The Deep 3 Podcast - 10 Questions That Will Decide Who Wins The NBA Finals | Ep. 91

Episode Date: May 31, 2024

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I want Luca to destroy them in a way so harsh it can be described as a biblical tragedy, tweeted by Isaac G. On 51924, 10.30 p.m. Yes. How do you feel? I feel fulfilled. I feel like the prophecy is fulfilled itself. I feel like all is right in the world that we are, you know, in the scale of the multiverse,

when you see all the possible outcomes that this world could have went down, we're going down the right one. this is awful this is this is awful this is awful just for just for like the individual

Anthony Edwards agenda like it's bad I've listen I've come to the conclusion I've settled within myself that my predictions are just going to be wrong this year

now it is what it is so I don't really care about any of that at this point in time but that that game was awful that that game was actually awful. It was embarrassing, right? Like, as somebody who was reading for the Mavs and was going for the pro-Luca agenda, it was glorious. It was lovely to not be worried about it at all after the first quarter. Uh, man. Yeah. No, you're way more than even the word glorious, bro, because a lot of

people at home don't even know that right before this episode just started. We were playing the Slovenia national anthem. I literally thought you were playing some meme. You're jumping up and down inside. Welcome back to another episode As you guys can tell We were recording this Directly after the Dallas Mavericks Advanced to the NBA Finals Knocked out the Minnesota

Timberwolves in five games Proved all of us wrong Who picked the Timberwolves that started the series If you guys didn't check out The stream from this past Monday Or actually it was Tuesday Mo wasn't there

Actually no mind Mo was there He just wasn't talking And me and Donovan Broke down the entire series Everything that has happened Since our last episode How we got it wrong

Why the Timberwols failed us How the Mavs surprised us All of that go watch it like donovan said there's a deep dive into donovan psyche on how he feels about his predictions this year it's been it's been terrible but and i've been thinking about a lot of stuff this week and when i was thinking about you know like where did like stuff go wrong like is this series going to extend i got a call right i got a call from somebody we were talking about it and it's actually from luca dodgers he asked me he says right he said do i go with the brown

belt or do I go with the black belt right do I go with the louis belt or do I go with the Gucci because I'm a whoop these dudes on Thursday night because it's over right this game was a definition a belt to ask I'm glad you said that this was incredible oh my goodness we got we had a lot to talk about we're going to talk about this whole this game and this really this whole series again rehash some of stuff we talked about on stream because mo wasn't there we're going to do our finals preview as you see about the title we're going to talk about the biggest question marks we have and what will be the deciding factors of this final series essentially. It's our first, really our first time we're really thinking about it because like I said, the game just ended. It'll be great. Cue the intro

music. into talking about game five, I think we should do comment on the day. We should acknowledge one of the comments from our last episode, which if you guys didn't see it, we interviewed a bunch of future NBA players. You know, we're at the NBA Draft Combined. We got to talk to, I think, 10 NBA players are soon to be. And the comment of the day from this episode is, this podcast would have been hilarious in the 2000s. David Stern would have had an aneurysm seeing future players talk about limitless throats. Oh, yeah, we would not, listen, we would have been able to go to our first combine,

David's certain would not let us come back for a second. He wouldn't have allowed that. We were sent there by an official partner, media partner of the NBA, and we had Jared McCain talking about throat goats. Yeah, no, bro, I ain't go lie to you. We would not even be allowed in the city of Chicago because of all these interviews that we did, bro.

We wouldn't be allowed in a fucking 500 feet radius, bro, from any prospect because of the type of. episode that we did. Whatever we were there, I think Nikiel had sent a behind-the-scenes photo to one of our group chats of our college friends. And one of our friends was like, these motherfuckers got to talk to LeBron James Jr. And the first thing they did was show him a bald picture of himself. What the hell?

And that's what dreams are made of. That's what we do. It's why we're TD3. It was great to put that out. It was cool. I don't know if you all have any thoughts after a week of sitting on that being releasing. Everybody says, real cool to dip our toes in interviewing for the first time. Real excited.

Do more of it. It makes me want to do way more of it, of course. It was cool seeing how certain players had different personalities of course like that and also adding in these random personalities into our dynamic. It's always tricky to navigate. But, like, it's, I can, we all see that it's our back for sure. And we're going to keep on getting better at it once those opportunities come. Yeah, it was definitely fun, especially because, and we knew this going in.

But all, every player, whenever they're doing like a media circuit, they're going to get asked the same two, three questions, especially like when nobody really knows them like, you know, like draft prospects do. Yeah. And so for us to come in and show people, you know, ball pictures of themselves, show hair swaps, ask people about limitless throat, like all that, all that stuff. It's a nice, like, you know, break from a lot of that. So that, I felt like that was something very, very cool.

And that was the goal where we went into it. That was clearly a big focus of it. I was definitely like watching it back and I was like, I wish you did better at so-and-so thing, we should put more time into this, but in the day we had like six minutes of each person, so you can only do so much. We prioritize the fun stuff. I'm definitely excited to do a longer, sit down an interview with

one specific person, so we can really get deeper into the more basketball-y side of things. But either way, it was cool to see. Absolutely. We will be prepared next time for that type of setting. When I tell y'all, it was chaotic, it was chaotic as hell. No worry at all. Just knock on your door.

Alex Sars coming to your door. Holy shit. What the do we do bro Isaiah caller is next like it's just madness we had 10 seconds a warm-up for each person it was just it was insane there was not even not even it was just like here exactly they're they're not they're knocking the door they're like all right it's y'all's time and we just have to and then like when we got brian in the day by the time where we had like four minutes in they were he knocking the door telling us to wrap it up we had to ignore it for a little bit and they just kept knocking i was like all right get them out of here yeah the funniest part was

Zach Edie's representation or whatever was like, he has three minutes. Yeah, and I think you guys are like, we're taking five. That's hilarious, right. Yeah, man. Let's talk about game five of the conference finals, man. Let's get into the main topics here. So this series ended in a brisk five games. It felt like it was going to be four games when the went up three O.

And we saw the one game that Minnesota was able to win was coincidentally, the one game were Kyrie Irving and Luca Donchish shot like shit from the field. Next game, not so much. What are y'all, what is your takeaway from the series? Because me and Donovan got to talk at length on the stream. Let me know what you think. First and foremost, this individual game, I feel like doesn't represent who the 10 rules are. You know, like this is a very one-off game.

If you look at every single game before this game, one, two, three, four. The game, one, two, three, and four, it's all close. None of them were, like, above, like, eight points at, the end of the fourth quarter. But this game, this like continuously told me that, you know, quarantine towns is going to goof up. And the Minnesota Timberwolves don't have enough offensive creativity and organization organizational skills to compete with the Dallas Mavericks.

And on top of that, really just showed me more, I feel like the series really told me more about the Dallas Mavericks than it did with the Minnesota Timberwolves. I agree. and Jason Kidd and the schemes and all the looks that he was throwing at Anthony Edwards was truly like mind-boggling, you know, to watch from my perspective.

It's interesting how we've seen several times now that the Mavs, when they made these deep runs, you know, the second time we've seen it, this in 2022, when they're facing these great teams on a brink of elimination, how is it they always beat the living shed out of him? Like, this first the sons, then this, like, is this a look at Donchish thing? Is this a Jason Kidd thing?

Is it dumb luck? how are they just demolishing teams and close-out games like this repeatedly? No, bro, it's a Luka thing. It's a hundred percent of Luka thing. And we're going to talk about them at length today. Mo, you said that you thought that this series taught you more about the Dallas Mavericks.

I disagree. Bro, I learned a lot about the Minnesota Tim Wolves. And I think the biggest thing that I learned and maybe not like learned, but like confirmed is like I we rushed you know on Anthony Edwards he's not ready he's not he's not ready because the way that Luca came out in this game Luca comes out hitting step back three after step back three locked in focused every single shot that he knocks down he's turned into it somebody in the crowd he has scored the boys by himself that's what I'm saying he's he's

fired up it felt like it didn't want to play basketball until the second quarter it felt like he wasn't engaged and the stuff like he was just very passive and obviously Dallas was doing a lot of stuff to make sure that he wasn't on ball as much as he normally is but the energy from the entire Minnesota team was off and you can see when Luca comes out and Lucas like hey we're going to do X Y and Z or in game one when Kyrie's like hey I'm going to lead the team you guys are going to follow me when your star is able to do that it's a very one-track mine for the rest of the team. That's something that we didn't see from Anthony Edwards tonight. It's something that we didn't necessarily see throughout the series. And I think that that's kind

of one of the next levels when you're at the Western Conference Finals. You've already played an extra month and a half of basketball. That's something that we need to see from Ant moving forward. And like, I think that he can get there. But that was the biggest difference that jumped out to me tonight. I think what you're describing is you, when somebody hones in on a star player, right? Let's call Luke with Donchich. And let's say their game plan is double him, get the ball out of his hands, make the ball rotate and a corner shooter beat you. A star like Anthony Edwards, if he gets doubled, he's going to hit the short roll and they're going to do exactly what the defense wants. We see Luca get doubled and fake pass to the outside, pivot, swipe through, throw a lot to the big man.

Like he knows has counters on counters to not fall victim to whatever the defense wants to do on any given play. And still has to make that adjustment. A lot of stars can do it in the regular season, do it against a lesser defense in an early round, do all these things. things. Then you face an elite defense like a Jason Kidd defense and they make you uncomfortable. It's hard to be able to do the opposite of what they want you to do. That's the type of thing that makes it seem like he's passive and really he's just in mental hell can't figure out what to do. And it feels like lack of effort when really it's just being dominated, I think. Yeah, I'm not, I mean, listen, it, I think I think what you're describing is like the how

you can become not passive. It's kind of, it's kind of like, it's kind of like the on waiters things. It's like, I'd rather you go 0 for 30 than 0 for now. You know, damn. I'd rather, I'd rather go out shooting on some Westbrook stuff going like 18 to 43. So would he is, but it's hard. He can't get to the spot. Listen, listen, I know, I know. I know, but when that game, I, we all knew from nine minutes on, this game is a wrap. Like, it's, it's, it's absolutely over because Luca's going to come in here and he's going to step on all of your necks and a hundred percent there's a there's like and i i we're saying we're saying the same thing in terms of like the great great players yes they take what the defense gives you

but there's also an attitude and just like in a mentality of like not like i see i just i'm just going to do what i want to do and i'll i'll manipulate you however i want to and we just didn't see that from it over over the series yeah you're fair right right He's also matched up against like an offensive genius who's probably one of the best who've ever seen at that and doing the opposite what the defense wants.

Yeah. Anthony Edwards is just like 22, 23 years old and he's going up against the best proactive passer in the NBA probably outside of like Nicola Yolkich and I don't know LeBron James or other else you want to throw up there. But yeah,

like this is really witnessing like two specific different types of player archetypes. One thrives in quite literally any situation. another like Anthony Edwards who tends to be like more score first but we've seen him improve in passing in general. We see we constantly see this one singular archetype prevailed through anything that's been given to him.

I've been saying this like proactive versus reactive pastor shit for like a summer now. And Anthony Edwards, you know, he's a reactive passion. There's nothing wrong with that. But in order to go ahead and be invincible, damn mere indestructible towards any defense as the like primary ball handler, which he was. You're going to have to learn how to make those reads quicker and shit like that. But also, like, guys around them have to go ahead and make this simple. But Donovan, going back to what you said earlier, you said you watched the first nine minutes of the game and you knew it was a rap.

First three. First three. First three. First three. I knew it was a rap during the first three, two minutes as well when they fucking fed Rudy go bear the ball like two, three, four times. They did the same thing we were talking about in the first game of the Pelican series against OKC when, or no, second game actually. They don't get downloaded, Jonas Falunas every game, every play because they knew Chet wasn't big enough to guard him. And I was like, fucking please keep doing that.

You're not going to outscore top offense with Jonas Falunus postups. They were trying to do that shit, Rudy Gobert against Luca Donchish's big ass. Like, what are we talking about? Bro, he had seven shot attempts in the first quarter. He should have seven shot attempts in the total game, bro. What the what is going on here? To be fair, he did a decent job with that. He wasn't playing poorly, but it's like, is that is that your adjustment?

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Guess y'all want to go home by like 30 and that's exactly what happened, bro. I love about this game is on the same topic of the first quarter being telling. We've seen Luca, he outscored the entire Timberwolves in the first quarter, as everyone knows. He does it all the time. He does it all the time. He's the top first quarter score in the league. But he does it all the time in like October against the Hornets. And we're like, oh, Luke is on one, be on 50 point watch.

