The Deep 3 Podcast - 1 Problem Every NBA Team Needs To Solve This Offseason | Ep. 95

Episode Date: June 29, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Just start. Just start talking about the Knicks. Get it over with. I know you've been waiting. We talked about on the stream for a little bit last night, but we had to refrain. Talk about your Knicks. Vegas has already made the Knicks the second favorite to win the title. In my eyes, they're the first. I don't care about boss. I don't care what they just did. We got McKell Bridges. Not only do we have great basketball players, not only do we have an all NBA point guard. We have the power of friendship, which we've seen has elevated the Miami Heat to two finals appearances. If we can just get there and then the actual talent kicks in, that is what you need for an NBA championship. That is what the New York Knicks have right now. And there's still a small, small possibility that Isaiah Hartenstein can be re-signed.
Starting point is 00:00:43 We're going to pay a lot of money, but guess what? James Dolan has a lot of money. And he, for all the things that he is, he's not cheap. So shout out Leon Rose, shout out Jalen Brunson, shout out McHale Bridges, shout out OJNinobee for re-signing. Dante DiVincenzo, amazing content, Josh Hart. Thank you. Listen, do everything that you need to do. I will see you guys in October. Did you know that? October? That's when the season starts. Oh, okay. Like you said, like June, I was like, all right, my bad. Did you know that Dalton Connect is a Laker? Why is he still going with this? Why is he still going?
Starting point is 00:01:17 Oh, my gosh. As you guys see, we are in person here from the same studio we shot last night's draft stream on. So if you guys didn't see that, we did a stream for the entire first round of the draft. It was hilarious. Moe went viral for bringing in this. despair because the Hawks passed up on Alex R. Yeah, man, back in person. Yeah, let's get to it. If you guys are watching on YouTube, do us a favor, drop a like and subscribe, audio platforms, leave five-star ratings, all of that. Yeah, man, we're going to talk about the New York Knicks.
Starting point is 00:01:43 Sadly, something good happened in Domin's life. We have to discuss it as much as we don't want to. And then, as you see about the title, we're going to go through every single NBA team and we're going to talk about one problem and one weakness they need to fix them free agency. Could be a trade, could be assigning, whatever may be. We're going to give every single team at least 30 seconds to shine.
Starting point is 00:01:59 to shine. 30 seconds? At least. There's some teams out there that I'm going to be pushing it, but I'll get to 30. You don't want to talk about the Utah Jazz? I actually want to talk about Utah Jazz. Listen, Charlotte Hornets. I don't think so great about them. Yeah, man, let's get straight into it. McHill Bridges is a member of the Knicks. Like you said, Power Friendship won out. DeVille Nova Boys are one deeper, one more Nova Boy. How do you feel?
Starting point is 00:02:41 So, I don't care what he feels. When this trade broke, me and you were walking to go get pizza. And when it happened, you told me you got the Sam's notification, and it was for what? Four first round picks and a pick swap, I believe. Yeah, to swap. Ridiculous trade? And I'm so happy that this happened for the Knicks, of course, not you, but the Knicks. Don't forget.
Starting point is 00:03:07 Yeah. Yeah. It's still static for sure for you. But I will say, I will say, like, I try to be nice. I try to rep Atlanta today. I try to wear the Braves hat. Don't care. Not rest and piss. Doesn't move at all. But generally speaking, I'm happy that this trade happened because now look at, look at the way the Eastern Conference is heading right now. a team with the most stacked wings possible went ahead and did it and the New York Knicks went ahead and did the same thing. Now they have insane depth with O.G. Macau, Dante Diventonzo, and we're at this point
Starting point is 00:03:42 to where we're talking about Josh Hart being like the seventh guy off the bench. That's crazy. Josh Hart would start on a lot of teams in the NBA today right now. So that death is crazy. I'm happy for them. And this makes them easily right now
Starting point is 00:03:54 like probably the second best team of the Eastern Conference, depending on what the Milwaukee Books decided. There's no probably about it. They have to be second best. Everyone says it on Twitter, the joke is they got a role player super team. This is true. It's not a joke. They have one star player who listen, people have very locked expectations
Starting point is 00:04:10 for Jaylon Brunson now after the last playoffs. People were like, is this a top eight player in the world? Yada yada. He can beat the number one on the championship team. I don't know if it's really true. But either way, they have one legit guy and then 65 really good above average players. The fact that you have like four players as good as OG and Nobie is ridiculous luxury to have.
Starting point is 00:04:28 I find it very, very unlikely that the bucks are able to make any move of any sort that makes them a better team than the Knicks. It's not going to happen. They don't have any flexibility. And at least with the Knicks, like they don't really have any flexibility because they gave all of it up to go get Mikhail Bridges. And so, you know, depending on what happens over the next couple of years, like we'll see how this affects the Knicks in four years.
Starting point is 00:04:51 But that doesn't matter right now because the oldest person. in this core is Julius Randall. Like none of the guys are 30 yet, right? Oh, G. Jalen, McKedder, all like 26, 27, 28 years old. And so you have another two to three years before really everybody has to get paid. Brunton is about to get an extension. And if he signs it this year, it's going to be, I think we did the math yesterday. It's going to be like $13 million less per year than what he could get if you waited until next,
Starting point is 00:05:24 next offseason to sign it. So he potentially is going to be on a discount contract. Dante is already on one of the best contracts in the league. Deuce McBride is already on one of the best contracts in the league. And Mikhail also, Mikhail Bridges, is getting paid like 20 minutes. This video is Tom DiVito on Loyotti's walkout, Summer Jam is amazing. That tweet's perfect.
Starting point is 00:05:43 It says, imagine being able to put Mikhail Bridges and OGNOB on your team's best wings. That is a ridiculous duo. I know McHill Bridges has like a weird sentiment around him because last year he was kind of elevated. to being a star and was not good at it. But actually don't matter anymore, because he's going back to being the best role player in the league. He's going back to standing on that wing,
Starting point is 00:06:02 putting those hands up, waiting for his three, locking on on defense, back in his perfect role. Him and OG might be the two best, not best wing defenders, because there's the Herb Jones in the world, there's other guys that maybe are better at that. In terms of the people that are actually good at offense and actually capable on both sides of the ball,
Starting point is 00:06:19 two of the best two-way wing role players in the league. Yeah. Like, the Celtics have the best defensive backcourt, right like you have drew holiday and derrick white obviously like you said OG and mackerel aren't the like one and two guys the way that that that Derek and and drew are but it sure feels like you have that that kind of combination at the wing position and when you're playing a team like the Boston Celtics who are the cream of the crop right the champions to the favorites all of that you have Jason Tatum you have jaylon brown you have this incredibly versatile team that can beat you
Starting point is 00:06:53 at all five positions, you need versatile defenders. And that's what the Knicks have now. And it's, it lines them up to be the biggest threat to the subjects going into next season. It's going to be fun. It's going to be fun. Yeah, so I'm more interested in the Nets. This team is a team. That actually is true, though.
Starting point is 00:07:10 Like, they are interesting, though. Yeah, I was, yeah. I said it in a way because, like, let's do the NICs. But the Nets, four days ago were hilarious. We were like, the fucking Sean Mark's cooking. They think, remember the past trade deadline, everyone was like trade bridges, trade bridges, rebuild, and they didn't do it because they didn't have their own picks, yada, why they got their picks back. And then in the time they did that, you know, we said they're insane for thinking McHill Bridges is worth the Star Hall that they were claiming they wanted to get for him last year. They turned down plenty of offers that were three picks, great young players, a plethora of fantastic offers for a role player.
Starting point is 00:07:45 We thought he was drunk for thinking that McHill Bridges was Kevin Durant. Apparently he is. He got this ridiculous haul And overnight they went from A Laughing Stock Why aren't they rebuilding to Oh my God, is this the most stacked Tanking Team for next year?
Starting point is 00:07:59 Like they have a great future now Now when you say most stacked Taking team you mean that isn't In terms of just like picks Because through this trade technically speaking They have the worst players They're gonna tank Yeah for sure
Starting point is 00:08:11 But through this Macau Bridges trade now technically speaking All this stem from Kevin Durant And because of the Kevin Durant Trade and also this happening I mean, they have now 9, 10 picks that stemmed from that obviously colossal failed that happened just last year. And they went from being quite literally like the team that is put in the worst position because you have no picks and you are stuck in a position to where you have a very, very mid team, which is a bunch of dudes with redundancies all over the place.
Starting point is 00:08:39 And now they still have even pieces from that KD trade because Cam Johnson's still there. Obviously, like he is rare. It feels like he's rarely on the court, probably on the court half the time. And Dorian Finney Smith Jr. is there as well. So this is probably not even it. And they're going to make even more moves. And, you know, they're just, they got put back on the map. You said they got their picks back.
Starting point is 00:08:59 They got 2025 and 2026, I believe. They're just in time for the Cooper Flag era. Exactly. And you name those two guys, that's probably three more first-on picks over there. Two for Cam Johnson, one for Dorian Finney-Smith. Yeah. They're stacking it up. And we're seeing that the modern NBA is an arm's race for picks.
Starting point is 00:09:15 everyone talks about the value of draft picks and how you have like the OKC Thunder who you can't draft all these guys what are you going to do the Knicks were the same way they just traded fucking five of them for McHale Bridges the way the NBA works now
Starting point is 00:09:28 draft picks aren't just draft picks they're not just young rookies that are coming on your team it's a currency it's essentially you're like buying stock and being going to make trade at a later date like we saw the Spurs
Starting point is 00:09:37 who we'll talk about later trade for 2031 pick it's so they have that in their cupboard of picks for the next seven years you can constantly trade it and move it around the many times you want
Starting point is 00:09:45 The Nets are perfectly suited to do that. Not only can they tank and pick a Cooper flag and Ace Bailey, whoever they get, but once they have three years of picks or whatever may be, and they're ready to get that next guy as disgruntled, they'll have a bunch of picks ready to go give them. Yeah, I think all the smarter teams in the league, like the Boston Celtics in the past, realize that they should treat draft picks as an asset as a stock
Starting point is 00:10:06 or like a house or whatever it is. So you can either do like two things, you can, A, like, keep it and, you know, draft the Jason Tatum's in whatever other world, whatever of the world, or, you know, wheel and deal and trade for that big time star the second that they're available. I think we just witnessed the OKCs and Boston Celtics of the world just way ahead of their time and all these other teams are just starting to catch up. Man, Cam Thomas, he's on my fantasy team.
Starting point is 00:10:32 And in our fantasy basketball league, you can keep two players in your previous roster to the next year. I'm keeping the shit out of Cam Thomas. And this man is going to be a tank commander averaging 28 points per game on the worst efficiency you've ever seen, but those points are being scored, and it's going to be glorious for someone like me that has stock in that. Not going to lie, I hope this team or this trade gets rescinded because there's no way in hell that there was no tampering going on.
Starting point is 00:10:54 Evidence is right there on social media. It's on Instagram. They made memes out of it. People are friends. People are friends. Like, what do you want to say? But this is not allowed. Players are allowed to tamper all they want.
Starting point is 00:11:04 Teams can't. And if I'm a player and my best friends are all coming together. I'm hitting you up every day. I'm tampering this shit out of that. I'm hearing up every day. Bro, not in David Stern's NBA. can't believe what's going on these days this is nasty and this is this is the easiest this is the easiest way to tamper because again mckell doesn't have to move right he he can
Starting point is 00:11:24 keep everything in his life the same it's like sometimes when you if you're talking to other NBA players it's like yo like sorry why would you do that all right i just like it's one of the best it's one of the best celebration again yeah you do one more time oh double hands now Crazy. How you can want up that? Do that? Okay, relax. Every time it gets crazier.
Starting point is 00:11:49 No, man, but it's up. It's over. It's over. We should be one of the best teams in the Eastern Conference next year. I'm very excited to see how everything navigates. I'm excited also to see Julius Randall fit back into this because everybody, like, we've been talking about the Knicks for so long because Julius Randall has been hurt since January. hurt since January. So the context in which we talked about him is like, you know, you have Jalen Brunton,
Starting point is 00:12:17 you have everybody else and you obviously have like the Nova guys. But something that you saw so clearly in the playoffs was, man, like the Knicks needed another guy and it's like they had somebody who is in all, it was a former all NBA player could average 24 and 9 and they're still on the roster. And now when you include that and include McKell Bridges, the ceiling for the same. Dealing for the Knicks is a championship. Like, it, I don't, I don't think that it is too lofty to think that if everything clicks next season, that they could win the title. It's not.
Starting point is 00:12:52 What was that? Nothing. Just go. Just go. My bad. I was thinking about the fact that Dolphinx is a Laker. He's fine. Disgusting, man.
Starting point is 00:12:59 You love these accountants, man. What's the next topic? I think next, we should move to the title of the episode. Let's start going through every single NBA team and talking about each of their biggest weaknesses. Their biggest hole they need to fill this off season. however they may be. How we're going to do is we can go division by division. Each of us has 10 teams, so we're all going to have teams within these divisions.
Starting point is 00:13:18 Let's start with the Glitzen Glamour. Let's start with the Pacific Division. And first and foremost, the Golden State Warriors. Who has the Golden State Warriors? I have them. What is the Golden State Warriors' biggest weakness? The Golden State Warriors, I just wrote their talent. Because they need it, bro.
Starting point is 00:13:33 That's a thorough, thorough job doing. Yeah, obviously, first and foremost, they need to figure out what they want to do. I need to change my analysis. What they need to do. Might be another team I have like that. No, me too. So these guys just suck, it's fine. So obviously as a late, they've been in a ton of rumors involving Paul George and, you know, them moving off of also Aaron Wiggins.
Starting point is 00:13:56 They've been apparently shopping him heavy, which I think is... Andrew? Yeah, my bet. Andrew Wiggins, which is accurate is what they should be doing. Because I think at this point in time, everyone knows that they went ahead and failed. the double timeline experiment only like maybe one team in NBA history was able to do so and now they should be buying all-in and forfeit whatever assets whether it would be like something is great I don't know how they feel I'm still to this day but Andrew Wiggins he
Starting point is 00:14:26 has to go Clay Thompson if he has to be sacrificed let it be so and I generally think that you know I said sacrifice I keep gonna die yeah but no like a Paul George generally would revitalize this team and that should be like the 110% move I agree I'm very you know as NBA fans in the media everyone's just like star trade star trade star trade they just need it and normally I'm like a relaxed teams have to build the right way you got to have a proper infrastructure around your star you already have yada yada that all goes out the window we're talking about the Golden State Warriors I've never seen a team that so desperately needs specifically a star in my life yeah they have all these interesting young guys you said
Starting point is 00:15:05 They failed the two-timeline experience, then. The biggest reason they failed that is because Clay Thompson is no longer a top tier player. And obviously, Andrew Wiggins forgot to play basketball. But they have the young guys. Like Pajemski, really good. Trey Jackson Davis, really good. Kaminga Moody can be contributing players. It's just they can be contributing next to Steph plus star two.
Starting point is 00:15:23 And they just don't have star two right now. And yeah, maybe it's Paul George I got to do. But they have to get some heavy hitter in there because no amount of small moves in the bench or just linear things around the edges is going to make them become a great team. They need serious power. Yeah, you guys are saying, talent, I look at this as, like, more vibes for them. Because the last two years, post-Dremont Punch, the entire vibe with the Golden State Warriors, you know, team has just been off. Davion Mitchell got traded to the Raptors.
Starting point is 00:15:53 Yeah, so we started recording this about the time the second round is starting. So tons of small irrelevant moves are happening. We'll let you guys know if anything big happens. I kind of like that. That's solid. Davion is Davion, whatever. Don't disrespect. Daveon. I didn't say he's trash. He's Davion.
Starting point is 00:16:08 I don't disrespect. I know what you're doing. The man is Davian. But yeah, no, like since, yeah, since the pool punch, it just seems like everything has been a massive struggle for the Warriors. They've built this whole thing on like this free-flowing, very fun style of basketball. And it hasn't felt like that. It's felt like Steph Curry has been fighting this uphill battle by himself. And whether that's because Jordan Poole wants to act like he, you know, know, is the second coming of Steph Curry or Andrew Wiggins wants to, you know,
Starting point is 00:16:39 revert to bus version of Andrew Wiggins. It's very hard. So I would like to see them go get Paul George because obviously that would make Steph's job a lot easier. But even if that doesn't happen, take a group therapy trip, do whatever, go to TopGoff, just get everybody to like each other. Because also with the Clay Thompson aspect of it, that's also been, you know, a storyline for them to follow where this is a guy that's been a part of your franchise.
Starting point is 00:17:04 has one title since done all this thing, and you don't know if you're going to pay him, you don't know if you're going to bring him back in that, and that kind of transition has also kept everything down. I think so as well. I think he's gone. More specifically, I said they need a star. They really need advantage creation on this roster.
Starting point is 00:17:19 They have, their big men are fine, I think. Draymond, Luni, Trace, it's not the strongest unit in the world, but Draymond can cover up a lot. That's a completely fine group. Obviously, we know Steph Curry, Steph Curry at the point guard position, but Jimsy's a combo guard.
Starting point is 00:17:32 They have a little bit there. But on the wings, they need someone that can create an advantage with physicality, athleticism, burst to get to the rim and start rotations. They're so lacking in that. Camiga's gotten better at that, but he's not a playmaker at all. He's a downhill one-on-one score, which is cool.
