The Deep 3 Podcast - Every NBA Prediction We Got Right and WRONG This Year | TD3 Live

Episode Date: April 3, 2024

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What should mean away? It's fine. Start the stream, please. We're just started. There's just so much going on, bro. It's like ridiculous. Anyway, we're live. What are we talking about?

We're in a real eater's at. We are back. Someone said late by two seconds. I think we're early by about 15 seconds, actually. Y'all got it. Check and have it today. I'm not, I'm not arguing with them right now. Yeah.

Hi, all dude, everybody. Everyone's coming in. Still spamming a plate. I know y'all can see us, but whatever. So where's money back, Kevin? I'm sure he'll be here shortly. He never misses a stream. Is he on vacation still?

Or did he just get back? Who knows? He's back. He's back? Okay. Got it. Let everybody get in. As you guys see about today's title,

we're going to go through every single. prediction from the start of the year that we got right and then we got wrong so talk about all our big swings and misses the bold predictions we got right where we're ahead of the curve on all of that before we get to that what has been in y'all's mind this week and b a was just the last time we spoke watch that and b's back tonight um he's duck in shay and j dub you know regular and b stuff which is kind of was just kind of funny uh i think i think i think the sons are about to fall into the plane race. I think I've been,

I've been thinking about that a lot over the last, like, 24 hours and looking at their schedule, I don't know if they're going to make it into the playoffs, which would be an interesting development. Yeah. That would be a travesty.

Yeah. That would be hilarious. That's what that would be. That would be one of the biggest fucking failures in NBA history. It would be absolutely hilarious, especially given the fact that the last time we saw Canada

I have a super team, it was also one the biggest failures in NBA history. Yeah, I was about to say, damn, KD, you got a track. from hell it would be hilarious

I don't know I'm not necessarily praying on their downfall but I wouldn't be sad about it I'll say that it's just like bro

no I hate the sons I don't want good things for them why do you hate the sons I mean who's the leader of the team Devin Booker but what's wrong with him

that's not it it's Kevin the right it's just listen it's residual hate right From Kevin Durrath, it really has nothing to do with the Sons. Because the whole era of the Sons that was kind of corny, like the winner's work type of stuff, that's all gone. Like, this is a completely new iteration of the team.

I just can't get over them in that insane game seven loss and the visual of like DeAndre Aitin doing pull-ups after a win. Like it's just... But it's work, baby. Shut up. Shout to the early donos. Elena tip $3. said late as always tis tis tisk yeah what are you going to do shout to matthew the last two weeks we've been early and we've actually been on time so i don't want to hear anybody talking about late

we've been doing our job shout to matthew for tipping 25 dollars said and so convenes the council of three the glazer the hater and the man knower fair enough how do you feel about that you are now our resident man knower i'd rather be a man knower than a glazer glazer is 10 times I'm just informed that's all that tells me I have a lot of information

in this goddamn dome but glazy never me man some of the comments Benjamin Garcia said what are we doing for the 500K special I don't know what are we doing

for the 500K special y'all 500K special who what are we at right now like 470 something something like that yeah we gotta do something special I didn't actually

talk about that and think about that you guys in the chat I have to spam ideas. You thought about it? No, so I haven't even thought about it? Yeah, same. We actually have to do something.

That's crazy. What do you guys want us to do? A lot of Luca talk in the chat right now. Listen, we'll get to it. There's a lot of Dallas Mavericks and Luca Don Chitch are heavy on my mind as of late. So we'll definitely talk about them later in the stream. Yeah, there's so much going on, right. Before we get to the news stories, shout out to Louis King for tipping $2.

He said, coming in with the deuce to keep y'all humble. Been one of my many 50 don'tos in my opinion. I've been one too many $50 donos, in my opinion. Just remember where y'all came from, especially you, Mo. Yo, speaking of where I came from, I got reminded. I got reminded where I came from today. I'm over here chilling, just doing regular work podcast stuff for whatever, like two hours ago. I'm outside.

I hear screaming. Leave me alone. Let me alone. I snap my neck. I'm like, what the fuck is going on? I can hear this because every time I'm in my living room, I leave the window to slightly crack because I like a fresh breeze breeze and so I go outside or I stick my head out of my window and I see there's this dude running around getting chased around with some dude on a bike

and all of a sudden crown eaters if you're 18 and below or 18 if you're not 18 please mute right now dude pulls down his pants and starts going crazy in the middle right next story you and I'm like what is going on bro I swear it was crazy okay anyways Let's get to the news stories. Crazy shit, bro. Who cares? Who cares? I can't be mean.

First new story to talk about today. Joelle Embed is back, y'all. He is playing the Oklahoma City Thunder for the first time in, I don't know how many games since he was tearing the NBA apart, having one of the greatest scoring seasons of all time before Terry's meniscus. Now he's back. How are y'all feeling about this? Looking potentially scary out east? because I didn't think he was going to be back this soon. And even though we're like two weeks away from the playoffs,

I still think that this is like kind of best case scenario. Because I thought that if he was going to come back at all, it was going to be maybe like a week from now. And his first, like within his first five games, they were going to have to play in the play in. This is massive. Because if he can actually get his legs under him and, you know, be kind of ready, let me pull up the standings for the Eastern Conference right now.

they are the current seven they're the eighth seed they would play in miami that would be interesting matchup to see and also imbid fresh off of an injury if he knocks out the playoff rises miami heat you get some legacy points for that you get some legacy points for winning a playing game get the fuck out of my face i'm not i'm not gonna lie we have that's so nasty we have to start big up the the playing game like for real no for sure it's cool there's it doesn't count does it not count? How do we feel about this? No, it's cool, but it beats above that. NB has a bigger legacy stuff I've played than a playing game.

That's the bare minimum one who's a top three player. Off of injury, off of a meniscus. You think outside of that MVP, that would be his biggest accomplishment, Donovan? 100%. Wow. Now, I'm not saying that his legacy would be great because of it. You still have holes, but you get some points, right? You get some browning points for that.

That's huge. Yeah, they're playing right now. We're missing the game, obviously, because we're streaming. We'll have to watch it, and we'll talk about it on the pod episode this week once we have time to go back and watch. But, you know, they played 75 games so far. What is that? He has seven games to get under his belt to knock that rust off before coming into the play-in.

That's a decent amount of runway to get your feet wet again and get back to being close to what you were before. Makes them a lot more interesting in the playoffs. Because I think that's enough games that we'll probably see an approximation of what we saw early in the season. Yeah. Also, the last seven games, Joel Embed special, right? The 76ers have the easiest schedule in the lead for the next seven games.

They have games against the pistons, the spurs, the grizzlies, and the nets. This is exactly what you want, Joelle and B to... Oh, my God. He's going to tear this fucking schedule apart. This is the perfect runway for Joe L&B to get going again. It has to do with BAM on Thursday. That's obviously not easy. But then he deals against the Grizzlies.

He's going to tear J Aaron up. We saw who he did to Wemby last time. the pistons oh my god there is no centers outside of bam here on thursday that are really going to be able to slow him down and keep him out of rhythm he's eating wow that's tough bro i mean this is the best case scenario for joel and bid so we can get you know his legs right back under him and start getting into or try to get to get to peak joel and bid that we saw earlier this season bro he's got eight points in nine minutes right now start off pretty hard as a monster first game back It's terrorizing. We'll listen, chat.

While this game is on, while the stream is on, y'all watch the game. Obviously, I'll have it pulled up on the side, but we can't really lock in. Let's keep track of what his first game back is like live. It should be interesting. Keep us updated, chat. And while you guys are doing that also,

leave a like on the stream. There's over 450 people watching, but we barely have 100 likes on the stream. Shame on you watching right now. Leave a like on the stream. Leave a like on the stream. Let's get back to some don't knows real quick. to Matthew for tipping five dollars he said looking at the top two players in the league

the house bill russell built is currently getting gentrified that's hilarious these white men are unstoppable how are you feeling about that rest in peace bill russell man that's the eastern european league now get ready to speak Slovenian this is a behind closed doors conversation

you know what I'm saying this isn't a conversation I want to have with you guys right now shout out to discount T for tipping $5 to the boys are back in town shout out to Ferris for tipping $10 he said 2K 1V1 so 500K it wouldn't be fun y'all it would be too easy it would be me smacking them

who won the last time right when we played Isaac tell him he said 1v1 so like yeah like 101 2K yeah Who won last time when I played you? Didn't we play one-on-ones? No, well, we did 5-8-5. Oh, I smacked you in 5-8-5.

I'll smack you in 1-1-1-1-2. Atlanta Tipped $2 said, The Wolves can't complete. They're back-to-back-to-back-playing championships because we actually clinched the playoffs spot. Yep, shout to Tim Bulls for getting out of the playing, no longer playing merchants. Woo!

That's one of my favorite videos of, like, NBA Twitter of all time. The edit of, like, Patrick Beverly crying. heading up on the fucking scoreboard. Yeah. Let's read some to him, man. Let's keep going with the new stories for the day. Currently, the NBA has updated their MVP ladder, which I think is really designed for discourse

to get people talking about people updating the MVP ladder. I think it's all it's for on the NBA's part. But, you know, they put Luca Dantridge at two. Over Shade Gildes Alexander. Something we've been talking about a lot, that Luka Dantz is making this late MVP push. They're rising up to the standings. I think they're currently the five seed

But it's no give or take every day They could fall to six in one night Who knows But they're in that mix Can't get as high as four If the clippers don't get their shit together It seems a lot of people Are you starting to realize

That Luca is at the minimum In the top two conversation There's a growing momentum For people saying Let's give it to him Team success isn't this end all be all Yada yada yada We talked about that length last stream

We were all on the same page That it should be Nicole Yokit still For the whole season totality You know both great statistical profiles one's the one seed one's not type shit do you still feel that way that it should be Yokets for MVP yes

yes I still think that I still think Yokin should be MVP I think it's very clear on a night to night basis that he is the best in the league the Nuggets have not done anything outside of win games they're probably going to be the one seat out west like how do you

how do you not give it to him outside of just like wow these numbers are big for the year. Yeah. People are really wild by the points for game difference. That's kind of the main

talking point is that plus Lucas is doing more doing his less help obviously, very injured team a lot more on his shoulders from team standpoint

which I guess I understand I think a lot of that is because it looks easier and the team around Yokish looks better because Yokic is so great at elevating people but he doesn't know

he has the consistency of his people around him better health than the Mavericks have had and obviously the counting stats on Lucasat averaging 34, 10 and 10 is ridiculous. I don't know.

What do you say, Mo? No, yeah, I'm 100% like this belongs to Yokic. He has all around the best argument for it. Obviously, like you guys said, talent is ridiculous is obviously there. Universally, I feel like he's known by now. Or he should be known the best player in the world. And then, you know, like standing wise too, the winning is there. So all around he probably has, he definitely has the strongest argument.

But I have a question for you guys. It seems like everyone now has gotten over SGA's MVP push. Why is that to you guys? I think it's more about Luca rising than Shea falling. She's been hurt as of late, so he slowed down a little bit individually. But it's much more about Luca just having one of the most ridiculous, you know, box score seasons we've ever fucking seen. And him just having that big momentum of the team being really improved in the second half and getting all this attention. Like I tweeted yesterday that I think they're probably going to make the conference finals if it shakes out that way.

I think there might be the second best team in the conference. That hype is really carrying Luca right now. Yeah, I agree. I agree. He hasn't done anything. I think also, Shea's been amazing, but he has also been like what she has been what everybody wanted Jason Tatum to be in terms of like you score 30, best player, best team, that type of stuff. where you look at Luca and like Isaac said his team is rising he's averaging like 34 a night

and has and is is like doubling up Shea and rebound assists that that type of stuff so that's that's really where his push comes from yeah I think a lot of people also realizing that Luca is just in another stratosphere when it comes to the best of the best in NBA like obviously she's like one of the best three four or five people at his position whatever you want to whatever we know that he's the best but luca is in rare air air that's like people put him in all time talks right now that's the type of season that he's having and all those shays like mm go ahead sorry no i was gonna say like all those shays having like to his own right and it's a historic season in some ways what lucca's doing is truly like generational and it's things that we haven't

seen before done at consistently high level. Yeah, I think a lot of people are at the point where I see a lot of common talking point is that it'll feel weird years on the line to look at Lucas stat line and what he did with this team, guiding them to this height with the if he telling around him, people will keep saying it would look weird years on the line to be like he wasn't the MVP, right? It'll feel like he got robbed in the future, which I get. I understand that. Jukh, Yokic is the boring pick.

