The Deep 3 Podcast - 15 Bold NBA Predictions For The Rest Of The Season | TD3 Live

Episode Date: February 27, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Watch that go live That'd be hilarious We are live Someone said late again They literally gave us two seconds God damn Calm down No they just didn't give us a chance man
Starting point is 00:00:10 Can't do shit right They have no faith in us bro I just want to hate They just want to hate We're here though We're back We missed a week You know
Starting point is 00:00:20 We're at NBA Allstar weekend We could have streamed the Monday But we all got back into town You know Donovan was sleepy You know his old man's style He needs to get a beauty rest game a week off don't act like it was just me
Starting point is 00:00:32 don't like it was just me because I had the earliest flight and I I had the earliest flight first of we got on the plane at the same time come on we were at the airport we rode to the airport together
Starting point is 00:00:46 at 6 o'clock in the morning anyways right but I got back before you did so I was able to take a nap before everybody else everybody else had a full day to travel it was tough but we're back
Starting point is 00:00:58 we are back I'm seeing people spam. Donnie Smoot can't shoot. We'd like to answer these allegations, Don't? Let's talk about this real quick. I need y'all to understand because there's two things that happened on at two things that happened to our officer weekend. One, Moe officially became an op, right? Multiple times he posted content trying to embarrass me, tried to diminish my legacy.
Starting point is 00:01:20 And I don't appreciate that. Understand what was going on here. First of all, two seconds after this started, snow, right in my second. face understand the conditions that i was that i was shooting it right i'm an inside shooter i've never been good i've never been great outside that's one two mo also posted a video of me sleeping during the all-star game son please don't ever i must intervene i must intervene now donovan i fear brother you were taking that one personally that of course i am play everyone that of course our weekend as a whole was stupid
Starting point is 00:01:59 crash you were sleeping through that bitch Isaac wasn't dozing off but he was on his goddamn iPhone just looking at Twitter bro on a consistent basis I was the only one actually tuned in and I felt ashamed that I was tuned in because of that bro yeah the all-star game was not fun this Donovan shooting this shot right here that we keep showing on screen the most exhilarating shot
Starting point is 00:02:19 at the weekend for me personally counting three point contest counting the dunk contest count on the all-star game counting the rising stars game counting on the celebrity game this was the highlight of my basketball weekend yeah highlight basketball life probably bro because the next time people have been asking for it for a long time and i i promised the goodness the next time we all get together we're playing one-on-one we're playing 21 i got trained i will never and i will never play harder than then i will on that game
Starting point is 00:02:45 okay let's let's do this let's do this loser shaves their beard i'm not shaved my beard i'm not shaved my beer i'm not shaving my beard in any circumstances i can't i can't i can't do that i shaved my beard and went like full balled about like a year and a half ago when I tell you I had a like Richard Jefferson type balled like nothing on my head I had a I had a I was like right I was looking in the mirror like who is this person I was not in a good place mentally I'm not doing that again you know what else is not making me not in a good place mentally the goddamn eaters I thought they were supposed to be in the chat it says like there's like 300 of them 318 but why do I only see 62 likes right now that is abysmal
Starting point is 00:03:26 This is supposed to be a momentous stream. I'm very monumental stream to me in TD3 history. You know why? Where am I at? Oh, my goodness. I'm going to, guys, I'm proud to say it, but we finally did it. You watching a camera right now, got me out the hood. I am no longer there.
Starting point is 00:03:46 Yeah. Instead, I am four hours away from the hood. Look at me. This is a new studio. Boxes behind you. Yeah, I'm lost it behind me. Now, I may look like it, but I'm not still. That's it, man.
Starting point is 00:04:01 Y'all donated, last stream, y'all donated, like $500. It was crazy. You all running it up. We got like $150 dollar donation, followed by a $200 donation. We directly gave that money to Mr. Mojo, 99, got him out the hood, move them across the country. We're here. Yeah. And, listen, man, just because I'm here now doesn't mean that the quest and the grind to stay out of the hood just falls off, bro.
Starting point is 00:04:24 That's the new grind. Keep me out of the hood. Or else I'll go back in that bit, swear to God. When it's crazy these days. Shout out to Kevin Gallickey. He just donated $10. He's to tomorrow night with my 10th Celtics game I've gone to this season. So in spirit, my hot take is Jalen Brown as the best-looking NBA player.
Starting point is 00:04:42 All right, man. That's you, but that $10 is going straight to Mo's fun to stay out of the hood. Woo! Jalen Brown, shout out to you. Looking handsome and shit. You kind of look like Jaylen Brown with all the beard. No, that is crazy. Racism.
Starting point is 00:04:56 like strikes again so chat as you guys see by the stream title we're going to be giving each of us who can get five bold predictions for the rest of the season before we get to that
Starting point is 00:05:08 obviously we got a bunch of news stories to talk about especially because you took a week off of the stream let me know in the chat right now what y'all want to see us talk about I'm gonna read it while we go through our links let me know what you want to see us talk about today
Starting point is 00:05:16 yep Don where should we start listen people have been saying this they're saying it right now people have been saying it before the stream started we need to talk about
Starting point is 00:05:28 what the Los Angeles Clippers did today because that is easily the biggest news of the day and the fact that we especially for us especially for us
Starting point is 00:05:37 we were getting tags all over Twitter I'm sure y'all got it on your personal as well we got it all over the T3 official Twitter people were like what you think
Starting point is 00:05:45 what you think what you think Donovan they've been waiting for this fucking moment y'all I saw this come out and I felt so much immense pressure
Starting point is 00:05:52 as the go-to podcast on the internet for NBA branding NBA jerseys, NBA logos. We have several shorts and TikToks with like 5 million views of pop talking about NBA logos. We are the preemitive logo
Starting point is 00:06:03 opinioners on the internet about the NBA and somehow became the preeminent Clippers' Hater podcast because of yours truly Donovan's moot. So this is our time to shine we had to have an opinion on this. Donovan, I'm a lady the red carpeter for you
Starting point is 00:06:16 as the Clippers Hater. How do you feel about this rebrand? Y'all ready? I'm very ready. I think I might have to retire Clippers hate What? I think I might have to do it Turn off his mic now!
Starting point is 00:06:34 I rock with this rebuild Or with this rebrand a lot I really, really do I think that these jerseys are fire I think the red one is so clean Right, the red and the white ones are fire I think that for them moving into a new arena and finally getting some new jerseys
Starting point is 00:06:57 it feels a little bit they moved into a modern way kept the old script which I was talking about last time that I liked the new logo is not just a basketball with the big C it actually has a little bit of personality in it this is if we were grading the rebrand I'm giving this an A and I'm very proud of the Los Angeles Clippers for what they did today
Starting point is 00:07:20 and for what they are doing for their next era of basketball and they should be proud of how they represented themselves before the league today. Wow. Mo, where do you stand? This shit is ass.
Starting point is 00:07:34 What the hell, man? Oh my goodness. I understand where you're coming from, but that shit is fucking trash. It looked like if I see this logo, at first I didn't know it was a fucking cruise ship. I saw that logo and I thought it was like... It's not a cruise ship.
Starting point is 00:07:47 That's a funny part, but it looks like it is. Bro. I thought it was a cruise ship It looks like the back of a It's a battle ship It looks like the back of a official U.S. currency Bro, it looks like a dime or something shit to me Like it looks like
Starting point is 00:08:00 Ew, I don't know what to think But I think like this is just federal as hell It doesn't make any sense I see everyone giving them hype It's because they're coming from a standpoint Of having the worst most uninteresting branding the league So it's like wow, they finally did something It's great
Starting point is 00:08:13 It's so unimaginative There's an actual boat Instead of just L.A. in the sea It looked corporate as fuck before like it was like a shitty startup that was talking about like we're making AI for like teachers to fucking sharpen pencils or something it was ridiculous but now great example yeah this clips the font looks good the jerseys look good especially the white one the white one is tough I don't like the blue and the red necessarily but at least these middle ones left jersey are good simplistic nothing wrong with them but this fucking logo there is so much going on in this logo we have the sea the cruise ship which it's a it's a it's a supposed to be a battleship it's a crew ship with half a basketball and i thought this was a target like this fucking like they're about to shoot down this thing yeah like a sniper but it's a compass it's it's all right it's interesting more so than we had before maybe it'll grow on me i like that
Starting point is 00:09:04 the trying something it's kind of muddy while also being plain like the one two color thing is like it's just muddy in a way let me tell you something one the compass and and the That's a compass? Yeah. I thought they were going to be, I thought it was a predator to miss those strike. I know. Listen, now that double entendre, right? That's just good design.
Starting point is 00:09:24 You know what I'm saying? Two birds, two birds, one stone. That's, there's that. Also, they are no longer disrespecting the Mexicans like they have been for the last couple years. All of their city jerseys. You may assuade me. All of their city jerseys have been straight out of GTA trying to disrespect the Mexicans on some go local stuff. No, they find me.
Starting point is 00:09:46 Exactly. It's like why you're trying to make this song. Please relax. Please don't ever do this again. They still might do it because this is in the city of Jersey. They still might be going back to that. Oh, dang. As of right now, no Mexicans have been disrespected.
Starting point is 00:10:01 So it's an egg. So it's okay. It's fine. I just think that I saw another version of this where instead of red, white, and blue, they used white, the like, baby blue sky. blue and orange as like a throwback to the San Diego one. I think that one would have been like an A plus plus. That would have been very cool.
Starting point is 00:10:19 The colors would have been a little bit more interesting. But for moving into, and I guess we are grading on a curve, but for moving into a new era and considering what they had before, I do think that this is a plus. And I commend them for trying and in an era where a lot of people are going very minimal. If they came out and they did what the Utah Jazz did last year, we would have laughed at them. This is pretty minimal
Starting point is 00:10:44 It's not what the jazz did though It's yeah well the jazz is the benchmark for like the worst rebrand ever So like I congrats on not being atrocious And that could have happened But they didn't do it Yeah I think it's cool It's better But it's still mid
Starting point is 00:10:59 So credit for no longer being one of the worst brands in the league But I'll be shocked if this logo is still around like seven years from now I think this is like a baby This is a stepping stone logo to get back to the ship And eventually they'll realize it's still kind of eh And they'll find a better version which I look forward to that's fine we just need progress that's all we got it we got it that's what we need is progress I can agree this is much better this is good typically I just
Starting point is 00:11:24 hate and I feel like red white and blue oh what's not on the side is so limiting but they got like these squares in the side I don't know something nautical I don't know what it means what they did they're in their back I like the red one a lot I really do like the white one I like I hate the red one the white one's great the blue one solid I just hate it that the red one has blue text i just i never like color on color like that that means a little more white yeah it doesn't pop as well at all but i get i mean you're mixing it up they're not going to do the basic thing and just have always have the white letters i get it yeah this is decent though the rebrand the rebrand is good for everybody in the chat saying if i'm retiring the clipper state relax i'm
Starting point is 00:12:03 not i'm not going to do that i'm still actively praying on their downfall i hope that they didn't win the championship listen i'm i'm going to say to my to my values and to my morals but i have to give credit what credit is due. And they got this on. They got it on. So I like this. Yeah. Listen, it's a small dub for now. We'll see. They're in good standings, but they're not completely out of the water. Let's talk about somebody who is completely in the water and who has been in the topic of much discourse lately, Doc Rivers. As you guys know, we talked about on the pod last week. J.J. Reddick went on a very, you know, widely covered rant about how Doc Rivers has ducked accountability at every stage of his career and is king of making
Starting point is 00:12:43 excuses in the most media trained way possible to get the public opinion on his side and make people think he is still the elite coach that won a championship in 2008. He once again did it. He keeps getting bikes in front of him over the last two weeks and he said this where he said maybe they were better. Talking about playing the Celtics last year when he was the coach for the 76ers. He said maybe they were better. I thought game six was our game. I didn't think Joel got the ball enough. Trust me, it was for him to get it and he didn't get it. I don't know how healthy he was. Now he is throwing seemingly James Hardner something under the bus
Starting point is 00:13:12 for not getting Joel and beat the ball enough. You know, the snowball of Doc Rivers keeps going. How do you feel? You're the head coach. What do you mean that you don't know how healthier players are? He's in front of you. You see him run every day in practice. He's doing nothing about adding fuel to the fire
Starting point is 00:13:27 and now just like a running Doc River's meme. And bro, like I personally like never held on and like assumed who he was as a coach and like yeah just completely rid him off like yeah like the 3-1 leads most blown in ever in history like it is a really bad look but at the same time i think that has also a lot of luck factored into that as well but in terms of just like how he is or seems like how he seems like as a coach just constantly deflecting and being like some dismissive of anything and shit like that it's just like ah it's not looking good and jj already may even up to something bro
Starting point is 00:14:05 real quick Donovan think about your thoughts I got some donations to read out for I forget shout out to Louis King his tip ten dollars Do you think the rat followed mojo Mo is that rat with you I ain't a lie Look I have
Starting point is 00:14:18 This space right here is not humongous So if I got four boxes Or is it four it four it's one two three four Four fucking boxes up there If a rat runs loose in this bitch On God the stream is getting torn down I'm not I'm trapped in this bitch
Starting point is 00:14:33 I'm in literally hell I would literally just have to I don't know what I have to do myself bro but it would be over yeah no if it haven't bro I'll be over shout out to Elena
Starting point is 00:14:44 tip $5 you know she's a stream OG someone checked Don's temperature because he's clearly not okay this is cheeks I guess she's talking about the clippers logo I guess so
Starting point is 00:14:52 I guess so it's all right and best shout out to Kevin DeLickey donate another $5 Kevin said you three sum up all three parts of our basketball minds
Starting point is 00:15:01 Isaac is a stats and numbers guy Mo is the guy who can see past any fan bias. Nice. And Donovan is how we all feel about our favorite team. Don's extremely passionate. I'm extremely numbers. And Mo just has x-ray vision through bullshit, I guess. But I'm throwing a lot of bullshit, too.
