The Deep 3 Podcast - Every NBA Team's Biggest Weakness (Ft. L.O.W.) | Ep. 191

Episode Date: February 26, 2026

The biggest playoff weakness for every NBA team! With LegendOfWinning! #nba Check out the TD3 merch: https://the-deep-3-shop.fourthwall.com/ Listen on Spotify!: https://open.spotify.com/show/3elbbqVumwqz8wlIdknsLW Listen on Apple Podcasts!: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-deep-3-podcast/id1657940794 Follow us on TikTok!: https://www.tiktok.com/@thedeepthree Follow us on Instagram!: https://www.instagram.com/thedeep3podcast/ Isaac's twitter: https://twitter.com/byisaacg Mo's twitter: https://twitter.com/Mojo99_ Donnavan's twitter: https://twitter.com/Dsmoot3D 00:00 Intro 1:48 Charlotte Hornets 6:30 Denver Nuggets 14:30 Golden State Warriors 19:13 LA Lakers 29:15 Houston Rockets 34:40 Detroit Pistons 39:50 Toronto Raptors 44:10 Cleveland Cavaliers 48:00 New York Knicks 54:40 Boston Celtics 1:03:00 Speed Round 1:09:20 Orlando Magic 1:21:00 Minnesota Timberwolves 1:27:13 OKC Thunder 1:31:25 San Antonio Spurs 1:37:15 LA Clippers 1:38:25 Philadelphia 76ers 1:42:00 Producer Corner 1:56:09 TikTok Time Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Mo, what is your biggest weakness? My biggest weakness, man. It might have to be my ability to draft here and there. You do suck at drafting. He is selling. He is a seller. Lo. It might be that.

What do you think your biggest weakness is? Push it on the spot. It's a job interview. That's crazy. No troll. It might be my caloric intake. I don't know. I don't know.

That's my biggest thing is I hear. Coloric intake. You're fired. With that being said, as you guys see by the title, we are here today to talk about every single NBA team's biggest weakness. And, you know, we do this every NBA team thing. Usually we're telling the truth. We talk about 30 teams. Today, I am fucking lying.

We will not be talking about all the tanking teams. The teams that are out of the playoffs have no chance of doing anything important in the rest of the season. We're disregarding them. And we're talking about all the teams that either will be in the playoffs or we'll be in the playing and have somewhat competitive basketball coming up with the next couple months. If Adam Silver won't punish the tanking teams, we will. We will. We'll exclude them from conversations. And as you guys also see by the title, as you also see by the first 30 seconds of this show,

we are here today with the very special guest. Lo, Legend of Winning is in the building. How you doing, man? Hey, how are you doing, man? Thank you for having me on, bro. It's been a long time coming. I've been wanting to be on for a second. So thank you.

For sure. Yeah, glad we can make a work. Had to figure out the tech setup before we started getting a remote interview with all of us in person. But glad we're finally here. Facts, facts, facts. With that being said, cue the intro music. Let's talk about some NBA teams and what they fucking suck at.

Let's lock it. We're throwing it back That's crazy He was bragging I don't need to say The cranium is crazy Oh my God Thank you,

Wow Crown eaters rejoice Lo, as the honorary guest today You can go first What team do you want to see out To talk about Is their biggest weakness? Um

We can start with a hornets You know, shout out Shout out to Charlotte they've been doing really, really good recently. Hate that I got a hate on them like this. That does suck. But for me, Charlotte's, like, biggest weakness probably is their defense, either their defense or, like, their experience.

Even though they've been, like, really, really good recently, they've been playing really great basketball. Shout to Lamello and them. It's always just been, like, interior defense. It's always been, like, a thing they struggle with the most. So, yeah, that's probably their biggest weakness. Yeah, they're so interesting because I think the way I want to frame this for every team is at the playoffs started today

and you see their first-round matchup assuming they got to play in for all these teams what will be their downfall, right? What will be the one thing you worry about when you project them going against whoever might be their first-round opponent? And the Hornets have been this like, obviously shitter when the season started

and then broke out of that playing so well, this pesky team that's like, whoa, look out for them, making this run. I guess they're interesting now. To now they're just like a bona fide good team who have been good for a fourth of the season that they're no longer cute. I feel like nobody's really talked about

like what are they actually going to be good and bad at come playoff time? Because it's just been the cute story. I don't know how the defense is going to hold up with lamello ball, Miles Bridges at the four helping out their young center rotation as a weak side defender. That's a lot of holes to pick at in the playoffs. Yeah, it's been a lot because, like, I do think, like, so many times a team will, like, have a weakness or they have, like, a roster construction, and then we'll see, like,

a 20-game sample size. And it's like, hey, they're actually putting it all together. And then the thing that you said, where we get into a playoff series and then instantly it's like, oh, the thing that we initially thought about them, that they couldn't guard anybody. That's actually still true when people have like two days to to sit down and say, how are we actually going to attack you? And so like the last 10-50 games, they've, every time you look up and you look at the Hornets, the offense is at the top of the league, the defense is top, it's top 10. They're doing all of this. I'm not going to put enough

faith in them in their defense right now to say that they can like make some super long run. But I still do think that like their defense still might be good enough to get to, to get They're only 16th and defensive rating. They're not like 30th or 13th. They're not a terrible defensive team. And that's because they're incredible at limiting the boards. They're best in the NBA at preventing offensive rebounds, which is weird because they're also 29th in offensive rebound percentage on their side.

So they don't crash the boards, but they're incredible at stopping for other teams from doing that. And I think that's kind of like the main thing that's kept their defense afloat and stop them from being one of those bottom tier teams. Curious how that translates to the playoffs, I really don't know. I think the biggest thing as to why their defense also has been just solid for the entirety of the year is that they have a lot of like active guys and you know they're also just big they don't have a dude starting who's like below six five or six six the smallest dude on this starting lineup is con probably you know and so i think that's i agree with you that's probably like their biggest probably will be their biggest weakness as like i don't know playoff time comes around but overall right it couldn't be any better to be that's crazy that cons are smallest guy con stick as hell for a rookie yeah what con has some girth for a rookie you heard him Con is built for a rookie. He's not skiing at all.

I guess. I guess. I guess. Listen, that is true, though. Like every other rookie that you see, they look all of like 18, 19 years old. And con looks like a regular NBA player. What convo is this?

What are we doing? What about Convo you listed in a habit? There's a reason Bill's in and drove him home. Like, you notice things. That was also crazy. That was great. That was insane. I should do that next time we ever did interview.

Bulls player come through the studio. In Buzel is where you live. I got you. But yeah, their main weaknesses are their transition defense. Half court, they're decent, but in transition, they're 26 and points for play, 23rd in frequency giving up. It makes sense when you have Lamello, Miles Bridges, really stop there.

Those two, their centers are good and active on the rebounding, but there's still, you know, some questions there, but the foot speed especially with that calculator. So we'll see how that translates. Yeah. It is really weird because like Lowe said, like they've

been playing well and you hate that you have to hate on them right now. Like everything is just so up for Charlotte. And so this is the one team that I'm actually like, you know what? You guys can you guys can do whatever you want. I don't even think we're hating for other. Like that for a team that was bad to start the year and has broken into this solid tier, to say your biggest weakness is your average defense. That's not too bad.

Like that's really not. We're not talking about the 30th best defense here. Yeah. The Nuggets defense has been a million times worse than them for the entirety of the season. Yeah. It's really not a bad complaint for the team that has no expectations prior to the year. Thanks. All right, Donovan, as the preemptive hater on the,

Podcasts. Where do you want to start with your first team? Start with that team you just mentioned. The Demmer Nuggets, they can't guard anybody. Like outside of everybody being hurt, they can't guard anybody. And it's crazy because even whenever you look at some of the like advanced numbers, they've gotten good three point luck. And so people are still missing three pointers against them and they still are not a good defensive

team. And so I think ultimately you're waiting on this like finalized version of them where where Yokic is back, like, fully, fully healthy, and he's ready to go, and Gordon is back in the playoffs. You get this elevated version of Jamal Murray, and you said that those three can carry us everywhere. But then they've, like, even with Yokic there, they've always been able to at least have some type of respectable defense. Yeah.

Not a defense that you look at and is in the bottom five of the league. Not a defense that just lets anybody get, you know, get to the rim at any cost. Like, they can't guard the paint, like, at, at, At the rim, people are scoring at at Will. Floater Range people are scoring at Will. And without Aaron Gordon there, they don't really even have a chance of being a competent defense when we talk about long playoff fronts. Yeah.

And honestly, that's something that I wasn't really, like, prepared to see. I know Aaron Gordon, like, is the glue. And he covers up so much for this team, not only on defense, but on offense, too. He's, like, the perfect piece alongside all these other guys so like to get their shots off. And he's so selective when it comes to getting his shots. thoughts off but on defense, bro.

I didn't think that he, I knew he had like a massive impact, but I know it was going to be this drastic to where we're talking about your defensive competitor level is of the likes of the worst teams of the fucking league. That's ridiculous.

I don't think there's no excuse for that. We talked about how the Hornets have Con as their smallest player, quote unquote, and like the collective girth that comes with that with being a thick team that has all that defensive force and width, the Nuggets are missing their girth. There's a skinny team

that is having a whole thing. that is having a hard time saying in front of guys. Obviously, Peyton Watson's hurt too. But they just lack, like, powerful defenders when Aaron Gordon's gone that can give you some kind of rim protection to hide Nicole Yokic, who obviously, you know, the reason they won the championship after getting Aaron Gordon is perfect compliment in that way. Without him, you have, like, Cam Johnson and Payton Watson, when he's healthy,

is, like, your biggest power four type defender. Those guys are slender. That's not doing anything. Not at all. And especially with Nicole Yokish, not playing, like, 100% post-injury, coming back and looking, I don't know, sometimes at Nicole Yolkich, sometimes like a guy that's trying to hit those games, required. limits so he can win the MVP. It's just ugly right now. Yeah. Yeah. I think the reason why we got

to say their defense is just because this is going to sound crazy glaze. But the reason why we got to say their defense is because there's not really much else to like nitpick though. And when Aaron Gordon is playing, their defense is like fine, especially in the lineups where it's like Gordon, basically what is more than likely going to be their starting five with Gordon, Yokic and Christian Brown in the front court, their defense, I'm looking at right now, a 107 defensive rating, even when they do a little adjusting. And Peyton Watson's in the mix. It's 108.

So they have a really good defense when Gordon is playing. But obviously when he's out and he's not playing and he's not available and he's been out for like a while, 159 minutes together, only 10 games played with the starting five that we think we're going to see out of him in Yokic, Christian Brown, Cam Johnson, Yolkidge and Gordon, 159, and we're past the All-Star break. terms of minutes. That's just not enough. And so, yeah, that's a big concerning. But yeah, I definitely second the whole Aaron Gordon and his value to the team. He's like one of those players that, like, history is probably not going to do justice to like the type of impact he had on his team because

he doesn't have like the accolades and stuff like that. But Aaron Gordon being absent is crazy. Who's the passwords of Aaron Gordon that history forgets, but it was super important? Who's the 2010 is Aaron Gordon? Man, I don't want to, I don't want to out myself because, you know, the ball knowledge thing is going on right now. So if I say like a very obvious name, they're going to be like, it's not real ball knowledge. In the 2000s, it used to be Sean Marion because he'd never really made any type of all defensive team type of selections.

I'm trying to think of... Okay, so all-time great defenders that were important to winning teams for important teams but weren't recognized on all-defensive teams. Did Shane Badee get all defensive teams? I'm going to say Shambati, Shane Bade is probably another one too. Yeah. Yeah, I'm not sure if you made a team like that. Yeah, players like the dog. You're 100% right, though. Yeah. And it's tough because, you know, we

we talk a lot about OKC, kind of losing their title is like clear beyond everybody without a shadow of a doubt title favorites because jaddo's been hurt and we're at this point unsure when he's going to come back how much time i'll have to get his feet under him how much time the team will have to get a good rhythm with the starting lineup whether or not he'll be able to shoot defend do everything we know he can do come playoff time i feel more concerned for erin gordon than i do for jdub or at least equal so you know we talk a lot about okay c being getable when you say that you probably assume that Denver is a team that can get them they are just as much of a health question to me oh dude no other team in the

entire league has been fucked this season more by injuries than the Denver. It's even hit by every single angle outside of someone like Jamal Murray who has like the worst injury history when it comes to all their important players on their team. So yeah. It's really up and down the whole roster. Every important player besides Murray has been hurt. Also like and we're like for for rightfully so we can we can hop on on their defense. Cam Johnson has been so negative for them. And it's been it's been it's been so bad because I do think that.

As soon as they traded for Cam Johnson, it's like, oh, cool. Like, we got MPJ out of here. Like, we're, we're going to get this upgrade. He has not been an upgrade. He has not been to the level of MPJ at all. And so, like, they were, you're getting 18, you're getting 18 points last year. You're getting 40% from the three point line on really good volume. You are not getting that at all from Cam Johnson.

He's taking like half the threes. MPJ, even though that he was, you know, ton of vision, I'm going to, I'm going to shoot this ball every time I get it. Even on the, like, quote, unquote, other stuff, he was a good rebounder. you're not getting the rebounding stuff from Cam Johnson. And so to give up MPJ and a pick, they've completely lost that trade. And so even whenever Aaron Gordon comes back and you try to look at this offense and start saying like, ultimately, you're going to be fine because Jamal Murray has elevated. Yokic is Yokic. But the others and everybody else, you're not getting that from Cam Johnson right now.

That's also a massive problem. These last few games, Cam Johnson, two for seven, six or 12, great game. Three for eight, one for seven, four for 11. Cam Johnson, can you do something for me? The bar and solo, 50% shooting, we're like, yes, fantastic games, lightning hit the fuck up. Fire podcaster, though. Yeah, man.

Yeah. This ain't a lot. This is a lot of hating, dog. Like, I think Cam been fine. Obviously, like, his role on the team is lower, but dang, bro, y'all, y'all, y'all, y'all are killing Cam. No, man. I love Camson, but he's not.

He hasn't been playing well. He hasn't been playing well. And this is the second, and there was a, like, a graphic or, like, a meme earlier in the season where it's like everybody gets caught in like the Brooklyn Nets cycle of you go of you go there and you're the you're the number one option people think that you can do a little bit more than you can and so like the Knicks had that with Mikhail Bridges where he was scoring 20 points a game and then you say oh you can do that with New York and it's not necessarily the same thing that is kind of happening right now with cam Johnson where last year he was scoring 18 now he's back down to 12 you're not getting the same amount of playmaking and offensive creation and just offensive juice that you thought that he could have low you know what this is we'll get Just like everybody does, that does media, we will get accusations of being too nice to players that we interview. We interviewed Cam Johnson last year. Donovan's going the other way.

He's making sure people know that we're not biased. He's making sure we're really goodest people we interview. They're constantly calling me a Darius Garland Glazer. He refuses to say anything bad about him. He's ducking those allegations right now by Cam Johnson. He just has to play better. And it hasn't worked out. It's been a negative move for Denver.

I ranked Darren Fox at Top 10 point guard. They say he wants another interview. I can't believe it. Top five to me. Okay. She? For Pierre, I don't know. Let's have these conversations.

What's your next team? What's your first team? My first team is the Golden State Warriors. Pretty easy. Yo, health. Their entire season got fucking nooped. Of course, Jimmy Buller, towards ACO, one of the worst things

that happened for them in a long time. Steph's been out for quite a while, too. They've been maintaining, like, I think slightly above over 500 beating up on bad teams. It's just impressive because they're a bad team too. Dremont Green, man. He's falling from the fucking heaven. Let's talk about that because obviously the on ball creation,

the just scoring from all up and down, the Jonathan Camingo failure. We've talked about the same issues forever. Let's talk about the Dream on Green stuff. That's new this year. He's giving you like a new form of like ass now. He's throwing up not tour dates, but biblical verses. He's shooting like 0, 3, 2 BC before Curd.

It's that fucking bad. He had a 0-3-2 game in 20 minutes of play. The offense has fallen off. And obviously, Jermont Green for years now hasn't been this, like, dynamite offensive player. You know, he lost his foot speed a while ago. The shooting has come and gone in different years. One year he's shooting got crazy. Next year it's been iffy.

The turnover is this year that he's been having are outrageous. The scoring threat is at an all-time low. And, like, it's always such a delicate balance with him in his later years, especially, where he's so valuable in all these small ways. But obviously he doesn't have these traditional skills that you look for in one of your most important players. As soon as your stars are going out, and it's the same thing that happened in the tanking year,

one step isn't there for a long time, and Jimmy isn't there for a long time, and his dream long gets more and more attention, you notice those weaknesses so much more, and that value proposition changes. He does not look great right now at all. Dude, everything about his game changes, bro. Like, even if you watch him closely,

you can tell that he just doesn't even have the same level of interest or intensity at all, without Steph Curry on the team, bro. So it's bad. This is the lowest has been, man, for Dreamline. I don't know. I personally, I don't, I don't even know. We can probably skate by this team because I don't even think they were in the contending team on some serious stuff.

But, no, like, it's sad that, bro. Curry 37. Shout to Curry because nobody thought he was going to be this good this late. But the fact that they still have to rely on Curry this much is crazy. To me, they probably their biggest weakness is they got poor Zingas for Kaminga. They ain't got nothing for that man. That's crazy. You know what I'm crazy.

They never got talked about enough. they just dead ass has got a larger expiring contract for Portangas. He's a Moza Hawks fan, so we talked a lot about it. Yeah, they dumped salary, they dumped them for a guy that people were like, oh, Kaminka has his five-out spacing element. No, they know he is not healthy and will ever play. This adds financial flexibility at best. This was giving up on the season entirely.

Man, that's tough, bro. I think that's probably their biggest weakness is that we all knew that this team was going to need to add something and kind of just crossing our fingers, hoping that someone's going to happen. But like, you got Porzengis. And then Jimmy got hurt. And then it's like, bro, the season is just, the season is done. It's curry out there with Draymond Green.

Like, come on. And B-Pods, too. Like, come on, man. Another B-pods, Trey. I've never seen such an average role player get hated on so much. Dude. We've been talking for three weeks now that every time B-Soles has a chance, he throws a shot at B-pods for no reason.

And it's so fitting. It's hilarious. That you come on the show and do the same thing. Everybody hates this guy Pott's the most fine additive player ever, bro. He's legit not bad. But he's also legit not good.

He's just fine. The dynasty ends with him. He is the indicator. But the reason why, you know why? Because that's why. Because like, bro, B-Paw has been on like record saying he's the Otani of this.

I'm like, bro, you got it. Yeah, I'm like, you got it. He said it? Yes. Yes, he said that. I do not remember that. He said, I'm going to be at the Olympic team the next year, 2028.

Save a spot for me. No. He said, I feel like I can be the Tony of the NBA. He was like, he was like, I don't know if he's won't as far as they like curry them should look up to me, but like I'm, I'm going to be the next curry. I want to be the one and they transition and the franchise to. And I'm like, nah, man, that's not you, man.

You're a good peace. That's it. That's it. Yo, we need to start drug testing players after not only like after crazy performances, but after they say something crazy like that, drug testing media. Really, what we need to do is treat Brandon Pajamski like Michael Porter Jr. and say start a nationwide petition and take the mic away. No mics.

Stop asking some questions for its own good. What's it called when those celebrities are like having crazy episodes and their team puts them under like control and they can't access their bank accounts and stuff? A conservatorship? Is that what it's called? I know what you're talking about. I don't know. But they did to Britney Spears. We need to do that to Bramperjamescape.

We need to put Bramperjamski under a media conservators. Okay. Just for the media. Just for the media so we can't talk to anybody. We need to decide when he can talk to him to a mic. What's your first team, Isaac? Los Angeles Lakers. That boy ass, man.

One B quotes without the 1B talent. We gotta stop, man. Let's talk about the Lakers. Obviously, they have a lot of issues. Naturally, my point to the defense and say they're not good enough to be a championship caliber team. My man, what's up with your boy? Who's my boy?

Luca. What's up with him? I guess what you're getting that. You might actually point to the defense say it's not good enough to win a championship, and that's their biggest flaw. That just is what it is. They're never going to be a good defensive team. I don't really care in terms of talking about that because we know that.

The roster doesn't have the necessities to be a top 10 defense at any point. To win games, to win playoff series, to be this sneaky team you don't want to see in the first round because they're veteran leadership and having the best player on the court, yada, yada, they've got to be a goddamn unstoppable offense. And the biggest issue is they are not goddamn unstoppable, especially against good teams. They are Omega stoppable whenever a good team

that the Celtics walk through the door. They are unbelievably stoppable, actually. Especially when the three best players on the court. LeBron James, Reeves, Luga Donchich. Not a huge sample size yet, but they just aren't clicking well enough to even like negotiate the rest of this value proposition of this team.

If those three guys aren't going to be the best version of themselves all together at the same time, they have no chance. I love this. Not too much. Not too much. Not too much.

I love this. Lakers downfall. I know, I love it. Wait, what? Why? Whoa. I'm a Lakers fan. I know.

He has to hate. Why? Well, why love the Laker downfall? Why not? Donovan is a Hater you will ever meet in your life. Jesus. I do not like the Lakers. That's not something I root for.

No, don't worry. The Knicks are coming up soon. We'll also get to flame him as a Knicks fan. So we'll get our get back in time. Bro, the most damning stat that I've seen all morning was that when LeBron, Leuke and Reesplay, there are minus eight. And they played a lot. They made a lot of minutes together, bro.

This is not, this duo is just not, like, actually conducive at all. They have, like, little to no synergy, specifically between, like, LeBron and Luca as well. There's just no, like, flow. There's no go-to moves. The actions between each other aren't necessarily additive or working as well. It's really not there to begin with. Reeves is, like, the good middle point. He has good chemistry between Luca and also LeBron as well.

But, bro, like, whenever LeBron or Luca has the ball, LeBron's just staying in the corner waiting, just watching, bro, moving around aimlessly. The series has no purpose. LeBron's doing the right things. Okay, so obviously there's the Luca conversation everybody's having, right, about his style of play. And I do think he's been too much of a gunner this year. He doesn't have the playmaking instincts he once did on the Mavericks because he clearly doesn't trust the lineup around him.

He feels like he has to go out there and be a volume shooter because he doesn't like his lot of threats. He doesn't trust his shooters. And he's in full. I got to score 35 to win mode. Not I'm going to be this genius cerebral playmaker that sees people get to open before they do. That's always been his emode to both the same time. I don't feel like he's doing a good job at that

while also being a bad defender again because this team does not have the necessary pieces to hide him defensively. So he deserves his own faults, right? End of the day, LeBron took a big step back this year because the injury and because the age. He can't shoot threes

and he has been a bad rim finisher for about two years now. If that's going to be the case, you can't be a good LucaDonts teamate if you can't be a play finisher from three or the rim consistently. His best scoring this year is shooting post fades against mismatches,

which is cool, but if you can't do the other offball stuff at a super high level, it's just tough to even start. Yeah, it's bad, brother. The complimentary pieces is bad. I don't know. I feel like it's, I just think the roster construction as a whole is just really, really bad with the Lakers.

