The Deep 3 Podcast - Anthony Davis Is UNSTOPPABLE, Here’s Why! | Ep. 14

Episode Date: December 9, 2022

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So a few episodes ago, we opened it with me bragging about how back Anthony Davis is, but I think we have to do it again because we were saying he's back when he scored 37 and 38, two games in a row without LeBron. Things took a whole other level up to last week. Bro, over the last two games that he's played, last game that Cleveland game really don't count. We're not going to speak of that. Strike it from the record. Exactly.

He's averaged, he's put up 99 points on 71% shooting from the field. That is insane. numbers between two games you're saying madness between two games yeah madness yeah i think he scored 55 points of 17 rebounds against the wizards of the day which the narrative around him was already bubbling up they're like oh he's playing like prime ad again things are we need to pay him some respects instead of talking about the fact that the injure all the time that's kind of like all we did with him and then he comes out and does that it's like now it's not the fact that he's back it's like oh is he like potentially a top five player again he's probably a top 10 player again you know what

mean he's playing he's for sure he's for sure in the top 10 now like i think like he's he's solidified that spot because i think at the very edge of that it probably would have been between him and dame and dame's injuries and kept him out of that list right now so yeah he definitely yeah like that that whole era of like kairie dame paul george 80s clearly surpassed them with everything he's done over the last 10 game so he's he's top 10 i it's very interesting though because now he's, are you guys ready to say that he's the best player on the Lakers? We're going to get into that a little bit later

with one of the TikTok segments we got, but right now, I mean, obviously he's been this year. Like, it's not even a debate, right? Like, just going off this season, he has been, maybe we give LeBron the benefit of the doubt and assume he bounces back a little bit when he gets more of a rhythm and potentially in the playoffs will they make it.

But clearly he's been the best player so far this year. Yeah, absolutely without a doubt. And when people talk about, oh, he's back to Prime AD, like, no, I don't even, That talk is damn near inaccurate in my mind Because we've never seen this version of AD before He's playing even better than he was playing back in the 2020 But averaging a little bit more points and also averaging

I think he's obviously more efficient as well Because he's taking less jump shots and with the jump shots that he does take Which are limited he ends up making as well So he's been fucking phenomenal Yeah If he continues this level of play Of course he's gonna be better than LeBron James and It sucks that like it took after so many years

of people being on his ass to, like, you know what I'm saying, take over that. Maybe it took just LeBron James naturally being a little bit worse for him to just, like, take the backseat. That's what it is. Yeah, it's just the fact that LeBron hasn't looked like past years, LeBron. Like, he's starting to round back into form,

but, like, he doesn't drive in the half court anymore. He really only transition gets to the rim. Like, he just looks old, which is what it is. But one thing before we get too into the weeds and stuff like that, let's talk a little bit more about why Anthony Davis has been so good. We wanted a big deep dab a couple episodes ago. we don't got to get back into the X's and O's of Y.

But, you know, the common narrative is, like, all, like, mindset bullshit. People are just like, oh, you finally got that dog in him. We finally want to be aggressive. Oh, my goodness. Come on. Let's talk about it. Why do you think Anthony Davis looks so good right now? I think that Anthony Davis, I think in the past couple of years, that you can see an

Anthony Davis game where he might drop 30 in 10, 30 and 12, and it might be the most unimpressive 30 and 12 that you've ever seen. Just people say that a lot. What does that mean? He's not yelling in people's faces saying, like, and averaging none of these a game. I know what you mean, but explain to people what you mean by that. When I say that, I mean, there's a certain element when you are the best player

or when you are dominating a game of I'm getting the ball. I'm going to do what I want to do. And you are forcing the defense to react to you rather than you reacting to the defense. And Anthony Davis in the past has been reacting to the defense. he's been and listen it's smart to take what the defense gives you that's right all that all that coaching stuff but at a certain point when you are a top five top three player in the world you have to force the issue and you have to get what you want on the offensive end and now anti davis is starting to do that and so when i say it's a dominant um it's a dominant effort from ad that's what

i'm seeing i'm seeing him saying you guys can't stop me i'll get my 30 the way that i want to get it not the way that you want me not not yeah i'm gonna get 30 the way i want to not the way that you want me to get it yeah i know what you mean i think what you're saying that's true there's definitely when people say things like that it's not for no reason like there's clearly something going on that makes people think that and think that oh he's not trying hard but i think the reality is like usually explainable through like practical terms know what i mean because like we all know we say that type of shit but like in reality anthony davis wants to score every possession you know what i mean like he doesn't have less of a fire in him than lebron james

it's just like certain reasons why he can't play that way. And I think specifically the last two years why it hasn't liked the way to a lot of people is because the lack of health he's had. It's kind of just hard to... I felt this way in New Orleans. There was times when I would watch him in New Orleans. Oh, you're tripping then.

And still say... You lost it. And still say the last year in New Orleans when I think the markets was hurt that year and they end up going to the second round. That was a version of Anthony Davis that we saw kind of take a step forward. but up until that point

I was still like more like and you just wanted him to be more more aggressive and as I'm saying that all I can think about is Paul Pierce saying all I can think about is Paul Pierce saying we just got a taste of him I want the whole load that's the whole sentence man you didn't have to see you wanted to say that

all right you just had to get that out that's the only thing that was in my life I'm trying to tell you oh my god yeah well I think a lot of that comes down to the fact we have the big man and people always kind of like because he's like a really good dribbling big man people treat him like he's a wing but like he needs to be fed the ball you know what i mean he's not lebron he's not going to create out the dribble like we're spoiled by janis joel and bead who can do that

type of stuff but that's just never been his bag yeah and we're seeing this year like the reason he's been so good is because they're spamming picking rolls and feeding him down low and letting him use that crazy finishing ability they're not making him do isos the top of the key so shoot mid-range jumpers they're really putting him in the best situation to be a downhole rim roller yeah exactly and i think we should also give credit to this episode is not about him but russell westbrook has been feeding him in the pain. Definitely. She's trying to throw all the most awkward passes to him and making it work.

And he, for the most part, he's been making it work. And LeBron James has been doing the exact same thing since he came back. And I love, I remember the last episode when we saw Eddie first go crazy without LeBron. We were like, okay, this is nice, but can you be great with LeBron James on the court? And I feel like, at least from what I see, LeBron's just naturally taking that second step back. And now, like, you're right. There's maybe picking rolls to get him in perfect position to be right under or at the rim. Like that one, I don't know, dude, I'm not a fucking X as an O guy or whatever, but there's LeBron out the post, posting the Zudup, hella close to the rim, all right?

And then AD comes and goes ahead and screens, dumb-ass close. We don't see players do that at all in the NBA. I've never seen, I don't see that. I've never seen it done to this level before. And they did it a lot during the Bucks game, actually. And it's a super close screen, and LeBron's right. Right at the rim and the defense has no choice but to sack off just a little bit because it's fucking LeBron James at the rim, bro. You know what happens.

He's been doing it for fucking like 20 years. And they just go ahead and pat dump it off and it's an easy, unstoppable guaranteed two points every single time. That low elbow pick and roll was like a Ben Simmons, Joel and Bede special back when they were playing together. So they're basically copying that exact same thing. I feel you. Yeah, you're 100% right. Everything you're saying is true that that point of emphasis is clearly stayed with LeBron. And it's a good point to bring up the Russell Westbrook theme because he's been just increasingly competent.

the past few weeks you know she's looking like a good player that helps the team and a big reason why his assist numbers look so good because they're just he sees ad throws ad the ball it's been that simple yeah that's what russellusbrook is the best that he's like one of the best proactive or not proactive reactive pastors in the NBA just making the simple pass straight line shoot or if there's a little tight window he's only the best at it in the NBA and he's playing to his strengths you know he's not doing no damn shit I haven't seen any crazy I'm proud, no, no, I'm proud of you guys for giving Russ credit. You guys have hated on Russ, specifically, specifically Isaac.

Who is you guys? Some of you. Don't try to dodge the fucking hate credit. I've, I've defended Russ a little bit more than you have. You fucking liar? He's going to lie on camera like that. We have a TikTok, we have a TikTok that I haven't edited yet because it aged. I hate Russ.

