The Deep 3 Podcast - How To Fix Every NBA Team's Biggest Flaw In 1 Day | Ep. 179

Episode Date: January 16, 2026

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We have spent several weeks on this show around this midpoint of the season, identifying problems, talking about one thing that every single NBA team needs to decide in 2026, talking about harsh truths, NBA fan bases need to accept. Today, we're going to do something about it. We're going to give every single NBA team one way they can fix their biggest problem, their biggest flaw in their roster in one day with that day being the trade deadline. Today, trade deadline idea episode. Hell, yeah. We saving some of y'all broke. Lies. If your team sucks, this is how you make them unsuck.

If your team is good on the precipice of being great, this is how you make them great. One move every single NBA team should make it the trade deadline. Some of these will be realistic based on rumors, things they could actually do for some of these teams that you might be frustrated with because they're probably not going to do anything. It would be things that you want to see them do. We want to see them to do all of that. Should be a fun one. Oh, yeah. Before I get to that, though, before we cue the intro music, remind you, check out our Monday podcast episodes.

We now do a second episode every single week on Monday. For an hour and a half, there's a shorter version of this where we go over the news of the week. We still do some TikTok time stuff. Go over a main topic that is in the title. This time we did a draft of the best duos in the NBA. Kind of like a group ranking of the top 20 duos. That was real fun. Yeah, towards the back half of that was hilarious.

Very unsearous conversations. But conversations that needed to be added when it comes to thinking about where the duos lie in the league today. Yes, I think like I said, that's really the episode where we break down the news from over the weekend that we didn't get a chance to talk about in this episode. It's at the end of the week. So check it out. I think is a very not very different slightly different vibe

from these episodes a nice addition to our content calendar yeah with that being said cue the intro music let's talk about the NBA trade headline

and how to fix your terrible team's lives we're throwing it back whoa that's crazy he was bragging I don't need the cranium is crazy

oh my god Crown Eaters rejoice. Let's start off with the Atlantic Division. I want to do this one first because over the last week and a half or so, I feel like I haven't had a chance to catch as many Knicks games as usual. Sometimes you go through a week and two. You're not missing nothing. You go to the weekends.

You're not missing nothing. Sometimes you have a stretch where you just look up and you look up and you look at, oh, I haven't watched X team in two weeks and go tap in. But I've been looking at obviously I check the scores every night. I have seen a copious amount of back shots handed out to the Knicks in these two weeks. I feel like every time I look up, they're getting beat by a team. shouldn't lose to.

One, give me an update on the next season right now or the next two weeks and then give me your idea, which I'm sure they're on your list. Yeah. What should they do to fix their problems at the deadline? They are on. They're hanging on by a thread. It's not even like, it's not even can we win the East at this point. We'll get there if we have the opportunity to get there.

Right now, the Knicks are just completely lost. And I think like, so they lost last night to the Warriors got destroyed. No Jalen Brunson. He got hurt the night before at the start of the game against the Kings. They got ran by the Kings. And so that's coming off of, you know, they had a couple games. It was like, okay, maybe we're playing everything together. Coming off the heels of a four-game losing streak.

And now the 3-7 in the last 10, they are once again, let me check officially. Three and seven. Yeah, once again, officially below the Boston Celtics, they are third in the Eastern Conference, only half a game up on the Raptors for the four spot. So even in the upper echelon of the. Easter conference, they are falling or falling and falling. I think that right now everything just looks completely disoriented and cat still hasn't gotten back to cat levels of last year.

We've had, oh my goodness, we've had moments of OG just like, when we did our top 40, I was like, listen, OG's out here has a claim to be on this list. In this moment, he does not have a claim to go on that list. There's probably never did, to be real, but okay. But there's just, there's a lot going on. And even with the bright spot that has been Deuce McBride and Talakolic and everything, this team, and the bad part,

we're going to get into it with this trade is like, this team is what it is. There's not a massive move that they can make that is not going to completely change the foundation or the fundamental being of the Knicks this season. So for me and the New York Knicks and the one trade that I have for them is you trade Yabaselli and you... Yabu Sely, he always got to get sacrificed. At the bidding war commends.