Starting point is 00:15:22 That's what we try to do. So we are accomplishing. Shout to Louis King, donate another $1. He says, congrats on success. I donated a little bit ago. You didn't see it. There you go. I just got to it.
Starting point is 00:15:31 Appreciate you, man. All right, Donaldman, how do you feel about Doc Rivers? Tell me about this man. I think that it's easy or easier to win a championship when you have four Hall of Famers on your team and now that you only have two, it's going to be hard to do that. How long, a question for you guys,
Starting point is 00:15:47 how long after a coach wins a championship do you say, all right, like that championship was in the past? I mean, 10 years, like, comfortably, it's been 16 for his ass, but like, if it's 10 years and you haven't found any success, I'm not going to be holding on to that too hard. So, like, if he won the championship five years ago, would you look at him and be like, oh, yeah, Doc lost it?
Starting point is 00:16:10 Like, he's done. Is five years enough? I mean, I wouldn't necessarily say just because they won a championship in the recent years is, like, they automatically keep that credit. Obviously, you've got to, like, continue to do well. But, like, Nick Nershwant five years ago, I still respect him, you know what I mean? Yeah, it hasn't, the championship of lore hasn't worn off for him.
Starting point is 00:16:27 So I guess five years is a good timetable. Okay. I would say so, too. I'll take you Yeah, all right, cool. Yeah, I think Doc has been, Doc and that O-A team have been, everybody outside of Kevin Garnett
Starting point is 00:16:42 has been able to expand their careers past where it probably should have been because of that championship and more power to them, right? If you can take one singular moment of your life, which is obviously probably the biggest moment of your life and stretch it out for a decade and a half, Get your money
Starting point is 00:17:03 Get your money Oh, we got a big donation We got a big donation again Shout out to Trutang Clan Has tipped $50 So I've been watching from the start And had to show some love finally You guys rock, keep it up
Starting point is 00:17:14 Also a 1v1 game to 11 Kyrie versus Alan Iverson who you got First off, appreciate you Appreciate the donation Keep watching Again, we appreciate you Kyrie versus AI I'm going Kyrie
Starting point is 00:17:25 Whoever gets the ball first wins That's the right answer Probably to be honest with you Nobody stopping Who has a better chance to stop in someone, though? Kyrie. That might be Kyrie to me. I think he's a little bigger.
Starting point is 00:17:38 How many dribbles? How many dribbles? It doesn't matter. I don't think it doesn't matter. Let's assume it's a three dribble thing. Kyrie. Yeah, I think Kyrie. But I mean, Alan Irishman has great hands,
Starting point is 00:17:51 so maybe that'll come into the play on the defensive side. I don't know, but I link it. Well, the donations are flying through. We've got to address these. Good grief. Shout out to NADOC, tipping $3. He said, 7th NBA Finals.
Starting point is 00:18:02 What is y'all starting five? This is a bit too long. Sorry, I can't get to all that. But appreciate you Nate off for the $3. M-tipped $1. Who was the better logo? Columbus Clippers to L.A. Clippers? One of the Columbus Clippers.
Starting point is 00:18:12 Columbus Clippers. Who are they? Oh, is that the JD team? No way. I don't know what that is. Oh, my gosh. The Columbus Clippers are a minor league baseball team triple A, the Cleveland Guardians.
Starting point is 00:18:25 Okay. All right, let me see this. They're being compared to them, boys. Columbus Clippers. Oh, this is a terrible logo. Let's pull this up for sure. chat is this logo better than the clippers this is some goofy bullshit right here that's all minor league baseball is some of the most unsurious
Starting point is 00:18:40 oh that is disgusting sports of all time my middle school logo look better than that shit to be honest yeah that's trash that's because every middle school in america steals a logo from a professional team fact and shout out to nathan for tipping one dollar he said the miami here are winning it all this year and we're clapping the nix in the process much love though Wow No look Gritzy
Starting point is 00:19:03 No look Big old sneeze What's you sir Next talk and point to talk about What we're on the news Before we get to the predictions Jason Tatum
Starting point is 00:19:14 And his teammates And everybody who can touch a mic The past week Are trying to brute force This motherfucker's way Into the MVP conversation Dremont Green Has been up on a mic
Starting point is 00:19:22 saying you lately Jaylon Brown Every time he touches the mic For all show weekend They're all like Oh y'all don't respect winning now How the what was to say
Starting point is 00:19:29 The goal point Post keeps moving when it comes to him. Why isn't he in the conversation? The best team player in the best team is always in it. Trying to fucking mental gymnastics their way into it, just like Perk did for Joelle and B last year. Except then, Joelle and B was averaging 33 and being incredible. And right now, Jason Tatum is like the fifth best player in the league.
Starting point is 00:19:46 It's honestly embarrassing. How do you all feel about this media push? I understand. If I'm a Celtics fan or if I'm a Jason Tatum truther, you have to feel left out because Tatum has done no wrong. Now listen, just hear me out for like 30 more seconds and then I'm straight aiding okay Tatum has done no wrong okay he's his numbers are down obviously a little bit but
Starting point is 00:20:08 considering the talent that he has on his team and how he's been facilitating a little bit more and you know what I'm saying been a little bit more efficient compared to last year he's had a good year people are over here putting kawai in front of him in terms of MVP list and shit like that and he's by far in a way though he has the best team in the NBA leading him and all that and we've seen so many players in the past maybe not the past five years, but in the past in general, be frontrunners of MVP. Now, since then, things have changed.
Starting point is 00:20:38 Yeah. Oh, okay, you said Tatum has done no wrong. I agree. Teamm has done nothing wrong. Nobody's saying Tatum, put him first team all NBA. He's Tatum. That doesn't make him the fucking MVP. I understand that his numbers are down because he has a good team,
Starting point is 00:20:50 because he's that asked to do that scoring rule. Great. That's a reason to not say he's worse now. Doesn't make him the fucking MVP. Was Devin Booker of the MVP in 2021 when his team was a one seat? He was averaging 27, 5, and 5? No, it was clearly I think Nicole Yokish won that year
Starting point is 00:21:04 Because individually, way better More valuable There's obviously more than this to go into it Best player, best team hasn't been The just like stamp it was Two decades ago In quite a long time Other years when it has been that
Starting point is 00:21:16 It's because they were also individually Just as impressive as everybody else Tatum is obviously just not on that level this season In terms of production and no What he's asked to do The GoPost also hasn't moved Right? Like we've seen throughout NBA history
Starting point is 00:21:29 that when your team is really, really good, you are not going to get the respect like that. When your team is as top heavy as the Boston Celtics are, you are not going to get that type of respect. If you go back when the Warriors were the Warriors, the highest that anybody got for MVP voting, Steph Curry was fifth, the final year of the Kevin Durant era in MVP voting.
Starting point is 00:21:53 And that was the year, if I'm not mistaken, that KD had missed a bunch of time and they kind of went back to this like to like the old warrior setup but whenever those two guys were on the floor together step kerry was six kevin direct they were top 10 they were all that and that's exactly what jason tatem is going to be we can put him six but they have the best top six in the league they have the best record in the league by a wide margin and as soon as you put porzingis and drew holiday and other all-star caliber players no i'm i'm just not going to they were talking about derrick white being in all-star exactly so these fans can't be like our fifth best players in all
Starting point is 00:22:28 and then be like we're not a super team give tatum more love like you can't have it both ways we all recognize that your team is incredibly deep that's why we're also recognizing that jason tatum isn't asked to carry the burden that other stars are this year exactly your sixth man can't be an all-star and you get an MVP it just doesn't work that way but congratulations now you have a great chance to win an NBA finals so let's do all the leadership talk that everybody always wants to do what are you more concerned about the MVP or the championship go get the championship and I promise you everything would be fine and anybody just crying about the MVP is so annoying to the chair on top to all that he's just simply not better than the other guys
Starting point is 00:23:03 that are just ahead of him he's not i keep i've been saying this since like i don't know september he's not better better than she at all bro on the court off the court whatever the fuck you want to talk about he's just not better okay um shay luca of course then there's yelkitch joan and b whenever whenever he was healthy i thought i could stretch it stretch it's a little bit but i'll leave it at that he's just simply not better yeah i mean i think he's just as good as Shea in terms of actually being the good player. Like you said, Jason Thames asked to do less this year. That's why Shea's having a more impressive season.
Starting point is 00:23:34 Shea's clearly the better MVP candidate. It's not having a conversation. You know, on Twitter, people like to do as Basel reference side by sides, which are very lazy and whatever. But when you do that with Shay and Jason Tatum, everything goes to Shea. Like literally everything, it's hilarious. He's a better player, man. I'll argue his actual death.
Starting point is 00:23:50 Shout to Kevin Gallickey for another $10. He said, as a man who lives in Boston, I had my fears about the Celtics blowing it this year until I saw the actual DPOI, Luke Kidney, hidden the dab on the bulls. I don't know what the hell. He's talking about a... Cornynard. Cornet, yeah. Cornett.
Starting point is 00:24:04 There you go. I said canard, bro. Wrong Luke. Nadak, tips about the $1. Is Luca having the most underrated MVP season ever? Could you read the last one later? Is Luca having the most underrated MVP season ever? In terms of individual production, it's pretty crazy that 34-9-9-9-9 isn't MVP runaway, but, you know,
Starting point is 00:24:23 it's the modern NBA, a lot of qualified players. I mean, there's, there's some stuff in the 80s, though, that was, like, if you go back, there's, I think, like, the 85 or 86, like MVP race, there was also people averaging, like 37. There's been very, very competitive ones. Yeah. So we do have to go back. James Harden averaged 36 and didn't win. Wait, what, was that 2018 or, was that 2018, right? 19.
