The Deep 3 Podcast - Every NBA Trade That NEEDS To Happen This Year | Ep. 72

Episode Date: January 19, 2024

All of the NBA trades we want to see at the NBA trade deadline. #nba Check out the TD3 merch: https://the-deep-3-shop.fourthwall.com/ Join the TD3 discord!: https://discord.gg/RUkjpMPp7E Listen on Spotify!: https://open.spotify.com/show/3elbbqVumwqz8wlIdknsLW Listen on Apple Podcasts!: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-deep-3-podcast/id1657940794 Follow us on TikTok!: https://www.tiktok.com/@thedeepthree Follow us on Instagram!: https://www.instagram.com/thedeep3podcast/ Isaac's twitter: https://twitter.com/byisaacg Muhamed's twitter: https://twitter.com/Mojo99_ Donnavan's twitter: https://twitter.com/Dsmoot3D 0:00- Intro 2:58- Siakam traded to Pacers 26:50- Dejounte Murray 36:45- Andrew Wiggins 44:50- Malcolm Brogdon & Jerami Grant 53:33- Zach LaVine 1:05:36- Tyus Jones 1:09:27- Bruce Brown 1:13:40- Terry Rozier 1:19:10- Kelly Olynk 1:22:02- TikTok Time Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

You know, there's been a lot of unlikely things that have happened over the years in the NBA. We've seen the greatest regular season team of all time, blow a 3-1 lead. We've seen the best player in the modern NBA history leave his hometown team. But none of that, surprisingly more. Then Masai Ujuri finally trading Pascal Siakum after he finally traded OG Anobi. We've been begging for years for this team to get blown the hell up. And y'all, he finally did it. It's finally over.

I am so happy. These guys were hanging on by a thread. There's a dude on TikTok, his name is Juice. He's been trying for 162 days to get his hairline back in. It's not working. That's the equivalent of Maasai Ujiri holding on to this core and trying to keep a championship roster together. I'm happy it's done. It is a new era.

It's a new day in Toronto. Finally, bro. We were fucking held captive by this team. It was like an obligation to talk about it. It was horrible. Finally, we can see a new team flourish under Scotty Barnes' realm. Yeah, man. As soon as the trade happened, I heard my neighbor fall down to her knee. She's an 86 year old lady, sweet Dominican lady. She fell down to her. And he's saying, yes. And I'm like, oh my God, what's wrong? And she was like, look. And she showed me the news. And I'm like, damn, we saw this trade in the works basically when we were streaming on Tuesday, 8 p.m. tuning every Monday, by the way. And we were like, damn, what can this trade package potentially look like? And we were all thinking that this. trade would involve some young player, whether it be Jarrett Walker, Bennett Mathyrne,

or Andrew Nemhard, but they walked away without having to give up any one of those young dudes. And my question to y'all is like, how do y'all feel about this trade? Wait, question, real quick. Question to your question. You had this whole conversation with the 86-year-old Dominican lady? Is this what happened? She's a casual. She wasn't into the weeds, bro. She was like, oh my God, Bruce Brown. The rap is so bad. She don't know what the fuck. she talking about. She's, oh my God, what are the ramifications for the Patriots help defense on the interior? She was freaking out. Yeah, like most said, we saw this trade, the news initially break that it was about to happen soon by Shams. Happened while we were live

streaming. So like you said, every Monday, 8 p.m. Eastern, check it out. You can watch the VOD right now. This past week, we did a live watch along to Joellen B. v. Yolkich, and know that's at the same time it happened. It was great. And also, before we get to answering most questions, If you're watching on YouTube, do us a favor, drop a like and subscribe. If you're an audio platform, five stars, review, all that. First thing first, before we get to the topic of the episode, as you guys see, we're going to talk about everything we expect to happen at the trade deadline or more like we want to happen.

We got to talk about this trade in depth. The cranium is crazy. Oh, my God. I mean, I don't know what to say. Pray on Eaters, rejoice. So, Nikol has his tweet pulled up that says, Maasai turned O.G. Nandobi and Pascal Seacom into Emmanuel Quickly, R.J. Barrett,

Bruce Brown, Jordan Noora, Kira Lewis, three first-round picks and one second round pick. How do you guys feel about the totality these two moves put together? Masay Ujiri beat the washed allegations, right? For years. Okay, you like it. Yeah, I think he, the only person who would be disappointed

in this trade is 2020, Masayu-Jiri, because he was asking for four-fourth, for four first-round picks for everybody, and obviously, like, that didn't happen. But if you actually had a realistic sense of what trades look like in the NBA, I think this is a very good haul. You have a point guard who can play very well

next to Scotty Barnes. RJ Barrett looks absolutely rejuvenized now that he's playing back at home. They're probably going to flip Bruce Brown and get even more assets. Got some young players, first-round picks. This is a perfect way to start a rebuild or a retool, whatever you want to call it.

But Maasai did a fantastic job, in my opinion. on these on these trades yeah yeah so totality i see this and i'm like bro you you got it you could have gone a hall similar to this if you would have traded for only pasca traded away only pascal if you did that shit last year and when i see this i'm like okay at least he did something and he tried his best to maximize what he did but overall if i'm a ratiff fan i don't feel like the absolutely best because if you look at this entire catalog of options and assets that they got, this upcoming draft is not insanely weak,

but it's not looking very impressive whatsoever. You have three first round picks that really don't move the needle. And you have, I personally will say one, but I guess I have to pay respects to RJ Bears since he's been genuinely hooping two players who you might foresee yourself, like really involving them alongside Scotty Barnes

and them, boys. So it's like, I don't feel too good about this trade, but I am content, is what I would say. Yeah, I mean, we all know that he should have been to this. They should have been blown up a year ago, maybe two years ago. They should have traded Fred Van Vlit and I let him walk for nothing. Like, that's like, that's the obvious part, right? Like, it wasn't handled well.

But as far as what he was actually able to do this year, you know, better late than never, it's all right. I think it's kind of surprising that he got three first-on picks for Pascal Seaccombe for a guy who has four months left on his, contract before the season ends and he goes into unrestricted free agency. So I think the kind of lead up to that was, you know, lead up to the deal, the talks where maybe they can get a first and maybe two first if they're lucky and expiring contracts. So even though the first they got aren't like premier first on picks, it's not like from a great tanking team that's going to net them

like a top tier lottery pick or anything, you know, assets or assets, you got to accumulate them, have as many bites as apples as you can. You can flip them later, you know, late first on picks turn to Desmond Baines all the time. So not terrible. When you think, you're about what the position they were in, but you just can't help but think like they could have been in a much better position if he didn't sit on his hands for so long. That's true, but also at the same time,

I feel like last year, everybody still had like Rudy Gobert brain and everybody was like, hey, Rudy Gobert got four first round picks. So like if I'm trading Pascal Siakum, I need seven first round picks. Like that's, you know, that's what I need. And so Maasai probably thought,

okay, I can go and get this massive massive haul. But everybody came to Everybody had the same thought Where it was if you're trading somebody away You think that you're supposed to get this massive haul Because well that's what Gobert went for But then everybody else is like Yo be for real

That was a mistake on the Tim Wolves part I'm not giving you that just for anybody Like that was an outlier So it's probably this back and forth in the league So now that we're a year removed from it Everybody can be reasonable at this point And so this is probably What everybody is worth you know

And especially for the Raptors, like, if you're not going to tear everything down, you got some good players back. And that's what I think, I think I'm a little bit higher on this trade than you guys are just for that reason. No, I'm high on it too. I agree. It's the best you can do. It's realistic value for, like I said, he's expiring. So like, this is like a rental for the Pacers. I'll be, you know, but there's been reports that they were very confident they can sign him and extend them this summer.

So that makes it make more sense. But for most teams in the league that don't have that confidence, it would be like a heavy rental for half a season. Given that context, I like it too. like this is a lot for that circumstance that you're in yeah that is true and if you were and if any team was to give up all these first round picks this is the NBA draft to do so I've seen we're in January right now and I've seen like five potential number one overall picks nobody has no idea what this draft is really capable of and what that being said these picks in my mind are just like from the Indiana Pacer standpoint they are like throwaways yeah it's

the Pacers pick this year, the Nuggets picked this year, and a Pacers pick from 2026. So that 2026 pick is the best one. You know, you have to imagine they're still going to be a good team. Tyrese Hallibur is young, so it's not going to be like a great pick. But, you know, it's a lottery ticket. You never know what could happen that year. I think, you know, the Raptors did Raptors things, right? They finally traded it, blew everybody up, got the retooled beginning. I think it's far more interesting in talking about the Pacers. Because they, we talked about as Pascal Seaccom trades for a while. And I think the. Pacers and one of the teams we talked about for a long time, they were like, I need to see

this happen. I need to see Tyrese Halliburton have a legit running mate co-star. And they did it. They got the guy, like we, I think Meena Mo both said for months that we want this specific trade to happen. They decided to commit to Tyrese and get him a co-star. Like, it's exactly what you wanted to see. Yeah. And for a team like Indiana, this is much needed and this is the only way that they are able to get stars on that roster. Like, historically, Indiana, I believe they're one of the lone teams in the NBA that's never gotten a first round pick our number one overall draft pick ever and on top of that they're cursed with being in the state of Indiana sadly and so no one ever will go there you don't sign free agents the last like

big time free agent that they signed at the time was like david west he was a good player but we all know like david west is no game changers not not game changer but he's no all time player at all. So for them doing this shows me that they are looking to be a serious organization who have serious hopes and aspirations to eventually contend for a title. And this is just a step in the right direction. Yeah, man. I don't know. I really, I really like this trade. I'm happy that they did it. I think for this year in particular, like it says something about how they feel about this team, this core, this version of Tyrese, because with Tyrese being hurt, there is a massive opportunity for the Pacers to have slipped.

And they haven't necessarily done that. They've, you know, they've maintained. They're still in that race to even get up to the three seed. You put Pascal in this team. And Isaac has talked about this for a while. Pascal is one of those guys where the situation has been so bad in Toronto. Like, he's probably going to come out in Indiana. And everyone's going to be like, oh, my God.

I can't believe that he's here, you know, like he's going to look 100% rejuvenated in in an organization and on a team that doesn't hate his guts. And we saw this massively with Russell Westbrook where he just literally changed locker rooms. It's a big difference when the people in your locker room don't hate you. And when you feel good showing up to work every day. And so for Pascal, this is going to be like a massive, massive thing. I think he might be the most underrated player in the league right now. He's up there. Like, I tweeted when this happened that they did this trade and the patient's got a top 30-ish guy.

A couple people in their replies were like, 30 is a real generous. What are you talking about? And I was like, no, you guys don't understand. His team made the concert effort this year to deprioritize him to prioritize Scottie Barnes. Because they knew long term, Scotty Barnes is our guy. And as far as last off season, there was rumors and rumbling that they're going to trade him. And there's a report that Pascal Siakum found out about that and was very disheartened to hear that. You know, he has a lot of history with this team.

is one of the best NBA development stories of all time with that organization. So the fact that, like Donovan said, deprioritized to the team, you're clearly not the guy of the future. There's that one side of it, the personnel side, that he's going to go to a place that he feels wanted, that empowers him. But even outside of that, he's playing with the guy in Tyrese Halliburton, the perfect pick and roll part you could want for Siakum as a big man. Seaccom also runs a lot of pick and rolls with a ball in his hands.

Miles Turner, picking pop big, pick and roll big, another perfect guy to put next to him. He's going to have all the space in the world to attack the rim, do his high post game, attack mismatches, play off of Tyrese, play with the ball in his hands as a primary creator whenever Tyrese is on the bench. Like for every way you can think about in this type of offensive environment, he's going to thrive so much more than he did playing with the Raptors on a team that had four players just like them that all try to do the same thing, stand in the same places. It's just going from the worst place there's possible for your production to probably the best place. Yeah. The Raptors had a bunch of Pascal Siakums in training guys like precious to children. like that.

Just like maybe one day, if you're good enough, you can be like the guy that we already have right there. Literally, I never thought about that. They tried to make four of him. That's crazy.

They developed one long, rangy, unskilled big man to being incredible with the ball in his hands and we're like, I'm gonna give you one more. None of them paned out. Facts.

He got too more for you. I was literally right. I'm so glad he's freed. Now, it is funny that Obi-Toppan went from being in jail behind Julius Randall to now being in jail behind Pascal Seaccom? Like, yeah, man, he has to go overseas.

He has to go overseas, man. Because you're not getting run. You're not getting run in the NBA. Maybe you could go to like Sacramento. They run up and down really fast. You just need to go to teams who have track meets at this point. He just hasn't had time, has it had the space to properly develop his game. And I feel bad for him.

So like, O.B., hang in there. Hang in there, my guy. To be fair, to be fair, he was gifted the starting spot coming into the season and didn't do jack shit with it. So he hasn't had a particularly great season. So he had the chance to earn the job and just didn't. So I'm not going to be like too boo-hoo for him because, you know, play better. Yeah, I mean, we would.

Place the defense. Yeah. No, man, you're hating. We went to speak OB-O-B-TOP, and he gave us like 11, 12 points a game, which is like when I roughly projected for him, but the defense is like a huge issue. And what I'm even like more excited about, of course, like, Siakami immediately adds defense and that like helps like guys like Miles Turner who's I would say his reputation hasn't been as hasn't met up to expectation at all.