You hate him basketball-wise. For sure, but you get those jokes off bad. There's one TikTok. I haven't. edit yet because it ain't poorly because they've been playing well where we said we're the least fun teams of watching the NBA and you were like the Lakers you got Russell Westbrook doing stupid shit I didn't edit yet because he's been playing well yeah that's false that's fault that's false y'all might see that in a week and I might be exposed but that's false yeah

yeah yeah I'm glad Russ has been playing competent at the minimum he's showed that he can still be an NBA player and if they end up trading him so he can get more shooting he can thrive somewhere else at another possible maybe that he's keeping mr six man and that just becomes his new role i'm glad he's not be a crazy turn of his money yeah that'll be a crazy ass turn of this career the only type of i love seeing like hall of fame worthy type players like a carmello anthony fucking blake riffin you could say derrick rose to just go ahead and hone in that like six man type of role and russ could be the greatest he could be the greatest like washed superstar in a six-man rule like ever, you know?

And someone that I also want to give credit to, what are you going to say? Go ahead. No, your point's better. I was just say, I think Russ might still be good enough to start. Yeah. I think we're seeing him like he's thriving as a six-man and maybe that's been like a mentality thing

where he's like comfortable coming in and like planning against the backups and like owning his role. But he looks really good. Like it looks like it's a mixture of that plus just getting his confidence back. So like I think of the right team he's still good enough to start probably. So if there's just no moves made, all right, it just brings a random question. For you two,

if Russell Westbro keeps on playing at this level, would you as Lakers want to re-sign him? Resign? No. No. Fuck no. Not for the low. Crops of him for being a great six-man.

I'm very proud. I'm very happy for him that he's looked as good in this role. But no, for the price is going to be, he still doesn't fit with the team. There's a reason you have to bring your second highest-paid player. Actually, there's a reason you have to bring your highest-paid player off the bench because he doesn't fit with the other two good players. So unless it's cheap as fuck.

no of course not it's work and it's working right now because ad's going bonkers but like if ad drops 10% right 10 15% now we have the same problems as before and instead of eight and two in the last 10 games or or eight and three whatever they are now you're five and five and you're back to mid like yeah Russ Russ has to go just because he's the most expendable asset that they have yeah even if your third best player like him is playing relatively well compared to previous standards it's just hard to succeed when two of your three best players don't fit with each other at all. Yeah, true. Shout out to Lonnie Walker, the fourth. I believe he's the fourth, right?

Big time. Yeah, he's like the fourth, fifth, best players on Lakers of all time, but he's doing his fucking thing. He was fucking ass last night. Terrible. But shout out to him. He's been great, and he's played a big role, asked to why AD is also doing his thing. So we've just like knocking down shots finally. Shout out to Austin Reeves as well. What do they call that man? Hillbilly Kobe or something like that? So much shit. something like that yeah he doesn't like it he hates it yeah line walker's been excellent he's like

he's probably the thing i've been most wrong about this year because when they signed him i was like i mean he's young so people are happy so i'm cool but like he's not that good at anything he's not a good shooter he's a fake good finisher not a great defender but he's proven me completely wrong this year he's been shooting his ass off his verticality's finally showing he's actually a good finisher now he doesn't just miss highlight dunks yeah so definitely proud that he's proved me wrong. Yeah, definitely not as good as Malik Monk last year. He's not that level of shooter or just natural.

I think he's been better than Malik Monk. Hell no. Crazy. No, he's definitely not. Bro, he's after 17 points per game right now. Do you realize it? That is crazy. That is nuts.

That is nuts. But Malik average, like 16 or whatever. Donovan, you're being, Mr. Beam team. You should be able to know this off the top of your head, huh? This is Sacramento. Yeah, Mr. Beam team. Come on now. Listen, listen, let's stop.

He says one good thing about the Kings. That's what I don't say. And it wasn't even like, it was more just me walking back my hate rather than like, you know, rather than like I'm a downhard Kingspan. But we out here, we're really a Lakers pod right now because like we're really having Malik Monk versus Lonnie Walker in conversations like disgusting, yeah. So I'm saying, this is a mid-off. This is my fucking bag. This is terrible. Views drop off like cliff.

No, but Lonnie's, listen, y'all are right. Lonnie's been good. It's very, it's very interesting to see who is kind of like that spark plug for the Lakers. And, like, obviously, it was Malik last year. It was Malik last year. I wonder if he can keep it up. I feel right now the Lakers feel like everybody is playing outside of LeBron. But it feels like everybody's playing at the most optimal level.

Facts. Yeah. But we haven't reached Christmas yet. So I'm still a little bit nervous about their future because a drop-off is going to come from somebody. I don't know who and I don't know when. But it's like, it's on the way. But there's also room for positive regression. Because right now, Kendrick Nunn and Patrick Beverly are steaming piles of dog shit.

They've been like the most useless players in the NBA. Pat Bev, he's the lost cause. He's done. He's done. No, Pat Bev is the one you should expect positive progression from. He's a good role player. He needs to keep focusing on his podcast. And they can go and they can worry about all that.

As a barstall employee. Yeah. Pat Bev sucks. See, you should have this smoke, but you should direct it towards Kendrick Nunn. Kendrick Nunn is a useless basketball player. Patrick Beverly deserves some credit and some assumption he'll go. back to being normal because he's been good for a few years Kendrick Nunn is ass. I won't talk about

Kendrick Nunn because Kendrick Nunn doesn't talk I'll talk about Patrick Beverly because he talks and in the offseason he was going around he said he said listen you put me on that Lakers team we make the conference finals and here they are several games under 500 I don't want to hear anything for Patrick Beverly these last five years or years

these next five years are mine that is like some of the most delusional things I've ever heard in my entire life in history of the planet bro in history of playing. Someone else who just needs shout out as well. One of my favorite role players in the entire NBA has to be it was over the last few years and it has

been Thomas Bryant ever since he tore his, like, last year. But he's been great. He's a great addition. I forget how good of a shooter he is from three and it looks like he's improved a lot. I remember he I think he started out his career at L.A. He was very bad, very mid. And

like he went to Washington and he developed all those skills, really became like a legit stretch five. So he's been great. He's been great. He's a great fit next to 80. I don't know my next 80, but behind AD he's been good because he has that rolling ability that not like 80 because 80 is the best in the league at it. But in terms of archetypes of players, like he's fast for a big that size.

He can move surprisingly. So he's been nice to phone that roll on the bench and the stretch pop capabilities. But we saw last night against the Cavs, there's certain matchups that he should not be playing that much. Him trying to guard Darius Garland and Donovan Mitchell with Jared Allen and picking rolls, he was getting slutted out. crazy every possession giving up a dunk or mid-range jumper it was sad yeah no he was in purgatory dude last night it was an it was embarrassing to hell i mean he's thomas brian what can you expect just be a happy yeah yeah yeah for a backup offensive big he's been he's been

good to watch he's been playing his role real well yeah absolutely yeah before we move off the lakers though i think we should get this opportunity to get a little ticot segment off and talk about anthony davis is standing in the league i said he's still a top 10 player donovan agreed maybe he's pushing top five so I'm gonna name some players I want you to tell me the blah blah can talk are we doing right now I'm gonna do it right now I'm gonna do it right now right now yeah who's better right now okay who's better right now Anthony Davis or Damian Lillard Anthony Davis Damien Lillard is really bad he's on the floor and Damian Lillard isn't even here okay okay let me start that when healthy who's better right now Anthony Davis or

Damien Lillard Anthony Davis yeah Anthony Davis when healthy Damien Litter has been averaging some of the most turnovers so far this season and he hasn't been shooting that wolf three as well he just doesn't look a hundred percent so anthony davis yeah because he hasn't been healthy but i see what you mean i'm gonna go anthony davis too but i think damilard probably there's a little bit more thought when you're giving him but it's a d i don't know listen 55 and 17 speaks yeah oh yeah so you you don't gonna convince me i'm i'm with it y'all y'all y'all might be surprised by by where i'm going with a lot of these okay what about anthony

Andy Davis or Joelle Embed? Oh, man, now this is tough. I have to... Taking Anthony Davis right now. Ooh, man. Really? Right now? Right now?

Yes. I mean, sure. If we're talking the last week, the last 10 games, the last 10 games, Anthony Davis has been the most dominant player in the NBA. And if we're talking about... Big facts.

If we're talking about both of them playing at the level that they've played this season, Anthony Davis has played better this season than Joelle and B. So I'm going to take him right now. I have to give it to you. I have to give it to you. Even though Joel Embed, the whole six is rostered, like, been through hell with injuries. But regardless of fact, I have to go ahead and select AD as well, too, because this season,

Joel and B started off extremely slow. 80 started off slow, but not that slow. So I'm taking AD. Yeah. All right. I mean, I'm the biggest AD fan in the world, obviously, but I'm still going to pick Joel and Bede just because he's more of an offensive creator. It can be more of the engine of your offense.

and AD's definitely been better defensively, but I think Joelle and Beat is clearly still the more impactful offensive player. Yeah, I can't hate you for that. But fucking, give me all the AD love you can. I'll take it all. Oh my God. Yeah, that's terrible. That's crazy.