Luca's done such an amazing thing this year. such a no he's gotten better right everything across the board we said for years can you play next to star talent what happens if his two-point shot finally falls all those boxes have been checked this year and we're seeing like peak Luca Donovan you always talk about every year coming to the season

people say it's your one MVP if this happens and this happens and that happens it's basically all happened this year so people were like what more do you need right people keep saying the bar keeps changing first it was best team then it was team doesn't matter with Russell Westbrook and Yoakish in 2022 to the, you know, the standards keep changing.

You're just trying to find a reason to not give it to Luca, all this stuff. And people just feel like it's his time. Also, let's not forget, they got Kyrie Irving and got worse last year. So like last, like, so you have that, like, I'm just saying like in years past, why stuff hasn't necessarily gone his way is because you got an influx of talent, or at least star talent. And you missed the play in last year, right? They were actively tanking.

And so I do think that like that for this year. Yeah, it looks nice. And I think finally we got Luca to put everything together. I do think that the argument though of we're going to look back and it's going to look weird. So we should give it to them now. I do think that that's a stupid argument because it disregards everything that's happening now, right? Like a lot of the arguments that you go back in like when you look at box scores or stuff like that. it's like oh how did how did this happen how did these people go this and it's like well you you

weren't there like you had you had to actually like watch what was going on on on a daily basis and if you are watching yokech night in and night out and seeing everything that he's doing you can understand oh this guy is he is the MVP and although luka's numbers say that he is by far in a way like the best player the most impactful player whatever you have to watch these games to see why it's not hit. Yeah, I'm at the point. I won't be upset if Luca wins it at all. I still expect most voters will go with Yokic,

but I understand the case for Luca, and I don't think it could be crazy if he wanted. Like, I'd be fine with it, you know? It wouldn't be, like, high-rate robbery. Yeah. But something that... Go ahead. One thing, last thing I wanted to say,

when it comes to Luca, something that I appreciate a lot that just not talked about enough, I feel like, is the leap that he's made when it comes to his shooting. A lot more off the dribble, not off the dribble off of the ball than we're used to and also he's just genuinely become a better shooter like this season he's shooting what 78% from the free throw line before that

he's just been known to like 78% is like not fantastic but it's like pretty much close to average in the NBA you know and so and before that he was like 71% 73% 74% you know and just seeing all these numbers rise including his three point numbers to get up like 10 attempts per game which is tough to do shooting at 38% is just ridiculous. Yeah, he's currently at non-corner threes this year, 39%.

Corner 3s are still terrible, but he's only took 25 on the whole year, so that's irrelevant. But yeah, overall, 39% from 3 for this season. Previously, his career high was 36%. And if we look at the volume of 3 as he's taking, it is up to 39% of his total shots come from 3.

Previously, that was 32%. So an extra 7% of his shots coming from 3, which may not seem like a lot, but it's a pretty good amount and for that to happen with your percentage is getting better

truly ludicrous shooting season tough and he's also shoot 76% at the rim y'all see this 100 right here next to that number that's 100% out

that means he's the highest in the league for obviously for a point guard because he's listed as that this is the same percentage that LeBron James shot in 2012 that is ridiculous he's an absurd player

that does not make sense like it's ridiculous We wanted the next story here We'll see what happens to MEP race It's clearly competitive The two white boys duking it out But in other news Paul Pierce

Back on his bullshit He calls out Rudy Gobert Nobody considers European players tough Especially from France The latest former player Going on to TV or whatever And just yapping How do y'all feel about Paul Pierce's media presence?

I wonder if he said this I wonder if he said this Oh my God He said this on undisputed On undisputed That show is already in the dumps In the waters It's trashed

And to have some like Paul Pierce To try to save your show is just all down bad For reasons like this bro But now he's just Yap flapping his gums This is all it is bro

Like what he's saying Just genuinely doesn't make any sense Flaping his gums Is the best way to put it I don't even want to talk about this This is just you're just old and racist it's like what do you mean

not racist that that's the that's the wrong word but you understand what i'm trying to say it's um unfunny uninteresting uninsightful all the all the whole bunch what do these old players like gilbert arinas a couple weeks ago he said something like oh we need to get the euros out of here some crazy shit like that what do these old players have

against like foreign because that was the narrative that was the narrative around European players when they play and so they haven't taken into account the fact that like things change you know and so they are still rocking with the same ideas that they were in 2004 and they're bringing it into 2024 and it's like what do you mean nobody considers European players there's so many there's so many other players that like people do consider tough and it's just it's a wrong statement who gives a fuck who's tough like it's it's are we talking about me i mean we listen we should care who's tough but to call out an entire like

continent and be like yeah they're not tough like you're you're lying you're just showing that you're not paying attention and it's just it's dumb if you're talking about the minnesota timberwolves which i'm assuming was the point in this conversation and you're like i don't think ober's tough like who gets a fuck if he's tough like what are we even talking about they're not going to box out there like it does i mean you have the dog in you or not do you have the dog in you or not dog and you mean that's tough that's that's that's what i'm saying that's that's tough we're going into the playoffs life on the line we're going into war every other night are you going to stand behind your brother in that's not that your brother got your back can you trust him to come over

the top it's like he's like he expects him now when you talk like that it's like damn where you want me to pull out a fucking ratchet from my back and slashed an opponent's leg or what like it's just basketball yeah not prepared to do that Don't be on my team. See, Ben Wallace? Ben Wallace, brass knuckles. He would have came out with it. He wouldn't have been playing fair.

Why not artists would have shot somebody if it meant they could go to the next part? That's what I need on my team. Steel chair. Steel chair. Yeah, man. Paul Pierce is very uninteresting as a media member. It's just so funny because there's so many insightful former players that do good stuff. And then you just get every now and just get one of these that are just like the opposite.

They're just there because they're a former player. carried by their cachet. Yeah, exactly. On a more positive note, Rajan Rondo is retiring and everybody is taking the moment to appreciate his career. What a career for Rajaun Rondo.

He has a super interesting career. First and foremost, is Rajan Rondo a Hall of Famer? Probably. I think he's a four-time all-star. He's led the league and assists twice. He has a ring. He has a champion.

Two rings. Oh, yeah, two. Yeah, one where he was like, you know, like a starter and one of a very important piece. Well, no, he was a part for Lakers. Let me not diminish that. But, yeah, yeah. French, I don't know. It'll take, he's that first ballot.

It'll take him a couple years. Yeah, he'll probably be in. Yeah, I don't know how many years you can be on the ballot before you get knocked off. I think you can do it for like over five years. There is no one you get knocked off. Sometimes they've been able to people in there that retired like 40 years ago. Yeah. Damn.

That's interesting. Okay. See, another reason why the basketball Hall of Fame is crazy. I don't like it. But like, what are you years as crazy as fuck, Brad?

At that point, I know they do that in the NFL Hall of Fame where it's like, after like a certain amount of years, like, listen, buddy, nobody's voting you. Yeah. He does the same thing.

He's definitely fringe, but I think I think he could get in. Four All-Stars is just enough. Like, he's very similar to Andre Goddow. Yeah. He's very similar to an Andre Godala, but he has four All-Stars instead of one.

He's interesting because like a lot-time All-Star, four-time All-Star, three-time assist champ, two-time champion, four-time all-deefensive team. He has an all-NBA selection, steals champ, two-time champion, like, now. And obviously, this isn't, like, indicative of his entire career, but you average in a triple single, my guy. I have been a 4.5, 7.9. Yeah. Are you a Hall of Famer?

Fringe. He's special in his own, right? I know. He's special in his own, right? He literally is, bro. Like, his archetype is so rare. It sounds like a make a wish. Like, no, it's not like that.

But truly, like, looking at, especially when it comes to, like, the type of player that he is, because usually, like, he's so cerebral and he's one of the, yeah, he is. You don't think he is? No, I'm saying, I'm looking at this. page right now he's not he's not really i mean he has so he has like a seven year span where all of his accomplishments happen and then the moment that he gets traded yeah from boston to sacramento it just goes into revolving door of teams and the play in terms of like games played first three years kind of good 68 72 62 69 whatever and it's just not super super impactful for what it looks

like he goes like he goes to chicago they go to the playoffs yeah exactly like in new warrants he was truly like a he was one of the most important pieces and he helped the demarcus cousins and and a d thing like help co-exist and really work at high levels of course of course course we know what happened back in 2016 2017 NBA season when he uh when they went against the Boston Celtics in the first honor Damir upset the first seed Celtics very impressive you know and then you know what he did with the Lakers as well coming off the bench was impressive too sounds like it sounds like you look like you have something nasty to say Isaac what do you have I love the revisionism we have with the AD and and Boogie thing on how

they reached high levels like they didn't do anything for new world is high levels bro As soon as Boogie got hurt, they got better. They were on a better pace and had a better offensive rating when he was out. That team was cool and interesting for those 20 games, but they didn't do anything. Maybe they would have figured it out. Who knows, but they didn't do a fucking thing together. Back to Rondo, though, I will say real quick, Rondo, this is my final take. Rajan Rondo will be a Hall of Famer, and I know that because people are talking about putting Kyle Lauer in the Hall of Fame.

And so because of that, Raj and Rondo will go into the whole thing. Larry's definitely had a better career than him. You would rather have Kyle Lari's career over Ronda's thing? Yes, I mean, Rondo just has, Rondo just has Celtics clout. I don't think he. Yeah.

Think of Raja Rondo as a player. What does Kyle Lauer have cloud? What do you mean outside? What do you mean? You said Rondo only had Celtics cloud. Like, that's why he's viewed as much better because he has a Celtics aura. Well, if you put things side by side,

objectively, Kyle Lowry's career is just as good if not better. They both have one all-N-Ba selection. Kyle Lowry has two more All-Stars, and then he has the champion. Yeah, so pretty similar. You would rather be Kyle Lowry than-Rondo? Why? Rondo, he's the key. For his career, he put up nine points.

So much Rondo talked. 60% from the free throw line, and he's like a 30% three-point shooter. Like, in the NBA today, obviously, like, someone like him would figure out to survive, but he's not like, he's not a glorified archetype whatsoever. And we'll move on. Real quick. The revision is history. And y'all, y'all going to make no sense. The revision is history on Kyle Lauer's career.

It is crazy. Everybody just forgot that for the first, like, five to six, seven playoff runs of Kyle Lurie's career, and specifically the ones in Toronto. Him and DeMarre Rosen choked every single year they were there. Kauai comes in, saves the entire country. And now everybody's like, oh, yeah, Kyle Lowry, like, oh, wow, he's great. We forget that whole entire part of Kyle Lari's thing. No, you just think that we, like, care. Like, obviously, he wasn't good enough to be, like, the best player on his team,

and nor is Demar de Rosen, so they couldn't beat LeBron, couldn't beat the other good teams out there. Rajan Rondo was the fucking fourth option on his team. It's not comparison. I'm not talking about Lowry, versus Rondo in the sense. All I'm talking about is Kyle Lowry and the way that his entire career is viewed and I'm saying that Kauai

and Kawhi showing up and putting that team on his back and having a legendary playoff run has helped the entire vision of Lowry's entire career. Yeah, because it's the one time he had a good enough team. Huh?

It's the one time he was put in a proper role with a proper star next to him that could win it. That's more about DeVar de Rosen than it is Lowry, I think. Larry was far from the issue. You're the one who's been saying that Kyle Lari was the best. play on that team the entire time.