But that's because a whole lot of things, schematics and all the other stuff with the with the Indiana Pacers. But one of the biggest things where I'm like, wow, this is going to help them stay in games a lot longer is what you said earlier, Isaac. Like when Tyrese Halleburn goes to the bench, they're usually always dead in water. They always lose those minutes, even though they have like one of the better backup guards in the NBA and Drew Nemhard. Yeah. There's only so much this, that limited, offense, that limited guard can do on the offensive end and just having someone like Pascal Seacum who can create. And just about every way imaginable on the basketball court, whether it be operating the pick and roll, being the role man, starting transition fast, fast breaks and all that.

He can literally do it all. And so having him will be the biggest, will be, they'll see the biggest, like, uptick whenever Tyrese is, whenever Tyrese is on the bench. Yeah. And even like, they're already, like, they still have the number one offense in the league right now. And they're like, obviously one of the greatest offenses of all time by offensive rating,

which, you know, take with a grain of salt. But I think, like, the best part about it offensively is, like, think back to the in-season tournament game. The Lakers did a great job shutting down Tyrese Halliburton. And the reason that was there to be so successful is because all the guys around him don't have that release valve creation ability whenever you're doubling Tyrese and forcing him to pass the ball up

you need somebody else that can really create and punish you for doing that and there's, you know, that Pascal Seyakum is perfect for that. That's his exact skill set on the short role being able to like speed a screen setter and make something happen when he's attacking three on four.

It gives them versatility. They didn't need offensive help in terms of like, you know, they're standing in the offensive rating category. But if you're projecting to a playoff setting, Benedict Mathrin hasn't developed yet. He's still young. Jaris Walker, you'll see what you get from him.

He's still young. You look at guys like Buddy Healed, Neesmith and Nemhard, like those aren't those type of like on-ball creator guys that you can really hope for in a playoff setting. Seacom feels that hold immediately. And so the crayon eaters, all that means is that Seacom got a bag

and you play a little bit of the beach. That's it. He got a bag. He can shimmy a little bit. Yeah. But also defensively, like they're, right now they had their 30th in shots giving up at the rim.

None of their guards do shit on ball. You set a screen, their guards just die. And they just sprint to the, rim and just straight at Miles Turner's face and Miles Turner's in a decent job with that, you know, disadvantage he's already at. Their 13th in percentage

given up at the rim. So like, he defends it decently but they have nobody that can stop him from getting there. And Seacom's a, you know, he's not a lockdown defender. He's not like Aaron Gordon at the 4 or anything like that. But he's a pretty good team defender I think he knows that he's a size, he's mobile like, I think he'll help there a little bit. Yeah, this is a legitimate

playoff team now. And this is a team where before you looked at them and regardless of what the offensive rating said you're like you're just not you're just not going to win a playoff series that's that's not you know like that style of basketball just doesn't translate it's cool that you guys are winning games and understanding how to be a competent franchise but now now let's actually take the next step right with all these other teams whether it's boston Milwaukee Philly Miami all these other teams that have good infrastructures let's have a duo that we can build

around and if you still want to trade buddy healed right if you still want to trade miles turner you still have now you have legitimately two core pieces that you can start shaping the future of this team around and so i'm with you like i think that they 100% know or have a very very confident position that they can resign pascal and that he's going to be there next year so one of those guys in terms of buddy healed and miles turner one of those one of them has to be gone. I refuse to believe that going into next year, they are still going to be on the team. Something

has to get done. And now that Masayu Jiri has traded Pascal Seyakum, anything's possible. Anything. I would think it was possible. I think if anything it makes... I mean, I'm sure they love Jarvis Walker, the draft him for reason. I think it makes him a little expendable. Now that you have your four of, ideally, the future.

You know, Pascal Seaccombe's 29. He has, what, four, five good years left on him, for sure, before he, like, restarts a fall off probably. Like, he's not a super athletically dependent player, he'll probably be goading he's 33, 34. Sheriff Walker becomes a guy that if you can have that great backup off the bench,

cool, that's an awesome position to be in. But also, if you want to upgrade buddy healed and get a better defender there to make you really lethal, you have more, you know, options at your disposal where he's not quite so untouchable. Yeah. Yeah, I agree. I guess, so the question is,

question is, they're currently the 7th seed, one game behind the Knicks and the heat, who are the 5 and 6 seed tied. do or no half a game actually behind them so they're still firmly in the mix for a top five feed where do you think they're good no let me not even ask that because i don't want to know where you think you're going to finish standing wise because harries has heard that's a whole another can of worms in terms of power rankings and who you respecting these where do they fall i have a better way to frame that i'll say i got i got a ceiling yeah in terms of ceiling

wise right i would say they have like they have the ceiling to be the third or fourth best team in the Eastern Conference and that's a lot to say considering like Joe L&B exists but fourth is like I'm very comfortable with fourth to be honest with me. The Cavaliers been cooking lately so that's but I can see the Patriots being as good as the cows like four seed is very much within reach. That's probably where I put them too honestly like I the calves have been cooking because Donvin Mitchell was incredibly empowered right now with Garland and Mowgli out he's just playing Donovan Mitchell ball eating I don't know if that's going to be maintained when the guys come back. It won't.

So they're in a weird position right now that they're not going to do anything about maybe this summer they will. I think when everybody's healthy fully clicking, I can see the patience being pretty comfortably better. I'll put them at five. I think that, or tie for fifth, I think that they can be just as good as the heat.

But I think the teams that I would trust above them would be the Celtics, the Bucks, the Sixers, and the Knicks. And then I knew you're going to go there Of course You got the shirt on Look at the shirt I mean I get it I get it

I get it legitimately No that's fair I get it I get it I uh It's honestly a very comfortable team The one in four Being the two star players

And then you have like OG as a third piece there versus Miles Turner As a defensive piece there They're actually pretty similar teams I don't know which way I lean there But I see it That's a very good conversation

Don't let us get Mitch back That's really the big part is that if the Knicks can get a healthy Mitch Robinson back, the entire defense changes, the entire, you know, offensive rebounding, getting extra possessions, that changes. So I think that's going to be the difference maker. Mitch isn't going to come back until late, late in the season if he comes back at all. So right now, it's probably a three-way tie between the Knicks, Miami, and Indiana.

Yeah, if we view the Celtics Bucks and Sixers as like the upper tier, that next four teams that there are very much within like, they're in kind of like an arms race for second tier in the end. East. Yeah, exactly. They just made the East so much more competitive and so much more fun to watch. And honestly, like, it would not surprise you if a team like the Indiana Pacers were able to sneak into the Eastern Conference Finals some way, somehow, you know? It surprised me a little bit, but yeah, they definitely have a punch of chance for sure now. Like, they have the firepower that, like, it's just interesting to think, like, you look at

their lineup now. Neesmith is a good defender. I wouldn't call them, like, your wingstopper ideally you shouldn't be like your number one wing defender but he's good in your starting line right he's been great Seaccom's a yeah yeah Seaccom's a good defender I mean nobody's been great they're the fucking 30th defense in the league but

if you know four what he has to do he's been solid Seaccom's a good defender Miles Turner should be a good defender right now he's always been up and down granted he's in a bad situation to have him defend everybody he's not Gobert that's three out of five your starters are good defenders but do you really trust their defense

to hold up in the playoffs even with Seaccom that's tough no no no it really depends on their offense like i don't think that they can continue to be at both ends of the spectrum and if they decide to continue to lean into this very very uptempo you know this very wide open style of offense i think that that's just going to lead them on this path of staying you know one of the worst defenses in in the league i don't think that they get up to like a middling defense maybe even like 17th or 16th I don't think that's in the cards for them this year even though that you know like you just said a majority of the starting lineup is good at defense yeah they're basically just the kings now like you think

about it like de aaron and sabonis is very similar to tyrese and siacum uh seeacum difference is having a miles turner there there's a possibility of building a solid defense there with a good rim defense with siacum and turn it together yeah and the kings don't really have that possibility with Sabonis being the anchor. So maybe that makes me believe in their not this year version of them, but like an extra version of them. If they can get another strong defender on the wing, I can see a world who this team contends.

Yeah, I'll say like, it's so much, like you're right, you're right. I agree with you 100%. It's so much easier to build off of the infrastructure that they've recently, newly built. And I can't, I can't imagine them finding a hard time or having a hard time or having a hard time trying to find a buddy who will replacement who can be a complete black hole at times or if Aaron Neesmith who's been underrated defensively he's been busting his ass defensively having another he's been trying he's been trying hard they're they're throwing him every tough

assignment in the league he's trying his ass off yeah yeah exactly that's why he's kind of like resurrected his NBA career and um yeah i don't i don't find it hard for them to take that next leap as a serious contender one day but the question like you the original question was right now what's the ceiling and I think that like that four or five whatever ranges they're sealing right now this season because I just don't imagine them all of a sudden just switching their basically entire defensive identity in the middle of the year while we're 39 40 games and I just that's like so rare to see we barely see that yeah I mean yes Yacan's not that kind of defender right he's not like Jonathan Isaac defensively he's not going to come out here and just like swat everything and

completely save your room defense he's not him but he'll help a little bit And I noticed you mentioned it's not going to be hard for them to find their future buddy Hilder placement. Ideally he's already on the roster like it should be Benedict Mathern eventually if he can develop

into that type of player and like hold his own defensively and you know bring along the three point shooting bring along everything you need to play next to Tyrese as a starting lineup that but that's a question

for like next year or the year for that it's not going to be happening this season. Yeah exactly I agree. Shout to say to the end of them man they listen they made the move and

this is this is huge. I just think that they exactly. They set up, they set of Tyrese so perfectly. I'm glad they did it early rather than later when it's like a year away from, you know, from Tyrese maybe you know, requesting a trader or getting into like a weird situation. They were, they were

very proactive on this and I appreciate that from them. And that's their MO's organization, right? Like they're always going to do what they can to make the best team possible. They are like the poster child for refusing to tank, refusing to go the rebuild, they're going to be a competitive team and use every asset at their disposal. It honestly makes it very interesting to see how teams can rebuild from the middle

without tanking. Because like, you know, this team never tanked a single season. And now they have Tyreys Halliburton and Pascal Seaccom. Like there's always an avenue to improve and make something out of nothing. And like it makes you look at teams like the Charlotte Hornets who haven't done shit for lamello ball or the I mean the Hawks tried. They made a move. They had

a young cord. It didn't work out. But like, you know, all these organizations that don't make the move and just like try to be patient. Like, it makes you look them like, maybe you should make sure happen. Exactly. What's a good old saying? Scared money don't make money. God, thanks. The Indiana Pacers went ahead and rolled that dice and they made that shit happen. And it's hilarious that Missai Jury is another end of that who is the definition of scared money over the last few years. He's scared money. He's the definition of that. Which is funny because before that he wasn't. He traded for Kauai. I guess that never mind. I mean,

I even say that because the Kauai trade is the opposite. That's the scared money don't make money like blueprint. But then after that he went the other way. It seems like that. He's like a one-sided GM to me. Like, there's like GMs who are great at knowing how to, like, construct a championship team. But when it comes to, like, learning how to develop a team from ground up, a lot of them don't know how to build that, like, strong base, root, or infrastructure whatsoever. Yeah, man, you win some, you lose some. I think we can, let's a, we're going to grade the trade, but we're going to save it.

Because the episode after the trade deadline, we're going to grade all the trades that happened. So we'll save our official grades for that episode. Okay. I think now we can move on to the title of this episode. We're each going to talk about the rest of the trade deadline that's coming up and talk about the players that we want to see moved, where we want to see them move to. And just in general, kind of predict slash say what we want to happen

during the trade deadline. Let's go. Let's do it. Who wants to go first? Yeah, we all rode down five trades you want to see happen. I figure through those trades we'll kind of canvass the entire league. I guess I'll go first. Let's start with the guy who,

I think is the most, the biggest lock to be traded amongst relevant players, Dejante Murray. That motherfucker is out of there. The Hawks are, I would say in turmoil, you know,

they lost back-to-back games and atrocious losses to the Pacers and the Wizards. They've since won to. Doesn't move me. One of them was against the spurs. One of them was a game winner against the Magic without Franz.

They're so down horrendous. They're going to blow this team up. We'll see what that entails, but at least it's going to include Dejante Murray going to another trade, I mean, going to another team. and I think

we can write the shit in history already he is going to be a Los Angeles Laker and I think he is a Laker already we're just waiting for them to call that shit in I think the writing is on the wall there's so much smoke there has to be fire the clutch connection the fact that Lakers has been reported for wanting

a point guard upgrade this man's a Laker and I think right now they're just waiting to see if they can get Austin Reeves how do you feel about this because I think if we would have asked you this three weeks ago you would have been like keep that man away from my franchise and now I feel like you kind of talked yourself into it yeah okay you guys definitely missed him true

I actually like hated that I was like that what an ugly shot fucking it went in but um you I think you as miss construe my de jonté murray feeling says hatred for him as what really is hatred for him on the hawks I think it was fucking dumb as hell to pair him with tray young but I don't think he's a player without value you know he's not especially what he's being paid he's not very very very very team-friendly contract. So I wouldn't like want the Lakers to move him. Like go for him. I wasn't like coming to the season.