Starting point is 00:17:46 But someone like Paul George can not only score off ball off of step-cary gravity, can create for themselves in a pick and roll, can finish plays, create plays, do that versatility there. They need some more of that specifically. Because Chris Ball didn't give him shit when we thought maybe he would give them playmaking than you did. They need someone that can do what Chris Ball was supposed to do.
Starting point is 00:18:02 Yeah, and if it's not going to be someone like Paul George, then shut out of luck and the next best option is figuring out a way to do a sign and trade if Clay Thompson would agree to do something like that for Brandon Ingram and New Orleans. That'd be cool. But the reality here is Golden State fans get ready to speak to Martyrows and it's coming. That's a steep decline, man. Oh my goodness.
Starting point is 00:18:27 It'll be better obviously than what they have right now. I don't think it would be. That'd be a terrible fit. We'll see where tomorrow goes. There are a lot of teams to talk about. We can keep moving. Yeah. Let's move to a quick one.
Starting point is 00:18:36 The Kings. Who has the Kings? I believe I have the Sacramento Kings as well. All right. What is the King's Vegas weakness? Just yesterday witnessed them. Go ahead and drive Devin Carter, which I'm just going to go ahead and spoil the news right now. We think that was a great draft selection and they fixed a lot.
Starting point is 00:18:51 But for this team right here, they were known to be a super powerful offense just two years ago. That's what put them over the top over everyone else in the NBA. and that's that was really their niche since then they regressed because of a multitude of things and now they're back at a point to where you know they resign malik monk got devon carter now and they are looking to you know revitalize that so if i'm the sacramental kings you need more fire power in order to you know find your place in NBA again and be one of the higher seated western conference teams i don't know if that's actually possible but if they want to maximize on their potential. They don't have much money, all right? Yeah. So they're going to have to do things
Starting point is 00:19:34 out of the, around the edge. So I guess Royce O'Neill might be there because he can also sure up your defense as well, which improved. But that's the best move that I got for them. Yeah, they need wing size. Harrison Barnes is Harrison Barnes in the same way that Dave on Mitchell is Davey on Mitchell. He gives them what he gives them. I follow some Kings fans. Shout up possible chairs on TikTok. I think Harrison Barnes is the worst start in the NBA. And There's some shitty starters up there, so I won't say that. But he's not far from the bottom of that list. And listen, Kiki-Murie's great.
Starting point is 00:20:05 He's going to continue to develop. But even if we can assume Kevin Herder is no longer a priority because we have Devin Carter and Malik Munk paid, they need someone to replace a Harrison Barnspot, and they need some real athleticism in there. They've been linked to Kyle Kuzman for a long time. That's a perfect move for me. I like that.
Starting point is 00:20:21 If it's not Kyle Kuzma, I've been saying this since the rumors came out, yo, Zach Levine would get you right back up there where you want to be offensively because, of course, he's one of the best. better shooters in the NBA and just known to be an explosive score heading down at towards the world. I think it's impossible if a good defense with Zach Levine as a bonus on the court at the same time.
Starting point is 00:20:38 They screw defense, bro. That's what they did two years ago and they found so much success. So much success on a first-on-exit. That, we're talking about the Sacramento Kingsman. You're right. You're right. This is an NBA Finals. But if they, if they go out and they go out and make a move like that and you get Zach
Starting point is 00:20:50 Levine or whatever move that you make and you lean into offense, you are taking a step back because the whole thing is like, we can't play defense. now so we're going to win games by you know by being a track team running up and down but next year the year after we'll be able to be a more complete basketball team be able to play defense and you go out and get an aging injury prone two guard who does not defend to be one of like the key pieces of your team now i'm looking at you and i can tell you are not serious about actually building a championship team because exactly everyone has to be serious about being a championship team. Everyone has to be real about their, you know, their potential. And I'm not
Starting point is 00:21:32 going to sit over here and say like, yeah, like, can you win a championship with DeMontas a bonus as the one to die? They wouldn't get to the second round. They wouldn't get to the second round. They could. All right. We don't have to discuss the Kings long term. If we know what the kings are. We're going to keep moving. The Clippers. Who has the Clippers? That is me. That is me. I think they have, it's not even a problem, but it's more of like an item on the checklist. They need to maintain Paul George. Because if they don't. That's where the problem is coming. Because they, like, you already know what James Hardin is going to be in the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:22:03 You've seen him kind of, you know, take a step back. Kauai Leonard, his injury stuff is also there. If Paul George is not there, the future is so bleak, right, for the clippers. They're all apart fast. They don't have a lot of creation movement. One of the guys that's going to go in and do the dirty work, right? And Paul George has been kind of cast in that role where you have the big three.
Starting point is 00:22:30 Trading for James Harding, you gave up a lot of assets. You already had assets out the door to get Kauai and Paul George. You have limited flexibility. Your payroll is going to be very high. You are not developing a lot of young players. You don't have a good stall of young players like that. You're moving into the new arena. This is probably the best opportunity that you have
Starting point is 00:22:51 to have a high-level competent team. Fun fact. Please. The Los Angeles Clippers have the most toilets in the entire NBA. That is true. Real shitters. And people are going to want to spend more time in the bathroom than actually watching this team. Paul George is not there.
Starting point is 00:23:07 And so they need to make sure that he's on this team, that he's on the roster. It's real simple. They have no path to replacing him and getting another star. If you're left with just Kauai, who at this point, we don't know if he's going to have a healthy player up front ever again. And James Hardin, who is still a useful player. but extremely diminished, you have no ceiling at all without Paul George there. Exactly. So, I agree.
Starting point is 00:23:28 Sign PG and then, you know, we could talk. Who has the Phoenix Suns? That is also me. Okay. What is the Phoenix Sun's biggest weakness? The Phoenix Suns need, they need playmaking and they need interior defense. One of the key things for them is, obviously, we talked all last year. They don't have a point guard.
Starting point is 00:23:46 And while Devin Booker can't play a point guard and he can do it at a pretty good level, that defeats the purpose of having Devin Booker. You do not want to miscast Devon Booker, and with Kevin Durant being older, you want to make sure that Kevin Durant can get the ball exactly where he wants it. Devon Booker can score exactly where he wants it. And they don't have to be the primary creators for other people and the primary creators for themselves. You obviously don't want Bradley Beal playing point guard either. You need somebody who can set the table for them and do that. And then also you need interior defense because, you man, Nurkitts, he is not.
Starting point is 00:24:22 he's not the guy. He's not the future. And you need to be able to have your one in your five locked up. You have two through four. That's okay, right? We can fill out the wings with guys like Royce O'Neill, Eric Gordon. He declined his player option. We'll see if he's gone. Because if he's gone as well, you need more bench scoring also. But I would say playmaking and interior defense are the two biggest needs for them. Yeah, the biggest need is to just hope Mike Booneholder can fix this team and has something up his fucking sleeve.
Starting point is 00:24:52 because they have no flexibility to do anything. Bradley Beal, you are a Phoenix son for another year. Kevin Durant, you're a Phoenix son until they decide to trade you to the next team in your long history of Celtic Shack era playing for a million teams. Which, you know, he's still great, but he's not Celtic Shack. These jerseys are racking up
Starting point is 00:25:07 pretty soon. It's going to look crazy. He's Phoenix Shack. That's where he's at. Yeah. So, again, it all just comes down to can Mike Boon loser change things because they're going to make some moves. They'll make some small adjustments to their bench. They have zero flexibility to do anything of substance. Now, they did take a step forward
Starting point is 00:25:21 with Draft and Ryan Dunn last night. They did? Yeah. One of the best defenders, probably the best defender in this class. Good fit, too, with Kevin Redden. And he can do all the nitty, greedy, dirty work that they didn't have anyone else doing for them last year.
Starting point is 00:25:35 Last team in this division, the Los Angeles Lakers, their biggest need is more shooting and what I think is the biggest pressing need, a backup big. I had the mispleasure and misfortune of watching Jackson Hayes' minutes for the entire season last year.
Starting point is 00:25:51 Have you ever watched Jackson Hayes on your favorite team? No, but I've watched Jackson Hayes on your favorite team? No. Yeah, nobody can relate. It's not fun. It's not a good time at all. It's actually the worst time. He's not James Wiseman.
Starting point is 00:26:02 I've watched Jericho Sims minutes. Does that count? I would so much rather have Jericho Sims. Jericho Sims is fine. They just need somebody who can play when Anthony Davis is off the court and not sync them, not have just, you're giving up minutes defensively when AD sits. He has to carry such a burden defensively. And the big part of that is he's playing next to, you know, D. L.O. Austin Reeves,
Starting point is 00:26:21 Rui Hachimora, not elite primord defenders by any mean. But another part of it is literally when he sits, there is zero run protection. They need to fix that. And we know they need to shooting. They were near the bottom of the league in three-point volume last year. Here comes the star, Dalton Connect to save the day of the day, so maybe we're good there. But interior is still a massive focus that they're going to have to save in free agency. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:26:41 Like, one of the biggest knocks for Donald Connect is that he's not the defender that, you know, a lot of people would hope for. and now that you have him on a team on this team alongside all the other man lackluster defenders already that back line definitely needs some help and anti-deans all he's already been fighting for his life and draft to connect is not doing you any favors at that end drafting him obviously comes with caveats and stuff
Starting point is 00:27:04 and I think you still do that you still do that same exactly move great deal or a great pick for them but they desperately need another guy back there now at abd especially because AD he's we have to give him credit because he's been very healthy he's been very reliable right but also quietly he's starting to now get up there right andy davis is 32 33 years old you don't want he's not 33 how he's like 31 i think is he 33 i'm guessing 32 let's see uh i think is he turning 32 this year in march he's 31
Starting point is 00:27:38 okay that's why he doesn't a few more years a prime ad actually thought wow that's actually crazy i thought he was much older yeah no but yeah i know what you're saying i take that back He has a few more years, a Prime AD, but pretty soon, we're not going to know when it comes, but a slippage will happen, and it's probably with defensive athleticism. That tends to be where it is with Biggs. You got a plan for that, and you've got to get a big in there that. You know, their whole thing is they're trying to not trade for a star, despite all of us saying, go get Trey Young, go get D. Mitch, all this stuff, because they're trying to build the right way
Starting point is 00:28:05 and build an infrastructure of a good rotation. You need a big man there that can be there for more than a year. You need to have a partner there in that front court that can be someone you look forward to for the next several years of Anthony Davis's career, and it's not Jackson Hayes. can tell you. Does that player exist right now for you? Sure. They have their exceptions in ways they can pay more than minimum. Go get an under drumming, I don't know. Get somebody
Starting point is 00:28:25 competent for the bench. It doesn't got to be anybody amazing. Like, if we're talking a great trade where they can find a way to trade picks, go trade a first-on pick and something for a Nasreed if he's available. It's a Trimbleuze or in Capel. Listen, I know people, I can get to a Klincapella on your team ASAP. Don't worry about it. You're joking. I would fucking love Klincapella
Starting point is 00:28:42 off the bench. It would be incredible. Yeah. It doesn't make sense money-wise, but you can have Roy Hachamore. Give me a Klinkepella. Did you just try to curse me like that? Like your parents would hear me say that and be like this fucking idiot. They love Rui Hachimora. Yeah. That's hilarious.
Starting point is 00:28:57 What's the next team? One playoff ring. Wow. Crazy about shooting 52% from three for three weeks will do for you. Just tricked everybody. Next division. Let's go to the east. The Central Division.
Starting point is 00:29:08 Who has the Cleveland Cavaliers? That is me. I think that they need shooting from the big position. They need to find. away to be able to space the floor, whether that happens because that Mobley is finally going to take the offensive leap that people are begging him to take, right? He's taking steps forward, right? He started shooting a little bit more last season from three.
Starting point is 00:29:34 And he doesn't even need to be like knocked down Brooke Lopez, Splash Mountain, but you need to be able to look like a threat, not be a complete zero, not be a negative from the three point line because when you have Evermobly and you have Jared Allen if neither of them can shoot your offense gets real clunky very very quickly and if you are going to keep Garland you're going to keep Donovan Mitchell you want them to have as much space as possible to operate and I that for me is going to be it's going to be the number one thing because they drafted Jaylon Tyson yes they drafted Jaylon Tyson to kind of fill the Isaac of Coral role so you still have, like they're trying to replenish their wings, it's really just incoming on
Starting point is 00:30:18 on Ebermobli to keep stretching the floor. Yeah, and they're kind of like the sons where they're committing to their group and thinking a new coach can be the key here. Their biggest weakness is we don't know what Kenny Atkins is going to do. Can he fix his team, right? Can he have a new look for them that makes a spacing work with the two bigs? The ball handling duties and off ball duties work between the two guards. It's all going to be internal development. They're not going to have a huge splash to somewhere, I don't think. Yeah. We should see a better year from Garland as well. Yeah, when his jaw's not broken.
Starting point is 00:30:45 Yeah. He just went through, he went through too many, too many injuries, was out the lineup. And by the time he came back, D. Mitz was already rolling, so you can't really step on his toes and take over, you know, take control back over. So you give everybody a full offseason. Cleveland Cavaliers, you guys get one more chance, right? That you fired the coach, you guys have one more chance to see if this big four can work. If not, changes are made.
Starting point is 00:31:12 So they're not going to make a change this summer. You know who needs to? The next team on this list is, the Chicago Bulls are my team. And what I have written down is... 30 seconds. 30 seconds. I have...
Starting point is 00:31:21 Clock starts now. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 words spinning... 7 words sprinted down. Please trade these motherfuckers and add spacing. And that's all I got to say about the Bulls. Perfect. That was elite analysis. You know who the motherfuckers are?
Starting point is 00:31:35 Trade them. We have Muzellis. We have Giddy. We have a bunch of guards. No shooters. Find them some shooters. So these guys can develop. it properly otherwise you're going to be looking at the worst basketball thing you've ever seen
Starting point is 00:31:44 your life and trade the veterans yeah i mean when he says like find you some shooters doesn't have to be like high level shooters or so whatever case may be guys don't just get like a tim hardway junior or whatever case may be guys don't just feel more comfortable on the court because listen listen bro it's the bulls what are you being so bad it's the mold though find a level a space and you competencies where's tim you y'all suck Tim Hardaway Jr. at a time like this. DeRose did it's a free agent. Let him walk. Trade Zach Levine. Trade Vucevich for the bag of
Starting point is 00:32:21 crackers you can get for him. And keep it pushing. Clearly they have, you know, Giddy Boozealous, Kobe White, and Dissumu is their future. Commit to it. Yeah. I don't even want to talk more about them about the OnCorp product because the whole world cares so little about their current Encore product because they need to find a new one. That I don't think we need to give it the time of the day. Who has your Pacers?
Starting point is 00:32:40 I have the Indiana Pacers. What is their biggest weakness? So, we saw this team go ahead and make it all the way to the Easter Conference Finals. And as a Hawksand, I've been through this before. I don't want to say anything. I know a fluke when I see one. That's exactly what you're saying. What?
Starting point is 00:32:58 I'll say it for you. I know a fluke when I see one. Something smells fishy, okay? A lot of things went their way. They did exactly what they're supposed to do. Play the team in front of them with the guys who were in the opposing jersey. Okay, cool. Right now, they just, congrats to them, just resigned Pascal Seacom.
Starting point is 00:33:15 That's a huge W, of course. But when I look at this team, I don't think about moves that they can make outside of their roster. I look within their roster. I think they just need more internal development from the guys like Andrew Demhard. I look at him and I see what he did in the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:33:30 And I'm like, huh, he got some real shit to his game. He can tell us to another gear. And he definitely locks up that starting two-guard spot. Although there's like a few concerns about game and his ability to create on a consistent basis. You're not asking to do that because you have Pascal and Tyrese Halliborne there. And of course, speaking of like development and whatnot, we all know Tyre's Halliburne. He has a few things in his game that he needs to adjust and correct in order for this team's ceiling and also his ceiling as a star player
Starting point is 00:33:57 to continue to evolve and progress. And then also I think another probably massive question mark is their lottery pick from two years ago, Bennett Mathrin. Yeah. What are we doing at this point Yeah, I think the biggest weakness they have is not really a personnel weakness, like they make moves, but they need to clear up minutes for the young guys. Yeah. Figure what you can get from Benick Matherin. Is he your starting too long term, or is it Nemhard? Is Nemhard best as a six-man?
Starting point is 00:34:21 And what can you get out of Jarvis Walker this year? Because they basically give him a red shirt season, which wasn't because of anything to do with him. They just have a deep team that was trying to win out. They have a thousand guys that can play. So they basically give Jaris Walker a development year in the G-League. What can you get from him? That can be a big leap from them if he comes in year two.
Starting point is 00:34:38 and can be this versatile forward that can do things for them. That's how this team's going to make a big leap. They made the free-yx factor. Now you have the young guys develop and take you the next level. Yeah, I absolutely agree. But outside of that, they're cool.
Starting point is 00:34:49 For the patient's sake, I hope it's not a flu. But you, like you said, a lot of stuff went their way. I want to see Tyrese Halliburton. Let's get in the lab, right? Call up Drew Hanlon. I need you to come next year and have a back. That is my ass for the painters. Now, something about them, too, that they're going to have to really make a decision on is Obie Toppin.
Starting point is 00:35:12 Did they resign him yet? I don't believe so. I have no idea. I'm not sure. He's generally a great fit there, but there's going to be some real hard conversations and decisions. They could let him walk. Me personally, I want to let him walk because he can only take you so high. That's not hard to me at all.
