The Deep 3 Podcast - Drafting The Most Exciting Players In The NBA | TD3 Live

Episode Date: September 18, 2024

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y'all i believe we're live i believe the people are here finally finally finally first time in two weeks but we are here we are finally back and we have listen we have mr mojo with us oh my god a long-awated guest he's here i'm saying who is this guy stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop we're back we're finally back from my hiatus. Yeah, man. You guys are in the stream right now. Let us know the audio's good.

I had to redo some settings. So it might be a little wonky with our audio levels. Let me know. Don't lie to me because I actually need to know what you guys think. So don't fuck with me and tell me, oh, we can't hear one of you. I actually need to know. You know, they're not going to tell us.

How would you do that to yourself? Ideally, they would help us out, but I'm not expecting consistency here in the comments. Yeah, liars. Yeah, man. We're back in their live. as you got to see by the title today we're going to draft the most exciting players in the NBA so we're all going to go through and you know normal draft we do one through five like we do in our

TikToks it's going to be that but extended we're drafting one through five and we're drafting benches so full 12 man teams yeah see see once we get to around that five range that's why I'm starting to be like okay I'm getting a little bit nervous on this draft 12 is a bit much it's a bit much and I already know somehow I'm going to make a pit with like my ninth selection and somebody could be like, you sold, you sold, I don't care, I don't care. I need to be able to, just let me get through blocks of two, let me calm down and I'll be okay this time, please.

I wonder if Jason Tayan was going to get drafted today. If he does, it might be coming off the bench. In the most exciting players in the league? It keeps on, we're not drafting good, we're not drafting necessarily the best line as possible. It's strictly who can make the most fun 12-man unit. So, yeah, interesting. And fun can't mean anything.

It's Jason Tatum one of the 36 most fun players to watch in the NBA. It depends on what type of fun you like to get into, genuinely. That's what it is. What type of fun is Jason Tatum bring? Ethical fun. Ethical fun. Rebounding fun. Oh, we got our first donation of the day.

Hold on, I got to move this window because I can't see if we're over there. But shout out the horse of yokech are tipping $5, you know, a consistent donor of ours. He said, let me pull it. over also i know listen listen i get the notifications about about who's donated i know you're guvy all right whoa i know you govy just just want to put that out there horse of yokeet said two weeks we missed mo you owe us a thugshake and also dawn bring the dog into the stream wow listen i can make listen for ten dollars i can i can make the dog happen I don't know.

Yeah, Thugtshake is kind of crazy. Yeah, no. I don't go for 10, I'm going to just say that. And shout out to Winston from Overwatch. He said, I'm in the 1% of your audience that watches your pod on HBO Max. Nice. Wow.

HBO Max. Saw it to you. Watching a podcast on HBO Max is just so opposite of where my brain goes. Sounds like misutilization to me, but you go ahead and rock out. Wherever you watch, appreciate it. someone said I missed most thickness that's why they want to see a thugshake

how do you feel about that wow um wow you're a thick symbol for the internet so how's that I never knew that that was attached to my name and because of that I just miss I might miss like two more weeks so I'm about to go on vacation fuck this oh yeah yeah man before we get to the draft and the main topic of the episode as always we

are going to start by going over the news of the week. And this is an interesting news cycle because, once again, it's the opposite. There's not much going on. But there was an interesting story that came out today, actually. The Oklahoma City Thunder will give the Seattle Supersonics their history back if the NBA grants them an NBA team. Sources said if a team was returned to Seattle, a Thunder would cede the Seattle history back just as the NBA Charlotte Hornets reclaimed the Charlotte era history of the New Orleans Pelicans

when Charlotte switched from being the Bobcats to the Hornets in 2014. Interesting. Giving a team its history back, I don't know why, but it sounds like so vile. Like, they got robbed. Come get your chain back. That's what I hear, my I don't know why. Come get your finals appearances back.

That rings. If I'm okay, see, I'm telling them boys, you want your history back? Come get it back in blood. Traffic. Exactly. Sam Pressy's one of those. You're like, get a good. History of back in blood is crazy.

But real quick, before we talk about this more, host of Yokic just donated another $10. He said, Don, a deal is a deal. Don, I think it's a-word. Yeah, he did it. I'll be back. Okay, there you go. Yeah, this is interesting.

I saw, as soon as this story broke out, of course, Southex fans were like, listen, the Lakers owe the Timberwells some titles. They better give them to them, all five of the ones from Minneapolis. That's so true. that's just trading history yeah

if this does happen all it's clear as they also in signs point towards Seattle making it come back and that how was how does the expansion process work do teams like have to cut off like three five players or something like that from their roster or what

I think typically you protect a handful and the rest of them get put into a expansion draft expansion draft yeah okay look at that we got the puppy we got the puppy on stream look that little Penny appearance.

She's looking at all y'all Crane eaters. Y'all Granted Eater's looking at him too. I heard too. Don got that dog on him. This is Penny, everybody. All right. Penny said not too much.

Penny's been held against her will. She is. She was napping. You made, you woke her for $10, Donovan? Listen, I, hey, hey. The dog, are you? The money was sent.

So. $10 and it was met What else could you do The money was said I had to do what I had to do I'm sending her back downstairs Y'all don't Please don't tell Donovan to do anything

involving me for money Because he'll do it in a heartbeat God damn $10 Shout out to Carlos Salos Reyes for tipping $3 He said glad It's more for 15 for you

Carlos Glad to see Mo back From his 10 days in the NFL Putting that football helmet cranium to good use. Wow. Helmet craneum. It says you're a bonkinnoggin.

Rock out of no helmet. Yeah, back to the news story. Yeah, if you were OKC, would you give Seattle their history back? So, on one hand, yes. Like, I think the Seattle fans deserve it. But on the other hand, like, hey, listen, sucks to suck. Like, we're here now. We're here now.

And it just is what it is. This franchise, this is the same exact franchise that used to be there. You guys are technically a new team. So I can't really get that. But as somebody who grew up in Houston, I do hate the Tennessee Titans for wearing the Orioles jersey. So yes, they do have to give them their history back. Okay.

Yeah, I don't know. You weren't here. People were immediately saying the Lakers have to give Minnesota five chips. Oh, yeah. They should. That's disgusting. Next news story. Skip Bayliss is expected to launch a new show with Lil Wayne.

Are y'all going to tap in? Oh, my gosh. Is Lil Wayne going to tap in? Does Lil Wayne know about this? I don't know if he knows about a lot anymore. That's all saying. But it's ridiculous. I mean, this is just two old men just tweaking.

Like, they have no idea. Because we've known about their friendship for like a decade now. I still have no idea what they say to each other. Yeah, how did this friendship even come to happen genuinely? Like, how did they really meet and head it off and become close friends? They linked up on first take and they both loved Aaron Rogers. And they just went from there. Yeah, I think like back when Wayne was coherent, he could actually like talk and like make good appearances.

But it's, I mean, it's cool though. Like, they met when they were coherent. They're both senile now now. Like, they can't really do much. So I guess they're, I guess that their friendship, you know, to lasting one. Shout out to Alex for $5. He said, I've watched all y'all's content since the beginning, and I finally caught a live stream. Keep up the great work.

