The Deep 3 Podcast - Drafting The 2023 NBA All-Stars! | Ep. 21

Episode Date: January 26, 2023

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So tomorrow is the day that the all-star teams are going to officially be announced, or I guess it's today for everybody listening. So I figured this is a good time for us to do our own all-star list the day before and see how close we can get to the actual ones that come out. Yeah, let's go. Let's do it. I promise you I'm getting every pick right. I don't think that I'm going to miss a single pick, and I think my all-sart team is the best.

I was just about to say that you probably are going to have the worst out of the three of us. You lost the last draft. If we're being real, you lost the last draft. I need to like your team. Fielding skills is very suspect right now. They're on the ropes. Oh, that's crazy. I'm not even trying to replicate what I think is going to happen.

I'm just going to go off of what I would do if I had an all-star vote. You know what I mean? It's like, vibes. I'm going to do it that way. I think that's more interesting because, like, we can predict who we think the voters are going to pick, but yeah, that's less interesting to me. But before we get into it, we have some breaking news to talk about. Ooh. Rui Hachimara is not breaking news because it was a few days ago now, but we have some, you know,

up to date news that we keep up with. Rui Hachimara is now a Laker. What do y'all think about this trade? Whoa. Oh my God. This is crazy. Is he going to win a championship now? Wow.

The third option. That's the thing. I don't care. Like it's cool. I don't care. Yeah, it's not going to move the needle like that. It's a somewhat interesting move because we all talk about how they need wings and need people that are tall.

And he's not the best shooting in the world. He's a damn sure not the best defender in the world. But when you compare him to Kendrick Nunn, I'd rather have a big guy that can shoot a little bit than a small guy that can shoot a little bit yeah exactly i think automatically this is just what the lakers needed in terms of just like get what the fucking program in general with the NBA like they got a dude who is a dude who is actually like has he who's just naturally born talented he although he's talented he might be using his talent like to the maximum capability like other stars or whatever in the NBA do but this is just what they needed and this is just another body that they

could use. And I think this automatically, he may not be like the third best player on the Lakers, but he may be like the third or fourth best player on the Lakers just in terms of like straight up talent, raw ability. Maybe. The problem is, he's not very good. It's like to call the trait, he's not that good. There's a reason that he never quite got his footing in that rotation. Sure, they had too many wings to really give him a proper chance. So maybe he has, you can know with the second home can really carve out a role for himself. He's not great. I'm not really to say he's the third best player for sure. Yeah. But I see the vision. The interesting part to me is They plan to resign him and actually plan to start him next to LeBron and AD.

And it takes him out of the running for a max contract spot next summer. Max contract spot is crazy. But I mean, if he... No, for him, but they're not going to have max money to offer to a free agent next year if they resign him. Oh, okay. I see. Either way, it might be a win-win because maybe they don't want to resign him. And he's just like an experiment, like the cheapestude out there that he's like,

he could be a bang for their buck type of deal. But what's interesting about Ruiz is that... I think I saw some stat that said he was like 39% or maybe 36% off a catch and shoot from three this year. And with the Lakers over the past, what, 20 games, they're the six best offense. A lot has to do with that with LeBron James averaging like 34 points per game or whatever fucking crazy shit that he's doing. But if we can just learn how to shoot with the Lakers, it seems like as soon as people get on the Lakers, they just forget how to shoot. They lose all mediocre ability to shoot. And I'm scared that that might happen to him because I don't 100% choice of

like that because it's fucking Washington who scouts and preps against Washington for real. No, I mean, it's a, it's a good move. I think the fact that they still have first round picks is still very, very key. I think if they had like went and overpaid for everything, that would have been an issue. But they, the, the Lakers have an abundance of second round picks. They got rid of three of them. like this is it's fine i think it's a very good deal in terms of value um because like what's the what's the hit rate or like what are the chances that you're going to go and get three solid

rotation players with second round picks yeah and every year they buy some from people anyways i don't want to pick a player that deep so like they do like every year so who cares exactly they're they're going to replenish it's it's good value like as i said i don't think it moves the needle at all um but to put him in the rotation with lani with ad coming back i mean i definitely i this It's definitely potential... Austin Reeves coming back, too. Let's not forget. Listen, are the Lakers going to have shooting now?

Is this what they're doing? Listen, it doesn't make them a new team, but it doesn't hurt. You know what I mean? And especially if they make other moves to deadline, like if they go get a Josh Richardson or whatever other small name they're linked to, all these things combined can make a meaningful difference when you see it all in totality. And like Mo said, he is a good catch and shoot three-point shooter.

His regular three-point shoot numbers aren't great because he's terrible off the dribble, but he's not going to be asked to do a ton of that. He's going to get the best. looks at his career play next to lebron playing next to a d russ does create open shots so like yeah there's potential there for him to fit and find a role he was never able to get into in washington listen i know i know pat bav has been playing well would how the lakers need to make as many moves as possible to keep pushing pat bav down down the roster and down down in the rotation this is one of those moves i think with everybody coming back it'll be it'll be positive

for him that's what that's what i say and i think that's my overall take on this trade is that It's a positive trade. Facts. Except in the right direction. Yeah. In the season full of like negatives for the Lakers, this was good for them. Yeah. And that's all you could hope for it, to be honest.

Exactly. And if they re-sign him to what a team-friendly deal to give him 10 million a year, it gives him a medium-sized contract to be able to make moves in the future, which right now all they have is max contracts and minimum. So being able to get that type of just number on your salary cap sheet is useful. Yeah, exactly. Flexibility. And if there's any opportunity to trade up for not a star player or,

or like a mid role player and someone just out there who's in the middle tier like off the top of the head like a gary train junior not to say that he's not like something like that they'd be more flexible they're not flexible enough to do something like that exactly it's interesting that they're going to start him for sure that's like was the plan apparently it leaked immediately that's kind of crazy he's he's not a good defender right now yeah but you know the lakers are they they try hard it's just like surprising given what we saw in recent years under different coaches but Darvinham they like they try really hard and they get the most out of these relatively poor defenders like Russ hasn't always hasn't been a disaster this year defensive like he wasn't a frank fowal so hopefully in a new environment playing for a team with expectations we'll really see a different type of intensity out of Rui if that's the case and he could be a decent defender he does has some ability to create shots off the dribble as like a secondary playmaker to for himself there's a little bit of vision you can see there but I'm not going to hold my breath you know what yeah for sure it's a good trade I'm excited to see it brue got his uh something that I'm worried

about this has to be random this has to be mentioned uh like a year and a half ago maybe it was two years ago we just like completely disappeared from the NBA and the Washington Wizards and a lot of mental health issues going through some mental health issues you on the lakers now if you think you went through it back then in Washington you got to be an alcatraz now bro spot on you every night I don't know what those issues were so I don't know if we're late into the team or not so I won't get too far into it but yeah there is a lot of pressure associated with being a laker Yeah.

Then lights be getting bright out there. They get bright. That's what I was saying is that everybody just forgets how to shoot out there because it's tough. It's tough playing as a Lakers, tough playing with LeBron in terms of like what you're supposed to do in order to help LeBron out. So hopefully Reconfigure it out.

Yeah, it's like if you're LeBron's teammate. The loudest car in the world just drove by my apartment, Jesus. Someone's drag racing out here. I'm bored with spoilers. But it's like if you're LeBron's teammate, get ready to go ahead and prepare to be. trending every night if you have an off shooting night you get ready for your wife to receive death threats crazy bro that's funny yeah that's all that's the only like big story to talk about

uh anthony davis supposed to come back tonight and play for the first time in six weeks that'd be cool we'll have more to talk about with that next episode uh i think we found out zion might be out until after the trade deadline damn bad news for them but not a whole lot going on we're kind of in the dead zone of the season while we're just waiting for more domino's to fall into trade season. I want to take a second to talk to you guys about our partner's Underdog Fantasy. Underdog is the best and easiest way to play fantasy sports and earn money while you watch your favorite players. If you play their pickum game mode, all you have to do is pick higher or lower on your favorite player stats and you can win up to 20 times your money every single night

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I want to remind you guys, if you're watching on YouTube, drop a like, subscribe, help us grow further. if you're on Spotify, Apple Music, rate is five stars, leave a review. And that's the obligatory bullshit, I got to say. Let's start with the starters. You guys want to do East or West? Yeah.

East Starters are tough as hell, so West... Okay, Moe, you go first. Who are your West Guards? West Guards are Curry and Luca. Okay. So we should say that first. You have to, for this system, there has to be two guards

and three front court players for your starters. Then your bench is two guards. three front court players and two flexes for any position. That's the mandate for voting. So we're going to stick to that. But okay, so you said you had Curry and Luca? Yep. Interesting.

What about you, Donovan? I got Curry and Luca. So, I might be the biggest Curry fan. It was tough. I will say, I see where you're going and make your point because I'll play on that. I didn't put Curry on there. Curry is on the bench for me. And why?

I put John Moran above him. Wow. Games played, honestly. It's just because he missed a lot of games played and that's a tough part with all this is you want to throw out the door but like Jha, his team's a two seed they've been incredible, he's been incredible

he hasn't missed an extended period of time like Curry has. It's kind of what it came down to. I completely understand that. I think that for Steph, I think that for Steph, when he's been on the court has just been so good and he's just been so dominant

that for me like the games played, I'll worry about that later. When we get to like all NBA and then we start talking about games played that that's whenever it's going to like make a difference because then we'll have the whole season bet like as for right now and especially because Curry's injury was very very recent and so I think I think like obviously it hurts and you want to take everything into into account but like the all-star break is freaking 60 games into the season

like it's so much and so like things are bound to happen so that's the only reason why I I didn't have Jha as a starter. But I completely agree with your logic, though. I see it. Yeah. I love team success as like that's an all-N-B-A thing. I don't care too much about that. But games played,

I was like if there's got to be a tie-breaker between two exceptional guards this year, like if it wasn't Jha as like this obvious other candidate, then Curry would be starting. It was just, there's other guy who deserves it just as much. Yeah. Okay. That's fair.

I think I like how we all just have Luka in agreement. So I got to talk about it. Like he's Luka. MVP candidate. Come on. Come on. All right. So, front court players.