It's even more than like the big three not fitting well with one another. But yeah, LeBron, it's a lot, bro. LeBron, LeBron not be able to shoot threes is like something I did not expect. It's literally, I think it's like his second worst three-point shooting season of his entire career. That's crazy. Then on top of that, Luca, for whatever reason, is acting. as if like he's on the 06 Lakers instead of the 2026. He acting like he's out there with Smush Parker and Kawamee Brown.

I have no idea why he'd be taking all those shots. I just don't understand that. That's what Gabe Vinson would do to you, man. Oh, man. How different are Swish Parker in 20-Ju-Juix is Gabe Vincent's? That is true. And then on top of that, yeah, the rest of the pieces, like, it's even beyond Gabe. Like, everybody else is really bad.

And then as we're recording this, like, when I woke up, I looked, and it was like a report that DeAndre Aitin talking about he's not Clint Capella and I'm like man This is tough man Like y'all just coming out of what works With a bunch of like slander like what's going on So the worst name you could have ever

Possibly used to because Pete Clint Was way better than the players And that's precisely who he should be Yeah we had the report that he said they're trying to make me Clincapella I ain't no Clincapella Because he wants to get his mid-range jumpers off They wish he was Clinkepella I wake up every morning I pray to God he turns

in Cluckepella I wake up and I pray for forgiveness for hoping he's Klincapella because apparently I'm an idiot for wine that for D'Andra Aten and there's another part of this article where they said on the sideline they gave him water bottles that they write, I forget the exact verbage they used It was something that said

DA's crunk juice that they tried to get him to drink his water out of to get him motivated like he's a fucking 10 year old. Nah bad. He's a fucking 10 year old. You need crook juice to try hard on the boards? Crunk juice. Yeah, it's crunk juice that's going over to

DJ's like play this specific song it's Aiton's favorite. Play Mo Bamba, he'll freak out. Play Panito, don't grow hard. This fucking baby, what the hell? That's crazy. That's crazy. But yeah, so Gabe Vincent, I'm sure Lucas sees him and see Swish Parker.

I'm serious. He sees Aiden and he sees Quamey Brown. So I think he probably does feel like Kobe in 06, which is unfortunate because he doesn't need to be that. A lot's been made on Twitter about him having the highest usage rate of his career and LeBron having the lowest of his career. People are taking obsession with that. I think it makes sense that LeBron has the lowest usage rate of his career.

This is the worst has ever been. I would like the Luca part to even out a little bit with Austin Reeves as the season goes on. Yeah, the Luca stuff is crazy. I think at this point, we're just going to take big picture narrative-wise. Okay. Narrative-wise, I will never, ever in my life, go into a season. Yes. And if Luca Dodgers is in the top three of MVP outs, I'm never ever going to say, yeah,

Luca's going to win MVP. If you are not going to do it this year, you will never do it. You know what's funny? That's it. You know what's funny? We criticize him a lot because he has high standards. he is on a 50 win pace in the Western Conference averaging 3399 or something like

he does have like a first team all NBA caliber season but what you just said treating it like it would be like a bastardization if he was required if he was talked about as any type of top tier player is crazy the levels that we criticize him because he's still great

there was so there was so much made about like you getting in shape you're on the cover of men's health and now we're hit and now we're here and now we're here and now what did you remash you last Clock it

We're here in February And the defense is as bad as it's ever been The complaining is as bad as it's ever been The chucking is as bad And then whenever we need you to chuck, You freeze up and you throw a grenade to LeBron And you don't chuck it in that moment I see I see what this is

There's so many things that we can go down the line And like I'm not going to lie Listen In this current moment Nico Harrison is rubbing his hands together and he said it's coming all together he said I told you I told you

rubbing his hands in that unemployment line he'd get in that severance check you know his money's his text are still clearing and I do think that like if obviously there's it's it's obviously more than

than just Luca like the whole the whole team as a whole is not in a position to win a championship bro we should have known they're down bad when this motherfucker over here. And also, plenty of other Lakers fans who, you guys are right. We're claiming for Rue Hachemir to come off the bench. He's been coming off the bench.

Didn't change Jack's shit at all. Yes, it did. Actually, that part, it did. It did. Well, not me. As a Hawks fan. Let's get out of here. Listen, different standards right now.

That actually did help, though. Their new starting lineup is solid. The new starting line is a 117 offensive rating, which would be seventh in the NBA right now. Like, the new starters with Marcus Smart is much better than when it had Rue Hachamor. Like, there was no chance of them to ever feel anything respectable defensively with Aiton, Ruey, and LeBron

in the court together, that just was never going to work. So that was the one good thing that J.J. Reddick has done in the past few weeks. Outside of that, I'm looking at J.J. Reddick, and I'm like, man, what are you doing? What do you do? That's a good. Pat Riley, by the way.

Yeah, Pat Rod, the list of stars on rampant. Oh, brother. Oh, my God, bro. I don't feel like he has a good control over Luca right now as a coach. I feel like Lucas is doing whatever the fuck he wants, which that is a luca. prerogative it's hard to coach luca i'm sure j jredic has seemed to take in the pro star approach to let him cook and we're built around them i don't i think as the years go on he gets more experience

i think he'll look back and say i should have been a little bit harder on lucca this year how many more years he got he got he just signed his contract so i think he'll be there for us yeah but now they got rich owner so they don't mind spending money if gizabeth is still the main owner maybe he'd be here for life because she's broke and doesn't want to pay two coaches were demanded off though he'll pay three coaches at once if it was needed listen man coaches get fired every day it happens all the time

Adrian Griffin got fired and you're one before your contract if they didn't he'd go back to podcasting immediately immediately that's what the money is he had a very successful media career he's immediately going back but yeah like the the Lakers there they're cooked for this year it's not it's not happening yeah so can they win a playoff series like they probably they can win a

playoff series still can't like possible yes well they're viz not against the Rockets in the first round they can't be the Rockets I would say the Rock the Rockets is probably the only team I feel comfortable saying they can be. Everybody else, though, like six and up, I don't, I don't think they can be. Even with the Rockets, that's a very close matchup. Yeah, it's not a walk in the park at all. Yeah.

It's not, okay, it's not a walk in the park. Oh, let's not about the Rockets. That's my next team. It's going six games. Yeah. Let's slide with the Rockets. This is my team. I'll let you, clearly you are opinionated about the Rockets after how much you did, dismiss them.

I don't know. I mean, obviously. their biggest weakness is group chats. But, I mean, I'm saying, you know, that, I don't know, like the team, like, they won, I can't remember who they beat recently. But, like, they looked really, really good in that game. But, like, ever since that news came out, it's been a lot of games where it's just been like, oh, yeah, Katie, he might have been on this song, you know what I'm saying.

It's been bad, but, I mean, he wasn't lying. That's the thing. He was never wrong about, like, he said. He was never wrong. He said, allegedly, are you being responsible on this podcast or are we still? Oh, no. We did our episode. I've been told him I knew about the group chats for years and we know it's true. So you all, y'all know? Yeah, they were already aggregating me for saying I've been knowing about it.

Because one of my friends is in the group chat, so I've known about it since the Brooklyn Nets Day. Oh, same with me. One of my friends is in there too. Oh, man. We couldn't do about this shit. Yeah. Same. I was actually. No, you're not. Yeah, that's nasty. That's nasty. But you actually, you know what? Somebody that me and B. So's no. Maybe two of them was in the group chat. Bro, there's a hell of them. Like, there's a hell of you want. Reveal these identities now. Well, one of the guys screenshot it.

One of them got screenshots it, so he's in the screenshots. But yeah, it's bad. But a lot of things that KD said, I mean, the group chats is bad and the chemistry is probably in the dirt, regardless of how many videos they may put on social media. But, like, that, that offense is bad. That's a hard watch. And we already knew that their offense is going to be bad. When Stephen Adams, not Stephen Adams, Fred Van Valek got hurt in the beginning. of the season. And then Stephen Adams went down. So that little fake offensive

rebounding gimmick, that kind of went out the window. That's not fake. It's not fake, but it's a gimmick. It's a real gimmick. It's a real gimmick. That was like foundational. I want everybody to see how when I say something about the Rockies, here come Donovan running to, you know, defend them. But when it was the Lakers, it was open season. Don't worry about it. We get to the next. First of all, and I will say, we don't have to like put our hands up and be like oh we're noticing i'm doing that i'm gonna openly hate on the lakers we are we are doing that i i do i i also agree with everything that that you that's that you're saying and i think like today like they have a game today against against

orlando i care more about this game than the last two wins because they played utah and like they they they beat them and you know shakoon look like yokech against sacramento those guys suck yeah and so like i don't i don't really care about about either one of those games the last They played the Knicks on Saturday, a game against a team that's actually going to be in the playoffs, and they blew an 18-point lead in the fourth quarter. So when you actually get into games against teams that can be in the playoff conversation, then let's actually see what you can do. But yeah, like they suck on offense. Yeah, it really does boil back to for injury, like you said. They just never recover from that.

Like we're all expected. The Steve Adams thing took away that extra added bonus to make up for the lack of playmaking and now they're super cooked. they can't really play their best offensive lineups and their best defensive lines the same time right now. They kind of have to choose one or the other with Reed Shepherd versus Tarry Yason versus what they want to do

with double bigs or single bigs. That's a problem. Shinguin hasn't been a good score once again after that hot start. I think come play out time, teams are just going to guard him one on one and say, listen, I know you're cute drawing these double teams and kicking out the passers.

That's your whole MO as a player is to draw a double and create a good play. If we ask you to beat this as a score, while you shoot 52% at the rim fucking seven foot or damn near, that's embarrassing. we're going to ask you to be this one-on-one all playoffs because we have a big guy that can just stand in front of you

that's going to fall apart. It's playmaking isn't disappear. And then Kevin Durant is the opposite problem where his scoring is going to be there but the way his handle is developed right now, hard for him to create a paint touch. Low, is that a trigger? No, it's not a trigger.

Okay. Hard for him to create a paint touch even more than a couple years ago. Hard for him to be a playmaker. So if one star can only be a playmaker, not a score, one star can only be a score or not a playmaker, it's real hard to have a dynamic offense. And then in between all of that,

you just have a bunch of one-way players. Reed Shepherd, Amin Thompson, Tari, East, and then I guess Jabar Smith, Jr. isn't like a necessary one-way player. He plays kind of both ways, but still, very limited as a score as well, right? And then what makes this all even worse, too, is that you don't have a coach in IMA Udocho who's necessarily the most, like, inventive, offensive mind out there at all. He's going to, of course, like, do gimmick yourself, and he's going to see, like, the obvious way to give his team the best chance to win.

But he's not necessarily going to put guys like Amin Thompson or Reed Shepherd. Those are like the biggest annoyances in my mind that I have when it comes to Ami Yudoka, how he's utilizing these guys. Well, like, Amin Thompson is one of the more athletic, explosive, probably the most explosive player in the league right now. I can say that no bat and I. He, like, in some positions that I see him, in some of the spots that I see him utilize on the court, I understand it. But I also want to see him like be in the post more. I want to see him like be a fucking screener more often than not here and there. There's so much like nuanced things that I want to see.

happen that just don't happen yeah it's just a weird a lot of puzzle pieces they don't fit together you're not maximizing anybody because of it friend of invalit would be the savior and that's tough it would be fun right now obviously the standards are going to change right now we would get a rocket slakers first round straight that would be great yeah that'd be amazing it would be fun it's going to seven man love what your next team that's disgusting um my next team pistons pistons man good one it's gonna be bad because i'm already been being being as like a Cade Hater for whatever reason. But the Pistons, like, their biggest weakness is, like, not having another

creator on their roster at all. It's basically just Cade Hoops. I've been watching them a little bit more recently. The first, like, 20 games I was kind of on off, but over the last, like, 30 or so, I mean, I've been really watching and paying attention when Cade is off the floor. Ig is really, really shaky. Like, Jenkins is the only, like, other ball handler they have on their team. Shout out to Red Velvet, Kevin Herder.

That hasn't really been the greatest addition. so far yet and hopefully it would have gotten better. And the Jaden Ivy, him trying to kind of bounce back from a bad season, coming back from injury and then trying to insert him stuff into this team. That didn't work out either. And so it's just really been a lot of Cade Hoops. I think that's probably a big reason why there is such a push for him to be, uh, uh, that's crazy.

I think that's a huge reason why is many people pushing him for MVP, but like, bro, when Cade is off the floor, It gets shaky. And there's even times when Kate, when he's on the floor, it still get bad. Beasles. He had a historically bad shooting game against the court. Talk us to this tweet, Beasles. I can see he's cracking you up.

The Pissons offense for a four-playoff round. And it's the dude from Diamond Jee. And does that scare you as a Celtics fan? Jason Tatum's around the corner. Does the pisses put fear in your heart? Man, if that borderline 71 Caps team didn't scare me last season, this Pissons team is not scaring me, man. we're good in the east.

Entitled motherfucker, but he's right. Can't hate it. But yeah, it's tough. They just don't have the playmaking. We've all said it. People wanted to make a trade deadline move because of that. And it's not because you don't have the playmaking or the shooting. It's really, really hard to overcome.

We know they can do it in the playoffs to some degree. I think they can do it in the playoffs to some degree. Obviously, like everybody in the playoffs this year, it's super matchup dependent. If they go against a certain team that it works against a certain charm and soft team full of podcasters like the New York Knicks, They can bludgeon them to death. Jayland Darren isn't have his way with that drop coverage. Cates didn't have his way picking at Jalen Brunson, picking at Kat, they'll be fine.

But if they go against a team like the Celtics who have a Jason Tatum back in the lineup, who maybe won't be the same offensively right away, but probably will be a damn good defender no matter what. And they have a 6-9 guy who can defend centers and a bunch of other guard defenders who can block shots at the rim like Derek White. It's going to be real hard, real fast when they shrink the floor. Yeah, at this point it's just annoying because every time that you see the piss-ins and a bad, like offensive low, you knew that this was going to be it. And everybody has been saying this, not only for this year, but even last year,

trying to, trying to push them even forward, like forward as they were making their, their ascension. And so it's like, man, you guys are just stubborn. Like, you guys, you guys deserve to be in this, in the situation because you could have made even like a smaller move to get somebody in the building to have a little bit more offensive juice. And they just, they just never did it. And it's tough.

It's tough mostly for Cade because last playoffs, he was so overtaxed. And he wilted himself in the moment. moment a little bit with his shot making. It wasn't good enough on his own part. The turn of his word bad. But man, it was hard for him to try to make it work with that offensive creation around him last year with all the double teams he was getting. Hopefully he learned from that will be better. He's better in pretty much every on-ball play type this year. He's improved. So I do have faith that it won't be quite as bad. But I can completely imagine a scenario where the exact same thing happens and he shoots tour dates because it's just impossible for him

to create unless he was Sheigildos Alexander or Luca Donchette, one of the premier scores at the position. It's just impossible to succeed in that environment and it's a good defense. I just I see him getting set up for another slaughter fest on Twitter. Especially with the PR buzz of the MVP conversations, the teardowns will be even harder. It honestly happened in like one game because the Spurs game didn't go well and everyone's like, ah, this is the guy that you were propping up like immediately. So he's like, yeah, he has to, he has to work. I'm sorry.

I mean, it was a bad game. It was a historically bad shooting. It was one of the worst shooting games of all time. Actually, literally it was. I mean, that thing that was justifiable. Like it really was a bad game. I can't hold you. Yeah.

Now, would that happen four times in a row in a playoff series? I would hope not, but they don't exactly have a good environment to, like, facilitate him not doing that.

Five for 26 is. It's a lot. And like you said, it's not going to happen four times. Also, Wemby and Castle are walking through those doors. Yeah.

So that helps certainly. Listen, Kat and Brenton are going to do that to you. But once again, they are at the most armish shop through the conference. He dragging it.

He dragging that. Am I? dragging that hate that. You know, Brutton not going to be defending I mean, come on now, let's be He's not going to be on it. He's going to run away

When they try to screen guard to guard And get him on him. He's definitely avoiding that Every, every day of the week. They're not going to let him. I told you, I got OG for him. Good luck. And we can screen him off him.

Good God. He's a good guy. Like, OG's not like that. Come on. All right. He held him in check last year. Yeah, yeah. You got it, bro.

That's it. He went, you, he didn't. Like you. All right. What's your next thing, Donovan? We will go with the Toronto Raptors. Okay.

Their biggest weakness is bucket getting. Yep. They, and it's getting buckets, and it's also just like style of play. Like, they play super slow. And I don't understand why they play so slow because they are trying to feed Brandon Ingram the ball every single time down and say, you are, you are, K, you are Shae, you are Luca. Carious.

And he's a good player, but he's just not that. And so, like, they really limit the amount of opportunities that they have in, like, last night's game against the Spurs was the perfect example for that of they were, they were up very handily in that game. San Antonio could not get anything right. Like, you could tell that they were coming off of a very, like, physical game with Detroit. They were missing layups. They were turning the ball over.

They were just so lack of days ago with everything. And then they're just slowly but surely, Toronto less than back in the game. The shots don't start, the shot stopped falling. as frequently. And then once we get to crunch time, they had like four straight possessions where it was just Brandon Ingram Isso, Brandon Ingram Isso, Brandon Ingram Isso,

and he's taking tough shot after tough shot after tough shot. And when he is not making shots at a super, super high clip, the offense is going to falter. You know, it's interesting. They are a slow team in the half court, like you said. They're also a first in the league

in transition offense frequency. So they run really hard in transition but are really slow in the half court. It's such like an interesting team to even think about that way, because, like, they're not slow, but they're not fast. I don't know how to imagine that translates to the playoffs. I mean, I think just, like, the half court stuff of playing, of playing slow is, like,

you got to give yourself, like, your gimmick, right? You just have to, you have to give yourself other opportunities. And so, like, that's what the Rockets have really leaned into, which is, like, we know, we know we're going to miss, like, we're going to have these offensive rebounds. If you know that you don't have the greatest offensive talent and the best creation, you should want to create some type of variance, some type of chaos, and even just starting to play three seconds faster than what you do normally would help. And so there were just, there's a lot of times when you're watching Toronto and you're like,

can we go? You know what you're describing? You're describing exactly why RJ Barrett is so important for them and why there's dissonance where everybody that isn't a Raptors fan is like RJ Barrett sucks, trade him. Raptors fans are like, no, we only win when he's there because they have nobody that can just drive off a pick and roll and get to the paint fast. That's not Brandon Ingram's MO. That's not Scottie Ball.

Barnes, M.O. RJ Barrett, we'll slash. Yeah. It's like the one guy that does that makes everything makes sense. It would be nice to the guy that does that was like better.

But at least he does it. RJ Barrett glue guy. On it. Oh, no, wrong. Yes, that's crazy. It's the one team where he's the glue guy.

No, I agree. And the round of the rockets, he'd be the glue guy for that reason. It's a tough reality, man. It's not a good place to be. No, no, we need R.J. Stop. All right.

That's so nasty, dude. That's so nasty. But shout out, shout to B.I. Because he's getting treated like he is like a number one. He's like the most Chris Middleton player I've never seen in my life. Like, slander. Damn. Not like, I mean, he gets, I should disrespect for the Chris Middleton.

You're looking about Chris Middleton. Yeah. Chris Milton versus Pete B.I. That is true, bro. I don't know, though. I mean, if B.I played with P. Yonis, he probably might look pretty similar. That helps a lot. I don't think if Chris Middleton was playing on the rafters.

When we think about him is just, untouchable guy. Yeah, long, lost, he's not, he shouldn't be the go-to guy offensive. Yeah,

should be like your second go-to guy, but like, he is, that's what he's, like, turning out to be. And if that's the case,

yeah, your offense is, that's tough, man, that's tough, man. If that's how your offense getting buckets and a half court is nasty.

But yeah, I don't, I don't really know how I just want to translate. But shout out to Dick, though, man. Shout out to Dick. He was 512th of finishing

at the hole. If he got so much worse, it's ridiculous. So much worse. Never forget. Mo, what's your next team? My next team, we can go ahead and, ah, man, this pains me. My last team, their biggest issue was health.

And my next team, again, their biggest issue, once again, is health. It's Cleveland Cavaliers. Because we just found out, I think last night of this morning, that James Hardin is out for who knows how long with a fractured thumb. This team right here over the last, really, like, throughout this entire. or like Donovan Mitchell era, I've just been hampered with injuries in and out consistently, bro. And we brought in, they brought in James Harden, who we all thought his biggest selling point was his health. He's going to be there. He's not going to be like Darius Garland, who would just be in and out constantly.

He's out again. Like, I don't know what's going on over there in Cleveland. I don't know what type of water they be feeding their point guard specifically. But I don't remember the last time a point guard has been there and a point guard's been, like, fully healthy, right? It just happens throughout their history of their organization. Yeah, and it was reported that he's going to play through it. He missed his last game. We'll see how many games until he's in a place where he can't play through it.

It's a fracture on the tip of his non-shooting hand thumb. So it could be worse. It could be worse, but it's also not great. Especially when, you know, James Hardin helped him a lot. And he came in reinvigorated Jared Allen as a score. The pick and rolls unlocked. They clearly got better with the state of Darius Garland's health. It's not like they had no issues before that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So tough now that you already. You already had issues to figure out. Now the main way to figure it out is gone. Just a bad circumstance. Oh, my God. Uno's all right, man. Why do you like to do this?

You love... Exactly. And why do you like to do this? Uno is actually his nickname, though. I understand this, but you specifically... You like to call people by their number. It's tough. It's tough.

He loves alter egos, man. Exactly. Bad ones, though. It's a bad gimmick. Am I only one? I don't. I don't really think that's their weakness. I think their biggest weakness is, like, they don't have any perimeter defense at all.

Yeah, that's the real one. Hard doesn't help at all. Like, not even, like, I guess shout out to Jalen Tyson. Keon-L is also a really good addition, but he's more like point of attack rather than a wing. That was my biggest concern, like going into a series, even as bad as, like, the Pistons' offense can be. There's just no one that they have on that team that they can throw at, like, Cade, no one that they can throw at, Mackale or OG, if they ever, like, have really good stress. especially McKell, no one that they can throw at J.B. Like, there's a lot of teams out in the East that have bigger guards and ball

handlers that they just don't have anyone at all to throw at. And that was going to be really, really concerning, which then meant that you're going to have to see even more lineups that feature both Mowgli and Allen. So I didn't, that's, that was my biggest reservation. I don't think, I think Hardin is going to, you know, not only going to play through the injury. I think he should be fine. Like, I think that they're going to, they're going to continue to progress in the East, especially the team above them is a trash-ass nicks.

So that's such a fun. When you have bums around you, it's not hard to stand up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I don't think the thumb, I think my biggest concern with them is like they need wing defenders. Who's their best wing defender right now? Come play out of time. Who's going to get the Jalen Brown assignment in the first round?

If he's assuming notatim their lead score, Dean Wade? Good grief, man. It's getting spooky, bro. Yikes. I mean, Jaylen Tyson will probably get it. I'm not sure he's Jalen. But, like, he's been a, like, had been a revelation mostly because of his offense. Exactly.