Starting point is 00:35:26 He's like, when it comes to this team and their identity, he is that he, you know, embodies that. Give Jared Walker his minutes. Exactly. Keep moving. Yeah, exactly. I think that's a lot else. like the easier decision because he just offers he can do exactly what Obitopin does
Starting point is 00:35:40 but on a much broader scale with the defense the playmaking and not playing it with dribbling and all that that he does who has the Milwaukee Bucks who I think I might have the Milwaukee Bucks what is the Milwaukee Bucks biggest weakness and how they fix it they need fast people they do it that's exactly what I was thinking
Starting point is 00:35:56 they need youth in athleticism they need they need fast people and they need perimeter defense you need somebody who can who can help dame out and the traffic last night right that is that is Johnson that is where they where they went they went with a project but they went with a super athletic project and so when when all else fails you can throw him out there and he's going to be fast and they just you just need you need more speed yeah and you need more
Starting point is 00:36:23 athleticism and more pop to to your roster because dame Brooke Lopez Chris Middleton who is kind of always hurt now you guys did like they called a pat bear Pat Bedvin was like, yeah, we need help. Like, you don't have the athletic prowess on your team to really, really take you guys to the next level. So that's what I think the bucks need. I fear it is time to trade Brooke Lopez. A player who we love.
Starting point is 00:36:51 We've been up here for years saying that Brooke Lopez is highly underrated, incredibly valuable for what he brings as a rim protector and a three-point shooter. It's time for them to get fast, and the best way to do that is get rid of the slow guy that's down low. And he's one of your only players that has value on a team that has very little assets.
Starting point is 00:37:07 You're not trading Dame. You're not really getting much for Chris Middleton. That's worth trading him. Yonis is Yonis. You got to trade Brooke Lopez, I think. And I'm thinking it's time for Senator Yonis to be the look next year.
Starting point is 00:37:17 Might be the best bet. Trade him for an athletic forward. Do whatever you can. See what the Pelicans got. They got assets for you. You can reroute them. Maybe bring a Jeremy Grant type. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:37:26 The person I need to target with it, I'm not sure. I've seen rumors like, is Marcus Smart available. That'd be a good fit here. That could also be cool. Many paths you can go. but I think Janus being the center
Starting point is 00:37:37 might be the best path going forward That's tough But would Janus want to be center Because we already saw, you know Does Janus want to win? I don't know, does he? But he says so But that's actually a completely different thing
Starting point is 00:37:48 When it comes to asking him to set screens And all that of the stuff That doesn't got to be center Janus I think that's the easiest conclusion It can be another center Of some sort, whatever you trade those assets for But Brooke is probably You gotta bite a tough bullet
Starting point is 00:38:00 To improve the team in any substantial way That's the one I'd want to bite if I had to deal with all these bad options. This is so tough because you, let's say that they trade Brooke in consecutive all seasons, you're going to trade Drew Holiday and Brooke Lopez and completely overhaul your identity. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:17 And the only, if you do get fast, great. You still need to be able to defend. And that's the biggest problem. And but like the underrated thing that is, well, it might not be underrated, but like Brooke Lopez is also a. spacer for your offense. And if you trade him, not only do you need to get like fast, but you need to get fast shooters. And the fast athletic shooters are at a premium. Like they don't,
Starting point is 00:38:45 you don't just make crazy athletic, you know, floor spacers like that. So that's why it really is hard. So I don't know if they, I don't know if they have, if they have it in them to do it. Yeah. But what you're saying makes sense. And I wouldn't want to, for all the reasons you're saying, I wouldn't want them to you. I'd love it if they can keep Brooke. Their offense is worse when he's on the court. Two points for possession, worse. But their defense is eight points per 100 possessions better when he's on the court. He's the only reason the defense was decent last year. And that's tough because you've got to find a new way to be an effective defense. And maybe that's the honest in a new role that's going to be really carrying the load there. We'll see. The reasons
Starting point is 00:39:20 you're saying are very valid. They would have to completely change the way they play. But I don't know if they have a ceiling playing the way they are now with the roster they have. You can try it again. And maybe you think you're the best two players in the series. You can have a punch chance. I think we might be in like for a whole overload of what Yonis basketball looks like. Yeah, I think obviously that at this point in time, they should be desperate to try anything. And Brooke Lopez is genuinely one of the more valuable trade pieces in the NBA. If that is the case, because he's so rare because of the shot blocking and three-point shooting that he adds to any team in general. But if not Brooke Lopez, then I guess the next asset that
Starting point is 00:39:56 we're talking about at this point is Bobby Portis. And I don't know too many teams. who are jumping out of their season necessarily saying, Get me one, Bobby! Start the Bobby port as bidding war, let's get it going. Yeah. You're gonna get one Rui Haji Mora for that, that's actually, which, lo-key, maybe that'd be good for them, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:40:15 Listen, they're down bad, they're down bad. A bet on Brooke Lopez is a bet on Chris Middleton as well. Yeah. All right, who is the Detroit Pistons? The last team of the Central Division. That is me, and they have one thing that they need. They need shooting. Yeah, they do.
Starting point is 00:40:28 Their roster right now, Cade Cunningham, Cade Cunningham, Jaden Ivy, Ron Holland, right? All these guys that they have, the very young core, these guys cannot shoot. And it is going to sound crazy in that arena. It's going to sound scary because none of the shots are going in. And while I do like the pieces that they have, I like them as individuals. And I'm in on Pistons basketball just because I want to say. see, I want to see Ron Holland play basketball. I want to see Kate Cunningham play. But as a team and as a collection, it is not good. And the one thing that has plagued the Pistons over the past couple
Starting point is 00:41:09 years is you have not, you literally haven't allowed your place to have enough space to develop because everybody is a non-shooter. You need one guy. They're one of the people, we talk about trenches. They should be calling up Tim Hardaway Jr. And saying, can you please come play for us? Because the only thing that they've done, like they went out, try to get Joe Harris and try to see if he could be, you know, the shooter again. That didn't really work. Maybe Tim Hardaway is the guy and you have one more. Whatever it is, you write it spacing. We all love the Ron Holland pick when it happened yesterday. Again, go watch that stringback. If you want to see our reactions to every pick, best player available on the board, talent pick makes sense. You cannot play
Starting point is 00:41:47 Ron Holland and S.R. Thompson together and expect to have any reasonable sense of basketball around Kate Cunningham. That's 70s basketball. That's never being effective basketball. That It's not effective in any generation. There's something else to give. Some of these guys have to develop the shooters. And again, it's on their new coach's job to do a better job than Monty Williams' ass did, which is a very easy bar to clear. But they got to do the same thing we said with the Bulls where give your young guys a chance to develop
Starting point is 00:42:11 by surrounding them with competent shooting, that they're in a structured environment that lets them improve their skills. Yeah, I agree. I think one of the easier ways to address their shooting rules with like a legit, a legit, person with just like pull and gravity and whatnot is I'm sorry I don't I'd hate to do it but jaden ivy might have to be gone because he might have to be gone I agree you might have to be gone just because Ron Holland and his fit with Katie Cunningham just even black and white on paper is a lot more cleaner and Jaden ivy's not the most valuable asset but when it comes to just what you want
Starting point is 00:42:49 is just someone who can be respectable on both ends of the court simple simple trade to me yeah And there's streamed out there that will want to take the bet on Jaden Ivy being rehabilitated. Tim Hardaway Jr. and Reggie Bullock. You guys are Detroit Pistons. Reggie Bullock, oh my God, his return? Here we go. Heldon Johnson for Jaden Ivy is going to move mountains. Keldon, oh. Let's do it. Let's do it. Now you see why the Spurs went ahead and did that train?
Starting point is 00:43:13 Coming around to it now. That's the essential division. We're two out of six divisions in. We've got to speed up. We always do this. You guys, you have too much in the first couple? We've got to go fast. I'm just so passionate about Kelton Johnson, man. Sorry. All right, we're going to go to the Southwest Division now.
Starting point is 00:43:26 Start the San Antonio Spurs. Who has the Spurs? That is me. We talked all last year about the fact that they need a point guard. They went out. They think that they got their point guard of the future. They drafted Sophan Castle. Saffon Castle is also not a great shooter.
Starting point is 00:43:40 Correct. And so now you have to go and get spacing around Wembe. You think that you have your point guard? That's fine. We can work with that. We need complementary pieces because Wembe is going to be amazing next season, and if you have somebody who can finally set them up, now getting Wembe, Spacer, Florida General, that is a formula that I know will bode success for San Antonio.
Starting point is 00:44:05 So that's the number one thing that I need from them. Yeah. They just got to be diligent and, like, be patient because, you know, they had the eighth pick in the draft, and they punted it. They kicked the can down the road, as people like to say, traded it for a 231 for a first-on pick. For a middle schooler. For an 11-year-old.
Starting point is 00:44:21 And, you know, people see that. and they're like a 2031 pick gets you the eighth pick that's crazy blah blah because they see an 11-year-old like you're saying doesn't really work that way what they did was
Starting point is 00:44:30 this is an extra pick they had from the Toronto Raptors and instead of picking it now they said we're going to trade it for an equal pick in the future and use that as a trade asset you know you move laterally but you give yourself
Starting point is 00:44:41 more time to do something with that because you don't like the guys in that draft right now you keep the ammunition and have a later timeline with it that's fine but they would only do that if one
Starting point is 00:44:52 they want to be bad again next year and have another high-level pick. And two, they want to make a trade. They intend to trade that pick. You don't trade for 2031 pick and intend to pick a guy in fucking seven years. You're going to make a move. And I think what that means is, one, they don't want Trey Young. They don't want Zach Bean. They don't want the guys available now. They don't want Brandon Ingram. But they know they're going to want somebody eventually. They're going to want to get a star eventually. And that's what they're keeping that ammunition. So when the right guy comes available, whatever may be, they can pounce on it. So I think you don't get greedy. You
Starting point is 00:45:20 don't try and do anything crazy. You just build the supporting cast around Wembe, around Castle, and nurture these role players. So when the time finally comes that you get another guy, you have the foundation around them. I 10010% agree. Like you said, they basically showed patience. Like you used that word earlier. They basically did that. They didn't want to, they didn't absolutely love all the guys available because unlike Stefan Castle, everyone else came with specific caveats that isn't just, that isn't unavoidable. Yeah. It would be Rob Dalyam and his defense. might as well as in like, you know, shooting or whatever.
Starting point is 00:45:53 Massive concerns and questions. And they did like the smart things. Went ahead, built up more assets so they can figure out what they want to do in the future and just give them more time to just worry about the other. With that being said, they should have picked Cody Williams. Yeah, I think they'll live. Oh, no, Cody Williams, they'll live. They'll be fine.
Starting point is 00:46:09 I think right now at this point in time. When he's a star, you're not going to say that. I, okay, I'm not going to have that conversation, but I think he's going to be a great player. But in the meantime, go ahead and in order to supplement the skill deck, Cody, William will potentially have in the future or whatever, sign the KCPs of the world, sign the random role players, the Royceoneers of the world, then you'll be fine. Who has the Grizzies? I think I have the...
Starting point is 00:46:30 What is the Grizzies biggest problem? Oh, I think I, yeah, I have the Grizzies. So, they went ahead and drafted Zach Edie, tremendous pick because in college he was quite literally the best screen setter, which is a super valuable thing. You have specifically John Morant on your team, and his play style. definitely need someone like, definitely acquire someone like, require someone like Zach Eadie,
Starting point is 00:46:55 and I think all they need is just simply health, you know? Yeah, exactly. Don't have your entire team die a month into the season and you're going to be okay. But I think they probably should get a backup big. They filled their whole with Zach Eadie, but he's at their only center now. Let's get another guy behind him,
Starting point is 00:47:09 especially with the fact that he's a rookie, with the fact that he's a guy that has a very specific skill set. You need some versatility in that front court. And granted, Jaron Jackson can play five. He can give you some of that. But I think finding one more chief five can be really important for them yeah they got like the jake laravias and uh salty aldama's and they're good not fives by any means they're good but it's like yeah it's not necessarily a huge
Starting point is 00:47:30 concern for me personally yeah yeah again this is a team that doesn't have huge concerns their lineup is gonna be fantastic next year yeah they need to have to do something smaller around the edges and to me that's a back of five so you're not in a situation at the lakers run last year where every time the backup comes in you just die i'd rather than not have that issue yeah but you don't you don't need zack edie running up and down the floor for you know 34 35 minutes a night because you don't have any another option. We talked about on the stream last night. I personally, in the biggest acuity fan of the world,
Starting point is 00:47:59 I love this fit. We have the guy who's going to be the best offensive rebound in the league, an elite screen setter, who may be the best in the league, one of the biggest radiuses for catching pick and rolls with John Moran who gets downhill.
Starting point is 00:48:10 All of that, he's going to eat immediately. And you have Jared Jackson to day one be able to be his weak side help. Their GM did a press conference yesterday where he talked about this, and he said, People have a lot of misconceptions around Zach Edy because when he was in college, he was told, don't be aggressive on defense.
Starting point is 00:48:24 You can't foul out. We need you to do everything offensively. He said, we're going to make him be aggressive. We're going to let him use that 7-11 wingspan and we're going to let him foul because it's fine. He doesn't have to play 48 minutes a night. Yeah. We're going to see that from them. So I think this big guy is going to be running a phone down the court, huffin and puffing.
Starting point is 00:48:40 You need another big in there to help get him use of this NBA world. Yeah, I feel like a lot of people whenever they see Zach Eady and see what he was being used as in college, I think that's like his only like his only strength on the court and I think people don't take into account all the nuances like you said like they need them on the court for others reasons, scoring and stuff like that but also in college like it wasn't allowed to be aggressive because the only allow five fouls for every player on the court you know and he is just so valuable of two valuable of a player for Purdue's offense back then to risk that so I agree he's going to make a major impact.
Starting point is 00:49:13 So that man again go go watch the stream part for Zach E's pick so that a lot of thoughts so why I think is good, go check that out. Yes. Who has a Houston Rockets? Not me. That might be you. I have the Houston Rockets. Breaking news, my bad.
Starting point is 00:49:25 I wrote, clear up the rotation and figure out your team politics. That is the biggest thing. Politics. What do you mean by that? Jaylon Green. There's no clear hierarchy.
Starting point is 00:49:34 Exactly. Your hierarchy, which, you know, saying clear up to team politics doesn't necessarily imply bad politics or imply there's like a problem right now. They have a coach who's coming into year two. Last year was a blank slate.
Starting point is 00:49:45 And they have like a thousand. rotation pieces. At point guard, they got Fred Van Vleet and a men Thompson. Shooting Guard, Jalen Green, Reed Shepard, Smallford, Tari Easton, Dylan Brooks, and Cam Whitmore. We're going on the list. Each position has a battle to figure out who's in the start and who's going to get backup minutes. And right now there's certain guys that are ingrained into that. You know, Dylan Brooks and Fred Van Vleet were paid last summer. They're going to be the starters. They're the bridge players to bring professionalism and competency to a team that was in the gutter for like three years. Outside of that, which young guys are.
Starting point is 00:50:16 guys are going to rise to the cream of the crop. I don't know. I don't think they need to do anything dramatic to figure it out. Maybe there's a consolidation trade, you know. There's a lot of reports that they want to get good. Brandon Ingram is available. So maybe some of these guys, maybe Tarotian, can't whip more, whatever. I would hate that too. Consolidate. Whoever may be, they need to even a consolidation trade to have less guys or figure out who's going to be the priority and empower them. A lot of what you see, especially on great, great teams, the stuff that people talk about all the time is knowing your role and figuring out where you are going to fit into this rotation. And the fact that you just drafted Reed Shepherd, I said it on the stream, that puts a direct
Starting point is 00:50:56 target on Jalen Green's back, right? You have a men Thompson who's going to come up and be the point guard. You need to know. Is it going to be Reed or is it going to be Jalen Green that's going to be the two of the future? And do you want to rely on somebody that is going to give you 30 points a night for three weeks out of the season and then, you know, be a very up and down player for the rest of the year or Reed Shepard, who I think is going to be a very consistent shooter throughout his,
Starting point is 00:51:23 you know, throughout his career throughout the season. Obviously, you know, he's going to have rookie ups and downs and whatnot, but you have to figure out this is our one, two, three. And it's not even about like, oh, whose team is it? It's just who's going to do what. Right. Who's going to play with who? Exactly. Who's going to play with who? What is
Starting point is 00:51:39 your responsibility? Then we can actually start cooking. And that's, that's something that you may, I have full confidence in him being able to do that way. So basically we're saying just be patient and figure it out, don't make anything drastic. There's a lot of reports that they're trying to trade for Kevin Durant, are willing to trade Sangun when they're not fully bought in on him, all this bullshit. Don't do bullshit. Just be calm, be patient, be a young team, let your young guys grow.
Starting point is 00:52:01 Don't do anything ridiculous. That's the biggest weakness is they have to overcome their desire to be ridiculous. Yeah, I don't understand the rush. I mean, obviously like you see those, I believe in some of those reports and them wanting to get really good with what they did, concerning what they did last year and getting Van Vleet and Dylan Brooks and whatnot and also having a veteran coach like, veteran coach like Amy Yudoka. But, you know, I agree with you guys wholeheartedly. They just need to genuinely also like commit to certain things and certain guys by the end of,
Starting point is 00:52:29 by the end of next season, for sure. All right. Who has the Dallas Mavericks? I have the Dallas Mavericks. What is their biggest weakness? We saw them get obliterated in the NBA finals. We did. And the nicest way to put it.
