The Deep 3 Podcast - Everything We've Learned From NBA Summer League | TD3 Live
Episode Date: July 16, 2025Breaking down this week's batch of NBA news! #nba Support the stream: https://streamlabs.com/thedeep3pod Today we react to all the latest NBA news! Check out the TD3 merch: https://the-deep-3-shop....fourthwall.com/ Join the TD3 discord!: https://discord.gg/RUkjpMPp7E Listen on Spotify!: https://open.spotify.com/show/3elbbqVumwqz8wlIdknsLW Listen on Apple Podcasts!: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-deep-3-podcast/id1657940794 Follow us on TikTok!: https://www.tiktok.com/@thedeepthree Follow us on Instagram!: https://www.instagram.com/thedeep3podcast/ Isaac's twitter: https://twitter.com/byisaacg Muhamed's twitter: https://twitter.com/Mojo99_ Donnavan's twitter: https://twitter.com/Dsmoot3D Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Damn, you guys missed it.
Dude.
Donald just said the most heinous thing ever.
Once again, shout out to my papaya and Brian for bringing it home.
Ace and Shirley, the crowd should have been y'all's, but you know, people were hating.
This is the worst season of Love Island of all time.
Listen, because they were clearly the strongest couple.
Ace was scheming from the get-go.
He was out here sleeping.
Chris was out here sleeping in soul ties.
On the finale.
What are we doing?
What are we doing?
This is not the TV we signed up for us
But y'all wanted this to happen
Because y'all wanted Hurricane Hoodah for good TV purposes
Now look
Now look what happened
You think Huda was there for TV purposes?
She was there
17 year olds around the country identified with her
And they said this is my girl
That's why she was there
She has a cult following of straight teenagers
No man
So it's that the Love Island method is not patched
Appreciate y'all coming through
You guys hear us talking about
That's free game by the way
That's free game, by the way.
Understand. Beyond the Villa is out every Thursday.
That's free game.
That's free game.
But I can't say too much.
You understand?
Yeah, listen, there's been no basketball on.
We've had to resort to putting our attention to the other league, the villa.
But that's over now, too.
So we're here to talk about the NBA Summer League, talk about NBA news going on, regular
stuff, the whole standard TD3 live stream happening in the off season.
We're going to take a break eventually sometime in this off season.
But for now, we're still here kicking it.
talking about the news.
Appreciate everybody coming through.
Yeah.
Somebody said that was nostalgic for silent movies.
That was good.
So you guys know how this works.
We're going to start off talking about the biggest news stories a week.
They were going to talk about Summer League and do our whole little regular run of show.
Before we get there, we have to talk about the number one new story of the week.
What was your guys the reaction to this picture of Johnny Furphy?
I said something very specific to you guys during the NBA draft.
Actually, it was before the draft stream.
And I can't say it on camera, but this proves to my.
my exact point.
Yeah.
That's all I can say.
I have no fucking clue
what you're talking about,
but this is quite the picture.
At first,
you got tased in midair.
At first,
I thought it was fake at first.
Because I didn't,
I didn't see the actual clip,
so I just saw like the picture
going on.
I was like,
there's no way.
Somebody actually made this face
while getting dunked.
There's no way.
This is like a real picture.
It's Noah Senge, man.
We're going to see
a good amount of weird faces from him.
He has to retire now.
like there's and what's what's crazy he actually had a good game like we're going to talk about it later
but this is instantly probably going to be the biggest thing of his career he's never going to
live this down you have to win like five championships five all live down one bad picture this is
one eyes bigger than the other wide open tongue out bro while he's getting destroyed from behind
to by johnny furfee this is just like so discombobvially shout out johnny furfew
man. The dunk was ridiculous. I don't got to pull it. I'll find it. What a crazy highlight for
Summer League. Like I honestly, I don't remember a single play Johnny Firf who did last year in the
regular season. Not so much burn. But we got this. You got this going forward. You have that.
Yeah. It's, oh my goodness. Someone said, where's iPad Mo? That's a good question. Where's
iPad Mo? You didn't come prepared today? They thought I went somewhere. They thought like I'm
like it? Absolutely not. It's just not in my hands right now because we just started off the
stream. But trust and believe I'm here. My superpowers are right here. I never come unarmed.
What the fuck? I think I'm lacking?
Are you dumb, stupid?
What fuck?
I dare you.
Never caught locking.
So, next thing we got to talk about.
An actual new story here is, it's important, but less important than, oh, we got deleted.
The betting on us think I deleted.
What was it?
Oh, wait, here it is, never mind.
Still here.
They just redo it.
Okay, modally important, less important than Johnny Furfrey dunking on OSenge.
But the Mavericks are now, the new favorites to land LeBron James, per bovada.
They are the favorites above the heat, the calves, the Warriors, and the Knicks.
there's been lots of smoke brewing
about this whole LeBron James situation
all these ESP reporters keep throwing fuel on the fire
talking about how he wasn't informed of the sale
he wasn't given the same treatment as Luca Donchette
all this stuff that
who knows what's true and what's not true
but there's been a lot of smoke brewing about potentially
the Mavs getting in on it of all the teams contacting the Lakers
obviously we know there's a lot of stuff in the way
preventing a LeBron James trade from being done
one we don't know if he wants to be traded for real
two he makes a lot of money three he might have
one or two years left in the league who knows
but if there is an instance
sports all the worst case scenarios for lakers fans do happen and he is traded do you guys buy
the mavericks might be interested yes i buy i buy that the mavericks are interested in basically
anything but this is fake sorry it's not happening zero chance as a number one or maybe number
three or four fan of the lebron james committee this is not happening on my watch i refuse to let this
happen bro how weird would it be to have someone like lebron traded to the most random team like the
Dallas Mavericks.
We were talking about it earlier on our walk, bro, do you think the NBA would actually
allow the NBA would actually allow LeBron to be a part of Dallas Maverick?
Yeah.
Why?
It depends with the packages.
Like if Nico, like, if they traded Cooper flag from LeBron straight up, then like.
That Adam Silver would kill Nico Harrison.
If that was going to be a thing, snipers on the roof.
Yeah, at that point, it's like you and John T. Porter ban for life.
Yeah.
Like, you're clearly messing with the money.
But if it's like, you know, some filler, if it's like Gafford and P.
get Washington or whatever, like, okay, I guess.
So what if it's like lively Clay and PJ Washington?
Like, as a LeBron fan, obviously I'm a Lakers fan.
I have mixed feelings.
We can talk about that.
But you said as the LeBron fan, you wouldn't want to see him play for a random team
like the Mabbs?
You don't want to see him, Karee and AD, his two best sidekicks teamed up with him
again and his 20 years.
It would be, genuinely, they would be, the Mazzar already good as is in place, but
insert LeBron's names and that ethos as well alongside Karee, alongside Anthony
Davis, Derek Lively, Daniel Gafford, Noggi.
This team is deep as hell.
They have so many bodies and names and they can play so many ways in the Western
conferences.
They're like one of the Stutley different teams.
But just like career wise, career storyline wise, seeing him just go out to the most, this is
very much like 20 Parker to the Charlotte Hornets type deal, type beat.
It's like why are we even doing this right now?
I understand like they might have a good chance to win.
But it just doesn't feel right because of the politics of going on over there in Laker
Navy.
So I don't like it.
Chad, where do you guys want to see LeBrongo if you were to leave Lakers?
Do you want to see him stand in Lakers or?
all these teams on scurray now is there one you specifically want to see all right so what's on
here so we got the mavericks which obviously like the mavericks and the nix would probably
be the best or you know the caps depending on like what what the package was but maves would be
a great situation Miami he'd just be down there just to hang out going to say he'd be out there
just because I don't know if you guys saw the video he posted a video of him playing golf last week
it would just be him instead hanging out playing golf if he went to the wars those are
they're not winning a championship if that happens.
So you have that.
Again, the Knicks, depending on the package, you can win a championship there.
You can do that.
And then Cleveland, you also win a championship there.
So it's, it's fair.
But I'm with you.
I don't want to see.
I don't want to see this.
You want to see Journeyman, LeBron?
LeBron getting traded?
That's crazy.
And honestly, I feel like that's probably the main reason that's not happening.
Because I think the ESPN reporters are kind of just yapping a little bit about how, like,
he's not being informed of all these things.
Are they icing them out?
I think they're doing a little bit,
a little much for it to be entertaining.
But I do buy that maybe he's frustrated
and there is some truth of that.
They're probably exaggerating the levels
in which the Lakers are icing him out.
But I do buy that it would make sense
that he wants to leave.
As soon as a Lugganche's thing happened,
we're like, okay, there's a world in which
this doesn't go the way for LeBron
with him no longer being the priority
that you could see if he was younger,
he would say, okay, time for a new fucking situation.
But I do think, one, he wants to retire
and have the chapter end cleanly in L.A.
Two, I think for what you said,
he probably doesn't want to get traded.
That probably looks a way
to somebody who clearly is at the very end of their legacy.
They've perfectly curated over the years,
getting traded to the Dallas Mavericks
for the last year and a half of your career, two years?
Like, that's a weird way to end it.
Yeah, and it's not like you're coming from the Cleveland Caval.
You are coming from the most storied franchise
in the NBA history, in the Lakers.
And to do all of that and then have you and your homie,
you and AD both traded to the Mavericks,
on one hand, it's like, wow, you traded on another.
you can kind of spin in be like yeah here goes lebron again scheming up everything like he got traded
him and his friend like whatever but it just doesn't it doesn't feel right for lebron to to be traded
but also hey man he's 41 this is kind of what happens to old dudes in the league and it happens
all the time where people like get moved and if the lakers feel like you can get an actual decent
you know return for it then that's fine i just don't think that the return is going to be all that
Like, Katie went for Jalen Green, the 10th overall pick, and Dylan Brooks.
If you can get more than that, okay, fine.
I don't know how many teams are actually going to do that.
Yeah.
And to be fair, I'm only putting this on here to talk about because it's fun.
This is Bovada who does this just because they see rumors online of people talking about
like, ooh, are the Mavericks going to get in on him?
So they throw this on here to get some bedding action.
Don't take it behind the curtain.
I understand.
So I say, as I say, LeBron's not going to the Mavs.
