The Deep 3 Podcast - 1 Question That Will Define Every NBA Team's Season | Ep. 108

Episode Date: September 27, 2024

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We've done it. Once again, we've fought through a tough, tumultuous time that we like to call the NBA offseason where brave soldiers like us must podcast despite having no source of news, no source of content. We must be brave in the face of adversity and yap nevertheless. And now, today is Thursday, September 26th, and NBA Media Days are officially back. I think we can say we have reached the preseason start of the year. We did it. They don't understand what we went through. They really don't understand. Listen, it is so hard. Nobody struggles like an NBA podcast here in September. It is so hard. Everybody, listen, according to the fact that there were no trades, not really any leaks, apparently everybody's happy, right?

This is the time of the year where if you were ever happy as an NBA fan or a player, you're going to put on your best performance at Media Day. We need the chaos. We need the pettiness that the NBA brings. and listen we are back without the chaos without the pettiness without the shenanigans

and random NBA Twitter nonsense it leaves me with no purpose it's just dude running around in the minute exactly dude running around his shorts I almost went ahead and picked up a couple shifts at the restaurant nearby bro I didn't know what to do with my boss

bore back As soon as I see me today I just like in the back of my head I just feel stringer bell just being like put the word on the street we back up in the podcast but yeah man

so with that being said with the NBA season really being here I feel like we've entered the 2024 2025 season portion of the show so with that being said

we are going to do the next month of content being essentially our season previews you know a lot of channels they do like a division by division episode where they preview

each team we're going to do a little bit differently but you're essentially going to get that we're going to start today with giving you guys one question that will define

every single NBA team season so very interesting because obviously there's a lot of question marks going into a new season right i try to narrow it down to like i said the one question that'll really be the deciding factor for each team whether it be a team of trying to contend can they you know win it all if it's a rebuilding team can they find their start of the future and so on one big question okay listen i got my questions written down i got you good i'm prepared yeah i hope so i just want to let you guys know that i'm prepared another thing that we want to let them know is that if you're on auto if you're listening to this on audio

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Yeah, with that being said, let's get into one question that will define every single NBA team season. The cranium is crazy. Oh, my God. I mean, I don't know what to say. Pray on eaters, rejoice.

All right, y'all. So you guys know how it goes whenever we do these episodes where we go through every single NBA team. Each of us has 10 teams. Pick that random. We're going to take turns going through it until every single one of your favorite teams

has talked about. Mo, you can go first. What is your first question and what is your first team? Let's just get this out of the way, the Detroit Pistons. All right. I love that we're starting

on the highest note possible. Terrible for watch time. But let's just get it out the way. Detroit Pistons, we kind of alluded to it during our last stream, TD3 Tuesdays at 6 p.m. Eastern Time tap in.

We alluded to it, when we were talking about Cade Cunningham and totality-wise for the Detroit Pistons, what is your identity? You need to find something that you're really, really good at,

whether it be shooting the ball. Obviously, it's not going to be that, but rebounding. Are you going to be good at defense? Are you going to be good at, you know, causing havoc in the passing lanes?

Pick something to be good at and lean towards that, bro. Point way period. That's a good answer. The question is, what is going to be your strength? What is your identity?

Like you said, because their identity last year was just incompetence. Everything Monty Williams did was bad. They ran these awful two big lineups that had no spacing. So you know, goddamn well, shooting wasn't going to be their identity. Even with two bigs, they weren't a good paint defense. They weren't a particularly good rebounding team. They didn't get back in transition and use that size well.

Like, they just failed in every single accord. And, you know, I think a new coach coming in that you can, there's, let's say, a mix of opinions about. But he's a guy that oversaw a young rebuilding team in the Cavs, J.B. Bickerstaff and made them competent. whether or not he's going to be a guy that's going to be there long term and he's going to be like an elite coach we'll see but i guarantee you he knows the same thing you just said right they have to find identity and find a strength what do you think it's going to be honestly you have to sit down and look at the players in the roster and what the cohesive unit would be able to be good at now you sit down and you're like okay ron hallin jaden ivy and then you have uh a men thompson thompson fantastic athletes some of the best athletes at the guard position guard wing position that the NBA has to offer. And then around that, you have obviously the centerpiece in Katie Cunningham.

So honestly, when I see this team, they need to be fast as shit. They need to run up and down the board. There's no reason why they're not, why they shouldn't be top 10, top five really in the NBA and pace. Even though Kate Cunningham, who is the lead ball hand over there, isn't the most explosive guard or whatever, you sit down and you can look across the other conference in the Western Conference with the Luca Dodgers on Dallas Mavericks. As soon as they added Carrie Irving and Jason Kidd, you know, did his thing.

They were one of the fastest teams in the entire league. And Luca Donchitz, as you all know, is not one of the fastest players in the league. Those two things don't equate. It's just a play style overall. And that whole thing needs to be revamped. I'm so glad you said that. Because for teams who obviously don't have the amount of talent, that's like out hustling, out hustling teams and just running fast, honestly, can get you a lot.

You see it so many times when teams play above, you know, their pay grade because they just outwork somebody on a random night in, you know, in February. And you look at the Pistons roster. They have four people on their roster who are over the age of 25. This is a young team. Y'all should be running every day. There should be nobody who's saying, I'm tired, right? There's limited back-to-backs.

Tobias, if you need a day off. right because listen you're old you're the old guy you're 32 in the in the locker room everybody else right you got 19 year olds on this team you have 25 years 23 year olds everybody should should be running so i think yeah that's a perfect point though like they they need to be a track team this year if they want to you know find a little bit of success because then i think from there then like once you start playing fast and you kind of spread things out then you give everybody more space to figure out individually what you're good at. And then as a front office, you can build off of that. Yeah. Yeah. And obviously the biggest thing for them is like they have to be a better

shooting team. And now they have Fontechio. They have Tim Hardway Jr. They have to buy his Harris. Shout out of Fontecchio. And they have Malik Beasley. Not the best players in the world. But, you know, that's competent shooting from veteran players, which is exactly what you need. And yeah, like whenever the Kings first got feisty a few years ago, when they had Dave Yeager, they were just running. They weren't very talented and nobody thought they were going to be good but they ended up being like a nine seed or eight seed I forgot what it was and it was a shock to the world because those guys knew effort we're gonna maybe we'll make three point shots maybe we won't maybe we'll defend well maybe we won't but we will run every single play and that's exactly what was talking about as an identity it's a good

floor not a great ceiling for an elite team like if you're looking at team trying to contend you wouldn't be like run a lot that doesn't really translate to a playoff setting but the pisses don't need to be fucking worrying about the playoff setting right now they need be worried about getting 20 wins the season and running will help them do that i promise what he's such a man bar yeah that is crazy that is crazy you said david that just brought brought back some real deal memories i as soon as you say david i think oh john lured those prime detroit piston days bro but yeah i just checked online um on the NBA site there were 27th last year in pace and below them to no surprise are all the other worst teams in NBA the pistons are i mean the hornets then you have the uh blazers and

all the losing teams. There's no reason for these things to do so. It's because they played Isaiah Stewart and Jalen Dern together. That is ridiculous. They need to never do that again. My biggest question for the pissens is, are you smart enough to never once play those two guys together and let Isaiah Stewart be your back of five, like permanently? Now, they're going to do it. They going to do it. It's going to happen once. And it's not even going to happen once because of like accident. I think legitimate, I think legitimately, J.B. is, he's just going to play it. Like, I think that he will, he will try it and just see, like, can I, can I play a lineup and can I get away with this with, like, imagine that lineup and then, then you have, like, THJ or Tobias Harris. And you might look at that and be like, okay, well, maybe I have.

It's just the worst version of the Cavs. I know, I know, which is where he, which is where he's coming from. And maybe he says, like, with this team, if I have Cade and two competent veteran shooters, maybe I can get away with two bigs. he's going to try it and it's going to be a legitimate lineup for the Pistons I'm with you though I think that I think that J.B. will be smarter

than Monty in that he won't stick with it if it doesn't work which it probably won't okay that's fair I guess I'll go my next one my first team I have is the Miami Heat my question for them is can the Terry Rozier

slash Tyler Hero back court work in any capacity because last year it did not in fact it was fucking atrocious and it was honestly the worst move of the season at the deadline, which is crazy because we graded it as one of the best moves. We were excited. We saw that go and we were like, wow, Terry brings them the exact amount of shooting with the ball in his hands, off ball shooting, on ball shooting, you know, just back court depth of offensive skill that they needed desperately.

And it was a tire fire. It did not work in any capacity. Last year, they were minus 4.8 net rating with both them on the court because they had a 121 defensive rating, which is outright terrible, would rank them amongst the worst in the league defensively if that was what they had for the whole season and they only had a 116 offensive rating which is mid those two guys just never mesh together I think the whole talking point for the year was Terry Rozier's shot wasn't falling when he got there

which was a problem but not the biggest problem the biggest problem is defensively it could not work ever because those two guys just think about it you have two small guards who are known for their offense and are competent defensively at best there's no point of attack defender there's no size in your back court which we know know in the modern NBA you need, especially if your team isn't going to be a super high

powered offense either way and you're going to find your identity defensively, it can just never work. What you're telling me right now is that Bamadabio is getting overlooked for defensive player of the year because he has to come for these guards who do not play defense at all. I think like, yeah, I think like that specifically for the heat is 100% like necessary because we've seen year and year out, well, not year in a year out, but we've seen over. the last couple years that Jimmy Butler's health in the regular season is not the most consistent thing, right? He's in and out the lineup a lot. He misses long stretches of games

for a long time. And I think if that is going to be like your franchise player going into this year, right, like your offensive hub, whatever, you need something. You need you need support around him. And it's just not that that's the reason why they tried to go get dame because they wanted a guard. They wanted a guard who can give them offensive firepower. And Terry, for the price that they paid, was incredible value. For sure. It just didn't work out. And so you at least need his shots to fall. If the defense is not going to be great, somebody has to make some shots. Yeah. And they're a team that, you know, we talked about the pistons. It was like they got to find their identity because they're at a starting point so unbelievably low that they're just trying to

make something of themselves. That he are not in that situation. That he need to be contending for a championship every single year that Jimmy Butler is on this team. His contract is far from a guarantee that he will be on this team next year. In fact, it's looking kind of likely that he may not. So your window is as small as it can be to contend with Jimmy and Bam. It might just be this year. And you made that move, you gave up a future pick. Terry needs to be the guy to make your offense top tier. And I do have faith that that'll come around, right? Him and Tyler Hero are both, you know, versatile enough that they can figure out to play off each other and be those complimentary guards like you said. But defensively, I'm not sure. Like, there's a reason this

will define their season because it's far from a guarantee that the defense is ever going to come around. And it's just weird because it's not a Terry problem and it's not a hero problem individually. It's a both together don't work. Because if you take out Terry Rozier and have just Hero, Bam, and Jimmy Butler, their defensive rating was 11 instead of 121. That's absolutely insane. And then if you, but also, if you take out Tyler Hero and have just Rozier, Bam and Jimmy Butler last year, the defensive rating was 112. So, One small guard, you can defend elite. Two of them is looking like it might be extremely difficult

given your other wing defenders are like Hayward Highsmith. You lost Caleb Martin. Duncan Robinson isn't an elite defender by any means. How are they going to get around that? I don't know. They could. Yeah. Along with that, too, I 100% agree.

That is a very glaring hole that a few teams in the NBA have. And that just automatically puts a ceiling to how quality of a team they are. but I'm looking past that also and I'm looking at their training staff the strengthens the conditioning coaches the medical team what do they tell their players they must tell them like yo an apple a day gets the in keep the injuries away

that shit is a lie this team not eating those apples either exactly someone's not doing it out of them bro I'm looking at this medical team I'm looking at everybody like behind that arena thinking what do you do with these players when they're supposed to be stretching Are y'all just playing, like, subway service or something like that?

Because I don't have any stats back this up, but I'm pretty sure if I were to look it up, it would back it up. This team has had so many injuries and has had so many different starting lineups last year. It's ridiculous. How can you have any type of consistency when Tara was here, even when he first landed there, got hurt and he missed a chunk of games. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, it's not even Tara Rozier. It goes back to Jimmy Butler. It's like pretty much everyone in the team is really inconsistent when it comes to their health outside of band.

out of bio who was keeping them afloat alone yeah a lot of unknowns they're a interesting team because it's like every single season we have to guess if they're going to be great or are they going to be terrible they're going to be terrible they take turns not terrible terrible is extreme are they going to be mediocre or are they going to be really really good and like a dark horse in the east they flip a coin every year last year the coin landed on tails and they were pretty much irrelevant in the playoff setting i don't know this year and i don't feel comfortable ever really giving you an educated opinion because it's just a flip of a coin thanks that's my name donovan who your first team.

Listen, we're going to start with the champs. We're going to start with the Boston Celtics. And I want to know, legitimately and accurately, how long is Chris Stops Pozing is going to be out? Because. Yeah. Always out. Forget.

He's a misstart of the season. If he is not there, right? Obviously, you have to go into your bench. Al Horford is at a stage in his career where, and you saw it a lot in the playoffs. They played him a lot, and teams were like, hey, Al, come here, come here, come here, come here, come, come here, come, come here. And it's like, let me talk to you right quick. I'm not trying to fight. I just want to talk.

I just want to talk. And I think doing that for, what, 40 games, 50 games, asking Al Horford to, to. Well, if it's 50 games, they're, fuck. That's, that's terrible. Again, I don't, I don't know how long it's going to, is going to be because that, that injury that he has was it's one of like the most rare injuries that you can that you can have like nobody had ever heard of it it had some crazy crazy you know medical language and the fact that he went out and played on it i'm sure like you know it's it's probably healed a little bit since the finals but without porzinger's there

this is already a team that was that was top heavy you had the best top six in the NBA and then everything fell in line after that if you don't have poor zingis there you are asking everybody else to step up. And I don't think that they're going to have a problem stepping up or winning games or anything like that. But they won 64 games last season. How far is that going to drop? The Sixers are going to be better. The Knicks are going to be better? We'll see what the bucks do. Are they still going to be in contention for the one seat? Are they going to accidentally put too many miles on Al Forford in the regular season? Are they going to find the depth that they need to? Luke Cornett. He is disrespecting you and I will not sit and tolerate it. You have not seen Luke Cornett before.

It's really all of the questions that come off of the absence of Porzingis for them. And so that's all I want to know. Yeah, I guess the question there is, obviously, you know, there's Celtics. There's a reason they're the favorites win in championship again. They're great and will survive without them to some extent, whatever that looks like. I guess the very question is, are they going to really save him for the playoffs? Because let's say he can come back in 20 games. Does he come back in 20 games and play 15 minutes a night for the next 15 games?

and like really, really go slow so he's 100% available for the playoffs because we saw they could win with Adam last year they made the finals whenever he was missing games in that run. But it's, you know, he's not super reliable to be there. And I think winning one title without him

being a big part of it until the finals is one thing. To have an extent of success and when multiple chips like they hope to do, you're going to need Christoph's thing as to be there. So how are they going to handle that when it's almost a guarantee that you cannot go a complete 82 games plus 16 more in the playoffs

with him being fully healthy healthy for the whole time so do they almost like redshirt him for the playoffs like go really really slow you might you might have to and that's the that's the question I want to know is like is how available is he going to be because it's going to mess with

it's obviously going to mess with seating it's going to mess with like do we see a different version of Jason Tatum do like do we've seen Tatum kind of take a backseat in terms of being like I have to go out I have to get 27 And it's been more, listen, all of us are really, really good.

And whenever it's the five of us out here, or, you know, you're bringing out, whatever, we are some of the best five-man lineups in the league, and we can just play team basketball. So how much more, you know, pressure or expectation gets put on to Tatum and Brown and their plate? It's a very interesting thing that I think that we have to monitor as the season goes on for the Celtics. Yeah. Okay. Mo, who's your next team? Christoph, I think it's an injury look.

God damn. Anyways, next team, the Houston Rockets. That's a good one. Okay, what's your biggest question? Because they have a lot of questions. There's so many questions that we could ask, and I want to ask you guys what your questions would be also. But my main one, just in general, is that you have to, again,

identify and solidify who are the building blocks. I think you have one already in Alphran Sangoon. but you need to soon go ahead and just like start acting figuring out who will be the guys around our friends and going and just like you know consolidation of the own court yeah exactly consolidate a little bit and I guess specifically really only thing that because again the question is defining this season the one player that will define the season

it has to be you as a decide is Jaling Green your second star yep you said it I did not want to say it but that is the truth and I'm not saying it's a you know like He can't be. But all the guys you're going to talk about they have on the bench, all these other young guards, we know they drafted, read, a man, and so on. Jalen Green is the only roadblock there where he's the inflection point.

If he's your star shooting guard, that changes who you start our point guard long term. If he's not going to be a star, now you have to decide both backward spots. Like, it really, he decides which path they go down of the many they have at their disposal. It's very simple. Like, I fully agree.

I really don't have anything else to say. Because I've been extremely, extremely hesitant to jump on the Jalen Green bandwagon. And I've, like, I've said, I don't think that he's going to be the April version of himself the whole year. So I think I know the answer to the question, but you're right. That is the, that is the question for the Rockets. Yeah. I'm not really, I wouldn't say I'm pessimistic about him right now.

Like, I'm not optimistic. I don't necessarily also. I also don't think he'll be the March April version of him where he looks like Donovan Mitchell in a 6'5 frame. But I do still think there's a world. where he's their long-term starting shooting guard. But I think for them to reach the ceiling they want to reach, like Reed Shepard or Men Thompson, whichever one, has to pick a start point guard next to him.

Yeah. And maybe that ends up being the case. We find out this year that one of those guys is ready to take the leap. Maybe they both are. And we have an interesting situation where maybe they're both being better than Jaylin. We don't know. It's really like they have to go out there and give every single guy an opportunity and figure out who's going to earn.

They're really to be their lead guard of the future. Yeah, exactly. I agree. And even outside of that, I think that's like, you're right, that's the inflection point. but even outside of that too, you got to figure out what guys like Cam Whitmore, the Tari Aesons of the world,

and all the other guys that they have coming off that bench as well, like what is the general wool for them? Because Tari Isan is really fucking good. He can't be coming off the bench for the next few years of his career. And Cam Whitmore, I'm not going to say he's really good just yet, but he is super intriguing as a prospect who has clear holds in his game,

but also if given the opportunity, in general, we're playing alongside consistently great players in Afghanistan, Goon and Reed Sheppar who give him all the spacing in the world

could play, could piece, a key piece in the future. We just don't know yet. Dude, these Jay and Green highlights are ridiculous. Look at this layout.