Mo, who do you got? All right. So front core players, I got, I included LeBron in there, of course. I don't think that's a question. Okay. Yolkich, of course. Naturally. Had to. The third one is a hard one.

This is the hard one. This is a hard one. I want to say Jaron Jackson, Jr., because he's been fucking bawling. As a starter? Bro. Yeah, that's something crazy, but I didn't put him as a starter. I put Subonis in there. Okay, okay.

That's fair. Yeah, the, I don't hate that. Yeah, the Sacramento Kings are the third C in the Western Conference. That's so crazy to hear. I know, and they have a gap. They have space. Like, it's, someone could catch up to them, but I wouldn't say it's 100% likely. Yeah, they're a fake-ass third C.

They're going to fall down a little bit. This man, Haiti. He's crazy to say that. So bonus deserves it. I respect that. Yeah, so I got, I got. Where'd you go? Yeah, I got.

All right. So I have I have Brown in there and I have Yokic in there. And for my four, it's kind of the same logic that I had as the guard. I have Zion in as my four. Whoa. Zion with all them games missed? It's the same reason. He's incredible.

It's the same reason with Curry's now when he's been on the floor this season and his injury is fairly recent. He's been absolutely spectacular. And so like he was having it was having an all NBA season. And I think that we're talking. talking about the first half of the season, I would want Zion as a starter. And I could also live with him being there because if he's going to be out through the All-Star break, then we can get somebody into the starting role.

And so you don't have to take away that acknowledgement for Zion for somebody else, you know? You know what we'll do at the end because the main players are going to miss? We'll do a couple of reserve spots for the replacements that we assume are going to happen. But we'll say that's at the end. Yeah. So, yeah, I hear you. Brian Zion Yolkich. I hear you.

So I didn't pick Zion or Sabonis. I thought heavily about both of them. Sabonis, I came down to the fact I just don't think he's quite as good as some of the other guys. So I wanted to reward him for the games play,

but I didn't end up doing it. He's on my team, obviously, but he's not, wasn't in the final two for the starters. Yesterday I had Zion Williamson. Wait, wait, before you go, before you go, right?

Because I feel like I know where you're going to go, so I want to say the person that I jumped over Zion for. That way it doesn't look like like I'm biting. My reserve after Zion was Lowry. Okay, yeah, I'm not bringing a Blarry.

Don't worry, but it. Okay. Yeah. So. I had it protect. I thought about Zion. I had him on there yesterday. He's actually written on the paper still.

I didn't actually change it by changing it in my head. Because we found out he's going to miss probably the rest of the season until the All-Star game, that's going to be such a colossal games missed that he's going to be leaped by the other guy who's coming back today, Anthony Davis. damn he's coming back today so he's going to make up those games played and got to be playing a lot more and you could say it's inconsistent with what I did for Curry but I don't think there's a jaw looming like there was for Curry I feel like the other competition it's called a bonus it's just nowhere near as good as Anthony Davis has been this year so he

gets a nod even though he has a games played miss the talent in production gap is bigger than the games played gap yeah that is true I can't stand you but I can't stand you I I really can't. You love ADD. You will make every single excuse. You will make, the thing with Lowry is the game is played. Lowry's averaging 25 a night and he's played 40-something games out of like a pot.

He's only missed like, he's only missed a handful of games and he's been there every single night. He's hooking my fantasy team up. Damn. I know. I want to, and so like I want to give Lowry the, um,

the nod. And so yeah, that's why I had him as like the very, very close ones. Okay. So what are you all think about Anthony Davis? Do you think it's crazy to put him in there? I think it is when you have guys like Sabonis and Lurie and also I might switch up Sabonis with

Larry because I forget the Utah games, the Utah, the Utah, the All-Star games in Utah. And so like... You make him a starter because they're playing in Utah? Yeah, I mean, was Jared Allen a starter a couple years ago when it was in Cleveland or last year when it was in Cleveland or something? No, he was an alternate. He was an ambassador. Like, he was a good on Friday night. What does that mean?

Ambassador. He hosted? Yeah, he's the one. he's the one he's the one taking everybody around Cleveland you know he's Jared Allen it and he's showing him the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame that's his job that's crazy yeah that's hilarious but I mean I don't know like it's easy to forget yes he missed six weeks so I was like damn six weeks is a long time to miss like it's a fuck ten of games man but AD was a top five player in the NBA when he was held to this year

yeah like and he's coming back today so he's going to make up the next what 10 games before the All-Star break yeah that that's enough he's come back night so like uh okay yeah eight okay i want to give you a little bit pushback ad was not a solidified top five player when he was healthy this year it took him like 10 15 games to get to that point sorry he was a top 10 player for 15 games and top five for the next 20 games yeah that makes you feel better he's on average a top seven player for the year sorry about that do some quick maths so if so questions so if anthie davis is anthony davis and he gets hurt again in the next 10 games so you're putting zion in yeah zion would be

be the next person okay okay that's right and it's a bonus after that i still can't stand you but i see i see the vision you pick it on it's not it's not a different situation at all no it's a very different same vibes it's literally the same like it couldn't be couldn't be more different just because it's a d that's why exactly that's why haters that's why okay so those are west starters do you all want to go to west reserves or east starters let's do let's let's finish out the west yeah let's finish out the west yeah those okay So let's go guards again. Mo, who are your two guards off the bench?

Fuck, man. All right. So I have to put, oh, so Jaws obviously on my bench. I'd be ridiculous, a lunatic to not put him on the bench. What's hard for me is, like, seeing that Deerrin Fox is having that type of success. You fucking love Deer & Fox. Yeah. Yeah, I'm nasty with it, but at least I rock it with pride.

But I'm not going to name him there, and I have to put Shea there, bro. I have to put you. There you go. That's the right answer. He's just substantially a better player. I don't know a soul on this planet who would take Deering Fawkes over Shea. You think me out. I thought you were that soul. I was about to say, what is wrong with you?

Not on me. So I got to put Shay in there. Okay. So we can all agree. We all have Shay on there, right? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Okay.

See, it's Curry and Shee for me because we talked about them. Okay. Those were probably, that was the easiest part. We have these three guards vying for one spot in the starters and two for the bench. We all knew it was the three names, right? Yeah. Okay. And listen, we can talk about Shay a little bit, give them some flowers.

The Thunder are currently a playing team. Dude. They're solid. They're surpassing every expectation that literally everyone had for them. They thought they were going to be. And everyone thought they were going to be in the Wemby sweepstakes. And this is going to be the year that they go ahead and haul all those goddamn picks that they have and try to recreate those twin towers. And now they're at the point where like, Shay, a lot of people on paper, I swear to God, the casual NBA fan can not name.

more than three players off this okayc team or four I'm being nice right now I'm being real six and then we're like damn who's that yeah for sure I to be honest I probably can't go more than 70 bro they just have a lot of bodies crazy I probably know I probably know nine honestly like it yeah okay seven seven is like I could probably name damn near their entire yeah we're exaggerating but you get the point is there's some Isaiah Joe is a on the thunder now I don't think a lot of people know that Isaiah Joe's been good he's been nice yeah has a point. He's nice.

Poku is doing his thing. Then there's J.R. Poku is a money laundering scheme. He's a tanking scheme. Poku's not a real person. He's a social construct. Yeah. It's just,

but yeah, Shay's been incredible. 30 points forward. Legitimately one of the best offensive players in the NBA now. He's made the leap to being a top 15, top 20 player in the league and I don't think he's going back.

I think it's just who he is now. Yeah. Shout out to shame. Obviously, we don't got to talk about John Curry. We know why they're on the team. Yeah. They're solid. They're solid.

So for the three forwards, spots. Who do you have? For me, it's just names we've talked about. I have Zion, Sabonis, and Lowry Marketing. Yeah. Okay. Who you got? I got Lari, A.D. Zion. Without a choice. I have Lari, A.D. Sabonis. Okay, so I like how we all, I'm glad we all have the same names in different orders. Okay, so you guys have AD on there. We talked about that. So at least you agree there's an all-star spot. At least you guys weren't taking the hate too far. With how he was hooping in the season bro absolutely yeah let's talk about sub bonus because we did our ranking episodes i think three episodes ago my biggest regret the day after is i didn't put sub bonus on it he kind of

just slipped my mind i had rudy gobert at 30 take him off subonis is on there so bonus at this point i might have him like 24 like sabonis has been incredible the way they're using him now where he's alone big not playing next to somebody like miles turner he actually has space to operate and do his thing he's baby yokic like the way they run through him as an offensive hub the last three games he's averaging like 11.5 assists he is an incredible offensive player yeah crazy bro and also on top of that he's gone better on defense as well which is a little bit yeah a little bit yeah a little bit he's a too far too far but i still i still want to give him his flowers when it comes that but back to what you said offensively he's a wizard and um he just doesn't get the same type of props because

a he's like you know sacramento's been doing their thing but a lot of attention tends to go to the Flashier player Deeranard Fox And he's Listen they're in Sacramento Like we don't care Yeah but Sacramento's kind of No no like listen They're who they're hooping

We're gonna give them their flowers For being third pat It's it's Sacramento Like there's just certain cities With it's not a big market It's easy to overlook Yeah yeah If he was doing this in New York City

He'd be a fucking mega Oh my God They'd yeah Oh my goodness bro Remember the Presumania This guy's way better than Porzingus ever was Remember who? That's true

Wow Yeah, so obviously Subonis deserves a spot I think there will be some people out there That will say Fox should have been their All-Star representative Disagree, I just think the bonus is better I get it, it's not a huge gap But I think Subonis is meaningfully better than Deer & Rocks Yeah, I believe that if you were to choose one of those players

To drop with a bad like ACL injury Wild take or wild way to frame it If one of these players Were to go ahead and drop with a catastrophic injury which one of the other players do you think? Yeah, which one of these other players you think they'd have a better chance of surviving with? And I would say sub bonus because what Deer & Fox is doing

is easy to replicate with a lot of guards in the NBA. Yeah, and it's, I like to write off Deerrin Fox a lot because, like, you like him too much. But if you put them on your team, it's not crazy. I just think there's like, when we get to the flex positions and the guard spots, there's just like more people that are deserving. Yeah.

But it's not a giant gap. So not to be too disrespectful to Fox. Yeah, for sure. Okay, so we all agree on that. Let's talk about Larry Markening. Larry Marking deserves all the flowers. Listen, he's my most improved player. Can't be mad at it.

