The Deep 3 Podcast - Breaking Down Every Early NBA Trade Rumor | TD3 Live

Episode Date: December 11, 2024

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We are once again here for our weekly. Early, too. We, early, as always, know what we do. We're here. We're a weekly live. Yeah, we're starting a new streak. I'm not going to lie. It's like, I think this might be like two or three weeks in a row,

but we've been here mad early. So I'm very proud of us. Also, both. Is it really mad early? It's about 35 seconds early. Yeah. Okay. 45 seconds early is mad early.

35 seconds is just early. I'll say that. That's the line. That's the cut off. Yeah, 45 seconds. Okay. Well, yeah, man, we're here. Listen, both of you were between before we started about how sickly you were.

And you're both sniffly as hell, down bad, talking about I'm going to go take a nap out of the episode. Ugh, sounding gross. Get the people with progress report. So I have pulled off my Safar Marbury. I have eaten Vaseline, try to, you know, try to get my sore throat a little bit better. I got tea going. not everyone's aware of that stuff on Marbury you know we tweeted out and I was like

what the freak are you right I tweeted it and everyone's like oh my god you're getting oiled up and I was like wow this is such an old and like wash reference like y'all don't y'all don't know that Stefan Marbury was out here making videos on like you stream before YouTube talking about how like oh yeah if you have a sore throat just get a spoonful of Vaseline and eat it and so I didn't know that that was like a watched reference and I quickly found out. And so everyone, again, everyone was like, oh,

you're getting oiled up. Yeah, I'm a tune in. That's like, yeah, I'm some pre boys, man. I can't do that. This is what I got the tweet pulled out. This is what we're talking about. He said, doing everything I can to be ready for stream. Picture of Stefan Marbury, no shirt, holding Vaseline. The comments, did he got you too. Damn. Oiled up TD3 stream. Finally an episode worth watching. They took everything wrong away from the sentiments. Y'all, I have a sore throat. I'm just drinking mad ginger, lemon, tea, honey, and eating Vaseline. And y'all think that we're about to get freaky.

That's not what this is about, man. That's not what we're on today. I'm glad you admitted that you did it, bro. I'm glad you admitted that you did it because I was about to say, it's a whole remedy. It's a whole remedy. It's not everybody can go to the doctor. Sometimes you have to do what you just have to do.

And you have to use what's around you. You know what I'm saying? Be resourceful. I'm already on the same page as you. When it comes to the ginger, I don't, I'm not even drinking ginger tea. I eat the action. thing itself. Oh yeah,

that's that one-time medicine when you were talking about. For sure. That's that what's so, but I'm not eating Vaseline or any of that. I threw out a simple Twitter reference. I was like,

yeah, this is like basically my flu game, bro. Simple of that. Well, I'm glad you both could make it. I'm going to get rid of here. Lots of sniffles. Lots of fucked up voices.

But we'll persevere. Because as you guys see by the title, everybody here right now, we're going to talk about all of the NBA trade rumors that came out yesterday when shams actually this morning when shams put out his first like around the league report of the season on ESPN but to be more specific not just talking about the trade rumors we're going to talk through every single big trade target and talk about where

we want them to go where it was up to us where we would trade them yes okay it's it's it's about time because now because in like December 15th and January 15th those are always the two dates that you have to look for when you're talking about trades because like that's whenever people who sign contracts in the off season you know you have to to go through a specific amount of time. So right now, we are about to get into, honestly, probably peak YAP season when it comes to, like, the NBA Discord. People just be talking, reporting anything.

Anybody even thinks about trading for a player. They're like, oh, yeah, this team was this team inquired about them and all the news happened. So this is, this is yap season for sure. Yep, trade season is finally here. I'm ready. I'm ready. But before we get into the new stories of the day, I got two donations to readout. shout out to Chunky Corgi for tipping $7 to the Bucks and Blazers final is going to go crazy this year much love

I can't think of a less likely finals matchup than what you just said for many reasons I got some bad news for you got some bad news for you buddy bucks and Blazers that'll be the least The Bucs are not making it to the finals already in NBSs that's a bigger issue Yeah And shout out to LeBron for tipping $5. He said Don and Mo you better use Vicks vapor rub if you're trying to see some results Also question I I put, I put, I have vicks on under here, two layers of vicks. I'm gonna, I'm gonna tell me.

What's the question? Uh, never mind. It sounds like it was funny. Let me hear you. They're trying to get freaky. But before we get to the trade stuff, you guys know how it goes. We're gonna go over all the biggest storylines of the week so far, all the biggest results, narratives, anything that's happened this week. We'll do that first, and then we'll get to the trade season.

First thing, this was a little bit related to trade talk, but we'll keep it without the trade context. Brandon Ingram reportedly turned down an extension from New Orleans last year that would have paid him $50 million per year. It's reported that this was like $3.50 million and he also apparently turned down a big four-year deal that came along with a trade to the Utah Jazz

last summer because he didn't want to go to Utah. This might be a Dennis Schroeder situation because it's also reported that maybe he doesn't even have $35 million on the table anymore so potentially a lot of money being lost. Who's advising these dudes, man? Someone who isn't worth for him anymore. He is now.

I don't, I, yeah, because that's just like a, that's a crazy decision. And I understand, like, once you get to the NBA, oh shit, man, then lagged out. L Wi-Fi. L. Look at him. He's gone. He said he ate his Vaseline. And man, probably ate his Wi-Fi courts too.

I'm back. I'm back. Everybody spam L-Fi. Listen, we showed up to work today. Okay. That's it. That's all I can tell you. We are showing up to work.

We are getting through it. But yes, it's a massive, it's a potentially, like, massive mistake. Because while Brandon Ingram is good and we all know that he's talented, he's gone again. Yeah, it's just me now. Let me get him back in. Mid-sentence. That's hilarious.

We pull him back in. Y'all got it. Moga kicked out. That was not my phone. That was not my fault That's hilarious I think you got kicked out Isaac And then and turned to kick both of me and Donovan out

I saw the entire time The stream is still up I'm hosting it I don't know if it's me L Wi-Fi You don't make it Oh Yeah

What were you saying about Brandon Ingram knows Savang Donovan Oh every time we get into trade season We always try to think through A Brandon Ingram trade And there's never like a clear fit And so, like, that's, that's the issue whenever you think about him, like, turning down big extensions is that, like, okay, you can do that and you can bet on yourself.

Where is the market for you? Where is there a team that clearly says if we go out and get Brandon Ingram, we can pay him max money. It won't be an overpay. And he significantly improves our team. I'm not sure that there's a lot of markets in the NBA like that. So that's why turning down $50 million, $60 million, even with the years, that's why that's probably not the best move. but we'll see maybe rich paul listen he always has something up his sleep so maybe at this point he can he can get him a deal that he actually likes i don't know man that's tough like when

you talk about the market of brandy and your man what team specifically needs his skill set like he's we can all agree he's talented he's uh all-star caliber player been an all-star already before in his career but you i don't want to say similar to mar to the marteros in the sense but in terms of like play style and fit he's much harder to place on any other team compared to like your normal traditional three and d or whatever because of how he likes to get his buckets off and the type of score that he is off until you who's also like not the most talented or at least like hasn't displayed his defensive talents on that end of the floor either so when i'm thinking about teams who want them you have to be a team that's just like try you're fighting for life

and you're trying to grasp something will be good at something if that's the case then yeah Brandon Hym's your type of guy. There's a couple of teams that come to my, whenever you say that, whenever you say like grasping and like trying to be good at something, the number one team that comes to my mind right now is the, is the Lakers. They're the number one team in terms of a team that has,

that has pieces, has a little bit of infrastructure, and wants to be good. Because there's other teams like around the league who have pieces and like are in a reboot and can, maybe, you know, make a playing push, small playoff push, whatever. The Lakers want to be good. They want to contend for a championship as best as possible.

And so that's why Brandon Ingram to the Lakers fit-wise in just terms of everybody here is on the same page, that probably makes the most sense at this point. Yeah. All right. We'll get to more Brandon Nigham talk pretty soon later in the episode. Next story. So the first non-story, though, before we get to the story, this is not really that. But Nicole Yolkitch over his last six games, 48 points.

56 points, 27 points, 38 points, 28 points, 30 points, as well as a buttload of rebounds, a buttload of assists. He's been going, stupid. We all know this. One of the crazier individual averages right now, he's second in the league in scoring at 32.3 points for game while also lean the league and assists. And up there in rebounds, ridiculous, right?

Well, we don't leave the league an assist. That belongs to Try Young. Oops. There you go. Swell. But, you know, crazy season. he's obviously leading MVP talks, lots of discourse going on already, even though MVP is nowhere close to being a real discourse yet,

but we're already there. And in response today on Gilbert Arena's the show, he said, Nicole Yolguch is putting up empty stats on a losing team. Now, what he meant was, in terms of the MVP discourse, every year there's somebody that goes berserk on a team that's not winning games because they have to, you know, in past years we've seen that before, but usually they're not given the nod for being MVP. So do you guys feel like there's some justification from the fans right now that are saying, why isn't Shea MVP, why isn't Tatum MVP, why are we giving it to Luca on a bad seed when last year Luca couldn't win it because of the seating?

Do you focus on any credence to that? Go ahead. How do you feel about how you feel? This is disgusting to hear. I can understand why people really want Shea and the MVP conversation, which he is, Tatum in there as well. and whatever other, whatever other top seat that you think of. But, oh, man, I thought it was about to sneak. Oh, uh-oh. I'm going to have a whole lot of these, bro.

