The Deck - Silene Eaddy (3 of Diamonds, South Carolina)

Episode Date: February 16, 2022

Our card this week is Silene Eaddy, the 3 of Diamonds from South Carolina. Silene Eaddy, who sometimes asked people to call her Erica, was known for her sharp wit. She was last seen walking away from... her adoptive mother’s home in Columbia, South Carolina in 2004. Her body was found later, having been beaten and burned and left in the woods. If you know anything about Silene Eaddy's horrific murder, please called Dottie Cronise at the Richland County Case Unit at 1-888-CRIME-SC or 803-576-3000. To learn more about The Deck, visit www.thedeckpodcast.com. To apply for the Cold Case Playing Cards grant through Season of Justice, visit www.seasonofjustice.org

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Our card this week is Selene Edie, the three of diamonds from South Carolina. Selene Edie was a friendly 15 year old girl whose budding teenage years were cut horrifically short in the spring of 2004. Law enforcement investigators in Columbia, South Carolina have been trying to solve this case for 18 years. So to help us understand the ins and outs of this story and learn more about what happened to Selene, detectives took our reporter Emily to the scene of the crime,
Starting point is 00:00:31 which means we're taking you there in this episode as well. I'm Ashley Flowers, and this is The Deck. . It was still light outside at 7.30 at night on Thursday, April 15, 2004 in Columbia, South Carolina when Brenda McCoy heard her neighbor, Veronica, yell from across the street. Your child is trying to sneak out again. Veronica was having a cook out across the road when she saw Brenda's teenage daughter, Selene Edie, leave the house. So to help keep Brenda and the loop, Veronica shouted across the road to inform her what
Starting point is 00:01:35 was going on. At the time, Veronica knew Brenda had been having some trouble with Selene. Brenda had mentioned a few times that Selene had been acting out, not coming home on time, leaving without permission, things like that. Spring up 2004 was just a tough time overall for everyone in the family. Brenda was a widow whose husband Fred had died 10 years earlier, and she'd been trying her best to be a good mother of three. Her children were all adopted or in the process of being adopted, and that included 15-year-old Selene and Selene's 11-year-old brother and 4-year-old sister. Celine had been with Brenda for 12 years, so most of her life, and her little sister was
Starting point is 00:02:12 in the process of coming into Brenda's home full time in April of 2004. Being the oldest of three, going through the thick of her teenage years, and still grieving the loss of her adoptive father, really took a toll on Celine. And that's why she began acting out. Senior cold case detective for the Richland County Sheriff's Office, Dottie Kronice, said Brenda had been trying to be helpful and supportive of her daughter who was obviously struggling. Celine was adopted by Brenda McCoy,
Starting point is 00:02:38 and I believe it's Frederick Edie. And he died when I believe Selene was about five. And that had from all accounts a devastating effect on Selene. I don't know how often she tried to find her original birth family, but that seemed to be a concern to her. That was noted as possibly being caused for some of the troubles she was having and the difficulties. But losing him, she was just so attached to him that, you know, I guess you go through feelings of abandonment.
Starting point is 00:03:15 Is the only thing I can equate it to. Is it a five and he's gone and he's not coming back. I'm sure Miss McCoy did what she could do to help her through that. But Selene was her own person." Sometimes Selene's behaviors went a little beyond just typical teenage angst and desire for independence, though. In fact, according to police records, Selene had actually run away two weeks before the night of April 15th, when her neighbor caught her. That incident had scared Brenda so much that she'd contacted the police and filed a missing person's report.
Starting point is 00:03:48 That time Brenda had dropped Selene off at a shoe store in town, but when she came back to get her, Selene was nowhere to be found. At the time, Brenda told police that she'd come to the Columbia Police Department and reported her daughter as her runaway because she thought that maybe the cops sitting down in intervening could make the team realize she had to stop taking off. Kind of a put the fear of God in her type of thing. Eventually, Selene did return home, on her own, hours later, and the whole reporting the incident to the police didn't have much of an impact on her.