Starting point is 00:52:41 and we saw them obviously face one of the more versatile teams that you've seen in a very, very long time and that exposes a lot of thing within the Dallas Maveris, whether it be, you know, Lukely Donchish in his defense or Carrie Irving in his performance
Starting point is 00:52:55 as a second option. I think the question for them is much broader than that. I look at guys like Daniel Gafford and I think he is pretty much wasted space on that team considering he's a good player, but wasted space is crazy.
Starting point is 00:53:09 You can't call somebody a good player. That's a lot. He's a good player. He's a good player. He has a place, but just not on this. But it's wasted. Exactly. You know, considering the only reason why he's wasted spaces because Derek Lively exists and he's there and obviously he is a more impactful player. I would value someone like Daniel Gafford if Derek Lively, I would value Gafferick. I would value Gaffer more if Lively wasn't there, but Lively is there and he's arrived and he eats up all the minutes. You need players who can sure up your wing depth because You're not going to be able to rely on the max eclipse of the world.
Starting point is 00:53:44 Who, again, I'm saying it again, waste it space. You know, he's supposed to be a three. Now that is waste space. There we go. He's supposed to be like a big shooter. Not really that, bro. And he's gone through so many injuries in the past few years. They definitely need to share up their wings because Josh Green, really athletic.
Starting point is 00:54:01 And he had a couple of great finals games, but they need more wings in order to make sure that they hit all facets of versatility. Yeah, they figured out their formula. They have two really versatile bigs that give them front court dominance, the two best, probably the best back court in the league, and versatile wings that can be athletic and switch and defend really well. I think they've got to double down on that. One, they can do nothing. The biggest priority is to resign Derek Jones
Starting point is 00:54:26 and make sure you can do what you did this year next year for a full sample size and get that high seed. So they can be a little bit complacent, I think, and not do too much. But if the opportunity comes around, they've been linked to Jeremy Grant trades. I don't know what they're going to trade to get them money-wise. They just unloaded the clip. Yeah. Yeah, whatever it is, that would be a type of player that doubles down to what we're talking about.
Starting point is 00:54:43 He's the same type of guy, a long wing that can defend as a PJ Washington. Should get another one. Keep the formula in place. Be athletic down low. Be skilled up high and be versatile in the middle. Find a way to add to your bench and have more of that. Yeah, exactly. You need guys who can play in a multitude of ways because even if you do decide to keep someone like Derek Jones, Jr.,
Starting point is 00:55:02 who was fantastic for them, it, again, it makes someone like Daniel Gaffer's life a little bit harder because they kind of have redundant skills, except Derek Jones Jr.'s obviously better because you do it inside out and all that. The last team in this division, and we'll be halfway done, is the New Orleans Pelicans, my team. I wrote reshuffle the deck as a way to phrase it,
Starting point is 00:55:25 because they are, last year we coined them the deepest team in the NBA, at least in the Western Conference. And that's for good reason. They have legitimately eight or nine guys that are very good. The combination of guys are not greater than the sum of their parts.
Starting point is 00:55:38 A lot of talented players that together don't make sense. They found ways to just be really smart and brute force their way into having a good defense last year and work out, you know, strengths around their weaknesses. I think they need to move some guys around and figure out a way to have a team that's a little more concise. That makes more sense. We talk about it at length. Then you need playmakers. They need a new center who's going to be able to fit Zion better.
Starting point is 00:55:59 They need passing, right? All these things, shooting. Brandon Ingram, you got to go. Siege McCollum, you probably don't got to go because it's not a huge marker for you. But if there was a trade procedure McCollum, you might got to go too. We got to empower Herb Jones, empower Trey Murphy. They just drafted Missy who can be their center. Maybe he can start right away.
Starting point is 00:56:15 I don't know. He's young. Maybe that's the key there. You need a point guard. You need one less branding room. I don't know. Not exactly sure what the trade is going to be, but they got to do something big that drastically changes the look at their team around these guys.
Starting point is 00:56:25 This is the upgraded version of the Houston Rockets where you need hierarchy. You need to understand where everything is going to fall. And you kind of have an idea about it, right? Like, Zion is going to be the one after that. How does it fall? Because you said for a long time, Trey Murphy needs to start next season. Like, Trey Murphy needs to be there because he's fantastic.
Starting point is 00:56:47 You obviously have Herb Jones. And then the talent at the top, Zion, B, I, C.J. One of them should go, all three of us thought yesterday, they drafted Missy, which is like cool, right? You get some more athletes. I think Isaac and I were more of a fan of that than you were. they need to get some more
Starting point is 00:57:07 like true playmaking. CJ has stepped into that role and he's done a really good job. Somebody needs to kind of you know, set the table. The 2.35 should be Herb Jones, Trey Murphy, Zion. One in five, let's figure that out.
Starting point is 00:57:19 Something that C.J. McCollum did the other day, something that he said the other day while he was doing his stuff on ESPN was that like sometimes throughout the NBA playoffs to see teams and players get overtax because of either roster issues or like players going down. And he is quite literally him and his team quite literally the definition of that because naturally we all know
Starting point is 00:57:38 he's not a point guard one of the better players in the NBA today but he got certainly overtaxed when Zion went down and even when John was on the court too there were just certain things that he was asked to do that's just simply not his bag would you trade dyson daniels and brandon ingram for dejante murray and ian yka akongwu dyson daniels and who else brandon ingram brandy ingram Dejante plus Okongwu. Yes. As a Hawks fan.
Starting point is 00:58:05 I don't know about if, I don't know if I'm not that in love with Brandy Ingram for the Atlanta Hawks. Because if we can get something like that done, obviously Dejante and Ingram is like the most forecasted trade. Everyone thinks that that could happen. If we can throw one of those big men, preferably Okongwu for the Hawks and we got Dejante, Herb, Trey, Zion, Okongwu. Kind of cooking.
Starting point is 00:58:24 Missy off the bench? Kind of. I'd rather. I'd rather. I'd rather. The Elvarado off the bench. Jordan Hawkins off the bench You can have Hawkins
Starting point is 00:58:32 Taking myself out of this Taking the Hawks perspective out of this If I'm the New Orleans Pelicans I would want to do this in Arby Because Onyaku Kong is a type of big Who isn't clogging up a lot of space And he knows how to move Around the perimeter
Starting point is 00:58:45 And find himself valuable In other ways that don't rely on his Post scoring and whatnot Yeah Okay well that's a Pelicans We know Span less time on them Because we've known for the past year
Starting point is 00:58:55 They've got to change some stuff up We are now three divisions in Who Three more to go We're going to fire through them. You know how it goes. The second half is always faster in the first half. We get tired. Now I got to pee. Next division. The southeast. Southeast. This should be the fastest one. This is the least interesting division in the NBA, I think. What is the biggest weakness of the Atlanta Hawks? Defense, next. Cope. Next. Therapy. Next.
Starting point is 00:59:20 Listen, I like with Alex are cooking, low-key. I thought about overnight. I know again, you went viral on HOHIG for being distraught when they didn't pick Alex R. And I get it, I think Alex Harves me fantastic. But if you have Reese Shay and Jalen Johnson as two big wings around Trey, maybe Brandon Ingram soon, we'll see, that's a formula that they haven't had before, true length and size. They tried it with Cam Reddish and Hunter. This guy stink. I think they're not super far away from being competent again.
Starting point is 00:59:46 And to me, that screams they need to figure out their five situation is their biggest weakness. Yeah. Speaking seriously, they genuinely just need, of course, like, you say the fight specifically, defense is the biggest issue because Clint Capella has regressed drastically on that on that of the court and the last time we were actually a respectable
Starting point is 01:00:04 team back in 2021 was when he was a real I got this picture pulled up this is you this is your bro why my eyeballs are like they've been knocked out of my head that's so crazy you look at those toys
Starting point is 01:00:14 a little gel toys you squeeze them and the eye drop out yeah no I was playing different direction you look nuts yeah I look crazy as hell but no that generally was my reaction because I thought that we had you know someone who
Starting point is 01:00:25 I'm not even going to get into it. I'm happy with what we have right now because... No, you're not. But, you know, I'm going through the motions and I see the pathway of Zach and the things that he can offer to us that we've never had before at that position. We thought we had it with DeAndre Hunter,
Starting point is 01:00:45 but he's so inconsistent with his health and whatnot. But at this point in time, like, we need cohesiveness and just build the ideal Tray Young team. I don't know how high that ceiling can be considering, you know, the playmakers around him. But I think the first step that you have to take also is like trading away Desjante Murray. That's like, that needs to be addressed.
Starting point is 01:01:03 That's the quickest way to get your cohesive. Yeah, that's biggest weakness. Dejante's presence is your biggest weakness. And not good de Jante's bad or a problem. He's very good. The fit never worked with Trey. We knew it never worked. We thought it wouldn't work.
Starting point is 01:01:14 Except then I fold myself and thinking it would work because I'm an idiot and I gaslit myself. But here we are. They got to move him. Who has the Wizards? I think I have the Wizards as well. quick message congratulations to them
Starting point is 01:01:28 they got Alexar Alexar you gained a new hater in me I love it You gave a new hater in me Yeah But Just don't be as bad as next year
Starting point is 01:01:38 You know At this point in time They got Bilau Traded away Denny Yeah Questionable trade in my opinion But you know They got Bubb as
Starting point is 01:01:46 Bub charing as well Pittsburgh And I think at this point in time They just need to go ahead And start to form your identity try to find some type of structure and get a feel for the room. Don't need to make any moves whatsoever. Don't need to trade anybody other than Kyle Kuzman
Starting point is 01:02:00 and get more assets for him because he generally just doesn't need to be there. But other than that, they just need to get a feel for everything and understand what they have on paper. Yeah, that's the biggest thing is there's such a blank slate right now that we can't really identify a weakness
Starting point is 01:02:11 because they're not really trying to be good. Because they're weak? Yeah. They literally coming, last year was year one of rebuild when they didn't have any assets at all, so it was especially stinky. So it's keep doing the thing, right? Do what young teams that rebilling should do.
Starting point is 01:02:25 Take on bad contracts and get future picks. Make smart moves around the margins. Develop your own guys well. Probably trade Kuzma. You can cash in on him. Free up the minutes for Sarr, Kisper, all these guys you just picked. Do a proper rebuild with smart moves. And I don't think Denny of Died is necessarily on the right track there.
Starting point is 01:02:42 I think that wasn't a smart move, per se. So let's get on the right course. I agree with you. Who's next? The Charlotte Hornets, who... Is that you? I have the Charlotte Hornets, and this is one we're spending 30 seconds on. 25 seconds.
Starting point is 01:02:55 Start my timer. I wrote, Find the greatest ankle doctor on the planet. Find the LeBron James of ankle doctors. Give him to Lamello Ball. Other than that, nothing else matters because him not being healthy, hold you back entirely. You have wasted years because Lamello Ball has wasted years of development.
Starting point is 01:03:15 They drafted your guy, Tijon Salon. Not my favorite pick in the draft. They'll say that. Not the smartest picking the draft, I think, given where they were and where he could have been. That's time, that's time, that's time. That's time.
Starting point is 01:03:28 Cut out, cut out, get out, get out. Next team, the Orlando Magic. Who has the Orlando Magic? That's not me. I have the Orlando Magic once again. I wrote, fine shooters and a point guard. We've been saying it for you. Pretty simple.
Starting point is 01:03:43 So they need to find shooters. A lot of these teams were saying find shooting. It's a premium in the NBA. We know everybody needs shooting. They especially need shooting because they have especially negligent. elected it in a way that I find hilarious that for like the past seven years every draft pick they've done is like who's the tallest guy that has the longest arms that can't
Starting point is 01:03:57 shoot you give me it started with Jonathan Isaac it kept on going and it's work right they have a great defense a good coach that has found ways to win around this style then we saw in the playoffs came around and it became a rock fight when you found one team whose lack of shooting was an immovable object one team whose lack of shooting was an unstoppable force and it is combined to be the least entertaining seven games in my life a lot of nerds on Twitter will try to tell you that This was super entertaining. If you like the series, you like real ball, they're fucking lying. It was both teams ignoring the work shooters in the court and letting them take open shots.
Starting point is 01:04:27 It was horrendous. They need to be in a position where you can't beat them that way again. Exactly. And listen, when the shots were falling, the magic are a really good team. Yeah. They fall exactly. 24% of the time they shoot from three, though. So that's a problem.
Starting point is 01:04:40 That is a massive problem. Yeah, most definitely, I agree. Consolidate, you know. Shout to Co-Anthony. Shout to the Anthony Black and all the rest of those guys. but if you're not going to be able to cash in on those shooters through free agency, some trade needs to be made. Go get Anthony Simons, end of segment.
Starting point is 01:04:56 I like that. Next team here. Oh, my iPad unlocked real quick. The Miami Heat. That is me. They need shooting depth. The Miami Heat need shooters as well. All right.
Starting point is 01:05:07 We keep saying that, but specifically shooting off the bench. Yeah. Because you know what you're going to get out of Jimmy Butler. You know what Bama is going to do for you. Tyler is the shooter. And Terry had a bad season whenever he got to him. He was hurt. He also didn't shoot well.
Starting point is 01:05:23 I think with the full off season, he's going to get back to just like regular Terry Rozier numbers. And so having Terry Rozier and Tyler here on the starting lineup is pretty, that's okay. You get to the bench lineup. And that's where it starts to get shaky. That's where you start to see like Jaime Hockets, Caleb Martin, who just, you know, I was like, you need guys who can come in in relief of your first unit and still be able to. who space the floor, still be able to knock down shots, and actually have a legitimate rotation come playoff time.
Starting point is 01:05:54 And Keller is a good start to that. They just added him who should be a stretch five. We'll see how that translates right away. You got him and Kevin Love as your backup forward. She's Kevin Love will start now? I'm going to draw blanks. Kevin Love, no, that's Hayward Heights. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 01:06:05 So you have Kevin Love and you have Ware off the bench. That gives you some good shooting at the front court. Now let's do the back court. Let's figure that part out because we need to find some spaces there for sure. They have a lot of guys who are interesting in their own ways and they know it to make it work. It's the same thing with a lot of these teams that are stuck in the middle.
Starting point is 01:06:19 Find ways to get yourself a little bit better so your strengths take you higher. Yeah, because we've seen with Miami. Every time that they make a crazy run, it's because their shooters decide to be Steph Curry. It's because from three point land, they decide to come alive, and they just haven't had that.
Starting point is 01:06:35 They didn't have that last year. And that was something that has been very, very... I hope to get more to Yovish next year. I hope he gets some lot of responsibility putting his shoulders. I like him. I mean, Hawkees leap. Let's go.
Starting point is 01:06:46 he needs to shoot to be able to leap so but yeah that's the thing that they need to focus more shooting off the bench okay i agree we got two more divisions let's go back to the west the northwest division who has the utah jazz is that me oh it's once again me i forget every team that i have i think their biggest need right now in this summer is to maximize their assets they just got blessed into getting Isaiah Collier at the 28th pick in the draft steal the draft i think he fell incredibly far. Isaiah Collier is a clone of Colin Sexton, Detroit Sexton, I think. You take on bad deals, do the rebuilding team thing, because they have a lot of marketing and they have young guys now that are starting to come together. They have Cody Williams, who should be a great fit there,
Starting point is 01:07:29 Walker Kessler, John Collins, all these guys. They are, so, okay, here's the thing. They have an owner that wants to compete, and they have Danny Aange, who is a smart guy and knows they're not going to compete. So they have an owner that's telling them to make these moves and do these things, while Danny Aege is clearly like, seemingly kind of like, okay, man, we're going to compete, we'll make the right moves. And he just doesn't, and he can say there's no deal out there, but we tried. Yeah. They're trying to balance that right now of being competent because their ownership wants to be,
Starting point is 01:07:52 while Danny Aange knows he should be tearing this motherfucker down and rebuilding from the bottom. And we saw that last year quite literally when they started off, I think they started off either super hot or super trashed and then it got hot and then were trashed for the rest of the season. Yeah. So they need to find a way to rebuild and take on stuff and accumulate assets, but that would be an egregious because if you trade a lot of marketing, their owner is going to go insane.
Starting point is 01:08:12 So you can't trade him as much as you want them to. But you can trade Sexton. You can trade John Collins if he gets to anything. All these things, the same thing we said for the Wizards. Do smart rebuilding stuff. Take on bad deals, get extra picks. Ship out assets that win now teams want. Improve rebuild little by little and be patient.
Starting point is 01:08:27 I kind of like him on Sexson there, though. He could go ahead and teach the Azea Collier. You like him a lot more than the Lakers. I'll tell you that. Why would I like him on the Lakers? Because he would shine. And we'd see him on a competent team. Not competent.
Starting point is 01:08:38 We'd see him on a relevant team that's going to try to win. I like you think that we, that us seeing the Lakers thrive is going to make us happy and it won't. Real quick, did you know the Dalton Connect is a Laker? So the next team in the Northwest Division, I'll go. So I'll go with the Blazers. Okay. So for them, I said wing defense and depth, right? They trade it for Denny.
