The Deep 3 Podcast - Every NBA Team's Biggest Regret | Ep. 195

Episode Date: March 12, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You know what's got to be the worst thing to endure as an NBA fan? Tell me about it. Getting the number one overall pick. Seeing previous teams got the number one overall pick, draft transformational superstars. I know exactly where this is going. That completely altered the trajectory of their franchise. This is not a good hook.
Starting point is 00:00:16 Please. And then you bring in. Please. And immediately break the fourth wall. And then you bring in French, David Nawabah into your franchise. That's a disrespect. You know what I would call that? to David Nau.
Starting point is 00:00:30 Zachary Rishish, it would never tear his ACL. You know what I would call that? What did you call it? A big-ass regret. That's what I would call that. It's not his fault. It's not his fault.
Starting point is 00:00:38 It's the regret of the Atlanta Hawks. And as you guys see by the title, we are going to pick every NBA team's biggest regret over the last year, ideally. Some of these, you know, the teams are on a good stretch, have made nothing of good decisions. So we might move some back to like a year and a half, maybe two years max, but pretty much the biggest regret that currently haunts the last 12 to 18 months for this team.
Starting point is 00:00:58 Okay. Let's do it. David Nuwaba. You're going to hell. Cue the intro music. We're throwing it back. Whoa. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:01:13 He was bragging. I don't need to sit. The cranium is crazy. Oh my God. Thank you. Crowd-eaters rejoice. Before we get into the biggest regrets for every single NBA team this year, kind of a little bit of housekeeping to do.
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Starting point is 00:03:08 Shout out paying B's sole salary. Hey! I'll be checking this Friday. Let's get into the biggest regret for every single NBA team. Donovan, where do you want to start with your negativity? We will start with the Golden State Warriors. How do you narrow this down for them? In an obviously treacherous position?
Starting point is 00:03:31 Well, yeah, everything was bad. I think at this point, when everything is bad, you just can't go outside. You can't look embarrassing. And so to them, I bet they would have wished that they traded Kaminga back in the summer. That you didn't have to extend this out another four, five months and wait until February and then have him have three games immediately after he gets traded where he starts going crazy. Like, I, the report that came out of you were telling him that he's getting too much food, those types
Starting point is 00:04:05 you'll never get over that I will never get over that that's ridiculous but that that level of pettiness was very very clear that it wasn't just like these last five months were the boiling point they had been at a point with Kamiga that they did not rock with him in that way they did not see him as a part of the future and they've they had had so many opportunities
Starting point is 00:04:26 where Kamiga could have been the quote unquote savior or savior is a massive word That is how they treated. No, that's not a massive word. That's how they treated for sure. But like a very integral part of what they want to do of the next step, this whole two timelines thing. And it just didn't work.
Starting point is 00:04:41 And it just got to a real ugly place. So I think if they could go back and do it again, a summer trade for Kamenga probably would have made sense. Do you think, I'm sure like that was at least at the bare minimum explored. I don't know if they just liked what was offered for Kamika, honestly. Apparently, I remember correctly. I remember the Kings were in the mixture. He was obviously a restricted free agent last summer.
Starting point is 00:05:01 he ended up signing the qualifying offer. I don't know if he actually got a concrete offer sheet, which is what was needed, obviously. I think to get there, you have to kind of have a framework in mind with his current team to make it worth it that you know they're going to sign and trade. Otherwise, you're not going to throw an offer sheet
Starting point is 00:05:15 in tight a cap space if you are the kings, knowing the Warriors will match. That's kind of a bad scenario for you. So there's a lot of logistics that need to come into place for that to even be possible. But I imagine if they were truly motivated, they could have gotten it done. There was rumors of a Malik Monk swap
Starting point is 00:05:27 being on the table last summer. They clearly could have Malik Monk right now if they wanted him. It just doesn't make sense. Because we've known, honestly, Camiga demanded a trade like two years ago. He just demanded like three trades every time they're like shut up and work. We've been in this situation so many times with Kaminga.
Starting point is 00:05:48 And it has just never worked out. And so now you have a season where Steph is injured and he's going to take even more time. Probably not going to play the rest of the season. Dremont, you're having trade rumors. with Dremont, the legends of the franchise are now falling one by one. The pieces and the foundation of this entire organization are crumbling and you won't do anything to save it. And Kaminga probably could have been one of the ways out.
Starting point is 00:06:19 And all you got was poisingas and like a salary note. Yeah. And that's it. You literally got an expiring contract. Yeah, you're 100% right. One of the things that this team has been absolutely dog shit at is just asset, asset, asset management over the last few years. You know, they have so many, this past offseason, there was not really too much
Starting point is 00:06:37 into the second round because, of course, like, yeah, they went into the second round and they got, of course, walked by the Minnesota Timberwolves, but only because Steph Curry was hurt for the end of that series. But outside of that, like, they did everything pretty much right up until that point. There was not too much room for growth. They did sign out Horford. I guess that could be like some form of criticism, but back then, too, people thought that was like a really good acquisition.
Starting point is 00:06:59 Maybe someone could have said they could have added more to that or gotten younger. But at the end of the day, you're right. Like this comming a thing, it just will forever stand out because it did not need to get this nasty. Yeah. And it's probably hard to pinpoint the exact moment. They should have traded him to maximize value. Like I said, with the restrictive free agency, it's an awkward situation. But they clearly got the worst case scenario in that value.
Starting point is 00:07:18 Maybe it's the previous trade deadline. They should have traded him. But again, that's easier to have done because his value was kind of up and down. But they clearly did not make the right decision there. I'm sure they regret not getting more for him, however they could have. Yeah. Only Mike Dunleave you know is exactly. what he could have got, and I'm sure it keeps him up at night a little bit.
Starting point is 00:07:32 The whole thing is just, it just got to be annoying. After a certain point, we're like, we're doing all this hooplaught for Kamiga. It's too much. It is. Let's stay in the Pacific Division. Go through the rest of that because I don't want to do 30 timesamps or 30 teams. Let's go to the other team that is mentioned in that Kaminga debacle. Sacramento Kings.
Starting point is 00:07:47 To me, this one is very easy. The biggest regret. Everything. Everything for real. But the one thing we can pinpoint. We can go back to last year's trade deadline. Trading Deerrin Fox for Zach Levine and not prioritizing future draft capital. Their biggest regret was trying to pivot out of Deeran Fox
Starting point is 00:08:02 into another win-now situation with their worst player. That did not work at all. If you think back to it when they traded him, they so easily could have gotten two to three first-on picks for him and really completely started the rebuild faster than they're doing now, which they're already in now. They're rebuilding clearly. They could have accelerated that tremendously.
Starting point is 00:08:19 If they really wanted to be smart, they could have traded him for two to three first-on picks and then traded Sabonis the next day when his value was still decent and got two to three more first-round picks, they had the perfect opportunity to blow it up at an opportune time and decided to laterally move. I shouldn't even say laterally, actually, because Zach Levine is just worse than Deer & Fox.
Starting point is 00:08:35 It was viewed as lateral at the time because I think I at least like the fit, ideally, of Zach Levine being an offball shooter next to DeMontasabonis' the passing hub. Did not work out at all, though. They clearly got tremendously worse. Yeah. I feel like, if I remember correctly,
Starting point is 00:08:48 De Nair and Fox specifically requested a trade specifically to the Spurs and he wanted to be in Texas in general for some family stuff or whatever. So I think I view that as like them doing right by, God forbid, their franchise legend. Yeah, well, they could have right by him and still got in a pick or young player trade.
Starting point is 00:09:03 It was a three-team deal. Zach Levine wasn't a spur. They ended up rerouting some of the options. I think the Bulls, no, the Bulls didn't get a first-on pick. I think nobody moved a first-on-pick, which is hilarious my practice. The Spurs ran off on everybody.
Starting point is 00:09:13 But they should have forced the Spurs to move a pick, forced the third team to give them another pick, whatever the three-teamation of stuff ended up being. They clearly could have prioritized draft picks over Zach Levine. That's a nasty word, man. This franchise, man. They, they,
Starting point is 00:09:27 I feel for them in, or, I feel for the fans in the sense of like they had one taste of success and competency in the light of beam season. And then ever since then, they've been trying to chase that mid and chase the high. And for it, I do get it though because it's like, what's the alternative? Okay, now we're going to rebuild and restart again. We just did that for two decades. Tough. That's reality. Now, what are you doing now? Twelve months later, you're rebuilding. Unfortunate. But that, that was, they weren't in a win option. There was no scenario there where they were going to become competent. And they probably should have seen that coming.
Starting point is 00:10:00 Do you think, so, so you think that the Fox trade was more of a regret than firing Mike Brown? Yes. I don't care that much on Mike Brown. I don't care that much on Mike Brown. I mean, clearly, like, they probably shouldn't have fired him, all things considered. Yeah. If we want to go back a little further and say we could have saved this King's era. I don't want to save this King's era.
Starting point is 00:10:18 And they don't want to either anymore. They understand now. They're on the right track. They're trying to restart. They just are behind the eight ball now. I'm assuming the Halley trade is too far back, right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's a whole, that's going to hang over them forever.
Starting point is 00:10:29 was one of the biggest regrets. Yeah, that's obvious. But for this era, they could have got much further than they are now in this rebuild. Who was next to the Pacific Division? I have a team here, and that is the Phoenix Suns. Now, this team specifically have done, they've done like pretty much every single right decision since trading away KD back in July and getting Dylan Brooks in the door, and then Empower calling Gilipsia and all that.
Starting point is 00:10:57 And they drive to Kamala Walsh, who hasn't been. and getting that much burn. But that's late. He played a couple nights to go into the Charlotte Hornets. He looked. He looks good. He looks good. They have a center for the future.
Starting point is 00:11:06 But the obvious thing that I'm kind of bearing right now is the whole Bradley Beal thing. They finally got off of him, what, this summer? And of course, that has been the biggest talking about for them, that whole experience, one of the worst disasters of this pretty much, like, last decade, honestly, with how serious and dedicated, they were dedicated and how, like, harsh and, like, irrational that ishbia was. Bradley Beal's contract was a single most crippling thing that any team could experience over the last like fucking five to 10 years,
Starting point is 00:11:35 but paying someone $50 million was not additive to your best player or your second best player's actual game and the nuances in this game while also having a no trade clause on that contract to killer. Yeah, obviously for them. They're in a good scenario now. The movies they made as of late. There's no real regrets because they made a good pivot. You know, they're so far ahead of schedule.
Starting point is 00:11:54 You really can't take any exception with what they did this past summer that if you look before that, all you can focus on is the Bradley Beale trade. There's no real way to talk about anything else and try to get cute. It is clearly the Bradley Beal trade. That will link her forever. Top five.
Starting point is 00:12:07 Top five scammer in a Bay history, I think. I think Beel might. He's either on, he's either top five. The no trade clause really, really vaults him forward in that ranking. I think we have more than five true scammers. Bradley Bill got too much money, but he was at least good.
Starting point is 00:12:23 The no trade calls. No trade calls me. That's the, I lean towards top five idiot GMs gave him that more than top five scammers because there's some real scammers in the history of the NBA. He's at minimum, minimum, honorable mention
Starting point is 00:12:35 in the fine print, others receiving votes category. He would be there. You definitely a top five bad getter for sure. Definitely top five bad getter. We will spend no more time on Bradley Buell. I have, let's go to Los Angeles Lakers. I actually, so somebody might say
Starting point is 00:12:51 obviously this past summer, or the trade deadline, not making moves to go all in and make the test team better now, not making it so we can have at least somewhat hope they can make a deeper run in the playoffs. But I actually don't think any of the moves that made last summer are regrettable in terms of what was on the table.
Starting point is 00:13:05 Obviously, one of the McKee, Dorian and Finney Smith at first, he's fucking cooked. I know obviously people don't like the Aden move, don't love Jake LaRavia at this point. He's in a slump. You can't really pinpoint to me great alternatives that make me feel better. So like, as frustrating as DeAndrean is,
Starting point is 00:13:20 as much as I probably don't want him to be a starting center next year, I don't know that you should regret that given what was on the table. You know, like, I don't know if there's a better $8 million center on the board. Yeah. So I'm just going to go back to drafting Dalton Connect in the first round.
Starting point is 00:13:33 God. I'm going to go back to 2024 draft, go back 18 months, cheat a little bit and not due to the last year. Because I think post-Luca trade, it's been frustrating as a fan that wants to see them make moves and get better. Their hands have been kind of tied.
Starting point is 00:13:45 And I at least kind of understand the cautious approach and prioritizing this next summer. Anything they could have done would have been marginal. I guess you can say not trading for Andrew Wiggins if I wanted to move a first-round pick for this past draft, I mean, past trade deadline. But overall,
Starting point is 00:13:56 of mistakes and regrets, getting nothing at the last three draft classes in terms of first round talent is abysmal. Think about what the Celtics have done. It's a part of the reason why you guys are in position you aren't right now. It's the entire reason. It's the entire reason. Think about if Jalen Hitchafino was a competent role player. Think about if Dalton Kineck was a good role player there. If they had two good bench wings there, that would change everything about this team. Yeah. Right. Like people underestimate time to time like how pivotal and impactful a singular NBA draft can be, bro. I just remember, dude, does Charlotte Hornets complete? change the entire trajectory of the fucking franchise, basically.
Starting point is 00:14:30 Off of one draft. In this last draft, they took Con, of course, but then they also took Seon James and then on top of that, too, Calcbriner. They added three solid, impactful pieces to their roster in one season. Because this draft, when they picked, I'll combine it just to get cheeky with it.
Starting point is 00:14:47 Jaylon Hitchefino, imagine if they had, who do you want after this? Who would make this team better? B pods. Yes, you know what? Sure. Imagine if we had B pods instead of what Gabe Vincent was giving, before this draft class, before they traded him.
Starting point is 00:14:59 Imagine that as a backup guard. He could clearly fit next to the other star players. And then going here, we have, where am I looking? Dalton Connect. Imagine if we had Tristan De Silva. Or Jalen Tyson, bro. Or imagine that. Or even give me Jacoby Walter.
Starting point is 00:15:12 Yeah. Keychon George. Give me Kishon George. Good Lord. Imagine Kishon George was a starting small forward next to LeBron. Yeah. Now granted Kishon George is the draft steal. It's hard to say that.
Starting point is 00:15:20 But they very feasibly could have taken Jalen Tyson. That was a wing or Tristan DeSylva. That was clearly a player that made sense of the time for that wouldn't have been a reach no type of hindsight. Or imagine if we had Baylor Shireman to gem this up. Well, we wouldn't have made him good
Starting point is 00:15:33 like the Celtics did. Yeah. But, you know, imagine if we had our version of these guys that good teams at the Celtics go out there and find and make rotation pieces
Starting point is 00:15:40 pretty quickly. The two picks above Dalton 2. Yeah. You see, that just hurt. That one just hurt. I really wanted Koloa. I felt very sure the Lakers had a good chance
Starting point is 00:15:49 of getting him. Yeah. That was one of the targets I really, really wanted. I wanted Kolo Ware or I wanted Zach Edie to drop. Once it became clear he wasn't going to drop.
Starting point is 00:15:56 Yeah. I was really had my eyes on Kuloware, but it didn't work out that way. Yeah. It is, it is tough. I do part of the, part of the thing, though, also is the, the development of, of these first-on picks, that's also been something that that's lacking. And the entire, but the entire connecting as a whole is a big regret because they tried to get off of the Daltzing Connect experiment. They tried to trade him and then he had to come back because Mark Williams' physicals didn't, didn't pass.
Starting point is 00:16:23 And so even, even him coming back to this. the team and his confidence being absolutely shot and now you're in the situation, it's like, ah. How do we feel about that? So yeah, I also wrote down drafting Dalton Connect slash trading Dalton Connect. That's a regret is that it's unfortunate that the Mark Williams thing didn't work out so you had to get him back. Now
Starting point is 00:16:40 it's a regret you should have never tried to trade for Mark Williams because Dalton Connect was night and day a better player before that trade and we like you said, attribute it to confidence. Is that like is that fair to him to say it's all confidence and treat him like a make a wish kid? Or like
Starting point is 00:16:55 Is that doing a lot and giving him too much grace slash like an offensive grace To be like I'm so mentally weak that I need to have my confidence or whatever Like I don't well Maybe he just fell off and maybe he just needs a better team environment I think a lot of things can be true But I also think that I think that you can lack confidence But not also say that like you're mentally weak like that that is a real thing
Starting point is 00:17:15 Oh for sure for sure of like of being traded and like some some people who are on the fringes Might might play differently because they're like oh I don't I don't know what's gonna happen you literally died and came back to life with this team, right? You saw the other side. You know exactly how they feel about you and with them trading you away and then you having to come back. And so now you're working into this entire ecosystem. Obviously there is a part of it where it's like, hey, obviously it's a weird situation.
Starting point is 00:17:43 You are a professional like 18 months later or 12 months later, you are going to have to That's what I mean. You know, like you are going to have to step up and be able to play a role. But I'm not going to act like it's the easiest thing. thing in the world. Yeah. If you're adult to connect, like just thinking about you and his shoes, would you like to see people say, they broke his confidence because they moved him and now he's not the same because he has that in the back of his head. Would you want to see that about yourself? I would be like, bro, I'm fucking fine. I'm just struggling. I'm not getting a lot of minutes.
Starting point is 00:18:10 Like, I am not so hung up on that. I'm an adult. Like, I feel like if I was in that place, I wouldn't want that to be the story of my struggles. Yeah. Only if I was like, if I felt good about myself, I'd be like, guys, it's not true. Then I would, I'm just learning how to play helps defense. Give me time. I'm fine. I'll be honest. Let me see what Max Crosby does, man. If Max Crosby can man up and still play for the Raiders and be fine, I'm going to go back to Dalton Cuner's so. Because it's kind of crazy. But he's playing worse. So it might be true. Like the real answer is probably to each of the wrong. Maybe I feel that way and maybe that's just like a thing every individual is wired differently. Maybe Dalton Connect's confidence is shocked.
Starting point is 00:18:52 And maybe it is a big deal for him personally, but it wouldn't be for Brandon Pajemski or whatever, the player could have been in his shoes. Maybe it really depends on the person. Yeah. He's not lacking confidence, I'll tell you that. That's also, that's true. But it's just, it's a tough, it's a tough situation for, for anybody to, to be in.
Starting point is 00:19:10 And I think the vibes around the Lakers as a, as a whole are really weird. Because you have, like, we've seen just small little videos of like JJ and Luca you know getting into it on the on the sidelines and then you had like the the lebron saga over over the summer and and so on a day-to-day basis i'm not sure how high the vibes are every single day and so if one i'm lacking confidence i'm not the best fit on this team right now and the work environment as a whole isn't super conducive to everybody like putting the arm around you and helping you know lift you up and i have no idea where he fits with the lakers moving forward he probably does need to be on a different team just to even have a chance.
Starting point is 00:19:55 Ultimately, he just probably might not be good enough to be in the NBA as a rotational player. That might be his lot, but I think that we're going to have to see him on another team to fully get that answer. Yeah, I agree. It's interesting you said the Lakers vibes are bad. It's so interesting, the things we overindex on. I think the vibes are actually pretty fucking good. Like, I think outside of the – you mentioned some, like, obvious real things. I think it's outweighed by the love affair that Austin Reeves, Luka,
Starting point is 00:20:21 and JJ Reddick have. Like, I think overall, they probably have pretty good vibes. And we just, like, that December stretch that now we have a report, but maybe what would have a color did a little bit for the team? What was the report?
Starting point is 00:20:31 The Lucas stuff. Yeah, which not, not whatever. Weird story has been reported on so thoroughly. Yeah. I think that probably is very meaningful there. I thought of that bad December stretch, which also Luca Donchish teams
Starting point is 00:20:40 typically have midseason. They've kind of been like, all right. I mean, they've been doing their job. They're like a clear tier two team in the Western Conference. And they've been beating the shit out like every team that they shouldn't beat the shit out of. And any team that has like a major like lip and really aren't really are like contenders
Starting point is 00:20:57 but are kind of on the line like the Knicks the other day, for example, they do their job against them. So yeah, I understand what you mean by the vibes are like bad because the whole like pairing between or the true between LeBron and Luca and Reeves isn't, you know, there's a big ass elephant in the room and no one wants to fully address it just yet. I think like your fan vibes are bad. I don't think they keep a fuck about that. I mean, obviously, teams hear the fan chatter, but I don't think they're in the locker room, like, damn, you've got to figure out this LeBron thing. I'm upset about it.
Starting point is 00:21:26 I think they're probably all right. No, but I think for the Lakers, and like their vibes also different than everybody else's because you will get to a point where, and we'll see how this playoff run goes, you're going to be the three or the four seat. You may move anywhere up and down the standings, right? Anywhere from three to six,
Starting point is 00:21:47 seven if things go back. You got bounced in the first round in five games last year. It was not a successful playoff run. And now you're going to come back into this year where you've had a full season of a team that's built a little bit more, that's just slightly more built out than what it was last year.
Starting point is 00:22:08 If you go into the first round again and you get bounced out in five, six games, now we're looking at this. We've had a year and a half of Nuka, we've had two playoff series. We haven't won anything. LeBron, this whole situation, I think there's,
Starting point is 00:22:22 I think what you said is probably more true in turn of. There's, there's a lot of elephants in the room, more so than the vibes is just bad. Who has a Los Angeles clippers last team of this division? That's me. What is their biggest regret at the last 12 months? Clearly signing Chris Paul.
Starting point is 00:22:40 Yes. It's clearly signing Chris Paul. Obviously, the Bradley Biel signing didn't work out. That's fine. He's not a team. legend. And he wasn't dismissed. He wasn't fired. Yeah. Yeah. So I signing, signing Chris Paul, if, if Chris Paul went to any other team and was playing 12 minutes a night and that was his farewell tour and that's how he ended his career, everybody would have been like, all right,
Starting point is 00:23:02 cool. And you can still have some type of good relationship at least over the next five years as he goes into the Hall of Fame. You'd be fine with, with the state of Clippers and Chris Paul. now you have successfully reunited Chris Paul DeAndre Jordan, Blake Griffin all with their hatred for the Clippers and you have embarrassed the team legend you've embarrassed somebody that over the last 20 years is one of the two to three is the most popular figure in your in your teams on the court
Starting point is 00:23:31 so they have their own arena now at some point they're going to start wanting to do statues would Chris Paul for no they're going to be Jersey retirement yeah whatever whatever both but like whether or not you think he's let's say they think that he's worthy of a statue. We don't even get the conversation if he is or not.
Starting point is 00:23:46 Can you still give it to him after this? You should. Time's got to heal. You better heal that relationship at some point because today you can't. I don't know if Chris Ball necessarily need the statue for the clip. Whatever, then Jersey retirement, like I said.
Starting point is 00:23:58 Yeah. They're just one of the teams that just doesn't have the history to show for it. It's fine. Like, do the kings have a statue? No. Do they fucking need one? No.
Starting point is 00:24:06 Okay. No. But there's other teams. Like, I think the Clippers are the only team in the league that have no Jersey retirement. Yeah. So let's say that's not statute, because let's say that's reserved for the pinnacle legends or whatever.
Starting point is 00:24:17 Jersey retirement. Can you currently assume you a bit of retire his jersey and have that relationship? Not in the next, not in the next two years, not in the next three years. And I think prior to this year, the day Chris Paul retired, the following season,
Starting point is 00:24:31 his jersey probably would have been retired into a dough. And now you have to wait and now you have to do active work. That sucks. To, you know, to revive that, that relationship. So that's probably the biggest thing. And they've been better without him there.
Starting point is 00:24:45 So it's like, we didn't even have to go through this initial stretch. Obviously, it's not all 100% on Chris Paul why they were bad. But I fuck that. Let's call it his fault. All right, fine. They were bad because of Chris Paul. And then as soon as they got him out the pain. Sometimes these old motherfuckers kill the vibes.
Starting point is 00:25:00 Now they are, they're over 500 now with the window over the wolves last night. So I think signing Chris Paul as a whole was just a big miss for them. Tough. Also, not paying the hush money to Populatory to keep this sort of. It's probably a big, a big regret. Okay. Next division, let's do the central division. We always do them last.
Starting point is 00:25:20 Let's jump into that. Chicago Bulls. Everything is obviously regret. Your entire existence is regret. Every decision you made leading up to this point, aside from drafting Madas Buzellas, has been regrettable. True.
Starting point is 00:25:31 I'm going to say the biggest regret is drafting Noah Asengay over Derek Queen. And you may say it's too early to write off Noah Asengay. He barely played, got hurt. Correct. He might be good. We will see. But leading up to the draft, everybody was sure that Derek Queen was on go to the Bulls.