Yes, he was, correct. He didn't have a running mate good enough to make some shit happen until he got Kauai. He was out here. You can't say, okay, he's the best player and also not acknowledge the fact that he was also out here choking. Okay, you say choking,

I didn't have high expectations for a team led by Kyle Lowry's the first option. He shouldn't have been the best player on the team, as I'm saying. He was finally put in the proper role, as the facilitator second best player next to a superstar that's where he can thrive and it's the first time we ever saw him in a team construction that was actually possible to win with and that is my entire point is that throughout this entire time everybody knew Kyle Lowry wasn't that good and now

you're arguing about making and then after Kawai shows up everybody goes back to all of those years and just be like oh no like he just he just wasn't here we said we said that the raptors weren't good enough because Kyle Lowry wasn't good enough and because he was not rising to that occasion and now we're just going to forget about all of it and and Kauai is going to show up do all the heavy lifting and then we're just going to let Kyle Lowry

into the Hall of Fame. What point are you arguing against? Nobody said Kyle Lauer should ever be the best player in your team. Nobody said he's a superstar. Like you're arguing a point no one's making. That is so different from a Hall of Fame conversation. I'm saying the career,

the career that Kyle Lurie had post or pre-Kauai and even the stuff that he has done post-Kauai is not a Hall of Fame career and there and the span in which he was put in quote unquote the right role to thrive is not large enough

for you to look at his career and be like yeah that's good enough to overcome everything else it doesn't have steam coming out of his ear it's ridiculous I know I hate this it genuinely like and I understand understand that the basketball hall of fame is it's a basketball hall of fame not a pro basketball hall of him all this and the stuff it's a dis it's not right if kaila riley makes the hall of you're going to say disrespectful to basketball

karlire was like that what are you talking about oh my god this is too much kaii laura talk what oh my god shut off that guys shut up enough kahlia talk what are we doing How long as he liked that He was cool Next story Jeff Teague has another hilarious story From his podcast He said

I was on the Hawks And we were playing the Pacers My mama and my aunt Were sitting courtside And she earned every time I came in the game Then Tony brothers pulls me up to the side And he was like Who them hose

Tony brothers Who them is Who them is crazy and through Jeffty further explained in this podcast he was like for what? He didn't hear him the first time

and he had to repeat himself and he told him that's my mom onto you whatever family and he was pissed throughout the entire game and since then he never respected Tony Brothers and all that

and he then sided with Chris Paul saying oh yeah Tony Brothers is one of those type of dudes who tries to act cool with you within the second that you you know bark him a little bit like all the regular rest, so he acts like a hoe.

Shut out, Tony Brothers, man. That's hilarious. Tony brothers, man. Embarrassing, brother. What a guy. Let's see. Next thing in the dock, we got, okay, here's a fun game we got in here.

Legion Hoops tweeted, the number one NBA draft picks in the last five years, rank them one through five. Chat, spam your rankings for these five players. We got Zion Williamson, Anthony Edwards, Cade Cunningham, Victor Wimbunyama and Palo Bancaro. I want to see how y'all rank them.

What are you guys thinking? Is this like so far, like what they've, what are ranking them based off of like today? Yeah, let's say today. Ranking them today. Cade is last for sure. Yeah, Cade's last. Palo is second to last? Or who is Palo or Wembe better right now?

No, Palo. Palo is more. Yeah, Palo's four. Wembe 3 or Zion 3? Wembe or Zion? That's. I'm taking. Wemby.

That stuff because Zahom and Hooping has a late, bro. Zion's defense isn't as horrible anymore. I understand but the defense that Wembe does have is insane and the fact that he can... Wembe don't even play with real

NBA players yet. It's probably Wembe the defense is a big difference, you're right. The defensive impact is ridiculous. Again, you said Wemby doesn't play NBA players, that's a good point. If Wembe had Trey Young already, he'd be a lot more efficient. I think He's already capable. He's a good shooter already.

It's come around. Obviously, a good rim finisher. Yeah, like, imagine him around an offense that catered him with players who had solidified roles, put him alongside of Herb Jones, put him alongside a Sidgen-Mocomwood who would feed him, Jose Alperado, all these other solidified guys. He got a contract, bro. Do you not respect the dude for the ones? Everybody in the NBA, like, congratulations.

He's cool. He's a good player, but he's not going to be a feeding Victor Womeniama. He'll be the third best player over there. on the Spurs, bro. Like, it's that down mad. He would not. Who's better than... Third best?

Sorry, Jerry, so on. Sorry, Bissell. Fourth best player. There we go, bro. Damn, it's okay. Even then. You get the point, though. Who do you think is?

Jose Alvaro is a good player. He plays a hard. He's a spirit. He's co. He's feisty. Malachi Granum is just as good. You guys are talking about. He's not even better than Malachi

brand them. They're pretty similar. Okay, let me relax. Let me relax. Jose Alvado this year averaging a cool 6.9 points 2.1 assists 2.3 rebounds on

41% from the field right but 37% from 3 solid on 3 and a half attempts a game no he's cool he's cool he's good play my Puerto Rican king so Ants one obviously right Ants won right yeah

so Ant 1 1st 1st 1sts Zion 3 Palo 4 K5 I think that's a way. I think that's a way. Let's go. Yeah, I mean, you can put Zion above Wembe. I'd understand that. I think that's the only real debatable part is two and three right there.

Yeah. And I wouldn't even be upset. If you ultimately decided that you wanted Zion over Wembe, all right, cool. I think that that one is a little bit of just a preference in how you want to build your team. Yeah. So I can see the argument, but I would take Wemby. Yeah. Let's make a poll for that.

seeing a lot of mixed. I think that's the consensus in the chat too, but let's start a poll to see. Who is better right now? Zion or Wemby? It's so hard because Zion has been great. Like, Zion's playing really well for a winning team. But what, and like, they're polar opposite players. Yeah, like, would be so good, though. So you have to see through all the, see through all the context and value on based off of what they do right now, alone as players. Yeah, exactly. And try to think about

how their situation affects that, right? Yeah, exactly. But Zion's often on the best situation. So, like, he could also be better of giving a slightly

better role on a team. Wembe's in the worst situation, though. Like, one of the two, three worst situations. I mean, sort of. We overblow that, though. He has a ridiculous high usage.

Like, he gets a million touches now. We overblow how bad a situation is. We can't get into, like, the who has a worse Olympics. Because there's always, There's always going to be somebody who has it worse than the next guy and you're just going to be going in circles. I just think that right now the gap between Zion's defense improved as it is.

But his defense and Wemby's defense, that is, that's a massive, massive difference maker. So I'm going to take Wemby. Yeah, Wemby now might give me, might give you a better chance to win a championship than Zon now. That's so weird to say. Maybe. I don't know. By next year, this conversation, we mute.

And when we'll clear all these convos. So for now, it'll be interesting. Well, let's let the chat run up this poll. We'll read out some donations. Shout out to Horse of Yokic for donating $1. He said, next live stream, I want Don to do a tier list of every NBA team based on how much he likes them with elaboration on why he ranked the team that way. That would be hilarious, bro. That is amazing.

We'll do that. I'll get to work. Yeah, that's a mystery topic. They're fan base in that bitch, too. I love that. Oh, yeah, we'll do that. Next week. Toonail cheese, tip $5.

Donovan is I here dressed like a dad who just discovered Tyler the creator for the first time. That's mean. And act now. Okay. That's great. Dale Sol, tip $5. We know which side Paul George at Gilbert Arenas

will be on for the International versus USA game. I mean, Paul Pierce, sorry. But for real. George, I was like, what did my ghost say now? He's on the list? I was about a tweak. Oh, my God. You get allegations? Yeah.

No. I got to throw away my PG jersey. Fuck. Iron Spider tip $5. He said, you guys should play 21 at 500K or 2V2 with Nikiel. Listen, the 2v2 with the kill is happening. We discussed this last episode. If all didn't see it, go watch producer corner from last episode, episode 82.

We talked at length about what would happen if me and Mo played Nikil and Donovan in a 2v2 basketball game. It's going to happen. Be patient. That boys get washed You said I'm going to go scoreless Donovan That's the worst word I never said scoreless You did say that

No, no I said it was for eight That's still crazy too But I remember vividly Neither less you're getting washed Yeah you guys can collapse Anyways next thing Oh Interesting stat that was on Twitter

Kevin Durant Pre-Aquilles 27 points 7 rebounds 4 assists 49% from the field 38% from 3 Kevin Grant post Achilles 28 points 7 rebounds

5.5 assists 53% from the field 41% from 3 kind of insane I know we've talked in the past about him being like a miraculous level of longevity despite that

what used to be crippling injury I still think we don't talk about it enough this is like one of the most miraculous things we've seen in sports like this is ridiculous to be this effective and this better in some ways post the worst sports injury anybody can get yeah it's really it's really crazy how like you have a couple you have certain players

who come back from injury and they kind of shape the way everybody expects everybody to come back from injury so like Adrian Peterson terraces ACL comes back in six months run for 2000 everyone's like oh the ACL's fine like you can just you can just come back in a year Kevin Durant's scoring like this is also probably you look in football you look at Aaron Rogers Kirk Cousins you'd be like No, they'll be all right. KD's fine, but no, it's a legitimate thing. And so KD is how high of a score, right? We're getting it into bag talk here.

Okay. How high on the scoring pantheon would you have Kevin Durant? Is he like a top 10 score of all times, top five, in your opinion? Yeah, definitely. Me personally, I don't say tough five for sure. He just doesn't have those numbers just yet because of all the injuries and how much time he's missed throughout the. entirety of his NBA career.

He's easily top-fired. He's an top-three score of all time. I don't think it's crazy from number three. I mean, it's always finicky. We talk about LeBron in the scoring ranking. Some people are like, no bag, no bag. But, like, you know, he's LeBron James. So, like, if we just say that Jordan and LeBron are one and two,

then after that, obviously, you have, what, like, Shaq, Steph, KD. Kobe. Sure. that's we're at like seven now no I didn't mean that way the pals that you had was yeah

every year right through that I got you got it I was gonna be like I was just gonna quickly I was gonna be like I guess I put KD above him but I was like doesn't matter just keep going that's like seven guys right that's like seven guys who include KD if you say those are the best scores of all time

don't Wilson there eight guys that's a pretty good range right you could put KD as high as three or as low as eight like it's really finicky at that point oh you put Larry Bird in there and then who also grounds

at the 10th spot to be like the top 10 or so um making a push one day one day one day we're gonna get that for sure is he making a push

where does Hardin come in oh Kareem let's say Kareem's number 10 Hardin Hardin's interesting longevity he doesn't have long I mean peak for peak

yeah but like and that's that's what I think I think you're talking about like scoring being one of the best scores of all time, you need to be able to have one of those peaks of nobody. There was a point in my career when I was at my best

that nobody could stop me. And so Hardin having multiple years averaging over 30 points a game, that definitely works in his favor. This is Hardin's five-year peak when he averaged 29 or more, including 36 and 34 at the end of that. For this five-year peak, he's at 31.7 points, 8.5 assists was irrelevant. 52% on twos, 35% on three,

and 10 attempts a game. 86% from the free throw line. Hardin was so hard to figure out that one day, I think it was Alvin Gentry on the Pelicans at the time or some shit like that. Whoever their head coach was. They tried to guard him with hands behind their back.

That was a legit game. That was the jazz. That was a playoff setting. Behind the back? They put Ricky Rubio standing behind James Hardin so he couldn't step back and giving him a free lane to the rim. You know how ridiculous that is?

that's insane bro that is hard it needs to be in those scarversations okay he can round out like the 11 spot add him and kareem

to that range is like the top 10 guys Katie's at minimum like top eight right yeah yeah I agree what a career for Kevin Durant

what else okay this is an interesting story um macadu ah no we got a report multiple veteran NBA execs believe 2024

draft class is the worst they've ever seen. Obviously, we don't have strong opinions about this. None of us are college guys. None of us really are dive deep into it until draft season. If this is true, and it's one of those like 2013 type classes, that's just like famously shit, and which you know, there's always going to be diamonds in the ruffs. We got Janus in that draft class. You got other people.

It happens. But if, you know, for the majority of it won't be the super high level, does that change how you want certain teams to operate, you know, whether you say they should blow it up, they should do things? Like, how much does this affect outlook for teams? No. Okay, scouts tend to Coaches hate to coach

You know what I'm saying? Do your job Like I obviously Regardless of what scouts think All of the guys in the draft Are very, very talented And I'm sure that if you get a guy And you can develop him

And put him in situations That he thrives in You figure out what he does well And let him do that You can create and develop a very good player this just to me when I see stuff like this I'm like you guys are just scared to coach you guys are just scared to develop because if you go to the 2013 draft there's some players in it and that was a draft that other people also said was a very very bad draft and you can go kind of later into the lottery

and find good players they just have to be developed and people aren't doing that yonis is in that draft, C.J. McCullough, Victor Oladipo, right? Even Adams, I think. There's good players in the 2013 draft, and there's going to be good players in this one, too. People just have to be smart about what they're looking at and how they bring them into their program, and that's it. Yeah, I agree. Seeing this is they're just talking about, like, overall quality and how star-studded this draft is, which objectively, like, it's not. Everyone's been seeing people had tabs of this high school class over the last few years. and there was no major, like, there was never the guy.