He did this shit at a close game of a Western Conference finals? What are we talking about? That is ridiculous. Like, Donovan, everything you're talking about by Anthony Edwards, not having that gear in him to take over a game in part due to youth and experience. I don't know how many people have that type of gear better than Luca does. And on the last stream, you were making fun of me a little bit. We're talking about how everybody, including me, I have like terminal all-time ranking brain and terminal, like, is this the best you've ever seen brain? And it's true, I don't feel bad about it when I'm watching Luca Dantas right now.

Because I feel like I'm watching one of the best offensive players I've ever seen. It feels exactly like watching Yokic, exactly like watching LeBron. It's incredible. No, there's, there was the stuff that I was talking about where it's like, Ricking, Ranking, Ranking, Ranking, Ranking, all time, all time, all time. No, like somebody in one of our chats has sent in the question is like, is Luca the best 25 year old ever? And I was like, bro, shut up.

Yeah, shut up. What are we talking about? Like, so, so minute. Now, I do agree everything that we've seen this entire year, this entire playoff run tonight. This is all time stuff, right? This is stuff that a very rare air of players have done and do consistently. and Luke is there so like if like if we want to talk about it we can't we can with him he's in that stratosphere already but I'm just yeah I think I'm still kind of in shock that he was

able to come out so definitively and knock down everything in the first corner and it's just like hey this is I don't know what you guys thought that this was but this is this is my show and on that end it's very very impressive on the other end I do feel like the entire hire Tim Wolves team the first half effort on all of them they like they they gave up in the middle of the second quarter and then try to turn it back up you know try to get another run they the the effort that they got or that they gave in the first half it was actually embarrassing I felt I actually felt bad for Minnesota fans because I was like bro like y'all have in the in the conference finals you had three games at home oh for three at home not one not one win

that's embarrassing and that's what all-time greatness does to you it embarrasses you you know what annoys me we've had to apologize about the Minnesota Timberwolves over recent weeks

because they've been on a one hell of run upended the rain champs a feat that none of us expected that right we thought the Nuggets would win and not to say easily but we had no lack of confidence in the Nuggets ability to beat the Timberwolves so we've had to apologize

and eat crow and talk about how they've been better than we expected and all this stuff this series they looked exactly how we expected them to we just thought the nuggets could expose these weaknesses and they couldn't for a variety of reasons we talked about it was luca and the mabs i did exactly we thought the nuggets would so in the long run i think we ended up being right about their late game offense not being good enough about them needing more of a scoring punch about them not being able to go just play for play with elite playmakers like a luka like a yokech all of it ended up being true it was just the wrong team to point it across than we expected. Yeah, I mean, this team was quite literally built to go ahead and beat a team like

the Denver Nuggets. They catered all their money towards the back end with Rudy Gobert, Cad and Nasrid and all them boys. But the front end is where it's like you see real issues. And they're scatterbrain when it comes to figuring out what to do with Luca Donchitz. You know, he quite literally was feasting on Rudy Gober every time they put that boy in a pick and roll. don't matter what it is whether he's like doing the like no looks like you said isaac cross the course skip passes or whatever like he's getting quite literally whatever he wants and nicole yokech does the same thing but it's all in the back end when you have like literally trees all around yokech and d p oi or whatever like it's a little tougher a lot tougher and yeah it also doesn't

help that nicole yokch is supporting cast all of them shit the bed for multiple games in the series and yeah let them blow a 20 point fourth quarter lead in the close out game seven like Like, that's a, I guess, it's, it's got to be so painful if you're a true Denver fan. Like, obviously I'm a big Yolkish fan. I'm bringing for them. But if you're a true Denver fan, this has to be so infuriating to see that you were so close to being this team. And what the Mazz are doing is exactly what your team should have done. I would be irate.

It's terrible. No, you, you're not, you're not going to get over it. Now. Yeah. Question. If you're a Nuggish fan. Before my question, I have to preface this, Timberwell's fan. Still, regardless of the hell, regardless of what happened.

And you guys had a fantastic season, surpassed everyone's expectations and all that other shit. Good job. But my question to you, Isaac and Donovan, and also the viewers watching and listening to, leave a like on this video, five star, five star, every platform. What the, what do the, what do the, what do the, what do you do to help get into other deals? They trade Carl and DTowns. Oh, my God. I don't think they, I don't think they got to do anything. I'm going to say, I'm going to say for, for these reasons, when you look at what the maps were able to do.

all series. And when you look at the team in the other conference in Boston and the way that they are built, having two guys that can legitimately become consistent flamethrowers at any time that require significant attention that you can't double both of them, that is what, that's what Minnesota needs. And I don't think that Carl Anthony Towns is that person for Minnesota. Dallas is able to go. Obviously, Luca is amazing. But what are you going to do? Not double Luca to go double Kyrie?

Like, it's just not, that's not going to happen or it's just not, it's not going to work. If you go to Boston, if you double Jason Tatum, all right, fine. Jalen Brown is right there. I think that, like, we saw this entire series. You double Anthony Edwards. Who else is out there that you trust to consistently lift up the rest of your team? And Kat, listen, he didn't shoot well. from three throughout the series, he had some nice moments offensively.

I just don't think that he's going to be the guy to be your second star that actually commands the kind of respect that championship level teams do. And so I think you have to shop them, especially because Rudy's going to be on this team. And so that's why I think the main point of upgrade is going to be for them. Yeah, I get it. If they want to be proactive and makes that kind of move early and realize there's a gear to be made and if they see a deal out there that makes sense, I'm for it.

I won't judge it by any means. I won't say it's a mistake to trade Carltony Towns. But I also think you're in the Western Carverts finals. You're playing competitive games against a team that made the finals and your best player is 23

only going to get better. They've earned the right to stand pat and see if they can run it back one more time. So I'm not going to say they have to trade them, but I'd understand. If they agree with you,

it would be good foresight, I think. I can agree, but also I can disagree because this is the most success that you've had over the last 20-some years in the first thing you want to do. Now, listen, I kind of agree with you because long-term, I don't know

if Carringtonian talents will necessarily be able to get the job done, but you can't assume that right away, right after like they had this glorious run immediately, you know? Yeah, the thing is like, it's a game of matchups and they're clearly good enough as they're as good as any of these teams. If they happen to play the Nuggets in the conference finals instead of the second round,

they'd be in the finals and be having a different conversation. It just comes down to small differences and this team happened to be matched up better against them than Nuggets did. But I think when you're clearly good enough, you don't have to blow up a good thing unless there's a real reason to because you see a specific deal that you know it would be better. But we saw all year that they had these deficiencies, right? And we knew that when it comes time for for playoff basketball, they are going to have these specific issues. And obviously you're not going to, or I mean, who knows, you might, you might run into the Mavericks. every single year, but they, if you are going to trust Car Anthony Towns moving forward, that is a very, very big bet that personally I'm not comfortable with and talking about,

oh, he's going to put it together. We're going into year 10 of Car Anthony Towns. If he hasn't figured it out by now, he's not going to do it a decade into his career. But it's year three with this core. It's a little, I don't what you mean, though. I think if they could trade for a Kyrie Irving for Kat, some type of guy like that's making that type of difference, then sure.

But if the deal's not out there to get that star, I don't think they have to make moves, so what I'm saying? That's where I think I can agree with you, Donovan, connecting the bridge here. Like, they do need more perimeter help. They do need another guy who commands serious attention. Like, my colony is great and all that,

but there's only so far than little 37-year-old legs can go on a consistent basis. If this is like 2016, 2017, Mike Conley, back when he was an all-star replacement, giving folks 17 to 21 points a night, now this is a different conversation. But sadly, this is not. And can I interest you guys in the Darius Garland for Anthony Tarney? No, but you can interest me? No, no, no, but you can interest me in a Donovan Mitchell. If you can interest me to Donovan Mitchell and starting Nas read, then we're talking.

Then I'll do it. Oh, no, that's, ooh. about point guard Donovan Mitchell and Anthony Edwards Yeah Then you're talking my language Then I'm with it Then send Carlton Towns wherever he needs to go

It's not happening But nobody Listen it makes sense We're all involved It does And it should happen But like you guys are saying We're going to

Going into next season If the Minnesota Timberwells I'm looking at the roster And they're like all right There's five minutes left in the game Right We need options outside of just one player who's on the floor who do we trust we trust in 38 37 38 year

of Mike Conley is Rudy Gober going to be on the floor if not are we going to have 50 million dollars on the bench in in crunch time yeah is do we trust jada McDaniels to consistently be like this second option if it gets doubled do again do we trust car anti-towns in that in that situation. And if you are going into the last five minutes and you say we have Andy Edwards and Nasreed, I love Nasreed, right? I might get a Nasreed tattoo. That's not going to beat the other top elite teams in the entire league, whether you're in the west or the east. So you have to make a move. You have to get that. I like some of the Nasreed songs. What the fuck does he know about fourth quarter offense? It's not going to happen. It's not going to happen. Folks is out here really

in Nazaree tattoos. Tough scene, man. And then he tries to behead Derek lively. That was crazy. That is kind of wild. Yeah, that I was out of pocket. I feel so bad for lively. I hope he's okay. But yeah, man, like I said, y'all, if you didn't get to watch the stream, go back and watch

that VOD and watch the portion where we talk about this series because me and Donovan went in depth about how we're here, how the Mavericks exposed, the Timberwolves and how they did things differently than the Nuggets. We went deep into it there. So go back to watch that because now it's time for us to talk about the NBA finals and preview the biggest series a year and I will say first off I'll just say

I'm so glad we got this matchup this is amazing for so many reasons for years Celtics fans have pushed the agenda of Tatum being better

than Luca wrong as shit obviously but now we get that head to head Kyrie back in Celtics back in Boston awesome

all KP Luca Donchich facing each other awesome there's just so many layers Kyrie potentially getting another ring Lucas being

clown this early Jason Kidd getting a ring as a mavericks potential or player hand potentially as a coach fucking crazy too so many good narratives one of these duos will come out on top being one of the more more successful duos of potentially ambit history like there's so many storylines here it's better than last year finals matchup in terms of storylines a hundred percent also oh my god does grant williams get a ring if dallas wins a championship because doesn't oh hell nah because doesn't everybody who played on the on the team like at any point in the

season? Yeah, they qualify. Isn't it up to the team? It's probably up to the team. I don't know if they're going to give him one. He'd get one. I mean, he didn't give him a bro, look at my request to trade if the Dallas and I riggs do that. Is Grant Williams getting a ring? Hey, shout out Graham Williams. Is that what we're doing? Love it. But yeah, man, let's, what we're going to do today is each of us have one question in regards to each team that we think are going to be some of the swing factors in the series. Donovan, what's your, what's your first, question for the Mavericks? My first question for the Mavericks is, are you going to double Jason Tatum?

We've seen, we've seen Tatum a lot this postseason, get doubles, get a lot of attention. And especially early on in the playoffs, you look at his numbers and you're like, yo, like, why is Jason Tatum not being Jason Tatum? Why is he doing, you know, why is he being so passive? And a lot of it, right, some of it, I'm going to put on Jason Tatum because the same thing that we were talking about with Luca, where like the great, great players. you get to a certain point where you're just like, nah, I'm going to do what I want.

But when you are taking what the defense gives you, your numbers are going to be down a little bit. And if they are committed to making everybody else beat them, making Jalen Brown be finals MVP, making Drew Holiday, hit timely shots, all that, then I think that that's going to be a very interesting piece. And if they don't, Jason Tatum, like your time is now, right? You're going to be able to go one-on-one.

So I'm very interested to see how the Mavs play. Tatum. Me too. I tweeted this during the game. Jason Kidd is the weirdest fucking coach of all time. In the regular season, every Mavs fan on planet Earth will tell you this guy sucks and he's holding his back and we need to get him out of here. But then now two playoff runs in a row where they have a legit team, you know, 22 and

now, he puts together defensive masterclasses and just puts teams in shackles with really smart targeted game plans and specific weakness points. this is his bread and butter so if anybody's going to be able to expose all the weaknesses that you've talked about all year Donovan with their overreliance on three-pointers Jason Tatum's lack of tenacity

going to the rim all these things I believe it'll be Jason K, I do does that but I don't know what his game plans to be to your point I don't know I don't know what the there's not a lot of polls to poke out on this team I don't know what he's going to do but I trust he'll figure something out

yeah yeah and I guess that can lead into my second question will Joe Mazula get more creative on his offense is he going to go ban for ban bar for bar schematic for schematic against jason kid how will he do in those types of situations yeah uh you know this is kind of coughing baby versus coughing baby in some regards jason kid doesn't do much offensively but lucca's luka right so we're really talking about jason kit's defense versus jo mazua's offense

It's so hard Okay, so I guess before we get into this Who do you guys think I'm going to win the series? Let's say that first I might go with the Celtics Because I feel like if any team is built to Go ahead And throw so many bodies

And make Lucas life hell It's the Boston Celtics Hmm Yeah, they have a lot of defenders to defend him I first of all I'm going Mavs no matter what Because I'm done trying to pretend I know who's going to win his series I'm always wrong like Donovan this year

I want Luke to win I'm going Mavs for speaking to do existence Let me say that. I want Luca to win too. I hope you're right. We're team Mavs. I don't give a shit about what my brain says. Even though my brain says it's hard to beat the number one offense and number two defense.