Defensively, I don't feel like he's a problem, but he's like, doesn't blow me away. He's very like whatever, bro. Over the last few years for the Cavas, it's so funny because they've been like stuck with Isaac O'I, Isaac O'Coro, who's been like a very good defender for them, but he gave them absolutely nothing consistently on offense. You've seen over the last few years or a couple of years ago in a Boston Celtic series. It was basically a four on five out there because he just would not shoot threes. And if he would, like it's clanking off the side of the backboard, right?

Every single time. And now they fully want this other side where they have. Max Struce, who the fuck knows what happened to him? He does not play at all. He's been hampered with injuries throughout the entirety of the year. They had someone like DeAndre Hunter who's been, you know, he can be a decent defender throughout the times of his career, but they fucking traded him. And then his eye fucking exploded just a couple.

It's like two weeks ago, bro. So no one knows what the fuck's going on. They have no one, no answers at all at this position for the last like two, two and a half years or so. So it sucks. Tough. Let's move over to those week-ass nicks. What do I say? What do I say about the Knicks?

I do have the Knicks. I do have the Knicks. I have those weak as Knicks. You got to scroll a list, bro. That's crazy. Obviously they're soft. I think, what does that translate to? They're an offensive-oriented team with two stars that are only good at offense and suck shit at defense.

And I don't trust their offense. That's the hardest part. That's the biggest weakness. I do not trust mostly because of the level of score at Katzbin this year. I just feel like they have everything you need theoretically. they have the dynamic point guard, they have the score secondary creator from the big man position, wings in between that can handle as much the defense as they can, get to a new respectable level. They're the 12th defense for the year, third offense.

I have zero faith that that will hold against really good teams in the playoffs consistently. Because the genetic makeup of the players. Okay. Lo would you like to add to this? Oh, thank you for asking me. Yeah, of course, of course. I don't know. I agree that like any lineup that's going to consist of.

two players that quite literally just do not play defense is tough, especially when one of them is your five and you have to like go out there and play defense and try and give minutes adequately. That sucks. Shout out to Mike Brown. He's not done the tibode route. He's actually, you know, shared the minutes a little bit. So there's more players coming off your bench that will impact. But any lineup that is going to have to consist of Jalen Brown and Carl Anthony Towns.

It's just bad. And we saw a little bit of that last year as well. So yeah, like, and on top of that time. He's just not like, you know, offensively, he ain't really piecing together. It was like a stretch of the year where I was like, hey, I thought towns, is that Towns three-point shooting? Top, man. That was, that was bad. It was crazy.

He was crazy. He was looking like Philadelphia Al Horford on offense. It was nuts. That's, that's a nasty comparison. And he has to be like, if he's not going to be the best offensive player at his position outside of Yokech, this team structure will not work. Like, he needs to be dynamic. He needs to be the best version you've ever seen of him, not the worst. How much money you get paid pay next year?

All of it. Don't worry about that. Don't worry about that. Yeah, 57 million next year. Don't worry about that. Now I'll pick up for that. Now all of a sudden everybody wants to be in accounting. Just watch ball, man.

Just watch the games. Everybody's a CPA now. Relax. No, but it is, it is true. Like, bro, if you go back and you look at the playoff run last year, specifically the Piston series, the shots that Kat was taking and making were insane. I mean, he's falling out of bounds, shooting the ball over the backboard. He's taking pull-up threes from like 40, from, you know, 30 feet out. It's ridiculous. And he was extremely

timely. And I think he's at a couple games recently where it's starting to look a little bit better. But then even in the game against Cleveland, he was five for five in that game, right? Played 29 minutes. You know why he played 29 instead of 30? Because he had five fouls. Because every time that he checked into the game, it's another foul. And so it's extremely hard for him to to play. defense and to play defense not foul and still shoot well and we just haven't seen that over a consistent stretch and so yeah if he's not if he's not knocking down the the three ball for for like 40% from the field if he's not being super super aggressive if he's not taking advantage of every single matcher whether it be taking advantage of somebody smaller in the post or blowing by a center

on the on the perimeter I don't really know how to how to get here like it really is crazy that Jaylen Brunson and Landry Shammit that back court has like saved a lot of the offense. They're playing a lot of cards now. They're playing a lot of guys. It's a lot. Alvarado has come in.

He's helped a little bit more. But then you start looking around and, okay, when Deuce comes back, how are you going to play in a playoff series? Meaningful minutes. Jalen Brunson, Shamit, Alvarado, and Deuce McBride. And Hart's 6'4.

I know he does some good bigger guy stuff, but he's not big. And his, listen, he is shooting, he's shooting well from three on paper. I'm going to need that for real, for real to be like timely. I need a timely 40%. I don't need you to shoot 100% today and like 0% tomorrow, right? Like I need every single game to be 40% and that's not necessarily what it is. So, yeah, you can't really trust the offense right now.

So I do, I understand all the criticisms that come with the Knicks. Bezos, I asked you, are you? scared of the pistons as a Celtics fan. How do you feel when you watch the next roll up to TD Garden? I'm not going to lie. I need to be careful because I talked a lot of shit going into the next series last season. Traumatizing. So I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt and say I am more scared of them than the other teams in the East because I've seen them knock us out.

But I'd like to see you do it again. That's all I'm going to say. I'd like to see you do it again. We will. No. Who's the weak as fuck? Who's the second seat? The second seat right now.

Who's the seventh seat? Right now, the Celtics are the two, the magic of the seven. Oh, no, not. You're supposed to go with a bit. It's the heat. Miami is his thrill. That's the team that he's terrified. That's the real trauma.

That's the real trauma right there. And when Moe said the cats at Max Truce, I was like, you don't know about Max Troops against the Celtics. I'm always giving me fits, dogs. You're not familiar Matt's from three years ago Dave Vincent and Caleb Martin Against us

Now if Dean Wade walked him to a Miami Heat jersey He'd break your heart Yeah That would be the most Break the Southling's heart player ever Remember that one Don't remind me

Yeah it's got a memory lanes Let's go What were you thinking In 2020 23 when your team got upset And Jimmy Butler made his way To be the finals Man Tatum if you didn't roll your ankle

Man Oh I forgot about it Andrew Wiggins on that team too, though. I know he was giving you night. Oh, fuck. I forgot. Yeah, I know he giving you nightmares.

Yeah. And 30. Oh, Curry. There you go. There you go. See you. Lo, what's your next team? Yeah, because that's such a nasty fake gimmick is ridiculous.

Hey, make him off the screen. Um, well, I pass it already. Hold on. Actually, ironically enough, it's the Celtics. Let's go. Get him back on the screen. Yeah, the J.B. ball handling stuff is not real. And I don't know, like a lot of stuff.

You've been in real time. No left hand gimmick still? That's the real gimmick. No, I mean, to be fair, shout out to J.B. He's having a great season. I do think that, like, the numbers are indicative of what I see on the floor. Like I'm not getting caught up in like PRA numbers

What happened? What happened? Yo, Donovan stomach? Just roared, bro. Oh, Oh, Oh,

we thought that was I'm sorry. I thought that was a car of sight. He's just sidelized. He's just sidelite me like, bro, please don't say nothing. I got to say something. You fucking monster.

I haven't eaten anything this morning. I'm hoping this tea keeps me through. Somebody to get this guy. Is the tea? How do you know that. You get a pepto miss whole man. Please. Um.

Yeah, yeah, it's just the J.B. Ball handling the responsibilities. I know they've done a good job with, like, Derek White and Peyton Pitcher, like, handling the ball. And when Tatum comes back, they're going to be someone else. But Tatum is not going to be 100 percent. At the end of day in the playoffs, half-court setting, you're going to need a little bit more, like, on-ball creation from somebody,

and it's going to be left up to J.B. Also, like, the three-point shooting gimmick that they did last year, it kind of ran its course. That could seriously happen again, like, where it just falls off. Not just seriously happen. It's like way more inclined to happen again. Like this team is way more reliant on the gimmick than they were last year.

Even with Derek White and Pritcher, like they've been so good as the ball hands because they've been incredible at creating threes, opportunities for themselves and others. They clearly just they're super prone this year to having cold spells, which hasn't happened tremendously amount of times in the Celtics regular season. Come playoff time. If you had that fear last year, if you had that fear in 2024 and they're one of the best teams of all time, you should be terrified of that reality this year. And I'm glad that you brought up the Tatum return.

because I do think a lot of people are getting very ahead of themselves. And like, oh, yeah, Tatum's going to be back. He's, he, he will play this year. Like, I do understand that. But also, it is not reasonable for anybody to expect that he can even get to 70% immediately. What's reasonable? I actually don't, like, have any. I don't, I don't know what to expect.

I think, I think at this point, Tatum coming back at like this, this early before, before a year ends, especially for somebody like as as good as he is it is faster than anybody could have anticipated so so if you want to just take that and he recovered really quickly everything that he's going to do is going to be ahead of schedule and unprecedented i guess i still think that you are asking a player who at his best is one of the five best players in in the world to to come back and and immediately at his absolute best you heard him right i has absolute best i have absolutely best I also don't feel like getting into that right now. Yeah, yeah.

What he means is he rank him exactly at five before and when he ascended. Yes. Exactly at five. Thank you. Okay. One of the five best players. That's all I heard. No higher.

Exactly at five. Anyway. Do you think he should come back though? Should is an interesting word here. I think, yes. I would say yes, because the Celtics are, the Celtics are good enough for him to come back. So I would say yes. And also like the East is super getable.

So if you can, if all the doctors say that it's cool and if you feel comfortable, okay, like you're a basketball player. Let's play basketball. What's the reason you to expect? Like it's such a, we talked about it obviously for the whole past six months. It's so unprecedented to be this age, this specific type of player that needs to be athletic but isn't like hyper athletic come back with his short recovery time and a team that he won't play the same exact role, but he will be important.

like what is a reasonable outcome to expect versus like best case scenario so okay so that's so that's a good a good question and one i don't know and i think i think i think ultimately what i'm what i'm saying is i think people need to open their their minds up to the idea that he can come back and play bad and like that might happen because i do think that a lot of the tatum conversation is like oh he's going to step back in and then the subjects are going to be primed to make the eastern to conference finals or the finals or anything. There's a world where he hasn't played basketball in a year and he's coming off of one of the most devastating injuries.

He could come back and shoot tour dates. And like that that is, that's also very much on the board. He does that already. I think being out of rhythm as a shooter is probably the biggest downside, I think. Just out of missing time. Like, I don't know what to expect from him physically. He probably won't be to blow by people the same or power through small guys down the post the same.

That'll probably take time to get confidence back. the biggest downside to me is he just is broke from three because he missed so much time and it's just not a rhythm playing right now. Probably turns a ball over a lot. Do you think, let's say he comes back, what's expected like the beginning of March? He's in March 1st. Let's say he comes back March 1st and he has. Which is Sunday.

Would that be six weeks before the playoff start? About, yeah. Six weeks to get his feet under him. That's a good amount of time to get a rhythm, I think, for a young player. I just don't. I just say don't do it, bro. I feel it's, like, I know it's the east is very getable. But like, you're, you're throwing.

yourself out there and trying to do something that I don't really like what it results in at what at best like a finals appearance like I just don't I don't know if that's yeah that's a lot that's a pretty good at best that's a pretty good at best I know but I mean for for and it'd be one thing if they were like the Knicks like for example where they haven't made the finals or they haven't had that much success or really been irrelevant for a very long period of time and don't really have that much success in their team history and last time they've really been anything is Patrick Ewing. Maybe if that was them, then sure.

But like Boston's been so successful. It's like, am I going to really do that when I know for a fact next year we can just run it back up? Because I don't really believe nobody's going to eat. I mean, it's a, it's, I don't think you should ever or any like NBA team for real ever like squander away any opportunities because it's like, you know, East's wide open blah, blah, blah. Like anything can happen in any given year. Jaylon Brown could have something catastrophic happened to him. You never know at the end of the day. And I think why I'd probably be more pro Jason Tatum coming back than anti it is because

bare room at the end of the day, you get another smart player in the building. You get another player who can sit down and playmate for you at a decent level, regardless of what status that Achilles is going to be. Now when it comes to what he's going to look like defensively, I assume he's not going to tank you on that end of the floor. Can he at least like, go ahead, place solid defense, make simple reads, be another brain who can make this offense continuously, like continuously hum while also take away

Nicole of Wusufich's minutes. That's something that no one really cares about for a little because he's only been there for like seven games. He's looked absolutely fucking horrid, but right now if they could redo that Anfrey Simon's traded. I'd have Anthony Simons right now because Wusovitch's sued like 43%

from the field right now. It's a big. It's been bad. I thought he's been all right. But yeah, Roussewish never blow me away. Yeah, he was kind of dragging it.

Yeah. Horrific. He's been past. He's been fine. He's been one of their minutes, but yeah, he's not never, I don't want him playing big minutes in playoffs to your point. Yeah. But I just kind of trust that they're not going to do it unless it makes sense, that they're

not going to put him in danger. So because it's on the table and is reasonably being taken seriously by the Celtics organization, I'm just trusting that it's okay and that the question marks around, is it worth it for you and your long-term future have been answered internally and they've deemed it to be worth it. And if they deem it be worth it, I don't need to worry about it. I'm just going with that assumption just because how could I know. know anything else. So with that in place, I'm kind of just saying, okay, well, whatever we get

from you is gravy. Clearly, it's going to be okay for you physically. Yeah, it's, but maybe not. Maybe he's just pushing and he's just being really, really hard-headed and they're like, I guess we got to let him. I don't know. Yeah, that's my thing. If there's any, like, medical concerns with this at all from any side, he shouldn't play. Yeah. But if he's 100% healthy, I still think the Celtics are just flat out better with him than without him. Of course. So if he's healthy, ready to go, he passes all the check marks. will he be as good my bad didn't cut you off will he be as good as jdub was last year

jdub a low tier all-star 20th best player in the world type player that's a lot bro he just it's a lot yeah that's what I'm saying bro that's that's a lot is that I'm saying coming from a fifth best player down to like 20thish it can it can happen it can but like I think part of another

reason we always like overlook is how much taxing is going to be defensively like a lot of people always talk about like what the offensive output is going to be but in today's league where you're running around, you're trying to close out, you're trying to keep up with everybody. Like, it is going to be the defense that's going to, like, really put him in compromising situations and have to have him be a little bit more explosive on a per possession

basis. I do think, like, he can just roam around the three-point line a little bit. But if we're talking about no more, like, Vooch minutes, that means that he's going to have to be out there defensively. And, like, I don't know. I just, I don't like the idea of rushing him out there because a lot of players, even when they felt like they were good, they came back and they got worse. And it's like, I don't want that.

Yeah. I have two teams up next that I'd like to fly through very quickly. Let's do it. What is the biggest weakness of? I had to put them on here because they're still on the plane. The Milwaukee Bucks. Okay. Oh, God.

I'm not going to say anything. I'd like you and you alone to say something. We're going to have silence for 30 seconds. What is the biggest weakness of the Phoenix Suns? Dylan Brooks injury. Yeah, I'm a dip. Dylan Brooks injury and in Milwaukee is Janus not playing. Yon is straight talks.

Yeah, both these teams have injured star players, lump them together. The bucks, you just got to pray to God. Yonanski is healthy and you can do something out of the playing tournament. Whatever, don't care. The sons, they've earned our respect whenever they were healthy

to get taken a little more seriously, but only a little bit when it comes to like their playoff chances of winning a title. If Devin Booker and Dylan Brooks aren't going to be 100% obviously it's a non-starter, even with them there, the weakness probably is just that while it's worked in the regular season, they've been able to do all this high-level coaching stuff

to extract enough value to be a good team and win enough games to be a, six year or whatever come playoff time i think it'll be pretty easy to defend that offense without creators around devon booker with dillan brooks getting all these touches come playoff time with the amount he doesn't pass it'll be pretty easy to game plan for that in a playoff series until he starts making shots go for it yeah dillan brooks used me into a playoff loss in the first round so fucking be it you're gonna be so mad when it happens to who i don't know i mean spurs get beat by dillam brooks good luck what a stand on the wimby's legacy oh he's at he's at a go

forever. He could win 17 championships we'll look back to this year and say he's done he can't be in the go to beat. Yeah, he got pissed on by Dylan Brooks. Tough.

Can't have it. But yeah, these two teams probably just aren't championship caliber and it's been a ton of time on but shout out the sons, man. Yeah, they had a cute little season. You don't have the paint though.

Damn. Damn. We've been hating this whole podcast. I don't know what I do. I have like the most uninteresting teams left, breath. I have the hawks.

sticky and the fucking Blazers. Okay, lightning round. All around the same, bro. All right, a couple words for the fucking Blazers. They have the most turnovers in the goddamn league, right? They have no lead guard. They have Donovan Klingon, who's been like one of the more interesting young players in the league. But, bro, overall, like, this team is just like in space because...

Did you all hear Donald Klingan's voice yet? I told you about a couple weeks ago. You said you didn't hear it? No. Hello, have you heard him talk? No. Does he have a black scent? I don't know if it's a black sin.

It's close. I think he's just from that. Southern. Like he's from the south. It's not quite like him using like the vernacular. Is he from is he from Georgia? But he sounds like he grew up around a bunch of black people. It isn't quite sound like No, he was born in Bristol, Connecticut. Oh, never mind, he's got a black accent.

Never mind, he's got a black sense. He's from He's from Hartford? Yeah, he's from Bristol. He's like down the block from the ESPN headquarters. That's crazy. Never mind. He's got a black cent. All right. All right. Cool. Yeah, so he has a black cent.

Next problem. Remind me, he Pat Riley's still there, man. Shout out to the statue. It's cool and all that. They go on regular like four minutes. They have regular four minute drops and not getting any buckets. The other night they played against the Milwaukee Bucks. They scored a single field goal in like six minutes of 26 seconds.

Their offense is terrible. Next, Miami Heat. I heard Clayton say for show. That's definitely in his back. I think that's the only time I heard of talk. I heard him say that too for some reason. It just took out. I don't know why.

It's weird. Yeah, the Atlanta Hawks, just mid all around. You are the face of mid across every single category. And not too much. Mankind. The truth, bro. I'm tired of it. Listen, I love my team.

I love Jalen Johnson. I like what Nikola Alexander Walk has been doing for the year. But it is what it is. You got Kaminga, though. You do got Kaminga, though. That's better than Porzini's. He beat air. He gave us 27.

Had a great game. Listen, I like it. I didn't watch it. I didn't watch it. Was it like? Just making threes. Was it like impressive? What did you see?

He made a couple like contested threes and, you know, that those are like pretty hit or miss or so. But when it comes to how it got his buckets, he started off like flaming fucking hot. He was running in transition. He was like really like, he made a lot of quick passes that I didn't necessarily think he would do day one. But they're like kind of obvious ones.

We're going against the Wizards. So it's kind of like hard to go ahead. Engage for real. But he looked good. Remember what I jokingly told you they were going to trade for him before it happened? And I said, I was like being facetious obviously because I don't think you should want John. the Camiga's a building block, but I was like, you know, maybe there's some world where they have

two six, nine wings that can handle the ball, score a little bit, running transition together. Maybe that will happen to some small degree. Maybe you will see in transition. They're really fun in that way. We'll see, man. We'll see. He looks good at a richard say too, so that's an app. But as always, it just depends if you can hit threes or not.

It really all comes out of that. Yeah. We'll talk about him later. Keep that thought. He's awful. We will talk about him later in the show. I will not. Miami heat.

So the Hawks are just mid-oper trading tray, obviously. Blazers don't have a lead point guard. Same thing for the Hawks. Honestly, all three of these teams, you don't have a point guard. You bucket them together because they're boring, but really, none of them have a lead initiator that you trust in a playoff setting to lead your half-court offense. And they're all led by... In a play-in setting.

Yeah, a play in setting. All their best players are ify half-court scores. And Jalen Johnson, Bam out of bio, and Denny, they're all kind of have the same weakness there. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. They're just floating and existing in the NBA atmosphere. Wow, the Eastern Conference playing invitational is all the same teams with different fonts. That's crazy.

Yeah. And the Hornets who are obviously the opposite. Yeah. It's like that every year though. Yeah, it is. Okay. Don, what's your next team? The Orlando Magic.

Their biggest issue is also getting buckets by way of Palo. And we have the Palo conversation like once every two weeks. Yeah. But like, you know, this is. Are you aware? We're in the middle of his March basketball, a little bit early resurgence right now. So, okay. So even on that, even on that.

Trust me, I have a caveat coming. Go ahead. Yeah, I think we're on the same page. Go ahead, you say it. He's shooting 44% from three. Obviously, he always didn't worry about shot variants. That's why he's shooting so well, scoring so all right? Average in the last five games.

44% from three. Do you know what he's shooting from the field? 45%. 45? Dude, he's shooting 49% from twos right now. The last 10 games, you shoot in 41% on two. That's what it was, 41% on two. Give me everything at once for two games in a row,

palo, please. That's outrageous. And it just, it just won't happen. And there's just so, there's so many games. Like, it's, this whole year is crazy because Desmond Bain, after his like super, super, super slow start, he's been Desmond Bain, right? He's been good. You're getting an Anthony Blackleap and how you can have at least those two, like, just solid offensive players. And then the number one overall pick, Palo Banc Carroll, this guy who's supposed to be, you know, carrying the offense, face of the franchise, all of this.

And your offense still sucks and you're still getting clamped up on, on random days. And you're still looking over in. and asking Desmond Bain, can you carry us in crunch time because I don't have it. It just happens every, it happens too often. Dude, what they've been doing with Desmond Bain is hilarious. These last few games specifically, but they've been asking them like not to be Desmond Bain, yo, can you be Devin Bucker? And it's been like working to a degree.

He's been hooping his ass off. He's a point guard pretty much. Yeah, yeah. He's been giving folks 36, 34, 31 had a 22 point game against the Lakers the other night. He's been good. Yeah, they beat the Lakers. Last play the game gave a three. Yeah, I know.

It was bad. Also, those numbers are, like, ultra-fake. The reason why he's shooting 44% from three is because of that Sacramento-King's game. Like, since then, he was 5-for-7 against Sacramento, 0-4-1, 2-4-6. So even in the, like, preceding next three games, he hasn't been that good from three. And then the only reason why his field-go percentage is that good is because of the Laker game. Because before the Laker game, it was 37, 39, and then it was 47. So, like, he's, like, he's had one really good game on his two pointers against the Lakers, one really good game on his three pointers against the Kings.

And then everything else in the middle has just been straight bad. It's just been mid. It's been terrible. Yeah, I mean, it's, it's, it's, it's, and then also, the only reason why I say this is because I actually had a video, like, making about Paulo and then he had arguably his best game against a Lakers, so there's that. But, yeah, the bigger timing. Yeah, the bigger problem is like Franz Wagner is like their best player and he's not playing. He's not healthy and available. And Paolo is just Paulo.