I don't think.
You never know, but I think this is mostly bullshit.
but it's fun to talk about
what if it wasn't bullshit
Yeah
Yeah
What if this thing
That was fake was real
Yeah
Wouldn't that be fun
Wouldn't that be interesting
What is real
Is real is the way
those swears
What about handing
their off season
And what is real
Is this comment from Wembe
He says
Whenbion under the Spurge
Should have gone all in
To acquire a start
This off season
Quote unquote
Breaking up a Young Corps
For a single player
Rarely works
I want the Spurge
To be a balanced team
They've been the masters
of that in the past
So you know
There's been a lot of talk
About like
Should they get Kevin Durant
Should they try
get a lot of marketing.
Should they try and get Yonis if it becomes available?
All this stuff, everybody wants the spurs to make a big leap and really accelerate their
timeline.
Apparently, Wembe is perfectly happy with sitting back and letting the team develop naturally.
What do you all think?
Smart.
I mean, over the last few years, he is right.
Historically, I mean, making an all-in move for certain stars usually works.
But over the last few years, clearly, like, we've seen that hasn't been the case.
And there's been time and time again, look at all the teams Katie's been on, the broken
that's the phoenix suns it just almost never it almost never works sorry it almost never
i just can't believe like look at the way's mouth is just sideways right i don't know if i would react
like that if i got dunked on too i wouldn't i'll walk off midgame take off my jersey so
what you're saying about the spurs anyways when it comes to the spurs when it comes to the spurs
all they do is just make good decisions and I trust them overall when it
stop yeah I just I trust them and it makes sense when it comes to someone like
whenby making his final decision or saying going out and saying this and telling folks
yeah bro like I'm cool over here he just got zined out he was with the monks in them
and he was super chilling so hey man
Okay.
What do we start, bro?
What's going on me?
It's an epidemic going on, man.
Sorry.
Yeah, so this first spot, the Spurs probably should take their time.
It's good to see that when it was bought in on this interest in to see him talk about it.
I feel like a lot of players typically wouldn't talk about it in this candidative way, but cool.
Shout out the ridiculous young core they're building.
We'll talk about it later with the Summer League shining, shining stars.
But Carter, Brian, defensively, noticing.
Very excited for this young core after I'm seeing the plays he's making on the defensive end.
Yeah, I think also it's, I also feel like it's kind of easy to feel like this when you've already acquired Deer and Fox.
Yeah, yeah, you already got the start.
You know, so like going forward, it's like, yeah, we don't have to go all in for, for Janus.
I'm here.
Deerrant's here.
all like we have we have the pieces he's already played with stephan so that's cool he's
going to be back right he's i think he just got cleared from from the blood clots and everything so
the spurs the west is going to be like interesting but they they are still like a year away
from being like actual contenders in the western conference we've talked about a lot in terms
of their debt needing a lot of work and figure it out how your number two overall pick is
going to play with your rookie of the year from last year and the point guard that you
you just traded for midway through last season.
So you have some stuff to figure out before it makes sense to really do like this all in
move.
Yeah.
Laora number 23 in the chat said,
Isaac, I have a question for you.
If you could trade LeBron for Garland, would you?
No way, he said it.
If you could trade Bronn for your daddy garland, would you?
Fucking, duh.
I would absolutely trade the Bron for Garland.
Dude, that's a nasty fit.
You would do that with Austin Reeves, Luke and Garcy.
Yeah, then I would ship one of them out, probably Austin Reeves.
But if I could trade LeBron for a 24-year-old all-old.
And you're picking me.
Also, Reeves and Luca, get out of you.
I mean, Reeves are Carly.
He wants to flip him.
I probably flip Garland, actually, again in the future.
Or Rees, if there's a good deal available.
But if I could get a 24-year-old all-star for LeBron James, yes.
Immediate, yes.
That'd be amazing.
Next new story.
Miami Heat Guard, Terry Rozier, has not been cleared of any wrongdoing
and remains under federal investigation on potential gambling probe.
League sources tell Chris Haynes.
Fed is still watching.
They're not gone.
That's all after this.
Fed is still watching.
This is easily, like,
When it comes to lower tier, lower swing trades and the NBA, when this first happened, a year ago, whatever it's been now, we were also like, wow, bro, look at Miami, making all the right moves around the edge.
Yeah, they might go ahead and swing and miss and miss after a star.
But when it comes to getting the low tier hits like this or Kyle Arr from a few years ago or whatever it might be, we were all like, thumbs up.
You gave little to nothing.
I think they gave a first-round pick or something like that for Terrosier.
And just to see it like, wop like this.
Yeah, shout out Scary Terry.
Damn.
Bag chaser.
Damn, man.
Don't say that.
You can't put that on him right now.
This is real life.
I don't know if we can or not.
I don't know what we can put on him right now.
Why have my screen just go out?
Hold on.
Oh, wow.
It's just the TV.
Okay, we're good.
Yeah, we're good.
It's just our visual.
Cole Anthony has agreed to a buyout with the Grizzlies
and plans to sign with the Bucks after he cleared.
There's waivers.
I love this so much for the Milwaukee Bucks.
Obviously, the Bucks are the most, like, talent depleted team in the league when it comes
to young guys who have, who can, like, earn a real rotation in this league and, like, make
a myriad of levels of impact on the court.
Col Anthony has one of those young guys in general who just is, it's hard for him to find
his spot in the league.
And this is the exact type of, like, throw in the river that.
that the Milwaukee books need.
Yeah, yeah, this, why not, right?
He's available to dart throw.
They need talent injection.
He's had some good years.
A couple years ago before they got Palo Van Caro
when they were tanking really hard.
He had some solid performances
on a higher usage.
He would say decent enough slasher
he could play make a little bit.
Mostly a on-ball score.
He has the juice, like you say,
he hasn't necessarily been needed
because he can't shoot
and he is an on-ball player.
And he's small too.
Yeah.
So once you get Franz and Palo de door,
he's just been diminished
more and more year-by-year,
as minutes going down.
Nothing to be lost swinging for the fences here with him, but I don't know.
I feel like the bucks have kind of cornered the market this summer on deals where you say,
oh, I like that guy.
And then it probably will do absolutely nothing to make them a contender again.
That's how you win the offseason.
That's how you win the off season for the way the Phoenix Suns won the offseason in the past couple years.
They're like, I like Tadius Jones.
That's a solid move around the edges.
And then their team identity changes exactly 0%.
It doesn't matter, though.
You have to win the offseason.
You have offseason, summer league, regular season playoffs.
Those are the four things that you can win.
Maybe in the middle, if you have players that are actually good, you can go to the all-star
game, win a skills challenge, right?
And win a skills challenge, right?
Win a three-point competition.
The Bucks have none of that, right?
So they have to win the off-season.
And this is all they have to look forward to.
All they have is can we sign, can we sign guys with the minimum over and over and over again?
And it's okay.
I think that for, like for them, and they kind of got through it.
last year with KPJ, do you really want to rely on that?
Now, I can double back with that and say, do you really want to rely on
Corey Anthony?
But they got to rely on somebody.
Somebody has to go out there and just take shots and just try and take bucket.
So we'll see.
But it's not a terrible deal.
Yeah, I also don't think anything on a minimum can be like a terrible deal.
Yeah, it's certainly not a bad deal at all.
It's just like doesn't move the needle.
I don't know.
They have nothing to lose in general.
So just taking hell of swings, man.
One of them going to hit, at least are praying that would
of him hits.
Jaylon Green was at NBA Summer League and he was asked about the trade to the Phoenix
Sons.
He said,
we're going to surprise a lot of people and make a lot of noise.
On the trade,
he said, it hurts.
Houston is home to me and will forever be a home to me.
I'm playing Devon Booker.
He said, me and him are going to be a deadly scoring duo.
Brother, I got some bad news for the day.
How deadly of a scoring duo will this be?
I got some bad news for him, too.
They sold his house already.
That is not home.
That is not home.
They were okay to move on.
Is this going to be a top 10 deadly scoring duo in the NBA next year?
Yes.
It will be number 10?
Yes.
Deadly.
Precisely, precisely.
The deadly scoring duels only come from guys who themselves think, oh, I'm a bag, he's a bag, yeah.
We're like that.
And then, like, it really doesn't matter how many points you score or how many games you win.
Can you be the bagman of the NBA?
And I think that Devin Booker and Jaylen Green have an opportunity to be the best bagman.
Obviously, we've like, once the straight happened, we've kind of just been like,
me, our eyes, I think, kind of glossed over the Jayling Green of it all just because
it was like, oh, finally, the Houston Rockets upgraded that position.
what do you guys think about him
and Devin Booker playing together
because obviously I think we all want Devin Booker
go back to being a shooting guard
we don't want point Devin Booker
clearly isn't the best way to utilize him
it is kind of interesting
to have two guards who
are three level scores
are hard to guard
like Jalen Green has abilities
like I mean
I obviously on the next side
I'm not like oh they're going to like the fucking league
but it's kind of an interesting fit
I suppose
awkwardly enough I'm like
you know they could surprise you
for a little bit next year
it's a little bit
like him and dad
Green, Dylan Brooks.
It's kind of interesting.
Like him and like.
It's kind of like
Devin Booker and Bradley Beal, but I think Jalen
Green's a higher volume three-point shooter these days.
Bradley Bill wants to be more of a slasher.
So maybe that fits a little bit better.
Defensively,
I mean,
Jayling Green might low-key be a slightly better
defender than Bradley Bill at this point.
He definitely is.
He definitely is a much better defender.
He has some good strategies
the course of the year.
I don't know how to feel about that duo.
I'm not even convinced it's going to be a duo.
Like I can't rationalize it in my head
because I'm like,
are they really going to roll those two out together in the lineup?
Yeah.
Do you think he was a better defender because of him or just because that's what you may like ask for?
And it's like, you're here.
If you're going to do anything, you're going to defend.
Yeah.
So if he's going to, if you feel like that and then he's going to Phoenix, I don't feel any reason to actually believe that all of that defensive acumen that he was showing is going to, it's going to show up in Phoenix.
And then it's like, you have Devin Booker and Jalen Green.