We're going Mavs. I don't know who I feel about the Celtics offense because we've talked obviously all year about how we don't trust them at times, but they still beat everybody in five, you know? I wouldn't even pay too much attention to the Boston Celtics offense because I think their greatest strength is their defense. We always talk about their offense and how inconsistent it can be. And also the shit, which is very true. And everyone's been right about that throughout this entire, like, Jason Tatum-led Celtics era, you know?

But their defense is what it gives me hope for them to finally overachieve this massive something or drought that they've been in over the last, I don't know, 16 years or whatever. Yeah. The Jason Kidd was able to lock down the Timberwolves with really basic stuff. They were doing some incredibly simple shit to lock down the paint and do a lot of gap coverages so they can. can't have the shut off driving lanes and the Timberwolves didn't have the shooting the passing or really anything to prevent that from happening and I was you know ended up being the downfall then for all the reason you guys talked about didn't have the talent or whatever you can't do it against the Celtics right with their five out spacing with three or four

ball handlers that can legitimately create their own shot you're not going to be able to shut down the paint that easily so I feel like Christop Sporzingis and whatever he can bring is going to be a big factor there and that's my first question is can Derek lively abuse Chris Sforzingis down low in a similar way they did to Chet Hongren because this team has a big man rotation, this team be the Mavericks, that's real physical, going to beat you up down low with their size. And Chris Hops Porzingis is really good at times can be soft as baby shit and that can be the exact type of big man that they can really make struggle.

So I feel like he's a swing factor and is his spacing and rim protection going to outweigh any lack of interior that he has? Yeah, that's fair. Moe, to answer your question, no. Missoula's not going to go ban for me. Missoula is, the Celtics are very, it's hilarious. No, it is very funny. The Celtics love what they do, and they are going to live and die by their system.

We've seen Missoula be very hesitant to make adjustments, even to their rotation, because this is just how they play, right? you trust your guys and stuff like that. I think that unless they go down to one or maybe even three one and they start getting really, really desperate, that's the only time that I can see Boston really switching up kind of how they play or making massive adjustments. Outside of that, I think that they understand we're kind of playing the math on this. We have a lot of really good shooters.

We're going to, you know, there's going to be some three-point variance, but we will live with that because for the entire year it's gotten us to win 80% of our games or not 90 but you know a very high percentage of our game so I don't think that Missoula is going to that's going to be the interesting part.

The problem so they beat the Timberwolves right in large part because the Dallas defense is just as good as anybody to lock in and match you defensively right even though we know the Timberwolds are the best defense in the league. Dallas is playing at a level that's damn your kind of

proximate that and you know they have Luca and they have Kyrie in the fourth quarter I'll execute you. That was a big advantage because we know that the Timberwolves have the 24th clutch offense in the league for the entire season. We know it's not necessarily a strength of theirs. What happens when we have, again, two elite defenses in Dallas and Boston, but they both have elite offenses. Do you trust Luca because he's Luca or the Celtics because they're ridiculously deep and have five shooters in the court all time and have the best offense in the league for the entire season? I don't know if the Mavericks have the same advantages they had against September was there. What's the score with six minutes left? TIE game. Then you have to go with the

Dallas Mavericks if that's going to be the case. If the series is going to go that way, then I kind of want to lean to Dallas Mavericks because you have the two best closers that the NBA has to offer versus late game Celtics offense, which is just like swing, swing, swing three, swing, three, rebound or try to get a rebound, you know? It works though. It works more than it doesn't and we really pinpoint the times it doesn't work and Biden doesn't work it means they win a close game instead of a blowout like it's not a bad formula you know yes but when you are but when you're going up against a guy like Luca it doesn't like we're not talking about these like large sample sizes anymore of you know we've you know we've played this way for for two

years and this has our you know it has its results I know that over the course of an 82 game regular season, we are going to win a lot more playing this style than playing any other type of way. That's all good. You got a killer coming into Boston ready to ruin everything that you have worked for for five years, right? Luca does not care about any of that. So if you are not prepared to change anything, if you are not prepared to potentially look at anything differently, you might get you might get beat and if that if the finals plays out in the exact script that the western conference finals did where we get to five minutes left and we pause the game and we jump in and it's 102 102 I think I like Dallas in that matchup but I am going to

I pick Boston at the beginning of the year because I think that they are just just the best team. And I think that in this series, even before we get to the last five minutes, I think that the fact that their release valves are much more dangerous than what we saw against Minnesota and they're going to be able to make plays and they're going to be in the position to be up four or up five and have a little bit of wig room. So I'm going to take Boston. I'm going to take Boston in six in this series. Man, I'm going to Madison 7. I think I'm going to do the same logic I did when I picked Nix over 76ers I think these teams as of the way they're playing right now are almost equally as good

although I think this something's better on paper but let's say they're of comparable ability right now and how they're playing and I chose the 76 years I mean the Nix because I thought in a game seven I am not going to pick Jeline Bede in a game seven I'm going to pick Jalen Brunson and the Knicks offense to I would execute them I feel the same way about this one. If it goes to seven, I'm picking the Mavs. If the, I could definitely see a world like you're saying where the Celtics find a way to close out early, that wouldn't surprise me. But if we have a game seven, I'm not betting against Luga-Donchich. That's 100% fair. You're trying so hard to fucking be right and it's hilarious, right? You're in hell. I just told you I'm picking

the math as a matter what. I feel like I'm doing the opposite trying to be right. I feel like I told you from the jump. Fuck whatever my brain says. I'm riding with the Mavs. He said, fuck all logic, right? He's letting the logic down. Oh, man, you're in the trenches. I don't blame you go with the Mavs. I'm riding with the Mavs regardless. I want to go with the Mazz, but my brain just tells me the Boston Sels. I'm looking right here, the last matchup that we saw Dallas go ahead, go up against the Boston Celtics. It was March 1st, I believe, and the score was 110 to 138 regular season. No one gives a fuck. And also, it was like early March. No one really cares. but the score was 110, 138, Bosn and Celtics destroyed them that game also.

And looking at like team stats or whatnot, of course, surprise, surprise, the Boston Celtics made like 21 threes to the Dallas Mavericks, nine threes. Absolutely berated them. And that was pretty much the story of the game. And this is where like the series probably like, this is the deciding factor of the series. now that game specifically that I just mentioned as well Luca didn't go nuclear at all that was mostly a Kyrie Irving lead game I believe he put up like 36 or whatever and Luca had a little calm 19

obviously that probably won't be the case on most nights but if it is and if any team can make that issue happen on consistent basis this team has the soldiers to do so yeah okay so my next question is who's guarding Jason Tatum which player because you got PJ Washington who's been their Swiss Army knife he's not great at defending on ball right he's never guarding the lead ball handlers usually

he's not good at running around screens that's not his game Derek Jones is a bit slight do you want him guarding Jason Tatum in a pick and roll setting you're not going to put Luke on the assignment I don't know obviously not Kyrie like who's going to be the main guy on him

I really don't know I think you might be okay with Derek Jones Jr. on Tatum I do Because I think, I think Tatum, we've seen, even though that he's gotten better, we've seen what he likes to do. And I think if you put length on Jason Tatum, you might be able to get him into situations where he starts settling for the stepback threes a lot. He might, you know, take some tough jumpers instead of consistently going downhill and getting to the basket. And so Dallas is probably, they can get away with that. if Derek Young Jr. plays it.

Then we'll PG-W Washington on Jalen Brown? Yeah. And then you got Luca on Drew, Kyrie on Derek White. It's not bad. I don't hate that. Yeah, okay. Then on the other side, this is the hard part,

because I feel like the Celtics have a million ways they can defend, Luca and Kyrie, and they can just swap them out until they find whichever one works. Jason Tatum's a pretty good Luca defender. Drew Holiday, Drew Holiday. They can both guard him.

Derek White, pretty good option. Jaylon Brown, to have on kairi like they have so many different first to look at their disposal one of them is going to work and one of them is going to make these guys struggle more than timbrelars are able to i assume so what struggle do you want to pick yeah exactly there is none fuck like what's the biggest weakness of the we talk about fourth quarter offense and the over alliance on threes but defensively like what can they pick at

is lucca going to just go at kp i guess I mean it's possible It's tough man They're so good I hate that it's gonna be the problem I hate that this feels like it inevitably ends up In a Boston championship Please Lord have mercy

This is not what I this is not why I watch All 82 games in the season four To see Jason Tatum Great player but whatever It's a Celtics fans I don't want to see those cocktails It's happy over there in Massachusetts They don't deserve it

This is what you watch ASU games for it because they're the best team all year and it feels like they're still the best team and they're probably going to cruise like it's tough 100%. 100%. All right. I'm going to go to my next question though. And this has nothing to do. Well,

not nothing, but I'm just asking. Is Jane and Brown about to win finals MVP? Oh man. Let's fire up the disgusting Twitter brain raw talks. I think we're headed towards a nasty discussion summer and I think that Jalen Brown coming off of an Eastern Conference Finals MVP is perfectly positioned

to go and get another one just because the way that Tatum has played all year has been, hey look, as long as we win, I'm all good, right? We haven't seen him force to issue a bunch of times and the time where we have seen Tatum really, really rise up, right?

score 30, do all this things that people want him to do, it's been kind of out of necessity. But Jaylon Brown's been playing well all playoffs long. And if Dallas does decide, hey, we're going to show, you know, we're going to show some more bodies at Jason Tatum. Jaylon Brown is as good of a release valve second option as a lot of teams can have. And as long as we don't have another highlight row of him having 12 turnovers trying to do a right to left crossover. he's going to be just fine.

He might win finals MVP. Yeah, I could buy that, but it's going to be Luca Donchish. What's the odds on that? I'm going to have to get in on that. Yeah, it's clearly Lucas Award, Kyrie second. But if it wasn't for that, I'd understand you. Isaac, what's your next question? You don't believe it?

No, no, I think you're right. I think, well, okay, I think Jason Tim's going to win it. I think he probably should have won Carpins' MVP. I think it was a bit silly. He led the team in every category. I think I would hope, because like what you're saying makes sense. It's a throw a lot of bodies at him. There's going to be release valves.

Jalen Brown is going to be the benefactor of tough cover just being thrown to the main guy. All that makes sense. I would hope that finals MVP voters understand that and realize the impact Jason Tatum has. But then again, it might just be the same voters who did conference finals MVP. I don't even know who voted for that. Listen, man, six to one. Might have to do something. Might have to do something.

That's not going to lie. No, I understand. Shout out Jalen Brown, man. He's been playing great. He has such an up and down narrative throughout his career. Like, he just constantly oscillates from being overrated or underrated, going back and forth. He's been great. That's another one of the things that makes them so terrifying is we talked about who guards Jason Tatum, right?

You land on that. Who the fuck guards Jalen Brown? Like, it's, he has been damn or just as good as of late. I 110% absolutely agree with you guys. and that's why if I had a vote I would absolutely vote for Jalen Brown no matter what in any circumstance. But I have

another question for you guys when it comes to this series. Yeah. This is more than five questions, by the way. We're just rolling. We're liars. We're just yappers. You know what it is. Let's get the 10. It's a better title. Keep going. Keep asking question. Will Jaden Hardy?

Five. Five more. Will Jaden Hardy? continue this random bucket splurrs that he's been on over the last what week or week and a half because if you guys pay attention he absolutely snatched the fuck out of Tim Hardaway Jr.'s minutes and he's became that spot-up shooter, a church area ball handler when needed when Luca or Kyrie are on the bench and he's just been an absolute spark plug in ways that aren't disruptive to the

offense at all. And those are very important minutes. Those are minutes that the Dallas Mavericks have been used to just like completely losing in general. You know? And he's going to play key role. Let's transition this to a bigger question. Let's use that. With knowing how good he's playing

in mind, which team has a better bench advantage do you think? Assuming KP's back and Al Horford's back to six man. The Dallas Mavericks. It's the math, easy. Yeah. Because if you have I'm kind of scared for Al Horford. Okay. Even if he's playing 20 minutes a night, he's going to be in hell for 20 minutes

a night. Like, if he's on the floor at the same time as Luca, Luca is going to target and find him every single time. And there's 24 seconds in the shot clock. Luca will take 20 seconds to make sure Al Horford, you are getting in this action, right? You are going to be right here. and he's going to go at him

and we saw Nemhart have success against Al Horford. We saw a lot of people on Indiana have success against Al Horford in the pick and roll. Luca and Kyrie in the pick and roll against Al Horford, that's food.