Starting point is 00:04:17 So fast forward to April 15th, when Veronica caught a glimpse of the teen sneaking out of her family's home, she decided to confront her. Veronica yelled towards Selene to ask her where she was going, and she responded by just sort of brushing it off and saying she wasn't going anywhere. Next thing Veronica and Brenda knew, Celine was gone. Brenda even tried to jog up the street to catch up with her daughter, but she was already too far ahead. Like I said, Celine running off wasn't that unheard of for the family, so Brenda tried not to
Starting point is 00:04:43 worry at first. She thought that her daughter would just come home like she always did later that night. Brenda had told police in previous runaway reports that Celine was overly friendly to strangers and too trusting of people she barely knew. The scary thing was that she wanted to go into town, she'd take a ride from anybody.
Starting point is 00:05:02 And that, I think, probably scared her family and her friends more than anything else. Being 15 has its own aggravations. And that was something her mom said too, is she never took into account that mom used to be 15 and she just don't understand. I used to be 15 too. And I know what you're going through
Starting point is 00:05:21 and she would just slain to not like anybody getting in her face and just would walk off. Like a lot of 15-year-olds think that parents don't know what they're talking about. Now, quick sidebar on Detective Dottie Crowe Nice. Like the bird that flies, it's a nice day. Crowe, nice. Dottie isn't your average cop. The 68-year-old has been a detective since the 1970s. I graduated from University of South Carolina in 1974, August 17th. August 25th of 1974, I started to work here at Richland County Sheriff's Office and was put in juvenile investigations. Despite working thousands of cases in her career, Dottie can rattle off dates, times, and details from memory like it's nothing.
Starting point is 00:06:06 She talks about each murder case, like it's her only priority. She's someone who befriends victims' families and shows up to candlelight vigils, wearing a t-shirt the family made to raise awareness about their loved ones unsolved case. Talking with Doddy is like talking with an old friend, even though she doesn't always love doing media interviews. I wanted to tell you a little more about Dottie because if you become a regular listener of the deck, which hopefully you do, you're going to hear her featured a few times on this show, talking about a couple of different unsolved cases in Colombia.
Starting point is 00:06:36 Even though she doesn't jump at the chance to do sit down interviews, Dottie loves people, and she knows that talking about cases, especially cold cases, is one of the keys to solving them. It's sad, but when you can actually bring some resolution that kind of gives you the motivation to keep going. Like Dutty said a second ago, Selene didn't hesitate to take a ride from someone if they had a familiar face, like someone she knew from the neighborhood. She had no problem asking them for a ride.
Starting point is 00:07:05 We don't know if this is something that Selene did the night she took off from her family's house, but what investigators did know for sure is that after Selene walked away that Thursday night in mid-April, Brenda went back inside after just a few minutes and waited. Night turned into the next morning and Selene still had not come home. Two more nights went by and there was still no sign of her. Because Selene had that previous history as a runaway, Brenda decided not to call the police this time. She was holding out hope that Selene would just show back up. But it's not like she did nothing.
Starting point is 00:07:39 Instead of calling 911, Brenda started calling around to people she thought were her daughter's friends and touching base with other family members to ask if anyone had seen or heard from Celine. But they hadn't. After those two days came and went, it was the weekend, and Brenda was full of dread, but still trying to stay hopeful. But any glimmer of hope that Celine would return home unharmed was dashed, when county firefighters made a grisly
Starting point is 00:08:05 discovery on that Saturday morning. That Saturday, a person driving on the outskirts of town noticed a small brush fire burning in a wooded area. On Saturday morning April 17th 2004, around 10 after 5, there's a phone call to the fire department that there's a fire at the intersection of pincushion and Montgomery on the lower side of Richland County. The fire department responded. They said the blaze was about 40 feet in diameter and they went in, got the blaze out, but as they put the blaze out, they noticed there was a body in the center. That body was lying face down in the woods and had been badly burned. Firefighters didn't
Starting point is 00:08:57 immediately recognize who it was, but from what they saw of the remains, they could tell that it was likely a girl or woman. Right before 6am, firefighters called for sheriff's deputies to respond to the scene and take over. When detectives arrived, they processed the area and transported the bodies to the local medical examiner's office for an autopsy. Here's where science and the record keeping really make a huge difference in this case. The ME had no way of really identifying the body just by looking at it. The fire had inflicted too much damage.