I wasn't like Deshante Murray needs to be the trade target. But if it's going to happen, I see the vision, you know, especially to keep Austin reuse. So my first trade that I want to see happen, knowing that's going to happen for him probably is DeAngelo Russell, Rui Hachimura, and a first round pick for DeJonte Murray. If that's what it is, I'm very okay with it. you want to give me Rui, Dilo, and Austin Reeves

Yeah, go to hell Deelot would obviously be routed to another team And you guys have probably Maybe you get another first for him In a three-team deal So maybe it could be two first in Rui Which at this point It seems like the entire league

He's just low-balling the Hawks And trying to convince them to trade Dejante for nothing You're getting blocked Who knows that they can get anything better Okay, yeah So Nikiel pulled up a trade That this is definitely you're getting blocked

this guy said Bogdan and Dejante for DeAngel Russell, Ruey, Gabe Vincent and a first-on-pick Now you're getting blocked Now you're getting blocked You're trying to sneak Bogdan in there You'd have to include Reyes if you wanted him to No, you're not only getting blocked

I'm pulling up to your house And I'm slashing all your tires You're not getting to work in the next morning, bro How dare you? But I don't know Do you think you can get two first-on picks with Dejante right now? Do you think that's in the cards? I think I can

But not from a team that's pick poor like they have no assets that's true that's true or abundance of assets at least yeah the Lakers are the wrong yeah the Lakers are the wrong team to talk to right now in my opinion but how many teams want them like

what team out there wants him and we'll give you two first on picks for Desjante I think it has to be a team that is young and a team that's trying to find themselves and solidify that final piece who is it you have an idea yeah and that team is the Orlando Magic

the team that he literally just gamed on the other night So is that your trade? Here's our trade proposition, y'all. All right, Isaac. Okay. Crown eaters. I'm ready to be the judge of it. Pew, pew, pew, breaking news.

Adrian Wojianowski announces the Atlanta Hawks have traded DeJonte Murray to the Orlando Magic for Isaac, Jonathan Isaac, and Mark Hill Fultz, and also a first-round pick. Maybe two. I'm asking for two. you'd rather have John Isaac and Fultz rather than Rui in a first I don't have Ruey than Fultz I think

Jonathan and Isaac is more important to what this roster needs than someone like Rui in my opinion but if they can give us two first round picks I'm fucking sold that's what I want honestly do the magic want that bad enough to give up two first round picks

do they want they have two big big big creators in Palo and Franz who are like on-ball guys for them have a lot of size. That means they're not the best mate. I mean, they're good shooters, but, you know, they're not big floor spacers. They need spacing next to them. Two things.

Does the Jonté Murray scream that to you? Two things. One, one, you didn't even have to pause yourself. So that's a good point. Does that throw it out there just in case? You didn't have to. I do too many bigs, my bad. Two, I don't think Orlando would do this.

I think Orlando is good enough with the guards that they have, and they have so much of a, like, youth movement going with their guards that if you are going to accelerate your timeline, trade future first-round picks, and again, Dejante's not bad, but I would expect it to be for a player a little bit better than Dejante Murray. Two first-round picks for him seems like a lot. Yeah, I mean, even like just better fit. Like, I think they need a true spacer if they're going to be doing that. Like, it has to be a legit shooter.

I know he can shoot a little bit but he's not like Is 30% on six attempts per game Just nothing nowadays What are we talking about over here? Yeah well context matters It's not all 38% are built the same Yeah that's true

And I can agree with that But in terms of what they have right now Which is Marco Foltz Who's like I don't know 15% It fucking works I'm I love this because I I know that as soon as DeJante Murray is traded, Mo's going to be like, man, man, this guy can't

even shoot, go, go do this. No. He's hyping him up. He's trying to raise his trade profile right now. It just doesn't, like, you already have, you already have two forwards who have been kind of hindered by a lack of spacing, right? Jalen Suggs is over there and the question with him has always been his shooting. They need knockdown.

right they need they need somebody who can come in and sniper i'm knocking in everything and dajante murray just isn't that and also for two for two forwards that they have who who do handle the ball you want the ball in their hands and bringing de jante in there is kind of the same issue that you had in Atlanta where you have a star that is ball dominant you bring in another ball dominant guard, there's not another reason to do that when you have two like creators the way that they have with Paolo and Franz. Yeah, Palo's like a point forward at this point. Trash.

Sorry, Hawksson. Yeah, fuck off. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This was not working. Donovan, do you have a Dejante destination in mind? I actually, I actually don't. I think like, I like the Lakers one. I've talked myself into it.

I think that DeJante is just so, so weird. And, like, he's not bad, obviously. And he's a very good player. I just, I'm struggling and figuring out where he fits the best and where his, you know, like where his skill set can be optimized. And at this one, like, just send him to the Lakers. Just do it. And it'll be okay.

They need a point guard. That's probably the upgrade that they need. Gay Vincent hasn't played at all. There's been a bus. Send him away. Everybody has known since the moment they resigned Delo and Rui that those are two trade contracts. Just get over with.

That's going to be their big move and it's fine. So I thought I think about it. Desonte on a team like the Utah Jazz wouldn't be bad at all. They actually, I don't say need a guard at all because props to the guys like Jordan Clarkson, Colin Sexton, and Kristen, who's like, He's a terror on the defensive end.

Shout to all of them. They don't need it. But obviously, Desaunté Murray is someone who you trust long term. And that could be an option off the top of my head. Now with the Utah Jazz and Danny Ains should be in the market. I don't think so. I think he probably just wants to sit and sit on his hands and just see what this team does and let things run this course.

But that's another team that's like in that stage. DeJante Murray on the Jazz feels like year five of a 2K franchise. Like where everybody's just traded, it would be so weird seeing them there. I don't, this is like, all right, that's, that's random. Him and John Collins back in Utah, it's like, what are we doing here? That's very random. Yeah, I mean, they've been so good lately. Like you said, they're probably just like going to write it out to see what happens.

They're doing the Patriots thing of building from the middle and trying to see what they can do over time. So I don't see them being the market, but I wouldn't hate to fit. I think that's not bad. It'll be great. Him alongside Laurie Marketing. That's the only thing that I'm thinking about. but yeah but it's just you know there's rumors like the spurs were attached to potential trying to get djante back but i don't think that's going anywhere like the sixers have been attached to everybody

because they got a lot of moves to make i don't really want to see him in the sixers but i wouldn't hate it i wouldn't love it either gotcha well donovan since you didn't have a djante murray trade for us you got another trade for us yeah who's the next player we're going to talk about i do i want to see andrew wiggins gone from golden state um i think i think the experiment has run its course. I think Andrew Wiggins is back to not understanding how to play high level basketball again. And for the Warriors, they need that piece. They need another wing score. They need somebody who can step into that Andrew Wiggins role. And I think that the perfect player to do that would be Kyle Kuzma. I think that if you ship wigs and a first, right, maybe maybe whatever

else to get it done, but that is the core of the deal, Wigs and the first, you go get Kuzma and you get a younger Andrew Wiggins, and you kind of go in that direction. Very different players, but I see your point, like having another big wing that can come in. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it would take two first to get Kuzma. And that's fine. Do the Warriors have two tradable first? I don't remember, honestly. Let me, let me double check on there. Yeah, let's use the tradeable picture. I love the idea of that, though. Maybe, and maybe if they don't have two tradable first, I can't remember right now. I don't know why. Maybe you part with a Moses Mooney, or maybe you part with a Camingo, something. Like, I think it would take that extra sweetener. Is he,

worth that to you, Isaac. Is he worth two first-on-picks? Absolutely. Is he worth one first and moody? Probably. I think Coos is extremely good. And also, the problem with this whole idea is, none of the same problem, it doesn't kill it. But I think right now Andrew Wiggins has probably viewed as an extremely negative contract. Yeah. Like, he's horrible right now.

He can barely play it. Like, he's fucking ass. Like, he's not even reverting back to like pre-trade. He's like down horrendous. He's worse than Minnesota. Wiggins right now. He can't even get buckets. Bro, he's one of the worst players in the NBA right now. If you look at their net ratings, all their lineups that include Andrew Wiggins are like minus 1,000,

and their lineups when he's off the court have all been positive. Like, he's legitimately holding them back extremely right now. And again, it's hard to talk about it because there's so many reasons that might be at play with him that you don't want to bash him too much,

who knows what the reason for it. But he's falling off a fucking cliff and he has a lot of money being paid to him for a lot of years left on his contract. Why would any team want that on their books? You know? so maybe that's I said to say maybe you have to attach an asset

so maybe that's pay even more and that and that is okay and I think that for the Warriors both Kaminga and Moody should 100% be on beyond the block to to make any trade because as we've seen Steve Kurtz not gonna

he's not like when the time comes to play Moody or to play Kaminga he's not going to do it and they've run their course in terms of this development for those two guys specifically the young the young rookie pods

and uh and t jd they are they're good right and we understand that they that they um they fit into what they're doing steve curr likes them what you froze for us for a second keep going yeah okay my bad anyways steve steve likes them he doesn't like moody or kermiga one of them is expendable you can attach them to this deal but i like guzma in that uh in the warrior system right now yeah i think it would know it would probably be i think because andrew wiggins such a negative contract. This trade is probably more likely to be Chris Paul, a first round pick, and like a moody. That way. Chris Ball back to the goddamn wizards. That's so sad. Oh, he'd get bought out. He'd get bought out overnight and he'd sound like his next morning probably. So that's not important.

But I think Kuzma's worth two first round picks. They probably value him that way. Andrew Wiggins is negative first round one. Andrew Wiggins is negative one first round pick. So that's like you need three picks to get Kuzma for Wiggins and the Warriors on doing all that. So I can see Chris Paul his expiring contract being the salary there instead of Wiggins. Dude, that's a heavy This is a contract. He has three years left, bro.

26 mil, 28 mil, than a player option for 30 mil, which I can guarantee you 31 year old Andrew Wiggins will not be turning down. Yeah, he getting that money. And if he's gonna be the worst player in the league for three more years,

oh my God. That's... Listen, him and Jordan Poole reunited. Listen, maybe he just needs his friend. Right? Maybe that's it. maybe he just needs a happy face around him and they can be the Brunch Brothers in D.C.

Instead of... Brunch Bros. I do love the idea of Kuzma. My only worry is, Kuzma's really good. I like him a lot. We've seen a lot of young players come and go through that warrior system

and it's kind of like a flip of a coin if they're going to be able to play in that reading React system playing all these off-screen movements through Steph Curry. Is Kuzmo equipped to do that? I have no fucking clue. I think you kind of have to like see them do it

before you can imagine it because like Kelly Rubey is a great player. he's playing really good for the six years he was horrific in that system i have no clue which way kuzum was going to go on that i mean yeah it's it's kelly uber though like and i guess like uber's cool right he's a nice guy but like i the the young guys that have come through through the warrior system i feel like like kuzma especially because of his stint with the lakers like he has actual experience and this is championship pedigree i mean Listen, it's true, right?

It's true. And it's the same thing that we saw with Wiggins where it's completely different if you are the second option on your team rather than if you are the third, right? Sure, for sure. Yeah. It's just awkward because it's just hard because the Warriors play a very specific system that requires you to be like, you know what you got to be like a fucking basketball genius to thrive in the warrior system? Like it's so cerebral having to make all these reads all the time off these screens that stuff's running around like a maniac. And there's so many cuts. And, like, you have to really be fucking smart.

And not to say Kuzma's not. But, you know, like, you got to really be able to read the game to succeed in that system. And it's just, who knows until you see him do it, like I said. Yeah, exactly. Let's run it, though. If, yeah, I'll make that risk. I like that. If there was a player who was able to fit in the warrior system,

I would like to cash in my tips and saying, Kyle Kuzn would be that type of player because of the Lakers experience and him being so off ball and adapting to that pretty well with the Lakers. I'll put my cash. I'll put my catch aside and be like, yeah, I want this guy. How do you guys feel? You know, there's a report the other day that the Warriors, I don't know you can pull up in the kill,

are looking for a skilled seven-footer that can score the ball. That was the sport. Every other team in the league. Every fucking buddy wants that, right? Nice. The Bulls have one that they don't want. Nikola Vucevic. That has been a Warriors-link thing for a while for various reasons.

People kind of just like put it together. That would make sense. It seems like the price is extremely low. It's like, fucking please take them is the price. Like, I'll give them. do you? Would you trade a Chris Paul contract plus the second round pick Rebusovich? You have a Dremont Green to cover up

defensively for him. He can doesn't have to close games at all. You have still Kavon Looney. Does that, you know, they need the offensive points. They need a new look. That's a new look they've never had. A seven-footer that can shoot like that. Does he move you at all? Sure. I mean, they have absolutely nothing to lose. I mean, Chris Paul's... Sure.