So that might nullify a lot of the Al Horford stuff that you are normally relying on. Dallas has it right now in terms of the bench. Yeah, KP's got to play a lot of minutes and like really hold up. The math's play so physical down low.

Like, you know how Cat was in foul trouble all the time? And they have three bigs that throw down there and rotate the center spot. The Mavs have two, and one of them has to be much more important than the other. KP has to stay out of foul trouble, which is a tall task against Luca Dunches at that. I just, I keep thinking as you go through every question, I feel like he's going to be the biggest swing factor because he hides a lot of their issues. Yeah. Peyton Pritchard. once again step up

step up right you're looking at Payton Pritchardt I'm looking at Luke Cornett it is your time to sign this is your legacy I beg Joe Muzula to put Luke Cornett on the court at the same time as Luca Donchitz

I need it O'Shea Brissette stay ready so you don't have to be ready all right Xavier Tillman no one believes in you what are you prepared to do about it Sam Hauser

you look yourself in the mirror every morning you do your affirmation You get your confidence back, please. I wish I could think of another Boston subject's big, but I think we're out. Exactly, exactly, bro. The Dallas Mavericks legitimately can go like, I don't want to say five deep on the bench, but they have so many quality players, whether it be Dante X-M who we haven't seen that much of again, Jaden Hardy, Green, Derek Lively, obviously, and Maxie Kleep is back as well.

That's big. He's a obvious difference maker. gives him another dimension on offense simply because he can shoot the ball just a little bit and we all know how important he is or he has been in the past when it comes to his defense on Dallas and bro like there's my next question my next question is how much can maxi cleba protect daniel gafford because in these past two series gafford did his thing offensively he's been especially in this game he was great in this game they are like minus a thousand but gafford on the court and plus 1,050

with Derek lively on the court. They've been so much better with Lively playing. Their defense was just bleeding for the first four games of the series with Gaffer playing. And that was a big reason why they lost game four, right?

Lively wasn't there. It's kind of ended up being the deciding factor. In the regular season, they were at their best playing Gaffir when he had Maxi Kleeba next to him. And we saw that tonight again.

There was minutes without Lively where those two guys were in the front court. And I loved it. That was, Maxi is not athletic, doesn't shoot that well, doesn't finish that well, but for some reason he makes them so much better. He knows where to be. He's very smart, has great synergy

with Luca, and it's just weirdly incredibly helpful to everything they do. It doesn't make sense on paper, but he's awesome. If he can help protect Daniel Gafford, that's going to make a big difference in their front court. That's so disrespectful. I think he would tell you the same thing.

I think he would tell you the same thing. It's the truth, but just saying like, what is he good at? Like, he doesn't do anything good. He brings the lives up. That's what he does apparently, I guess. I didn't say he doesn't do anything good. He does a lot of things good, inexplicably.

When he's in the court, the offense is better and the defense is better. Don't know why, but he just really, it's his brain. He's really smart and knows where to be. That is the legit truth about it. He knows his place and he's a star in his role, you know? And like we see, I don't know, like his ability to just like, you know, where to be on the court as a shooter is uber valuable, especially considering they don't have anybody that size

who can pull from that depth on the court at the same time, you know? So with his value on the court means a lot and I think he played like nine minutes and nine or whatever he hit three. Starting his role. Exactly. Start his own and he's doing what he do, you know?

Can't be mad at it. That's nine less minutes that Daniel Gaffer had to be out there by himself, getting attacked and picking rolls because he has terminal Jalen Duren syndrome and really struggles in that situation. He can be a big difference. Thank God he's healthy.

That's true. That's true. All right, we got some more. I have another question. It's kind of like an eternal question. Is Drew Holiday going to be Kaisenath, this series? Yeah. Right.

Is Drew Holiday? That's been one of the things that we have repeatedly pointed to Boston as like one of their weaknesses where it's like, oh yeah, you have drew holiday. but that also comes with him shooting 31% from three in the playoffs, sometimes shooting 20-something percent from three in the playoffs. When you get into that swing, swing action and you're finding the ball and you're trying to hide, like if you try to hide Luca or Kyrie on Drew Holiday, you're going to have to make him pay eventually. And, oh, wow, this picture is cursed.

Mo, look up. Hey, actually, I got some context behind this picture. So, what content is he possibly up for this? Trey Young's dad went out and he said on Twitter that Luca and his team specifically said that they did not want to be fucked with or drafted by the Atlanta Hawks at all. Because his, Lucas dad, his people, has close ties with the Dallas Mavericks and whatever is. They've been to his house plenty of times, had dinners with him, and all those other shit. He prayed. He wanted nothing to do with Atlanta.

He fucking grinned with the fact that he had to put on that at. that's the facts so we never had a chance okay and cope call it what you want go to hell and this is a free agency what if he gets picked then what is he gonna do cry he's probably gonna request a straight out bro we got second round picks these days declining workouts bro it's how it's how it works now we're in the new NBA they could have picked him they wanted to what the fuck the shrey young dad know listen man I am not cope cope I am not the guy I'm just the messenger. Cope.

Anyways, Drew Holiday is shooting 60% from the corner this year. That's absurd on 92 attempts. 92 attempts. That's the scariest part is he's been lights out from the corner and you would think that would be when you're looking at the five guys they start, that would be the guy you want to leave open when you inevitably get in a situation where you have to leave somebody open and Jason kid offense. Not really.

I don't feel good about that this year. Yeah, not really. And if he is, if he is doing all that, right? If he's knocking, knocking corner three is down at that clip, then it's over, right? It's actually over if Drew Holiday is shooting 50%, 45% from three in the corner. So you're naming all these are increased still absurd numbers. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.

He's at a crazy level right now that he can still be 15% worse. And it's still an insane amount. So I, for the purpose of my selection, I hope he keeps it up. But we've seen Drew Holiday before struggle in certain playoff series, whether if it's a good matchup or not. Sometimes the shots just don't fall for him. I think that that's going to be a very, very key thing for Drew and for the Celtics. So I'm very curious to see what happens with that.

This is going to be such a great series. You know, I guess my last and final question, this will be the 10th one, I think. Not really, but we're calling it that. Is there a basketball god? And if there is, he's on the side of Luke Goodon. right like surely this is a David versus Goliath situation and I can only assume that if there's anything right in this world and if sports have a deity writing above us they will give us a luka championship right David doesn't always have to win

sometimes Goliath got hands I get it exactly 2017 warriors happen is he's Goliath for a reason you know what I say he'd be winning he's large but I just it'll I don't even hate the Celtics like y'all do, but it'll be so cool if we see Luca have this start to the career and win a ring at 25. That'll surely mean he wins an MVP next year. The narrative side is going to be on, it's going to be on his side. It needs to happen. It just admit, it feels right.

I tweeted like two weeks ago that all logic aside, this feels like a Luca Dungeons final year. And I just need that to be fulfilled. Yep. And on the other side of the coin, too, the Boston Celtics get to set up all their haters, me, me personally, I'm a fake hater. I generally have no vendetta against Dan Brown or Jason Thamele. You liar. You liar. No, I generally don't care. I don't lose sleep.

All right. You don't like Jason Tatum. But you don't have a hater off. It's an atomic bomb. You'll both take Jason Tatum. If this was to happen. I like Tatum. I just, I have high standards for him. That's fair. That's very fair. You find. Exactly. Moe hates Jason Tatum. You have high Sanatim. I don't hate Jason Tatum. He's a cool dude. But if he was to go ahead and win an NBA. championship. This quiets down all the fucking disgusting narratives that's been going around with

them over the last, I don't know, three, four years or whatnot. I remember I tweeted some shit like, oh my God, thank God for me because Jason Tatum was almost the face of my league and it got like 22,000 likes. And then I got a bunch of racist Celtics fans in my DMs just saying the most outlandish things. But if this was to happen, yo kudos to Brad Stevens, Joe Missoula and all that because they fucking deserve it. Yeah, kudos number, Regardless, Brad Stevens is an incredible GM. The fact that he stepped in this role and immediately was like, yeah, I'm just going to make the best team in the league, like, pretty easily.

Like, shout out to him. He's just great at this. No, he had to, he had to coach Marcus far for years. And he's like, get him out of here. I'm so sick of this. On the same note, I feel so happy for the Mavs. Like, just seeing that a team can be in win now mode, lose a person like Jalen Brunson and seemingly be fucked.

Adikai-Reed doesn't work so-and-so. You keep rebuilding. and then make the perfect moves, bringing in lively, bringing in Gaffer, bringing in Washington, and to see that kind of fruition and that work

and see all of the stupid-ass convos around Luca Donchish be dispelled and prove that, like, you can actually win with his style of play. He makes people better, all this stuff. It feels very satisfying to see them actually find success

with this new team. Yeah, I remember. One of my favorite lines of this podcast over the course of the last, like, 15 months is whenever Donovan says, like, the Dallas Mavericks traded for Luca Donchitz

and God, worse. Yeah, Kyrie, my bad. They did get worse. You're right. And it is hilarious. That take, again, and I said this on the street, if I was just a little bit more patient, I could have been right this whole time because I said the day of the trade that they

would be worse this season and that next season, which we are currently in, is going to be the year for them to actually go ahead and do things because then they would have more flexibility to go out and get more assets. and build an actual team around them. I just, listen. Then you saw them lose on purpose. You're like, never mind.

They're going to suffer forever. Exactly. It wasn't working. Listen, they started losing on purpose because it wasn't working before it. But yeah. I'd be the most happiest for someone like Carrie Irving who's obviously gone through the fucking ringer over the last like three, four years.

The whole COVID stuff. What happened in Brooklyn and how that ended up just like fizzling out the Joe Sy stuff and all that other stuff. And then like Stephen. A. Smith over here calling out his name saying, Carrier, we should retire from basketball. Like, he's been through the fucking ringer. For him to finally make the NBA finals again,

has a chance to win it against a team that the Boston Celtics won his jersey back in blood. Like, it's, it's, it's, it's cinema. It's cinema. One thing I said on the stream that you weren't there for, the most annoying thing where I'm just beating myself up over being a fucking moron is when we did our power rankings before the playoffs started, I ranked the Mavs 3

I thought they were the best team in the West I was how the Nuggets and I still picked against them in the conference finals like I was so unbelievably dumb for overthinking that and I'm just gonna kick myself forever for not being able to fully say

I believe in them because I stupidly bought it into the fucking Timberwolves because I had so many Timberwolves making me apologize for doubting them that I was like I guess y'all are right I'm done doubting them because they beat the Nuggets they can beat anybody

and I let it get to me and I didn't stick to my guns of what I thought before the playoffs started and I hate that brother you can't be right about everything it's okay I hate that. Give it up. I hate that. Such a frustrating thing to be wrong about because I never once believed the Timberwolves

until I did and then suddenly they want to fall apart. Like, how annoying. I understand it. It is what it is. Roll the story. Anything I think about the Timberwolves, think the opposite and you'll be right. I mean, I can't go against that logic at that point. It proves to be 100% correct all the time. It's the Timberolds. It's Carl Anthony Towns. You're paying on Carinthetians to be your second best player. It's tough. And with that being said, Mavs and 7 for me, y'all both pick the Celtics.

Nikiel, what are we doing for producer corner? All right, so I figured we have some housekeeping to do over like the past six weeks of producer corner. I want to shout at the fan that made this. Made my whole day that day. I was shocked. I still can't wrap my head around it. For audio listeners, somebody made an Akil fan edit, a fan cam. It's crazy.