You know, if you look at all the top high school recruits, like D.J. Wagner wasn't on shit for Kentucky. Obviously, like, I don't want to say Bronny because he was never, like, five star or anything like that. But still, you know, like all these guys, throwing the G League guys as well, they were just, it was never no generational player. And I think over the last few years, we've just been spoiled with the Wembe's, you could say the Ben Simmons, Zion's. fuck it like there's there's not even like an r j barrett level prospect in this year's draft which is absolutely insane and that just goes to show like how spoiled we've been over the last few years so obviously we're just going to go through no r j barry it's not gas it too much r j barrett was special coming out of high school for sure but okay that's not coming out of college

coming out of college his draft stock could plummeted quite a bit so like at that point i think like i think alexander saw would have went above him in a draft yeah his draft stock only plummeted because people around him were just like straight up better you know and all the Scouts just started to sniff that out or as time went on. Joel and B is currently 5 for 10 from the field. He has 14 points in how many minutes is this? In 16 minutes.

Well, Joel and B. watch for the first game. Five assists, four rebounds. This guy's crazy. They're currently losing, though. They're down by 10. To the Shea and J. Wyss, Oklahoma City Thunder. Chet Hogan's first game is one option. Is it fra?

Oh, my gosh. Josh Diddy is over here. leading this team, bro. That's kind of crazy. Oh, what? The Knicks are down 15. Bums. This is terrible.

Oh, Brunton. Is Brunton hurt? He only has four points. This is terrible. Another mildly interesting story. There's a Cavs reporter that tweeted out some messages that he got from apparently

somebody within the Cavs locker after their latest loss. You know, the Cavs haven't been too greatest of late since Donovan Mitchell's been hurt and in and out the lineup. Donovan Mitchell apparently said, it's fucking April. We've got to figure this out.

Voicing frustration after their most recent loss. interesting to keep tabs on this team because they've been very up and down throughout the year you know they had that crazy win streak whenever garland and evmobby were out and donovan mitchell and jared allen were just eating they won like 17 out of 20 games flew up to the second seed just been very unlikely with injuries across their entire lineup garris garland has been shit as of late nothing's meshing well over the last couple weeks with don't mitchell in and out of the lineup what's your current feel about this team well how you been going up against the denver

nuggets is a great measure measuring stick of course to see where you where where you rank in terms of like how close you are to you know being towards the top of the NBA and to be clapped by 30 points basically without Jamal Murray is very disheartening for your star point guard like darius garland to go ahead and put up five points very disheartening you know what I'm saying don't have mission didn't even play well either as an individual so I think it's clear as day that like you know, if more, if this continues to happen in the playoffs, which is just like, you know,

Darius and Donovan Mitchell not coexisting very well, then there's going to be a clear trade during the offseason. If they have another disaster, it's a trade happening, bro. They have a lot weighing on this playoff push. Whichever way it goes, a lot will be affected by that, I'll say. Yeah. Scary out. But what does he go?

There's really just like two So obviously like the big names Even in the summer People were talking about Knicks, Nets, heat Those are kind of And like I don't know If the Knicks would do it anymore

So you really have like Brooklyn And Miami would be the two spots If you were I want to re kind of revisit this If you were Orlando Would you trade for Donovan Mitchell? Yes, in a fucking heartbeat They'd be amazing with Donald Mitchell

He'd be the perfect player over there Put him at my guard Oh my goodness That's the surprise team that I want. That's the team that I really, really want to see make a move and be the surprise one out, like the same way that Cleveland was, right, and come out of nowhere. If I was Donald Mitchell, I'd be heated. I'd be furious.

If I was like, give me to New York, give me to Miami, and I'd go to Cleveland and Orlando, I would be mad. But it would work out perfectly. It would. I don't think Orlando would do it because he's, it's been expiring your contract. And for a reason you just said, I don't think, I don't know if he'd resign there. after one year. Yeah, I agree.

Another team that's like a sweeper. I don't know if they did it, they would have to reconstruct a lot of parts of their team like Brandon Ingram Mancy, Jim McCone, just can't keep both of those guys there in my mind. But the Pelicans, I want to see that happen for sure. That'll be a fucking beautiful pick and roll doer right there. Chat, which else dream D. Mitch team?

If they were to flame out again and he became available, or Darius Garland, for both of them. I'll ask that to both y'all, chat. Do you, if you had to trade Donovan Mitchell or Darius Garland or both, which teams would you all want to see them on? Obviously. I'm also. Yeah.

Darius Garland. I know where you're going. Yeah, I'm pushing that. I've been pushing that shit. San Antonio Spurs. Oh my God. He would be fantastic on the Spurs too. That would be like so much more palatable than Trey Young because there's like less of the

downside obviously. He's probably a little bit cheaper. And just like he, he, Trayon's better, but Darius Garland would be a more natural fit as a second option, right? in people's minds it would be pretty awesome I need Darius Garlane be free because Darius Garland is one of the most promising

young guards in the league having a rough year because of injuries having a rough two years in terms of his development and getting better and better because D. Mitch's presence has kind of taken away touches from him people don't forget how special

2021, 2021, 2022 Dary's Garland was he was on fire. We were talking about him as one of the most promising young guards in the entire NBA for good reason. Yeah, I agree. I agree.

If I was Spurs, I'll definitely go after or something like Darius Garland over Trey Young because Darius's names doesn't have as much the reputation, the cachet. He's just not there because he's Darius Garland. But with that being said, the talent isn't like a steep drop-off and he's much more of a, he's a better asset to go ahead and go after him. Yeah, people were saying Orlando. Yeah, that makes sense too.

Orlando would be nice for Darius Garland. Does Philly have the space to go get D. Mitch? Cash face, yes. Assets, no. But they're going, this summer they can free up like two max lots almost. Yeah, I don't know Yeah, I don't know if Cleveland Would Cleveland be like

Bitches and not want to go ahead And deal him off to anyone in their In their conference? I don't know, it seems to weird like that sometimes Yeah, who's to say? I can't imagine Cleveland's that type of position of contention and they're really going to be worried about that But who knows?

You have no right to act like that Last thing we're going to do We're going to watch Donovan Let's get some next propaganda off We're going to react to some of the best performer I said that but it's about a loss we're going to react to the best performances of the week y'all

and first off we have to talk about jaylon brunson dropping 61 points against the san antonio spurs and wendy responding with 40 and 20 to beat their asses how did you feel watching this game don't know it was an overtime win like you're like you got beat by rookie and a bunch of scrubs while your star had 61 embarrassing how did you feel yeah they got 40 and 20 40 and 7 assists bro it doesn't make sense to say in one sentence

Yeah. How did you feel about Jenlon Brunson dropping 61? I mean, I actually didn't even have time to feel great about it because I didn't watch the game. I didn't watch the game live. And so I didn't see what happened. I was at a Yankees Astros game at the time. And so I got out of the stadium and then I went on Twitter and people were like, oh, I guess he might, he's probably asleep because he hasn't said anything about Brunson. He looked at the box when I was like, oh, man, we lost, and I clicked on it again. It's like, he did what? And so it just, it sucked to see this performance kind of, you know, go by the wayside. But he was amazing.

Yeah, no, it's crazy. But also, listen, helps us push some Wembe propaganda that I will never hesitate to push. You honestly, I don't even, I'm going to turn off. These are Brunson highlights. Let's watch the fucking Wembe highlights. Let's get to what we're here for. Let's get to the man of the hour. who won this game.

Victor Womondi Jammu of 40 and 20. Listen, it's just, all the takes you can have about him, go as high as you want with lofty expectations you have. It keeps getting easier and easier to make these lofty goals

and lofty takes about him because he keeps doing stuff like this. You're never going to be wrong no matter what you say about Victor Wemayama. That's the best part about making takes about him but you just won't ever be wrong. Look at that rebounding.

There's this one clutch play that he made, towards the end of the fourth quarter, I believe, where he hit like a, it was off the dribble three-pointer. Off of doing, yeah, it was off the dribble three-pointer, and he just cashed that bitch, and he helped close.

Look how he took his full court after a block. Like, he's handing the ball a lot more lately, taking a full court, almost like a yokech or a subonis. That's going to be such a big part of his game when he hits his prime and becomes more physical and more ability to go coast to coast like Ayanis. When he's running coast to coast like Janus and finished the room over everybody in two,

years what are you going to do look at these passes he was in the zone as well you saw the full array of passes as well his pocket passes these corner ones through a little bounce player just because yeah his team's so

hard to defend with him doing those type of things you can't key in on him and like take away things and just derail his what look at that look at that come back look at this okay sets the screen comes off of the small screen off of from malachi brown blows right by three defenders

Richard Robinson recovers in the pick and roll does a decent job Hart fucking slides over but gives the worst contest ever because what do you even do? He jumps and he's still at his chest he has no effect on the shot despite a decent rotation

that's hilarious I'd be sick to my stomach if I had to guard this man man man what do you do yeah actually now I'm looking at I think Josh Hart's giving some shitty rotations He's just kind of standing there

Yeah, but listen, man, he's him Somebody said Wemby's overpowered, exactly We got to talk about him like a fucking Vio game character Like he's a build and 2K Nerf him Yeah, nerve him Let's take away his animations

Riley in the chat said I feel very comfortable projecting him to be top three Of all time I'm not at the point of saying those things yet But I'm like, all right, sure If you said that about any other rookie I'd be like, just get out of my face Yeah

I've been saying it though I agree with it you agree with it potential for sure i don't want to step back to her bernstein oh my goodness bro after it was so bad for the nix players too mitch robinson was given his fucking all bro he was hobbled during this game and he was just like yo he got it after this dylan bruncel was like yeah he's gonna be one of the greatest

players that we've ever seen is this like he just accepted defeat every NBA player once they come across them they're just like a loss for words and we haven't seen anybody do that since like fucking Steph coming out back in 2015, 2014. Yeah, this is hilarious. A recent, recent donations real quick. Shout out to useless XD for tipping $10. He said, Good Takes, my best player.

I don't know what that means, but appreciate you useless. And shout out to Mo likes Toes for tipping $3. He said, hypothetical for Don. Carmelo and Curry had their lives on the line. To save him, you need to get a Clippers tattoo somewhere visible. Are you doing it? This is for you, Don. Wait, say that again?

Somebody has a gun to Carmelo Anthony and Steph Curry's head. To save their lives, you need to get a clipper's tattoo on your body in a visible place. Are you doing it? Yeah, I'll do it. You do it for Mello? I'll save them both. Because then I can show the tattoo and be like, I'm a hero. Melo going to look at you and be like, this motherfucker is crazy.

Security! All right, man. Next time we're going to do, we're going to do a new stream staple, y'all. we're going to do Donovan's debate of the day every week Donovan are you telling about it Donovan tell what you got for us

so listen every week we're going to come in here and I have a lot of debates with the people in my life sometimes things go back and forth in my head I might debate myself we're going to bring that here

to the stream and I'm going to have a topic to where I want you guys to weigh in I'm going to talk to the guys about it we're going to embrace debate here on Mocheek Mondays and something

Oh true but it is it is a tuesday um so over i think like the weekend i was called per usual an old man on twitter because i said i saw a tweet of the NBA and standings from 2014 and people say the way that the NBA used to cede the the NBA playoffs was crazy and i quoted it and i said that the NBA should go back to seating by division which means that If you win your division, like the Denver Nuggets did here in this year, you get a top three seed. Even if teams below you or outside of your division have more wins than you,

if you win your division, you get a top three seat. And I said, we should go back to that. Yes, and I was called an old man, a nostalgia merchant, all that type of stuff. And I think that this is the way that the NBA needs to do this. Yeah, you're yapping. This is absolutely nonsense. Look at the screenshot. The marriage has 60 wins and the foursie.

Get on my face. Why would it be better for anybody in any situation? What are you talking about? And here's my point. And here's my point. And the question that I have for everybody, right? Why are you not consistent? Because everything that you love in the NFL, you hate in the NBA.