He's going to get my, at this point in the season, he's going to get my vote. 25 a night having his most efficient year by far, scoring 25 a night. He's there every single night. It's very, very crazy to see somebody this late in their career take the jump. because normally normally by the third and fourth year you kind of know what somebody is going to be about maybe they could go to a different situation

bump up their average by like you know 2.3 points by some more usage Lowry is 7, 8 points better than he's ever been reinvented himself in one year it's insane and so for him he's getting all the all-star flowers for me shout out Lowry man because I don't think anybody saw this

coming from him this year not I'll tell you that yeah yeah absolutely 10,000% agree with everything you said about him dude larry's insane larry's insane he's at the point now where like if i was a good team i very much want lowry marketing to play next to my stars when he asked me a year ago my stock or my opinion on lowry marketing i didn't give a shit about him i wasn't even thinking about him and thinking about viable players yeah but now like he's a great three-point shooter with his height he's legitimately a big floor spacer he is some out of nowhere an elite rim finisher he don't count on everybody he just knows how to cut and find his way

to the rim and finish i can't remember his numbers last time i checked he was shooting like 67% at the rim so the thing is too he's averaging 25 while being like the least ball dominant 25 you'll ever see yeah that's a dream he just finds a way that's a dream to play with exactly like you put him to get him get him another like not elite but like high level guard to play next to him like if he was next to dari's garland like he was last year in this role yeah with this type of freedom to take shots it'd be incredible if the you saw jazz were to go ahead and do what they're supposed to do and like just tank correctly and get grab up the number two pig select scoot henderson that'll be fucking that'll be um that would be crazy that'll be imagine him imagine him and wemby just these twin tower shooting threes oh my goodness wherever wemby goes like you compare him with absolutely anybody it's just gonna be oh my gosh that yeah fact is that imagine him and julius randall we're like oh shit that's up on ice bro but that's Bro, for Lowry.

We agree on these forward names. Yeah. These next two spots are interesting. Okay. Because there's a, I think we'll all go different ways with these, with the two flex spots. I go first. So you all know, these can be any position, just two players in the West. Yeah.

I went with Devin Booker and Damien Lillard. Okay. Damn. Okay. I like, I like the Booker. I like the Booker pick. I have Devin in my flex as well. I think it's the, the time in which Devin's,

has been out has been his best MVP case over the last two years because the sun's suck without him and you are clearly able to see just how much he brings on a nightly basis and especially now now that chris paul is over the hill and he's washed up and dandre aton exactly and dandra aiton isn't stepping up to be like the superstar that devon booker is in in that role it's very very clear booker was bawling before before he got hurt and yeah so i'll give him him my MVP vote as well. It sucks that you now see the value of the rings now that he's out and you

couldn't see it before when he was... No, no, no, no, no, no, no. We always saw it. I never said that he was not a good player. I never say he wasn't important. The thing that I said was, we do not care. That's what, that's what I said. I said he can do he... Devon Booker could have done anything he wanted to do, right? He dropped, listen, Devin Booker dropped 50 points, and I did not care.

damn there was there was like a little bit I care very little I care a good amount just not enough to make him an MVP candidate that's where I draw the line he's good he can play basketball very well I just he doesn't have my interest on like on a night to night basis the way that some of the way that some of the other stars do

yeah hater who's your second spot yeah when it comes to Booker yeah when it comes to the sun's lame organization yeah yeah who's your second spot in the flicks oh you guys were also you guys might hate me you guys are saying why can't the kings have two people

they can and i have de aaron fox as my second place over damian lured yes he's having 29 points per game wow yes the aaron fox has been bawling this year what's on the table of this turn listen the er the fox the air fox has been balling this year he has played a lot of games he's one of the most clutch players in the emmy NBA, the Sacramento Kings are third in the West, and the Portland Trail Blazers, after a hot start, have fallen all the way down in the standings. Deeran Fox is the engine of one of the most fun offenses in the league, one of the better teams in the Western Conference, and he and Sabonis deserve love.

The Los Angeles Lakers have two all-stars, and they're the freaking 12th seat. I'm giving the King's love, and I'm giving Deerrin Fox my second flex. Shout out to you, Donovan, because you're better than me. I just simply couldn't do it because there's not any day that ends with why where I believe that Deeringer Fox deserves an all-star nod over Damiener Lurlitt, and I don't think he's ever been better than Damila, and I don't think that the success that has been seen is enough to warn him. Y'all, let's sleep.

But I love it, though. I don't hate that pick at all. I don't hate that pick. I had the same twosers as you, by the way. He was 29 and 7. Yeah. But 63% true shooting. He's incredible.

Yeah, you just can't do that. He looks like Damien Lillard. Nothing changed. His team sucks around him. They failed to surround him with good talent. Their whole idea of rebuilding around him on the fly was stupid. It didn't work. But Dame is still Dame, and he still is clearly all-star caliber.

Nah, okay. I think what they did was not stupid. I just think that what they did was just not good enough straight up. No, it was stupid because it was a fruitless effort. It was never going to work rebuilding when your main things you're sending out are C. C.J. McCollum, Robert Covington. and I forgot who else they traded. Norman, no, it was a Norman Powell?

No. It was not on that team. They did trade. I can't remember the third name they traded. Yeah, they traded Norman Powell. They traded Robert Covington. And C.J. McCollum. Yes.

Yeah. And they lost her first round pick that was coming to that deal. That was never going to be a situation where you build a contender. But all that aside, Dame still looks exactly like Dame has always looked. He's incredible. And I think it's so disrespectful with leave Mothalist. Yeah, absolutely. I think, I think disrespectful is, listen, Damien Lillard has also missed a lot of games.

He's only played 35 games this year. De Aaron Fox has played 43 games. He's played more games. And so when we're talking about, when we're talking about the other players, when he comes to like a starting spot, yes, I'm going to put the absolute best player there. Once we get into the reserves and we can start playing around with a little bit more, I think Deeran Fox has had a fantastic season. It's not crazy I said it's not crazy I put Dearen Fox in

So it's not the wildest thing in the world I just think of all the names to cut Dame isn't the one I would have cut But I understand Yeah exactly I can't refute that I love that thing I see your logic

It's not insane But I thoroughly disagree We can do our reserves So quick Because the first name Fox wasn't my first cut He's my second cut The first cut I had to decide between

Was Paul George or Dame Paul George He missed some gains He's been great He's in a very good season like he does he's my first reserve so if zion can't make it to the all-star game and put somebody else in i'm bringing in paul george then dearon fox then jaron jackson junior okay cool i feel like no one cares about the clippers this season like ever since like

like so disjointed the whole kawai thing yeah they they just have been disoriented throughout this entire thing that they've built and it carried on to this season and i feel like no one really has eyes on paul george or anything like that or anyone on the clippers because of how fucked up they've been so it's interesting i don't even know what his numbers look like this season at all 22 points per game is scoring's down a little bit or say 21.7 he but he's he's been paul george like he's output because you know he missed some games he was a little rusty for a little bit the whole offense has been kind of disjointed but he's still paul george he's been great okay okay okay who he's at first cuts from my reserves i would have damien lillard and i would have

jaron jackson jr i think i think i think i think i think jaren's impact and we've talked about it before, Jaron's impact to the Grizzlies and to their defense and everything that they're doing. Can't be overstated. And he's been, he's been fantastic since he's been back. And then you guys just,

you know, went on and talked about just how good Dame has been this year and how he's been, he's been Dame and he's averaging nearly 30 points a game. So, yeah, I would give him, I would give him that nod over Paul George.

And really anybody from the clippers, just because they've been so disjointed and they've been so inconsistent in and out the lineup this and that. that so dame daren jackson jr on my two reserves fair enough for sure yeah mine are daren fox i hate to give out of everyone like two all starts excluding the lakers but i hate to give the memphis not the memphis the sacramento kings two all stars because it just doesn't feel right but at the same time looking at a lot of things that they're doing bro i know i have to go ahead

put daren foxes on that on that list and then also i'm going to put jaron jackson jr have to do it i almost we all love jaron yeah i almost mean to fucking bench guy so yeah if you put jaron on that we've been totally understandable yeah exactly it's like with jaron jackson his impact is literally no joke because as while he was gone for the first couple weeks of the NBA season the memphis were fucking terrible and they were in the trunch is just like the waters and everybody else towards the lower half of the west and as soon as he came back i think they're the number one defense like legit since he's been back oh yeah yeah which is like one defense on the season outrageous it's crazy because they had a lot of ground to make up from

that bad start yeah outrageous all right we got a good 30 minutes in on this team let's go to the western to the eastern minutes it's crazy let's get to this eastern conference let's start with the starters the guards were incredibly interesting because there is five guards who honestly could all be starters every guard that's going to be in the team could be your starter yeah Mo who are your two starting guards

all right so my two starting guards are Kyrie Irving and Donovan Mitchell yeah okay I agree with half of that Donovan Mitchell's on my list Kyrie's not but Kyrie's on my bench list okay so you have Donovan yeah I've I've

Donovan Mitchell as Yeah, I've Mitch as one of my point guards I'm Jalen Brown as my second guard Wow, I thought about that heavy That's good You all different guards Dude Jalen Brown has been so good And I think this is the time

Where we can really start giving The Boston Sussex Love They're number one in the Eastern Conference They've been able to go through All of the stuff that they went through In the offseason They're coming out, they're balling Jalen Brown right now

having a career year, right? Averaging 27 a night, right? Oh, it's nasty. 27 a night, career high in terms of efficiency. He's a really good two-way player as well. Give me, and also very consistent in terms of games played. He checks a lot of boxes for me. Who's your other guard?

Mo, why don't you explain Kyrie a little bit? I'm Donovan Mitchell and Jayon Brown. Okay. What did you say, Isaac? Why don't you explain the Kyrie pick a little bit? Yeah, so for my Kyrie pick, with all the, like, it kind of goes back to I think we talked about in our last episode, just all the turmoil that they've been through earlier this season. Kyrie, obviously, to no one's surprise, being the face of the turmoil, being suspended for fucking eight games because of some silly shit that you did. Being of the turmoil.