You still haven't taken care of the Bradley Bill.
thing we've been talking about for a couple weeks like oh yeah the the buyouts coming is it is it
is it on the way like when is it going to happen because if it's not and you go into the season
now mind you we still have like two months left two two two and a half months left before the season
starts if you go into the season and bradley beale is still there now you have this trio of
beale booker and green and that in itself is disgusting that's that's awful i can't i again i cannot
rationalize it because i can't imagine it's really going to happen like surely they have to
to move one of these guys in the next two months.
Like, they can't, I can't, there's no way they see Atlanta,
but those are going to court together.
It might happen.
It might happen because I, there's, there's been a couple moves.
And maybe it's just because it's an offseason and things are moving very, very slow.
But there's been a couple moves that we thought we're going to happen by now.
And they haven't come, uh, coming to pass yet.
So I'm still waiting on, on the Bradley Beal thing to, to play out.
but I think that
Jay and Green and Devin Booker
any time that you put
another shooting guard next to Devin Booker, I'm not going to
like it because you're taking a guy
and you're moving him off of his natural position
and you're moving him out of the position where he's best at.
Like can he be good at point guard?
Yeah, but I think that the only way that that can happen
is if you have a PKD
and you have another guard slash wing
that could do all the defensive stuff
and really bring the team together,
when you're just putting bags,
bag bag and then devon booker point guard that doesn't make sense shout to cd hooper in the chat so what are
your thoughts on the bulls thoughts on the bulls what do you mean what thoughts are he supposed to have on
the chicago wolves oh they didn't pay josh giddy it which is interesting we did talk about it's
been like two weeks now or so can you not distract from what's important you what's important
this is crazy man that's insane on to the next story
Jason Tatum has been recruiting
Damien Lillard to join the Celtics
Now we talked a little bit about
Damien Lillard last week
About what could be the next step for him
Very interesting scenario
He got bought out
So he got
I don't think the details are revealed
But I'm assuming a majority of his money
So he can afford to make his decision
On his next team based on
What's best for him
Not necessarily monetarily
So he can go to a team that
He just rehabs for a year
Comes back to win the team next year
Can choose to go home to Portland
If he wants to wrap up his career
And back home
You can go to a contender like the Celtics
this would be interesting
just because him and Jason Taylor
would be rehabbing
from the same injury
on the same timeline
that's kind of dope
and they kind of retool
tank for a year
come back together
from 2026
I don't know if I should say
I hope this happens
because it could be really good
for the Celtics
if it works out well
but I wouldn't be mad
if this happens
Kelly's brothers
I like it
it's interesting
honestly
I don't know if I love it
for someone like
Damia Lord
because it's like
damn bro like
I should know
I take that back
I do like it
It's super fun.
It's a,
I'd rather him go to Portland, though.
I'd rather him go to Portland
and finish out his career there.
It just feels right overall.
But if he wants to go over there
and get a ring,
it'll be cool too.
Yeah, I guess if he comes back
and he is still like really good,
I don't know,
like, who knows what to expect
from a 34-year-old
Damien Lillard off of an Achilles tear?
Who knows?
But if he comes back
and he is an above average
starting point guard still,
him, Derek White,
Brown, Tatum,
insert whoever's playing center
for them now?
That could be interesting.
It could be
It could be a pivot
And then you remember
Oh yeah
Two of our starters
Are coming off
An Achilles tear
It's crazy
Yeah
That's like
That's a lot of weight
It's a lot of weight
It's a lot of pressure
To put on both of them
To immediately
Thrust them into this
Like win now window
And so that's why I'm with you
If you're gonna go anywhere
I don't think Dame
Should sign with anybody this year
Really
I don't
I think
You don't think you should rehab
With the team
No
I don't
No, I think, I think that he should rehab by himself and with his team, and he should feel
comfortable to return whenever he wants, as opposed to we're going to get you in, in this
building with whatever team, because at a certain point, they're going to start looking at
him and say, okay, like, when are we, you know, going to bring you back?
He obviously isn't super young.
So I would, you just, you just got paid.
You obviously are breaded.
do what you do on the side come back next year figure out who you want to play with and then go from
there but i wouldn't sign with anybody what if he just retires i'm just like yeah i'm just calling
that's that's very old that's very old school it's it's very much like oh yeah this career ending
injury yeah i mean like he has nothing else to gain in his career if he does want a championship
that'll be obviously like amazing but when it comes to how we view and remember him i don't know
how much more this would add to
as like overall career
and reputation where you remember him
in his whole storyline as
in his like peak.
Yeah.
It's interesting.
The Golden State Warriors
expected Al Horford to sign last week.
He didn't.
The Lakers, Bucks, and Atlanta
are still believed to have interest.
Interesting because it seemed all but done
that Al Horford would join the Warriors
and he didn't,
which was a hilarious phrasing.
I love that.
He did not.
What do you guys think he's going to go?
What do you want to see him go?
No one, I should say where do you think will go
Because who the fuck knows?
Yeah
At this point, if Golden State isn't the guarantee it seemed
Who do you want?
What would be your ideal outcome?
Do you love him in Atlanta?
He left Atlanta on a super sour note back in, what, 2016?
I forget he was in Atlanta like for the prime of his career.
Yeah, for a majority of his career, damn near pretty much.
He's been a hawk.
But I would like it, obviously, because he's obviously is embarrassing,
but he's my favorite center of all time.
Damn.
Yeah.
Yeah, so I would like it.
He would fit very well on the Hawks.
Obviously, there's not enough, like, minutes to go around,
considering we have, like, Anyeka, then there's also KP.
But then O'Hawford could definitely slide in and play consistent minutes,
but I don't think he would get the minutes that he would be wanting.
I think, honestly, I like him better on the Lakers or the Bucks,
because there's more burn, and that team needs some level of production from him.
The Bucks need him bad.
The Bucks desperately need Al Horford at his old-ass age.
they still desperately need them.
You guys also
what kind of need them.
You have no idea
what Christophe's
thing is.
That is true.
And keeping that dynamic
of them together
is kind of cool too.
Like,
they worked well together.
Like that was,
that was like a symbiotic
relationship.
I feel like just saying
was run that back for us.
Like that,
I kind of like that.
I would do it.
I mean,
if I'm,
um,
on say on the Atlanta Hawks,
I would absolutely go ahead
and try to sign
out of what's the name?
On-S-I-S-L-A-L-L-A-S-L-A-S-Lah.
Yeah.
Gotcha.
Yeah, the Atlanta thing would be fun.
He would be very fun on the Lakers.
Would he be very fun on the Lakers?
I do.
I think him and him and Luca and especially when you start benching DeAndre Aiton.
That's going to happen if that's a case.
Yeah, you're going to have moments where you close games with Hwarford over Aiton.
And I mean, and let's just say that you get the absolute best out of Aiton.
Is there a world where you can play both of them?
Yeah, definitely.
yeah so like you can you can do that i think there's there's some ways that that make it really
really interesting and add uh add a layer to to what the lakers can do but milwaukee does to to let
brookelopez leave and then say alhorford come in it's like yeah thank you we are just saved
yeah uh the lakers would be interesting it would just be like maxi cleba what he brought next to luka
whenever he was good given that five out spacing look so you can have a couple you could have
jackson hayes is the role man aiden's kind of in between you throw it to him you can do stuff on
elbow but you can also roll and then pick and pop threat is horford like that'd be a nice
stable of big men but i'm also not dying to have another old man yeah if it happens though it'd be cool
i'll be excited for it paul george underwent a successful arthroscopic procedure on his left knee
monday to treat injury suffered during a recent workout the most unlucky star of the last year or so
continues to be unlucky him and joan maybe might be one and two of bad injury luck the past year or two
but another serious injury that requires surgery from training that fucking
sucks. Seventy Sixers fans cannot get a break. This has been a nightmare since getting
Paul George. Go ahead, fire the mics up. Fire the mics up. Because it is podcast
season already. You cannot play. This sucks. This is, this is awful. I, I'm, I feel like on any
given week, the Sixers go back and forth in terms of like, who's our worst contract?
Yeah. Paul George or Mb. And then depending on who's, who's ramping up, who's hurt, like, you go,
you flip flop this is this is turning out to be one of the worst signings in like at least the last
20 years minimum what hurts the most when it comes to this is sitting down thinking about
huh like maybe the philadelphia civic sisters can make some type of new or some type of noise
next year but then i sit down and realize holy fuck there's like tarris maxi it's all
depend on it just had to put that out there it's all it's all dependent on the bead but then you
sit down and look at like their rotation so a lot of guys who would eat up minutes vj
maxi mccane paul george of course and imbd oh my god they're so fucking small and the biggest
guy in this team outside of mbid is i don't know who kelly ure and it's paul george oh fuck we're
in hell right now yeah oh man yeah it's just an unfortunate situation he's an older star when they
signed him so baked into the equation which you could see you know
outcome where his body breaks down and it could be a poor investment. But it was worth it for them
because they had the money in the offseason that was soon going to become unavailable as they
pay guys. So it was really now or never to spend that free agency cash. You didn't really gain
anything by holding out that money for another year because you'd lose a cap space. So I understood
that it was an unsafe bet. Sucks. They're getting the bad end of it. It didn't quite work out.
Hard to imagine it goes well for them with these two contracts, man. Like every time you feel
hope for the Sixers, you see VJ Edgecombe do cool stuff. You remember what Jeremy Kaine was doing when
He was healthy.
You're like, fuck, we're so back.
Next day, you see a report like this.
Oh, we're so over.
Like, it just toggles back and forth between hope and despair.
And then even McCain, McCain is coming off of a meniscus tear himself.
Yeah.
You have, you have that.
Vijay Edgecombe.
Love him.
Looks like he's already fitting into the culture.
He was missing some of league games because he had to jack the thumb.
And so, like, it's looking better for him now.
Like, I think he's on track.
I'm not sure if he's going to play in the Vegas one because he already got hurt.
I think he's going to be out.
Yeah.
But they did say that he was like, he was.
Progressing well, whatever.
But you just constantly, constantly have injuries.
And so if you are banking on, we're going to have Maxi, Paul George, Embed, and McCain,
and three of those four are already hurt.
What are we doing?
Yeah.
Chai is loving Hansen Yang right now.
They're talking about, they need us to talk about them.
Hey, man.
Special.