I know. He's insane in Marching his terrible dreams. I have, I have another question, though. Is Fred Van Bleet one of the only guys to wear like baggy shorts still?

Because I'm looking at the rest of the rockets. Everybody else got, you know, the high shorts. Dylan Brooks is, wearing their underwear. Look at Jeff Green down there.

Look at Jeff Green down there with this big-ass shorts. He's 37. We know how he rocked. I'm saying like people who are like in, you know, prime age. Jared Allen wears baggy shorts.

But does that surprise you can play now, does it? He plays with, he plays with Legos. I know where he's standing. I respect the Legos. I do. I'm not,

I'm not disrespectful. I'm just saying, you do that. I know you do this too. Like it's, yeah. Coil Leonard is another guy who wears baggy shorts consistently too.

but that's on brand. It doesn't surprise anybody. But I feel like Cam Whitmore is probably going to be the odd man out there because let's say Jaylen Green is good to some capacity that he can be a starting shooting guard whether it's a superstar or not. And let's say a men or read,

one of them becomes their starting point guard of the future going to the following season after 5th Avenue kind of goes through his phase of being on this team. You have Jayling Green starting, one of those guards being in the guard next to him, probably one off the bench or maybe one starting next to him

if you want to have a man play like essentially the small forward. And then you have Tari Ising can be the other small forward there next to Jabari and Sangun who are obviously going to be there. That's your top six. You have three versatile guards, three versatile forwards, and Sangun. Cam Whitmore doesn't quite fit that as like a go-to scoring small forward unless he really runs himself out. He can be really good, but I feel like he might need to be good on another team. Like he might be the guy to have to trade for a backup five at some point.

Yeah, I 100% agree. It's kind of hard for him to, hard to envision him fitting alongside someone like Jalen Green. those two just naturally clash and he has a very specific like bruiser almost jail and brown like type play style to where like he needs to thrive with archetypes only within himself that can exist he needs to have spacing shooting and all this shit around him because he's natural just not that he's physically gifted he has he's a high fire and all that needs to be with the inverse of that in order for him to be complimented and they already have something like that and Jalen Green

or Saul Thompson although he's like hopefully that he goes as a shooter or whatever like he's naturally not that too so there's just natural conflicts with him too so I think it's

Jaylon Green and Cam Wittmore what we need to do is we need a trade Cam Wittmore to the Utah Jazz for Walker Kessler that's what we need to do for everybody involved why do you want

for some reason they don't fuck with Walker Kessler and there's been so many trade rumors forever he could be the perfect back of Five of San Goon give you another look we know they want that

Walker Kess I mean, the jazz are really good at using offball movement and getting slashes downhill and them operate in space. That's how they made a lot of marketing to a star. Cam Moore would thrive in that environment. He would eat. He would eat over there. Yeah, Will Hardy backdoor cuts with Camdenmore catching the lobs of that bounce.

That would be crazy. Now, they move mountains. That move mountains. What's your next player? Bouncing. It would move hills. Come on. It will move me, man.

My next team is the Brooklyn Nets. And I think they are a team in flux, obviously. we expect him to be one of the worst teams in the league with them finally committing to a rebuild which a year ago the question would have been when will you commit to a rebuild? Now we know the answer they finally did this past summer when they traded McHale Bridges and got their picks back.

Good for them. I feel very positive about the Nets outlook for the future. For this season though, the one question that will define the entire 82 games, you know, the reason we play the game for the Brooklyn Nets and their fans is how many 40-point games will Cam Thomas have?

Over or under 6.5? easily over he might hit that in like the first month of the year i'm not i'm not i'm not i'm not playing i hit four last year which is crazy the the question for the nets is more how high on the scoring list is cam thomas going to be like is cam thomas a guy to obviously again you're not going to win a lot of games is cam thomas a guy that can be top eight in scoring this season. Top eight. Oh, man.

That's crazy to say. But top eight, top eight. Let me, let me, yeah. Well, listen, while you guys discussed, let me look at the NBA school leaders from last year. Yeah. Because top eight is like, it might be, it might be doing it. You know the average 26 or 27.

Eight. Okay. LeBron and AD last year were tied for eight at 27.8. Okay, 27 is hard to get to because it was being really. I don't know if the Nets are going to want him. They really shoot as much as fans want just because they probably want to build some good habits and develop some fringe role players.

They probably want that. It doesn't happen when your team is trash. Yeah, and honestly, this Camp Thomas show at the end of the day. And I think the number is 6.5 of over under 40-point games. I think he'll get to like nine probably, which is crazy.

I'm hammering the over. Yeah. Good for them. You know, they have. Cam Thomas and some younger fans love him and think he's like a future star. I hope they're right because it'd be cool as hell. If they just had this vintage bucket getter that was such a bucket getter, he could become a star with it.

I don't know if I haven't stalking that necessarily. Can he be Steve Francis? Let me know. Type shit. I don't know. But they have him and they have Claxton and a bunch of guys and you get traded. We'll see. There's not much to talk about with them.

It's really just what happens to Cam Johnson, what happens to Dorian Finney Smith, Dennis Schroeder, wait and see. But in the meantime, what we're waiting and seen, we're going to watch some vintage cam thomas buckets all right i'll say this but it looks like it looks like the line in the sand is jason tatum at 14 jason tatum averaged 25 points per game last season you get 40 14 40 point games no i'm just saying in general in terms of like the scoring list oh oh because like right under it's it's tatum at 14 chris middleton at 24 point points out oh wait time about this is the playoffs okay okay number eight number eight number eight

last season dearon fox 26.6 points can cam thomas do that i think he can these are conversations we can get into i think he'll average like 24.8 maybe 25.2 something like that i was i was about to say i was like dang the 15th leading score yeah he's hoony walker's no longer on this team no more um macao bridges is gone full time so buckets have to go up they have to go somewhere ben simmons is on that team not you think he's playing or shooting the ball he's not calian hayes is all going to be on the court that equates to negative buckets being given Cam Thomas is going to be in heaven

it's going to be lovely I'm so happy he's on my fantasy team I'm going to keep him all right Don what's your next team who are we going to go to we're going to go to the Charlotte Hornets because it's a very it's a very very simple question there's one question can Lamello stay healthy

I that's the only thing outside of that it is if you want to move aside from that what does Brandon Miller's development look like this this season um but they're at a point and i actually know actually know we'll go away from all of that what does what what does uh salon look like okay ooh yeah lamella ball is like lamelo ball is like obviously the answer so let's do some aside from that aside from lamella ball's ankles and the first till do that yes but like but what what is what does jane look like because a lot of people including including us made fun of

the hornets for drafting him at six and not even necessarily because he was the pick but it was because of the process in which they they got him because they could have they could have easily traded back to get him and so but i think that that has been misconstrued with oh that was a bad pick at six and it's like your team is still very young you guys didn't win a lot of games you you're not going anywhere fast anytime soon so you do kind of have time for a project can he come out in the first year and prove people wrong and be and show and show all of you know the the raw talents that he had that made him an interesting prospect can we see flashes of like oh okay in three years he'll be good at this and in two years this is the strength with that he can build

all i think that obviously aside from lamello is a really big question for the hornets yeah okay i think uh the one i think about is can charles lee make them a competent defense because Charles Lee was the assistant of the Boston Celtics and widely known as a very defense first coach he's very big on you know what's the word slapping the floor no not necessarily he's very big on like fundamentals

as I say and like he's thought to be hired to try to reel these young guys in and get them playing the right way and then has to start and stop a defense we know that LeMellick run up the court and do his low trottership and be an incredible offensive player with Brandon Miller thriving next to him as a second young star hopefully that can be exciting offensively, they have to be a competent defense. And I ask this because if Charles Lee can make their primitive defenders be competent, I think that Brandon Miller and Mark Williams

can be a really strong defensive duo if you have the competent pieces around them. Mark Williams is, I think, probably the most underrated big in the league right now. He has the longest week span in the league. He's a great rebounder. He's a good lob catcher. And he can block shots. And I think if you put a good infrastructure around him and allow him to thrive and really develop in the pick and roll and weakside help do all the things that a young big has to develop mentally he might be a like guy that we look up like oh he's the guy that made them into being like an actual

legit elite young core that can be a contender in the future now sadly mark williams as great as he is has the same issue as a middle ball but probably even worse dude played like 43 games last season and maybe like 19 20 games the season before that he is allergic to the basketball court bro yeah and he's big on the pTO

Yeah, exactly. And he's just as pivotal in some ways when it comes to the Charlotte Horace eventually finding some type of identity in their defense because like you guys said, he is that considering how he is super fundamental in his game, super simple. I think with the right coaching, he can be like a longer Jared Allen with the right coaching. Like his ceiling is that high. Like he can be a borderline all-style level guy if everything goes right and he has a coach that really empowers him. he honestly like he should be closer to the conversations with brandon miller and obviously brandon miller's the score like he's higher ceiling but like mark williams is not super far behind in terms of importance to this team yeah exactly he just needs to god damn stay healthy yep it's that it's that whole it's that whole division where like is the he is the hornets everybody's like can you just can please survive you just stretch okay speaking about Mark Williams. Let's just keep this topic onto Biggs. My next team is the New York Knicks. Who are these Biggs? Who are these Biggs?

Toddman, please tell me what is the plan? Because right now, I think we've even talked about in the stream again. You have Jericho Sims. Nice hair. Such a good reference. you have Julius Randall Power forward Not traditionally in the center But we've seen him run that at times And then Mr. Robinson Who tends to be unhealthy a lot of the time

Who are these bigs? Yeah, the back of five is definitely the defining question Because we know They're going to have maybe the best wing defensive duo in the league With OG and Mikhail Bridges That's probably going to be that We know Jailman Brunson could lead the offense As an isolation score

Josh Hart is going to do with Josh Hart things, de Vincenzo in the same batch with Josh Hart doing their role player stuff, feeling the gaps as a shooter and defender and all that. Mr. Robinson can be your starting five with Isaiah Hart and Saigon. He can. For 12 games in a row before he misses games, because we know as great as he is, as much as we like him as a player, he's guaranteed to block hella shots and he's guaranteed to miss hella games. Damn. That's the Mr. Robinson experience and it's like the Christoph saying, can we get him healthy for a playoff run? It'll be pivotal in deciding things, but to do that, you're going to have to fill some innings on the regular season.

It's going to be some small ball Julius and OG against certain teams that don't have big brusers. But you have to think whether it be buyout market or trade deadline, they're going to acquire to the big. Like that's almost a guarantee, right? Yeah. And I think like as long as as the Knicks don't play the Sixers and Joeline Bede and him being like dirty, like Mitchell Robinson can make it through a playoff series and he can

make it through a playoff run. But I agree with you. like they're going to be in in the buyout market for sure and i'm not i'm not sure if the nix would do it especially at this time because the vibes are so so high but are you going to make another like midseason trading get one of these guys out of here are you going to there's still some flexibility with with the draft picks but like can duce in a pick get you know like i was gonna say can that can that do something to where to where you get you get a big you can still maintain the Nova guys and to have all of your talent. And honestly, with the contract that

Deuce is on and the way that he performed in the playoffs, it makes sense. Like, I don't know if there's going to be, like, there should be space for him. But you look very quickly and it gets kind of, kind of crowded. And so, yeah, but he also have a lot of injury prone guys in there. I never seen it be a good asset. Yeah. I never seen a team beg for use of dirt. It's so bad. But if you want it, you can have. I've, I've seen, I've seen people online talk about, you know, the next making a move for for vuch and trying to try to see if that happened that's listen that's something that i've seen on on the time you need to block them block the bonoffic in his expensive ass oh yeah he's less paid now but still expensive for what you get from him like

y'all can get sure you can get beef stew from the detroit pistons easily he seems like a new york next type player go get goga from the magic like there's so many other comments we were in talks to get him um in infre agency and he ended up you know retired but i i i i Yeah, I don't know. We said on... Yeah, Duke Brad would be awesome on The Magic. That'd be a good win-win. We said on the stream that, like, that is my number one thing on my NBA wish list this season,

is just to see the Knicks to get a center. Because if they do, they are now up there with one of the, with one of the most complete, like, rosters in the, in the league. And so, yeah. So, yeah, I'll see. We'll check back in around December, around Christmas time to see, like, what, you know, what's on the tea leaves but i'm i'm with you that is the big question for the next this year yeah i think we as a NBA media fan base and everybody kind of has a bad habit of overrating

depth a little bit and really like over-prioritizing what that means for a contender it matters but at end of the day like your top six is what really defines can you be a contender and all the teams like a tired of having to delete depth even though they don't have necessarily have stars don't often really do that much the nicks kind of have both but they're lacking that depth important spot so I care about front-court death of them more than I would in most other contenders just because all the guys I have there are injury prone Mitchell Robinson kind of glass julius Randall has missed some time as of late a few seasons like last year he was in the playoffs too you're right yeah not necessarily an injury prone guy but as of late you know with a guy that's

pushing 30 sometimes they're not injury prone until they are so you don't want we'll see where that goes OG very much glass he always misses small and a lot of time. So those are the most important front court players. Actually, let me rephrase that. Those are their only front court players that could defend fives in some capacity and they're all injury prone. So for them, death matters more than the wood for most contenders. Who are these bigs? So it's the question we have to answer. Okay. Speaking of death and not being exciting, let's talk about the Golden State Warriors as my next team. P.U. My question for them is, can John the Cominga be a star player?

Like, not can John DeCaminga average 20 for you, not can John the Caminga make up some of Clay Thompson's missed shots that he's no longer there to take. Can John the Cominga be a star? Because if he's not going to be a capital S star for you, your future is, or at least near future, is bleak for this coming season. I appreciate the depth they added. I appreciate the Anthony Melton edition, Kyle Anderson, Buddy Healed, all these guys that are good role players. Kevin Knox, we'll see what they can do with him. Small ball five, maybe, we'll see. They have a lot of guys that could be interesting.

But none of it fucking matters. If your second best offensive player is Brandon Pajemski. I think Paws is very good and it's going to be a good role player for a very long time. I'm not really of the opinion that he's going to be like a star shooting guard, you know? Like he's going to be a good glue guy for a long time. Like he can be Dante Evinchenzo, which is a high level player that you get as a steal with that pick in the draft. But listen, no Clay Thompson. Andrew Wiggins has been MIA for several years

We'll see what happens with that We know the personal stuff is whatever We'll see where that goes with him Dramon Green is just Dramon Green at this point Very good defensive player You don't want him to be a key part of your offense As a score That means John the Cominga has to make a leap

If he doesn't make a leap You were looking to simply put If he doesn't make a leap as a star You're wasting another season of Steph Curry Oh listen that season is wasted Damn That season is gone I know the writing on the wall

when I see it. They gave him $63 million for a year. They said, listen, understand the game. You're going to come out here. We're going to just, you know, run around, play some basketball games, and you're going to get the COVID treatment. You will have the opportunity to make as much money and take as many. Run around, play some basketball games.

And take as many shots as you would like for the rest of your career. And you don't have to move cross country. Now, are you going to win the title? Absolutely not. But you have the memories. and you have the appreciation of the fan base and at this point for a guy who's 36

the warriors are telling him that's all that should matter to because they're not going out and making aggressive moves to bring in another star and at least from my perspective I don't think Kaminga capital S star

that is very very lofty to ask of him to make that kind of jump yeah for me i don't know if i expect it yeah for me when i sit down and think about camingo like what is okay my question to you is what is a star version of camingo look like Isaac what is that okay yeah so he's been a very good slasher to the rim he's like almost 70% on the rim consistently so that's going to be there i fully believe he'll be one of the best slashing three four we'll call it combo forward in the league that has to be there to a higher volume

he has to continue to do that while the three point shot has to be more consistent we saw some months last year, I made a video on my channel talking about like, oh, my God, are the Warriors back right now? Because he was playing out of his mind, averaging over 20 because that catch and shoot three was really falling at around 40%. That's going to have to be consistent because I don't think he's going to be a great passer at any point of his career. Maybe he'll be competent there and get better. But I don't really see that being a big improvement. So he has to be a guy that can spot up from three really well. And then you respect that. So we use that slashing to attack closeouts and kind of be like a almost Lowry marketing type player where obviously Lowry,

And that's a back comparison. Larry Markin is more three-point-oriented, but his big thing that makes him a star with the jazz is that you respect a shot and he's amazing at attacking closeouts and getting downhill. Kaminka has to kind of adopt that same approach where he's an off-ball shooter that can be a release valve score. It has to look kind of like that, I think. Yeah, I mean, like with his game specifically, it's so interesting when it comes to your traditional for, because if you're not like putting shoulders into people's sets like Zion, putting them 27 as being the greatest from furniture of all time, you have to compensate in other ways you have to make up for the lack of spacing that you don't provide in other ways and he can't do that because he's not like someone like a dylan johnson who has like passing chops and stuff like that he's not like he wants to play like that though that's a problem is that he's very is so heavy right now and wants to attack off the elbows which should should and can be a part of his game but i think it has to start with the awful stuff i mentioned the library market and then you go to that on ball stuff on the elbows

In small portions, kind of like we saw what Andrew Wiggins in that finals run. He was mostly being a catch and shoot guy, mostly being a cutter. And when needed, he can get a bucket and hit his tough mid-range shots. I think that's the evolution of me from Kaminga. You know how he could have gotten there? How? Tell me. By going to Utah and getting traded for Lowry in the offseason.

But the Warriors, it could have happened. They can't get it done. Listen, Danny ain't just greedy as fuck. I don't even if I blame them anymore. That guy was just dangling it. he was Damning Lowry to see maybe if I can get Kaminga, Pajemsky, and everybody else in the fucking world. Otherwise, I'm holding on to him.

He's just a greedy guy. I don't blame the Warriors anymore once I heard more details about what Danny Angels was asking for. It is what it is. When it comes to Kamega, I don't think he has life. Throwback. I think Kaminga has life as being

somewhat of a shooter because looking at his 3rd percentage over the last few years was that 68% rookie year 65% last year and he jumped all the way up to 75% now it's only on four attempts but he has shown real life of growth

and also on top of that too he did improve as a three-point shooter considering the amount that he took last year actually like I said he should he did but then he didn't he did but then he didn't it was very inconsistent like he had times in the year where he showed that and you can believe that to be something we see more and more consistent as years go on

but it has to be consistent and I think more importantly like I mentioned the shooting off top it has to be the style of play change I think that he has to really hit those threes and make that be a focal point of how he plays I think

you know it would be so much easier too which is hard to teach if you want to be an ISO guy in the high post like sometimes it's hard to make you not want to do that that's just how they want to play it could just be great at defense as well could be a song but it could be

it also could not be and I surely expect to not be more than I do could be yeah we could just avoid all these conversations he'd be like, boom, elite defender. And then you got to worry about none else that he was on the court. But I'm willing to say that will never happen. I think he could be a very exciting offensive player.