I don't know. This is wild. It has like the Kendrick Lamar This on the background as well It says motherfucker the big three And it shows us three It's just big me

And it shows the kill dancing I ain't a line to you You're going to have to put that On your hinge profile right there Yeah It's a bit I've been working I've been working

Multi-city So speaking of multi-city As some of the viewers by no we were in cancun this past weekend we you know we said what's up to lebron for donovan's bachelor party yes some some pictures were posted some things i need to address you're so small you look so tiny people thought this was me you look like your most little child no yeah listen y'all can get it off because i can see it man like this is mo they were calling this diddy kong and donkey kong that's crazy like dumb and dumber bro

that is crazy this is so funny i want to say this the angle doesn't suit me okay because most behind me and so like it shows off like his big ass legs i'm really not that's huge bro three or your legs couldn't equal one of mine it's the size of your torso right now he's getting disrespectful you guys I didn't tell you it's all angles and lighting this was all angles and lighting but this is ridiculous but i will say i really did feel as i felt mo's weight whenever i was driving the at tv because like dude i was struggling to turn like because like he wasn't he pause he wasn't gripping me tight enough and so like a small turn would be like an extra

like whatever moz like weight is at right now like an extra whatever behind me so like a small right It's like 220 pounds just that way And I just didn't realize that It was not looking good You wanted to be snuggled a little harder You need to be spooned Yeah no When I was riding that bitch bro

I felt like I was in fast and furious Need for Speed Toaking it up What the fuck you ever want to call it bro I was in my fucking zone Look at me in that man Speaking of driving Donovan's real quiet

Wait till I tell you what he did more in ATVs No tell them tell them I'll tell them I'll tell them what had happened with was that so so somebody so somebody listen listen listen listen hold on hold up so somebody in front of us had a little like mishap and so i like swerved out the way that was a person who hit us i believe right yeah i think so they have multiple issues right so they get multiple issues but continue again no facts so i tried to get out of the way and so i end up on like the side of the road so then

the people like our tour guides bring us back out on the to the road. Everybody else is just way past us. And so I was like, listen, we have to catch up, right? I was in your ear. I was like, go fast. Exactly, right? Both Isaac and I were like, we have to make this play to go straight down.

I looked down, mind you, mind you, they did not give us any instructions on how to drive this thing. No safety. All they said was gas break. So I looked down, I said, that's the gas. So I pressed the gas as hard as I could. punched it. We went straight. I tried to turn. Couldn't really turn. We cartoonishly ran straight into a tree crashed, right? Luckily, no whiplash, no injuries. It was just straight, like ATV with

that tire, that's the most protection that we had. And it was just tired to tree. And now that tire saved our lives. No, 100%. If that's how it wasn't there, we would be in this bitch with neck braces, bro. I don't even know if he like when he says cartoonishly like it wasn't like we into a tree. He hit the brakes that my arm right here is the tree right this is the tree this is us. We stop. I'm like go fast. He goes straight into the tree like it was just full speed for 20 feet tree like it was crazy. I tried to I tried to break right and I tried to break it wasn't breaking. I hear Isaac in the back like yo slow down slow down. I know that like I tried to turn at the last minute because I'm trying to stay calm.

So I'm just there quiet, right? Because, you know, you can't panic in an emergency or else it's going to get worse. So I'm there just stoic and we hit the tree and then we just listen, we both laughed. I got up. I said I don't I don't feel like driving anymore. And then we switched, right? That's what happened. And the rest of our ATB ride.

He pulled out the way. Is that how the switch happened? No. So yes, it was a little bit. It wasn't as calm. He's making a sound. he hit the tree and like we both like fell forward a little bit of we headbutt we had helmets on so it's fine he jumps up immediately and it's like yo yo yo yo yo he's like no switch go go go go it's like no more

I'm done we both understood in that moment as soon as you hit a tree there's mutual right and maybe listen maybe our heads hit and it was like it's like the iPhone like air drop type thing where you just start thinking the same thing because we instantly were like okay yeah like we just can't have this the range man anymore so i got on i do that i mute that slid up was like yep yep understand i got on there started driving and that shit was smooth i think it might been a skill issue i had no issues at all

and this thing and this thing before also we messed up because we didn't have any mask all of our faces were as dusty as could be i couldn't like all my beard looked gray i couldn't i couldn't see i had sunglasses

on the dust that got in my sunglasses it was so bad Chappelle's kit It was so bad A class Yeah I ain't gonna lie None of us wanted to come up off That fucking crazy $30

Mass that they wanted to go ahead and do And I don't know Because that's a rip off They should have given it to us They were charging us for the mask And for the little like bandana And someone I don't know Honestly it's like they want an accident to heaven

Because you're right Like they said yeah Here's gas Here's break We're gonna have a photographer Have fun I love Mexico No no instructions

Yeah I mean it was home court for Isaac Like no wonder he was driving so long What a brave joke to make General Public I got one more thing If the cameras were off I'd be deeped my bag right now Oh Lord

You can give you a bag right now Oh Lord Where are you going to say Dick Hill One more thing to get off my chest Donovan Mo What is our little group chat called Just three OS It's called

TD3 Accountability oh and it's time i take some you know it's time the three of us take some accountability i'll go first we were in chicago we tried hooping out a lifetime didn't really work out we went to an outdoor court okay i'm just telling the viewers right now i got cooked i don't know i don't know what was going on but like they would switch on to me every time and like we were playing like deloitte workers not like the accountability can be just between us three you don't have to let everybody know it's called accountability You are whoever offense, it's okay, it happens.

Every single one of us throughout our, some time in our lives, we were whoever offense, meaning like, they are picking on us the entire fucking game, every possession that they get, bro. It is what it is. I ain't go lie. Accountability, I fucking threw up, and I was two cans of ass in that fucking game, bro. I threw up mid-game. I never did that before in my entire life. This is my first time hooping in, I don't know, like maybe six months or so.

with other people for real and then also i was coming off of my calf injury and it was just all down bad for me but what makes it even worse that we fucking lost bro it's crazy and and don't even did all right don't did good diamond did all right you sprinkle that in there but yeah everyone's asking for the update on the 2v2 hasn't happened yet but uh you know we might get there i think we got to work on ourselves first work on ourselves at least you like you need therapy it's loading you don't understand the traumatic trust that happened. I'm ready to go.

Listen, I'll fly cross country right now. No, you won't. I'm going to foul you so hard every play. I'm going to foul you right back. I win the war of the nutrition. We'll just be boxing while they fucking hoop. Too much on the shoulders. Your shoulder and shoulder.

You said what? Don's going by you every time. Oh, he's hyping somebody else up. Let's say, you know he has nothing in his bag. No, I just said, Mo, I don't know why you're laughing. Like, Don's bull- Oh, you're talking to me. He's going by me every time.

Listen, give me two, three months, and I'll be straight. I got like a six, four wingspan. I'm straight. You don't have two, three months. I get married in like a month and a half. You better get in the lab. You're carrying. I got a month and a half.

I'll be all right. You'll see me. No, that Achilles is next. All right. That's crazy. And that's the end of the producer corner. Welcome to TikTok time. Crowd eaters, rejoice!

Today, we're gonna start with a little Twitter discourse, a little brain rot, if you will. What we're gonna do is we're gonna rate NBA championships from 1 to 10 based on how impressive they were. Yeah. I don't know what he called this Twitter discourse or brain rot because this is what we like to talk about. This is pure bread ride.

There's a lot of chatter online about, like, so-and-so at a cakewalk to the final, so-and-so was an easy ring, whatever, Mickey Mouse ring, you know, all this bullshit. We're going to play into a little bit, and we're going to try to do a realistic view about, you know, what makes the championship more impressive. Because invalidating championships is dumb, but some are harder than others. That is true. You're actually right about that. All chip championships do not are not weighed the same.

Sometimes you've got to just engage in the brand ride, is what it is. So it's real simple. I'm going to name an NBA championship. You let me know from 1 to 10 how impressive it was. First off, the 2019 Toronto Raptors. Listen, this is one of those ones where it's very impressive. It is not a 10 out of 10, 9 out of 10, maybe even 8 out of 10 ring. This is a cool 7 out of 10.

You know what I'm saying? Shout out Canada, right? Shout out my youths. You know what I'm saying? but nobody cares you guys out there it's just what is what it is people love to invalidate it because the Warriors got injured which I understand but I think that's made up

for the fact that it's their first year together you know Hardee's winning when you just add someone like Kwan to your team for the first time and you just hit the ground running that makes it impressive too yeah I absolutely agree that Philadelphia 76ers series that went into 70 games that quite literally

the fate was determined by a couple bounces on the room by Kauai Leonard. It has to be nine immediately, automatically, just because of that. Now, it can't be a 10 because we all know what happened in the finals, like you guys said. So I'm fine with nine. I'll go 8. Most that team had no experience, no, had never touched the finals before. First year together, at least eight, but we don't have to give a 10 because of injuries.

No, I'm good. Seven. Oh, my God. Samad hates Canada. Samantha's no woes. No woes. I've never had protein. I don't know what that is.

You're not welcome in a six, buddy. Just know that. She's in fun. All right. Next up. The 2011 Dallas Mavericks. 10. Oh, my goodness.

It's the 10 if I never seen a 10 before. Yeah. 100%. Yeah. You want to, the way that people talk about the Celtics run, the complete opposite is what the Dallas Mavericks run was. They went through absolutely. nearly everybody on the way to the championship.

Yeah. They got this commonly referred to as perhaps the most impressive ring of all time. And somehow it's not overhyped. It is a ridiculous run, a ridiculous career-defining season by their star and everybody else involved. Easy 10. Listen, they swept Kobe and the defending Lakers, two-time defending Lakers out of the playoffs. They beat the, who they beat?

They beat the Baby Thunders as well. And be all of them, be LeBron James in six, down to one, didn't lose. again and down to one is tough oh my god bro locking locking lebrano with j jrera and although this roster was like absolutely it was a great roster but it's not like an all time roster at all jason's if dirt can have this wing i said wing if dirk did not have this ring they'd be calling him brotworth bobon he would be ducking so many allegations he's this defined and saved his career. Who's calling him that?

You? You would call him ball with Boba? I've never heard of that before. So they would have been. He would have been called all types of fraud. He would have had his entire career. Eighth grade. Ignored.

That's hilarious. Next one. The 2021 bucks. Listen, this is actually impressive, but nobody thinks it's impressive because it was the year post bubble where everything was just fake basketball. Yeah. But this one meant something This entire league was hurt

Entire league was hurt But I think No this is more impressive for Yannis Than it just for the bucks necessarily That's true Because he went insane This was an incredible version of him On one leg

He was injured playing through it 50 point closeout game 10 out 10 individual performance But I can understand Giving it more like an 8 for the team overall Ah yes This was the year that the Atlanta Hawks Had them hanging by the hinges

I remember this like it was yesterday Yonis is knee hyper-examines like a mug. Tray Young was injured in that series two, and they barely escaped the Mohawk Nile, Danila Gallanoi led hawks. This is a 10 out of 10 run for me. And also on top of that, too,

in the NBA finals, weren't they down 2-0 to the Phoenix? They were. They were. I forgot about that. That is incredibly hard to come back. Reverse sweep the Phoenix Suns. Like I said, Janus,

on one leg had arguably one of the greatest close-out performances of all time and one of the best defensive plays we've ever seen. I think it's like Janice's block on DeAndre Aden and blocked by James. Those are two of the best plays defense. You're convinced me. Let's go nine.

I'm convinced. This is a great ring. It's up there. It's up there. It's up there. Let's call it. It should, listen, it should be a tax, but, you know, I mean, it should be a 10, but, you know, Milwaukee tax. It is, it is really.

Milwaukee tax. I think it's more Phoenix Sun's taxes. Nobody cares about that team and everyone actually they were bums. But that was a good team. I agree. That team, that Phoenix Sun's team, didn't they won like 67 years? games or something like that that year they were truly fantastic they were I don't know if 67 but it was it was high it was real high also Bobby Portis became a champion love that

love that I forgot you're the one Bobby Portis stand on the planet is a little ew you are shout out Bobby Porters you didn't know this about me I love Bobby Porters that's my guy well well doesn't we'll dive deep dive deep into why that is a conversation for another day we'll pay next team we got that's 22 Golden State Warriors I'm sorry. Stop. Stop. It's a 10 out of 10.

Okay, there we go. Oh, my God. I thought you're going to hate. What do you mean? It is, it is Steph Curry and a whole bunch of guys who are past their prime and carrying them to a championship. We got the Steph Curry performance against a Boston Celtics team that had the best defense in the league. They should have won. They had home court advantage.

They had one of the best in-season turnaround we've ever seen. And it didn't matter because Steph Curry said, I'm here. This is my ring. You are not winning this. 10 out of 10. Bro. They had the voodoo magic to get one healthy year of Auto Porter's career. This is a wildly impressive ring. Everything broke right for them. They took great advantage. Steph Curry had won the best individual productions in any finals I've ever seen. Easy 10. Yeah. This ring right here fooled them and it gave all Warriors fan vindication for not trading away. Jonathan Gamingin, Jordan Poole of the world. And yeah, looking at how the things panned out for the Warriors now,

in terms of this mid, this makes the ring look even better, genuinely speaking, bro. Yeah, it's like, thank God they won this one. Are we looking at the last six years of warriors history as an utter disaster? Yeah, not, bro. Also, a ring for Kevin, a ring for Steph Curry means minus one ring for Kevin Durant in legacy talk. So 10 out of 10. So for my personal agenda, right there. Exactly, for my personal agenda, 11 out of 10.