Starting point is 01:08:57 So you do get both of those things depth and defense. But their guard, their guard rotation is kind of like heavy right now. And they're just trying to figure out who their guards of the future are going to be. You spent the seventh pick on Donovan Clingin. A pick that I think is very good. For sure. But the same way that you have a lot of guards, a lot of guards that you're trying to figure out who you like,
Starting point is 01:09:21 now you need to start building your forward room. I think that Denny was a good spot to start with that. Let's get some more of that. Potentially trade DeAndre Aten to go get some more wings, right? If you like Clingin, that might, that's probably like 1.5 problems that they need to solve, is what are you going to do with that? What are you going to do with Robert Williams?
Starting point is 01:09:38 because, you know, maybe that's a second problem. Figure out what you're going to do with your bigs and then get and then get some wins. They have someone at every position. They should be the biggest sellers at the deadline next year. 100%. Aiton can be sold.
Starting point is 01:09:51 Can be moved. Every Simon can be moved. Your reputation is the gutter. Jeremy Grant can be moved. Robert Williams needs to be moved. Why is he around? Why is Robert Williams there? They have no need for Robert Williams
Starting point is 01:10:08 anymore. Yeah. Down the roster, they have veterans that need to be traded. Denny of Dihop can come in and directly replace Jeremy Grant, trade him to the Mavericks, whoever else, get more draft picks. Klingin can directly replace Aiden, trade him. Anthony Simons is a little more complicated. We'll see because...
Starting point is 01:10:23 Because it's actually good. He's very good. If Scoot's gonna be Scoot, who they drafted and expect to be a star, then he can get out of here. You gotta get Simons up out of here. If Scoot stinks, then maybe you keep Simons around, that gets more complicated. Yeah. But even then, I think they should probably trade Simons, because even if Scoot stinks, you're going to find another guy in the future.
Starting point is 01:10:38 anyways. Simons is nearing his prime. Trade him to Orlando Magic or whatever and continue to get better and find long-term pieces there. Go get down who the drafted last year, uh, Jet Howard and whoever else, maybe Anthony Black, whatever. Like, get young and sell your veterans is what I think. Yeah, I think the thing with Anthony Simons is that we all know he's good and he had, he's a all-star caliber player. I'm not calling him that officially just yet, but he's along that realm. The issue with him is that he is not someone that is the face of your franchise. He's more so, you know, a Robin, you know, or if not a Robin, then Alfred or something like that. To go ahead and give you reassurance whenever your star player is down bad.
Starting point is 01:11:18 And for the proling Trebers is right now, they don't have no star player. So at that point in time, it's just like, you're just here getting buckets and you're here to get your paycheck and you're cashing out. All right. All right. All right. All right division, which I didn't even realize. Let's go. The Denver Nuggets, my team, their biggest issue is quite apparent.
Starting point is 01:11:33 The biggest flaw right now is what are you going to do with KCP and that spot, right? that out today he's officially a free agent last night Calvin Booth did a press conference address and a situation and it was a long-witted answer so it wasn't this black and white part of his long-winded quote was him saying the best teams in NBA history are able to replace their fifth guys who'd make changes in the roster they're prepared to let this guy walk if he gets a huge offer they made that abundantly clear they are prepared for a world after KCP so one their biggest weaknesses can they figure out how to save KCP on this team and keep
Starting point is 01:12:05 their team together if not what are you do to replace him walks. You can start, Christian Brown. Okay. How do you replace that bench step? Because their bench step stinks. The drafts of Doran Holmes who can fix the black hole they've had behind Yokic for years now at the center position. But after that, if Christian Brown starting, your bench is once again very weak. I don't know. They don't have many avenues to get better, but they got to find a way to at least replace it with a competent body. Maybe it's find a way to go out and get Bruce Brown back. There's been a lot of smoke there. Whatever may be, they have to either retain KCP or replace them. Yeah. Keep KCP around. If he leaves for all the reason that you
Starting point is 01:12:43 said, it sets an emotion, a chain reaction or stuff, that it's just not going to be good for Denver. And all of their weaknesses that were exposed during this playoff run, they're only going to get bigger if KCP's not there next year. I don't, it would be very, very detrimental to what the Nuggets want to do. They took a risk this past year. They said, hey, we're going to let Bruce Brown walk, right? If you want to go get your back, go get it. And Bruce Brown would have been extremely helpful off the bench for them this year. Real quick. The jazz are dominating the draft. Like I said, we're recording in the second round. They picked Philopowski. Cody Williams, Philopowski and Collier. Oh, wow. They're in their bags. Danny Angel is a goon.
Starting point is 01:13:26 Whoa, that is crazy, man. Are we about to like the jazz? All right, let's slow down. All right, let's slow down. I'm just saying. Let's slow down. No, I like what they're doing a lot. I like I like what they're doing, but like the jazz? Yeah, I can never like Utah just as like, at a principal, just like being me, being like a Mormon? I feel that. Listen. Why didn't you say like that? Like, anyways.
Starting point is 01:13:48 All right, next thing, who has the typical wolves? The jerseys are coming back? You know what? I give it to you. Those jerseys are hard. Yeah. No, I think you do. Isaac might have them.
Starting point is 01:13:57 Yeah, you have them. Damn, I don't know who I have. No, I don't have the wolves. Who has the wolf? It's not me. Oh, my bad, I had the wolves. That's hilarious. I'm always the guy that forgets until I'm not. I took that title from me.
Starting point is 01:14:10 The Minnesota Turnbulls. So last night we went ahead and we witnessed them. Go ahead and make a very surprising, bold move that we don't see too often from teams that quite literally just made the conference finals. They went ahead and traded for a top eight pick, which was Rob Dillingham. Amazing. And we all know, like, the Minnesota team rules. Who did they follow that? Who did they follow that out?
Starting point is 01:14:32 Yeah. Who was the other guy they picked? Uh, Terran Shannon Jr., which was also like a bread and butter fit that I absolutely loved because of what Terran Santa Jr. represents in his game. But seeing what they did obviously goes ahead. They're preparing for the post like Mike Conley era. Yeah. And Mike Connolly, 6.1 guard and he can go ahead and provide you very stable offense. He can get Rudy Go Berry in the right place.
Starting point is 01:14:59 And he knows how I just, he knows how things operate. He's the savvy. He's the most savvy veteran that you can get right now. but father time is father time and as you all know it seems to be undefeated unless he's like facing lebron james or whatever right i'm lebron james glaze you like that so yeah i think at this point in time they just need to go ahead and develop rob dillingham and terran shane you're a laos fan i'm trying to support you right now you got you know a dalton connect was a laker grow up by the way did you know you're gonna make me be a
Starting point is 01:15:28 dalton connectator but no i think honestly the timberwolves their biggest issue the biggest weakness was bench creation and just creation in general outside of Anthony Edwards on ball, particularly from the perimeter. And they fixed that last night. Rob Dillingham, I think, will contribute right away. He's going to, they said it last night on the press conference. He's going to be in the rotation. He's going to have an opportunity to produce big time and get the minutes. As a six-man spark plug, awesome. We'll see what Shannon Jr. can do long term. Awesome. Because I'll say they need another wing. They got them. Like, at this point now, it's just retain your guys and have continuity. Like, I don't really feel like they have any big issues anymore.
Starting point is 01:16:03 Yeah. Complete? Wow. They were already basically complete. They just had like, you know, small things that made them not be the best team in the West. Clearly, it's a matchup issue though. I have no more issues whatsoever top down. Yeah, I mean, it would be cool if Jaden McDaniels to go ahead and develop a little bit more offensive.
Starting point is 01:16:18 We're not asking to be like a 15, 16 point of game score, but each little threes. Yeah, it would be dope. That'll be cool. But yeah, all the pressure right now is on these rookies. And now also Anthony, obviously, Anthony has to continue to develop. We all assume that he's going to do so. But yeah, all the pressure right now is on these rookies as they go ahead and start to turn the corner
Starting point is 01:16:39 into this next phase of Minnesota basketball, which is just like being consistent, being known, and being around. And we'll do that, you have to hit on your graphics. There you go. The first team with no weaknesses, crazy. Wow. I think we might be talking about this.
Starting point is 01:16:51 Actually, never I'm not saying that. I almost thought that. Oklahoma Seek Thunder is lasting this division. That's me. Who would they have? What's your weakness? I'm only spending 30 seconds on this because we've said it a million times.
Starting point is 01:17:02 and we're going to keep saying it until it happens. Go get a backup big. Yep. Go get a backup big. They drafted, right? They drafted for playmaking, right? They drafted for extra guard depth. Please go get a backup big.
Starting point is 01:17:16 That's all I have to say. Exactly. Their rotation is almost perfect. They traded for two guys that are projects long-term view, which I think is very smart, given the fact that the rotation is already perfect. Literally, just sign Andre Drummond and we're cooking. That's all you need to do.
Starting point is 01:17:29 Get a backup big. That is not big Jaylon Williams. and you're fine. Please. I think y'all have said it, hit it on the money. What's next? Last division.
Starting point is 01:17:39 The Atlantic. 76ers. What is the 76ers biggest issue? This is my team. I wrote Spend That Bread. Their biggest weakness is they have a lot of cap space and they got a way to use it.
Starting point is 01:17:48 Because they are a team with a good foundation. They got the MVP. They got the MVP sidekick in Tyrese Maxi. I think they still, they had the bird rights for Kelly Bray,
Starting point is 01:17:56 if he is. They have putting heield's bird rights. What were you going to say? They drafted McCain last night. They drafted Jerry McCain, right? They have a foundation of something that's working. They have so much money to spend.
Starting point is 01:18:07 We thought it was going to be Paul George coming to this team. They put out in the media that they're not really rocking with them like that anymore. They're not really interested. We'll see that becomes something. They're going to throw a bag potentially at OG Anobie. We'll see if he takes it. I forgot, no, he reached out to Knicks already. Never mind.
Starting point is 01:18:21 Yeah. Opposed to run low. I don't know who's available anymore, but they have money to spend and they need to spend it. Because they didn't buy last deadline because they wanted to maintain this flexibility. This is why. you do that and why you're patient because now they have to spend that money and have to compete next year. Yeah, options are running really low for them now that OG got re-signed and who knows if they're in the running for Paul George anymore because those talks have since then simmered
Starting point is 01:18:46 down a little bit. But if that's not the case, then again, Brayning Ingram would legitimately be a great option for this team. Yeah, definitely. But signing trade talks become a little bit more complicated because then who are your pieces? Do you want to re-sign Tobias Harris and trade them over there? Would the Warren's Pelicans want to be? He is not. Tobias Harris will not be a part of the Pelicans. It's tough. It's tough at this point in time. Okay, Thompson, get ready to speak Philly Cheesesteak. That's what we're saying here. Yeah, exactly. That's probably the option at this point in time. What a grim roll. You pass up on OG and Pascal Seaccom to wait for Clay Thompson. Wow, what a
Starting point is 01:19:18 world we live in? Tough. Very tough. Gary Trent Jr. out here, he's an undertaker free agent. Yeah, and he's one of the best in the league when it comes to knocking down your open threes. My bad. They're going to throw KCP $25 million a year and call it a day. that'll be that's not bad that's not bad that's not bad that's not bad and listen
Starting point is 01:19:35 I was joking but like Clay Thompson if you're gonna you have the money to spend we're gonna play I never mind never fucking
Starting point is 01:19:40 Gary Trent though Gary Trent and KCP on the wings Jared McCain okay Gary Trond would be cool off the bench for sure we can work with that
Starting point is 01:19:48 this team has no stability yeah the opposite they waited too long tragic yeah but again they have so much uncertainty
Starting point is 01:19:54 and so much can change this roster that it's hard to identify like a specific on court weakness because they just got to change your team They just got to use their assets.
Starting point is 01:20:01 Yeah. And right behind that, too, Joel and Bean just needs to stay healthy at the end of the day. It doesn't matter how much to change your team. It all forms with him in his health. Who has the Knicks? I wonder, I wonder. Obviously.
Starting point is 01:20:12 Nobody. Damn, we got to skip this? Tragic. Guess who is the Celtics? Oh no, I'd rather talk about the Knicks. No, okay. So the Knicks, obviously, they're traded from McKell Bridges.
Starting point is 01:20:22 Yes. Are loaded. Just did some good, smart, savvy draft night moves. What is their biggest remaining weakness that they need to dress this off season? So I said that I said that, I would like them to get a backup big because I'm anticipating Isaiah Hartensstein
Starting point is 01:20:34 not being there next year. So I would like a backup big and I would like just a little bit more like scoring up, guard depth a little bit. I like Deuce McBride, not a pure point guard. Now, the Knicks did just draft Tyler Koleck who can come in and be a backup point guard. So at this point, figure out what we're doing with Hartenstein.
Starting point is 01:20:54 If he's gone, go get a replacement. If not, we have no weaknesses. And we're gonna- The funniest trade just happened. What just happened? The Spurs is the 35th pick and the Pacers had 36. The Pacers traded up to 35, one spot, and gave the Spurs' cast considerations to move up one spot and pick Johnny Furphy.
Starting point is 01:21:12 So they're like, listen, I don't know if you want this guy, but we're gonna pay you. Here's $400,000, let us pick him. And the Spurs were like, I bet, we'll go back one spot. Wow. Good job for getting your $500,000. Okay, nice. That pays the bills for like a month for them. Nice.
Starting point is 01:21:24 A bag. It does not fucking matter. Yeah, man. So back up big I don't even think I don't even know if it's guaranteed they're gonna lose Hardinstein you've been trying to say that
Starting point is 01:21:35 because you're trying to jinx it and you want to like be prepared for the worst mentally they might just keep them and they might be completely fine listen that that could happen but seeing seeing the OG number
Starting point is 01:21:45 I was like okay like it might happen because I'm I'm expecting somebody else to be smart and at least like test the Knicks and be like if y'all want Hardinstein
Starting point is 01:21:55 you guys can have them you're gonna have to match this offer And one team, like for the amount of offensive rebounding that Hartnstein can provide and his ability to pass and keep the ball moving as a big, that's very valuable. And so if somebody like the Oklahoma City Thunder, if they wanted to go out and give Hartinstein a bag, that would be amazing for them, right? I think that somebody in the league is going to try the Knicks, and they're not just going to let Hardinstein walk back into this rotation.
Starting point is 01:22:24 We'll see. Our next team, we got three left in this division. the Nets is my team I wrote Tank harder and trade all those assets That's what they gotta do The biggest weakness is they still have Cam Johnson and Dorian Finney Smith in this roster
Starting point is 01:22:37 Yeah We talked about at the top of the show We mentioned the trade Commit right They got to 25 and 26 pickback You don't trade McKill Bridges Unless you're willing to tank And they just gotta do that
Starting point is 01:22:47 They just gotta rip this shit down Yeah exactly Give the ball of Cam Thomas more Play him 40 minutes a game 45 screw it 40 shots a game I love it. Give him the worst habit is imaginable.
Starting point is 01:22:58 So wherever you trade him to in two years, just has the most unproductive player ever because you let him shoot the ball 40 times a night. Sabotage the next guy. Yeah, exactly. Palin Green would love to be in Brooklyn. All right, we can move on. We're talking about the nets at length to start the show.
Starting point is 01:23:11 We don't got to go deeper into them. The Raptors. I have the Toronto Raptors. They're an interesting position because, obviously, they didn't get to select in the lottery. But this team, right here went ahead and made their move with Immanuel quickly already and they just need to go ahead and prioritize him but more so like holistically speaking for this team they just need to
Starting point is 01:23:35 continue to find their guys and figure out who is literally going to be long term for the team because RJ Bird is cool and we saw him go ahead and transform transform his game in this new motion offense that it that prioritizes ball or spacing and movement and all that other stuff movement but you know we need to see consistency we need to see of we need to know who the guys are alongside scardy barnes right now we're not a hundred percent sure other than like iq who's great yeah i don't have much to say about them i don't know they're just they're in a weird spot man yeah yeah and i also like the draft pick they pick uh jacobie walter yeah you got some shooting to play alongside uh man you quickly and scotty
Starting point is 01:24:14 barns like you they kind of seem on track right now yeah it's not really a problem we just kind of have to see what's going to happen you can be real patient right they're in a rebuild that doesn't have some of their picks because of some really stupid moves they made to get Yacopo and whatnot. That was so dumb. Yacopo. Ridicably dumb. It could have been
Starting point is 01:24:29 Rob Dillingham on this team. Yeah. But yeah, but damage is wait and see you right. Keep building the right way. Do smart stuff like Acquire and R.J. Barrett and rehabilitate him. Do all that stuff that you've been doing and just keep it up. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:41 Last team. Who is it? The Celtics. I have the boss of Celtics. And we can keep this on really sore because they went ahead and did what they needed to do already. They re-signed Drew Holiday in the middle of the playoffs. They're going to go ahead and pay Derek White. He dessert.
Starting point is 01:24:55 What he does. There's a massive bag. Welcome to TikTok time. I was already there. Bro, crown eaters, let's rejoice. Look just straight to it. Welcome to TikTok time. We're back again.
Starting point is 01:25:09 As we have as of late, as usual, we're going to start with the draft. And today, we're going to do a 24 NBA draft draft. Ooh, so we're drafting all these new school rookies. Exactly. Players, we haven't watched play a single game in the NBA. We're going to try and draft NBA lineups with only guys who were just selected this week. Oh, Ronnie James. I like that.
Starting point is 01:25:30 You're on watch for me. So, yeah, the draft order is Donovan, me, Mo. Real simple, but you guys know how it works by now. Let's draft NBA lineups with only 2024 NBA draft picks. Donovan, who's up first? Listen, none of these dudes can choose. So I'm going to get the shooter in the draft. Give me Reed Shepherd.