Starting point is 00:24:48 He won an 18. Oh, God, that's crazy as hell, man. Yeah, it was Yonis' first one. Yeah, it'd be like that. And plus, Lucas, sadly. like even though the mavericks have been rolling they're the eighth seat still and that's just like
Starting point is 00:25:00 or you're in the West, sorry yeah that's tough yeah man Jason Tatum's not the fucking MVP he's great first team all NBA give it to him the Celtics will probably looking like they're going a good chance to win the finals
Starting point is 00:25:08 we don't got to force the MVP conversation just to continue to give them props to get plenty of it otherwise I agree y'all Trayong's hand fell off he's out for a month Mo how are you feeling I'm already sick to my stomach
Starting point is 00:25:23 I now that just killed my mood absolutely right i have to watch clenka pelopay basketball without treyung to set him up that's fucking hell to see on yoke kongwu is hurt as well he's on a fucking boot for the next few weeks that's sick as hell this team is cooked and now i'm i'm looking at the standings we don't have that much uh we don't have an elite cushion over the bro this season like let's just go ahead let's just go ahead and take that one pick that we have try to get as high as possible give me give me a sarr
Starting point is 00:25:56 give me somebody high up there bro that's all I can hope for season's how do you feel dumb he broke it playing defense too that's even worse that's hilarious tough break tough break yeah I mean honestly
Starting point is 00:26:09 it sucks breaking your hands not fun I imagine I'd rather I wish he didn't break his hand but the season's already lost if it helps you fall and get a decent pick I don't remember they have their pick this year right yes we do
Starting point is 00:26:21 yeah so one year they don't give it to the spurs, the better the pick, the better. If they can sneak out of the playing race and fall down, jump up in the lottery a little bit. It may not be the worst thing in the world. Listen, go ahead and keep your pick and get the rest of your picks back. Consider this the end of the Tray Young era, right?
Starting point is 00:26:41 Uh-oh. Do that, do that. Just go ahead and chop it up to the game. And you guys can start fresh because, and this is a good segue to another way. to something else that we have where the hawks over the past x amount of games i think like 3 000 games have been the definition of mid and they have been 15 i think they're like 1,500 and 5500 that's 750 and 750 okay yeah it's oh look at the chat this is mid this is
Starting point is 00:27:15 perfect mid there's never been anything more mid than the alana hawks this is spanning over eras 1500 games how many seasons is that 1500 divided by 82 is 18.29 years this is nearly two decades of mid at the Atlanta Hawks have been someone's that I look like Markiplier
Starting point is 00:27:38 mixed with Keanu Reeves you do what the hell I can see that I can see that's crazy keep going tell us about the mid oh man have to blow it up you have to stop and just look in the mirror and say how do I change my reality because if you keep doing what you're doing if you keep doing
Starting point is 00:27:57 what you're doing I promise you next year they're going to go 41 and 41 and they're going to admit again you know what I have a theory what's in order to break this streak we're going to have to go ahead lose hella games and next season there's going to be a cushion you might win 50 and that'll bounce out the mid record that we have So that's my theory right now. So I'm happy with it. I'm happy with it. That's hilarious.
Starting point is 00:28:25 Shout out to Wave of Lopogus for donating $5. Do you think Wembe can repeat the five by five? Yes, I think we'll repeat it every year, actually. I think it's going to be very often. Shout to NADAC for donating $1. We're going to see that five times a year. That's what we're going to see. Shout to NADC for donating $1.
Starting point is 00:28:41 More money for Mo. As LeBron here, what can he do that is better than Jordan? Not getting into that right now, but thank you for the dollar. What can he do that's better than Jordan? Shout out to Jay, m37 for donating three dollars he said love listening to you guys took took two minutes in class to drop a like appreciate you and uh he said donna is a good yeah i don't know what's so with that at this time 7 30 at night center different country probably he also said don is my goat
Starting point is 00:29:05 by the way stop pimping my boy out i appreciate that yeah you pinned me out last last time it was for i'm here now i would do it again too fast you don't i feel no i'm not doing that I'm like you to Elena Donate another one dollar Mo is down horrendous right now Sweet Jesus How am I down horrendous Because you're a hawk fan
Starting point is 00:29:27 Your life sucks Oh Well my basketball life sucks for sure But My real life is right now What else we talk about I see you have one here Yonis is quietly
Starting point is 00:29:40 Having one of the best seasons Of his career Facts Yeah Bro I've been Trying to like Bring this to attention and like, yo, the type of year that y'all is having around 59, 58%
Starting point is 00:29:53 and he's been around 60% now. And now no one cares because the bucks are just, have been in turmoil for the majority of the season. They did have a good win a couple of days ago. Shards of them beating the Minnesota Timberwolves. Dane wasn't even elite. I think he shot like eight for 23 from the field like that. But they looked a lot more of themselves in that game. But it's the Timberwolves.
Starting point is 00:30:14 Listen, we're going to talk with the bucks later. We're going to talk about. y'all is more in the future about 20 minutes we need to do more of not like in the stream maybe it should be you too as well y'all don't even fucking like the stream because you think the eaters listen i have the i have i hold them accountable almost all the time but you i just i don't do the same shit and you eater like the goddamn stream we only have 289 and just over 800 of y'all in here shame on you did y'all see this pelicans in heat fight i saw it live i was watching this game whatever it went out.
Starting point is 00:30:47 I love. I love it's tackled by Kevin Love. And the Calvary comes in. Jimmy Bullitt didn't like it. Look at this. This is crazy. He's just choking me. Now, the craziest part of it.
Starting point is 00:30:59 Another grown man in a fight is such a crazy and like deranged move. Like, yo. Like choking him like this. It's not in the headlock, but like you doing this with intention. You're trying to like eliminate him. And then that's the thing. That's not even the biggest part of this. Why was Alvarado and Thomas Bryant?
Starting point is 00:31:21 Why were they fighting on the side? Just squabble. What happened there? Yeah, Alvarado's the type of guy. Just pull up his pants and just get ready all the time. Like, he just couldn't help it. He's from the Bronx. What do you expect?
Starting point is 00:31:34 He's in the Bronx? I don't even know that. Yeah, he is. I've seen a whole lot of Alvarez. He's from the Bronx and also he went to school in Georgia Tech. He looks like he hangs out of barbershops. Recreationally. Yeah, this is hilarious and the funniest part is there was another fight on I was it the same day or I think it was the same night
Starting point is 00:31:52 It was the same night. Yeah, we had Lester Cignonia as going at Grant Williams That was crazy Staird deep into his soul. Yeah, oh my god He spit it. It looks like he spit on him whenever he said it. That's just like a disd As disrespect squared. Look at this look at this stare y'all He wants him to know he wants him to know I know what you are so I think you are a bitch to my core let there be no mistakes your pussy
Starting point is 00:32:20 no that's fucking crazy this shit's hilarious bro what we have been what's going on in the Dremont was Dramal was soon hell of shots at
Starting point is 00:32:30 Grant Williams afterwards too saying like you know saying I respect We don't have to talk about that I don't even want to get into that bullshit Dremont's a fucking moron We have to talk about Dremont's comments
Starting point is 00:32:40 Draman's a fucking idiot I don't even like into that Dremont provides me entertainment I love it Dremont keep on doing it Yeah, normally I agree until the other part of that
Starting point is 00:32:50 about who he was like, he could do no wrong, that part I was like, oh, you fucking moron. Anyways, Victor Wimiyama over his last five games. One of these games was obviously a five by five outside of that. Incredible. This man is, people are starting to realize
Starting point is 00:33:04 that he's already a top 25 player in the league. And, you know, we've been on that for the past like month or so. I made my video on my channel where I was like, listen, you know, he's a top five center in the league. People were like, how could you put him over some bonus and sangoon, yada, yada, yada. We got fucking ratioed on thudonis.
Starting point is 00:33:18 So bonus? Shut up. You fighting over greatness for subonis? Get out of here. I know, bro. Bro, I try out to use this word very often. The casual NBA fans think subonis is fucking Yokic. They see the points, rebounds, and assist and nothing else.
Starting point is 00:33:31 And they're just like, how is you not a top 10 player? Because nobody understands that defense is, like, the most important thing for a big man. And Webin Yama might be the best defensive center in the league already next to Rudy Gaubert. He is absolutely ridiculous, bro. Regularly getting five blocks and five steals. just we've never seen a defensive playmaker coming to the league like this in our lifetime guys this guy and and i think you said it last time that he's the one that's going to you know come in to stop all the jordan lebron debates yeah this man i've a my nickname that i'm
Starting point is 00:34:02 going to start calling him he's the avatar right he's like that he's he's the he's the he's the after a hundred years of fighting between the fire nation and everybody else he's coming to save the world right when the world needed him most he appeared and this This guy is ridiculous. Thank God. Jason Tatum is not the face of the fucking league. Good God. Lord save me.
Starting point is 00:34:27 Lord save me. Lord save me. But honestly, I'll be shocked if he doesn't become one of the best defenders of all time at least. Obviously, we don't want to put the expectations of somebody being like a top ten player or ever. You never know until it happens. We have to do it.
Starting point is 00:34:39 We have to do it. The ceiling's there. It's like pacing-wise. For sure, for sure. Well, the ceilings there pacing-wise. It takes longevity. takes injury luck it takes success and team construction all that but just defensively alone if he's not one of the five to ten best defenders ever i'll be wildly shocked this is why i want to see
Starting point is 00:34:57 trey young on the spurs so bad yeah because if he gets there he's going to as soon as he gets an all-mba level or all-mba caliber point guard by his side everybody we're going to jump over top 15 right we're going to start talking top 10 We're going to start talking. That's what I'm saying. We are going to start having those conversations immediately. And it's going to be so apparent where it's like, hey, when he's not playing with morons who hold the ball for 14 seconds and actually have people who know how to throw lobs to the tallest person in the building and who can catch lobs from the free throw line, he's going, his scoring is going to increase the. And he's doing this.
Starting point is 00:35:39 He's done all of this just as like minutes are just ramping up, right? he is there's not enough words man and like we really are just like going in circles to saying how like how great he is but it really is hard to describe
Starting point is 00:35:52 and people in the comments are going to be like the glazing's crazy shut up it doesn't matter you can't you can't glaze the best player that you're going to see in a decade to come into the league like I understand you're like oh how can you say that
Starting point is 00:36:03 my favorite is my favorite listen he's up next you can be you don't if you don't be early fine you don't got to be early like we are you're going to come around I promise they're forced they will be forced to they have no choice when b is here no choice he's coming no choice but no we do have no choice to do luck talk about these donos because skims duncan just donated 30
Starting point is 00:36:24 he said y'all are hands down my favorite sports content creators love that you keep the integrity and negativity alive never fucking with nasty man or miles bridges also please do an ugliest players draft we are not doing it we have ambitions of speaking to NBA players in the near future and having relationships to people in media i can't be up here being like like so-and-so was ugly as fuck that's just too far but hey just let you know if i did have a number one overall pick anthony tolliver you would be number one oh god that's how he said give him what he wanted great player though you you're you're poorly trailblazers days i love it bro i love your jump son in two k oh my god he's not in the league anymore we're safe he's not
Starting point is 00:37:06 he's not running anthony tolliver's not running up on us shout out to yonatan for three dollars shout the clever four for one dollar appreciate y'all man let's leave on the next topic that's not anthony tolliver wait did they say anything with the donuts are they just donated yeah it said something but i was another one card around donated five dollars do y'all think it's possible for wemby to end up being a goat in 2025 years yes that's literally the timeline just matches up so perfectly bro it matches up so perfectly lebron is by to ride off to the sunset gonna go try to play with his son listen He's in L.A. He's literally with the sunset. And when it comes to, like, actually it's going to be a career.