You know, like, and to go through that, continue to be a positive presence on the court like we all expect him to be. And also, as of lately, take his game to another level and be the number one option that pretty much everyone thought that he couldn't be into win impressive games over teams like the Warriors. And I forget else who else if I think they... He went crazy against the Jazz. He dropped 48 against the Jazz.

His suit was super close down the stretch. Exactly. I see your pick. It was a hard. For me, it was hard. Like, my two were between Kyrie and Jalen Brown. So I like, I see your point. But, yeah, Kyrie's been looping, though.

Interesting. So I didn't be either of them. I picked Donovan Mitchell. We can all agree, Donovan Mitchell is incredible. He had the hottest start to the season you could possibly imagine. He was in the B candidate for the first 10 games. He slowed down, but he's still amazing. The Cavs are still in the top tier of the East.

We all have to put Donovan Mitchell. The other guard. I didn't really consider Kyrie. Kyrie's on my team, but I didn't consider him for the starter. Jalen Brown was my first cut. I really wanted to put him there. But I went to Tyree Saliburie. Oh my God. You're disgusting for that, man. As a starter.

Tyree Saliburton is just as good in the same caliber caliber player as Jalen Brown, if not a little bit better. He's an elite passer, probably top five in the NBA at worst. He was an assist leader until he got hurt. I think he still might be, but maybe games played as disqualify him. Yeah, we understand. Yeah. 20 points per game on 63% true shooting. He's extremely efficient 20 points per game. And that team was humming with him in the lineup. There were the 60. They were in the playoffs. the Pacers did you expect the Pacers to be a six seed no one day I fucking did not

supposed to be Wembe yeah they were supposed to be the ideal wemby category or like landing squad they were a legitimately very good team led by a very good offense and a competent defense exclusively because of Tarii Taliburton's

brilliance being the engine of that offense he got hurt and they fell to like the 11 seed his value is just like Devin Bookers where we see that this team needs him to be really good and without him they're garbage yeah that's fair you could do games played if you want to reward Jaling through the one C, they're incredible.

I have no argument with it. Jalen could have been there. But I just think Tyrese is a little bit better and has a little bit more impactful. Wow. Okay. Wow. That's kind of interesting.

That's fair. That's fair for me. I don't, I don't hate it as much as Moe hates it. But like I would. Mo hates Tyrese. Because like I don't think. Yeah, I love Tyrese. I don't think it's nasty.

I don't think it's nasty. And both, both Isaac and I, whenever we did our rankings, we both had Tyrese over Cairoise. and we we put him in that in that tier and so yeah I think you had him next to Kyrie actually they're like neck and neck honestly all three players are they're all like between 20 to 24 yeah so I don't I don't hate it I like I see it I see he deserves respect I don't yeah okay yeah so obviously if we can talk about it for the guards on the bench we I have Jalen do you guys have Tyrese yeah yes okay

good actually I didn't not get ahead of myself let's talk about the four forwards first in the starters yeah exactly who are your three front court players in the starters so a couple of weeks ago this is hardest fuck to think about but because of kevin durant's injury yeah it was a lot easier to cut him out now because he's gonna exactly i think i think his comeback date got pushed back or i could be wrong i don't remember but um with the substantial time that he's going to be missed having the same exact injury that i had that he had i believe last year um last year the exact same thing happened but that's where the number one seed and they fucking plummeted to seven or eight or whatever they were and hopefully the same story doesn't

repeat but because of his just straight up absence and everyone else is stock rising guys like jason tatum and him getting a big one over the over the wars even though it wasn't pretty the other day he did his thing um so i got jason tatum i got janus and i got him beat so same yeah has to you agree most maddonovan you agree wait so so you guys have Tatum Janus Mbid yeah no I don't agree so you have KD in there I do I've Tad's fair I've Tatum KD and and Mbid I think I think you have Yonis outside of that yes I do wow Janus coming off the bench I do I do I think crazy so so first of Tateum we are like Tatum's there right yeah MVP candidate he's

there Durant before he goes out is I In my opinion, ahead of Janus in MVP standings. Okay. What he's been able to do this season, especially because he, because Kevin Durant was trying on defense and he was putting for some of the best defensive effort. Yeah. Of his career. And he's going down on the opposite end, averaging probably one of the most efficient 30 points per game we've ever seen, right?

Dominating from every single which way. I think that he deserves that spot And then when we get to Embed I We're all just kind of like sniffing at the Sixers Because like they have James Hardin They had the playoff laps last year And so we're all just waiting for them to get to the playoff

See what they're actually made of Because that's what we're going to judge him by Maxie's been out Joel Embedit has been freaking fantastic 34 and 10 On career best efficiency He's his defense Yeah

yeah yeah so we we were kind of like ignoring him this year especially in the MVP talks joelle and beat is one of the most dominant regular season performers like we've seen in the past couple decades like it's insane exactly we were ignoring him for a good reason though because the sixers started off stupid slow but continued they did they did and part and part of that was part of that was because of joel and b like he had the injury he was playing himself back in the shape um and so like the effort on a night-to-night basis wasn't necessarily there but since then he's absolutely picked it up his defense has gotten immensely better and then in terms of like games played for all of these guys like right now at the time of this recording joel and bitt

has played 34 games kevin karen't has played 39 games yonis has played 36 games and so they're all in the same you know clusp in terms of games played i think what imbid has been doing is fantastic we just don't talk about it because we're just waiting for me but yeah he's my starter Okay. It's so hard to leave Janus out of your starters. Like, you know. Because it's like Janus, you know. But it's also tough to leave KD out, so I get it.

Yeah. Yeah. Because the injury. One of them is going to be out. It's tough. Okay, yeah. So it's nothing much different. That means we have KD in our reserves, obviously.

He's the first reserve. Like Donovan said, he's been incredible. One of the best two-way players in the league, which is not something you can usually say about Kevin Rand. But he's been the one, honestly, he was the best defender in that lineup besides, I guess, Knicks, Klaxton. Yeah. he's been great yeah exactly you mad like who would have thought that this man would be giving so much more effort on the defensive end after crying for a trade during the off season

crying for his fucking head coach to be fired and shit like that and you're out here to dogging people out yeah year 14 yeah he's old nobody talks about it he's kind of fucking old that's why he's always hurt now like he's just like brown they're old men he just disguises it because he doesn't miss jumpers but like he's old he can't get to the rim anymore like he doesn't look like young kd but it doesn't matter Yeah, exactly. This evolution of KD is beautiful. You have Yannis as your first person on the bench.

We have KD. For the guards, I'll go first. I have Jalen Brown, obviously, who's the first cut from the Stargers. Second guard, James Hardin. Same thing. Okay. Really? Yeah.

People are just like, the same thing you said is how we write off him beat and kind of ignore him because we know they're going to fall apart in the playoffs. It's the same thing with James Hardin. We're like, he's getting so much disrespect. Facts. But, like, there's people that, I forgot who it was. Somebody was on the Zach Lowell podcast yesterday. About James Harding.

Somebody was on the Zach Will podcast and said the dumbest should ever heard. I forgot which he was an analyst was. But he was basically saying he's not going to vote Hardin on his team because he watched one game that was really bad and that poisoned his take on Hardin. People will find any reason to discredit Hardin this year. And he's not the All-Star Star Star Star Lock best score in the NBA he used to be.

He's still clearly All-Star caliber. He's a top-five faster in the NBA, a relatively efficient 22 points per game he's still a really good player he deserves a spot yeah exactly 10,000% agree

10,000% Donovan did you do James Harden off your team no I didn't okay he's not he's not he's not one of my first four guards um my flex yeah he's in my flex

because I've I've Donovan Mitchell Jalen Brown Kyrie is my first player is my first guard off the bench and then Halliburton it's my second guard off of the bench so yeah James is in my flex but yeah

that's what I'm at with James okay okay that's cool okay so forwards yeah obviously have KD yep Jimmy Butler who

I don't have Jimmy he's Jimmy Butler he's Jimmy Butler what are we gonna do I don't have Jimmy okay and then Julius Randall okay

actually another amount and we repeat that Julius Randall's a flex Seaccom as a forward okay okay okay so all right that that's interesting all right so here's what i have so i have janis i have siacum and i have julius randall okay and my as my three uh backup forwards wow okay so i have katie i have katie cool i got siakum that's cool and i have bam out of bio i think you guys are

heavily you have bam or jimmy yeah i got bam over jim at this point i don't want to say that jimmy is like the second best player on the miami but But so far this season, he's been the second best player because of injury. They're averaging the same amount of points per game. Bam is, without a doubt, the best defender on that team. He's supposed to career high numbers. The opportunity is there. And like, after all the years of people complaining about Bam, about being more aggressive on the offense event,

stop averaging this week as 15, 16 points a game. Go ahead and be a 24 game score like we all know you can be. And he's done that. And he's been forced into that role while Jimmy Buller has been out. And he's doing that. And he's thriving now that Jimmy Buller is here. It's like by the time next year comes, he's going to officially be handed the keys to the Miami Heat and be the face of that organization.

And when I think of that meat now, I think of BAM Arbio. I think of Bama Arbio now first. Okay. Yeah, I don't hate it. I kind of just honestly forgot about Bama Outabio. Yeah. Maybe like, I think every year for some reason Miami is one of the teams I watch the least. Like, I do my due diligence, but like I don't find myself watching them a whole ton.

Yeah. So I'll take your word for it. Makes sense. So we all have Julius Randall. Talk about that, Donovan, because I know. You didn't have Julius? Nah. I let the media get to me.

I don't have Julius. Yeah, you suck. I admit my downfalls when I have it. I don't have a lot. I mean, Julius and Jalen Bruns have been fantastic this season. The only reason why Jalen doesn't make it is just, there's just so many good guards in the east.

But for Julius, he's gotten to a point where he looks like 2020 Julius Randall, right? That 24, 10, and 6th player that was shooting 40% from 3. he was he's starting to be much more efficient than he was and the big problem with julius that has kind of plagued his entire new york nick's career has been the fact that whenever he gets the ball he's felt the need to score every single time right he's felt the need to go in and initiate the offense he doesn't have to do that anymore because jalen brunson's there and because he has that freedom to now just play within the offense play within the game he's not making as many

stupid decisions and so julius randals is coming in his rebounding is is fantastic he's trying again on defense he's he's become a more efficient shooter and so i think the julius randall is he's been excellent and especially over like the last over like the last month four or five weeks he's really really turned turn it up a notch as rj has been out the lineup jalen brunson missed a few games and randals been there and the nicks have been solid and it's because and it's because randos held So, yeah, he's played like an awesome this year. Shout out, Julius. He deserves it.