He's in the middle of like quite literally one of the least impressive shooting stretches I've ever probably seen. No, yeah. He's haven't one of the worst volume scoring seasons like of modern NBA history. You really cannot exaggerate how bad obviously, but just fucking strange of a season it is from a guy who's always been to me overrated to some developing and had his. warts that were surrounding these same type of things. But the fact that you can get to this year and just have all this get the worst it's ever been is so weird. Like I feel like he has to be in just a mental straight jacket.

Like this has to be some weird confidence issue. Probably because even whenever he came back the first time, like, you know, we were hearing about him, you know, hearing the noise and being like, okay, I do kind of have to fit back into this, into the system because they were playing well without me. So where do I fit into it now? So I think it is hard when you are supposed to be like the guy or one of the two guys that you and Franz and you guys are both ascending. And then all you hear is like, yeah, this team plays much better without you. You're the problem.

Your style of plays is the reason why they're not good. And so trying to do all that. And then whenever Franz is out and you're like, okay, now it's actually my time. And things aren't going your way and you shoot him poorly. He probably, he probably is like like you said in a mental straitjacket. Being a flawed franchise player is a tough existence. Also, you just got to shoot better. You just have to play better.

Yeah. And it's tough because he's not like one of the like, well, he is this. He's hardheaded in the way he plays and like playing his style. And like, remember he had that tweet where he's like, so now it's a problem to practice getting your moves off or something like that. People were criticizing him for just working on mellow jumpers. Yeah. I don't feel like he's trying to give a comparison here.

He's not Cam Thomas in that he's an asshole about him playing his style and like any criticism. He's like, now I'm a bucket. that's not palo. I don't feel like he has any type of like chip on his shoulder with that to where it's annoying or you should like criticize him for it. He's just plain bad. That's unfortunate. I think he just,

he simply is who he is, bro. He's not one of the more talented like bucket getters in the entire league. Yep. And that's what he's been forced to be. That's what he wants to be. And everything just like back blowing and all over our faces. Yeah.

That's crazy. But it's tough whenever like as a young player, you. I hate when this shit is blown on my face It's tough whenever you have all the potential in the world To be one of the best scores in the league And you just stop it being a solid score Yeah Like we haven't seen that in recent years

Some of the top picks and the development Happens over the course of MBA history all the time But it sucks when you make that realization After the guy already makes $50 million a year Sick Also even more than just probably The whole team as a whole life They all just can't really

You know, get bugs like that As a team they shoot below league average From all three levels Yeah The offense does a whole is flawed. For sure the whole team, but I do think this one starts to the head of the snake. Yes.

Damn. Modern day Andrew Wiggins. It's tough. But he's the opposite though. Andrew Wiggins was able to be honed into being a really good role player version of himself. That was later in his career. Exactly. I don't know if that's possible with Palo.

I don't know if he possesses these small soft skills to like be a role player. Yo, what is this episode? Guy, you're saying his whole career is wraps. And 23. Yeah, I think he could have adjusted like year eight or 10. No, no, right now. No, I don't think he's on the same way. It's hard to do that.

It's hard to do that for guys that, like the Andrew Wiggins thing, that's that's year, eight, year nine, after four teams. Like, it's, it's tough. And I don't think that Pell is cooked. I think he can get good. But I think if he gets really good, it's going to be as the lead guy. I don't think he has the screening desire, the rebounding, the defense, the small reeds as an offball player wanting to make place a short role to be stoned down to a smaller

version of himself as like a role player. I don't know if he just has. that potential to be like a great Aaron Gordon. Like, you know, any big power forward. You can look at him and be like, you know, it's so funny. Like, Aaron Gordon was exactly that before he was traded. Yeah, so, but Aaron Gordon's development is like irregular.

Most guys aren't able to do that. And of course, you can. You never know. Maybe he also completely changes himself. I just think if it's going to work for him, it's going to be as the lead score. He has to just get better and get back on track to what he was doing a couple years ago.

I just don't have the hope. I haven't seen enough to say he can't scale down like you can with some guys who just aren't good enough. Did you see that from Wiggins in this first for you? I was going to say the same thing. Like Wiggins. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, listen, that was like 2014, 2015.

I don't remember. I was in high school. I can't tell you the exact soft details of what signs he showed. But I know I haven't seen that from Palo. And also Wiggins goes to the war, like you're going to a team that has won championship before that you are playing alongside the greatest shooter ever who also plays in one of the more unique styles of all time. And like we're not going to see somebody in the next 10 years that plays exactly like

Steph Curry with the efficiency that he does. So going to a situation like that where. we're getting skin actually developed, that's probably not even going to be there for, for Paolo. I mean, to get him into like that specific situation. Godly, bro. We're running off a 23-year-old.

No, we're writing off him being a role player succeeding. I'm not writing off him being a good star still. I just don't think the role player avenue is what I would expect if he gets good. Damn. Now, if he plays like this somewhat next year, I will write him off. Oh my gosh.

I will write off a 24-year-old. I will write off a 24-year-old. If he's shooting like this. That's fair. I forgot who I was listening to. It was some podcast that said like the goal for a prospect needs to be good when you're 24. That's kind of the age where you typically know if someone's got it or not. That's a good point.

If one more year, I will ride him off for sure. Yeah. Because it's going to be what year four at that point? Your four or five? It's year four now. It's year four now. Year five. Yeah.

If we are in year five of Palo and he is shooting the way that he is shooting right now, I'm done. I'm, no, no. I'm agree with you about him being a star. I just, I don't know, I feel like there's enough teams out there that could functionally put him in something to where he just looks fine as a role player. Do you have five teams off the top of the top of the head? That's impossible to be now. Like for example, like for example, if you like with the old, yeah, that's got crazy. If you like, if you have like for example, like the Spurs, for example, when Deer and Fox gets a little older and that he's made out on the roster and they just need like a tertiary ball handler and somebody kind of just kind of plug in at the four next to Wemby, I can see that being a role.

where you have Wimby next to you so you can look better defensively. Your all-in-ball reps isn't going to be that much because Harper and them get better. And so you're in this as long as you're just able and you don't even have to be that great of a shooter because Wemby still gains a lot of attention. Like I think in theory, that could be a thing.

I mean, of course, like Wiggins and the Warriors is very hard to replicate. But I can't write off a 20-9. I think when we talk about players in different situations, we had to ban ourselves from saying if he was next to Wembe. That was the argument for, Wiggins. If he was next to hurry,

that's literally the same thing with, that's the same thing with Aaron Gordon as well. Yeah, and if Aaron Gordon is next to Nicola Yolkich. Yeah, like, yeah. So just put him next to basically the best one. In all time, right. In three, five. Exactly. The top 10 player ever can save Palo back Carol. There we go. I agree.

Those are the conversations we're having right now. I agree. The most complimentary stars of all time can save Fallow Bank Carol. Yeah, but also, but also, they're going to have to save him in six years. That's why it's impossible to sit down and talk about what you could say for right now.

For the next five years, like his extension starts next year. So he's made- The money hasn't even kicked in yet. The money hasn't started. So in 2013, he can definitely be a fire role. I get it. I can't get it, dog. It's a hater.

It's a hater pie right now. He's making 54 in 2030. It's in the title, man. It's a superb up. I know, but godly, man. We're writing Apollo. at 23, man. As a role player.

I'm not right. No, you can't be right. Now, you just said at 24, I'm done with him, period. That's what you just said.

Yes, that's not right now. That's giving somebody another year of grace. You have a whole summer to lock in and do whatever you need to do. Hit the sauna.

I think we're being mad reasonable. I'm not going to lie. That's what I'm saying. Hit the sauna, do sit-ups at 2 a.m. Right? Go, go to a gym, get 500 shots up.

Every two hours. I don't, I don't care what you do. But at this point, on February 26th, 2027, if you are shooting 20% from 3 points from the 3 point line, I'm going to say you are not good. That's a hard part.

We really can't exaggerate how bad the numbers are this year. It's not a normal slump. It's not a normal slump. He's bad right now. I need to see 20 burpees. 20 burpees. Guys, I'm sending you to Diamond June. Run the hill.

Well, who you got next? I got off all my senior teams already. Okay. Yeah. Low, he got next. I had the Timberwolves Biggest weakness for Minnesota is Julius Randall

You want to talk about hate You just said Julianne Mind you he said that about three times That's an OG Paula Ben-G You've been to have You better than Prince of Paloven Carol but I will call the Rockets sorry sacks of shit No I'm not like

I ain't gonna lie I've been fairly impressed with like A lot of the players on here Like Dante recently hasn't been shooting the best, but, like, he's been, like, lights out from three and has been amazing from three. Jaden McGaanyl's offensive, like, input has really ticked up, and he's shown flashes to where he could be a fringe 20-point score. Gobert is still one of the best rim protectors in the NBA, like one of the best defenders all around, and Nas has his abs and flows,

but when he's good, he's really, really good. Like, the only reason why I don't think they'll make a deep host season run is because of Julius Randall. Like Julius Randall, like, Julius Randall recently, like, the three-point shot is falling off the face of the earth. He's gone back to his ways where, like, he just stagnates the offense way too much. And then, like, there's times where, like, it's just like, you watch Randall and it's like, oh, the defense is also shaky because his shot isn't falling. So, like, all those things kind of just really concern me for a team that has the personnel. Like, the last, yeah, I don't know if y'all are looking at it right now, the numbers,

like the last 17 games, 27% from three, it's, is. I didn't realize that. Yeah, it's bad. I think to your point, even outside of, if we wanted to be, give him some grace for Mitzies slump, whatever, their biggest flaw all year is that they can't defend for shit when Rudy Gaubert is off the court. Yeah. And if Randall was a good defender, that would help because Nasreid is not going to be that for you.

So the biggest minutes they play outside of Gobert are Nas Reid Randall minutes or Nas Reid J. McDaniels minutes. And they tried some zone stuff this year where Jay McDaniels kind of like being the anchor of that zone. And at times, I think that's been like a cool thing to point to that would probably be a weapon in playoff series against certain teams. Like it's to play the spurs. That'll be real impactful against them.

If they'll play the Nuggets, probably not so much. we'll see. That's at least something to point to, but they really cannot survive when Rudy Gober is not on the court defensively. Well, actually, I mean I said cannot survive because they can. But it is something to overcome. And it's always a problem in the playoffs, obviously, because we know Rudy Gober is getting older and older offensively. They just have a lot of lineup configurations that have a lot of like volatility with some like one-way specialists. I'm sorry, I just found the perfect tweet given our conversation. I read it to us. I'm worried that Paolo is the next Andrew Williams. Nicole Reed tweet says,

Palo Venture not even reaching Julius Randall's Willis. Bro, man, Paulo, I still believe in you, man. I'm still Paulo FC because this is disgusting, bro. No, this is just a crazy tweet to run into you. Oh, you're Paul. I know, I'm crazy.

You're Paul FC? No, I ain't going to lie. I was huge. I was, I was, I was big on Orlando going into the season. Now, of course, you know, it didn't, you know. FC? You banging FC? That's crazy.

I know, I like, I like Paulo. I like Paulo in France, actually. I'm barely Lakers. To BFC, you got an early ride or die. Nah, ain't gonna lie. Bissos pull up Franz Wagner tweets in mind. They get kind of nasty. I can't.

They get kind of nasty. Christ. What are you talking about again? The team we're talking about again? Listen, that video where the dude is posting up against like the against the truck.

Yeah. He's saying this Julius Randall, it's never been true. It's never been true. What was he treating for? I don't know. But he had one of those, Randall had one of those moments

in the game the other day against Portland where Ant's like wide open in the corner and his arms are like wide open. He's like, bro, just throw me the ball. And Julius Randall is throwing his shoulder into the defender for like 12 seconds and then eventually spins, puts up a bad shot and then you go down the other way.

And there's just, there's a lot of moments. And it is, it's funny. I think the stuff that we thought maybe last year about the wolves might come to fruition this year where we're like, yeah, Julius Randall like going into the into that Lakers series. It was like, okay, how do the Lakers win this series?

You let Julius Randall think that he can win the series and you let him take over. Yeah. You know, quote unquote, that might happen this year. Yeah, we'll see. They're going to be a highly volatile team. It's so weird because they've made two conference finals so they feel like a super safe team.

And maybe they are, because maybe they just have a lock-in factor that a lot of these teams don't. But they do have a high range of outcomes. You do got a lot of friends. tweets. Also, I love how you say Franz and Bancarro wrong. It's almost like it's purposeful.

Frans, Benchero. Friends and Bantiro. Oh, bad. You want to show us these France tweets? No, I don't. Yeah, yeah. They get that. Yeah.

Go ahead. Read him. Paulo. All right. Now you'll make me self-conscious about it. Just say it right. Paulo and Franz is such an underrated duo. Orlando has to stop wasting time

and put a real team around them. Okay, fair. That's not crazy, man. Age well. That's in 2025. Franz highlights. They just do something to me. What to do to you?

What? Double down two. Let me hear some match. Yeah, I was, I ain't going to lie. That was 21, I was going crazy for France. You was sweating? I was sweating for, I was like, yo, that. You know, Frantz is really like that, bro.

He's really like that, man. Okay. This is a pro France show. This is, man, this is. You was going crazy. I don't even know what this is. Please shut the fuck up. In the middle.

That was somebody who was calling me out for saying I do the same thing that, like, mainstream media does and not talk about small market teams. And I was like, no, I'm in the middle. I talk about France. I definitely talk about France. I definitely talk about New York. Please shut the fuck up. I talk about France.

New York, L.A., Boston, France. Big four. Oh, yeah, that's when Franz game does, yeah. It's bad. It's bad. I really do like Franz and what he provides, but. I can sell. Yeah, yeah.

Worry, right. Next team, I have the Oklahoma City Thunder. Jeez. I mean, it's fairly simple. Health is the biggest flaw with this team. If they were fully healthy, we'd still have no question marks about them, and we'd say they're probably going to win the championship again. But they have not been blessed with a bill of health. Neither were they last year.

But they had enough with the ball. handling that they maintained themselves to the injuries last year and weren't really affected. They're highly affected this year. Jadab is not only missing a lot of time when he played. He was horrendous until a couple of games before he got hurt again with the hamstring, where it seemed like the wrist injury had kind of fixed itself over time. But now we have a lingering hamstring. And to me, that hamstring is the single biggest swing factor in the NBA playoffs this year.

If Jado gets back to 100%, or anywhere close 100%, if he's there and helpful on both sides of the ball to any degree, they should win the NBA championship, I think. Yeah. But it is far from a guarantee that he will be healthy. If he's not there at all, then we have the same issue we had last year to an even greater degree where the secondary ball handling around Shage is not existent, and the shooting is so up and down that you'll have stretches where you troll multiple games in a row because you have the cold shooting plus Mark Dagnol turning into a mouse in some playoff games,

that you'll end up getting pushed to seven by teams that are vastly inferior to you. And that's a tough way to win. They did it last year. They pulled it out in those tough series. But when you play a lot of series that go longer than they should, you're just prone to upset. Damn, man. Going back to back is just like, I fear that's like never going to be a thing again, bro. Obviously, it probably will be, but it's going to be one of the more like the hardest thing to accomplish these days.

To be fair, I still think they're going to do it. I'm still picking them to win the championship. Yeah. But it's not like last year I was like all year. I'm 100% certain they're going to win. You certainly can't say that this year. You can't be so confident. They are some might pick above everybody else.

But like last year, I was like them over the field. Now it's they have the best chance out of a wide field. Yeah. That makes sense. I think it, I mean, I almost got. in the way last year with Jadob in his and his health. So it's not, yeah, it's not, it's not crazy.

But if everybody's there, I, yeah, now that the nugget stuff is, is really, really starting to, to settle in. And like, you, you have to think about if these people are going to be there in the playoffs. We're going to hurt team versus hurt team. Yeah. I'll still, I'll take O.K.C. right now.

Yeah, you have a hurt team that's your best rival and then you have a team that's never been there before in the Spurs, who, you know, to most people that matters, having the experience there. So because the flaws of the other teams around them, I think it's pretty safe to still go to the Thunder. But if one of those teams gets clicking at another degree for the last month of the season,

I'll kind of, I'll understand not picking the Thunder. Whereas last year, I think if you were hating on the Thunder and not picking them, it was like, what are we talking about? This year, I'll get it if you doubt them. That's fair. Who has this first? Who is this? I have the Spurs.

Okay. Can we hear about say something about Thunder? I was just going to say just quickly about the Thunder. I personally just think it's three-point shooting. Even when J-Dub is there, like I think that, like last year, even when he was there, even when he was playing, and even when he was up and down, the reason why those series became close is because, like, their three-point shooting, they would have stretches where it's bad. And then also, Chet, man, Chad, man, Chet is another one where I'm kind of like holding off on trying not to be overly critical of him. But, like, this was the year for me where I was like, all right, J-Dub is out. This is now your time.

Let's see what's going on. And it's just like, that ceiling is very clearly a 15 to 17 point per game player. And I'd never expected that out of him. So that's really concerning in terms of like just offensive creation because that means moving forward. The team is probably going to have to rely more on Shay as they progress. And as they rely more on Shay, then you also have to like hope that the three point shooting doesn't waver too much. So, you know. Yeah, I think eventually hopefully they go back to back now, especially if they don't.

I think they're going to have to go towards a more offensively. approach, or not even offensive leaning because it's not like they're going to stop being a defensive forward team, but just a more balanced approach. Like right now you talk about a three-point shooting woes. It's because they play defensive slanted lineups. It's because they're not playing Isaiah Joe. They're not going out there and finding more shooters that are going to fix that because they don't want to sacrifice anything defensively and they think they can turn people over enough, get enough transition points that it makes up for the lack of shooting. And they were proven to be right in the long term last year despite it getting a little sticky. I do hope that

if they fail, they kind of change that tune a little bit. Yeah. I have the Spurs. The biggest weakness to me with San Antonio is just experience. I've watched a couple of there. Actually, I've watched a handful of Spurs game, and I get kind of frustrated knowing that Deering Fox is their only, he's their vet, him and Harrison Barnes. Harrison Barnes is known to not show up in big games,

and that's happened already throughout this season. And as good as Fox can be, he's also very shaky in some of those big games when it's a little physical. That game against the Pistons, it was a really tough watch for him. So that's going to be very, very difficult to watch. And then also, like, everybody else, they're young.

And I don't want to be, unlike everybody else on the year, I like to give some young players a little bit more grace in time. And so I know for a fact, even though they've done a really great job at adjusting in real time in these games, I just know over the course of a seven game series, you give enough, you get teams enough like reps to try to figure out what your weaknesses are, especially in the West. They'll figure it out soon enough. Yeah.

It's going to be a trial by fire for Stefan Castle's, specifically, I think, trying to figure out the balance of him being so great off ball, having a lot of utility on ball and it being worth it to give him those reps in the regular season. But then come playoff time when he has these cold stretches and these turnover prone stretches, how you balance him versus Fox off ball. So I think a big reason for the Fox, like inconsistency and numbers and why he's felt kind of mad at times is because he's deferring so much and playing so much off ball because he knows he can space the floor and he knows he can go back to being on ball when needed being the veteran.

So they're kind of like letting Stefan Castle cook to further his development and like play the long game there. Very curious how that goes in the playoffs when you're used to doing that all year. And Stefan Castle is in a certain rhythm and a certain expectation of touches. And if you have to go the other way and go really Dier and Fox prone and really like treat Castle like a men Thompson and having beat this athletic finisher for a few games in a row because he's not necessarily succeeding with the pressure on ball. Very curious how they can develop that change mid-season or mid-series.

Man, I would fucking hate that. I would hate that. But when it comes to the playoffs specifically, actually, just don't mind. Yeah, when it comes to the playoffs, I can see that being a real case scenario where someone like Darren Fox takes on more on-on-on-on-he takes on-ball responsibilities. It's been so interesting seeing him like go ahead and let these guys cook and be okay with it. Going back to what you said, just standing in the corner and wait until he gets the ball and bailing out, getting these grains and bailing out the team here and there. But I do feel like it will be a thing where things get real tough, things get monkey, the Stefan Castle negatives like shine like. like a motherfucker in the playoffs and we will see someone like Deerr and fox take reins

again. Lo, what is your current relationship with Deer and Fox? Not the not the biggest fan of him. And your doubt. Not not the biggest fan of him. Kings fans still are upset at me for the- I know. I know the background.

Is he currently, is he currently genuinely necessary? Yeah, in the beginning of the season when he first came back, I was like, bro, he's not even necessary on his team. And then everybody got upset at me. And now only everybody get upset Of me, some of the people went back and was like, man

he might have just been early on this one That's tough, that's tough So yeah, I'm not I'm not big on Fox, at least in the role that he's in. The team is like inexperienced, so like they don't need to rush anything Throwing Deanne Fox in the mix Just to like say you got a guard To me is like unnecessary

But you know, shout out to Dean Fox I know your point. I understood your point when you said that This season I think he's extremely necessary Just in the playoff setting just because with how raw Harper is and how raw Castle is and how consistent is the playmaker, I just think I would be so,

if they were going into this playoff series without Darren Fox into the season, I think regular season-wise, they wouldn't be that different. They would still be capable of being a top three seed, but I would have zero fucking faith in them if they're going with a rookie point guard and Stefan Castle as their only creators.

So whether it be Fox or somebody else, whoever may be, I'm just glad they have some other playmaker that can fill some type of reliability for it. Yeah, right now, Deer and Fox occupies certain areas in the court and where Stefan Castle and Dylan Harper they can do but they're not like the best at it yet and that's not like fragment it fragmented into their game as we speak compared

to some like Deere Fox who's just like there's been known like as a mid-ranged not God necessarily but like he is one of those guys who can get to a spot that easily yeah those young guys can be put under pressure in the playoffs for sure yeah also listen I can I get some hate off real quick this is your episode you know how last year Shay um so two things one we so we all we always always called Wemby performative. Last year. Oh, okay. Last year,

Shay, every single time he was hitting that, that pound dribble step back three. Yeah. And it was just like a brick every single time. Yeah. Wemby is doing that with these like, with these trailing pull-up threes where he feels like, like,

that's going to be this like momentum shifting shot. And he does it so consistently. And I'm just like, bro, you got to realize. Because he's done it multiple times over the last couple games, and he's bricking him. Yeah. And I see it.

Every time that I see him. Coming into frame, I'm like, he's about to pull this. I need you to relax. That's it. That's a fact. And that's the part of the reason why they do need something like Darren Fox, right? You need someone to offset that. Yeah.

But he doesn't do it, but we'll see it. Time will tell you to your point if Deer & Fox is good enough for all this. Like, we like the idea of De Aaron Fox on this team. We'll see how he performs if he matches that idea. Because the idea of him is super needed. Whether or not Deer & Fox is good enough of that specific role, we'll see if you're vindicated. I know it was one game, but you all remember the Warriors' first. game early in the season.

Which one? I don't think so. The Air Fox choke like crazy. Oh yeah. That's the game. I said it. When he just start taking a bunch of shots. Yeah.

And I was like, bro, what are you doing, bro? That is a guy that triggered it. That was so annoying. I was like, bro, what are you doing, bro? And Wimby was killing and it was like, it's not your show, dog. We're not here for you, bro. Is that every team? Does anybody have teams left?