The NFL does this exact same thing. Small market teams thrive in the NFL. You hate them in the NBA. the NFL and the best and the biggest league in in America there's all these things but when Adam silver comes in and takes them away when he wants to do it you don't like it also why do we have division division records are part of tiebreakers and I and I think that if you have divisions then there should be some type of incentive for having divisions now I think to further incentivize it you can have more divisional games right you can you can do certain things

with the schedule to make it better. But I do think that winning your division should mean something. It makes more sense than NFL because the smaller amount of games and everything matters. So adding that wrinkle onto it isn't a backbreaker. I think that like it adds a cool wrinkle because everything's so tense as is that like it's fine even if it's not like objectively the smartest thing to do. In the NBA when you have 82 games season, if you were to do what happens in the screenshot right here and be the Mavericks and win 60 games and finishes the four seed while you watch

something with 44 wins above you after playing 82 games. games where you have such an just immense amount of data to tell you who is a better team and who earned a spot, it's hilarious, it's nonsense, it adds nothing. I get it if you want to just like add division rivalries, but that only works in NFL because a small amount of games make each of those rivalries and each those games matter a lot to your record. In here, your division record isn't what matters. I mean, your division records aren't like a big chunk of the games, you know, so it's not going to feel like anything special. And that's, and that's So I'm saying, one, you can change the schedule to do that.

And I can acknowledge, I can acknowledge that three might be too high. I do think that if you win your division, you should automatically, you should be no lower than four. You should be able to have home court advantage in the first round if you win your division. Because like the way that it's set up like theoretically, you can have, you can have, so like this year. Why can't they just do their job? Why are you trying to reward them?

Your job is to win the games. What do you mean? Why are you trying to... Why do you want to reward them for winning their division? The whole reason why you play is just to win, bro. You and your division,

congratulations. Then take out conferences. Let's go... That's fine. The only reason that's not happening is because travel would be ridiculous to have people do that

in a playoff setting. That's the biggest obstacle there. It's an easier to sell to say no conferences than have one through 16 than it is to say, do the division thing. It's honestly,

it's honestly not, though. You already have... You already have the divisions set up. The only thing that you would have to change is, like, Memphis, you're actually in the Eastern time zone. Yes. You actually be in an Eastern Conference team. Like, you can realign stuff, and that's probably going to happen after expansion.

But you should have all these other things, conference, home and away, like those come into, they come into play everywhere else. And so I think that, like, division should also come into play. And you do. And that's why in order to do this, you have to, like, increase the amount of divisional games. That's my one stipulation Is you make sure that you play people in your division More than you play everybody else Because there's really no reason for like

The Bucks and the Kings to play four times a year Or the Knicks and the Bucks to play four times a year That doesn't matter That's my only stipulation Yeah, but then you're not going to be to play every team Or you're just playing one time Like why is that better I guess I get it

No, no, that's what I'm saying You don't like the inner conference stuff So like the Knicks and the Bucks They're not in the same division They're in the same conference you guys don't need to play four times a year it's okay if sometimes sometimes they do yeah like in the in the same conference you either play three or four times a year gosh and so you don't have you don't have to do that but the divisional stuff works and it it would actually be a lot of fun

I promise you if you did it the right way it would be a lot of fun we just had it like you're saying we should go back to this we just had it it wasn't that fun there's a reason we got rid of it so like I don't think it is I don't know the old system wasn't like the old system wasn't what I was saying. Adam Silver didn't call me. David Senator didn't call me. And if they let me set up the schedule the way that I know how, guys,

I can make you guys. I can make things better. Just understand that. Bro is actually wasting air for this crazy take. Wasting air. That's funny. There's people in the chat that see the vision. Some people are agreeing with it.

They said it would be nice to have some rivalries in the game. I understand that. That makes sense. For sure. It makes sense. but I just don't believe. I feel like if you do that, then you're just kind of taken away

a part of what these NBA players are supposed to do and you're just trying to reward them for every like tidbit. Oh, you show it to practice on time. Let me go ahead and give you some starbursts after practice. Do you not question for you on that real quick? Do you not think that the plan does the same exact thing? The plan's different because it makes the NBA more entertaining

towards the back half, towards the dead period. So now we're worried about entertainment rather than, rather than rewarding people for what you're doing because there's people like the Hawks. The Hawks are in the tent seat. They're going to be in the playing and are going to have a chance to be in the playoffs, even though that they are six and a half games behind behind the heat. And there are five games behind the six years. But you win two straight games. We can throw 82 games out the window and you get a chance to be in the playoffs. When you game, clap to the shitty team that you got to play?

Like, what do you mean? Like, just beat them. They're bad, like you said, beat them. If you are the heat or the sixers, I just played eight months of basketball. And I am five to six games. I'm two weeks of basketball better than somebody else. And now you are making me play teams that are nowhere near me. Should have got your 60.

What do you mean? Get three weeks better, bro. Get four weeks better. It's not my goal. And now this is exactly what I'm saying. You cannot pick and choose when the regular season matters and when it doesn't. What do you mean? No one says it is a lot.

matter for for the teams if you are like you're okay you remember in the bubble the first the first time if you were not within four games of the eight seed then you cannot participate in the play it and i i like i like that aspect because then it's like yeah because then you're actually there i think the way that it's currently set up where you can be 10 games back and still in the 10 seed but you would still have an opportunity to play in the playing and that i don't believe is fair because then what do we what do we do for i get it for the last six months i'd be cool with that rule too but in the day even without it one if you don't care you don't care no no you're 10 games back you're gonna get clapped you should get clapped you shouldn't be worried about

beating a team has 10 games worse than you and so one thing's the area though yeah but because of that on the other side you have the west which is much more compact and in that point it actually makes sense to give the 10 c just as much of fighting chance to 8c because their records are basically the same. So there's pros and cons on both sides and the cons are far less consequential because if you are the Hawks, you're going to get fucked and you should get fucked. If you lose to the Hawks as the 8 seed, that's on you. Skill issue. Beat the Hawks like it's not hard. Skill issue. And I'm saying the Sixers should not be in that position at all. And and you should have, that's what I'm saying. Like you need to be within a certain amount of games to where it's even

fair because again why are we playing 82 games then if i if i've played eight months and i've played all these games we played the same amount of games i'm clearly better but now i have to go go the extra mile that's not fair just beat the hawks

and sand i'll be off like at the end no you guys you don't care because it's the seventh and eighth and eight see and you're like oh well they're going to lose in the next round no because you're saying the regular season doesn't matter you get the 16 it's not an issue you just have to beat the hawks like It's not like you're not a victim because you've got to beat

the Hawks or get the 60s like it's not like it's something like some travesty to have to get into this tournament and you also have an advantage you get to who's twice

instead of once like you had an advantage there They're not closed they're not close to them no I get it I think it would be fine to the conditional rule like you said

but it's not the regular season doesn't matter because you got to beat the Hawks like it's not like it's some ridiculous thing you put less of a premium on

I don't have to be the 8th best team. I could be the 10th best team and still have a path to the playoffs. Or get the 60, you don't get to worry about it. That's the premium. And that's not right. Anybody can be any team once. Anybody can do that one time.

We're just worried about the Hawks, all right? Sure. I mean, we're worried about them because that's this year, obviously, but like it's one time. It's a one game scenario. Look at March Madness and look at all the stuff that happens every single year because it is a

one-game scenario and you're not it's two-game scenario you got to win twice you if you're the eighths you got to lose twice you have two chances two bites of the apple you every time it is a one-game scenario you are playing if you lose to the hawks and you end up playing whatever or if you lose to the heat and then you get two one-game scenarios win once is it is a is a one-game scenario every single time that is and this game is different from that different from this game two of them win once like it's not like you get two chances I shouldn't even have to go through this I've proved over 82 games that I'm better.

You didn't, though, because you didn't prove it enough. You got the 60, you would have really proved it. Prove it enough. And that's, and that is my entire point is that you're penalizing me for not, come on now. Listen, man, another side of it is the money and entertainment, which is the NBA, which is what the NBA should be all about. That's the number one focus alongside money. You get the best bang for your buck doing both. And I can say the same thing about divisions.

Nah, you can't. No, you can't. It's completely different. The plane is literally an event. The division is just an idea. Instead of having to be better, instead of having to be better than 14 teams in your conference, you just have to be better than the four teams

within a 50-mile radio. That's all you have to do, and you can be a top four seat. You're making two points that are separate, it makes sense. Looping them together. No, I'm debating everything now. I'm knocking them down.

I'm knocking them down. Anyways, y'all. Time to move on from this lengthy argument. Don's debate of the day is over. Hope y'all are convinced in the chat. Next thing we're going to do, we're going to do what the title of this episode is about. We're going to talk about our best and worst takes

of the NBA season. We were right about a good amount of stuff. We got a lot of shit wrong this year. We had some awful predictions to start the year. And every year predictions are a bit of a mixed bag, right? You're literally guessing, obviously based on some background, but you don't know what players look like coming into the season.

So, like, me and Mo were pretty high on the Atlanta Hawks. We're too good. They were pretty wrong. So we're going to go one by one and we're both We're all going to name something we got right And something got wrong this year Well you want to go first Yeah I think first things first

Easy one The Minnesota Timberwols Isaac You had them at 11 seed Me 10 seed Nonovan you're highest Nine seed None of us really believes them whatsoever

And the duo Trio Big Three that they built And of course They're one of the biggest success stories in the entire NBA, Anthony Edwards ascending Rudy Gobert, gaining back all the reputation and respect that he lost.

And Carnegie Towns, when he was healthy, figuring out at the four spot, in being more of a connector, more of a, you know, pastor and showing his vision and all that, and just figuring out ways to be effective alongside Rudy, which is, like, tough to do at times. So they are, like,

one of the biggest things that I was fucking wrong about. You know, I'm saying? That's just straight up a shock of the year. Chat, were you right or wrong about the Timberwolves? Did you see the Timberwolves coming, chat? Be honest, tell us if you were wrong, because everybody up here was dead wrong about it. We talked about in the past.

I have thoughts, obviously. Donovan, why did you not believe in the Timberwolves? Because they suck last year. It's simple. And it just looked like the writing was on the wall. It looked like they had a fundamental flaw in terms of like Anthony Edwards and the spacing and him and Kat being able to work.

Is Kat going to be able to be able to? to play this kind of defense, is Rudy Gober going to be able to be put in a position to where he can fully be the center and the defensive anchor that he wants to be? Looking at things last year, it didn't feel like that. And so I also didn't, I was a little bit more hesitant, I think. I can't remember, but I think I was a little bit more hesitant

on the Anthony Edwards, like, hype train. Yeah. Oh, yeah, he's going to, you know, blossom into like this top 10, top eight player. And so they took a lot of leaps this year that I did not think was going to happen. Yeah, I didn't, the only thing that really held me back, which the thing is, I didn't think they were ass. I just thought the conference would be so loaded that they were going to be, like, somebody had to miss out. When we did the predictions, I was like, all these teams in the playing are going to be pretty good, but there's just too many good teams there.

I didn't think they could have a top, like, one defense that they did. I thought Kat would, like, really hold them back defensively because he kind of did last year. And we saw his lack of mobility in the perimeter really hurt them in a lot of scenarios. That's, I think that was a big reason why the Gobert and Kathy didn't really. work last year, spacing offensively and defensively. And I was just like, we have all these teams that are so good. They're not going to have an elite offense or defense.

And I was right about the offense. The offense is about what I expected. Middle of the road. I thought their clunkiness and lack of spacing in that way would hold them back on that end, and it did. I was just dead wrong about the defensive side of the ball. They have been absolutely incredible. Rudy Gaubert is healthy and looked like Gaubert. Anthony Edwards made a big leak defensively. Mike Connolly has been solid. Nickale Alexander Walker had been one of the best

primitive defenders in the NBA from the point guard position. I didn't know that would be a thing. Obviously, I was high on Jay McDaniels, but, like, Katz done his job, and even with him gone, Nasree stepped in that role, and, like, neither of them have been bad or holding them back in any way

and have allowed everything else to flourish alongside them. I didn't think that was going to be the case. I agree, bro. Literally so shocking, bro. So shocking. No one saw that shit coming. Yeah, good for them.

Some people were high on it, and I respect them, I guess, but I wasn't really to write it down on that hill. I agree. I agree. Donovan, you want to talk about what you're right about? What I was right about? Yeah.

Let's give it wrong about it. So I'll go through one wrong and then we'll go through one right. The thing that I think I was most wrong about was I said that the ceiling for the Dallas Mavericks was 500 this year. Okay. You were right, though, before the trades. I was. I was kind of. But so, okay, you know, I'll give myself a little bit of credit.

I need to go back. Yeah, I need to go back. I need to pull up our predictions episode and see. I got it right now. Okay. So you had the Dallas Mavericks at 10. I'll go next while you guys look over that. One thing I was wrong about was I thought the Golden State Warriors would be perfectly fine.