Starting point is 00:09:27 All they could say was that it appeared that in addition to being set on fire, whoever it was had also been severely beaten. Some reports indicate that there was a suit found in the person's lungs, which indicated that they may have still been alive when they were set on fire. But the ME couldn't make that determination, for sure. Today, law enforcement still is not sure of that fact, but remember that Missing Person's report I told you about earlier, the one Brenda had filed with the Columbia Police Department when Selene ran away from that shoe store. Well, that report was still in law enforcement system
Starting point is 00:09:59 on April 17th. It had never been properly cleared after Selene had returned home safely two weeks prior. Thankfully, that report included Selene's description and some identifying marks and features. When the Emmy compared the chart remains to cases of missing persons from the area, the information in Selene's report stood out. Here's Dadi again to explain. They had the information about Selene being a missing person, so they were able to, I think, recognize some of the clothing and what all that she was wearing, supposedly seen last in. And they got her dental records, and through the dental records, they were able to identify
Starting point is 00:10:40 the burned body as that of Selene. Within a few hours of that discovery, Brenda was asked to come in and identify the body to help law enforcement clarify once and for all that the remains did in fact belong to Celine. A necklace her daughter wore with a charm of a shoe on it helped her know for sure. Dottie said that Brenda was devastated,
Starting point is 00:11:01 completely heartbroken, and had a hard time comprehending why someone would do something so awful to her little girl. So much of what I have read on her, it talks about Miss McCoy as being her adoptive mother. Adopted or not, she was mom and mom loved her daughter and lost her. daughter and lost her. You have a child, but in this case she chose this child and there had to be something very special about Selene at the age of three that made her choose this little girl and you know if she was as happy and spirited at three as she grew up to be I can see why. Always that big smile just glad to be there and obviously had a close relationship with Dad. During her interview with us, Dottie brought out her favorite pictures of
Starting point is 00:11:56 Celine, which are still in the Richland County Sheriff's Office case file. You can see some of them on our website, thedeckpodcast.com. In one, Celine is wearing an oversized jacket and hat, leaning over and smiling at the camera. Celine was just a happy 15-year-old little girl. You've seen the picture of her there and her red coat and kneeling down on the ground that her smile just captivates you and she just looks ready for life.
Starting point is 00:12:27 This picture when she was young, it was just so pretty. She just looks so cute in there. Do you know who took this picture? Yeah, her personality really shows. In the days after Celine's murder, Brenda told several local media outlets something that made police highly suspicious that Celine's killer could have been a Columbia local. Brenda was quoted by a few publications stating that Celine had started wearing nothing but red and black clothing, colors associated with a local street gang. Brenda had become worried that Celine had possibly gotten mixed up with the wrong group of friends and was getting into a dangerous crowd.
Starting point is 00:13:10 She said she talked with her daughter about this a few times and tried desperately to intervene and steer Selene back onto a street path, but nothing worked. Selene ended up having to move high schools, and at the time she was killed, she was enrolled in doing well at an alternative high school. Bollie started their investigation into her murder by talking with teachers at that school and trying to crack into Selene's friend group. But everyone detectives spoke with had little information to provide, not because they were unwilling, but mostly because they were just shocked. They couldn't think of anyone who knew Selene that was capable of such a violent murder. They couldn't understand, I think, their reaction was more than shock.
Starting point is 00:13:48 How does this happen to 15-year-old girl in our neighborhood? How does that even take place? Police began to theorize that whoever Celine was hanging out with and whoever killed her likely had some kind of power over her. They could have been older than her and heavily influencing her actions and attitude. A sheriff's office investigator at the time told WISTV QUOTE, she was a child that had a lot of problems. She was searching for a lot of comfort in the wrong places, in the wrong people. People took advantage of her." The more police looked into Celine's life in a days leading up to her murder, the more leads they came across that they had to chase down.