I have two teams left. Okay. So I have the clippers. They're completely different since like, since they traded, since they traded, since they trade the garlic whatever I'm a high level basketball then we go to Clippers listen they were on my list are their biggest issue with Will Kauai get suspended and

taken off the team and so he can sound like a crazy thing that that's real that could actually happen is he did he's like you think it's true like he's like he's gonna be a Laker right he's not gonna leave L.A why the fuck would he be a Laker if that happens he's not gonna leave L.A. He's not gonna leave L.A. He's in one's saying the West Coast he's either gonna be a warrior or a Laker and one's closer to his home than the other

he'll be a Laker warrior or retire he might retire maybe he's got some years left he might actually yeah maybe can you imagine how hilarious that be if he gets his contract ripped up and five years after he could have been a laker

actually no like seven years after he could have been a laker LeBron leaves and now he comes because he doesn't have to play with LeBron that's insane he's still a top five caliber player I see the vision

he might come true we'll talk about that a later date I don't even I don't can I got to decide if I'd want that or not with the unreliability that comes with that Luke of Dutch era can I tie up that much money

to somebody that doesn't play but that would be hilarious nevertheless. Yeah. And then my last team is the 76ers. Okay. They completely, they do the opposite. They lock out.

They don't lock out. At halftime of games, they're done. Okay. Their third quarter scoring is awful. And so there's so many games, like you look at the things that they do in the first half and they can be playing a very, very, very good game. And then halftime comes, you get to the third quarter. They forget how to score.

And then now you are in dog fights. Now you are in situations where Tyrese Maxie has to play X amount of minutes with Tyrese maxi has to take a million shots down the stretch of games. And we're already kind of seeing it that the 40 minutes a night that he was playing earlier in the season, like it's starting to catch up a little bit. They played them a little bit less, but you're starting to see just small like games here and there where the inefficiency like just overall inefficient games are starting to pop up a little bit more. And so I wonder as we get to the playoffs and as they get in there with Joe L&B being in and out the lineup the same way that he's been all year long, is Maxie going to be able to hold up and play 40 minutes a night again for like the last 20 games of this season and for the playoffs? It's just a lot. I agree. I agree.

Especially obviously in the Embed, part of it all. That may raise their ceiling to a point to where they can go into playoff series and have the best player if he can play. at that level, but obviously it's in B. So then they have to rely more on Maxie and then as much as that's like been on and off. And I think Maxi's actually been amazing this year, but it's very clear there's a ceiling limitations and a lot of taxing on Maxi as an individual. Some of those games have also kind of caught up to Vijay in his rookie season as well. So there's just a lot of things that are happening all at one time that kind of gives them

a very clear ceiling. But to me, I think it's always like in B's health, like when he's healthy and he's he's had really great games this year. But when he's not and he's not playing, then that team can just get really overly dependent on Maxi too quickly. VJ is going to be one of the most fascinating players in the next like four years to watch develop.

His strengths and weaknesses are so pronounced right now. Like he can't play through contact at all as a driver. If you just watch him make uncertain driver possessions, you wouldn't think it's a top pick in the draft, just thought of his physical makeup right now and how much he can handle contact. But then he's been a knockdown shooter for stretches of the season when really tough pull-up threes.

He's going to be a very good defender. obviously super athletic in transition. I think he'll be a good shot blocker. Like he's very, I think he's going to be very similar like Derek White. And his like strengths are very strong. So maybe he looks like a role player at times,

but it provides like star value when he's in certain team constructions. That is, unless he develops physically a ton and changes all the driving stuff and talking about, which you very much can. He's only 19.

But I wonder what people expect if him as of now. I feel like some people will pitch and hold him thinking he's going to be this like Donovan Mitchell type player. So for some reason that was like the type of draft comp he got. And I don't know if he's going to be

that type of of like lead guy in that way. Yeah. And if it is, if it's not like that's fine. I think he right now he leads all rookies and steals or something like that.

And of course, like he needs to work on the physical stuff. All rookies do. But at the end of the day, I can definitely see where we're wearing like he isn't a lead lead guy or necessarily a 20 point per game score and still like he's so sound

in so many different ways it'll be fine. Yeah. I think he's going to be incredible, but in a unique way. Yeah. That's fair. And with that being said, that is every single team

that we're here to talk about. Every playoff team's biggest weakness. Now, Be Souls. Yes. It is time for our first edition with you of Producer Corner where we're going to talk about one non-basketball topic for about 10 to 15 minutes. What do you have for us today? Yes, yes, yes.

I have a question for all the people in the room right now, plus low, who, which city has better food? Atlanta or Chicago? All of us moving here to Chicago. Don Mo's from Atlanta, obviously. Low in Atlanta. Who wins? I mean, Chicago hands down. Dole, have you had food here in Chicago?

No, but I've heard about it. Like, I've heard it's pretty good. I've heard it's up there at top tiers. Beesot's asking me your food question is just setting me up for a lot of memes, so I'm at the roll with the punches. No, this is a very pro-food podcast. Yeah, I've heard it's been like really, really good. Atlanta food to me is like, bro, and I don't know, like, Moe probably knows this as well.

When people talk about the like the Atlanta scene, it's always like boozy restaurants or places that like everyone knows about, but also people who are in Atlanta also know that they're not, like that's not really the place to go to. So that kind of bothers me when people try to represent like the food scene here. I think there's like a lot of really, really good food in Atlanta, especially on certain areas. But I have, I've heard like great things. And when I was in New York, I was like kind of blown away by how much better like a lot of places are. So I would assume Chicago's up there. But Atlanta, Atlanta gets a lot of slack.

I mean, a lot of flag for no reason. Yeah. Atlanta is one of them cities and people just quoted as a certain place in America. But I will say Chicago tops when it comes to food like all around. I have like rare misses here. Outside of like maybe a few places here, there, it's genuinely some of the best food I like consistently like all hit some of the best food I had in my life. I've been to Atlanta one time for a work trip to the BR offices in Atlanta. And I Uber eats Magic City wings as I won Atlanta meal. How would be it? How were they?

Pretty good. They're the smallest things they've ever seen in my life. Yeah. I mean, they're non-GMO wings. They're real. Bro, they're the size of my thumb. They were so small. They were legitimately thumb-sized wings.

It was crazy. But see, like that right there is like the same way. It's like, all right, cool. I'm going to go to Atlanta and get like Magic City wings. It's like, man, like there's so many other wing spots that are even better. And there's one, JR crickets that's not too far from, yeah, not too far from the BR location. No, that's significantly better.

Like, if I were just to suggest that work there is where I would sell people to go. Or out the bando. Like, bandos wings are much better as well. But it's just like everyone only knows about like, oh, I'm going to Magic City or I'm going to go to Magic City. Or I'm going to go, like, the varsity is another one where people like brag about it. I'm like, yeah, no, let's let's calm down. We're not going to the varsity. Our Atlanta Breakfast Club, like, stuff like that is, it's like, come on, bro.

But that's like normie stuff. Like everybody knows that's not really good. So the stereotypes of Atlanta are overhyped, but the actual foot to the ground locations are very quality. You still say it's better, though, than Chicago, based off of what you know in Chicago. What I know, I probably not, but Mo knows we would know way better to me. Yeah. Yeah, I would say it's better.

Like comparing even like the mainstream stuff here in Chicago is much better. I know I think I wanted some like weird ass like doom scrolling on Portillo's disc, discourse a couple like nights ago for that's crazy i know so weird apparently it's like so much worse these days but when we had it a couple months huh no i was just saying you tapped it yeah when we had it a couple months ago when our guys were here it was like actually good and comparing that to like the varsities of the world and whatever else you want you want to talk about when it comes though main were staples in in alanta food like chicago washes from top to bottom yeah i think i think all the the touristy stuff that I was told to try when I first got

here by TikTok has pretty much lived up the hype. I like Portillo's. I like small Chavall. You've been to Osherval. I haven't been to the main location yet. Apparently that's, I lose up to the hype. I haven't felt anything here that's like a disappointment. Yeah, exactly. You're going to have to be in the nose for... Oh, actually, no. Harold Chicken was disappointed to me, but then I was told I went to the wrong location. He said you go to the right one in the south side.

It's really good. I went to one in the part side. I went to the one of the south side. That's so bad, bro. I was so mad. Yes. I don't tell. We got to stop the conversation for the doctor. I'm going to kill you. I don't know where the right heels is. Apparently they're all different and there's one that's good. The rest are bad invitations, which is crazy for a franchise that's the same across the city. Damn, I thought there was going to be more of a fight.

But I do want to have a follow-up question. Just who's a... Which city's just better in general? Outside of food. Outside of food. Oh, that's definitely Atlanta. Definitely Atlanta? No, that's what 1,000% Atlanta.

I mean, you would be surprised. Honestly, like, listen, if you... You never stepped foot here at all. I don't care. I drive around some blocks. I'm like, I'm in my city right now? Like, it looks like it.

It looks like it. Stop, mo. Come on. You're trying to sell yourself still. All right. Cool, man. Well, I think the south side of Atlanta,

Southside of Chicago looks like Atlanta is not a stretch. That's not a crazy sense. Come on, man. All I'm going to say is, if you have a jacket, this city's perfect. Like, it's like,

like, the city is, Get the goose on, man. This city is very, This city is very, very nice, and it has everything. And, like, if you can just be in the house for two months, you're fine. And who says that? If you can be in a house for two months and you're fine. You're dismal.

It has to be, like, five months. It's not five months. That's crazy. First of all, I've never under, I've never under, I've never under, like, there are definitely times in the winter where it is, like, very cold and, like, you're not going to, like, leave the house that specific day. But I've never understood, like, oh, it's cold outside. can't go anywhere. I'm going to just put on a jacket

and I'm going to go do what I want to do. And so it's like, I'll be, I'll be fine. And so that's why I'm saying two months on the very conservative side for those people who just can't handle a little bit of, there was two weeks where I want to go outside because it was like those, that crazy week where it was insane. Outside of that, like you said, I'm still going to go to the gym. I'm still going to go to the grocery store.

I probably won't go out shopping and stuff quite as often. I'm probably not going to go downtown and go to fucking Kithk quite as often. But I was still doing that in the winter. It's, it's cheaper to live in here. I just put on a puffy, man. It's cheaper to live here. We don't have that type of weather. Like, I've never lived in a place where it's been so bad to where I told myself

months at a time, I'm just never going to go outside because that's how cold it is. See, and that's the thing. That's the line. Just go outside. That's crazy. Just go outside. Yeah, no one's stopping you. I mean.

That's what I'm saying. The snow is. Ah, that's good. Now, see, that's the thing, though, the snow doesn't stop you because the city is, like, built for it. So the roads are all completely salted. It's like fine. You can do whatever you want.

Get it. get a nice jacket, get fitted up with some boots, and go outside. Throw these thermos on and be a fucking man. And also, we're buried in the lead. So those two months where it's really cold, they fucking suck. I'm not going to lie. It's treacherous. They fucking suck.

But the summer and the fall and the spring are gorgeous. The summer, it's a top three summer in the country. In the summer, it's the best place to live in the United States. He's dragging it. He's dragging it. I live in L.A., I've lived in L.A., I've lived in Austin, Texas. I spent a lot of time in New York. In the summer, Chicago was the best place I'd like to live in the United States.

The only thing. comparable is New York something. Yeah, New York is tough, man. New York is just like literally unlimited fun. So it's hard to compare. And I get New York obviously, but I know some people don't like New York because the downside of it being too crazy and the like inconveniences that come with what makes it so great.

There's no inconveniences here. You can go downtown and get that New York City feel. I live like 15 minutes outside of downtown in this part that's like still city. But it's a little bit more like it feels like Brooklyn-y. Like it's a little like more manageable. I can drive everywhere. I can walk anywhere where I want. It's beautiful.

There's trees everywhere. It's like the best parts of New York with the best parts of other cities. that aren't insane. Mo, be honest, bro. You've been in both, bro. Be honest. I'm being honest, bro. It's a great feel.

No one, no one not saying it's not great. Traffic? Traffic? Doesn't even fucking compare to Atlanta, but it takes 15 minutes away to get to the city myself, bro. Atlanta? Easy, bro. When I lived in Atlanta or, yeah,

before I left my dad's group, I lived like 40, fucking 50 minutes away from my school. Reality is, I live 20 minutes away. But because of traffic, it will always be triple the fucking time. It's always bad. Listen,

pull up in the summer and see you for yourself. I promise you. Y'all have already turned low, bro. That's tough. That's so disgusting. What you mean? They turn me. I'm in here too.

Man, that's tough, bro. It's the truth. I think it is really hard. Every single time, and maybe I just have like the own, my own things I look for, but like, especially like pricing in particular.

Brose, I, Atlanta, and also, the amount of like content creators that are here so it's just like more things to do now than it was previously. Traffic has gotten much worse so I do I will concede that but like

pricing is really great affordability being able to move around other content creators. You make money though. Why do you keep that up? Because I want to get the most for my dollar. Okay. That's a very responsible thing to do. Like what we're talking about?

Okay, man. And on top of that, you know. It's irresponsible. Yeah, mad and mad irresponsible. And in this point, there's several places that are just safe. I don't know how, like, diversity is. But like, in Atlanta, it's much more diverse than I think people realize there's certain areas where you can go. I go like there's like, bro, there is like deep ties to segregation.

Is she here? Oh, no. It's very stark. If you're downtown, it's white. If you're on the west side where I live, it's real Latino from the south side is real black. It's very segregated. Yeah. But everybody's here, though.

Listen, everybody's segregated, but everybody's here. You know what I'm saying? You can go to your specific areas and find everybody that you want to find, but you just got to go to them. Yeah, like, you can go to, like, where I live is, like, damn, your little Puerto Rico. You can come here and get Mexican food and Puerto Rican food, like, real easily. It's just, like, everyone lives over here. That's Puerto Rican.

They got a town for Chinese people. They have that in Atlanta as well. They have that in Atlanta as well. See, you don't have to be so. Beesles ridiculous. Hey, man, I'm just saying. If you want to, if you want to, if you want to east side of Atlanta, like, not even time out.

And in the east of Atlanta, you got everything from Asian, African food, especially like Ethiopian and stuff like that. Hispanic, like, it's a lot of food over there. So it's just like, and community and stuff like that, too. I think one of the main separators for me and what's like the deal breaker. Okay. You have to

look for it, though. You got a community here. The main deal breaker is, brother, in the beach here is beautiful. Yes, okay. I will say we don't have water. That's the, exactly. If Atlanta had water, I genuinely would go toe to toe to with practically any city. Sure.

So food-wise, Chicago is stompsed. Everybody besides New York and I guess L.A. Beauty-wise, obviously, it stompsed Atlanta. I can just, like, beauty of it, which matters to me, but I know not to everybody. Affordability, obviously Atlanta gets it. Content creators is Atlanta. Okay, I'm not factoring content creators.

You're asking us. You're asking us. You're asking me. It's not being, bro. Come on. Did you have work reasons to want to say there? I understand that. But as far as the quality of the city, I don't know if I care about content creators.

You asking me, though. That's your regular 9 to 5 workers. Hmm. The Duke is here. But you can then also say like, man, the strip clubs. Like, come on. Oh, you know, this freak. Okay.

I'm just saying. It just depends on. That's your vibe. Yeah. I can't, I don't know what the Chicago scene is like, but it's obviously not Atlanta. It's not Atlanta. Not Atlanta. I never stepped into that a day in my life.

so I can't speak on that. Good answer. I never said. No one even asked him. What even is that? I don't even know what I said. I know about the wings, but God,

I don't know where it's located. How do they know about their wings? You're telling me there's a whole other section. What? They do what to the wings? They're right next to the wings What? Have you been to one?

No. Oh, okay. Yeah, fairs. Fares. Fares. Fares. Good answers, fellas. Good answers.

I like the sad of us, man. I've never been to. Shit. No, that's not a bit. He was quiet as a bitch. Just hell of money spreads in that pitch. He's a veteran There's a reason why he could wait to get out of Houston

man Houston God by the way He's here in Megastine in one ear Rotation The other song was crazy Love this song He's still not denied the existence of it Okay

I have it I have it Too late buddy Oh, good. Well, it sounds like you're getting jumped over here. Everybody's picking Chicago beside you. Yeah, I know. You're trying to be zoned.

I will say, so you might not like living here because of the snow and whatnot. If you do visit for a week in Chicago, you'll understand the vision. Everybody that visits in the summer is like, oh, I get it. This place is beautiful. You got to remind them that December comes a little different. But you will 100% get one over if you come in, like, July. I'm through, man. WMBA All-Star weekend in Chicago.

Is it really? Yeah. When is it? July, I think. Oh, okay. Oh. Damn, I was new. I mean, are they going to have a season?

True. If there is one that's going to be here. Okay, okay. I mean, I've definitely been told it's been great. So we'll see if I ever come out, man. We'll see. We're going to think drag your ass. We're going to change.

Yeah. Just pitching everyone. With that being said, that is the end of producer corner. Let's get on the TikTok time. Let's do the rest of the show. Let's have some fun. Welcome to TikTok time. as usual we're going to begin with the draft but as you guys see there's five people here

today so what are we going to do we're going to do a two v two draft me and low on one team versus moe and donovan be souls will be the decider of the winner who will be the judge at the end to tell us who won this draft it'll no longer be up to just the comments be souls will have the final say be so we got a cash out i do i'm more of an apple play that right now just make sure it's just make sure who so low how this works is we are going to spin a wheel it'll land on the team and we have to pick a player from that team. We can do all time for this draft. And since we're on a team together, we take turns picking.

You can go first, I'll go second, and we can't communicate back and forth. We got to pick. So if I sell you, you can't try to stop me. You guys gotta take it. Jesus, all right. I said, don't force that. I'm a Celtics fan, by the way. Just letting y'all know.

Okay, okay. The topic in this draft will be only drafting bald players throughout history. So anybody you want as long as they are bald In a year in which they're at their best when they're bald Okay Okay So first up which team we're starting with Spending it first time

Spend the wheel we're landing on You're at the say that out loud Beasolz I can't see this screen Yeah shit Can't zoom in the hornets This is the Charlotte Hornets First team is the Charlotte Hornets We stay getting the Charlotte Hornets

We always were haunted by the Hornets Yes Beasol's you don't go first Why don't me go first Um Yeah this is gonna be bad I guess I'm going to have to go Glenn Rice maybe Yep that's the big

That's the right thing Was he bald then? Yeah he was bald He was bald He was bald What? Was he bald then? He was always bald

Yeah Glenor Rice was he's hell bald Okay Small forward right Yeah Small forward yeah Fuck I see I think Alonzo had hair

When he was over there I'll check He had a little fro Yeah Yeah I think Alon had a flat top there Yeah he was bald in Miami me. I don't think he was, yeah, he wasn't bald in the hornets at all there.

Oh my goodness. This is a tough one. Another bald player for the hornets? That's hard. Have a second pick here is killing. Biznack Viombo was bald as hell in the Hornets. This is nasty, man. I love Bismack Bianbo.

Biznambiab was very bald. You can go Oka for. I know. That's, that's really, we're at, are we counting? Wait, so we just get the best version of them or the version of them? A bald version of them. Come on. You know how this goes.

Don't try to cheat it Don't try to do some technicalities That's how I just wanted to establish the rules Okay You take either one This is not my pick I think We can go with someone who's like very usable

He's not a star He's just a guy who exists In the rotation Give me Egghead Henderson Garenderson Am I too Okay Harold Anderson

Yeah That's a Crazy pool, man. Yeah. Okay. And you could give me some verticality. Okay. Man, wasting your two spot for Gerald Henderson is.

Who else did I have? No, I'm saying, we roll again. Well, listen. We might switch things up. He might be in our six men. Yeah, there's a six men on us. He might. I don't know.

I don't know. Listen, we did a draft like this like, what, two weeks ago. We got the Charlotte Hornets like three times. We did. Oh, that's exactly. I spin it again, Bysolz. We go team number two. If we end up getting the Hornets again, he might be our starter.

Who is Donovan picking from? Who are you starting off with? Team number two is the Indiana Pacers. It was the whole era. By the way, peak Geroa Henderson average fucking 15 points. Great. On 45% shooting from the field. Sick.

Solid. Sick. Glenn Ross got MVP votes. Okay. With the Pacers. Mind you. Beesles, can you move Henderson down to our six minutes spot? Let's do it.

Let's do it. Yeah, I'm going to take Reggie Miller at our shooting guard. Okay. This is tough. I can go Germain O'Neill. I think Ron Artestead was also bald. Do we want to get a wing defender? Actually, was he bald in the Pacers?

Maybe not. I don't know if he was. Am I making that up? Okay, let's assume he wasn't bald. Then, you know, fine. We'll go Germaine O'Neill at the power forward. Perfect. He wasn't bald.

Rontest was bald? Yeah. Either way, I don't know. I would rather have. Yeah. yeah yeah all right next team team number three where we're going team number three team number three back to low oh oh oh the

Dallas mavericks oh bald Mavs already we can get our point guard we can but keep in mind you get a version of that player yeah he wasn't yeah he was bald he was older oh this is nasty um bald Mavs oh let's let's do the Six-Man Egghead himself. Jason Terry.

I hate Jason Terry. Okay. You hate Jason Terry. I hate Jason Terry. Okay. Jason Terry is this man. Okay. I'm cool with that. All right.

So on you, Brody. Gerald Henderson is hilarious. He was a good player, bro. He's cool. It was funny. He had some years, Ra.

Egghead Henderson. Not Gerald. Egg. Girl. Okay. I don't want, I don't know if I want to go kid. I could.

wouldn't be bad. Yeah, old school, old school Jason kid wouldn't be the worst. He wasn't bald though. That's why I didn't pick him. He had hair back then. He had blonde hair and everything.

He was not. He was bald. He was old. Second stint. Second stint. Oh, so you want, okay, you do want 35 year old. Potentially.

2011. Yeah. So that or I'm thinking like, Vince Carter wasn't like, oh, like useless back then either. He was playing. I can't.

You know? I can't tell you who to pick, but I will react based on the words that are... I have to go ahead and take it, man. Not, not Vince Car. Give me Jason Kidd. Oh, okay. I thought you said, no. I was like, oh, man.

I was like, why did you take consideration? You did not have to take Vince Carter. Was I should Chandler Ball there? It was like, no. Nah, that was a New York thing. No, New York thing. Yeah, yeah. Fair. It was like clean shaving in New York.

Okay, fair. Then, I made sure you can see it. Next team, next team. Here we go. It's on me. Please. Orlando. Orlando.

Oh, no magic. Perfect. Damn it. You guys, you're getting blessed with Hall of Famers. Perfect.

We will take Shaquille on you. Fuck. Oh, man, there we go. That really saved this. I love it. That really saved this.

I was blessed twice in a row. Ridiculous. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, I wasn't liking how I seen were shaping up. Reggie Miller, Kidd and Shaq.

Oh, you're so lucky. Yes. Fuck, yes. We have right now no space on this fucking team. Yeah, we're not.