Yeah, like, why not? Like, this is a good idea. Yeah. I mean, it's not bad, but I don't expect this. to elevate them from like the purgatory area that they're in right now but why not sure man as long as you be you you'd be happy bro as long as you're happy that's those are the vibes I'm going with right here yeah I don't know what I don't know what it would take to get Vucevic I don't know if they value him as like needing picks like and nobody around the

league really wants them there's no real good fits for him if you're gonna find a good fit for him it's next to Dramong Green like that's the one place you can imagine somebody having a player that can cover Roussevich's weaknesses I don't hate it yeah Whoever made this graphic right here Wemby next to Steph and Clay that would kill my basketball spirit. The 16, I'll probably like, I wouldn't be on this fighter right now

bro. Okay. Seeing Webby on the fucking. What a way to say that softly without getting us hit for terms of service? Good job. I think I'm rid of Katie just to get this guy. Oh my God. But I'd be fucking sick. Yeah. What's your next player we should talk about

Mo? Who's your trade? So, I have another trade proposal. You guys let me know if they're trash or what. The Philadelphia 76ers are hitting up the Portland Shore Blazers for Jeremy Grant and Malcolm Brogden. And in return, the Blazers get Tobias Harris, Marcus Smart, who just got the goddamn keys to the city. Tragic. But along with that, they get a pick, maybe two picks, probably two first-arm picks. Did you say Marcus Smart? Marcus Morris my bad oh there we go okay so it's a lot to digest wait wait wait say it again say it again real quick

Jeremy Grant Malcolm Brogden to the Portland Trailblazers for Tobias Harris and Marcus Morris and two picks yeah don't ever call my phone again no get the fuck out my face this is this is the kind of trade both teams say no this is this is this is this is this is this is this is is the kind of trade that a good fantasy football team like gives a bad fantasy football team like towards week 10 but they're like listen your team sucks just just give me your two best players and we can keep it moving i don't see why the blazers would do this two first on picks that's why it's from the sixers and those picks are aren't going to be they're not well no well not i don't see why this why would this i don't know why the sixers would do that either

i don't know whether all in move would be to get tobias harris out of there and get a slightly better to buy his Harris. Like, Jamie Grant's not moving me like that, that I would, like, I would get rid of my assets I got for James Hardin and get an expensive ass to buy his Harris at that. This man is paid. It's like $100 million over four years. Like, this man is a big contract. And, you know, they can have max contract space this summer. I wouldn't sacrifice that and get rid of my assets for Jeremy Grant. Now, did you guys forget about Malcolm Bronson? He's not, do you not see the value that he can provide off the bench? I don't, I don't give a shit. he does not move me i don't care so this is an all in when i was putting this trade together

this is an all-in move obviously they're like yo like yeah you have cap space during this off season but who the fuck are you're going to use that cat face for you have to margaroles and pascal see how come this off-season is really a wash you'd be looking at the off-season after that and at that point in time you're putting all your bets on joel and beat still being healthy by the time he's like 31 32 years old and i don't know if that's a great thing to do. But it wouldn't be a bad thing either, of course. But you'd be pretty, pretty, pretty much like saying this is the team that will help propel us towards the top. Jeremy Grant's average 21 this season, soon to 40% from the three point line. And Malcolm Brogden has been,

good for him. Malcolm Brogden has been good for him. A great backup point guard starting some time, some night to the Portland Trail Bladers, who's sought after by a couple teams so far or so far in the trade rumor era that we're in right now Tobias Harris has been good I don't think Tobias Harris is meaningfully better enough that I would like that's not an all that move to me I think it's a slightly better move Do you not value the defense that Jeremy Grant

could provide and also the creation and shooting? No I think it's not that much better than Tobias I really You're talking about him like he's Pascal Seaccom I don't think Jeremy Grant's that great I mean he's not Pascal Seaccombe obviously He makes a lot of money bro He's paid like Pascal Seaccombe

And that's the point He's not Pascal Seahoff. He's like in the same tiers to buy his hair. So there's no reason to shake up each team. He's better, but like not, not meaningful enough to get rid of their flexibility for him, I don't think. Yeah, I would, I would rather run it back. Obviously, Nick Nurse has this team playing the best that it's looked in years, right? And the fact that Joelle and Bede has been unlocked to go to a new level, Maxie is taking another step.

I would happily continue playing with this duo, with this kind of core and have flexibility. And next year, we see what's going to happen. This duel is only going to get better together. Like I said, there's no need to blow it up. But I do like where your mind is at for Portland, getting Jeremy Grant out of there, getting Malcolm Brogden,

because those are actually, I have two trades for both of them. And so we can use this to pivot. Let's go. My trade for Malcolm Brockton, send him to the New York Knicks for Evan Fornier, a first round pick, and then you can either pick between another pick or Quentin Grimes. I wrote down a fournier and a first for him as well. I don't think you need to attach a second pick.

I think that's enough. And that's fine. That's fine. That's why I think the Knicks, obviously trading away Emmanuel quickly, the bench depth has suffered. You need a backer point guard. Brogden is right there. He's right there on the team that's already.

filled with guards, they don't need him like that. Send him to the Knicks. We can get off the contract, you know, give him the asset. And it works out for everybody. Fantastic trade. I'm 100% with you. He needs to be a New York Nick. It makes all the sense of the world for both parties.

Where do you see Jeremy Grant going? Because I don't know who wants four years of Jeremy Grant. I think the only team that, maybe not the only team, but one of the team that makes sense for me, it's the Dallas Mavericks. I think, I think. Okay. I like that. I think I like that too.

The way that the money worked, you can get it for Grant Williams and Maxie Kleber. I think that having that scoring in the front court, you obviously have Luca and Kyrie there. If you can make an upgrade there in the front court and add somebody who can also create and you still have Derek lively, somehow Dwight Powell survives again, but you just keep rocking with him, I think that gives them another punch offensively that that would be, you know, very useful. And the shooting is going to be there, right? The shooting is going to be there and it's comparable.

I think I like that. The only question, so would it take two first-on picks? Yeah, you need picks on top of that. But for Dallas, it's okay. I think, I don't think that you are as available to go out and sign for agents like that or make another big, big move, I think this is probably the biggest

that it's going to get, so. I like that. And if they're offensively, it's a great fit. Yeah. And if they do a move like this, it would have to be either this offseason. Yeah, definitely this off season because that's when another pick is available for them.

And that's when they can, you know, have more free will to do whatever it is and add in whatever assets to make. Yeah, well, they can give one first round pick and then throwing like this tweet says that to kill those pull up, either Green or Jaden Hardy, if they view that as like equivalent

of a set another first-round pick I don't like that the only problem is I think that's that I like the offensively because I'm a lot of punch that trio of offensive players is great. Derek Lively to hold down your rim defense

and beat a lopterre to bring it all together offensively it would make them fucking lethal I just think it would be really important for them to have a legit locked-down defender to three to fit next to all them because we've seen Jeremy Grant

back in his thunder days back in his Nuggets days focus on defense and be a great defensive player and like be legitimately surprisingly good rim protector from the four flexible to play

the three or the four guarding on the perimeter like very valuable defensive piece he hasn't been that in some years he really wants to be a go-to-bucketter guy and get himself paid that's clearly where he wants to take his career he looks himself in the mirror and he sees Camelo Anthony and that's how he plays

if he's going to buy in defensively playing nice to Luke and Kyrie because like you already paid you might as well do what the team needs then I like it a lot then I like it a lot but clearly he has a different vision for himself so I don't know if he's into buy in like that Spanagan's got $157 million. Like he's...

He better buy the fucking... Yeah, come on now. I just say, you've played in Detroit and Portland for the last two teams. Remember what it feels like to be a winner, to be on a competent team, right? Buy in, play defense, and everything is good. I like that. So, yeah, that's my move for Jeremy Graham. If a move like this happens for the Dallas Mavericks, I'm immediately.

raising their ceiling to like this team could make a run for the Western Conference finals and potentially make the finals and wouldn't shock me at all if everything went perfectly well but like I just said yeah yeah there is as long as they have Luca and the healthy roster around him they're always not have a chance so any extra bolstering they can do the roster easier for me to say Western Conference Finals is very realistic yeah all right so Brogman was one of my five as well I didn't have Jeremy Grandchay so he's not one of my five my next one next name let's talk about Zach Levine we haven't mentioned him yet one

One of the bigger names in the trade market, has been for a while. It seems like he's all but traded in the same way that Jonté-Marie is. Etch it in the stone, he's fucking out of there. It's like the bulls have made it very clear. They don't want him for many reasons. The only problem is he makes a lot of money and doesn't seem to have a very robust trade market right now. You know, the only name that's a team that's been linked to him hard is the Lakers, but there's been a lot of reports in recent days that they're not that interested.

Who knows if it's sure or not, no way to tell until the week of the trade deadline comes. But let's not even talk about the Lakers. There's two teams, I think, have a chance to get him that makes sense to me. The Sacramento Kings and the Orlando Magic. You came to the dark side. Welcome. I've been pressing this propaganda for months on months on months. Let's ride.

Yeah, about the Kings. We're talking about the Kings here, that Moe's been a big fan of living there. I still don't love it for the reasons you've said. I mean, for reasons I've said in the past and you brought it up. But I think he's going to be cheap enough that it probably makes sense. Mix with the fact that Kevin Herder has been docked yet this year. He just can't buy a three. He has not been the level of play we saw him.

last year, which I say that. I don't know what he's been shooting as of late. Maybe he's recovering. I'm not sure. Let me not completely shit on him without knowing for sure. But, you know, they clearly need an upgrade at the two or three. Keegan Murray's there to stay. He's awesome. I think he has very, very, very high level role player potential. Maybe it could be also level, who knows. But Harrison Barnes and Herder aren't going to cut it. Malik Monk is getting a lot of the runs at two guard. It was great. But they can use an extra punch there. So I think they could trade two first-round picks, Kevin Herder, Tray Liles, and Dave Yon Mitchell for Zach Levine.

I would accept that in the Biles of Bulls You would Yeah I would Hell yeah you would If you can get gifted a two-person Picks for Levine you take in an instant You don't have any option to say no But I think

You know they're replacing harder in the rotation For Zach Levine makes whole sense Trey Liles is a decent player Not that important And they clearly don't fuck with Davey on Mitchell Long term like that So with a lot of depth to give up for Zach Levine How do y'all feel

It's depth that would help them Get out the mud because It's a mid three too So I don't know. This team, the Sacramento Kings team, I don't know what Kings fans' expectations were or whatever. I know Isaac before the season, you thought they were going to be good and shouldn't lose a step or whatever, but I thought they were going to be worse, not necessarily like, they haven't been as worse as I thought they've been. But what we know them for, they haven't lived up that, lived up to that expectation.

They have the- 23 and 17. They have the 14th rated offense in the NBA. And their defense is obviously worse than that. never hung their hat on that end. And if you're going to hang your hat on, you know what I'm saying, being one of the most powerful offenses in the NBA, you have to do that actually. And those things haven't been clicking whatsoever. And so I think this is one of the few ways, not the only way, but one of the few ways to help get yourself back on the right track. And I also think that this trade lifts up their ceiling. Do I think they're going to win a championship?

Fuck no. West Carolina's finals, probably not. But do I think this makes them better? yes, and that's what all NBA teams should be striving towards at the end of the day. I'm going to push back on that a little bit because if they were like a top eight team offensively, I could understand the idea of doubling down, but the fact that they are mid-offensively and still bad defensively, it's clearly not the same team as last year where you are the best offensive team and it's okay that you, okay. that you aren't good defensively because you have this amazing offense

and balance it out. I think at this point, they need to go and make a move. And I don't have a move on the top of my head for the Kings. I wasn't thinking about that before. But I would rather them see a move to address their defense

rather than double down on their offense, especially if your center is sub bonus. And kind of like the infrastructure of what you do defensively isn't necessarily, like it doesn't have a high ceiling. So going to get Zach Levine doesn't fix any of their problems. So I would love it. I agree.

But it's just they got to do something. And I think I kind of think inversely that their defense is never going to be good with a bonus. So you might as well make sure you got an elite offense because you're going to need it if you have a chance of any type of team organization you have. In my opinion, like you have to lean into what you're known for and your identity. Like why go ahead and try to fix as much as possible a defense with someone who's not a shot? Walker, not particularly fast on his feet, cancel tongue guards or anything like that. Lean into what you're good at and maximize your potential. And it's okay if you do one thing that you're good at and try to, like, remain a mid-17th,

18th overall defense in the NBA. That's perfectly fine. This feels like, though, it feels like it's coming from the perspective of a King's fame rather than just like an overall NBA, like watching phase. Because if you are a Kings fan, you understand that your team has been a poverty franchise for almost two decades. And you're like, hey, this is the best it's going to get. Like, let's just be good, right? And I understand that, that you've had one winning season or you've had one playoff trip in the last 17 years.