I hope it doesn't come. Ew, dude, I was going to blow chunks. I was going to be up on the nearest squeeze, dude. I hope he never sneezes. He just keeps making the face that he's about to sneeze. But when you have a player who's so, like, without a doubt, like, the best player in the NBA with, like, a little sizable gap outside of the Honestinacupo.

When you look at his team situation and everything, literally getting worse outside of someone, maybe someone like Aaron Gordon, Jamal Murray is not the same dude. Michael Porter Jr. has just been a continuous disappointment in terms of how we expect them to elevate your bench, non-existent, okay? Your GM and your head coach, they're not on the same page. Everything around Yokush has got worse while he's while he simultaneously has elevated the game continuously to another level. And Yokic has always had this, like, level of playing in him.

Well, let me not say that because genuinely looks like he's gotten better, too. But seeing him have to put up these humongous numbers is needed and necessary. And this is just who he is and he's this good. There's no, I can understand, like, why you prefer someone winning actual games to just have this award. When you have someone like Yokic who's just up front that much clear as day better than any individual player in the NBA, while also scraping and fighting every single win he is the MVP bro it happens sorry cry about it okay i mean you get this pass when you have already won right so like we've said for the last three years that yokic is the best player in the world without him going out and putting

up 35 40 points every single night that's honestly been one of the big critiques from a certain section of people that are like oh he's that you know he's not a buck he's not at the time to, you know, oh, if you, if you need to get 40, can Yoki do it? Guess what? He can do it and he can still do it on high efficiency. And that's, that's the crazy part is that he's going out scoring 45, 50, 56 points, and he's still as efficient as you can ask for for somebody who's, like, as high volume. The comp, I guess, like, for this year is the different, like, Yokites can get 56 and do that

on very high efficiency, where Lamello ball can go get 56, and they both take. you know like 30 something whatever shots lamello's just not doing it as efficiently as in terms of just scoring wise and so there's there's a level there's a level of efficiency that yokech is doing it and the fact that we have asked this of yokech and he has already gotten the past like he doesn't have to prove the stuff that he is a winning player we've seen him win if you haven't done that i'm sorry that's just the way that the game goes you're not going to get that pass coming up you have to win for you before you get i i think we're talking about everything around the main point This is a very simple conversation, I think.

Mavs fans have turned into goddamn, the NBA version of Q&N. Mavs fans are insane people right now. You said Luca couldn't win last year because he's team record, but now Yokic can win it despite not having a top team record. It's so simple. Last year, Luca had to compete with Nicola Yokic, who was the best player in the world on a top two seed in his conference. Nicole Yokic is not competing with Nicola Yokicch.

If he was going against somebody who is, a top one or top two player in the world while being at the top of the Western Conference or the top of Eastern Conference, that person would be in the lead. But you look at those conferences, Jason Tatum and Shea are the best candidates from those top teams. They are nowhere near as good as Nicola Yokic. If Janus

gets to a top two seed while Nicole Yokic is in the play in, I promise you that Yonis will win it. You know, it's a mix of how good you are and how good your team is. Some people have both. You know, like Nicole Yokis last year. Some people like Shea or Tatum are very good players, but there's a clear gap between them and the production of Yokic and the team success doesn't make up for it. If Luca gets the top two seed, he will get it this year. I guarantee it. But for right now, there's nobody else that has a mix of both things that Luke that Yokish had last year.

So it's fair to say we're going to give it to the guy who's clearly the best player in the world right now, especially early in the season when records are so up in the air, they haven't really solidified. Yeah. The only way I can see someone like Luca or Shea or Tatum grab this in. MVP is if they if their team they have to make up for it like you said in the way for Tatum and shea making it up for it is if their team has a generational season and they like only have like eight losses on the year or nine 10 losses in the year something historic that we rarely see i don't know i don't think they're doing that as great as their teams are if if there was a world in which luca was to win MVP he has to be a top two seed i agree i probably like if it depends on how bad the denver nuggets are you're getting on that but if the das mavericks are able to be talk to you see maybe number one and if luca's putting up those like super sane numbers right now his numbers are they're still insane but they're not fucking with yoke's number sadly right now bro

so he has to do those two things and mad fans are pointing to like they're pointing to last year's to last year's race and trying to use it as you know like precedent that's actually not the not the case I think that people if they can frame it a little bit better they might have a little bit better of an argument the two the two years that people actually should point to are 2017 with Russ and Yokic's first MVP where he won where he won and the Nuggets

were from the 60. Those are the two years. You can go and say, hey, somebody else probably should have, should have won it. Like you, you can make the argument. I don't, I'm not on that side. I'm on Westbrook's side, but you can make the argument that Hardin should have won in 2017. You could have, you could also, you could also make the argument. Yana should have won the year that they okay to but he had one back to back he had the whole playoffs and nobody was going to give it to him

so like there's there's that aspect of it but if you look at those two things as outliers then the rest of MVP voting that we've seen for the last six years stays pretty consistent with the way that we look at it which is hey if you are just

if you are having like a great great season you do need to be either way paying looking trying to beg for precedent to make it seem like your guys should win MVP is just weak as fuck. Every single NBA award race is different year by year. Some guys were facing certain competitions

so certain factors mattered more because you're parsing hairs between those guys and those years. Every year's different. People say, why isn't your consistency? You voted for Yokic last year because his team record. Now he voted for him because he's carrying

when Luca was carrying last year because the person they're running against changes what you value and how you compare them. They will never be an equal race year to year. So it just applies to almost anything in NBA discourse, but especially MVP races. Seeking consistency and calling for hypocrisy when it's just materially different debates is so lazy. And if you're mass fans, listen, tell your team to win some close games early on in the season, we wouldn't have to be.

Exactly. Tell Luca, hey, why don't you start the season on fire instead of waiting two to three weeks to actually start getting going to where now Yokit had three weeks to a three weeks to a week. a month of a head start because Luca had to play his way into shape. There's so many other controllable things for for Luca and for the Mavs to get him into a position where he can win MVP. And it's not like anybody goes into the season with crazy bias against Luca. He's always, for the last like four or five years, we've started the year with Luca being either in the top two or top three in MVP odds.

People have been trying to give it to him. But Lucas had stretches where he hasn't played like the MVP and Guess what? There's other guys who have played very consistently across eight months. And if you want to just focus on the last four months, by all means, go ahead. I think that you're wrong. That's why we have eight months of data to look at whenever we're voting it on this thing. Yeah, I 100% degree, dog. This is hilarious.

I just call these bads fans a bitch. Obviously, Bucks fans like, so Bucks fans and Mazz fans, basically any fan that's not from a big market or not Nicole Yokic, swears everybody hates their favorite player hates their favorite team bucks fans are also on a vendetta that the league hates yannis that's why ratings are bad because you don't highlight the best player yada yada yada like

people want to be the underdog so bad and find every reason there's just obvious factors of why your guy isn't winning the award I promise you there's not a conspiracy against your favorite player do you think Adam Sovers lose the sleep thing like how can I take down Milwaukee you don't care about Milwaukee you don't care about Milwaukee you think it's an anti-Greek

I don't think so. No, man. It's not what it's about. It's not what it's about. Just win game. That's all I can tell you to do. Don't get bad at me. Work on your game.

It's not my fault. You have to go and do what you have to do. All right. Let's move on the next story, NFMVP talk. Dirk New Whiskey and Blake Griffin are names to watch for Amazon Prime Video per Andrew Marchand.

Amazon Prime Video agreed with Ian Eagle to be its number one play-by-play announcer, but it's yet to hire an list. Blake Griffin, Dirk Novitsky, I'm assuming Richard Jefferson, and Stan Van Gundy are some names to watch. Very interesting. Do you want to see Blake Griffin or Dirk on TV calling games? Yeah. I think Blake Griffin is hilarious. He would go crazy. Isn't he like a comedian also? Or didn't he like try to be a stadium or something like that? He's dabbled. Yeah, he's dabbled in this bag. Yeah. He was he was in LA. He was at the clubs. You can get some jokes off.

Yeah. Yeah. I think you would be hilarious. I think it would be perfect for that. So, Dirk and Whiskey, I think he's like too super neutral dude. I haven't heard. I don't remember him being like an outstanding personality over the mic. But something like OG on some knowledge to him, why not you're giving the chance. Yeah, I never really heard him like this. It would be fun. He, I've seen him because he's like done some work on, on inside the NBA.