I love every minute of it. Listen, we appreciate you watching. Thank you for watching. Catching a live stream in the dead of the offseason, it looks so hilarious. As this being the first time, because this is the worst time to catch them. Yeah, exactly. Next new story. first look at the Fox 1 from Curry brand

De Aaron Fox's first signature shoe Deeran Fox debuses his shoe on the Curry brand tour in China and will launch the Fox 1 later this year Did y'all get a chance to see these? I saw maybe two pictures of those This is one of the better pictures. It looks not terrible for the very first shoe. I'm not in love with the strap

but it kind of has like similar vibes to KD4s. Just worse. It's just worse. I didn't know Currish. brand was expanding like this interesting yeah and the spin-off brands are just never they never it they never worked it's like everybody all the Jordan athletes all of their shoes trash and like under armor you just making mellows oh yeah me those shoes they're not great shoes they're not good shoes you're talking me

you didn't have one good shoe the M7 was okay I wanted a pair of sevens but the but like the same you can kind of convince me that under armor has a couple shoes that are decent now once again we get into the spinoff i'm not a massive fan of this maybe maybe daren fox makes them look cool on court maybe they maybe they look better there than in this picture but i don't have a lot of hope i will say that right now i think i think i will be confirmed in my biases this colorway is disgusting i will say makes no sense. Why?

It's purple and white. It's, is it white or is it like... It's like a gray. Yeah, it's like a gray. Gray, purple, and green? Purple and green. Some neon, yeah.

What is that color? I don't know. It's not great. It's not great. The kings are purple and gray. Then you just throw it just a little splash. You know what I'm saying? A little splash that neon.

Yeah. Oh, Billy Loving Ginger, our most notorious donor up there with Kevin Glickey, donated $100. He said, for the dog and me being late. This is what happens when you're late. I hope you're late every time.

We appreciate you. Penny. Ginger donated. Hey, I'm about to get that dog back. I'm about to get that. Oh, my God. We're shaking this dog. You got that dog on the block right now.

Damn, baby. That's crazy. Next news story. Not really new story, but next tweet. One you got to go. Kevin Love, Chris Bosch, Amari Stademeyer, and Blake Griffin. The easiest way to answer this question

is asking who is absolutely staying. Blake Griffin has to stay in my mind. Yeah, Blake Griffin is the first one that's not getting cut to me. After that, the first one that's probably getting cut is Amari Stademeyer. Amari? For me, for me, my cuts were between Blake and Amari.

What? You're cutting Blake Griffin? Blake can never go. If we have to keep I just say, bro, give me Blake over Kevin Love easily. Yeah, in a heartbeat. Easily. In a heartbeat.

Instantly, 2015 playoffs, Blake Griffin, whatever he got, starting to get really skilled and still have athleticism, easily picking him over Kevin Love. Oh, y'all are forgetting. Y'all are forgetting what this chubby man was out here doing, right? Anything like that. Chubby Kevin Love before LeBron was like, hey, I need another ring. I just need you to go from your entire potential to just 60%, right? If he wasn't playing next to Kyrie and LeBron,

he could have done a whole bunch of the things that Blake Griffin was doing when he was being set up by Chris Paul. No, he couldn't. What do you mean? They're so different. You cannot. What do you mean? I'm talking about in terms of scoring,

in terms of scoring the basketball, in terms of facilitating an offense, in terms of being a go-to guy on a winning team, We never got to see Kevin Love do that because he was relegated to the third role. But the peak of Blake Griffin, let's not act like Kevin Love didn't have moments like that on his own. Sure, but I just think, like, on a basketball level, they just do very different things on the court. And what Blake Griffin does just translate to just like more consistency. What?

Consistent what? Bucket's what you mean. inside the paint, dunking on people's heads, grabbing rebounds, playmaking. Blake's a better playmaker. Blake,

even if you say their scoring is a wash and they're equal if they're both of their peak. It's not a wash. You're right, Blake's better. Blake's scoring has a higher peak.

And then playmaking obviously Blake's better. Defensively, obviously Blake's better. I'm struggling to find where you find value for Kevin Love besides three point shooting.

Yeah. First of all, the rebounding. If we're talking prime... Okay, that's your rebound. If we're talking primes, We're talking primes. I'm taking Kevin Love as a rebounder.

I'm taking Kevin Love as a score and as a shooter. He's not a very score as a 2015 Blake Griffin. And I'm not going to sit here and act like I didn't watch Blake Griffin get bullied year in and year out. Right. By whatever four was in the Western Conference. I'm not going to sit here and act like this Blake Griffin stuff that we're talking about. mo's over here talking like oh yeah at least to wins

least to more consistency consistency in what you're getting to be in the second round every single year you cannot do that you can't pull that card I'm not I'm not doing when the only reason Kevin Love

did anything of note is because he got trade to LeBron James' team that is a ridiculous card to pull when comparing him to Kevin Love it's not Blake Gryphins I'm not saying that Kevin Love is on this crazy high level I'm saying you can't say

that for Blake Griffin and it's a wash in terms of that. That's what I'm saying. I'm not I'm not going to say here a lie and be like yeah, Kevin Love could have did X, Y, and Z. No, you 100% could have at least snuck into the 18 one year. I get that. But I actually do think that like in my, in my opinion, in my estimation, here's where it would go. Bosch and Love prime, if we're talking prime, Prime, Bosch, and Love are the ones who are staying and then we're talking about Blake and Amari as the ones

who can potentially get cut. If you want to cut Blake or if you want to cut Amari out of that one, I'm fine with that. But I think that that's where the conversation should go. Wow. Okay. All right. Next new story.

I'm just happy we're in sync Bossess is staying. Yeah, boss is... 100%. Next new story. The Sacramento Kings are bringing back to 2002 through 2008 jersey this season, the Mike Bibby era,

the Pacea Stoyakovich era jersey. Are you excited to see these as a throwback? These are hard. I'm happy to have fun. I'm happy that they're having fun in the offseason in Sacramento. Because you have to be able to sell fans on something. Because selling a fan on a 50 win season, that's not going to happen, right?

You don't think you're going to have a 51 season? I 100% do not I I will put almost anything on the line that the kings will not win 50 games Chad let me see what do you guys think about the jersey are these jerseys good or is this w jersey because I don't know it is bad fire though they're hard to meet it's nostalgic but it's yeah I forgot you're obsessed with purple this is a nostalgic like 95% of these people on the stream I've never seen this jersey of real life. This jersey ended in 2008. Like, nobody's seen it.

This is just brand new. No, I saw these. I was like, oh, cool. I think I remember doing a TikTok on you or something like that. But I don't know that. She's fresh as hell to me, like new to my mind. Yeah. Yeah, I like them.

But don't sit here and lie to me. You guys are not proficient in Chris Weber. You guys, that's not, that's not your bag. And it's okay. That's fine. But they are cool jerseys. I do like this as part of the rotation. Yeah.

I like team having a throwback jersey just like available every year. Next tweet, the Buc, the 76ers' first seven games of the year is the Bucks, Raptors, Pacers, Pacers, Paisers, Pistons, Grizzly, Sons, Clippers. He gets got to predict their record. Let me see it. Yeah, I got it. One second. There it is. So, Bucks.

Yeah, old ass man. Bucks, Rappers, Pacers, Pistons, Grizzlies, Sons, Clippers. What is the record going to be for these first seven games? They'll beat the Bucks on opening night. I think so? I don't know, man. I think they will. The Bucs have more continuity.