Starting point is 01:25:48 Oh, you just ruined my plan. I need Reed Shepherd on my team. God damn. We're going to put Reed Shepherd at the two right now. You know what? That's fine. I'm going to pick the biggest competitive advantage that none of you guys have a guy to answer for. Give me Zach Edy.
Starting point is 01:26:02 Of course. This dude is the biggest Zach Edy bunch that I know right now. He's 22. He's the best player on the board right now. None of you guys have a player that can guard him. No shame. Okay. Don't need to guard him.
Starting point is 01:26:12 Anyways, we're going to go ahead and suck the real number one overall pick. Alex, sorry, you're an Atlanta Hawk in my draft. Let's go ahead and do it. All right. So after Alexar, snake draft record, it's going to loop around. I think I want someone who's going to give Zach Eady absolute hell pick and roll every single time. Rob Dillingham, you are my point guard.
Starting point is 01:26:38 Whoever offense on Rob, I so get his ass. I got Alex R in the background. Don't worry about it. Okay. Give me the guy that can lock him down in his sleep. Stefan Castle in my point guard. Okay. I can't let you pay Castle.
Starting point is 01:26:52 That'd be ridiculous. That's how I'm trying to do. That's what I was trying to do. You go ahead and take Klingin. That's all I should do. Exactly. Give me, give me Klingin at my center.
Starting point is 01:26:59 I'm going to get the only guy who can go toe to toe with Edy. I take Klingin at my center. And then, hmm, you know what? Give me, give me an athlete. Give me my favorite prospect of the draft.
Starting point is 01:27:13 Give me Ron Holland. Ooh. Okay. Good, going to put Ron Holland at the, at the three right now. At the three. Oh, we're throwing up bricks.
Starting point is 01:27:21 Let's do it. It's a three. Okay. Give me the number one pick. Give me a research of AMI3. Why are we letting this guy fall? Take Harrison Barnes. That's fine.
Starting point is 01:27:29 Give me Harrison Barnes. If Harrison Barnes is in this list, he'd cook all these guys. I'm joking. You just got, 20 minutes ago, you said Harrison Barnes was one of the worst starters. We love it. We love it. We love it. All right.
Starting point is 01:27:45 So at my two, I got Rob, I got Alex Saar. Go ahead and give me another strong shooter. Shooter. I'm sniping you right now. Give me Jared McCain at my two. You think you're sniping me? You can have them. Yeah, bro, I got it all-around graeme.
Starting point is 01:28:00 I can go ahead and defend the paint what Alex are. I can go ahead and have so much creation in the perimeter with Rob, and I can make fire TikToks to Jared, too. You can't do that. I dare you to try to switch a screen when I put Zach Edie in pick and roll, whoever offense on either of these guards. Oh, you're tripping. You're gently over there.
Starting point is 01:28:16 Jared Alice. Jared McCain is so solid. Yeah, or Zach Edie's down low. You're going to have to switch. Oh, trust me. He can't even, he can't keep up. pick uh so for my next pick i need a four and well i don't need a four necessarily but someone who i want to go ahead and give me even more spacing because yo i am stretching you out and go ahead and
Starting point is 01:28:38 give me connect give me your guy connect your four no give me i'm having my three oh okay i'm number three for sure that was that's kind of crazy hey yo I was kind of what we're talking about basketball okay well I was definitely going to pick him next tragic go ahead and give me give me Boozellis in my power forward give me best player available that's solid that's solid okay I got length and defensive versatility around Zach Eadie she you're throwing up so many bricks though hey I reach a shay just I got one more spot left for a shoot you know what no nice Matt Barnes. All right.
Starting point is 01:29:14 Here's what we're going to do, right? We're going to put Ron Holland at the four. We'll put Ron Holland at the power forward because at three, give me Cody Williams. Oh, damn. And then at my point guard position, see, this is interesting because I have two ways that I can go. Give me the guy who I think should not have fallen as far as he did last night. Ronnie James? Give me Isaiah Collier at my point guard.
Starting point is 01:29:43 Okay. Nice. Human Reed is nice. Okay. It's a great fit. I got hella size, hella defense. I need spacing and off the dribble creation. Give me one.
Starting point is 01:29:53 Carlton Carrington at my shooting guard. Who? Bubb Carrington. Thank you. There we go. One of the best names. I just want to say Carlton. It's a funny name.
Starting point is 01:30:02 I like that. Give me a little bit of Bub. Okay, you did that really bad. Your team is wonky, not going to lie to you. No, it's at least wonky. Your team is definitely walkie, bro. I got three, six, seven defenders. Defenders.
Starting point is 01:30:12 Anyways, off the dribble shooter and Zach Eadie. At the four, go ahead and give me Duran Holmes. I need a spacing. I value that hella, obviously, I have so much versatility on my team. I like the word playing right now. Your team is tiny. Food. You have no spacing.
Starting point is 01:30:27 My spacing is just fine. Who's the second best shooter on your team? Bob Carrington. I don't. Yeah, you're speaking. You can't say anything. No, no, no. Once again, your team is the worst.
Starting point is 01:30:40 There you're good. My team is the worst? You fumbled Alex. It's not better than my team. You fumbled Alex Sarge. I have dogs. I have dogs. You all outrageous.
Starting point is 01:30:47 My team is actually nice, bro. I mean, they're all fine. You can't play each other really well. What are you talking about? Me and me and Donovan are cooking for the best team. I don't know who. Yeah. I really wanted to reach Eppard.
Starting point is 01:30:55 But I had, I had to. This is a premium. I think you messed up picking Connect and McCain. I think you should have been Connect plus Cody Williams. Then I would like your team a little more? Oh, no. I got to have connected on my team. Lakers stacks.
Starting point is 01:31:06 I know the fans. You should have took off McCain. He's playing to the crowd. No, no. Who this, man? Yeah, you lost. Okay, listen, you can't win them all. I got the third pig, bro.
Starting point is 01:31:17 I always get screwed. You got Alex Saar out of it, though. I got Alex Saar for sure, but... You should have picked Saar, Rises Shea. You dealt your emotions. Why are you jeeming my team right now? Mind your business. My bad, I let you sell.
Starting point is 01:31:29 I like it. Next thing we're going to do, we're going to stick on the topic of the draft. You know, like I said, we had the big draft stream last night. Go watch it if you want to see our full reaction to every single pick. It was great. But what we're going to do today is we're going to grade the top 10 picks in the NBA draft I would do 1 through 30 but we don't got time for all that. It's going to be a 4-hour podcast.
Starting point is 01:31:47 1-2-30 will be nuts. It would be sick but we don't have time for that today. So the top 10 plus a couple other extra picks I thought were worth talking about. We're going to grade them. So real simple. Let's grade these NBA draft picks. First off, we got the Hawks picking Reese and Chea at 1. I can't give this an F because this is the guy who they wanted since day one apparently.
Starting point is 01:32:07 You look like you're giving it an F when you're on Hustle highlights crying. I wasn't crying. Those were tears of joy. You don't know how to read emotions. That is the issue, my brother. I would go ahead and give this a solid C. For sure, because when you think about number one overall picks, they do not match his profile on what the Hawks project him to be. Man, that is so dire and lazy to me. I'll give this an A. They needed players that can fit with Tray Young. They're not a normal team picking up one. They have a star. You're not going just best player available. You're not rebuilding. This guy fits with every team you want. He's a big wing that can shoot. We pretend it's not value. all of a sudden because it's not a Palo Bencaro pick, there's no one being this draft. This is a perfectly fine pick for a team that's trying to win now. I think if that's the case, then you go ahead and clearly trade back and you get as much assets as possible, then, you know, that's the right way to go ahead.
Starting point is 01:32:53 Go back to what, too? Play back to whatever it is you want, because you can go ahead and settle for players who are similar archetypes as him. There's a reason every team is trying to pick this guy top two, he's going to be value and he's going to be good. He's going to be good for sure. But I think there's other ways to go ahead and achieve the skillsets that you want. but I still think it's going to be good.
Starting point is 01:33:09 I just personally will give this like a solid C. 6-9 great shooters don't grow on trees. I don't know if there is any other ways to achieve that. I'm giving this a C because it's a number one overall pick. You got you, I think you're undermining what a true number. No, it's not emotional. It's not a motion.
Starting point is 01:33:22 It's just straight emotion. It's clearly, it's the backup plan. That's what it is because if the Hawks really had their pick, right, if Alex R didn't dump them before the draft, they would have taken him. But Alex Rar was like, no, I'm actually good. And they were like, okay. If they wanted him, they could take him.
Starting point is 01:33:36 You went to their second office. because you were scared about Alex Tsar, and it's okay. So it is what is. Alexar is not Eli Manning. C plus. He's like a demanded trade if you pick him. They could have picked Sar if they really believed in him. And I think they just liked the six nine shooter that doesn't grow on trees more.
Starting point is 01:33:51 That's what they told themselves. I bet you they feel the same way. They were like, oh, yeah, yeah. I like him as a prospect overall because every single team would literally thrive with him on the roster. But when you just think about a number and overall pick and what it's supposed to represent. That doesn't mean anything. That means nothing. What does, if it means nothing, then we won't have picks in the draft.
Starting point is 01:34:11 What are you talking about? Number one pick, there's value to that because you have first dibs on picking someone who can genuinely change your franchise and this guy right here is not changing. Nobody in this draft is changing your franchise is the problem. Players could. You never know. What do you mean? This is a perfectly fine bet.
Starting point is 01:34:23 You're speaking too soon and I disagree with it. And you're speaking too soon and you're speaking to research day. No, I'm not. I'm just saying this is a good, this is a solid C. It's not A like you're making. It is not. Yeah, you're saying A, that you're blowing it right. It's not a perfectly B plus, whatever you want to call it.
Starting point is 01:34:35 This is a perfectly fine pick. He also has no swagger, like the suits. I'm dropping him down just for that. My man, I didn't. I didn't cry for ORA in my pick. Come on. Yeah, no. Next pick.
Starting point is 01:34:45 Alex Saar, one number two. This is an A. This is an easy A. I mean, you have no one competing for his minutes. You have someone who, again, matches a profile, which, what their tenets go for, length, tall, French. There you go. French is on their scouting report for sure. Or is, bro.
Starting point is 01:35:03 I'm going to A because this is a really good combination of best player available and fit with our roster right now. Obviously, the Wizards are in the rebuild. Everybody fits. But like to have a good foundation defensively is really important. And so I think that this is a good pick for me. Yeah. They were in the perfect scenario. There's two of the guys the top everybody wants that are valuable in their roles. You get whichever one isn't pick number one, you have no stress in your life. Did you pick whoever's left for you? Got to be an A. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:35:33 No pressure. So good pick. Good job, Washington. Look at you. You guys were aggressive all night. Yep. Number three, Reed Shepherd going to the Houston Rockets. Is this a back-to-back A?
Starting point is 01:35:43 For me, this is a three-peat. Another A, this is the clearest prospect pick in the draft. They have a million guys down the roster. There's so many prospects on the Rockets right now. You don't know who's going to rise to the cream of the crop, but whoever it is, I guarantee you Reed Sheper will fit well with them. He fits well with everybody. If anybody was going to come into the league immediately and perform,
Starting point is 01:36:00 Rechepard is has to be on the short list of guys like he's he's he's a shooter and shoot a shoot and he's going to go in and help the Rockets and improve improve their the shooting in the back court potentially not potentially he will be a piece for them to build on in the future it's going to be good. Yeah when your best players is a a post hub picking a DHO hub guy like Sangoon and then athletic guards picking the best shoot in the draft is easy and if your team like that he was in the Rockets which apparently don't know if he's generally the guy for the future Sangoon You can do whatever you want. Whatever plan you envision them leaning towards in the future, Reed Shepard, is applicable to every single plan.
Starting point is 01:36:37 Exactly. Next up, number four, Stefan Castle, going to the Spurs. Solid B, could call it an A. I might call it an A because of who the Spurs are and what they value. Size, defense, obviously, that comes first and foremost because they don't believe they can get far without that. So I call this an A for sure. I'll go B.
Starting point is 01:36:56 There's a world where, no, Stefan Castle has made it clear he wants to be a point guard. If that works so well and he can be your lead playmaker, this becomes an A because we're looking at Drew Holiday. But there's some concerns about the shot, the playmaking, the first step. That's enough of way down to B to me. He has a high floor, but the ceiling is still TBD. They needed anybody who can bring the ball up 94 feet.
Starting point is 01:37:16 Cefon Castle can at least do that. You can dribble all right. I think this is in it. I think it's in it. No, but if that shot comes around, this is Drew Holiday. This guy's going to be so good. Yeah, this is a solid A. Even if, like, the shot never comes around.
Starting point is 01:37:29 He's still going to be a very productive of the NBA player. I don't know if he'll be able to maintain the starter status or whatever. But even without the shot, he possibly could, depending on the rest of the construction of the roster. Sounds like a beat to me. High floor, but the ceiling is TBD. I give it a B plus. Fair enough. Number five, we got Ron Holland going to the Pistons.
Starting point is 01:37:46 Unexpected, but kind of dope. Listen, I'm happy for Ron Holland because I like him as a prospect. The fit is going to be crazy. Nobody can shoot in Detroit. If, just like for everybody in this draft, if the shot comes around, this is A plus. But I'm not sure how this is going to work with him, Ivy, Cunningham, all the guys over there in Detroit. So I will give them, I'll give them an A minus because they still did get the best player available at 5. Him and Asar might be generational clamps, but it also might be generational ass if neither of them learned how to shoot because you cannot play them together.
Starting point is 01:38:21 So we're swinging for home runs here. This might be amazing or it might be a total flop. Yeah, I mean, me personally, I would go ahead and give this a B. You got, of course, a SAR, Zaden Ivy, Duren, whole, like you said, a whole lot of non-shooters. Yeah, you're right. But he looks cool, though. And...
Starting point is 01:38:41 Real Jack, nice shoulders. Reminis the Andre Drummond, I guess. Yeah, we were like, oh, he's got giant shoulders? Dwight Howard. That's the fact of the Saturn Report. Exactly. Yeah, man, they have a lot of guys that can't shoot, but not all those guys are worth prioritizing.
Starting point is 01:38:57 So if you can get the best player on the board right now that was slipping for no reason, you take them. I'll go A-minus with you. Next up, and number six. Tijon Salon, going to the Hornets. They needed a difference maker, like pretty much day one, if not already, bro. I don't like this because he's a clear,
Starting point is 01:39:17 he's clearly a project pick. He shot like 37% in his last basketball league from the field, 32% from three. scary hours if you ask me I'm going F I think this pick was horrendous not that I there's a world that he can be a good player
Starting point is 01:39:31 if he can the shot stays around if he can shoot threes at that six nine frame with a huge wingspan and can harness athleticism defensively he can be a good player he can also be Kevin Knox
Starting point is 01:39:40 and I think you can take that swing but if you're gonna do it trade back he would have been there at 10 he might have been there at 14 picking him at 6 when you know damn well he wasn't gonna go at 6
Starting point is 01:39:51 at 7 or 8 if you passed up on him to me it's malpractice and you could have got more valued by this pick yeah this isn't about him exactly right it's more about the hornets needing needing somebody who can come in day one and produce for them and this is where he was picked like if you're going to take the swing don't take the swing at six yeah he very well could be a great player later on the future but it doesn't matter at this point in time it's about the decision behind the idea to go in and take someone like him it's the decision the idea that they were brewing in their head
Starting point is 01:40:19 and they allegedly and they allegedly turned down more assets to make this pick. Yeah. Yeah, the Walsh said the trip was we're trying to trade up to pick Klingin. They picked Klingin next. So that means they called
Starting point is 01:40:31 and we're like, hey, we want to go to sick. We want our guy. And they were like, now you're good. We're not going to take them. Don't worry about it. You're good, bro.
Starting point is 01:40:37 You're chilling. Like, what kind of stupid as GMing is that? Yeah. It's dumb. So I'll go D. Yeah, I'll go D because the player within itself. I don't want to do too much.
Starting point is 01:40:47 But it's not about him. That's fair. I just hate bad process. And that's horrendous process to not trade back a little bit at least and get some kind of asset had the opportunity it's yeah i'm fan of big swings so i don't hate taking him it's just the the value proposition is not there at number six i agree i agree now number seven we got donovan clinging going to the blazers this is it's an a for me i i really like this pick for portland i think that for a team that
Starting point is 01:41:14 is still in the rebuild and you have a lot of assets on your team with contract that are tradable and that can help other people. Klingin can sure up your big rotation and he can be a great defender day one and it allows you to be more flexible with the rest of your roster to go get more assets to keep your rebuild going. I like it.
Starting point is 01:41:36 And yeah, it makes it so you can immediately trade Aiden and Robert Williams because you have your big of the future. You can get more assets, get more young guys. They're going to be able to be big sellers in the deadline and that alone makes them in a really great position. If he can be this Rudy Gaubert Redux clone, then even better. I agree. This is not a bad pick at all, bro. Again, consolidate. They're going to have to make consolidates and trades, like you said. There's no way this pick ends up being bad in any light. Yeah, he might be the highest floor prospect in this draft. He's going to be a good rim protector, probably no matter what.
Starting point is 01:42:07 Somebody in the West has to stop Zach E. So. Exactly. Please. Please. Number eight, we have Rob Dillingham going to the Minnesota Timberwolves via trade from the Spurs. The Timberwolves just made the Western Conference finals. And they selected a top 10 pick. It's an A. It's an A. Immediate A. This is what you do when you're a contending team and you have future assets.