Next up, Kavon Luni, it talks about what pushed him out of Golden State.
You know, it was a bit surprising when he left.
He said, it wasn't just one moment.
Even this year in the playoffs, we're going up against Stephen Adams.
and that's the kind of matchup I thrive in.
That's what I do.
But I wasn't giving the opportunity to do my job.
It felt like, all right, y'all don't trust me.
And I really thought I'd earn that trust.
Interesting.
It's very candid.
Very candid.
Very candid.
It does suck because it's like, damn, Steve.
You're out here pushing out, everybody.
Right?
And I can understand why he's saying, right?
He's saying that, but also this has kind of been the Kavanaugh-Luni experience in Golden State
over the last, like, four or five years.
years where Steve Kerr really picks him throughout certain matchups and I think I think he's he's
very valid to feel that way also if you're out there and Draymond's out there who the hell is
going to score like who is who is going to give us an actual opportunity to get to 90 points because
that's what that series was is whoever gets to 85 whoever gets to 91st that's where I feel
comfortable at and if Looney's on the floor the spacing is just so disgusting.
his defense was insane and if you're able to sag off of loony and draymond where where does step
you know fit into all that in terms of being able to get his game off where does jimmy
butler who already was hurt like there's just no space for him yeah understandable why he feels
this way for the reasons he said i can totally see that through his eyes i also wasn't watching that
series saying damn anymore kvon looney minutes that's the answer i understand why steve care didn't
pull his card when it in his specific series so sounds like
like it was a reasonable divorce for both sides yeah you lost the legend though for sure we got
kavan looie drama right now oh man we're in the deep end question question question would
kavan loony get his jersey guitar no hell no no i'm saying multiple tips he's been there for a
come on if they had like a ring of honor i do think that he that he would be in like the words ring
of honor sure okay sure well not anymore because he left to be this type of role player you get a ring
of honor i think you get to stay your whole career yeah i think i mean but you're
And also that, too, I think the timing of when he was drafted, he got, he was drafted already when the Warriors were, like, doing really well.
It was before Seth's first MVP.
I think if he was there, this is the time.
If he was there, like, in 2014 or right before Steph won his first ring.
But he was on the 22 team.
Yeah.
Cool.
I mean, okay.
So was Otto Porter.
Yeah, well, he's just, both iterations of the champions, a little different.
Come on now.
But, yeah, I don't know.
I don't think Jersey would tie is a bit much, but rigum honor, if that, if that exists.
If that's a step below, then sure, sure.
Okay.
He should be remembered fondly, whatever that means to you.
Yeah, exactly.
Now, what shouldn't be remembered fondly?
And I promise you, we'll put him on rating hairstyles.
Whatever Rick James thing he has been on is crazy.
The fake dreads is disgusting.
It's a bad look.
Okay, well, that's all the headlines I want to talk about today.
Now we've got to get to.
The standouts from NBA Summer League,
we got to start with the biggest, most important name
that has been all over everybody's TV.
If you watch Summer League, if you watch in at least clips, highlights, whatever it is, the talk of the town.
Bronny James.
We got his highlights versus Clippers in their most recent game.
He had 17 points, has been pretty efficient.
He looks like, he looks like a second year player at times, right?
He looks a little more comfortable.
He looks like a guy that's been there before, you know, like as you expect a little older guys to be in Summer League.
Have all been encouraged?
What's your current stance on Bernie James are for the summer league?
I remember a couple weeks ago, maybe it was like a week and a half or two weeks ago.
I said in a semi-jokably matter, I watched like a condense.
Was it a Utah game of Brony James or whatever?
And it was funny.
It was just because this is like, damn, you're really over here watching
Condense Summer League game, what has gone into you?
But truth of the matter is, like, Brony genuinely looks so much improved.
To me, I remember last year, or, yeah, last year during our draft process,
I said the best possible outcome for someone like Brony James,
player comparison-wise, is to, can you give me a little bit of deuce McBride?
Can you have some type of juice offensive while being, like,
a certain level
at dog offensively
because of his wingspan
and his ability
just cover a little bit more ground
than his stature says
and throughout summer league
he looks so much more confident
and he shows like the wiggle
and juice that he has to his games
and I love it.
He looks like a genuine rotational player
we can give you at least like
15 minutes a night.
It's so funny that he looks pretty good
and pretty encouraging
and Delta Connect looks horrible.
Dalton Connect looks like he doesn't want to be there.
And again,
everything since they didn't want him there yeah and it feels like everything since he got traded it just looks like he just doesn't have the same like maybe it's just like lack of days ago because he's fucking 24 years old in summer league so he's like doesn't want to be there but you couldn't feel less opposite about these two both performances it feels like don't connect stock is at an all time high after the fan base really loved him the first half of last year and brawny like no matter how the lebron james thing's thing like shapes out if he does end up leaving wants to leave retire's after next year leaves up for next year whatever may be
I'm so, like, bought in on the Bronny storyline for the Lakers.
I hope he stays no matter what.
I really want to see him, like, develop into being a meaningful part of this rotation.
It already feels like Bronie is more beloved by the fan base than LeBron.
Like, he's already more, like, ingratiated.
And I do think that everybody is kind of invested because there is, there is a certain thing
where when you get, and this happens to any, to every fan base across all sports,
if there's one guy on your team that the rest of, like, the sports media is like,
Yeah, this guy sucks.
Everybody just rallies around.
Bands together.
Yeah, bands together.
And it's like, we're going to protect this guy.
You're not going to talk about him like that.
Yeah.
And so I think for Barney, that 100% is that.
And he looks like, like you said, seventh, eighth,
well, maybe not seventh, but like eighth, ninth man, right,
can give you actual rotation minutes.
That's cool.
I like that.
Locking up Cooper flag in the post.
Shout out to you, right?
He's doing all the things where if I dropped Drew Holiday in the summer,
league right we're going back to to some of league cops or just player cops that he you know was
trained to say and stuff like that yeah but it's looking like he can actually show up in an NBA
game and play that kind of role and give you a strong you know 10 15 minutes and that's honestly
for a second year player that's that's fine yeah he's moving with confidence too like you can
see he looks like a player that is like very tuned into what he needs to improve on like it looks
like he's practicing ball handling combos that he practices like in the gym like it's like very
specific combos that he's like really really honed in on yeah and i feel like that's what you want to
see obviously like in summer league you can't take away like you can't index too hard on the outcome
here it is summer league it is not the same game but you can take away trades you can take away the
things that players are clearly looking to develop the ways players are clearly being deployed
and there's clearly a focus on him developing his on ball abilities yeah i agree like seeing
some of the tendencies that is that he's taken and how he's just so focused on being dynamic as a
score moves me.
I don't get he's been shooting well.
I don't give a flying fuck about that because that just doesn't matter at all in summer
league.
You're absolutely right.
Things that tend to move people,
move,
things that genuinely like really produce well and project well into the league is
seeing the process,
seeing how you get to your moves and seeing like the decision making at the end of
the day.
I give a flying fuck without a three point shot.
I need him to be a consistent shooter.
I need it bad.
I give a lot of fuck about his three points shop on.
In summer league though,
it don't matter.
I will take anything I can get.
I will take any.
type of encouragement i can get i need to see the ball go through the hoop for brawny as much as i
possibly can i watched tray young shoot like 13 percent in summer league i watched also jalen brunson
in that same summer league year was ass as well so there's so many players who are terrible just because
your young point guard sucking summer league doesn't mean i want to see my young point guard sucking
summer league i want to see him hit every three possible yeah it's not fun i'm warning you man
i don't mean i know it's not everything but i i i care a lot about that just because that's the
That's the main thing he needs to do to get on the court
is be a consistent shooter.
I need that.
Let's talk about Hansen Yang.
The person, everybody in the chat is dying to see his talk about.
How have y'all felt about watching this
Jokic Regen dominate and look just fun as hell to watch in Summer League?
Yeah, man, I'm watching the future.
Yeah.
I'm watching.
I hope he's good so bad.
I pray he's good.
If he's nice,
him and Klingin is, it's such a fun, like,
one, two, center punch where they're both just,
they're very, very different.
Yeah, it's like one.
like for 48 minutes in the game
you're gonna get punched in the jaw
or in your stomach
you know it sounds like
it sounds like Yokich and Nurkich
that's a great comparison
that's a great comparison
not clinging his way higher
as soon on the near kish
but in terms of like the dynamic
yeah that could be the dynamic
except they're drafting the same year
but uh
I don't know what to take away
but you know like I said
you take away the play style
and how teams are deploying certain players
they're playing through them all right
they're doing what you need to do
to see him in his abilities
to see the high post passing
to see the hub
I love how good his screens are.
So that's like the one of the most important parts of being.
Look at that.
That's big man stuff, man.
That's taking contact.
That's active hands.
I love that.
He's going to be,
he's going to be good.
I'm a fan.
He's a good screener,
a good passer.
That alone gets you utility as a typos hub.
If you can be a good drop big,
like I have faith this is going to be a real good player.
Yeah.
People were shitting on the pick obviously because they didn't know he was,
but like I wanted to,
I wanted to be from the crowd.
They're like, yo, what's going?
I was like, damn.
He was not, he did not have his own table at all.
Exactly.
I want him to be good and I have faith to be good.
Also, I'm excited because like, I assume Klingan will be the starting center.
Yeah.
And like he'll be like the sixth man, at least at first, they're playing through him.
I want to see him play with Denny.
That'll be a dynamic combo of skills with him as a driver and being able to cutter and then
having this guy throwing passes.
And if Scoot can be good, if Scoot can be a good cutter with that athletic.
That will save his life.
bodies that can be good cutters off him and it's it's so like it's so needed because everybody that
they have nobody's a great playmaker yeah so the the more playmaking that you can add on onto that
team hey shout out shout out to you could you also know that like drew holiday is going to be there too
he's fine like he can run offense whatever but he's not some elite playmaker if we could just get
everybody out here to to make some passes that's nice right there that's nice finding cutters and stuff
and stuff like that this is
do you think he doesn't have a cool nickname
I don't
I'm kind of nervous for the nickname
I'm not gonna lie
it's gonna get crazy
you know they're already calling
him the big tariff
that's what I'm saying
there's not really
we've had such limited reps
in terms of nicknaming
this archetype of player
and that I'm not sure
if people are gonna be able
like to step up to the moment
I don't think the NBA fan base at large
is ready to put together
a good Asian player nickname
I'll say I don't think they're capable
of finding a
a good nickname that can actually be said on a broadcast.