I'm... Okay, so you guys go with your record. I'm taking the Bucks as a win, taking the Raptors as a win. Pacer's Pistons as a win. I'm taking... the grizzlies as a loss and i'm taking the suns as a loss and now i'm taking the clippers at the win okay okay so i'll go i'll go i'll go four and three four and three yeah i'm going okay four and three i'm going four and three as well probably i got them beating the raptors

pacer's pistons and also the clippers it's four and three and they're losing to the bucks Grizzlies The Sons? Yeah They're going to have such an interesting season, man Yeah It's this is It's a four and three or five and two start

Excuse me Well four and three I know my bad Four and three to five and two start I'd be shocked if they started six and one But like It's the early season of the NBA Everybody's going to be getting into their groove

And also the NBA is just weird where random wins happen at random time so it wouldn't even shock me if like that Pacers game ends up being some wild like 134-137 game and the Pacers end up winning so I'll give them the benefit but right now I'll go four and three shout to CS for life who tip $20 he said hot take Tom Brady has more aura than any other NFL player this is suddenly NFL podcast. That plastic surgery moves you. He got plastic surgery?

Oh, yeah. All the fillers. Chin filler, nose jaw, all of it. Damn. That jaw line is not what it once was. Damn, okay. I ain't even know that. That's not his.

That's not genetics. You're using the performance enhancers over here. Exactly. Next, okay, let's hate a little bit. Next tweet. Oh, what? I'm gonna sit up. Who is the Bryce Young of the NBA?

We are, we are an NFL podcast Just not that long ago Y'all did a TikTok about NBA to NFL player comparisons And everyone does that shit up Wait wait, wait, before you guys talk though Before I got before you guys We're wiping that up As someone who is not a hardcore NFL fan

And it's super casual How was Bryce Young's situation in Carolina? Okay, so he was drafted number one overall And I only was he the first pick in the draft they traded a fuck ton of assets to get him as in like giving up future first round picks like multiple years multiple second round picks just a haul to get him

to the point where he has to be amazing but when they drafted him he's 5, 9, 180 pounds so he's very small and there's a lot of concerns so he was already kind of iffy and he comes out he's horrible they give him one year and then two games and then they bench him

so it's just the worst draft pick of all time for a guy that had negative signs you still get up a ton for him and then he ends up being horrible and set you back a decade because of the draft fix? Forget the pre-draft science. If we're just talking about their career, he, Marquale Fultz comes to, comes to Maya.

When you think about a team trading up to go get a guy and then you bring him into your squad, and all of a sudden he can't shoot, he can't do the things that you thought he was going to do. And then the guy who fell right below him, right? He was traded essentially for Jason Tatum. The same thing for Bryce, the same thing for Bryce Young. Number two, C.J. Stroud is right there.

So, yeah, this is a, this is a Markell Foltz, Jason Tatum's situation. You know what it is? It's Markell Foltz. And then, so what was drafted after Markle Fultz? Okay. So what it is, you trade Jason Tatum and get Markle Foltz, but you also give up a first round pick the following year that turns into Luca Dantzich. That's what it is. Your traffic is just like Luca Dantzich. Because they had the number one pick that went to the Bears to get Caleb Williams.

So not only do you see somebody else, get the QB you should have picked but the next year your draft pick from your winless season goes to another team who gets their franchise guy so they basically lost out on like two what's it called

all pro quarterbacks for someone who's an absolute just nothing tire fire wow I was scrolling through this tweet and someone compared him to Kate Cunningham and I was like okay Carolina

oh hell not okay has some potential real potential Kate has showed so much more than Bryce Young. Bryce Young is actively for the first two games of the season by far the worst

player in the NFL at least a quarterback. What? The worst player? By far. He looked like he don't belong on the field?

They benched up for two games because he was that not belonging on the field. He looked like a high school quarterback out there that just, he, dude,

there was a one play that highlighted where he's so short, he did a jump pass to throw over his offensive line. He jumped up so we can see

over him and through it and that shit wasn't complete either. It didn't even work. Well, he's seen short quarterbacks have success in NFL

before. Russell Wilson Yeah, Russell Wilson is thick as fuck He weighs like 35 more pounds And it's a way better arm It's just different Damn Not too much

It's not his fault It's not his fault Everyone keeps saying that It is also his fault For not being good Both can be sure No, no I'm not giving him the blame

I'm sorry Bryce They set him up with poor situations But he also sucks It's both Because of a poor situation I'm listen I am a Bryce Young Apologist

I understand that this has to happen. We are not going down like this. Bryce Young, you have none of the blame on my eyes. I understand this. None of the blame. It's so easy to do that. If you're just going to immediately say it's a team, no matter what,

why do we watch the games? Why do players even try? Because all the others is the team apparently. Listen, you have a guy who is basic. We want to talk about equivalence. Think about when James Dolan was at his absolute worst. And that is who is running the Carolina. of Panthers. It's James Dolan times 10. I am not, I'm not going to do it.

Speaking of James Dolan is absolutely worse. Next to what we got on Carmelo Anthony's podcast, he said he would average 28 points per game on the current Knicks team. Is this true? Don't know. Hell no. Stop it. Stop. What? 28? Can I tell you why? Yes. Go ahead. Wherever Carmelo Anthony goes, he's averaging 28. Like, that is, that is his brand of basketball. He is there for no other reason than to average 28 points. It does not 27, not 29, not 30, 28. No, no. Like Prime Carmelo, he, his mindset is I have to score 28. I'm not going to say if it's going to be beneficial or detrimental to the team. I'm telling you, Carmelo Anthony is going to show up into the locker room and is going to say, all right, boys, let's lay some

up. Jalen, give me the ball in the high post because I have to get my 28. We're going to be midway through the first quarter. He's going to be like, all right, I took a jump shot here. I need to get two free throws. I got to get the three. I have to get my seven points per quarter so I can get 28 points per game. That's his mindset. That's how he feels. Let me catch up on some donuts real quick. Shout out to Alex for tipping $1. He said, by the way, Don convinced me that Duncan is top for all time, but I can't get behind Curry being over Kobe all time. listen that's not that's not my opinion so we're locked in i appreciate that shout to

walkie 37 for tipping three dollars he said moe is back i thought for sure isa i kicked you out of the squad after that goofy most viable player ranking i'm unkippable what do you mean i'm one of the founding fathers how could i be kicked shout to kevin gulicki returning dono for tip him fifteen dollars he said mo brought out his or Gilbert Arenas in the MVP list. How do you have Zion Lamello, Chet, and Booker overtate him? Not going to lie, that is the crazy. That's the last person.

Damning. Gilbert Arenas in 2024 podcasting Gilbert Arinas, that is the worst name to be compared to. Next to someone commented, Mo is too thick to kick. I was I about to tell. What does I mean? They say you are too thick, you're too thick to kick out. Oh. Would you stay on for the, for the aura?

For the eeks. The yeeks. Oh my God. The heeks are disgusting, bro. Okay. That is the end of our new stories. So, we're going to do what we came here to do today. We're going to draft the most exciting players in the NBA.

But, but, but, before we get to, that. We're going to do a quick TikTok. Oh, I see that. A little game of sorts. What you guys are going to do is I'm going to show you guys some NBA 2K-25 ratings. And I want you to guess which team it is just based on them. Okay. NBA 2K-25 ratings.