I bet I got a shooter for you. We have a, there's a healthy amount of bald options on this team. Yeah, there is. It's a team construction now. Yeah, Jim Murdoz was right there. Go ahead.

He won't bald. Are you sure? Is it my turn? It was, I don't think you were bald. You got a shadow fade. Y'all actually have a decent amount of options here. Yeah, but obviously, I'm just saying.

There are some. We're going to go Dwight Howard to center and try to match Jack and hope to God we get good shooters. What? What? Why was bald? No.

No. Oh, fuck. Okay. Dwight's never been bald. Yeah, Dwight's not bald. It was super low, then. It was a low cut. He was never bald.

No. I swear he was bald. No. Like, bald by choice. I know he was never like bald, No. No, no. Oh, okay.

Never mind. It was a military type cut. Oh, I don't know why I thought he was bald for like some of those early years. Also, uh, another Vince Carter team. I'm right. He wasn't bald. Oh, you're right. You guys could go with Vince Carter?

Oh, who can I go with? I was just thinking Dwight. No, no. Why did I think Dwight was bald? That's crazy. I don't know why. Was Timak bald at any point? No.

I don't know. You're trying to hallucinate for the past. Team Mac rather die than he's bald. He had to himself. He had a bald. He wasn't he? Is Frant's bald? Is Pant's bald?

Is Penny Hardaway balls? Oh, well, damn. I don't know who to pick now. Oh, man. I can't think of any ball play. No, there is one. Stop. There's a good baldy on the team.

Oh, good baldy on the team? There is one. I don't know who am I missing. Jaylon sucks. No. He's baldew. Ballet. Not there yet.

I legit. You got to help me. I can't think of anybody. I can't say anything. We're going to work the rules. I'm missing your for a while. I'm sorry. Just pick a name.

Well, then I got to help. I'm giving you a name, Vince Carter. I'm fucking out of my face. Come on, man. Time up. I'm giving you a name. You can't be a ridiculous name. Oh, did I pick Gortats?

Ooh. So bad. Your name. Gortas are bad. Yeah, again, second. Oh, man. Batchel. All right, Lo, go ahead.

Help you team. Yeah, you had to pick. Because I don't know. What swap picks? Oh, no. I was going to, like, D3. Like having a three-point shooter, Dennis Scott. Exactly.

that. Okay, that's the pick. Okay, Dennis Scott, there you go. Shooting Guard. I'll put the next one. I'm hopeless. I know we're not supposed to switch picks, but I'm going to blank. We got a switch. Yeah, we get, we get some shooting on this team. Not bad.

You need to be saved right now. Next team. Next team. Bulls. Bulls! Oh, box! Oh! Bucks! Oh!

So close to. So close. Stay quiet. Stay quiet. Kareen was in ball to the Lakers. Bools I don't Get on here

Not too much Shut up Not too much Not too much Damn that sucks Well it's not on me Oh because we switch Oh so when we do that

Do I lose my pick or do we switch? You switch Okay Yeah Oh Why was a Korean bald there He wasn't bald there Was he?

Was he? No Can I say so? I don't know I'm trying to stay about the rules. I don't know. I think y'all can answer that. It was Ray Allen bald there? I think he was.

I think he was. I thought, I think he's at like the lowest possible. Yeah, he's the last year going into season. Yeah, he did last year. Can we, should we check that? I'll double check. I think we go to no point guard. We just go hell of shooting and try to get some kind of. No, he was a lot.

He always had here. Yeah. Yeah. Damn, he wasn't bald in the bucks. Bro, these ballies are hard to come by. It's hard to think of these baldies. Hold on wait, one was No, Kareem, he had here

I think Kareem had hair Until he went to L.A. Unless, let me do it all off As soon as you got there Research, I would double check Yeah, but these niche ones We gotta do some research Jared Bayliss

I could have picked Chris Middleton He's bald now But he's bald he's good He very clearly had hair I'm dumb I don't know why you might look at Kareen Cream had hell of hair

Yeah, Kareen had hope and everything Kyle Kuzmus was bald as a bitch Wait Kakuza? No, I think so Well, I'm not going to pick him anyways

So it doesn't matter Or could we Could we just go deep Was Sidney Moncrief bald at any point? Oh man We all tap it right now He for sure He had a pro

I think He was just receding And that's That's the problem With everybody in the 70s and 80s They didn't care So they were just They were bawled in

But nobody was like Ball like that I ain't a lie you might have to go with the, uh, oh. Yeah, I'm, I'm just helping about even more. Michael Red. Wasn't Michael Red ball? I just check.

It's, it's right on that line. It's like, it's like one millimeter above Doc Rivers. Okay. So that begs the question. Does somebody have to have a fresh cut shiny ball or can they be a little bit of gross? You might have to go. Because in the next. He'll have to bring back Dwight Howard.

He didn't want to bring back the way out. He's got it. We're putting Michael Red at point guard We're already any point guard We're hoping to get a point center Okay, you know what? For this specific team, we will allow it. We'll go Michael Red there.

We will take, we'll take Chris Middleton. Okay, that makes sense of your three. Fair. Everybody wins. Yeah. All right, so Glenn Rice is going to be initiating for us. We got no point guard. We got Hellishian.

We might have to put Germain at the five, but we'll see. We'll see. We'll see. We'll see. That won't be bad, but Hell is you and Chris? That's nice. last team the wheel is not

the bucks is getting cut no way oh the sixers sixers the sixers the sixers bald 70 sixers Jared Bayliss again Jared Bayliss again

Jared Bayliss everywhere I don't know if there's any ballplayers over the last like in this decade there at all looking to my eyes right now yeah Your eyes are telling me nothing.

Do not miss this. Okay, so let's, okay, so I need a four. Not taking out for that shit. That shit ain't happening, bro. Although you can't do that. Oh, man. Wait, who are the wings? Stop playing.

No, I'm being dead ass right now. I don't know these. It's hard to remember these ballplayers and stuff. We're taking too much time. Help them. I ain't go why. No, no, no, no, no. Because this pick, this pick will determine.

You're right, you're right. This pick is tough. This pick will determine. We can't, we can't switch picks right here. Well, I mean, we've been switched. We did. We never switched picks. We switched picks once.

I guess we got to give it to them. Can we get a trade in? Yeah, go ahead. Trading. We are taking Charles Barkley at the floor. Oh. He never would have got there. Fuck.

We said the president. We shouldn't have switched. Yeah, we should not have switched. Yes. Because Barclis would. Barclay. Damn. We switched for fucking Scott.

Damn it. For this guy. Fuck. Oh, my gosh. D3. We should have picture of here Nelson and kept a pushing.

Damn. Barclay, Barclay is the is the pick. Barkley is the pick I was thinking. So you got to go, man. You guys, I don't pick the last three players. At this point, you guys can converse,

take your last pick. Oh, it's my pick. Oh, I thought I don't know. I thought I got credit from Mark and Michael Redd. Take your last pick together. Was Wilbaudet or all? No. No.

That's too early. I don't think so either. That's too early. Okay. Do we want to move January? made order to the five. And pick. And pick another shooter because, I don't know, I don't make if Matumbo was bald there,

but do we want to have just like no spacing? The only, only other player, I think Dr. J might have been bald towards a tail of in his career. That might be the, no. He was always froed out. He's always had hair. Yeah, I don't think everyone bald. Oh, no, he was, he had a shorter fro.

Yeah, I don't think everyone bald. So we can go for a spacer, I guess. Or we just go big, and I get Matumbo, and we just have shooting with two bigs. that's not a good team Jermaine O'Neill is so nasty that's not a good team but I mean it sounds like we might have to go that route

I mean I think Iggy went out of here He had here until Golden State I think Yeah I think These options are not good They're bad

Was early Was No y'all just be true We're just don't We just put them Ball and he's fun They have done of me

ball No, no. Um, in all honesty, in all honesty, I have no idea because my, I was, I was locked sit on Charles Barkley. So your,

your, your, your, your, your, guess is as good as mine because I really and truly have no idea who I would even know.

Jay, that's all the thing, it has to be more than just one ball player to play for the Sixers ever. Because I'm trying to think of a legend that will save us and make us have a chance of winning, but that's not happening.

But that's not happening. So we're going out, being tough and being cool. Give us with a time. at the center. We weren't going to, we're not going to catch up with three, four Hall of Famers on your team.

Sidebar and Sumbar is not bald, but we're going to have to just keep it pushing, man. Oh, whatever. He was in the ball. Hey, I don't know who's bald. The six is, we're just cutting me his hands.

You're bald, your ball. My bald radar is horrible. Yeah, I'm not going to lie. As a judge of this draft, Mo and Don cooked. Yeah, you don't fucking say. Surprise, surprise.

Just need to say it for the clip. Thank you. Damn, we got cooked. Yeah, we did. We took... Shot to the wheel, man. We took Egghead Henderson with our first pick and recovered beautifully. Insane recovery.

Where can we have gone differently? I don't know. We just got fucked. I wanted... Did you know about Barclay? Yeah, I knew about Barclay, but I figured there's no chance that we're going to let you buy. I'm not going to lie if Mo and Don didn't switch at that pick, it would be a much more interesting conversation.

Yeah. I definitely would have picked Barkley. Yeah. But we got it. Tough. There you go. That's the draft. Sometimes it will break your way.

Sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes you know bald head. Sometimes you don't. Finally. Next thing we're going to do. We are going to guess NBA teams by their pre-draft comparisons. So you're going to see point guard, shooting guard, small forward all the way through center. And you're going to see a player on there.

But it's going to be who they were thought to play like before they were drafted. Okay. So try to figure out who we're looking at based on that. Beasoles, what have you put together for us? Yes, let me just pull up the answer sheet over here. He's going to show us the answer sheet. Show us what we're working with. All right, here we go.

Guess the NBA teams by their draft comparisons. Team number one. This is a nasty team. So the first one. Y'all need me to read this? That's a date. Yes, yes. Yeah, it's kind of small.

All right, okay. Up top, that's Delante West. To the right, that is Jimmy Butler. To the left, that is Etouan Moore. Bottom left, Danny Granger, bottom right, Andrea Bargiani. Oh my God. These are their pre-draft comparisons.

I see Danny, Andrea Bargiani, for some reason, I think Alper in Shangoon first. I'm thinking, I'm thinking of Porzingis somehow. Yeah, not too many people. The draft comparisons always are, if you're white, we're going to compare you to somebody else white. And then if you're, if you are European,

you are also getting a European thing. Jimmy Butler, though. Who might that be? Do you think somebody was like a man? Could be Jimmy Butler? But who's the... Who's the Ponga? Yeah.

I was thinking like maybe Porzingis or something. I was thinking of the jazz with Lari Marketing. Danny Granger. That sounds like that could be Katie or Jabari Smith. These aren't good draft comparisons, but I feel like I can imagine

people saying that. Oh, no, Katie was before Danny Granger. That's stupid. Never mind. So this is after... And even post Jimmy Butler is tough. Like, that's fairly recent.

You're right. Katie eliminated. This can't be. the can't be the Rockets Delante West who the fuck is Delante West? I do want to say these are not just current teams by the way Oh that's it could be all time

Oh shit okay Yeah yeah yeah yeah Who might be compared to Oh wait is this the Celtics 2024? You are Correct there we go Yeah yeah you were right Delante West

Okay wow Yeah I saw Danny Granger so that sounds like some Tatum shit Yeah that makes sense All right next team They will call him Drew Holiday Delatay West I guess so Next team we have not applicable

At top that is a hint Um Look Magic Johnson on the left Hito Turcalu on the right Antoine Jameson Bottom left David Robinson

David Robinson Magic Johnson This team must have been nasty Bray Yeah Matt But nasty not in a good way This has to be a bad team We really just look at Magic Johnson

Who the fuck is compared to him Is Ben Simmons team? It's only It's only Braun and But shooting guard I don't know But it would like Again the only people that that you're thinking about

As Magic Johnson Just like the greatest passage of all time Maybe at the two Maybe that's like You would have never said that about Jane Do you think it's Ben Simmons and Embed? Yeah that's what I was just thinking Ben Simmons and Embed

But I don't know why they'd line Ben Simmons up a shooting guard Maybe it's a team with Fultz Like maybe is this So the non-applicable one is the one So it Maybe he was just a lot of it undrafted? Undrafted prospect, yeah, at the

It also might be like a question mark to make it hard. So we don't know anything about that. Possibly. Antoine Jameson, though, as a floor space at the fore. And he do. It's probably a white guy. Potentially a white guy.

This has to be an older, older team. Probably. To get David Robinson Com, you just got to be swall. Like Aitin was getting David Robinson Com. He's got to be an athletic freak. What if this was Aiton?

Who the fuck did Aidan play with that's like Magic Johnson? What if it's, what if it's bra? Oh my God. is Hidu, Luca, and Braun is magic, and that's Aiden, that's this year's fucking Lakers. That's the Lakers. That's nasty. Why do you have a broad as shooting guard?

Yeah. You're devious demon. I told you. You're devious. I told you. Gidu Turgalu for Luca is ridiculous. That's nasty. You know what it is.

Amen. You from over there? He was from over there. You're all the same. Yeah. Okay. That makes sense. Next up.

We have LeBron. Who's this? Drazen. Um, Drozzen Petrov. on the left, Chris Humphreys on the right, not applicable, bottom left,

and Tim Duncan. I want to only talk about Chris Humphreys comparison. Chris Humphrey's comparison is tough. Yo, I'd stay in college if I got compared to him, man. Fuck that.

LeBron. So is this a 76ers? Is that Ben Simmons? Nah, because who's, that's not Joel Embed. Seamination? Which year?

2019? Correct. What? What? Ben Simmons is LeBron. It had to be Ben Simmons. But it beat to. Timmy Butler because he was.

Tim Duncan? I'm confused by that. I mean, I get it. I mean, like, coming out as a prospect, he was thought to be a really good defender and it could have, he has a jump shot.

That made sense. These comparisons, is crazy. Tobias Harris and Chris Humphreys, that's how I knew. That's the most accurate one. That is a crazy comparison. Chris Humphreys.

I'm pissed off. 2019, Tobis was a bad, man. They're not terribly dissimilar. One's obviously better. But like, okay. Next up,

we have LaTrell Sprewell at point. Um, Chris Bosch At the two At the two Chris Bosch Yo, you're cooking his B

Tracy McGrady Imam Shumpert At the four And Bobby Portis Okay so clearly These are not like At the positions right Or was the two guard here

Actually getting Chris Bosch Comparison? He was Okay There was a shooting guard that was getting Chris Bosch comparisons Brother you're cooking You know

Folks are not wrong thing here. There's a power forward that was getting Emon Schumper comparison. And it's getting Bobby Portis. This is a little bit of a hint. This is a current team.

This is a team with like four power forwards. This is the very positionless basketball. This is the Rockets. This is the Houston. Yeah, we get KDS. Chris Bosch. Oh no, Jabari Smith Jr. Chris Bosch. Okay. That's fair.

I see why this team is failing right. Like I see why this team is failing right now. Yeah. Yeah. Bobby Porter's Com's hilarious, but I get it. That's crazy. Four power four. Oh my God.

Chris Bossett. We're doomed. That didn't even look crazy when I was writing in doubt, but now seeing it on the thing was like, oh my God. You put Josh Akoji at the four in your party, too. You keep fucking us. No, Jabari is, I mean, it would be the tour. That is. That is how they're running lineups is, is.

I guess. I guess. It's positionless bad. Bobby Portis at the five. All right. Next team. Imagine Bobby Portis. We have magic.

Post touches. Chris Bosch running on the street. We got Magic and Rashid holding it down with the one five. Yeah, we have Magic Johnson at the one. Andre Miller at the two, not applicable at three. Glenn, that's the wrong Glenn Robinson. Is that a son?

Is this the Detroit Pistons? Then Rashid Wallace at the 5. This is not the business current day? No, no. The only people that I can remember getting Magic Johnson comps are LeBron. They said Lonzo.

Luca's been in that conversation. Ben Simmons has been in that conversation. Just like the best passers over the last 10 to 15 years. Rashid. No, imagine a team with a bad court is nothing but two passers who can't shoot. Oh, God.

That's literally what, like, two players who got comes who are just passing the ball back and forth for one another. I mean, that's just their pre-draft comp. No, I know, I know, but like, just a mad, like, that's who they were pegged to be. Do you think this is the 2019 Lakers, and that's LeBron and Lanzo ball? No, that's not. Not that. It can't be.

Could have been. Glenn rising on that little ingram? I don't know. Um, a five that pops. Andre Miller. Andre Miller, I think like Tyrese Halliburton, maybe, but Benson.

That's such a specific, like old school type of player. Yeah, like they think you're going to be a pound the rock, do chest passes. And that just doesn't happen anymore. Is this the player that's playing today? That's Andre Miller. No.

Okay, so we're tired. That makes more sense then. That makes more sense then. Maybe a Chris Paul. They probably came around the same time. It's an older team than Chris Paul? No, no, no. But they can't be that old because Andre Miller isn't some ancient player.

So it has to be like a late 2000s, early 2010's team. Is this, is this harder than him? Is it hard than Chris Paul? Harding than him. No. Okay, okay, okay. You don't you have to get that. I'm just saying, I'm just saying.

Harding to them. Come off, bro. I'm just saying, like, that's what it's, because PJ Tucker and then you got a pick and pop big. I'm going to, we cooked. Yeah, I think we're cooked. All these magic Johnson cops are fucking me up. That's fair. That's fair.

This is the 2013 Knicks. I would have never got that. Jason Kemp's? Man. Well, all right. Raymond. I think,

I think, I think, Andre Miller. Yeah, that's fair. I just didn't, I feel like to get Magic Johnson Combs. You got to be six nine.

Dude, Raymond Felton comp is crying me, man. That's insane. You're going to hell if you ask you to think about Raymond Felton pre-job comparisons. They're calling mellow Glenn Rice. Okay.

How was Tyson Chandler, Rashid? That confused me when I saw it. Yeah, that's, who made that come? Uh, I'm pretty sure,

like 90% of these are from NBA draft.net. Okay. So. All right. Next up, we have Jason Kidd Kevin Durant,

Magic Johnson. Damn. Andrew Bynum and Jared Jeffreys. That's the four. It's why.

Yeah. Okay. I'm okay. I'm a dog. Oh, man. You know, this is the greatest theoretical team of all time.

Kevin Durant and fucking Magic Johnson Combs. Okay, so Katie Combs. MPJ. Amati Bates. Stuff like that. Amonni B.I.

B.I. Okay. Is this a 2019? Yes. This is my B. Yes. This is the 2019 Lakers. That makes sense.

Coos was crazy. Fuck. That fits. Oh, man. Hey, remember when we thought Lanzo was going to be Jason kid? That was a good time. Yeah. That was a good time.

I fully believed it. My 18-year-old. Lakers fans off, thought he was the one. All right. Next up. That's you showing. We have question mark at point. Marco Bellanelli.

Vladay Divac at the five. Jared Dudley and hold on. Jared Dudley? No, I exiled. Marco Bellanelli cops? Who is that the three? That's supposed to be Glenn Rice. Is this?

Is this the current day nuggets? No damn Okay but a lot of DeVoc it's probably some kind of like skilled big Yeah skill big

Marco Bellanelli shooter Glenn Rice at the three That's Glenn Rice at the three Another shooter We saw Glenn Rice earlier Who was it

Mello It was Mello Yes Marco Bellanelli next to him It's like the Kings Do we think it's another Mello team What is it a Kings team

The Bonus D'Bot? No No You don't give out Glenn Rice Coms left and right I wonder if it's

another Mello team But who was he playing at the five that was skilled enough to pass like that? See, he played with the Lakers. I don't think AD you can't invite A.D. He's not doing that. He played with the Trailblazers. I don't, who's the center at the time? Nurkich? Fuck. Oh, maybe.

Let me speed this up. This is not a mellow team. Okay. Never mind. Who the fuck is Jared Dudley. Y'all gonna laugh. Jared, Jared. Jared. Jared. Jared. Just has to be like a floor spacing for.

Sure. There's not that many, there's not that many like passing. Is this like Al Horford and Grant William? sure I don't know man just tell me this is the 2016 warriors oh

oh oh okay okay okay marko bell and really cons for clay is nasty that makes sense though I get it

yeah I think if I gave y'all like the curry comp that would have gave it away who was the curry comp it was Mahmood Abdul yeah

yeah that would be yeah I definitely would get it all right next up we have Chris Paul Brandon Roy Damn this is that team

Adam Haluska Except who Okay That's on purpose Tracy McGrady And Dwight Howard Damn Stars

So a lot of top picks Obviously They should be winning Chit Is this I see Dwight Howard I think of muscular Chiseled

Mewers I see a passer At point guard Is this the Pistons No Fuck Damn Who's the

No I thought Jalen Dern and Cade But the Who's T-Mack Fuck if I know. Yeah. Sorry.

Teamack is a crazy. Alex Sar. Oh, is this? Is this? Is this last year's Indiana Pagetian scene? Nope. Do you see? I don't know.

I don't know. Miles Turner. Yo. That would be the worst draft comp of all time. People need to be fine. I thought I did. I thought I did. You're going to get Dwight.

You have to be a strong shot blocker, like, athletic big. That's the best place to start. Let me say this The first thing Donovan said Was a hint What did he say? I said, oh, they should be winning chips Okay, should be winning chips

Should be Should be Should be They're not They're not Current team No, not a current team They should have been winning chips

Chris Paul, Brandon Roy, You got two ball handlers You're not getting Brandon Roy comes on since you're like guard Like six five and under Yeah

So two smallish players But a passer But teams So I'm thinking about teams that like 2021 Brooklyn Nets they're like underachieved. You are correct. There we go.

Yep. Two skill ball handlers. That's what I was in. The Joe Harris comp got me. I had to look him up. Bro didn't even play in the league. How do you get an NBA com to a dude that wasn't in the league? That's crazy.

That is ridiculous. All right. Next up, we have Mookie Blaylock. Michael Jordan. That's supposed to be Glenn Rice again. Glenn Rice. Sean Kemp and Will Chamberlain. Why are you putting so much Glenn Rice in my life?

I don't know. A lot of these wings used to get compared to Glenn Rice. That was the go-to. If you could shoot, you were Glenn Rice. Michael Jordan and Wilk Chamberl. This is a Kobe and Shack? Yes. 2001 Lakers?

No. No. 2004 Lakers. No. It's not a Kobe Shackney. But is it a late Kobe team? It's not a Kobe team. 2006 Miami Heats.

No. David. It's not Shackett. Jack. To get a Will comparison is audacious. And Michael

and Michael Jordan one on the same team is oh say it. No, I, no one

saying towns is Will Chamberlain so I know that's not the case. I was about to say Andrew Wiggins in town.

I was not about to say no, that's not that's not. I'm not what's more offensive towns to

Will or Andrew Wiggins to Jordan yeah. No, I hope nobody was doing that. Um,

there's not too many like guards that got MJ comparisons that wouldn't have gotten Kobe if he got too

later in the timeline. That's Sean Kemp at the four. So two athletic beings playing together. Willett is just throwing me off. Michael Jordan. This is going to be some bullshit. In a defensive. Like Lashak teams.