And so like I've seen him. I think that he's actually pretty good on studio show, studio stuff. I do think that the other three in terms of like Richard, Blake and Stan, there, I think all three of them would be fantastic as like the as the color analyst and it would be listen i'd eagle and one of them two's like listen amazon loading up they're they're loading up they're getting themselves a team because that's that's pretty fired speaking of we have the other side too in this next report NBC plans to hire jama Crawford to call games and is showing interest in reggie Miller NBC's security deal with Jamal Crawford oh sources briefed on discussion said Tuesday

the contracts aren't signed yet norris crawfer's exact place on NBC's depth chart fully defined, but he is expected to call games per the source. NBC also has some interest in T&T's lead analyst Reggie Miller for its game broadcast. Interesting. They can get Reggie if they want, sure. NBC is loading up, man. Exactly. I love Jamal Crawford. I think Jamal Crawford has a great future in media, so I'm very glad to see him get a chance with one of these new places that are going to be calling games. Very excited for that part. Have we, have we got a word on if, uh, if D. Wade is going to be like fully in the packets because him because he got better as the Olympics went on him and Noah Eagle they got better on as like a play by play duo is that do we know that or no I haven't

seen anything about it yeah I'm gonna it's been it's been real quiet it's been real quiet Dwayway so probably too busy like morning over that horrific statute they put up for no he said he liked it he was involved bro he's lying of course he's gonna say that he said he was involved what else is he gonna say no that shit's ass of course he's gonna say that. He can't be up there like, y'all too terrible. He can't just let low. Next

new story. You know, last week's stream, we talked about this. It was a very sad day for highlights watchers everywhere. Because John Morant says he doesn't want to dunk anymore. He said, I'm not trying to dunk at all. Y'all don't think I'm lying, but I'm dead serious. Sometimes I get knocked out the air and a foul doesn't get called. And now I'm out longer

and I'm supposed to be. Basically, he was saying he's done dunking for his own safety. He's tired of missing games. Well, that didn't last really because this last game against the Celtics he put up this crazy-ass dunk and I just think this is hilarious because this was so inevitable I saw this and I was like you can say you're not going to dunk anymore but once you get in that lane and you feel the the instant come back he's going to be he's still he's still going to dunk yeah we'll see if he tries to dunk on people right yeah that's a difference if yeah but if there's a wide open lane it's like do you know how

much space and how confident you have to be in your jumping abilities to do a reverse double bump in game. Ew. Ew. It's Rammot just sneezed up snout everywhere. That's disgusting. Oh, my God. I hope people can see that in his camera.

I had him smart and I was ice him up. Ew. He had a flee. He's in shambles. He's in shambles. I'm the only one that's not sick. I'm loving this. This is hilarious.

Oh, wow. I'm going to worry away to the best. Are you all seeing this? Are y'all seeing this? Chat, please tell me you guys can clip that and you can see it's not explode. I don't know. Yeah, his camera is real small, but that's funny. Wow.

Shout out John Moran Dunking. What a... Let's keep going with Adam for a little bit until he gets some substituted. Yeah. Oh, he's back. He did not watch. That's hilarious. Hey, Mo, give us a breakdown.

What just happened? I'm not like you. I washed my hands. He knows Ashley's hands out of the camera. Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa. That's not funny here. That's got cocoa butter on me at all. He just threw water on me.

Oh. Oh, fuck. I spray you up. Uh, man. Next news story. so somebody called Isaac Acorro fan club on Twitter said Brandon Ingram is a modern day Camelo Anthony

he puts up points somewhat efficiently but it rarely leads to wins Carmelo Anthony replied with a bunch of laughing emojis So this could either be one or two things He either thinks it's like hilarious to compare him to someone like Randy Ingram or he's like

bro my points were not empty A team would just ask I think he's probably laughing more at the latter The assertion that like he doesn't lead to wins which is like all right I mean he's not going to enjoy that comment

he's not going to enjoy that comment obviously but it's funny to imagine it's funny to imagine it's funny to imagine Isaac Akoro fan club is hilarious Isaac Akoro that's hilarious that's what it is

that's just guy should be fun for all the items in the goddamn nation what are you talking about hey man great defender a three point shot is really coming along

over the last couple years yes talk about it let's talk about it Yeah, let's not. Okay. You got it. Holy shit.

Yeah, it's just funny because the people were like focusing on the comparison of Brandon Ingram. Like that's what we're really upset, Carmelo Anthony. Yeah. And I think it's probably more the assumption that he can't win. That's probably what pissed him off more. Yeah. That's hilarious. Who's him on our day?

Carmelo Anthony just out of like, nobody. Probably Palo. It's not for you. Yeah, probably Palo. Yeah. You know, Melo's the whole thing was a mix of quickness and power. He used it in the high post. Palo Bencaro is a little more from the perimeter with today's game spread out a little more.

But I think if Palo came up in this time that Melo did, he probably also played in the high post like that. I will say, I saw a highlight tape the other day. There is some girl at LSU. I think her last name is Williams. She is Carmelo Anthony. Her, she had like a three, she scored like 32 points. I swear she was jab stepping, one dribble pull. like eight times she was killing them she is she is listen down in louisiana there's a brand new

carmelo anthony i think i think i've seen a couple hives from that game too all right we're our next news story before we get to that we read us some donations real quick shout out to big ball sandy for tipping five dollars he said happy to catch a stream after a while uh do you all have some who do you all have winning the warriors rockets cup game tomorrow it's gonna be a good one honestly i i think i'm thinking the rockets Rockets. Yeah, probably the Warriors, I'm different

time. I'm bucked the trend. I don't know. It's hard. Shout out to Kevin Guiliki for donating $25. He said, my next dose of TD3

after my car broke down today. Now I feel, now I need a new transmission. My car is like the Pelicans now. Should I name it Zion? Tough. Brother,

if you need a new transmission, basically that is not worth unless you got a super, super, super nice expensive car. It's definitely not worth it. Bobby does. I haven't heard. And shout out to zombie warlord

for tipping $10. Appreciate all you. Next news story. You know, last week we talked about on the ad main episode the biggest disappointing player from every single

NBA team. When we got to the 76ers, I think it was Moe who had him. He was like, we don't really got to talk about him. We don't got a harp on it.

Obviously we're disappointed that Joelle and B can't stay healthy. I said, hold on, let's talk about it a little bit because I talked about that I am scared

that we have finally reached the end of Joelle and Beatt's prime because of his health issues, that I'm kind of worried that we're done seeing elongated runs of Joelle and Beat healthy, averaging 35 points for game, being, you know, arguably the best player in the world for a regular season stretch. I worry that we're not going to see that anymore because all these lingering issues that are coming up post-Olympics. Well, he had a comment to Tim Bond temp's yesterday.

Joelle Embed says dealing with knee issues has been extremely depressing. There's no injury. Just between the swelling, we've got to get it figured out. I've been saying it for the last few months, but it's extremely depressing. I am most interested in those first three words. There is no injury. So he got out with like a clear something that happened on the court. He didn't sprain his knee, do something to his PCL, whatever. It's just wearing tear swelling. That is so concerning. Sounds like you know too much, Isaac. That is so concerning. Sounds like you'd be up under his bed at night with the fucking

jackhammer just pop every morning. And he's going to go, oh, it's pain out of nowhere, bro. That's what he's saying. He's saying it. No, it's sad. It's terrible. Yeah, it's messed up. And like, he scored 31 against the bulls the other day. And even then, like, he made some shots. You could tell just the way that he was moving as you got, like, you know, really into that game. Sometimes he would jump and I get nervous watching him, you know, like fall down or come back down to the ground.

That knee brace looks massive on his leg. It's crazy. If you're going to wear that big of a knee brace. just to, like, play 30, 35 minutes of basketball. At that point, it's not even worth it, though. It's not even worth it. Yeah, it's just really worrying. This is how it goes, man, with these players.

Like, eventually, first it starts off. There's some big injuries. They work through it. They come back. And eventually it's just constant buildup of small things. It's a point now where you're saying, it's not an injury. It's just swelling. Like, that's immensely concerning that you can't even handle it

without any structural damage. Just the regular wear and hair of being large is causing him issues that keeps them off the court. I've said it multiple times I feel like I always say it and it kind of feels just like I'm repeating myself and I am but like it's true LeBron Steph and KD

have tricked a lot of people into thinking that everybody can just play until the 35, 36 and everything is going to be fine where if you look at the history of big men throughout the league right even the ones who came into the league healthy it ends either quickly or it ends bad and for Joelle and Bid he didn't even play

his first year and a half two years because he was already hurt. The only reason why Joel wasn't the number one overall pick was because they were concerns about his meat. That's the only reason. He was one of the most talented, more talented guys in that draft. And it's,

listen, shout out to him that he's gotten an MVP out of this. Obviously, other stuff has prevented him from getting all the playoff success. But this is how it goes. He's seven feet tall, like 270. Dudes like that should not be moving around.

like that for a decade 12 year that stuff doesn't happen regularly and now we're here and it's going to be over pretty quickly someone in the comments says derrick roy's derrick rose 2.0 this is not even like derrick rose type situation because de rose like had a catastrophic injury multiple times and joiling beat injuries are just like nick neck he's never outside of his rookie year he's never actually been like an acal or like a ACL or toward meniscus or he's anything massive or major like that. Yes, he has had his injuries, fair share, he's plenty of them,

but never to that point in time. So I'm hoping that you and you, Isaac, and Joel Embedd, are wrong and eventually that pain and all those stuff withers away because it'll be so, so, so sad. I really don't want to believe as an NBA fan, like, fuck,

this is possibly some of the, I don't want to say the most talented integration of the affiliate of his 76ers in Joel and Bede, but this is one of the best rosters in lineups that they could have put together around him, And the second that they signed PG got an absolute steal in Jared McCain, like none of it matters because John B is just in his Jermaine O'Neill era.