I predict them to be like a top five seed. I thought they'd be, you know, chugging along, them and the Warriors. I've added them to Lakers, both at four and five or so. They are not perfectly fine. They're extremely mid. Now, they're decent now, but the conference is so loaded and got so much better. that the Warriors kind of got left in the dust I didn't expect them to be so down horrendous

post losing Jordan Pool losing a step of Clay Thompson everything else they lost I thought they'd start the season a lot better than they did true true it's tragic for them bro I mean we were all I was especially wrong with them

I think I had them the highest yeah I'm looking at right now I had them as high as the third seed you had them as the fourth seed not too much higher but still you had high expectations and Donnell was actually the little was on him because he was so high on it compared to a lot of other teams but yeah this season we see them the most uh getting their ass kicked for making horrendous decisions back in the what

2020 NBA draft draft picks always comes back to bite teams in the ass people just don't realize that until it's year three or four and when they're really supposed to have these players start to enter their prime years and so yeah man like it's just it's a tough scene for the Warriors and they failed for hell of reasons whether it be Dremont Green and his like personal issues Clay Thompson fighting his demons and getting over the ego trip and all that other shit and then Steph Curry is having natural ups and downs

bro. It's just there's no room for errors. Yeah I thought most the movie would have a big role in the team. I thought Wiggins would be back to playing like normal which he's got he's up and down but like I just thought they would be who we saw them be over the last 20 games I thought that'd been then the whole year and they'd been perfectly fine. Yeah that's fair. Okay I pulled up the predictions episode. I was wrong about the New Orleans Pelicans.

I had the Pelicans at 12. Damn. 12. I was not a believer in Zion. I did not think that he was going to be able to stay healthy. Wow. And I did not think that any of this would be able to work. I did not think that they would be able, right now,

they are six in that rating. they have there are six defense i did not see that that coming um at all so zion has has obviously like stepped it up and has you know morphed honestly like from the version of zion and what we kind of thought he was going to be when he first got into the league to where he is now which is like year five which is crazy but he's been able to to switch up his game and new Orleans has adjusted how they how they use him and it's really unlocked kind of of like a new level for him and for them and right now their biggest problem is just like that the overall personnel doesn't fit around them in order to get to like championship stuff

yeah but I mean listen they're good enough to be in top six and I did not think that coming into the year chat did y'all believe did y'all believe in the pelagos coming in this year chat let us know yeah uh I I was wrong about them to an extent because I thought their defense would be really terrible because their defensive personnel in the starting lineup is terrible and it's been good they've managed to coach their way into having a really good team defense over the But I think I was right about the reasons I pointed out at the beginning of the year that Yonis found Junis is a terrible fit there next to Zion and that like it's just a lot of pieces that too many we need to get rid of that position there gets some more mobility gets more rebounding preferably since basing at the center position I think all that's been proven right still. They've just managed to be good despite of it because Trey Murphy, Herb Jones, Brandon Ingham are defending so well on the perimeter as your wing trio that they've been able to mask that big issue but I do still think it's a big issue. Yeah. I agree, man. I agree. Damn, bro. I personally was high on them. Well, no, actually it wasn't. Me and you, Isaac had them as the seventh seed. But as its season continued, I started to see glimpses of not greatness, but like, hey, yo, they're actually kind of cooking something after all these years with Zon. You know what I'm saying? They've been a good team in general with that was on since last year when they faced off, I think, like against the feeding sons or two years ago. against the Phoenix Suns in the playoffs or whatever it was.

They've always been a good team, but seeing them put the pieces together was interesting. They have a whole lot of mixed match pieces, and it took a long time for Blue Green to figure it out, and he's figured it out mostly more than ever. And I was just, like, super skeptical on them for all the right reasons, like you were saying. Like, Zon's just a huge X factor. And the West got so much better, too. So it's like, how can you rank them higher? Yeah, and they're not that much different from the seventh seat right now

They're currently the five seed Oh, six actually And the Grizzlies fell apart Which if they were healthy, you would assume would have been higher So like, I think we were about right with the Pelicans Yeah, I agree for sure That's another thing The Grizzlies, nobody expected all their players to get hurt

So they are a big X factor here I'm sure they would have been in top six seats like always If that never happened So you got to keep that in mind Whenever you think about everybody And where you place them before the season Mm-hmm another one I was very wrong about

the other team was on the screen right now the Oklahoma City Thunder chat let me know if y'all thought the Oklahoma City Thunder would be a top three team in the Western Conference coming in this year because I know a lot of people were very high on them. People like Bill Simmons

were famously very high in them coming to the season and were like you know I think they could be a sneaky top four team and like I heard all that and I like I saw the vision a little bit I knew they could be better I thought they'd still be a playing team I thought the hype was getting a little bit too extreme because I didn't really

realize the different shed home green would make i was like listen it's a rookie big let me be conservative let me assume that he'll play like a rookie big and things will take time right he came off a whole season and missed let's assume he will be a normal rookie the motherfucker is not the motherfucker is one of the best for protectors in the NBA transform their defense overnight transformed their offensive scheme overnight by giving them a true stretch five who is more than just somebody who can hit open three he's a truly stretch five that really makes defense is really good out there can attack off the dribble honestly is one the more impactful impactful players' additions into the NBA this year

and change that team on both sides of the ball, that's a single factor that made them go from, like, maybe being a play in range to top three. Plus, Dave. Yeah, we were wildly wrong, all of them to go back in time. I think I had them as an eighth seed, I believe,

off the top of my head. Let me go ahead and look, check real quick on this. We all had playing range. Yeah, I think range is more important in the specific seed, but we all had them in the main area, right? Exactly. You had eight seed, I had eight seed, and Donovan's seventh seat.

So playing in a range, we all saw them coming. Last year, they were literally in the plane as well. And Chet, like you said, is the main reason why the entire equation has changed. She's been Shea. He's been the same player since last year. Obviously, a little bit better his time with that natural progression. J-Ub, same thing. He just literally gets better every single week of his career, it sort of seems like.

And Chet is the main thing that just makes this position. puzzle piece so interesting he's like the connector and brings all the pieces together for them he's the uniqueness that a lot of teams that do not fucking have yeah i was so long about that yes yes sorry i was i was looking at something else um yeah no i think i i think i was also with isaac in the fact that like i wanted to put the thunder very very high and i just wanted to be conservative um i i just i really really thought that they could be a top six seed i i did not think at all that they were going to be like you know fighting for the number one seed but i mean after after everything that that shay was doing last year and we saw especially in the playing game

the one thing that they were missing all year was a big man and chet homgren came in and was exactly that and he fit everything that he he he he fit everything that he he the mold of everything that they needed. And that's really why I wanted to vault them up. But like Isaac said, I was like, he's, listen, he's a skinny rookie coming off of a foot injury. Let's keep it down a little bit. And, but no, they're, they're great.

They're probably going to make a deep playoff run. And yeah. Side note, our logo is currently on the scoreboard on the TNT game right now. If you watch, if you got switched to Thunder versus 76ers, there's currently a max advertisement for the deep three on max. Come out to I'm about to I'm about to

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That's dope That's really cool Yeah but what was I saying Oh yeah another team I was extremely wrong about Lemo let's talk about it The Atlanta Hawks What went wrong I mean

Everything Like everything Where do I even start? Clint Capella, he's shown clearly that he has past his peak years. He still has value, but it's in ways that just don't benefit the team as much as we needed, you know, the defense and how he is offensively in the decisions that he makes. But more importantly than that, just the Dejante Murray and Trey Young pairing. When Trey Young is on the court, only him and not Dejante, he has a plus three net rating.

for Dejante Murray he's plus point three still he's a positive player you know but you know when they're together they're like a minus two or minus three they just clearly just do not gel well um because of their play styles are both literally lead ball handlers and there's not much that they do that makes each other's life easier on offense and fucking defense which is like a shocker to a lot of Hawks fans entering uh this dezante Murray era dating back to like last year because That was one of the main selling points. Oh, yeah, I have the defensive guards go in and take away all the pressure. And Dejante is just like he was cooked for a lot of, for the majority of the time since he was in Atlanta.

So he just said he that went wrong, bro. But, you know, let's move on. Yeah, I'm mad at myself because when this trade happened, I didn't believe in it whatsoever ever. I made a video and I immediately was like, why if you have Trae Young would you want to pair him with Dejante Murray, a guard whose best attribute is having the ball in his hands being an interior score and passer something that doesn't gel well with playing off ball

next to another point guard on top of him not being the best shooter in the world. None of it made sense. And I was right the first year. And I still fucking gasped at myself coming to this year that they would be better. I don't know if I blame you, if I blame Zach Lowe, if I blame everybody else who told me Quinn Snyder was an amazing coach. Whoever was, I was

influenced and I was like, they'll figure it out. They have them of talent. They got to be better than they were last year. Quinn Snyder's an offensive genius he'll get the most out of them they just were who they were and I should have stuck to who I originally thought but side note I pulled it up this is from NBA's Twitter

look at that scoreboard it's blurringness but that's us over there on the scoreboard bro that's fucking crazy not as hard your face is currently on the sideline of a 70 pictures game how do you feel oh my god

that's crazy wow it's nuts cut to this there it is look at mo my god that that's really cool that that's really cool look these glorious headphones wow bro shit that's crazy wow that just threw me off my game that's that's out of highlights man yeah exactly go shout out the warner media family or Warner Bros Discovery my bed oh my goodness like I like like trophies by Drake or something Did y'all boys not get the memo?

No, that's hilarious. Y'all boys not get the memo. I thought it was going to pop some champagne. Oh, that's hilarious. One thing that I'll say, I think, about the Hawks is like, you were, I don't want to say, gaslit into them. Because I did not gaslight you. I just gave you very good reason as to why it was fair to go ahead and give them. them more props than a lot of people wanted to.

And one of the main reasons for that was shooting. They did add that. They had a full year, or they had an opportunity to have a full year, of Sadiq Bay, full year of Bogdan Bogdanovich back, and he's been great. No shade to him whatsoever. And on top of that, you know, Jalen Johnson rose and he'd just been like an absolute stud. All those things being said, like, you would think that everything went right for this

team, fucking completely opposite way. defense has been still a huge issue in Quinn Snyder a lot of people have realized like oh shit is this dude a Rudy go bear merchant right now because the second that he's not around him it's just like everyone's like hold on man this dude's game plan isn't really that effect of whatsoever and it's the complete opposite of what this team meets you know so he's for sure a Rudy go bear merchant that's a perfect way to say it and listen so the pelle is not ridgo bear also you weren't gaslit I I I feel like the Hawks were like the trendy pick and it was like it was like the sleeper that's

not a sleeper that everybody knows about everybody was raving about the Hawks because they got an actual coaching because everybody expected Jalen Johnson to especially you guys were expecting Jaylon Johnson to take a oh yeah right about that let's go yeah yeah so you know shout to you guys I was I thought that I had a hot take saying oh yeah the Hawks are going to have a top five offense this year and you guys both looked at me and we're like bro this this is actually very regular like we kind of expect them to be a high flying offense like that they're like most said there were a lot of reasons to think that they were going to be a good team where you guys were wrong and where i was right though was y'all had the nerve to put the Atlanta hawks above the new york nix and i

told y'all from the start that the nicks were going to be better and this is i'm i'm taking a victory lap on this because i have very little victory laps to take so so so that's That's the only reason why I'm... They traded for OG and Nobie. That's the only difference there. They were a five-seat-ass team, but they traded for Ogini-N-O-O-G-N-O-O-G-N-O-Bi and O'G-N-O-G-N-N-O-By and They were still better.

I'm going to give them five-en-up. Regardless, O'G and Nubi are not, they're still way better in the... Yeah, but our point was not... We didn't give a fuck about Nix... I didn't give a fuck about Nix versus Hawks. I gave a fuck about Nix... They were about a five-seed.

They were about a five-seed. And they were, and then they trade for Ogini and Obie, and now they're better. Like, things materially changed. I told y'all, I saw the vision before the vision was even possible. Yeah, this was between me and dollars. We had bread on the line. That's next level, Nostradamus, right? Yeah, I give that to you.