Starting point is 00:37:45 Don't know, don't care. He's living his best life right now. The old man won't leave. He's staying here forever. Yeah, man. Next door. He's got to re-up on the contract. LeBron is angling this time of a three-year deal with the Lakers this summer, as apparently
Starting point is 00:37:59 reported, that he wants a three-year, over a $100 million deal. It doesn't seem like he wants to leave like everybody's trying to will into existence. Maybe that changes if the Lakers go outside. We don't know. But this man wants to be a lot of it. the bag. Can you believe him? I can't believe him at all, actually.
Starting point is 00:38:15 Hey, yeah, a 42-year-old LeBron James. Yeah, I would do it too. Why not? Yeah, you have to. You're late. Why not? Exactly, yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:24 42, 43-year-old LeBron is no worse probably than like a top 30 player in the NBA. Yeah, yeah. And I think that's a stretch. Listen, so he'll donate $9 so the sons can win it all. Doubt.
Starting point is 00:38:36 Hell, no. They can. They can. I mean I say it's possible I mean mathematically yeah It's a non-zero chance They are a team of the league Who is in the playoffs
Starting point is 00:38:45 So it's possible They are team in the league You're just accepting their existence Yeah they could They're breathing right Yeah The players are alive All right man
Starting point is 00:38:55 That's the end of the news stories To talk about I think it's time For us to do what the title of the episode is Let's get into some bold predictions We're gonna we all have five We're gonna run through 15 of them After that we're gonna talk about
Starting point is 00:39:06 You guys as hot takes like always With in the stream so stick around we're going to react in the meantime we have 3754 likes 847 of you in here right now no reason that like count shouldn't be up to 800 as well spam it up for us if we can get to 800 likes by the time you know what maybe we won't do hot takes
Starting point is 00:39:21 you guys got to get to 800 likes for us to do hot takes into the stream how about that damn I like that gun point it's ahead I bet you can't go ahead and get us take 100 likes do it do it hey over the fucking fire let's do it man I love it who wants to do the first board prediction first I'll go
Starting point is 00:39:39 I'll go with mine Because it's kind of Go ahead It's two-partner So kind of already talked about this But we're going to go to the Atlanta Hawks right now Okay The Atlanta Hawks are going to make the plan
Starting point is 00:39:48 They're going to stay in the playing Okay That's your whole prediction But This is the last season That Trey Young will play For the Atlanta Hawks Oh
Starting point is 00:39:59 Pain I like this It will be success and pain They will make the play in And Dejante Murray will carry them to the mid that they are destined for. But the days of Trey Young will be the days of your and the days of no more. Oh, I think this is a W take. I'm going to throw this on the screen right now.
Starting point is 00:40:23 I think there's a lot of smoke here. They're often days of things like this. It could be nothing. Maybe he's going to be there forever. I think it makes a lot of sense for the Hawks. If they fail again this summer, I mean, this playoffs and play in. Do you think there's a world where they could rebuild this team and get to being a legit contender with Tray Young in the next three years? There's a world of that, but that world really doesn't exist unless you're high off cocaine.
Starting point is 00:40:49 Yeah, but it might close your mouth. But yeah, that's... Yeah, cocaine, any other drugs, yeah. You know what I'm saying, K2, whatever you like, but this is not happening unless, like, Trey Young is off this team because of how strapped we are financially or not financially, but asset-wise, you know? and if if you know me i'm all for player i vote for i'm i like players more than the actual team if i'm trae i'm like why the hell what i sit here and waste the prime of my career when all they've given me it's kevin herder okay like he started off the season really shaky for the sacramento kings ain't on none john collins again started off the season really
Starting point is 00:41:25 shaky he ain't on really nothing bro okay you got me someone like a marie spellman there's like all the players that have came across tri young's career have been on absolutely nothing and that goes to show how talented the front office is. They're not talented at all. Leave. Listen, I understand
Starting point is 00:41:43 it's easy for us to be like trade these players. You do rebuilds to try to find yourself with Tray Young. But if they're going to be a position where there's no realistic way
Starting point is 00:41:52 to become a competitive of Trey Young in the next three years, like that's a big window, a big runway. You can't start over a rebuild and you have a player like him that's a floor razor enough to make you not a top 10
Starting point is 00:42:00 worst team in the league. Maybe they can find a John Temehry trade to really make them reload around him and Jalen Johnson, but unless you're getting like a legit star back, which, you know, they already have picks out the door, so they don't have like a necessarily full cupboard of assets. But unless they can find a legit another star to get in when you send John Tamarie out, I don't really see them get into a place of legit competitiveness. So maybe this will
Starting point is 00:42:21 be a rare instance, like a Donovan Mitchell trade, where people were to ban it off early and go into a free full rebuild, even though they haven't had their star that long. Yeah, I think they already tested the market. We'll see how, how, um, how, how, um, how, how, how, um, how, much they want to tear everything down, but they clearly tested the market with Dejante Murray at the deadline. They just didn't think that it was like worth it to do a deal there. But if they can trade Dejante and they can trade trade in the offseason and get a whole boatload of picks going into, you know, this next season, I think that's probably going to be the way that that it goes because, oh, oh, has been a lagged out, mid-combo.
Starting point is 00:43:03 Yeah, I agree. I agree with them. Yeah, I agree for sure. Well, what's the argument to not do it? If I am, the argument to not do it is that, yo, like, this is Atlanta. If you pay attention to Atlanta sports, I don't know why you would do that unless it's like baseball. We don't have like a great fan turnover. Usually whenever there's other teams coming into the arena, I would say like six times out of ten.
Starting point is 00:43:30 We are numbered. We are numbered like shit. And in terms of, like, marketing, that's why you don't do it. But also in terms of just like, yo, like you have been, oh, he's back. The donations from now on are to help me. I didn't think that I was in the hood. I guess I was in denial. But I'm trying to.
Starting point is 00:43:53 They got shooters in Houston. I'm trying to. I didn't think I was near them. You're not because you remember where the white people live. safe. No, no, no, no. You know, I'm saying. Is you too. Mo, do you have a take relating to the Hawks?
Starting point is 00:44:14 Listen, they're trashed. That's all I got to say. They make me sad. I don't want to say shit about the Hawks. All right, we can move on to my first bill prediction. My first bill prediction is, I know we got Dono a little bit ago. So he'll donate $9 and said the Suns can win at all. My Bill prediction is the Sun's going to lose in the first round. Oh, that's what Okay, we have the same bold prediction
Starting point is 00:44:35 I said that the Sun's going to be massively disappointing You have that on there? Yeah, exactly Listen, I don't necessarily think the Suns are bad They just whipped the shit out of the Lakers Great win by them They shot the lights at the ball Nerkish had a vintage game
Starting point is 00:44:47 Every two months Nerkich is good For going fucking crazy Like he's prime Nirkish still I don't doubt the Sun's ability To potentially win a series If the right matchup comes They're not breaking into this top four Would you pick the Suns over the Clippers
Starting point is 00:45:00 No Would you pick the Sons over the Nuggets? No Hell no Would you pick them over the Thunder? Hell no Would you pick them over the Timberwolves? Potentially.
Starting point is 00:45:11 Maybe, probably not though. That's the only one that may be But the Timberwolves deserve more respect than that They've been fantastic The Sons are the worst fourth quarter team in the league So that negates the whole Timberwolves thing of late game offense. They're not good at either Neither are the fucking Sons.
Starting point is 00:45:25 The Sons are terrible rebounding, the terrible with all things that consider being a big team, while the Timberwolves are fucking massive and that's everything they excel at so I don't really see
Starting point is 00:45:33 that being a matchup that the Sons are going to be able to exploit more than they are on the negative end of that I think they could beat a lot of teams
Starting point is 00:45:39 but just how it's going to shake out I think we're in for a sad season for Sons fans I agree I think that for Phoenix also with their
Starting point is 00:45:51 roster construction they need their top three guys when you get to the playoffs and Bradley Biel has not proven that he is reliable this year. Like he's been out for the last four games and I don't know,
Starting point is 00:46:06 like in two months when he's healthy, how much do you trust that Bradley Bill is going to be able to play two months straight of basketball? I don't trust it a lot. Chat, spam it up, chat. Is this a W-tick or L-Tick, Chad? Are they going to win the first round series?
Starting point is 00:46:22 I don't think they beat, yeah, I don't think they beat any one of the four, so I agree. If you look at recent NBA history I would not trust it. See teams like this put together. The number one recipe for failure is just like, yo, if you're top heavy as fuck, the most top heavy team in the NBA in my opinion and one of your guys come in and out the lineup hell so often,
Starting point is 00:46:46 then you know what I'm saying? This is a perfect recipe for disaster. Your team is likely going to hit the lowest of the lows. And for the feeding, sons, that just might mean like, yo, you're not going to win a single playoff series, which would be like shameful and embarrassing but at the same time very understandable because it's like what else what do you expect like racing allen is your fourth sometimes like third best player because brady bill is going to be gone and that's never a good case shout out to kevin galicki another $30 donation he said love your pop boys your shorts
Starting point is 00:47:14 and content from individual content to group stuff is the only thing that keeps my feed clear from all the sad patriots news listen i guess you're a boston guy my bad for the celtic slander but appreciate you for the donation bro you order man sir what a lot saying too so they're either gonna be five six or seven five on the best end seven on the high end timber will are going to be one seed most likely they're probably going to avoid them it's either thunder nuggets or clippers so like even if you give them credit saying they could win a matchup against the timber wolves maybe you want to get them thunder because of you know
Starting point is 00:47:43 like veteran advantage and like been there before sure I guess but at all likelihood it looks like clippers and nuggets is going to be their matchup which i say that now things can change a lot it's just hard to imagine coming out at each the top of those yeah i can't see it i can't see it mo what's what's your bold prediction um bold prediction all right so my first bold prediction is that lucca donch is going to make a a serious late end of the season push for mp right now again i said earlier in the screen their eighth seed right now which is like you know i'm saying no MVP's ever done that over the course of the last what 20 years or so or 30 years and um with that being said they're going to have to do
Starting point is 00:48:26 lot of winning. They have been doing that over the last, what, 10, 15 games. I think over the past a month, they've only lost four games. They've been absolutely cooking. This is the best though you've seen the Luca Dodgton, the Kyrie Irving duo ever. And of course, like, we all know they've gotten a lot bigger with PJ Washington and Daniel Gafford, and they've been able to delegate guys like Derek Jones Jr. onto the bench playing like 20 minutes a game or whatever and having him in the perfect micro doses that you need something like that to do. I think the recipe is fully there for them to go ahead
Starting point is 00:48:58 and try to make this run. I was so turned off by the Dallas Mavericks before the season started, but now I've seen how all the parts fit, including like even more parts of being added to the planet that they've been building. I'm going to go ahead and say that, you know, like
Starting point is 00:49:14 lucid don't just because they're going to rise in the standings in my opinion, probably up to the sixth seed or fifth seed. If they can do that, I'd say like Lucanodon is going to make a serious supposed because yo he's putting them numbers that we haven't seen since like prime dames hardon you know i'm do w take i think this is very reasonable whatever late push means maybe he'll get second maybe he'll get first i don't know the momentum is building shay and yokic are serious threats that i still think he'll probably finish one and two but listen the maps won seven straight before this most recent
Starting point is 00:49:44 loss they're good i think five straight were after the gafford and pj washington trades they're legit good they're going to be one of the stronger teams coming the second half of the season and have a ton of momentum and a lot of people say like you ever heard the term peak too early? A lot of times with Celtics in the past they peak really early and kind of fall off
Starting point is 00:50:01 because people will like get too used to them being good, they kind of take them for granted and sometimes the team does right they take a foot off the gas the maps are the opposite they have all the momentum in the world and they're going to continue to get better which is going to have it fresh in people's heads
Starting point is 00:50:13 that Luca is leading this team to a late push they're all of a sudden going into the playoffs with all the momentum in the world and obviously his stat line you know he's averaging eight more points for game than yokech is pretty fucking crazy i think he has a legit chance of winning it i saw a tweet the other day and actually before i go uh warren jones in the chat say it's his birthday can he get a shout out yo happy birthday man shout out warren yeah also before you keep going i've got some more donations kevin galicki donated
Starting point is 00:50:37 another 30 dollars he's running it the fuck up he said i breded as hell is the richest td3 fan he said as much as i love my city and my teams boston fans are absolutely insane i'm a boston Celtics fan truly believe Al Horford is better than Jewel and Pete. Yeah, Boston Celtics fans are ridiculous. Louis King donated $1. We need that in the game. Yeah, we need some crazy motherfuckers. Boston
Starting point is 00:50:58 supplies them all. Louis King donated $1.00. He said, who was the goat fictional hooper? Donovan, do you want to answer? Is either Calvin Cambridge or Airbud? Yeah, let's go Airbud. Everybody didn't have hands and he was out here dropping 30.