I do not think it will ever be super impactful defensively. Yeah, I agree. That's when you have to talk about all the complexities of his game and what needs to change in very specific ways. And I think the longer we talk about it, the longer we come to realize, oh shit, it may not never happen. Yeah. All right, Don, Don, what's your next team?

We are going with the Denver Nuggets. And my question, my question for them is, can Jamal Murray take another step? Jamal Murray is 27 years old. Jamal Murray has been two years removed since his ACL injury. And this team, we all know what's been going down. They lost Bruce Brown two years ago. They lost KCP this offseason. They do not shoot threes at all.

They brought in Russell Westbrook this offseason. And they are putting a lot, a lot of hope and responsibility on these young guys to develop. Let's just say that none of that happens, right? You basically have the same rotation as last year. It's time for Jamal Murray to step up and consistently be a number two option. The version of Jamal Murray where everyone's like, you know, big game merchant, all that, I need that on a night-to-night basis because I don't think that the nuggets are going to be able to get enough three-point volume or even just three-point shooting in general from

Aaron Gordon, Russell Westbrook, you know, all these guys off the bench. I'm not sure. But I know that Jamal Murray has the, he has the potential. And he is capable of scoring a lot and being a like legit secondary score. He's averaged 21 and 20, the last two games, the last two seasons. Can we get that up to 24? Can we get that to 25? Can we make this a legitimate dynamic duo and not just pick and roll merchant one, two, you're eating off of that, but you can actually elevate the rest of the team that way, you know? I think if he can get there, then the nuggets start to creep back into, oh no, they're, they're for real. But if he's just doing, you know, 20-21, I think there's another, there's a punch offensively that they lack. And I think that I'm

looking at him, and his growth is going to define their season for me. Yeah. You mentioned the regular season stuff. I think that's true. You know, we rag on them a lot for letting KCP walk when they fully were capable of paying him and dealing with the ramifications of the second apron, which they acted like would be a lot worse than they really would be. Unexcusable to let him go for nothing at all.

But I guess the logic, right, is contending teams have to rotate these role players over time and ask their core players to step up. And for them, I imagine those core players are Jamal Murray and MPJ. They probably view MPJ in the same boat what you're talking about, where he has to carry a bigger load than the regular season. And that's important. But honestly, I think regular season will be largely fine. We know Yoko is going to get them to a top four seat probably

and just carry the burden himself. My question is, can Jamal Murray be there in the playoffs in a substantive way? Because I think at the day, last year we talked about a lot of reasons why they failed against the Timberwolves, how they had this amazing scheme. to defend Yolkish and so on. That is partly true. Honestly, partly, their last like four years

of playoff success has almost entirely been defined by what version of Jamal Murray they get. Whether he's injured or like last year, just not playing well at all against the Timberwolves, if Jamal Murray shoots the ball well

and scores like he did in 2023, they can win a championship. If he doesn't, he turns into a pumpkin and plays that composure like he did against the Timberwolves. They cannot win a championship. Him and the playoffs

is everything for them. And for some reason, and we talk about everything else besides him when he has been almost a determining factor in every single year. Last year in the playoffs, in the series against the Timberwolves, 18 points per game,

40% from the field, 33% from three. He got clamped by Anthony Edwards and J.D. McDaniels with the bigs behind him so you couldn't get to the rim. He straight up got clamped full court. The ball pressure got to him

and he was not comfortable. They didn't allow him to walk into his mid-range jumpers off the handoffs that he does with Yokic to make that difficult, made him create one-on-one and really be the better athlete in the guys in front of him. And that just wasn't his game. I don't know if he was fully healthy or not. I can't remember, but that has to be his game and he has to be able to contribute like a star. Yeah, I agree with you guys. The conversation starts with Yokic, but some reason it seems to always end with DeMont Murray what he's able to give you. Outside of that, you could

also look at guys like Christian Braun and then Peyton Watson and see if they're going to give you got a little bit of anything which naturally helps but for sure that's the obvious part russell westbrook as days go on i'm more and more intrigued with what he can go ahead and give them on a night to night basis specifically on the defensive end if he can look like what bruce brown looked like just two years ago for them the reboundings obviously there for us the defense when he's super locked in can be there if it's given to him as a specific role i I look at that and I'm like, okay, you can possibly play pivotal minutes if you're confined in a box. Your game is confined in a box.

Now, we're talking to Russell Westbrook here. That never has happened throughout the history of his career, no matter where he is or who he's playing with. We played with LeBron James. Do we think Nicole Yoke, or Coach Malone is going to go ahead and make him, you know, reduce his role? Yeah, probably not. But we'll see. Russ is very interesting for me. Okay.

What's your next team? So, let's go ahead and stay in the Western Conference. My next team is the Los Angeles Lakers. My biggest question is, for the love of God, can you guys not be average and shoot more threes? They were the most, they were like basically, I didn't realize it, but the most average team in the NBA last year, they were middle of the pack offense. I think they were like 14th or whatever in 17th. Yeah, 17th offense. And I think they were 15th or something like that defense.

Yep. cool team but not cool when you have two of the top 10 players in the entire NBA on your side nothing much has really changed from roster wise and all this is dependent on is of course like internal growth from the Austin Reeves I don't know if you want to say Deals of the world because he's pushing 30 Max Christi yeah the Mask Christi's and uh what's that white dude dude again Isaac say his name Dalton connect who Dalton connect that dude yeah Dalton Our Lord and Savior? Exactly.

How, I'm interested to see how much different this offense looks under JJ Redick's eyes. Yeah, honestly, the biggest question is what is J.J. Redick going to do with this team, I guess. And for you, the biggest important part you mentioned is a three point volume. That's huge. That is obviously really important. What bothers me the most when I look at the Lakers numbers from last year, they were 27th in transition defense. And 29th in offensive rebounds. So they didn't crash the boards and get second chance points

But they also didn't use that lack of second chance points To get back and prevent teams from coming transition They sucked at both and that to me is almost That decision right there Doing where they're going to crash the board to get back That's to me the clearest sign of coaching You can coach both those things You don't need tremendous athletes to crash the boards

Or tremendous athletes to focus on transition defense You need discipline and you need game plan And you need a coach holding people accountable and forcing a certain style of play that prioritizes one. Every good team ever is good at one of those things. Maybe both, but it's one that necessitates the other. You've got to pick one and let that be your thing you thrive on. To be bad at both is unexcusable.

It's terrible. It shows you're a terrible coach team. It shows you're not trying very hard and key important details that are just like the baseline for being competent. That's the type of subdigital rec has to come in and fix. Three point volume, getting back in transition, making the extra pass focusing on all this key fundamental stuff

that allows them to have a good enough team to let LeBron and AD carry that hasn't been the case in the past few years when it needs to be. I love that. I love that. I've seen him this work is killing you.

They're so mid. They're very mid. Yeah, again, we'll see what JJ Red can do with this team. They can go a lot of ways, right? He's talked about making AD more of an offensive hub that should be interesting. He's talking about Rui Hachamora

having to really be an important defensive piece. for them that doesn't excite me but it needs to be the case so they're going to be good he has to be a good defender I don't know if he can but basically our season and our hope is tied up in a guy who's never coached before and we got to really hope and pray that him being really smart and really knowing ball translates immediately yeah yeah he's saying all this stuff you would say at media days like he's right though but like but like remember like darman came out was like eight he's going to shoot six threes a game yeah but see that was dumb the moment that was fucking dumb

That's the difference is that Darvinham said things and they weren't that smart and they weren't that sensical and so much of what was wrong with the Lakers is they just needed

to do low-hanging fruit and be competent and make baseline decisions. Darwin Ham refused to commit to a lineup last year. They tried so many starting lineups to get to the one that was so fucking obviously

the answer because that's what led them to a conference finals year before. He started games where he started Cam Reddish, Torium Prince, Jared Vanderbilt,

Ruehachamora, LeBron James. and AD five fucking wings well AD so four wings plus AD no guards at all that was something that Darwin Ham thought would be smart and that he tried instead of doing the low-hanging fruit and starting your best players two of which are your guards that you pay and one of which is really Hachimora there's just so much easy stuff that he refused to do because he was hard-headed as fuck that made him lose the locker room all JJ Reddick has to do is to be smart and modern and reasonable yeah last year was horrible

God. And it's so annoying because Darwin Ham the previous year did some smart stuff going to the conference finals. He had goodwill with me. I was defending him. And he proceeded to do

the worst, most incomprehensible stuff for 82 games straight before a first-round exit came. It was ridiculous. And yeah, can JJ Wreck not do that is the defining part of the season?

I got good news for you, Isaac. I'm sure you saw that he was on Zach Lowe's RIPT or ESPN Fier, by the way, one of the goats. He was on Zach Lowe's podcast and Zach Lowe asked him,

I'm like, what's the starting lineup for the Lakers going to be looking like? And he was like, oh, the same one that went like 23 and 10 last year or something like that. Yep. With Dilo, Austin, Rees, Rui, LeBron, and AD. Good first step. That's what it has to be.

Yeah. Jerry Vendable is talking to be available. It has to be that. So already a good sign. He's committed that right away. There's no, like, I hate when coaches are like, when it's super obvious like that. And they're like, we'll see.

It's a competition in camp. Like, let the identity be the identity. Like, I understand. This isn't football. This isn't football. or any given Sunday the toughest man has to be out there like I get that in certain aspects

but for a basketball team that needs continuity because they don't have an injection of talent over the off season you gotta make that identity clear from the jump and it seems like JJ Redick

is going to do that cool who's your next team with my turn yeah okay my next team is going to be the Sacramento Kings

and the question for them is who is going to be your starting shooting guard because they have options which is a good thing but it's to me a little bit difficult little of a choice because obviously demartorosen is going to be their new starting small forward that's they paid him he's coming in he's going to be the guy that

can maybe make them an exciting team this year uh he's an interesting player to build around right he's a very specific skill set that when you combine his lack of spacing with sabonis's lack of spacing and d'airn fox's need for the ball in his hands not to say he can't play without it but he's your best player you want the ball in his hands a lot that makes it tricky because now your other two guys have to be elite shooters and kiki murray is that and he brings you good size and brings you really good defense there so you're happy with that but at the two you need an elite shooter and you need a good defender because de marta rosen is not necessarily a defender anymore and obviously sabonis isn't giving you a backline help to make up for having two

smaller guards there so malik monk is the best shooter but far from a good defender so that bit gets hard to necessarily start your best offensive player keon ellis is a very good defender not the biggest guy in the world but he can give you some on-ball defense idea and fox necessarily doesn't not their best shooter and Kevin Herder could be a great shooter could also not be last year he was very much not a great shooter and an iffy defender so you know it's they have a mix of skill sets that could all work but also could all not work and it's going to be kind of hard to narrow down what the answer is I have an answer for you take the three of those dudes put them inside of meat blender and then get a new human body like six five six six inject their juices into this one

and boom you got the perfect two guard alongside bierkeleger just comes out exactly answer solved yeah man it's tough because we

yeah that's strange I don't think we're not the highest on the the Dermardo Rosen move but we're also not like super against it you know we don't think it's going to be like awful

but it's definitely like prove it to us that it can be the monumental needle mover that they needed to be and it's just a difficult fit to make with their other players and their team yeah

and that's just what DeMarter Rosen is in general like he's always been hard to excuse me damn the yawns and his combination was crazy yeah no I'm sure that's never happened in history row

like I think I'm the front I'm seeing stars and shit right now too oh my god but yeah like that's just what de Mardi Rosen is as a player like he has a specific skill set play style that is so hard to plan and prep against unless you have like nothing but elite shooters and the kings have been cursed and also blessed with one of the better centers in the NBA who just so happens to not be a shooter whatsoever

so he's key low key he's the demartor rosen of centers damn he's a very good talented player that can take you very far in regular season hard to win with at the highest level hard to fit with and doesn't provide a essential skill so that you need for the position for DeMars three-point shot for Sabonis its rim defense like you're putting together a lot of B pluses that have limiting factors from making them A's

and trying to make it work How are they going to replace Harrison Barnes is what you're telling me right now. Yeah, I don't know. I can see it. But yeah, I think if I were the Kings, I'd probably, let's just start off with some defense, right?

Like if we, if we. Yeah. Yeah, because if you know that you're going to start tomorrow, let's not go into the season with just a complete aberration of defense. If you think that you're trying to progress forward. Now, if you want to use the formula that you used two years ago, hey, defense, what defense, right? We're just going to run. We're just going to play fast and have our offense carriers. Then if that's the case, all right, you paid Malik Monk, start him.

But if we're actually talking about taking steps towards being a competent basketball team, a team that you can legitimately look at and say, oh, yeah, you guys could compete in the playoffs. You guys can maybe win a round or something like that. You're going to need defense. And your best lineup is going to have to defend. And Keon is probably the answer for that. Yeah. Yeah, I agree.

Start with Keon. And if it fails, your offense isn't good enough, you go in Blake Monk and see if you can just outscore people. yeah that's the best way okay what's your next recipe uh yeah well who's it on it's on me it's on you don't it's on you okay cool let's go with the cleveland we are we are an hour in and we're like 11 teams in

so we gotta speed this up I go always god damn we're yapping we're yapping we're yapping hard but it's okay it's the first preview at the set of the season we need it this is what we do all right let's go with the Cleveland Cavaliers yo can Evan Moby finally add a three point shot to his game

yeah that's a deciding factor Like, can we see that? Because if you just have these two bigs who don't shoot, it's really, really not going to work. But obviously, if Moby can space the floor a little bit and you can still have Jared Allen out there, okay, now we can do something. Now we might be able to have lineups in the postseason where it makes sense to have both Evin Mowgli and Jared Allen and then still have their defense out on the floor. Everything that they do in terms of keeping this core four together depends on whether or not Evan Moby can. take a legitimate step as a shooter. Simple and plain.

That is all that matters for the Cavs this year. Garland's coming back, going to be better. Demich, top 15 guard in the league. Jared Allen, great, great center, very underrated. His offensive game has blossomed as well. Evan Mobley, your defense is still nice. I need the jumper, and that's it. Yeah, real quick randomly.

I have, as you guys know, I have highlights pulled up all the time when we're playing while we're talking, I typed in Kings on House of Highlights to the last highlights you guys just finished watching. And I'm looking now at the search bar after I turned it off. Five years ago, this is a YouTube title. Namansa B. Elisa, full highlight

Kings versus Wizards, 2018, October 26, 26 points, three assists, to all rebounds. The Kings used to have Bialisa highlights going up on YouTube. Hey! What a crazy era. Don't, okay.

Baye Lisa was special. He had 26 and 12 on October, 26th, 2018. Don't do this thing. We're out of the off season. We're out of the off season. We don't have to play Bealisa highlights and be like, bro. Prime Bialita was a problem.

We're here with like real basketball. We're real quick. We're going to talk about the calves and you guys are going to watch Bialisa highlights because this is just how we fucking do it. You too can talk about the calves and I'm watching Bayeica highlights. What are you talking about? There you go. But yes, that's my only question.

I think that that is legitimately the one thing that's going to define their season is whether or not is whether or not Mowgli can shoot. For sure. Because, like, we expected Darius Garland bounce back. I think that's, like, a guarantee. Listen, he broke his jaw last year. Is that Tomas, not a Ranski that I see on the court right now? Good God, okay.

I'm locked back into this conversation. We know Darius Garland's ever bounce back. I think we can expect him and Donovan Mitchell to be good again together. And listen, Kenny Ackison is coming in, who's a good offensive coach that has a history of making good offenses work with young teams. He's not a miracle worker. No, no one of genius exes knows is going to make you have a great offense with two non-shooting bigs. Like, it's really tough. and they're great defensive big

so you can find value there but at the end of the day it's very hard to do that in the modern NBA unless you're starting Anthony Davis as I power forward that's the only time you've seen them win a championship with two non-shooting bigs in recent years even Yannis had a shooting big next to him

as a dominant non-shooting big so is Evan Moby gonna one become Anthony Davis and be the best rim score slash rim protection combination in the league outside of Yannis or seeing develop a jump shot or are we going to separate them like you can

intellectualize a lot of things, but for some teams, it's simple. These two bigs don't fit. Are they going to make themselves fit or are we going to move on? It's time to move on. And when they're ready to move on, I'm ready to talk about them again. Other than that, I'm ready to go on to the next team. All right, Mo, what is your next team? Okay.

I'm going to keep the B-Lisa highlights running for the next until it's over. So just know that whatever team are watching, B-Lesa is here. Just know the people who are watching, this has made your day better. This has made you more of a skilled basketball player. Anyway, take notes. look at that pass oh baileza was

no no athleticism just fucking effort it's oh it's over oh another one oh play now there's another one is another one is a next video

baileza man he's one of my favorite random role players of all time for no reason shadow him okay so my next team the phoenix sons

we can keep this like relatively short if we want but super complex team because they have I'm weird guys who do similar things are Bradley Beal Devin

Booker and KD and they have pretty much no depth behind that. But the probably best late signing in the entire NBA that no one seems to care about is that they picked up Tyos Jones. And he's one of the most stable and consistent point guards that the NBA has to offer. He's not a star by any means,

but also he's not a bum by any means. Also, he's like one of the best 20, he's one of the best low-end stars that you can have in the entire NBA who just knows how to set in offense. keep the pace going won't make too many mistakes that's what his biggest selling point is but also on that end too he's not like the greatest defender due to his sides of the stature will they start him if they start him that means that they're still going to be running this basically three wing guard lineup in bradley beo kd and devon booker yeah yeah it's interesting

the problem is so i would say they don't need to start him but they have of him and Monty Morris now. And you're not playing these guys together on bench units. And if they're both going to be backup point guards, that's like 12 minutes a game for both of them. It's not very much. So you probably want at least Tias to be playing more than that. So you combine that with the fit issues

we know what you know with Bradley Biel. I think they'll probably start the season with their same starting lineup as last year. But I won't be shocked if by the end of the year they decide to, I mean, I don't know. Do they make Bradley Bills six, man? I wasn't to say I won't be surprised,

but I think I might be because that's a stuff to swallow. Mike Booden has some decisions. He has decisions to make. It's not happening. Are they going to bench Grayson Allen and have less shooting? I don't know. It's probably going to come down to that.

The guy is making $50 million a year. He has no trade clause. He's like, he's going to be on the team. And you have, and Isbiyah did not trade the rest of the flexibility for Bradley Biel to be on the bench. Like, I think that that would be, if Bud was like, hey, we probably would be a better team if Bradley came off the bench, HB is going to come down to practice and be like, no, he's starting. I 100% can see him making an executive decision there. Yeah, maybe.