Starting point is 00:14:28 Detectives interviewed a ton of people and pulled the call logs from Brenda's house to see what number Celine had dialed and if anyone had called her. The team had a pretty robust social life, so there had been dozens of calls, two and from different friends all routed through the home's landline. Law enforcement didn't indicate to us in our interview that Selene had a cell phone, but this was 2004, it's definitely possible she had one, but if she did, no one knew about it. Not her mother, not her friends, no one.
Starting point is 00:14:56 After days of sorting through the home's call history and interviewing all of Selene's known friends and acquaintances, detectives were trying desperately to find a very specific type of caller. Someone who might have had a romantic interest in Celine. They thought maybe if there was a significant other person in Celine's life, that person could help shed more light on the situation, but that just didn't pan out. Based on everyone they interviewed, Celine didn't have a crush or any kind of romantic interest at the time of her death.
Starting point is 00:15:23 There were no reports of her sneaking off with an older guy or girl or telling any of her friends that she was leaving to be with someone. So the next and most logical place investigators were left to turn to was the location where Celine's body had been found. The spot is what locals refer to as the lower side of Richland County, a rural area by some railroad tracks.
Starting point is 00:15:51 Doddy and another cold case detective in Richland County named Larry Gainey took Emily to the old crime scene last summer. The exact spot that Selene's charred remains were found back in 2004 is walking distance into the woods from a paved country road. The one critical thing that both Dottie and Larry agree on is that the spot would be really hard to find unless you're someone who's super familiar with the area. That's actually one of the reasons they volunteered to drive our reporter Emily to the area. They didn't think that she could find it on her own.
Starting point is 00:16:21 The area there at Montgomery in Penn Cushion, it's rural. You've got a train track running through there. The houses in that area are far apart. On a Saturday morning, you're not going to have much traffic at all, because there's not going to be anybody going to work, five o'clock in the morning. The trees are dense.
Starting point is 00:16:41 And after just a few hundred yards of walking in the brush, Emily, Larry and Dottie arrived. See that were those things are. That's going to be approximately real nice. Okay. So has this always been pretty, uh, what-ed like this? It was even back then.
Starting point is 00:17:00 Emily took some photos of the site that you can see on our website. When I looked at them, it's pretty clear that it would be really easy to start a fire in the area. There's dry brush and trees everywhere, and according to Dottie, it looks pretty much exactly how it did when Selene was killed. Right next to the closest intersection that borders the woods where Selene was found, is an old overgrown logging road. Larry pointed out the small access road and
Starting point is 00:17:25 he believes that path could have aided Celine's killer or killers. They would have been able to use the logging road to get in and out of the area fairly undetected. The road used to go like up through here. It went back towards where her body was going. It was just, it was like two ruts. And you can only see them from the ground, see them from the ground, she can't. You can tell it today. Dottie has theorized that it's possible the moon might have been full the night Saline was killed. She says that in that part of Columbia, if the moon was bright enough,
Starting point is 00:18:01 the logging road might have been lit up for the suspect. If it was dark though, the killer would have had to bring their own light or use headlights to get them back to where a saline was dumped. Either that, or once again, the suspect knew the area so well they didn't need anything to help them with their sense of direction. It's very secluded. The chances of somebody just driving by and seeing somebody, it's possible. And it may be that somebody did and didn't think anything about it at the time.
Starting point is 00:18:32 And they may even have recognized the vehicle or who was in it, but just discounted it. But that area is woods, it's country. And you kind of almost need to know your way around to get back in there. Well, if you're riding around looking, there's really no houses right here. So, then if you do a play, that's a nice view. The remote nature of the area where Celine was was left and the fact that whoever killed her
Starting point is 00:19:06 wanted to make sure she wouldn't live to tell about what had happened to her are two big reasons why her mother Brenda always believed the killer was someone her daughter knew. And to this day, investigators still agree with that theory. We are still looking at that time span between 730 that Thursday night and 5am Saturday morning and what happened and who she was with and we are getting tips about that. That is still coming into play. Over the years detectives like Dottie wanted so badly to find Celine's killer and give Brenda closure, but unfortunately time ran out.