Starting point is 00:25:45 There was so much smoke in the air that Derek Queen was going to be a member of the Bulls. That felt like a shoe in. And they could have had him if they wanted him, but they passed up on him and he was taken in the very next pick. I can't imagine they feel good about that. Seeing what Derek Queen has done this year, obviously hit a rookie wall to be expected,
Starting point is 00:26:01 but I think what we've seen from him in Flash is he will clearly be a very good player to some degree. Yeah. Yeah, that's very fair to say. I think if I was to pick, probably actively still having Billy Donovan as your head coach bro besides Steve
Starting point is 00:26:16 Kerr and obviously Eric Spolter he's like the longest 10 year coach in the guy. They love him. He's like a team legend. He loves him. He's like a legend for what? What did he do for the city of Chicago? What is wrong with these people, man? He's accomplished the goal of staying mediocre every time. Yo! Actually, you know what? It's kind of remarkable to be a coach and to have
Starting point is 00:26:32 such a bad roster every year and keep them 500 and keep them exactly where they want to be. He's not the problem. He's clearly not the problem. He's a good players. I'm sure he'd be a fine coach. I think he's, I only say he's a part of the problem because of the Myers-Bazzo situation. It's not a bad situation happened over there. He's grown and developed
Starting point is 00:26:48 but not as fast as I would like it to be. And there's two things to be true. Once I think Modis has obviously a couple of kings here and there within his game, but just last game that he had, bro, we put up like what? He was insane. He put up 41 points, bro. Was this the night band did what he did too? Yes, he was kind of crazy. So I know
Starting point is 00:27:06 I talked about it at all. But he put a fucking 41 and I think that seeing him just like constantly not prioritized as a pinnacle of the offense and the franchise really has a lot to do a billion dollars. Sure, sure. He has a approach to player development that I would like to see otherwise be changed
Starting point is 00:27:22 because I like Monisuzzi. But you know, that's subjective. He knows more than me about player development. I can at least understand it. I get where he's coming from with building the off-ball skills and like making him grow into that. He's still so young that like it's fine. I think they have the scars of Patrick Williams not working out in that way. So they're like, fuck, he's going to ruin another
Starting point is 00:27:38 wing. Modus Fazzeles is not Patrick Williams like you just said. He can drop 40 even in that role. So I'll give him a pass for that and wait until next year. It's clear. It's clear as day to me. They should have picked Eric Queen. Yeah, they have to start getting some some high-end talent. Yeah. Because now, especially with the singe, if he doesn't, if he doesn't develop and he doesn't give flashes, now you put the bulls in a situation where they feel that they have to, in tearing their team down, they have to now go be last chance you. They have to go and give it. They have to go and give everybody an opportunity of a lot of, a lot of players who weren't good fits elsewhere
Starting point is 00:28:13 are trying to revive their, their career. And we're going to end up in another situation where you're in the playing, you're the nine seed, you're the 10th seed, and nothing ultimately is, is going to happen.
Starting point is 00:28:27 They are only going to change them. Because they're not going out. Free agents right now are not clamoring to come to Chicago. Like nobody's trying to be the savior of the Bulls. They're going to have. have to be forced into being good. And the only way that they do that is by, is by Jackson somebody.
Starting point is 00:28:46 Also, that was a loud crack. You heard that? Of course. That was mad crisp. Holy shit. That can't be thirsty? No. What flavor is that? Peach five. Is that you? I mean, it's not my favorite one, but it's all they had that day.
Starting point is 00:28:59 Normally, if I'm drinking Celsius, I'm drinking orange. How many sauces you drink a day? I know the answer. I just want to out you. I'm not going to lie. He does have a We've been talking about this for three years. Put it down. About two a day.
Starting point is 00:29:15 I don't blame you though. Then we record for three hours. Then I got to edit. Then I go to the gym. Conservative too. I'm talking about the powder ones too. Yeah, I normally do the powder ones. Yeah, he'd be on that.
Starting point is 00:29:26 I mean, it's like, you work out. I put in a water bottle. I know, every form. Yeah. I got the cans. I got the powder. Did you introduce me to the non-fiz one too? I'm like, oh, you nasty?
Starting point is 00:29:35 I know the whole collection of flavors. Yeah. I'm like, yo. Put me on, though. She's giving him hell a pre-promo. Thanks. Turn the camera.
Starting point is 00:29:45 Face it this way? Yeah, no pre-promo. I would hate if my favorite energy and gave us a real promo, though. Don't send this to Celsius. Don't put their logo real big on the wall back here. I would hate if that fridge over there was full or free Celsius, so I had to stop buying two a day.
Starting point is 00:29:58 That would be horrible. Yuck! Can you imagine the horror? Oh, man, the life you live. Who's next in the Central Division? I'll go. Milwaukee Bucks. How do you pinpoint this
Starting point is 00:30:11 being where they're at now with the Yonis thing? What's the one thing that they should regret? How do you get here? So I didn't... No, man. I got some words for them.
Starting point is 00:30:20 Have you seen Miles Turner over the last 10 games, right? Whatever you were going to pick, I hope it was that because if not, fuck that. Miles Turner contract
Starting point is 00:30:28 and the waving and stretching a Damian Lillard effectively making Miles Turner get like superstar money when you account for that danglyly money? It'd pay like 50, 60 a year, Basically, bro, what does he do?
Starting point is 00:30:39 It is crazy how much he has become a low activity, floater big once he left the Pacers. Yo, the way, oh my God. They were commandeering your team. Huh? We're commandeering your team. That's why. He's just so irritating to watch.
Starting point is 00:30:53 I wrote down trading for Kaakuzma. Because of our KK points. Who cares about Cooszs? Yeah, Gaucusa can stay. Miles Turner is a blight. The only reason why was because I feel like the Kuzma trade was the start of, oh, you guys are really desperate. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:07 Like you guys, you guys are obviously desperate to keep. Oh, he did Chris Middleton for him. To keep Janice and you traded a franchise legend to go get Cala Kusma because you wanted to make this run. It's like, oh, wow, you guys are really scared that you're going to lose them. And then now lead you down a path of, again, signing Turner, waving and stretching dame, doing all these other things and being very, very sporadic in your movements. And it's so interesting because when they got Miles Turner, we said, okay, another stretch bigness to Janus. the heir apparent to Brooke Lopez, I understand wanting him. I can acknowledge that if the goal
Starting point is 00:31:41 here is to keep yon is happy and appease him and do whatever you possibly can in your power to put talented players around him to keep him, I can respect that. And Miles Turner is a respectable choice for that. But even in the moment, when it happened to a free agency and we reacted, we all acknowledged, or at least I did, I don't remember what y'all's opinion was, that it's an assinine to wave and stretch to Damien Lurie to get there, that while I understand it's a means to an end you have to do, it's crazy finances that. to have $20 million a year just sitting there
Starting point is 00:32:07 knocked off the top of your cap. That's crazy and has such a downside if Miles 100 doesn't work out. I think we're there. I think it hasn't worked out and we're seeing the worst case scenario. The last game that he played
Starting point is 00:32:18 was against the Phoenix Suns. He had a good game. Okay, cool. Before that, bro, he had a three-point game and it had zero rebounds. Before that, eight points, three rebounds.
Starting point is 00:32:28 Before that, eight points, three rebounds. Before that, five points and four rebounds. Shit changes real fast when Tyree Salimor isn't there to spoon feed you? Nothing makes me. more upset than centers getting less than five rebounds again. That's that's well. And the biggest thing with Miles Turner is, yes, we saw the vision because that's all it was.
Starting point is 00:32:47 Yes, yes. It was just the vision. It was the idea. We like the idea of Miles Turner. However, when you get consistent Miles Turner minutes on the floor, then you get to the point of every single year and you get to a point where you start realizing, oh, I understand why the Pacers had them in trade talks for six years in a row. because we're not getting everything that we are.
Starting point is 00:33:08 And the one time that he put everything together, finally, with the best that Tyrese Halliborne has ever played in the playoffs and through the rest of that season, they get to the finals. But you are not getting best case scenario on Miles Turner every single time. And to be fair.
Starting point is 00:33:22 And that's why we're not like in love with this right now. To be fair, Yon has been hurt. I'm sure Miles Turner is clearly a player that needs to play next to a star. He needs to have like no burden on him. He needs to be a complimentary role player, like ideally fourth or fifth option that just helps.
Starting point is 00:33:35 No burden is funny. He has to have no responsibility. He has to have a soft life. He's the only player we talk about like that. He got to make sure he's mad, comfortable, mad reassured. But it's fact. If he had no responsibility and can be a guy that stretches the floor and plays defense and just like it's comfortable not touching the ball and doing the little things,
Starting point is 00:34:01 that's important. What do you say? Nothing. What do you say? Say it again. Play with Legos. It's important to have that guy. Now, it's unfortunate to pay that guy effectively $40 million a year
Starting point is 00:34:11 when that should be a league minimum type of role. But here we are. And maybe he'd look better, but wouldn't be so upset if Yonis was healthy all year and they were a respectable team. But you don't get the best case scenario. And if you're paying a guy $40 million, you would like for him to provide value with or without your best player. Who's next in Central Division?
Starting point is 00:34:27 Before we insult my turn or more. I got the Detroit Pistons. And, okay, you know, the Pissons, they came out, surprise everyone. They're the number one seat by. At one point it was a wide margin. Now they're kind of slumping because of injuries to Asar and then Cades, he missed the game as well.
Starting point is 00:34:42 But overall, I think I feel pretty good about this scene. But the one move that they made, really, it's not even a move. It's a non-move that they didn't make, which was like finding another shooter, finding another creator on ball to help out with Cade Cunningham. They decided to go pretty much like all in on Dennis Jenkins. And that forced them to move off of Jaden Ivy, who just didn't pan out in. any right of regard, which is fine.
Starting point is 00:35:05 That happens all the time in the NBA. Can't blame him for that. Can't blame him for seeing what Dennis Chicken was doing and how productive he was on and off ball, off ball, how additive he was to this team. That's fine, but he completely disappeared since he got that contract. Now, the one acquisition that they did make was trading for Kevin Hurder, which is, like, great, but bro don't get no burn at all. So that, what's irritating and what's the biggest regret for them in this singular year,
Starting point is 00:35:32 specifically is what happened in the trade deadline doing nothing that is the damn shame because you see a lot of contenders like guys like okay see they just won a championship bro they double down on what they on what they needed to do and they traded a first round pick which is mad rare in getting
Starting point is 00:35:48 Jared McCain we saw the Timbles go ahead they lost to kill Alexander Walker they traded for Ayudu Dissu someone who's added to their roster we see all these championship contenders doing something like the fucking boss itself they added Nicole Wuzzo with Wuzovitch it didn't work out but Yo, they tried at the end of the day.
Starting point is 00:36:04 The person said, nah, I'm good. This is a tough one because they don't regret it yet, but we all see they're riding on the wall. We all see that we've been saying it for a year and a half, that they're getting more and more respectable as time goes on, you know, talking about last year. Make a move. Let's go on and accelerate that because we see a clear deficiency on the roster.
Starting point is 00:36:21 It's different for a team like the Thunder who are, you know, thinking back to maybe two years ago, rather well-rounded. You know, you can always improve, but like there's no glaring flaw to the degree that the lack of creation and jump shooting is clear for the pistons. So I never thought it was like some heinous idea
Starting point is 00:36:36 to ask them to accelerate their timeline because to do that, it's just addressing a need that's present and for the future. And again, we talked about it at length of the deadline. I respect them, want to go on in and say we're good. Let's not mess with a good thing. There's a reason everybody kind of assumes they're not going to be able to beat the Celtics or whatever
Starting point is 00:36:53 because it's a clear need that we all know translates to the playoffs. And we saw it last year in the playoffs and that element of their game isn't any better. they have to get to minimum the conference finals this year to be able to like to stand on on the non moves that that they make and they can't do that they very much can it's open it's just you'd like to feel more confident in a young sending one seed you'd like to not have that hanging over your head you'd like for them to have gotten their alks caruso and heartenstein so we can say exactly
Starting point is 00:37:19 they're materially different from last year they're going to be better and that's what i'm specifically asking for i like i don't need them to go out and train for some of laramark and that would be nice that was mad popular we talked about the large marketing we talked about them getting mpj we talked about him getting chay murphy but yo what are like the minor moves of guys who can make like a major impact like that and all they had for you was kevin herder which is kevin herder is not a bad player obviously but it's just kevin herder at the end of the day yeah oh speaking of kevin herder made me think about you know who's been like incredible who luke canard you know how funny that is that you that obviously every fan base hates luke canard and they have him because
Starting point is 00:37:52 a theoretical shooter yeah he's been a demon for the lakers dude he moves the ball well you know it's not to get to the paint. He's just so small. Defensively, but he tries. And you know how he refuses to shoot contested threes? And it's annoying because he makes him less lethal of a shooter as the numbers would indicate. And you get nonstop wide open threes next to Austin Reese and Luca. And he hits them, bitches at 45%. Side note, my white shooter is better than their white shooter.
Starting point is 00:38:14 You're irritating. Yeah, he couldn't do this with Tray Young. He's a phone. He wasn't there. Exactly. He wasn't there. Who has Indiana Pacers? That's not me.
Starting point is 00:38:24 do I think I have the Pacers yes I do and the biggest regret for them you guys remember was a game four no was game five of the NBA finals and Tyrese Halliburton was like severely like injured in that game but was before he tore his Achilles he had like this really bad calf strain and I remember specifically because like we were watching this together and then me and you're like bro like play next game play game six they play game six fucking one it was worth it of course and they bullied me for saying he shouldn't play. And then Isaac was like, oh, no, I don't think you should play at all. They shouldn't risk it at all.
Starting point is 00:38:59 He still believe me. I'm like, bro, fuck that. What do you mean? It's the NBA finals. Who gives it to damn? Now, I'm not going to, they did go to game seven. They did have a chance for like two minutes or three minutes that he did play to win because it was a real back and forth.
Starting point is 00:39:12 But now, obviously, looking back at it, maybe I was wrong. Maybe you were wrong. I don't know if it was worth winning an extra game or two games or potentially win the NBA finals. and jeopardizing the career potentially, because we don't know how Tyrese Hallibor will come back because he's a different level of athlete compared to someone like Tatum.
Starting point is 00:39:32 Tatum, not one of one, but he's one of them ones when it comes to physicality. Tyreys Halliborne, he's not, like, athletic, or he's not explosive in the way that we think of what explosiveness means in the NBA. Yeah, he can't lose athleticism and still be good. He needs all the athleticism as you got. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:39:46 So if Tyreys Halberin comes back a completely different player, I will hate the rest of my life. because I sat here talking about how, wow, man, he should have played. He should have played. And it's not worth it if you are just like more than the rest of your career. Yeah. And this is obviously a hindsight thing, right? Like, you can't know someone's going to fear their Achilles.
Starting point is 00:40:05 Of course you do. Of course you do. I'm sure, you know, I'm sure Tyreez Hallamore disagrees. I'm sure if you ask him, he'll be like, I would do it again with a chance to win a championship. And good for him. That's a good athletic mindset, I guess. But like you said, looking back in hindsight, talking about regrets, clearly not worth it. If you know, it resulted in an Achilles tear.
Starting point is 00:40:22 But in the moment, it's a lot of it. But in the most of it. moments, you know, it's hard to make an athlete think otherwise. So this is purely a hindsight thing and not a, they should have done different realistically. Because like if they, if they, if they, if they go and they play and I can't remember, they were, they were down three to, right? I'm sure. So yes. Yeah. Yeah. They're, they're down. They're down three, two. If he, if he doesn't play these last two games or these like two, two and a half games and they lose in six, and he feels like he could have played,
Starting point is 00:40:54 that probably also would have been a regret for Tyrese in that way for the rest of his life. That's a better regret to have them. That's a much better regret to have. You're right? Because his Achilles would be intact and his career would be fine. That's a much better thing to live with
Starting point is 00:41:07 and sucks to say, maybe I would have won if I was able to play through that injury and stay healthy. Unfortunately, that happens to people all the time. We don't look at Chris Paul and, I mean, we do talk about 2018 and maybe we could want a championship with not for his injury,
Starting point is 00:41:19 but it's not something that haunts you in the same way that Achilles tear does. if you mentally I feel like no he would suck you're right it would suck you're right sure it's not a good option I'm not saying it's like sunshine and rainbows he'll get over it he'll never get over it but his Achilles tendon would be intact and that would be a better outcome for him long term he would choose a slight regret if you if you if you given truth serum had a rational non-athlete mind he would choose a little regret over no Achilles tendon may maybe but like I
Starting point is 00:41:48 also think like if you if you're like working your whole life to get to this point and like you want to win a championship. Yeah. And we say all the time, like, don't get comfortable, especially in today's NBA, do not get comfortable. Do not assume that you can get back to the finals, that you can make these runs. And especially with the run that they had,
Starting point is 00:42:04 being one of the most improbable runs of all time, I can definitely understand being like, I have to take every opportunity that I can. For sure. And so like I, and so that's what I'm saying. I think that the regret of not even trying, I think that might be a little.
Starting point is 00:42:22 little bit worse than actually trying to do to do the thing. Because obviously it's a it's a risk and we are speaking in hindsight and he did tear his his Achilles. There's another world where this ends up in the Aaron Gordon fashion where Aaron Gordon played Game 7 with his hamstring off the bone. And they were like, yo, you really could like mess up your hamstring in the way that you're playing to hurt your career moving forward. And he ended up not re-endering. his hamstring. And there's a, there's a world where Tyreys Haddonburton plays game seven and his Achilles does not, does not tear. Sure. But do you hear that logic, though, that like, there's a world in which you take a horrible risk for your long-term health and you just get lucky? Like,
Starting point is 00:43:05 that's not exactly a good precedent. Because I am 48 minutes away from the, from the one goal that I've had for like my entire life. And no one's arguing that we don't understand the athlete perspective to want to play. No one's saying that. Like you said, it's impossible for a coach really to sit him down and be like you're not going to play. For everything you're outlining, he's not going for that. Realistically, doesn't change the fact that looking back now,
Starting point is 00:43:28 you should probably, we should probably say that, okay, maybe you shouldn't have played. Yeah, at the end of the hindsight, always wins. And for the Pacers, like specifically,
Starting point is 00:43:36 you just got to protect your best ass at the moment of the time they didn't. Especially because it's not, it wasn't a freak injury. It's a re-aggravation of an injury that we now have a pattern of capturing leading to Achilles tendons.
Starting point is 00:43:45 And maybe he's just a, a building block in helping us know that that's a pattern. And maybe he was unnecessary unfortunate event to happen for future teams to know not to do that. Because I guarantee you that happens again. After that moment, if Kate Cunningham gets the game five of the finals and he has a severe cap strain, I highly doubt they're going to play him through that, knowing that could be a
Starting point is 00:44:03 Tyree's Aliburant situation. It's rap. I think from organizational perspective, I definitely hear you. Yeah. But from a player perspective, I'm leaning towards Donovan side of like, like, he's playing. And then this one, you're right. That's exactly what I mean. Is it the Pacers should feel a little regret, but Tyrese is going to do that 10 times over
Starting point is 00:44:18 because he's the player. Yeah. Athlete mindset is not rational. Yeah. Cleveland Cavaliers. On one hand, you could say they should have trade Darius Garland earlier
Starting point is 00:44:29 when he like pseudo-requested a trade via Rich Paul a couple summers ago. They were basically like, I don't think we can coexist with Donovan Mitchell, get me out of here, and they were like, go to work.
Starting point is 00:44:39 And then they had a 64 win season. So I guess I shouldn't say it's a big regret. They were in position last year that they very well could have been in the finals if health worked their way a little bit better.
Starting point is 00:44:47 So I suppose it's not a regret that they gave it more go, that go went well. So if we're not doing that, trading for DeAndre Hunter last year instead of a real wing defender, that should be a regret. They traded for him thinking he's a theoretical big wing that can check a Kauai type of player. He cannot. He is a bad defender.
Starting point is 00:45:02 They later on traded him for Keon Ellis and Dennis Ruter, which ended up being a decent pivot, I guess last year's playoff chances would have been a lot better if they had a real defender at 6'9 and not Deandre Hunter. Yeah, he's just 6'9 and above. But like, but the, the, the, the, the, I don't know. idea of him of like this swing stopper and even whenever they traded for him a lot the sentiment was well he's honestly not even like a great defender yeah but he's big exactly and he can be in the way and so the cabs knew and everybody knew whenever they traded for for deandra hunter that they weren't
Starting point is 00:45:37 getting a lockdown win and that they weren't getting getting somebody who can swing the pendulum on on either side in turn them being this crazy crazy dead eye three point shooter or being this locked down defender. And so you, you traded for somebody in the middle and you gave up some assets. And yeah, you probably shouldn't have did that. Yeah. And, you know, it's only three second round picks. It's not like they mortgage their future.
Starting point is 00:45:57 But that was the one move that couldn't made at the time. And offensively, there was some benefits to it. It wasn't like it was 100% zero. But looking back in terms of regrets, they'd have been better off with a less talented player, that was just better defensively. Yeah. I agree. I think if I was to pick for them, though, I probably would have, like, led to them.
Starting point is 00:46:14 Not this because DeAndi Hunter was in the running for six men of the year. he was shooting outrageous from three was one of them hot years and this year he was he's traded for a reason again he's on the king's for a reason you know but i think if i would probably lead towards them pivoting away from some like ty jerome or not even like trying to get tied jerome it was made out that he was going to get like a massive bag he didn't because of the playoff performance that he had he's got like a $20 million contract over like three years or something like that was like nine million or something like that and i think that move right there probably i'll probably think about a little bit more long term because the 100
Starting point is 00:46:48 thing is more swing and miss. You could have had Tidron on your roster. Not really. They were a secretarine team. That is true. They would have dumb people to keep Tad Jerome. It's at least understandable that they couldn't afford him. Which low key, if you know that Darius Garland once again was hurt in the playoffs and you know that you do need a steady backup guard.
Starting point is 00:47:06 That might be a little bit too much. Maybe. You had to make a lot happen. Yeah. I know the point. It is. We've gone through a lot of of, if he was like every single version of this team has had a different version of a three we're trying to make the perfect lineup forget it just put somebody in a jersey three i know that my best that one of my best players one of my best creators is not always going to be here you should probably have somebody who has
Starting point is 00:47:30 the ability to do that so i think if you were trying to and like they they also kind of admitted that that that's why they went out and got lonso because they thought that he could bring a little bit more of that playmaking and that's what it's to another great and and yeah that's just a hundred percent didn't work out. Yeah. I find that to be more of a miss. That's unfortunate. I think they had to lose Tid Jerome
Starting point is 00:47:50 and they didn't have a lot of good options. Yeah, non-Lonzo was a better option in terms of finding a better replacement. But I don't think they really could have kept Tid Jerome without making like major concessions their lineup. Yeah. And moving heaven and earth for Tide Jerome
Starting point is 00:48:03 just sounds like nasty word. Yeah, it turns out that probably would have been like helpful because they definitely needed that. But, you know, so be it. That's a super hindsight thing to me. I forget Lanzo got trained to the Utah Jazz
Starting point is 00:48:14 and they cut him immediately. Healy. That's so crazy. Are you ever going to see him like playing? Probably not. Probably not. Unfortunately. Damn. Atlantic Division. Boston Celtics. I have basically nothing in terms of regrets. I don't know what you could possibly regret for this team.
Starting point is 00:48:27 They won a championship. Came back to the next year. We're very good. Injuries and underperformance in a specific playoff series. They didn't win. They immediately pivot in a smart way. Get rid of their big contracts. Do a reloading phase. Getting selling off on your starters at the perfect time. And then have since
Starting point is 00:48:43 developed like four new young rotation players. to replace them. It's kind of fucking sunshine and rainbows for the Celtics right now. Not everything is a regret for every team. Beasol, is there anything small you can nitpick that you feel like this regret? Yeah, I don't think it's a regret just yet. And I was high on the trade when it happened. But the Vucevic Simon's trade, I feel like with how Simons was playing with us,
Starting point is 00:49:05 like the month or two before the trade, he was playing really well. Also, Vucevich is already out for a month. And also with the way he's been playing, a lot of Celtics fans feel as if, like, Luke Garza could do just what Vucevich already does. So it's like, we could have kept Luke. Luke Garza was already on the team. Anthony Simons was doing just fine. You know, we'll see in the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:49:25 That's the only nitpick out. Yeah, surprise, surprise. Vosovic doesn't feel like a great addition. When the trade happened, we were like, Rodney's eye was like, I think Lucevich sucks, but I also trust Brett Stevens implicitly. So I guess I'll give him a chance. I can understand if the result
Starting point is 00:49:40 leans towards the first thing I said rather than the second one. Yeah. It won't be surprising. it's okay who has the brooklyn nets uh i got the brooklyn nets and my number one regret for them is keeping someone like michael porter junior and also you get loop in like claxon into this as well clison should have been traded like for the long guess time because players like him in general they're so valuable but they're not that valuable when you have nothing going on in your team no like main creators or anything like that at all and mpj valuable as well but
Starting point is 00:50:13 when it comes to just building your organization and all that and like actually making progress for as a team he's just not that for you just yet and they could have got back a massive bag for maybe the maybe the market just wasn't robust for him we don't know that because we're not in front offices but i feel like at the end of the day i would feel good having a pick maybe to end like two second round picks better i would feel better with having that than having mpgian on the team just you know getting up shots yeah i'm out there should assault the veterans potentially and shouldn't draft a Ben Serif when you draft your deck two and a half other point guards. Honestly, that probably
Starting point is 00:50:46 was a better pick because they have so, they pick, we watch them pick like four or five guards in the NBA draft. I think Agor Demon is going to be a cool playmaking wing that can shoot the ball. He'll probably be a good player. That's going to be at least a productive player taken. I think Nolan Treyor is probably going to be much more
Starting point is 00:51:02 productive than Ben Serif. Shout out Danny Wolf. Obviously it's hard to make it with that player archetype, but if he's good and can hold it defensively, a skill player, you can sort of understand all of them. Then you get to Ben Seraph and you're like, wow, that makes no sense. That makes me feel so much worse about the whole draft class. Ridiculous pick.