Yeah, another interesting team, they almost have, like, very few question marks because I think they kind of are here they are. The biggest question mark, I guess, is can Mike Boonhozer make them an even better defense? They were surprisingly decent last year. They floated around 10th through 12th in defense all year. Can Mike Boonehosa make that even higher? And somehow just get the most out of them as an elite defensive coach and make them surprise the world and be a strong defensive team with the bucket getters

to hold their own offense? Probably not, but maybe. We'll see. I don't know. That's the beauty of media day time. Anything is possible. Yeah. I think you.

I don't have many suns thoughts, honestly. If you have generational talent on the offensive end, you have to have one of the better offenses the entire NBA and for them to just be meh and see them get completely exploited by the Minnesota terminals who of course are one of the better defenses than the NBA still embarrassing you need that end to have the most emphasis and I'm not thinking necessarily twice about their defense because it seems like to me that they maximize themselves on that end with such a weak name or new weak names on the defense of them so yeah my next team is Utah Jazz and my

question for them is, that would define the season is, are they low-key getting ready to trade for a star? I think it's under-talked about. I think they're priming themselves to trade for a star. And the question is, are they going to be able to do that at this deadline or into the next off-season? Like, is a star going to become available for them? Because people keep talking about them. Like, what are they doing? Every year, they start up competitive and Larry Marketing is going nuts. Will Hardy looks like a coach of the year. They're finding wins at a thin air. And the second half the season comes around and they're like, well, that was fun. Let's get the 10th pick in the draft. Let's trade everybody.

and suck on purpose. And they do it so late that they can only suck so much that they get to the 10th pick in the draft every year, which is not a great way to do a rebuild. It doesn't give you the high end talent

you need. And then we thought maybe they're going to trade a lot of marketing and really commit. They said, ha ha, just kidding, we're extending him. He's going to be our star for the next four or five years.

So I think that they are stacking up assets and drafting around this point on purpose because they want to draft a bunch of good role players and eventually trade for a star because people don't talk about enough that they have an ungodly amount of draft picks at their disposal

and a ridiculously deep young court that it only makes sense that they're keeping line marking in to be a second star with the main guy when they can get them. Do you guys know how many draft picks I have in the next few drafts? What's next few? Next few, like three, four? Yeah, whatever numbers. Do you have any idea

how many draft picks I have? I'm going to say 16. 14. In the next seven drafts, so you can trade drafts out until 2031. That's the amount you have your disposal all the time, the stipend rule? 17, 17. No, relax. Relax. Relax. You guys are going crazy. They have 15 first-round picks until 2031 in next seven

drafts. But, but that's because we extend to 2031. In the next three drafts, they have eight, including four in 2027 alone. They have a ridiculous, eight draft picks in the next three drafts. That's too many. You cannot add that many young prospects to this team. So I think they're drafting Cody Williams, Taylor Hendricks, Keanuthage, all these guys. To be good complimentary role players. And one of these guys is going to pop and become interesting. Many of them won't. But they have seven young core members right now plus Collins, plus Sexton, plus Lowry, plus Clarkson. Seven young core members is too many. They're going to trade for a star as soon as it becomes available and give up like six first round picks to those young core members. Then we're

going to look up and we're going to realize they have Star 1, Larry Markanin, a couple of veterans, and five more young players still. I'm glad I'm glad you said this. And another, another other way that you know that they were beefing up to go Trey 4 Star, listen, they rebranded the jerseys. They said, listen, we are about to go into a new era of jazz basketball and getting the draft picks, like, it's only a matter of time before, like, you get Danny Ains in the building. Obviously, Dr. Wade is in the building now as like, you know, ownership group, whatever. There's a lot of movement up top.

in the jazz front office. And so you have all of that. You go out and you get Lowry. I'm with you. I think pretty soon, like a star is going to be available. And you know that, like, for Utah, nobody's ever going to pick to go to the Utah Jazz. They have to make that happen.

And Danny Aange, Danny Age is going to look like a finesse or two, whoever, because he's going to be like, oh, look at all these picks and just dangle them out in front of any, you know, sorry GM and then go get the star. So I, yeah, I think the question to your answer is, yes, they are, like, beef it up to go get another star. Yeah, I agree.

That seems like the most obvious thing to do for them at this point in time. They have the Jordan Clarks's of the world and the Colin Sexton of the world and those guys are great players, nice players. But they're also players who consistently and routinely get shopped around because of the just very complimentary roles and skills that they have. And for the Utah Jazz at this point in time, they have nothing to compliment because they have no star outside of Larry marking him. He's not like a 1A type of guy. Once the Phoenix Suns flame out, just get ready for the bidding war for Devin Booker between the Utah Jazz and the Houston Rockets.

Ooh, Devin Booker and Utah is nasty. Either going to be Devin Booker or someone like Try Young if the Hawks just completely flame out. It's either one of those same. All right, Don, what's your next team? We're going to go to the Dallas Mavericks. And there's been a lot of talk about their defense this offseason because Derek Jones Jr. has left. Clay Thompson is in the building now. And obviously, like, we all expect for Clay Thompson to play a pivotal role in this team.

My question for them is, is the defense still going to be the same? Because we've seen that, like, whenever the Mavericks have made deep runs over the last couple years, whenever they made the Western Conference finals in 21 and then the finals last year, they were able to make a switch kind of like in the middle of the season where their defense goes to another level and so they finished last year you know honestly like kind of around

middle of the pack they were like 13th in in defensive rating but really wow it wasn't maybe because listen early I messed up and I looked at at playoffs but and so maybe maybe I messed up the stuff but even like when they were rolling like when you talk about them like around the all-star break and like in February and March

they are a team that was high, high up in defense. And that was something that you started to see, oh, they could actually really do something. I'm very, very curious to see. Now that Clay Thompson is there, who at this point in his career, not an amazing defender. We know Luca is not a defender. We know Kyrie on a night-to-night basis, especially in the regular season. Again, not a defender. You're putting a lot of pressure on PJ Washington and Derek lively.

to man that defense, is it going to be the same? And if it is, if it is going to be the same to hold up, shout out to Jason Kidd, shout out to the Mavs, because then they will 100%

like be in contention for like a top three seats, top two seed in the West. I think they're going to have some growing pains. And so that's why I'm asking the question about the defense because that's good question.

That will let me know whether they are primed to make a run back to the finals or if they are the same, you know, the Mavericks that we've seen for a couple of seasons now. Yeah.

That's a good analysis. They're so interesting because there's a lot of great teams out West now, but the Grizzies come back into the fold, the Thunder Only getting better, the Timberwell's having another year of Anthony Edwards development. It's going to be stacked in the top five, so they could be anywhere from one to five, honestly. And to say they could be the fifth best team

isn't really a slight to them. I know Dallas Mavericks fans have like a chip on their shoulder insecurity issue where they feel like everybody's always downing them. They have just the most thin skin ever. I just calling y'all a bitch. The biggest, the cry movies in the world. But they could realistically be five, and they could be one. And what's interesting is, you know, the second half of the year,

you mentioned after they made those deals, they were incredible. They were, like, on pace to be the one seed. So I think they have a chance to do that again and have it translate. Do you feel like Clay Thompson is going to make them better? Because they do. Mazz fans will tell you that all they needed was a one more elite shooter, and you add him into the mix, and he's not going to take away from what they did defensively,

that makes them. even higher level, if you believe that to be the case, they can realistically be the one seat because they were on a ridiculous pace after that trade. They can be better offensively. Like I think that from like a start to finish product in the regular season, yes, Clay Thompson can make you a better team. I think that for them though, especially when you get into playoff settings, everybody knows. You want to make it far.

You need to be able to defend. And are they going to be able to go an entire year. not really playing elite, elite defense and then flip the switch in the, in the playoffs. Or are they going to go the first half of the season? Again, the defense not to where it was towards the end of last season. And now you're starting to think, okay, do we have to make a trade? Do we have to go bring somebody in here to assure up the defense? And now who are we moving around, what assets get moved?

Or can we just say from day one, this is our team, this is our lineup, this is who we're rolling out. and then we go into the playoffs and have some continuity and not have, you know, version one of the team, version two of the team. I don't think there will be in a situation where they've got many trades at all.

I think their team is pretty great. But I think the question will be if they come on to the start of the year and they have the 22nd rank defense and they're just like around 500 not looking quite as good as you'd expect coming off a final trip. The question will be,

do we have to bench Clay Thompson as our starting small forward and start, what's the name Blankin from the Pelicans? Nodgy Marshall. That could be the reality. that's very tough because I'm sure Clay Thompson went there with a starting spot promised to him and that's probably a big part of why he chose the Mavericks over to

Lakers and over returning to the Warriors he probably thought he could be an integral part in winning a championship for this team that's on the cusp and what does that do politics might get in the way politics might get in the way you telling me that he wouldn't be still an integral part coming off the bench no he would he would but does that it's hard to accept yeah it might be hard and again this is a good problem to have because again calm down Mavericks fans I'm not doubting you You will be a very good team, but your starting small four situation is sticky, and this could mean nothing. Maybe Clay Thompson is rekindled in this great, smaller role for him, and he's shooting the shit out of the ball and is defending well enough that everything else can do fine, PJ and Live, they can handle the defense.

Maybe it will be for nothing. But maybe starting Kyrie, Clay, and Luca together, makes it kind of hard to have enough perimeter defense to let your big do their thing. Exactly. One of the biggest things for their defense last season, totality-wise, is just like a lot of people just had a lot of least. leeway opposing teams had a lot of lee getting into the paint it was free for all and that when you look at that it's like okay like derrick lively he is obviously one of the better defenders at his position and dam gopher is dammed gafford just big and long or whatever yeah i'm looking at the guards i'm looking at how many blowbys that guys get off of lucca and kairi although kairis has like

massively improved in his defense but at the end of the day so like there's only so much that something like him can do derrick jones junior can only recover so much and he's not there anymore. You have Clay Thompson there who's slow old age. I don't know. I like to believe in the latter half and look past by these minuscule technical issues because I think their offense just might be that good.

Yeah, yeah, I agree. I'm not down on them, but it definitely is a question. It'll be on Jason Kidd to figure it out because we know that you inject Clay Thompson as a 45% corner three-point shooter. That alone makes them very scary offensively. when you had just for years you had just dudes that luka just turned into 38% three-point shooters because they're so wide open and they managed to be good with luka carrying the load and making them good shooters yeah one of the best shooters of all time there and that can give you a scary component to your offense question is will the defense match facts i agree i agree What's your next thing?

I think I got next and the next scene that we can talk about are the San Antonio Spurs. You can go a lot of different ways with this. But I think the most important question is just how much of a great player can Wembe be. I don't think it matters how good. Stephan Castle will be during his rookie year. It doesn't matter to me how many leaps Devon Fasel can take or whatever. If Wemby can be pushing like top 15, top 10-ish player by his second season, then this team might be a lock to win like 40 games and be a threat to be in the play.

If Wembe is like that, it starts and stops with him. Interesting, yeah. I feel good about that being the case. I feel good about him being a guy that can carry him in 40 wins. I think we might be entering a Dallas Maverick situation where by year two, the guy's a superstar and it's hard to tank, continue to build your roster. So I actually do think what Castle can show us in his rookie year

is the most important thing to me because listen, the Mavs had very few swings plus Luca. They had one draft to get him a second star and they drafted Dennis Smith Jr. That didn't go too well and they had to go to the trade market to pair him with KP and then eventually retool and pair him with Kyrie. You know, it was

you couldn't do the natural progression you'd like to see you from a young core. Castle's that player for them. Obviously Luke didn't have a Vassel already there, didn't have a Sohan already there, so there's a little bit more to work with. But Castle can be the swing factor that maybe you don't enter a map situation where you've got to go all in and trade all your assets. Maybe he can be a guy.

He can be legitimately be there, Drew Holiday, or whatever he can amount to. But even I'm just thinking about like a day one aspect type of things. Like even if Castle doesn't get too much PT playing time. Like you still have Tyos Jones there just from like a day one aspect of things. Like yeah, Trey just from a day one aspect of things

like Chris Paul, Harrison Barnes, Devon Vassel. The pros are there who you can genuinely rely on. nothing else matter than matters other than Wembe's development into legendary status. Yeah. Can he do that year too as a question? Yeah.

Honestly think that for them, like the more interesting question, low key, is Greg Popovic going to not really be watched? We haven't really talked about it the last couple years because the spurs have been so bad and just devoid of talent that we'd just be like, oh yeah, like, you know, they're in a rebeau. We don't really care. to have wimby walk into your franchise last year and be like yeah we're going to start Jeremy saw him at point guard for the first you know X amount of games that's that's crazy right

and then to say hey we're I know that he is like seven five and that he's a center prospect we're going to play him at four and we're going to play him out of position like they did a lot of things that were very very late and now that you have a guy that we all think can progress forward and you do have some veterans on that team, is Greg Popovich going to step back up to the plate and then we're going to look at the Spurs and be like, oh, they're actually doing some really smart stuff this year

because the last couple of years, even with bad teams like the Utah Jazz, we've still seen coaches be like, oh, they're still doing really smart stuff. They don't have a lot of good players, but the way that they're moving and the way that they're connecting, that's interesting to me.

Like, that's kind of cool. It hasn't been the case in. San Antonio. So for me, that's one of the things that I'm watching with the spurs. I'm watching pop. That's fair. Yeah. I don't know. We'll see. They're an interesting team that can go a lot of ways just purely depending on Wembe. So yeah, you're right to point him out as the inflection point where the rules for a rebuilding team can go out the window very fast when you stumble into one of the best players in of Zara probably. Exactly. If Wembe wasn't so good or just be like, okay, like, how good against the Fawn Castle be in is Jeremy saw him like a good

fit alongside Wemby? But not, none of that shit matters, bro. Wimby's that dude. We each have like five left, right? I have four left. Oh, okay. And I'm going to do two at once because my question for the Chicago Bulls and for the New Orleans Pelicans is simple.

What the fuck are you doing? Very simple. For the Bulls, it's more specifically. How do you distribute these minutes and all these guards? Do we? How do you distribute the minutes of all these guards? They have Josh Giddy, White, Iyo, Levine, Lonzo, Guarthe, Javon Carter, and Taelin Horton Tucker on the roster. We'll see if Lonzo plays.

We'll see if Lonzo plays. We'll see if Lanzo plays. We'll see if Lovine plays. We'll see a T.H.D. plays. Like, their job is done, right? Like, half of that list is just not going to get PT. We'll see. but hopefully

hopefully no those two guys are alive playing yeah they have eight guards on the roster and obviously they're not beholden

to giving Jvon Carter THT and DeWarte big minutes but they're on the team for a reason and even if you focus on the top end

who do you start Josh Giddy White and Levine Levine is a three yeah yeah yeah I don't like that

I go out the bench and Wanzo's back and playing decent basketball what you do with him like it's a log jam at guard that Josh Giddy's

presence necessitates the ball to meet his hands which necessitates Josh Giddy to be prioritized and I don't want to take the ball out of White's hands I want Levine to get some trade value back and be able to cook a little bit like it's just a weird log jam that just doesn't make sense at all and they probably

the weird thing is they want to win games so they're going to need it to make sense because they're going to try to compete and I don't know what they're going to do it's weird let's put decision makers in their front office back in school these guys are terrible

they're so stupid yeah let's genuinely put these guys in tutoring sessions math science and this language comprehension like all of it bro they need that Kuman yeah Kumon

for sure their GM is not saying their GM is not and they gave them Caruso for Gittie so they have like no pics they have an obligation they have an obligation to prove

their investment right and make him Work. So they're gonna be playing through Josh Giddy a good amount because if they if he sucks they look stupid as fuck Which would not be new for that administration It won't be a new feeling for them, but I think they want to avoid it so I think they're gonna go all in on Giddy being a guy and that's fucking gross with the other people on the roster who are better God Modus Bezales we save us modest Buzzias please save us modern and Buzellis modest Buzellus

He needs to play the three. Oh, there's so many logjam perimeter guys Okay, well Don't even say any work, fuck them Let's go, let's go The other part of this, the Pelicans, what the fuck are they doing? Because we talked about it on the last stream where we did our NBA wish list of things you want to happen

And the number one thing on my list was Please make a goddamn trade Pelicans Because last year, the talking point Coming out of the season was Trey Murphy is awesome Trey Murphy is awesome with Zion Put the two together, they both need to start That means you have to offload

Some Perimeter players And let him have more minutes And what do they do this summer? they added a perimeter player the must play 36 minutes in Desjante Murray so there's even less to go around in the starting lineup for Trey Murphy

their team doesn't make sense anymore it barely made sense last year now it makes less they have one less center their only centers are Daniel Tice and Misi a rookie we'll see if he can surprise us and be a Derek lively type

and start for them I wouldn't bank on it I can't remember last time Daniel Tice's name was important to me in an NBA setting Desjante Murray is a good player That's the kind of way to call so many relevant. We'll see if he's a good player next to Brandon Ingram and Zion Williamson.

That's not the dream trio I have in my mind. We'll see what their spacing is like if they have to bench C.J. McCollum to make that work. So C.J. and Trey Murphy are their best shooters. Neither of which may be starting because you can't bench Herb Jones. Dejante, Herb, Ingram, Zion, Misi is disgusting spacing. So maybe they've got to start Zion at center?

There's so many moving parts that don't fit super well together. Please, are they going to make a trade? Do something logical for me. I'm begging now 100% I listen we've talked so much about the pelicans like I personally I have no

I have no more words to say about them I do we can move on both these teams what the fuck are you doing like I try not to make these opening season and questions just be like blow it up blow it up make a move trade season but for them I have to like what are you doing like the team doesn't make sense as currently constructed

exactly Adrian Griffin enrol in after school programs with your grandchildren or kids Adrian Griffin you mean my bad I said David Griffin you too everybody get out of school programs

everybody get hooked on phonics oh man I got what you're next to you don't know I got next I'm gonna go too because both of these questions revolve around the team star point guards so we're going to go with the Indiana Pacers and we're going to go with the Los Angeles Clippers

and the question is what version of your star guard are you going to get for the for the pacer's it is very clear you have the version you have in-season tournament tyrese halliburne where he was averaging 26 and 12 scoring right leading leading them to wins the offense was amazing super dynamic he looked like one of the four best point guards in the league are you going to get that he had a hamstring injury right you brought pascal in last season he wasn't he wasn't the same we saw flashes of it in the playoffs in certain games but the shooting just never came back and the bag work while we joke around about the bag the bag was not there right like his his creativity in terms of scoring wasn't there so are we going to get

some more creativity uh with him as a as a score going downhill in the intermediate range or at the very least is the three point shot going to be consistent he's been a good shooter for a majority of his career the stress that he had is that a weird turn that he's going to have for his career or is that just, hey, I was playing hurt through a hamstring injury because I was trying to meet the 65 game rule. And now, I've been healthy. I didn't play in the Olympics at all. So I really haven't played any basketball since, like, May.