Starting point is 00:51:16 Bug tip $1.00. He said, Can we talk about the Hornets beating the trailblazers 93 to 80 last night? No, we cannot. What the hell want to talk about that? But thank you for the $1. I appreciate you. We do.
Starting point is 00:51:27 We do appreciate it. Anyways, Donovan, is Luca going to win the MVP? He's not. But, and we've been saying this for the last three years. Next year, Lucas winning MVP. Because I think the momentum is actually starting to go in his way once again. And I saw a tweet, I think it was either today or yesterday with somebody's like, Luca is reaching the point of like,
Starting point is 00:51:47 0, 07 to 09, LeBron, where he's the best player in the league, but we can't say it yet because he hasn't, like, you know, he hasn't gone to the finals. Anybody else, if Shea was putting up these numbers, people would have Shea top, top three, right? It would be kind of, it would be kind of nasty. And Luca is out here doing some crazy stuff. And now that they actually have athletes and some goons around him, they, they are, they are primed to rise up in the standings and to make a run. Chat, do y'all think Lucasuan MVP? Spam it up in the chat.
Starting point is 00:52:20 I want to know what y'all think. Listen, episode 69 of the show, we did one question every NBA team must answer. My question for the Mavs was, or not, no, it's one question for every NBA team. It wasn't necessarily they have to answer. My question for the Mavs was, is Luke Dodger's the best player in the world now? Because what you just said about that tweet where he's like, 09 LeBron, where it's like, yes, but we can't say it. I've been on that shit for two months. That's exactly how I feel.
Starting point is 00:52:42 You watch him play. The only thing stopping him from having that title is just doing the playoffs. That's what Mo says And Moe's right Unless you have a crowbar And you can throw it at his knees You're not stopping Luca da He's not
Starting point is 00:52:56 He's going to get whatever he wants You watch him He is just as good As Janus and Yokic I think I'm ready to say that Equally as talented as them Equally as productive Just has to have the success to match
Starting point is 00:53:07 It's how it works in sports It's how it works in life People go towards what they've seen play out And where they have evidence of success They need to see it to believe it Luke is at this point and we're just waiting any year now for that run to finally happen.
Starting point is 00:53:18 Yeah, usually I'm not a fan of crowning people or things too soon but also I'm not a fan of just being blind to the bullshit and like waiting for this clearly obvious thing to happen. You know what I'm saying? So it's like we all know
Starting point is 00:53:34 you, dude, Luke, we've seen him do special things in the playoffs before and whenever he's been out of the playoffs is not because of him and as an individual is because things orbiting around him, which is the trash ass, in my opinion, for an office that they've had for his entire tension.
Starting point is 00:53:50 Or the players, he'd been able with Seth Curry for a chunk of his career, bro, DeAnda Gordon, and all such shit. Reggie Bullough. So it's like... Bro. Kevin Galicki is bread-did the fuck up. He donated another $30. He said, would y'all ever play 2K on the stream? Probably not. Maybe. Maybe he didn't off-season will because nothing
Starting point is 00:54:06 talk about. And he said, find out live who's the best 2K player. My money's on Mo. No. Now, I will say... I'm not in this conversation. Offline, I'm the best. But online, I am like Kendrick Perkins on me. You beat me in one game of blacktop and now you're the best. You know I am the best.
Starting point is 00:54:24 What do you mean? I'm way better than you. What are you talking about? I will be better than you. Oh, we can run in back. You'll be me a one game of blacktop and now you're better. I will stomp out the whole chat in two gay. Get out out of here.
Starting point is 00:54:34 It's not close. You're talking me out online. Just because you know how to spam buttons or online, you know how to manipulate the game with the system, you have no latency and shit like that. That doesn't mean that you can. can look me in the eyes and to face the trash talk that I'm talking about you when we played here you got me one game of blackthaw we played regular fluid game I smoked the fuck out of you no you did not
Starting point is 00:54:53 this is revisionist history pull up the fucking 2K logs what the hell yeah that's not close yeah man shout to Kevin Galicki like I said richest TD3 fan we appreciate you don't know what's your next bull take you or Bill Gates god damn facts those nice I'm my next take is kind of aligned with what Mo said, right? The Mavs are primed to make a run up the standings. And because of that, the Sacramento Kings are going to miss the playoffs entirely. They are going to, the Sacramento Kings are going to be in the play in by the end of the season.
Starting point is 00:55:29 And I don't think that they're going to make it out. The Sacramento Kings, their offense is mid. Their defense is below average. And I think that if they get into a situation where I think that the Mavericks are going to end up getting into the top six and so if the kings end up playing the pelicans who are now starting to employ point guard zion williamson they are going to be in trouble i think in a one game situation i would still trust lebron and anthony davis to dominate the sacramento kings the golden state warriors are peaking at the right time if they get into a one game scenario with the kings
Starting point is 00:56:08 i'm trusting them over sacramento i don't i've been kind of off of sacramento for the second half of this year it just doesn't things aren't clicking with them and I don't see it I don't see it right another tied with the Suns and Pelicans they're five for only off technicality and rule breakers I'm tiebreakers
Starting point is 00:56:28 they can quickly fall down with only half a game ahead of the Mavs like you said that's not a lot of teams that are they're not doing better than any of those teams right now like you said that's I'm with you but before Bob before you give your input Trutang Clan donated $30 he said Galicki inspired
Starting point is 00:56:44 me and Don, who's your favorite Nick of all time? All these motherfuckers are going ban for band right now. I love to see it. Who's going to win? Who has bigger bands? Who is more breaded? I need to know. Appreciate you.
Starting point is 00:57:00 Also, Carmelo Anthony is my favorite Nick of all time. Yeah. Shout out bug for $3 and BG the one for $5. He said Isaac says he's smoking on these mow crayon packs and 2K. That new DLC. Facts. We might have to stream this next week.
Starting point is 00:57:18 No, see, if it's online, I can't do it, bro. It just feels like a completely different game compared to in person. It's different game. Whatever, man. How do you feel about the Kings? The Kings? So you know I've been off the Kings before the season even started. You were?
Starting point is 00:57:31 I'm like, yo, I see this team. Every single team has gone better added major pieces and they just stayed the same. Their head coach is like, yo, our biggest move this offseason is going to be the development of King, Murray. Kiki Murray is fantastic, but he hasn't developed. in the way that they initially saw it. He has a lot of value. He grew tremendously on one side of the floor, but it's not the side that. I don't want to say that they needed, but they're looking for that 20% of the 20 point
Starting point is 00:57:54 per game score type shit. He is not that, and that's okay. But I'm not as low on the Sacramento Kings compared to you guys because over the last four games, DeHaron Fox has been a lot better. He's been averaging, what, 32 points per game, 33 points per game, and he's been shooting a lot more efficiently. He has been going through injuries, and it seems. like these last four games he's been looking at least a lot healthier could be just a
Starting point is 00:58:18 groove thing whatever but um i want to say for like for a chunk of the season outside of the first 10-5 games he's been cooked shoulders have been cooked bro and i think the success of him or him yeah the success of him is really like what determines how their season goes can he keep them above water i don't know depends on what he is we'll see again they're in danger of falling to the plan and I'm with Donovan that if they do fall into that range it's going to be tough because either the mavericks or sons are going to be in there with them maybe the pelicans and then Lakers and Warriors you don't want to see tough sledding out there I guess I'll do my next one my next one I think victim woman yama is going to get a quadruple double over the next year or
Starting point is 00:59:00 two I think we're going to see him be the next player to get a quadruple double I'm I almost feel like certain of that I feel like I could bet a lot of money that he'll be a quadruple double eventually that's light that That's like how many how many quadruple doubles are we talking about that's the real question Is he getting two is he getting three this guy is ridiculous That's like that's like oh that's hilarious He's gonna have he's gonna hit the cycle he's gonna get a triple double a quadruple double and a five by five in like a two-week span and we're just gonna look around like we're in trouble Like the league is in trouble
Starting point is 00:59:38 Yeah man I need to free him from the fucking grips of Kelvin Johnson fuck Listen, man, I got you. San Antonio and Spurs. Give me, again, back all of our picks, and I know personal Atlanta Hawks are representative, and I'll get that deal done for you, just like that. What's your next? My guess that that one's pretty tame.
Starting point is 00:59:56 What's your next one? Okay, my next take. The Golden State Warriors will make a run in the playoffs. Okay. Yeah, what does a run mean? I think a run, in this specific, conversation with the contact added and how they started really
Starting point is 01:00:15 muddy end of earlier the season and now that Dremont Green is back playing some of the best basketball over the last few years John of the Cominga is a whole entire different player now step to step. Clay is coming off the bench which is better now for them. I think your run means you get to the second round, which is great.
Starting point is 01:00:32 Okay. They can win a first round series? Yeah, I believe so. Okay, so let's talk about the teams that can potentially face in the first round. Do you think they could be the Timberwles? this is not that's not a good matchup for them it's not so yeah we just saw them get blasted by the nuggets last night so maybe oh my god galiki is continuing
Starting point is 01:00:50 going bad for band Gallickey does donate $50 it said don't challenge an electrician from south you guys JKL love it is a hot take to say that Yokic has a top four ceiling I don't think it will surpass Braun MJ or Steph I might need to switch career paths y'all
Starting point is 01:01:04 I'm putting in my two weeks fuck this Gallickey put me on you got my resume tomorrow are they hiring I need to go to trade school, man This is it I need to go No, this is crazy
Starting point is 01:01:15 He really took it personally Like you will not True Tankland You have five minutes to respond What are you going to do about it? Nobody believes in you What are you prepared to do about it? That's crazy man
Starting point is 01:01:31 Yeah Appreciate you Kevin as always As we were saying The Nuggets Just listen Yokic had 32, 16 and 16 against him yesterday just blasted them.
Starting point is 01:01:43 Timberwolves also a large team. Maybe I could see a world where the veteran savvy and Draymond defensive genius can win out there and really expose Kat and Gobert on offense. But maybe the Thunder. I guess you can go there for youth if you want to just like bet on that. But I don't know. What team do you think they're most likely to be? I think the Timber Rules have to be the team.
Starting point is 01:02:03 OKC matches up with them entirely too well because they can go ban for ban in terms of how they want to play schematically. against them. I think the Timberules are a bit more limited because, you know, I'm saying, their second best spot on the team, in my opinion, is you to go bear. And there are certain things that the Warriors can do to make his strengths not feel like a strength and kind of like tranquilize them. And so with that being said, I'm like, this has to be the team. And if this is, then it's going to go to seven in my opinion. It's not going to be like a six game, five game series. No, it's going to seven. Okay. Donovan, do you agree? Are the Warriors making a run?