You want to hold on to that. But also from an NBA front office, like, if you have Deerrin Fox, you want to be building and moving in a direction that is kind of like championship adjacent. it like or at least be on that path to grow to that so that's what i'm like putting yourself in this position to go give up assets to get a zach levine you are doing what the chicago bulls did and it's like hey let's just be good enough to be in the playoffs like it's okay we know that we're not built to win a championship but we're going to have fun along the way and i think that that's probably going to create more problems down the line rather than just doing what you're doing you know yeah yeah again is

the gotta do something we'll see you're right it is a big commitment to Zach Levine who has a four year contract so maybe maybe it's not a thing

Nikiel pull up this tweet so I would ask people on Twitter to give us trade ideas this guy has a king's trade in mind

Kevin Herder and Chris Duarte for Contavius Colval Pope and Reggie Jackson I think you're cleaning that a Nuggats

out Yeah but this guy in the gulog send us your adie bro the nuggets aren't trading

Catavis Calval Pope It would be awesome for the Kings if they would, but there's no reason for the Nuggets to do something like this. They're good. But anyways, I don't really like the King's trade that much either. I threw it out there because I see it as realistic. The team that I really want Levine to go to is the Orlando Magic. I don't even know if the magic would do this

because there's been no real rumors about it, but I would love to see two first-one picks, Gary Harris, John Isaac, and maybe Caleb Houston for Zach... Big sneeze. Seems like a lot. It is a lot. So you can take out Caleb Houston if you'd like.

John Isaac, Gary Harris, and two first-round picks. Or as his tweet pulled up and then he'll pulled up, John Isaac, Markle Fultz, a first-on pick and a second-round pick. Whatever variation of picks that they negotiate to and get to find fair, John Isaac, salary, and picks for Zach Levine. I see the vision heavy. I can see the vision with this, with not giving up two first-round picks.

I think, yeah, I think that's a bit much. But if this is the move, I think I could talk myself into it in like two weeks. And I'll be like, okay, yeah. Like, this is, this is something that obviously we talked, we talked about Orlando earlier. Like, they need, they need spacing. They need, they need, you know, some more score from the guard position.

Yeah. This is kind of light, though. This is just one Denver first-on pick. Like, I think, Zach, let me listen, he's very flawed, or a big contract making a lot of money. He's a good-ass player. I think if the one first-on pick is a Denver first-on pick in 2025, I think you've got to throw another one in there.

Yeah, I agree. But it just depends on the mark. market overall at the end of the day. The market determines the value of these players and this could be passable. I like this. This is basically the same trade that I had except for the Atlanta hogs and Zach Levine. And you guys are right. This right here is, I don't want to say a match made in heaven because defense exists. But if there's going to be a player who the Orlando Magic should target, it's going to be someone of Zach Levine's archetype. Now, he'd be awesome. He'd be so good. Yeah. But with this.

The Chicago Wolves dare hit up a team like the Orlando Magic after they got like finessed a couple years ago and robbed out of the entire features? I don't know. Yeah. That's kind of dirty business. I think they would try to write their wrongs and be like, listen, let's try this again. We're ready this time. Listen, Zach Levine does not have a robust trade market. If the magic are throwing picks, they're going to fucking catch them.

Like, they're not, they don't have the option to be picky and hold ill will towards anybody. They are down bad and need somebody to take Zachovina off their hands. Palo has basically been playing the point guard lately especially with Franz out he's getting better those reps are important for him he'll be a lead ball handler for a while they still need to figure out the point guard maybe it'll be Suggs maybe it'll be Anthony Black eventually I don't know but Zach Levine being able to play off ball there and truly thrive as an off the dribble shooter and catch and shoot shooter guy coming off of screens guy cutting off ball getting the on ball touches whenever Palo's on the bench it makes so

much sense there for his skill set yeah and he's like he's not going to be allowed to be the one option or think he is, which he doesn't need to, right? Like, he needs to be put into more of a tertiary role. And I just can't think of a better fit there offensively. Yeah, I agree. Right now, Powell Bankero has been fighting for his fucking life, playing with Chuo Kiki, playing with Caleb Houston, playing with Marco Fultz, who's back now again, of course, and Jonathan Isaac and then, boys, like he has no spacing.

And this would elevate a team like the Atlanta Magic Sealing to one of the seven guaranteed best teams in the Eastern Conference. think there are seven right now which is absolutely hilarious but maybe they could but maybe they could get up to sixth um and i think this puts them in the right path of like contending for a championship one day which should be their aspirations yeah guarantee that the team is going to be one of the seven best in the conference is hilarious the number eight right now that's so funny said you sir you are going to be the first team in to play in 20 this year you'll play a home game. Good job. Do either of you have

Zach Levine trades before we move on? No, I actually don't have a Zach Levine trade. My Zach Levine trade would be the Lakers package for Levine. Okay, so DeJante? Yeah. Me personally, I'd prefer that, but I know there's been a lot of reports from well-trusted Lakers insiders that they're not that interested in Levine for whatever reason may be. I would personally am very moved by Zach Levine next to LeBron and AD. So I hope that one happens more than I do to Jante. Yeah, I just think, I just think that that fit would be much, much better.

And especially like once we get to the playoffs and we've seen LeBron play, you know, off ball more this year and doing that type of role, listen, when it comes down to it, the ball's going to be in LeBron's hands, right? And so having somebody who could play off of him and, and have that scoring upside that Zach Levine has, I think that once you get to April, May, June, that that. That would raise the Lakers ceiling immensely in that it's a much better fit than Dejante. My dream is that Dejante package,

but you throw in Austin Reeves and you get Caruso back as well. Caruso and Levine next to LeBron and AD fucking moves me. That'd be awesome. That will be nuts. Caruso, Levine, Bron, or whoever you move Braun to the five.

Bobby Torrean Prince, brawn, and AD is fucking crazy. Now that team, the Lakers would officially be back balance to be a thing. Yeah, I don't know if it'll happen, though. I think Donovan, it's your turn. Who's the next player we should talk about? Next player, next player.

I have been talking about this since week two of the season that the Spurs need a point guard. And I've been saying they need to go out. They need to get Tyos Jones. Okay. I would, if I would them, I would trade Devante Graham and the picks to go get Tyos Jones. I like it. The only worry I have is, you know, it's a lot.

half a season left, they're tanking, they're going to have a high first on pick. Do they want to trade a first on pick for Tyos when they're probably going to pick one of the top of next year's draft? And they already have Tray Jones who's starting now and playing decent. The only thing I would be worried about in that sense is that even like the top top teams, it's not as guaranteed as it is anymore to that you like are going to have the number one pick. Like we've seen Oh for sure. You know what I'm saying? Like we saw the pistons have the worst record in the league and then fall to four in a drop fall to five which is like or maybe it was four i can't remember it was that was that was yeah that was ridiculous so for the spurs it doesn't necessarily have to be

this next year right you can put it you can put it two years away or whatever but i think a first round pick and nevante graham who's barely played this year to go get tires jones and even if you go and you end up drafting a point guard this year having a competent veteran point guard in the building with your young rookie point guard would make sense in the future anyway so it would it makes sense now and later yeah i like that my only thing was like do they view tray jones like already being that as like the ideal backup next year maybe but if not if he's not if they don't view him on that level i like that tis jones would be a great fit there no yeah i 10% agree um but for the spurs they don't have they're not a team that tends to make in season trades like that just isn't

their Gn's forte necessarily other than them trading away, Akapurto, just a couple years, or was it last season, I believe? Damn, aside, that's so tough. Anyways. That was the one of the dumbest trades of all time. I don't even get me started. He's washed, but anyways, like I'm saying, the Spurs just aren't used to doing that, but I love the idea and I see the vision of this was to happen.

Wembe would have that rookie of the year ward secured because he has a point guard to put the ball in his hands. That's it. Yeah. Do you have a Tice Jones trade, Mo? No, I don't necessarily have a Tice Jones trade, but I have another trade that could potentially work. Okay. And it's in the similar to your, not moving really mountains necessarily.

So loki trade. The Sacramento Kings going back to you. I'm sorry. Listen, we are going to get to your trade. Who tweeted this, man? Who tweeted this? Everybody, listen, we asked everybody to drop their favorite trade moves. Somebody said, Donovan to rehab.

Let me tell you something that's rude and disrespectful and I don't appreciate it. Rehab for what? Is there something you can tell us, Donovan? What does he know that? No, there's no, exactly. I'm asking you right now. What is what is going on? Bad Draftonitis?

I didn't know. I didn't know I had a problem. I didn't know this was an intervention. Listen, the first step is acceptance. So, you know, he's helping you along the road. Tell me. Tell me what is wrong. Right.

Excessant 80. That's what I would say. I'll be my guess, probably. This is not even funny. See, now it's not funny. Now is that funny. Bro. He's cooking.

Shout of the Kante, George Mews. Keep cooking. What's your low-key trade? Yeah. So if there isn't an Isaac tweet, this guy's racist. Back to basketball. low-key trade the Sacramento Kings make a move with the Toronto Raptors the Kings send Kevin Herder to the Raptors for Bruce Brown why I like that two players have

generally what the other teams need the idea of Kevin Hurder sounds really nice he hasn't been that this season has a whole but you have to envision that the type of basketball the running gun type basketball that their head coach in Toronto is trying to establish helps a lot. And Bruce Brown, who hasn't been the Bruce Brown that we saw last year necessarily, could eventually get back into the mold alongside Deere and Fox and DeMontas the bonus. And that could help solidify the Sacramento Kings to be at least mid-defense. And also, he's a great offensive player, too. You can't undermine that. See, that's what I'm talking about. That is exactly what I'm talking about. I like that move so much more for the

Sacramento Kings, then going star hunting and going out and getting Zach Levine because it actually addresses something. And having, having Ruth Brown in the building is so, that's a, shout out to you. That's a, that's a great trade. That's a, that's a great trade. For Toronto, for Toronto, the line of having quickly herder, RJ, Scotty, like that four, that could, that could, that could, that could do some stuff. I'm, I'm, I'm kind of intrigued by that. So, I think that works out for both teams. Yeah, I'm intrigued in general by Bruce Brown because he's very, like, clearly a candidate

to get moved again since then I don't really need him in Toronto as they're hopefully entering a rebuild and focusing on young talent. Like, so many teams could use them. Like, if you tell me he ends up on any of which contender in the league, oh, that makes sense. Like, the price isn't going to be too high. You know, it makes a lot of money, but they can figure it out.

The funniest outcome would be DeAngel Russell getting traded for Bruce Brown. That'd be hysterical with all the beef they've had. Wait, they, oh, wait, you're right. They have beef. You're right. I forget about that. Yeah, they constantly, every time you see each other in the court,

they're calling each other a bitch. It's great. It's a good old-fashioned mid-off. Just two role players just hating each other. But I also have a Bruce Brown trade, though. I also have a Bruce. Let her rip.

Let her rip. Listen, I was very biased in Homer in my trade predictions. I want Bruce Brown to be a Nick. And I see it. Listen, there's been a lot of talk that the Knicks are ready to move on from Quentin Grimes.

let's say he was playing 30 minutes a night last year that's not the case anymore and even with the bench depth kind of being you know evaporated after IQ I like the role for a for a bench player on the Nixon

to have Bruce Brown who is just the perfect guy to play for Tibbs just you know just the exact archetype of benching that Tibbs would want, Scotty, not Scotty, OG is playing, you know, 43 minutes a night. Bruce Brown will play 37 minutes a night. And I think that for a relationship that doesn't seem like it's going, Quentin Grimes hasn't been given the space, send him up there with IQ, we're quickly and

with RJ, let him thrive up there, kind of grow, and we'll give them an asset. And let's make that happen. I think it's a great trade. I like it a lot. I would love to see him get him and Brogden. Then I would like really hit the Knicks seriously Is having like some good depth Still wouldn't pick him to get out the east

But like that'd be a, that would be a team You don't want to see in the playoffs You know there's always like a tier of contenders They're like they're a tough owl You don't want to see them in the second round The Knicks would firmly be in that Yeah, I need that I agree I need that

All right let's go to the next player We're let's see we're almost an hour and a half in Hadn't even got TikTok down yet Let's get through the rest of our trades The next player I want to talk about is Let's go back up Terry Rozier I think

Taylor Ruggier is incredibly up Before we move on to that I see a tweet from Rudy right here Quinn Grimes for Conchar and 2025 first round pick Top 10 protected Quinn Grimes and the Grizzlies

Nice Let's move on Yeah Good trade Rudy I like it Keep it up man Good shit So yeah man

Terry Rojier I think They should trade him I think it makes total sense He has a lot of value He's having an incredible year a lot of teams can be used that could be useful to have him on their team

I think if their line of magic don't get Zach Levine they should throw that basically exact same trade package for Terry Rozier but instead of two first-on picks or an extra young player just one first-on-pick Gary Harris and John Isaac if you're not going to go for a Zach Levine type to be a shooting guard next to Palo and Franz

Terry Rozier can be like the combo guard pseudo point guard there perfect fit bucket getter solid passer like he's been at one of the time that Lamella Ball was out he was averaging over seven assists like he can play make better than you think and i just think it would be a glove and hand fit i absolutely love it that is a w trade that he's in the similar mole of i guess you could say someone like zacklevin but he's so much more cheaper and i think the

production drop off is not like dramatically steep enough to where like there's there's it doesn't make a change in your offense and the shootings there the self-creations there again the is there, which is like the most important aspect of this trade. And so it just opens up a world win of options offensively, which is what they're deficient of currently. So I love it. It's a W trade in my opinion. I want to salute you again, Isaac.