Yeah. Bring on all the AD praise. I want to hear it. No, keep that other one in. Yeah. Don't edit that one out. No, ended that one out. Okay.

What about LeBron James? Anthony Davis. Anthony Davis. Yeah, Anthony's. What about going forward for the rest of the year? Anthony Davis. That's a hard pill to swallow. LeBron James looks like the old man at the park right now.

He's just out here for cardio. He's going to give a couple dimes, right? A little bit of those he hees. And that's going to be it. I think LeBron is still LeBron, but at this state and also where the Lakers are at in the standings, is LeBron going to be an all-star this year? Probably because he's LeBron. Yeah, he is.

But it's not like a walk in the park. It's not a clear walk in the park like we usually use. He's going to be the top vote getter. The Lakers can't have two all. The Lakers, if it wasn't for LeBron, no, they can't. At this, no, they can. What the fuck are you talking about? They're going to have two all-star starters.

Okay. They are. I definitely agree that they are. But I don't think. He's averaging 26, 9, and 6. He is an all-star. That's so nuts. That's so nuts.

Bron, the, this just goes to show. I fucked up the TikTok segment, but this goes to show, like, the expectations of LeBron James. It's fucking 39 years old. I know his back heard like shit, whole body aching, and I'm over here saying, you're not an all-star. Having the 26th of the age. Only 26 and 9. What the fuck is above? For any other player, bro?

Oh, my God. This is MVP season, top five. Yeah. AD's been better this year, obviously, but I think in the playoff setting, LeBron's probably going to turn it up and be better. And I guess we can give AD to credit, but. It's not easy. You know what I mean? Yeah.

That's fair. It's Anthony Davis right now, though. Easy. Fucking anti Davis over everybody. No, relax. Donovan, are you taking Anthony Davis over Yokut right now? Yeah, I was looking for this one. Over Yokit, yes.

What the fuck? I think right now there's three players. Listen, we can just cut this. But there's three players that I'm not taking Anthony Davis over, and that's Janus, Luca, and Steph. Everybody else, I think I might take Anthony Davis. right this version of anthie davis i think i might take that's crazy i think i think and again it's it's going to be close with yokech it's going to be close with jason tanim it's going to be close with joel

and bid i think that like i'm going to have that discussion i still think that anthony davis currently constructed is a top five play in the world and one of like oh let me hear it it's it's it's insane oh my good you got this man's toes curl on a podcast this is disgusting The way that he's playing right now is literally a combination. It's literally a combination of Janus and Brooke Lopez, who's DPOY right now. Like he's getting all the blocks. He's averaging like three blocks a game. It's ridiculous.

And so he's getting that. I love it. He's getting that stuff. He's being a dominant rebound. He's averaging over 30 a game. Like, if he can play like this, there's not, again, there's only three people that are better than him if he's like this. And this is exactly what I've been waiting for for Anthony Davis for years for years and he's finally living up to that expectation So I'm happy for him and I'm happy for the I see I'm not happy for the Lakers got on because I don't like the latest

But I'm happy for Anthony Davis that he's finally living up to the potential and this is where he's at Okay, listen you're sucking him from the back right now Yeah I'll just say that time I'll take it I'll take it stop that I know that boy needs hurting right now And you wonder you wonder why people just like to hate to hate because you can't give anybody praise without saying stuff like that suck it from the back

move on we talk too much about the Lakers oh my gosh I just want to see what you'd say I'm done yeah he's never going to give anybody that much phrase ever again so y'all better enjoy that holy shit

I'm just kidding I'm just kidding you're right Anthony Davis deserves that much respect can't can't say nothing ridiculous that's funny as hell nasty

I'm just kidding well that concludes our long-ass Lakers segment that was funny as fuck I agree Anthony Davis is definitely a top five level ridiculous

I'm taking it next to call I was fucking crud I'm taking next to call I'm taking Mekin's sick I need mental health day what's next what's next okay

next before we get to our next team we're gonna do what we always do and we're going to react to some hot dicks. Let's go. Let's see what they're talking about. He's so mad. You got all that off just to be called a dick rat. I'm saying. I've hated Anthony Davis more than anybody has over the last three years.

And I'll finally give him some type of praise. Oh, my goodness. What's the hot tics? Oh, my God. I don't like this. Oh, that's funny. I don't like this. I'm just kidding.

okay so I got a list of NBA hot takes y'all let me know these are W or no lucky but says that Luca should leave the Mavs that's a W take that's a that's a W take they have not done anything

to surround him with any type of serious talent and it's about that time because they're going to get ran out the playoffs the currently constructed like they might lose a playoff series in five games again damn yeah i mean you can't argue with that you're definitely right like they're not even the playoff race right now like yeah they're not are they even in the

playing right now let me see i will i will check that right now right now the dallas mavericks are i think they're in the plan they're seventh right now so they're like 10th the other day it shows you how close all these teams are yeah i'm gonna yeah they're currently in the playing they're not going to be favored in any series at this point yeah i'm definitely going to give them an L-Takes because the Dallas Mavericks Every organization has their fuck-ups because of how good Luca Dantuan is

The Dallas Mavericks were not allowed to fuck up many times at all You know? They weren't asked enough to go ahead And have a secondary Option Go-to-go-to-guy like Trey Young to win

They had no shot of rebuilding around him He was too good Yeah exactly I had no opportunity to fucking Grab a second star So that's the L-take I'm gonna go L-take I'm gonna go L-take because after this year

they're gonna have five draft picks the trade so they're going to have one chance to go get a second start play next to him so once they do that and if they fail at that then it's going to be a w take he needs to get out of there absolutely but for now give him one more year yeah nothing to write about john de great john the great says that denver will make the finals uh oh i don't give this a that's a that's a that's a w take we all predicted we all predicted that the nuggets were going to make the finals at the beginning of the year they're finally starting to to come around once jama Murray gets fully back into his rhythm

MPJ is there Yokin start stepping up and doing you know Yokic things again they can easily make they can easily make the finals Yeah yeah Before the season started I said the Warriors would beat them in the conference Finals at this point the Warriors aren't looking too hot So I mean naturally I gotta bump them up one spot right?

Yeah absolutely that you take now this take makes me Double think though because just the other night Kawhi Leonard and fucking Paul George showed up out of nowhere and decided that we're gonna play that they're gonna play basketball today or the other day And Kauai just hit a casually A game winner against the trash-ass Charlotte Hornets And that's making me double-think just a little bit But still the safer side

The safer bet is the Nuggets because it's buying the Clippers stock again He's not I'm not what does that mean? What kind of stock does that mean? I'm getting it off my I'm not buying any clipper stock until Kauai Lennar plays five games in a row Yeah, it's the mo it's the clippers the last time we saw them fully healthy Yeah What happened? They blow a 3-1 lead true they did they did definitely blow a 3-1 lead

and it was one of the it was a top five day in Twitter history but with how they're currently constructed you just can't disregard them completely you have to acknowledge your yes I can and I will how you can't have Norm Powell back then the difference maker

oh wow my bad my bad Norman Norman oh hell no okay last one King Splash says that the Kings are going to make it past the first round of the playoffs.

I'll take. That's too much dip on your chip right there. Too much dip. Too much. Listen, we've given the Kings credit for being a fun team, maybe respectable. It ends there. They're not going to win a playoffs series. They're not right now.

I will give them credit. Currently, as we record this podcast, they're fourth in the West, right? But they're not beating the Suns in a series. They're not beating the Pelicans. They're not beating the Grizzlies. They're not being in the Nuggets. They're not going to beat a healthy Warriors team in the postseason. So there's

They're not going to beat the Grizzlies Yeah Yeah there's like five or six teams Above them that they can A hundred percent play because the West is so close That they're just not going to beat Yeah It's a lake or sneaky and I don't think they beat them either

It'll be a hell of a miracle from the great almighty God For them to get past the second round bro Let's Sacramento Kings fans To just be happy with not being completely irrelevant And breaking that streak And at least being a playing team this year Relax Yeah

Nice Well, those are the three takes I got for today Better than last week Because last week y'all just said these were fucking awful So at least there was one W in here Y'all stepped up y'all game Y'all stepped up y'all game We're preaching.