Yep. Interesting. So, you know, you guys know how it goes. We've done this before. We did it with past 2Ks. We're doing it for the first time with 2K-25. Should be interesting. Yeah, man. Let's see what's going on. Let's make sure you guys can see my screen. I forget I got to share with you guys. that power rate zero oh yeah goldberg so chat i want you guys to help out on this

chat i want you guys to spam in the comments donovan mo you guys don't look at the chat let them do their thing guess the NBA team by their 2k by their 2k 25 ratings who is this team all right so you got a wing we guard you got a wing as the star though yeah so point guard you got 8082 992 star star shooting guard. Oh, this makes so much sense to me. 84 centers, 77 small Ford. This makes so much sense to me.

When you think about the best centers, I mean, not the best centers, the best two guards in the league, there's three options that come up. There's Anthony Edwards. There's Devin Booker. There's Donovan Mitchell. I'm going to say that that's DeMitch, that the 86 is Evan Mobley, that the Evan Ford is Jared Allen. I think that people are hating and sleeping on Darius Garland

Because of the last year Darius Garland as an 82 is disgusting That's like damn near I don't know what Tyler Hero is But like that's Tyler Hero type category territory It's been like a year and a half It's been like a year and a half since we've seen Peak Dary and Garland

Darius Garland Dary and Garland I don't love that, my dad Yeah I can see the vision 86 for Evan Moblee Okay I don't know if he's better than Jared Allen still. I don't know how I feel about that just yet.

As a talent, probably, but on the court, I don't know. Exactly. But you're right. This is the Cleveland. Well. Donovan, you are correct. This is the Cleveland Cavaliers. What they've done to my son, Darius Garland, is ridiculous.

One off year where he breaks his jaw in half, and suddenly he's like, so suddenly he's T.J. McConnell. Like, what are we talking about? Is Dary's Garland in the same age as this? Yes. Yeah, he is. Oh, no, he's a year younger than us. Our son, there he is garlic.

Oh. I don't know, bro. Disgusting. That's ridiculous. That's one of the worst ratings in all of 2K this year. 82 is absurd. I understand the falloff that he had a rough year. 82 is disgusting.

82's like calling him barely a starter. Well, yeah, or just, just. an average like decent player like come on all right next team who is this team point guards 84 shooting guards 79 the team is trash 77 uh power for it 82 nice wing 92 wing okay that wing's a baller baller yeah this team is mid as fuck who we thinking about though oh wait time out though i think i got it I think I think I got it Okay

Someone said this is the Pistons My guy, the Pistons had a 92 of Rarling team They would not be the worst team in the league Okay I don't know Now I don't know if this is the updated version Or whatever But

This is fully updated Fully updated Okay That 92 There's a guy That I think is going to make A jump this season And I think that that 92 is very much

deserved Stay with me I think that that's Palo Van Kero. Oh, excellent guess. Wrong as hell. That is a small forward. You think where's the four?

There's a 77 or 79 now, yeah. I mean, no, listen, that three-point shout was, it could drop him down. I'll tell you that. Not that far. God damn. When I look at Franz Wagner right now, 79. Oh, my God. Hater.

Wow. 82 is so average and basic. 84's like okay you're cooking 92 stands out to me who wants some of the best small fours in the NBA right now Bron it's not the Lakers it's not oh shit oh something just went off on my head

I got you this might be the Los Angeles Clippers Correct is the Los Angeles Clippers Yeah James Harman with the 84 Donovan they only gave you a 79 overall Man shut up that's not me

That's not me. That's disgusting. Norman Powell's a bucket. They don't know nothing. They don't know. Norman Powell can't score. He is like that. Yeah, genuinely, he's a walking bucket.

He's not a 79. We got to get Norm Powell on the show, man. I don't know if anybody likes Norm Powell the way do we do. The Spider-Man meme. Next team. Who is the team in pink? What? This is a well-rounded team

Okay, 93 overall point guard 84 shooting guard 85 power forward 84 small ford Small Ford's own me off a little bit Wait actually no it's not This might be the New York Knicks Wow

That is the fastest one today This is the New York Knicks You got it before Donovan Donovan do you have any apologies? Apologies? No Why? For what? For what?

Mo's a better Knicks fan than you I know more than you The 93 threw me off I thought Jenna Brunswick was like a 96 You're disgusting Blazor Next up Who is this team

Again 9 point guard 79 shooting guards What point guards are in hell Because this guy This guy is clearly good but the rest of his team is shackled by mid.

The Hawks. Yeah, this is a hawks. Oh! Taylor and Johnson are at a 79. This can't be the Hawks. He's an 80. No! Oh, they put him at the 3.

Maybe I mistyped it, but yeah, this is the Hawks. Let me see. No, this can't be the Hawks. Let me see. Did I type that wrong? Yeah, this has to be wrong. Jail and Johnson cannot be a 79.

No way they made it with 79. No, I think it might have been an 80. I think I might have put him in the wrong. position. Let's see. Damn, so 80? Yeah, Janet Johnson's 80. And I put DeAndre Hunter at the Power Forward. This could either be the Hawks or like the Hornets or something shit, like literally.

And I would lean towards the Hornets just because. Yeah. Everyone's spamming the poop emojis for the Hawks. Oh, damn. I said this can't be the Hawks. He said this is the Hawks. Why? I don't know.

See Mid, no Mid, Atlanta Hawks. Like it should immediately be in your brain. It did. So I ain't playing 2K no more. None of my homies probably 2K anymore. All right. Next team.

Who is this team? Star Power forward. You got a great front line going. Really a good team. I know who this is in a heartbeat. This is the New Orleans Pelicans. You think you know everything. Look at you.

You don't know a damn thing. This is not the New Orleans Pelicans. How? Wait, oh, you're right. The centers, they don't got no center right now. They don't got no center right now. Daniel Tice is their center right now. Shit, you could be their center right now.

Might as well be. They put on a few pounds. Like, I'll bang down low. Yeah. Wow, this is not the orange pelicans. Okay. So 82 point guard, 78 shooting guard, 89 power forward, 86 small Ford.

To me, this one is fairly easy. I'll say that. I think I know who this is, and I think it's a team that Don referred to earlier. This is the Orlando Magic. This is the magic. This is the Orlando magic. There we go.

We finally got them on the board. Wow. Okay. He was going to say it. Like he do. I was, I was thinking it, but I didn't think. Oh, naturally. I didn't think that Franz was an 86th.

All right. Yeah, you've been hating. All right. Next up. Who is this team? 78. Well, this team is trash. 78 overall point guard.

81 shooting guards, 79 power forward, 81 center, 77 powerful. Is this the Houston Rockets? Oh, that disrespectful was held. What, no? No. I think I know who it says. I'm just shooting it in the dark. This might be the Portland Trail Blazers.

This is not the Portland Trail Blazers. This is the Pistons? This is not the Pistons. You're just making cave like that? This the Nets. This is the Brooklyn Nets led by Camtons. The worst teams. He's just name of the worst teams.

Everyone in the chat was fan of the Wizards. They were next. They run through all the shitters. Eventually, it'll be right. Wow. Okay. Cam Thomas and Nick Claxton. What a duo.

God. They're so bad. That's the best way to put it in your God. That's the duo. Kill me. Next team. Who is this? Okay, ooh, 97 point guard, 92 shooting guard, 79 power forward, 81 center, 81, small forward, okay.

Who do you play four guards in the league? Oh, is this? Oh, 97, there's only like 3.97 in the league. This is the Dallas Mavericks. That's Luca and Kyrie. Yeah, Luca and Kyrie. Incorrect, this is not the Dallas Mavericks. What?