This is another, you guys, listen, going back to back, these are great trades. Yeah, I think the main thing that we are going to see with Orlando Magic Trades is you just need more firepower. You need more offense, right? and for a team that that has a good defensive infrastructure, getting somebody in there who could score the ball, take the pressure off of fronds and palo, that is very, very necessary.

So any one of these types of players is, it makes sense. I love it. We had this tweet pulled up right now, the DeKio pulled up. Somebody said, Terry Rozier and PJ Washington going to the Warriors for Chris Paul, Kaminga, Moody, and a first-on pick. That's way too much. We don't got to give up Kamiga and Moody.

It's extreme. But do you guys like the idea of Rozier and PJ Washington in Golden State? That helps. That definitely helps. I think this probably might be one of the best trades I've seen for the war is because they're adding like two quality players who can actually make a real difference. Now you do lose like Moses Moody or Cominger or one of those two or whatever, which kind of hurts a little bit.

But at the end of the day, you get Terrosier who can give out like much needed offense to them and then PJ Washington too has always been one of the more underrated players or role players in the NBA so this is a great trade. Terry Rozier doesn't strike me as a Warriors type of player but neither did Chris Paul neither did DeAngler Russell

who knows they clearly they want they just really want Steph Curry to be a shooting guard now for some reason so maybe this gives you an avenue to do it I don't know maybe but maybe after two failed trades that under that same mode they're like okay let's let's stop trying to get

another guard to play alongside I've heard to make him the two. Also, Terry Rozier is only 29 years old. For some reason, I thought he was like 30. I thought he was like 30 plus. That time was very shocking. I thought it was like 27 or 26, he's 29. Wow.

I'm shocked. I thought he was much older. Do you guys have a Terry Rozier trade? Now, I will say, I do not have a Terry Rozier trade, but I was fighting for my goddamn life trying to look for a Terry Rozier trade to the Minnesota Timberwolves because the T-Woles are really good margin yes they're by a good margin the best defensive team in the NBA but they have the 20th best offense in the NBA and so that just signals to me they need another punch

offensively or they have to eventually like deal with the inevitable which is we all know what it is Rudy O'Barre, Rudy and Cat. Yeah. They'll figure it out. They're not going to trade for someone that highly paid though this year. They can't. They literally can't because the books just don't work and they don't clear. And Mike Coney is just way too valuable on the court. One of the best shooters, one of the 5-10 best shooters

in the NBA this season. And also off the court, too, doing veteran things with Anthony Edwards and settling the team down whenever they're too you know, inksy or whatever during clutch and important moments. I wouldn't do that necessarily, but I want to see another guard coming off of the bench. And I see right here in a kill pulled it up. Tire with Jones to the Washington Wizards for, um, centered around Kyle Anderson and the rest of those guys, that's an interesting trade. That's slow. Kyle Anderson, yeah, I don't think that you're going to trade Kyle Anderson.

I think he's a big part of the rotation off the bench. Yeah, it's Tice Jones for Kyle Anderson, shake Milton, and a second round pick. All right. I don't think they need ties Jones. I think, I can see than getting another guard, but it has to be more of a scoring punch, I think. I think they need like a real bucket getter on the bench. And they want to shake Milton to be that. He hasn't done shit for them, though. He's been ass. He's a bunch of shake that ass. So that's why who's your next, who's your next player, Mo? That was my team, bro. I'm all out. I ain't got more trades with me. I ain't have no options, no answers. All right. Do you got one, we got one more Donovan? Nope. Those are, those are my five. All right, I got one more. Kelly Olinick.

the Utah Jazz have been rumored a lot to be sellers just not even rumored they've been wished to be sellers people have been begging for the like every time there's a mid team with interesting players people just like try to like will into existence they trade them to teams that they like more

it's been Lauer Marketing for most of the year that's not happening they've been extremely good as of late but despite them being really good they're obviously going to look towards the future they're rebuilding team I think Kelly Olenik is a prime candidate to get moved so that way they can continue to be good they keep Sexton they keep Lair Markin

but they can't Cash and Olinick for a first-round pick. And, you know, the team that's been linked to Lauer-Marconin hopes is the Oklahoma City Thunder. Lai-Markin's not getting moved. They're not going to make the all-in-move. But I think Kelly Olinic to the Thunder for Davos-Britons, his contract, and a first-on-pick. That fixed a lot for the Thunder, I think. Get them one more big body that can stretch the floor, a legit backup five, who could also play next to check and give them size.

I love that. Any trade? Yes, exactly. any trade involving the thunder and a first round pick i'm like hey go do it you have a million of them and what if literally the cost is one of one of those first round picks and that was per tons yeah go make go make the trade right it it doesn't look like they're going to make the all in trade but every trade doesn't have to be the blockbuster trade you can make moves around the margins and we've we've had this conversation with this team recently in that do they do we think

that they even need to make one of those big trades, or is the core of Shea, Chet, and J. Dub, already good enough. And now you just need to do the tweaking. I think this works. And I think this helps them a lot. So I like this. This trade is beautiful in every way imaginable. Kelly Ballinick, I never thought I would say this out loud especially, but he's one of my favorite role players to watch in the entire NBA. Just the way he plays makes everyone's life so much easier. the passing that he can handle the ball a little bit of course the most valuable asset that he provides is a spacing it's just like something that you it's one thing that you don't see too often being done at a high level coming off of the bench and so i think this would for the for a team like okay okay see thunder who have no type of veteran experience no no real veteran experience on the team at all this could help them potentially like win a playoff game at the least. Game.

Yeah. Kelly Lake all that rant. All that rants. Game. A singular game. Yeah, man. Well, that's my five trades.

We all went through five. Talked at length about some of the hottest names in the trade deadline. This is the end of the first half of the pod. You know what time it is. I don't even got to say it. You know what to do. Let's do it. Transition.

As always, we're going to start with the draft. Today we're going to get back to the draft. doing a player-based draft where you draft skills and we're going to build the perfect players with only skill sets from international players

that are in the league right now. Let's run. Let's run. I'm locked in. I had a disgusting draft on the stream. I'm ready to redeem myself. Yeah, you probably have the worst draft

in T3 history since like, at least since the early Moe days where he was just terrible every single time. You made history. You guys, you stooped down to Mo's level. Come on. Hey, what do you mean by Moes level?

What do you mean by it? wrong being in my level. Yeah, so the draft order is Mo, Donovan, me. You see, Nikiel put the flags for each of our countries where our nationalities are from. That is hilarious.

As always, body shooting, finishing, defense, passing. Only international players in league right now. Mo, where is the first pick going? The first pick is going towards passing for Luca Donchage. Okay.

All right. Probably, in my opinion, the best pass in the NBA this year. He's definitely up there. All right. That's cool. I also want to go passing. Give me Nicola Yokic passing. Oh, thank God.

Y'all are bozos. Give me Victor Wimbunyama's body. Okay. Cool. Not moved. And give me Janus Hatanekumpo is finishing. That's okay. That's fine.

Cool. I figured. I'm already in God. I figured you were going to go there. That's okay. That's okay. You figured right. It was the right choice.

Give me. Yeah, here's where I want to go. Give me. Oh, wait, no, he's already out of the boy I messed up. All right. Give me Joella B. Body. Okay. Nice.

Big heavyset. All right. Okay. Y'all got, y'all got all the good bodies out of the way. So something that I got to go ahead and do. Let's say for shooting, for finishing, give me SGA. Okay. Oh, I said that weird.

For finishing, give me SGA. My voice. For finishing the SGA. My voice. Talking to slow motion. My voice died. I heard my own echo on my head. I'm like, am I in the afterlife?

Man, had an out-of-body experience mid-pod. It's hilarious. Yeah. And then, oh, man. Okay, cool. So for defense Go in and give me O.G. Annanobi.

Okay. I got a great wing right now. You do have a good one. That's. Let's cooking so far. Let's go. For defense. Cooking.

For defense, give me Rudy Gobert. Okay. Yon. That moves. DPO Yon. You're going to have them. My turn?

Yeah. Yeah. Ooh, that I don't know who I'm gonna pick the damn Nevermind, you might have fucked me because I'm a big Okay, so Oh wait No, I'm good

For shooting, give me Lowry Markinen Damn The finish hammer Damn it, damn it, damn it, okay Yep And then you know what You know what? For defense, give me Dylan Brooks

I'm gonna be mad versatile guarding on the perimeter With Wemby's Winks, man, with Wemby's Winks, man? Nah, that's disgusting. Ladies and gentlemen, we have finally gotten it. We have finally gotten the moment that Isaac sold a draft. He took Glyn-Tripp as his defense. Dillen Brooks is a great perimeter defender. You got a perimeter defender in a big body?

Okay, manby's body. In Wemby's body, he can move. I mean, I get it, but it's like. Wemby's not a regular big. I get it, but okay. It's okay. It's okay. now y'all are trying to force

as long as it's don't let them convince you that's nasty don't let them convince you it's okay it's okay don't let them convince you I didn't build

Kevin around on steroids this is a dead Kevin Duranded girls bro relax it is okay

they're gonna try and tell you that's not raw don't listen to them let's see you messed me up because I wanted to take Laiw's shooting so

I'm sure you did for shooting give me Jamal Murray okay ooh okay that's tough that's tough that was my pick i ain't all i t go to hell but it's okay because this season i got an absolute flamethrower on my side give me boggdon boggdonovitch for shooting stupid underrated um you know man you got it you got it you got it and then for body now this is

where i'm in a tough spot right now but for body y'all got bigs i have to match up some way somehow be a little bit more nimble to give me pascal siacum okay i i think i think that fits your player very well yeah i thought you were building a guard so you're going to a big do me for a loop pascal siacum got guard skills man what are you talking about spicy p do your research okay all right anyways listen we hear these stories about michael Jordan, Anthony Edwards, having these 48-inch verticals jumping high. Imagine if Joelle and Bede could jump higher than everybody else on the floor.

For finishing, I want Jonathan Kaminga's finishing. Hmm. Okay. Does finishing give you vertical or is that in body? I get his junk package. Okay, let's do it. That's nice. I like that.

For passing, give me baby Yokic, Alperin Sengoon. Hell, baby, Yolkich. That's nice. I can't even eat. My player's cooking. I'm mobile. I'm 7 foot two. I can guard the perimeter.

I can, getting Wembe's body, such a cheat code. It's ridiculous. Yeah, it is. I wanted to get it to. And I'm like, you know what?

I got him last draft and I don't want to repeat and just beat a dead horse. So I was like, let me switch it up. So for body, I got Pascal Seacum, shooting Bogdan Bogdanovich,

finishing SGA, defense, O.G. Nirobi and passing Luca Donchich. I literally just made Prime LeBron James, bro. I don't know about that. I don't know about that. All right. Relax. Yeah, my player. I have Joellen Bede's body, Jamal Murray shooting, Jonathan Camingo finishing, Rudy Gobert defense, and Nicoli Okidge passing. This is just, this is a perfect version of Nicole Yokicch. All of his flaws. No athleticism, right? Upgraded defense. Perfect player.

I have victim women Yama's body, Larry Marketing shooting, Yonis is finishing. Dylan Brooks' defense and Sengoon's passing. It just looks like Pete KD to me, man. It's ridiculous. Here's what I need to know. Here's why I need to know about your player. Whose handles do you have? That determines a lot.

That determines every person. I guess I don't know. Where do the handles go from? Lambie, they have to. Finishing, I guess. I don't know. Who knows? Yeah.

Doesn't matter. A mix, whatever. Either way, I'm like a small forward slash power forward that's seven foot four guarding everybody I'm unstoppable until I put my shoulder into your chest under the rim do a space jam jump

20 inches into the air dunk it in your face all I'm saying is you're not stopping me because I'm 2013 LeBron over here who do you think you're out of your mind who do you think you drafted like that's that Siakum's body is giving

you the Bronhobs. Fuck out of here passing the defense the finishing the shooting you you can't there's no flaw in my game right now you're just way slower and jump way less high than prime lebron oh okay so 20 18 lebron whatever i'm still the best here you made i have wemby's body made you made you made pascal siacum who could pass like that's really what you did ew which is a great player yeah he's good he's just not like the demi got that we made he's better than yours that's all that is not true i'm seven right all right well you let us know the comments who is the best player here you know it's going to be wendy let's keep going

next thing we're going to do we're going to guess NBA players based on their jerseys all right so i'm going to show you their jersey you'll see the team the number you know the design on it will tell you some stuff and you got to guess who the player is okay let's do it interesting real simple should be fun so tell me which NBA player this is based on the jersey first off whose jersey is this oh this is this is this is kind of easy the old school or not not even Wow, I guess 10 years ago kind of is like a throwback. Fuck, you're right.

Dude, that's kind of wild. That's kind of wild. Listen, but this is a point guard who is on the phone with every NBA team, every day looking for a job. Staves grinding. This is Isaiah Thomas.

Correct. This is Isaiah Thomas. 2016 legend. That jersey was nasty, too. I'm not going to lie. It was. This is great. Apparently everybody peaked in 2016.

That was just the year to be outside. All right, next up, who is this player? Ew. Out of the top of my head, this is a new era. Could this be, man, I might look dumb, but could this be Josh Hart? You do look dumb, but not for this reason. You're correct, this is Josh Hart. Ew, why did I just know that?