Yeah, I think The next team we've got to talk about Is a similar conversation To the Anthony Davis one Because it's another guy who's been really injured Really promising And that's Zion Williamson And the Pelicans

Okay, okay Simply put Zion's fucking back Over the last six games They've kind of started to put the ball on his hands more, which is something we haven't seen the start of the season, so his numbers are a little bit down. But over these last six games, he's averaging 26, 9, and 5, and he's shooting a career high from the rim now, which, as you guys know, the beginning of the year, that was kind of

he was slacking. Yeah. He's just back. He's back to being unstoppable. Yeah, absolutely, dude. I feel like the thing with Zion Williamson is that he kind of has an issue. His biggest strength has overplayed his entire game, and a lot of people, even when he was in college, like, they weren't looking at his passing skills or none of his, like, his vision

at all. He has above average vision for someone of his high size, vision, blah, blah, blah. And because of the players that he even had around him in college and RJ Barrett, R.J. Barretted, R. IP, and then Cam Reddish and Ty Jones and all them. Is it Ty Jones? I don't know. Tye, whatever. One of them

light-skinned dudes, all right? Like, they did not really allow Zion to do his thing and operate. And whenever he did have the opportunity, it was quick flashes and easy dump-off passes that no one would react to or pay attention to because he's over here a couple of possessions later. doing fucking 360s and windmill and all that crazy shit.

Blots and swan shots and shit. And now I feel like, Isaac alluded to this during the last episode. I think you said the North Pelicans were suffering because they had too many cooks in the kitchen. And now a couple of cooks are out with some injuries. And the Pelicans are just so fucking deep, bro. And it doesn't matter. I'm glad you said that. I'm glad you said that because Brandon Ingram has been out.

This is the second time this season that Brandon Ingram has missed. like a pretty significant amount of games he's missed i think the last five or six and i see j miss four of those last six games too and it's very clear it's very clear if you're the pelicans this is how the hierarchy is supposed to go and you're supposed to run your offense through the best player and zion wilmson is clearly the best player and so for them either you keep all for these guys and you tell everybody y'all all need to take a step back and let zion lead and let zion cook or you get one of them out of there try to get off of their cause because they handed out a lot of money in the option they yeah yeah i don't think they're there yet but i see what you mean yeah it would be yonis right probably well i

don't know i actually think that if they could maybe go get rid of cj that way you can get yourself an actual point guard it's not a bad what would that deal look like because i mean they just brought him in and i feel like he's a big part of their like identity as a team i think they like him a lot But okay, let's say you're right. They probably do. I just think, like, if him and him and B.I can kind of play the same role in terms of like a playoff series, a volume score, the guy who's going to take the perimeter shots at the end of games, they're going to be in those spots.

CJ's done a really good job of stepping in and being the facilitator and being the point guard, but if you can go and get more of a natural point guard and somebody who doesn't need the ball in their hands as much, that might fit a little bit better with what they have. Yeah, he also hasn't been great this year. shooting he shot like shit to start the year yeah i know you probably don't have a idea but like do you know a point guard you think that would make sense i'll stop your head in my mind a fucking drew holiday ask type beat but they fucking got rid of yeah they can't get your holiday though like who else is available like that he wasn't uh mike conley would be a good option

some some point guard who's not overly aggressive to score but has the ability to do such things um yeah if lonsal ball's leg didn't fall off like he would be yeah he would be great to come back to New Orleans. Kyle Lowry is, I see what we're doing. I don't think, before we get too deep in the rabbit hole, I don't think trading CJ is necessary, that type of thing. Because I think CJ is so good without the ball, as we saw it with next to Damian Lillard.

He's great off the ball. I just think it has to be a coaching thing where with this time where they had to give the ball to Zion, like Donovan said, they need to realize that that's what they should do even when everybody's healthy. Yeah. Because like we said, Ingram and CJ,

they can play without the ball in their hands. Less so Ingrove, but CJ can be an extremely deadly off-ball weapon. So I think it is just a point of, emphasis thing at the end of the day. Absolutely. Another thing is like, I feel so bad, but Yonos Valentuna is such a really, he's a really good center, but he just be in like situations that is not optimal for him in his like career

and also like winning a champion. Facts. You know, like the Memphis Grizzies, he was, damn, he was like the second best player. And a lot of the times during jobs rookie year, like the first, the actual best player on that team. And it just gets to a certain point to where, bro, like you're good. But in order for us to win, like you said, we need to. Our best chances went is through our best player.

And Jonas Valenzuela should be never in any of those type of conversations, bro. Exactly. If we're talking about trades a team to make, it's they need to trade him in a three-team deal and get Miles Turner back. They need to do whatever they can to pry him away. Him and Zion are just a match made in heaven. Which we said that about a lot of teams with Miles Turner, but this is like the one. I mean, it's true. If you can get an athletic big, who can defend the rim and shoot three is like that.

Yeah. And they got a boatload of assets to do such a thing. it just sucks that the Indiana Pacers are like actually good. Now, Tyrese Halliboran went down on an injury, but Andrew Leotard, Nemtard? I don't know what his name, bro. Nemhard? Yeah, whatever. Give her respect.

The man's been bawling his ass off. Yeah, he's a hooping his ass off, but I don't know how consistently that will be or how consistent the Pacers will be, but the Pacers have so much, not the Pacers, the Pelicans have so much assets to pull the trigger on just about any star player that becomes available. And I just hope that if the opportunity presents itself,

they don't pull the trigger on the wrong star player. They need to hurry up, though, and figure out, and kind of figure out this hierarchy. Because, and we talked about it earlier, I don't want to go, like, too deep into it, but they still do have the Lakers pick for next year. And if the Lakers end up out the playoffs and they get into the lottery, anything can happen, and watch them mess around and get a top 10 pick, right? And now you have that much talent coming in, and once again, you have to figure out how to integrate a top talent onto this roster

where we've said so many times that they just have too many cooks. They need to figure out the hierarchy very, very quickly. Yeah, dude, Trey Murphy, Herb Jones, Ingram, Zion. You have to throw Jose Alvarado in there, Jonas Valenzuela.

Who went crazy the other day. Yeah, it went crazy. 38 points eight threes. The fuck? Yeah, he was out of his mind. I thought I was stripping when I saw that 308. This has to be some type of like miss. This has to be a typo or something. like that but he was crazy against the nuggets i'm glad you brought these up all these names let's

talk we haven't really talked about the pelicans all year in like in fleeting conversations we haven't really dove into them let's talk about this team as a whole not just zion and their hierarchy because they're fucking nice they're one of the only teams in a league that have been playing at a pace of top five offense and top five defense i think on the year according to cleaning the glass they're the number six offense and some fucking how the number three defense like that's ridiculous like it's because of the crazy death you're saying yeah and i and i and something that i love like this number like random tip bit is like John Williams and taking accountability

being a little bit more charismatic or whatever during his post-game conferences and he's like asking reporters how did I do on defense and John Williams and something like him I don't think anybody should expect him to be an elite defender but he should definitely be an above average defender and he's been there in these last few games

I think we should expect him to be an elite defender absolutely should yeah we definitely should he's one of the three most athletic dudes in the league like yes you have to be good on defense Because we've seen it before as well. At Duke, he was a really good defender. He was a really good defender.

And what do you mean? No, he was a great defender. I was a really good or great. He was good. Yes, he was. I mean, he's not like Tony Allen. He's not, he's not D. You know what I'm saying?

Like, he's not playing perimeter defense like that. But he's, but he was coming over on the weak side, making all those blocks, being a very solid room protector. Because even though that he's only 6, 6, he can jump out the freaking gym. Like, he has the talent to be a good defender. And so we should expect that. why he was put in the category of, like, one of the best prospects ever, because he was unstoppable score, great athletic defender,

his playmaking shine more in that style of play. Like, he definitely had the full package, which we haven't seen aside the scoring, really, and playmaking when his team's allowed him. But you're right. If he doesn't become an above-average defender by the time he hits his prime, that'll be a disappointment. And listen, over the last couple games,

he has been better. He has been better on defense. He's made a couple strides on there. You can see him giving a little bit more effort and not just letting guys kind of go by him. So that's, it's two things interesting. One, it's interesting that they've been able to kind of maintain this defensive face with him having those inconsistencies on defense.

But now that he's there and you have, you have, not Yoness, wow, you have Zion there, playing the defense that he is, Herb Jones, who's just locked down, and then Alvarado, who's going to come in and get, you know, two steals the. Yep. Every time. How do y'all feel about that? Do y'all like his little move where you stay in the corner and you come by? I love it, but it's only for so long it can work on it because it's a lot of people are always catching on to it and it has been as efficient.

But I fucking love that shit, bro. He fucking played down, not down the street, but he played in at Georgia Tech and he's just a fucking scrappy-ass player in general and plays like that. I love that shit, bro. Like, that's his brain. What they call him, Grand Deft Auto or Grand Theft Albarado? Yeah. Yeah, GTI. No, it's crazy.