No way. Yeah, you know, I'm a liar. That was Mavericks. Exactly. No way. No way. I'm due for a lot. 97 is a point guard.

Clay's an 81? Nice. Yes, he is. For now. Too high. Put that man in an 80. That one number really does a few. I don't like seeing it.

Next up, who is this team? Okay. 90 overall points. Guard, okay, 80 overall shooting guard, 87 power forward, 72. Ooh, 72 starting center, and 83. Yuck.

72 is nasty. Just a hole in the lineup. A huge hole. I don't know if this is accurate, though. 72 sounds crazy. Who is the worst center in the league, though? Like, if we're saying 72 as the started? No, trust you. There's

worse as a starter have you seen jackson hayes i don't know if this is i think this is the memphis i think this is the memphis There's no way in hell. That's 72. Zach Edie's not a 72. He's just not going to be 72. I'm sorry. This is the Memphis Grizzlies. They are sleeping on our guy, Zach Edie.

It is disrespectful. He's 72? I mean, he's a rookie. They're going to start him off low, but he'll quickly rise up the ranks. Yeah. Doesn't Bade Meen at 83 is disgusting, too, I believe. Marcus Smart, I think they put him at the...

Which is, I don't know if he'll actually start there because it's spacing, but... Yeah. yeah how quickly they will be proven wrong by zachary ede zachary do you think next team bright colors right okay so we got an 84 point guard 84 shooting guard 80 power forward 85 center okay the center is the best player on this team and a 79 but not by much yeah this is a pretty balanced team respectable okay

84 point guard 80 so this seems like really middle in the pack and they're not doing too much but they're not like trash either can we miss a descriptor now they're not 85 is damn near an all-star center

85 is damn near an all-star center this is a top center in the league do you think that this would be see not the two's kind of throwing me off because I want to And maybe I'm being disrespectful to Deon Fox. But the Sacramento Kings are kind of coming to my mind right now.

Nah, there's not. Darren Fox is a bonus. To a lot of people. This is not the second one of the second one. That's crazy. Okay. 84, 84 and 85. So who are like the man?

I will say, you've described this team perfectly. I don't know how have you guys not gotten it yet? What was Jared Allen's rating? It was like an 84 or something like that? Who's in Jared Allen's territory? Yeah, it was 84. Well, we're talking about Star Centers? St. Goon.

Oh, shit. Oh, is it the Houston Rockets. Oh, shit. It's all making sense. This is the Houston Rockets. Jalen Greene is in 84? Yep, somehow. Jailen Green is in 84.

It's crazy. I told you the shooting guard was throwing me off. He should not. He should not. Four. He should not be there. Yeah, he should not be one overall, less than Sanguin. That is insane.

Nor should Fred Van Bleet. Like, they're both kind of hot. Yeah, Fratman V. 84 is kind of just... Wait, you're telling me Fred Van Vleet is better than Darius Garland? Yeah, get out of my face too good. Oh, get the fuck out of my face. Oh, no. No.

We might have the right. Fred Van Vleet. I love the guy. I love his story. came from the D League once upon a time we go hold the G Lee or whatever but oh my god that's unbelievable never in a million years next team we're going through the whole league I got 10 of them 88 overall point guard he nice 80 overall shooting guard 80 overall shooting guard 80 overall

power forward 88 center okay this team is nice 87 power or a small forward okay we got three capital D dudes on this team yeah and then two other nice guys okay see i'm gonna be disrespectful is this the philadelphia 76ers shut the fuck up you know that well he's not he got a big three okay i go i might be cooked with this one i like i see 88 87 is this somehow the Sacramento Kings? This is the Sacramento King. No, you're lying.

This is the Sacramento Kings. The big three out west. How is, come on, man. DeMartero's in an 87 overall? Yeah, man. And y'all wonder, y'all wonder why I don't play this game. I mean, honestly, I mean, it's not that crazy. I don't think Subonis should be necessarily to be an 88, but I understand why.

You know, you put up stats. DeMars 87 isn't crazy. DeMars 87. I'm just gauging it. on how much better you are than Darius Garland. And I guess they're like extreme level of... The Darius Garland litmus test. Yeah, exactly.

And I'm sorry, but he's not that much better than Darius Garland. Five overall points. We got to move past Darius Garland. It's clear that that was stupid as hell. We can't. We can't. Never. We can't.

They put it in the game. They released it. They expected us to believe that. I'm going to ride for Daryan. Dary and Garland. That's my guy. All right, man. That's the end of that.

The next thing we're going to do. We're going to do the main topic of the episode today. What we're going to do is we're going to draft the most exciting players in the NBA. So we're going to make full starting lineups and full benches with the idea being that's make the most fun teams possible. And then you guys are going to gauge who won.

Who is the first pick? The first pick is me, then Mo, then Donovan. And keep on, you have a bench, too. Yeah, I should go on my name. I don't know if this changes the way you want to pick, but you've got a bench to worry about as well. okay this one I like it

let's dance yeah let's dance let's dance let's dance so fun can mean anything you all literally anything I need to put up for us

not necessarily the best players in the entire NBA because who wants to watch like Drew Holiday that's not entertainment value I'm sorry I love Drew Holiday's game or Derek White's game

but they're not getting drafted yeah Well, with my first pick, I think it's going to be fairly easy. If I'm going for blockbuster, excitement, night tonight can light up the court, give me Steph Curry. Yeah, okay. Great pick. Love it. I am consistent.

I know what I'm getting from Steph Curry. I know what I'm getting and I know what's going to be fun. Okay. I love it. As long as I surround him with confident NBA players, we're cooking. Okay, that's fair. Give me probably the best point guard in NBA. right now. Give me Luca Donches. Yeah, I'm cooking in several levels as well, whether it be

my scoring, the wacky shots that I'm hitting over people, or the fantastic pass. Someone said, please draft Gigi Jackson, I'm begging you. Why? That's probably Gigi Jackson right now. Who is doing that? We have 12 spots, so it might work. It might work out. Okay. All right. give me Lucas is an interesting pick Lucas is obviously the best point guard at the league right now but is he more fun than some of the other guys

No I'm listening dropping 73 against the Hawks is pretty fun I had a fun time watching The passing and how he's been shooting it these days So fun Are you kidding me

But is he more fun Don't let him lose weight too Don't the other day I saw some Luca dauntage Like your highlights He's not Back when he used a dunk Oh my God

I promise you That version of Luca Donchis is not coming back We are never getting Who cares? He's better now Everybody wants that Who gets the shit? He's better now

I don't care Because it's more fun that way Is it? Why? I don't even know Why people are so focus on that People just assume he'll be better If he's as good as he is now

Plus skinny But like I don't know Maybe being big And having the strength Helps is why he's so much better now Nobody's asking Nobody's talking about better

We're just saying more fun Yes they are though people swear that he's like washed he's like not better now it's crazy washed it's hilarious if you can jump by that that would be fun but

all right don't who are your two picks give me give me Anthony Edwards okay that's that was in contention for the first overall pick and just because

I can't go another round with and have the possibility of you guys think give me Give me Victor Wimba, y'all. Ah, damn. I can't do it. I can't do it.

He needs to be on my team. As soon as I picked his curry, I was like, oh, fuck. I forgot about Wembe. No. Yeah. Yeah, you did. Okay. Okay.