God, that's gross. I need to touch grass. He looks like Anthony Ramos in this picture. I just realized that. Who? He looks like Anthony Ramos. Kind of. The actor?

Yeah, yeah. A little bit. Yep. Okay. Y'all are two for two. Next up. Who is this? Oh, I know this one.

I know this one. First of all, this is an elite Lakers Sunday white jersey. This is, this is Mr. Champion himself. Mr.

I love pandas himself. Metal world peace. Ron our test. This is his journey. Correct. This is the panda's friend. Wait, where did the panda reference come from?

I'm lost. He changed his name. His name is the panda's friend. Oh, shit, really? Yeah. Mm-hmm the more you know Moment of silence

You're not chipping up on them For those who make going hard And next up I love that song All right next jersey Who is this man? Oh my God This is peak basketball right here

I almost just exploded This peak failure basketball That's what this is Hey hey you shut your goddamn I'm just being real I'm just being real I got a PG-13 jersey right now PG-24

This is playoff P correct That's what I'm saying this is yes this is playoff This is failure basketball This is MVPPG This is peak basketball right here This is peak mixtape basketball This is 214 This is 2 or 14 against the Utah Jazz

That's what this is Listen This is getting a beat by All right guys either way All right you're correct This is Paul George This is my MVP season He was just top three and voted

Get out of here That's hilarious He was the ninth best player league in his MVP season. Shout out. That's impromptu, stood up. I thought he was about to fight me over FaceTime.

I was trying to choke you. All right, next player. Who is this? This is disgusting right here, man. This can go three ways. This can go two ways. Count of three. All right.

Really two. This is either de-wage. or Isaiah Thomas? I think it's D. Wade. Let's roll with it. We're going Dwayne Wade. Correct. This is the most downtrodden year

of Dwayne Wade's career. 2018 cabs. He does not look right in this. This picture needs to be wiped from the internet. I know it needs to see this. The FBI need to get their hands on this era. Yeah, someone called the TSA or something.

I don't know. TSA. Get out. Who called the TSA to save us? They're the cops Shit They think they're the fucking cops Next up

Who is this Now Now a casual may see this I can casual may not even know this play But a casual may see Lakers number two And think Derek Fisher But you have to understand The Nike check is there

Right the logo This is new era This is Big Ball a brand Original Lanzo Ball himself Correct 2017 Lanzo ball with the wish patch Nice Magic Johnson said his number

would be retired This jersey is nowhere near the rafters in Staples Center All right next up Who is this Who you got? Yeah This could be

Not could be This is only Andre Ugadala I concur Final one Correct This is Andre This is so easy

No way you're gonna I look you I look you forgot his number Yeah I mean I do I forget everybody's number I'm bad with numbers So I thought y'all would be like Struggling y'all are flying through this

I have no idea why I'm good at this I thought it would be Our ball knowledge is elite We prove this every year I guess he's Yeah these are nostalgic You haven't got a single one wrong yet Jesus

Alright next one Who is this player This is where we get one wrong God damn because the pisses got so many nobody's bro you don't know this huh you don't know this 23 yes come on is jaded ivy i don't know no no no no that does that

that that guess does not count for oh i know who this is this is not count for us this i know who this is stand-up comedian blake griffin yeah correct there you go come on man there we go i don't know why 2018 that's a hall of fame player for that year only He set the blueprint, bro, for players like Palo Banerro and Carlos Boozer. Carlos Bouser came before him.

How did he set the blueprint? Oh, my bad. I said Carlos Buzer. I meant to say his son. I forgot his son's first name. Fuck. His son's ridiculous right now, bro. All right.

That's the end of that segment. That's hilarious. The next thing we're going to do, we're going to bring back a segment. We've done a few times now. Deal or no deal. This time, we're going to do it around. You know, last time I did SGA, ORA Man, we're going to do Oremant to Anthony Edwards today.

Oh, man. So you know how this goes. I'm going to name you some trade packages. You tell me if you would take the deal or not, and if you would trade Anthony Edwards. Okay. Moe, understand. This is my franchise, all right? I'm not going to listen to.

Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, listen. This man right here that we're looking at has been averaging 28 points per game or the last 17 games, food, 40% from the feet. I. 17 games. What a cherry pig stat, bro. 17 games get out it's like November and December

great yeah man he's cooking as a late over the last 16 games in 22 minutes his per his per 36 is 37 points per game

get out of here all right man so first trade would you trade Anthony Edwards for Palo Van Carro and Anthony Black palo Bencaro and Cam Wilder

fuck no get out of my kid I am Cam Wilder I love your YouTube series your TikTok talk, the interim is hidden, but I can't do it. Listen. Ballot doesn't move you?

No. No, I'm okay. I'm okay. Seeing his creator league performance, shout out to you, but no. You don't think Palo is going to be as good as Anthony Edwards one day? It's a different level to this. It's a different level. He possibly could.

It won't surprise me at all because Palo's that level of talent. But we've seen too many players like Anthony Edwards in his mold. become top five. And I don't necessarily see that for Paul. I think he's more top 15 range at its peak. You got to understand. Just like, just like Marvel went from Chris Evans to Anthony Mackey. There's a new Captain America, right? We have a black Captain America and it's Anthony Edwards. This guy was leaving. He's taking the leap. He is the cornerstone of my franchise. I'm not trading him for this. Powell's great though. All right, man. Next up, would you trade Anthony Edwards for Zion Williamson and two firsts on picks? Please don't disrespect me.

Do not, do not call my phone again. Lose my number. I'm not taking the risk on Zion when I have Anthony Edwards in the building. Listen, now Zion's offense isn't centered around him. He's still good, but he ain't great. And those two firstsion pics could be valuable. But I might have to side with you, Donovan. Hang up.

Don't call my phone. It'll be tempting. It'll be a little bit tempting. Don't come by my house. How quickly. How quickly Zion. how quickly zan's reputation has fallen last year this would be a no-brainer yeah damn but this year aunt has risen again meanwhile zon's like over here averaging the same amount he's over here

averaging less points per game than calcuzma this year i didn't sign up oh my god all right next up anthony edwards for jdub and chad hongren yeah uh man this is tough jdub literally has also our potential of car of course chet could be an all-star like this year we might have to do this i'm doing this instantly no hesitation give me this package chet hongren's gonna be one of the most viable players in the league as a big who can shoot and defend the room that well and jdub's legitimately going to be an all-star as well thank you for your input get the fuck out my front office i'm not doing this if you don't do this you are an anthony edwards eater i don't care you are a munch Call me a munch, call me

You are glazed on it. Call me one of the boys who make a fan page. I don't care with what it is. You are making it shine. That's great. No, that's a spit shine right there. It's crazy. Oh, spit shine is hilarious, man.

So big a sign of God. I'm crying right now. Oh, my God. All right. Next up. Anthony Edwards for Tariz Halliburton. Now, this is the hardest one right here. It is hard.

It is hard. It is hard. It is hard. know just because they're both elite they both have extremely high ceilings i feel like it would be a lateral move i'm sticking with anne i feel like tyrese is more of a finished and he's closer to reaching his peak already and he's already one of the three best players in my opinion at his position and aunt is that too i guess but i don't know i really don't know this is hard i'm torn Take it.

Take it. I'm a lead Tyrese for this one. They're honestly on the same level. It's like, who do you think has a, who do you think would contribute to winning on a championship team more? Who can you build a contender around better? Man, this is tough.

This is tough. Because I've seen it in the playoffs already. We haven't seen Tyrese Halliborne that's pending. I want to, I want to be different. Give me Tyrese Halliburton. I want to be different. Nice. me Tyrese

All right We got a split decision All right That's the end of that Those are the four trades we had Damn We got a nice little mix in there I can't believe Zion

It's such a no brainer for no How quickly he's falling man That is That genuinely makes me sick to my stomach Just hearing that dude Alright next thing we're gonna do You guys are gonna blind rank Some big men

I love a good blind ranking You guys are horrible at it We'll see if you at this time You guys can redeem yourself Make a good list Listen blind ranking is only about Who's given the list right You can't you can't predict

You can't predict what's coming next You know This is Listen this time It's a slideshow Then the kill has pulled up So there's no me rigging it I can't change the player at the end

There's no you can't accuse me A tomfoolery The names I picked are already on there So we'll see where we go You're still a bad person Exactly You always want to us to lose. Let us show you.

All right, guys. Blind rank, these NBA big men. First off, Rudy Gobert. What are you thinking about three? He's perfect three. Yeah. He's perfect three. I don't think he'll finish that four.

That's four or five. He's one of the seven best big men off the top of my head roughly. So specific. I mean, it's true though. Listen, D.P.O.Y level of defense. No bag offensively. Right there in the middle. I think three's fair.

Okay. Yeah. So nice number, good logic. All right. Number three. Next up. DeAndre. This man couldn't get through a pile of snow to make the game.

Put him at six, eight, ten. No, listen. Listen, he could get through. He was not trying to play. He called in sick. Put him at five. Put him at five. He's just like me.

I would just like that. Thanks. I love not working. And to get paid to not work? Oh, he's just like me for real. He achieved his goals, man. Fags. At number five?

Yeah. Next up, Anthony Davis. I'm leaving this up to you, Mo. I'm recusing myself from this ranking. Regardless of what I say, you might throw a dart at my neck, but I might want to put him at one. I told you put him wherever you want. I'm not answering him at one. This list is cooked if he either put Joel or Yolk it's on their end.

I don't know if he'll dare do that. This is where I say Isaac might be a bad person. I don't know. Which way are you going to risk it? I'm putting him at one. I'm putting him at one. I don't think there's going to be a better one. I'll be sick to my stomach, though.

All right. Next player. Bull, bowl. Oh, my God. We got to put Bobo at four, I guess, at this point. But, hey, listen, at least it's more fun to watch sometimes. Just the potential of Bobo.

10 out of time. I'd rather watch a bowl play than DeAndre. Bobo's fun to watch when you think about what Bobo probably plays like. When you actually watch him, you're like, oh, my God, get him off the fucking court. But the idea. Who is this reindeer? Get him off the court. He could be 30 years old.

Shaq's still going to be like, this guy was wimby before wemby. It's just the idea. He needs the opportunity. He likes to. Exactly. I like seeing, I like seeing Bobo. Try to. It's funny.

I like seeing him run around out there. All right, Bobo number four. Next up at number two, Julius Randall. list was a W, in my opinion. I love this shit. There we go. We did a good job. Goberra. Oh, wait. Actually, I lied. No, no. Rudy Gobert was at number three.

And you put Boe Bowl over Aiton. No one cares about it. Also, question. I thought we were ranking centers. I said Big Man. This guy. See, this is why we call you a bad man. Did you put four centers on here through a pile

forward? I never said centers. I said Big Man. What does it matter? bad guy the word said it was never said I explicitly wrote big men to leave it open for fours and five I'm gonna have to start just like that because we need a host for some integrity around here you see how it is and just like that y'all we have our annual Isaac versus donovan argument part 54 and once again it's over absolute nonsense exactly the most and unimportant thing ever it's over it's over next thing we're gonna do Let's talk about some basketball, man.

Let's get serious. We're doing all this bullshit, all this blind rankings. Let's get down to the nitty grade. It's analyze some shit. I'm going to name two NBA players, and you guys aren't to tell me which one you would rather build your franchise around. Sounds good to do it. Long-term view.

Who is going to help you win a championship for your organization? GMOs in the building. First up, John Morant or Devin Booker. It has to be job. This is hard. No, it's not hard. It's not hard. Oh, it's John Moran.

It's John Morin. Like, yeah. Why is that so easy? We all think him book is a better player right now. For sure. Jamret is still so young in his NBA career. And literally the only thing that is keeping him from being considered as a top three point guard in the league is Instagram Lodge. Like that's the only thing that's keeping in there.

When he's on the floor, the grizzlies are different. We've seen the grisies be legitimate contenders and their downfall is either him on IG live or him getting hurt. I'm picking John Morant. We're talking about the best shooting guard in the league. We're not talking about some scrub. That's already like past his prime. He's like 26. Yeah, another layer on top of it. I think when I think of these two players, I think that John Morant will go down. He has a chance to go down in NBA history. He's one of the best at his position. He'll bring to someone like Devon Booker. He could do the same thing. But one of the ones. best in his position ever? Yeah, John Moray has opportunity to, for sure, because he's younger

and lose your time on the side. There's the math. All right, whatever. I didn't know Magic. I didn't know this is Magic Johnson. I'm going Devon Booker. Wow. Is it clear as day for you? No, it's close, but better defensive player, better score, very underrated passer. I think he fits almost any team construction.

I don't know why. Devin Booker's a great player. We're forgetting that he's top 10 just because the team is struggling due to poor roster construction. Yeah, Devin Booker's incredible. But show me a highlight where John Moran or where Devin Booker put his nuts on someone's chest. You can't. You lost. All right.