Sorry to get off your Grant with Alvarado topic. I'm looking at their defensive stats. He hates to Puerto Rican. So they, I guess. Oh, crazy. Hey. Hey. I didn't even know who's Puerto Rican.

That's hilarious. But I'm thinking about, like, how the fuck is their defense so good with Zion and Yonis as their top two guys? They have the 29th rim defense. Teams are just fucking eating them at the rim alive. And they allow the fifth most threes per game. How the fuck are they such a good defense? That's so bizarre. Yeah, what I'm seeing is they're number one right now in three-point percentage.

So it might just be shooting luck because somehow teams are only shooting 32% from three against them, which is like unsustainably good. Like, it's going to round this way up to 36%. So not to random the parade, but I'm guessing that defensive rating is going to come down a little bit. Yeah. Yeah, most definitely. But good for them. Yeah, regardless of the fact like this is all positive signs and guys like David Griffin

and just all Norence, Pelicans, believers, and fans should like, take this and be like this is a part of the recipe that could put us over the top one day when we're ready to make necessary moves they just have so many good players well trey murphy is so fucking good he he can start on a lot of teams herb jones he's starting for them but like ys and daniels has been playing well too disson danio's a good ass rookie he can't get no real burn on a consistent basis unless like people are out they're so an incredibly deep and that's why i'm like once they do have once the opportunity presents itself in some star player who fits extremely well next to zion or inger or don't like you're

what'd you say to me what i almost cut i almost blocked you for like but now let's talk about that though because like you said they have all these pieces the young guys they have the big contracts and people like yonis they have all the picks what just play some hypotheticals for fun what move do you want to see them making in the next couple years like what star do you want to see become available make this way to new orleans there was a chance I don't think there's a chance Triung would be very optimal optimal next to Zion

Williamson. It hurts to say. I agree. And it's interesting because like we were going to touch on Nate Milk, Doug McMillan to bullshit that he was saying the other day or whatever, that all that drama. It's interesting. It's interesting. Okay. It'll be beautiful basketball. Obviously one, it's Carlton Towns

is the name. People are like, oh, is it going to be gone? I don't like that. Do you want to defense? I don't like that. Yeah. I mean, Offensively, it's cool, but like, do you want your defense with Zion and Carlton Towns? Like, yeah. You got a good defense now. Let's not fuck it up.

In the meantime, though, what there, I feel, I feel like if I'm a New Orange Puggins fan and I don't want to completely cash out someone who could heal that aid if you can't get some like Miles Turner. Bro, y'all been over here laughing at the Washington Wizards while they've, like, low-key, been having one of the best front courts in the entire NBA and Kyle Kuzman's on in Chris Hops, and if I were them, I would be like, why not go ahead and aim for Chris Ops? He can't do anything to hurt us. He won't hurt. Yeah.

That's a great thing. I think if you got Christops, you would kind of, right now he's been so good because he's gotten usage and they're kind of playing through him as like a hub on offense. Yeah. I think if you put him there, you kind of lose that. He might look more like Dallas Christops where he's kind of dispacing the floor, being pissy about it because he doesn't like it. Yeah. So in theory, it's a good fit, but I don't know if it would work because of personality issues. I'll tell him to shut the fuck up and stand on that goddamn corner.

What's me work? What the hell? Listen here, you big bitch. Get over there. That's crazy. That's funny. If we could find some way, I think my dream scenario, if we can find some way to get Zion next to Bam in Miami,

I would really like that for a couple reasons. One, Miami would keep that man in shape. They're not going to let him get fat, which is, which, like, we joke about it. It's a serious thing when it comes to him and the foot issues that he's had. So that would be one. I also think it would be very interesting to see how good BAM is defensively and being able to roam around. And Zion, if he ever does take that leap defensively, having that just like crazy athletic four and five combo.

That would be disgusting. That would be disgusting. I think that that might be like something. Well, I don't know if it would, I don't know if that's probably not like a top five duo. well maybe maybe because yeah I mean I don't know me get up there quick that's what I'm saying maybe I would like to see that you know who I want to see get a chance over there probably because their backup at first I want to see mobba next is out and some lineups that's interesting I like that that'd be cool but they need a free mobba he's over there

rotting away like get him out of there yeah he's been doing a season and he's not the type of player that you you don't trade yonis to start mobbo but like you bring mobba in as a backup get him in some lineups see what happens like that they're definitely too many tall guys out there, out there in Orlando. Boe Bowles. Yeah. Boebles. What the Pelicans need to do, then he'd go and take a chance on Jonathan Isaac at this

point. They could probably I thought it was fucking a pastor. Yeah, the fuck. Yeah, he's not a real person. They can trade like a happy meal or something, get Jonathan Isaac back. How old were you the last time you saw Jonathan? The Harvard Business School. How old were you the last time you saw Jonathan

Isaac play basketball? I think I was probably 19. Motherfuck, I'm 23 now. yeah yeah i was 20 yeah we're 20 like yeah he played in the bubble last right so that was august of 2020 yeah he did i was 20 yeah he did i was 21 i was 21 i'm to be 24 in a few months yeah i was 20 that's crazy dude like uh all right we have we have we have to move on before this gets real like existential yeah facts my holy shit i'm 24 I can't say WRL anymore

I know I was I guarantee people don't even know how old we are they're like damn 24 who the fuck is this geyser yeah are we geeseers now I mean our fans like in general very very young so we're like 10 years older than a lot of these people

what's the next which is crazy to think about like I said move on move on my mom you make it a sad In fact, he's always like this Okay, last thing we're going to talk about Before we get to TikToks

We keep joking about how much you don't get a fuck about them At first there's a joke And now I think some of us don't actually care about them We're going to talk about the Phoenix Suns finally All right, let's do it They deserve some respect Yes, they do Because we make jokes about them

And people think we're like serious and hate the Suns I don't, I have no feelings about the Suns So let's talk about them a little bit Right now there's a number two offense In the NBA somehow with Chris Paul missing the entirety of the year they're just chugging along like usual a lot of people predicted a fall off because they had

such a depressing end to the playoffs last year but no they're just back to being the sons what is y'all general thoughts about them I think that DeAndre Aiton has taken a very good leap forward and he's stepped up in Chris Paul's absence and that has contributed a lot to kind of what they're doing and Devin Booker is having one of the best years

of his career he's who stepped up Yeah, Devin Booker has, like, lived up his potential, and he's like, he's fulfilled it completely, and then some, he's getting every single. Huh? I said, let's not say that. What is potential completely? Like, oh, damn, there. Yeah, what else do you expect out of him? What do you expect him to do?

Yeah, he's having 26 on his, it's 28 points on the best efficiency of his career. I would say that a guy with his build and who's not, like, incredibly slow, you can be, um, like above average maybe even above average plus defender he's not really like that that that that would that that was a pretty good defender that would be for me like reached his potential I don't I don't know I'm not his four take that's not a part of his because I started to get my son's hating but okay but like I see what you mean you're saying there's still room to improve yeah yeah yeah okay I think last year you kind of shut up the defensive issues last year especially for someone with his usage I think he's like perfectly fine

there but I see what you mean yeah and you're say his build sneakily he's only six five with short arms like he's not that athletic of a build you know yeah exactly so i'm like you know like he's not that that athletic of a player i feel like weird enough to say like as time has gone on he just gets more and more athletic and he his body's more in shape and he probably he probably gets stronger like as as he gets older he gets he gets stronger he's been able to to bump to definitely you know he's been able to to give out a little bit more punishment take a little bit more of that beating as he's got older but he's been great this year and i think that he is he is much more of an MVP claim this

year than he did last year when some people were trying to sneak him in there for sure um so yeah why is that though because people could say that hear that and just think like oh you're just hating why wasn't he was just like this last year explaining people why you think he's so much more impressive to you know i think the efficiency is a is a is a big part of it and also the fact that chris paul hasn't been there and he's like when chris paul's there he's running the offense and Chris Ball hasn't been there. And Devin Booker, his assist have gone up to almost like, I think, I think about like six a game. He's really, really, he's really, really taking that step into, I can be, you know, I can be the lead score and I could be one of the main playmakers.

So when we talk about guys like that, like Luca and Steph and guys who are like these offensive engines of their, of their teams and of their franchises, Devin Booker is starting to fit more into that role than he did last year. And so that's what's really been impressive about him this year. Yeah, I agree 100%. And like, honestly, 20 points on elite efficiency, it was 30 earlier in the season with six assists. Like, there's not like, it's a very short list of people that are offensively more valuable than him at this point. And when you get into that realm, when you're clearly in the upper echelon of offensive player and your team is the best in the West, like you have a very strong MVP claim. Like, right now he's basically just West Jason Tatum, you know what I mean?