I think it'll be a haliband situation where Twitter will have a good one, but
they now aren't allowed to say it.
Yeah, because folks in the chat saying the big PlayStation, it's kind of a joke because
he, in an interview, he said he loved PlayStation.
All he does is eat, sleep, PlayStation all day.
Oh, I thought it was because Sony is an Asian brand.
I thought it was a racist one.
I'm sure that's like part of it.
A little bit, but he said himself out of PlayStation.
I do remember that.
But yeah, I just I need everybody
All of NBA Twitter
They need to go to Summer League as well
Like you need to be five nicknames a day
Right really really start
Start honing your your craft because
Especially for his archetype
For the first half of the
What is it?
Of the century
Everybody like him
Y'all mean right
And then we get to 2010
Everybody after Jeremy Lynn right
Like the only nicknames are just
The most prominent Asian player
Who came before you
I need people to lock in and get a good nickname
Someone said it's time for the Yang Dynasty
Yang Dynasty could be okay
That one's not culturally inappropriate
I don't think that could be a good nickname
It's all it's all
Or just the dynasty
This is very culturally inappropriate
My lips are closed
I don't think that's not terribly offensive
I don't think
No I just said it because I want to make a clips reference
But
Yang Dynasty's kind of hard
I kind of like that one
It's very
It is nice
We gotta get past seventh grade geography
where's he from
I don't even know
I think he is
Is he Chinese
I think he is
Okay
I think he is
I just assumed
It sounds like
Somebody say Yang hi
Okay
Okay
The wall
Guys again
We're still taking low hanging fruit
Yeah like
You could do an homage
To Yao Ming
And do some kind of
The Wall V2 or something
That's possible
No V2
twos, no V2s.
Yeah, yeah, I want to see him
have his own.
Yep, he's from China.
There's so much
untapped potential here
with cool Chinese culture.
I think,
I think we can do better
than doing the wall again.
Yeah.
Okay.
Next player.
What did y'all think?
Somebody just said Genghis Khan.
That's just a name.
That's nothing to do with China.
What are we talking about right now?
It's not,
notably not Chinese.
Dude, this is,
we took the wrong turn
when it comes to this combo with our chat.
I said,
that man is Ottoman.
It's Ottoman.
See, they've got some more crazy ones.
Okay.
Next conversation.
Y'all can't be trusted for anything.
And this is why I was nervous.
This is exactly why I don't how to behave.
Oh, my God.
We start grounding you.
Next one.
Carter Bryant has next time, bro,
someone, we see someone in public that,
yo, boy, I love your video,
love the streams.
We have to take our belts out and just
and they'll learn.
They know what's up.
Since the summer started and high school let out,
the gym I go to allows teenagers
to work out for free.
Oh, yeah.
I've been seeing nonstop crayon eaters at the gym recognize me every day.
Really?
And some people have, like, mentioned memes from chat.
And I'm like, oh, my God.
Really?
Yeah, I'm like, you guys are so far in.
I forgot what they're saying, but they've been referencing things like from the chat.
Like, you have to be in the streams.
Yeah.
And I'm like, dude.
That's your moment to go ahead and take out your bell or your shoe and just turn around.
Whip, wow, wow, whack, wow, wow.
Because you know, they'll be, those are the same ones who be talking crazy.
What do you guys thought about Carter, Brian?
If you see Isaac at the gym,
challenge him to a bench,
press competition oh i like that you can't go rep for rep
right mind you they're all like 15 years old
kids will fuck belt to ass i think it don't matter about age
what do you guys thought about carter bryant and his
defensive uh monstrous abilities that he showcased he's a demon dude he's a
man he's a dog the offense has been rough at time but man that defensive
playmaking is going to be outrageous i told y'all for a fucking reason he was one of my guys
into the NBA draft and I wanted him so badly so so fucking badly on the Atlanta Hawks for these
reasons exactly and he covers so much ground yeah like he's so agile with that size like he defends
like he's 6-6 but he's like 6-9 and I don't know his wingspan is I don't know what exact measurement
was but he looks jai fucking gantic he looks like Lamar odum out there with oh yeah that shot
listen that shot is busted he's step back and hit a bank from the corner it's over
and he did this he's like yeah yeah that's
27%
That's what that is
But it's okay
He's gonna lock people up
This is just gonna be
A Sart Thompson 2.0 right
Like that's what you're
That's what you're hoping for
Oh my God
Dude he gets up
This is crazy
And I knew he was a good defender
Obviously like
But it's different seeing it
In college tape
Than seeing it like in summer league
Immediately like something about
It makes it register
In your brain more
Yeah
Like it translates more in your head
Because you know it's a different
It's slightly higher level
But it is higher level
When you see him in the uniforms
Like it just feels more real
So we knew all this about
Carter Bryant
We love to pick
when it happened.
Something about seeing
three blocks in a summer league game
and summer league you have like
the maximum hope you're seeing
these guys out of the first time.
I can be convinced anybody's a star
in this exact environment.
This is the exact reason why
he was drafted so highly
in the NBA draft because in
college your game is so limited
and there's not
hell of space or room literally
when it comes to trying to do high flying
plays or showing your agility
and in the NBA so much space
for that.
Yeah.
Yeah, the lineup of him, Sohan, Wembe, is crazy size and mobility from your three biggest players.
Like, Sohan also defends kind of like this.
He also can move from that size.
You put them both.
I don't know how you get the spacing right, having Wembe helps.
But if you can get one of these guys to shoot league average, so Carter Bryant and so on can be out there together at the same time, that can be a crazy defense.
If Castle starts shooting well, I don't, I don't, I don't buy it.
I do this person to be so rough when it comes to their spacing.
So rough.
Yeah, it's going to look like Orlando.
no magic west yes it literally is but but you have a stretch five the these stretch five that makes a
big difference he's gonna put up nine threes again yeah he has it's it's it's gonna be like that but
i i feel like in summer league especially defensively whenever you see those highlights it always
just feels more tangible um because obviously like the the shooting it is what it is but on defense
you always feel like if somebody just locks in and you know gets into a stands pulls up their shorts right
just tries really hard you can you can believe it a little bit more yeah so that's why
I think we're Carter, it's like that.
And then we also thought that he was going to be a good defender.
So seeing him be a good defender is like, oh, this is exactly what we, what we wanted.
Have you guys been encouraged for what you saw from Dylan Harper?
Yeah, he played one game.
Of course, like the shot wasn't the best.
His efficiency wasn't the best.
It doesn't really matter.
The ability in the, his craft was super impressive.
And I think he set himself really apart to the rest of the class outside of obviously Cooper
flag.
Like that block, that athleticism is ridiculous
And it's a part of the reason why
He is one of the better guard prospects
Over the last few years
And there's so much
There's so many layers to his game
And he's just scratching the surface
When he comes to having the strength
To get into the pain
He did have a hard time in this game
Nothing really came too easy
When he comes to driving
But the craft
The craftmanship that he has
Is ridiculous and he's gonna reveal
How do you feel about his defensive potential?
I don't have a good feel for how his consistency is defensively
He was a league guard
I never expect him in college to be a great defender,
but does he profile as being the above average defender, you think?
He should.
He has no reason to because, I mean, he has, he has, he has the ability and the agility
and just straight up heightened, heightened to do so.
He should be a positive defender in the league, if you ask me.
In college, it wasn't a standing talking point,
but it's not a weak point out.
No one's talking about, oh, my God, like, it wasn't a sort thumb at all.
Yeah.
If he can be, if he can lock in there, dude, him, Castle,
and the three guys we talked about before, those big guys?
Yeah.
Sheesh, man.
Yeah, that I think also
We had a send for sale somewhere else
Come on now
One of the coaches was talking about his conditioning as well
Like, you know, that's going to come with time
I feel like that's something that I forget about sometimes
In terms of like the adjustment
Is like being able to play 48 minutes
And then doing that for 82 games in your first year
Along with just you know
Especially as a point guard trying to figure out
Where everything is going and try to figure out the game
So I think in Summer League, that's, like, now that he said it, now I'm going to be watching it every night.
But like, that's something that I'm like, okay, we'll see.
So we should probably talk about the best player in the draft class.
We should probably talk about Cooper Flag a little bit.
We just glossed over.
Yeah.
The most points by number one pick in Summer League history, 31 tied John Wall.
Second game was monstrous after a slow first game, which he shot a little bit of tour dates.
That second game, though, there's a reason they shut him down after that game.
He looked like a man amongst boys.
This guy looked exactly what you'd want to see you from number one pick.
It felt like every play was just a dunk.
He was just going to the rim, straight aggression,
with dunking all on everybody.
And you saw it, and as I was watching that, I was like, yeah, he's getting shut down.
He's not playing another second of Summer League.
Yeah.
You know, it happened.
He was a demon in the transition.
He was operating the pick and roll so, so effectively and efficiently.
He didn't, whenever he plays in a half-core offense,
it didn't look like or feel like he was wasting any dribbles at all.
He was getting it from, like, pretty much,
everywhere the blowbys will be at the top of the at the top of the key it doesn't matter like he's
so effective everywhere on the court so man it was a number one overall pick performance facts and
also what what stood out too was his three point shot and the confidence with it looked so good
because a lot of it like he had he had some shots off the dribble where he was stepping into it
like this one right here where if you if you can do that if you can pull off off the dribble
hey man that unlocks so much and i think for him
and his self-creation,
and that's kind of being the one really, like,
big question mark about his game is,
is he going to be able to go out and get a bucket and stuff like that?
If you can do that,
oh, my,
him,
LeBron,
AD,
is going to be crazy.
He's such a confident ball handler already,
like running these pick and rolls.
His eyes are always up.
He's really surveying the court.
It feels like he goes to his drives,
his mid-range counters,
that step back through.
We saw when they went under on the screen.