Okay. Listen, Donovan is starting off strong. He's starting off as the favorite to win this, but there's a lot of picks left for him to sell. I told you, round nine, that's where it starts to get scary for me. It's why I get nervous. Okay. All right. When it comes to fun, someone who's given us over a decade of fun.

Let me write down to a lot. Damn, there are two decades of fun. Go ahead and give me LeBron Jay. Fuck, I'm about the picture, too. There we go. I cannot let Curry and LeBron make more noise. They just had the entire summer to themselves. Let's end that right now.

Damn. Well, you know what? Am I allowed to play people out of position? Yeah. Yeah. We're just drafting 12 guys. We're just drafting dudes. Say, guys.

We don't need lineups. Again, it's, unorthodox but we're just talking fun who would be really cool next to Steph Curry and an all-star game type of scenario he said Clay John Morantz give me John Morantz Ah, okay, damn

Okay, we're jumping Okay, okay And you know who just looks like fun As I would love to pair LeBron with Curry That would have been a cheat code But if I already have John at Curry I got my small guys and you guys are fill in the blanks

While still being fun Give me Kevin Durant three Okay Okay Just think about those three guys together Jaw KD and Curry I love that I love that all of that Okay

Got Jha with the two best shooters Like two iconic shooters next to Jaws It's just gonna look cool to see these three names together Okay Damn Okay so I got Luca LeBron I'm just an old head Like Kevin Durant's 50

Go ahead and give me Nicola His passing alongside LeBron And Luke is just disgusting You have no speed at all You have straight European basketball We don't need speed We don't need speed bro The passing is going to be beautiful

Just straight He's everywhere up Down, left, right, every direction Yeah, we're just Throw in someone said I have three good shooters In my team, oh my God Yeah, you're throwing Hella behind the back passes

That's your whole team You got the globechrotters Hmm, okay Don't sell no No, no No, no Let me go with underrated fun here I really want some high flyers though

And we're playing guys out of position Whatever at my point guard Give me Donovan Mitchell Oh, you took my pick You got a bouncy back court Okay Listen Keep the hops coming

At my four, give me Zion Williams Fuck man You're getting all the people I want I should have picked him earlier I was thinking about him or Katie right dunks okay damn

okay let me write that down yeah I need I need a guy I need guys I need I need to I need to

I'm right done okay that's what I'm missing from my team right now honest you guys got like

all the bouncy guys the bouncy guys in league and ant jaw okay in terms of straight fun

and being a legit spark plug I need someone who's electric give me Malik Monk at my starting two He has serious bounce That's not bad That's not bad I do understand I do understand

I'm not bad I'm gonna do something else That's a little unorthodox Going straight to my bench Give me Jalen Green is my six man That's good Jayling me out the bench Just jumping just flying through the air

That's very good. And then on my center, I'm going to go something that we've been one to see. That'll be very exciting to see with a bunch of shooters. Give me Janus at center. Ooh, you took my pick. You took my pick. I was just thinking, like, how it's weird how late that he's fallen. I like that, though.

Wow. Yeah, Janus is going to be my center. Damn. Okay, okay. I like that. I like that. I like that. So next, I can fill up my power four position.

but I don't feel like I have the need to do that. In terms of straight, fun, who's going to make the most appearances on House of Highlights for good or wrong reasons? Give me Jordan Poole, am I one? I will appeal you and I'll give you a different type of fun. I'll give you a different type of fun. I'll entertain you, all right?

Yeah, exactly. I might not get a lot of buckets, but best believe the cameras will be on me. okay uh all right we're gonna go i'm gonna do the same thing guys we're gonna go to the bench gonna fill out my my back court bench you want to talk about house of highlight merchants give me lamella ball ah damn damn and then i too give me the most skilled player of all I'm here. I'm here. I'm here. I'm here. I'm here. I'm here. How did we let Kyrie drop so far? I'm here. I'm here. I picked Drew. I'm here. I'm here. I was focused on Charlie too hard. I just saw the chat say Kyrie and I was like, oh, fuck, we forgot.

And then Donovan saw it too and he took him. No, I don't listen, I'm on my notes right now. I'm not looking at the chat. Ah, so is a Don, Don maybe the goat. This is me. Don't just pulled from D if you on. God damn it. Okay. No, no, no, no. Don't play for second place.

Don't, don't give it. Okay, okay, my bad. You can calm down. Okay. Reconvene, reconvene, Ricky, reconvene. Okay. In terms of fun. In terms of fun.

Go ahead. Sleeper. But go ahead and give me Trey Young alongside Jordan Cool coming off. Ah, that's not fun. That's fun for you. Glazer. Hell, no, what you mean?

That's not fun. The deep freeze and the lobs? One of the best law passes in the league? No, yeah, you got it. We want to have fun. We want to talk about fun and getting buckets and entertainment. Give you camp Thomas on my bench with Jalen Greene. There you go.

Oh, that's disgusting. It's the combination of those two on my bench just chucking. You have the both skilled players of all time come off the court, and here comes the goons, ready to take off the jubble jumpers. Okay, okay. That is not bad. That's not bad. Who don't want to put a power forward?

I still have one started to fill in. uh who's fun i want to do something so bad no what i'm gonna do i'm gonna put yonis back to power forward give me chet as my center just because him and yonis just like seeing the skinny dude with the big dude

it would just be funny that's nerdy fun i like that see that that's multiple types of fun you're playing some different crowds just wait i got more coming to comment that don't worry okay you know what i ain't go why i don't know why need a big to counter out that big give me Zach Edie coming off my bench oh he's a good big him coming in for 10 15 minutes a game dude is huge he is the only one who could match up potentially with wemby length for length he's a great thing okay okay all right we're gonna fill out my

we're gonna fill out the starting lineup right now there's you know whenever superheroes jump into action right spider man starts going somewhere, music starts playing. Superman comes to save the day. You hear the music. I need somebody with a theme song. Give me Paul George at my three. Okay.

Wait, Paul George has a theme song? Oh, yeah. You forgot already? You didn't know? How's it go? You weren't outside last September. What? Oh, yeah.

See, you're not a true Paul George fan. You're not a true Paul George fan. You wouldn't get it. I'm out of the loop. Okay. I really don't. Okay. And then

And then with my next pick Sometimes there's a art There's a lost art And just saying Hey I have a couple moves And you can't stop it I'm just going to hit you with this move Over and over and over

And that's what SGA does To people in the mid-rame I'm going to get to my spot Over and over and you won't stop me Give me Shee Gildjus Alexander On my bench I think She's an easy pick For picking like a great player

But Most fun You already got Kyrie and Lemello there. SGA's me kind of floating around. I'm not sure that's going to be a fun product. Yeah, no. You know, it will be a fun product. I got LeBron there.

I got Yolkish there. I got Luther. I have the top two guys in ORA on my team. The team is fun. The team is fun now. On the court, off the court, the Instagram is going crazy. I got it. Okay.

I got an enforcer on my team who's going to ruin your aura. I'm going to tell me to put hands on your guys. No. No. Draymond Green. Welcome to my starting four position. Protect Luca. Protect LeBron and do all you can to protect Yolk it.

Ah, you ruin my plan. You mother fucking. Let's do it. Okay. Ah, I needed that. Damn, damn, damn. I didn't have a backup plan. First of all, I'm going to have chat out there.