I'm good to go because if he is that version, then that is a very, very good Indiana team. And they have a future and something to look forward to this season. And it's also the same thing with the Clippers. You know, right, one, Paul George, out the door. you know Kauai Lenders is going to miss games, right? He has already had a procedure done. Can James Harden be the version of James Harden that can carry an offense, that can carry them to wins? I don't know.

And if he is, then the Clippers can be a competent team in the playoffs. If he's not, they will miss the playoffs. And it is as simple as that. Yeah, I have a lot of faith in Tyrese Allerden for the first part. I think it will be fine. I have very little faith in Clippers. I do have faith in James Hardin being able to be a little bit better than last year

but with Kwai Leonard also already dealing with an injury coming into the season I okay top of this I have a lot of faith in Hardin plus Kawhi being solid I have no fucking faith in Hardin plus a bunch of dudes being solid I think he's past the point

of being able to carry nobody's like he did in the Rockets but I think with Kawhi they could be pretty solid and Harding can do enough on ball scoring with his playmaking so they can be still in the playing race still solid

but if Kawhi misses games my God is going to look ugly for James Hardin. Oh, it's already looking at it. I guess it's going to look ugly because Kauai's going to miss games. Like, it's...

Oh, boy. It's what he does. But yeah, so that's the two where those point guards, okay. You are really, really going to define those team seasons. Yeah.

You good? When it comes to the Indiana, Pacea, damn, it's you okay. Oh, my God. You made me laugh while I was drinking, so I, like,

inhaled a little bit of water. Yawning. Yawning, choking, sneezing. We're everywhere. today. Big God. Listen, that's what it's like

when we sit with you after three hours and yeah, potentially some weird shit's going to happen. It is what it is, man. It is what it is.

Okay, I think I have one or two more teams left. Yep, two more teams left. That's crazy. I have three teams left. Yeah,

okay, so one team, the Washington Wizards, no questions. Alex R. Your 611, 7 foot, act like it. Cool.

Next. The Orlando Magic, can they have an average NBA offense, a bare minimum? them because they haven't been in like 10 plus years for some for some reason they're just allergic to being 15 16 ranked offensive consistently bad on that end but obviously they always hang there on the defensively can they be consistent on the offensive one can follow bank hero you

know take another leap and be the franchise player that we all hope that what do you think is necessary for them to have a let's say good offense to be 10th an offense what needs to happen for the rock for the magic um attempt in offense or at least closer to two-tenth in offense team looks like Jalen says continuing to continue to take his leap. KCP being KCP, but Franz Wagner stepping up as well and following the trajectory as Powell and Carroll, not the trajectory being a franchise guy because I don't think Franz is that, but being a great sidekick, being a great Robin to Paul Ben Carroll's Batman and being a true compliment and spacing and leaving all the tension and stress that Paul

faces on a night night base because he wasn't that last year because of the lack of a three-point shot. And he's just making Paolo's life harder. And if you can't do that, then they're going to be 20th and offense again, 22nd in offense again. So really relies on Franz as well. They gave a fuck a load of money too. I agree. I agree. Yeah. The shooting, he was obviously like a better shooter for the first two years of his career and then just had a very, very weird year. So sometimes that happens. Sometimes people forget how to shoot for about nine months, but it comes back hopefully for the magic and for you know listen they just gave this guy over two hundred million dollars yeah they need his three-point shot to come back immediately so yeah yeah i

i wonder i mean they had the easy thing point out is they need shooting they need powell's life to be easier him to have the spacing to develop into the rim score he needs to be and they address that in some part right we have kCP sugs me the leap like you said comes out of fronds so they have one through three elite shooting other part i'm thinking about though is do they have enough ball handling because they seem to have just fully committed to palo essentially being their point guard and i hate that i don't think that's necessarily the path he should go down but that's where they wanted to go which is fine but you still need more release valves as ball handlers and playmakers franz is a good ball handler as well can create

room pressure consistently can jalen suggs develop more into that and to be more of like a i don't know like what dilo is to lebron where he can create with the ball his hands a little bit can they get something from the center position in that aspect we know that's not john isaac's game window carter has had a weird year he's just window carter like even if the three-point shooting gets competent they'll be a better team but i just don't really think they have the offensive juice needed even with kCP like i that's why i wanted them to get like an anthony simons over a kCP because i feel like they need shooting and more punch on ball creation from a guard yeah i mean maybe i guess the answer could be anthony black's development maybe he can become that but i don't know who did his draft uh i can't even remember a Franz Wagner clone I forget his name shit I forgot who they drafted I forget his name Evan De Silva the draft of the 22 year old yeah so maybe he gives him more shooting so I think the shooting can be solid but where's the ball handle they coming from it has to be Bencaro and it has to be Franz and that's a hard formula crack like obviously the Celtics

did it with their main ball handlers being their two lead wings but Derek White's a lot better of a ball handler than Suggs is true holiday can do a little bit when he did they have spacing at the five which makes it so you can have your two wings get to the rim better like they need one of those things either a five out spacer at the five or a ball handling guard i said evan de silva it's tristan de silva i'm tweaking today i know what you meant yeah i agree who's your who's your last one i think i have two more uh see i have do do we got rid of those shitters the portland trailblazers you another stinker they're interesting stinker though

they're a young team but they're interesting the question for them is do you have a star guard on your roster if so now what because they are in a weird spot because what happens then what do you do?

Let's say Scoot Henderson's a star what do you do then do you prioritize Shaden Sharp to be the two guard next to him do you like Anthony Simon's next to him how does that fit work do you do one thing let's say Scoots

let's say Scoot's not a star let's say Shaden's a star do you rather have Scoot next to him or Simon's next to him do you bench one do you trade the other it's still it's a log jam and though whichever guard becomes a star also the size which big you keep do you prioritize having aiden and then having an elite backup and clinging forever or do you prioritize getting rid of aiden because clinging fits the guard better like their whole roster construction really is hit just really hinges on which of their

guards takes a leap i think for them i so like there's just two paths like one obviously if you don't feel like you have any guards on your team that are going to be like the franchise guys go ahead make make the trades get some assets back and like you know we'll run this back if you think you have a star guard which every one of the three or if you think you have multiple as the moment you identify it you tell chauncey billups to go home and be with his family because you do not need any more of whatever the blazers have been running for the last couple years and i think that's a good answer i think i think that for them like we talk a lot about direction for young teams and that's a very, very big thing.

And obviously, like, the Joe Blazers are in flux. You traded for Aiton, and who has this massive contract, you just took Klingin with the seventh pick in the draft. You have, you have three guards. You need to figure some stuff out. Getting, it's, it's very clear. Tonsie Billups isn't going to be Phil Jackson. He's not going to be, you know, pop.

And so I think, like, after you figure things out in terms of personnel, Now, okay, now we can start going to get a coach who can mold the play style for the future around, around clinging and whatever guard that you decide is going to be the guy. So it's a, there's still some work to be done, but they're kind of at that point where you do need a hit or a reset again on the on the coach. Who are the guys? Who are the guys? And I really wanted to be Scoot Henderson because it's almost who's like, yo. Who are these cards? I really wanted to be Scoot Henderson because it feels like he's almost like been forgotten

about and the NBA's like solely phasing out of like the hype, the massive hype that he had just like two years ago. I remember when, again, two years ago, he was in the G League and he had like two absolute classic duels against Victor Webbenyama, bro, back when he was playing in France. And everyone's looking at Scoot as Westbrook, Derek Rose, type hybrid, just Uber. athletic guard who's going to get to the room by any means, even though he has a small stature because of the creativity and explosion and finesse around the room. And in NBA, there are injuries and all that stuff and just like clunky fit in general that

the poor injure of lasers put him in. Things just haven't panned out when it came. It seems like he doesn't have that same explosion. And like now he just met his match in the NBA, which I hope not. Yeah, that ended up being lazy analysis of the easy comp. His athleticism was oversold. Yeah. But that doesn't mean he can't be a very good player.

Like, I think him being a superstar is out of the question. But him being your starting point guard forever and like being a legit high level player, maybe sneaks into an all-star game or two, that's still very much on the table. He can still be a very good player. No rookie guard is done after the rookie year. But it has to look different than we expected. He's not going to be the guy that blows by you every single play

and it's just as an unstoppable force of nature getting into the room. He needs to develop his guard skills, his passing. Defense needs to be a calling card. Two-point shot needs to be decent because athleticism isn't good enough to make up for it. We'll see. We'll see. We will see. Who's your last thing?

Wait. Dom, who's your next team? All right. My next team, the Minnesota Tim Wolves. And there's a couple ways that you can go with this, right? You can center around Anthony Edwards. But I really think that, like, Anthony Edwards is at the point in his career where he's going to do what he does. Like, whether or not he takes the leap is ultimately going to affect, like, his stature.

But this is a team that made it to the west. and conference finals, and a big part of that was surrounding Carl Anthony Towns. And that is where my question lies, and all I want to know, I'm not trying to hate. That's not what I'm, I'm not here to hate on Kat today. No, I just want to know, is he going to have it figured out for a second straight year? Because Kat, Kat, Kat playing alongside Rudy Gobert and the way that he played last year was fantastic. And it really unlocked a whole bunch of stuff that they did, where clearly in the, in year one,

of that experiment like he was hurt he wasn't there i i just want to know like if that's going to be a consistent thing because if not then i think that that can kind of derail a lot i think like that you're such a hater at heart i love it what do you mean that has the out of everything that they do cats fit alongside gobert can derail the team more than anything else on that i agree i agree but it's just so funny because you're a hater at heart even when you're trying not to be and I respect it because your question last year was I don't think that go bear can never fit that's a big problem and then they prove to fit they figure it out in a way that's sustainable for a whole season and the whole playoff

run let's see it comes around your question is let me see it again let me see it what do you want me to do the actual thing do you want me to ask the actual question that I want to know about the Timberwolves what is car is car Anthony Towns going to actually show up in the playoffs That's the that's the thing that I actually want to know He did that last year He had the best playoff run of his entire life last year He showed up

Now did he have some thinkers naturally yes Like some players of his caliber do But he showed up He did his thing Yeah if yeah this inconsistencies That's playoff basketball Unless you're one of the five best players in the world There's gonna be up and downs

There was for aunt too Yeah he was largely fine I was trying not to hate And then y'all brought me into this space And that's not where I wanted to be meant to do You try to disguise your hate. You try to convince yourself it wasn't hate. It was a legitimate question that you guys agreed.

No, no, but you guys agreed that out of everything like cats fit next to, next to Gobert is probably the most volatile thing. Do I think that like Anthony Edwards needs to progress as a playmaker? Yes, I do think that. But at the same time, if Anthony Edwards is just Anthony Edwards and he doesn't like take a leap as a playmaker, they're going to be fine. They're still going to, they're still going to push winning like 50 games and they're still going to be. be a contender. And it's just going to be one of those things where it's like, oh, yeah, he has strengths. He has weaknesses. This is what it's going to be. And guess what? They're still going to run the offense through him. They're still going to give him the ball in crunch time. It's not

going to matter. Carl Anthony Towns and him showing up and him scoring 25 whenever they need him to, him figuring out where to be on offense and, you know, and guarding people at a high level. That is going to matter a lot for the Minnesota Timberwolves. And I have not seen Carl Anthony Towns be consistent for his entire career. So yes, it's a legitimate question that I have. He's a hater at heart. I love it. He was consistent.

He tried to mask it. It just comes out either way. No, because y'all at a time made me seem like I'm trying to do something. No. You're not trying to. That's the point. I'm not saying you came into this with ill will.

It's just who you are. Your idea of an honest question is still hating on Garlandland Town. No, I had a legitimate question. Out of everything you could have said. If you questioned. If you have a question and it's answered in a definitive fashion, if you have a question that's hating a year ago and is answered.

That's my thing. In this case, yes. Because if you have a question that's hating and it's definitively answered and put to bed and then you're still like, let me see it again. I don't trust it. So for you, so for you guys, what is the thing that's going to define the Timber Wolf's season? What's the question for you? Offensive power.

Can they rely on, can they rely on rookies to give them additional shot making? around Anthony Edwards. Terran Shannon Jr., Rob Dillingham, can they go ahead and recoup for the attrition that Mike Connolly is going through right now? Yeah, they need more offensive firepower. The defense was fine. Gobert and Kat did their thing down low

and obviously know what Aunt does. Connie's Conley. They just need more shot making to support the defense. Them more is going to be rookies. That's exactly what they're going to be. And that's the question. Can they be more productive than most rookies? Yeah, exactly.

Or if not that. Because they're going to be thrusted in more than most of them are. If not that, I don't know. Can Jada McDaniels get you like 15 points a game instead of like 11 or 10? We know that about it. I think Kat is who he is. I mean, he's going to be consistent offensively. That's the nature of being a big playing to another big.

Sometimes it's going to be tough to get to your spots you want. He did enough defensively that I'm not really worried about it. It's going to be up and down. We know that. He did a phenomenal job last year defensively, especially against the Denver Nuggets, guarding Yokich and trying to. That's what I said. I just praised it.

I just said, let me see it. Let me see it. Because that's it. You just want to see it again. Yes, because that's the clear key to everything that they do. How many years is enough seeing it before you trust it? You could see it for 10 straight years. Do y'all think that one year seeing something is like, oh yeah, that's who that player is?

I mean, I think that the question marks with him were fit related, and I think we've seen that the fit is an issue. Up and down shot making is always going to be a thing. Maybe that happens again. But let me see it. I think the fit is put to bed. I think the fit, they figured out how to make that work. Obviously, there's always need volatility in how you play. and that would be the case

if he was a lone center or not but I think the fits would go bare isn't really top of mind anymore for me yeah I try to make me something out that way I wouldn't even try to be in this mental space though it's okay again I know you're not trying to it's just who you are

it's okay next team next team next team it's all good just be you man just live into the villain persona it's fine I try to my last team is a Philadelphia 76ers I guess I really have two questions one's a minor one and one's a big picture one

minor one is can Caleb Martin be your starting four they're a bit thin obviously they assembled a big three Caleb Martin's pretty small he's a good player and in many matchups it'll be fine I think to have essentially four guards three of them are big guards in Kelly Ubrey Paul George and Caleb Martin they're like small forward-sized bodies that kind of play two three rather than three four that can be okay in most matchups Joel and beat is huge and a really good defensive player you might encounter some matchups with teams that are heavy on the offensive boards where that might become an issue.

So are you okay with that or you need to find another big at the trade deadline? Not big, but like a four-sized guy. Yeah. But the bigger question that will actually define their season, is Tyrese going to make another star leap

and make us realize this team is so much better than we thought? Because it's possible. If Tyrese Max is going to be who he is last year, we know this team is pretty good. They're going to be in the range of two to four in the east, neck and neck with the Knicks.

because also Tyrese is very young that's gotten better every single year of his career What if he's just like a top 20 player next year And this team might be in a whole different stratosphere Tyrese max was already a top 10 point guard in the NBA He was already in the Damien Liller conversations Which is known for seen coming for multitude of reasons

Him being even bitter You put him in like Deere and Fox, Trey Young Tyrese Halliborne range It's just like okay You're a routine in and out All-Star type talent yeah well what needs to happen in this game for that to happen though what needs to happen

consistent that's what is like an elevated tyrus however he needs to be a better passer because now we have pulled george to pick up some passing some scoring load there they have a playmaking d now they don't have james harland they had a few years ago they have another score so tithy's max is in a focus less on that and joel and b's got to become become better as a passer but if you're going to have this big three to have to be balanced he needs to be like a legit lead playmaker that can run, pick and rolls, hits, get passes, create and transition for others, hit all the necessary passes needed. And he's fine as a passer, but he's not, like, elite.

And he's good enough as an off-ball score, good enough as an on-ball score. The playmaking was necessary. Like, all those guys you mentioned to get in that conversation, they're all very good passers. Like, even John Morant, who's in that tier, is probably the worst passer of that bunch. Still a better passer than Tyrese, still does more with his score and gravity to create for others. And I'm sure he knows this. That's what Tyrese is probably focusing on the summer with Polic. George coming in there but it's that what if he takes the like other route and just becomes like

a glorified bucket in any capacity in every capacity similar to like jalen brunson that could be well great if he can be the best isolation score at the position that'd be awesome too yeah on yours there's levels to this understand yeah so that would be the exciting thing is if tyreece maxis one more leap in him they're going to be in the conversation for best team in the east right net right after the celtics like they can make a jump that we're like oh nix who Nick's who? And that'll be the sign factor. Yeah.

If Tyrese max is like a star star, we could be like, oh, we thought they were going to be a competition. This is clearly the second best team while Joanne is healthy. But if not, they're going to be in the same mix with them, the bucks, whoever else you want to put in there. But Tyrese and set them apart if he makes a big lead. Stay on that side. Next who?

Next who is crazy. Stay on that side. If Tyrese Maxi becomes a superstar, so I'm saying. You made your choice. You made your choice. You rock with that. I actually didn't make a choice. I think this whole topic is me clearly not making a choice

and saying what if this is like the antithesis of choice I know what you're thinking I know what you want to say it's okay I don't think you do know Selective hearing I love it Donovan I don't I think you know less about my opinion on this topic than you do of anything in the world

Understand I've already taken a person I'm all the girls for the season It's over You can say what you are I believe what I believe I believe what I believe I believe. I believe that is one question for every single

NBA team in the league. It takes us almost two hours to get there. There's two more. Oh my God. How many teams do you fucking have? How do you have two more? I don't know. I have two more. I'm not lying. What the hell? We have not talked about the Toronto Raptors and my question for them is can RJ Barrett continue his success?

Like obviously the Emanuel Quickly piece of it is also very big. R.J. is the sneaky one. where he stepped in and instantly played really, really well. And even if, like, a manual quickly doesn't become, like, this, like, long-term, you know, like league guard who's, who's, like, very, very efficient, whatever, if you have Scotty Barnes and you have RJ Barrett who's playing really well, that forward duo is intriguing.

And it's, like, it's a dime in the rough. And so, like, I was, you know, listen, I think that the Knicks still won the trade for getting OG. But if RJ, if RJ can go and score two. 20 points a night and do it very well and his shooting can come around. Now we're starting to get to a version of RJ Barrett that Knicks fan's thought could be there for years and it just never happened with the Knicks. But if he's that for the Raptors, now your building block is very, very solid. And so I think that that is like very interesting for them going into the season.