Starting point is 01:42:32 You cash them in now get better, but also getting younger and having longevity to your core now that you can replace Mike Colleen in a couple years and you retirees. A plus plus. This is an amazing deal. Your starting point guard is 65 years old. You needed a backup plan. And they went out and they got it. This is quite literally, like, a great way to go ahead and usher in the next generation.
Starting point is 01:42:53 And speaking of the next generation, I'm not going to lie. I'm calling it out right now. Rob and Anthony Edwards, they're going to get glazed to oblivion. Oh, my God. Yeah, it's going to be nasty. What are they going to call them? Is it like, I'm thinking of, like, Disgusting Brothers from Secession and they're like the Oro brothers. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:08 They call on. We'll think of something. They call on Dilley right now, which is kind of hard. We will have a name by the end of the summer. We'll get over a little bit. Yeah, man. It's a great deal. Number nine,
Starting point is 01:43:20 Zach Eadie, going to the Memphis Grizzlies. Take the floor. Go ahead. This is a steal of the draft. A plus plus. It's going to be a star. I love it. Now, in all seriousness, this is a great pick.
Starting point is 01:43:28 You have an interior force that has some of the most strengths we've seen for a prospect in a long time. And you have the perfect big next to him to hide his weaknesses. It's a home run swing for me. I think it's great. I absolutely agree, bro. This is your guy. You can have the home. I love Zach Edie.
Starting point is 01:43:45 John Morant is going to love this dude. I love all the escape passes when he has nothing to do when he just caught up in the paint. Just throw it somewhere, like you said, Zach Edy is there. The Grizzies are going to be one of the best teams in the NBA, and we're going to look back in a couple of years and be like, had this happen, it's because we let Zach Edy fall to them. Thanks. Them screens, man, damn. Those screens, those offensive rebounds, those rolling in the rim, those post-ups. He's going to be a better shot blocker in the NBA than he was in college.
Starting point is 01:44:09 He's going to be great. I agree. Man, the Grizzies are going to be in the conference finals next year. They are. They're going to be amazing. Top two seed in the Western Conference? It's them in the Thunder, I think, and the Nuggets, obviously. That's the top tier.
Starting point is 01:44:21 God, man. Next pick at number 10. Who in number 10? I forgot. Oh, yeah. We have Cody Williams going to the Utah Jazz. The Utah Jazz. This is an A. Quiet winners of the night.
Starting point is 01:44:33 Yeah. Right? For me, it's either them or Minnesota in terms of winners. And they addressed a whole bunch of needs. They got a lot of talent. Cody Williams is a great player. We believe in the entire Williams family, right? We're big J-dub fans over here.
Starting point is 01:44:49 We're a big C-dub fans now. Yep. Good job for Utah. I like this pick A. Dubnation. Yeah, there's no way in hell that this pick right here ends up being bad in any light. Even if he doesn't reach up to his potential, the cutting's still there. The defense that he could possibly go into is going to be valuable.
Starting point is 01:45:05 And the shot eventually has to predict is going to come around. I feel like I'm giving everybody in A. Like, somebody is not going to hit. I don't know. It's not going to be Cody Williams, though. This guy, I think, is really good. Got slept on a little bit because of strength. concerns people saw he's really light really skinny they're like oh god i don't know if i can
Starting point is 01:45:19 pick him that high i think i don't wait just fine i'm not concerned about that at all he's an efficient score could be a good defender with that length it fits perfectly next to somebody like liar marketing exactly i hundred hundred percent agree damn a's on a's tough number 11 modest boozellis going to the chicago bulls i'm sorry today it's a day they were able to get the best player available this is a guy who's mocked to go five and they got him at 11 right you got him in the in the second half of the lottery and for the bulls hometown hometown kid somebody who also if the shot comes around can be amazing but even even if the shot doesn't become step curry like or you know elite elite shooting mighta still does a lot of
Starting point is 01:46:06 really really good things and you just need new interesting pieces in chicago yeah so for that reason for that reason i'll give it a day and nobody in the in the top of of the draft fumbled everybody did what they're supposed to do like except for charlotte yeah my bad i forgot we shit on charlotte but outside of that and listen we didn't grade the spurs for trading out of eight that's debatable if that was a good move or not but almost everybody did some good moves up here usually the chicago bulls end up doing the worst stupidest thing that you can imagine every single time they never let us down there so consistent when it comes to doing that but this is right here was generally a great a great one because of course like the length is there for him
Starting point is 01:46:46 If a shot comes around, we're having entirely different conversations about him, and we're going to look back in the draft and talk about how he should have been top three, that minimum. I'll go B-plus, though, because he's a boomer bus player, and they're in such a weird spot with the organization. Who knows if they're thinking long-term or short-term right now? If Modis can shoot, star in the making probably, good chance you can't shoot. If you can't shoot, you just traded for Josh Giddy. You already got Kobe White, who has to play on ball.
Starting point is 01:47:13 If he can't shoot, you're looking at somebody who's going to have a hard time fitting next year. other young pieces. So it's enough of a swing that I'll go be. He's just Lamarodham. Yeah, type of shit. Lamardom would not be a good fit with Josh Gideon and Clubby White. I'll tell you that. We should not be making decisions about our future. You're goddamn right. You're goddamn right. You're goddamn right. We shouldn't. And they're not. That's why they
Starting point is 01:47:32 picked him. Yeah, one more pick. I want to throw on here. Steal the draft. Dalton Connect going at 17 to the Lakers. What are we grading this? I mean, this has to be an A because he, again, was projected to be like a back-end lottery talent, but I'll let you go ahead and take it. What do you think? I just think this is going to be the next great white shooter in NBA history. I think we drafted potentially the goat, potentially JJ Reddick with HGA hormones. I think we just transform our team overnight. We have the Savior, honestly. I think it's going to, it's up from here. Severeigns are going to be. Savior is crazy. The Savior. Wow.
Starting point is 01:48:06 Him and Austin Reeves are going to transform this team together, hand in hand. Disgusting brothers, it's going well. Oh man, it's going to be white boy summer for real. You lit right now. No, I mean, it's obviously great. The Lakers had zero connection in Dolphin Connect in their scouting department because they did not think this guy would be available. They were blessed to have him fall to 17 in a way they never expected. He's the immediate fit. They needed shooting and they needed backup big.
Starting point is 01:48:30 They fixed one of those right now with one most dynamic shooters in the draft who could contribute immediately given his age. You have J.J. Reddick there, who is the preeminent off-screen shooter is the last 15 years in the NBA. He can draw plays to fit this guy perfectly. It's a hand-in-glove fit. I'm probably no longer don't have to. to watch Cam Reddick's moment right minutes anymore I went through that same pain and
Starting point is 01:48:50 struggle I was what did he oh you did damn oh my god trifecta that's crazy camera no longer team by team with the Green Reaper also have to watch rehatching mere minutes at least not as much of it this upcoming season I know I will that's not changing here JJ Redick will do his thing and it looks are going to be on the side and we got JJ we got Austin Reeves we got connect we're trusting him who's next we're trusting them All right, this is the last one of this segment. Next thing we're going to do. And we talk a lot every year about the NBA City jerseys,
Starting point is 01:49:21 and we grade them to start the year. And typically, we don't like them as of late. I was looking back at previous years, there's some years we had some good city jerseys. The past two years have been so astronomically shit that we've kind of forgotten about that. Okay. What we're going to do is,
Starting point is 01:49:34 I'm going to show you guys two city jerseys from over the years. You're going to tell me which one was better. Okay. So we've got like five years in this experiment. We got a lot to choose from. So, real simple, which one looks better. First off. We got the Boston Celtics versus the Bulls.
Starting point is 01:49:49 See, I actually... I like the Celtics one. What? I actually do. I think it's much better than the Bulls jersey. Are you the Lucky Charmers mascot? He just showed his true colors. He's a Hogwarts fiend.
Starting point is 01:50:02 That's what it is. This man to slither in. Yeah. This Bull's jersey is a Kool-A jersey. Bro. His name is O'Malley. I do not like it. I don't like the big logo, the big logo our front with the small number in the front.
Starting point is 01:50:20 That's not my vibe. No, these are both horrible. I don't even care which when you pick, honestly. These are both atrocious. The Bulls one looks like you get it at a team store. One of those fake jerseys, they're like pink or something. That's exactly what looks like. Yeah, no, it looks like a lollipop jersey.
Starting point is 01:50:32 I don't mess with it. I don't miss what either. If you want to go ahead and say the Boston Celtics, cool, I'll let you have it. I abstain from the selecting because I hate both these jerseys so much. Yeah, exactly. I just wanted to see who would say something first. Why are you something like that? because you know you say something first.
Starting point is 01:50:45 I'm just trying to participate in the game. I just want to cook you. O'Malley. Next one. We got the New York Knicks versus the Wizards. It's the Knicks one. It's the Knicks. The Wizards is cool as hell, though.
Starting point is 01:50:57 It is cool. I like the wizard. They're both good jerseys. Some of the best of, like, the recent years. This Knicks jersey is hard. I get it. The Knicks is incredibly hard. I love Kiff.
Starting point is 01:51:08 I'm going cherry blossom. I'm going to cherry blossom. I, yeah, I think, I think this wizard. You've never seen the cherry blossom a day in your life. I've been to Epcot. I've been to the Japan section of Epcot. I like the Wizardser Jersey. It's definitely more unique.
Starting point is 01:51:22 You live there now. It's different. Just because I lived there, don't mean I rep D.C. still. I still keep it on a low. But with that being said, generally speaking, I like Washington. It's innovative considering where they have been. Bright colors is a big home run swing. Sometimes you hit.
Starting point is 01:51:37 Sometimes you don't. This one hit. This is an amazing jersey. It's kind of sad that we're never going to see this again, that it's a one-year jersey. depressing for Wizards fans. Maybe they need to do something about that rule. I know. Well, they can't bring it back.
Starting point is 01:51:49 Some teams have brought them back before. Bring this one back. But the next, the Knicks, the Nix jersey is super dope, super nice. It's one of the best jerseys in the league. All right. I don't know. Next one. Next up, we got the Nets versus the Nets.
Starting point is 01:52:04 Hmm. Okay, the throwback is better than this one because the black version of this best I won was hard. I don't think it's I don't think it said best side. I think it just said Brooklyn on it. The black version of that is the one that's the one. This throwback, the Navy blue, that's fire.
Starting point is 01:52:22 Bro, the Knit, Nets had the best jersey in the NBA for the last six years or so. I've been saying it. All of these city jerseys are tough. Pick whichever one you want. I love them both. I'm not going to lie. You took me back with the black bedside jersey
Starting point is 01:52:34 or broken jersey back. That was prime D-Lo days. I'm not going to lie. That's benched. That's benchbox. One more time? Mm-mm. To be honest, I generally can't pick it because they're both so hard.
Starting point is 01:52:50 No, I'll go Navy Blue too, but it's tough. The Navy Blue is so clean. I'll go to lie to you. It is. All right. Next up, we've got the Bucks versus the Hornets. Cream City or CLT. Quit.
Starting point is 01:53:03 All right, someone's at the quiet part out of that. Come on, man. I think I want to lean towards Cream City. You're a big fan? You frequent? The colors are nice. The colors are nice. That's not what you asked. And that hint of blue, too.
Starting point is 01:53:19 I'm not as close to what I asked. Can you answer this question? And also, I love the font of Cream City. What is this specifically about Cream City that you enjoy? Do you go to Cream City often? I think that this team represents... Can you define Cream City in a sentence? I think that this team and what they...
Starting point is 01:53:35 When's the last time you went to Cream City? What is Cream City? Uh-huh. Yeah, I guess. also fit Cream City. The CLT jersey, on top of being hilarious, it's ugly as fuck. It's horrible. It is nasty. Doesn't it stand for like the Charlotte airport? Yeah, it's, they mean Charlotte. Ugly as fuck. Yeah, nah. Come on Charlotte. They kind of do so many other things. Why the letters gold? It's terrible. I think the gold letters ruin this for me for sure. Yeah. Cream City, you let the fight another day.
Starting point is 01:54:03 What's next? We're at the Mavs versus the Miami Heat Ransom Note jersey. The Miami Heat for sure win this battle. Do you? Yeah, they do. Yeah, they do. do. We're going mid on mid here. I don't even know. These are both horrible. They're not mid. They're not mid.
Starting point is 01:54:19 It's just bad on bad. You're right. It's being generous. Especially the Mads lose. We're going to Miami heats, but we're not feeling good about it because Miami also sucks. But this MAV's jersey very well might be the worst jersey in NBA history. The MAV's jersey gives me like subway surfer vibes. You know that little kid just running?
Starting point is 01:54:34 He definitely created this jersey for the Dallas matter. This is a blueie sponsorship? This is ridiculous. At least with the heat, like one of the letters is cool on the jersey. jersey. One of the letters? Right? Which one?
Starting point is 01:54:46 Yeah, they took bits and pieces from cool jerseys. And so you can kind of, there's just a little bit of it. That's like, it's like 3% cool. That's a good way to decide it. We got one good letter on the Miami jerseys. We have approximately zero good letters in the Mavs jersey. Sorry. And simple math, one is better than zero.
Starting point is 01:55:01 We're going Miami. I can't they, I can't believe they let, they made Luke and Donches wear this jersey row. Burn all those pictures. Forced them. This is why the KP experiment failed because it was last year there. KB did have to wear these. Yeah, he didn't like it. He sent me out of town. I don't blame K.P.
Starting point is 01:55:16 And he wore the gold ones, too. Those are crazy. Oh, those Lord of the Rings jerseys. Dallas is weird, man. Dallas is a horrible organization. All right, next up. Weird city. The Spurs versus the Spurs. Hmm.
Starting point is 01:55:30 They're both super clean. I think I might lean towards the right. This all white is super clean and super simple. And the font just really suits. I'm going to the white one. I'm not thinking twice about it. This white one is a million times better to me. I hate the font on the front of the Spurge one, and I hate the fact that the colors are all different colors.
Starting point is 01:55:47 It's a great concept that's doing just a little bit too much. That's what the Clippers do. I don't like that. It's horrible. You can't have any association with them. I'm going with the white one. The white one is tough. The white ones is like the 70s throwback.
Starting point is 01:55:58 It looks like we're working at a record shop. I fuck with it. I do like that. Got some bell bottles on with it. It looks like the Wild Wild West. Yeah. You get that feeling. I like it.
Starting point is 01:56:05 I don't even remember any players really taking pictures in this blue one for real. Kelvin Johnson was on the front of it. And Derek White. They burned them. Yeah, let's just go with that. They burned them. They'll get the evidence. All right, yeah, we're easily going to white one.
Starting point is 01:56:19 Last, next one, not the last one. Clippers versus Minnesota. Minnesota wins kind of easily for me. Really? I don't think this Minnesota jersey beats anybody easily. It's pretty mid. I like it. I like the clippers.
Starting point is 01:56:33 I think you're tripping. I think you're just saying, no, I just don't like clips. But, okay, you're right. The rest of the jersey is cool. I just don't. but you got to give it to them. Yeah. The clippers one grew on me.
Starting point is 01:56:45 I'm not going to like, when it first came out, I was like, this is toothpaste brand. This is horrible. But it looks really clean on person. The orange stands out well. They have an orange court. The little hints of color really work and really make it look good in person.
Starting point is 01:56:56 Yeah, the Minnesota jersey looks like they're quite literally representing like public transportation. I don't like those colors. When you make a PowerPoint or like Word, that's one of the few fonts you can change to and it looks horrible. It does remind me of like,
Starting point is 01:57:08 like this is like a Cassio jersey. You know what I'm saying? It's a very like cassette. tape jersey. That's a good comparison. When you play 2K my team and people make custom jerseys and they all look horrendous, that's what that's what comes out with. Dang. Clippers win. Finally, finally. Wow. Finally something good happens to the Clippers. Next up, Bulls versus Pacers. Nice. We got two black jerseys. One is not doing enough and one is doing entirely too much. Where do we pause? We are going with the Bulls. This, this Pacer's jersey is doing too much.
Starting point is 01:57:40 It's doing too much. I don't like the sides of it. This should. Chicago is actually passable. I don't think it is. I think that Chicago one is honestly horrific. It makes me mad. It makes me mad for sure. I look at the Indiana and I'm like, I see what you're going for. It's not.
Starting point is 01:57:52 At least they tried, right? But I can understand, you know? This probably means a lot to the city of Indiana. Where did we stray from each other? Because we used to be lockstep. And we don't think the same anymore. And I'm kind of worried. It changed.
Starting point is 01:58:06 No, this bulls one is fucking dumb. Where was it? There's so much dead space. The alignment is ridiculous. It's boring. It's ugly. It looks fake, like many of these other ones look bad. It looks like you get it at Payless.
Starting point is 01:58:16 At least Indiana had a vision, and they went for it. And they're RP Payless. Yeah, Chicago's jersey gives me... Is Payless dead? Yeah, no thing. No, it's still there. Is Payless still here? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:58:27 We're back up. Yeah, for sure. Tap in, for sure. I went there like a couple weeks ago. Airwalks are still in stock. Airwarks, what? That's crazy. Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:58:38 Shout out Payless. I'm sorry. I'm taking a break. Payless near me. I feel like to see a painless system. Or go Indiana. Yeah. That's so crazy.