This is that brain rot I was talking about. This is the idas, y'all. And I brought it and look at those tendencies. I do my job Yep These are the These are the brain rotting Bring three brain rot takes an episode

That's your job You have a quota I got you All right next up You'd hate to see my notes out Oh my God The 2014 Spurs

Hmm This is crazy I thought we were gonna hate a lot more This is also kind of 10 out of 10 This is crazy Wait, why is it 10 out of 10? Because they dismantled the heatels in the most embarrassing fashion

I've ever seen an elite team lose. It was like watching the 2017 finals but except we thought that was going to happen and we had no reason to expect the heat to go outside like this. Nobody in the history of the finals has ever lost the series as bad as the Miami Heat did

in terms of, like they literally in terms of point differential the spurs beat them as bad as anybody has ever gotten beat. With zero superstars in their prime Just pure team worship, pure ass weapon. It was ridiculous. And it's the revenge ring too because they lost the year before, came back, got it back.

Nah, this is, this is a leap. Wasn't folks carrying out LeBron James because he had like severe cramps in the building and there are like rumors coming out like, oh, yeah, it's so hot in the Spurs Arena or whatever. Was it this year? I remember what year it was. That was this year. That was game one, I think. It's bad.

You want to talk. Listen, you want to talk legacy and what rings mean for certain players This cemented Danne Green is one of the best Role Players of all time Boo! Ew! I thought you were going to talk about

Kawai Leonard, bro. Ew! These are a sicko. You know, this was a... We're going nine just for that. It should be a 10. It's a 9 for that. Was this the year that Kauai won his

finals MVP as well? It was. Ooh, this is the quiet Kauai Leonard coming out party as well. Facts. All right next team. The 2006 Miami Heat.

Wooee. Okay, now we have to hate. Now we have to hate. Wait. What? Why? Y'all don't remember? Y'all don't remember the gambling scandal?

The refs was literally gambling on this one. Ah. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I love D. Wade. I can't listen. They was literally put in the parlay's in on these free throws. If you go and look at the free throws, it's crazy. I'm not, listen,

I've said that the NBA has rigged stuff before. This had nothing to do with the NBA. This had everything to do with individual pockets. Damn, with the 10-4 hats on today. I respect 06, Dwayne Wade. I'm sorry. Dragging Shaq to another finals. He had all the bragging rights over Kobe for like four years. Still an impressive ring, tin foil hat aside. Individual performances specifically as well, D. Wade cemented himself with this single year alone as the third best shooting guard in NBA history and they'll stay and they'll stay like that for a long time okay we got to at least at least six or seven even with the gambling tax I want to go seven we'll go six okay somebody's got a hate I respect it's too much positivity here next up

we have what year uh the 2017 Golden State Warriors zero they look fake this is crazy I don't know I've never seen this picture before too I know something something about this picture just looks weird but i mean listen nobody cares about 2017 we knew that they were going to win it was a foregone conclusion in terms of impressiveness ho-hum you did what you were supposed to do good job it's like they're grated on a curve like you're so dominant nobody else had a chance i guess we didn't realize that until this year this is the year where we realized no one's being the meantime soon so i guess they get credit for that we knew the the moment kevin durant signed everybody's hot dogs fell off their grills

on the 4th of July people fell to their knees pool parties were over and we just said I'll see you guys next year we knew that they were not losing the chip yeah listen they were one of the best teams

of all time but in terms of impressiveness in their single run I mean then again they only lost one game in the whole run right yeah I mean yeah

and once it against like oh no that was 2018 never mind yeah no they only lost one game listen they did what they're supposed to do but at least they don't It wasn't like they drug their feet to the title. I'm going to give at least a five.

At least a five. You won the championship. So, all right, go ahead. I'll give it a three in terms of impressiveness. Good job, I guess. Yon. Thanks, Kevin. Also, shout out Patrick McCall.

Look at him down there. No, that's a real. No, that's a real goat right there, bro. Three rings in a row. You don't see any time? It looks so different. Kevin Herrera, once he turned like 33, his face looks so different he looks like he's 20 like 23 in this in this photo it's crazy it looks so young yeah

is it the last one do you have one more oh next one the 2004 pistons cool the fact that this is a real ball right here exactly the fact that they didn't have a superstar at all and they just punched their way to a title yeah I'm gonna give them a 10 punch their way into a title oh yeah and they'd be jack and Kobe with reinforcements, although the reinforcements weren't healthy and we're old as hell, that was still shocking Kobe coming off a 3P. Like, that's an impressive team to beat. Yeah, 100% agree, bro.

Ben Wals and the straps that he had all those guys on on top of that. Big Shock Billups, solidifying his career, has to be a 10. You know, I'm going to turn purely for the fact that without them, nasty man might have had a ring, and thank God they'll let us avoid that. Who, we, this is, yeah, this is easily a 10. Nasty man might have a ring. That's a good point. They did justice for society.

Exactly. They saved us. Carmelo should have been on this team, man. Ah, they picked Darko Milichich. This is disgusting. I think that's the last one. Next thing we're going to do. We're going to bring back a segment that we've done several times, but it's been a long time.

I'm going to name two NBA players, and I want you to tell me which one you would rather let date your daughter. Hypothetical in which you're a father. Oh, yeah. Let's get parental. let's go who's a better father me or you donovan who's a better father yeah come come on probably me it's gonna be i love how nobody even pretends i have a chance didn't even include me in the conversation unbelievable we can say that yeah i'm just kidding so real simple which player would you rather let day your daughter

it can be based on how you view them as a person if you want them in your family whatever it may be. First matchup. Jimmy Butler versus Tyrese Maxie. I would never in 10 million years let my daughter show up with someone like Jimmy Butler at my doorstep. Why not? He's a psycho.

He doesn't take shit seriously, bro. Not doing it. I feel like he takes everything seriously. I feel like he takes literally every facet of life seriously. I feel like he takes tying his shoes seriously. Arning his clothes seriously. Jimmy Butler is an NBA player and a coffee business owner. He's a hustler at the bare minimum.

He's going to make sure that she has what she needs. Don't disagree with me like that. I feel like Jimmy Bullitt would be an amazing father. I feel like he's going to breed a star. Wait, father. I. I thought it was date. I thought it was date your daughter.

It is. We get the point. I forgot. We're talking about our kids having kids. That's crazy. eat. I completely forgot how this was going to go. So you're still letting him do it with that thought in mind?

Someone who consistently shows up as a, he wakes up every day, changes his hair into what he's feeling in that moment. He's a psycho. He's going to challenge you at the dinner table. He's going to challenge you when it comes to who can grill a off straight hair and an eyebrow piece and was like,

not in my family. Hell not, bro. That is not. happening he's not stepping foot in my door versus someone like Tyrese maxi also Tyrese maxi is like the most positive happy guy in the world like the most normal dude ever the most normal dude ever and grinds for every single thing position that he has ever gone in the NBA give me some no fact listen if we're if we're being real we do have to pick Tyrese maxi all he does is just hoop and smile that's it

he does two things I've never seen him frown not once exactly if Jimmy Buller has a If Jimmy Buller has a problem with your daughter, bro, any type of argument? The whole world's going to hear about it. He's going to go on interviews, podcasts, fresh and fit type shit, talking about your daughter, then let me know how you feel about that. That's a disgusting allegation. We're not putting fresh and fit in Jimmy Butler's. No, he's the time to do that, bro.

He will hop in those podcasts. No, he's not. This is ridiculous. Nasty allegations. He's that type, bro. I was there for anybody getting fresh and fit allegations. worst you can say about anybody. Tyrese Maxy, congratulations.

You can Dave my daughter. It's got to be maxi. Next up, Josh Hart or Jalen Brunson. I'm going Jalen Brunson. Josh Hart is a weirdo. And he lets us know he's a weirdo. I love him as a basketball player. But if you've seen two minutes of a Josh Hart interview,

that man's a sicko. I'm not doing that. I'm not doing that. I'm not doing that. I'm taking Jalen Brunson. This is a very serious guy, right? Good head on his shoulders, right? Big head on his shoulders at that.

I'm taking Jaylon Brunson. Jaylon Brudson is such a bring home to your parents type of guy. No, for sure. He puts on that suit, changes his voice up. Hello, sir. Like, he's the exact type of guy. You want dating your daughter. Yeah, but like, Josh Hart is so real, though.

Like, anytime he opens his mouth, he spits the realest shit ever. And plus, he's funny as fuck. You want to give his heart? All in the court. You want a comedian or you want a valedictorian? You want a comedian? Do you want a valedictorian? What do you want?

Take Jalen Brunson. You take Jailen Brunson to a family dinner. He's shaking every hand twice. You know what? I get it. I understand Jalen Brunson. He's so elegant. He doesn't say anything too crazy.

I guess I'm a lean Jalen. Wasn't Josh Hart out here talking about some like, how does Breastle taste like or whatever? Exactly. I wasn't going to bring that up because it can get kind of weird

but that's the kind of guy that you're talking about with Josh Hart. I'm taking Jaylor Bracey. I would love to be Josh Hart's friend, not his father-in-law.

I'll say that. Okay. That's fair. I mean Josh Hart at a, at a, I'll leave it there. Next, next, next matchup.

Yonis. versus Zion Williamson. Battle of the freaks. This is what it is. It's a freak off. This is a freaknik for real, dog. I don't like this. She's staying soon.

She might have to say something on this one. Right? Because Janus is in your face about his freak. Right? He, you know, he has the IG videos. He got the bell. That's a little bit too much. I don't need to be seen that on Instagram.

Zion, listen, the quiet freaks are the scary ones. And I don't know about him. I don't know about him. I don't know. He needs to say his ass inside for sure. I agree with you. He's a fan for her. He's a fan for her.

Yannis is like the big smiling emoji when things like that are brought up. Zion is like a smirk emoji. What do you think? Yeah, he's a real devious motherfucker for real. I will 100% lean Janus's way because he's going to be like joky about it. You know, this is the dude who said he tried smoothies for the first time a couple years ago. You know, I'm leaning this. Listen, what does that have anything to do with dating your daughter?

He lets you know all about all of his experiences. He has an actual personality and outside life. He shares everything, bro. What is him getting a strawberry banana smoothie from smoothie king? Have anything to do with dating your daughter? It lets me know that he'll take my daughter out to have a good time anywhere. Good time. Okay.

Okay, that slippery slope. If you keep going this route. We're going with Yonis. Once again, would love to hang out with Zion. Probably hilarious. Do not want to be his father-in-law. Next up. Devin Booker versus Ben Simmons.

I'm not doing Ben Simmons. Ben Simmons can't be in my family. Why not? He can't be in my family. I'm sorry. What do you've seen his career? I can't have that in my family. What does his career have to do with him?

he'll be he's a stay-at-home dad pretty much bro he'll be there to take care of your daughter's kids what do you mean he put that shit on 30 40 million dollars a year you're set bro you don't got to worry about nothing your daughter will never be stressed about cleaning up the house or making food or whatever the hell because ben got he's never on the road he's always at home he's always available that's a reliable dad in the future exactly all ben simmons is worried about is getting clean outfits on on the bench. That's it. That's it. I feel like Devin Booker knows how to work on a car with his whole car garage. I need that. I need that for my daughter. I respect that. You want a handyman over a Gucci model? They both make $50 million. Like, what do you mean?

Listen, these are these are two light skins who have dated Jenner's that have $50 million. That's true. I'll take, I'll take the better one out of, out of, I'll take at least a better player. Listen, one of them might get me final tickets I'll go, I'll go Devin Bougar. Exactly. Y'all tripping, man. No, they're going to be miserable. Next up,

Blake Griffin or Chris Paul. This is very interesting. You want a comedian or you want major pain? I'll take major pain. Yeah, I'll take major pain. It's not a joke, Blake Griffin. All right? Some stuff is serious.

All right. Sometimes you have to sit your kids down and have real conversations. I know Chris Paul can do that. So I'm going to take Chris Paul. It's not a standard. I love the implication that Blake can't do that. He's probably fine. He's all.

I feel like if I'm Chris Paul's father-in-law, he's going to make every single family union competitive. He's going to try to outgrow me, out-checkers me, out-car repair. me, I feel like it's going to be a nightmare. Yeah, Blake Griffin, he'll try to be a part of the family. Routine, ended out, play Uno, wouldn't be too competitive. He'll be there. And also try to crack jokes. I like Blake for sure.

I wouldn't want to do CP. Now, I'm taking Chris Ball. I like to compete. Come on. Listen, one-on-one, Bajie ball. Me and Chris Paul. Let's see what's going down. I don't even know how to play Bajibu.