And then my last question for the Oklahoma City Thunder, who is closing the light up? You have, you have, you have, you have Jay Doug, you have Chet. you know those three are going to be around you have so many options yeah so many options your depth is immense you have caruso you have isaiah jo you have looort you have erringing you have all these guys right case of wallace played some is all all of these players are you going to do the thing now you have you have you have heartenstein are you going to play you know chat the four hardinstein at the five what are you going to do when it's the last five minutes of a game and you need to close it out i just want to know who the other two players are because that's going to be

so interesting and so key to really like all of these playoff series and who are who's going to be the closing five yeah specifically it's the heartenstein thing yeah it's my biggest question is what is going to be the balance of hardinstein and chat the five because they're going to do it because they're they're yeah and they should they're going to do it and they should but what's it going to be the capacity because that's going to give them the most versatility and if they nail that balance that's what could make them the best team in the NBA I think that you know look at them versus the Celtics they both have high perimeter talent and high level star players in Tatum and Shea

Jaylon Brown and J. Dubb they have like similar level skill set with their role players. Well I'm going to say that Drew and Derek White are better than the guys after but you know you can see them matching up but the Celtics just have a higher level in many ways unless

unless they can nail the Hardinstein and Chet thing and give themselves a different level of versatility defensively and offensively than any team in the league can currently do. It's very rare in NBA history that you have a big like Chet, who can be the best room protector on your team, one of the best in the league,

while also being elite shooter and created with the ball in his hands a little bit, if he makes that jump and can do that and be your stretch five in a way that unlocks things similar to Chris House Brazingus, but then you can also throw a look at them similar to the Timberwolves do, and have a Gobert-Kat-type thing where you have Hardinstein and Chet. Obviously, not

Go-Bair, but, you know, two bigs that can really defend really well down low and give you size while one is shooting. Think about in a playoff setting. Planning for one of those looks is already terribly hard. like planning for a Jason Tatum and Chris Osperzingis front court is very difficult

that's not super dissimilar to a J-dub and Chet stylistically now obviously Tatum's better Celtics fans calm down but imagine planning for that and then game one comes around you nail it you beat them game two they come around

and now you gotta plan for the Timberwolves because now you gotta plan for Hardinstein and Chet starting like that is very difficult and you can do that within every game so you have to deal with both looks all the time if J-Dub takes another step two so you have two legit stars next to him that's so hard to game plan for.

Yeah, exactly. Optionality is the word. The Oklahoma City Thunders seem like they've nailed that to a T. Mm-hmm. And there's the optionality with Caruso and Dort so they can play one or two elite defenders next to them. We didn't even mention that. That's crazy amount of lineups.

And then. With one of the smartest coaches in the league. Isaiah Joe got re-ups. Aaron Wiggins is still there as well. Like they got rid of Josh. They're going to have such a fun regular season. It's just going to be like, they're just going to try stuff.

And it's going to be so interesting. just straight experimentation they can be massive they can be really fast they can be great shooting they can lock down defensively like i can't i can't remember a team with more options besides like the first year the warriors got kd yeah when they still had bigs draymond was still could play the center maybe the toronto rafters yeah maybe 2019 raptors but yeah because they had a baca and marcosal so maybe that's similar yeah baca marcosal oh jana nobubi up the bench normal power that team was nasty, dude. Normal Powell, that was before they became the players they are today, obviously,

but still. Yeah. Impressive. Seacom was taking a leap. Yeah. Like, those are the types of conversations the team is going to be in in terms of versatility. Yes. And all the boys, young, still cheap, too. Sam Pressy has plethora picks in the background. Oh, God. They got it good.

He said, ooh, God. Oh, God. All right, all right, right. Hey, you guys also reminded me, too. We talked about 29 teams. There's one thing that we haven't mentioned. It's Atlanta Hawks. I think they were your team behind you. Oh, that's who I forgot. Are they on my list? I did not write them down. They were on your list. Oh, no, they're on here. Okay. That makes sense. I forgot a team. Okay. Let me write the time stamp

down. You just tried to get away from me and I'm reeling you back in. Let's talk about it. Okay. I'm glad because this is actually a team I had the most research for. I can believe you forgot about it. It'd be like that. I have so many notes. So many notes for the Atlanta Hawks. because they were very interesting this year. They're almost like swept into the rug as being irrelevant this year after they lost DeJante Murray and went to like a mini rebuild.

But I find them quite fascinating as a team. My question about them is can they build an elite defense around Trey Young? Because, you know, last year it didn't work because DeJante Murray and Trey Young were absolutely terrible together. They had among the worst lineups

in the NBA with those two playing. They were consistently very pissed for because those two just didn't fit. As talented as Dejante Marie is, they are better without him pretty clearly. Last year, when Trey was on the court and Dejante was off the court, they had a 112 offensive rating, which is 92nd percent on the league, one of the best, but they only had a 1-19 defensive rating. So they couldn't defend for shit with those two guards on the court, even though Dejante was brought in to be, like, a defensive stopper, you know? It wasn't the case.

Now they're entering a world where you have Trey Young, you have Capella and Oneeca as your two centers, and you have a fuck ton of wing-sized defenders like so many versatile defenders you got Dyson Daniels, you got Jalen Johnson, you got D'Anne Hunter, you got Zachary Richesachay. That's a lot of length to put around Tray Young. And I think the last two years

were the exception to the rule that Tray Young is instantly a top five offense in the league. Now that there's no Dezante to slow that down, I think we'll get back to the place we were at with Luca like four years ago when the team was getting interesting but they weren't contenders yet because they didn't have a second star,

but Luca made them a top five offense every year. I think Tray Young can do that with three-point shooters around him and a lob catching rim-running big man. That can be like the six or seventh offense automatically. So if you start Dyson, you start Dyson, you start Dyson, can you make an elite defense around him with the coach they have? Because if you can have like a eighth best defense and Trayong handles the offense, that might be a formula to be more interesting than people think. We don't even have to get to like an eighth best defense. Can we be average? Can we be 15 while also being the 6th, 7th, maybe 5th, best offense in the NBA.

Because that right there, you're much higher than you were last year standings-wise in the NBA and you're more of a quality depth team. Now, I have so many questions about what the starting line will look like. As a Hawksand, that's one of my biggest questions, like 1A, 1-2 thing. Like, will you actually start Dicing Damns alongside Tram? Because to me, that's the obvious pathway to get your team back to where it needs to be. but also like seniority whatever and bogey's there he's one of the best six men in the entire NBA and then DeAnd a hundred hundred is still a part of this roster for whatever reason so it's

kind of weird it'll be hard to place him off of the bench in favor of Risa as a rookie day one so yeah my bigger question almost is how much of a leap can Jalen Johnson take during his like second year of like actual not stardom than me, but like, yo, this dude is actually playing minutes. Exactly. Yeah, and that'll be the big part deciding can they have that top five offense, right? Because Trayon can do a lot, but you need

another release valve there. And we've seen bogey do that at times in past years in Al Jalen Johnson, who kind of like gives you what John Collins gave you in those years, but even better. But it's just interesting because we saw Quinn Snyder build elite offensive schemes around generational defender when he's the coach of the Jazz,

right? Gobert held down defense, and surrounded him with strictly offensive players and said he got this side, everybody else got the other. Quincytner kind of has to do the inverse, where Trayon got us offensively, can we get these defenders to hold their own and make up for that and let just hide him and everybody else focus on this side. And that's a very interesting team building dynamic that we've seen before, especially in different eras.

We don't see as much of this era because you kind of need a certain level of firepower. But I think Trayung is a type of star player that can let you do that to some success. Like he can really hide a lot of guys in the same way Trujong can. I mean the same way Luca Don't just can. That would be the best thing for his PR. Like if you just surrounded him around defenders and let everybody understand that like, yes, Trey Young can make the people around him better.

He can eat, you know, like if you have him as your point guard, your floor is actually not as low as what you think it is. Because right now we all agree. Trey Young is one of the most overhated, right? Under underrated players in the league right now because it's been a lot. lot of men and they put him in a terrible situation with Dejante but like you need he needs to be in a situation where his talents can can shine and obviously him having the ball for a majority

of the time that's where he shines so I think yeah I think quinsiders is smart enough to be like hey you you're you're good like you can you can do whatever you want everybody else fall in line follow him and then we'll be right yeah and the question is like is the defensive talent good enough, I guess. I think they'll try this. I think eventually they'll start Dicing Daniels and do the route I'm talking about. But it's one, Dyson Downs, I believe, is a really great defender. He's considered that for, like, a young player skill. You know, like, that's kind of a slight and scale. Like, he's great for a second, third year player. Can he be, like, a legit, all-defense level guard defender? He'll need to be. Can Riesieh, contribute as a rookie

and be a good team defender with that length and hit enough three-point shots that he can stay on the court? And what does Jalen Johnson's defense look like when he has to handle a bigger offensive load. So I think you know what you're going to get from Clint Capella and then Oneeka and Larry Nance off the bench. You have Clint as the big pick and roll defender doing what he can with his limited mobility and then two mobile defenders in Larry Nance and Onyka. That's fine. Are the perimeter guys in between going to be good enough? Can Jalen Johnson keep up and can reach a shape of himself? I'll take it a step further because Klingue Pella generally has not been good over the last two years. Combination just like age and just also

will be better with Dyson Daniels to think the point of attack instead of Dejonte Murray. Possibly. possibly there's there's hope for that there's hope for that because if Dyson Daniel is there to alleviate some timing issues that Klincapella has and if Kinkapel is allowed to make you know look a little bit worse or have if he's allowed to like have a little bit more time to make those types of quick second decisions then yeah you could look better yeah but he's not Gobert he can't be around a bunch of shitty defenders and make up for them that's not Clint but if you have good defenders guarding the ball can he be the guy in the back end to use his eyes I think you probably can

If he can't succeed in this situation, he's cooked. I don't know all right team. Yeah. I think he's been cooked already. I don't think there's no saving him. But we'll see. Better to offenders, let's see what happens. And again, again, and if he's cooked, you have on Yucca.

Like, they have optionality at center position. It's all about are those wings up to the task? Yeah. I agree. Isaac, Donovan. Are you guys up for the task of giving these guys the first TikTok time of our 24 season preview Load up

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Oh my god Welcome back to TikTok time Crayon eater corner Whatever you want to call it We're here And today We're going to start with a new segment I want to debut called Highlight Battle.

What I'm going to do is I pick two NBA players. This week we're doing Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook. What I'm going to do is I'm going to show you guys five matchups of five of their best highlights. We're going to see who has the best, you know, range of highlights of their name and see who wins the best out of five series. I like this. I like this. Highlight versus? Yeah, highlight versus.

There we go. Okay, let's see what they're talking about. Get back to the spirit of the verses. no we'll definitely be doing this on t3 live so every tuesday at 3 pst 6 p.m. Eastern we're live streaming on YouTube it's essentially a second episode of the pod a lot of you guys only watch the pod and don't know about the live streams that don't tap in because you think it's just like a whatever live stream it's another episode so we'll definitely doing something like this because over there we do all the stuff for you guys to interact with us we talk to chat get you guys to

decide debates decide who won draft stuff like that so if you like this you'll like the td3 lives see okay i can't i can't wait See versus after they started going They got to a point at the very end Where they were just putting random people Against each other I can't wait till we get the highlight battle Of

Bealicea versus like Kyle Anderson Like let me let me see that We're just going five on five Hit for hit I think we can make that way That's tough That's tough We're gonna be in the mud

Quality players You all you need to send in the random matchups Of highlights We need to make that happen But all right man Who has better highlights Kevin Durant or Russell Westbrook. Talk to me. First matchup.

We have Kevin Durant's game winner versus Dallas or Russell Westbrook's game winner versus Denver. See, I'm going to show you guys. That was opening night. I was opening night. I can't remember. Generally, I don't remember what happened. I don't remember this KD. Game Winner versus Dallas. Not yet

at least. It's right there. What is it? It's 1.4 seconds. It's like an instant captain shoot. It's it's nice. It's nice. It's nice. an opening night game winner is pretty cool starting the season off like that that's that's a strong entry it is and especially like from that far fading away awesome it's a tough shot they got me with the camera angles that camera angle of the crowd pop it's very far they don't do that anymore okay c's crowd is crazy too we need to get back to that oh opening day strong shot listen but the narrative

from russell westbrook's game winner in denver it moves me and it's very hard to separate that from the actual shot this shot might have want him the MVP like this gave him so much PR in a historical season that's hard to divorce yourself from yeah I believe in this shot he locked up playoff contention kicked out the Denver Nuggets also while obviously like you know

bagging the win did so many things it's a deep difficult shot it's a further shot for Russell Westbrook I'm gonna say he wins yeah this is definitely goes to Russ it goes to Russ okay okay round one game winner goes through what Russ that's fine with me

round two kd we have kd don't get sweat round two we have kevin der rann giving roy hibber a facial hey yo versus versus russell westbrook baptizing ruddygo bear

okay oh too slow ha ha ha ha kd's a small dude he destroyed riddy go bear when ruddy go bear was thought to be one of the scariest from the league roy hibber yeah

oh yeah dude katy destroyed roy hibbert when he was thought to be one of the scared and protectors in the league League. God damn. War I was a big dude. See how far back he moody?

Needed of the stomach. I know that hurt. He fell back like six yards. That had to be able. And Katie don't got no meter on his knee, too. It was a straight bone. I feel like he's getting stabbed. It's like a John Jones elbow.

God damn. Critical. But, but. But. Russell Westbroke destroyed Rudy Goberra. Look at this. Yeah.

This is on the DPOI. This stuff is so much better. because he's smaller, he got more airtime, cocked it back further, and also it's Rudy Gobert. This is the only good thing to come out of this year for Russell Westbrook, so it was a whole lot of nothing around this. This is our only bright spot we can possibly go to. Yeah.

I will say that. Russell Westbrook has this thing when he dunks, his like, there's a force that he moves with just like vertically. It's so strong. Like the force he takes, just takes them all the way through. And it looks impressive. I'm sorry, Katie. you might get swept because I'm going

with Russell Westbrook here 2-0 Russell Westbrook and it's like when Russ dunked somebody the way he reacts he's like and he just hit stick to running back like he's so hyped you got to give him more points

and you know what it is listen Ked just is at a disadvantage because you see you granted he dunked over another seven footer but I look at him and I'm like bro you're seven feet of course you're going to make that

that's what you should be doing Russell Westbrook should not be jumping that high at his height that's strong that powerful he's an oxenic crazy okay 2 o Russell Westbrook that's fine I've seen worse I've seen harder comebacks before let's see if Katie

can do it next round round three why is it not working there we go we have Katie's toe on the line jumper which sent them to overtime it could have been a game winner but his toe was in line in a game seven he sent it to team to overtime it was one big shoe away from a career

finding playoff victory. No one's ever talked about Katie's feet more than this night right here. Bro, I don't care that it didn't count as a three. This was an impressive shot. That was crazy. Not only your perfect impressive impressive shot. Didn't he have an impressive game? Did he have like a triple double this game or something like that too? Yeah, he had 40. 49 point chippado. Oh my God. Honestly, it was crazy. This was the best game of Kevin Durant's career. Probably, yeah. And I get I'm not faulting him because his toe was on the line. if he was a half a step back, it would have been the best shot of his career, too.

I'm sorry. You need to have court awareness. I'm so sorry. Let's see. Let me see. Russell Westbrook's game winner versus Golden State. This is already. And this one's interesting

because there's a missed shot. Russell Westbrook hustles, forces the rebound with the tip, gets the second rebound, and tosses up a corner of three, quintessential Russell Westbrook, putting in all the effort in the world. Again,

they actually win the game. So it immediately goes to Russell Westbrook. He had the hustle. He had the hustle. He had the hustle and he also had just as difficult of a shot because it was quick turnaround. He had no location in awareness whatsoever. I don't know. This Kevin Durant shot, it's a turnaround fade from three point range. That's a tough shot. Russell Westbrook is taking a turning three point shot fading to his left. Like from the corner to the difficulty on that is insane. He had to keep that ball alive. Yes, Russell Westbrook. as we have seen before could have hit the side of the backboard he did it that ball was

straight on the line i'm giving it to russell westberg yeah oh my god the rust sweep rust sweep was three oh wow that's a sweep if we picked this one it's a sweep it's a sweep oh my i don't make the rules pack this katy shot should have won i understand they didn't win the game man they tied the game with overtime like that was a crazy shot the margins are that close a tie versus I'll show you guys the rest of the place we have it doesn't matter anymore since the matchups over but next up okay then then Katie wins this one so we have Daniel Gafford being sent to the ground by Kevin Durant with a double crossover okay oh yeah oh yeah yeah as soon the pull-up jumper

oh yeah as soon as this play was made the Wizards GMs knew that his time was over. Dan Gaffer's time was over. We need to get off of this guy immediately. We're already embarrassing enough as an organization. This highlight being around our team. Come on now, brother. That's he did the splits. Someone that big doing the splits is like that wide. Oh, man. It's all bad. He touched the ground. Yeah. Bad. But we have Russell Westbrook destroying Luke Ridenauer's ankles too. You see this. This is the old highlight. Oh my God. He went flying. He violently flew too As if he got shoved

Bro, he flew like three feet to the left It is It is very violent I'm sorry I think I said I have to give it to KD though This is KD This is KD

This is KD Russ's crossovers Aren't like smooth And slithery It's not getting low It's like Huh It's like so aggressive

You know It's like punching the ball down This mean ass Angry Strongman ass Crossovers Like he was I'm never Yeah

Russell's Hammerfish Russell Westbrook is like if a football player played basketball and was good. That's what Russell Westbrook is. Russell Westbrook plays like Pacheco. Exactly. Type crossovers. All right.

Last matchup. We have Kevin Durant dropping hammers on the Polish hammer and he dunked on Marshing Gortat. Here we go. Seven footer dunking on seven foot. Not my Gorgatat! Look at this. Oh! I was like Janus.

That's like a Yonah's just reaches around He did put him in the basket He cradled that ball That was tough that was tough He barely jumps That's a Yonis Oh shit Damn, okay

That's impressive Oh my God That's crazy That looks like 2019 Yannis That is nasty Okay Okay let me see Russes But then we have Russ

Destroying Thon Maker Dropping the Thunder on Thon Oh RP Thon Maker's career I remember this too remember this yeah do you know

takes him passes it out let's give it back give it back we're trying to do that no he gets it right back boom but where

Russ takes off from on a consistent basis and the strength the power the thunder man how might I say on it dunce is crazy bro

the thunder it's a little zesty but is this more impressive I don't know than Kevin Durant I feel like... Don Maker is like 7-2, right?