Well, fair enough. Not enough bodies were got, my bad. Next up, Nicole Yokic or Luca Donchich. See, this is what I love. The battle with the Swaggy White Boys, which are you going with? Why don't white crime? Here we go. this is tough logically it makes sense to go luka because he's younger but i still want to go

towards yokech because he's one of in my opinion like he can he's going to retire as one of the 13 best players ever luka has a little bit of ways to go i'm so i'm yeah i don't hate you i don't hate you for picking luka because i think he also has like a crazy all-time ceiling but listen we know yokech peak of his powers now can win you championship in a year i don't know why you wouldn't go with that yeah i'm going to Yochich. Yeah, I'm going, I'm going with with Yokish too. Also, because of all the stuff that you said, but also, vibes are just better with Yokich. So, I'm going, I'm going that way. And I know for a fact, he'll make any player around him better and plenty of players can

fit alongside him, Luca TBD. He has the ball on his hands a lot. Yeah, exactly. I agree. I agree. All right. Next up, Victor Wimonyama or Shea Gilder's Alexander. I got to take Wimby. I got to take. It's not, it's not even a question. Finally, a question where you don't put... Never mind. What? If you know, you know. If you know, you know.

Finally, I found a question where we don't have to slob off Shea. Give me Wimby. Yeah, no. There's only one player or maybe two players in the NBA where you have to reevaluate with yourselves. Really three. But, yeah, I'm taking Wemby. Nine times out of ten.

I'm taking Wemby ten times. He's so... She's awesome. Going to be a top five player probably. It's so clear that Wemby's going to be the best player in the league one day It's got to be him I think Shay's creeping his way to top five like right now He's like top number five or number six

But Wembe has a predictus to be one of the best ever Play play play period And Shay see me 18 months 18 months in Wembe might be a top three player in the league Like it's going to be ridiculous And we're not going to know how to address those conversations I will know how to address them I would tell you he's top 10

Like it's just it's just going to be fat I promise you It'll be very easy for me to say it I won't hold it back It won't be hard Next up Ched Holmgren or Zion Williamson

And I hate to go I have no faith In building my franchise Around Zion Williamson Give me Chad Holmgren Wow I'm no faith Yeah I think peak for peak

Zion can still I think Zion can still Recover and have a crazy good peak But just for the reliability factor Chet is so much safer For a bet to build long term around he missed an entire season though

okay and Zion has missed that times four his seasons what do you want for me you're right I'm playing devil's advocate

I think I would listen the devil don't need no advocate give me give me chelh give me 2% of me

want to lean towards Zahn because I know that potential is unforeseen I think gone but it's gone it's gone

yeah give me chet's biggest issue so far has been Braun stepping on his foot and breaking that bitch. Zion has much bigger issues. Much, much bigger. He's the issue.

Sotas are the issue. Next up. Scotty Barnes or La Mello Ball. This is not as easy as many people think at all. I have one question. It's not easy whatsoever. I have one question. Where is my franchise?

What city? What city? Good question. Let's call it somewhere very neutral. Indiana. Indiana? all right listen they care about basketball there

give me Scotty Barnes give me Scotty Barnes if it was a place what if I would have said Los Angeles if it was an LA Atlanta or one or New York or something like that you got to go

what if I would have said the Lakers Scotty Barnes yeah what? No you ought to go Lamello what did you need to hear then to pick Lamello

what were you looking for like a Washington or Utah I need somebody if I need somebody who could sell tickets I'm going with La Mello ball But if I'm going with the city

That already knows basketball Is trying to win championships Give me Scotty Barnes Yeah I mean I think Scotty Barnes It's clearly better right now But Lamello has had no time to But Lamello has had no time to develop

No real supporting cast next to him No moves to make that supporting cast better He has a lot of untapped potential That I think in a few years we could look back And be like we were really underrating Lamello The Manklewe's weak though Yeah Yeah I agree

Scotty, but I don't hate you if you go Lamello. Yeah, I think I might lean Lamello. But that's just Very fair. Yeah. Oh, he's going to be great. Anybody who's selling Lamello stock, call me up. I'm buying. There we go.

There we go. Next up. Trey Young or Deeran Fox? Give me Deer Fox. Damn, no hesitation. I'm taking D. That's quick a shit. I'm taking D.R. Fox.

Okay, explain. I have... Hater, but go ahead, explain it. It's not a hater. I've seen, listen, I've seen both teams or I've seen both players in fairly decent, like, situations recently. I think that Trey Young, while great, has some extreme limitations on him to build a championship team, while I think that you can build a more complimentary team around D.N. Fox. I would say you're not wrong for that.

It's a lot easier to build around. someone like Dearen Fox, but the ceiling for a Tray Young team may be higher, but at the same time, it's going to be so tough to build a team around him, considering his playstyle and size. Yeah, I mean, you just pair him with like Victor Woman Yama or something, then it'll be great. Then they'll be great.

Yeah. You're pairing with the best defender in the world, and you're straight. Yeah, if you pair them with one of the future 10 best players of all time, yeah, like you win. Yeah, they were cooking. Yeah. I guess it's fair to go, Deer & Jaron Fox.

Less question marks there. Trey has the ceiling, but you have really no doubts building around Dier and Fox. You know if you surround him with the right talent. He's not going to be any type of negative for you. Exactly. His only issue was that he was in Sacramento for years. Yeah. With that being said, I'm still taking Trey.

Of course you are. Right or die over here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're making it shine again. God. To the soil. That's into that segment. Next thing we're going to do, we're just something funny before we get out of here.

we're going to do we're going to react to NBA hair swaps and we're going to rate them from one to 10. Let's go the same thing that people know us for we're going to rate hair right yeah we're going to talk about some hair

exactly yeah beard hair head hair I'll stop there we're going to rate some hair show me the hair please to kill so rate these NBA

hair swaps from one to ten first off Michael Jordan with the braids is this Travis Scott is that this is crazy he looked like he and AAU right now dude

I ain't go like to you no way this is just Anthony Edwards bro let's cut the bullshit from last year I'm God but his name is Jaden with the Y

oh a hundred percent Jaden and Jalen he might be too dark for that. I'm not going to lie. I'll get this a good eight. It looks I'll get this a good eight. It looks natural. Yeah. He looks like he looks like Lamar Jackson too. Oh shit.

Right. That's so foul and correct. No, I'll give this in there too. I like this. Yeah. Nice. I will say this is the most normal one we're going to get the whole time. I hope you enjoyed it while lasted. All right. Next up. Nicole Yolkich with the dreads This man is on the beach selling folks Bud on the low every single night

Oh my God Yokic What happened to you buddy He reeks Yeah he smells like ass too There's never been a white man with dreads That doesn't smell a little interesting I'm speechless I have no idea what to say to this

This is crazy Yokits you lost all dignity man Please don't go this way ever. Whoever Photoshop this? You did my glorious king so dirty. I got to give a zero. It's a white guy with dread.

It's an honor mag zero. And I know he has some hidden disgusting tattoos under that jersey too with that Sarah. I just know it. I just know it. He's got a rick and morning tattoo on his chest. Yeah. It's all colored all types of ways too.

It's gross. The eyes are all red. Yeah. Every day his diet is like week old pizza. I know this man. This is a shaggy from Scooby-Doo. Facts. This is a zero to me too.

Next up, Zion Williamson and Brandon Ingram hair swapped. Bro, Zion Williamson looks like, like Mike. He looks like Calvin Cambridge. I was going to say, he looks like he's playing for Coach Carter. Straight out of him. He looks like the smoothest motherfucker in a building. Oh my God. This is a look, Zee.

This is a look. This just made me realize how bad Zion Williams' haircut is, though, because what the fuck is on Brandon Ingram's head? What is on his head? What type of fate is that? That's a 2K default haircut. You put the designs on the side? He's a my player.

This is what Isaac's my player looks like on 2K. On mine? What the fuck? Except his hair is green. That's the difference. I'm giving Zion a 6 and Ingram a 2. Yeah, Zine looks like a great person.

He looks like a 6, 7, whatever. But Ingram just looks like a bastard. I don't know what it is. He looks like a terrible kid. He's a grown-ass man I just imagine him I just see this haircut and envision what he's gonna look like

what he looked like when he was younger he was one in him kids with the silver cap in his mouth All right next up Trey Young with Luca Dodgers his hair This is This looks like a European man Who makes the finest dress shoe I just

Perfect No he looks like he He looks like a shoe salesman for sure He looked like one of my Dominican homies I swear to God He looks like he talks He does this a lot A lot of hand motion

He's saying it looks like Luigi He does kind of This man loves Formula One I can tell That's what he's Plus the little smirk that he has going on Oh yeah Now this hair is a cocky ass smirk too

No it's French as fuck He looks French This guy has got a little bignets. You don't play about his hair routine either. What do we give this? I'm going to give this a five because this could be a real person. Yeah, it's realistic. And it's not bad.

It's not good either. I can fucking four, I guess. Right. Yeah. I'm going to give us five. Next up. We got Luca Donchish with Trey Young's hair. First of all, he got a beanie that's been through it on his head.

He don't even look real. Listen, the NBA photographers, they need to be nicer. They need to tell Luca, you might want to retake this picture because he looks crazy in this. Yeah, it's crazy eyes for sure. For no reason. It looks like he has no teeth to. Listen, that plus Tray Young's hair, just L, L, L. this is a zero.

He would hate like in his life like this for real. When I see looking like this, I almost want to reach that out of my pocket and donate him a dollar. I don't know why. It just don't look like. It looks like someone to send him with some surprise. information that he wasn't ready to process yeah looks like he's been like nuggy to death with that hair what if that's what happened to trao what if he just got nugget to death and that's why stay that way forever that would

explain a lot that would make sense did damage all right next up Anthony Davis and LeBron James swapped first of all Andy Davis looks exactly like Rudy Gaubert yeah I was gonna say that too that's That's just Rudy Robert. That's just the greatest defender of all time. Two, LeBron looks straight out of the 80s. Just not a clean lineup, hair everywhere, light afro. Is the 80s of Rudy?

I just see him digging and vibing. Yeah, LeBron looks like he's having a time of his life. That's a cool cat right there. Fex. LeBron is a member and Run DMC. Run DMC. Now I was kind of thinking more, he is a member of the Black Panthers. I see that right there.

I can see that. I can see that. Put a beret on that. He got to put that six, seven, six, eight body to the use. I see Anthony Davis and I just see like a member of the U.S. Army. I don't know why. I look in those eyes and I just see a soldier. I see a commander, to be honest with you.

You know, sort of that big, soldier that big. He kind of looks like a regular person too, though. He looks so regular. I feel like I can see him at the gym. Listen, that's just drew walls without waves. Like, that's what that is. He's making target runs. Yeah.

Send up his tripod 80 times to go sniff flowers. That's him. I could have treated you better, but no. Drake is on his playlist for sure. Not at all. I know someone watching this right now looks exactly like AD. So damn. He was like a TD3 fan.

Next up. Meta World Peace with Joe Kim Noah hair. Oh, he looks crazy as fuck. He looks like he'll try to bite me, bro. He looks crazy. Biting him is a crazy allegation. The funniest part is

he has a ball, George forehead, low-ass hairline. He just looks crazy, man. He just is a one finger. He'll put one finger between his eyebrows and his hairline. What's funny, though, is that if his hair could grow this long, I'm

a thousand percent sure he would have rocked it like this one year. Facts. It fits him so well. Ron Artes. The vibe matches entirely right. Next up,

Chris Ball with the swoop over. Oh, he looks like Jimmy Buller's best friend. He wants to be Jimmy Butler so bad.

This man is my chemical romance fan from day one. Go in touch with his emotions. Hit it again, Mo. Hit it again.

What song is he listening to? Bro, pick any emo song you want. I got on to play this right now. Let's do it.

You're not going to sing it for us? No, not tonight. I need some water. I probably soiled a bit. All right, John, I'm doing with the habit you be. No, this is, I've seen this guy at Hot Topic

at my local library. He's never happy before. Yeah, it looks like he's, oh my God, the hot topic, shit, you're right. He's always offering some type of discount off 30% every time. You're right. He's selling attack on Titan merch. He's not having to his life.

Listen, Chris Paul, we only see it from the chest up. He's wearing the skinniest of skinny jeans and bands with holes in him because he's been skating all day. And you can't forget the little metal chain attached to his pants too. And the spiky belt.

Spiky belt is hilarious. He goes a lot of this, throws his hair to the side. he might be a weirder he might have the little furry tail on this on this keychain too this is a four that's hilarious yeah next this is this is four next one carmello anthony I almost didn't know who this was oh my god this is somebody's pop singer that's what this is this is hall of notes I don't know people know that but that's that's deep bro

No, that's a rock star for sure. Oh, yeah. I'm just looking at him like, damn, this is a whole different person. Yeah, he literally, I said, Trey Young looked in making. No, this dude looks like someone's old Dominican dad for sure. It doesn't look bad though. I'll give it an eight. It looks solid.

He kind of looks like what I imagine a young Carlos Boozer looking like. You said Carlos Boozer twice in this pod now. You're just Carlos Boozer on the mind. Look, man, I just got done watching some highlights like four hours. What can I say? Of Carlos Boozer? Leave me alone Leave me alone

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Yeah Carlos Boozer highlights are crazy This motherfucker watching Carlos Boozer highlights I'm a fan of ball If you don't know Yeah See y'all 8 p.m. Monday

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