I want to have a funny looking, crazy looking lineup when he plays with bench players. Give me Christos for Zingis. Oh, okay. We just got these two white giants out there together on the bench. Okay. I like the strategy. And you know what? I'm going to stay on theme. Can we

T.J. Bacotto? That's underweregis. Y'all see where he's at. Y'all see his bag. Y'all see how he moves. It's not something that we're just pulling out of thin air. This is what I just believes. This is how he thinks basketball should be played, right? DJ, people, just thinking about you're the best players of all time out here.

You have Kevin Durand. We're doing a most fun and exciting draft. And he said, T.J. McConnell. I bet you got these giants. You got Chad, K.D. Yonis Curry. And then T. McConnell in the corner. Just trying real hard, boxing out. It'll be hilarious.

No, you're talking about trying real hard, boxing out. I'm going to go ahead and get a Puerto Rican demon. Jose Alvoretto Let's go again Say that one more time I said Alvoretto Oh my God That's a good pick

I like that How embarrassing Congratulations I'm trying to I'm trying to think here I'm trying to think here Now If we're just saying

Most fun We might never ever We might never ever see this guy play basketball again but if Mo has Draymond Green as the enforcer I just want him on my team give me James Johnson

He's just on the bench for intimidation purposes He's just standing up whenever something goes down They show James Johnson for five seconds Every game and he's just Armed Folded like a like a bouncer And everybody and everybody knows I'm not going to do that So I have the same purposes of the pit bulls

He's just going to be there for guard purposes. That's it. And then I just, you know what? I just want a maniac on my team. I want somebody who is crazy and I need somebody who's going to do all the

dirty work. Give me Jalen Suggs. Okay. Okay. That's great. I like that. He's fun. He's fun. When he's locked, when he's locked in defensively, he will run through five screens, tackle anybody, and get up and just yell at the crowd. I like watching Jalen Suggs play. Okay.

I respect it. Okay. That's actually a great pick. I got my own forces. I got James Johnson and I got Jalen Suggs. There's not a lot of size on the bench, but it's okay. It's her fun of that. I remember where we're going?

Okay. ah man so i got a really really big dude and then a bunch of little guys around him coming off the bench so i probably should select a wing but i need a high flyer i need someone who's going to go lob for lob with the anthony edwards of the world design williams of the world and etc so with that being said go ahead and give me derrick jones junior from the l.A. clippers. Okay. Yeah, he's a high flyer. Listen, I already have all the

tallest, longest players in the world besides Wembe. Give me bowl bowl. Let's keep it going. Yeah, you still. You still. You still. Give me bull, bull, bull. And listen, I need a up and down, run up and down, fast point guard to keep everything together on the bench. Give me Halliburton.

Okay. Okay. That's fun. He's not going to play. He's not going to play. He's not going to do anything. You know what? if we're on that type of timing donovan go ahead and give me brawny james i need some me there and get me buzz i love it house of highlights yeah there we go brony put that shit on when you're sitting on the bench go ahead throw you that a lob we're going crazy that a lot i forgot you got lebron that's perfect yeah that's good that's good that's good

all right there's a certain archetype of player that everybody loves to see succeed you got your guys like zach randolph got you guys you know like big baby davis all right a certain brand of player give me kenny loftin junior all my best because when he gets going everybody loves to see that everybody loves to see it you love to see you love to see you love to see you love to see you love to see you love to see your gibbies, just get bucket. As what you, exactly, that's what you like to see. So I'm going Kenny Laughan, Jr. And then somebody asked, listen, I was going to do some fan service and take GD Jackson

Jr. I'm not doing that. Give me somebody who, give me somebody who's just fast. I want Tyrese Maxie on my team. Okay, that's a good big. Okay, cool. All right, chat, I'm lean on y'all for my last pick. this is a pick that you guys get to make whatever y'all spam the most i give you all a little bit of time i'm gonna go ahead and select so but while that is in mind i do kind of need a wing i already

my guard spots are full i got jose alvarado brawny trey young and jordan pool they're over here spamming than i have no size on my bench yeah it's james johnson and it's two guys who don't play it at all Okay. There's two names that I see getting spammed like crazy. One of them, he's not fun. But in terms of being supportive, I was going to do that. Why did you ask chat? I was going to do this. I'm a man of the people. Go ahead and give me the Nassi Sant'a de Kumpo. Welcome back to the league. I need him to distract his brothers. All the ethnic names. That's the first one you pronounce right. I see you. I feel you. That's fine.

You could pick the nassus. If you want to pick the most out of the box and to the cumbos, you didn't do a good enough job. Give me costus. Who? Costis at the cumpo, the other one. Okay, it must be one of his cousins, so I'm cool. These are our lineups. Yeah, I'm going to start a poll.

You guys let us know who has the most exciting team, as I've phrased this. yeah who won someone said you forgot Alex yeah nobody drafted Alex that's an atrocity damn sorry honest it's been a great bit for someone to draft every single onto the coup oh my goodness who do you guys think what I've just been notified I've just been notified we have NBA City Edition jerseys yes they've leaked I'm saving them for the episode this week so if you want to see that I know I know tune in okay And obviously, the poll started

and Donovan already has 73% of the votes. Yeah! Dude, Wembe, Zahn, and Ant is just like clear wash. Lebello off the bench and Kyrie, we had no chance. Kyrie's the game was over. Yeah. Love that.

Well, that was that. Donovan wins by clear decision and no more need to have a count. The next thing we're going to do, Donovan. I believe you have a debate for us to talk through. Yes. So I want you guys to hear me out because I've been thinking a lot.

Obviously, the season is ramping up. And I don't know if this is just terminal offseason brain and I'm overthinking stuff. But right now, I don't think the Milwaukee Bucks are going to be a top four seed in the Eastern Conference. Top four? That come on. I think we will see Boston. I think we will see New York. I think we will see Philly.

and then I think we're going to see either Cleveland or Orlando I think all five of those teams have at least especially with Cleveland and Orlando have a very very good shot of knocking the bucks out of the top four

did you uh did you forget Orlando wow yeah he must have forgot what who the fuck Janice Antenacou is are you out of your mind Mind, Janus is not going to be below a four seed.

I'm, here's what is the last how that happened. Here's all I'm saying. Last year, the three seed, the bucks, 49 wins. The five seed, 47 wins. They are decided by... They are decided by two games. And if you think that the magic who got themselves KCP, who have another year of Apollo, you know, improvement,

who have what we are. all expect will be a bounce back season from from franz wagner everything is moving forward for them they have a very very good shot of repeating the same amount of wins or getting better you talk about the cleveland cavaliers yes they went on this insane run they are going to finally get a healthy darius garland we will see if evan obli decides that he wants to shoot threes even if he's just taking two a game that's that's progression right we're starting to to get somewhere and They brought it. They, you know, they drafted some guys.

You see, I have Max Drews there, all that stuff. The Cavs are not a bad regular season team. They also fired. They have a new coach. So we'll see where that's going to take them. I think that Orlando and Cleveland can do it. And I look at Milwaukee. And I see, honest, yes.

I see a very old and broken down Chris Middleton. Yeah. I see a Dame, a Dame Lillard, who we are hoping that last season was an aberration because of all the stuff that I was going on, new, you know, new situation. Maybe it's just growing pains with him and Janus. They get a full offseason. Maybe that's the case. And maybe they come out like aim busters and they end up being the number three seat.

But it's kind of a real concern that they don't play well together. And then you look at their five. It's O'Brick Lopez. You also look at the bench. Yes, you got Gary Trent. You need him to step up a lot. You look at Tori and Prince. Need him to step up a lot.