Starting point is 01:02:38 I don't know I don't know This first round It's going to be super interesting I wouldn't bet on it I yeah I wouldn't bet on it I just think that everybody else In the top four
Starting point is 01:02:52 Like Mo said They have counters to what the warriors Want to do And the warriors are going to have to rely On comminga To To be as great as he's been Over this past stretch
Starting point is 01:03:07 He's going to have to step up. They're going to need a lot of guys to start shooting. You're asking him a lot of pods for his first playoff run against one of, you know, the best defenses in the league, no matter who he goes up against. It's tough sledding. So I wouldn't bet on it. Chat, let me know in the chat right now. Do y'all think the Warriors are going to win a playoff series? Spam that up. Listen, they've got to get out of the play in first. They got to beat the Lakers in the first game and then beat whoever wins the 7 and 8 matchup, which let's say it's Pelicans and Kings if we're going that way. That's tough. They got to win both those games. They're a team with a
Starting point is 01:03:38 high ceiling but of also individual gains a very low floor like they you know they can go up or down either which way it's tough exactly and the going up and down is like okay like going against the Warriors I mean the Lakers I feel like they have no chance for some reason I'm just like yeah no you can't beat this
Starting point is 01:03:53 because they're just too big Anthony Davis is gonna he's the type of big obviously who's punished him for years upon years upon years and Lakers shop Minnesota Timberwolves they suck but in terms of matchups like they just it's a worst matchup for them if they were going against the Lakers. And I guess with that being in
Starting point is 01:04:10 mind, maybe my bull take isn't the greatest, but it is a bull take. And if they do go ahead and surpass the Lakers or if the Lakers aren't in that territory anymore, whatever happens to the end of the season, that's my bowl take for sure. All right. True Tane clan don't know the $20. He said, Galiki, you got it, boys. I'm capped out for this one, all love.
Starting point is 01:04:26 Appreciate you, True Tang Clan. Appreciate you. Shout out to Kevin Gullicke for winning the band to band off. Yeah. The inaugural band to band Tad three champion. Shout to Kevin Gallagie. In inaugural for this episode. That is hilarious. Kevin donated another $10 I said all true all true
Starting point is 01:04:41 All love Trutane clan You got a sick username by the way Appreciate you all Nice little competitiveness in the donuts That's hilarious Bro I wish I meant to that This can translation
Starting point is 01:04:51 Translate to my next one I said that the Lakers Are gonna lose the playing tournament My bull take is a Lakers Don't make the playoffs The Lakers fucking suck And I am tired of pretending otherwise And maybe this is a bad take
Starting point is 01:05:06 because like we saw in the in-season tournament, LeBron can turn it up when needed, so maybe they won't. Maybe they'll actually make the first round if they're lucky and get blasted by whoever they play in the first round. Possible, but I don't think the Lakers have a playoff run in them this year.
Starting point is 01:05:20 I think, like I said all year, without Jared Vanderbilt, they're not going to be a good defense. They look better since putting Rui Hachamora in the starting lineup. They got better offensively. Still don't have the ceiling of elite offense or an elite defense,
Starting point is 01:05:33 which is very hard to imagine making a run when you have neither of those things. And it's just, they're at the point now where LeBron is old and can't bring it quite the floor raising he'd been in the past when we saw them be legitimately competitive. Even last year, maybe he's saving it and can be as good as last year, but we'll see. And AD, as great as he's been, at this point of his career, isn't a creator that creates for others and really rises people up. His past has been better this year, but it's still not enough to really elevate high-level half-court offense. And their half-court offense has just been really fucking terrible all year. And I don't see that changing, unless Daniel Russell just has an out-abody experience like Ryu Hutchamor did last.
Starting point is 01:06:06 year and goes flamethrower for a whole playoff series. But it's a lot to hope for. Since Anthony Davis has been playing with LeBron, his play style has completely changed. Like, this is so interesting. But you look up the very first game that the Lakers played, or AD played when he was with the Lakers.
Starting point is 01:06:22 I believe it was with the Los Angeles Clippers. He seems bouncy as ever. Hella agile, post-end up on a consistent basis, had his shot still. Move it entirely different compared to what he is now. And he is just not built to carry the office. Offensive load on a team. That's not who he is. He's not a I don't want to say he's not a number one option But he's just not his game's not catered towards that at all
Starting point is 01:06:45 Yeah, yeah, and when you say that I don't want people misconstrue it he's not worse now because he dribbles worse For sure. But he's a different player now. He's a play finisher now. He's gotten bigger. He plays center now He's the best play finisher in the league probably until victim William Yama steals that title But for the time being wimby is the ideal big man to pair with a guard that can create But that's just a thing he's not the guy that can create right so you need the to be that and lebron doesn't he can't be that full time these days he has to coast a little bit and reeves and delo just haven't been enough firepower to make up for it creation wise it's tough man it's tough you telling me spencer dune we've been throwing this the lineup don't make
Starting point is 01:07:19 a difference spencer binwitty has been very up and down the last game he played he was fucking horrendous it was crazy that's what is that right now that's what is that i don't yeah i don't i don't know if that's like bold like you said um i still think playoff series is is is correct though i don't think that they win a a playoff series i do think that they can get into the into the playoffs i think that in a one game scenario like you said lebron can turn it up and if we need if we if we if uh if you need him to to to run fast right like like old lebron he can do that for for about 36 minutes so um also we'll we'll see because that in-season tournament it know that that was a long time ago but seeing lebron and ad be able to dial it up and seeing
Starting point is 01:08:12 anthie davis be that locked in defensively there i there's a ceiling there where i just can't let that go this year and i think they can make it into the playoffs um now series is series is long gone but the playoffs is yeah and again they can make it out i'm maybe they won't maybe they won't losing the play in it just doesn't matter they have no ceiling i don't think i see it in the cards for this team this year. And I don't know how much better that I'll get this coming summer unless they can fucking fleece a team and find a way to get a star with those three first round
Starting point is 01:08:44 picks that they're so confident with. Maybe it happens, maybe not. Anyways, I got some donuts to get to. Shout out to Avatar A for donating $1. Appreciate you. Kevin Glicki donate another $10. He said, Isaac, it kills me to say this as a Celtics fan. The only team I think can beat the Celtics in the finals
Starting point is 01:08:57 is the Lakers because my glorious King Braun is a born-and-bred Celtic killer. My guy, I would not be worried about that if I was you. dude Nicole you're not going to see them yeah no you're not going to give you fucking nightmares bro
Starting point is 01:09:11 prepare yeah I got I got a seven foot white boy for you ready to fucking terrorize your summer Don what's your next what your next take or bold prediction
Starting point is 01:09:19 not hot takes or saying that for a future episode yeah bold prediction though you don't think that the Lakers would make out of the playing I don't think
Starting point is 01:09:27 the Orlando magic are going to make it out of the playing oh is that that bold I don't know if that's that bold or not I mean out of the play in if they're it'll be disappointing for sure
Starting point is 01:09:37 if they're playing if they're playing oh wait never mind just how the competition you're tripping that's and that's the bowl prediction that's what I'm saying right okay I think I think Miami gets there because the rest of the of the competition it would be
Starting point is 01:09:52 either the Hawks without Tray Young or the Chicago Bulls you think the Bulls are going to take their spot good Lord maybe maybe since the new year since the new year, they've, the magic and they've had injuries, but they've, they've been kind of mid.
Starting point is 01:10:09 And even in this month, they're seven, they're seven and three in February, but their net rating is not great, right? They are, they are still very mid. And I, I think that the process right now for them is very, very hard. We saw them, and obviously it's just one game, but like, we saw them struggle against the pistons and doing all, all that stuff. Jonathan Isaac just got hurt again. So there's a little bit of just worry in my mind where I don't think that they're going
Starting point is 01:10:40 to beat the heat in that 7-8 matchup and watch Kobe White go out and have one of those games where he has, you know, five or six threes and Demard de Rosen is all of a sudden not missing mid-ring shots. I don't think that it's crazy to think that the magic won't do it. And now they're going to be put in a situation. where this is a young team that has not been there before. It's a do-or-die situation. Are they going to be able to have the offense to,
Starting point is 01:11:08 and it's funny that I'm talking about them in the context of playing the bulls and be like, can they overcome this? All of and Carol's legacies on the line. I know, right? But that's going to be the situation that they're going to be in. And I'm curious to see if they can do it. And right now, I'm not sure if they can. Yeah, that's definitely.
Starting point is 01:11:26 I think that they, if even if they fall out, okay that'll be for sure like disappointing but at the same time i come i don't want to compare them to the okay c a last year because i think okay c's a step ahead for sure because chay was solidified as a warline superstar player at that point in time and paula was certainly not that even though he's been spectacular um but if they were to go ahead and beat and bounce out of the plan it's like okay cool lesson learned they have so much retooling and reworking to do on their roster that's like genuinely flawed but through those flaws they've just found ways to shine in the most unorthodox way,
Starting point is 01:12:02 meaning, like, you know what I'm saying? They hang their head on defense, which is insane. Yeah. Yeah, I can see that. I don't think the Bulls will beat them, but it's not crazy to say. I mean, it's one game, right? They could lose.
Starting point is 01:12:13 I see people are spamming the chat. Why do we only have 600 likes? I agree. Can we get us 800 likes? We're 180 away, spam it up. I think we could do it. In the meantime, we all do that. Shout out to Sandy Andy for $1.
Starting point is 01:12:24 Shout to Kevin DeLickey for $5. And shout out to Will Ayer for $5. We appreciate y'all. Listen, Kevin. You're showing off at this point. Fash, you're showing off the money. Yeah, you're bredded, right? You got it.
Starting point is 01:12:36 You got it. Nobody's trying to come for your crown today. It's okay. Yeah, I'm trying to get like you. It's fine. That's hilarious, right. Well, what is your next bull prediction? I got some for you guys.
Starting point is 01:12:49 I've came around to this point. Last podcast episode we recorded, I realized that I made a mistake. Okay. I said something about the Oklahoma City Thunder. I was wrong. I didn't realize they had Bismack Beambo. He's not an X-Factor, okay? That's a crazy way to start off this sentence.
Starting point is 01:13:06 But I didn't realize that they had Bismac Beambo. I forgot about him completely. He's someone who could produce something very valuable to them for just like five minutes a game, which is simply just hidden the opposing team starting defender. Just like that. That's all you need from him. And what that being said, bro, J-Dub,
Starting point is 01:13:27 Shay's already here, Chet's already there, Gordon Howard is there now I think this team is destined to make the Western Conference Finals You think the two Cs making the conference finals? I agree. I think that is a good take. I think that's very reasonable. I'm with you.
Starting point is 01:13:41 Chat, do you all teams of Thunder are making the conference finals? I'm with you. Prior to the last few days, in my head, I wasn't saw on them beating a team like the Minnesota Timber Rules or not going to say the Denver Nuggets or
Starting point is 01:13:55 like the Los Angeles Clippers. But I believe it was last. week fresh off of all-star break we saw them put hands on the clippers and absolutely obliterate them saw so many guys we don't actually kawai p.g yeah if we're what's you gonna say if we're looking at the standings now they'd play the Nuggets in the second round oh never mind I mean I'm not with you anymore the Thunder on getting passing Nuggets okay they could get past the clippers I don't and maybe the Timberwolves but I don't see the Thunder fall into four to play the Timberwool's
Starting point is 01:14:26 second round so it's gonna be Nuggets or Clippers One man army I stand on business Oklahoma City Thunder are going to make the conference finals I get over the guess the Nuggets though Bold prediction yeah Oh
Starting point is 01:14:41 I'm not selling any Nugget stock at all I'm keeping that shit fucking bitter end I'm not getting rid of any Nuggets talk whatsoever do it I'm gonna do it I'm gonna come back on the pod either on Wednesday or next stream I need a little bit of time to digest it because I literally just
Starting point is 01:14:56 jumped on the bandwagon right now for that take give me a little bit of time to think about it i'll i'll update y'all later but right now i think i kind of like it okay flags around the nuggets right now because jemal murray he's no longer going to be playing back-to-backs for the rest of the year which is like not a insane like thing that i'm missing out on too much but it makes you think about his health and his health leading into the playoffs of course not going to put no one plays no fucking back-to-backs in the playoffs and he'll have plenty of time to just rest but that brings me to question how healthy is he and I don't know if they have winning the final ceiling without him.