It's more T.Mack's a best example. It's just it adds up and then eventually actually, actually it's like TMA if the writing was on the wall from the beginning. Like T-M-B didn't come into league with those issues like Joelle M. B did. But he had his dominant years and then eventually it was over because the body just gives up on you. happens a lot honestly James Hardin 12 years ago Duane Wade is the best example too

James Hardin tore his hamstring off the bone for the Nets and immediately the next year came back lost a step immediately granted he kept playing he was able to stand on the court but you know

one day he was a superstar next day he wasn't this happens a lot yeah so it's especially like football too football's even crazier oh yeah but yeah it's probably

it's probably over in terms of him being like top five MVP candidate there he's still so big and so talented and his jump is still so pure that he can still average like 24 25 a night you know like that's that's probably going to be where he's at but it's like the sixers are done and the bad part is that you you don't even

have time to let him get the knee under control y'all suck y'all at the bottom of the conference and you finally are in a space where you can put maxi and b and p and pg out on the floor together you have to take the opportunity you have to try and get wins and make up you know you're standing it's going to be by the time we get to also like it wouldn't shock me if we have another like you know joel and beat injury because that's just the way that it feels like it's going yeah yeah his career's not over he's still going to do good things eventually he'll have some healthy runs but the days of like MVP joel and bead i'm scared those might be done that's cooked uh don't bo's got another issue another another another snout we got a snoblin over here

while Moe's dealing with that you go ahead and fix your nose next new story FIFA and the NBA are in serious talks about starting a new league that could compete with the EuroLeague and top pro leagues in individual countries

this interest me interesting yeah the G League Ignite didn't work out but the idea of having another type of league that is either below the NBA or parallel to it in whatever fashion

but this time it being in Europe instead of it being a whole like amateur non-amature thing like the G-League Knight was, this interests me a lot. Yes, I agree. Because we got to figure out a way. And I feel like especially with the league being as deep as ever, right, all this,

all this talent comes in. One of the two things happening. And one thing that people talk about a lot in like G-League is that it's very, it's actually very hard for people to develop because everyone's in there, like, fighting for their life. And everyone is in there looking out for themselves. And so you're not going to get like team. basketball the same way that you get in the NBA and so if you can have that in this new league

and you can have a spot where young guys can go or guys who just need to get their career back on track and they can go and just figure stuff out and it still be really competitive that's that's super fun and if it gets going we start making all these leagues competitive we start getting this champions league popping yeah that's fun no bringing the best team from his league into the NBA Cup? It could be very interesting. No, yeah. You're cooking.

I agree. That'll be super itchy. That'll be super interesting. The Emirates NBA Cup. Less of respect our oil money overlords, the Emeritus NBA Cup. Shout up to the Knicks. Experience Abu Dhabi. He said, oh, you were there.

You had to throw them on yourself to post it up. But no, like, imagine you have. Go ahead. Go ahead. Let's just say it. No, just imagine you have the eight teams that make it at the group stage at the NBA Cup and then four teams from Europe come over for that to make a 12-team bracket. That could be very interesting.

Seeing the former NBA players, like be a part of that too will be super interesting seeing how they've like developed and grown. Just a couple of weeks ago during Lonzo Ball's podcast, he was talking to his brother and his brother's like, yeah, bro, like, I've been, I've been hooping. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, what happened? I just realized. You were cooking. You said the former players could be on this?

this is how we get Isaiah Thomas back on the team this is how we do it this is how we do it we need IT back this is how we get him in the NBA Cup how old is Isaiah Thomas I don't know 36 35 or so 36 I could be wrong I might no maybe 33 maybe 34 yeah all right 34 what should you guess Isaac 33 he is 35 damn damn wrong side of 34 We're mine. Yeah. Y'all seen me. He played, listen, he has stats for the 23, 24 season, 1.3 points per game, 0.5 assists, 30% from the field.

You know, there's a lot of... That spot is going to Leangel Ball. You know, there's a lot of player podcast that, like, sometimes you're like, oh, not that interested, whatever. I would very much like to see IT have a podcast. I feel like he has an interesting perspective that I'd like to hear. No, you're kind of cooking with that. a lot of. I was about to say something crazy. But IT is one of the few players. Yeah, IT will be one of the few players who've actually experienced so much, whether it be like being

a part of the early DeMarcus cousins era and being like in the perfect place to witness how players and coaches and just like stigmas around you build up to duking it up with LeBron James and Kyrie Irving, losing, of course, but still doing that, being empowered as the guy to like being impart as the guy to do your thing and now you're just like spare change spare change like type of energy someone said is blazing his short king oh my god you know who yuki is is iick you fan name too who yuki cares next thing we're going to talk about oh wow Orlando magic star franz wagner has suffered a torn right oblique and is out indefinitely sources out ESPN

bro what happened what did the orlando magic owners do this past summer what what bullshit have they been on to be cursed with this terrible luck this season no what makes with the same injury yes that's what they both tore their tummies what yeah they're right on the same on the same side the right side of their tummies both tore that's insane whatever trainer forgot to like stretch them out that day eyes are on you and you're losing a paycheck today yeah this is very annoying because Franz, Franz was going to be an all-star and we all love Franz. It was awesome to see him cook.

So the fact that this is potentially going to derail the entire All-Star campaign sucks. I have no idea. Yeah, I have no idea what the magic do. They can't do anything. And it sucks because they, the palli injury was supposed to be the only injury. That's supposed to be the only thing

that derailed their season and they made it through because everybody stepped up specifically Franz And now we get this And luckily for them And it's kind of the same thing that we said Whenever Palo went down The East sucks

So they still have a chance To come all-star break Whenever Palo gets hurt To make a push And do all that Now is Palo's turn though Because Franz goes And he you know

He gets player of the week He elevates himself Now is Palo's turn That whenever he returns Keep doing what you were doing Now you can go out and get 35 and 5 You know But now it's

sucks so is that like you want to see these two do it together and they officially can't until like towards the end of the season and at that point of time it's like well he'll be really valued in four weeks so maybe it'll be lucky and it won't be terribly serious and you can be back by like early February at the latest so it might not be end of the season but we'll see yeah so they're three and a half games up on Milwaukee for the eight seed right now right they have they have some some wiggle room there was that five and a half i think yeah they're five and a half games up on chicago for the tentee so they're not going to fall out of the play in um they they're probably whenever both of them come back they will most likely be in like the seven six range and that final

push is just going to see are you going to be in the playing or not but i'm this just sucks because we were right about both of them we were right about palo and him you know taking a leap offensively and he was looking good we were right about fronds and him returning to normal and being even better jalen sugg started off really really hot and now it's just like oh man like there's nothing left yeah we'll see right man that marks the end of the news stories he had today got those first 40 minutes of news out the way it's finally time for us to talk about the thing you guys are here for the thing you see in the title the part of the year we all come to love in NBA discourse it's time for trade season to officially begin we're five days five days away from our

when most NBA players can officially be traded after December 15th. Let's talk about it, man. We're going to start off with probably the biggest name of us in these rumors. Jimmy Butler. The Miami Heat are open to listen to trade offers for Jimmy Butler.

Butler is open to playing for the Dallas Mavericks, Houston Rockets, and Golden State Warriors. He wanted to be in Houston so bad, bro. He's from Texas, so he wants to go home. It makes sense. So, before we talk about what we want to see, so these three teams, Dallas Mavericks, obviously, they can't make that shit happen.

They don't got the money. He threw them in there just to not single out the Rockets too much, I think. Rockets and Warriors both make a lot of sense. What do you guys think about those two? For the Warriors, it's exactly what they need. You just need some more juice offensively. And we've said it the whole year. I'm glad for them.

They are winning games, right? They are much better than what we thought. But now that Buddy Healed is like kind of come back down to Earth and been more of the player. that we thought he was going to be, now you have to make up that, like, hot shooting. And now you have to see how can you play whenever Steph isn't there, whenever he's on the bench. And Jimmy Butler, while he's not like, you know, he's not obviously like Clay Thompson, he's

not going to be running around the whole time. He is a guy who can play a very, like, connective style of basketball and keep the ball moving. And he would be interesting, especially if he's taking over Jonathan Kaminga's spot. Yeah. You know, like that would, that would be the plus for me. you can actually get an impact player there rather than comminga. So I like it. I like it for the Warriors.

Yeah. It's also reported a couple of days ago that they are in the hunt for a second star for Curry. That was a pretty clear like from the front office report that was probably to appease Curry and Dremont Green because they need it. So they'll definitely be in the mix trying to get this happened, I think. Yeah, I agree. They've been in the mix for a little minute now, maybe like over a year or so looking for a third star. or second star, whatever you want to phrase it, alongside Curry. I remember during the offseason, they were in conversations with the Utah Jazz.

Jeremy Green was like, they're asking for entirely too much. You guys want everything, the whole house, they want a part of my contract. They want pods? They said, pods, go to hell. So now I think Jimmy's a perfect way. Yeah. This is my favorite warrior straight target. I want them to get Jimmy Butler.

I think at this point you don't want Jimmy Butler to go to a team where he asks to carry a big scoring load I think he's shown with his play this year he doesn't want to do that

in fact he refuses to do that he will not take a lot of shots especially in the regular season he's going to be a playmaker he's in a pick his spots keep the offense moving and do Draymond green

ish things offensively and I think having Draymond green next to Curry is awesome the only thing better could be having another Draymond green type of playmaker

that can help set up Curry you could use Jimmy Butler in a short role in the exact same way when Dremont's on the bench, you have another reversal defender. You know, Jimmy's not what he once was, but if he's focusing even less on scoring

because Curry's there, I imagine he can have a good defensive system in place there. You have Wiggins, Butler, Dremont, even at Butler's old stage, that could be fucking filthy. And obviously he can give them another scoring punch playing off of Curry in that system. Yeah, I like that.