I don't think it's Shaq. Oh, is it Shaq? It's not the magic. Let me give you all a hint. Wilt is Shaq. Okay, this is the magic. And that's Penny Hardaway. This is not the magic.

What the fuck we said everybody? What? Is it, it's 06? What's call it? The Heat team? No. No. Is it the Cavs?

No. Getting close. Motherfuckers. Is the Seltics? What the fuck? Is Paul Piers? The 2011 Celtics? Oh, you go to hell.

Man. Man. I didn't get it. Michael Jordan Cohn? I can see that. I get that. I looked it up, man. I get that.

Why are you saying that? I don't get that. No, I'm not saying that's, but you don't get Michael Jordan comps. No, I'm not saying it was smart, but I get why they did it

coming in at that time when they said this shooting guard who can slash and dunk and can shoot the ball to dribble. Like, I get why they did it. Not saying it was genius, man.

Be serious, man. I'm not saying it was smart. Yeah, we have to lock you. Also, Glenn Rice to Paul Pierce. Finally, the Glenn Rice name made sense. All right. Last one. Dante X-O-Bray.

Kelly Ubrey. Team for disappointments. Holy shit. Justin Champagne is a draft comp. He's got drafted last year. That's Glenn Rice again. I ain't going to lie. Bro.

You love Glenn Rice? I don't love Glenn Rice. These draft comps love Glenn Rice. I've had enough of Glenn Rice. And then question marks. These guys you just got drafted. This is right around the corner. Yeah, the fact that this is like,

is this the Wizards from this year? No. Okay. Is this because you saw a jazz? No. To get Uber and Champany, you are the most random role player. Is this the current team?

This is the current team. It has to be. The Hawks. It is not. Recession. Good God, no. Oh, man. Um.

Kelly Ubre You think the guy's pretty Is that why they got the draft comp? Is the shooting guard pretty? Don't ask me that Just answer it Just answer it I want to say he's ugly

Okay The fact that you even What are we doing? Dante X him at point guard This is nasty You got Is this? Is this?

It's not Nevermore You got a six It's not five six point guard This is a current player This is a current team It has to be It's a rebuilding team

clearly. Ubrey and Glenn Rice at the four and Dante X. So now I'm thinking about somebody, a team that like, obviously NBA draft.

net things very highly of Glenn Wright. They really do, so you have really nothing around you and then you have Glenn Rice. Is this the Blazers? I don't know, man.

No. Is this the Mavericks? Getting closer. You are getting close. Is it the Spurs? Yes, it's the Spurs. Okay.

He just took out Webby. You put the other Champani you motherfucker. Oh. Okay. The crazy part is Julian Champany's draft comp is just his brother. I found that hilarious. Kevin Devin Bissell to Ubrey.

All right. Come on, man. Those are nasty comp. Those are all nasty comp. So we did see Glenn Rice multiple times the same player. It was Harrison Barnes. It was Harrison Barnes. This is nasty, man.

It's always Harrison Barnes. This might have been my worst performance in TD3 history. Yeah, that was bad. That was bad. That was bad. Next thing we are going to do, we've been talking a lot about the newest NBA star to emerge this season one of the most

promising up and coming players that we have the fortune to root for from one of us on this couch. We're going to talk

about Zachary Ries and the rest of the 2024 NBA draft class. We are going to grade year two NBA players based on how they've been this season. Okay.

Yes. So how satisfied have you been with the leap they made this season? Who got it first? Okay. First up.

Zachary Rises Shee. I'm not satisfied at all. We talk about a leaf. He did the complete opposite of a leap, bro. Leaped into the

fucking sewers. F, bro, like he recently got bench, you know that? For who? Tell us. C.J. McCollum. Tough. C.J. We got smaller, bro, as a team.

He went from getting 22, 23 minutes tonight to 19. Is there anything we can look to as a silver line to give him like an F plus at least? No. Oh, he has a little attitude now these days. He'd be like kind of going back and forward. It's a little bit. Yeah. It's a little feisty.

Yeah, a little feisty. You're arguing with the refs. Yeah, exactly. Do y'all remember his draft call? was Harrison Barnes. You haven't lived up to Harrison Barnes draft comparisons.

This is an F. You haven't even lived to 35-year-old Harrison Barnes. Fact, you're getting lapped. By Harrison Barnes. That's crazy.

It couldn't be worse. Obvious F. Next up, we have Alex R. Shout out to Sarr, could be in A considering

like how big of a leap he was last year. He was taking like five threes a game and something asinine. He was most inefficient score in the NBA last year. Yeah.

Yeah. Is he Hoopin? He's picking his spots a lot better. Are we giving him, what, B plus? I think if B plus is good. B plus. I go good B plus. Defensively, he's way better than I really thought.

I knew he had an upside, but defensively, he's amazing. Yeah, I think he's made, like, what you want to see from a year or two big like this, that's still with a bad team without, like, playmakers. He's showing all the right steps. He hasn't. To get an A, I think you had to, like, make a real, real leap or we're like, oh, this is a guy, but he's well on his way. Yeah, it has to be.

like transformational and he's not just that yet because he has no players on this, they'll transform his offensive game but he's doing like 39% from the field last year. I know. It's pressed his seven footers. To no longer be doing that, you're going to be plus. Tray Young Aidee can't change

his life. I can't wait honestly. For 30 games. For 30 games. It's a bit rich for my blood, probably 15. Do you think Trey Young and Anthony Davis are going to play more than 40, more than 43 games together? Yeah, together.

No, not, no, no. 43, you jumped that up way too much. You were 30 hours with you, you know, I thought it was funny, but jumping up more than half the season is crazy. You're ridiculous. Calm down. Next up. Stefan Castle. A plus, right?

Yeah, I think he probably deserves to be an A. He's going to be like, he's like an all defensive level defender this year being a vital part of a team that ended up being the two seed right now. That's got to be an A plus. Yeah, I have to. If they go into a playoff series right now, you feel comfortable. about closing games with Stefan Castle. Yeah. Is Stefan Castle going to be an all-star?

I don't know about an all-star, but definitely like all-defenseant-team type of caliber player early on in his career. Yeah, I had to say it to A, especially looking at like the rest of the draft. He's going to get really shaky right quick. He's probably the only A, yeah. Yeah, yeah, so yeah, I'll definitely give Stefan A. Damn. Being surrounded by a bunch of mid-helps.

Yeah, he's certified, will be good. And a lot of these players, I don't know. He has taken the biggest leap. Man, that draft class was bad. It's terrible. Rishishish and everything they said about y'all was true. Is Rishish a better draft pick than this female, Luke? No.

Yes. Why would he be? Starting today, we'd rather have Rishersh or Luke and R next year. Dude, Lucan R be pissing me off. I'm sorry. Keep me away from him. If you could salary him at Rishishish, would you do it? No.

Nah. Let's get it. No. I'm kidding. Next one. Guy like me would. So I'm not kidding. How about that?

Reed Shepard. Up and down season. Where does it net out? Honestly, this is his real rookie year. So damn never would give this a C plus C. I think you can give him like flassy. Yeah. There's some ups.

He's shown he can do some things offensively. The defense has kept him off the court at times. It's a mixed bag. C feels extremely appropriate. I got him at a prospect, by the way. I got him at a C as well. I wasn't the biggest fan of them getting read at that pick. But also kind of now just looking at that draft.

It's kind of nasty. Yeah. He's had moments where, he's like really, really great. And for a rocket scene that needs three-point shooting, he gives that to them. He does, but he also gives the other team three-pointers

and he does not guard anybody. So, yeah, he'd be on the bench sometimes. I'm going to see. Free twos all day. It's so tough, though, because he's not, like, he's such a weird defender where you can blow by him every time, but he also gets hella steals

with he hello plays. Like, he's going to be so controversial because of that. Because, like, they advanced out to say he has defensive impact because he makes plays and ends possessions, which is important. But if I watch that game, I see people post them up,

but doesn't look good. Yeah. Yeah. Zach Eadie. The injuries. He played about 11 games. In that 11 games, I saw the best player on the Grizzlies.

I saw a guy who I'm pretty confident is going to be like a high, high, high, close to all-sler level player. But it's only 11 games. Damn. You seen that? I ain't seen no All-Star. No, not All-Star.

That he loves, bro. Not all-star. No, like, sub-all-Star. You know those guys are like some of the best role players in the league. Nah, stand on it. You said also.

Still. So I said the word all-star, but I didn't say All-Star he's going to be one of the 24 best players in the world. I saw the OG and Obias Centers. No, you did. You did. That's why he said high. High-high. Yeah.

That's why he said high, like, four times. I don't know. I said high level or old-thar, close to all-star level. Oh, okay, okay. So what's you given? What's the grade you're giving us then? Well, I was going to say before I got to jump to say he else in play, so I can't give him a good grade. because you got hurt right away.

Incomplete, man. It's unfair to give him a grade right now. Now, I'll go D plus because we did see. Okay, D's always if he's been bad. I'm only saying because with guys who are like 7, 3, 74, you always have questions about them with injuries. And then this year is kind of proven that a little bit more of like, dang, he might have those injury concerns moving forward.

So like, you're proving something, but just in the worst way. I think he could be as good as Zubuch, who did make an all-star team. but it was close to that production level in any given year. I think he can be Zubatch. Okay. I guess.

I'm going to go with Donovan as well. I'm not high on Zach Ede at all. I'm going to give it like a D. I give him a C. There we go. They'll all see. Donovan Clingin. Ooh, I'm going like.

He extended his three point rank. He is. He's taking him now. Legit option from there now. It's not great, no. But I won't feel too bad. He's trying. He's trying to develop it.

He's shooting him. Yeah. And you know what? That's a big part of development. Some guys don't take them. It is a start. It is a start. Dreadful hands.

Awesome drop defender. Solid B-plus rookie season, I think. I think he's going well to what you want. Yeah. I think it's a C-plus. Is he living up to the Rudy Goldberg comps? Well, that's pretty hard to live up to. Yeah.

I wouldn't say so, no. On pace, at least. No? Yeah, he's going to work for DP-O-Y and have a three-point shot. If you thought he could be that as a rookie, I guess you could still think that, but I've never thought that, so I'm not going to go there. Taking into consideration who was available at that time, I'm going to go probably like a C plus, but yeah, he's like a lot of like negative attributes to him. But he's a really good rebounder showing some promise.

So C plus with some upside. Yeah, C plus is adequate. I'm going to be minus four. Fair. Next one. Disrost track class is terrible, man. Ron Holland. Well, I think he's proven to be a very impactful like spark plug energy defensive role player this year.

he has and he fits right into everything that Detroit wants to do which is fight and he does ready to go he's he's ready so I for that for the culture fit alone I'm going to no no a plus even this is another like C maybe a minus for him bro he's shooting like 42% from the field which is worse than last year 22% three-point shooter damn yeah that's what I said for the culture alone and jb bickers staff loves him and He's going to play him. When you're a prospect whose whole thing is, if the three-point shot develops would be a problem,

the three-point shot got worse. I can't really give you a good grade. Yeah. The only saving grace for this draft class is if, like, in 20 years, we hear, like, a Rashad McCann's workout story. Ron Hahn gets to see. Rashad McCant's conversation.

Come on, man. Are you all tapped into the beef? Yo, no, oh, the video's coming out in an hour, man. I'm tapped into that, man. You know, that beef is hilarious. It is. All right. Next up. Rob Dillingham, the newest Chicago Bull.

Oh, it's an easy F. And I'm taxing him because of what the Minnesota Timberwols traded in order to get him. They traded a future pick for you. You know what that means? That means they're going to give him a lot of rope. That means they want him and need him to be good. And they still give up after a year. That means you had to have been dreadful in the locker room.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're an F. It's a F all the way, especially because they needed a point guard. Like, they literally wanted to get somebody that can help in the back court. he just hasn't translated at all. Like that's just like F all the way through

to the point where I don't even know if it doesn't work next to a bunch of other guards in Chicago, we're going to have real conversations on where he's going to be. And didn't they trade up or didn't they trade? Yeah. Yeah. They traded a 2031 first-on pick to get him. Yeah.

That's bad. Yeah. When you end the season in a different jersey than the one you started out with, that's an F. That's a second year player too? Exactly. That's crazy. And when you are the first year,

first person to prove that the Kentucky Guard factory does not, does not produce all hits. That is a problem. He's going to unfollow us on Instagram. Fire edits, though. Next up. Trying to save us. Modus and no, whatever. Modest, who's Ellis?

Made you come back on the way. B for Modis. I wanted it to be an egg. He hasn't been given enough opportunity, I think. But also you earn an opportunity. so yeah, B, he's on, I still believe in him, still hold stock, but hasn't been a second year leap that I was hoping for. Yeah.

He's going to plant some evidence in Billy Donovan's car this off season. I don't, I don't know for what crime, but he's going to get him out of there. All right, what's the funnest crime we can get him out of year for? Funnest? Like, tax evasion? That'd be pretty funny. I think that's the most real. Putting evidence of tax evasion in someone's car.

It's great. I'm actually much higher. He was a non-top-10 pick. He's actually exactly what Chicago needs. They needed to move away from that Pat Williams dreaded nonsense. Like, I actually think this is like a B plus and a eight minus. Like, of course, he's not like as great as a lot of other players. But for what Chicago needed, the energy, the athleticism, I really, I really like Buzellis.

I agree. But context. Remember when we pulled up your tweets about Franz Wagner and it was like, really glazed, you pull my tweets on modest but zealous it's probably equally as glaze so my hopes are very high I'm with you I just been preaching that he's going to be the best player in this class I think he has that type of ceiling

so waiting to see that level of glaze paid off but I agree he's gonna be really good still and he still could be like the best player out of this draft class it's gonna take some time though yeah clearly didn't happen right away which is fine it might not take that much time with this draft class

but yeah exactly he makes all in the year you all pay also jewel if he framed Billy Dahlia as a dual thief Still the Mona Lisa Billy Dahlvin's

Bingo all around Chicago stealing diamonds Stealing diamonds Stealing diamonds There's Picasso's in the museum here he's stolen You got Billy Diamond and RICO Jerry McCain

Now you said in year two If he ends your season on a different jersey That's a bad thing I think you came up in the world Going to OKC Different circumstance completely I don't know

Darren Morris said I sold high Maybe it's the same circumstance He's been playing better He fucking tours what Miniscus in his rookie or something like that Yeah And then he was it his thumb In the offseason?

Yeah So hampered by injuries I still think he's gonna be very good Yeah I don't know how high the ceiling is Time will tell We need some more games played Before we can have a true definitive idea

But I still have stalking him He hasn't disappointed me Because I have context Of why he's injured And why he isn't playing so well but he also didn't get to do anything because of that. So see? Are we just grading the sophomore year or just like our outlook on them?

Sophomore year. How the sophomore year affects your outlook, I guess? Because he has had a bad sophomore year. Yeah. Yeah. But it's because of injuries. So I don't know how to how to. We hope we ding Zach Ety for it.

So I guess I got to ding Jeremy. Yeah, let's give him a C. Yeah, I go. I go C plus. I like the song he made during also weekend. I go C plus. I go C plus two. Yeah.

Lowe, do you like the song he made him also? I don't remember the song. but I just I'll give it a C plus. I think, oh, he said if he run up on people in Philly is going to get sticky or something like instead of a bar like that. Yeah. He's the next time to play Philly. He's going to get sticky or something like that. Yeah.

C plus, C plus. Yeah, he's on the way back up. He's been playing well. Kloa where? F. Sorry, bro. I don't know about F. He's an F.

According to Eric Spulcher, he's an F. Fair. Beefing with your coach. Eric Spursier would give him a grade below F. I think when he gets his chances and he earns Eric Spulster's trust, he puts up motherfucking numbers, but there's that constant. When you're battling with your coach in your two, trying to prove that you work hard enough to deserve minutes,

that is a problem. I think he's good, though. So I'll go C minus. Yeah, that's fair. And you get dunked on by damn. It's a draft class full of C's. I know. I'm going to go B plus on Khalil where.

But if we're being honest with ourselves, he looks that good on a team that doesn't really have that much like passing and playmaking. And he clearly needs that to maximize him on the offensive side of the floor, clear upside defensively. Like, there's just not that many players who are seven feet tall that can run, jump and dunk the way that Khalil can. I want to see him in Indiana. And shoot.

Yeah, I just want to see him next to somebody else. Like, Norman Powell's been doing great, but I want to see him next to, like, a real passer and playmaker. Yeah. And I want to see him with the coach that gives him leeway to make mistakes and develop. But I also trust Eric Spoltra, so I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe he's a fuck him. Open beef in the media is hard to get over.

Yeah, like, I feel like it's not nothing. like Eric Spolcher would like to have a good player too So I think like I don't think it's nothing I guess Plus he's also like it's not like Spoltsha has a history of this He's literally only done it to where We'll see though I still have faith Dalton Connect F what F F he'd get traded and they had to take you back

I've seen every game he's played of his career I cannot remember last time he made a play Where I said good job Dalton I was there for the Utah game last season Where he dropped like 37 I think that was his last good game I literally cannot remember a single moment this season where I said I'm glad Dalton Connect is on the court.

F. F. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's the F. All the talk last year about like this is why you draft older prospects because they can step in and play well.

That's all gone now. Now you point to connect in this and it's like this is why you don't draft older prospects. He's single-hands like. Keep these geriatric prospects away from me. 24-year-old college basketball players around the country hate Dalton Connect. They just ruined the money for him. He's like, well, Campbell ruining it for little armed guys. Dolcaneg is ruining it for old people.

Exactly. He's like R.H. Second year player. That's great. That's so tough, man. That's tough. Kishon George. A.

Honestly. Still the draft. Yeah, right. He's a top three player in the draft class right now, right? I'd say so. I think he's probably... Might be second after Castle. I think I probably would say he's number two.

I might as say he might be the second best so far. Yeah. As soon as next year, like, he could be the second best so far. Yeah. the best player out of this draft class. That would not surprise anyone at all. Okay. Yeah. That was not surprising. I got it. I got his A plus as well. Yeah. He was like a 20 second or something like that. Yeah. He was like a late first rounder. He looks really, really good when he, when he's like having other pieces around him, AD and Trey next year really get him back on the

defensive side of the floor impacting. Like, yeah, this is like a clear A plus. Yep. Next one. A.J. Mitchell, second round gem. A plus plus. A plus, plus. Yeah, AJ Mitchell, amazing. I think he's actually the steel of the draft, second round, and he's had moments this year where he looks like a legitimate starting caliber player.

Like, he can actually contribute in the starting five of a team. Is he a third best player in this draft class? This year, this year's been impressive. I can't lie. He's always hurt. He's always hurt, which sucks. But if they get to a playoff setting

and they have some games to get their rhythm going, and they can play him, Shea and J-Dub altogether, I think it's going to fix so many of their offensive issues. Yes. If they can get the best version of all them together. Third best? It's going to be tough because modest is there.

He's better than modest right now. Right now. How does he? I assume he played multiple years of college, right? AJ, he's 23. He's 24, though, going. Yeah, so he should be better than modest right now. Okay.

I like AJ Mitchell. You know what? AJ, you get the stamp. Third best player in the job class. For now. For now. know he's older, so it makes sense. For the next 10 years.

No, Brani? He's still lighting up the Julie, though. He's still lighting up that Julie. Yeah, y'all don't want the clips, man. Y'all don't want the clips, man. Come on. Brody hate is so, like, it's all so just low-hanging fruit that I'm like, I don't even know what jokes to make besides up, LeBron's son.

His reaction was crazy. I thought something actually happened. See what's not breaking news on? Shobbs bomb. LeBron retired. Next thing we are going to do, we pulled this dock back up because I forgot the third clip we have right now.

Let's do it. Oh, this is a funny one. We are going to react to the funniest NBA player tweets. We are going to see things ever tweeted exclusively by players themselves from their official accounts. I don't think there's any burners in here, but I'm not quite sure.

Beesles put it together. And we have to talk about how funny these all are. He already set up. There's anything wrong, so I'm B-Soles. I'm really. All right. I said burners. I didn't say she.

A shady joke. First up, this is from six rings of steel putting up the stat line of Yusuf Nerkich on one night where he had 16, 8 and 10, the most hilarious stat line of all season. And then Yusuf Nerkish quote retweets saying, when the LinkedIn bio says entrepreneur, low bank account says the likes. Yo, Yusuf is an idiot, man. bro was just bigging him up he was like yeah bro like what an insane game what a performance no one ever hypes him up he's so defensive because all he gets is slanted the one guy the blue checks has good job you sir he's like fuck you nerd yo matt fucks with you bro you're idiots

now no one's ever gonna go ahead and bigger your performances i can't i feel like i compliment him he's and they call me a dweeb exactly he tries to put the this you And he put it. Yeah, that's what I think, responded to somebody with a picture of themselves. Yeah. So like. And it's the picture that he literally is using. It's not like he had to go grab and embarrass me.

It's a picture that we all see of him. And it's also like, this is in a Lake Show Yo situation. He just looks normal. Yeah, he's just a normal human being, bro. Just a white dude. That's bad. It's like saying Lake Showyo is another normal human. You know, if you was going to say that, I want to put it on this fucking thing,

bro. I ask you if I should put it on He goes, nah, that's too mean He's still going to bring it up Come on God Oh my God My God

He's at the time It's sometimes Stop speaks to you That's insane Shout out D-Book man Dennis Smith Jr says Everybody has God-given talents

Mine just so happens To be slaying This wood in my pants Nah What time did he tweet this at? 11 p.m. Oh, you're dead. 2012.

2012. I mean, if that's your talent, you might be in a wrong profession, my brother. I mean, it didn't really work out for him in the NBA. It sounds like you might be heading towards a rap profession then because it sounds like he has the opportunity.

Maybe he's going to see something through. This is nasty to say probably. Was he in the league at this point? No. No. Imagine a top prospect talking about, man, I really sling wood, though. It's a lot of things I do good, but slinging that wood, man.

I'm talking to hear that one. He's like, yeah, like, I can re-pick and roll, but there's wood? That's really me. That's really me. I can really jump out the gym in a crazy first step, but that wood, though, man. I was about to say this is Uber athletic Dennis Smith Jr. His best talent is giving wood. He said a combine talking to Darry

He's asking him about his weak side pick and roll It's about his three point rate And he's like I got something else man Not gonna lie Let's shift the topic a little bit This was Shed Durr was saying Did you have any questions for us

That's what Shudor Yeah we offer this guy He thinks way too high of himself Terry Roseier Wait wait wait wait He was a 2017 draft class right That means he was like 18 or 19, 2017. He was 13 years old saying this.

Oh, yeah. He had puberty yet. It's a different problem. Thank you for the observation. Yeah, he has, yes. We have to go to the next week. But thank you for pointing that out. You know what it's crazy?