Starting point is 01:15:33 You can still go to the finals because Yokic is just simply like that and he elevates everyone's play because of how easy the game is to him. But without him, I don't think they can win the finals. Yokich is going to do unmatched horrors to any of these teams. Against the Thunder, they have no answer for Yokic. I think the whole size thing is overblown. They don't need to play Bionbo big minutes or anything. Chet's great.
Starting point is 01:15:55 Yokic is walking through those doors and does the blittering all that. Getting them in the foul trouble immediately It's not a good matchup for almost anybody Not for them I think their whole thing is spacing you out Being with mobility Guard sets screen for guards They hate you tons of creative stuff
Starting point is 01:16:08 Every person in your lineup needs to be able to defend well And move on the perimeter The Nuggets have that They have KCP, they have Murray They have Gordon, they have Porter All solid to good defenders That are not going to have issues at all With any of that movement
Starting point is 01:16:20 And then Yokkish is the ultimate gamebreaker Of against a team that is small I just don't see it We haven't seen a white man like that go on such a massacre since the 1600s god damn yoke's i thought that was going somewhere else thank you thank you thank you for what it's worse for what it's worth the thunder have won three straight against the nuggets right and obviously it's obviously playoff series is much different than regular season but that is a little bit encouraging to where i think that it's going to be a little
Starting point is 01:16:54 bit more competitive than, well, Isaac, whenever you're talking about this series, how many games do you see it going? Oh, well, good, probably like six or seven. It would be a hard series and other great teams. All right, I'm with that. I'm with that. Will Ayer tip $25,
Starting point is 01:17:09 really curious to know who your favorite player is from your fellow pod members team. I'll go first, Jalen Johnson and Jalen Brunson. I love that. I love that. Donovan, what about you? I have I we'll go Dejante I guess damn I was a cop out just say Trey you know you want to say you know you want to say it's true yeah yeah yeah I know it I knew it I knew it you're safe trust me no it's it's Trey and and and uh and LeBron okay that's right yeah LeBron's
Starting point is 01:17:46 obviously easy one for me and then as for the New York Knicks I kind of want to say Josh Hart he got a fantastic podcast They're like three episodes in. I've always liked his archetype as a player as well. Great player. He's a super good glue guy and he does all the nitty and gritty stuff. But that podcast did it for me, man. Personality's top tier.
Starting point is 01:18:05 Josh Hart, show up on the TD3 pod. Please. Kevin Gallicke donated another $30. He said, this may be my last one. Just got a text from my bank that I thought it was fraud. Love you all. I donate because y'all have the best plot on the internet. Also, Isaac the Southerst are sweeping the nuggets.
Starting point is 01:18:24 Scam alert is crazy, bro. Listen, don't get yourself locked out of your account. We appreciate you. You can end it there. We're good. We're good. Trust me. Appreciate you, man.
Starting point is 01:18:32 Wow. That is hilarious, bro. Banks and bank watching this dream right now, and they're like, nah, bro. These folks get in too much motion. Scamler on everyone's account. That's hilarious. All right.
Starting point is 01:18:44 I have, I think, one more. Oh, not two more. My next bowl prediction, the bucks are going to have a top 10 defense the rest of the season and get into the playoffs pretty fucking dangerous. and be as good as we thought they could be potentially because I have a feeling the offensive stuff isn't to come around just fine.
Starting point is 01:19:00 Yeah, you yawn, but over Doc Rivers games that he's been there, they're eighth and defense so far. No, they've been good, they've been good. Jamie Lillard has been injured, Chris has been injured. They have not gotten together offensively. That clearly hasn't been the main focus on them so far, but they focused on getting that defense right. Their transition defense, massively improved.
Starting point is 01:19:19 Really everything defensively, including half court, is massively improved. eighth in defensive rating over an 11 game sample size and I think it's all stuff that is very sustainable I think they're legitimately improving defensively they don't have this thing they once had of last year when they were like a top two defense almost every year but I think they can be top 12 or so
Starting point is 01:19:37 like I predict the top 10 and have it be a non-issue in a playoff series wow that's a interesting take I like that I think that's probably a good bull take because you're not like saying that they're going to go ahead and make the final finals or you know what I'm saying real run but I'll say that's contingent on of course like can how long can they do this for is dame liller gonna he said dame is hurt right now right he was hurt
Starting point is 01:20:04 before he's playing now but he's no he's been struggling yeah exactly he's been struggling um and chris milton has been in and out for a little bit I would say like if they can continue this defense and all the minor adjustments and tweets that doc has made so far bro if doc went to championship it's going to be the worst thing to happen ever. Oh, that would ruin my life. He's going to beat every allegation. You don't mean jokes you can't get off anymore? Damn. That would ruin my life. I might have to retire
Starting point is 01:20:31 from the podcasting game. I would truly have a bad time. I hope your take is wrong. Never mind. I'm praying on the downfall. Yeah, fuck your take. Donovan, which is a next bowl prediction? My next bowl prediction involves the Milwaukee Bucks.
Starting point is 01:20:49 And as currently constructed, they will lose in the first round. Oh, my God. As they will lose to the hands of Lord Halliburton and Pascal Seacom. Wow. I think, I'm just, you know, I don't know what it is. I'm not sold on Milwaukee. I can't get there with them. and this is probably an overreaction
Starting point is 01:21:20 and I understand that I watched them and it looks better obviously than what it was like they don't seem as disjointed but man I I just can't do it I just I can't bring myself to trust this team in a seven game series right now
Starting point is 01:21:38 and I think that I would take Indiana you want to make a TD3 board bit about this should they play what's the bet what do you want to bet i don't think i don't see the bucks losing in the first round i'll say that i mean what's the what's the stakes what are we doing oh probably like i don't know like seven a hundred dollars whoa y'all just crap i mean if you go if you go eight we could do it eight hundred dollars whoa i'm not kevin galicki i'm not kevin galicki i'm not freder like that
Starting point is 01:22:09 yeah oh a hundred dollar a hundred dollar t you do you do right now Two, not me. I can't afford that shit. You just get out of the hood. Yeah. We'll go, what? Put a, put a dinner on it? Sure.
Starting point is 01:22:26 We'll put a dinner on it. I know how your dinners are different than my dinners. So I don't know. But I don't see them losing the first round. I'll bet whatever. All right. We'll go dinner. Okay, we'll go a dinner on this.
Starting point is 01:22:37 Chat, keep track of this. New TD3 board bet. I don't think the bucks are losing the first round. Donovan does. We'll see how plays out. But this is only as currently constructed. If they play the Indiana Pacers, they will lose in the first round. It's only against the Pacers?
Starting point is 01:22:51 Yeah, that's what I'm... All right. Because, like, I mean, if the Sixers end up at six, they're stomping them. I think if the... Here's how it goes. If they play the Knicks or the Pacers, those are the two teams that I think can beat the Bucks in the Mississippi. Okay. I mean, they're not going to put the Knicks in the first round, probably, right?
Starting point is 01:23:08 Well, I mean, they're, I mean, it depends when everyone else, whenever everybody else gets back healthy because Brunson is fighting for his life right now. Yeah. Was OJ is supposed to be off for like three weeks? And now it's like, is he coming back this season? So it's getting a little scary. That's what I'm saying. So, yeah, because the Knicks are only a game and a half up on Indiana.
Starting point is 01:23:28 And I mean, four and six in the last 10, it's not looking great. The offense is stalled out. So we'll see what happens. But if they, if they, healthy Indiana or healthy New York, I think, I think Milwaukee looks like. Someone spamming Mo's forehead is looking real kissable. I don't know what that means. God, why do you guys? Oh, my goodness.
Starting point is 01:23:51 Anyways. What's your next ball prediction, though? Let us see a ball prediction to go ahead and tag along. Take on ahead and tag along to Donovan. Kevin Gates, reality. Relax. Oh, my God. Just made this out.
Starting point is 01:24:06 Shout to Matthew for donating $5 twice. We appreciate you, man. Matthew, shout out for you. But to go ahead and piggyback off of Donovan. I said, God, you just want to do it so badly. It's hilarious. It's an elite sound clip from Kevin Gates. I don't know what clips you, bro.
Starting point is 01:24:28 But anyways, piggyback on what you said. I said the New York Knicks are going to be home wreckers this year in the NBA playoffs. Of course, like you guys said, injuries, people are unsure about how healthy they'll be once that time approaches. But I'm assuming all else is fine. I think they're going to go ahead and cause some team. to have inner turmoil and make serious changes, whether it be the Milwaukee Bucks or a team like, I don't know, not the affiliate of the semi-season season,
Starting point is 01:24:54 but any other team in the Eastern Conference, balls and themselves, like whoever you want to put it, they're going to be homewreckers. They're going to stir up a lot of fucking trouble. So we say homewreckers, you're saying the next year and win a first round series? I think that's fair. Yeah, if they face up, depending on how the standings go,
Starting point is 01:25:09 if they face it somehow against the, I don't know, four or five Cleveland Cavaliers, and if they fucking beat their ass again, which is very, very possible, I think that maybe Donovan is just time to go ahead. The cabin is a two-see, so it's looking like they're going to avoid that,
Starting point is 01:25:22 at least in the first round. But second round is possible. It's possible. Yeah, exactly. I like that. Again, if they're fully healthy, I fully expect the Knicks to make a run. I'm with it.
Starting point is 01:25:32 I have one more bull prediction left. My bull prediction is that the pelicans are going to flame out, as we expect, right? They're not going to make, they have no motion to be expected. And after that, they're going to trade Brandon Ingram this summer,
Starting point is 01:25:44 or they should. Let's fire this up Let's get this going We got to get him out of this team man Nothing against Brandon Ingram Swell player Very good Doesn't deserve to be the man out
Starting point is 01:25:56 Based on his pecking order on the team This team only goes as far As Zion Williamson does when he's empowered Obviously he's playing great right now He's in shape playing well They won two nights ago I forgot who they played They beat the shit out of a team
Starting point is 01:26:09 Ingram was out And they really played into Zion strength And he ate Let me see what they played I forget but you can just see that this team has won too many parts one too many people need to share the ball with they have the lowest rated net rating starting lineup in the league right now
Starting point is 01:26:24 yep that's ridiculous their starting lineup is legitimately not good it was the uh the rockets they beat the shit out of on thursday and yesterday they lost the bulls which is sticky that's because c j mcclum was out they need c j mcclum to be the second option there because his spacing brings a lot to the team and he plays really well off of zion william wilkinson but when they have CJ McCollum
Starting point is 01:26:43 and Brandon Ingram and Jonas Valchunis it's too many guys who want the ball themselves are not focused on prioritizing getting the ball to Zion. I saw a clip the other day people were posting old Zion highlights and be like, oh, he was moving so different
Starting point is 01:26:55 and a Stephen Adams' muse account quoted it and was like, because he was playing nice so big that's prioritizing, feeding him the ball and getting him open, that shit is so facts. Stephen Adams is so good at setting screens against help defenders and doing what he needs to do to clear space and get people open. The current starting lineup around Zion
Starting point is 01:27:11 is the antithesis of that. Nobody prioritizes that at all. It's all players who are best at getting their own bucket and doing, you know, keeping the ball movement, doing regular stuff and getting the ball, not like stopping the offense, but not focused on prioritizing to build around a certain player. That's not the ethos of any of these guys. And they have to play that way to have real success, I think. And the easiest way to do that is to removing room from the equation and also send out Jonas Valchunis and find a way to bring in a big that better suits everything they need. This is telling me that Jonas Valentunis will soon become the poster boy of what addition by subtraction means in the NBA because this will be now twice
Starting point is 01:27:48 that he has been shipped away and his team or his prior team got immensely better on the offense event similar things similar reasons just looks different because zion and john morin are different players but they attack the basket in similar ways in terms of just like yo brute force inability and agility um like it just doesn't work a lot of their best lineups happen to be with obviously like Herb Jones who's been on a tear this entire season along with Trey Murphy and all these guys. And it sucks that Brandy Ingram will have to go because we all know how good he is. But if we are being real and we all know what it takes to be an elite team in the NBA, you have to have one of those elite players. You have
Starting point is 01:28:30 to prioritize him. Yep. And Brandon Ingram, no matter how much you prioritize him, he's not smelling being a top 15 player or even top 20 player, you know? Yeah, again, It's the whole Bill Simmons patented Ewing theory. They're better without one of their better players. It's going to be that. Less is more. They need one less cook in that kitchen. Maybe two less.