And I like it for all the reasons that you said, but also more so just because I don't, I don't love it for Houston. Because, one, I need to, to know who's like who's going out because i don't think that houston should like overpay for for jimmy bowler and like this is going to be some like consolidation thing but it can be like they they still have a lot of guys that they have to that they have to figure out and they still are like developing and i i know that they're playing really well do y'all feel like the rockets have

a chance to get to the conference finals this year do you feel like they're in that part of their development not entirely too soon Yeah, I think, yeah, but. Best case scenario for them. But I think if they're Jimmy Butler, they might have a chance. Yeah, I think that's super fair to say. As is as a team, their ceiling is second round. Absolute max.

That's it. And that's like a huge, that's a huge accomplishment within itself. I think they're in the stage right now. I was, I'm going back in time a little bit. I was the absolute lowest on the Houston Rockets when I came to, when it came to our preseason predictions. And to see them even this good right now. was insane to me and now like being someone who's loudly wrong

about the Houston Rock because I want to see them write it out and like see what these guys look like in the playoffs that way you just gave more information about your young core because all the information that we've not all the information about them has been wrong you know like there's a jailing green thing that's still like in the air but I think the Rockets right now

will be confusing if this is a move for them like next year sure makes sense I think it would be smart to do right now Jimmy Miller is an expiring deal he's a rental he's a rental He's going to test free agency, so I don't think he'll be expensive. I think you don't give up any of your great young players, but I think you can give up Cam Whitmore, if that's what it takes.

Cam Whitmore, a first-round pick and celery filler. Like, it won't cost more than that, I don't think. No one's going to be out here getting up a crazy thing. Like, the Warriors aren't giving up all their young core for Jimmy Butler for 35-year-old on a half a season, and then maybe resigning at a big number for a 35-year-old. It won't cost a whole lot. So I don't know on top of my head who their salary filler is. I can't remember.

it's probably Dylan Brooks maybe Stephen Adams I don't remember what he's being paid and then Whitmore and probably a first round pick that's cool you can start

Jimmy Butler and Dylan Brooks spot so you have the same starting lineup you don't got a bench in the green yet you can see if Jimmy Buller helps him

and then you can have some bench lineups with shooter A let's call it Reed Shepard Amen Butler, Tari and Jabari at center so you really like

Jimmy Butler cook with Amen Thompson both on doing room pressure that's exciting to me I think that's a move that makes sense for them they're too good to be thinking about they can't waste the season like they they are in a position to be a good team and if you can be a young team that you can make a legit run the playoffs that's valuable if it's going to be as cheap as you think it would be then it's 100% worth it just get like get rid of the consolidating and get rid of pieces that really have no space for you on your team so it can win more 110% makes sense in my mind i'm thinking like uh like dylan brooks of course 110% makes make sense because he's so replaceable but in my mind i'm just like uh what they want would they want would they want to like someone like jalen green I'd say that Jayling Green's on like Jimmy Bowler's double

because it's not, but there's like a specific synergy that he has with Stangoon that you don't want to disrupt too too much in terms of like it's cutting and also the shit. Yeah, if you get rid of Jeline Green you need another off the dribble shooter and that's not really Jimmy Buller at this point so I agree that we shouldn't do that. But I don't think it would cost that.

I think they could get them with a much smaller package because who out there is going to make be a huge bidder for Jimmy Butler's services right now? Honestly, yeah, I don't know. I really don't know because I maybe, actually I do know, like, Jimmy still has enough of, like, name value and he still is, like, a good player to help you play winning basketball. I just think, like, the age and the clear decline is kind of worrying to me, especially if you don't get, if you don't get

any type of, like, sense of, okay, he's going to resign, I wouldn't do it. And it probably, like, if you're making this deal, it happens all the time. There probably is going to be some understanding of like all right you get traded here you know we'll give you the contract in the off season do all that that or that now so it shouldn't be that bad yeah and i think you can scale into a later role as you get older too i think he can play a smaller role oh absolutely absolutely i hundred i hundred seven percent agree two teams one of them are the los angeles lakers how do you feel about that possibility as because with how cheap dream brother is he's definitely attainable for the lakers he sees the right star the lakers have been struggling with defense so i mean

one, he's not going to fix a defense. This isn't that Jimmy Butler anymore. So that's not going to be a thing. Yeah. I think it'd be, I mean, so if there's no context that matters, you don't got to use any logic, any salary cap, nothing of sense. Jimmy Butler with LeBron and AD is kind of cool.

They could use the toughness. They could use that, you know, creation. But he makes $40 million. And we're entering exactly the mean situation here. We talk about him going to Lakers, where you're going to have to give up like four players from an already lacking of depth team. it would take Dilo, Rui,

Gabe Vincent, and Jalen Hutchifino to get to that, which, not to say those are great players, you know, but losing even more depth for a 35-year-old isn't exactly the way to fix a team that has no depth. And outside of Gabe Vincent, Miami doesn't want Dilo. Pat Ryland is like, fuck you, go to hell, bro. He's talking like, he's not.

Exactly. Yeah, they've watched the last two weeks of basketball, and you think that for everything that Pat Riley stands for, he's going to be like, yeah, those are heat-culture guys. He rubbed his hands? He doesn't, exactly, he doesn't want that. Yeah, and be fair, somebody, somebody could take that if the picks were there. But the Lakers, the Lakers gave up one of their two picks that are very good future picks

for a goddamn 35 old Jimmy Butler for half the season. I would lose my fucking mind. I'd rather get Zach Levine. You'd have to write. You'd have to write against the Laker. I'd have to be a Clippers fan. I'd have to just switch sides. Oh, don't say that.

I'm lying. I'm lying like shit. I'm lying. I'm lying. All right. What about the Minnesota Timberwolves? They have pieces. to go ahead and can Julius Randall be traded this year?

I believe so. Maybe, yeah. Okay. Yeah, the only time people can't be traded. People only can't be traded whatever they sign extensions. I think you can be traded if you just got traded. There's no like thing like that. Okay, cool.

Yeah. So what do you guys think about the Minnesota's and rules? Again, in a vacuum, don't hate it. Don't love it for Miami. I don't like the idea of Bam and Julius Randall together. yeah that is true i don't i don't i don't i don't like it and i'm not trying to i listen julius's vibes have not been amazing and so if you're miami part of the reason why you know you don't as hands i'm in the background still being like a player's coach or shit like he'll put

him in check if anybody i we'll see we'll see but he's going to need like yodontas haslam is going to have to talk to him every single every five minutes because the vibes this year have been awful and so they end up trading him there and like Like, it's not a, do you, do you feel comfortable with Julius Randall and Bam as you're, as you're starting, like, front quarters for the next three years? It's better than Julius and Rudy, but it's not like, it's not game breaking. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think it's prevented in the future.

Chat, where do you guys want to see? Before we move on, chat, where do you guys want to see Jimmy Butler go? You guys spam that. I'm in recent donations while you spam us, what you think will respond. Shout out to Danny D. Alcanter for tipping $5 if you appreciate you. He said Jimmy and Dramont together. They might make Steph star. up that'd be hilarious start stuff he gets even more cocky uh shout out to my sunshine for tipping

five dollars he uh since you guys didn't address it what are your thoughts on when draymond turned into prime lebron and scored on gobert i think gobert saw his number one off and wanted to make a point and it was hilarious yeah it was awesome jermon yeah jermon green had his hate his heart is full of hatred and whatever you saw he was isolated into rida gobert taking that hop step dribble like that I knew he was going to be some... There was no way he was passing the ball. He was jumping like Palo Ben Carole. Yeah, what's hilarious?

He was how he did the night night celebration too. He was like... He was high. Awkward. Yeah. He was sleeping on his wrist. He was on. And shout out to Bias Bucks fan for tipping $3.

Appreciate you, man. He said, first off, love from Austria. Finally got to catch a live stream. Don't want to bring MVP topic back. But why is no one talking? talking about my player, just getting free buckets off of Yokish's defense. Poundtunish treated him like a little girl. There was a shout out Valcunus and his 15 points.

That was wonderful. That was his game was disgusting. He'd be doing that sometimes. He does. He's a bucket. So what he does. Professional score. That's why he's paid.

Yeah. But okay, getting to chat now. You guys are spamming up teams. I've seen a lot of pistons in here for Jimmy Butler. Interesting. I'm seeing a lot of Spurs. I don't say Spurs. Yeah.

Spurs is somewhat interesting. Okay. That's cool. But listen, he also said in his thing He wants to be on a contender That was part of his whole thing So I imagine the Spurs traded for him Unless it just goes really great

And he loves Wembe And they have some craziest energy Over the last three months of the season Maybe not a lock to resign there Could you imagine anything more annoying Than walking in and having to work With Chris Paul and Jimmy Butler Like

Those two guys Someone's always laughing their gums Exactly with the energy That both of them bring Just every day it's going to be something That would be kind of awesome though for Wemby being able to like he's he's already like a little bit of an asshole he has that cocky side to whom but like already getting learning all the little tricks and trades of dog that Chris Ball

has also learning the dog from Jimmy Butler like I kind of like that should we just get all the dogs in the world in San Antonio yes surround Wemby with dogs the fucking you know for the past 15 years you get you get LeBron you surround him with shooters that's the formula to win wemby the formula is wemby plus dogs as many as you can get put them out there let's go get Dylan Brooks too all the dogs go to Wemby. Mark is smart. You are a San Antonio Spurs. Get your ass back from Israel.

Come play for the Spurs. He can stay over there. It's all good. Yeah, fuck I'm saying over there. In my mind, if I'm Jimmy Buller, I would actually entertain somewhere like the San Antonio Spurs because it seems like a two-year plan. I think it would be insane for us to look up one day next year

and be like, oh my God, like the Spurs are a top two or three seed. just because of how monstrous Wembe's development potentially projecting could be all outside the development and everybody else and the Spurs getting more average of a players on their roster. Hey man, let's get him to the Hawks. Hawks.

