching out to him again. They clearly did still have him on their radar though. Because a full eight months after David first gave police Benny's name, a new photo lineup was prepared for Jose,
Starting point is 00:20:50 the original eyewitness that they had from the scene that night. And this lineup included Benny's photo, but Jose did not pick him out. Now granted, it was almost a year after the shooting, which had occurred at night in the dark. But detectives didn't really have anyone else to turn to. He was really the only one identified at the scene that was
Starting point is 00:21:12 claiming that he could ID David said he couldn't ID. So we were reliant on Jose at that point to help us with identifying a possible suspect. Nowadays, we know that eyewitness accounts can be both manipulated and distorted by stress, the passage of time, or a handful of other factors. And I mean, people have been straight up wrongfully convicted based on eyewitness testimony.
Starting point is 00:21:40 But back then, even though the circumstances of Jose's eyewitness account were less than ideal, detectives took Jose's inability to pick out Benny's photo from the lineup to mean that Benny must not have been involved in the murder. And so at least at the time, nobody thought to continue down that path. And without any other leads, the case went into limbo. During this time, Cece was holding the police department accountable. Along with continuing annual vigils to commemorate her child alongside friends
Starting point is 00:22:12 and family and city councilmen and LGBTQ plus allies and activists, she would call detectives every three months asking about Maurice's case, making sure it was still being investigated. And she passed along any tips that she might have had. And she and her other son, Marcus, continued to visit Maurice's grave together. My son can no longer live on Earth. You know, he can't drive a car, or he can't get married, have children, and go finish college up
Starting point is 00:22:42 and finish his career up. And you don't get to see him knock on the door no more. I don't get to see love notes under the door or hear him sing to me or no music. You know, we don't get that. We don't get that. We don't get to go to graduations or you don't get to drive a car. What we get to do is visit a graveyard. That's what we get to do. We get to. That's what we get to do. We get to put flowers there. We get to visit him there.
Starting point is 00:23:09 We don't get to hold him. We don't get to talk to him. We don't get no conversation going back and forth no more. Nothing will bring her son back. But answers and holding someone accountable sure would go a long way toward healing for Cece. And in 2009, the investigation came the closest it had ever been to those answers,
Starting point is 00:23:31 thanks to, guess what? Another traffic stop. Now this traffic stop didn't happen in 2009. It happened all the way back in June of 2006, just three months after the shooting. So there's two males in the vehicle. The driver of that vehicle is Jesus Alfredo Burgos. The front seat passenger is Oscar Figueroa.
Starting point is 00:24:00 So a search of the vehicles conducted, which included the trunk. In the trunk, there which included the trunk. In the trunk, there's a shoe box. Inside this shoe box, a single 380 spent casing is located. This casing is collected and impounded as evidence and submitted to our lab for testing and entered into a national database. At the time, that is sort of where the story ended.
Starting point is 00:24:26 Neither man was brought in for questioning. But in 2009, that's when everything changed. So three years later, we get a hit. Detectives are notified that this casing matches the casing collected at the Green Homicide. Both those casings were fired from the same weapon. And so we really thought at that point that we may have had a break in the case.
Starting point is 00:24:53 As for why it took so long for the system to return this match? It was just, it's entered and it's just, and I have no idea. No idea. But it doesn't hit till three years later for unknown reasons. When pressed, Detective Rothenberg's best guess was that there was most likely just a processing delay.