Yes. No, but he's tall. He's mad tall. But I feel like every Russell Westberg dunk, he dunks it like it's his last time jumping that high. Like it doesn't know he's going to come down safely or not? Russell Westbrook, like Mo said, where he jumped from, it's like he's jumping at a trampoline part.

You know, it's crazy. It's like he's playing slam ball and everybody else is just there. I have to give this to Russell Westbrook. Yeah. What? Look at this Katie Dunk. Russell Westbrook's dunk are, they are hands down, the meanest dunks in NBA history. I don't think anybody has meaner, more powerful dunks than Russell Westberg.

Yeah, also in general, Postalizers are just more entertaining when they come from smaller players doing it on centers. There's that excitement tax, too. I don't know. I like the lengthy dunk. I like when guys just get that arm up high and show length. Yeah, you like late. Okay. All right, that's the end of that.

You know, you set yourself hope for that, though. Clearly, Russell Westbrook is a different animal and the same beast. I overestimated Kevin Durant's highlight tape. My bad. We got you, Russ. Next thing we're going to do. I want you guys, no, we've done a lot of guests to NBA teams lately. A couple weeks ago, we did guess by the 2K ratings, and the new 2K dropped.

On the last stream, we guessed by colleges, which you guys did way too easily. It was incredibly simple for you guys. Today we're going to do one, a new one we've never done before. You guys are going to guess the team. Based on where they were drafted. Ah. So you just see the draft selections. Whoa.

Based on where they're drafted. That's going to be a lot harder because. Because the technicality. Just because you drafted there don't mean anything. Exactly. Literally don't mean anything. Some of them aren't that hard. Some of them, again, I just, I did some question marks on some of them to make it harder.

But I don't know. Make sure you get us. There's going to be a lot of ums and awe. So make sure you talk through and give good radio. This one's going to be a little difficult. Oh, man. I'm already in hell right now. Just thinking about certain things.

Donovan's going to be the blender I can tell He's ready Don't tell me Donovan sucks at guessing Oh damn Donovan fuck Okay

I'm already I'm already bad Guess the NBA team Based on where they were drafted I'm pushing my mic forward I'm not participating First team Who is this team

Oh what number they're drafted Ah Oh I think yes That's what I thought No no no The number in the draft like first overall sixth overall

okay oh 37 this boy was ass he was a second rounder all right six wait I'm just gonna not never mind never mind terrible we're looking at a guard who was drafted early we're looking at a center who was the

10th pick in the in the draft a lottery pick center this is this might be the hardest one I shouldn't start this one this one's tough lottery center lottery current teams yeah but number six like number six and number 10 that means that these are these are bad these are like they were drafted by teams that weren't trash trash like they weren't like top

you know top three i'll give you hints neither one of those players are on the same team that drafted them right now which one six and ten yeah they're on different teams right now 37 is allowed to me because this is the second rounder like this guy is low key good may have like a couple the two and three are both second rounders there's a lot of second rounders two and three they're starting two of them yeah that's that's that's so there's not a lot of teams starting second rounders listen congratulations you succeeded we're in the blender no no no wait wait wait wait wait wait wait who okay the warriors can be the words because Andrew wiggins might be starting coming as he was get at least one guess in there before you give up Andrew wiggins was the first pick in the draft

yeah yeah you're right you have another warrior Okay, it can't be Is it? Oh, I think I don't know who this is. Wait, I think I have it. I think I have it. Too late-second rounders like that in a 15th overall pick?

Maybe. I'm going to guess I'm going to guess that number six is Damien Lillard and 15 is Janus and this is the Milwaukee Bucks. Oh my God, you got it. I didn't think you would. This is the Milwaukee Bucks. That 37 and 15 gave it away from me.

There we go. Donovan. Oh, my God, bro. 37 and 32 is Gary Trent and Chris Middleton. That is a difficult one to get. Yeah, yeah. Their best player is 15th overall. That is a hard one.

Donovan, don't ever doubt yourself again. Look at yourself in the mirror and be like, I am that guy. I got to get on my affirmations. I got you. So you are a strong and capable man. Never give up for yourself. Always believe. next team who is this team oh shit again okay listen listen number number three overall though

that should that should tell that should tell you everything because your guard your guard is number three and i think that this you should have you should have some knowledge about this actually me you might not you might not i was thinking for a second that it might have been that it might have been tray no yeah true like four or five i've got there's there's also a number one this that should be there if it was tray but yeah we're looking at number three overall guards who who who are we talking about number three over who's starting a lot of non-elite draft picks right now think about that there's three of them 48 is deep bro that's deep into the lorry you know how good you have to be in order be like number 48 and starting

pretty good we have to we have to go through through the through the teams of random teams okay Wait, wait, wait, wait, oh, oh, wait, no, I think I'm tripping I need to look at a list of themes. Oh my gosh. I might I might be tripping. I might be tripping, but I think 15, this is another situation where is 15 playing up in position. Because I think that low key kind of, yeah, is 15 Kawhi Leonard and number three James Hardin. And this is the Los Angeles Clippers. That way is big. okay these are two of the hardest ones you got off riff yeah okay wow I would never get we're here we're here so that one's tough I've done my job I can rest and now I rest okay see if you can go three for three who is this team oh shit question marks number three number three number four damn this team was the ass and they have a lot of high lottery fix okay okay okay

So it's not that hard. I know, but, okay, so you got the center. The center is the number four overall picking the draft? Yep. Is this the Boston Celtics? This is the Boston Celtics. We do this shit. They do got guys.

The number three, four, duo gives it away immediately. Yeah. And this is how you win a championship. Yeah. Boo. Who would have top five picks. You get a bunch of them. You'll win.

Shout out Sam Hinky. Nick. they called them a madman next team who is this 16 16 13 13 27 14 and 30 and number 30 number 30 on the on the wing okay okay so 16 up top again like mid was a team that built a team with almost no high picks with almost no elite talent and got out the mud no elite talent and got it out of the mud okay who does that sound like to you and got out no elite picks I mean oh got it out the mud there ain't no team that's more get it out the mud other than the Miami Heat

man those motherfuckers love mud there's a pinkies they roll around in it this is the Miami Heat them boys love struggle oh my god they see it easier out they take it the harder one all of it every time this is the Miami Heat Bam out of bio 1427

Jimmy Butler straight heart No talent. Just they figure it out. Yeah. Okay. All right. Next team. Who was this team? Uh-oh. Number two. Number two. Number three picking the draft. Interesting one.

This is not one of the harder ones. This is interesting. Because like immediately when I saw number two and number three, I thought of the Phoenix Suns. But Devin Booker, but Devin Booker is out of position here. 14. Yeah. And he was like late. Yeah. But if you, if you, if you, if you, think about the oh oh wait is this wait is this your man's this is this tray young at three richard shay at two uh rich say was the number one pick so i forgot yeah i did have the number one

pick yeah i keep thinking alex sar is the number one pick my bad almost okay so three and two jumping out to the gym for i mean you're on the right lines though you're not super far off That was a close guess. This should be very easy. Wait, is this, wait, is this, never mind. Wait, who? I'm ashamed.

I was going to say this is the Dallas Mavericks, but it's not the Dallas Mavericks. Brother, these are, these are two guards that have the number, it's a, wait, wait, wait, wait, don't, no, no, no, no, don't do it, don't do it, don't do it, don't do it, don't do it, don't do it, don't do yet, don't do yet, don't do it. I'm about the press that button. No. I understand, but the two guards, we had to think about the two guards who we drafted highly in, in their, in their draft, like, yo there's something there's something here i know it i know it you might think of you might think

of the shooting guard as a small forward that might be the issue here but it's playing down he's listed he's listed at shooting guard on the espan depth chart but you might think about him as a three traditionally hmm okay what that means i'm giving you like 15 seconds to let that do something otherwise i'm pushing this button oh my gosh okay you can't give me the time limit no i don't know me be in the blender yeah maybe because you crash in face This is the Charlotte Hornace. That's Lamello and Brandon Miller. Oh, yeah.

You're right. You're right. I see exactly what you deserve. You got us. You got us. Yep, yeah. So close. So close.

Who's 18? Who's drafted number 18 for them? Josh Green. They was not going to be their starting forward. That's what threw me off. Shit. Yep. Newby.

Okay. Next team. Who is this team? Again, top five picks. We have, we have number five, number four? Yep, yep. Oh, wait, wait, wait. Oh, wait, no, he went, he went, he went three overall.

I was thinking this might have been, uh, Evan Mowgli, but Evan Mowgli went, every Mowgli went, every Mowgli went three overall. And so I'm thinking about, that's, that's, that's close, though. That is a fantastic. With Gary's Garland five, Donald Mitchell, I don't know, do he go 11? He was, he was around 11 or 9 or whatever. That's a great guess, actually. The last, oh, I got it.

I got it. Right? Because the last, the last guard that went number five that I can remember. is that's the point guard is the air of fox that four is Keegan Murray this is the Sacramento Kings this is the Sacramento Kings you are so much better at this than I thought Donovan look at you again don't ever doubt believe in yourself I'm surprised never give that grin this is great I'm genuinely happy he's got a pocket full of sunshine he think everything's a game who is this team undrafted oh my God

Undrafted. Oh, my God. Blender, blunder, blunder. No, I'm so close. And number two overall pick. Pop, pop, bah. Number two overall pick. As the point guard?

As the point guard. As the point guard. See, that's, that's, that's a thing. Here's a hint. Here's a hint. The point guard is on the team that drafted him. Okay. Oh, might be, listen, it might be someone, someone fairly new.

Or it might not be. Or it might be. Who's to say? Number two overall pick, Mo. Come on. I need you. I need you right now because I'm kind of blanking. Number two overall pick.

Please. It's not no one on the pistons. They have drafted dudes. Think about the undrafted starting two yards. That's the best route to go. Undrafted starting two guards. There's Keon Ellis. You already said the Memphis or the Sacramento Kings.

South of Memphis Grizzly. Huh Wait Wait is that it? Is this Is this Is that John Moran Is this the Memphis Grizzlies?

No, I have the Memphis Grizzlies Yeah, no, no, no I think Desmond Bain is undrafted You think Marcus Marte is undrafted? Yeah, no It's not the Memphis is Oh, this is

Oh no, never mind Oh, say, just say it No, no, no I was gonna Oh, this is The Los Angeles Lakers This is Los Angeles Lakers. This is Los Angeles Lakers.

Give me my money now! Ah, shit! D-Lo is on the team that drafted him I didn't lie That is true yes There we go Undrafted I damn

I saw AD and LeBron I was like wait Hold on Something's not adding up here They're not there If I would have had Aiding in LeBron it's 2-11 Undrafted that is so easy

Yeah yeah Okay there we go Shit Shout to Austin Rees Next one Who is this team Number one overall number one overall pick

at the point guard position and then number five you know who that is you know who that is this is a team that got lucky one time and they never got lucky again mad number one

that's Kate Cunningham and this is the Detroit Pistons perpetually drafting at number five every fucking year this is the Pistons sad even though that they are

the worst team year in and year out I know what's great there's an additional number five pick on this team that's not on this graphic oh yeah Yeah

So many fives Unbelievable Tough Next up Who was this team All right Number one overall Shooting Guard

And Oh this is the Minnesota Timberwolves This is Anthony Edwards And the Timberwolves Okay I get you an easy one There you go

Oh yeah You put the other one Yeah If it's one in one That's been too easy Yeah And that's the end of it Easest one came last

I did not put this order right That was I think I did it backwards by accident It's hard. We're supposed to end with the clippers and bucks, but we started with them. That's hilarious.

It's okay. That was hard. That was hard, genuinely. The next thing we're going to do, we're going to be back a blind ranking, which you haven't done in a while. You guys are going to blind rank these NBA players from the 2016 NBA draft.

Blind rank players, okay. You know who's in the 2016 draft. Maybe that can help educate you, but you don't know who I'm going to pick. I won't pick the best players. I won't pick the worst players only. Like, it's going to be a mix. gonna have to play with that

okay so let's blind rank these 2016 NBA draftees first off Jamal Murray he should be two or three probably two I'll go to

I think two is a solid spot if you're we're just thinking about like the peak of Jamal Murray yeah then we can go to not a lot of players have game score yeah not a lot of players

have his peak getting rid of the two spot early is tough Like that's not giving you a lot of leeway for stars No, we're confident For a non-all-star He is a star All right, sure We'll have a conversation at two and three

He's paid like one Yeah All right next up Buddy healed Four or five I'm sure there's I'll say four He can't listen

He doesn't play defense But he's a good shooter And that is still very very valuable I'll go for Okay He can be serviceable Yeah serviceable I think there's an absolute

stinker. Like, I'm smelling like a thon maker in this in this tier right now. I think I'm going to pull out to some random second round figure. Yeah. Dragan Bender. Scalibisier. What could it be? No, there's nothing to be.

All right, next up. Jalen Brown. One. There's the guy. Yeah. It's kind of hard. Yeah. It's hard. We cannot say Jamal Marie's better than Jalen Brown. That's not possible.

Not every draft has a finals MVP, so it's a good bet to put that one at one. Yeah, Jalen Brown is better. Now, three years ago, would you put him at one? Probably not. Interesting conversations. Probably not. His development has been really impressive. Yeah.

Yeah, exactly. Okay. Next up, DeMontes is a bonus. Three. I like three for him. I'll say three comfortable. Do you think he's worse than John Murray? Yeah.

I'd rather had someone like DeMuantzabon. on my team, then it's a bonus. Sabonis is an all-star. We're going to get eviscerated in the comments. Yeah, I mean, when Jamal Murray is playing like 20-23 playoffs, Jamal Murray, then yeah, he's better, but he's done that exactly one time in his career. And how many times his bonus reached?

Well, we already made a decision, so we're here now. Exactly. You can't change it. Shout on his double doubles. Yeah, exactly. And last but not least, number five, we got Ben Simmons. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.

That sucks. This is not a bad list, though, Ben Simmel. Should Healed B5 instead of Ben Simmons? No. Why? I mean, if talking today's NBA, yeah, Simmons is a picket F5. If we go at their peak, then, yeah, Ben Simmons at five is disgusting. Totality of their career, their careers are to end today.

Yeah. Yeah. What, being said, you guys did a pretty decent job. This isn't a bad list, by any means. Yeah. I probably would have went. If it's peak version of them, probably Jalen, Ben, Sabonis Jamal Heald

Peak version? Okay You think If we're just talking peaks Oh no you're right you're right That wasn't your peak Never mind If it's if it's Peks It's Jalen Ben Jamal Sabonis healed

Wait You still don't think that like The absolute best version of Ben Simmons is Is better than Janea Brown Hell no It's close It's close

I wouldn't say hell no But I go Janele Brown What we saw in them last year Especially in the playoffs Like the two-way ability I can't get the The memory out of my head of Ben Simmons locking up Luca Donchitz.

That's like, that's the lasting image of Ben Simmons for me. I will defend Prime Ben Simmons like nobody else in the fucking world. But it's a lot easier to play with other stars when you have that three point shot. And you can make a work of Ben Simmons for sure. But Jalen's going to fit with any team ever. Like there's no team in NBA history that Jalen Brown doesn't fit on. And he's an elite defender as well. Not like Prime Ben Simmons.

Prime Ben Simmons' defense was entirely different. He was a dog. Can't lie. Yeah. But I'm cool. They both probably got to be your second best player. Ben Simmons never got to develop to the point where he could have been going to win a championship as number one option like we thought he could. We never saw that scoring development come.

So I think if they both have to be sidekicks, I'd rather have Jalen. Ben Simmons was the 3C with Bellanelli running the sideline. Don't give you sorry. I love Prime Ben Simmons, man. Dude, that team was great what you mean? Delt let's make JJ Reddick, Forkong, Corkman, Tobias Harris. He was 12 there, too. He was killing him.

He was so good, man. Murdering him. Okay, next thing we're going to do, Mo, you are going to rank your top 10 teams that you think are going to be the most fun to watch this year. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. League pass ranking, of course. Now, these are teams that I personally are going to be tuning in night in and night out, and I will be right glued to my TV with my crayons out, teeing up. And I want you guys to go ahead and judge my top 10 most exciting teams this season. all right

we'll see what you got so at number 10 I have the Houston Rockets so many moving parts so many good players genuine equality and they have a lot of fun players so much

you saw what Reed Sheppard did during Summer League that creativity that shooting off the dribble as a small guard and just overall offensive creativity I love that bro

no yeah reach Trevor is going to be white boy the week often anytime you have a deep young core you're going to be in the top 10 that should be a real segment

for it no that's kidding hey don't make me starts out. I'll start that. I'll leave that him. Of course you would. Maybe I'll look at my doc real a week. White Boyd a week. Oh, hell yeah. Of course. This week's Whiteboard the week has to be Zach Lowe. Or is it what was? Now Zach Lowe. No, Zach Lowe. Check my Twitter for thoughts on that. No, Rockets at 10 makes a little sense. I would put them a little bit higher, but I respect them on the list at all. Yeah, I had to go ahead and put them on the list. If you want to put

I'm higher, I don't blame me because Janling Green, Sangoon, and his fancy passing and unique way of scoring, you must have number 10. Number nine, we have the, this is a little bit out of order, but. This is the, or are you sent to me in. Is it? It's not. It goes to find it. Yes, it is. Oh, we know. No, it's not. No, it's not. This is me. Um, but it's okay. We'll just make some live corrections because just just, just, just, the New York Knicks. the nix okay so we better be on your list i was of course i was about to say i of course go ahead tell tell the why we're a fun watch josh green divin chenzo the dude the nova boys i love the chemistry don't disrespect his name is josh hard as well of course of course of course

i love the power of friendship and then you say the name you go ahead and add in macao bridges old janinobie's already there and julius randals coming back the optionality on the team is going to be fire. I love it. The NBA's phone when the Knicks are good. Everyone says it. It's going to be true this year. Yeah. Absolutely. Okay. So coming in at number eight, we have the Minnesota Timberwolves. So, I made this doc backwards. I'm just going to take it off the screen. Go ahead and say your team. Okay. Yeah. So at number eight, we have the Minnesota Timberwolves. Anthony Edwards is going to be there. Rob Dillingham. So you know, I told you to send me numbers and I actually what order is in.

That shit was so confusing when no numbers next to it. Don't people read text messages from like top to bottom? How is that confusing? I don't know. It's just a list of names though. Who's that the top of the list? Yeah, it's top of list and then whatever's that bottom should be assumed to be 10. That's how we like normally read stuff.

I guess you're just having to break up. Yeah. But it's a countdown. Okay, whatever. Okay. Okay. Anyways, like I was saying, number eight. The Minnesota Timber Rules.