I don't even, I barely know what it is. Next matchup. Nicole Yokic versus T.J. McConnell. Hmm. Listen, can't, can't go wrong. Can't go wrong here. But. Hey, man.

Yolkich is perfect. I think I'm going to Yolkich. I don't know. Same thing I said with Jailen Brunson. T.J. McConnell is like the bring home to mom type of guy. Not going to lie, Yokch seems like he'll show to my daughter. He'll show to my doorstep with like flip flops in a tank the first day. He can't think of anywhere fancy.

Yeah, exactly. Like, Yokch seems very unprepared, but I think I like the laid backness of his game, for sure. Of his game. Listen, if you look into T.J. McConnell's eyes, you can see the frat boy history behind there. I don't need, I don't need Delta Chi and my family. Give me Yolkish, man. You say the whole accountant. vibe is a ruse he's really crazy as fuck i know i know what you're about t j yeah exactly i agree

he's probably man can shot gun a beer yeah shot gun a beer he's he'll stole coles steve austin a beer two at a time bro not gonna lie keep that man away from my daughter he has some crazy stories okay we'll go yogic next matchup rudie gobert or draymond green I don't like this But I'm gonna go Dremont I'm gonna go Dremont I'm gonna go Dremont

What? How the fuck Hear me out Hear me out With his history Listen He doesn't beat up people On his own team

Right He beats up people On the other team He'll protect her Okay Are you sure I'll take Dremont I'll take Dremont

I'll take Dremont He'll be beat by everybody So That's a good point Dremont will protect Steph Curry With every ounce of his being If he applies

half of that effort to his own family and potential partner. And we need him around. We need him around everywhere we go. I'm taking Dremont. Yeah. Now I understand but Rudy Gober is the defensive player of the year. He has four of them things. Will he not protect

your family in the same light? I believe so. The reach is crazy. And on top of that as well, he's never going to be... My family's not going to be attacking the paint. I don't know about the TPOI. Rudy's not going to do anything out. Now he did go ahead and made some COVID jokes. So hold on. Let me

rethink that real quick. And he did start this shit basically. I got to go Rudy. I can't have Dremont in my family. I can't have him. Listen, Dremont's going to embarrass me some family reunions. I know that. It comes with the whole package. But he's the type of guy everyone says is annoying to play against, but great to have

in your team and your locker room. I need that veteran presence of my family. I can already imagine him starting a huge ass commotion at the 4th of July cookout, bro. because he went ahead and lost in some, like, foosball or whatever it is and starting some commotion with someone on his own team, bro. We've seen these stories before. Also, I've been notified.

Jermond actually did beat a piss on TV. I forgot he beat a brutal pool. Yes, exactly. I forgot he did that. I was okay. I'll still take Jermont. And that's the end of that one. Next thing we're going to do, what do I want to do next?

I want you guys to, I'm going to show you some NBA lineups, you know, point guard through center, full thing. True. And I want you to guess who the NBA player is that played with all of these guys. So you're guessing who the player is by their all-time teammates. All right, let's go. I don't know. It might be easy. I can't tell.

It might be a little hard than you think. We'll see. But real simple, guess the NBA player by these players that they once played with. First off, we got Kyrie Irving, Jimmy Butler, Mikhail Bridges, Kevin. DeRant and Joelle and Bede. Okay. So this crosses. This is interesting.

They're probably, I think I got it off top, off top. Oh, shit. Off top. I think I know this, right? Oh, shit. I think that this guy, this guy has definitely been around because all five of these players have moved around the league throughout several years. But.

Except for Joel. You're right. Yes. But everybody else on multiple teams. I'm going to guess is this Ben Simmons? I'm guessing I'm guessing Ben Simmons because he's played with Kyrie and Kevin on the Nets. He played, he's also played with Mikhail Bridges on the Nets. And then he played with Jimmy Butler and Juelan Bede on the Sixers.

Is this Ben Simmons? He's just a forgettable net player. That's hilarious. Exactly. Isaac? Guys. This is Ben Simmons. First try.

You got it. Off on the right. right foot congratulations had an almighty sneeze there yes wound up for that sneeze i know i felt the coming i'm seeing stars now that was a hard one dizzy from sneeze is crazy next team we got lucca donchitz carrie irving jaylon brown jason tatum and al horford so he was the celtic pretty much and he played with the he played with the he played with the for a little bit, cool. That narrows it down.

Okay. Go ahead. Go ahead. Because I once again think that I know who this is. If you want to roll, I'm going to let you go ahead and steal the ball, bro. Go ahead. Break this shit down for us. You already said, right?

This is a Mavericks player and it's the Celtics player. And one of the most popular one is a guy who doesn't play for either right now. Is this the yapper? Is this Grant Williams? Oh Wait This is Oh

I have another player Wait Not never meant Let me shut the fuck up I lied I was gonna say This is Mr. Chatty Patty Patty himself

This is Mr. Chattie Patty himself This is Grant Williams Yes sir I just see him Just yapping flapping gums away Right now

On that photo Right those gums All right next up Two for two Let's go Steph Curry Kobe Bryant, Kevin Durant, Dremont, Draymond Green, Nicole Yolkich. Ooh, see, immediately I was going to be like, De Anzo Russell.

That's what I thought I first too. But he never played with Nicole Yolkitt sadly. Exactly, exactly. Oh, okay, almost got you. So thinking about the Kobe Bryant era and phase, there's a lot of lakes who cross pass with Curry, Katie, obviously. But who the fuck was a Denver nugget? Hmm.

Hmm. do somebody somebody has to be a nugget a nugget and and a laker right you have to you have to have those two on your on your resume we're thinking about old nuggets i have a shot in the dark oh brain blast could it be nick young it can be this is nicholas young i knew he was a denver nugget for a hot second for like 10 days right season didn't do a damn thing with him but he was there yeah exactly when was that it was that in 21 was that post the post-covid year not even that was 2019 he was out of league by 21 yeah it was the most random never nugget ever yeah the most random yokech team that you could possibly think of i don't know i did by the played 17 minutes together

total i've literally only seen him plus shoot one three and make that bitch that's that's my fondest memory in nick young in a Denver nugs jersey swag champ right next up we got jaden ivy aleck Jeremy Grant Boyan McDonovitch and Kelly Olinick Oh this brother was in the slums Holy shit This is terrible

This is terrible These is all-time teammates So it's obviously The Detroit Pistons And Adberg been fucking everywhere Could be like the Utah jazz Could be

Boyon and Jeremy Graham And Kelly Lake They've all played everywhere Beside and Ivy Yeah could also be They've all played on the pistons Like they as well.

Yeah. It could also be the Tarnar Raptors. Okay, C, maybe. Kelly Olinnic is throwing me off right now. Yeah, he's been around for a little, for some time. It's been around for some time. He has to have played for at least, I'm going to say, at least eight teams. Kelly Olinick?

I'm going to check. It's definitely a fuck ton of teams. He's over five. Easy. No, he's played for the Boston Celtics, Utah Jazz. The heat. Oh, I forget about that. That's what I'm saying.

Raptors for. It has to be at least five. Six teams. Six teams. Yeah. He's played for six teams. He's been around. He was in the Rockets for half a season.

Oh, I forgot about that. Oh, yeah. He was on the Rockets. Damn. Which team? Whose teammates was this? Boyon, Jeremy. Alec Berks it has to be around has to be around when Jeremy Grant was on the roster

I feel like it has to be I mean Jayden Ivy has only been in the league for so long so that that should narrow it down a little bit yeah like if you if you just think about who's been on the Pistons for the last two years yeah that's true someone who's gone doesn't guess is out there come on keep moving can we fucking Kellyan Hayes bro I don't know not killing his yeah listen I'm I'm stuck you gave us all these guys

who have been in basketball hell we might be cooked yeah we might be cooked yeah yeah I'm getting these guesses on this is embarrassing this is Cade Cunningham is the wrong light skin 66 dude

this is the best players he's ever played with he has been in hell for his entire career free him are you serious these are the best players he's played with yes I I beg you to pick

one better player that's missing thing I'm gonna do sure freak free Kade Cunningham holy shit this is absolutely all right next step has been through the trenches Steph Curry Luca Donshish LeBron Kevin Durant Dwight Howard who star studded so this dude has been a maverick a warrior and probably like a a rocket or something. No, because Dwight, I believe. I mean, but Dwight's played,

Dwight's second half of his career where he was in like Charlotte and Washington. He has guys. He for sure was. Luca daunted should be the main focus for sure. Exactly. Because he hasn't been in the leave for a hell of long. This is also six years.

It's kind of a long time. Lucas had a lot of teams at this point. You're right. He has. but what teammates of his, like, has, like, been passed around that so often? All right. So we just got, we have to think about post-2018, who are the guys who have been right next to the stars at every turn? So, DeAndre Jordan is not a fucking name.

He can't be in this because he's never played with Steph Curry or Katie. You guys are getting warm. Okay. Oh, wait, no, never mind. So it can't be. It has to be a big man, though. Maybe. Because, I mean, he said we were getting warm.

I'm thinking about just older players in general. Can't be, yeah, it can't be DeAndre. It can't be no Carmelo, Anthony. I'm thinking about like an old Lakers team, that old Lakers team. Could it be? Nope. Not no damn Danny Green. Oh, tick, tick, tick.

Who the fuck has Luca played with breath? Listen, we started hot and now it's just over. I used all my brain power on the first two. You guys think time's up. This is Javel McGee. Oh, my guy. Oh my God. That hurts.

That hurts. My bad Jailman's the biggest Javille McGee fan I know and you couldn't get it. I'm embarrassed for you. My bad Javelle. This has been a minute since Javelle's been out of the league. I've seen you in Jail McGee, and you couldn't do this. Yeah. I've actually never had a Javell Mugel Muggee jersey.

Don't let him lock. He's tarnishing your legacy with that one, Donovan. Last one, one more left. Steve Kerr, Michael Jordan, Charles Barkley, Sean Kemp, Hakeem Elijah on. Two, do you play with Jordan? Go out with the bays. Get one right. Don't get three Ls in a row.

He played with Jordan, Barclay, and Akeem. And Sean Kemp. Okay, so the first name that comes to mind is Scotty Pippin but I can't remember if he ever played with Sean Kemp but I'm going to I'm going to guess I'm going to guess Scotty Pippen I don't know

you can correct your final answer let's roll with it this is Scottie Pippen he played with Sean Kemp in Portland oh in Portland we're back we're back that's what I forget Sean Kemp played in Portland because Scottie was

Loki around for like a long time yeah he played into like 03 or something he played for a while God damn That's crazy Okay That's the last one You went out with the made shot

You didn't leave the court On a miss I respect it Real Hooper's no Thank you for carrying me Some embarrassing losses In the middle of there But at least you went out

With the bang Dan Next thing we're gonna do Exactly That's not embarrassing I feel good about my phone That was the easiest one I think That was like his team

From like last year Yeah I didn't think you would go there I thought it was like Somebody different next thing we're going to do I am going to say one word and I want you guys

to name the first NBA player that comes to mind so you know just empty your mind and try to just pure stream of consciousness and the first player that pops in your mind let's do it trying to get it though

which NBA player reminds you this word first off underrated hmm Drew all the day every fucking body says that yeah oh yeah you guys

too selfish answers in the world. Yeah. Every, I'm tired. For the last five years, folks have been telling me that Drew Holiday is underrated. At one point in time, will the narrative switch and flip?

If everybody's saying the same exact thing. Please tell me. Years ago, we're way past that. Next up, bad haircut. Alfred Payton. I was going to go ahead and say Jeremy Lynn. Oh, listen.

One of those haircuts is a lot worse than the other. That's true. Which one? It's not Alper Payton. I'll tell you that. Alper Payton had a vision. Jeremy Lynn had a disaster. Alfred Payton's haircut blocked his vision.

That's how bad it was. At least it was creative. Was it? The weekend had the same thing. He was copying. We're cutting in the weekend for that. Next up. Needs to be traded.

quarantine talents what you're a hater i've just listen we said it all year long we got tricked and now i'm kind of back to where i was at the beginning of the year where i'm like yeah like they probably need to just switch up the structure if they lose this series and cat keeps giving them five fouls in the first three quarters i don't know if i could live like that he might have to be gone you're wrong in the end you're wrong because the answer should have been brandy ingram he's more pressing in car nathanie towns why brandon you need to be another team if brand new is in the pelicans next year we need to fire everybody involved with that team yeah although he didn't perform well still not a great fit alongside herb and tray murphy tray murphy tree murphy needs to be

unlocked yep all right next up long jonathan isa jonathan isa what i think about bolbo I mean, Bobo's long. Like, what do you mean? By definition. True. Yeah. I'm going to, I'm going to Isaac. He feels like.