In theory, he would be good. Longerbiltry, dude, look, look who our GM is. No, no, it would go against the type. Exactly. Londry fields would not let that happen. He would look at him and be like, you don't look like me. Get out of my office. It's a charity!

Dude, their shit is hilarious. I hope one day we can talk to a Hawks player to be like, when you're watching the broadcast, yeah, we're at it. We need to, we need to. I'm noticing. Is there any issue with recognition? Let's talk about the next player.

The next huge name, probably the second biggest name in Tracy's and besides Jimmy Butler. Rob Polinka is expected to check in on Jonas Valchunis in five days for Anthony Irwin. League sources believe Poling but check in on the price for Jonas Valchunis

when he becomes trade-aleligible and the belief in the league is that the Wizards will be open to those conversations. Hey yo, y'all still got Jonas. And yo, y'all still got Jonas. So embarrassing. This is such an inevitability.

He will be a Laker. If I can put it in ink, he is a Laker, and I'm not going to like it even a little bit. You just said he was a bucket. We don't need a big man bucket. We need a big man defender that has some feet on him.

this man is molasses he is just not the top player I want to see granted if it's just like Gay Vincent and like two second round picks fine it's probably better than having Gabe Vincent who has given us

absolutely nothing fine he's taking more than giving it correct it still makes me annoyed because they could have had him for free agency

but they just snooze because Polinka was busy chasing Clay Thompson so they could have him for free they really want this guy so to give up picks for him is a disgusting thing to do in principle

it's ridiculous asset malpractice And again, I've already mentioned, don't want him, period. He's not that good for this team. But if it's just Gabe Vincent, I guess I'll live. You should be happy. You should throw something on the grill. If you get Gabe Vincent- Happy birthday, John.

Oh, hey, shout-out John. Yeah, if you get Gabe Vincent off the roster. Who's John? Someone said it was his birthday, but maybe he's funny. Who knows? Happy birthday, John. If you're telling the truth. If you're lying, don't never do that.

Yeah, you're dead to me if you're lying. Better be your birthday, John. You better send me the birth certificate. Prove it. Why you send him to birth? Send me the Social Security. I bring it right back. Oh, man.

But yeah, listen, everything that like Polinka's doing, you just can't, you can't look at it in a serious light. Because at this point, the, at this point, the, the Lakers are cooked. He doesn't move in a serious way for GMs. Like, there was a, the move that he had made to give. get like Delo and all that stuff. Everyone was like, wow, like Rob Plinkey, he did a really good job. You messed up the first time.

You fixed your mistake. Yeah. Right? You brought it, you brought in Russell Westbrook, and that is how you got off of the deal. You ruined a year and a half of this team because you were just not on top of your job doing the smart thing. And it took you, honestly, too long into the season. I'm surprised that the Lakers even got that far in the first place.

That's a crazy turnaround in that amount of time. But Polinka doesn't, every, every offseason. he does something where you're like yeah what is he doing like why would he do that so uh john the same guy saying his birthday in the chat said i get called unc for listening to podcast that is the most 13 year old sentence i ever read in my fucking life listening to the podcast is unc mode that's crazy yeah that's a different era different era i remember one time i was early listening to podcast before it was like super mainstream i don't know if i ever told the story on the episode but one time before all y'all yeah one time

I was listening to him in class and my headphones popped out and it was playing out loud it was a talk show it was sports radio it was a I think it was probably Bill Simmons

or maybe it was first take listened an audio version and my teacher was like are you listening to the radio and everybody started laughing at me she exposed me and everyone started laughing at me radio is such a crazy

he's not embracing debate I was like you don't get it it's Max Kellerman he's spitting and have the Kyrie Irving debate again that's what inspired this villain to this day what's teacher's name I don't remember any of my high school teacher's names

oh man that's crazy you were not paying attention to for real what was your high school GPA I don't even probably like 3.8 or something I don't know something normal that's good that's good next news story

regarding trades per Anthony Irwin again another Lakers insider Brony James would likely be included in any deal involving LeBron James sources close to Lakers said if LeBron James asked the Lakers to trade him they would work with him to find a deal

that lands him where he'd rather be but also brings back the kind of return that would jumpstart or rebuild. If LeBron James was traded does also believe Brony would have to be part of the deal. I'm not talking about this foolishness, man. I'm joking. I'm joking.

I'm not here to discuss. But the part of this report that is relevant is that he did also report that they're open to train LeBron if he wants to go. They're not going to, Rich Paul is not going to block it like last year. If they

want to make a trade, they'll work together. Interesting. Interesting. If it's not Cleveland, I don't want to have the conversation. It's a point of it if it's not Cleveland. What about, I mean Golden State tried to get them last year and they're still in the hunt for a star. I don't want to see it. I don't want to see it.

I don't want to see. I mean, it would be fun. I kind of like. Obviously. But it's like, come on, man. Like, at a certain point in time, I hate to be sound like one of these guys, but I never. need to see the bonus of curry like actually playing NBA basketball we're the same you guys are supposed to be you guys say this sleep wearing that bro you guys say this shit now as

soon as it happens and we have one game of Olympic basketball vibes and it's all glorious and we see the goats of our generation clapping it up laughing together you guys are going to buy in the you're immediately going to enjoy it no i'm clapping up because we're smacking these all these other teams and countries bro they win a ring together that's so cool i don't care like they are not winning a championship they very well could they could definitely win it, they got LeBron? No, they cannot. Listen, you can go, you can go and put them together, and you can beat up Serbia and Angola and Croatia. You can beat up all those teams. They had to come back down from 17, right? LeBron had to turn it on for like two weeks and really, really

like get hyped up, but they're not winning an NBA title. That's not happening. And this is, this is a problem with NBA fans. You're greedy. Understand, kick rocks. You don't, need everything. You don't need every fan fiction Reddit post to come to life. Just be happy that you saw LeBron, Steph and KD play on Olympic basketball team and keep it moving. Because

the moment that your goats get bounced into playing, you're going to be sitting there and be like, dang, they went out sad. And nobody's going to care about the fact that it was fun. We don't need to see this. It's not just fan fiction. They tried to do it last year. It's very

realistic. If LeBron decides he's done with the Lakers, I guarantee you the Warriors are going to swoop in and try to get them. It's not just fanfic. This could very well happen. You're desperate. If it happens. And your desperation stinks. Get it away from you.

I don't like it. I don't like it. I don't like it. I'm peasants. I don't. I'm not with it. It'll just be super embarrassing if they don't win at all. Like, I don't want to see it unless they win at all.

That's the only issue. Would it be that embarrassing? I mean, I get why you say that. I understand. Yeah. I get it in like, principle. But listen,

Donovan just said he doesn't expect them to win. So I don't think it would be, they wouldn't be an overwhelming favorite. So I don't think it would be that embarrassing. These old men didn't win. Like, it wouldn't be shocking. Like,

if Donovan already immediately thinks they can't win. I don't, I mean, I don't say that. I say that, but you're probably right. They probably would still get slandered despite it being,

you know, at this point, you just, if your guys are not winning together, you all just wouldn't be cute together. Someone said, some of the chats said, Mo is so bored.

He's examining his earlint. It's not my earland, bro. If I'm examining anything, my head is pounding right now in this fucking air problem. Oh, shit. That's what I was doing. God damn it.

No, we're good. We're good. We're good. We're good. It's championship. If you get LeBron and Seth Curry on the same team, it's championship or bust,

whether if it's fair or not, and for their sake, you're not going to win title so okay just go ahead and question and fiction if lebron was to ask for a trade and like demanded it cleveland or nothing if you are who was leaving again is it dan gubernusel i hope not dan go bers he still owns it are you going to potentially sacrifice a year maybe two years of what you have built so far for like when you trade lebron danes for something like Evan Mowgli and whatever.

No, it would not cost Evan Mowgli. It wouldn't cost that much. What would it cost? Now would I trade Jared Allen? Probably. Probably. It would cost Alan and some of the stuff. Yeah, but he would be the piece.

Chad, what do you guys want to see? Where do you guys want to see LeBron James? If LeBron James requests a trade, which right now is not super likely, but it's not an impossibility, where did you guys want to see him go, chat? Because, you know, I see a lot of teams being flutter around in Twitter comments. Obviously, Warriors pop up, Cavs pop up. I see some people say Grizzlies,

which could be interesting. Now, do I think LeBron's going to go to the Grizzlies? No. No. LeBron's probably want to go to a big market. I don't think it's impossible. It's not impossible, but it's possible.

Don't you ever send LeBron James to Memphis, Tennessee. Yeah, what are we doing? What are we doing? You live in Los Angeles, California. You live in one of the most desirable cities in the country and now you have to go and start jukeing with Duke deuce in Memphis.

I'm not, no, stop that. See, I don't want to in Memphis. A big market shill. See, it's not, when it comes to Memphis, I don't care about that. When it comes to the top of the top, right, the most famous people, yes, I don't want to see them. If they're making a transition, no, I don't want to see them in those places. I do.