Like,
it feels like he really has a full,
personal. I think a lot of times, even with high picks, you see them enter. They just, they drive more frantically and you don't feel like they have, like, quite the development of the counters in. And at least in Summer League, we'll see what it looks like when you have a man Thompson pressing you and not Carter Bryan or his other guys in the Spurs. We'll see what looks like in a real league game. But it feels like he's already so polished compared to even other number one picks. Like, Wemmy didn't feel this way his first couple of summer league games. He was obviously like, I had a couple good games in there because he's fucking seven foot four demon. But the level of polish as a prospect, I can.
can't remember the last guy I look like this man I can't even really at this age too I've already
being one of the youngest prospects like there's been older guys that look like this for sure yeah
but at this age it's not normal yeah like the awareness is ridiculous it's like he uses every
ounce of his athleticism to brutalize the pain and just get to that fucking room which obviously
allows so much for his game and then he lets other parts of his games shine like crazy I remember
going into Duke
not yeah going into Duke one of his
biggest one of his biggest
talking points and questions about his game
was his ability to score
as a number one option
and this game shuts all those
conversations not shuts him down yeah I don't know about that
but like he very much
has those abilities yeah
yeah definitely as far as what you can take away
from summer league he looks like a player that
will not have a problem with an all ball score at all
exactly I wonder what do you think his biggest strength is going to be
he nets out like transition I think it's going to be
Yeah, he thinks he'd be a yonist type, just demon that just can't be stopped.
Yeah.
Already he should be one of the best transition players in the league, if you ask me, for sure.
I mean, look at that, though.
That's one drill will pull up into the three.
He's already had mad, mad, bad, done, mad drops to the basket that was super aggressive.
Like, he's, he was hooping.
And he got, he got the goate that's making him look older.
Listen, he's on the way.
He's doing a lot.
I'm looking at a large Jason Tatum.
Dead ass.
I'm looking at it.
I know he's obviously, like, famously loves Jason Tatum, wolves the game after him.
that shit shows that shit shows intensely
one of the other big names that's been very
not necessarily from Vegas but before
Vijay Edgecombe you know he got hurt but we haven't talked about him at all
by Summer League how did you all feel about this game
which he had 28 points 10 rebounds four assists and two blocks
yeah I mean I was ready to shut him down after that
because I think everything was on was on display
and the best version of him was there
and so you saw like the athleticism
you see the in-between work
you saw you saw what you drafted at the number three spot for so I was I was very happy with it
and especially like putting him on the other side of base Bailey who didn't have a great game
at least in this specific uh showing yeah it was like yeah we made the right pick he's gonna be
so good man yeah I did see I mean his flaws did shine as well but obviously like I'm gonna take
talk about the pros and appreciate appreciate that more often because
you know his ability gets to the rim his ability to shoot the ball very well and just like
like pick and choose his spot is amazing.
It's so utterly important for a guard coming into this, coming into the season already,
just having that ability.
And so for me personally, this man's a dog.
And he might be, he's going to be like number two when it comes to the rookie of the year race.
If you asked me.
Yeah, that's my favorite rookie of the year candidate.
Who else is one of your favorite rookies?
Johnny Furphy.
Not a rookie.
But yeah, man, VJ. Edgecom is, actually, I remember we did talk about it in last stream.
So I realized like, oh, yeah, we did talk about this.
Fucking dog.
Yeah, just shout out of him, man.
I'm so excited for the six years.
Dude, he actually plays like he fucking, never mind.
What did you all think about Trey Johnson's first game?
He honestly might be the most impressive.
And I think he surpassed my expectations, my expectations as him as a score for sure.
The craftiness and his willingness to get to the.
the rim, which was a huge badge on him coming out of Texas, was huge.
Yeah, yeah.
He easily has one.
He's had one of the, he probably had the best performance out of all rookies.
Outside, I get scuba flat.
His shot is so polished.
Like this, if he's not a above average shooter from day one, I'll be shocked.
Which is hard for rookies because, like, it's difficult to get your shot off,
especially when you're a player that has a good amount of usage, which I imagine he will be
on this team.
But his shot form is so polished.
Like, it looks like he'll be an effective shooter, like 37% at least from day one.
Yeah.
Like Jeremy Kane.
yeah him look at that i mean him just slowing down his his ability to to get his shot off to play
in between like that's why i do think that out of all the obviously like cooper flags in a different
you know situation because he's also the number one picked out of everybody else i do think
that trey johnson is in the best situation for him because washington needs buckets and they
need scoring prowess and he has the opportunity he has the chances to do that and he has cj mccullum
and Chris Middleton there to be, you know,
your OGs and your vets to teach you how to do all that stuff.
He's going to be good.
He's your best prospect, right?
Like, he would have won number one in 2024, wouldn't you?
Uh, or Risha Shea and.
I don't know.
I don't, I don't think he would go over SAR.
Well, I don't, no, I don't think you'd go number one over SAR.
He wouldn't, he wouldn't, he would not.
I don't know, I'm seven, seven feet in, you're right.
Maybe not, maybe not.
Yeah.
But it would be in, I think he'd be in the, I think he would go, like, firmly, probably, like,
number three or four.
who went three yeah i forget reed shepherd oh yeah yeah oh yeah he go he go over reed i don't know read
he was pretty he was yeah yeah he probably go both read and stepon castle yeah he would go four
for sure yeah just because he's also the great shooter read is but bigger it doesn't have the size
concerns that might plague reed forever yeah uh who should talk about next however you guys
felt about derrick queen i feel it's been the highs and lows of derrick queen have been available
to be seen body big body derrick queen the highs are super high because you do indeed see the
bag you do see the advanced dribble for a big man you see obviously a little bit of
nazri to his game that's going to be a comparison zone out there when he comes to his
perimeter skills and specifically his handle putting the ball down on the fore
getting low and getting into certain angles that traditionally you don't see people that size
or at least height doing but also they know the defensive lapses were serious yeah and very
scary did you see did you see anything especially with the defensive stuff that makes you
think that like him and zion can actually play together no i i didn't it's summer league and even
corey brewer who's a assistant coach for this team as well talked about his defensive lapses
and how just certain things is like inexcusable but if it's going to be if he wants to see
when it comes to these lapses and when he wants to see them it's going to be here i don't have much
confidence in the two as of now obviously through what he showed me of course i expect him to get better
when it comes to a certain reason, his anticipation and overall just awareness getting better.
But overall, it just doesn't feel good defensive unit by envisioning him in Zion because
they're just so absurdly weak on those ends of court.
Yeah.
Some of the chats that Isaac looks like a guy that I would throw out of a car in GTA 5.
What does that mean?
Dude, he's called you a bitch.
This is what I'd be saying.
I'm an NPC.
Every single time we see one of these guys.
I'm an NPC.
What can I say?
A lot of the car is funny
This A-C-My course
Pissed me off
Our screen is flashing
I'm trying to get everything situated
I'm like damn
Every five seconds
The A-DMI is messing up
And the screen that we're trying to look off of
It just keeps going black
Yeah
Okay well who also stood out to you guys
The Ratch Chew the HMI
The Ratch to AC-Mike
They got us
God damn it
Hey Sanuel
The Atlanta Hawks
I think he was picked 22 or 23
played very very well
He had a summary game
Where he saw like four
For 5 from 3 point line
I think
Of course I'm not looking at efficiency
but looking at his willingness to be able to be able to shoot the three and also his hustle and
will to be super active defensively moves the mountains and it feels he feels like day one
a rookie is going to come in and he could put on it feels like you play on any any NBA team in
command like at least 15 minutes game bare minimum very playable in every aspect of the game
guys bright and high this guy right and high listen I told you i told you last week i was like
the hawks optimism is really really getting to me so if you're selling me another
you know, young prospect that can come in and give you guys bodies.
All right.
I'm signing up.
And he's part of the reason why I'm like,
I don't know if I want to have someone like Al Horford.
Obviously, like, Al's going to be the better player at the end of the day.
But I am very high on his potential on this team.
And as a player overall, I'm high on his potential.
And I don't want to like diminish his opportunities at all.
So you played well.
There you go.
Shout up to box talk.
Next thing we're going to do,
If I can get this pulled up
Oh actually where did it go
Oh
Where are dogs or the dogs are dogs at
Oh there it is okay
Dude this technical difficulty is pissing me off
Yeah
The next thing we're gonna do
We're gonna do some blind rankings
And we're gonna do them with the chat
I got the site pulled up
That you can blind rank NBA players on
And we can do this just us
And with the chat
We can alternate
We can go back and forth
Wait wait wait wait
You're telling me the chat
We'll have a say in this
The chat will have a say in this
These damn dummies
man what's going on so the chat with the opportunity to prove that they know ball we can go back
and forth we'll do the first one us five and the chat will do the second one again we'll alternate
we'll give you guys a chance to do better than us we'll see we'll see what type of time in you guys are
on but first off here we are we'll do us first first name we got is Kyle Kuzma five put it right
the bottom five there might be worse but his his value is so so bad right now so five yeah
I don't I'm not going to feel bad about there's no player you can name me that I'm going to say
Oh, I wish I had Calah Cousam above him.
Yeah.
Pretty much, you're right.
No, you can't think of a player off the top of the head right now.
You'd rather have over Calcizma.
I can't.
I can't.
We got LeBron James.
Chat, they're saying one.
If I see anybody.
This is for chat.
Chat will be number two.
This is just us.
Somebody said two safer.
For LeBron?
Yeah.
Yeah, two ways safe.
I agree to.
But what does the chat say, though?
I think I see a lot of, a lot more ones and two.
I mean, I see some four.
Oh, they get the next one.
Yeah, they get the next one.
We'll alternate.
This one's us.
Oh, if it's us shit.
Yeah, let's put them out.
Oh, like full blind ranking.
Yeah, yeah, full blind ranking.
Oh, okay, gotcha.
Hey, guys.
Hey, stop saying your numbers.
We actually don't care about those.
Okay, cool.
Cool.
Yeah, he's at two.
Sit out, sit out.
We'll go to.
De Mardor Rosen.
Four.
Probably four.
Do you think there's two more stars in here potentially?
Yeah.
And even then, like, I'd rather have like Derek White than DeMarta Rosen.
Four.
Okay.
We'll hope that.
Okay.
That's, that's fair.
Jalen Brown.
That is a perfect number three.
Solid three.