We have bread on the line. Yeah, bro. I just get sad when I think about the line. Famous double or nothing. Yeah. You're so mad that day. That's so funny. what else

we're wrong about let's see wrong about so let's go back to what we're right about I was right about the Orlando Magic I predicted them to be I think I had him as the 8C

but I was like don't be surprised if they break into the top six I was like they're gonna be very good now and I also said that people were going to the season were very high on Markle Fultz

because he had a strong end of last year he had a good like 15 games to finish the season and I was like they're gonna be good don't be surprised if Markov Fultz has nothing to do with that

because he's the odd man out there. They had a log jam at guard while needing spacing and I was like he does not make sense fitting next to the starting line at all. It played out exactly like that. Jalen Suggs has taken a leap which I don't remember how I felt

about Jaylen Sucks coming into the season but I was like him and Colin had to make a lot more sense there than said of Markle Foltz and that's how it's played out. Palo and Franz have been as advertised when the car Jr. surprisingly hasn't been as good as I thought he'd be but they've managed to be a great defense

despite this weird center rotation. They've been everything you could hope they'd be. yeah no they've been uh that's something else that i was right about as well i didn't have i had them a seed lower than you isac but one of my biggest victory lapses like i said it crown eaters in the uh long form or whatever were laughing at me when i said oh x factor jane sucks three point shot you can say that about like 80% of young players in the league and it's very factual but that was one thing that changed so much for this team but things that i did not like foresee coming where the depth of this team uh franz wagner's brother mo wagner is he is one of the most

entertaining bench players bench centers to watch one of the best role players in the entire nba has energy tenacious go goga godzae even though like his name doesn't have much motion at all but he was truly valuable when someone like windle carter went down you know there's a reason why no like window carter goes down yeah like no one really cares no one really sees that value because of guys like that. Jonathan Isaac is Jonathan Isaac. We all know how much of a monster, like, defensively, he is, and this season he's done nothing to, but continue to show that.

And Paolo and Franz just continue to develop, even though, like, Franz hasn't had this season that a lot of people envisioned them had. Yeah. Chat, what was y'all's best prediction this year? Let us know all the teams that you were really right about or players are really right about. Oh, another one was wrong about is Jordan Poole.

I thought he'd be solid. I thought he'd repair his reputation and get... I thought he'd be a stat pattern, but I thought he'd be a stat pattern, but I thought he'd get buckets. You know, I thought he'd average, like, 22 points per game and, like, be able to get some value back. I thought it was going to be MIP, man.

Damn. That's crazy. Yeah. Tough times. Tough times. The Jordan Pool believer. I told y'all. He was not going to be good on the court.

If he was going to be good in D.C., that was not happening. Someone said they're right about the Nuggets. Congrats. Yeah. Congratulations, bro. You can't claim me right about the Nuggets. or the Celtics.

Yeah. Yeah. Everybody was. Good job, buddy. Oh. One thing that I was right about also, the Sacramento Kings, they have faced some adversity that I foreseen, which is like, you know, last year they were the most healthiest teams in the entire NBA.

This season, they didn't, they don't have that. I don't want to say luck, but they just don't have that durability. Darren Fox had an injury completely, like, destroyed the trajectory that he was on. Malik Monk as of late got injured as well And on top of that The roster just stayed the exact same And they just baked in They invested too much chips

Into their development of their young core AKaa like Keegan Murray Although he was a great young player I'd love to have him on my team But to have him as like to expect like an all-star type of leap from him You know It's just like a little bit too much so Yeah

Oh when I was right about in a very funny way That's like nothing I want to take a grip lap on, which is hilarious. I said the Pacers are, like, guaranteed to be the six-seed, and they're currently the six-seed. I was like, put it in stone. They are the fucking six-seed. This is a six-seed-ass team. They are precisely the six-seed, and I imagine they'll finish there. Yeah, you're right.

And, you know, for all the right reasons, sadly, obviously, like we believe they would be higher if Tyrese Hallibur never got hurt. They did trade for Pascoisiac, in which none of us foreseen coming, and with him being on their roster and for still, For them to still be a six seat is like, just interesting slightly. But at the end of the day, congratulations. You're right on that. But on the other side, I was, I thought the Hornets would be a playing team. And then Lamella balls knee fell apart. Terry Rozier got traded.

You gaslit me to hell. But I still, I still maintain. They would have been solid if their team didn't fucking fall apart. Like they- I agree. I swear, dude, I was so confident that they would surprise people this year. And every fucking thing went wrong. Nothing went well for this team. They are fucking cursed.

And I'm never going to predict them to be a buck. expectation ever again. That's the only reason why I had the bulls out of the playoffs because I thought that the Hornets were going to make a push up. The Hornets and the Magic were two like the younger teams, but I was like, listen, watch out for them, right? They're going to be at the bottom. They're going to be

scrappy. They're going to be, they're going to make their way in. And it just just doesn't, just didn't come to fruition. He's missing the rest of it. We didn't even even talked about it. Lamelo Ball is what everybody thinks Zion is now. He has the same long-term ankle issues that Lonzo Ball was crippled by on the Lakers years

before his knee issues. But like Lamello was on serious watch of like what are they going to do about this guy's long-term health? Because he has had no chance to put together any time to put together a good stretch of play. He always starts the season slow, rants back into looking better. This year we had 10 games

of him averaging damn near 30 and 10 being incredibly efficient, looking awesome, immediately gets hurt, has no opportunity to build on that. This is so damaging for the development of a young guard. It's hard to make, it's hard to explain just how damaging this could be. Listen, he doesn't care about that.

He doesn't care by any of that. He got the bag already. He signed a five-year, $260 million deal last year. The Hornets right now are in the mud. Yeah. This is to have your future be tied to your number three overall pick, to already give him the contract. And over the last, and over the last, what, three years,

I guess the first three years of his career he has played he's played 22 games this year and 36 games last year Oh my God Chad how much do y'all believe in lamello ball long term What's y'all current viewpoint on who lamello is going forward Like can you like safely build around him

Like we talk a lot about is he good enough to be like a top true young player Can he be a best player championship team all this shit He is that good I think or could be But if he's never going to play half a season like At what point does it stop mattering we need a question Levar Bonn what the fuck he put in these kids bloodstream when they were younger bro

because this shit is just so sad at this point oh someone says sixth man get out of here that's too much too far yeah that is genuine hate right there that is genuine hate right there bro but damn is it is it yes yes how how is it how is it genuine hate

don't forget don't forget Le Mello ball is going to be a starter what are you mean is some like you that you put someone who who's a sixth man with his type of cachet you're crazy to say that

his career ultimately ends up like that no relax relax listen we're saying the same things about Zion last year he's playing a full season no come on relax all it takes is to get over the issues that are recurring let's not be ridiculous with it I will say in Zion's

defense his issues were more controllable by him than Lamello's is in terms of like his ankle issues like if you have weak ankles you just you'd have weak ankles right but like with zion a lot of the stuff was like tied to his weight tied to his work ethic or stuff like that like that really wasn't so that that was that was some that was a lot of it was even even just going to like not even aside from like the injury stuff people were talking about him and like

his work ethic or how much he was being like all that stuff was coming into play in terms of why people weren't really believing in zion like that sure but you say aside from injury stuff the injuries type was to really matter that's why he was missing games because he like i think last year was a hamstring or something like that or i forget what it was it's like me's hamstring shit like that that's not because he was heavy he just had unlucky injuries like a lot of other players do but listen lemellos also have unlucky injuries but the same recurring injury that might be a pattern right we've seen young players in the past that if you have recurring ankle injuries sometimes it doesn't go away you know it's something that kind of follows you for a while so i can see where that's a little bit

more of a pattern than what Zion was going on. I feel so sorry for the Hornets fans because they have to do what I like to call like rebuild your rebuild. But even then, not only thing about it, they really didn't because they had Gordon-Aird and Terrors year and the plan was just so like sticky and all over the place. It looks like they're like 110% committed to the rebuild rather than like having one

foot in one fit out. But that's because they didn't really decide to be committed. They literally have to because fucking the mill of balls out. And so at this point, you decide to be like, oh, just trade these old guys and just see what happens next they made the play in back to back years and i mean granted they got smoked both years because lamella had bad games but we're not going to talk about that but goodness besides the but yeah i can't watch these hornet highlights i'm really making them watch the poku and grand william show this is hilarious

i'm torturing you're welcome don't disrespect trade man increase your ball knowledge about poku poku versus luke cornet minutes we're fucking here This is Marsh basketball. Some say at least the Hornets got the goat announcer. Facts. At least they got some entertainment on their side. They also have to watch Miles Bridges and pretend it's okay. So maybe they're not doing so well off after all.

That's disgusting, bro. Yeah, I feel so sorry for the Hornets. Yeah, man. Who else do you guys write about? Let's take series victory left. Who else? Who else? You know, a lot of, we talk about everybody to death so much.

I'm trying to find ones A lot of things you're right about But like, yeah, everybody's right about that So I'm trying to find ones that were actually different I think I said the Rockets should be solid You had the Rockets at 13 As Maybe not

Maybe not We all had the Rockets at 13 Yeah I will say something that I did say before the season I don't know if this is a huge victory lap to take considering what transpired last minute, aka Damelaire being a Milwaukee book, but I thought that the Boston Celtics

were going to be by far in a way the best team in the Eastern Conference record-wise, and they have been that because of, you know, adding Drew Holliday, Chris House, Prithingus, and Tatum being Tatum and all that other shit. But it's like a slight victory lap towards that. Yeah, most people agree with you.

I guess I was a little wrong about that. I thought that Damien Lurton and Janus would really just fucking destroy the league. I thought they were going to be, like, the best duo in the league, bar none. And it obviously hasn't worked out that way for a variety of issues. Coaching related, Yannis' ability to acquiesce to a star guard related, Damien Lurd's ability to maintain his rhythm while playing next to a big that needs ball in his hands more.

All these things have combined to, they haven't been horrible, obviously. They're two-seed, but they haven't been as good as they should be given that talent and how good it should fit on paper. So definitely I was wrong about that. I don't know. I'm not really to write off the fact that I was wrong about them being, like, team to be in the playoff settings I still think we might see them

being really great in the playoff setting but I was certainly wrong about them in the regular season dominance that I expected okay that's fair that's fair oh you know why the big reason is I thought their defense would be a lot better that's what I was dead wrong about

and I'm thinking back to what I was saying I was so wrong about that I thought that Damien Lillard wouldn't impact their defense that much that it would get worse but I thought it would go from being like top three to like top 10 and I thought that a baseline

of having Janice and Brooke Lopez would make your defense have a super high floor that it wouldn't be an issue who's at point guard that's a little bit more true now under doc rivers but under adrian griffin that shit wasn't true at all they were a fucking tire fire and they desperately needed drew holidays defensive presence so that that's the big part i was wrong as fuck about because i mean i don't know now under doc rivers i'm a little bit closer to right but it's still like the 12th best defense in the league instead of like top 10 like i thought it would be yeah yeah i guess another thing that we were all right and wrong about or

least i know i know i had a very hard stance you can go back on a little bit the dallas mavericks before the trade i was so right about them they had a record of like 29 and 23 which is just six games above 500 or yeah six games just above 500 and since that i was right about like all my accusations about their trajectory as an organization but of course like since then they're i think they're like 10 games above 500 or something like that or 11 yeah and they've been on a tear as a late they've been on a damn they're almost bro shit they're like 16 games above 500 that's crazy they've won seven in a row bro

they've been amazing oh my god 16 games above 500 is absolutely nuts and you know if I saw this roster coming into the NBA season then I would have very I would have had very different expectations for this team but that's something that I

just chalk up and be like well damn I was right and wrong oh another thing I was right about was in Los Angeles Clippers I was the highest on them and uh but this was before the hard and trade this was before the hard and trade but i was on them because kawai lander paul george how can you go go ahead and go against this man whenever people thought about the clippers at that point in time kawai lander at the time just felt like more of an afterthought no one's thinking of him as like a top 10 15 player out loud because of

just how yeah you have to talk about him there's guidelines when you talk about him because of the injuries and you like that so i guess that's something i could just like wave wave too as well yeah Everyone's spamming crayons in the chat I see y'all shout out crayons Anyways, that's a lot of things We're right and wrong about For the last 20 minutes or so of the show Let's do some hot takes

We got 820 of y'all in the chat right now I'm looking at the analytics Is a 66 chat rate So about 60 of y'all are active in the chat I need all 800 of y'all To spam your best hot takes We're going to rate them as WRL We're going to listen

You guys typically give us some bullshit But there's some good ones mixed in If this bullshit we're going to tell you It's bullshit so let us know Let's do it While you spam in them comments too Don't forget to span the likes We're almost at 600 likes

We should be at 700 likes bro So just reminded me Another take I said I said Steph is better than Luca Yes coming to this season I said that Steph is still better than Luca Luca I don't know if I was wrong about that Because at last year he was

But he passed him up He passed him up Like yeah I wouldn't say I was We were wrong because Luca's better But I think Luca got better this season And now we all have to say That he officially passed up Steph

Is the best point in the league Yeah exactly for sure. No one really wanted to say that at the start of the season because it's kind of crazy because Steph is Steph is Steph. But with the leaps that Luca's taken all around, bro, it's it's clear. The vision is fair. We just had to see it

and we saw it, right? So like I didn't want to be the first one to be like, oh, Lucas, Steph's cooked. But it's time. Yeah, I agree. Let me try to do with the chat. It's moving. Y'all took that shit to heart. All 800 of y'all are active. Oh my goodness. Someone's hot take is KD will make an all defensive team.

that's an interesting one I don't know if he probably won't because there's only two teams does you think he he's been that caliber defender does he deserve it no he's been good

he's been good he's been good one of the 15 best defenders in the league maybe not but he's been great defensively and deserves more recognition for that and I will give it to him

shout out to you Kevin Durant but the all NBA teams will not be the ones recognizing you all right I'll take sorry about that Jeff Vandal says Luca is the best in the league.