Yeah. So we're trained Yabuselli and we're trained Pekomei for Najee Marshall. Okay. That is the one thing. So when I think of Najee Marshall, I think of a big wing that can handle the ball, solid defender, solid shooter,

is like it's average on those parts, but really a big wing that can do some secondary ball handling? Is that what you feel like they're missing? I think so because, and I feel like the secondary ball handling and just a little bit more like size and defensive versatility up front. because now that like because colic has been so good which is awesome and because deuce is shooting

the lights out from three again awesome you're playing brunson who is what six two listed you're playing you're playing duke mcbride who is brunson's taller than moe probably not i saw he was looking at i don't think so probably not oh i forgot about that picture that picture was damning yeah i know so i that was wow rude rooops ethical that means he might be looking me in the eye me and Kenny or nose to nose too. My mind knows the bottom half of his nose and he's supposed to the top.

So you have Brunson, you have Deuce, who's essentially an undersized shooting guard, and then you have Colick, who's also another small guard. Those are going to be the guys. So you know that you're not going to have a lot of size in the back court.

It's Colick the guys? He's in the inner now? I think so. You're going to play out for a rotation? He's got, he's going to try. I think, I think he's going to try for real.

Reassuring. Yeah, but like, I think he's played well. And obviously, like, you have the NBA Cup stuff where he, like, showed up. And so that's going to, it's going to be a factor. And he will get the opportunity to show whether or not he can play or not. But ultimately, when you get to the top of the rotation, the wings, it's Josh Hart, it's Mikhail and it's OG. Because Jordan Clarkson, he's giving you buckets.

He's not giving you anything else, right? Landry Shamet, he's giving you buckets. And if he's giving you threes, he's not really giving you too, too much else. I think that Najee Marshall is, one, one of the only moves that they can make. and two, gives them a little bit more of what they need. And three, this team compared to where they were even last year, especially two years ago, the dog is not here. Damn.

The dog is not here. And I think that Najee Marshall, there have been moments this year where you look up and something happens. It's like, somebody should have been at minimum shoved. You said two years ago? Yeah, even two years. Interesting. Yeah.

I think my dogs. They don't mess with cats. I see a pattern. I see a pattern. Yeah. I mean, let's really talk about it. Last two weeks. Boo.

Last two weeks of 28th in defense. I wish I had a tomato for a real. Last two weeks of 28th in defense. Now, we can't let him get that off. That was nasty. That was so nasty. You deserve to feel safe for that. I don't.

28th defense of two weeks. That's not great. Yeah. 16th in offense? Like, you can't, you can't have a stretch for more than a week where you're a mediocre offense for this team. You're just not going to survive. And like obviously there's always like every single year. You're mentioning all these like good game by game, week by week performances,

all these players on the edge of the roster. With a team like this, people are always in a default to can, cat, and run some work. These two weeks it will be like a reason people to look at this and say, no, it can't. Because if you get two weeks like this where your defense is cataclysmic, because those are your two best players and it's hard to move around that, if the offense isn't going to be how it's been all season where their third overall an offensive rating, the floor is so low for this team. Right now defensively, they compare it to teams like the Utah Jazz,

Sacramento Kings. Now they're not that is similar to the jazz in the type of... They're not. They're not. They're Lowry, Kat and Brunson is a great value version? They're not.

The New Orleans Pellicans. Like, that's the level of defense that they're playing right now over the, over the cat course of the last two weeks. Oh, they're worse than the Pelicans. Yeah. They're a lot.

They're four points for a hundred possession words. Yeah. This is my point. You just need more options. And also, because, and you'll see in a playoff series, the things that the Knicks have gone to is,

Oh, it's okay. We're going to start, we're going to start Mitch Robertson. We're going to give him time. He's going to be able to fix our defense. When he's hitting 18% of his free throws and now we start doing half of Mitch and he can't play more than 15 minutes, now what? Tough. Right? So you need some other option and somebody else that has some decent size to be on that front line.

And so, again, this is that this salaries are like end up being like $9 million combined. Like it's not, it's not major. I'm not saying it's going to ultimately fix it. the Knicks, but you have to try and make something, and that's what it is. You know how I got for you? Who? How many picks you guys have left to trade? Can I get a swap from you?

Potentially. Jared Vanderbilt, welcome to the New York Knicks. You know what? Come on. Oh, hell no. We can't do that, man. He had his best you were playing alongside Cat. They got some chemistry. We can't do that.

Listen. We'll be in touch. My people will talk to you. Next to you. Real quick, even if you guys do trade for someone like Nazi Marshall, like I think your fate is still already predetermined. Yeah, he's not your lives. Yeah.