The thing you mentioned was rebounding is also been insane. Like, I've been seeing him on Underdog Fantasy. Shout out. I've been seeing his rebound lines, like, 9.5. I'm like, what the fuck? He's like that? That I see, oh, last four games. 14, 14, 12, 9.

Who is this guy? Is this Prime Andre Drummond? Yeah. Yeah, he's been putting in work on the boards. And especially now, now that Mitchell Robinson is hurt as well, he's taking a little bit, yeah, he's taking a little bit more of that responsibility. uh to to start rebounding a little more so shout out julius man because it's been crazy shout out because i thought that this version of julia of randall was gone and he's he's proven me wrong

and he's really stepped up nice i like that i like to see it so he's my he's my first flex obviously my second flex is carrie irving do you guys have who are you guys is flexes is anybody we haven't talked about yet my flex is jalen brunson oh so you have brunson over randall okay explain that absolutely i forgot you love him you wanted to be most improved talk about it yeah exactly Jalen Brunson like I think this just goes he's been hooping he's been open yeah he's been

fucking hooping and he's been like I said earlier I think we all said this he's been the best point guard to the Knicks have had in a very very long time and I think that the New York Knicks go as he goes but I also say that I don't want to

discredit Julius Randall as well they're a tandem and they need each other and the Knicks won't be as good without one of the missing You know Yeah And so with Jalen Brunson

And his progression And everything that he has learned And done in Dallas Taking that to New York And doing it on another level What he's average? Like 22, three points a game Or something like that

She's been really good He's been everything that They wanted him to be when they signed him Like he's been exactly what they needed I think whenever that trade happened I made a TikTok where I was talking about like people were saying oh they overpaying them it's a horrible contract it was never true because everything that the Knicks sucked at last year creating them shot off the dribble

playmaking mid-range shooting finishing at the rim all that stuff is what jaylon brinson thrives at and it's exactly what's happened it's been everything you could want it to be for the nix yeah he's everything yeah i just i just looked up as well he's averaging 22 points six six assists three and a half rebounds and he's shooting 47% from the field over you know what's crazy I remember in that video because I remember the numbers I was like people were saying like

why would you pay this much for a 16 point per game guard four assists it's not worth that like you can't do that you got to look at his numbers when Luca wasn't playing last year and those numbers

were 21 points per game seven assists yeah basically exactly what he's doing now without Luca on his own on the Knicks he's been everything you could want him to be

shout out Jalen I don't I don't hate that pick I mean neither but I also disagree because he's not even on my my reserves yeah wow that's what i was about to say my reserves oh wait are you a first non of it you can go ahead okay i've bam uh i've bamb out of bio at james hardin as my reserves oh you didn't pick james hard on your team no he's oh okay my bad my bad my bad my bad i'm talking about like my flexes my oh here last response to that my flexes were bam and hardin um

and i'm the one who had jimmy butler damn you guys both picked bam over him Bam has been better Everything that most That's on me then maybe that's on me Maybe that's on me for not paying attention to the heat enough You're probably right We don't blame you Yeah

We don't blame you Yeah everything that most said was Was right But in terms of my reserves That's where I would put Jimmy I would give I would give him a chance after that

And And that I would put See I don't even know For my last reserve I mean, is there, is there even anybody who's not? I have Trey Young and Darius Garland as my two reserves. You say Trey Young didn't make it. You could also say DeMardo Rosen because he's having to fucking 26.

The Bulls are not fantastic. I'm not going to say to Mardor Rosen. Trey doesn't deserve a spot this year because they're dysfunctional. He hasn't been shooting well. He's still Trey Young. You still a fantastic offensive player. Like, he, he, if somebody goes out, like, who's not, Katie's not going to play this all show game probably.

Trey Young's going to replace him for me. For sure. Okay. for sure yeah so yeah i guess jimmy will jimmy's going to be the one to replace katee for me then yeah so i got tray for me personally i got tray on my fletre yeah i should give more thoughts of bam out of bio

yeah you need to you need he's been phenomenal bro he's been phenomenal this he's passing he's been crisp as always bro he's actually being gonna watch the miami game tonight yeah exactly but for my flex i got brunson and then i got trite young even though like Like what you've been saying he's just been The Hawks has Oh, he's on your team? Functional.

Yeah, he's on. Well, he's on the flex. He's on the flex. Okay. Yeah. So he's on your team. Okay. He's in my reserves,

but that's crazy. Yeah. So, um, he's Trey Young at the end of the day. Like, he's going to give you 28 and 9 or whatever he does. You know what it means. You're a Knicks fan. You should know what it means specifically.

Got him. I deserve that one. Yeah. If you learn first hand what the fuck it means. Yeah. Um, uh, damn.

Oh man. Yeah. But it's, I hate it. I hate it because when I watch him play, bro, I'm like, I'm like, bro. The other night I shoot at this man is playing like prime Julian Newman right now. The last game he played against the Chicago Bulls. It was a, it was disgusting.

And there's just so many, there's just things mentally that's off with Troy when he plays compared to any other season of, any other season of his career. and it just looks even uglier because he can't shoot now or not can't shoot that's cap his shooting has been up and down he's not when the best shooters alive this year yeah compared to what he used to be i get it i don't hate it like i said he's my first person to be a replacement so i can't be that mad at it but i'd put jimmy bellier above him he's still jimmy bolley yeah yeah yeah he's been he's been he's been good don't hate like he's the same as always like nothing his numbers are exactly the same they always are

Yeah, that's true. I can't hate him that. He's most consistent player in the NBA. He will give you 21 points and six assists every year until he fucking dies. He's like that. Yeah. Shout out Jimmy. Yeah.

But I think that's the end of all of our teams. I think we can move on to the most famous words anybody said in Deep Three history, it's TikTok time. All the 10-year-olds. Ah! Finally! They probably just skipped to this moment. Facts.

Literally, we posted timestamps and every episode comes out. Every time I do it, within 10, minutes, the episode being out, people are commenting about the TikToks. I'm like, you motherfucker, you just click the TikTok segments. People can watch whatever they want. That's why we do the time segments. Yeah. Let's do it.

It's why we're going to do the time stamps. First thing we're going to do, like always, we're going to start with the draft. Tradition. This time we're going to do something that somebody commented a couple times and recommended. I wish I would have a screenshot, so I saw their name. Yeah. But we're going to do a headband only draft. You know who you are?

Shout out to you. Yeah. So what that means is players that, so everybody's worn a headband at one point, so we're not going to be dickheads about it and pick like Steph Curry is not a headband player We're going to pick people that had an iconic era Where they're known for wearing a headband Facts

For an extended period of time Yeah So the hook Let's draft NBA lineups With only players who wore headbands Who got the first pick Yeah that's what I want to know I have second pick

Mo is third pick Ah fuck I have the third pick I think Mo went first last time right No no I went first last time I think yeah I got the first Oh okay so Mo has first pick I have second pick You have third pick.

Yep. And with the first pick, I got classic 2K13, 2013 LeBron James. Damn. Yep. Okay. That was obviously going to be the first pick. Can't be mad at you. Second pick, Will Chamberlain.

Okay. Okay. That's cool. That's fine. That's fine. Okay. Could have been the first pick. Yeah.

All right. Give me Carmelo, Anthony. Nice. Okay. And give me Alan Iverson. Ah, that's nice That's strong That's strong

I like that That's fine Obviously I would prefer Alan Iverson to fall to me But I'll build the best Front Corps you could possibly imagine Give me Anthony Davis

I don't think I can I think you can't get away With that one That does not count I don't think you can get away With that one buddy He's entire New Orleans career

Did he? Yeah If I look up Anthony Davis right now on Google and one of the first five pictures that show are not him with headband I don't count. Anthony Davis Pelicans. It'll be Anthony Davis, New Orleans.

There's not a headband. There is not a headband in New Orleans. Fraud! What are you talking about? Yes, there is. You thought you could get away with that one. Literally, I think he was a headband now. The first six, the first six

pictures do not have headband. He's wearing a headband in his team picture this year. A majority of his career has been spent without a headband. That does not count. Yeah. He wears a headband now. Negated.

Sorry. No. Can't run over. Type in Anthony Davis. Type it in. Type it in. Just Anthony Davis. The first five pictures, I see it on the first screen.

There's five Anthony Davis's. Now you're switching up, change it from Anthony Davis to just type it. He wears a headband. What are we talking about? He didn't wear one in New Orleans. This is, no. We can't allow this. Are you guys out of your mind?

It's Anthony Davis. He's trying to win. He can't win. He can't allow this. I'm looking He literally wears it He wears a headband now I got it backwards

It's LA he wears a headband More than New Orleans Oh man He didn't wear it in New Orleans Sorry He wears it in L.A He plays for L.A What are we doing?

Did he wear a headband When he won the championship In 2020 That's a real question Yes I'm pretty sure Let's Donovan He back like that

That's the most iconic moment In his career Did he hit that Did he headband Did he wear a headband Did he wear a headband When he hit that Did he wear a headband when he hit the game

Winner against Denver That's another Actually I don't know No he did not I don't think he weren't. No, he didn't wear it in the bubble. You're done. He wore, he was on and off.

It was on and off in the bubble. I'm sorry. He sometimes wants to have his locks out. What do you want for me? You're done. If he doesn't wear all the, no, he doesn't count. Yep, he don't count. Way to ruin the TikTok.

What the fuck? No, we can put this in. I don't. I can't even argue for bantering. Isaac is, Isaac just picked a fraudulent player and the committee has disallowed his pick. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Anthony Davis does not count. You jackasses. Okay, well, if I can't pick Anthony Davis, then... Fuck. If I can't pick Anthony Davis, then give me fucking Paul Pierce, I guess. Okay. That's good pick, good pick.

Yeah, that's not a bad pick at all. Okay, so you got Paul Pierce. That's actually a great pick. Not good pick. Sorry. Give me Dwight Howard. That's a good pick. Yeah.