Starting point is 01:28:50 Maybe they can, I don't know what the deal is. Maybe McHale Bridges is available one day. Darius Garland, whoever may be, these like young guys that are like all-star potential or like sub-all-star level that can be swapped out for Brennan Ingraham plus assets or whatever. Whoever may be whoever's available, they need to find a way to make that happen. And they have the assets too as well. They still have so many picks from all these. trades from Anthony Davis and Drew Holiday and all these guys, if they're going to make a move,
Starting point is 01:29:16 I just hope that they don't sit on their hands and wait until they're like forced to make be proactive about it. Cash in when Brandi Ingram, he's not as his highest because he hasn't been host and all-star in a few years or whatever, but cash in when Brandon Ingram's value is still pretty high and revamp, retool your team. Do the right fucking thing. They're this close, in my opinion, to becoming a perennial team in the Western Conference. Yeah, and I know
Starting point is 01:29:41 I see somehow I've been very tapped into Pelicans Twitter and there's a lot of debate There's some smart fans who are like This starting lineup is not it They need to prioritize Z and like figure out a way To not break up this core because it's not going to work And there's a lot of fans that are you know They're fans right
Starting point is 01:29:54 They see the Pelicans are winning games And they're like there's nothing wrong with this team They're a good team give them time Give them a chance And I understand that That's why it's weird And it's a bold prediction because They are good
Starting point is 01:30:05 They're going to be probably a top six team in the conference And normally you wouldn't feel the need to make drastic moves when you had momentum and you're still pretty young but they're just so clearly not going to be good enough to ever make a leap above that
Starting point is 01:30:15 like this is their ceiling I think they're always going to be good not great unless they make drastic changes and if I was running the team I wouldn't wait that long to do so for the Pelicans
Starting point is 01:30:25 I would say what Brandon Ingram does provide you is insurance and he makes you feel fucking safe no matter what you know you're going to be good you're never going to be
Starting point is 01:30:34 yeah exactly you're never going to be fucking ass down horrendous 20 and fucking 60 type or 62 type vibes you're going to be okay because the second Zion goes down like similar to last year they're probably going to still be
Starting point is 01:30:49 a playoff team you know what I'm saying but if you do fully lean on to Zion then it's like okay all the eggs are fucking all the chips are cast in and he is the only option yeah shout out to Wool Ayer for donating $20 he said $5 for each Amazon box in the frame goddamn
Starting point is 01:31:05 and shout to Kevin Glicky for donating another $20. He said, one last thing. Why do all former self-ex player get so dumb and annoying when they join the NBA media? Paul Pierce, Scalabrini, and Kendrick Perkins. They all talk that they were part of a dynasty.
Starting point is 01:31:19 Yeah, I don't know. It's like the version of peeking in high school, but like they peaked in 2008. Their career was great, and they just want to get the recognition that they felt they deserve for that team. More power to him, I guess, but I think we all agree here.
Starting point is 01:31:32 That team is very full of themselves. Kevin, stop sending money. You're going to get audited. Three last season. Yeah. Calmed out. Exactly, bro. That's hilarious.
Starting point is 01:31:43 That's hilarious. Yeah. Brian Scalibri was a running meme. They called him what, wasn't he like a red mamba or some shit like that? Yeah. Andrew Perkins has been thrown into many songs. He's memed out like shit.
Starting point is 01:31:54 You know what I'm saying? It's, that team used to be, there needs to be a scientific case on that, for sure. Maybe I'm expecting every single one of those players' brains. And what exactly took place in those 2008 locker rooms? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:07 They bought in something that, Listen, they paid the open price. A lot of the careers in downhill right after. Facts. Donovan, what's your next bowl prediction? Do you have any left? Yeah, I've won. The Boston Celtics will lose no more than three games the rest of the way.
Starting point is 01:32:25 Wow. I thought you were going to say in the playoffs, I was like, oh, let's get spicy. Oh, no, no. They're getting pushed to six a couple times. But they will end this season with a, where, but they are 45 and 12 right now. They will end the season 67 and 15 at the absolute worst. I think that they are already on an eight-game winning streak.
Starting point is 01:32:49 This is a team that for a couple months, I've seen a couple of people just be like, maybe they're just bored with the regular season, right? They are a team that obviously gets judged by what they do in the playoffs. They have all this veteran talent. They are top-heavy. And now it is time to flip the switch and get into playoff mode. And I think that, and this is 100% first take narrative stuff, maybe, maybe Jason Tatum is going to look at all this MVP stuff and everybody being like, you're not really in the MVP stuff.
Starting point is 01:33:20 And now we're going to start turning it up and going crazy. I think that they are going to be fantastic. They also have the third easiest schedule moving forward. Okay. And it's going to be kind of light work. And so I, yeah. Kevin Glicki donated $10 again. And he said, about to expose myself.
Starting point is 01:33:38 He said, about to expose myself. Can't get audited. I'm only 19. No Tatum jokes. My God, I got some bad news for you. The IRS is not going to give a fuck. You can get audited to 19. They're going to be at your door.
Starting point is 01:33:48 I'm sorry, man. My dad is an accountant. I've seen people so down bad immediately crying, calling this man for help. I have so many memories. Kevin, prayers for you. My best advice. You might only be 19. This might be your way.
Starting point is 01:34:01 Is your second year ever doing taxes? You can get audited. I promise. Don't get too ahead of yourself. You can get out of, dude. Do you think that you're above the IRS, Kevin? They're getting their money, all right. Oh, hey, right, right, right, right.
Starting point is 01:34:14 Hey, we don't want to write him out too much. He's doing it himself. He's already cooked. You're right. All right. Someone said, that's a crowd in your statement. Yeah, the subtics are going to continue to go on their run, and they're going to be very, very dominant.
Starting point is 01:34:31 Okay. I see some people on the chat don't like that take very much. Someone said cap, they can't finish games. yuck i think that's a little bit over exaggerated they win games in the they win games in the class we talked about this on on the pod like if you go and you look at their clutch stats offensive offensively in terms of like the offensive rating and the defensive rating they are top five in the league in in clutch moments their win percentage is top i think three in the league in clutch time they low key are at least statistically a good team down the stretch finishing
Starting point is 01:35:03 games. They have had a lot of high-profile losses. They do have some turnover issues that I am worried about once we get to the playoffs. But in a regular season context, I don't think that the clutch stuff is going to affect them getting to whatever
Starting point is 01:35:19 ceiling that they can, which I think is 67 games. Someone said, I'm not going to lie. I know like 10 Hispanic dudes from LA that look just like Isaac. that's hilarious that it's absolutely hilarious damn bro so that's all
Starting point is 01:35:41 my bow predictions Moe do you have any left no I don't have any left but I saw someone in this chat earlier spamming oh Moe tell the Charles Barkley story should I tell it do you guys think they deserve to hear it or what
Starting point is 01:35:53 I mean we're not at 800 likes though that's what I'm saying listen we're at 746 likes if you get to 800 likes we will tell the story if how Charles Barkley stole Moe's girl at All-Star weekend. Almost stole.
Starting point is 01:36:05 He gave her back. He gave her back. He gave her back. It's crazy. Donovan was there. Oh, my God. That is nuts. That was okay.
Starting point is 01:36:14 We almost did. They almost beat. It was crazy. They almost fit to cups. Oh, bro. That is absolutely hilarious. Okay, so listen. Wait, well, wait.
Starting point is 01:36:23 We're not 800 yet. Are we? Okay. We're at 791. Kevin Gluggy donated another one, another $5. He said, if these brothers audit me, I'm going to call it Mo's dad to get into stuff to settle the stuff out. That's hilarious.
Starting point is 01:36:38 Enough tax talk. Yeah, tax talk. All right. We're at 800. All right. So cool. What is it? Like a Saturday night,
Starting point is 01:36:45 All-Star weekend? I think it's after, or is it Sunday. I don't know. Saturday night, all-star weekend. Cool. I'm over here with Donovan.
Starting point is 01:36:53 I was except the hotel because other stuff happened at, okay? And, um... Let me just sound crazy. I was just cold. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 01:37:01 I didn't want to. I don't want to egg you on again. I'll tell that story after. Go ahead. Yeah, exactly. Okay, so cool. We're at All-Star Weekend. Me and Donna were there and then my girlfriend and then her friend and her best friend's boyfriend.
Starting point is 01:37:16 Cool. Those are people there. We see Charles Barkley, my girlfriend and her best friend go ahead and somehow end up talking to him. I walk up to Charles Barkley. I'm like, hey, what's up? How are you? He's like, oh, what's up? What's good, man?
Starting point is 01:37:27 I'm like, yeah, this is my girlfriend. Hi, how are you? Hey, how are you? I'm like, yeah, this is my girl. He's like, oh, it's your girl? It's like, good job. I'm like, oh, yeah, I appreciate that. And I was, and then he was like, he was like, he said something like, what's wrong?
Starting point is 01:37:44 Like, you don't like handsome dudes walking up to your girl and talking to him? And I looked at him up and down, like, bro, you're not handsome to him. You look like my dad. You ain't handsome. Then he started dying. I was like, what you mean, man? He was like, yo, like handsome dudes are all over the place. And I'm like, yeah, you're right.
Starting point is 01:38:01 But you're not one of them. him. And then he went ahead, started screaming out security. Like, security, get this motherfucker out of here. Security, get this motherfucker out of here. I'm like, he was joking, of course. He tried to kick us out.
Starting point is 01:38:16 He was like, nah, I was fuck with you, man. And then after that, went ahead. Hey, listen, listen, Mama, I'm going to try real quick. Go ahead. Somebody's in a chat and they're like, hey, the story is boring as hell.
Starting point is 01:38:29 Wow. was it no it's just funny keep going I didn't want to tell the rest fuck that I think it's a picture anyways
Starting point is 01:38:40 this is how it ended nice thanks that's crazy yeah you turn around and Charles Bark Chad what do you do chat what do you turn around
Starting point is 01:38:48 you see Charles Bark you're trying to steal a girl what do you say when you walk up Mo Mo said you look like my dad only drunk Mo would say that sober Mo would never say that
Starting point is 01:38:56 that's the funniest part I am always sober I don't know what the Fuck, you're talking about. I'm a crown of your court. Moe didn't drink that night. He didn't drink that night. I don't drink that.
Starting point is 01:39:06 Liar. Anyways, yeah. Good story. I think this may be the end of the stream. I believe so, too. What a strange. We appreciate y'all. We had a good old-fashioned band for Band-off.
Starting point is 01:39:22 A couple of other people got in there. Showed this and they were throwing it on the table. They were throwing it up in the air. Twenties are flying everywhere. We didn't have to go ahead and a slug. slutter ourselves out and dance or anything like that we were good today yeah that's end in the stream chat
Starting point is 01:39:36 appreciate y'all tune in next week same time monday 8 p.m. Eastern barring any changes might be Tuesday but more than likely Monday night we'll see all next week as long as Isaac doesn't have tummy issues if it's Tuesday it's tummy

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