I was thinking about what job class he was in. I was like, all right, 2012. I was to be around there. I was thinking he was like a 17-year-old saying. This is a kid. saying this vulgar child all right

terrose says Osama should have I got to reset a sentence it already sounded crazy Osama should a hoop instead of trying to kill people because he's tall as him

iconic classic 10 out of 10 sweet I'm like jealous that I've never said something that's funny in my life yeah I'll never reach his peaks is he the first one started that like the whole

get a random person in history yeah okay cool I think so I think that's a tough that's a tough tweet that's a 10 out of 10 tweet I can't oh you're the first one you're the first one yeah that's tough how old was Terry Rosier in this they are you know

he's 13 too I'm gonna let you know right now you're not you're not saying this when you would be like 16 yeah he's like 16 okay you're not saying this when you're in the league man what is he 30 now Yeah, he's 31 right now. Yeah, he's 16.

Okay. All right. This is Blake Griffin. Don't agree with the furniture layout, but I'm not an interior designer. This is the DeAndre Jordan. You had to be there. Yeah. Iconic.

What year was this? 17. 2015. 2015? Where were you when an NBA player was kidnapped by his boss? Man. I can't imagine that happening. Like, to just people with like regular jobs.

I'm trying to leave my office job and they come to my house. was locked the doors. I'm going to sign this contract. Also, I thought Mark Cuban, I'd be so pissed off knowing like this is how I lost DeAndre Jordan. I mean, would you really be pissed off at that point in time?

It's like, okay. At that point in time, yeah, but it's kind of like a it's like a best, like thank God for them doors. If I'm going to lose Jared Jordan and his whole debacle, I'm kind of happy it's this way. Yeah. At some point, game recognized game, this is hilarious.

If it was just he changed his mind, it's like, oh, that sucks. You fuck me over. This is just comical. They clearly they wanted it bad. They wanted it more than that. This is so over the top of like, what are we even doing? He wanted it bad, and I wasn't at the honor Jordan's house, so who can I say?

That frail ass chair, man. Iconic. I just, this is from the Kevin Durant space with our friend Legend of Winning. I just think how y'all look at the game is whack as fuck. Lo, I agree. You know why that's so nasty, bro? Because I, man, can I say what I? Can I say it?

Explain yourself. Go ahead. The reason why I'm so upset at this quote in that moment is because I knew about the DMs. I knew about the chats. I knew about Ganey's burner. So when he was talking about how fans talk about the game, I knew he was talking very similar to other people, allegedly. So it's like, bro, you can't sit here and say that. And then I know for a fact how you run across to the chats and you talk crazy just like everybody else on the timeline.

You know he's in his DMs calling Steve Nash Mussolini? Yeah. Like I know he's talking crazy. Not even the things I've heard him say about Janice and Yokic and Luca is finally starting to come out now. But I've been known about Katie's feeling about certain players. Let me ask you. How do you feel about just that interaction as a whole? Like how that went?

Behind the scenes, it actually opened up a lot of things for me. But what did you mean? Katie changes fucking laugh. I mean, to be honest with you, because I've either indirectly like kind of talk to Katie multiple times after that right there. And then also more importantly, I do I do believe like more people start taking me serious because it's like, oh, wow. Like if you actually hear the space in totality, people actually like, oh, no, I kind of respect what he's saying because he's kind of standing on 10 toes. But then like when people take it out of context, it just looks like I'm just sitting there saying, oh, I agree. It's bad, bro, it's bad.

The funniest part of the whole thing, I'm trying to recollect it because I haven't thought about it, obviously, like you have. The whole point where you started off with, talking about his lack of rim pressure, making him less viable an offensive player compared to some of the other top two, three, four players in a role today. It was clearly correct. That was just, like, just objectively not debatable.

He takes less shots at the rim now. That's being the starting point that got you flame for being this dork that cares about how many shots come with the rim. It's such an undeniable fact that they're like, isn't even that nerdy. It's just like a basic observation. Yeah, you whack as fuck. Yeah.

And it was even worse. He proceeded, because I think after that, like, they he proceeded to just never get out the first round. So it was like, that's tough. Like, and he got, and he never got the first round because of the thing that I kept saying. It's like, bro, they don't, they don't respect you enough as an attacker. They're going to be fine what you taking middies.

And he was just like, no, man. It was a bunch of stuff, bro. It's bad. It was bad. His whole argument that space was just like, are you good or not? I remember that because I watched it recently for it for this. it's just like, the only thing that matters is, are you good or not? And I don't know if like, I can't remember what I was saying, but I'm pretty sure I was just so dismissed.

I was like, bro, you got it, KD. I know that's not how you think. I know you specifically believe that you are better than a bunch of other players. I know you think that because I've seen it. Especially with how the DMs came out now. Yeah, I know how you actually talk and you think. So I know that's not how you talk. But I just said, all right, fine, KD.

If that's what you're trying to get off right now, cool. You got it, bro. Nice. cares. What's next? This is CJ McCollum. Someone on Twitter said, when a playoff game,

then talk. CJ goes, I'm trying, Jennifer. Classic. Another iconic one. Ted at 10. You got respect honesty.

This was on a run because he had this tweet. And then in the off season, he had like the Instagram live with him and Dame. And they were going back and forth. And then like KD had joined. He was like,

man, y'all cheated. Like, CJ McCullum had, he had a small prime on social media. before everybody started to hate him. I'm going to say then he ruined it. Yeah.

Then he became the NBA PA guy who made the worst. Seconding for me. Collect a bargaining deal and now he's a punchline. Tough, tough, tough, tough. Tough. So can you get another job? You became important at work. Kevin Durant.

Scarlett, Joe Hanson, I will drink your bath water. If he said this on the timeline, if he had burners back then, I can't imagine what he was saying. And he said this at 645 PM, brother. Like, like, warmers is in 20 minutes.

What's the thing? It was like well within the league too. This is 21. Yeah. Yeah. And just like we said with the burners, nobody's ever accused him of being wrong. It's like three years before his MVP.

Nobody's ever used him and not being real. He is genuine. He's down to the point. He'll be honest. All right. 11, Scarlett? Okay. It seems similar to was always shades of maybe

this is just who KD is as a person, man. Like, you just go on the timeline being just freaked out nasty. You got it, bro. You got it, you got it. Probably a whole genre of DMs you haven't seen yet. this is on the timeline that's what was saying what was saying

when you're confiding in the trusted person he's all crazy oh no we did see one we saw one they're doubting my body counts wait wait what what of the DM someone said remember they were calling him holest last summer oh yeah they're like no they're playing with my body count okay you said bro he talks like he's 14 he does All right, next up, Russell Westbrook just tweeting out Russell Westbrook. That's hard.

Nice. Tough. That's hard. I do love like back in the day tweets when people didn't understand like what Twitter was. So they just getting anything off where they're making mistakes like this and he just typing stuff out. But shout out to Russ, bro. I don't know what this means, but I don't think you thought what it was supposed to mean. He might have been, now that I'm thinking about it, he might have been searching.

Searching his name. Yeah. Searching his name. all right man he was he was what like in 2214 he must have been 24 years old but people didn't know what twitter was back then though

like people knew but like it wasn't like a thing that people true you know what I'm saying like it just wasn't you know what he might done back then you could tweet from your phone to text messages oh yeah he just typed in it oh you could yeah yeah you can send tweets to a certain number you just type it in just to try it

damn well how you know that Russell Westbrook hey I was I've been on Twitter since I was 14 years old seeing horrors beyond my comprehension Oh, my God. Eric Bledsoe tweets out. I don't want to be here. I've never stopped quoting this.

I say, you know, this is legendary tweet. It's iconic as hell, bro. Anytime anybody is requesting a trade, I don't want to be here. That was top of the season, too. If it just started. Yeah. I remember there was some level of expectation on the Phoenix Sun Tsuos. This is one of the first times where, like, I think this may have been, like, the first

time where a player went on Twitter and, like, suggested that he doesn't want to be there anymore. Well, remember, he was like, Lysal. just have the nail salon and like i wasn't trying to be over there so it was just like my general state of where i physically was and they said yeah yeah buddy you're traded next week yeah he's a buck all right it worked though he came up in the world better team these are jr smith twitter dms nice read them verbatim um i'm going to your game tonight jr smith says dope gets a smiley face response he goes oh really girl goes oh really what Oh, yeah.

Jeremy Smith, you try to get the bite? Hey, man, it'd be straight to it, man. We just get straight to it, you know? We ain't really going back and forth. In three to four messages, we already talking about getting piped out, man. So there it is, man. And this is straightforward. Exactly.

This is the confidence that made J.R. Smith, the player that he was. You know what, you are correct. I know. Ironically. This is 2013, J.R. Unirony. That's what I'm Big J.R. Smith, you're right.

Yes. J.R. is J.R. in all facets. He's going to pull up from 30. He's going to pull up from the logo in any single

aspect of his life. Did he win, um, did he win six men of the year this year? I think so. Or he might have been coming off the six man a year. Yeah,

it was around that time. He got two emojis. He got a little bit of space off of the pick roll. He said, I'm pulling this. I'm taking this. A little bit of daylight.

A little bit of daylight. A little bit of daylight. Oh, yeah. No, this is in the middle of the six men of the year. This is Pete, New York. Pete, Nicky, you definitely. Yeah. Yeah.

He was definitely feeling it. Yeah, he definitely was. Shut here. I saw this on your Twitter. Craziest picture I've seen all year. This is pre-AI, by the way. Hey, yo, the baldies, man. Shout out.

We should have put this version of jaw on our team. We should have put this version of jaw on our team. Yeah, no, I can't remember where it was, but I just saw, like, you know, people would be trolling and they just say, oh, let's, like, show a bunch of pictures of somebody wearing a body. And I saw that picture. I was like, bro, that's a knock. From a distance, he looked like Chris Paul. I'm not going to lie. No, he doesn't look like Chris Paul.

He looked like Roger from American Dad almost. He really doesn't. It's overly big. I'm surprised that was it. Like, with everything that was going down, I'm surprised the Grizzlies were like, yeah, bro, like, you got to go ball. You got to lock it.

We need to have to have that. I think we talked about that. Yeah, they're going to send them to where major pain was from. Oh, yeah. They get a haircut. It's always the locksfall. All right, and that's the last one. All right, there we go.

That's the end of it. Next thing we're going to do. We're going to play a rapid fire game. real rapid fire responses. I'm going to name an NBA player. You tell me if they are a superstar. Okay. So where does that line fall between Superstar, All-Star, whatever it means to you?

Do they cross the threshold? Okay. And everybody healthy at their best right now, 2026. Okay. First name, Healthy Jason Tatum. Yes. Superstar. Yeah.

Proving that. Superstar. Okay. He didn't want to say it. Didn't really want to. I don't. Got to give to him? If we healthy, cool.

Okay. 2026, Jaylon Brown. All star. All star. Not a superstar. Not a superstar. Okay. Donovan Mitchell.

There's a line. He's right in between superstar. This is the superstar. Yeah. I'm going to say he is the line. Like, we're not. He's definitely not a superstar. He's like the best of the best all stars.

Okay. Just below it. Yeah, I guess so. Okay. Devin Booker in 2026. All-Star. All-Star. He lost it.

Was he at one point a superstar? No. I don't think he ever was. No. I don't think he ever was. Okay. Maybe. Chris Ballroom went healthy.

Knowing what we know about his playoff moments last year and the rising he does. The moments where he had superstar moments, but I still want to call him an all-star. Yeah, I'm, yeah, I'm gonna say, not a superstar. Superstars feel like you can be the viewed as like one of the best players in the world at any given moment. One of the best players in history as well. Not a superstar. I think he's all-star.

Anthony Edwards. Superstar. Superstar. Superstar for sure. Hands down. 2026, Kauai Leonard. Superstar. Fuck, man.

Weird conversation here. Superstar. He's playing at that level for sure for this past 30 games. Superstar. He's been looking like a top seven player at worst, bro. He's clicking on all selling cylinders, highly efficient. I'll say superstar. I'm taking like eight days a game superstar.

I got to say superstar because I said Tatum is a superstar. I think this version of Kauai is just as good as what Tatum was. Okay, 2026, Kevin Durant. Also. No. He lost it? Yeah, all-star. Not a superstar.

KD hasn't been a superstar in like five, six years now. Five years? Damn. Whoa. I mean, 2021, he was still a superstar. 20, 2021 is the last year. Okay. So, five years, exactly.

Yeah. Damn. That feels like a long time. He's just, Jake, he's not just, 22. I'll just, 23, I think he was still a superstar.

24, 25, 26. I think I understand. 21 is the last year for me. 21 is a last year. He was like, goat level. I think 22, 23, he could still. be considered a superstar. Okay.

All right. Jalen Brunson. All star. All star. Oh, you're not giving to him. Nick's bad. He's not going to give it to him. He's,

he's right on that. The defense is starting to put some ideas in his head. No, it's not that at all. Oh, it's the offense? Just a little bit slower. Yeah, not a superstar. It's not the offense, not the defense. What else going to be?

The personality? No, no. Jamlins has been slowing out recently, right? It's the last 17 games shooting 43% from the. field. Really? The decline is here. That don't mean nothing. All Donovan trying to do, he's just trying to, he's trying to

head your bed. He's like, no, I ain't got no superstars with my team. Nah, no, no, no. We got nothing over here. When is the first time exit, we don't have any superstars. We don't switch. What's going on? All right. All right. All right. So, okay, Kahneman's out of the battery. Is that a superstar this year? No. Ooh, I think I might have to give him the superstar

now. I'm going to have to get in the superstar. He's the worst superstar at the league if we're going to do that. He's Just cross special. Oh, then, all right, then Brunton is the Superstar. No. No.

Then, yes. We're going to agree that Kate's a superstar Brunson. Wait, who's better, Kate or Brunson? Brunson.

You was a little too fast with that one. Last year I was with you. This year, I think Kay's been better. I think, I think Brunson is better. And I think, I think Kate is on track

to being, like, overall, and like, whenever you do your ranking, whatever, like, to say that he's better.

But I do think that he has to solidify everything that he's done this year with a with a playoff run and and I think that Brunson's main value and where he really separates himself from a lot of people is in the playoffs with his shot making and just being one of the clutches people in the league I need to see that from Kate in the playoff run away from being a superstar I do agree with if you want if you need to see in the playoffs I understand because obviously you have with Jaylon Brunson yeah now we're going to do this again rapid fire with NBA team as

contenders you tell me are they a contender or not a contender First team Los Angeles Lakers No Not a contender Not a contender I be so sorry All right

All right You say nothing about the last one Now look I'm in this one now He's excited now Hey stink Celtics Contenders

Celtics Oh they're also not Contenders No Jason Tatum Pretenders No Jason Tatum Pretenders No with Jason Tatum

They're still Pretenders I need a percentage of Jason Tatum 75% there Jason Tatum Contenders Pretenders Come on man Stop

He doesn't believe in him Is Kada He doesn't believe in me as Kada He doesn't know about Jordan Walsh He doesn't know about he I love Jordan Walsh I just know about that left hand From somebody out there

In 26 Yeah In the playoffs Yeah Oh Jan and Nobi and McKale Will get that man nightmares Bro be serious All right New York Knicks

Pretenders Pretenders I love Jose Alvarado man Are they even pretenders They're just a team They're not pretending They're just a guy There's guys

They just dudes This is all the chips on the table By the way We go out there And we play hard every night We just have fun Kind of Play hard every night

I don't know Kind of Cleveland Cavaliers Some of us do Post James Harding Trade Pretenders Pretenders If Harder would have stayed healthy Fully

I wanted to say Yeah He would have 5 for 17 Instead of 5.18. Hardin's going to be all right. I wouldn't factor that. I think they're not contenders,

sadly. They are not contenders. Okay. San Antonio Spurs. Contenders. Contenders. Redenders. Denver Nuggets.

Contenders. Contenders. No matter what. Detroit Pistons. Out of East. Pretenders. Pretenders. If they are,

if the Celtics and the Pistons and the Knicks to you are pretenders, who is the contender out east? Everybody out east are fakers, bro. They're all pretending. You're nothing more about pretend. There's going to be somebody makes it out of the east because it's just the east

but they all pretenders, bro. There has to be the best fraud of the bunch. Yeah, that's it, bro. Okay, uh, OKCC Thunder. Contenders, obviously. Houston Rockets. Gritender. Pretender.

Pretender. Pretenders. Nix West. Damn. Don't, don't, don't do that. Damn. Don't do that. Damn.

It's through an accent. I can't wait to play on the playoffs, but I hope we'd be talking. What's getting sticky, man? Conversation. Yo, I want to pause at anything. Minnesota rules. I want to say contender, but Julius Randall got to get it together. Pretender as well.

I'm going to go pretenders. Okay. Yeah, they just can't get over the conference finals home right now. And so I'm going to go for tender. But if you're in the conference finals, then that means your contender. Does it? Yeah. You thought you thought your Hawks were going to?

You talking to the wrong, bro. Hell yes. Exactly. I did. Hell yes, I did. He thought Jeff Teigen and them was going to take you all. Oh, I'm not talking about. Okay.

That's too far. That's too far. Too far. I'm not talking about T. I mean, Tray. I'm a young name, Jeff Tegan then. What's the difference? Oh, oh, so you.

Man, I thought, I think that. I think that's a worse. That's a worse. It's a worst team, honestly. The 15 Hawks are way better. Listen, man. Listen, man. Like 15 Hawks.

Way. We would get washed defensively, but we don't have a single player. They don't have a single player who could guard like 2021, Trey. What? Wait, who are you talking about? Wait, what's the 15, 16 Hawks versus the 21 Hawks. Oh, oh.

Oh, you say they don't have a player for them to defend. Like, Trey's co-women. No. Trey's not going to dice him up to that degree. I'm throwing two on him on. Trey would murder Teague. He would kill Tabo Cepalosa. What?

Tomaheilosia would kill him. I ain't going to lie. I ain't going to lie. I didn't. They're going to be a lot. Tabor would make Trey work. Tabor would make T'Avord and Millsap are behind him. They're fine.

Also, it's not like Trey was like killing people in the playoffs that year. In 2021, he was. He had like one. round. He got hurt. He did get hurt. That's the problem. He didn't all have one good round. That's a lie. He fucking embarrassed the New York Knicks. He went ahead and he stomped out Philly, destroyed that team as well. And then he went six games with Milwaukee. You're talking about this like he was 29 to Kaua. He stopped at team. That is my 29th. He shot 39% from the field against the Sixers.

So? He just took out. That year, that year, 29, 29 points, nine, nine and a half. half assist on 41% from the field and 31% from 3%. That's in the playoffs? Yeah, that's in the playoffs. He shot a lot. I'll tell you that. Like the first round against the Knicks,

I'll give you that. He shot it on. I'll tell you that. Just enough. Just enough. Last thing we're going to do, low, me and you are going to be tasked with defend the Lakers, I think. Hell not. We're going to do the thing where I can name two NBA teams

better than the Los Angeles Lakers right now. How many can y'all get to? Oh, wow. You can only name two. You gotta start low. You know, easily I could name six.

I can name six. Y'all dragging me. Y'all dragging it. I can name 10. I can name 10. I ain't going to lie. Cap. Name it 10 right now.

Can you do 11? I can't do 11. I want to see Donovan's limit. I might go 15. I don't know. I named 15. No, you can't go 15. No, you're true.

I said, Mike. I said Mike. Wait, can you do 11, Mo? Can you do 11? I say I do 11. I can do 11. Don't do 12. Yeah, that's right. You got 12.

You got 12. Y'all just, I have to look at the standings. Yeah. Look at the standings. Yeah. I will go. All right. OK, C. San Antonio. Okay. Denver. Minnesota. Detroit, Boston, Cleveland.

Oh, hold on. Slow on. Slow down. I slow down. I don't know if you believe so of you, man. I'm fine. I'm fine up until right now. But he's going to get real. How many of I said so far?

One, two, three, four, five, six, seven. I said eight. Seven. Seven. Seven. Seven. You said seven. Seven so far. Okay. Right now in a series, I'm taking Houston.

That's tough. I don't know. I feel like it's a toss-up. If you think, stylistically, that big strong team is going to be able to athletic them, I guess. Quality-wise, I don't think they're any different. I'm going to take Houston. Okay. Your list, your world. Go ahead.

I'm going to take Houston. I'm taking Philly. I'm taking Philly. Nobody on the planet believes in Joella would be less than 9. You don't. If they play today. Joel and B played the last game So he's healthy right now

If they play two day I'm taking Philly Paul George is suspended Today Paul George is suspended today Today If they have Maxie And they have him beat

I'm taking Philly two days Luca can't keep up That's true he would be Yeah Yeah But you can you already You already know The Sixers play close games

All the time Luca's gonna freeze up Like he did last Like he did two days Come on Okay that's But that's only nine teams. You got it.

There's only nine teams, though. I'm going to throw your bone. You got the Knicks? Yes, I'm taking the Knicks. Ah, fuck out of you. I'm taking the Knicks. Luca would do unimaginable horrors to Carlisthiantheads drop coverage. Austin Reeves would foul him four times in a row in the first quarter.

But that's 10. I still need, you say you can get to over 10. I need to hear this. Two day right now? Do it at they're playing? Say it. I dare you. I dare you.

I dare. I'm going to go get my white boy. Yep. Down there in North Carolina. Yeah. I'm going to get the Charlotte Hornets. Yeah. I'm going to get Connoll.

We're just talking now. We're just now. We're just talking. You got it. First of all, listen, arrested Connipal because he was staying at Bill Simmons' house. He's going and he's beating the Lakers down. How do we feel about, I mean, yes, con is arrested. Lamello has a lot in his mind.

But Lamello is. Insurance claims to put in. He's going, he's going back home. He's going back home. He's going to have his home. time drive. Is that good one? Is that good for? Yes. Absolutely. Lamello off a del Taco? There's no way. We're making content out of the Charlotte Hornets keeping up with the waitians, bro. We got to be serious, bro. And we're not serious, bro. You got, no,

you got, I'm only giving you 10. 10's my living. 10's by my living. Okay. Do you say the calves? Yeah, he said the calves, yeah. Yeah, I think I did. I think I said the caps. 10, but even some of them are dragging it. Many of them. Several of them. I'm surprised. You are the Raptors. That's what I thought he was about to say. Yeah. I don't trust it. Oh, but you're conquering the playoffs where the line is fine.

Yeah, I trust. If the Hornets can get and make sure that they are in the playing, I trust them to make a deeper run than Toronto. But against the Lakers, do you think they can be that? You don't believe it. If even one of them were playing the Lakers, obviously, they're not going to play them unless it's the finals. And if the Hornets make the finals, they're winning it.

If they get all the way down there, I will bet anything. If the Hornets are in the finals, I will bet my life on the Hornets to win the finals. Yeah, that got to be the hottest stretch of shooting from a mellow ball career. I know, you might be a dead man. Everything has to play. If the Lakers make the finals, Lucas Jordan. Austin Reeves is Mono. and DeAndre Aiden is David Robinson

And cock andipal is LeBron But that means that's the end of the show If you're still here, I want you to comment Who would win in the finals? The Hornets are the Lakers And would DeAndre Aid B. Shack? Nasty conference

And we'll see y'all next week.