Yeah, it's crazy to say. think that yeah that's that's a that's a good comp for him it's the thing is the thing with debon booker and i'm i'm not even trying to make a joke right now but you really just don't care about him or like you just don't god leave this stupid fly you really don't you really just don't care about demon booker because the sons the way that the sons fizzled out in the playoffs last year left a bad taste in everybody's mouth and it's kind of it's it's the same thing that we saw two years ago with Janus in that

he goes, wins back to back MVPs and then they're up to O on Toronto and to blow in the series in four and then the next year we come back and we're saying you're not getting MVP until you show something in the playoffs and for Devon Booker

he needs to have that moment because he blew a two O'O lead him and Chris Paul blew a two lead in the finals and then they get ran out of the playoffs at home last year and now it's like, hmm yeah, like

you could spread their legs wide open like what is like oh my God. about what did i say yeah yeah he said i don't like go to repeat nothing you have to watch the episode right back donovan so yeah you're right hundred percent

it's also because they're very um they're not like the word the corny they're cocky but it's not even just they're sassy as fuck oh just the other day i don't know who they beat some weak as team i think it was the king and they were fucking damien lee was out here doing elevated pushing incline or decline pushups bro who fuck won't see that who was a media person behind that too

fire that intern who the hell does he this person know how how badly how poorly you're setting up the suns and Damien Lee what the fuck yeah yeah they're just mad sassy

they just love to talk which like it's cool like do you but that combination with the fact that they got just slutted out in the playoffs like it's gonna make people not want to respect them and they just got slutted out again too by the fact that Devin Booker doesn't like to be double-teamed in open gym. Yeah, well, he's the sassy one.

He's the one that sets the tone against him. Yeah, yeah, makes sense. But everyone, everyone, we got to give love to everyone else on the sons, like a Macal Bridges. You guys already mentioned DeAndre Ian. Oh, McCall Bridges is him completely. McCall is literally the perfect role player in the NBA. She's like fucking 45% from the field. Cameron Payne, he's like such a weird NBA player, one of the ugliest left-hand.

I didn't I didn't know if you were going to say it That's what that's very that's very mean Uglious I was like like we all You know I'm talking about a shot Not like his looks I mean that too but like I don't know say that

Oh that's true Yeah My bad My bad I thought you were talking about I thought you had called him ugly And I was like You didn't have to say that for real

You were like Oh you're right But you're so bad That's on me That's listen if that wasn't the first thing on my mind when I see campaign I would be lying so that's on me that's a 40th minute that's crazy that's hilarious but he's bro he's been strapping shit ripping shit from three point line bro then fucking tory Craig I think he's shooting like 30 39

person they're just hitting from everywhere on the court right now and it's just beautiful to see beautiful to see bro all without Chris Ball who's been like statistically In terms of just, like, feel-go percentage and three-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per-per. It's been down bad. It's been so down-bad. Yeah, he looks cooked. I like this, though, because, like, Chris Paul, it's like he's so, he's getting ready to slowly transition and leave the sunset and, like, make this Phoenix Suns a well-oiled machine once they're post and past the CP3 era. It's a beautiful setup. If I'm the Phoenix Sun-Sent, I don't mind it at all. is it because very quickly I think Chris Paul might have one of like the five worst contracts in the league

yeah oh tough like Chris Paul Chris Paul is on a four year 120 million dollar deal and this deal a lot of years this deal this deal goes through

the end of 24, 25 like there's still two more seasons of it and he gets off of this deal whenever he's 40 years old we might have two years of Chris Paul where he is just completely washed and now he's just going to be $30 million on the floor running around doing nothing and we can we can listen when you're old in the league and you're doing all of that it's it looks it look it's not going to be a good look we've already seen the revival of Chris Paul once coming out of OKC and or yeah coming out of Houston going to

okay c and everyone saying like oh he can still play i don't think he has two of those in him and if if they end up right there's a lot of moving parts with the suns because you still have the whole d'andre aitin thing and we're i'm very curious to see what happens like that is aiton going to be is aton going to be on this team at the start of the next season because if he's not and chris paul's there and now you just have 30 million dollars of below average chris paul and you just have this old man running around out there yeah that's a bad contract old man running around that's a bad contract yeah yeah i don't know i i i'm so conflicted about that to me because like soon as i don't want to say i don't want to discredit the suns because

before i don't i don't want to discredit the sons but at the same time how much credit can you give them for like winning eight or nine games in a row in the bubble uh but like i feel like they found their rhythm before like yeah they found the rhythm and now they're at the points where like they don't need to rely on Chris Paul a couple years ago when this obviously when he was initially there in the year before that or not the year before that but last year you know they're overreliant in my mind at times on Chris Paul for him to be figuring shit out and now they just have this whole system one month and got all his players in place and things are just working so I don't I wouldn't be too sick if I was the son's man yeah I think they're definitely shown

there's a path to life after Chris Paul yeah it's a system now that works outside of just him and also that we've seen that like they've done this without DeAndre Aden being great all season like there's a world where they can package Jandre Aden and get another point card in the building and through that those avenues find a center who's good enough and they can kind of like patch that together

around Devin Booker once Chris Paul's over As long as they have Devin and McHale's good and then they go and get Mousder Imagine imagine they get Mike Colony and Miles Turner Oh my gosh I'm crazy just a worst team okay i think that's enough sunstop we give them there just do i think we should move on to

tic-tok time i'm ready let's do it i love ticot time yeah me too it's the best time it's the moneymaker go ahead and melt my attention span okay okay so first we're going to do something that y'all might have seen on ticot outside of sports we're going to play a little bit 20 questions which i think is fun let's do it i think i'll go first all right all right all right guys Go ahead. So for those who are... Mo and I are going to guess what you're thinking. Yeah.

Okay. For those who don't know how this game works, I'm going to think... I'm going to think of an... Yeah, take turns. I'm going to think of an NBA player from throughout NBA history, and they have 20 questions

to try to guess who that player is. So they can ask me questions that are yes or no, and I can only respond in that way. Now, do we have 20 questions each or 10 questions each? No, combined you have 20 questions. Okay, cool. All right. You start.

You start, well. So you all got to work together. You can, like, rattle them off. All right, cool. Is your player foreign? Wait, wait, wait. Is he an international player? Hold on. That's a great question.

It is a good question. Do it again. Y'all got 20 questions to guess which NBA player I'm thinking of. Is your NBA player international? It's a good question, yes. Knocked a half of Liz Donovan right there. I ask my one question. Okay.

Is he white? Yes. Perfect. is he a big man yes large pasty boy is he a hall of famer I think so

I'm pretty sure he's in if he's not he will be is he from Germany wait fuck no he's not from Germany I should have I should have I wasted a question

It's okay it's okay it's okay um y'all doing good for five questions was his was his primary team in the Western Conference Yes

So, okay Donovan, let's recoup real quick The team he's most known for He was in the West Okay, okay He's in the West So who are we thinking about Right

A Hall of Fame A Hall of Fame West Foreign Big Man He's Hall of Fame Did he say it was white or pasty? He's a he's a pasty white boy He's a white boy Okay, so it's we already got It's not Dirk

He's not German Yeah All right so dirk is out the way um who are the other hate pasty white boys yeah uh don't don't don't think about pacey too much i was making a white i know i'm just i'm just i'm just okay but who are the other like white white big man now so he's okay so he's like i'm trying to think what i'm trying to think where they come from yeah so in my mind i can think of uh sabonis's dad or beat it sabonis and then i can also think of uh

all right let's keep let's keep at let's keep at let's keep asking okay so i just ask my you go is he a power forward yes is he considered a good shooter uh yeah for his era for sure okay for his era which means okay he's a good shooter for his era okay that's that's a great hint that's a great hint uh shit so he's a power forward he's a good shooter is he all is he all is he a hall of him i don't remember yeah he has i said he will i don't know if he is already but he will be okay he will be a hall ofamer he probably already is i just can't remember okay cool and he's a four okay cool is this pal gasol this is palguson sorry for your ears sorry for your ears there we go all he's a great question y'all killed that one that's nice that's nice who don't come

prepared me mo just murdered everybody's earbuds sorry sorry i can't okay donovan you go i got next yeah say the hook all right wait what was the hook i completely forgot what you said y'all got 20 questions to guess which player i'm thinking of all right

all right y'all dang it see i got it so bad at this i know i know so bad i need to be in the mirror and just like getting reps in all right yeah all right yeah i'm i'm i'm it's because i'm looking at it's because i'm looking at you guys and you guys

are like smiling and you guys are making me laugh yeah i'm gonna try to get through this okay all right y'all got 20 questions to guess to guess this player i'm thinking about we'll edit that it's okay all right do it again do it again over time come on okay y'all got 20 questions to guess this NBA play i'm thinking about perfect cool okay I got to ask. It's a good question. Is he international? No.