Give me Dwight Howard. And then along with Dwight Howard. This is so crazy I could pick Anthony Davis. No, it's not. Yes, Dwight wear headband. Yeah, Dwight's prime year. All the time. He weren't in L.A. actually.

Yeah. Yeah, exactly. I don't know. If we're doing it by the same logic. No, my God. We don't have anything by this logic. A majority of his career, he did not wear. It's not a majority.

Nobody wears it for a majority of their career. It's for an extended period of time. Like the most. Nobody wears that majority of their career. That's ridiculous. The most iconic Dwight Howard does not wear a headband. Yeah, he doesn't matter. Bro, come on now.

He trying to negate mine. Wow, you're better to me, Isaac. I would have said the same shit. Fucking TikTok. What are we doing? Why are we being the stringent? We're doing drafting, okay? All right, so I got.

We have rules in place. If we don't have rules, we have anarchy. All right? Trying to stick to something here. He can have Dwight Howard. It's okay. Okay, cool. I got Dwight Howard, and then on top of that,

let me go ahead and double up. I'm paying real big. Big DeMarcus cousins. Oof. I'm so glad you said that because you should have picked Dirk Novitsky who was what I'm going to pick.

No. Okay. Stop this. Stop this. Stop. Who remembers Dirk whiskey wearing a headband? Bro, this is never good.

We need to stop this thing. We need a board. You're all going to do this for every pick. You are just ruining the spirit. What are you talking about? Dirk Neviski wore a headband. He doesn't wear a headband. You can't do that.

Players who are notorious for that in a certain era. Dirk was never notorious for that. How many times he wore a headband in his, in his, he wore a headband in his, He wore it when he had long hair when he was young. He wore, you don't think I looked these up.

I found people ahead of the seasons where they wore headbands. I see. When he was young. We might as well stop doing it. If you're all going to this for every pit, we might as well fucking stop this. You're not picking actual, like, headband people.

Like, bro, Dirk is not a headband player. Okay, fine. I will not pick Dirk. We'll ignore the fact that we gave him Dwight Howard, because this is not good content, but we'll keep going.

God. Can I have Pascal Seaccom? Is that okay with you? Sure. Yeah, that's, that's factual. Okay, then I'll take Pascal Seaccom. There you go. Okay.

I have Alan Iverson, I have Carmelo Anthony. Give me Kenyon, give me Kenyon Martin at my five, and then get me, give me Baron Davis. I'll put Baron Davis at my one, and I'll put Alan Iverson at my two. That's nice. That's nice. I like that. Is my turn again yet? You know, I'm going to pick for my guard.

Give me Shea Gilchus Alexander. Oh, see, now you're cooking. Now you're cooking. There we go. Might be the best headband player playing right now. Yeah. Now you're cooking right. Yeah, absolutely right about that, too, I believe.

Even though AD is a headband player, but we'll ignore that. Fuck. Okay, so now I'm in a rut. He's going to wear one tonight when he comes back. I'm going to send you screenshots, and I'm going to tell you to fucking eat shit. Cool. My phone's going to be on D&D. God.

actively wears one now This is ridiculous Okay, so Sheesh I'm gonna have Rajan Rondo That's good That's good Okay

So I got LeBron DeMarcus cousins And then I have another big Dwight Howard And I got Razan Rondo And now Sheesh

I kind of need someone Who can shoot And off the top of my head I can't think of a headband player Who can shoot like that Oh no Watch my ad

I don't know why, but one of the first headband players who could shoot in my mind was fucking Jared Bayliss. My NBA, my NBA knowledge is fucked right now, bro. Jared Bayless is so crazy. All right. Sheesh. You're on the clock. Damn. Did Ray Allen not wear a, he didn't wear a fucking headband?

Yeah, he didn't wear a headband. I can't reach at all. Bald ass. Yeah. You bald as fuck. you're missing somebody there's some oh can I can I

can I do Joe Johnson or no yeah he wore a headband for a good amount of his career right yeah yeah so I'm gonna do Joe Johnson there we go okay

thank God you fucking fumbled give me Clay Thompson he he wears a headband now die he's worn once he came back from injury you remember the fucking meme of the thick headband because he wears a headband

I think he's worn with his whole career I think he missed out on the whole concept of this Isaac that's like we gave Mo Dwight Howard take Clay Thompson fine Clay has worn a headband his entire career I'm going to scream

his entire career Clay Thompson wears a headband okay literally since he came back from injury he's worn one the whole entire time he won a championship in a headband last year Clay Thompson has been back

for 78 games he's talking about since he's been back for me i don't want to take clay thompson whatever i don't care man it's some nasty work by you guys i can't go lie to you that's ridiculous and we're talking about players who are no for this the parameters we could have this is their go-to attire bro he's word one for two seasons god damn tyson man let's be for real shit he's working for two seasons how is i not a headband player we're making a statue of clay thompson nobody's putting a headband on him we're not doing that he's worn it for two whole seasons we're not doing that he's not wearing

oh my god he's not wearing a headband in 2k so it's not so it don't count yes he is let's get serious I'm gonna end this horrific draft give me Al Harrington as my four and that's what we're gonna work with and you're gonna laugh

our Harrington is a bucket I have never You're probably the first person in human history to ever say that. Why do you think of Bill Walton? I don't want Bill Walton on my team. Oh, my gosh. Outerrington can do everything. What are we talking about?

Why would we disrespecting out of Arrington right now? What's going on? Oh, my gosh, bro. Why would I want Bill Walton, bro? He's incredible. What do you mean? He's the second best passing big man of all time. Yeah.

He stay hurt. He stay hurt. He had like one good season, and then he gets all. his acclaim because he was on the bench with the Celtics waving the towel because Larry Bird was actually putting it in the way. Bill Walton's whack and he's a whack commentator too. I can't stand Bill Walton

and his son's bad at coaching. They're all terrible family. Terrible family. This was the worst draft of all time. I'm going to rip my hair up. Oh my God, bro. We're done. I couldn't have Anthony Davis. Yeah, no. Yeah, no. You shouldn't even had Clay Thompson, too, for being completely

honest. Listen, the Clayton's all. The Clayton's The Clay Thompson pick is more egregious than the Anthony Davis pick. Yeah, bro. Like, if you look up on Google right now, you don't see in the first page. He tried to get Dirk Novitsky off as a headband player. Yeah, I was like, you can't, you try to get one up on this. Honestly, I googled players that were a headband, and that's how much pictures of Dirk.

When he was young, he wore a headband for a real. No, bro. Nah. I got to have Google. I can't fly. I feel like his MVP season, he wore a headband. But besides the fact. 2007.

don't help me in that I don't know if it was one of those young years I look type in dirk and one of the pictures only you'll see the headband picture man I don't know what year was terrible TikTok this is gonna be actually good TikTok but it's gonna be a phenomenal podcast listening effects it's great for the podcast listeners okay let's go to the next thing yeah anyways regardless that is that one I got off Google typing in headband players so I can understand if dirt doesn't fall under it you didn't do real research I've been wearing a headband for two years y'all out of your minds no fucking

LeBron doesn't wear headband now like what are you doing it was iconic that's the thing Dirk headband was never iconic Clay Thompson headman I get Dirk but AD and Clay Thompson wear headbands

but let's move on from the headband talk I'm mad I'm irate what do you mean mad oh man let's play a game with 20 questions let's do it

let's do it oh let's change that we've done a couple weeks I promise I promise we can't have Isaac be the one with the player because then he's going to he's going to pick Dirk Navisky and we're going to ask

did he wear a headband and he's going to be salty and then I'm going to be irate and the podcast can't be over we can't have two people irate okay no more irate I'll be the person that makes it like guesses you guys can guess it players no wait wait wait wait

you want to guess it no no I'll say the name okay cool Was, did you even, do your name of mine? You want to do it? Yeah. All right. Okay, you can do it.

Hold on. Let me find out just a little bit, just some key information about this dude real quick. Okay. All right, bet. Yeah, we haven't done this in a lot. This is funny. Cool. Cool, cool, cool.

You got to pull up? Yeah, I'm ready. All right, let's go. Say that hook. What's the hook? Oh, my God. Y'all have 20 questions to guess his NBA player. I'm thinking of.

All right, cool. Y'all got 20 questions to guess this NBA player. Oh, I kind of slurred my words a little. bit you all got 20 questions to get this NBA player all right is he currently playing no okay um is he a back court player hmm yes so yes or no question yes guard cool so he's probably like a two three because he was fucking struggling no i just forgot real quick what back court was Is he below 6.5? Yes.

Third question. Was he drafted after 2010? After 2010? Yes. No. That's four questions. Okay. He's not currently playing.

Was he drafted in the 90s? No. Five questions. Okay. Would you consider him a good shooter? Yeah. Okay, so he's a sub-6-5 shooter from not the 2010s, not the 90s. Okay, wait.

Back to your 2010, 2010's question, he wasn't drafted after 2010, but I would say on that year, that was. Oh, he was drafted in 2010? Yeah, so I have to do you guys. Oh, okay. I don't want to confirm for you guys too much. Thank God. Thank you, thank you. All right, drafted in 2010.

Yeah. Okay. six he's not in the league anymore who's who's a 2010 draft class who's number one picked that year 2010 is that john wall now john wall was

oh nine was yeah i thought john wall was oh nine oh no no because no because i think blake griffin was oh nine and then john wall might have been 2010 yeah okay he's not in league anymore huh is he white no you said he is a good shooter yeah okay he's not white he's sub six five would you consider

him a good defender no is his primary team or was his primary team in the eastern conference that's interesting because i would i'm just going to say the the the team that he was the most famous for sure okay watch your mic your mic's out in your mouth um the team he's most famous for was in the east there's nine questions

so he must play for a lot of teams he doesn't have a primary team you said he's not white shooter who was drafted in 2010 Ben McLemore was in 2010 that was before then um

damn 2010 draft nine question no was he drafted by the eastern team no oh so he's drafted by a western team no no no so I was asking when he's drafted by an eastern team no

so it was a western team no no so he's undrafted that should be two questions right there you asked me two questions that was nine ten and eleven so no that wasn't two questions that was a assertion based on the question you just answered it I didn't ask you to

so he's undrafted then yeah okay okay now that's two questions no I'm just talking to out loud Oh, my God, bro. Damn, get off our dicks. We're just speaking aloud. We will address you with questions.