The depth isn't really there. I think that if one thing goes wrong for the for the bucks it can all spiral and it doesn't even have to be honest getting hurt it could be anything all of that can spiral go downhill they might not be a top 14 next year yeah I mean I guess and I think about the worst case scenario for them and the best case scenario for everybody else than sure but I feel just as confident that all the things you said

that Damien will look better I felt just as confident that'll happen as I do as the best case scenario for other teams you know like I don't think that's a unlikely wishful thinking thing. I think it makes total sense of why he performed poorly last year. And to me, it stands to reason that he'll look a little bit better next year. Now, not to side with Donovan,

but something that really does scare me is Chris Middleton. I think we heard that he got like ankle surgery or something like that. On both ankles. Oh, both of them. Nuts. That is nuts.

That is nuts. And they said that they dropped that news so casually, like it was just nothing. Chris Middleton is so key and essential to this team because he's one of the, yeah, both ankles is nuts. I ain't going to lie, once last time we were heard, a player getting surgery on both ankles. What happened?

What moment in the season or what happened in practice for it to just, they said, they said, right, that it was really just one ankle that was like messed and messed up. And then they're like, oh, while we're down here, let's just clean up the other one. No ankles is ridiculous for a guy that's already been so, so injury prone. you look at dame he's 34 years old he's really getting up there and i think that for cleveland and for orlando best case scenario for them is probably like three seed and it's them getting to like 52 wins or something like that i don't think that i don't think that the

worst case scenario for the bucks is them being outside of of the top four i think that things can go really really wrong and they can they can miss you know they can miss some time and be all the way down at six like i think i think that would be worst case scenario would be them at six you know fighting for for their playing playoff life whatever i do think that it's that it's very real and that a lot of the stuff that that you are asking especially for for the magic i i'm really high on them and the fact that you got kCP there even if even if franz vaughner just doesn't know how to shoot the addition of kCP is going to allow you to to to have just more spacing on a night-to-night basis, and that's obviously going to, that's worth at least

one win. I'm going to give KCP that. And when the margin is, two wins, I think that it's like, that's extremely valuable. I don't, I don't think that the butts right now are a team that we should be looking at and being like, yeah, they are a team to, like, we should be scared of them. I think that they have to prove themselves the same way that a lot of other teams do. Chad, what do you guys think? I want to chat, spam, what seed you think?

the bucks are going to get next year. Yeah, I think you're underrating the addition of someone like Gary Trent, Jr., who's legit one of the best wide open shooters in the NBA. And if there's anything that's going to happen while he's in Milwaukee, obviously Giannis is probably the best driver to the rim in the entire NBA that we've seen in a minute since, like, probably Prime LeBron or whatever. And then Damien Lut is right there as well, not to mention the spacing that Brooke Lopez provides.

So I think Gary Trent, his like little 13 points per game or whatever is he's going to average, It's going to be Uber efficient, and that's going to help open up a lot alongside the things that Delon Wright provides, because he's a nice, steady, solid backup point guard who is not going to clearly lose minutes for them as well. I think as long as Dame, of course, like what you said, it goes back to Dame and yon, so as long as Dame is, like, healthy, I think everything will work out for ourselves and be fine, even though, like, Chris and also may not be the guy, but I think the supplements of Tori and Prince Jr., Gary Trent, more importantly, and Delon, right, everything will be all right. yeah i mean i'm with you that i think they're not going to be top tier i think the top tier in the west is i mean east is clearly celtics as a tier of their own and then 76ers nix that's kind of like the next up teams up but i don't think that i think the bucks are closer to those two teams and they are to the magic and to the calves and whoever else maybe the calves could change that discussion if evan mowgli makes a big jump like that could be a seismic leap that makes them

like closer to the first tier maybe if he can start shooting but I'm sooner going to assume that Damien Lillard looks better and healthier than I am that Evan Mowley comes out shooting threes, you know? And KCP is awesome. I fuck with KCP heavy. Again. CCP's not changing the magic lie. I said one win.

I said one win. I think he's worth that. I think he's worth that. I don't know to quantify. If we are, if we're saying that like that Tori and Prince and Gary Trent Jr. are going to be able to come in and like their, you know, 12, 13 points per game, Torian Prince, his like seven points a game, whatever, all that is going to be able to help

the bucks get to, you know, like break out of that third tier and get into that 76ers next tier. If they are worth that, I'm sure the addition to KCP and the continuity and having Jonathan Isaac, like a lot of the stuff for the magic specifically, their improvement is going to to be internal. And so it's not like, oh, how is KCP going to, going to fit here? It really is, hey, we have Jonathan Isaac already in here. Instead of playing 20 minutes a game, what if we play him 25? You have Franz Wagner. And then this needs break. You have, you have Franz Wagner who was a solid shooter, right? Or at least not like as bad as he was last year, can he be six percent better and get back to like, you know, like decently trashed? Like that, that level of,

He's going to be trash. You know what I'm saying? Like, can he get back to that level? But he's also already in the building. And you've seen him do it before. And he's also not 34 years old. So I think that the magic have a little bit more going for them than the Bucs do. And right now, I may, listen, I may change my mind.

I may go through everything and they ultimately settle on the Bucks being in the top three, in the top four. But if we're already saying Celtics, Nix Sixers and there's one spot left, Yeah, the NBA season is mad long And I don't think that That's like a clear cut That the bucks are gonna be that top four seed Yeah, it's not crazy right? Like you said, it's this whole margin of air

So it's not insane They finish five It's not gonna be like earth shattering But I don't know I mean It might be if you have if you have Janus on your team The expectation should be that you can Play at home for at least the first round of the

No you're right It would be disappointment for sure But I can envision you being right And they'd be a disappointment I think after last year That's like That's on the table you know that's not unforeseen

but I don't know I mean the end of the day I'm gonna assuming health which is a big assumption for everybody actually you know what I think I'm with you if you gotta assume health

for everybody and it's tight and you look at the team that has their superstar who has not been healthy at the year for the last two years an old small point guard an oldest fuck center and a frail small forward if you have to assume health for everybody

and you got to bet against somebody's health that's probably the team you want to bet against so that's a good reason the one the one thing that you can tell me that would say like hey the bucks are going to be this is that at least in the regular season doc rivers has been able to get teams to play very very well and that and that things like can be steady and that you saw him come in last year and stabilize everything that was going on even though that it was you know already a complete mess and you have that but outside of that like you just said we talk every thing

single year like oh my god these injuries like they're you know they're they're hurting the league everybody's getting hurt that a da-da-da the bucks are not excused from that they are they are firmly in it so like yeah yannis might miss three three weeks this this season and what happens when he does they're they're going to slide back some other teams might go six and four when they go four and six and then now boom it's a it's a it's a very very long season and you think that people have time to make up stuff. Yo, these 10 game blocks really be messing up people's standings. Yeah. You know what? I think you convince me. You convince me. I'm with you. I think it's not a foregone conclusion. I think you're right. W. I'm still going to give this an L. But it's not

crazy. It's not wild. I can understand if you expect like Orlando Magic making a leap. And if there's any hope that Evan Moby can at least take three threes a game, that changes a lot. It's not crazy. You know what's not what else isn't crazy? This is the end of the stream. No. We will see you guys this Friday for the newest episode. Listen, as we're recording this, I'm looking.

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