Don't do it the same way every time. You can't nerve my strategy. What the hell, man? What type of? Where are the rules and regulations? Just go. Just go. Okay, okay, okay.

He's not international? Okay, cool. He's not international. Okay. Is he white? No. Okay. Cool.

So he's a black guy. Was he drafted in the 2000s? Was he drafted in the 2000s? No. Isaac, you can't run. I don't fly off your questions. How many questions did you ask so far? We got a...

Three. Okay, we got to ration our questions, right? So... Yeah, yeah, I got him. We're good. He wasn't drafted in 2000s. Was he drafted before 2000? Yes.

Fuck. I won't know who this is, bro, to be honest, so he's an American drafted before 2000. Was he bald-headed for a good amount of time of his career? No.

He had hair. Okay. It's not Michael Jordan. Yeah, he had hair. Okay. Not Michael Jordan, no Gary Payne, no, none of that. Okay, cool. That's the fifth question.

I'm writing him down. Fifth. Okay. Was the team he's most famous for in the East? Yes. Okay, he's in the East. Yeah. He wasn't bald before the night, before the 2000s.

Okay. Did you make an All-Star team? Yes. Okay. Okay. Okay. Is he a big man? No.

Is this Ray out? He's a small guy. Wait. Is this Ray Allen? No. Oh, fuck. He's not bald. Yeah, fuck.

Rion had a ball doing on him. Yeah, I forgot about that. Okay. Is he a point guard? Yes. Ooh. He's a point guard. That's 10.

He's a black guy. Is it Tracy McGrady? That counts as two, and it's no to both of them. How many questions do you say he's a point guard? You just asked Tracy McGrady? It, oh, fuck. Sorry. Damn.

Yeah. We need to consult more. God damn it. I know you guys blurted them out at the right time You couldn't get to play off each other Yeah Yeah Okay, Eastern Conference Point Guard drafted before the 2000s

Was you draft in the 80s? No Okay Okay Yeah he's So he's either 90s or 70s That's 13 Is Magic Johnson?

No No, it's East Dweeb Ah fuck I forgot my own questions Alright we're down to the last six last six questions left yeah mode it's on you

okay oh fuck okay cool let's do this by divisions Isaac what are some divisions in the eastern conference I don't know

I'm not going to divisions at all I don't know we need to ask about the player more than the team too was he considered a good shooter um no No, that's not his primary school.

That's not what he was considered for. Okay, so he's a passer, probably. Cool, and he's a, okay. He made an all-star team. I remember that. It's a good player. Yeah, he's a point of all-stars. He wasn't drafted in the 80s, so it's got to be the 90s or the 70s, probably.

90s or the 70s? Unless he's not fucking Bob Coosie. He thought about the 80s. We're down to the last five, by the way. Last five. Ah, okay. Fuck. Shit, 90s or 70s?

Is it outlandish for me to say, for me to guess? Is this Oscar Robinson? No. Fuck. Okay. Fuck, who is this man? Yeah. We have four guesses left.

Yeah. Did he make more than five All-Star games? Let me double check. Yeah. I'm sure the rest of him he's a Hall of Famer. Fuck. Wasted it. How many else are games do you make?

Same question, basically, though. No, he did not make more than five. Wow, this is harder. This got harder. Wow. So it's a few-time All-Star? This fucking Tim Hardaway? Jesus, who is this?

All right, three left. Damn. Damn. I'm thinking he was drafted in the 90s. Okay, yeah, drafted in the 90s. He wasn't a shooter. He's black. He wasn't bald-headed.

Is this Alan Iverson? No. Fuck. Point, Borgian. Al-Irison's a shooting guard. Last two. last last two you guys you guys really got to step it up fuck i need i need jen the 90s i need y'all to think okay what penny hardaway is it penny hardaway is it came in clutch it's penny hardway

penny hardway great job i was really hoping y'all would not get it i were so close we're so close but yeah it was the fact that he wasn't a shooter that made me think about penny hardaway made four all-star teams his career um his career shooting percentage is 31% from three It's not like amazing. Yeah, you're right. You're not a shooter. Yeah, drafted in 1993. Gotcha.

Sheesh, bro. I'm so glad we got that one. That was, we were dangerously close. Yeah, we used up every single question. I was letting them fly like a muffler. I'm trying to go for the homeowner. All right. So your turn.

All right, my turn. Cool. I got my player up. I'm going to give y'all 20. Huh? Go ahead. I'm giving y'all 20. questions to guess what NBA player

what was the thing again what was the rest of that I forgot just say guess this NBA player yeah guess this NBA player with 20 questions okay well don't look down like say yeah guess this NBA player in 20 questions fuck yeah my mind's

damn you all suck at this yeah no nah all right guess this NBA player with 20 questions okay is he a Hall of Famer uh no is the team is the team he is most known for in the eastern conference uh i would say i would say yes okay yes yes most definitely he played for a lot of teams is he currently

playing no okay was this player was this player a um an all-star a perennial all-star yeah yeah okay yeah he's not playing right now is he a point is he a guard no well i'll give i'll give that a yeah okay okay so he's probably like a two or three yeah he's not playing right now he's a preernial all-star okay what conference he's playing again primarily east yeah okay um is he was he known as a score yes

I'm thinking it's T-Mack no that's not a guess that's not a guess no that's a guess six questions in that's a guess

no it's not a guess I was not a donovan I was not a donovan I was a question okay was his was his primary era

the 2010 the 2010s uh uh uh no no Okay, so it has to be like 2000s, maybe 2000.

Could be before that. Was he draft? What's the best way to phrase this? Was he drafted before the year 2000? Before the year 2000? Yeah. He had to think about it. So it's probably a 90s guy.

Did he retire? Wait, my bad. Answered wrong. No, he was drafted after the 2000s. He's not playing now and he wasn't a 2010s player, so he's a 2000s guy. yes is okay I'm gonna take a shot in the dark as my guess is this Brendan Rory no you're any questions then I think okay that's a good guess uh wasn't is this Ray Allen no oh I'm stupid okay yeah we did say east it's not Ray Allen okay did this person

wait a bald head no oh I was gonna say doing away but doing ahead of bald head not not for a majority though um okay hmm this is a hard was this person was this person a good defender no bad defender is this Carmelo anthony no 12 questions in fuck okay okay so he's a score okay he's a 2010 score who's a bad defender we can think of this and he's the primary decade was in the 2010's so he's the 2000s so he's a 2000s right did Kobe count it Kobe Canada's a ball ahead right no he's in the east he's in the east that's right in the Eastern Conference I'm trying to think you guys Eastern Conference this is tough to a perennial a perennial all-star though it's like in that gray area of 2000s 2000s

tennis or whatever like you know okay okay he was a chucker apparently in the Eastern Conference she's a score they look at the list of NBA teams. Yeah. Let's pull this up. Was this who? Hmm. Good defender.

Okay, did this player primarily play in the Atlantic Division? Who's in the Atlantic Division? The Boston Celtics, the 76ers, the Nets, the Raptors, and the Celtics. Oh, oh, in the NICs, and the NICs. No, but to give the, no. To throw you a bone, he has played on a team there. Is this Vince Carter? No.

No, he didn't have a baldy. Ah, fuck, he didn't have a baldy. How many questions are we at? Six left. Oh, wow. Six left. We have to do some work here. We're never in this down.

We're going to have to do some work here. He was drafted after the 2000s. That's the part that's fucking me up. So, like, he clearly had, like, the early 2000s. And that, he had to have a short prime then, right? If he wasn't eating the 2010s? I don't know, you tell me. Is that a real question?

We said a lot of names. Wait, he said it, he said a guard. He's not, he's not international. Yeah. He's black. This is weird. That's a question? Yeah, is he black?

Yeah, it's like 70% of the NBA is. Terrible question. Five more left. The hell? Consult with your teammate, man. Well, listen, listen. That's a, that's a good question. I don't know, man.

If he's, if he's white, then he cuts out 70%. Like, God damn. Does any question that cuts out 30% of the league is a pretty good question. Yeah. Okay, what teams in the East have we not named? Okay, so, name any, okay, so, it's not, I'm trying to think about prominence. I'm trying to think about prominent scores. So like, the Wizards.

Oh. Is this Gilbert Arenas? No. It's good guess. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, no. You got it. Four more guests is. I think I know.