Starting point is 00:19:45 Her mom, Brenda McCoy, in one of her interviews made the statement that she really wanted this to get solved. And they be dead before that happens is what she said. And sadly, she passed away April 30th of 2020. And it's, it's, it just makes you sad to think that that mom never got to confront the person that took her daughter from her. And it's such a horrific way. Absolutely. You know, what brought them to a point of beating and burning? What was the aggravating, what was the aggravating factor there? Those are critical questions.
Starting point is 00:20:25 Who would have the ability to do such horrific things to a 15-year-old? And more importantly, why? Usually, when there's a fire at a scene, or a body has been badly burned, investigators barely have any evidence to work off of, because the flames destroy so much of the scene. But Dottie says that's actually not the case here. Back in 2004, forensic texts were able to pull enough evidence from the crime scene so that when they do get their suspect, there won't be any doubt. No, I don't think it's going to be. They were able to get some good forensics off of it, so I think, again, corroborating and validating.
Starting point is 00:21:04 So I don't think the fire is going to make a difference one way or the other. Dottie wouldn't go into too much detail, but she said confidently that Richland County is the closest they have ever been to solving the case. And that's thanks to forensic advances and useful tips that have found their way on to investigators' desks. They trickle in, but the last few that we've gotten have been usable. And that's what I'm saying is those kinds of things really add up. And when you look at tips from five years ago and then you get this one that
Starting point is 00:21:38 makes this one look reasonable. And as I said, you're corroborating and putting it together. Which is why hopefully, you know, someone in the community that New Selene, that hung around with her, she had so many friends in so many different places. Again, she was just a very outgoing, friendly child. And that was, I think, part of the problem in the original investigation was she knew so many people trying to get a hold of all these people.
Starting point is 00:22:03 Somebody out there knows something. They may not even realize that they know it. Or they may suspect my buddy over here, he's talked about this a lot, or he seems to maybe know a little more than he should. But yet, they don't really want to believe that their buddy could ever have done something like this. So they don't come forward. I'm hoping that these folks will come forward and at least give us the opportunity
Starting point is 00:22:29 to rule it in or rule it out. What bothers Dottie the most is knowing that Brenda McCoy died without answers. Before she passed, Brenda told the state newspaper that not knowing and all of the unanswered questions were killing her. She said, quote, it's never gonna be easier because I don't know what happened. Now, if I find out what happened, then I can kind of rest my mind."
Starting point is 00:22:52 End quote. You would like to think that when you have a child that's murdered, that you do eventually get to confront the perpetrator. And she never had that opportunity. In this case, it's solvable. We just need a few more cases. If you have any information about Selene Edie's murder, Dottie urges you to come forward. Crime stoppers in South Carolina still has a $1,000 reward available for information that leads to a suspect's conviction. Don't sit home thinking, gosh, I don't really want to bother
Starting point is 00:23:25 them with that. This is silly. Now, pick up the phone, call us. We would be much more thankful if you called us than if you didn't. Somebody out there knows, and I have a lot of faith than our people here, our citizens, that they'll come forward. Something will happen, and they'll come forward. Something will happen and they will come forward.
Starting point is 00:23:47 Either they've grown up and they've got a daughter now that's 15 or a grandchild that's 15 and think about Saline and remember something that they heard or they saw that gave them a little concern back then that they didn't want to say anything. Maybe they'll say something now. Saline, Edie, no matter how misguided her teen years were, did not deserve to die. She deserved to figure out her life like we all do
Starting point is 00:24:12 and have a future. She deserved to go to beauty school and become a hairdresser, which she told her friends and teachers was one of her goals. And her mother Brenda didn't deserve to die, not knowing what happened to her daughter. If you know anything about this horrific killing, it's time to talk. Call Dottie at the Richland County Cold Case Unit.
Starting point is 00:24:33 Help bring the person or people who viciously killed a sweet 15 year old girl to justice. It is long overdue. You can call in any information at 1-888-C or 803-576-3000. The Deck is an audio chuck production with theme music by Ryan Lewis. To learn more about the Deck and our advocacy work, visit thedeckpodcast.com. So, what do you think Chuck? Do you approve? So, what do you think Chuck? Do you approve?
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