Starting point is 00:25:17 The casing would have been impounded at the police station, then sent to the lab when someone had the chance, then tested when the lab when someone had the chance, then tested when the lab tech got around to it, and then finally uploaded to the database. It should not have taken three years, but for whatever reason, it did. Detective Rothenberg said his agency has since implemented new procedures to expedite tests like these. Regardless of the time lapse,, back then with this match,
Starting point is 00:25:46 detectives now had to track down the two men who were in that car, Jesus and Oscar. They also did a background search on both men to see if they had any associates in common with the name Caesar. And lo and behold, they did. A man named Julio Cesar Garcia, and that's Cesar with an S, who some people might confuse as Caesar. All of them were eventually interviewed by police and they all denied involvement, denied knowing the victim,
Starting point is 00:26:20 denied being involved in the shooting. One of them provided a very vague account of the casing being collected from a shooting scene involving gangs as a souvenir. His story just really didn't make sense. The story was that Oscar and his cousin had been shot at by a rival gang, and they had picked up one of the casings
Starting point is 00:26:47 to commemorate the moment because it was their first time being shot at. During his interview, Julio also denied ever going by his middle name, Cesar. He told detectives that no one ever called him that, and that he had never been to the intersection where Green had been shot. Detectives asked Julio if he would submit to a polygraph to prove that he was telling
Starting point is 00:27:09 the truth, to which he said yes, but for some reason no test was ever administered. So six months later, as had become the standard practice in this case, detectives reached back out to their eyewitness Jose about this lead. Jose was presented with yet another photo lineup with all three individuals associated with the traffic stop in it, and unfortunately, he was unable to identify any of them in connection with Green's case. So once again, even though it had been four years since the shooting at this point,
Starting point is 00:27:45 detectives moved on from these three men. And with that, Green's homicide was shelved until 2015 when Detective Rothenberg was assigned to the case. Obviously, I wasn't out there. I didn't respond out there. I didn't know Mr. Green. I didn't know any of the witnesses. So what I do, and this is what I like, it's like a puzzle. I review everything. The reason why we do that is I may see or another detective may see like something that was possibly missed or some item of evidence that wasn't submitted to the labs. And what Detective Rothenberg found was that something was missed, something big. Bonanzio Mata Jr., aka Benny,
Starting point is 00:28:28 still had never actually been interviewed. So Detective Rosenberg set out to find Benny, and after a couple of months, he did. So for the first time since the shooting nine years prior, Benny was brought into the station for questioning. At the time, Benny was unemployed and living on the streets. And according to Detective Rothenberg, it was a tough interview. He was incoherent.
Starting point is 00:29:03 He was slurring his speech. It appeared to me that he was intoxicated. He would randomly cite Bible verses. He was just kind of all over the place, if you will. So it was hard for me to really, you know, find out what was true and what was not true. Benny told Rostenberg that he was not under the influence, nor did he currently use drugs, but it was difficult to know what to believe. Still, he laid out the scenario that David described,
Starting point is 00:29:36 that Benny meant to shoot David, but Melissa got caught in the crossfire. And when I presented that scenario to him and asked him if it was true, he stated yes. But when Detective Rothenberg began asking follow-up questions, Benny started contradicting himself, said he wasn't involved in the shooting and that he didn't even own a gun. So I wasn't sure at that point if he didn't understand the question that I presented or he was being
Starting point is 00:30:06 deceitful or truthful. You know, as investigators, we not only have to look at, you know, the actual words that are being stated, but the disposition of the person being interviewed. He just, the way to describe it, he just appeared under the influence. And I just didn't feel like it probably was the best time to further continue talking to him. Before concluding the interview, though, Detective Rosenberg decided to try one more time with an open-ended question. He asked Benny if he, quote, wanted to give his side of the story. Benny responded that he didn't have a side of the story, and he started citing Bible verses.
Starting point is 00:30:52 When Detective Rothenberg concluded the interview, he left Benny in the interview room, singing softly to himself. And that was that with Benny. On a follow-up call with Detective Rothenberg, our reporter, Nicole, asked why no one ever tried to recontact Benny and get a lucid statement. After that interview, did you want to speak with him again?
Starting point is 00:31:17 No, you know what? So the last time I did talk to him was in 2015. So I believe he's not living in the state. Last time I checked, he moved, and I went out to his old address and he wasn't there. So I still haven't been able to locate him. Okay. And is that something that you are hoping to do?
Starting point is 00:31:37 If I can find him, yes. But we're kind of, when he's just kind of an investigative lead, I can't detain him. Obviously, I can't arrest him. You know, I think it was just based on the totality of everything. He's just an investigative lead. I know his name surfaced early on in the investigation, but it just, it, it, it, I don't think Benny's involved. But I certainly want to talk to him again.
Starting point is 00:32:06 Following that, is there someone at this point you think is a most likely suspect? God, no. In my opinion, based on the totality of everything, the way it went down, you know, there was no word spoken. They didn't have an argument. It wasn't like Maurice was in the street, get out of the street, and they would banter back and forth. He was basically executed in the street.