Starting point is 00:51:19 Yeah. New York, next. That's me. Firing Tibbs and not having a plan in place. Ah, the process was bad. The process was bad. Their plan, I was up here saying, you have to fire Tibbs. Like during that playoff run, during the Eastern Conference finals, I understood it.
Starting point is 00:51:39 That's not the issue. Their plan, as soon as they fire tips. was let's go ask teams with head coaches already. We're not going to ask people who have been looking for jobs. They asked five teams for permission to interview their head coaches. That's so dumb. They went out and were like, okay, who has a contract? Yes, I will ask you.
Starting point is 00:52:00 And then they got denied five times. Mike Brown literally was like the seventh option. And I think we'll see how this year ends up. I really do not care to talk about it today. But the process in getting Mike Brown was super flawed. And I wish that if you knew that because there was already tension and things going on in which like you could tell that that Tim's wasn't going to be the coach long term. If you knew that in February, March, you should probably start thinking about guys that you want to go after that are not already currently head coaches and teams that, to acquire them to be your head coach,
Starting point is 00:52:43 you're going to have to ask somebody for permission and jump through a whole bunch of hoops and potentially provide compensation to get, like if they did, if they did get permission to interview Jason Kidd and he did want to coach the Knicks and all that stuff happens, cool, you still have to give up something so that Dallas feels okay with the situation.
Starting point is 00:53:04 Either way, they were not prepared going into the summer to, to find an actual head coach and the process in getting black brown was hard. They could have hired Jordan a lot if they were actually doing a proper search
Starting point is 00:53:18 and looking for the next upcoming guys and not doing what the Lakers do and go look for big names. That's it. Asking can we hire Jason Kidd is the ultimate like who the fuck do you think you are right now? Like who the fuck did you wake up thinking you are thinking you can go coach a coach just because
Starting point is 00:53:32 that's a different level of like delusing. I know it's arrogance. What the hell? Philadelphia 76ers. That's also me. What should they regret right now? Right now, it's very clear trading Jeremy King. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:53:43 Immediate regret. Absolutely, you're right. Immediate. Regretted it 10 minutes later. But they sold high. Yeah, great. Genius move, Darryl Morey. Yeah, right now, they're 35 and 30.
Starting point is 00:53:54 They're in the eight seed right now. Tyrese Maxie is hurt. Joel Embeddee is in and out, always. Yep. I saw a conversation about Darry. He's amazing at drafting right now. He's been pretty dog shit at all the other elements of being a GM outside of drafting.
Starting point is 00:54:10 handling free agents, trades, obviously the personnel relationship side after the James Harden and stuff. Did he admit to using Chad GPT to like help run, make his decisions? Was that him? I don't remember your reference, but probably. I bet it's him. Probably. It is believable. It sounds like it does sound like him. Yeah, he's a forward thinking guy. I'm sure he's like, how do I leverage AI to make my job better? Whatever. I hate that word. How do I leverage leverage? How do I leverage? How do leverage AI? Yeah. He should clearly be like president of basketball operations with somebody else being GM at this point. Yep, he admitted that he
Starting point is 00:54:42 uses Chad DPP for advice of making team decisions. That was just 12 months ago. So, like, should I trade Jared McCain? Yes. Is Jeremy Kane worth the first round pick? What'd you think, Chad? He probably does. The sixes right now, like, they are in a very,
Starting point is 00:55:00 very weird spot where they are, who is this? They are two and a half, they're two games up on, on Charlotte for the 10 spot. They're not going to fall out of the plane because the bucks suck and the bucks are five and a half games behind the 10 spots so like that's not that's not gonna happen but you probably could use a little bit more um creation a little bit more on ball creation and playmaking and sunshine and jeremy he could always use sunshine and jeremy
Starting point is 00:55:28 and jeremy can just provides a lot of that and so whenever you have all all of these guards paul george is still suspended right now like a lot of stuff is going on oh other regret paul george should sign paul george clearly oh yeah yeah for sure. Yeah. I understandable miss, I suppose, but if you could redo it, you would not sign Paul George. Toronto Raptors, last team. I got them. And, bro, I have like, Raptors fans are in a complete frenzy right now. It's hilarious. Yo, they're so mid right now. It's crazy. Yeah, they're beyond mid. It's, they're like, not even beyond me. They're just like the perfect mid. You know, Scotty Barnes forgot how to play basketball. Since, yeah, since the All-Star Racing. He is so cold. It's crazy. He looks like he does not know how to score basketball. He's never known in his life. And Brandon Ingram was like, minus a thousand in the last
Starting point is 00:56:11 17 games. They're losing every minute he plays by wide margin. All the rest of their starters are in the positive. Renan Ingram's minus 6,000. Yeah, we know what type of player he is, man. Brandon Ingram just feels like he's Gen Z. DeMardo Rosen. Do a little bit of
Starting point is 00:56:27 like he could shoot. Disrespectful with the Prime Damar. But to your point, yes. They're just going through a rough stretch where you're getting the DeMard de Rosen era of Ingram. You're getting the weaknesses are hiding the strengths instead of vice versa. And Scottie can't shoot can't score again is looking rough he's prone to go through these stretches obviously you're getting the worst case scenario right now yacoperto is back he sucks you're you're getting the
Starting point is 00:56:48 worst case scenario right now yeah there's like so many directions to point to but then also just like bro it's almost too many too many directions what's the obvious one okay yacobro probably shouldn't have gotten that contract that would have helped them not bleed so badly into the situation yeah and they could have been able to like pivot oh no actually we can go a little bit picture. Yes, they shouldn't have signed Yaku Pro that contract. They shouldn't have traded Siakum and Ogen, Anobi, and not rebuild. They should have taken their time a little more. They should have done a more proper rebuild. It netted out on decent product. We're judging them at their worst. Teams go through slums all the time. They'll probably bounce back at some
Starting point is 00:57:19 point towards the end of the season. So it's not the big deal. Yeah, I'm starting to notice that when it comes to like what makes teams mid sometimes, they force become mid and they just try too hard. And of course, I think there's value to like being a good, decent basketball team winning games. But I think there's way more by the end of the day when it comes to doing things the right way
Starting point is 00:57:38 and letting the players fall into your hands rather than forcing your way out of being just ass. Yep, if you remember, they started rebuilding and immediately traded for Yaka Purtle and it was like, I mean he's good but like what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:57:48 Like why are you, what the hell? What are you doing right now? And he extended him. It wasn't terrible in the moment but now he's kind of washed dealing with the injuries. Same thing with the Ingram trade.
Starting point is 00:57:55 I like to fit with making Scottie Barnes better but why are you in a position right now to trade for an extend Brandon Ingram? I don't know, but maybe it'll work out at times it does,
Starting point is 00:58:03 but overall the process has led to every decision they make having a little bit of strange I had to sell myself on this and hope it works out. Yeah, yeah. I would like to be just moved by a move that the Rockets and Raptors do
Starting point is 00:58:15 and not have to convince myself they're smart. You won't be. Probably not. And that's their lot in life. Next division, Southwest Division. I have Memphis Grizzlies. This one's kind of hard because the era died this year
Starting point is 00:58:27 and it was because of decisions made three, four years ago that all kind of culminated. So in the past year, there's not really anything they did wrong, per se. I think unless you want to have an issue with the Taylor Jenkins firing, that led to the John Moran thing falling apart, but he was already in the decline in terms of his standing with the team. So I'm not necessarily like they got to have kept Taylor Jenkins.
Starting point is 00:58:47 I don't think there was anything wrong with trading Desmond Bain, with trading Jared Jackson. They tried to trade John Morant. Nobody wants them. Maybe the answer is here you should have traded John Morant sooner when somebody wanted him, but I don't know when that moment would have been. their draft picks have been good so I don't think there's anything we can pinpoint
Starting point is 00:59:04 so I'll just say we had to talk about the overarching thing and that was the summer in which they let Dylan Brooks walk and gave all the money to Marcus Mart and trade for him that didn't work out that kind of started the snowball effect that led to the avalanche that was the demise of this Jaron Jackson John Morant era so
Starting point is 00:59:20 do you do you not think because I think this last summer was kind of regretful for them so they signed Ty Jerome and drafted Cedric Coward what part you fired Taylor Jenkins and oh you're right my bad yeah yeah you fire you fire you fire Taylor Jenkins he doesn't all the guys on on on the staff those were organizational hires right those weren't Taylor Jenkins guys and so you're running this offense that that job doesn't
Starting point is 00:59:49 doesn't like and then you promote one of the guys that is that is committed to the offense that you got I forgot I forgot you should have picked one no no you should have done a search you You're right. It's the same thing as the Knicks. I forgot they did that shit. If you want to land on Isola being the hired, cool. They hired him officially before the finals was over, I think, before the window opened up to interview people. They promoted him immediately because like you said, he was kind of handpicked to be on the staff and they kept him for a reason. Like, you are so right.
Starting point is 01:00:19 They did a terrible job in searching for their coach. The only reason I didn't think about that is because I have no fucking clue if he's good or not with how this season went. I don't know if I should blame him for this or not. I very well might. We might look up a year from now and say that they picked the wrong guy. and that even post-jaw he sucks. Can't say it yet. But the idea of not even looking out there
Starting point is 01:00:35 and trying to see who's out there, see if I like Jordan Ott, see if I like other ex-coach that's available, that was fucking crazy. Yeah, and you do that, you do that basically because you're trying to get John Moran back on board. And now we have another season.
Starting point is 01:00:49 We're going to go into the off-season, having the same exact question that we did whenever we fired Taylor Jenkins, which is, one, do we still want John to be our franchise player? And if so, can he work with this specific coach, and does this work? And you have no idea you have taken no steps forward
Starting point is 01:01:04 in that sense. That was a misstep by the Grisland. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Dallas Mavericks. That's me. I wrote down, well, I think we got to all know.
Starting point is 01:01:17 Perhaps what's the... Elephants? Yeah. I think we all know... Address me. Okay. What the mistake was... Let's say besides,
Starting point is 01:01:25 Trin Lugon Shish, should just say, not say the obvious. What's their other mistake? I would say signing D-Lo. Oh my That's a bad science They lost nothing
Starting point is 01:01:33 But they just By a guy in the locker room We can't play Why would you bring him on? Because I Do think that it is It is wild And maybe it's more just
Starting point is 01:01:42 Unfortunate than regret And it's not like You messed up And that's why it's regretful It's just It didn't work out And it's so crazy That this team
Starting point is 01:01:52 At every turn this season Needs a point guard And like They signed DeAngela Russell because you thought that he could just be a regular NBA professional point guard. And he couldn't do it. And that would have been helpful.
Starting point is 01:02:04 You definitely needed that to hit because I was kind of hopeful on them being competent with Anthony Davis being healthy, of course, because I was like, okay, maybe Deelot will give them average starter minutes or average offensive starter minutes, I should say. He did not. And that's not me a lot. I would never believe in a guy like this offseason, Deelow plus some other guys, I'm never believing in the losers anymore. Guys who just routinely making their team worse on the court.
Starting point is 01:02:25 I'm no longer believing that they get into a better scenario that they'll just like get good. And I think that the lack of point guard, honestly, the regret is going to come later this year because, one, Khan has been fantastic and he's played a lot. I think if Cooper Flag had a fantastic, like, front-to-back rookie season, he could, I think he would be a little bit further along in the rookie of the year conversation. Because right now I think Khan has it. I think a stronger first 20 games, the vote probably would have went to Cooper. But he struggled so much because they were playing them at point guard anyways. And so you got, there's a, there's a slight word. Like, did we just call us Cooper Flagg rookie at the year?
Starting point is 01:03:03 I don't know. But I think flags, his highs are way, he peaks way higher in his rookie year than someone like Khan. I don't know about way higher, but I see, I see your point. I don't know. Cons. I don't know. I know what you mean, though.
Starting point is 01:03:16 Like, you know what it is. I don't know if it peaked higher, but we can definitely envision the things we see from them, we can envision that peak being higher. He showed more signs of a future higher peak that is very substantial, I think. Yeah. Mark Cuban went on the Adam Friedland. and he talked about his biggest regret. And that was hiring Nico Harris.
Starting point is 01:03:31 There was like six or seven of people, politicians and shit. And we were having a beer. And I got a text from our general manager. And he's like, hey, give me a call. Nico, yeah. You hired him. I hired him. Do you regret it?
Starting point is 01:03:46 Yeah, in hindsight now, it was a mistake. But whatever. But yeah, he was like, Mark call me. You know, and there was like six. That's hilarious, right? Because like, really, if we're being honest, if we're being honest here, outside of a few things,
Starting point is 01:04:00 which is like the whole, I don't know if Nico was there for the Jill and Brunson thing, but for the look of the thing, outside of that, he's been like a fine GM, bro. Outside of burning down the building,
Starting point is 01:04:10 killing my family and blowing up the scene with the- guy. Outside of dropping a nuclear warhead and everybody I know and love, he was so good. He was so good at doing the insular things, man.
Starting point is 01:04:21 Outside of vehicular homicide, awesome guy to hang with. That's not trade to Jalen Brunson. You don't think that was a problem. problem when he traded Jalen Brunson. That was a long time. Jaylon Brunson wanted to walk though. I think he wanted an opportunity.
Starting point is 01:04:33 And like, so not giving him the deal that he wanted the year prior where he said, give me 25 million a year. I'll stay. That was a mistake in hindsight. But I think when we got to free agency, Brunson was ready and the Knicks paid the shit out of him. So I give them a little bit of a pass for that outside of not paying him the year prior when they needed to have some foresight.
Starting point is 01:04:49 Yeah. I think, I think Mark Cuban's bigger regret very clearly is selling the team. That too. Well, I don't know. He's pretty ready now. Did he still report where he wants to get it back? Yeah, I understand that he's bred. That's what happens when you say your NBA team.
Starting point is 01:05:03 But at every turn, he's still wanting to be involved with this franchise. So that's why it didn't make sense whenever he sold it. And I was like, do you need some money? Because it doesn't make sense why he would want to sell the team. And then obviously people sell the team and they still want to be involved. He said, I'm a sell. but I'm still going to be in charge of basketball decisions for the next five years. And they were like, yeah, buddy, okay.
Starting point is 01:05:33 And so that goes out the window. Then you have the report of him trying to buy back in. He's still always been around and has been very, very vocal about the moves that the Mabs are making. If he doesn't sell, Luca is still there right now and everything is fine. I like that. Let's focus on that. The biggest regret at the Dallas Mavericks is their owners sold them to some of America's greatest supervillains. New Orleans Pelicans.
Starting point is 01:05:55 Obviously, the biggest regret is trading. their unprotected first-round pick to the Atlanta Hawks. But also, maybe the, you know what, their rigorous regret probably is in that because they'll probably convince themselves was still worth it. I would say they should have kept that pick or made it protected at least
Starting point is 01:06:07 and just drafted Derek Queen where they drafted Jeremiah Fears. But on top of that, they also traded it. The biggest regret, this was an actual regret because they couldn't have done anything about it. They couldn't have known, but it stings you deep down your heart now that you're this unlucky, trading the paces are picked back
Starting point is 01:06:22 right before Tyree's Halibor in terms of the killings. That's the biggest regret anybody should have. We should focus on that way more. because that is pure misfortune. That's the one where like that happened. And I was like, time travels real. Exactly. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:06:34 I know that there's another universe right now. Because what do you mean you traded back for your own pick days before? Days is Achilles. And that's when I knew the state of Indiana is blessed. Yes. Somebody's looking down upon them and giving them favor in this life. Wait, so you're telling me there's a world that they have the Pacers pick and their own pitch. Yes, a very plausible world.
Starting point is 01:06:54 And they have Derek Queen still. they just lose Jeremiah Fears Which Jeremy Fears Jeremy Fears might prove to be a very good player He might prove to be elite one day I don't know yet I don't have a good feel for it I'd probably rather have those That other option I just outlined
Starting point is 01:07:07 Imagine if they had two top four picks this year Oh shit No Stephen A Now let me chill Let me just Let me Uh
Starting point is 01:07:16 Houston Rockets That is me What do you do this Because they didn't really do anything wrong We all like their moves To find out What you said Signing DFS
Starting point is 01:07:25 Oh, okay, sure. Yeah, that's the one where just 100% has not worked out. Waste the money. Could have been another point guard. Probably. And you went all in on, and for good reason, I think they really, really wanted to lean in on the size and physicality and offensive rebound. And they said, anybody who is 67, 6, 6, 8, 6,9, you will come play for us.
Starting point is 01:07:46 And DFS had a very good year with the Lakers last year, was very, was very competent, could could defend everywhere could knock down threes all of this stuff and he just hasn't been able to do that with the rockets and so that knees cooked yeah i'm not i'm not i'm not gonna sit up here and say right now that oh trading for kevin derwent was a was a mistake you do that basically every time especially when the upgrade is from jalen green to kevin derrant you do that all the time and dillen bruce yeah i don't i still don't think that and even the version of dillen brooks that we're seeing this year you're not getting that version of dillen brooks on this rocket's team also dillambris is incredible We saw him hit of some Hesies in the first 20 games and react like he made some leave.
Starting point is 01:08:27 He's still Dylan. He's still doing Brooks. He's a lot of him. He's a very good player, but we don't got to act like this person is a good on Brooks. He's an international hero. And but you're not, you're not allowing him to put on his Superman cape with this version of the rocket. So I think DFS is one of the only things that you can point to and, and say that's a real regret. Are you all still fine with the E-May signing?
Starting point is 01:08:49 Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I know he's been getting critiqued more lately. Yeah, he doesn't have the roster he wants. He clearly does not want to be coaching Operant in Shangoon. He wants to have a traditional center.
Starting point is 01:09:00 And that bleeds through everything they do is that he's having to make do with a star that doesn't fit his style of play that he desires. That's just going to be a thing forever, I guess. But he's a good coach. Maybe you would have wanted, looking back, a coach that is equal caliber, but fits their players they have a little better.
Starting point is 01:09:14 Yeah. It's asking for a lot to nail that exactly. And even then, like, I still think he's a good coach and he's like middle of the pack, slightly above average coach. but I think this season specifically is showing how he has limitations. And if you're a coach at the day, Brett, like, you're given, you're given recipe and you're supposed to, like, cook with it.
Starting point is 01:09:31 He's a bit of a stubborn or merchant. Exactly. You know, he only does things in one specific way. And I think if you only are able to, like, be good in one specific way, how good are you really, you know? Yeah, a lot of coaches. Most coaches, I think, are capable of being successful in one way. The good ones know how to pivot in certain times.
Starting point is 01:09:50 If you get the opportunity to be an NBA coach, aside from, like, former player, it gets an opportunity for whatever reason. Most of the time, there's a world in which you can be a good coach. Like, we've seen bad coaches have good seasons. And then later on learn they're terrible. Like Nick Nurse is really coaching off of 2019. And the years of the Raptors, he was really good with that specific caliber of team. Sixers fans don't feel like he's a great coach now.
Starting point is 01:10:09 He's not horrible, but he's not like elite like he seemed in 2018, 2019. So situation and fit is everything for coaches. Yeah. I agree. The last team in this division, I believe, is the San Antonio Spurs. You be correct. I have them. It's so hard to think about pinpoint something with them because they've made the right decision for the last few years. This past off season, they didn't do too much. They didn't have to do too much. They just had to go ahead and select Dylan Harper. They just, they're on the cusp of winning like 50 games or maybe they already won 50 games so far this year. No one saw that coming to them being the number two seed in the West this year. They're like ahead at a schedule. They're actual contenders now.
Starting point is 01:10:52 I think the only thing that I could look back on, and I have to cheat also. Over this last year, I have to extend that from year two to year three. Okay. I can look in the 2022 NBA draft and see that they selected Jeremy Sohan right ahead of guys. About four years? Yeah, exactly. God damn. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:11:11 They've been, dude, they've been making the right decision every single time, you know. I try to go ahead and pick at him to see, oh, man, like you decided roll into the off season with someone like Harrison Barnes. and he doesn't he doesn't start with you anymore I look at the I remember the free agency class list this past summer it was terrible they had to rolling away Harrison Barnes so this specific this specific draft right here if you if you look at the names that that were available after so on oh j-dub oh jilland durn fuck god damn that hurts right there Tori Easton even would have been better than so on sorry he'll be filthy with
Starting point is 01:11:43 wemby yeah exactly and Jake La Ravia I think specifically how they even they even handle Saw Han 2 like you remember what in his in Wemby's rookie year they were fucking running him as the point guard
Starting point is 01:11:57 and everyone was so pissed that pop that year oh man don't even don't even remind me of a pop criticism that pissed me off yeah I guess we got to go back to there yeah they've been pretty
Starting point is 01:12:05 spotless yeah next division let's move over to southeast division seemingly the one that we always paid at least attention to
Starting point is 01:12:14 in these episodes let's do the Atlanta Magic they've had a displace And obviously, I don't really know what exact one thing they should regret is. They, I mean, they trade for Desin Bain. It's a good move. It worked out.
Starting point is 01:12:27 Like, he's good. They gave him a little too much, but, like, so be it. Their draft picks have been pretty good. I'm going to go back to them giving Jonathan Isaac a five-year deal in 2024. Is that still active? Wait. Dude, they, like, barely started. They gave him a five-year deal.
Starting point is 01:12:40 Think he had a five-year contract extension. Oh, he said 24. Yeah. Ooh. I think him a five-year contract extension. For how what? It's not a lot. It's like $12 to $15 million a year.
Starting point is 01:12:48 But they don't need Jonathan Isaac on their team. Jonathan Isaac can't play big minutes. They don't need to have him on their roster for that long. It's like the Jared Vanderbilt thing where they give him so many years. I have not super significant money. But in the age of the second apron, every money is significant. You can't have slots just dead like that. That was a mistake.
Starting point is 01:13:05 But I think we should talk about Palo Man Carrey a little bit right now because the regrets aren't really there. Palo and Carra is moving me. No. Palo and Carra was moving so much for the last week. Yeah. Obviously post All-Star break, he's been playing really well. The first few games was a little bit of hot shooting that we were like,
Starting point is 01:13:17 all right, well, let's see. He's continued to play really well since he went sycamode against the Minnesota Timberwolves and has been on fire since then. One, he's just shooting well and I was like, okay, you know, he goes through good stretches. I'll monitor it. That's good to see, but I'm not like going to go, whoa, he's back yet. He had this comment. Hall of and Carol, I'm not making an All-Star game.