He's not a good enough defender. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, they're cook. Next team. All right, next team in this division. What is one thing that's, here, actually I'll go next. Brooklyn Nets. Okay.

One thing to fix it. What's the biggest problem right now? How would you identify the biggest issue with the Nets? Man, this has been like one of the more better seasons for them, at least morally, because you got the MPJ thing working out finding. They have like a royal player. The Cam Thomas sings or whatever, but Zaire Williams is playing well. Darren Sharp is playing good as well.

Nick Claxton has like changed the style of his game. I don't know what you want to do to change because they're a tanking team. Yeah, exactly. They're taking team. So there's not really a problem per se when you're trying to lose.

They're not trying to lose. They're not a bottom feat like the wizards that are wrestling the star they're traded for because they purpose you want to lose. They're kind of doing a little in the middle thing where they're trying to play respectful of basketball but they're not out here training for stars. You know, they're kind of trying to do a little bit of both.

Their biggest problem is deciding what's to do my hipboarder junior. is the will they won't they do you complete the ultimate sell high or do you keep him as a future piece of your team that is a problem that I think has a debatable answer I think it's fair to argue for either side but the only problem they have is

seemingly not knowing right yeah you got to make a decision how do we fix that problem you make a decision complete the ultimate sell high get Michael Pugn't Jr. out of here trade him for two to three first round picks do this the right way yeah he's happy there yeah it's the perfect

team for him yes he loves to get these numbers off and maybe you'd love to have him get these numbers off for you for the next five years. Maybe you view that as a temple of your organization. I can't know. I don't know what the reports are out of their front office if they really, really view him as a future piece or not. I know they put smoke out there. They value him for trade negotiations potentially. Maybe it is true. And they want him to be the building block, sort of like their library marketing. Find this diamond in the rough. Make him be bigger than he ever thought he could be. That shit's ridiculous. Let's trade this guy. We know what he is. We know he can

scale up like this and it's impressive. We know what happens if we want to win one day. His age, By the time we get to being good, he's going to be like 31. Like, let's trade this guy for two, maybe three first-hound picks. And let's keep flipping, keep stacking assets, rebuild the right way. Yeah, I've mainly been on the train of like, let's just keep him. Again, because I already feel like in all, you kind of already won this whole like trade saga. But it is at this point, if they were to trade them, it is the very much like win-win, very transactional thing of you came here.

You were able to get your shots off, able to get your buckets off. You proved the nuggets wrong. You proved everybody wrong that like you're not a winning play or whatever. And we get to get, you know, a couple more first-on picks. I understand the thing that you said about debatable, I'm with you. Like I really don't think that there's necessarily a wrong answer. Yeah. The only reason why I would say to keep Michael Porter Jr.

And to not get those extra first-on picks because at this moment, I don't trust the Nets with multiple first-on picks. You had five and it's like, I still have no idea. You're right. They could keep him. They have a million young guards. He's a four that fits. It's fine if they keep him. But I think one of the telltale signs of a good organization is maximizing value and all sorts,

this is the definition of maximized value to not make it. Maybe I'm wrong and he's just a star forever now and he just hit a new level and you have an all store in the door. Keep him there. Or maybe this is the peak of his career and is the guy who's a career role player that is best served as a role player and we maximize the hell out of this crazy opportunity we have. Like I said, the ultimate sell high window and keep it moving because our timelines never had 27-year-old Michael Porter Jr. cooking like this in it before in our plans.

Stick to our plans. Give more ammunition than we ever thought we could get out of Cam Johnson now. And just keep it chugging and keep doing things the right way. Yeah, I agree. I think one of the most annoying things to witness team zoo is hold on to specific players for far longer than they should. And one of the more like racetrades. I haven't gone to haircut like three weeks before since that trade happened. I don't plan on getting hair for a long time. It's been a week and a half

Beatty's not budging It's been a week and a half So I was supposed to get a haircut Like a couple of days ago But I was like Yeah, I looked at myself In the mirror I was like

But the rumors He was already swirling by then He knew Yeah He felt it Yeah What? Fuck you man

Yeah I got next time Next team Michael Ford Jr., Please get traded My next team My next team The Toronto Raptors

Okay This team is such In a interesting place Brandon Ingram has been Decent for them Better than worse They still have

RJ Barrett on this roster. Scarlett Barnes is hooping his ass off, specifically on the defensive and offensively he's been fine as everything good. Conmarry Boyos has ascended or has been ascending as of late recently. Dude, he's awesome. He's been like the ultimate like impact player. We can just do so many different things. Play absurdly strong block shots and not.