Anthony Edwards, Rob Dillingham, Carl Anthony Towns. Cinema every night. ORA through the roof. Now, the orator does get redacted once you try to see Rudy Obear do some type of offensive move. I close my eyes when that happens. He's very talented to me. Weaside room protection is awesome. He ain't no bucket.

Okay. Number seven, the Dallas Maver. Lucas, Donchitz, the Carrier Ring have to be on there. It's a necessity, bro. Yep. At number six, I have the San Antonio Spurs. Whamby is... Could have been higher.

I feel like Wendy earns a top three spot on this list by himself, I think. That's fair. That's very fair. That's very fair. That's very fair. The chance is going to cause glazers, I don't care. We are known Wemby Glazers and I will not stop. You're not wrong. But having Wembe, I don't care. Tass you said, wooed on my forehead. I really do not care. But having

Wemby alongside CP3 and just getting easy looks so many lobs will be made just effort OEC Halli and Haleigh, bro. Sign me up for second year Wemby. Okay.

Okay. Number five, the Philadelphia 76ers. Paul George is there. There's another element of or added into this trio already. So many buckets will be given.

Sign me up. I'm again glued to my seat. comments are going to cook you for saying joel and be it's fun to watch they just don't appreciate real skill in drawing files that's all that tells me and number four i have the oklahoma city thunder they're probably going to be the best team in the NBA bare only four yes i got better teams to watch lock in a few team in the NBA young fun yeah young fun they got tread has a nice team in the west listen yeah yeah yeah I hear I hear but listen. At number three, I have LeBron James and Los Angeles Lakers alongside J.J.

Reddy. Brawny James is going to be over there, bro. Anthony James is going to be doing, yeah, double brawn, not one LeBron, but I got two for you. And then J.J. Reddick, too, giving us the most quality. J.J. Rennett is giving you the most quality, not only in-game meltdowns, a post-game interview meltdowns as well, sensational. Oh, that'll be entertainment. That'll be Hollywood cinema for sure. Exactly. old bronze two is probably going to be one of the last

the last year we see him playing at a high level who knows he's he's 40 this can't go on for much longer exactly just goes on to 45 this fuckery has to go to number two I have the Memphis Grizzlies God the league miss John Morant they're going to be so damn good

big body Edie's in the back also Jaron Jackson Jr. has a defensive player of the year he's just waiting to go ahead and have he's waiting to go ahead and look better again once Edie's back behind them and then John Moran's there to just take all the spotlight. Running Dunk Man is back. I want to see it. And at

number one, I have the Atlanta Hawks. I wish I could rip my hoodie over right now and open up my Atlanta Hawks jersey because this is the team that I'm riding and dying for. I don't have to have any expectations. I'm seeing, I'm going to watch

I'm going to watch Tray drop 32 and 13 and he will gain respect in the NBA. Hey, Mo. What? What happened to shame? What is that? You don't know, that's for sure.

When it comes to the Hawks, all I speak is facts. And they're number one on my list. Disgusting. Terrible. Listen, man, I'm ten toes. I'm a fan. That's what you call me. Right.

Downright, devilish. My top ten is Immaculate if you ask me. Is there any team that I'm a fan? I left off. Maybe you could have said the Norris palaces or something like that, but I feel like that's going to be a heartache to watch. I mean, there's no Celtics. Yeah. The Bucks, maybe. Yeah, the Bucks, Arnold Mention for sure, because Yonnes and Dame naturally. Could have said the Warriors, because Steph Curry's carrying hard. You're like the Sons? Well, this one's cool. That's all right. Yeah. Maybe each bucket, they're cool.

Okay. Next thing we're going to do. What we're going to do now is I'm going to show you guys some pictures of random NBA players over the years. And you guys got to see who can name them faster. Who knows the most randos? Okay. So it's like nostalgic players. They're not random. Like they're, they're players that you should know if you're an NBA fan, but it's players that we haven't thought about in a long time.

So we're going to see, we're going to have a nostalgia fest, essentially. Okay, let's do it. Let's go. So who can name this random NBA player first? I'm flying you, Donovan. Who is this player? Jake Lehman No one over Mo immediately

Yes this is Jake Lehman There you go Woo See Mo has a pressure arm Because Mo knows This is not his game So he's like all the points you can get Oh you say that now

Let's go Next up Who is this Jordan Hill That was easy I need to get Lakers legend Lakers tanking your legend

Yeah I need to give a one Charity work really Yeah exactly We enjoy that. I appreciate that. You're kind of a friend. It's where we're friends.

Next team. Next player. Who is this player? And he's Oliver. Ah, I said it first. No, I finished it. I said it first. I said it first.

I said it first. I said it first. I heard you say it second. I heard you say it second. Where are we now? Well, call up your wife's my company because your shit is slow. My shit is not. No.

No, that's my point. That's my point. That's my point. Sorry. Manipulate the tapes. my point. Because I got it. We'll call that one to draw.

You guys both had it immediately. I got scammed. That's John Toler right there. Shout to Anthony Tolliver, man. That guy looked like he was 35 and he was drafted. Great game. Human Roach. I have no idea who this is.

You got me. You got me. He was like an extra from like The Lake Show series, bro. I was thinking the same thing. You're looking at the security guard for Orange's New Black. Yeah. I have a name of mine, but it's going to be mad racist.

So just tell me who it is. What is it? De Anthony is you know, just saying. No, I can't, I, is this not Mohammed? This is Nazi Mohammed. Oh, let's go. Damn, yeah. Why would that be racist?

I don't, I didn't know this is him. If I want to see him, like, tall, he doesn't look tall. on this picture. That's what it is. He was like a guard. He was an African. Come over there. Come over there. I haven't guessed the point. Wow.

Bring back regionality. Okay. Speaking of, next player, who is this? Isaac Bunga. This is Isaac. Your speaking up is ridiculous. It was very funny. When the liquor drafted him, I was convincing myself he was going to be this combo

forward six nine handling the ball. I was ready. Folks like he was the next yonis. They're making disgusting YouTube videos back in the day. All right. Two to a one. There you go. Next player.

Who is this? That's James McAdoo. James Michael McAdoo to you. He got that wrong. He did not say that right. Come on, man. No, you got to reduce that. Redacted.

This man is multiple championships, by the way. Him and Patrick McCall. That's so nasty. Racking him up. Patrick McCall has a three-peat entering the league. I did not need to know that. You know, you know, Norris Cole? Back-to-back champion.

Wait. Legacies are built on the backs of the James Michael McAdoo's of the world. Right. Do you think practice works without a James Michael McA do? Pushing the start is hard? All right. What's next?

Next team. Next player. Brandabass. Brandi bass. Brains. Slow ass. Catch up grapes. Come on, Unk.

Say it louder. Bring your ventilator out. Stand up. Don't just got unked out of the pan. This is crazy. I'm glad because I like Brandon Bass, too, because he's a bucket from the baseline. fine.

They still have 14 footer. That's new. They don't make Brandon Basses in the league anymore. They don't. They don't let people grow into Brandon Bass, man. This should be DeAndre Hunter. No, I'm God. The last Brandon Bash in the NBA was John Collins.

And then he evolved. No. It's tough. He'd be working. Damn. Is John Collins the Zion Wilson of Brandon Basses? Ooh, we're cooking. okay last one or next one sabbath beer that's me that's me that's no it's not

that's literally not what the hell oh you don't have to cover internet it's a tie oh my gosh i'm getting robbed listen man the lebron james pr had me thinking shabazz was him in 2013 i thought he's gonna come in a dominate man lebrah likes him he has to be good i got to like him Bar is pulling Scraiserie LeBarr made that man So much money It's ridiculous

He hasn't even met him A day in his life too Probably Didn't even play together Wait did they No He left the Yeah he left

The media You're right Yeah Damn Pat Riley was desperate He was sick bro It's like Fuck this guy man

You ruined You ruined the first round Jopin That's why Pat Riley hates him for it Because he made a waste A draft pig Next one

last one this is a 2k legend every single Michael Thornton or 15 rebuild no no every single 2k Thomas Robinson yep I'm like that I'm like that every rebuild you do 2K made him into a superstar 78 79 overall consistent 9 point oh my god I love this guy I love this guy I'm passionate about my radio the PS4 came out we were on 2K Thomas Robinson was the face of the league on duke my builds Thomas Robinson what a name bro I didn't seem in a minute

that's crazy Mo smoked Donovan in a nostalgia fest He beat me by one I did not beat you by one I really whipped you by like four bro We're gonna run it back And the carrier is gonna be like What are you talking about?

There's multiple ties You beat me by one False ties What are you talking about smoking false ties Unk you lost it's okay False ties What do we do? I've got to beat these allegations

I got to beat it's funny It's fine The comments know You are unk And you are a nostalgia merchant That's what that is Brain the ventilators out

Don't you dare call me You're like two weeks older than me You're on Are you like exactly Two weeks older than me yeah like 15 days 15 days damn

Unk for real All right last video we're going to do Donovan I believe this is on you Yes so I'm going to listen we're going to be doing again Like a versus I'm going to give you two NBA players And you're going to let me know who's more likely to make the Hall of Fame Who's going to become a Hall of Fame by the time everything said and done

Yes interesting because we've always done Who's going to be a Hall of Famer and it's like people who are done with their careers This is fun because it's people who are like getting started or different stages. Exactly. So out of these two players, who's getting into the Hall of Fame? All right. First up, we have Lamello Ball versus Scotty Barnes.

Mm-hmm. I think Lamella Ball is good enough to one day get there maybe. But with those fucking ankles, I'm not picking Lamella Ball, do anything cumulative in his career. I'm going with the guy who I know is going to be healthy and play full seasons. It's easy going to be Scotty Barnes. As of now, I 110% agree. Although Lamele Ball might have the better highlight tape just off of playing.

three more years in the league, Scotty Barnes actually does productive work on the court. Yeah, like maybe the mellow is a higher peak, but do I think he's going to have like 10 all-star seasons or whatever that's necessary to make it? No, and neither should you, because he's never going to be healthy for that long. Uncle's a seller.

I hate to see it. All right, next one. Out of Bam matter bio or Drew Holiday. Who's making it? With the ring, I feel like Drew Holiday is almost a lock. And I feel like Bam has to win a DPOI, and voters do not want to give him that shit. He's perpetually third place.

Yeah, Drew Holiday is a lock, but I think Bam consistently throughout his career might be the better player. Sure, but will he be good enough individually and rack up enough accolades to make it without a ship? He needs to have a championship. Drew Holiday is a safer bet. Drew Holiday has a championship.

He has multiple gold medals as well. Listen, he kind of has a lot. And I hate to say it because Bam is so good. He's so underrated. Listen, without the accolades, he might be forgotten. Now, listen. Does Drew Holiday have Roger Wilson? Asia Wilson?

Does Drew Holiday have Asia Wilson? Congress for another day. Hall of Famers on my end. Let's go. I know. I'm not going to do it. Jamal Murray or Kyle Lowry. He asked me, Kyle Lauer, he asked me, Kyle Lurie's first ballot.

He asked me, Toronto Legend. in there. Wait, you think Carl Ari is going to be sorry. They're still laughing

to the last process. Are you going to say it was going to be so dumb? I want to say it's so bad

but I'm not going to disheck. I'm not going to be disrespectful. Okay. Oh, fuck, okay.

Jamal, Murray or Kyle Larry, fuck. They both have a Marine. No,

no all-star. I'm not picking Jamal Murray When Kyle Lowry is a team legend Has a ring with the team Multiple time All-Star We have to go Kyle Larry And also I believe in Kyle Larry's longevity Better than Jamal Murray

Who's just consistently out with some bullshit, bro I'm leaning Kyle Murray I'm going with the physique I'm going with Kyle Larry Wait the physique What about his physique? Hey next question All right next match

Trey Young or Jalen Brunson Ooh Trey Young is going to have the numbers Without a doubt Jamar Yeah He's going to have the numbers. Jalen Brunson will, too, but not on his way to a ring right now.

Jalen Brunson became an all-star like 27. Do you think he's going to have enough years as small guard that he's going to rack up like eight to ten all-stars? No. Eight to ten is a lot. He might get to like six, six, maximum, like six, seven maximum? If he had six, see, he better have first-team all-N-BAs in a ring. Hey, it's on the way, brother. It's on the way.

I know first team all-in-as are not coming Trey's way just yet. The league hates him. Not if the voters have anything to say about it. He might not make 13 all-N-B-A for the rest of his career. No, they do. These voters have a decide. They do hate him so much. Honestly, just-

Bill Simmons is going to vote. He's like, oh, it's over. It's over. Damn, this is hard, genuinely, because the number of clearly going on the way, Jalen Brunson generally has a chance to do something that has been done in a very long time for the New York Knicks. I might, hmm. Listen, mind you, it's the Basketball Hall of Fame.

Jaylen Brunton has national championships. Ah, okay, then we're going, Jaylin Brunton. Technicality win. Yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever. Nova, whatever. Super team win. All right, next one. Merchant.

Shea or Jha? This is good. I feel like Shea's low-key, like a lock for the Hall of Fame at this point. He's this good at this age. I don't think he's going to fall off unless his knees explode. He might be a top four player in the league for like seven years in a row. Shea's a lock. John Mrank.

could have been viewed as a top 10 player the season prior. Now, John might make it there too, but if you're a top five player in the league for extended period of time, you're going to be a Hall of Famer. And I can say that about Shea. I don't know if I said it about Jai yet. Jai has been hurt.

We've seen him miss some seasons for, you know, other stuff. Two seasons where She's out here being at the top of the league in the MVP voting, being number one seeds. Listen, it's lost seasons. And, yeah, yeah, Shays makes him. And he already has two first team all NBAs. That's not, that's a good amount by this age. Like, he might get to five or six by the time he's done.

That's a whole of fame. If Jah is able to have a sensational season and it'd be like the number one or two seed, can I genuinely see a route in where like Jha has more likely that if he reaches like that level of starving that he's supposed to. I mean, no he hasn't. But Shea is literally all already there. It's so hard to pick against him. Yeah.

It's so hard. I'm going to Leen Shea. All right. Next one. Bradley Biel? Or DeMontas Sabonis. Ew. Oh, we're having a mid-off.

One of them has to go into the Hall of Fame. Who's it going to be? You know, I think when he retires, DeMontasabonis might go overseas and be like a go goon in Europe and win like three championships for them. And that'll get him into the basketball Hall of Fame. So we're going with Sabonis. But in the NBA, neither one of these guys are having a Hall of Fame level careers. What's the most impressive thing that Bradley Bill has done in his NBA career?

Get a no trade clause and also score. Did he have the- Yeah, be a bag-getter. Yeah. That's what the most impressive thing is. Get fucking bans. That's what the most of the thing is. Get fucking bans.

But didn't he win the scoring title one year over Curry or did Curry still that? You won a scoring title and then played very few games the next year. Bailey did his job because he was hurt, sat at home and then got paid. That's a finesse. That is the most impressive thing. That was incredible. Listen, I might have to go Bradley Biel. A scoring title means something.

And you have that. And a no trade clause. That's pretty memorable. But Sabonis is made more all-stars than Bradley Biel? I don't know. We're talking about two or two or three or three. It's pretty close. God, this is disgusting.

All right next one. Yeah, I'm going to do. All right. We had Draymond Green. We ain't got time for research. We have Draymond Green versus Rudy Gobert. See, they're both a lock. And I bet that pisses Drummond off so much that they're both equally as guaranteed to make the Hall of Fame.

That must make him so mad. Now, change the question. You have to remove one from the Hall of Fame. Who are you taking a lot of? The one who's all going to punch me in my shit. Give me Rudy Goldberg. No, listen, you're going to take out Draymond with the ramifications. I want to come to you after that?

I don't know. Listen, as long as there's cameras around me. Listen, I got TMZ in the corner. They're going to be in the bushes recorded for me. Got a hefty lawsuit coming his way. Trust me. I'm a bad getter for real. I guess we got to go Draymond over, Gobert.

All right, cool. Next one. All right, we have Kyrie Irvin versus Damien Lulner. This was a conversation for a couple years about...

This is tough. Dane peaked better. He can lead a team better. We all know that. Kiree has the chip. He made another finals. He's one of the best sidekicks of all time.

Maybe being the best sidekick of all time is better than being a pretty good 1A. Yeah, he has all the meat munchers by his side too. I think Kyrie might make it quicker than Damian Lovic. He said he has the carnivores.

Yeah. I think Kyrie's going to make it quicker. We have to start calling people that. Certain fans of a carnivorous descent, they like Kyrie Irving. That's the diet. On the carnivore diet. Okay. That's tough.

Yeah. Nah, man, you're on the carnivore diet right now. You need to get off. We're here. We're here. We'll go, we're bringing. Kyrie Irving's name is etched in history. Damien Lillard is better, but not as accomplished.

and end of the day, that's what Hall of Fame rewards. Zero chips, zero finals MVP's, beard grown. I'm sorry, Dave. I didn't say that's what they say about you. I'll take Irene. They don't believe you, Dame. They don't. What are you prepared to do about it?

Apparently he's slim now. Let me know. All right, we have Carl Anthony Towns versus Jet Homegren. This is so weird. And you made this match up purposely, too. This is so like Donovan-coded right here I want to know what you think This is a rookie

And someone who's entering like year 10 What type of match-up is? I know what this is so funny So he has a 10-year head start Who's making it into the hall Let me know I know what cat is Probably not a Hall of Famer

Checking me anything Checking me anything He's just getting started Oh you're falling into his pathway Isaac pull out I'm trying to reach you God damn Oh, my God. What?

Listen. You want to do what? Listen. I think in his prime, Chet might be a DPOI and be nearly the same offensive player, cat is. Sure.

But same logic. And I think he has a good chance of being on a championship team playing next to Shea and J-Dub. I'm going with Chet. I don't know. Same logic applies to, like, with Shea gives us Alexander and J-A-L.

We already know what Shea is. We already know what Cat is. one of the best three-point shooters in NBA history as a big. And so he's not a hall of the one and also their stuff. He's not a hall of favor, but it wasn't pretty as a one. It wasn't pretty as a one. It's barely pretty as a two. Like it's,

Chet's barely did anything just yet. He's literally a rookie. So is K. And Kat has 10 years. Give me, Chet. I'm not over here fighting for Kar, Anthony. My plan worked. I can't say,

you fell for it, Isaac. You got manipulated. Oh my gosh. You got Don syndrome now. How do you feel? I have what syndrome? Don syndrome. Hateful, wake up just mad.

Mean mugging in the street. Always looking at him on the wrong side of the bed. It's dark blue. Yeah, Dawn's a Paper Tiger. All right, that's the last one. And that's the end of this episode. If people were still here, comment, this man has Dawn syndrome. we'll see y'all next week

the NBA season is back we'll see y'all next week woo