I just worried about my words. She's running around like a maniac right now in this room. pick her up no she's going crazy she's a maniac she looks insane she's on the hunt but cats are so agile they have the zinis it's over yeah she ran between my camera tripod between the legs i was like oh shit i'm knock it over but she knows that her run and she's agile as hell like you said so it's no worry how old is she in her prime right now so enjoy that shit bro she has fresh legs she's gonna be over yeah exactly she got like maybe two three more years left and then she's done for when it comes to happen the zinis

you name you name her yeah oh yeah what's the name update? Confidential. Buh. No, actually, I haven't picked the name yet. Somebody said Orlando for LeBron. Okay, but realistically, you don't want to single the Warriors. You don't want to see him go the Grizzlies.

If you request a trade, where do you want to see him go? Yeah. I'm home. Yeah, I'm from the Cavs. This is a dude, his kid's life is literally storybook, bro, and it needs to end perfectly. If it goes, if he goes anywhere, other than Cleveland, I will be mad and I'll be upset. And I will, it was just not sour his career or whatever, but it just wouldn't feel right whatsoever. People are over here saying, someone spamming the Celtics for some reason.

Other folks are over here spamming like, I saw the Knicks. That would be absolutely disgusting too. Knicks would be cool like two trades ago. Now they've done way too much. Like now it's impossible. But I don't know. I mean, it is weird. Like it's so hard to imagine him going somewhere not by his own will.

you know like lebron being trade doesn't make sense and maybe maybe he wants to go like finish his career and like have being able to say I was never traded so maybe it won't happen I don't know it's people were talking about it and I think none of Minnesota oh god he would hate that cold weather bro

what well since we're just picking cities yeah send him lebron and aunt would be one of just from like a pure off court social media entertainment perspective that would be an elite duo that would be cool if he was going to go anywhere to go anywhere i don't want to other than cleveland for me i want to put

him in san antonio put him alongside wendy like i want to see lebron give him all the jewels all the gems past the torch of like one truly generational player to another and also he needs to play with chris paul before he retires to be his best friend track like that yeah here's the he has to pick he has the pick between luca and wembe and whoever lebron goes to that's going to be the the future goat he has to knight them yes to know he has to be he has to hilarious. Yeah, we need to have like a ceremony

half court. It's a night and he's like, he's like, the league is yours now. That's amazing. We're moving by the next name. Per Shams, Herb Jones and C.J. McCollum are receiving interest

on the trade market. I don't care so much about C.J. McCollum trades. But Herb Jones is interesting as hell. Obviously last year he had, he was the best premier defender in the league last year. He was a one-man defensive unit,

wrecking everybody. them to a top 10 defense despite having a lot of lackluster defensive talent around him, he could swing the title odds, like, individually. Well, I don't know why, neither here or there is, this is not, I guess this is not the conversation for why the New Orleans Pelicans want to trade someone like Herb Jones when he seems like,

you know why. Like a song, why? I don't know why, actually. You don't have full faith in Zion. I think, I think, I think, I'm going to do with Herb Jones. Because if you don't have full faith in, because if you don't have full faith in Zion, It's what I got to do with her. Then you tear everything back.

Why does Herb got to move? Because Zion gets hurt a lot. Because we have to restart clearly the plan. Like Herb Jones is a player that like impacts winning right now. And you know that if you trade him and you don't do what the Bulls did, yeah, if you do the opposite of what they did and wait. And so their value was at the absolute lowest and you actually get a good return on Herb, it can set you up for the future.

That's why you do it. have a proposition to send him to one of these light-skinned point guards put him in charlotte or you can put them in send him to indiana row let him play alongside someone like tyree's house indiana indiana needs indiana's so broken right now man i don't know what i love it i don't know what they need they need a lot i saw i mean i don't know if they have the power they probably get out bid but man if the dallas maver should somehow get him up they fucking lagged out look at that bit as soon as i get my shit off y'all chat they fucking lag out let me get them back in this goddamn stream labs we wait for them to come back okay here they are nah no way we're both out there we're yeah we're out yeah we're out you guys you're good now well yeah we're both out yeah

you're good now this guy doesn't like us it's fucking stream labs man this glitchy shit but anyways before you guys rudely fled the scene I don't know they can get this done but if the Dallas Mavericks could get their hands on Herb Jones they would have the perfect roster

they'd win a title yeah they'd be they'd have have no flaws. Again, I don't think they can do it. They'd get outbid by somebody, probably the Memphis fucking Grizzlies, we just talked about LeBron. I dream of seeing Herb Jones and PJ Washington lock up next to Luga Donchich. No, that's, that's an immediate impact right there type of thing. And that'll, I don't want to say solidify it to the NBA final because okay, so you still exist. Yeah, you know, and the nuggets are the nuggets or whatever. Yeah, I'm over them. Man, oh man, this shit would recoup so much shit for them. I'd say they've

lost anything but yeah i would love to see them yeah honestly you could put herb jones on any team there would be a bidding war and every single contender will want him so take your pick of who you want to give a three and d wing to it'll make sense mckell bridges for herb jones straight up wow ew who do you think we say no to that herb jones probably both both ships say no no one should say no too what about cj mccallum are you guys interested in a c jac mccallum trade nope maybe a little bit I think C.J. McCollum, I like, C.J. McCollum for the last couple years, has done his job and has been a very true professional. He's been able to mold his game and to give him the pelicans, you know, more of what they need. Is he perfect? No. Should he be your number one offensive option at this point in his career? Absolutely not.

But if he goes somewhere where they just need some more offense, yeah, I'd be okay with that. I got the perfect place for you. C.J. McCollum, put him on the bench potentially starting, depending on how you view this two. guard currently playing for them right now. Put them on the Detroit Pistons. Their defense has been actually like okay. Their offense has continuously been in the mud. Kay Cunningham's average in like 25, 8 and 7 or something crazy like that so far this year. I love Jada and a great player, but the shooting still needs to be drastically improved. And I don't think, I think what they need to do is focus on, you know, how much better can we make this offense rather than trying to muster up this defense that lacks talent in specific areas.

So I think CJ are coming off the bench or potentially starting alongside some of the arcade. That makes sense. Okay. Okay. Next set of names we have. The Brooklyn Nets are open to trading Cam Johnson,

Dwayne Finney Smith, and Dennis Schrooter. The Golden State Warriors. The Golden State Warriors are interested in all three players. That's a dream. Dude, the depth that the Warriors fans are like screaming and yelling about, ah, Kyle Anderson, ah, the Anthony Melton,

ah, GP2. and all these boys. Like, they are who, they, they think they're the Brooklyn Nets in terms of, like, the long line of the lanes that they have. Dennis Schroederer, to go to St. War, it would be genuinely fantastic because he could close so many lineups and games alongside Stefan Dremont. Cam Johnson can fit on any teams. Same can be said about DSF, too, so seamlessly.

Cam Johnson excites me, Derek. Cam Johnson would do a lot to make, if they're not going to trade Jonathan Caminga, which right now it seems like they're starting him, trying to pump up his value a little bit, do a classic trade deadline pump and dump if they don't do that and they keep him yeah literally yeah they're running a scam coin if they don't do that and they keep john the kaminga and they keep starting him and trying to like empower him to be the second star that they really need him to be cam johnson if you can get him without giving up kuminga that's a really nice fit he could really help open up that paint for kaminga yeah i think if they're not going to go and get the wars have

to make a move like they can't stay they can't stay solid with what they have and And if you're going to strike out on, on Jimmy, on Lowry this offseason, go ahead, start just fully leaning in. Like most said, fully leading into the depth that you say that you have and go get camp. Do you think the Nets would be interested in Michael Porter, Jr.? Michael Porter, Jr. Do they want him on their roster, like for a rebuild, like to have him there? I think he's a solid vet or could turn into a solid vet. I don't know what he provides, like, off the court.

But in terms of on the court, being a dude who's just like productive in shooting, yes, he could be valuable. I'm not, I'm not sure. I think if you're, if you're the Nets, especially since you have like all of your picks moving forward, let's get as bad as possible. Yeah. So like have employ some like MPJ similar to Kyle Kuzma as your number one option and you're going to get as bad as possible. I promise you. I can assure you the trash. Yeah, I can see that being a three-team deal.

Maybe they ship out Michael Poor Jr. who seems like he's going to be the fall guy because Jamal Murray's value is at an all-time low. It seems like they're going to might have to trade Michael Porter Jr., which a lot of Nuggets fans don't want to see because he's playing real well. But maybe you try to send him out for some picks and kind of break it up to get like maybe Cam and Dorian Fitzsmith, Cam and Dennis Ruter, like turn into two players

since they really need as many good players they could possibly get. Man, get Jamal out of here for this time. Hey man, if you can get Jamal for Cam and Dennis, that would be a dove. But this one, you can't sell low on Jamal. It's a hard time to move them That'll be tough Apparently that's just how the Nuggets operate

At this point With sell low Yeah They're to just They're to sell a low They're with the being cheap So they probably look at that balance sheet And be like oh okay

It's actually not bad Okay Well that's all the biggest names In the first round of trade rumors There's some Kyle Kuzman noise Some showbuzzers player noise But we don't got to talk about That up today

Because What we're going to do now is We're going to do a draft talk to me the first live stream draft in a few weeks y'all I'm glad for everybody they hear are stuck through to the very end of the stream

I appreciate you you rewarded with some TikTok time we're going to do a draft and today we're going to do a build a player draft which we haven't done in a few weeks and we're going to build players with skills from only players

who are selected number one overall in the NBA draft okay very specific yep okay you guys know how it works we got body shooting defense playing making finishing you pick one skill from each player a player can't get picked twice the only

category is you got to be pick number one overall okay so the draft order is mojo me donovan with that being said let's build the perfect NBA players with only people who are selected number one overall mo every one person crown eaters this is my flu game i'm doing this for you give me the best 23 to ever do it lebron james body oh okay the most athletic player in the entire history of the league. Hey, Donovan. I need his versatility and flexibility. Go to hell.