Starting point is 01:13:37 I looked at the mirror first. Already. Love those words. I looked in the mirror first. It's about being honest with yourself and realizing that you didn't really deserve to be an All-Star, honestly. Incredible comment to see. from Palo Bankera specifically who the reasons that people have been critical of him
Starting point is 01:13:52 have largely been playstyle-wise and it seemed like he had a little bit of a hard-headed play style where he was like I'm going to play like Palo I'm going to do my hard middies and stuff and like I'm just going to be a bucket and you're going to live and die with that. To see this level of self-reflection and to see how it's not only saying the right things
Starting point is 01:14:08 but how it's translated on the court in this past week bro he has been slashing with so much more aggression than he was early in the season when he was playing otherworldly terrible I'm going to believe in March basketball right now and I'm going to believe he's figured out a little bit Normally you don't want to believe in March basketball Because players just play shitty teams
Starting point is 01:14:24 Like he pieced up the wizards, whatever People shoot well because it's lower stakes, whatever The fact that we won Know he was so bad this season and regressed in ways That don't really make sense given his age Two, the fact that Because he got hurt, missed time came back It kind of seemed like there's some mental stuff there
Starting point is 01:14:42 Not wanting to interrupt the flow And he kind of had some kind of mental gap And we see him acknowledge that mental gap here and seemingly reversing it. And in three, the fact that it lines up so well with what you see on the court with him slashing so much better, so much more decisive,
Starting point is 01:14:56 taking so many less terrible jumpers, I kind of believe he's figuring it out right now. He had a solid game last night against the Cavs. The Magic have won five in a row right now. Yeah. And they look solid for a long time. I'm back in. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:12 It is very rare that you see people. Oh, Jamal Mosey says something too. Yeah. Wait, can you play the Jamal clip? You can just read it because the audio's kind of bad, I think. I asked Jamal Mosley about Palo's efficient, assertive decision making
Starting point is 01:15:24 as of late. His mindset shift after the All-Star game, aggressive, quick decisions, early, easy baskets. I can't give the young man enough credit to sit down and guard big-time players. He's finding the right play. Correct. Everything that we're talking about is play style,
Starting point is 01:15:37 he'll still be a bad shooter. He'll still have his bad stretches, yada, yada. His speed in which he's processing the game and making quick decisive decisions is night and day, And that's a difference between All-Star Palo, who has some stuff he needs to work on to hit, like, top 10 level player, but it's still very good versus the active detriment he was before the All-Star game. Yeah, 110%. I agree, bro.
Starting point is 01:15:57 And then even on top of that, too, something that I just, like, love to see out of, like, young players or just players in general, outside of, like, getting your buckets, like, what else are you going to be good at? He's been asserting himself, like, crazy on the fucking boards, but just the other day, he had a 15 rebound game. I think it was against the Minnesota Timberwolves. Yeah. Yeah. And they boo him the fuck up. But before that, he had 12 rebounds. And a couple games before that, he had 11 and then he had 10 again.
Starting point is 01:16:19 So it's like overall, which clear is, there is a switch. There is more server. There is like less. Sometimes you do seem to dribble the ball a little bit too long, whatever. But it is what it is. He's not perfect. Yeah. He's not perfect.
Starting point is 01:16:30 But hey, this is not looking like the 25th best young player in my top. Yeah, you blessed him. You blessed him by saying Peyton Watson's been better this year. You let the fire under him. I don't assume he saw that. All right, man. Let me clarify for America. Yep.
Starting point is 01:16:42 You're not back in yet, right? you're just move. Yeah, let me clarify what I'm saying. Well, let me clear. How do I frame what I've been saying
Starting point is 01:16:50 the whole time? We've been saying all year that he's playing like shit and he's not making progression and this is year we needed to see progression because previously he was a talented young player
Starting point is 01:17:00 that they reached the heights that his fans want him to be at or claiming he was already at that being a top 10 player he need to make serious improvements. Yeah. And this year he regressed. Not only did he not make
Starting point is 01:17:09 this improvements he regressed. And as somebody who wanted to see that progression, it was the opposite of what you want to see obviously. And it was very, very hard to have a lot of faith in him getting better. Never do we say he'll never be good again because that's foolish at this age. But I'm not feeling positive right now. And until he proves otherwise, I am not going to say anything that's hoping for the future getting better until he shows me he can.
Starting point is 01:17:31 Now he's showing me he can. Now he's showing me he's back on that level. And if we're going to be vocal about him being God-awful to start the year, now we've got to say he's answering what we want. We all thought they could be a top three seed. We all thought they could be one of the better team. after getting Desmond Bain, his play almost single-handly prevented that for a lot of the season. And now it's no longer the case.
Starting point is 01:17:49 And I think there's reason to be optimistic again. Okay. I just need a bigger sample size. I can go on. Exactly. So that's why I'm not saying he's top-ton player. He's what we wanted to be. But we're no longer on,
Starting point is 01:17:58 oh my God, this is an unforeseen regression from a 23-year-old All-Star. We're now back to, okay, he's playing normally like himself again. We can start to have a little bit of hope. And Magic FC on Twitter is talking about how he always does his post-all-star break, that he always gets better. That would be a new criticism. Why the fuck do you need to also break to happen for you to get better? Let me see a full season of true shooting percentage above league average.
Starting point is 01:18:17 Let me see a full season of your offense being better with you on the court versus without you. We still never seen that for a full season. So I won't be super over the moon until I get a bigger sample size and I don't have to deal with so much downside. But in this present day, going towards the playoffs, I feel much better. What if this is just the player that he is? Because I feel like there's certain players in his story that like in the regular season, they're just coasting and then in the playoffs to turn up. Like Jimmy Butler is the show. Sure, but he's not coasting.
Starting point is 01:18:41 He's struggling. That's the difference. He's not coasting. He was in seemingly a mental straight jacket. It has to get through his own play style deficiencies. I think that's the difference there is. It wasn't like effort. It was legit struggle.
Starting point is 01:18:51 He also has one, like, yeah, he's risen and he's had really good playoff moments. He has not risen anywhere near playoff Jimmy. So I can halfway live with coasting if you are going to be Michael Jordan in the playoffs. If that's going to happen. That's one. Two, I like to see this. now the last step is let me see this when franz comes back as well because i would have that that too but also let me see it for longer isn't that yeah yeah
Starting point is 01:19:19 it's it's gonna happen with or without franz is like because even even if this happened for 20 games whenever franz was out then the question would be okay can you do it with them can we get to the point where you have you have two talented six nine wings and desmond bane out there on the as a as a guard and we can finally get the full idea of this team because you are unlocking everybody else with your playstop, with your slashing, and you are, all three of you guys are additive to each other. Can we see that version?
Starting point is 01:19:49 That's what I want to say. Yeah. And post all-star break, he's averaging like 27, 9, and 6. The 27 probably won't last because he's currently shooting 40% from 3. We have enough sample size that he's not a 40% from 3 type of three-point shooter. So I'm assuming that won't be quite as like first team all-unbated level production. That's okay.
Starting point is 01:20:05 As long as, like you said, Franz comes back and we see the same level of decisiveness, same level of defensive effort, which has been very good as well. The playmaking has been quick. Like I said, focusing on slashing and not jump shooting, which you're much better at. As long as we see that,
Starting point is 01:20:17 I don't really care what the scoring numbers go to. The two point shot can fall off again. Not as concerned. As long as you have the bedrock of being an elite slasher and creating off of that, that's what I need to see
Starting point is 01:20:26 to feel better. Because the East is still open. If they had 20 games of this and this is real and he's back and frontons comes back, they can still make a splash. They're not too far off. Dude, I just text.
Starting point is 01:20:34 They're the fifth season in the east right now. I blink. They jumped up from like eight to five. Shout out the Raptors and Sixers falling apart. Bums. God, that's crazy. They can pounce. If you tell me this is real and we see this for the rest of the regular season,
Starting point is 01:20:46 they can win a playoff series, which is crazy to where you were three weeks ago. They're playing the cows in the first round. Which this is also about Desmond Bang going crazy as of late too. We should also pay him some glaze for the last five games. He's average like 27 as well. Fuck them, picks. He's been going nuts.
Starting point is 01:21:00 You shoot a dagger he had last night? Yeah, yeah. It was the Peter Griffin. Yeah. It was crazy. Yeah, so shout out Pelleman and Carol. I hope it lasts. It is March, so I guess we can't be too excited yet, but we can definitely notice the improvement.
Starting point is 01:21:13 My next two teams in this division happen to be the Atlanta Hawks and the Washington Wizards. Both same of the biggest regrets happen in the same goddamn mind. And that's, of course, the NBA draft, the 2024 NBA draft. Now. Passing them back and forth. Regret, regret, regret, regret. Trey Young thing is interesting. We're on a seven-game win streak.
Starting point is 01:21:33 We haven't had that type of win streak in like a long time. Yeah. I didn't even know that. You've been streaking. good for them. Wow. We want to talk about it, but it is what it is. I don't want to talk about it.
Starting point is 01:21:43 I know why you don't. I know what you don't. I don't want to talk about it because I'm scared of won't last. And I'm tired of them breaking my heart. We are a much better defense team. Surprise, surprise. That's trauma right there.
Starting point is 01:21:53 And we've been. I tell you, it is trauma. I hate when I hype up mid. I don't care if a team is better than I think. I hate when I hype up a mid team that ends up being trash. That breaks my heart. You might be doing it right now with Paulo, though. We'll see.
Starting point is 01:22:06 We'll see. I don't know who hype him up. I'm just acknowledging me. prove it. Yeah, we'll see. Relative to how we've been talking about. You're trying to force you to be the palo guy every episode. I know.
Starting point is 01:22:17 Because I didn't put him below Payne Watson. And now I'm acknowledging he's decent. That's your man. Come on, man. I'm crying. You know, if he's going to shoot 40% and three in slash like that, then he can be my man's. No. He'll always use it up.
Starting point is 01:22:31 But yeah, for the Hawks. But as soon as he stops. For the Hawks, obviously, it's drafting Zachary Rishet. the number one overall pick. They didn't have to do that. No one forced their hands to do that at all. They could have forced Alex R to be a hawk. They didn't have to go in and do that.
Starting point is 01:22:46 They could have trained it back for all I care. But probably every team didn't necessarily want to do that because it was just a weaker draft. So at the end of the day, Zach Rish, I should have been put in that position, regardless of the fact. So that's that for them.
Starting point is 01:22:58 I personally would have rather had someone like Donovan Kling. I would have fucking had, I would rather have Alex R. But Donald Kling would have been like a perfectly fine fit throughout, no matter what you want to do with this roster or what happens to Trey, Trey here Trey Gondonnet, don't matter. Donovan Klingin is one of those guys in the league who just has like rare skills. It's not
Starting point is 01:23:17 an exaggeration to say picking Donovan Klingin would have saved the Trey Young era. Yeah. And I follow Smart Hawks fans that wanted Klingin specifically in that draft. Like that wasn't a impossible to find opinion. Yeah. People had accepted it because DraftExpress and his industry plant making
Starting point is 01:23:33 ability for Zachary Chishet had made us all believe that Zachary Sosay needs to be in consideration for number one. But I know I follow a lot of educated draft guys that said Donovan Klingin is the perfect player for the Hawks at 1, which is age bias. Yeah. Yeah, I agree. I agree. So that sucks. And then doubling up for the Washington Wizards, they shouldn't have taken Bub, bro. That's not that high. 14 is kind of crazy. Bub is not like a bad player, but he just not added into the rebuild and playing productive basketball all of the time. They could have had so many guys. They could have had Jared McCain. They also could have
Starting point is 01:24:04 Isaiah Collier who fell like crazy in this draft. I think it was like 29 or something like that. I still don't understand why. I don't remember why maybe it was like, I don't remember if it was health things. We were baffled when it happened. I can't remember why though. Yeah, it was crazy.
Starting point is 01:24:18 Maybe I maybe because I knew we couldn't shoot. Maybe teams just valued that less than we did. Yeah, exactly. But clear as day, that was a wrong decision for them because as time goes on. Did he have some interview stuff? It's just like. Well, we interview him. Maybe I don't know.
Starting point is 01:24:30 And he was like a bad interview or something. Well, we talked about how hilariously. quiet he was and very like and the agenda and the assumptions you would make it based on that I don't know if we saw I don't know if we saw reports that teams said he had bad interviews or not
Starting point is 01:24:45 was it health related I can't remember was there injury stuff I that would be just my best my best guess right now safe assumption yeah he goes didn't he have interview stuff we interviewed he tell us
Starting point is 01:24:58 he's extrapolating but yeah anytime you see your lottery pictures consistently get deprioritized year by year by year. It's not a good look, bro. Yeah, Kalilware. Parer him and they probably didn't want, sorry didn't want to be a powerful, didn't want to be a center.
Starting point is 01:25:12 You could have paired him and his center to the future up in the same draft, had two shooting big. That would have been, so fun to watch. That would have been cool as fun. Yeah. That would have been amazing. Not good basketball, but fun as fuck.
Starting point is 01:25:21 I think it might have been good basketball. I'm not going to lie. I mean, rookie year would have. Alexar was the worst score in the NBA's regular year. Just two guys, that could have been interesting. Yeah. They didn't have a center at the time? Who did they have?
Starting point is 01:25:32 Valentunes. Yeah, Valenthumis was there. Yeah, I hope they didn't make a decision based on Valenuanus. Good Lord. Okay, who's left in this division? So who got the hornets? I do. Yeah, we'll go to the 24.
Starting point is 01:25:47 Salah T. John. Oh, shit, yeah. Everyone regrets what they did in 24 draft. Fuck, man. This Josh is full of regrets. At number six, bro, we were, and when it happened, we were like, we did a live stream at that time, and we were like, huh? Him?
Starting point is 01:25:59 What? Remember at the time, they were, it was like almost a shoe when it felt like. like in terms of media smoke that they were going to pick Dalton Connect. Everybody was sure they were going to pick Connect. That would have been worse.
Starting point is 01:26:10 I don't know. Yeah, how do you remember that? It would have been worse, actually. They did. They picked the coffee baby over the coffee baby. And the process with this was also bad just because they had teams
Starting point is 01:26:22 trying to trade up to number six. And they were like, no, like we have to stay here. We have to get the line. Were they trying to share it for a clinging? I think so. Interesting. I think, I think I remember like Portland trying to trade up maybe even Memphis
Starting point is 01:26:34 Oh Memphis wanted Klingin They were trying to trade up above Portland And they ended up getting eaten And so there's a word Where you could have had salon And had an end had extra picks You could pick that 15 in a salon This is Justice Winslow
Starting point is 01:26:48 A lot over again man Facts That was worse It's good like there was a haul Bro there was rumors that the Celtics Wanted to trade two Nets picks For Justice Winslow And three first on picks total
Starting point is 01:26:58 So the hornets could have ended up With like Jalen Brown and Jason Tato But instead, they didn't even pick Justice Winslow. They picked Frank Kaminsky. God. God damn. Hey,
Starting point is 01:27:09 thank God. Every GM is lucky that the idiot GM's intake is offer. That's stuff. But yeah, I would say that. Yeah, makes sense. Miami Heat. Starting discourse about ethical basketball. I think that might be the biggest regret over the last years is what happened the other night.
Starting point is 01:27:29 Okay. Let's talk about Alabama some more. after initial reaction that everybody saw and saw you hating like crazy, had your opinion changed it all, or are you still being a hating old man? In terms of what? Like, shout out to Bam. I think Bam did what he was told to do. And they were like, yo, you're going to score 80 tonight.
Starting point is 01:27:47 And they were like, okay, fine. He's a good soldier. Like, he followed. If you guys didn't see it. He's a good soldier. If you guys did not see your reaction, go to the TD3 clips playlist or go to the video tab on our YouTube channel. to your audio feed and watch our instant reaction the other night to BAM's 83 point
Starting point is 01:28:05 game. It's fucking hilarious. Donovan hates fun. I think ultimately, and especially looking back, the thing that I do is that I said, I wish we had hated on the Wizards more. Really? Fair. That's fair. They really should have started a fight. I said that last one. No,
Starting point is 01:28:21 100% because I do think that there are, I think that there are like moments where this team is tanking and so we kind of just understand that they're going to lose by 25 on on any given night. But that team that they rolled out the other night was awful. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:36 It's straight teenagers and players that are not going to be on the roster in two years. And so the fact that we can get to a March game and a guy like Bam, who, again, is an NBA player at the end of the day. He's been in Olympia, all this other stuff. But is Bam at a while he doesn't average 25 a night? Like, he's not this amazing score. The fact that he's able to go out and dominate the Wizards to this level because they are that bad.
Starting point is 01:29:00 That's a problem. And they 100% suck for everything that they did. So like I think there might there might be like 2% part of me that's a little bit less mad at the heat because they're also just taking advantage of the situation in front of them. The Wizards are they also are an embarrassment to what the to what the league is. Like they are they are for sure. Then the Mike used to go. They are a disgrace. I just burped.
Starting point is 01:29:29 He knew it too. I collapsed in him. You started cracking up. And when the home was like, damn. But yeah, the Wizards are 16 and 48. They're one and nine in the last 10 and they've lost nine in a row. They gave up 31 in the first and we're like, yeah, okay, you want 43?
Starting point is 01:29:49 Go ahead. The moment, the moment Bam has 31, I don't care, right? Because clearly if we're tanking two, oh, we don't really care about this game. You double him every time. time down, he's not scoring another point.
Starting point is 01:30:03 I don't care if we lose this game by 50 because from the top down, that's what we want. That's okay, I guess. If we're going to take, if we're going to be bad, they just can't be that bad. And then obviously, I still do feel away about the last six minutes. I do think that it was, like, kind of wild. But, like, the Wizards also played a massive part in that. I like Ben, I'm substantially more now because he gave us this moment. It's so funny.
Starting point is 01:30:24 I'm just going to claim my Cory Brewer 50-point prediction from our bold predictions episode. I don't know why. Nothing to do with Corrieuhr. You just... That BAM is along those lines, dog. That BAM 83? I'm not going to lie to claim anything, but we can acknowledge the fact
Starting point is 01:30:38 that you also said something about Cory Bauer as an unrelated fact. That BAM should just like astronaut. No, what I will give you credit for. Actually, not credit, but I will acknowledge. Is that you were talking about the Miami Hed scaring you because they have the trauma of beating the Celtics inexplicably?
Starting point is 01:30:52 Yeah. Bam had a Bilesman to walk into your house in the first round. 80? And you're going to be thinking about 80. Eighty. 84. Also, like, this is big for BAM, I think.
Starting point is 01:31:04 It resets the way people think about him. He would be more different in that game. And he's been good post-all-Star break in general. Yeah. The way he was driving, when you look back at that game, granted, they had the worst smallest defenders ever in front of him. He was driving with some force. With the ball in his hands, like his handle was looking good.
Starting point is 01:31:20 Like, he's never that aggressive going downhill. Well, no, because the other four members of the starting five were out. They were like, yo, it's all on you today. But, like, I wonder if that's, like, hopefully the start of him being, like, what am I capable of? Yeah. I mean, it should be. The Venomime 83, right?
Starting point is 01:31:37 You can do anything. He just punched him. He punched him. He's fucking jaw off. Or he could be the worst thing possible, though. Everyone's now expecting him to be like this high volume score, and he's like, ah, I can't score past 17 still. No. That is a very real chances that happened in two.
Starting point is 01:31:54 I'm going to choose to believe he now is a symbiate suit, and he's like, I can not have so much power. That's your man. I'm crazy. But yeah, I mean, it was the whole thing, it was overly silly of a, it was one of the most. Also, this is crazy. This is ridiculous. If you type in, I just Google Bam's name, heat colored confetti came down on the screen. What?
Starting point is 01:32:21 If you, if you Google, if you Google Bam's name. That's crazy. This is ridiculous. Oh, there it is on screen. Come on. Man that's hilarious A little fire Fire mojy going up the screen
Starting point is 01:32:36 That's funny itself That's dick suck Byr That's okay He's okay To the glazing bam Okay Last division
Starting point is 01:32:49 Northwest Division Who do I have I have to Portland Trailblazers I feel pretty bored with them In terms of thinking about regrets I can't really like pinpoint one big thing
Starting point is 01:32:58 I'm like ask Who Henderson's not good Unfortunately that was a couple years ago now. I'm going to say not trading some of your veterans by now. Yeah. Why is Jeremy Grant on the Trailblazers? I have it for you.
Starting point is 01:33:11 I just had to make sure that was the correct year. In 2025, they gave Chonsie Billups an extension. Oh, shit. That's the biggest regret by the phone. You're right. I was talking about Jeremy Grant and Time Lords. Fuck that. They paid their head coach.
Starting point is 01:33:25 They immediately got federal charges. They immediately saw doing a perp walk with FBI agents behind him. Crazy sentence to say out loud, and that's their reality. And now Tiago Splitter is their coach temporarily. Biggest regret by far, not hiring somebody that's not a criminal right now. And they weren't even great. He went 116 and 211. Yeah, he was dog shit, by the way, before that.
Starting point is 01:33:50 He started to have a little bit of a turnaround towards the end. For the first couple of years, he was an atrocious coach. He was so bad that I gave D'Andreighton so much credit and the assumption he'd be better because he was playing for the worst coach in the NBA. that proved to be too much credit given him. But I wasn't entirely off because Chauncey Billis was for sure the worst coverage in the NBA for the first years. They had the stretch in the second half of the year where like their defense really
Starting point is 01:34:09 locked up and they were able to capitalize on everything. That completely shifted how we talked about Chanty Bilipsi, got the extension. And then we were like, oh wow, the Blazers are actually doing something. They actually. Donovan Klingin changed his life. Yeah, we found, we found our culture here. They gave him the multi-year extension because he was supposed, he was signed through the 27, 28 season. Or he was like, people forget now.
Starting point is 01:34:30 He was unimaginably terrible for the first couple of years. The team's offense made no sense. Their defensive effort was terrible. You know, it takes time to learn how to be a coach. So, like, you kind of understood it. There was no redeeming qualities until Donner and Klingen walked in those doors and was incredible for the second half of the rookie year. And they extended him.
Starting point is 01:34:48 Such a waste of money. And not like it's caspaces. Who cares? But, like, damn, their pockets hurt. Unfortunately, you know else, not necessarily pockets don't hurt, but your spirits hurt, your heart hurt. Tell me. I got the Denver Nuggets, man. I've been talking about this probably like I've been like not the harsh
Starting point is 01:35:02 critic but I've been the most adamant about how annoying this thing. Yeah, because you're making up for being the biggest glazer at first. For Cam Johnson? Oh, I thought you were, I'm in for the team in general. Oh, yeah. For Cam Johnson? I love Cam Johnson, but I want to say I'm the biggest glazier. No, you're not.
Starting point is 01:35:17 You have a regular opinion of Cam Johnson. Yeah, yeah, yeah. An uncontroversial player that everyone's opinion is right down the middle. Actually, not anymore. Not anymore. Tell me about it. Right now, bro, like over the course of the entire season, really like you see how much you miss someone like Michael Porter Jr.
Starting point is 01:35:31 And I would never think that in a million years, I would utter those words. Because when this trade initially happened, everyone like acknowledged like, oh yeah, like Cam Johnson is, although like their points for game is like damn rare. The same Cam Johnson is the Supreme player because there's a little bit more playmaking that he's going to give you more ball handling. The defense in different ways can be viewed as better. And also felt like he was on the same level of shooter as Michael Porter Jr. as well. And so far this year, none of that shit has been true at all.
Starting point is 01:35:58 Yeah, he might be the same level of hitting wide open jumpers, but you definitely, and this isn't something you miss, because we knew this in the moment, the main thing you lose with Michael Ford Jr. is size and contested shooting. Yeah. And rebounding. But like the contested shooting, that ability to make difficult shots off of Nicole Yokic passes
Starting point is 01:36:13 and have that quick trigger, you do miss that. And I think that what you miss specifically, and this is so weird, but you need a guy who's fucking delusion. You need a guy who is willing to, like, fuck up the offense. It feels like Cam Johnson is almost too self-aware and he sees all the synergy that's going on between guys like Bruce Brown,
Starting point is 01:36:31 Agent, or Aaron Gordon and Nicola and Jamal Murray at the end of the day. That's my favorite part. Clear opportunities for someone like Cam Johnson's get his shit off real quick. They need you to get this shit off. And he's always just rally against him being in the corner, just chilling. That's the best part of the discourse is people who are like, yo, this motherfucker's too smart. He's so smart that he's making them insecure about missing shots.
Starting point is 01:36:48 He's not confident of. We need boneheads next to Nicole Yokage. We need idiots. Yes. That's why Tim Hardaway Jr. is the perfect type of idiot for this team. I don't know Tim Harder Jr. But Micahpore Jr.
Starting point is 01:37:01 I have to find saying some shit. He's taking crazy shots and they go in almost every single time. At least it feels like it. He's a perfect type of irrational for sure. I don't know anything about his mental. Mike Moore Jr. There was a crazy comment. Come on, man.
Starting point is 01:37:12 And that's why Tim Hardaway Jr. It's a perfect idiot for this team. I will say. Michael Boy Jr., she's fucking talking to Mike so we can call him an idiot. He's a perfect idiot for this team. Tim Hardaway, I cannot confirm or deny. Okay. When I say, you know,
Starting point is 01:37:25 I don't say. Just that but Sajit, bro, he's shooting 41% from the field or from three-point line taking seven through the game. He's a perfect type of delusional shooter you need.
Starting point is 01:37:33 He's crazy, bro. W. Idiot. Yeah. That's my type of idiot, bro. I love him, man. And Michael Puggey's back
Starting point is 01:37:42 on the bikes, man. He won't shut the fuck out. He loves him, Andrew Tate Clips. Wait, he is? Yes, he's talking about he tests the girls he dates by showing him Andrew Tate Clips.