He feels like Inspector Gadget. It's crazy. True. Fact. Both those players are the defining trace length, so I get it. Yeah, it's so unexpected to. For Jonathan, I just specifically. Thick.

Oh. Thick? Big baby Glenn Davis. That's a good pick. Can't get much thicker than that. That is a big man. We'll go easy choice, Zion. Bullie.

It's not, listen, I mean, I'm not saying it in a bad way. Some people would just, you know, born thick. It is what it is. He's got that thickness. The absence of Kyle Lowry speaks volumes. Wow. Next one. Overhyped.

Scoot Henderson and I hate to say it. What? You're giving it up already? The athleticism was overhyped. The athleticism is overhyth. I'm sure he's going to have a fantastic sophomore year. But being in the G-League for that long, having that insane duel with Wemby, like a year and a half, two years ago, just to come out and shoot 38% from the field in your rookie year. Disappointed me, man.

I'm not selling my stock yet. Anthony Edwards. What? I'm only saying. Take his mic away. I'm only saying it. Cut off his Wi-Fi. We were calling him Michael Jordan for three weeks straight.

Let's relax. Who is we? Huh? People. Who's weird? Yeah, I didn't say that. People. You listen to what people say?

I hear what people say. Don't act like, don't act like, don't act like, like they weren't saying it. You know what I'm saying? Who is that? They know. They know. No, I get it. I get it.

genius ron rondo luka luka yeah i feel like he feel like he is 100% unguarded at this point and there is nothing defensively that you could throw at him that he won't figure out after one play of seeing it yeah he's legitimate almost always the most an athletic player on the court at all times and for him to still be just like a walking 30 10 and 11 guy it's ridiculous yeah it's like to imagine if rondo could score 30 points your game was 6 7 pretty super soldier rondo so i'm just like oh my god that'll be nuts lumbin thompson there's just lebron yeah next word crazy ron artis that's a crazy guy

he was he would he survive in today's league no no he'd be the most fine player in the league right now we'd look at draymond and be like yo that's a calm dude they'd be they'd literally going band for band the suspension money shit bro you're right suspension money phones up on their ears oh man that's hilarious it's why that's easy i think i would say i was gonna say draymond Okay. But for a bad, not bad, listen. Easy answer. Sometimes you have to take what the defense gives you.

That's a word where it's right there. I get it. It's a layup. Exactly. Sometimes you're out there doesn't got to be too deep. Last one. Old. I mean, LeBron.

LeBron. I hear every day. He's 39 years old. He's in year 21. He's so old. every single day for like seven months like we get it we get it i don't think you do get it i don't think you understand greatness oh my god i think he'd be reminded some more shut up we hear it all i think you quite comprehend uh when you say when i when you say old i think

of hube brown for some reason like that he's like 95 or something like that and he's still calling out games brother he's doing no no no no no we can't disliked listen there's jokes to be paid. He's an all time, great. No, he is 90, though. He is literally 90, which is insane. Yo, that is real goals. Bro, I pray to God, I have to drive that he drives when it comes to this TikTok podcast and shit. Can you imagine? You have a communication job at 90 is crazy. That's amazing. Listen, as some people would say, I'm glad that he's still in the league. You know what I'm bro after a nap sometimes my mind can't function he's doing this shit at 92 three years old that's crazy it's wild okay next thing we're gonna do that's the end of that we're gonna do you know

staple of t3s old versus new we've done it with jerseys logos players teams everything of the sort we're gonna do an old versus new with different versions of a player so it's like young versus old essentially okay real simple which version of this player was better Old or new. First off, 2007 LeBron James versus 2020. See, the initial instinct is to say 2007 LeBron James, but 2020 LeBron is smarter and still has crazy athleticism. He's still more athletic than like 85% of the league.

So I would take 2020 LeBron over 2007, LeBron. 2020 LeBron is so much more complete, obviously smarter as well, but the game is arguably the most well-rounded it's ever been. Yeah, and he was defending his ass off still that year. Perfect package. I don't know what flawed 2020 LeBron has and you can pinpoint some stuff

with young LeBron that could have been improved. Also, 2020 LeBron? Somehow, the hairline is sharper there than it was in 2007. We're going in 2020. We've got turkey on the side for 2020. We're going on 20-20. Next up.

2015, Steph Curry, or 2020. three step curry this is easy in my opinion not even a question 2022 step curry not even close 22 step curry could take hits could take bumps he can get to the room whenever he wanted he can get a bucket whenever he wanted everything that people wanted him to be in terms of like on ball bad guy in 2015 he was that in 2020 and still shot like step curry exactly he had like 15 pounds of muscle sacrifice a little bit of speed but now he doesn't get hurt you can defend a little bit better can drive for the room a little bit better bounce people off and a little bit better easy 2022 again the most complete version of stuff that we've ever seen

any better celebrations what celebrations night night stop me i like it now i like it now oh my gosh stop i know you which one of you guys let it i think it was actually donovan hated on it back when we no i hate it on it both do you hate it on it and i was like no no i like an anti night night night all day bro that is incredibly lame night night he doesn't do it anymore for a reason it's a time in history i mean he does it's a time capsule he doesn't do it because his team sucks and his team won't let him do it he's not putting nobody to sleep this year you get him another all star it's a lot of lullabies going out i promise you that yeah yeah just wait on it next one 2016 carrie irving versus is 2024.

I'm a lean 2024 because the defense he was a cone back then didn't give two licks about it back then. The defense and the playmaking turns him to a completely different other player. And plus he still has all the shooting attributes and stuff like that. Not as

nice as 2016, obviously. Progress a little bit on that end for this year but I'm leaning 2024, Kyrie. Yeah, he can lock in when he did. He hasn't really lost athleticism. Not a type of player that needs to be super athletic. You know, obviously he's highly skilled we're probably witnessing the best version of him right now i 100% agree this this version of kairi all of these guys are like this this generation of players they just age

like fine wine they are all getting better as they get older and kairi's right there on that on the edge of his prime so it's 100% him yeah last one 2017 kawai leonard versus 2024 kawai Leonard. This is the first one where the young one wins. 2017, Kauai Leonard is a monster, a demon, bro. Two-way ridiculous defense. Offense was damn just as good. He was finally hitting that next level before Zazaa Petulia stepped in and ended that

shit. And now it is Kauai can't play two playoff games in a row. Kauai still is unstoppable in this year. But sadly, like, bro, that 2017 year, year Kauai Leonard was a whole new monster. Bro. Listen, he was DPOY. He was averaging 25.

He, he cared so little about his appearance. You see his braids. You see how dusty they were. He was all about basketball. That version of Kwai Leonard is different. Facts,

that was a new bounce commercial. He went Hollywood. It's not the same. Not the same guy. This man is letting Cameron Brink, making him giggle. Nah, he was locked in before. No.

2017 kawai would have been straight-faced no matter what she said or he was living in san antonio all you can do if you're in san antonio is focus on your craft and be the best player alive there's not shit to do besides go to the river walk i want to see it once you're good i heard the chores are good over there though how you eat him you can't get me that's the end of that what we got left you go one more video before we get out of here No, we're going to do something that we did a long time ago that I forgot to bring back at any point. We're going to make NBA stars by combining two NBA role players. So for the show, sorry, I told you guys to write down some combinations.

We're going to take turns, go one by one. We're going to make combinations of role players that we think can turn into stars. Let's go. I'll go first. First one I got, give me James Wiseman and T.J. McConnell. That is the most disgusting pairing I've ever seen in my life, bro. Oh, yeah, this is about to get sick. Please explain.

You put the mind of T.J. McConnell, the dog of T.J. McConnell into James Wiseman's body with that frame, he's going to be unstoppable. All he needs is dog, and he's going to be a productive player. Okay. I did the exact. I mean, T.J. McConnell is a little golden retriever. He's barking. That's true. I like that. I took T.J. McConnell and mixed him in with Derek Jones. Junior, if you gave him the ability to fly that fucking high, be that type of functional

athlete, and already have the insane, nasty, mid-range game, this is just a hyper-expulsive version of Chris Middleton. I think you just made George Gervin. Did I? Holy shit. This is in all favor. Okay. Well, you put T.J. McConnell's mind into anybody athletic, and it's going to be a goon.

Oh, God. Let's see that. Okay. Here's one I got for y'all. Give me Cam Thomas in Mitchell Robinson's body. Oh my God. This is a 2K player, right? This is a demi guy.

This is all of those things. This is a seven-footer who could play defense and has a crazy bag with the most irrational confidence you've ever seen in your life. You know what this is? This is Joelle Embed. This is the MVP of the league. Quite literally.

I did it. I did it. I made a star. that's my next one bowl bowl and Josh Hart bowl bowl yo if you gave

same thing just even 5% of the heart that Josh Hart has he's a Hall of Fame conversations exactly give him that motor have him run up another court for 48 minutes

with reckless abandoned for his body I can't imagine the havoc that he could wreck with that link I like that now listen we've been going for stars

but let's touch grass real quick. Touch reality real quick for a second. All right. I got Killian Hayes and Peyton Pritchard. That is a fantastic role player if you ask me.

Kelly and Hayes. Okay. Great passer, of course, can rebound a little bit. You can do everything but put the ball in a basket. But Payton Pritchard, if you know him, he's all about his buckets. That's it. All you're telling me is

you are explaining Peyton Pritchard but in proams during the summer. That's it, fact, right? Payne Pritchie could go out. He scored 90 in the game in the pro amps. That's what you're talking about, mixing him with Killian Hayes. I think you just made DeAngel Russell maybe. You just made like the 18th best starting point guard in the league.

Ew! That's a value blasted if you ask me. It's better than we get right now to those two guys. All right. Here's one. Here's one. So I have, give me Jalen Suggs mixed with Norman Powell. Okay.

Oh, that's a, bro, that's literally just Donovan Mitchell. Oh, with clamps. Exactly. Exactly. If you give, if you, listen, look at Norman Powers per 37. That's Derek White. That's Derek White. I don't know. Listen, if you play him for 36 minutes, he could be Donovan Mitchell. He could do that. Potential borderline all-star. That's what that is. That's what that is for sure.

I have someone else who's more like Derek. Eric White for you, Isaac. Josh Hart and Austin Reeves. Do for your own both ends. Josh Hart and Austin Reeves. You just bet Austin Reeves worse. What? No.

He's a complete player. No, I said, Jocston, what did I just say? Justin Rees. Jouston. No, if Austin Rees to grab rebounds like that and have that much harder,

I can see that. Larry Bird. Facts. Next one. A little interesting one. Kyle Anderson and Jaden Ivy. What a slow-mo. What a slow-mo?

Wasn't that slow-n-mo? Boo. He's just ass at that point. What if he spread him up a little bit? Then what? What happens? That's his whole shit. That's what makes him special.

His ability to process everything slow. And I swear he's gotten slow. I swear he's gotten slower every year he's been in the league. Even in his athletic prime, I feel like he was the slowest player we've ever seen. By choice, it's no. It's not bad. It's not bad. All right.

I'm going to cheat a little bit on one. Okay. Give me, give me Davian Mitchell and Grayson Allen's shooting, but also throw a Ricky Rubio passing. Oh, now you're just making a guy. You're the best small gardener. You're having too much fun right now. You're literally having too much fun. Listen, you have to do, listen, we're talking about making stars.

You had to, you had to get a lot, right, to get there with Davey on Mitchell as the base. But that's what I'm going with. Biblical greed. Facts. I'm dead, bro. Last one I got, hear me out. I just want to know what happened. Tobias Harris and DeAndre Hunter.

If we combine enough mid, something good has to be. to come from it. You know how? Mid pro max. Congratulations. We're mid-maxing. You know how when you multiply one by one, you get one? That's what this is.

Damn. That's what this is. Mid-squared. It's just mid? Yeah. Damn. Hmm. I tried.

I got some that's legit. Tyler Hero combined with Jaden McDaniels. Can you imagine if J.M. McDaniels had Tyler Hero's offensive hungriness at that point we got Coah Leonard Holy shit that's just literally Coi Leonard that's hilarious

yeah put some muscle on this frame I mean at the minimum it's McHale Bridges oh shit you're right that's crazy I like that send me to friends getting bulking for a couple months

that's that's Kauai coming up quite literally I like that all right last last one combined Kaysen Wallace and Andrew Wiggins

Hmm Who's mine Case and Wallace I'm in Exactly That's all you had to do All I need Andrew Wiggins

I need your athleticism Everything else can be Case and Wallace And we have a star on our hands I'm in We just got Clyde Drexler I'm in Exactly

I like it I like it that's a dog for sure 6-9 bouncy Kays and Wallace Oh my goodness I like it I like that is it's also the end of the episode don't know that people are here what should they

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