He can do a lot, man. Special player. Now, this team is in a position where they have like, of course, so many expensive guys, RJ Barr, Scottie Barnes, Brandon Ingram, Manny, Manio, quickly specifically. And I'm happy he's on the screen because just a couple weeks ago, or actually like maybe last episode, we talked about how probably on the Monday episode is why you guys need to tap in. We talked about how this team offered last year the Atlanta Hawks, Emmanuel Quickly, and also a couple of picks, whether it be swaps or whatnot, they offered picks in general. So it's clear that they're not necessarily happy with Emmanuel Quickly.

And the bet that they placed on them a couple years ago just fell in their face. And so now you have another opportunity to trade for, to trade him. And I think a guy that's probably worth the swing because whether he plays or not, it's not, you're not, you don't lose much in my mind right now. And that's ultimately John Moran's. Okay. So the way to fix them is to trade for the most unfixable star in the league right now. Now, if you watched a Monday episode, I did say, yeah, no, I don't want John Morant on the Tarantraptors. And I'm, I'm spinning back and I'm like, you know what?

Okay. It wouldn't be that bad. Yeah. Okay. I think you're right. The way to fix them is to trade quickly or hopefully and potal if you can. Probably harder to trade hurdle. There's been a lot of ports that the Raptors are willing to move Emmanuel quickly.

They're listening to offers, which is a hilarious spin from them. Like, oh, great, you're willing to hand away the worst thing you have on your team. You're a saint. Thank you for doing the good deed for the rest of the league. But there's been a lot of smoke this week. Yeah. Around this time of year when there's a lot of smoke around a player that you could assume should or probably they want to move him.

It's probably real. They're probably shopping him. whether it be John Morant or not, I do agree with the sentiment that finding a way to make quickly contract into something valuable, whether it be attaching assets or not, that's definitely the move. Yeah. So along with quickly, Grady Dick got to get out of here too because he hasn't been doing too much. Minutes decrease, points decrease, efficiency. Everything is just like down to at this point. So that the specific transactions, manual quickly and Grady Dick for John Morant.

John Morant's, of course, if Memphis is one like a second round pick, sure, maybe. first, I don't know, because the value is kind of in the joint right now. They want a first. If they want a first, fuck it, you do it. Because the ultimate, like, the ultimate payout in the best case scenario, having him alongside Jahl or having Scotty Barnes alongside Jaws and Colley Murray Boyles, that's so tantalizing. I wonder if quickly a pick swap and gray dick gets it done, especially off the heels of John Morant trying to fight Vince Williams Jr. on camera.

We shouldn't get a chance to talk about. I guess we talk about it now. I'm sure we're, honestly, I'm sure we're gonna trade job and write to several teams today. We all have independent lists you make without seeing the others.

I'm sure we all have a team where we're like, yeah, go get job. Fuck it. Why not? Yeah. In terms of, I will say this,

in terms of like, John Moray teams, I think the Toronto Raptors are one of the more job-proof teams. Send his ass to Canada, bro. They don't play that shit over there. There's tweets.

This is ridiculous, man. This is why we can't have him here, but send them, send them over to Canada. This is not right. That's not right. They don't got this type of artillery in Toronto?

No, man. Dark will get him right, man. Yeah, so I wonder, so, pull him, trying to find it good. You guys have all seen this by now, this interaction they had in Berlin when John Morant and Vince Williams Jr. were on the court talking about, I don't know, what started the conversation ended with. Let's go back then. I'm right here. I'm right here.

What are you trying to do? All this back and forth. Apparently, there was a voiceover, but I think his name was like, legend something. I forget his name. I don't know. I hate that. I forget his name because I've talked talking about. for. But, oh yeah,

Legends right there. He was added right there. And he broke down the actual lip reading and apparently they were talking about a play. This is it looked like, yeah. Yeah, the play that busted down and Vince William Jr. just apparently like didn't make the right decision and Jha was like, yeah, bro, like just got to kick it out immediately. And when we see disagreements happen all

the time, but this looked like it was something else. But we've never seen star players have this amount of like static. It seemed like Jah was talking about a play. Jaws probably been annoying. They've been grading with this whole breaking up the locker room thing. And Vince Williams was like, I'm not trying to hear that. I saw one lip reading where he was like, I don't know if this was a right lip reading

or not. It might be a pretty bad assumption. Somebody thought Vince Williams said, oh, so you pass the ball? Yeah. Which I couldn't tell if that was the best lib reading of the whole thing. Yeah. But that makes sense. You're getting feedback from this guy that you're probably sick and tired of.