Starting point is 01:37:52 And like, depending on how they react, that's how he makes his judgment on them. fucking dumb ass. What does he expect? Like, does he think he's some type of like, he just wants to pot at all time. He just wants this.
Starting point is 01:38:03 He's a potter at heart, man. He just wants to find his red pill trad wife out there in the streets of Brooklyn. We need to get him out of New York, man. We need to get him out of the public consciousness. No more microphones. No, because it really doesn't matter about the location.
Starting point is 01:38:16 He was flying places to pod before. Like, and he's going to find his red pill trad wife anywhere he goes. In fact, he's probably, in Brooklyn, it's probably harder to find him there. He's ready. But.
Starting point is 01:38:25 I fully agree. Like the Cam Johnson experiment is just not. Now, he had a good game last night, but they also, they killed the rockets. Oh, yeah,
Starting point is 01:38:33 that was bad. The rockets earned. Yeah, that was, yeah, that was tough. But so he had a, he had a good game last night,
Starting point is 01:38:41 but there's just so many nights where the, and also on the wide open shooting, I don't even know that. Michael Wood Jr. was shooting like 50% on wide open Jones. Yeah. He was very true. He was knocked down.
Starting point is 01:38:53 And so you were getting the wide open stuff. You were getting the wide open stuff. You were getting the contested stuff. I thought that we would get a little bit more ball handling and creation, which I thought that they needed because I didn't know if Jamal Murray was going to elevate. But now that Jamal Murray has elevated, if we got this version of Jamal Murray last year with MPJ, they would have been so much better.
Starting point is 01:39:15 Also, MPJ is healthy now, which is the biggest thing, is MPJ was unhealthy last year. And even before that was rarely 100% healthy and played like shit. So we're kind of reacting to MPJ who was finally healthy and you rarely got this opportunity with another. So it's a little bit unfair in that regard. There's no reason to assume that MPJ would play at this level because for many times in the past he hasn't 100%.
Starting point is 01:39:33 I'm saying even the version of MPJ that they were getting last year with Denver. Last year would have been unacceptable. They'd be in the same spot with the level he was playing at into last year through those injuries, is what I'm saying, is that we'd have the same issues if they swapped them out right now. You know, because the real issue is Aaron Gordon's been out and their defense has been untenable. And Cam Johnson has more responsibility than expected.
Starting point is 01:39:52 And there's been this catapult of injuries that has made everything kind of everyone focused on Cam Johnson more I think you would focus on MPJ more if they didn't trade him if he was playing at the level he played at in previous years and you'd also say oh my God they gotta trade him now you know like they're they're opposite they have opposite benefits of circumstance right now
Starting point is 01:40:09 we will yes we will see because even the delusion for MPJ where really really shine is is in playoffs and in playoff games where they were 100% times where obviously
Starting point is 01:40:24 like but do you remember last year i i do but also i i do think that with the nuggets they just don't like as a whole getting threes off is not their game like that exactly so having somebody like mpj who is like i'm gonna get these threes off regardless if my shoulder works or not that is also really important and like there's a lot of times where cam johnson isn't in that mindset yeah and so you're just not getting that area of your office i'm just cautious that i don't want to go too hard on Cam Johnson because I do think now that they're whole. I can very much imagine him, then like figuring it out and come playoff time.
Starting point is 01:40:57 They're all right. They gave up a pick, which is really tough. That's the problem. That was also financial. We can't act like it's a one for one swap. MPJ makes a million dollars. I can't say million because everyone makes a million dollars.
Starting point is 01:41:07 He makes a billion dollars. He makes a billion dollars. He's overpaid and that freed up, they gave that pick to free up money to be able to add more players in the bench too. So we treat it like it's a one for one swap, but it was a much bigger calculus. Most definitely.
Starting point is 01:41:19 Most definitely is, man. I just miss the stupid. shots the MPJ would take and the stupid shots he would make. It's like that invisible meme. I miss my wife. I miss my moron. Timberwolves. You have them. Oh yeah, yeah. Letting you kill
Starting point is 01:41:37 Alexander Walker Walk. They miss him bad. Did you all see their last game? Oh, against the last games? Against the, not that one, I miss that one. Against the Lakers. Oh my gosh. Pick your poison. Fuck. They need a
Starting point is 01:41:51 they need an killer's under Walker type bad. they need a high energy shooter defensive guy like that and they brought an Ayutuuma who's a good player bring some of that energy but not to the same level of defense and like offball shooting, different type of player, right? There wasn't really an avenue to keep him unless you want to not keep Nasreid.
Starting point is 01:42:08 And I know how they feel about Nasreed. They're never going to let him walk and they had the faith in young guys so we understood why they had to lose a killer thunder Walker as a victim of the second apron. Nevertheless, looking back, it would be real nice if we had him and if we found a way to keep him.
Starting point is 01:42:21 Dare I say, over-dose. Nasreed. Oh, 100% you kept them over Nasreed. Yeah, I think so, but I feel like like I might underrate
Starting point is 01:42:28 the good size of Nasreed sometimes. But whatever. They need an killer Thunder Walker type real bad. And it's not something you can probably say
Starting point is 01:42:36 they should have done differently realistically, but it hurts. The reason why I can never be so high on the Timberlows ever is because I feel like every single year
Starting point is 01:42:43 they just lose like one big piece that like gets overlooked and then we look back as like, damn, they could have used that piece. And they have such a wonky roster
Starting point is 01:42:52 construction of like flawed players that when it clicks it's like whoa jayman daniels has this crazy role player upside when julius randall's clicking you have this crazy secondary strong creator yeah ricka bear can be a dpio i level defender when dante's hitting that's an insane shooter like they have all these strong traits around aunt that when it's on they look like the best team in the NBA yeah but when you go towards the other side of all those flawed players and you get the bad sides all at once julie randall is in a slump anthony edwards isn't passing his defense is hit and miss not don't Vincenzo's on a cold stretch, Riego Bear standing with his hands up, it's bad.
Starting point is 01:43:26 Yeah, I think Ant is like slowly overcompensating for the roster construction. Because that 24 team, I think, is still the best team they've had in this Ant era. With Kat? Yeah, with Kat. But. 100%. This is, like, have some interesting stats for you all. So over the last 13 games, they rank 25th in the NBA and passes per game,
Starting point is 01:43:45 23rd and assists per game, and 29th in potential assists. So, of course, I'm freaking hella. Specifically, Dante Devinchenzo. and Jane and Daniels, Jada McDaniels too, have been, like, wildly off. And then just in general, I feel like the next, like,
Starting point is 01:43:59 top coach to be fired is probably going to be their guy right there. And I feel like that because their offensive process in general is just nasty. No, I agree. If they fail this playoffs,
Starting point is 01:44:10 they should fire Chris Rich. Yeah, I agree. Failing is, what? First round? Not making the West Conference finals, I guess, at this point. Damn. That's the standard.
Starting point is 01:44:17 That's the standard. It's done two years in row. That's an unfair standard, obviously. Chris Finch is conference finals. man that's crazy no he's like lucky to be there conference finals man yeah he's lucky to coach anthony edward's conference finals man yeah he hasn't done anything too much to be even more added to what they've done he coached on one leg i forget he did so maybe he was a c lanyly or something like that
Starting point is 01:44:36 yeah maybe he's a dog but outside of that i want to see some that's hilarious i want to see some ideas not just rar that's funny so yeah i would like to if that if it doesn't work out i want to see you fired and i want to see a point guard next anthie edwards next year i hate point aunt. I hate it with all my heart. They gave it 153 to the Clippers last night. God. Who is Utah Jazz and you can spend 30 seconds talking about them? Utah Jazz. Oh, I got them
Starting point is 01:45:00 real quick. I'm counting to 30 in my head. Okay, can I wait like five more seconds to cut time? You're at waste at 8? All right, great. They should have probably traded or selected Will Riley in this past NBA draft. Okay. There we go. Oklahoma City Thunder. Last team. Me. No regrets.
Starting point is 01:45:18 Nice. Nice. Now they trade for Jared McCain and kind of address some of the offensive stuff we wanted. Bro, it's no regrets. No regrets. Like a lot of the issues have been because of injury and even on the extensions, they got,
Starting point is 01:45:30 they gave J-dub the extension of, hey, you're going to have to go out and get all-MBA another time and he's not going to make it this year. So they're going to dodge that. Supermax thing. Yeah, yeah, they're going to dodge the supermax thing. They have AJ Mitchell on poverty wages.
Starting point is 01:45:47 His agent needs to be fired. They have no regrets. I know he was hurt he was hurt he was hurt for quite some time last year he's making like a million a year yeah it is it is crazy work it is crazy not literally a million year
Starting point is 01:46:01 but it's like damn near it's closer to a million years of 10 every day I watch I'm like man was that I crazy for saying that I think he could be an all star one day I don't know more likely than not he won't be so maybe you're crazy
Starting point is 01:46:13 but you're not crazy for identifying he has a crazy ceiling but just numbers game most people aren't all stars so it's hard to reach that But can he be one of the best role players in the league? Absolutely. I think he already is.
Starting point is 01:46:25 He's on track. No regrets. Thomas over towards ACL, can't really regret that. Not your fault. They've done everything right, so no regrets. Yeah, I mean, is the best player in the world now? After that game, I've been crucified for saying the conversation for months. Fuck, you got it.
Starting point is 01:46:40 My mouth is closed. After that game and seeing what he did to. He's tough. It's hard to be in the night. Nicole Yogies this year dealing with. the injury and his defense being bad, he's undoubtedly the best player right now. If we're talking about what the conversation really means, like, does he have the crown over Yokic? I don't know. But I think it will be very easy to say yes if he once again wins at
Starting point is 01:47:03 finals, once again wins MVP, once again wins his MVP, once again wins his MVP back to back, potentially being Yokish back to back. It'll be easier to give him the crown and ignore the point three runs assists and what makes Yokic the best offensive player of all time potentially. It'll be easy to put him on the same level to where we say you wear the crown now because you've been so successful? I don't think he has the, he has the crown, but they're in a, they're in as close of a fight for the crown as it has been.
Starting point is 01:47:30 And he's closed the gap as fast as I thought that anybody will close the gap on Yonkins. And doing it. So there is a, if you say that he is the best, even right now in this moment, I'm not going to look at you crazy. He's the best right now this moment, undoubtedly to me.
Starting point is 01:47:46 Like that conversation to me is not a conversation. Like, because of, of Nicole Yokic coming back in injury, being a little rusty and especially defensively. Today, and really counting on the big, well, actually, Yolkish was great last year too. But this calendar season, he is undoubtedly the best playing in the world through this year. Like, the MVP should be damn near unanimous if he plays enough games. Is it the PRA that stopping people? Yes, it's 100% the PRA and the H.A.
Starting point is 01:48:08 Is that too? But I think to get the crown, it would have to be, at least for me, like, if we're going into a playoff series right now, and you just have like an average NBA team. team would I want Yokish or would I want Shea? And they're as close as they have been in a while. I think I might still want Yokic. You know what we need to happen. We need to have Shay translate his efficiency to the playoffs one time.
Starting point is 01:48:35 He's had two straight, really like four straight seasons, but let's count this year and last year as like all time, great, some of the best scoring seasons of all time. Peaks that are only rivaled by Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, Dwayne Wade, those type of names. some of those names aren't really rivaled in terms of regular season context. It's kind of Jordan and Shea in many ways. Playoff numbers have been quite the same. They got to the finals last year.
Starting point is 01:48:55 He had stinkers in the first round. He was still efficient overall. He still averages 30 at like 60% true shooting. He has 67% true shooting right now in the regular season. Only Yokes does that. To do that as a guard, in fact, we're underrating
Starting point is 01:49:07 how great his season is right now because we got so used to it last year. If he translates even 80% of that and has a playoff run of 30 points per game, beating teams handily, getting to like 62, 63%. true shooting, that'll stack up amazingly with every other legend that makes what the type of runs.
Starting point is 01:49:21 And at that point, I think the emotion of it, because you'll kind of see him killing it in the playoffs, it'll be kind of become undeniable. Yeah, that's probably, that's probably what we need. Because Loki, he probably could have snatched it last year. I think going, going seven with Denver, with them being as hurt as they were. It's like, you really should have, should have handled that. And he has some sinkers. Yeah, you should have handled that much quicker.
Starting point is 01:49:44 and the fact that that went to seven, it's like, okay, Yokin's on the other side, kept him afloat, he still has, he still has the crown. If they come back and they play again this year and they beat him,
Starting point is 01:49:54 then he will have the crowd. Yeah, because if he carried his consistency from the regular season into the playoffs, one, if he did for this year, he would just straight up be Michael Jordan. It's probably not possible that he has a playoff run of 66% true shooting on 32 points per game.
Starting point is 01:50:07 That would legitimately be 1991 Michael Jordan. So that won't happen. That just probably not when you're facing the best defenses in the world every night. but but what if he is that well then he's Michael Jordan yeah like it's crazy there is a there is a world where like Shay just keeps doing stuff and keeps delivering
Starting point is 01:50:27 and the one of the things about the game against the Nuggets that was so it was just so nice and so so refreshing it's like the dudes at the top of the league especially when we're talking about like LeBron Steph and Katie like they take shots at the end of the game and you expect them to go in and every time that there's a close game, you know in the last two minutes, they may not hit every single shot. They're going to hit one shot. And Shay, to do that every single time down the floor is the last two minutes,
Starting point is 01:50:57 I know, Shay's going to get to his midi. He's going to knock one down. And now that his three-point shot is better this year than it was last year. You can tell, especially in crunch time, he looks much more comfortable using it as a tool to end games. And obviously he had step back, you know, threes to win games last year too, but going to a step back jumper back to back times to end the game is like, okay,
Starting point is 01:51:22 he's on a different level right now. And he's like, even they showed the graphic of the clutch stats. And everybody was even like the top guys, we're thinking Tyrese, Cade, and all of them are, you know, around 5.4, 5.7. Shade's a full point ahead of them at 6.4 in the clutch.
Starting point is 01:51:40 And then he goes out and hits back-to-back threes. It's like, yo, man, like nobody's, nobody else is doing it like him. Yeah. And we, again, we just need to see the same, because, you know, in regular season, we know he's so amazing. Because he's insanely consistent. The scoring volume is there. The playmaking off that. The lack of turnovers that he creates, the, like, just math advantages he brings to an offense are so amazing in the regular season.
Starting point is 01:52:00 And in the playoffs so far, he's been great, but not one of the greatest of all time. Like, he has been in the playoffs when he's winning these MVPs. I mean, in the regular season, when he's winning his MVP's. The second we have one playoff run where that translates, at least somewhat, the conversational flip. You ask the question, do you think he's better? This is the most that I've ever questioned in my entire life. And I think for this year, especially like how bad things have been for Yokic on the defensive end, he got it. No, it is.
Starting point is 01:52:24 In the regular season, he plays like 2019 Kauai in the kind of like force that that brought as an individual score. And the way he utilized driving offense around that hasn't fought that way because of consistency in the playoffs. As soon as he is the same person, he'll get the same glaze that 2019 Kauai got. Yeah. Just seeing like the constant growth of progression while also like not with. letting certain things fall off in his game, like the defense versus. He had so many, like, impactful plays and so straight up, like, effort plays. And I make sure I'm in your Jersey plays towards the end of that Denver game.
Starting point is 01:52:53 They just, like, solidified him in his, like, stature of how I think about him as, like, the best player in the world. And he has it on that end. He hits all the clutch of shots in the goddamn world. Like, I don't know what he doesn't have to not call him that right now. It's still not lost on me, how crazy it is that we're here with Shake, Elvis, Alexander, being in these combos. And year by year, the outrageous things that fans of him will claim get less and less outrageous that beginning of last year when people were saying, yo, you're watching modern day Kobe. You're watching the next iteration of these all-time great guards that are going to be truly
Starting point is 01:53:25 one of the best ways you've ever seen. It was like, all right, let him do something first. He wanted an MVP, all right, let him win a chip first. He want a chip? All right. Let him do it again first. And it's just like. Which is, which is far.
Starting point is 01:53:35 It's right. It's normal. It's normal. Right. To be one of the best players of all time, this comes with the, these are growing pains that come with that. It makes sense. it's just crazy that he keeps doing it
Starting point is 01:53:43 and keeps elevating and that nothing, no ceiling that you put on him has remained. He just constantly you're finding his game, bro. This year's shooting like 55% from the field.
Starting point is 01:53:51 That doesn't even make any sense based off of like the nature of his game at all. Why is he taking step back threes like just a couple years ago we were just like wanting him to like get better and refine that part of his game. Just I think last year
Starting point is 01:54:05 maybe it was two years ago. He started out the year taking like nine threes a game or something crazy like that. Yeah. And this year like he's moved in and out completely and now it's like pretty integral to his game when it comes to seeing teams like Denver who just wants to simply double team him now I got some for you step back
Starting point is 01:54:19 back is like it's just like that now wonder what the ceiling is like because he's got to win back to back MVP's unless he gets hurt that's like certain at this point ceiling of like his like what do you mean like yeah like where does his end like what's like oh man I don't know so he I'm I'm thinking he wins another ring I don't see a team that's out there like terrify me as a thunder believer back to back to back to back finals MVP's it's on the table trajectory to top 10 all time. That's crazy. It's insane, but here we are. And we keep making the comparison between this team and the Golden State Warriors of Curry,
Starting point is 01:54:48 who was also a late bloomer and also made the MVP leap. They had a year where he got better and then, well, they lost the championship. Probably should have won it for 73. Like, he's on that same trajectory as Curry. Yeah. Yeah. It's a different. Different play style, of course, but same trajectory.
Starting point is 01:55:02 Yeah. I think right now, I mean, two MVPs and two chips, especially in back-to-back years and being able to say, like, I peaked here. Now you're here. Not many guys do that Yeah Yeah Yeah
Starting point is 01:55:14 You can be at that level So So we're saying if he does all that He's top 20 player Because that means He matches what Janus and Yokish have done Like Yes he's locked
Starting point is 01:55:24 He's locked for me for sure Yeah It would just be like a longevity Yeah After that That would be holding him back But even but even then So he'd be on pacey
Starting point is 01:55:32 He has four years Of average in 30 And so we're We're gonna be at half a decade Of him doing this So Four years of an elite peak like that in two years of one of the best peaks ever.
Starting point is 01:55:43 And so, and so, like, even if we just extrapolate three more years out of this and say that in a seven-year span, which is basically, yeah,
Starting point is 01:55:52 in like a prime, you have two MbPs, two chips, five seasons, and let's just, yeah, let's just be ultra-conservative and say you have five seasons
Starting point is 01:56:02 consecutively where you average 30. You're not a scrub defensively at all. And your team has made the finals, three times, right? Let's say they win this year, make another one, don't win, whatever. Let's say they just go two and one. That's top 20.
Starting point is 01:56:19 That's top 25 at minimum. Yeah, to me, there's no world when he's not top 25 player of all time. And really, to me, honestly, there's no world he's not a top 20 player of all time. Like, barring catastrophic injury or complete change, like assuming we can see what we see now and assume it happens for the same length
Starting point is 01:56:34 that happens for most star players, I don't see how he finishes anything less than top 20. I think y'all are even being conservative. I think he's a lot for top 15 of this. if that happens. If he wins again this year, I'll be with you. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:44 Yeah, if that scenario outline happens, I'll be with you. But as of today, 20 is the worst to me. Yeah. Yeah, that's crazy,
Starting point is 01:56:52 man. He's been past Dwayne Wade quite easily. It's so crazy. We just have... Has he already passed Dwayne Wade? Yes, I think so. Yeah, probably.
Starting point is 01:56:57 And like, I think it raised him 19 or something like that. Yeah. Last year, it's just as impressive as 2006. And now he's done it again. He's gonna have two MVPs. Okay, fairs.
Starting point is 01:57:09 That takes you far. Yeah. It's tough. If you want to say one peak Where's one year peak Maybe they're quite similar But like the body works And it's gonna catch up pretty quick
Starting point is 01:57:17 It's hard watching your heroes Get slain in real time Oh no Dway the 20th best player Not 19th Damn Way getting his head cut off my shades It hurts
Starting point is 01:57:28 He's a scout It hurts It hurts man He's just holding his head up like this That's hard Oh man You know what Dway has way more gold medals than shame.
Starting point is 01:57:42 Now what. Canada will never win a gold medal basketball. Never be at the top of an international game. What if he does? I can never. Listen, if Canada wins a gold medal, you're the gold. They can win the World Cup pretty easily. Yeah, we don't care about that.
Starting point is 01:57:56 They've been trying to make that count for like, I guess at this point, like 16 years. And it's gotten a little bit more, but the... It should count. We should make it count. The U.S. never sends their best players to the World Cup. And so that's why it's not looked at it in that. It should, though. It would be good for basketball if we care about the World Cup and had twice as many international opportunities.
Starting point is 01:58:17 Everybody has, everybody has the one international tournament that, like, means the most. And so normally it goes back and forth between Olympics and World Cup. Yeah, it's opposite for soccer. Yeah. Why don't they care about the Olympics and soccer? I'm not sure. I'm not sure. Yeah, I'm not sure, but the World Cup is the thing.
Starting point is 01:58:33 Yeah, yeah. Maybe maybe the mental of the world only has room for one. maybe people just like as nations individually don't have the mental capacity to care for two international competitions. That's what Bryce Harper said about the world baseball classic. Yeah, like one will always feel junior
Starting point is 01:58:49 to a massive population. Maybe that's what it is. So. All right. Now that is the end of our one regret plus random Shay and Palo Ben Carol Galeigh. Beesles. What are we talking about today for our producer corner? I need a jingle for a producer corner, man. Oh, you have it. Remember the the end of stew? You have it.
Starting point is 01:59:05 Wait, I do. You do. You do. Remember you You gave yourself a theme song last week. Oh. Producer Corner. I don't know. You forgot the draft sound. Oh, oh, oh. I was about to start singing.
Starting point is 01:59:16 That was crazy. Yeah, I think all you might need a refined name. Bring back next to me. I kind of like it. Yeah, that was quite the oral loss. You got to come back next time with the more refined to pick up for it. Producer Corner question of the week. What are your thoughts on boneless wings?
Starting point is 01:59:31 Obviously. And people that eat them. And people that eat them. Now, I know why you're asking this question. And I will say we went to All Star Weekend That was the first trip that we had When Beasol's was there
Starting point is 01:59:42 We went to go get something to eat Beasoles had ordered wings I got boneless wings It was the first trip with Beasoles I wasn't going to say nothing But now that we're here in this moment That was wild And you should never do that again
Starting point is 01:59:54 That was very mentally weak of you Why? Bolesh wings No I actually don't mind balloons wings I do think that everything that the pretentious wing lovers say is true Standard wings are better
Starting point is 02:00:05 and you are probably a worst person for preferring boneless as your default. But I also love some soft-stop chicken nuggets so I can have some respect for it if it's mixed in. If it's your default every time you get that over-regular bone-in wings, I have less respect for you.
Starting point is 02:00:18 But if it's a change-up, I respect your game. Do you guys get tenders at Chick-fil-A? No. No, I never got tenders at Chick-Philling before. Why is that the same? Because there's no bone-in-chicken there? I just think if it doesn't have any bones in it, it's the same shit to me.
Starting point is 02:00:31 No, no. Well, if Chicken-fil-A had wings that were good, so here's a, I don't get, Tenders at Wingstop. Exactly. Exactly. Do you get tenders at Wingsop? Yes.
Starting point is 02:00:41 Oh, you should feel bad. I'm not going to lie. Well, you get tenders at Wings? And boneless wings. Whatever I'm feeling that night. Wow. I do ever get regular wings? Not really?
Starting point is 02:00:51 Rare. It would be performative of me. Yeah, we should judge you a little bit. If you got tenders and boneless wings time to time, I'm cool. I like bonus wings. I don't really get them often, but when somebody gets them,
Starting point is 02:01:01 I'm like, damn, I wish I had that. Yeah. Just because it's like mad convenient. Yeah, sometimes it's nice that. nugget with some sauce. Yeah. Just like, gotta manage bones. That's my biggest thing with bones.
Starting point is 02:01:10 You just want to take straight to the mouth. That's all you want. You want it easy. That's not a pause. I'm just laughing. Okay, okay. I can evit you right. There's a pause if that's the pause to you.
Starting point is 02:01:19 You're ready to go with it. Well, this is telling me a lot about your character. Yes. What is it? I think we can't manage bones. Yeah. I think we can extrapolate this
Starting point is 02:01:27 and some other personality things. Really? Yeah. Like what? I don't know. I think right now. Anything for you to be comfortable. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:01:34 Overall, you prefer in boneless wings Just let me know you take the easy way out Again, what we said about Bob Suterer, he likes a soft life Exactly, I can't eat that. I like Legos. You run away from the grind. Do you run from the grind? I don't run.