That is perfect number three.
I'm not sad at all
We probably should have put LeBron at one
Yeah, but we'll see
No
My house bridge is out of God
Damn fuck
Shit
Get off the screen
Get off the screen
Chat what the hell man
This is y'all call man
Oh my god
Geez man
This is the worst
You couldn't name
A worse outcome, bro
Oh brother
Oh shit
We sold
This shit stinks
Man
We sold we sold
We sold
Lebron
I'm sorry
We'll never do this to you ever again.
All right.
Listen, next time we're asking you guys.
This next one is y'all, though.
Oh, my God.
Okay, Chad, now it's your guys' turn.
This sucks.
Bam out of bio, chat.
Where are you guys going to put him?
Spam it up.
There you go.
Let's see if you guys can do better than us.
That was disgusting.
Also, the side is a devious.
You're putting Miles Bridges last.
I know.
What a mean pool.
That's hilarious, bro.
There's spamming a lot of threes.
I'm seeing mostly three.
Yeah, three.
Three feels good.
Okay, chat.
Y'all click you.
Okay, Chad.
That makes sense.
That's what I would do as well.
We'll give you guys that.
Okay.
LeBron James.
Again, back to back.
Chat, don't make the same mistake as us.
Please don't.
Please don't.
I'm begging y'all, man.
I'm seeing a lot of ones.
I saw ones.
They learned.
They learned.
Okay.
They know they put LeBron or one.
Don't get too cute.
Fair enough.
All right.
Make sense.
Kevin Durant.
Ooh, okay.
Interesting.
He's always said that he was second to LeBron.
Chad, take your lay up.
It's so easy.
Yeah, they're spamming to immediately.
There we go.
They had no hesitation.
Take your way up.
And that's the right pick.
That's fair.
Miles Bridges.
Why is there so much Miles Bridges on here?
What's going on with this site, man?
I don't like this.
Why is there so much volume of Miles Bridges?
We got to stop using this.
Propaganda going on right now.
I know.
What's going on?
Yeah, what's going on?
Yeah, man.
We're about to cut this.
Oh, that's why I was messing up.
What happened?
Damn it.
One second.
Why can never came out?
Oh, okay.
Oh, this is awful.
All right.
All right, guys.
Well, we'll see you next week.
We'll see you on Friday for the episode.
It's going to be a great one.
Okay, chat, they've been spamming four, like, wait.
No, they didn't have five.
Five, okay.
Now, let me get my camera back.
Hold on.
What happened?
Did the whole, did they finish the list?
No, I don't know if they finished.
This is awful.
Oh, my camera's not on now.
What the hell?
What in the blue moon?
What in the blue boat?
Chat, what's going on, man?
Who was sabotaging us?
Back-to-back, Miles Bridges' appearances.
Chad, how was you day?
How was your day, chat?
What did y'all eat for lunch?
Tell us that.
Me, I ate.
Oh, they got the Ansela Rousseau 4, so they got the perfect list, they said.
Did they?
Yeah.
I guess it is, yeah.
It is actually.
LeBron.
LeBron, Katie, band.
There we are.
I'm back.
Delo, number five.
Okay, I like that.
Yeah, honestly, they did a better job than we did so far.
They got the perfect list.
Why is there so much miles bridges?
I don't know, but they navigated the miles bridges of it all way.
Yeah.
Yeah, all right.
Okay, Chad.
You guys are good so far.
Now it's our turn again.
Let's refresh.
Oh, somebody had the salmon bagel.
Good for them.
Somebody had the cheeseburger.
Ew, salmon bagel.
What is wrong with you?
Okay, we got Anthony Davis number one.
Now it's our turn again.
Two.
Do you want to go one?
Last time we tried to be conservative
with the top pick and we got fucked.
It's the first one, though.
There's like seven players are for worse about them, Anthony Davis.
Let's go two.
Let's go two.
I think two's okay.
Okay, we'll go to.
I believe we'll have a better player than you.
We'll leave room for one of the best superstars in the league.
Dejante Murray?
Five.
Yeah.
You don't go four?
There might not be like a role player, role player.
Last season was bad.
It was bad enough to where we could put him at five in it.
Torne Achilles.
Coming off from Achilles.
You're right.
Yeah.
Who the fuck knows what he's going to play like next time he comes back.
Okay.
We'll go five.
Five.
Chris Oswald for Zingis.
Three or four.
Four.
Yeah.
Again, another injury player that isn't off to 100%.
It just feels too close to AD.
Jalen Brown, three.
Okay.
Nice and simple.
Miles Bridges.
If we get Miles Bridges again.
Zach Levine.
I told y'all we should have won Anthony Davis up one.
Yeah.
Nobody listens to me.
Constantly out boating.
Damn, yeah.
Dude, we're down 0-2-0-1 to the chat run.
0-2 to the chat.
Damn.
Yeah, we haven't had a single w-d-dove yet.
Chats want to know.
We're 0-2.
Damn.
Chat's sitting on us.
Yeah.
Okay, let's see.
Listen, it's just all fun and game until y'all get sold by a weak-ass fifth pick.
We'll give you all another chance.
I'll bring in Gung-Chat for your first pick.
Where are y'all putting them?
Please.
Someone said Don is so concerned.
conservative facts.
And you let them.
It is my fault.
I take account to me.
Yeah, you were the tiebreaker.
It's your fault, actually.
Damn.
I was being optimistic.
Chat spamming three.
Okay, you guys want to start nice and even with Sangoon.
That feels fair.
Yeah, more three than anything.
Three makes sense.
Palo Bancaro.
Ooh, chat.
You guys gonna go, you guys can go one?
That finger down, Donovan.
You guys been above San Gu?
Okay, everyone's spamming two.
Okay, you guys are moving in lockstep.
You guys are very consensus with it.
Wow.
Elena said four.
What?
But you guys are all saying, too.
But okay.
You think they should go one?
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, they went two.
Dejante Murray.
That's kind of white for them.
I see one four.
But it's easy five.
Yeah, I would think they'd go five pretty clearly.
Yeah, straight five.
Straight five.
No debate for chat.
Okay, you guys got Austin Reeves.
Four or one?
I guess you kind of have to go four here.
Yeah, if you go one, you're guaranteeing.
You fucked it up.
If you go four, at least there's a door for them to get somebody better.
Yeah.
And as you'd expect, they're spamming four.
They're spamming it fast.
Ford's a good game.
And last one of these,
you guys are Kevin Durant.
All right,
this is rigged.
Hey, they're two and up.
They're getting way easier to listen to us.
I'm going to sit out this next one.
They're actually two and oh, man.
What the hell?
I'm going to say out this next one.
They're getting way easier to listen to us.
This is crazy.
That was so easy.
That was so obvious.
We can't let them get this on, get this on us.
Let's refresh this.
God, man.
Are we ever going to get a dub?
Hell no.
McCale Bridges.
Three or four.
I'll say four or five
It's been mostly stars so far
I told you I'm sitting out this one
Apparently it's been me who's selling
We can go four
Just a shitter
But I would have been five
Kyrie Irving
Okay
Two or three
I'm fine with two
They haven't been doing tons of superstars
So I feel like two's probably safe
Two's fine
Russell Westbrook
Current day number five
This is life of McKell Bridges F4
Easy current day that's easy
Jaron Jackson
Three
That feels fair
That's nice and you're perfect
Tyreys Maxie one
That's not crazy
I'd rather have Kyrie
If you squit
One through three
Are pretty damn close together
I don't even
Who does they have
Maxi or Kyrie right now?
Cairo is healthier
Yeah exactly
I locate my switch Maxi and Jaron
But one through three
Are real close
I don't feel bad about this though
Yeah I feel good
I feel good overall
This is not terrible
This is our best
I don't know that Kyrie is better
than Maxi
It's close
Like that's you want both
them to be your second guard
Playing off of a Star
Kyrie's coming off an ACL Ter
We'll see if you looks like
Yeah
They do still win that round
Yeah, they're still two and oh
We're one and two
We'll give ourselves a victory here
It's a small victory
They're two and oh, we're one and two
We still have quite the whole dig ourselves out of
This is a shameless victory
All right chat
Jaron Jackson number one for y'all
What are y'all saying?
Interesting bar
Jaron Jackson is a starting point
He's interesting
Yeah
Chad's going three for every first one
Which is very safe
Because they keep getting All-Stars first
So putting it at three is so simple
We keep starting with the role players
Make it hard
Yeah
they are saying three they are saying three fair enough
Austin Reeves
surely two
are we going two here
yeah I'm seeing a lot of two
they're saying two I think that's left over for Jared Jackson
yeah it's four whoa look at the chat sped up
damn this Austin Reeves that much worse than Jared Jackson
four wow yeah he's worse for sure
Elena said two interesting
oh four you guys
Desmond Bain two
is getting spooky guys
yeah I don't know man
Jared Jackson's better than Desmond Bain
do you want to put
you want to put Desmond Bean at 5 and make the top two guys available
This list is fucked already
This is hard
They're cooked
Oh they're saying two
You guys are gonna okay
You have to go two
It's the only way to keep the list someone
Well now it's five
But I don't know if they respond to what I said
Whoa
It's pretty split now
I'm not gonna lie
They're having real internal debates right now
Hey this is like I can't do a poll right now
Because of where I have the screen pulled up
Because my fucking other screen turned off
But it's I think it's mostly five's now
I see
There's two and hell of fives right now
It's very split
But I think I see more fives than twos
which is smart.
You guys should go five.
Okay.
Dejante Murray,
never mind.
Yep.
Bosos!
Idiots!
Morons!
Murn!
Damn, we up.
We're praying on y'all.
We up.
We up.
We up.
Get better.
You guys blow.
Dumbies.
Okay, they're all obviously going to.
What are you going to do?
Yep.
I have no choice.
And Chad Holmgren out one,
which is fair.
That should have been the right answer.
They should have put Desmond Bayne at two.
They should have put
Daring at two to begin with.
Yeah.
I think we can call this an L.
So now they are two and one
we're one and two.
They're still beating us,
but it's only a one game
sample size now.
Okay.
You guys listen to me.
Get fucked idiots.
I'm playing mine games over here.
Fucking them up.
They put too much stock
into the advice I give them.
Why is this up to me?