I'll look you in the eye. All right. All right. So undrafted from 2010, good shooter. Who people that, like, made it up the ranks? He's not white. Wait. Was Jeremy Lynn undrafted?

Is that a question to me? No. Um, yeah. I think is this Jeremy Lynn? Yeah Oh, let's fucking go I was good Not too hard

Yeah, not too hard Teamwork The undrafts I gave it away Yeah I should have shut the fuck up Yeah, you talk way too much Yeah It was way too much

Yeah Thank you Didn't even need 15 questions Yeah That was solid That's funny Okay Next thing we're gonna do

We're gonna do a tier list Okay I'll put this on the screen for people but we're going to do a point guard tier list okay so let me give you the hook real quick

let's put these NBA point guards into a tier list so we got Steph Curry Luca Donchich Trey Young Kyrie Irving Damien Lillard Tyrese Halliburton

Ben Simmons Russell Westbrook and DeAnglo Russell I'm gonna send you guys I'm gonna text you the list so you can see it yeah so for everybody else

it'll be on screen I'm a visual learner Yeah, I'll let you guys see it The tiers will be S and then A through D S for shit, cool S for Super and then A through D All right Start off

First off, Steph Curry is S tier, right? Yes Yeah, yeah, yeah, without a question Automatic. Luca S tier. Lucas' S tier as well? Yes Okay, automatic

Trey Young Last year I said A Is he B tier? are we doing a base off of this season or a totality of like however you want to consider it however i want to consider it i would say if however i want to consider i would say b tier because i this is not going to be him throughout the rest of his career i'm not going to take trey young's b half of a season and run with it yeah b solid b damian lillard if tray young's b i think dame deserves a yeah dame's a dame's a dame's a dame's the poster boy of a tier he'll never be

tier but he's not going to be B tier any time soon yeah okay where are we putting Russell Westbrook Russell Westbrook what's the lowest D all right we'll put a one above the lowest you see yeah I think that's generous I think I think Russell Westbrook is D tier oh man I'll tell you I'll I'll put him well hmm you want to an F tier no yeah yeah let's go let's go let's go there's an F tier. Whoa. F tier? No, but Russ is in D tier. Ross is in D tier. Yes. Okay. Okay. DeAngelo Russell. I think DeAngelo Russell is like the prime C tier player. Yeah. I was going to say I would put him in D.

I would say D. He's still a good player. Do you think him and Russ are on the same level right now with how Russ has been playing? In the tier, I, with how, with how, I can't even talk with how DeAngelo Russell is playing. Yes. He's not playing great as of late. he's he's no he's mid-minus put him in what you think well I think I definitely put him

in C okay just because of this one terrible not terrible season but eh season from him and I think he's starting to pick it up now he definitely deserves a C 9 he doesn't C tier

generous alright what about Ben Simmons F yeah for sure Oof F T damn not even D F minus bro get him out of here Discloth

Fuck. Ben's done. Yeah, bro. Where's Tyreys Halliburton go? Academics expansion. Tyrese. Academic suspension. Yeah.

Academic suspension for Ben Simmons. If there was an A minus B plus tier, that's where he would be. What? Tyrese. He's probably B for now. Yeah, B, Donovan, slow down. Damn. You have, I said A minus B plus.

He's B with Trey Young. Damn, you can't wait until this man leaps over Trey. Shit, let's relax. He's better than Trey Young. he is better than Troy Young this season Asterge

right Tyrese's B tier yeah where's Kairri Irving B tier B I want to say B minus but I would say B

minus I was like if anything he might be A he's he's also A minus B plus but you know what Kyrie has pedigree we'll give Kyrie A

we'll give Kyrie A okay yes him and name I'm with that that makes sense sense to me. Yeah. Last one, Marcus Smart. It's such a random-ass name.

I know, right? Anything about stars? People who got it. Marcus Smart is better than DeAngelo Russell. You put Marcus Smart over Deering, Fox, Shea, Douglas, Alexander, and all the other, like... No, I'm not doing every single name. Damn. I do variety. All right. Marcus Smart. Go ahead.

Mark is he too? Sure, yeah. Yeah. He's a good player. Yeah. Well, the best defensive guard in the NBA, like... this is a B probably C right I put him in C yeah

he's a flopper yeah flopper yeah I put him in C he's a great player yeah I can't do every guard I think Shay I recalling Shay a two or a one

I would say a one I don't know because this is a weird that's a different question for a different day yeah yeah it's hard to count how to

with him and giddy it's hard to decide who plays what yeah but okay next up we're going to talk about hypotheticals okay i want to know which NBA team would be better if everybody was in their prime oh let's go okay warriors versus the 76ers the warriors um the prime hardin and prime and beade together yeah it beams and bees in his prime right now

i got to go yeah warriors for sure oh bro 2018 2019 Prime Draymond, Prime Clay, Prime Clay. 2016 Steph is one of the greatest offensive players, offensive seasons we've ever seen. True. And if he had a healthy Clay Thompson who can actually move on defense again with Prime Dre? Yeah, who can shoot? Who can shoot?

Who's not afraid to give you 16 to 15 points? And Wiggins? Yeah, no. Plus pool. Yeah, yeah. Okay, okay. Y'all are right. It's the Warriors.

All right. Lakers versus Clippers. prime brawn is hard to beat but the clippers with 2019 kawai and prime john wall that's that's fucking scary prime john wall and prime paul george who was like

third and in the MVP back in 2019 or something like that but also but also but also prime russell westbrook yeah i'm thinking the lakers i say the lakers because overall i i think prime russ

Trump's Prime Paul George. I wouldn't say it prompts Prime Kwai, but it's not like... 2013 Braun, 2017, Russ, and 2020 AD. Give me the Lakers. Give me the Lakers. Bubble AD at that? Yeah, give me the Lakers.

Yeah, I'll take the Lakers. Last one. Sons versus Nets. Prime Ben Simmons when he wasn't afraid of basketball, but also young CP3. That's a good-ass question. This is the toughest one. I think I would still take the nets, though. Because if you have a prime Karee to go across from Prime CP,

whatever version of Kevin Durant that you want to say Prime, like there's nobody on the Sons that's stopping him. And then Prime Ben Simmons could actually guard Devin Booker. That is true. So we're saying Prime Keny before he lost his mind too. Yeah. What did you say? Prime Kyrie before he lost his mind too.

Exactly. Yeah. damn prime before he lies in mine I would lean that way

but also I want to say like the Phoenix sons with CP3 when he was considerably

washed was elite so like I still need to lean towards the to the nets though

yeah I'll go net just because 2013 KD is so unfuck with the bull but it's hard yeah

yeah I'll take the nets this time is dying over there it's so funny wait why Wait, why are you dying? He said free hate speech, Kyrie.

It said pre-hate speech, Kyrie. It's a pre-pre-hate speech, yeah. I thought you said free. He was trapped in his mind. Okay. Nice thing we're going to do. So we've got a few videos now where we're talking about disrespectful dunks. We're going to talk about disrespectful ankle breakers.

Yeah. Yeah. So, what was the hook I used for the dunks? Okay. Y'all rate these NBA ankle breakers based on how disrespectful they were. Let's get into it. First up, first up, the iconic James Hardin on Wesley Johnson. Oh my God.

That's a 10. Easy 10, man. Made his knees buckle, bro. Hell no. Wesley Johnson. Bro, that's the night Wesley Johnson's career ended. I don't know a single thing he did in the NBA after that night. He might have never played a single game.

I wouldn't know. Thanks. This man, James Hardham was at the three-point line, Wesley Johnson's. Johnson was in the paint. James Hardin danced on him after he made him fall, looked at him, and then made the three. Yes, that's disrespectful. The shimmy plus 10 disrespect, bro.

That's what makes it. It's not what makes it, but bro, it's just like, it's a cherry on top. And it's like, bro. Wesley had to fight after that. He had to fight. Oh, absolutely. You go, listen, you either win the game

where you win the fight. And Wesley Johnson should have fall after that. Absolutely, bro. And it was just so embarrassing. The room, the fucking arena was. completely quiet. None of his teammates even dared to help. Everybody has a reaction, even the players on the Kliper's bench.

Wesley Johnson's children are going to grow up, know their dad was in the NBA, type his name into YouTube, and see him being embarrassed by James Hardin. This is 11 out of 10. I just imagine some snot nose kids being like, hey, was this your dad? All right. Next one, just as iconic, Steph on CP3. That's my favorite. This is my favorite.

This is my favorite. terms of being disrespectful i think it's a nine but in terms of like iconic oh no it's that's the moment that step became better than chris paul that's the that's the moment that like the torch got passed and he just said like listen you're an old man right now you know the disrespectfulness might be underrated by that because chris paul became a meme that lasted a while like that was in the internet lexicon for like a good year that's true but we cannot act like step step on his foot like that just go that's just the whole bunch that deducts i'm not just in nothing bro i've been on this since when that happened it's not a real ankle breaker it's nice

and it's definitely iconic but because of it's not because of its legitimacy i got to give it an eight however however chris paul tried to catch his he tried to catch himself and try to go like that at the prime of the whip it coincided with the whip's pride and it went it literally went hand in hand so counter to your part he made him do the whip on the court so i i you have to give it at least a nine he had that man whipping a nanae on the court i give it an 8.5 you got me okay okay another one carrie irving on brandon knight i can't even say without laughing carrie irving on brandon knight like i said brandon knight is always finding himself on the wrong end of a highlight reel he is the poster child

of the wrong end He was in He was in our dunks video He has to be fucking crying, bro Getting an ankle breaker on a shock contest Is so insane This has to be a 10 And this is when all eyes are on you, bro

This is not some random ass game On a Tuesday night in Detroit Or Cleveland bro When they're both fucking ass This is everyone's watching you right now You got all the stars on Friday night Ain't nobody watching the games on Friday night Bro

No, but that's not watch this again look how goofy he looks this is ridiculous man let me watch you i'm i'm watching you right now oh no yeah okay that's a 10 that's a 10 he got me he looks so goofy that's disgusting if you are listening type 8 carrier ring on brandon knight ankle breaker in the rising stars game he looks like a fool that's such a long phrase facts oh my god bro yeah yeah bro this is not this is not for brain and I don't know 10 10 10 all over this is a true 10 Okay

What about the Alan Iverson double crossover Oh That's a that's a 15 The video that I sent you guys Is the title of it said Alan Iverson double crossover on on 10 On Antonio Daniels With five angles

They had this crossover Everywhere lit up There is no camera that didn't see this man Get crossed over twice It's a 15. It's a brooder film for the NBA. It's a 15. Alan Iverson is the king of the crossover.