Starting point is 01:58:46 Next up, we got the Orlando Magic versus Minnesota Timberwolves. The Cowboys versus Dirty Sprite 2. These are both elite jerseys, if you ask me. But I'm leaning with the Minnesota Timberwolves because this is generally probably a top three jersey in the NBA right now. I agree.
Starting point is 01:59:01 Why do the Orlando Magic have a Dallas Cowboys jersey? I don't know what we're going for here. It's not ugly, but why is it a Dallas Cowboys jersey? I have a confession. I hate it on these. Wolves jerseys at the start I like them now I like them now these are these are hard these are hard I'm going with them I also can't associate myself with the Dallas Cowboys any sense of the word so we're going Minnesota Minnesota easily I love it yeah we usually
Starting point is 01:59:28 we usually don't like the blue and fading into another color but this you sold us yeah this genuinely gets a pass there we go and that's the last one we got here city jerseys I hate the Cowboys. Next thing we're going to do, Mo, prepared a rankings for us. You were going to rank the top 10 young cores in the NBA post draft, aren't you? Yeah, so obviously a few things change. Not too much, but a few things change, and now we have to go ahead and sit down and reassess which teams in the NBA have one of the better young cores?
Starting point is 02:00:01 Not going to say one of the worst, but we're going to keep it to strictly 10. There's really the top third league, so it's really the best ones. Yeah, exactly. So I want you guys to go ahead and sit down. down. Lock in. Let me know where my rankings lie. Okay. All right. Who's number 10? Nice and simple. These are my top 10 NBA young cores. Okay. Number 10, we have the Portland Trail Wazers. Okay. Something just calm. I need to see who's at nine before I was right. It feels a little bit low, right? I feel like I feel like scoot and clean is a good starting point.
Starting point is 02:00:31 And you add sharp. I still got scoot stock, but I guess if you don't have as much, I can see why you're a little bit lower. Yeah, I mean, they do have, they have a lot of pieces. You know, they just traded for Denny. Sharper's still there. Anthony Simon's still there. But there's still so much brewing, and they don't have that guy just yet, even though they have a couple guys. Yeah, I'm not sure Scoot's not that guy yet, but I know other people are a little more concerned. I got to see it first. I got to see something good. We've just seen a bunch of crap. Like, there has to be a slimmer of hope. I understand. Exactly.
Starting point is 02:00:59 I'm just like assuming it'll get better, but we haven't seen it. Yeah. Speaking of something good, the tornadoes, they are at number nine. They have Scotty Barnes, and he's pretty much carrying this because RJ Barrett is there. 24 seemed to be 25 years old. Emmanuel Quicks is there and they just selected Jacoby Walter. Good player, but Kobe White, I said Kobe White. Scotty Barnes is carrying heavy right now. Yeah, when you got an all-star on your team, you're going to be a top 10.
Starting point is 02:01:22 Yeah, exactly. No choice. Not like it's a deep core, but there's an all-star there where most of the teams can't say that. Yeah, exactly. I agree. Yeah, I think I would actually prefer, like if I was starting a team, I would like to have what the Blazers have rather than with the Raptor tap. But like you said, Scottie's in the pudding.
Starting point is 02:01:38 Scottie's an all-star already. That's what you always build for. You've got to take that. Yeah, exactly. I agree. Potential versus star in hand already. Exactly. So number eight, I have the Orlando Magic.
Starting point is 02:01:50 For some reason, I really wanted to put them higher, but then I looked at all the other things. They're not higher. They're not. I have them in number eight. I got to see who you have above them because they also have an all-star. Go to seven. Go to seven. Franz, Suggs.
Starting point is 02:02:01 They should be top five. It could be top five. But we'll talk about that. We'll talk about that. They could be some shifting down. I'm not 100% sold on my list. I was most trying to walk in Atlanta, Magic. Can't tell me what to do, brother.
Starting point is 02:02:12 My knees are weak right now. Just did like they. So at number seven, again, another team with an all-star. The Indiana Pacers, Tyreece Halliburn's there. He's carrying heavy, of course. Tripping. Nemhart is there. Jarrett's there, who has, I really love his potential.
Starting point is 02:02:29 I got them at seven. Magic, you're above the paces for me, and I'm not thinking fucking twice. You're buddy. Palo is just a good for prospect as Tyrese Halliburton. Franz Wagner, way better than whoever you're putting second on that list. Jalen Suggs, I'm taking over who are you putting second on that list. Yeah, I'll flip that. Not going to flip it now.
Starting point is 02:02:47 Too much confusion. But that's what the list came out to so far. I can agree with that. Your first L, we'll keep going. Okay. So, hey, you call on an L? I can't change my mind? No, no.
Starting point is 02:02:57 You're just heading on it. Yeah, right. All right. So coming up next at number six, the Houston Rockets, they have players on players on players. They're one of the dearest teams in terms of, yeah, I need these in pairs. You have to start saying five and four. I just need you.
Starting point is 02:03:12 Who's ahead of that? All right. Five and six. Pelicans, then order the Pelicans, Houston Rockets. So Pelicans are five? Because Zion? Yeah. Zon and carrying heavy, and obviously, Herb Jones is there and Trey Murphy.
Starting point is 02:03:22 Yeah, that's fair. You know, his ceiling is. Yeah, I feel like the rocket should be higher, but when you're telling me the pelicans are both, that makes sense to me. Okay. Yeah. I can understand if you want to have the rock attire because they just have so many young players, Sangoon, Jalen Green, Tariessen.
Starting point is 02:03:35 Of course, we didn't even mention. They locally have the deepest young corps have ever seen. literally do. I've never seen like a nine-man young core. It's kind of crazy. And we don't know if somebody's going to be as good as Zion yet, but they have so many bets that, like, I want to take those many swings of the bet. But I respect it. Zion can be a five. Who's four and three? So at number four, we have the San Antonio Spurs. Carried heavily by Victor Wenbanyama, it's Victor Wenbanyama. They're not top three? They should be top three, but I can't put them three just yet. Number three, we have the Minnesota's and rules. Just made the conference
Starting point is 02:04:07 finals, being led by Anthony Edwards, who is blossoming right in front of our eyes. And then, of course, Rob Dillingham, Jada McDaniel is there, Nasriah is there. Pretty deep, proof and concept. They just went to the U. U.S. Okay. That's fair. Listen, it's fair.
Starting point is 02:04:19 I think Wemn'Eet will be better than Anthony Edwards long term. But you just named four other guys that... That the Spurs. I know. You look at the Spurs. I know. Stefan Castle, you might be Drew Holiday. We'll see.
Starting point is 02:04:30 Devin Vassell, you are Devin Vassell. I like you a lot. And, like, very much, I ain't a lie. This season, Wembe could easily leap the Minnesota Tribal's Young Corps just because he's Wemby and we can't do anything about it. But for now, I'm looking at those other guys like Nas reading and I'm paying in respect.
Starting point is 02:04:47 Yeah, and they have a guy that we know is already a top 10 player. Listen, Wembe's not far behind, I think, but Anthony Edwards and a good supporting cast earns their spot in the top four, I get it. Yeah, exactly. So at number two, we have the Memphis Grizzlies. Not much needs to be said, absolutely stacked.
Starting point is 02:05:01 Dem and Edie, adding them to already one of the best young cores. Yeah. John Moran, Jaron Jackson, 24, both. All-Stars, bro. It's not as bad as what I thought it was going to be. They got two All-Stars, a soon-to-be star in Demi-Nidi and Desmond Bain. They're cooking. Yeah, and we even talk about G.G. Jackson.
Starting point is 02:05:16 We didn't talk about Vince also, bro. How could we not? They're crazy. Yeah, they're crazy. And the number one easily has to be the Oklahoma City Thunder, bro. Shea's there. J-dub, Chet, Kaysen. They just got Topic.
Starting point is 02:05:28 I didn't even mention Louvre. I forgot about them. Yeah, they're still there. She's actually too old to be in the youngs. He's 25. Okay, typically we doble up. But whatever. Shee, Chet,
Starting point is 02:05:37 and J-dub alone is ridiculous. That's a legitimate big three of soon-to-be stars. All the guys you mentioned after that, that's crazy to have that after having legitimately three stars. Yeah, exactly. Good job, good job. Your only fumble was the magic not being high enough. Good job.
Starting point is 02:05:52 My bad. Yeah, me personally, I don't know if I'd want to keep the Toronto Raptors there. I might want to, I might want to go ahead and kick it. You're just going to take that? You're just going to let him do that? I don't want to shake his hands. Look at his hands.
Starting point is 02:06:04 What was that time you watched your hands? Like 20 minutes ago. You're lying. But no, yeah, I like this list. I like this list. Yeah. It's crazy that the Hornets aren't on it anymore. If they would have capitalized on their pick yesterday,
Starting point is 02:06:20 then I would feel so much better. But when you're talking about the young court, it's just two dudes that little of them can't stay healthy on it. A contender has made a move. Who? The Denver Nuggets are trading Reggie Jackson to Charlotte for three unprotected second round picks. Oh, yeah. That sounds to me like they're cleaning of space to,
Starting point is 02:06:37 keep KCP and not be in the second apron, but we'll see. We'll see. Okay. Interesting. Well, that's the end of that listing. That was one of the best rankings you've done so far, one of the least controversial. Super fun. People were very mad at my last ranking right to the top ten redraft of 2020, 23, because I didn't put Jaime Hawkes top ten.
Starting point is 02:06:51 Or Keonté George. I don't give as much fuck about that. But they also were mad about Bajemski. Bajemke was my number 11. I only didn't go 10 because of fit with the Mavericks. People think Jaime Hakez is like 19 or something. Like, he's going to be the superstar. People were crazy about him.
Starting point is 02:07:03 Dude, he's going to be in his prime in like two years. He's in his prime. Okay, that's a good player, but if he's 12, that's fine. It's completely fine. Okay, one more segment, and that is Donovan. I believe you have some embarrassing moments for us to talk about. Yes, listen. I'm going to list off these embarrassing moments.
Starting point is 02:07:22 I want you to rate them 1 through 10. Okay, based on how embarrassing they are? Based on how embarrassing they are. Okay. First one, the Los Angeles Lakers fans yelling no at Russell Westbrook when he got the ball in the corner. Oh, I, 10. I feel so much residual shame thinking about this as a Lakers fan. Anything that makes you remember the Russell Westbrook era is just PTSD.
Starting point is 02:07:43 Don't mention that again. I've never seen a home fan base yell at their player. That my way. That's a 10 out of 10 embarrassing. Yeah, I'm not going to lie. Talk about a way to shatter a player's confidence. That right there would do it. Yeah, it's also embarrassing for the fans.
Starting point is 02:07:59 Like, why would you do that? That's so counterproductive. Yeah, it doesn't help in any way at all, bro. And he actually didn't shoot the ball, right? He just passed it along. No, he shot it and he missed. Naturally. As he's one to do.
Starting point is 02:08:10 Damn. It's a bad time for it. Hence the nose. It's a bad time for us. He's in a much better place now. All right. Second. Second up.
Starting point is 02:08:17 J.R. Smith leaving the bench to go dapp up Jason Terry only to have his man score a bucket on him. I feel inclined to say 10, but it's J.R. Smith and we give J.R. Smith attacks because he's hilarious. So I'm going to go eight because I can never hate on J.R. Smith too hard. No, this is a nine to me because he's clearly went ahead and built up. A fantastic resume of just funny, embarrassing moments that you didn't think was humanly possible.
Starting point is 02:08:42 But he finds a way. And this is why he's one of my goats. As soon as you think Jera Smith is as aloof as he's ever been, he finds a way to be more aloof. Yeah, exactly. A loof squared. Constantly. True. I like that.
Starting point is 02:08:53 All right. Spencer Dinwiddie playing so bad that Streets are saying he was on strike. Oh my God. I forgot about this. This was hilarious. They said he was on a hunger strike, but on the court because he wanted to be traded. hunger stride this is when we was he was legitimately trying his best and they're like he is sabotaging us was this with the nets yeah yeah oh that's sick and the funny part is it's not
Starting point is 02:09:14 true people just assume so because he was playing so below his expectations didn't he asked for his contract to be in like cryptocurrency he did that's the embarrassing part yeah that's right there that should be on this list that should be on this list for sure i'll go a five for this one it's not too bad because it wasn't true but it's a hilarious thing that we could even assume could be possible. Spencer did with you, man. He used to be really good. He's still decent.
Starting point is 02:09:38 He's not terrible. What do you do for the Lakers? Defended, cardio. He was a ball handler. More cardio. He threw the ball into AD. Yeah. It got to point B.
Starting point is 02:09:49 Yeah, nothing else happened. No advantage was created, but the ball got there. Next one, Denzel Valentine, thinking that he was the MVP of the league, taking a three-quarter shot to win the game. Zero. This is not embarrassing. I respect it. I respect it. Respect. I respect Denzel Valentine. Confidence. Be the man you want to be. Speaking into existence, take those shots. You miss every shot you don't take, especially half-court buzzer beers. Now, with that being said, you will be cemented in NBA history for all of the wrong reasons. You are one of the most popular memes in specific context, bro. And it's hard to go ahead and do that. The best shooters of all time, make the three less than half the time.
Starting point is 02:10:31 I don't know if I want to say 10 or zero. I'm lost. That's terrible. That shot is not respectable at all. Next one. RJ beat R.J. Barrett being the definition of mid. Carmelo Anthony called him bland, said he's either going to score four or 26. The next two games after he did that, R.J. scored four and 24.
Starting point is 02:10:51 And didn't he admit to it? Was he like, damn? Maybe he was right. He got me. Listen, when they're right, they're right. You got to give it to him. Yeah. I'm going to list this a zero, though, because, hey, he owned up to it.
Starting point is 02:11:03 That sounds like consistency to me, and that's what I want in my locker room. I want a guy who I'm going to know what I get from him, even if it's not good half the time. Exactly. You can never say R.J. Barrett surprised you. Next one up. DeAndre Aiton setting fake screens and just getting cloned for it. That's it. That's all I think about whenever I see that. He is a definition of looking busy at work.
Starting point is 02:11:26 He's at home working remote. He just wiggles his mouth around every 30 minutes? Yeah, exactly. this is an eight, but it's more embarrassing for the Trailblazers because they played such unseries basketball that if you were a Trillvision fan last year, second-hand embarrassment all year. It was a horrendous product. I'm just envisioning happening right now, but I just, like the cameras are all around here. They're fans watching you as well, bro.
Starting point is 02:11:48 He was out there just protecting himself from a nut check. That's all he was doing. This is a nine, bro. All right, we got the Brooklyn Nets trading all their picks for Kevin Garnett and Paul Pierce, only for those picks to be Jason Tatum and Jayton. Daylon Brown. 12. This is the most embarrassing move in NBA history.
Starting point is 02:12:04 This is led to a title last year for the team nobody wants to see win. Generational embarrassment. Like if I was, was it, who was the GM at the time? It was the one that works at ESPN now. Bobby Marks. If I was Bobby Marks, I probably wouldn't work in media anymore. I would just give up in basketball. They bring it up every time the Nets are doing stuff.
Starting point is 02:12:21 They're like, remember that time that Bobby messed up? That's crazy. Yeah, this is easily a 12. You know they got your mask. I was going to worst paid them all time. all time. That was trading with the Celtics. That's your means.
Starting point is 02:12:37 We got Kevin Durant making Daniel Gaffer do the splits after crossing him over. Yeah, this is when Daniel Gaffer was in the Washington Wizards. It's not going to lie. The pictures and the angles, whatever photographer was assigned
Starting point is 02:12:51 to this moment right here was in their back. All up in the air. Oh, God, it looked like a hard-ass album cover to me. This is a 10. This is tough. There you go, I'll go with them. That's a 10. We have the entire FX series about the Los Angeles Clippers.
Starting point is 02:13:08 This show, the whole point of the show is to just, like, shame them and embarrass them. It's like we're purposely embarrassing them on national media. It's hilarious. Not going to lie, what makes this even worse is seeing how off the characters look. The most embarrassing part is the Blake Griffin casting. Why does he look Dominican? Why do this to Blake Griffin? There is zero like Blake Griffin.
Starting point is 02:13:27 Bro, Chris Paul Looks us like Every black new With the fade Just looks like a random guy I looked like him You could have been casted bro
Starting point is 02:13:37 Exactly Oh man All right Last one I have to show you guys This And we will show you guys In post
Starting point is 02:13:46 Yeah Jordan pool The Jordan pool Oh I think I know What this is This is where he slips It falls It's a 360 lamp
Starting point is 02:13:54 And it's not loading All right Well sit down Because we got to do The camera I'm right For the TikTok So sit down
Starting point is 02:13:57 Oh, yeah, so yeah, Jordan Poole. You could have shown me any play from the 2024 Washington Wizards that involved Jordan Poole and I would have said 10. I hate talking about Jordan Poole now. RIP, man. Not RIP, but I mean, I'm going to give us a five. Well, that's a 10. That's a 10. He had a plan and he had a vision.
Starting point is 02:14:25 He just couldn't go ahead and... I just need the platform. Exactly. He just needed the platform, and it was given to him, but... Where did that vision go? We got cataracts. Grandma knocked it out of them. Don't happen over.
Starting point is 02:14:38 That's a horrible play. That's it. That's all I got for you. And that's all we have for you for you for the show. This is the end of the episode. If people who are still here, what should they comment? Dap up, Mo. Don't leave me hanging.
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