Starting point is 02:01:51 Do you walk from the grind? I'm a speedwalk from the grind. Do you brisk me walk from the grind? When I get tired, I'm going to stop. Yeah, we can learn a lot about a guy based on his opinion on bonus wings. You give the grind a chance to catch up. And then I start walking again.
Starting point is 02:02:10 It's not just like, it's not saying you're lazy. That's not exactly what it's saying. It's saying that if there's two good options and one is a little bit better but takes a little bit more effort, you're happy taking the decent option. Some might say that's efficient. Some might say you're leaving meat on the table.
Starting point is 02:02:25 Some might say you're leaving. Some might say that's coat. Some might say putting the extra 5% of effort in in all regards is the difference between regular people and exceptional people. We just spent five hours glazing Shay for his efficiency. Glaze me. Are you too?
Starting point is 02:02:40 He just wanted to say that. He just wants to be glazed. He just asks him for it. He needs glaze. Yeah. Brogo home. Hot honey. Do you feel like you put the extra 5% effort in all regards in life?
Starting point is 02:02:53 I'm not a high honey guy. How honey. It's definitely gas. It's good, but it's definitely, I hate that it's such a default for like every pizza in America. It's getting spam. I don't always like some other. I don't always want. It's good. It's good time to time. It's a little too popular. I bought it in my household for the first time. In the household, I have it too. I bought the extra hot one.
Starting point is 02:03:10 It's going to be good. It's disgusting. You can't give it too hot. That extra hot is too much. It's disgusting. It's it's disgusting. It's just like regular hot honey and extra hot. I thought it would be like a little extra spice. I put red chili peppers on all my pizza. So I want a little spiciness. The extra hot tastes so fucking gross. And that's why the extra hot for who or for what? Like, why why are you trying to prove something with extra hot? I like spiciness. If it tastes it good, I'd be with it. But the But the peel is the honey part. Yeah. Yeah, you're right. It throws off the balance.
Starting point is 02:03:36 I thought it would still be sweet, but a little more heat. It just tastes like fucking hobanero. It's gross. Extra hot, extra sweet. I wanted regular sweet. Sometimes it's a little too sweet for me. Yeah. As I've gotten older, I don't always want to be crazy sweet.
Starting point is 02:03:47 So I wanted to tilt more towards hot. It tilts way too far. That's the biggest thing that they don't tell you about getting older. The sweetness is like, I'll leave that off. I leave it off. I still like sweets. I can, like, you can like sweets. But then there's stuff where you see it and you just know that's too sweet.
Starting point is 02:04:02 For it is for me, I turn 25, I still like sweets. I still crave it. For a regular item that's a little bit sweet or not sweet at all, I don't want that to be sweet. Like coffee, I don't want sweet-ass Dunkin' Donuts coffee anymore. I want to be a little more bitter. I'll still eat cookies and I want that to be sweet. But even then, like I hate crumble. It's way too sweet.
Starting point is 02:04:17 You said what? Like what? What is your coffee order? A latte? A sweet latte. See, I don't want like a Starbucks latte. That's why I'm boogey with coffee. I don't want it to be too sweet.
Starting point is 02:04:27 See, I'm kind of lean. I'm starting to lean towards that side a little bit more where like it's even extended past the sweet and the coffee stuff. Sometimes when it goes in my food, I just want something very normal. I don't want no crazy season. Sometimes I'm in the mood for just,
Starting point is 02:04:39 I just want to taste the actual food as is, right. I understand that. We've done three producer corners, two of them in my mouth food. You gotta get more versatile. When we start the food pod, man. The food podcast.
Starting point is 02:04:51 Like one of the last producer cores, though the last producer quarter than the Kiel had, we were eating wings here. Remember that? Oh yeah, dude, that got corrupted. We couldn't post that. Fuck.
Starting point is 02:04:59 No, don't know that. That was the day the video files all messed up. and it took me like 12 hours to save it. We lost that completely. Damn. That was tough. Lost wings fly was tough.
Starting point is 02:05:08 Yep. Were they bone in? Of course. Yeah. Yes, we don't. Of course. Every day I,
Starting point is 02:05:13 we don't operate in. And that's the thing. Okay, so that's the thing. You could eat boneless wings. If you were to bring me wings and you brought me like in the same way that scenario somebody brought us wings, if you were to bring me boneless when I say wings, I lose all respect for you because you don't have respect for me.
Starting point is 02:05:24 Yeah, yeah. I would definitely ask. I know what I'm going to ask. You should know. If you ask, you don't respect me. I'm just saying there's more boneless guys in the world, so I've got to ask for courtesy purposes. But you should know I'm not one of those guys. Easy out.
Starting point is 02:05:39 Sure. Boning guy, not boning guy. Okay. Hey, we can do that. I don't go a lot. You can give me a group of men that I know. We can get to the bottom of this. Miles Turner, bone in.
Starting point is 02:05:54 No, bone out, bone out. Yeah, yeah, bone out. For sure. MPJ? Oh, boned. Bone in, but he eats the bone. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He chomps on the bone.
Starting point is 02:06:08 He's the bone. There's one bite. What's LeBron? Oh, he's... LeBron is also bone in and eating the bone. Yeah. Yeah. No, I think he's two performers to eat the bone.
Starting point is 02:06:29 I think he, like, has good etiquette. He's not wasting anything. Wait, do y'all have this take with fish? Like, oh, because I'm a man, I got to eat fish with bones in it. No, it's very different. One, I don't like fish. So I'm removed myself from this. But I've done, I mean, I do both sometimes.
Starting point is 02:06:44 It's not about manliness for the bone. The bone in meat is significantly higher quality. It's much better. Oh, is that what it is? Yeah. So the meat is much better on a bonying wing. So the extra effort is worth it in quality and enjoyment. Yeah, the bone is actually added.
Starting point is 02:06:55 You thought I just wanted to show I like bones? You thought it was about. I swear, that's how people get it off. Oh, because I'm a man. I want bones in my chicken. No, it's... I swear that's what this conversation has always been about to me. You're not more of a man to me.
Starting point is 02:07:10 It's because you like bones in your fucking chicken wings. No, you're not a man. It proves that you're willing to work hard for a better experience. Okay, I mean, I can see that. Yeah, I can see that. Yeah, the end outcome is better, so I'm willing to put up effort for it. I just thought y'all. I swear, it's just...
Starting point is 02:07:25 Oh, bones, man. Round bones. Eat bone, I'm mad. A man, a man, eat bone, lady eat nuggets.
Starting point is 02:07:40 You're a funny guy, man. That was backhanded. I saw it in his eyes. Funny guy. I don't know what he's asserting, but it wasn't, that wasn't true. That's why I got hired.
Starting point is 02:07:52 For your boneless wing opinions. Yes. Do that alone. And what that being said, that is our thing is our bonus wings. That is our boneless wings. That is our boneless wings. on this wing discourse.
Starting point is 02:08:01 We'll be alerted to a two about our psyches. And how it applies to wing orders. Let's get on the TikTok time. That's funny. Welcome to TikTok time. Today as usual, we are going to begin with a draft. We're going to do a draft format
Starting point is 02:08:17 we haven't done in like a month or two. We're going to do a keep or sabotage draft. If you guys are familiar with how this works, we will draw a random player. And depending on whose turn it is, you will decide if you want to keep that player for your team or give it to someone else's team if it's a bad player you do not want.
Starting point is 02:08:32 Let's do it. So we have 15 random players here to choose from. We're going to spin it and see who goes first. Or actually, it's me. Mo Donovan is a drop order. All right. Who's up first? We get,
Starting point is 02:08:43 oh, Terry Rozier. Hey, he gets to the bread, bro. He gets to the money. The good version? The little criminal version. The current day version. He gets to the money regardless of us. I'm going to give the felon to Mo.
Starting point is 02:08:56 Okay. Well, shit. What got my Terry Rozier? All right, fuck, let's do it. What a start to your team. Thank God to keep for sabotage draft. All right. Well, damn, how is he?
Starting point is 02:09:09 He shouldn't even be here because you're not in the league right now. Oh, I think it's all time. There's all time. He's now an all time player. You know what? The best version of Terror is here? I like it. Peak Terry Rozier was a problem.
Starting point is 02:09:22 Yeah, he was decent for the horns back in what, 2021? Now he's a problem for himself. All right. Who does Mer get? Let's see. Keep or trade Keep or trade I got Shaq
Starting point is 02:09:36 Oh, I don't want to give him to Donovan Shut up Do you want to give him to Isaac Or should I let him Be a part of the Terroria era Hey don't if you let Prime Shack around Terrier as a bad influence I might not go well for him Listen Shaq welcome to my team I guess
Starting point is 02:09:51 You give Prime Shack Fandle today Oh man he might run up a muck You got a crazy locker and went on right now Yeah, give me Shaq. Spin that wheel. All right, who does Moe? What's Donovan get? Palo Van Garo again.
Starting point is 02:10:10 Yo, that's your man. I get Palo? Yeah, I can do worse. Yeah, take Palo. Listen, I get Palo's been on a tear. I'll take him. He's been good. I get any version I want.
Starting point is 02:10:19 I want March 26 Palo Van Carrel. He's been killing it. Nothing more. Specifically. Okay. All right, Domvin, your turn again. Hell you. I'm surprised you didn't want him.
Starting point is 02:10:29 No, I did want to. Oh, Isaac Banga. Yeah. Come on, man. Why am I getting Isaac Bongo? The Isaac Banga, Terry, was your combo. It's a scary sight. Take Banga.
Starting point is 02:10:41 I got Isaac Bonga, shack in terrors. And you stay with Isaac Bonga. That's your man. I hope he's in every draft we do forever. Listen, man, I thought you were going to gang up on Isaac for his sins, bro. That's it. For my sins. What did I do?
Starting point is 02:10:53 Fuck, bro. Last draft, you cheated, bro. I cheated. Yes. Why did I cheated? with the balloon shit. Oh, no, so I'll think about that. We had to make it so only 15 players
Starting point is 02:11:02 for the next balloon one. So the last player was not was last. I saw a comment that was right. With the principle of whenever we all pop them, the person who's last gets a player, I should just get the next player. But if there's multiple players, I obviously get the right to pop my balloon.
Starting point is 02:11:16 So we have to do only 15 players. So if you're last, you'd get the last guy. That kind of dissuade you from being last. You kind of got James Wiseman. Yeah, exactly. See, next time we do it, we'll only do 15 players. Yeah, he was too shameless.
Starting point is 02:11:27 I wasn't even shameless. I was just like, we didn't talk about it. You were saying. Well, I mean, how would I supposed to know? I can't pop my balloon now. I mean, technically, I can keep popping. Right? Like, why wouldn't I be able to?
Starting point is 02:11:36 Hi, Eric, Spolster. God, dude. Spolster. That's true. Okay. Who's my next guy? Please give me someone usable. If not, give me someone terrible.
Starting point is 02:11:48 Oh, B pods. And I got B pods. Too long. Let me guess. I get B pods. Oh, man. You know, Diamond has no players.
Starting point is 02:11:56 You didn't have to give me power. Or you didn't have to give me Terrorizier, and that's not like the worst player. You got Terry, you got Potts. Let's go, I'm a good guy for getting Terry Rozier. Yeah. I think Bogg is just like a death sentence. Like, I have no chance of being good for real. Almost on.
Starting point is 02:12:11 You have a chance of being good. He's big. Yeah, man. You can be good. He's a good guy. Come on. I didn't deserve that. You could, you can recover from Isaac Bongger.
Starting point is 02:12:19 I got dead signs. All right. My dynasty is about to start. Yep. Next time. Who I got? This is funny. Let's see.
Starting point is 02:12:28 Oh, B pods again. Do you want to repeats? No. Okay. Smith it again. No repeats. Maybe we should have kept it. A team of B pods.
Starting point is 02:12:37 Fuck. Yeah, this one doesn't make them out. A team of Bipods. That's what's the diabolical. Steph Curry. Let's go. Give me Steph on my team. Steff and Paolo was quite the start.
Starting point is 02:12:48 That's so weird. Okay. It is weird, but we can make it work. Hit it again. All right. Where are we going? Jalen Dirt. Hell yeah, give me J.Lendurn on my team.
Starting point is 02:12:59 Oh, my gosh. What a turn. You should have gave me B-Puzz and you had the chance. Ah, man, okay. Okay, okay, okay. That's fun. That's my turn. Paulo, Stephender.
Starting point is 02:13:07 I have nobody except for me. I know. I know. Okay. Who do I, God. Who do you want to bless me with? Shangoon. Ooh, my spacing is crying right now.
Starting point is 02:13:19 Shangoon between Bong and Shack. Elbows to elbows. Oh my God. Welcome. Shangoon is on your team, Isaac. My team? Yep. I didn't consider you do that
Starting point is 02:13:30 At the two right Yeah I guess Palo's my three And Shangoon's my power forward Oh shit man Yo the shooting your team is superb The two All right back to back spins
Starting point is 02:13:45 Power four is Shangoon centered Can I get a player I can make it work No no I can spin Ha ha Can't get stuff Can I get another player Rick Barry
Starting point is 02:13:55 Nice Yo, give me Rick Perry. He's never said that before in this one. He's never before mentioned in our drafts, legend. He's a Hooper. Team chemistry is in the gutter. Between you and B-pods?
Starting point is 02:14:09 Yeah, but he's a hoop-paw. Why, B-Pos want to deferred to Big Berry? Come on. I remember Carson told him big Barry's a racist. Really? Yeah, remember Carson told us he was on the show. I didn't know stories. Whites with attitude.
Starting point is 02:14:18 I didn't know that. WWA. WAA in the team? Give me a player. Another white, please. Ah, no. Damn. Come on, please.
Starting point is 02:14:31 Another white. We need it. Andrew Wiggins. Andrew Wiggins. Not too bad. You could do better, though. But it's like, this is a gamble right now. He wants Wiggins.
Starting point is 02:14:42 I'll take him. Hell yeah. You do better. Give me him. Shit, I would take him. Yeah, I mean, you know what? You're done. Take Wiggins.
Starting point is 02:14:50 I get Wiggins? Yeah. Okay, so Wiggins is my two, and then Pallas is my three. She's my four. These are three. Whatever. right where you'd like mispositionless basketball
Starting point is 02:14:59 okay honestly it's kind of a good team I'm not gonna lie Palo can shoot threes but he can't yeah we'll see I got this week's Palo Bancaro specifically
Starting point is 02:15:08 yeah I never seen team I never seen team circle like that before that's so weird but Curry heals a lot yeah curries I just want to I just want to cap you off
Starting point is 02:15:18 okay so that there's not like another star that when we do these shit I spin as well and decide who gets it when it's my turn on the thing
Starting point is 02:15:26 or you two to take turn spinning? I think we just take turns to me. So I shouldn't spin? Yeah. Do you think it's funny? Should I be able to decide who gets a player? Ah, okay. I see that element.
Starting point is 02:15:35 What's the better wrinkle? Subjectively. Yeah, go ahead. Okay. Yeah, you're done. Mo's your turn. Okay. Who do?
Starting point is 02:15:42 Damn, this thing looks during, man. Holy shit. Who doesn't? Todd Gibson! Yeah, you got Uncle Todd. Congrats. I don't need him on my team. Okay.
Starting point is 02:15:52 Todd. I can do better. Next to Rick Berry. You know how to keep a job, man. All right. Who am I deciding goes to who? Christophe's Porzing.
Starting point is 02:16:01 Amen. Ooh, you need spacing. You cannot have him. Donovan, welcome K.P. next to Todd Gibson. Taz and K.
Starting point is 02:16:07 Not too bad. Rig Barry. That's nasty. What type of basketball are you playing? It's kind of working out. Ah, who's the next? Your fate is in my hand,
Starting point is 02:16:15 Donovan. I can feel like your shooting guard position. Oh, free spin. Yeah. Shack. Shack. Go away.
Starting point is 02:16:21 Played it too. Who we got. Oh, Alonzo, Jrier. That's kind of a. That's kind of a dream come true. Put tree at the one, put B pods at the two. I haven't decided if I want to give him to you yet.
Starting point is 02:16:31 You're pretty excited to get it along so true. Dude, give it to him. That's a dream come true. He's happy. He's a next fan. Now you can have Terry Rozier, Bonger, and Truers hysterical. No. Shack is dealing with fucking idiots.
Starting point is 02:16:40 Butcher at the shooting car. Shack is carrying middle schoolers. I'm crying, man. All right, well, your turn. Okay. Let's see who's up next. This hurts. Oh, Stefan Castle
Starting point is 02:16:56 Okay Yeah, it's not bad You're keeping them? Yeah, okay Yeah Good defender You have absolutely zero shooting I've seen him pass to Wemby
Starting point is 02:17:11 That's all I need Shack is right there True, he's a good lawthor Exactly All right, who's my last player Terror is the only good day Is a good shooter too I'm fine
Starting point is 02:17:19 Oh, keep spinning I There's only one player left on here So we got to spin it I've seen this face. The last player is Jager Reddick. Oh. Yep, it's Jager Reddick.
Starting point is 02:17:30 So you want to keep spinning forever. Yeah. Okay, Jage's not bad. Yeah, not too bad. B-Pods, Reddick, Barry, Tage, KP, WWA, and then Taj. You're not ready. That's hilarious.
Starting point is 02:17:45 And then Taz is chilling. Yeah, this is normally like a team that you construct, but this is not good. So I have Steph Curry, Andrew Wiggins. Alperin Shangoon and Jalen Duren. Terrier's, my one. Coming in my two, Alonzo Trier, bring him back to the league ASAP. Isaac Bongo, locking shit down in my three.
Starting point is 02:18:06 Then on my four and five, I got Stefan Castle and Shaq. I have B-Paz at my one, Steph Curry. Then I have J. J. J. Redick at my two, knockdown shooter. Rigberry at my three, do it all forward. He's going to carry my team. Tides Gibson at the four. Lockdown defender. brings the attitude and then KP at the five giving me stretch five shooting and defense could have
Starting point is 02:18:30 been finals MVP I'm going okay so Mo versus Donovan who wins in a seven game actually one game series dude shack is murdering shack's hard to deal with but KP and Taj like you can do worse in terms of shack defense who's guarding who's guarding who's guarding Rick oh i think bonga could probably guard Rick just a body we played 30 40 years ago actually 50 years ago I got stephan Castle can guard him. He'd give Bongo buckets. It's the Fong Castle can go. In reality, like, it was a time machine, probably not.
Starting point is 02:18:59 Yeah, no. Bongo wouldn't even know about basketball, but wasn't for Redbury. Damn, you can defend Shaq a little bit. Oh, you're on your team sucks. I'm sorry, Mo wins. I got the Fon Castle. Taylor's going to be good. Mo wins.
Starting point is 02:19:12 These whites are getting dunked on. No matter how hard you try to cook me, I still prevailed. Yeah, yeah. You survived Alonzo Trrier. Surviving Trrier. Don't do my guy like that. A docke you. I'm doing like that.
Starting point is 02:19:27 Surviving Trir. Oh my God. He doesn't deserve it. Next thing we are going to do. LeBron! We are here today. The test are LeBron knowledge. We have several LeBron James
Starting point is 02:19:38 related trivia questions that Bees Sals has put together. We all get a point based on who gets it right first. There will be four opposite to every question. We've got to decide what answer you want to go with. We've got to see who puts together the most LeBron James correct answers. Wait? LeBron!
Starting point is 02:19:52 LeBron! Got to meet my ringtone, man. That's your alarm. That'd be a good alarm. That's terrifying. I'd never oversleep. All right. First question.
Starting point is 02:20:05 What establishment was the location of LeBron and Savannah's very first date? See, the McDonald's are outback, I think. I'm going to say McDonald's. It's certainly not no boo. He's from Cleveland. McDonald's be funny. Outback, maybe he got a little fancy. He's already getting money in high school, you know.
Starting point is 02:20:21 You're right. He is getting money. He was six foot nine. Outback Steakhouse. Okay. I think LeBron has a cheap gimmick and he probably told the story as McDonald's.
Starting point is 02:20:29 Whether it's true or not. I'm gonna go McDonald's. That's fair. I had McDonald's. The correct answer. Allegedly, you could be lying about this too is Outback Steakhouse.
Starting point is 02:20:38 I think I knew that. I didn't go my gut. I think I remember that story. I don't know why. I forget he had money back then. I said one of my gut. But the McDonald's thing made too much sense for his gimmicks.
Starting point is 02:20:46 I'm too easily. I'm too easily. It's hilarious. I know. I think I remember him telling the story. It made sense. Yeah. I think I remember the Outback thing, though.
Starting point is 02:20:54 All right. Next. Who was the teammate that recorded the assist on LeBron's first basket? Ooh, Ricky Davis, I think. I have no clue. I think, I think, Ricky Davis or Dary Smiles. I'm going to say Darius Miles. I have to look up the footage yesterday and still have to zoom in.
Starting point is 02:21:10 It's like, who is that? Yeah, I think it's Ricky Davis because he, because, you're probably right. He came off of the screen. You've seen his first assist? His first. No, the team. He made that. Oh,
Starting point is 02:21:23 yeah. The teammate that's a jump saw right. Yeah, it's Ricky Davis. Yeah, it was a jumper. He was coming off.
Starting point is 02:21:29 Yeah. Ricky Davis for screen. Correct. Yeah, Darius Miles was in point guard duties. It is Ricky Davis. Cool.
Starting point is 02:21:35 Okay. Next up. In 2015, LeBron walked away from a guaranteed $15 million endorsement deal with McDonald's to invest heavily
Starting point is 02:21:43 in which fast food casual D. Blaze pizza. It's Blaze Pizza. I know he wins Blaze Pizza. He had to walk away from McDonald's?
Starting point is 02:21:50 Probably. Allegedly. $15 million endorsement deal. It's quite a lot to walk away from. Blaze Pizza is going bankrupt right now. Is it? It is. It wasn't a good deal.
Starting point is 02:21:59 They're closing shops left and right. Have you had Blaise Pizza before? I think I had it one time. At a one time. We'd never walk in there again. Probably not either. Go go Blaze Pizza. It is Blaze Pizza.
Starting point is 02:22:09 I remember the marketing behind this, the big push. Oh, LePron James is a pizza spot. Tis mid. My sister worked there. Damn, did she like it? She liked the job. Food was mid.
Starting point is 02:22:20 Next. What? European sports franchises LeBron actually hold a real financial statement. Liverpool. What is AFC Richmond? I've never heard of that team before. I don't know ball like that. FC Richmond is a fake team.
Starting point is 02:22:37 It's like they got relegated or? No. It's from Ted Lasson. That's funny. That one. I do think it is Liverpool. It is Liverpool. It is Liverpool.
Starting point is 02:22:52 that's funny so LeBron was so ridiculously dominant in high school that he actually petitioned the NBA to let him do what
Starting point is 02:23:01 Forst draft one of his high school team medals that would be some gall to be like I'm so good I'm bringing my guys with me
Starting point is 02:23:09 Give him an NBA contract Draft Rich Paul Enter the NBA Drafts the high school Junior Play D league games while in high school
Starting point is 02:23:16 Pick the team that drafted him I don't know about this one I think it's it's either a C or D? I was thinking C or B. B is impossible, but I was thinking maybe he has some audacity
Starting point is 02:23:27 he just asked for it. I don't think anybody would ever say, yeah, let me pick the team. Yeah, that's nasty. We haven't even heard that type of Yeah, I'm saying. I mean, clearly they said no to all this. So B, maybe he asked for it and they were like, shut up. I'm gonna say the most reasonable one. You probably asked for A. I'll go C. It's probably C. I'm gonna go B because that'd be very funny. But it's probably C.
Starting point is 02:23:49 It is C. Yeah. It is C. That makes sense. That's logical. Like, I'm ahead of schedule. You know, that's a good PR move. If you're out there as a most popular prospect, to know you're going to be told no, but to ask it and get a new story out there that LeBron James wants to come in as a junior, good marketing. Ask David Stern. I'm going to pick the team. Yeah. That's crazy. He killed. In 2003, when David Stern is at his peak. Yeah. Peeke's at his peak. 59 to David Stern. Yeah. He's not letting that go.
Starting point is 02:24:20 there. D.O.Y D.P.O.W. David. Next. What position did LeBron play in football when he played in high school? Wide receiver. Wait, what's he? It is a wide receiver. He was a wide receiver. He was a wide receiver running up that side line. 50 touchdowns a year.
Starting point is 02:24:36 He was Calvin Johnson with four more inches on him. Okay, okay, okay. Yeah. Five more inches on him. His wide receiver, and he also was all pro. Seven inches on him. Crazy. Next. Next. The chosen one moniker.
Starting point is 02:24:50 originally come from before he got it permanently inked. The cover Sports Illustrated, Savannah's nickname. A Fortune Cookie. That would be so great. His mom, Gloria. A, B and C, all kind of makes sense. B and C makes sense. I feel like A is the answer.