I think I know. I think I know. is this Joe Johnson? Yeah Hey Yeah Yeah Good shit

That was great That was a good one That was awesome That was great I should know I thought It's probably Because Mr. Hawk

Yeah I thought about that I thought it would be a good Good ass Canada That was That was fun as fuck Yeah

Okay That's a good one Yeah We all We all walked away With Doug We got two more Ticktox left

Anything is possible Okay, two more TikToks left. Let's go. I'm so happy. Which one's better? The old logo or the new logo? The Atlanta Hawks. That old logo is looking nice.

I kind of like it. I kind of like this. I'm all for retro styles, but this new logo is better. Come on. Yeah, I love the old logo, symbolic. gives me it reminds you of all my childhood but this new logo goes all of so many uniforms it's so it's so it's clean yeah simple i know we all hate minimalism right now but this is one of the few instances where it's actually works absolutely bro i love the new logo

nah and we were when the hawks had this old logo we were fucking begging for them to get a new one so like kind of revision of history to pick that one i was the mbain world hated that logo yeah it was the NBA world doesn't know what it wants it was pretty ugly out there what about the bricklin nets the old logo much better i think i think listen i understand that it's hard to mess up stuff that's black and it's black and white and it's very simple and it's very clean but it's also kind of boring like at least the nets at least the old one had a little bit of like shape to it yeah i'm wondering is the old logo better or were the old jerseys better because that's a different conversation i think both to be honest me personally i believe both

the Brooklyn next logo and also their jerseys are very forgettable very plain when I think about black and white or black and gray I think about the spurs automatically because that history and the next just don't have that at all you know the problem is bolties logos suck so it's like I guess neither one are strong logos by any means yeah so sure we can have take the old one I guess why not yeah definitely the old one all right what about the grizzlies I actually like the do we do really what I like the I like the I like the I think the old one I think the old one is the it's very very dated and it's very like what it's very like listen this is 1990s stuff like we're just going to go out here and throw out like these crazy colors I like the new one it's very cool yeah you have no the new one's fine nothing wrong with the new one it's a perfectly adequate logo yeah but the old one Vancouver Grizzlies is fucking gorgeous there's a reason it's the most popular throwback jersey now yeah absolutely I agree bro those Vancouver jerseys are iconic for none of the basketball reasons on the corn again the

jersey is cool the jersey is cool but the logo is not necessarily better than this one okay i mean you're right it is a dated logo but i think it's so dated is cool again so i'm not to pretend i don't think that cycle okay they're both fired the grises can't lose in the situation facts one of the strongest branding teams is NFL i mean in the NBA now i can't even use that okay another one next next one we're going to talk about the most disrespectful

dunks of all time let's do it I didn't send you guys links because I think you're probably an expert on these because they're very memorable so y'all rate these dunks on a scale of 1 to 10 based on how disrespectful they were first up

Anthony Edwards on you to Wadanavi Okay That's about 10 You doing that to me If I'm an NBA player Most likely My family's watching

And you're embarrassing me like that You have me on the ground like that I can't do it bro Can't do it If your back touches ground That's like an instant 10 Yeah I would Listen

I'm gonna say it In 8.8 8.9 In terms of distance There's a next level of disrespect If you If he had did something too if he had did something too like if he had like pushed them or like walked over him or like stood over him that's where you get that extra point of disrespectful this is just like like dang like you don't have to do them like that on a basketball level but it's not disrespectful on a personal level you're right true i'm gonna get this one to nine strictly because we have that photo when they're at their peak and where you looks like he's just being demoralized as a man just being stripped of all personality that holds a lot of weight it's it's strong it's strong but there's still there's still another level to go yeah well see better. All right. What about LeBron on Jason Terry? That's 10. This is all time. Yep,

10. That's a real 10. That's a real 10. This is that's a personal dunk for most disrespectful dunk of all time. Yeah. That's a personal dunk that had legitimate animosity behind it. Exactly. Jason Terry stole a ring from LeBron. He stole, he messed up his legacy. Like that's not. That's a 10. That's a 10. Yeah. On the surface, LeBron just stared at him. But inwardly, we could hear it. He was called him. He was called him. He was calling him a brittle bitch with no heart. We all know it. Yeah, dog.

After that, after that dunk, if I'm Jason Terry, I'm one of these NBA players who's never going to give LeBron credit for the entirety of his career and then some, bro. He's not even top 10 on my list. Yep. You can back Isaiah Thomas talking about MJ wasn't even like that. Yeah, exactly. Same energy. All right.

John Morant on Malik Beasley. One of the best dunks in the last few years. Probably number one of the last three years, I think. I'm gonna give I actually need to see this one I actually don't remember this one It's pretty I think it's pretty fresh

But I think I think this is a This would be a 10 if we were talking Like athletic feats But in terms of disrespectfulness I think it's like a 7 Like it was just like I don't it I'm running back down the other side of the core

It wasn't it wasn't too many Yeah exactly It was it was a crazy scene The whole whole arena went crazy But Like in terms of just like I feel demoralized Like if I got don't talk that, I'd be like, damn, and I'll forget about it.

Like, not next week because that was really bad. But I'll forget about it like, damn, he jumps high. Not damn, I suck as a man. Yeah, exactly. That's, that's like, that's like a six and a half. Yeah. I think, I think it's kind of weak just because Malik doesn't jump with him. And he tries to take the charge.

I'm not a huge fan of people taking charges anyways, like be a man and jump with him. But, um, yeah, six and a half is cool. Yeah. Okay. solid what about what about Kobe Bryant on Dwight Howard listen they came up with a new adjective for this kind of dump they said that he baptized him

this is this is this is on the upper echelon a disrespectful this is about a 9.6 on the disrespect see I'm gonna say this is a 10 in terms of impressiveness but disrespect I'm gonna go like a 7 like it's impressive because it's such an elite defender but it wasn't that disrespectful watch that again

His nuts was in his face Yeah I kind of I kind of want to watch that again I haven't seen it in a minute But just off the straight Yeah off the straight You did

Off the straight Like you gotta understand What that means That means he made him Have a relationship with God That hard Right Like it's okay fine

It's a 10 You got me Yeah I don't even need to see a clip anymore bro That's a 10 What about Paul George on Birdman

That's a cool 8 Nothing crazy I think it will just for the most part of like straight vibes Paul Jovert had that cool ass part in his hair He was upcoming

Yeah straight He was doing LeBron James All by himself They were chilling You know It was cool eight Cool eight And Chris Anderson

It's fucking Chris Anderson Yeah it's like a seven I think this Yeah It's like I'll give it a six I think this is the most respectable contest You see on this list

Like yeah I respect Birdman For going up with him I do some Yeah exactly That's an iconic though What about Dianjjordan

on Brandon Knight. Oh, my God. That's a 10. This is a motherfucking 12. R.P. Brandon Knight was trained. I woke up. I thought Brandon Knight had died.

It's crazy. I thought he was deceased. And it was just a highlight. Like, that's crazy. That's crazy. If you look up, I swear to you, if you look up the top 50 NBA highlights just ever, Brandon Knight shows up in at least four of them, bro.

He just has that bad of luck. It's outrageous. He just always is doing something. He's doing what he's not supposed to be doing on the defensive band. No, fact. I can't stop laughing. People out here calling him a Brandon Knight's phone, hoping he would answer. Yeah.

Brandon. No. Donovan said, I thought his, I thought his wife was widowed. Yeah, that's top. That's 10 out of 10 disrespectful. I'm crying. I'm good, bro. Yeah.

Yeah, that's. That's up there is one of them. Brandon and I did that to himself, though. You're 6-2. Why are you jumping with a seven-footer? Yeah, bro. Yeah, he's a fucking idiot. If you're the head coach, what do you say to someone like Brandon and I after that?

I would have made him run in practice. Like, that's just bad basketball IQ. Yeah. You're just not being smart. Your lack of brains reflects poorly on all of us. Yeah, bro. He fucked up his money and the rest of his career with that one dunk, bro. No one remembers how good of a player he was.

He was pretty straight. But we remember off of that dunk. And also him getting his ankle snatched by Kyrie during the All-Star Weeking. It's crazy. Damn, that shit's funny. That's crazy. All right. Well, that's all the dunks I got.

So, I think we reached a point where this is the end of the episode. I'm cool with that. It's been a great episode. What a sad moment. This is a very, very good way. What a fun way to end it. That was so fucking funny. Yeah.

That's going to be a fire tick back. What a damn shame it would be if none of these viewers went ahead and left a like before they left. Tragic. Yeah. if you don't like it like are you even like serious like you're fucking for real yeah bro facts well see you next time