He got it. This is a shining moment. Yeah. Yeah. This is a 15, bro. There's posters of this. People got tattoos of this shit. It's on their fucking walls on their shirts, bro.

It's iconic. 15, bro. Okay, okay. What about Joe Johnson on Paul Pierce? Get that old man out of there. He made Paul. This is the oldest Paul Pierce ever looked on a basketball court. It was crazy

And it's wild Because he's still in his Celtics jersey This isn't even like Nets, Nets, uh, Paul Pierce That's actually old Paul Pierce looks shook Yeah And my thing about this crossover too

It wasn't like wildly impressive either It just kind of happened And his knees just fucking collapsed Like he didn't hit him with no fucking vicious Yank to the left or right He just like cut the balls Super close to the goddamn floor And it's like he just lost all his brain cells

him and he just collapsed this is the night that draymond decided that paul pierce isn't covey he doesn't get a farewell tour he saw this he saw him and decided he just remembered this in his head and it was like no way he gets a farewell tour yeah bro how you got crossed up at home too that was in boston how you fall like how you fall for that bro that wasn't even unaggressive

yeah that's why you know what this is at least a nine because of how mundane of a play it is you know how sad it is to get crossover that hard on that simple of a move you're pathetic He Joe Johnson didn't go anywhere He didn't His shoulders didn't move for any It's right here

It's right It's right Those are the type of moves That I hit Children with At the player When I'm just playing with him Bro

Yeah And he just fell for Paul Pierce Oh my goodness Couldn't think about down bad Shit I love him like that Yeah

All right last one What about the Steve Francis iconic upfate crossover This was so funny This is This is peak And one Meets

Because it's just like seven, eight dribble moves. Like Steve Francis. Spamming. And like, I don't, I don't know if this one counts because it's like, it took you eight times to cross me over. Like, of course, after eight times, I'm going to think that you're going to, you know, go for a shot because I locked you up for 10 seconds. And this is like, this is like a six. It's funny, but it's like a six.

It's funny, but it's a six in disrespectfulness. I get a bit, I give it an eight because you still look like a dumb ass and it's very still disrespectful for him to continue to try that. All of his other teammates are watching. Just standing there, like, yo, are you going to swing to me? I know the defender's like, yo, please swing, bro. My ankles are pegging for you right now. This has to be an eight because bro is in mid-air as he gets right by. He's not on the ground.

He's in mid-air. Every single inch of vertical that he could possibly have to yake that shit, bro. Crazy. Yeah, this is sad. That's hilarious. Eight. All right, well, that's the last one. We have a hundred more TikToks that got left.

We got one more TikTok. Okay. And this is going to be a little more straightforward. We haven't done this in a long time since the summer. So I'm going to name two NBA players. You let me know which one you'd rather build around. Okay. Simple.

We'll go right off the gates, the most, like, the hardest one. Luca Donchich are Janus Hunter de Kumpo. This is probably the hardest one. I'll take, I'll take, I'll take Yonis. I'll take Yonis. There's no right answer here. I guess I'll go Yoncich, to be honest. I'll go Yonis, but it's tough.

I definitely go Luca so because I think he has just more time obviously under his legs and shit and with how far that he's leaped as an NBA player in what the four seasons that he's been in the NBA Lord knows what type of like

more things going to pick up under his game year eight I don't know how easy it's going to be to put a second star next to Luca and I can see a second star playing playing off of of Janus easier and being able to make like a better team dynamic and the fact that Janus is dominant on both ends of the floor, I think that's what sways me in this case.

Yeah, that's true. I just think Janus is the best player in the world. Like, it's so easy to build around that. All you got to do is give them spacing and an adequate ball handler next to him and you have a championship ready team every single year. Thanks. That's true. That's true.

Next one. Zion Williamson or Joelle Embeded. give me joel give me give me joel we have to and zion's been better on defense but we kind of have to like

we were waiting for that kind of questioning if zion is going to be able to use his his athletic tools to be a good defender joel and bids already that he's already fantastic on defense like we said earlier

34 and 10 career efficiency dominant on both ends of the floor give me joel okay yeah it's tough joel hasn't been the playoff performer you'd want him to be but he's also just been unlucky with injuries and things haven't broken his way

once that luck goes the other way and he finally wins a championship it's not going to be a conversation he's one of the best players in the world yeah absolutely i agree with both of you guys for a second i think about it but at the same time zion hasn't really shown me as much as joel has over the course of his career and i almost don't think about this give me joel yeah i won't be shocked in a couple years if we realize that zion ends up being better than joel yeah but right now i can't go there yeah next one devon booker or kevin durant and remember age is part of this oh well think about it even still even still i would take kevin durant yeah you'd rather have those three years

of prime window over yes Kevin booker's rest of his career yes i would i would yeah it's tough that's tough devon booker's really good man Kevin Durant is even he's Kevin Durant how old is Kevin Durant How old is he, like, 34? 35. Oh, okay. That's old. With how the NBA is now, I think he has like another, he might have another three good years of he can average 30 if he wants.

So you're taking the three years of Kevin Durant versus the like eight or nine of Booker? Yes. I think I'm taking the eight or nine over Booker personally. Okay. I don't know. I have more of a window and. I mean, I don't think you have a, I don't think you have a true championship window for five years with Devin Booker as your.

as your best player well I feel like I trust Devon Booker more long term for obvious reasons and of course like Kevin Durant

he makes up his mind like the weather bro like it changes I think about that too so one thing about Kevin Durant he's gonna leave that team if I'm a GM

I can sleep way better if I have Devin Booker over Kevin Durant on my team bro Kevin Ryan we wake up in the middle of night I see fucking tweets all over the place bro I'm good on now

but in during okay in Indr and obviously this this probably won't make talk but in durrance defense he leaves when his contract is up he does not leave in the middle of his contract cap when is he left he just requested a trade with four years left and look at and look at the um and look at the circumstances that that caused it they just said no like he's he tried no but look but look at the circumstances that caused him to to to make that trade if unless you

have like historically bad turmoil in your franchise. Kevin Durant is going to play for you and he's going to play every game or at least like try to play every game and he's going to... That's true. Okay, fair enough. That is true. I'm still thinking about it. Next one. Donovan Mitchell

or Shea Gilchus Alexander. That's tough. Yeah, this is hard as far as. Super hard. Because we haven't seen Shea in the playoffs yet at all. We haven't, but I'm going to go out there on a limb and say Shea's going to be great in the playoffs. I would agree with that. His game screams to me that he's built for the playoffs.

Man, DeMitch is good. But I'm taking D.Mitch. Give me D. Mitch. I have to. Sorry. I got to take D. Mitch. I think his athleticism gives me a little notch up over, over Shea. And he's a better playmaker than you would think.

Yeah. And we've seen Donovan Mitchell on a team that doesn't hate each other, completely dominate in the playoffs. So I'll take D. Yeah. I'll go with you. I'll pick D. Metsch too. I'll pick D. Metsch, but I don't feel good about it.

Yeah. Yeah. That's fair. Next one. Darius Garland or Tyrese Halliburton? Tyrese. Didn't even think about it? No.

No, I don't. I think Tyrese. We already have Tyrese Halliborne as one of like the 20 best players in the league. This man is an all-star. He's insanely efficient. He's a better pastor than Garland. And he's going to be great for a long, long time. I'll give me Tyreys.

It's hard. to not give Garland a single thought, but Tyrese is a generational playmaker, like you said, like, it's got to be Tyrese. Yeah, but Dary's Garland was an all-star. Tirees Haliborne is not an all-star yet.

Until tomorrow when they announce he's going to be an all-star. But still, I'm still sticking to Tyree. Just because, like, what he does is unprecedented, and I feel like I can get, I feel like I can get another version of Darius Garland in the next, almost in every draft. There's some player who plays like him.

Okay. Damn. Chill. Okay. Take that for, take that for what you will. I know what you mean. Every other draft. I get it. There's, there's, yeah, I'm more likely to find a player like Darius compared to someone who has the abilities of Tyrese. Yeah, I get that. That makes sense. You're right. That's fair. Last one. Trey Young or Anthony Edwards? That's right. Tray Young. Yeah. Yeah. Hey. Listen, I agree Trey Young is much better right now, but your ceiling is really

limited but holding a guard of that but your ceiling is really limited with a guard that's that bad on defense and maybe you could argue that the idealized version of Anthony Edwards doesn't have that fatal flaw and you could build a team around that yes but even with Trey like Trey offensively is still

fantastic he's a much better passer than Anthony Edwards is and if if you build the right team around him as if you get a two guard who can defend then you can just Then you can just do what the Warriors did, and you can hide Trey Young everywhere, and you'll be fine. If the Warriors can do it out with the Hawks right now, Donovan, tell me. What's that?

What's up? Say, what a fuck ain't you doing that with the Hawks right? And we got this John T. Mary, that sounds so easy. True. Listen, he is not relegated to just being the two guards. They try to play this like your turn, my turn type of stuff. Yeah. They try to have two points.

In a perfect world, I would say, Anthony. In a perfect world, I would say Anthony Edwards, but they're just a few things missing from his game that would make me feel a lot better about constructing a team, specifically key for Trey Young, given just how extraordinary his long shooting is and also his passing. Yeah, I get that. Trey Young is a safer bit, but I think maybe the Anthony Edwards team has a higher ceiling if things go right. Yeah, I could definitely agree about that. I can definitely agree with that. but i also don't really know if i see anthony edwards passing up train young so i don't know yeah but yeah that's the end of the segment and know that also means that's the end of the

episode oh wait actually isaac oh lebron james he has like 177 points so that means within the next games that he plays i have a tic-tok idea but maybe you could save it for next episode so you can get it out asap or we could do with this one i guess you save it for next episode we're already at an hour and a half i guess we might as well yeah let's just save it for the next episode okay keep that in mind yeah this episode's done Tom Mo

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