Starting point is 02:25:04 D would be funny as fuck. A fortune cookie. I'm going to go ahead and say probably B. I don't think any mom is calling their kid the chosen one. No, mom could be like that, yeah. But that verbage. They'll say like the little hype of the kid, but the chosen one,
Starting point is 02:25:17 yeah. That feels very on the nose. It feels lame. to call your kid there. LeVar would do it. LeVar is insane. He's not, he's not the precedent for anybody.
Starting point is 02:25:26 When you're supposed to LeBron, you can't be insane. It's not disrespect to see LeVar is insane. You said it in a disparaging way. We're going to prop for LeVar. I have no idea. Because the cover of Sports Illustrated. It can't be savagic name.
Starting point is 02:25:40 If you call your partner the chosen one. I know, that's SOD. That's even worse than the mom. I think it's the mom. I'm going to say. I was say his mom said it. I'm going to say. I think he got from Sports Illustrated cover.
Starting point is 02:25:51 I will believe that, too. I can't remember. I can't remember if it was already tatted before the Sports Illustrated cover. So I'm going to say his mom. I'm just imagining like anyone's significant other calling them that shows. I'm like, ew. You get it. It's the egg for show.
Starting point is 02:26:08 Why is my girlfriend glazing me? Why is my girlfriend glazing me? She thinks of the greatest. What's wrong with her, right? It's got to be it. Yes, it is. It makes sense. All right, next up, next up.
Starting point is 02:26:24 LeBron finally got ejected for the first time in his NBA career in November 2017 against the heat. Who was the referee that threw him out? Joey Crawford. Remember that? No. I'm going to say Tony Brothers. Oh, I'll go Scott Foster because everything Scott Foster does leads to people hating him. I'm going to think that LeBron is banded together with Chris Paul for mutual hatred of Mr. Foster.
Starting point is 02:26:47 Watch it be Kane Fitzgerald. I don't even remember what he looks like. Same. It is Kane Fitzgerald. Oh, I remember him. Oh, that's Kenny Fitzgerald. Okay. I never knew his name.
Starting point is 02:26:55 I've seen him a thousand times. I never knew his name. There's just one referee I see at the games all the time. And I'm like, yo, you're the referee from 2K. Nice. He's like, yep. Next. What was LeBron's highest rated TV NBA finals game?
Starting point is 02:27:11 Surely it's 2016 game seven. It probably has. Oh, but 2018 game won, a 3P3 in a row. 2013 games? all of these it makes sense because 2011 that's when the NBA was really banding around the Hedles thing. Yeah, that viewership might have been crazy. You know what?
Starting point is 02:27:28 2011 game 7 TV viewership as an industry has been on the decline. I bet it was the older has the highest viewership. So you're saying 2013? Oh, you're saying, wow. I'm going to say 20. It's D or B. I don't, I'm not, I would want to believe it's
Starting point is 02:27:45 2018, but it's not because I think that's when like the whole TV stuff. We get our macroeconomics understanding. of the media industry here. Exactly. Yeah, everybody was, it's either B or D. 2018, everybody was tired of Cab's Warriors. Exactly.
Starting point is 02:27:58 So I don't think it's 28. But game one. Game one, probably that juice. People were still just upset that it was like, oh, yeah. Here we go again because they were gonna get swept anyways. It was water down too. They got eliminated in 2011 game six, right? Yes.
Starting point is 02:28:11 Okay, I think people got up to see the heat is get eliminated. It has to be D. Yeah, I think it's D. 20, I'll go 2013 B. All right, you guys massively overthought this. it is 2016 massive overthinking the first second
Starting point is 02:28:26 we said 2016 game seven and we convinced ourselves every reason it's not massive overthink damn we don't know shit I wonder with the numbers are because I feel like 2011 had to be close
Starting point is 02:28:35 2016 from when I looked it was like 31 million viewers I think the lowest one from this was I think it was 2011 game 6th damn whoa damn no shit for real damn we don't know anything yeah I'm I'm gonna look afterwards
Starting point is 02:28:47 but I'm All right, this is the last question. What time did the decision air on ESPN? Had to be earlier the day. They had, didn't they? It wasn't like a Boys and Gold Club? Exactly. So they had kids outside.
Starting point is 02:29:00 No, but it was, it was, I'm going to say 8 p.m. Because they had an hour leading show going into the decision. The decision pregame show. So I don't, so I don't think that they're going to, they're not going to put it at 6 p.m. Because what they, listen, you want to talk about old, old time TV program. Okay. 6 p.m. is not going to happen. They're going to have the 6 p.m. Sports Center.
Starting point is 02:29:22 That's like, that's law. Okay. So you have 6 p.m. sports center going into the hour-long NBA countdown. So that's going to take you from 6 to 7. And then from 7 to 8 is going to be the thing. Oh, he's going to be. So 6 p.m. Sports Center.
Starting point is 02:29:38 So I'm going to say 8 p.m. Eastern. We're rolling with right, man. 8 p.m. Eastern. Okay. I think it's. I think the thinking was right. 9 p.m. Eastern.
Starting point is 02:29:47 It was wrong conclusion. It was 9 p. I got it. I was a beer. Fake Valor. No, you're processing. Yeah, I thought it was 8 p.m.
Starting point is 02:29:55 Eastern. I believed you. Last time I believed you were in. They had before. You probably were exactly right in the process. It was just a week. It was just an hour later.
Starting point is 02:30:01 Yeah. I never seen a LeBron's review like this, man. I need to get back in the lap. 6 p. Okay. That's the reason. Now I got to look at the 2011 ESPN programming.
Starting point is 02:30:14 No, he was going off a central time. That's what it was. No. No, no, it's the 6 p.m. program because they do it 6 p.m. on Easton time zone. It's in Bristol. I think it's a safe base for you. Should I give you an out, but you want to take it?
Starting point is 02:30:28 It's okay. The next thing we're going to do, we are going to try to guess the NBA player we're looking at by their jump shot. We've done this once before. I was absolutely terrible at it. I think if I remember correctly, Moe Hard carried us. Now we have B. Souls. Let's see how many of these we can get right. Which player are you looking at to begin?
Starting point is 02:30:45 They all look like Joel and B. Every time I'm done. Beed? Like, yeah, they all look like Joila. I see it. My problem was last time. The outline makes them all like skinnier than they are. So I always see Jada McDaniels. Sometimes I see Malik Munk too much. Like honestly, the last time
Starting point is 02:30:59 like every time I said J. McDaniels. I see Jada McDaniels. That high jumper, that has to be Jada McDaniels. I'm seeing, see, but they're walking into a three. This is a guard. This is a smaller guy. Wait, no. No. Is this cat? No. It's not cat. He gets a little bit too high off the ground.
Starting point is 02:31:16 I was seeing Scotty Barnes. Oh, I guess it's hard because they look skinny. We can't pay attention to the body type. Scotty Barnes, I could see that. Okay, we can get Scottie Barnes. That little gather dribble kind of looks Scottie-ish. It's not Scotty Barnes, but I could see that. We can guess that and then go from there with the hands.
Starting point is 02:31:30 Oh, it is Scottie Barnes. Oh, here we go. All right. All right, he knows so. Okay. All right. Look at that. There we go.
Starting point is 02:31:38 Trust your teammates, fellas. Special random player. Yes. I never would have guessed that, but once you said it, it was okay, it makes sense. We'll give you a guess. I thought you're wrong. Oh, my goodness. Okay.
Starting point is 02:31:47 Slow dribbles That is Anthony Davis That is clearly Anthony Davis I know that Oh it is yep it is I know that elbow be sent up for way too long And that's modern Anthony Davis When he's really slow
Starting point is 02:31:57 Yep Yeah I knew it Dallas Yeah Dallas Anthony Davis I knew it His slow ass handle That is that's hilarious Kobe
Starting point is 02:32:05 No my bad Bam Topical Ew who is this Oh Catch and shoot Catch and shoot Oh wait that looks familiar
Starting point is 02:32:16 It kind of looks like Game? No. David Jason. It is Ryan Robb. It feels like a wing to it. I don't think this is a guard. This guy has long arms.
Starting point is 02:32:27 Yeah, because he's not bringing the ball super down. But he is dipping. Not super far, though. Who's shooting like this, man? I thought it was Tatum, but he didn't have that hitch. Yeah, and it's not bad at him. No. Kind of like Andrew Nemhart a little bit.
Starting point is 02:32:39 It kind of faded a little bit. Could it be? Don't even Chenzo? Tristan De Silva, maybe. Would that be a pull? Lo key, Dante is not a bad guess. I kind of think Don't know. No, it's not Dante.
Starting point is 02:32:48 Dante, like, he fires him. He has a lot of power in his side. Okay. Yeah, this is a, it's a smooth shot. I, we have to get a guess on the board and then kind of go from there. I wouldn't be super upset with a Dante guess. Throw it on. Okay, we'll see where we go.
Starting point is 02:33:01 It's probably wrong. Let's get some guests, get some hints in. Okay, what does that say? USA born shooting guard. USA born shooting guard. Okay. So they're in the west, but they're not in that division. So we're looking at Pacific Division and we're looking at Southwest.
Starting point is 02:33:17 USA born Southwest or Pacific shooting guard So don't think it's a Laker Shoot it's all hard This is hard This is not better than math What does Keegan Murray shoot like? Gabe Vincent He's that hell nah
Starting point is 02:33:33 Oh, is it two Yeah okay I missed that okay Yeah it's a shooting guard Oh shooting guard okay Dalton Connett Is this Ryan Dunn? Is it B-pods? Hell nah
Starting point is 02:33:43 We gotta find We gotta figure out something in terms of division. Okay, do B pods, then we'll know the division. Okay. Brandon Pajamsky, come to me. Even though that it's a right-hand shooter. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:33:55 Oh, is he left-handed? I didn't even know that. You got nothing. No. Not Pacific. Okay, but that lets us know South, no, Northwest Division. There's two more.
Starting point is 02:34:06 Southwest. Southwest. Southwest Division. Much of me? What? In the West, there's... There's three divisions. There's three.
Starting point is 02:34:12 Yeah, you're thinking of the NFL is four. Okay. Southwest Division. So this could be someone on... The Phoenix Suns is what this is telling me. No. No. No.
Starting point is 02:34:19 They're... Wrong division. So we're talking rockets, spurs, grislies, pelicans, mavs. Tajerone. Don't... Dornie Finney Smith? This could be... This could be him.
Starting point is 02:34:33 I think this might be him. DFS. He's not a two. Oh, you're right. It's a two. God, keep forgetting. He's a two. We're thinking about guards.
Starting point is 02:34:38 Okay. There's no one on this first. I think I tap out. I don't know. There's not Julian Champagne. It's not Clay. It's not Clay. I don't know who...
Starting point is 02:34:45 Wait. Clay. Is it clay? That's clay. Oh, that's clay. That's clay. Okay. Let's see.
Starting point is 02:34:54 Yeah. Okay. That makes sense. Did you make this shot? Yeah, he did, of course. It shows of Mitch would be hilarious. Okay. Sometimes I think they show miss it.
Starting point is 02:35:06 Oh, this is Ogy and Anobi. Oh, this is Donovan Mitchell. Is it Donovan Mitchell or Ogy and O'G? There's not OG. That hand up looks like Donovan Mitchell. Does he do that thing with his foot where he said to word? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:35:15 Donovan Mitchell it is. Like a B. Souls with an instant print. Come on, man. Imagine Donald McQuilgin. Donovan. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:35:25 The follow-through, you can tell. It's the leg. See, OG does the same thing, too, where he, instead of, like, leaving his hands straight, he just curses the side always. He does. But OG, OG jumps whenever, like, whenever he's, like, holding a pose. Big man. Wembañama.
Starting point is 02:35:38 He's straight emo. Victor Wemba. That bill has to be Wembe. No, this guy, don't be shooting like that. Or is it K. Is he's one B? No. No.
Starting point is 02:35:46 He's kind of, he's kind of lurching, though. I'm seeing him again, man. There's someone who's It's something huge. But it doesn't seem like he's overly
Starting point is 02:35:55 Is he moving like? Yeah, right. It's not one of me. He also looks kind of thick. Maybe a loose jersey. Yeah, I see he has like some type of Porzingis.
Starting point is 02:36:03 No, it's such a slow jumper. Yeah, not Pusingerus. Throw? I swear that's in Bid. Go for it. This could be Thomas Bryant. Honestly. Chase your heart.
Starting point is 02:36:12 If you think it's Embed in B, go draw, and bead. Almost. 30 but 31 center he's 31 years old 31 years old but he's in the west it's not yokech uh briclobes is too old 31 center so like 2014 draft class which joll and bade was who is 31 center in the west no it can't be found shoes is too slow he doesn't move side to side like that yeah it's not brook Lopez hell not the thing for me is like he's leaning forward it but he is super lanky
Starting point is 02:36:42 he's relocating off ball so let me move around the perimeter so it's not like a brooklyn Lopez, Valchunas type. They're not going to be moving like that. He don't shoot threes like that. This guy don't shoot three. Well, he's doing it. So, like, he does it a little bit at least. Maybe.
Starting point is 02:36:54 Maybe. Now, Lauren. Now, Warriors. It looks like Pascal Seaccom, but it's not. Warriors, sons, Lakers, clippers.
Starting point is 02:37:06 I'm saying all these. Yeah, I don't know why you're saying, do you don't know. I'm cooked. I'm cooked. 31-year-old bigs I shoot three. That actually shouldn't be that hard.
Starting point is 02:37:14 It's still in the league. Presumable. Miles turns not 31, is he? No. Can we? He's not, he's not 31, but I just want to put a book Lopez just so that we can put a name down.
Starting point is 02:37:25 Okay. But definitely no, I want to see the, if we could hit on the division. Well, we already knew he was in the west. So not Pacific at least. Yes.
Starting point is 02:37:36 Yeah, not Pacific. So we have two divisions. So we have Northwest, we have Southwest. Shooting Big Man in the Northwest and the Southwest. Fuck, it's come. That's somewhat old. Fuck.
Starting point is 02:37:49 No, it's not, fuck. It kind of looks like chat, but it's obviously not Che is not 31. Yeah. It's not Hartinstein. He's in two threes. Unless he did. He's lefty though. Okay.
Starting point is 02:37:57 I never remember who's lefty and who's righty. Who? 31 year old center. That's very, we're in hell right now. Let's off the names again, Donovan. That was helping me. In terms of like the teams? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:38:11 That like, okay, so we know he's in the West, not Pacific. Yeah. So the teams that we would have would be. would be spurs. Spurs, rockets. I was going to say, Doc Long, the ways on the Hawksdon.
Starting point is 02:38:20 Pelicans, Mabs. And then the Northwest would be the nuggets, the blazers, the thunder, the jazz. This could be someone
Starting point is 02:38:30 on the Blazers. Somebody else that I'm missing right now, but it's okay. Nirk. Yusuf Nerkich. Fuck it. Let's try it.
Starting point is 02:38:37 Yusuf Nerkich. We're cooked, we're cooked, talk to me, Nerkich. Oh, there we go. Yes.
Starting point is 02:38:43 You said the jazz. You said the jazz. There we go. 31? You thought he was older? Yeah. I was crazy. The footage is from like two years ago.
Starting point is 02:38:51 I thought that he was much older than this. Oh, okay. I probably would have guessed like 33. Okay. Yeah, as soon as you said jazz, I was like, oh, I see it.
Starting point is 02:39:02 Ooh. I see Jamie Daniels every time. I'm not going to lie. You might be right about this one. Jamie Daniels? Can I finally get my Jamie Daniels pool to come together? I think you're right about this.
Starting point is 02:39:13 Everywhere I look, I see Jamie Daniels and I do not see it here. Anthony Edwards. Yep. This happened was last time. It's a... I thought it was
Starting point is 02:39:18 Anthony Edwards. It's aunt. Yep. Yeah. The way he's back in the way. It's aunt. It's Anthony Edwards. There we go.
Starting point is 02:39:25 He looks so tough. Boom. Shoot's kind of similar. That is Anthony Edwards. That was a deep three. That's what threw it off. Yeah, exactly. His shot form changed.
Starting point is 02:39:33 I think we saw the exact one last time. That's not a standard. Yeah. Yeah. This is a previous knowledge. Wemby? That's skinny. That's skin is hell.
Starting point is 02:39:41 Is that rookie Wemby? That might be a rookie Wemby. skinny yeah I think it is webby damn you put on some weight since then you don't know this is different they got to update this right okay oh they're not getting super high off the ground
Starting point is 02:40:02 high jumper the high jumper is always like it feels like big he looks like he sucks I don't know well now even for but now you have to say the next name Yeah. But I don't know.
Starting point is 02:40:16 Maybe he shoots like he sucks when it goes in. Is this Grant Williams? Nah. He looks too tall. He's too lanky to be Grant Williams. You see some big ass shoulders. Tell him, right? Sure.
Starting point is 02:40:26 Might be. I don't know. Sure. Why not? Nope. But is a USA-born center. He is in the Western Conference. And he's, what's age 28?
Starting point is 02:40:39 No. No. We don't know. Oh, okay. It's not within a couple of years. Otherwise, he'd be yellow. Ah. So it might be a young.
Starting point is 02:40:44 Weston Carford Center or really old Western Conference Center. Okay. So what West Center? Kind of a wide base. Hmm. It's not Chet. His jump shot form is much prettier.
Starting point is 02:40:58 It's not set. It's not definitely not Yonzo on Tunis. I don't even know. Did that again's jump shot? Aiton? Hell no. No, not. He don't need that. He doesn't need that. He has like a jump shot. Yeah. He's actually quite pretty.
Starting point is 02:41:12 Yeah. All right. Let's have some guessing. Quentin Post? Who the fuck is this? Yo, Loki. Quinn Post? Quentin Post?
Starting point is 02:41:20 Nah. Post me up. Nah. Quinn Post? No, but it's in the Pacific. Mm. Okay. That's not.
Starting point is 02:41:28 Sub bonus. Oh, it didn't list a power forward. Wack. Oh, he's a powerful. Lame. It's weird. Lame. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:41:36 No centers on the sun. Shoot threes right now. No centers on the Lakers shoot threes right now. Kings? It's not all for for for it. No. No. I know his jump shot.
Starting point is 02:41:45 Yeah. All right. My bad. I just went through all the team. Somebody's wrong. Ew. Who is this on the Suns? It's not Mark Williams.
Starting point is 02:41:58 It's a center. What? West Pacific. Yeah. Jackson Hayes. He shot out three one time. The Warriors, the Lakers. The Clippers.
Starting point is 02:42:06 Jackson Hayes. He has a little bit of hair I see as well. That's kind of a giveaway. Jackson Hayes. Mm. Clays. Wait, wait. What's the number?
Starting point is 02:42:16 Number 11 West Pacific USA Center Pacific USA Center that wears number 11 It's so specific The fuck is this guy Brooke Oh that's Brooke Obviously that's Brooke
Starting point is 02:42:32 Yeah Yep yep We should have known Oh my God dude my brain is I don't know why I went to young But it's super old What team is on right now? The Clippers?
Starting point is 02:42:41 Yeah, I forgot about the Clippers too Okay This is this guard Damn. Oh, Tyree's Halliborne. Look at that dribble. Look at that wide-ass dribble into the jumper
Starting point is 02:42:51 that's all high. Tyre's Halliburton? Halliburton? That's not. I don't know if it's weird enough. I don't know if that's how bad. Yeah, it's not weird enough. Nope, it's not.
Starting point is 02:42:58 Okay. They're really wide dribble, though. He's not a super tight ball hand. The dribble, yeah. But it's kind of like a wing, though. Yeah, this is, um, Quinn Grimes. This is Queen Grimes.
Starting point is 02:43:08 He's such like a straight up, dude. He moves like real uptight. Oh, it is Queen Grimes. There you go. Perfect. on that. There, just sland you
Starting point is 02:43:18 Tari Tiberian's handle. I know. He doesn't have a loose ass handle. It's great, but it's super loose on the sides.
Starting point is 02:43:24 Okay. Real, real prototypical jumper. Methodical, okay. Yabuselli? Yeah, B'ucelli. What?
Starting point is 02:43:33 Tell me, look at his hand. He does something with his hand after. Who's out here emo like that? Oh, it's not,
Starting point is 02:43:41 it's not, it might be Mikhail. It might be Mikhail. It might be Mikhail. Who did the little Schimmy thing. They shoot and I remember someone doing that.
Starting point is 02:43:49 I always seen stuff. Getting the shoulder? Try to kill. I think it might be Mikhail. I don't, it's not McKale. It's not Michael. Okay. You put that in my mind,
Starting point is 02:43:57 I believe you. We can, we can put, we can put McKale's named out, but it's not. His base is like, we just got to start with something. I don't think that's an emo.
Starting point is 02:44:06 I think that's just how he shoots. He's in the East, small forward slash shooting guard. East small forward slash shooting guard. Does this be someone on the pistons? He looks a little lanky? I don't know. Malik Beasley?
Starting point is 02:44:22 That's what I was thinking about with the shimmy. I was thinking about Malik Beasley. They shouldn't have him here though because he's not playing. It's not going to be him. You just want to put it anyways. Wait, wait, wait, but the number. That's Palo Bancaro number five. That is Palo Van Carro.
Starting point is 02:44:35 Yep, yep, yep. Yep, that is Palo. Yep. Phoebe with a Jay. There we go. That is Palo Van Carro. Correct. Yep, that that's that hate follow through and that wide stance, that's
Starting point is 02:44:46 Palo. Yeah, I should have known based off the stance. God damn. Yep, yep. I think we did a decent job today.
Starting point is 02:44:51 Okay. We got through. We got more right than we got wrong. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Some bad guesses. It wasn't too bad.
Starting point is 02:44:57 Next thing we were going to do. I mean, even the bad guesses. Tactical. Tactical. Next thing we are going to do today. We are going to play NBA, Keep 4, Cup 4, Kevin Durant,
Starting point is 02:45:07 teammates edition. Okay. You know what this works? He's had some good ones. He has some good ones. He has some great ones, actually. Stack the list,
Starting point is 02:45:15 actually. Okay. First name up. Alperin Shangun. Cut. Only because he has all-time teammates and Shangun is not all-time. So we're cutting him. Jabari Smith, Jr.
Starting point is 02:45:29 What if he's just straight Rockets players now? Cut. Have you heard what he said about Javari? We cut him. He doesn't like Javar. I don't want to bar near him at all. The team chemistry bump? For the sake of Javar, I'm cutting him.
Starting point is 02:45:43 I'd be real funny if I say DFS now. It would be. Carrey Irving. Keeping him. We are keeping Carrier. There you go. Not doing only Rockets. Doing all only Rockets plus Carrierving.
Starting point is 02:45:52 Keeping them. Okay. Clay Thompson. Keeping him. Hands down. Keeping him. A lot of all-time teammates on here. Yep.
Starting point is 02:45:59 Keeping them. We got some. Only two? It's fine. Tough. I saw Shangun on this list. Big perk. His favorite teammate I heard.
Starting point is 02:46:10 I heard their best friends off the court. Great's group. You know. Stop. Kevin Grant gives Kendrick Perkins all the credit in the world for their final trip. That is true. I think we have to cut perk though. Unfortunately, man.
Starting point is 02:46:27 Sadly, man. You know. Pour one out for big perk. Yeah. James Hardin. Keeping them. We're keeping the left. No, one cup, one keep.
Starting point is 02:46:34 One spot left inside. We're keeping it very even. You are. I like where we're at. Some might say you're being conservative. Maybe. Some might say you take a stand. Okay.
Starting point is 02:46:43 Some might say you're weak. These are good shots. I practice these shots. Okay. Dremont Green. Damn, why you say without even thinking? Called a week, he had to get out there. Oh my gosh.
Starting point is 02:46:54 Yeah, to get overcompensate. Mm-hmm. No, no, I'm cut throat. You can't say, you can't cut Germany media. We've got to think about it at least. For Kevin Durant teammate list. What if he threw a Nick Collison or something like that? I can be Nick Carlson over Dramon Green as far as Kevin's a team mates.
Starting point is 02:47:07 Try to win at the end of the day. He ran him out of the country. Listen. Out of the country. Listen. He ran him off the West Coast. We are cutting Dremonger. Fuck.
Starting point is 02:47:18 All right. We're cutting him. If you cook me. Last name, Ben Simmons. He likes Ben Simmons. You saw these all those DMs. He loves Ben Simmons. You know what you were.
Starting point is 02:47:25 Unless he did pass. You're right. He misses and respects Ben Simmons. This is nasty though. He hasn't, he hasn't been with the Knits in five years. Still wants to play with Ben Simmons. Sounds like he liked playing a Ben Simmons more than Shengun.