Starting point is 00:32:28 So I think we knew him, he was targeting him, and he shot him. You know, like he wasn't trying to scare him. He leveled the gun right at him and pointed it directly at him according to the witness and shot him. You know what I mean? So I think he was targeted. I think they had some connection.
Starting point is 00:32:45 At this time, we just have no idea who is. As for the hate crime suggestion, Detective Rothenberg says he can't discount that. But he can't definitively say that that was the motive either. It is absolutely possible. Somebody was just driving by and didn't like the way he looked, didn't like his clothing, didn't like the way, you know, and absolutely he could have been targeted for that. We weren't able to substantiate it, but it's definitely a possibility. So with the motive still unclear, Detective Rosenberg has struggled to find new leads.
Starting point is 00:33:25 We tried to contact Benny, but we never heard anything back. So, Benancio or Benny, if you're out there and listening to this, please contact the Phoenix Police Department. Detective Rothenberg also sent off the 380 casing from the trunk shoebox for DNA testing, hoping for some kind of miracle after all this time. But it didn't come back with anything. And there is no more physical evidence to test. The shooter never made physical contact with Maurice Melissa.
Starting point is 00:33:55 And a murder weapon has never been found. At this point, in my opinion, we need an eyewitness or somebody to, you know, take accountability. You know, come in here and just say, listen, I made a mistake. I was angry. I was upset for whatever reason. Get it off their conscience. Clear their conscience in it. And, you know, take responsibility for the damage they've done to Green and his family. Detective Roestenberg said he feels confident that Green's case is a solvable one. He's just waiting on that one person to do the right thing and
Starting point is 00:34:29 give Green's family closure. Maurice Melissa has been gone for almost 20 years now. The media hasn't covered their case in a decade and the candlelight vigils have waned. But the impact that they have left on family and friends is eternal. For Gina, it's like no time has passed at all. But whenever I hear certain songs, I immediately think of Maurice, you know? And I think of him either singing it to me or singing with me.
Starting point is 00:35:01 And there really has never been a time where I forgot about him. I realized after I spoke to you about Maurice that I hadn't been singing for a while. So I've been, yeah, so I've been putting on musicals and singing again. It's a big stress reliever, you know? Maurice's family honors him in the same way.
Starting point is 00:35:27 Marcus says that he can feel his brother looking down on him whenever he's singing or acting or performing, as he sometimes does as Monica. And he even sings to him at his grave. Go ahead, son. I had holes in my shoes, I was crying in blues, and I didn't have no place to stay. CeCe continues to sing to Maurice at his gravesite too. And now on TikTok as well, where she posts daily. There's actually one special song that she offers,
Starting point is 00:35:57 one that she wrote just for her son. Okay. It'll never be the same Someone took my heart away Left me broken and in pain I'll never forget that day. But true love never fades. And Maurice's own voice lives on as well, in VHS tapes and recordings that Cece has kept and cherished all these years, like this one from when Maurice played Drake in the musical Honk. And the lilies are, the lake are, broad and lush.
Starting point is 00:37:07 We're all living here in clover, and the mating season's over. So there won't be cars for anyone to plush. In our land, both green and pleasant, every mansion duck and pheasant, If they had their woodly walking arm and arm, For our life is good and steady, till we're plopped and up and ready, If you have any information at all about the murder of Maurice Dupree Green, also known as Melissa, in March of 2006 in Phoenix, Arizona, please come forward. You can reach Detective Rothenberg directly at 602-534-5920, or you can call the Phoenix Police Department at 602-262-6151. And if you would prefer to remain anonymous, you can also call the silent witness tip line at 480-948-6377.
Starting point is 00:38:34 Additionally, if you or someone you know is affected by anti-LGBTQ plus violence or in need of support, you are not alone. Help is available. For immediate crisis support, the Trevor Project offers 24-7 assistance for LGBTQ plus U at 1-866-488-7386, or by texting START to 678678. You can also contact the LGBT National Help Center at 1-888-843-4564 or visit lgbthotline.org.
Starting point is 00:39:12 All of this info can be found in the show notes. The Deck is an AudioChuck production with theme music by Ryan Lewis. To learn more about The Deck and our advocacy work, visit thedeckpodcast.com. So what do you think, Chuck? Do you approve?

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