Five.
Five again.
You forever remains that five for us.
Easy.
Anthony Edwards.
One.
One.
One.
Easy.
Kyle Kuzma.
Four.
Cool.
Drew Holiday 3
Easy
Curved Duranteu
Hey perfect
Perfect
No notes
obvious
Look at that
Chat get your money up
We're two and two
We're back
Get your money up
We're here
Broke boys
You guys can even say
You're about to lose a game
We won
Yeah look at that
Oh so now they're saying
That was a lay-up ball
It's fun when you guys
Get Laia Spanados
So now it's a problem
We just facing the competition
In front of us
We can't do nothing else
About that
Come on now
The game is the game
Exactly bro
We're two and two.
You guys are two and one.
Let's see if we tie it up.
You guys sell.
Kyle Kuzm was to start.
There you go. Take your layup.
Take your lap.
Put him at one.
So I'm here about to ruin this.
I'm here to sell my fellow man.
Okay.
You guys got five.
That's fair.
Someone put six.
Idiots.
Bam, out of bio.
Do you want to do first three victories wins?
Yeah.
You guys are up on us right now.
Let's see if you guys sell.
If we come back.
they say two or three
I'm still a lot of threes yeah
it's pretty split that's I don't know
understand if you guys win this
then you win the series yeah yes correct
if you guys do well you win the series and it's over
I see a lot of threes
I'm going I see three
yeah it's more threes and twos
that's a tough one though
Jalen Green
all right chat
uh oh you're or man
it's getting spooky in here
you guys gonna if you leave both top two spots
skin got is spooky
oh this is so mixed right
oh they're saying four
yeah it's obviously four
they gotta go four
They're not going to do any different than that.
Paul George.
Oh, shit.
They lost.
They lost.
You guys are cooked.
They're saying too, but it's cook or gone.
It's over for you.
Go to, go to.
It's over.
Go to.
And number one, you guys have anti-Ead words.
I think,
hmm.
Bam out of bio is certainly better than modern-day Paul George.
Can we call that a loss for them?
It's easily a loss.
30.
If every single team in the league would rather have bam over Paul George,
they're fucking lost.
I don't know.
No, no, don't five men.
They lost.
They're idiots.
You lost.
We get another chance.
It's not a bad loss.
You guys did the best you could.
But Paul George's, if the number two pick is significantly worse than number three pick,
I think it's a loss.
It's a loss on the buzzer be.
But it's a respectable loss.
You guys got fucked over a little bit.
Two and two now.
The series is tied.
Next victory wins.
This is our game.
But they get to match.
So if we get number three, they have a chance to match.
It's like tennis rules.
Next up.
Steph Curry.
One, two.
Wait, dude.
There's like eight or nine players
been in Curry these days.
That's a lot.
Do you want to play the odds?
But you know what?
At any given time, I can make the argument
for Curry being one, put him out, put him out one.
I don't know one.
He got his best, yeah.
Jalen Brown.
Three.
Three, right?
Standard All-Star.
You can't put bad about that.
No.
If there's somebody better, it would probably be a debate,
so it won't necessarily be a loss.
Okay.
Okay.
Jaylon Brunson, number two.
Perfect.
It's going well.
Lowry marketing number four?
Perfect.
Four.
It's going well.
Number five, Nicole.
fuck
we're so close
I mean we were never going to win
we were so close to whooping your ass we almost came back on you
you almost blew a 3-1 lead us
we were never going to win
we were going way too fast man we went way too fast
it doesn't matter we were fucking we put step at one
even if we put step at two after we put brunton at three
but we're going to put brunton at four instead of two
or me instead of one
I don't know.
Who knows?
Okay, shot.
Game point.
Can you guys end it here?
Damn.
You guys get the third win.
Bradley Beal.
Bradley Beal.
This is very tricky.
Damn, we came so close.
Get that five.
I've seen a lot of fours, Loki.
They kind of went for Brad Beal at four.
They're spending four.
Oh, that's way more.
Wait, I don't know about you guys.
I'm seeing a lot of twos in the chat.
I've seen a lot of twos.
You guys really like Bradley Boone.
Okay.
You guys want to go four.
Fair enough.
this man is cheating jaron jackson junior where are we going with this
sounds that i put him at 15
jaren jackson i see a lot of two yeah i see two threes yeah
two seems like it's the majority yeah okay you guys want to that's fair smart
Jamal murray that's a hard one that's three it's got to be three right yeah
don't give them advice what the hell you're doing man I'm just saying last time I give
my advice that I fucked them so I'm gonna keep I'm gonna keep speaking my mind
Okay, they all, they're all spamming three.
Yeah, that's framing three. That one, that's a pretty easy one.
Damn.
Alper and Sangoon.
This is, okay, this is an inflection point.
Jaron's better than Sangu, but it's debatable.
So you put them at one, you're not cooked, but you can't put them at five below Bradley
Beard.
Leaving the five spot open is tough because you can get a superstar.
That's what we did.
This is saying one.
They're solid.
They're sold.
Yeah, nobody's saying anything but one.
This is hard.
I think you guys sold because Jared, to me, Jaron is definitively better than San Guam,
but I think that's probably a debate.
It's definitely.
Yeah.
If Sang Goon being one is the worst thing, they don't lose.
I won't give them a loss for that.
But we got to see who goes at five.
Here we go.
Can you give me one more day?
Number five is Lowry Markinen, who is certainly better than Bradley Bill.
You guys lost.
They lost.
It's over.
Damn, still a game point.
Is that a lost?
Oh, yeah.
It's a loss.
It's not terrible.
No, what's terrible?
You should put Bradbill at five.
You clearly have four all-star level players.
I would have put in at five for sure.
They should have put Bradbill at five very easily.
They're saying WIS.
They don't believe it, bro.
They're lying.
Larry Marker Marker is better.
Bradleyville and better than Jamal Murray.
Like, that's, duh.
I guess Jamal Murray is a debate.
So I guess that that one's defensible.
But come on.
Larry Markner is better than Bradbury.
They're just trying to get the fuck.
Yeah, they're just trying to end the series.
Y'all lost this.
We lost harder in the last one, but you still lost.
It's still game points.
Two, three.
Zion Williamson.
Oh, shit.
Five.
No, we can't listen to him right now.
We can't listen to him.
Three or four, what do you feel comfortable with?
It's not three, four.
It's okay.
We're off ability, though.
Like if we get four
If we get like
No I got to be three
I think he feels solid at three
Yeah we got to go three
Yeah three Zahn at his best
Three is three is great
Three is great
Three is fine
Scotty Barnes
Four four
Sure sure
Hopefully there's more
Oh wait wait wait wait
Okay
They've been rolling
With stars recently
Is he four
Yeah okay four
Four is okay
Four is okay
Tyler Hero two
Allstar that feels fine
That feels fine right
We're not gonna tell you a five
two is completely fine.
The three in middle
all-stars, Tyler Hero is the one
that made the all-star this year.
Tyro did make an all-star game this year.
He did, he does rank higher in general.
Yeah, I'm not losing sleep over him
at two over Zion.
Porzingis at five, easy.
Number one.
Lively Marketing.
Okay, I don't know if we,
Tyler Hero's better than marking in.
Is that a loss for us?
One through four is so close.
Man, this is so weird.
Like, they're all close.
Like, one through four, you can flip it in a day.
So close.
I think this is a loss for us.
Yeah, I think that's an L.
But, like, 1 through 4 are so close.
Damn, bro.
Like, the only clear definitive answer is
Porzing is 5, hell yes.
Yeah, other than that, 1-2-4 is crazy debatable,
but we'll let it keep going.
We'll count that as an L, I suppose.
Paul George Shat for your number 1.
Hit that 5.
Last time you guys put Paul George too high,
it made you lose, so choose carefully.
They're spamming 5 and 4.
He said, hit that 5 for me.
And they're kind of split
Between 5 and 4
I can't
I can't really tell
Oh yeah
No it's super split
It's very split
Okay no it's more 5s
A little bit more 5s now
It's close though
Someone's supposed that 5
They took the time for that
I can't tell what y'all want chat
Damn okay
I definitely see a lot more 5s too
Dude I really can't tell
There's a lot of 4s
Donovan
Can you see what's going on me
No okay we'll go 5
I'm seeing 5
I think you guys want I think you guys
I think you should do 5
So I'll assume that's what you guys want
I'm seeing 5
Palo Bencaro
Yeah, we were okay with five.
They're still spamming five, too.
We were good with that.
Palo Van Carroll.
I see the first two, someone says one,
but I see a majority two.
Helitudes.
Okay.
Hellotutes.
Helitudes.
Tyler Hero.
Now, this is an inflection point.
Tyler Hero was an all star this year.
Versus Palo Van Carroll.
Where are you going?
I keep my opinion to myself.
A lot of people saying three.
Yeah, three.
Yeah, okay.
Let's call that three.
Trey Young.
One or four.
Yes, please, number one, man.
This is kind of hard in terms of predicting what's next.
Made it to the Eastern Conference final.
Oh, they're spamming four.
Oh, they're spamming four.
Chat, no way you're doing.
Okay, don't listen to me.
You, you, they already lost this.
Dan, they're spamming four.
They lost.
It's a little split, but I've seen more fours.
Four is.
Okay.
Wow.
And number one, you have Victory Woman Yama.
Fuck.
Okay.
I think, I think Trang is better than Hero, but.
I mean, All-Star, not an All-Star?
I suppose 2-4 is close enough
If we could give them the victory
They got it
This is the best
This is the best layout
That we've had
You guys got it
We'll give it to you
I disagree with Trey-ung
Over Talley Hill
But everybody voted him to be an all-star
Over Trey Young
So I guess I can't be mad
They made the right decision
Good job
Good job guys
And we'll let you have
We're not even trying to match
We can end it there
You guys beat us today
For today
You guys are lucky
Nicole Yokers came at number 5
And fucked us over
You guys are lucky
We got screwed
by Miles Bridges.
God, man.
And what that means said,
that's the end of the stream.
Appreciate y'all coming through.
You kick their ass today.
We'll be back next week.
We'll be back stronger.
We'll be back for victory.
More locked in.
We won't let this happen again.
What the hell was that?
We'll see y'all next week.