Starting point is 02:47:35 I think if Katie had this list, he would agree with it. If he was here right now, probably. Probably. You probably did exactly what Katie would do. He would do. He makes who he liked playing with. For sure, he would agree.
Starting point is 02:47:43 You guys exactly nailed it in the mind of KD. Okay. You enter that mind. How does it feel? Godmo. Scummy a little bit. Godmo? You feel like a god.
Starting point is 02:47:51 I feel scummy. Next thing we're going to do, we're going to do that game we did before where I have a list of 12 NBA players. Okay. You guys have to guess which one I picked and you have three questions, three hints to guess what it is. Here are those players. Three hints. A bunch of interesting players.
Starting point is 02:48:13 I see Jose Alvarado. How did you sneak onto this list, buddy? Is that interesting? I don't know why he's here. Oh, my gosh. Okay. When this player goes to the barbershop, do they get a three or lower on their haircut?
Starting point is 02:48:31 You're sniping this list right now. It's hard because these guys have lived long lives. And I don't... In these current pictures, do they get a three or lower? Well, that's not fair, because I don't want to lead you to, So just these pictures.
Starting point is 02:48:45 Just these pictures. Okay. In this picture, yes. He would have gotten a three or lower. Okay. So now we're looking at Rondo. We're looking at M.J. We're looking at KG.
Starting point is 02:48:56 Ron Artes. Dennis Rodman. And you eliminated the two dreadhead guys. You eliminated Kremantle-Jabar and RIP Jose Alvarado. Yes. Didn't last long in his video. Okay. Then Lish has made it.
Starting point is 02:49:06 That's what counts. Three, four. Okay. Pretty much everybody else has short hair or lower. Even my white boy, this is. are we counting that as a three it could be I don't know I'm not familiar with the lengths of
Starting point is 02:49:19 as a regular three guy that's not a three yeah I think that's too long that's like a six okay I haven't got a haircut with a number I've done a long time usually two three guy I haven't gone on a number of haircuts since I was like 14 that's all I get
Starting point is 02:49:32 still yeah oh okay not on the wall but like the barn okay okay okay okay okay Oh, you're telling them out. Give me out. Give me a little bill.
Starting point is 02:49:47 What you want. Okay, so you've eliminated. Sometimes those work, too. You've eliminated five players. Okay. Oh, okay. So we have some questions here. Drey.
Starting point is 02:50:02 You only have three. Two more questions left. Oh. What can we use to eliminate? Okay. I know. It's very, I know. It's very tough.
Starting point is 02:50:14 It's very tough. But let's see. So Ron Artesse, Dennis Robman, Draymond, and Jordan have DPO-W-Wis. Yeah. And also Lemb- Does Limbier have a D-P-O-Wi? You eliminated Lambeer? Yeah, he's on.
Starting point is 02:50:28 Yeah, we did. We did. Should we ask if this person has a podcast? Who would that take out? See, I don't know if that's good because it will just take out. Ron Artes. That'll take out, Rodman. Ron Artes?
Starting point is 02:50:40 Does Ron Test is a podcast? I feel like you could. I don't even know. That's why the podcast question is always. Everybody has one now. Yeah, it's super saturated. It took off MJ and Rondo. Hmm.
Starting point is 02:50:53 Rondo's never had a podcast? I don't even know. I don't think so. Should we ask for this player? Maybe as a guess, yeah, but. Should we ask, does this old school player have a clone in the league right now? I feel like that's so open-ended. Does he have a clone?
Starting point is 02:51:08 I wouldn't know how to answer that. Like guys who just like, you see shades of Rondo and X, Y, C. 2K builds. Shades. Don't ask that. I don't know what to say. Shades of the book. I could snipe someone.
Starting point is 02:51:24 But let's go with him now. I can't remember. KG has a DPLY, right? Yes. Yes. Oh, yes. Yes.
Starting point is 02:51:31 So we can ask DPOY and cut out Rondo and Zbo. Yes. And then get down to those five. Is that your question? Let's do it. Let's do it. Are we cool with that B. Yeah, yeah, that's fine.
Starting point is 02:51:45 Let's do it. All right, does this player have a DPOY? Yes, he does. Okay, so it's MJ, KG. Initial five. Okay, you got five players there in the middle. Is, I don't know, does it, all right? No.
Starting point is 02:52:01 Does he? Nah. I don't think he does, no. No, there's no chance. Yeah. So it's Dennis, KG, Drey, and M.J. Four names left. One question.
Starting point is 02:52:13 I ain't go lie. How will you narrow it down? None of them have a podcast, though. All these guys are amazing, bray. Dremont has a podcast. KG has a podcast. Exactly half of the podcast. Which honestly is also trying to get it down.
Starting point is 02:52:25 Mike Jordan does him a podcast, but he has like one podcast episode. They're stretching across NBC. It was a five-minute interview. Also, did Dennis Robin Lever have ever had a podcast? He probably has. He probably has. He's probably had every job. He has sat in from a mic and yaft at some point.
Starting point is 02:52:42 Oh, wow. Okay. So we're trying to cut this down. Are we trying to cut this down to a 50-50 proposition, or are we trying to find the guy? I'd rather find the guy, but the odds of this right now are kind of tough. One of these things is not like the other. Like I would ask, does this player do some form of media right now? There's only one current player.
Starting point is 02:53:08 One current player, one bad offensive player, one goat, two Hall of Famers. Only two of them have played in the last NBA player You know It's a Portland evolution of great defenders Yeah Only two of them have played in the last Like six years in the 2020
Starting point is 02:53:22 Only two of them have MVP's Wow This is this is so hard To find this last question Got to pick one Let's do the MVP one I think that Yeah I think I think we have to get
Starting point is 02:53:34 To 50-50 and then just take our shot Yeah Okay How does this play won an MVP? Yeah Yes, he has an MVP. All right. Okay.
Starting point is 02:53:45 Where would you go? KG or Jordan. Who speaks to you more? KG or Jordan? You close your eyes. You imagine my player. Who do you see more? Who do you see in the stars?
Starting point is 02:53:57 I think I see KG. I'm seeing KG. Yeah, I'm seeing KG. The stars are aligned. It's KG. We're going to KG. What are you seeing that tells you KG? Jordan's too basic.
Starting point is 02:54:06 Yeah, we never pick Jordan to be a winner of anything. Damn. He wins all the time He just won that NASCAR shit Yeah Get sick of it sometimes Yeah I'm I closed my eyes I saw KG Duncan on somebody
Starting point is 02:54:18 And just yelling Yeah You thought that aroused me And I just like I had to pick him I didn't think of Arousal level at all Honestly I just saw
Starting point is 02:54:29 I'm hard I was just seeing him ball So was he Allegedly he was seeing the plurality of it plurality of it of the ball I'll
Starting point is 02:54:46 yeah I'm voting KG yeah KG it is Kevin Garnett Hey you guys nailed it you guys got it right we're hard come on man
Starting point is 02:54:57 okay we're hard okay next thing we're gonna do We're going to divide ourselves in the teams of two. Me and B. Souls versus Moe and Donovan. Thank goodness. I want to be on this team.
Starting point is 02:55:17 Team hard over here. Okay, I'm going to pick a category. Mo, you pick a category and text to Donovan. Beasles, I'm going to text it to you. Both of our teams are going to have one category, right? Whatever may be, you can say ball players, you can say MVP's, whatever you decide. And we're going to take turns trying to guess the other team's category. And a way to do that is, I'm going to say, does blank player,
Starting point is 02:55:38 fit in your category. You tell me yes or no. So all you can do is guess individual players inside to see who can gauge your category first. Okay. Let's say. I'll send that text over.
Starting point is 02:55:51 Okay. Have you sold anything about this one? Should we do this? Yes. Yes. Okay. You guys at your category? Nope.
Starting point is 02:56:02 I'm sending in right now. L-text her. Never mind. L-T-Mobile, man. Let's go. Oh, you? You got to email? They didn't see that, but I did.
Starting point is 02:56:12 The Fox. I love that. Why are you doing that right now? You just wanted to do that. Nothing happened. If I go to email lately, man. I've never seen you do that. I think you go to email is the Jeremy Kane thing.
Starting point is 02:56:27 I just changed my emo settings last night. Oh, okay. Is your new thing you're trying out? Yeah, yeah. Okay, okay. My bad. That's four in a row. So you have a category of a player or is it just like some of the general?
Starting point is 02:56:37 I'm not going to lie. You're not even hit it. It's a category like ball players. Okay, cool. I'm not even good. He does not have that shit on. Briss has no motion. You got working on some work.
Starting point is 02:56:50 I know it's your first day. I know it's your first day with that being your email. He looks like he's doing it, but like in the Lego movie. Where they just move around. Okay. I know it's day one, that being your new move, but you can get back in the lab a little bit. Work on that. I'll try it out one more time before we end the pot.
Starting point is 02:57:06 Okay. Some redemption. You guys good? Yeah, let's do it. Okay. Can I get LeBron James? No. No. Damn it.
Starting point is 02:57:12 We'll take turns picking. Okay. Can we get Shagia with that was Andrew? No, you cannot. No. Not be supposed to your turn. Can we get Michael Porter Jr.? No.
Starting point is 02:57:24 Damn it. Hell no. Can we get Steph Curry? You cannot. Can we get Steph Curry? Yes. Yes. They didn't think about it, though.
Starting point is 02:57:35 So it's something. Not shooter. Something a little debate. Yeah, yeah. Not a. Light skin players. Yeah. Not pretty players.
Starting point is 02:57:41 Underarm. Not goats. Okay. So I have no bra and no Shay. Yeah. I asked Shay. Who did you ask? I asked Steph Curry.
Starting point is 02:57:48 Mm. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Can we get, can we get Jermann Green?
Starting point is 02:57:58 Low key, but not, not exactly. Kind of. You can kind of get Steph Curry. I mean, you can get Jermon Green at some point of his life. Hmm. Could be maybe a shooter. That's my that's most honest way I can answer without fucking you up. Okay.
Starting point is 02:58:14 Okay. Oh, we got stuff Curry. It was a decent score. Can we get Magic Johnson? No. Are you thinking anything yet? I'm not thinking anything. I was possibly thinking, um, under armor.
Starting point is 02:58:26 Nah, that's that's too obvious. Nah. It's undebatable. Said Draymond at a certain point in his life. Yeah. Just don't think about too much. I don't want that's okay. A little hard.
Starting point is 02:58:36 All right. Okay, okay, okay. So I asked if we can get a sh- Who'd ask me yet? I almost forgot. I said, Dremont earlier. Yeah, that's a Dremont.
Starting point is 02:58:52 The only name you have a Dremont. Can we get a white boy just to track the names that we- You can write down at home. Yeah, Draymond. Oh, you're on a white boy? Yeah, we got white boy. Yeah. Oh, I thought you said white boy.
Starting point is 02:59:01 I'm like, oh, my God. No. We are visual learners here. No, I was like, I mean a white boy specifically to keep track of this. Cannot keep this up. Okay, so you guys have Draymond, we have Curry so far. Yes. That's all you have.
Starting point is 02:59:14 Okay, so think of a name. All right. So I got Dre. Yes. No. All right. So we have. And then you had stuff.
Starting point is 02:59:22 And we said we have no to Shea, no to Steph. Yep. There's a lot of writing. Yeah. And okay. Can we have, could we have LeBron? No. No.
Starting point is 02:59:33 No. All right. Be sold. Hell not. No. Okay. Um, so we get Zion? No.
Starting point is 02:59:40 Damn it. All right. So we have literally nothing to cling on to right now. So we got to like have some random ass trait. Can we get a Thai hero? Nope. Damn. Yeah, at this point in a lot,
Starting point is 02:59:52 we got to keep rapid fire names. Damn. Damn. Can we get Janus? No. Okay. Can we get Palo? No.
Starting point is 03:00:02 Okay. Hmm. No, Paulo. No palo. Is my current. Yep. Okay. Can we get Jose Alvarado?
Starting point is 03:00:07 No. Nope. Damn. What? No. Okay. get Taris Maxi? No. Can we get Charles Barkley? No. What the fuck did they pick? Can we get can we get heikin? No. Damn. See what you're not going to get it until you get it and then the
Starting point is 03:00:24 rain's gonna when it rains it pours with us. Okay. Can we get Draymond Green? No. No. Okay. Um can we get Reggie Miller? Nope. No. I'm trying to see if there's like can we get Shea. we already guess that much of it no we get they get shay okay a little bit sometimes but yeah sheish yeah yeah sometimes so it's a behavior-based thing i think can we get okay hold on you got it um got name okay earlier they said draymond is but not really so don't think about it like that he said jrima had this at one point of his career so i'm thinking maybe probably is it behavioral kind of like someone was like kind of chill maybe yeah someone was like relaxed mellow type shit yeah mellow type shit yeah that's my guess I'm asked I would if I
Starting point is 03:01:23 are you had asked can we get Carmelo anything can we get carmel an oh you went mellow mellow yeah uh no you cannot get actually same thing with draymond no I don't think it'd be fair to call him that but something that make me hesitate okay I'll say no for Camillo but I could see if you disagree okay okay I think I think I know we're going. Mine's kind of hard to pin down. Okay. I think I know we're going.
Starting point is 03:01:44 Can we get things about likeability? Likeability? Can we get Kobe? No. Okay, never mind. I was thinking maybe is it a fan favorite and Shay is like sometimes?
Starting point is 03:01:54 Can we get Tim Duncan? No. I was like quiet guys. We have Curry and Shayish. Curry, Shayish. Guards, MVP. No, but sometimes. So she's always a guard.
Starting point is 03:02:07 Yeah. I thought it was Orif. farmer but she always clutch-ish oh she's not he's always clucked oh my god
Starting point is 03:02:20 what the hell was that they already said no to Colby oh my god he's always clutch we already asked LeBron LeBron's clutch oh my god that was crazy
Starting point is 03:02:36 my bet um damn Do you think it's annoying players? Annoying? Jay sometimes annoying. Not once you, I think so. Yeah, it's help each other a little bit.
Starting point is 03:02:51 It's not as much behavioral as you. Okay. Do you think players who have had braids? Steph has had braids. That's funny. No, but Steph would be sometimes. She would be always. If I just five, I guess, we're still reaching.
Starting point is 03:03:06 Anderson Verjean? No. Hell no. Can we get Anthony Edwards? No. Wow. Okay. This is tough.
Starting point is 03:03:17 Wow. Okay. Can we get, damn. Can we get Anthony Edwards? No. What the hell is this category? I wouldn't say so. Yeah, no.
Starting point is 03:03:27 This category makes sense. You'd be like, I'll pick some bullshit. Yeah. No. Something very like, very like general. So I should be able to get this.
Starting point is 03:03:34 It's not true gracious. Yeah, you should. Like you went easy on me. With Curry. Low key. ours is somewhat easy. Okay. Mine is, I don't know if mine's easier.
Starting point is 03:03:45 Okay. Can we get, do we ask about Clay Thompson yet? No. Can we get Clay? Nope. No. I'm telling you, when you get it or get it, can you get Shaq? No. I'm going to laugh. No. The laugh told me a lot, but I'm not being Shaq.
Starting point is 03:04:02 Um, all right. Can we get Jason Tatum? Nope. No. Are these good teammates? no no oh but is it close because you guys it didn't no okay damn it not behavioral um damn i'm so hot for anthony edwards right now i i our last two guesses were our last three were aunt clay tatum ain't clay tatum so it's guy like uh it's not a second round pick you said germans no i'll say mine is about a trait not behavioral either something about them
Starting point is 03:04:37 maybe like a good shooter or not like a athlete who do you ask though all you have is Draymond is yeah they can't even be athlete we ask for Brock so what the fuck
Starting point is 03:04:52 can we move up for Tramon he said that Carmello wouldn't he said that Carmelo wouldn't um he said that Carmelo wouldn't really come on that cause some confusion but no okay I'm not even thinking about Carmelo at this point okay if I said Carmelo
Starting point is 03:05:05 it would lead you astray because it should be more defining than Camerlo. Can we get Chandler Parsons? No. Okay, they said no to Shaq. So think about a funny trait about Shaq he doesn't have. He is not giving.
Starting point is 03:05:20 He is not selfless. Are these good three-point shooters? No. Damn it. Getting better, though. Getting better. Hmm. And Shay sometimes,
Starting point is 03:05:30 shade with a hesitation, and Shaq doesn't at all. But it's not three-point shooting. Okay. Wait. All right, take a guess Can we get Chris Paul? I don't know
Starting point is 03:05:41 Yes, yes, you can't get Chris Paul Yes, you can get Chris Paul Yes, okay Oh, I think I know it I think I know it I think you might just figured it out All right, well hold on, we have One more guys, okay
Starting point is 03:05:52 We have our guess Oh shit So what is it about? Think physical, think physical Just say it, just say in it No, just think physical traits I'll tell you a bone, physical traits
Starting point is 03:06:03 Oh, he's gone on a fight before that's not a physical trait that is an action is this great passers no or good passers no damn it no okay physical traits okay so he said we can't have anything Edwards
Starting point is 03:06:19 okay so you can super mega not have Anthony Edwards it's I'm guessing it's like a 6-7 Ford or something like that who's six seven? These are categories everyone their categories not players yeah
Starting point is 03:06:33 can we get Scottie Pimpin. No. Can we get Kyrie Irving? Yes. Okay. Players with great handles?
Starting point is 03:06:42 Along those lines. They got it. They got it. They got it. It's killer crossover. Oh, okay. Yeah. One more guess.
Starting point is 03:06:50 One more player for mine. We actually have enough guesses. We have to guess the category now just to have a chance. Dremont, some of the time we're talking about a physical trait. Is this? This players with. I don't know These are chubby players
Starting point is 03:07:09 You didn't pick a single chubby player You didn't give yourself a chance You'll pick like the skinniest players Oh you picked Reggie Miller Oh my god Chubby players That's like Carmilla had a little chubby face
Starting point is 03:07:22 At some point But if I told you that It would leave you a chubby face Hmm Dreaming was a chubster Hey man this I don't remember to be Listen that's real
Starting point is 03:07:32 Tubby chubby like that Man he'd be chatted for the football I remember it was like a Yeah you're a Right. That's why I asked Braun after Dremont because I thought it was like two sport athletes. Yeah. Let's do another one. Let's do one more round.
Starting point is 03:07:41 See what we can do better. This time you guys switch teams or who decides? Right. Who, man. Isaac, you're still texting me? Oh, you text me. Okay. You pick one.
Starting point is 03:07:53 That put us in the blender. If you got to go faster, it's on bad radio. What are we feeling, B-Soles? Um, I don't know if we should spam this. Performative players. Formative players. Is that what you're going to say? No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 03:08:08 I just say, excuse me. Okay. You good with this? Okay. Okay. Okay. Easy. Sure.
Starting point is 03:08:14 Fuck it. For you like. Okay. You guys ready? Yeah. Can I get LeBron James? No. Damn it.
Starting point is 03:08:24 Okay. Can we get... Hmm. Can we get Raza Rondo? No. No. No, you cannot. Okay.
Starting point is 03:08:33 I thought around for a second. Okay. I'll bet guess. Bees souls? Can we get Anthony Edwards? No. Can we get can we get MPJ?
Starting point is 03:08:44 Yes. Yes. Yes, you can. You definitely can. Yes, you can. I think so. Okay. Can I get...
Starting point is 03:08:53 Classic. Can I get Steph Curry? No. Damn it. Can we get Jeff T. I don't think so? Nah. Nah.
Starting point is 03:09:04 Can we get JJ Reddick? Uh, no. No. No. No. I take, take a guess. Okay. So, what was our guess earlier?
Starting point is 03:09:15 So we got yes to MPJ, no to Jeff T. Yes to MPJ, no to Jeff T. Okay. Um, yeah, I'm going to ask this again. Well, hold on. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:09:30 Yes. Oh my God. Yes. Yes. For one specific. moments for what specific moment for one moment that lives in infamy you can have dream on green okay is a definition of if you know you know if you know i won't say anymore but okay probably unfortunate okay you know too much um um okay okay okay can we get Chris fall yeah you can get Chris Paul
Starting point is 03:10:04 yeah why not okay my first get Why not? You can. Can we get Jamal Murray? Yes. Yes. You can have Jamal. Your own shirt was crazy.
Starting point is 03:10:26 What the fuck? Bro, it was like 16 scars. Shut. Oh, God. That's crazy. Okay. We have CP3. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 03:10:37 Are these players who are assholes? No. I had to swing for the fences. Do you like someone get a player guess? I don't even know how to ask. Can I me get James Hardin? No, no.
Starting point is 03:10:48 Okay. It's not as overt as you're thinking. Like, it's not. Players who are popular on Instagram. No. You idiot. That's crazy. No.
Starting point is 03:11:01 Okay, we can keep going then. We keep going. Chris Paul. That's all we got. John Stockton? Can we get John Stockton? No. Oh, what the hell?
Starting point is 03:11:09 Damn. Mm-mm. Um, it's a very specific lane that we've gone down. But like, not really. Like, don't overindex on your specific lane. And now I'm like, you zoom out a little bit more. But like not, don't zoom out too much, but zoom out a little bit. Like, I wouldn't write that.
Starting point is 03:11:29 And that's why I was confused. Yeah. Because I was like, where are we going to? It applies, but I didn't write that specific thing. Yeah. All right. MPJ, Draymond, Jamal Murray. Obviously, all have something in common.
Starting point is 03:11:41 But, can we get to? Scotty Pippen? I don't know. I don't, yeah, we don't know. I don't think so. Not famously. No? Maybe I don't know something, but I don't think so.
Starting point is 03:11:54 Okay, your turn. All we have is CP3. Yeah, I just guess. I guess James Hardin. Oh. CP3? I was thinking four generals with my John Stockton guess.
Starting point is 03:12:07 He already said asshole, right? Yeah, asses of an asshole. Said no. Was that close? No. Okay. Paul George? No.
Starting point is 03:12:16 Look at this B. I don't know. Small players? MPJ, Dremont, Jamal Murray. Okay. You're like one player away from getting it? Okay. I don't know who, I don't know who the last in the, like, the four horsemen is.
Starting point is 03:12:34 There's more, trust. There is? There is plenty. Yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure there's more, but I don't know how many I remember. There's like countless. Lada, I hate the most, too. Zonner Williamson.
Starting point is 03:12:43 Yes, you can have Zion Williamson. You certainly can have Zion Williamson. Okay. The antithesis of this. Can I have Michael Jordan? No. But what the fuck is this category? Chris Fall.
Starting point is 03:12:57 Hmm. Okay. Is his teammates of James Hardin? No. Is his teammates of Kevin Rance? Take your, take your guess. Can we have J.R. Smith? Yes. Yes. Okay.
Starting point is 03:13:13 If you don't have mine, I'll never get it. I don't know the exact bird. Yeah, can have kept a rent. No. Take a guess. So we know like what this in general is. You should have it. Is this players you want to like censor sometimes?
Starting point is 03:13:32 What? Wait, what you? Because they just like do too much. No. Oh, oh. Oh, okay. No. Okay.
Starting point is 03:13:39 I wouldn't say that. I thought he said something else. No. No. Okay. But we have no. nothing right now. Oh, oh, I was going down. Oh, we asked this. Can we have zero? Can we have Jason Tatum? No, no. Is this players with famous social media moments? No. No. How are y'all not getting this? It's a, what the fuck? It's a personality trait. I was thinking players in commercials for them. Is this players in commercials? No. No. This is just freaky NBA points? Yeah. It's freak as well. Okay. Just the freaky toys? Okay. Just the freakyers. Okay. It's freaky NBA players
Starting point is 03:14:20 If y'all had asked Wait we still one more guess It's not players and commercials It's not great passers It's not I'll give you I'll give you one hint He was probably the closest To being on track when he said
Starting point is 03:14:35 Florida generals Okay I said great passers Playmakers Is this These point guards No I know if you already asked point guards Oh what is it It's 2,000 cigars
Starting point is 03:14:46 Oh Yeah Okay. That's difficult. Well, you guys got the freaks. I was hoping that you guys said at least two names and then you would have went down like the rival hole. I know. That's crazy.
Starting point is 03:14:57 You got nothing. The Jamal Murray gets killed me. That was so funny. That was crazy. That was such a lucky string of names. That was creamy. Yes. We got a bad thing too.
Starting point is 03:15:07 Oh, that would be said at the end of his episode. If you're still here, comments. Are you there for Dremont? Come on. Do not comment about your name. Come on, man. Just have a good day, man Just have a good day
Starting point is 03:15:22 Enjoy your life, enjoy the weekend And eat wings of bone in them, please. Yeah. Work harder. Spend the five extra percent of effort in you use. Tell us how you're going to spend your weekend. Tell me how you're going to strive for greatness via wing and with bones in them.

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