Listen, we've been talking about this a lot. I think that's a W take. It's not a W take, but it's reasonable. I think we got to view it every year as the best in the league conversation comes down to the top group of guys that are all in the running for it. Right now, Yokic is definitely number one.

Luca's in that top tier. That's not a bad take at all. I can't give this a W or an L for some reason. If I had a gun in my head, maybe I'd just say L because Yokic is Yolkits where we're witnessing one of the 15 best players. as well time within your eyes, so let's be fucking real. But at the same time, we're witnessing someone who could be in those conversations

too in the next few years. And right now, 34, 10, and 9, what the fuck are we talking about right now? I assume 38% from three on 10 attempts, he might be the best. Yeah. The winning bias wants me to be like, Yokic is in a league of his own. But then you turn on the tape and you watch some of the stuff that Luca Donchitz is doing. And you're like, there's, I don't think that there's anybody else who could do anything that he's doing right now.

So he really might be kind of up there. So, yeah, it's okay to say. I won't call you stupid if you say that. Yeah, I don't agree, but it's reasonable. Kevin Farsi says the Lakers are going to beat the fuck at OKC in the playoffs. Assuming they're playing the first round, do you think OKC will win?

Is that a hot take? Well, it is a hot take, but do you think it's crazy? To think that the Lakers would win? The Lakers will beat O'KC in a playoff setting. No, it's not crazy. And you already, it's not crazy. Yeah, I've been going back and forth on that to where the one weakness for Oklahoma City, obviously, is their size, is the interior.

And there's not a lot of people who can exploit that the way that Anthony Davis can. And the way that AD has been playing, this is the version of Anthony Davis that people have been asking for for the last two, three years. All I need is consecutive games from AD, and you got it. like they can they can 100% push the thunder and beat them w take oh we got donation listen I gotta if people donate with their hot take I gotta read theirs off it's how it goes they pay for the right Dell sold tip three dollars his hot take is bam is a top four center

and should be all NBA this year is bam still top four center if number one two and three is obviously yokech and bead ad is bam still top four has won't be passed him sub boner past him Saboner Where are you guys going Gobert I think that's fine I'm definitely not

I'm not taking Bam over ready for sure Yeah Bam clears for sure Because he gives a value on both ends Yeah But yeah that's without a question I think that's the That's the that's the ranking

It would be for me Yokic Embed A. D. Wemby Bam Gobert Sabonis cat I agree

precisely yeah maybe Jared Allen rounding it out yeah sounds good at nine and then at 10

we can go wherever you want to but I don't look here right now I go chat but I digress sure those two guys

are next up the line whatever you want to put them in got to bring the whites off at the end Christian he has a hot take

he says the timbrewles will get knocked out in the first round I don't think it's ridiculous to say that yeah They don't have cat now, so it's a little...

But then again, they haven't really gotten any worse since adding cat. So maybe we got to stop falling on that crutch. They're stepping through over the last 10 games. Nause Reid stepped into the role beautifully. Listen, if the season ended today, they play the Pelicans. Who'd you pick? Ooh, that's so hard, bro. That is hard as hell.

Oh, my goodness. I'm going to Timberwolves in that one. I think Timberwolves are... Really? Is that easily? Yeah, I think... If you're going to want an answer for Zion, where do you go bears is a good place to start.

That's tough. That's tough. What I need is I need Dallas to fall to six and I need Luca to play the Timberwolves so that he could eviscerate them. Because if they play, if they play, they're beating them in five.

They're good. They're good. Luca is getting rid of the Timberwolves in five. Clip that chat. Come back to this. Listen, if that happens. If they play,

they are going to beat them in five. Five? Oh my goodness. Bro, the Timberwulf deserve respect. They're good. From who? The last nine games or so that, or seven games at Zion Williams and I just played against Rudy Gobert, he averages like 29 points and he shoots like 70%, 65% from the field, bro. So it's like, I used to gober and shut him down.

But if you're developing the playoffs, everything's different to the playoffs and you're really keying in, really making game on specific purposes. True. Rudy Gobert is a hell of a weapon. If you're really locked in on stopping one guy. And with a smart coach in a playoff setting, there's a lot you can do with Rudy Gaubert and Nasreed. I've seen Terrence, man, run Rudy Gower off the fucking port.

Yeah, talk about it, Mo. Talk about it. Yeah, we'll be real dumb today. Let's go. Let's talk about it. That's a liability. I've seen the Bronn post them up. Yeah, let's keep going.

Oh, bro. He can't guard him. Take what he want me to say. He can't buy LeBron? My bad. Can't do it. Someone said, Janus is a top 12 player of all time.

Yeah, no, we're good. That's a L take for sure. He's not better than Yoki's all time. Oh, they're close. They're close together. He's not better. I just won an MVP and defensive player in the same damn year.

We ain't seen that since like Michael Jordan, bro, so. People forget about that. People forget about that. I still have an immense accomplishment. People definitely forget about that. Yeah, that is insane. We won't see that until Wemby reaches like 24, 25.

Facts was going to say Wembe in 18 months? Yeah, exactly. I was like, wait, no, this motherfuckers in the league. Dale Soltip's another $3. He says, Hot take. Don will be playing like Prime Mello and whoop, Mo, and Isaac's ass straight out of the gym. Oh my goodness. That is like probably the worst take I've heard in TD3 history.

Maybe like, OK, C, Mello. Donovan. Okay, Steve, that's crazy. He's taking these to heart. He's putting these down the flash drive in his mind right. now bulletin board material and I haven't doubt it for four years so it said 2019 kawai is the most underrated peak of the 2010s I think it's pretty highly rated I don't know about underrated I wouldn't you can't rate it at all you can't rate it it's hard to

rate it and and do that because it felt like it felt like a one-year peak because the next year we go to the bubble and everything gets thrown off and then Kauai gets hurt a couple years and that was that was the first time or not the first time but even the year prior to that like he gets hurt in the in the playoffs like there's a there's a one and a half two year stretch where Kauai's peak is and we just don't get to see it for a long time because of COVID and injuries. Yeah well but the COVID year I mean the year after that he was honestly better he was amazing. Remember that's the year his passing came around he was averaging five assists per game previous year. The championship year he only had 3.3 assists. That was his career

high. He had never been a passer at all. He was a black hole. Then the first year at the clipper he was having 27.1 points, 4.9 assists, 7.1 rebounds, 37% from three, 47% from the field. He was a fucking maniac in 2020. Like, that is still a peak year, I think. He was, but if you look at these games played, I mean, the year that they won the championship, he played six games. And then we go 57, 52, 52, and he missed an entire year of because of the ACO. We have not seen, this is the first time, Kauai's played 68 games this year. This is the first time that we have seen Kauai play from start to finish a legitimate season and be Kauai Leonard.

And even then, he's averaging 23.7. It's like, it's decent, right? It's good, but it's not obviously peak Kauai. Yeah, well, that's mostly, you know, James Hardin's there. It's a bit different. He's a few light shots between him. before that. I mean, but we haven't seen this Kauai from front to back

with the game is played in literally seven years. Yeah, yeah. He really has a two-year peak. 2019 and 2020. And I guess if we go to 2017, the year before the injury, we'll throw that in there too. He was pretty amazing that year. Really a three-year peak. Yeah. And I guess

we can have 2021. He started in 24.8 Before that was before the... 2015? We'll start 2015-2016 because he was second in MVP voting in that year. Yeah. It wasn't really a scoring peak, though, only 21 points per game. Second an MVP is still ridiculous, though.

Okay, yeah, we'll start. We'll start that. Before your peak starts, it's fucking crazy as hell. On a rookie contract? How do you make sense of that, bro? I don't even know, bro. That's crazy. All right, next hot take. Let me try to scroll this down.

I got one. You got one? Myel says, hot take, Dallas is the biggest threat to Denver. W take. Well, in the west. Obviously, the Celtics are the Celtics. Yeah. In the West, I can see that.

It's a W. Is there no other team that you think gives them real issues or you can foresee like a real upset happening? Oh, the Thunder. Real upset. No, no, no. No, the Thunder don't give an upset. But real trouble where it's going to be a hard-fought series. Yeah.

But I think the Nuggets win that most times. Yeah. If you go into like playoff mode, you need to have a guy that can go nuclear and you need to be able, especially like once you start going further and further, you need to be able to say we have the best player on the floor too and Dallas right now in the West is one of the is honestly the only team that can look Yokic in the eye and say yeah like I'm on your level I can make things happen as well so W take I agree with that people are laughing at your love for trace Jackson Davis someone's a hot take he's

even better than mow things yeah very next game right after that pod too he dropped 18 on the fucking orlando magic and he was the main reason why they one of the main reasons why they won every time you pull out a stat line it's always just like a good game but nothing insane it's a great game you wanted to make him a bench warmer what do you mean that's a great game bro i thought you're about to say fucking he came out and dropped 32 he had 18 against an elite defense yeah we take all victories here but he could put up head and i'm still running around this bitch Jamarca just donated one dollar

without Jamal Murray Lakers stand a chance against the nuggets the way they've been playing well I mean they have Jamal Murray so sure yeah if there's no Jamal Murray you'd be right Personally Pesson says Janus is still the best

player in the world Honestly Boo I it's not crazy we definitely we've taken we're at the point we're taking Janus for granted for sure

I understand Yokos has the crown because he just won the Tamp Chidal One of the best offensive players I've ever seen For being real, Yonis is still Just neck and neck just as good as him Obviously I understand the difference of Yokic And how he's legitimately one the best offensive players ever Yonis is having a ridiculous year, bro

He is so taking for granted I don't know I don't like the way he word of that frame that Neck and neck is like, eh, I wouldn't say neck and neck because there's certain things I don't think it's neck and neck I think it's it's too much neck top

So I stopped myself I'm just like I was someone on his neck and a tat man damn Bro he is a 61% field goal percentage this year That's nuts I think that's the most efficient 30 point per game score in NBA history

It has to be Like that's fucking ridiculous I mean Oh what is Shaq average At his prime I think Shaq is there For sure Wilts is there I think he'd probably put up like 51% or something like that.

I think he is. Yonis is by far and away. Damn. 2000 Shaq had a 57% from the field. Damn. Are you joking? I mean, make you put up cleaning the glass.

What is Yonis shooting at the rim right now? I got to know. Probably like 80% bro. That's absurd. 80% off of all like strictly self-created off the dribble shots attacking from the perimeter, not just post-ups. He's that 78% at the rim right now. That's crazy as hell.

Oh my God. Listen, night against the Wizards. Yannis had 35 points, 15 rebounds, tennises. He's a goon. In a loss. They lost the leader? Maybe it is neck and neck. They lost 117, 113.

Oh, that's hilarious. Oh, God. This is why he came with fucking MVP. You can't be doing it, God damn it. Do you want to be finished with 24 points? Or is the game over? I can tell. Yes, it just ended.

Joel and be finished 27 points, four assists. He's one? What, one rebound? I'm looking at the wrong person. Seven assists. six rebounds yeah 24 six turnover a little bit of rust he's he heated up towards the end because I think during the third quarter or something like that he he was just like 16 and they were like down by like 15 or so you got his 12 free throws naturally four files

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