I'm picking the guy. You want me Victor Wembaugh body. He always goes to win me every single time. Yeah, kick rock. He's mine. I knew exactly where he was going to go and that's okay. Now, with my... You know what?

Let's do this. Let's do this. From my body, let's go Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. Okay. My defense, Hakeem Olajuwon. okay that's nice and standard that's what I expected okay cool cool I'm gonna go with Magic Johnson passing gave me the game working skill I don't know how we didn't

pick him already yeah that sucks you got me if you have Magic Johnson passing with Wemby's height and vision dimes and then give me Kyrie Irving shooting okay okay I'm off the dribble shooting with that height okay I like that I like that I like that a lot. That is very dangerous. Kyrie Irving, a lot of people don't think of him as like, whenever we talk about like the best, most elite shooters in the entire NBA,

no one ever mentions Kyrie simply because he don't shoot it from, he is one of the best shooters, period. Yeah. Okay. And he shoots three, he's plenty. He has a 40% three-point shot. Yeah, exactly. Oh, wait, I'm in the middle.

I can't pick twice. Why did I pick twice? I'm in the middle. Oh, yeah. Oh, wait. Okay, cool. Okay, cool. Oops. Out of here.

Oops. Chat reminded me. I don't know. I just about a brain fart. Good job, chat. Because I completely forgot. I don't know how he fell to me. Nah, I'm not feeling for it just yet.

I'm not feeling for it just yet. I don't know how he felt to me, but I'm going to go ahead and take it. Finishing ability of Shaquille O'Neal. I need that. Yeah, I mean, Shaq's body is the real valuable point, I think. Nah, bro. If I have sex efficiency at the rim and his ability,

just to put the ball in the rim. You should LeBron size, and he's going out to dribble. You know, Shaq's not, like, driving to the rim like that. That's fine, though. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, I'm still. I'm still frying, you guys. What are you talking about? He still putting nuts in faces.

Yeah, exactly. If LeBron simply just had... Just imagine LeBron just times 10, and I'm straight. All right, what's the next pick? Next pick, bro. All right. Next pick. Okay, so I got playmaking, defense, and shooting.

I really, really, really want to match Johnson. I hate that he didn't fall to me, but it's okay. Get fucked. So... In terms of shooting, actually, yeah, I'm just going to take your pick. Give me Carrie Irby. Go for it. This guy.

Man, can I think of a little shooter. Three point shot, all that. Yeah, he's, I think he's generally the best, like, number one of world pick, like, shooter now that I think about it. Okay. I want a high flyer finish. I want a high flying finisher in Wemby's body. Give me a Blake Griffin's finishing. Okay.

Okay. Webby driving dunks catching lobs like that? Okay Okay Donovan Can I interest you in one Zachary Richessier Go to hell

For my shooting I guess I'm just I'm just bidding up big For my shooting I would like The big bodega Carathy Towns Oh

predictable I knew you were going there And still You let me have it I didn't want it We're going there We're finishing actually no

I want to be able to play make Give me prime Ben Simmons Oh okay Pre back injury Simmons I respect it Yes Well I would simply like

Protect the greatest defender of all time Give me Tim Duncan That's solid That's solid Okay I need defense too But it's not necessarily a priority For me right now

Because you Well yeah You know what actually speaking of defense let me go ahead and get someone like Anthony Davis I can guard the inside and also the outside

okay that's fair and then I'll have but his 80 defense is that impressive if he's not his size you know he's a little smaller with LeBron also we're flying you we're frying you your team you're playing in one universe you have a lot you have some big men skills on LeBron's body

it's just like a smaller version of it LeBron's a big man, bro. What are you talking about? Okay. Never less. Never less. Go ahead. Six, nine, two, 50.

He's versatile, bro. Okay. Go ahead. And for playmaking, you guys saw magic. You guys took Ben Simmons away from me. The only thing that makes sense as a now, give me the Dougie King John Wall. Okay.

I could do you up not only on the court, but off the court too. Put me in a dance better right now. You got Ben Simmons, Donovan, for your playmaking. You won't be able to do shit against me. You're back. It's Tuesday. You should put me in a dance battle? I specifically said

prime Ben Simmons. He still can't dance at that point. Okay. I don't know if he's going toe to toe with John Wall on the dance floor. I'm not going to lie. He's probably not. Yeah, let's give respect

for credit we're credits to do. Give me somebody who newly added a 40-point who newly added a 40% three-point shot to their bag. Give me Anthony Edwards shooting. You suck. Give me that man. I thought he slid.

I was going to take it for finishing because I was going to have this that's why I was happy I was happy to give you cat for shooting because I knew Ant Man was waiting for me okay you're the worst man the worst you know it's okay we're just we're just gonna go full big man here and with finishing give me Superman 2.0 Dwight Howard okay that's fair it's a high Lifeline Dunker. I respect it. Lobman. Chat, who wins? I'm going to do a poll.

We haven't done a poll in a while, actually. I kind of forget polls exist. This might be the greatest big man of all time. Only second to my big man. Green, cat shooting, Akeem. You got to get big man. Ben Simmons' playmaking ability.

Okay. I like it. So for audio listeners, my player is Victor Womenyama's body, Anthony Edwards shooting. Audio listeners. Yeah, people listen this in Spotify after. Tim Duncan defense

That's y'all on Spotify I know Mo's over here Disregarding your lived experience Unbelievable Playmaking Magic Johnson And Blake Griffin finishing My player

My player is Kareem's body Cat shooting Hakeem defense Prime Ben Simmons Playmaking and Dwight Howard finishing Have to make a clear distinction

Yeah You know when you got to say prime It's a little spooky That's some qualifier All right. So for my body, I got LeBron James shooting, carry Irving, defense. I got the brow, Anthony Davis, playmaking.

John, whoa. And then for my finishing, I got Shaq. I don't miss it to remember whenever I get there. Okay. Listen, people, y'all spam up that vote right now. Right now I'm winning a large margin. Let's see if you guys have some comeback season for Donner Mo. Large margin, guys?

Gigantic margin, actually. I have 65% of them. That's crazy. Right now, 130 votes in. I have 65% of the votes. Donovan has 27. Mo has 11. That's crazy.

11 votes is ridiculous. Listen. 11% of those. I didn't, I didn't even. Why it's a better finisher than Blake? I mean, I wouldn't say that. Honestly, it's a great thing to see. Yeah, it's a different type of finish.

Yeah. If you told Blake only catch lobs that it's like, okay bro like Blake has an off the dribble dunk like he can create his own dunks a little bit like he can take off off one or two feet and really do his own finishing Dwight's a great lob finisher too like that's probably even but I think Blake has a little deeper of a bag let's go and Dwight Blake has a way better layup touch too way better finishing touch without dunk yeah exactly Blake doesn't need a layup because he just dunks now when wemby's down there with Tim Duncan's defense he won't all right so let's go

let's go category but more skinny I'll put you in the way we're talking about Finishing Elizabeth Fisher, it's me. Playmaking, it's obviously going to be Magic Johnson. And then John Wall, Ben Simmons, you can debate that in your own time. I think it's pretty equal. Defense, Hakeem, Tim Duncan, I'd probably lean towards someone like TD. Shooting. Shooting is weird because they're all great shooters, I think.

Kyrie's most versatile shooter. Yeah, and he's the most proven or whatever. So, Kyrie and then Body. someone said I won the Blake Griffin was a pretty crappy pick because I could have had Alan Iverson I don't want Alan Iverson in Wade's body I don't Alan Iverson in his body

I don't get his dribbling I just get his dribbling I just get his finishing but you get the lay up you get the jellies I don't man if I saw Wemby in his main source

of fucking finishing was jellies I'd be pissed right at the rim bro for him over them he's just like finger up It's annoying when big man don't do big man things, huh?

I know. I want my guy Duncan. That's all I'm saying. Get down in the paint, my boy. All right, man. Pull ended over 200 votes. Listen, we convinced them to make it closer margins, but I still want him to 56% of the votes. Donovan in second place of 29.

And Moe in third place of 15%. There's no way that most should have 15%. I lead more time. I lead in most categories. This is ridiculous, bro. It's the thing is, you know, you picked the, talent on paper. You didn't think enough about fit. Your player. It doesn't fit. It doesn't

make sense. What? It's a weird concoction of skills. Being LeBron's size, but only dunking. It's just a weird player. You built Josh Smith. It's strange. Whoa, that's insane. That's insane to say. LeBron has the efficiency. John Collins.

You don't get LeBron's efficiency. You just get his body. He's tall and can jump. No, his efficiency in finishing the paint at the same rate as someone like Shaquille. It was already efficient. just like that already. Yeah, honestly, you know it is. You're making, whatever, cool.

You built LeBron. You built LeBron. You built a great player of all time. But we built players that are mythical beings that would be way better than LeBron and Michael Jordan. At a certain point in time, we could all, not compare, we can compare LeBron's abilities

throughout the entire year of his career to every single player on this list right here. I'm going to need you to do me a favor and just jump off for a second, right? Just like catch your breath and just make sure that I'll jump off. And just make sure. make sure no more bouncing no more bouncing bouncing yeah what

anyway we gotta go if you're still here if you're listening on audio if you listen to VOD comment no more bouncing and everybody here in the live chat right now we appreciate you coming through we will see y'all next week goodbye