He's in the media talking about trades and all this stuff, which really jolly's to him doing himself. But I'm sure that the team feels the weight of all this. And then it gets where we're at now. I'm right here. I'm right here. Yeah. Now, I will say during that game,

there was a specific play during the game where Vince Williams made a good play and John Morant was one of the first guys to come out and daff him up or whatever. So, teammates do this. This is not normal. This is very normal. But in public, like,

for everyone to see him record, I don't know if that's not normal. People would argue, obviously, but this was a little like, it was like kind of fighting words a little bit. Like it was the saying, I'm right here.

I'm right here. It was what you're trying to do? Like, why we got to go out back? I'm right here. Like, it was. I,

I kind of agree with Bo a little bit more though of like this probably is just just normal and the fact that like they were in Berlin and there's people there and you know cameras are are like you're having more cameras and the fact that it is who it is you know having this type of interaction obviously like boost it up a little bit more.

He was saying I don't fuck with y'all. Like yeah I you are to right that people argue and we don't see it and it happens like these are grown men there's a lot of like implications like why it's normal that people would view this and like I understand why the why someone like Brian Woodhorse would get on TV and be like what is happening you know I understand and I don't feel like the skies fault now yeah but that but also like that's fair with everything we know but apparently he's there's a report he feels like the team's turned on him a little bit and how it went like this so fast and the I don't fuck

with y'all and like this the body language of Vince Williams not listening feels like it's something there was this um there's this clear where Udonus has it was on Amazon Prime reacting to like the whole thing or whatever last night and he was saying yeah man John Berlin right now he got a mink on all them chains you don't wear all that jewelry for no reason he was not playing man you don't pay to play with all that on your neck yeah so yeah I bring all this up just because we're going to talk about it but also he does have to go the asking price is probably getting kind of low yeah it's probably going he's probably getting pretty getable he has to go like he especially after this if this is is

something, which I feel safe assuming it's something, whether it's a catastrophe that can't be overcome or they can get over it. I don't know, but it definitely is something to me. Yeah. Things like this only get smoother over if you fucking win. We see teammates go back and forth and like actually throw fighting words. Like we see Katie and Drey Mondu back in, I think the year is 2018 or 2019 or something like that. And like everything's smooth and over when you're fucking winning. You guys are not winning nothing.

Nothing will be smoother over. So I agree with you. It is going to be something that's underlying. That's not a good example. The shit was never smoothed over and one guy had to go and he went. It's like, yeah, sometimes the shit is just broken. Yeah. The only difference is like this guy will go ahead and he'll be traded for, I feel like he should

be traded and probably will be traded within these next few weeks. Differences, like he left eventually, but he won at the end of the day. Okay, so I've seen some Raptors fans that like the idea of winning jobs because he's so cheap and getting off of the quickly contract and stuff. Yeah. TPD on the fit. You have your three best players aren't amazing shooters. Scott is shooting well this year.

And Ingram isn't a non-shooter. He's certainly a space here. Like people respect him. But he's never been like some. prolific off the ball, catching a shoot three-point shooter. Yeah. But again,

he's not an non-entity as a shooter, but those three don't scream amazing offensive fit. It also doesn't scream the worst offensive fit. Would you rather have, would you rather have suspect offensive fit with a young play that you think that you can revive

or two of the worst contracts in the NBA? Yeah, well, you're not getting up both of them. So, yeah, I'm saying you could still have one of the worst contracts, but to not have both of them is probably the allure. And so I can,

if I'm swiping out one of those, one of those deals for a guy in Jammerant who's 26 and you can, you can, you know, cross your fingers and say I can fix him. Well, that's the question. That's a, that's a, I feel like that's a better bet than betting on a manual quickly to make sure that like this deal is worth actually like so about it. I don't think I disagree, but do you think they can fix him is the question. Like, I guess only rappers know about their opinion of him and their own coaching staff

and what they think. Yeah. I kind of feel like I don't, when I watch it out this year, do you have faith he's going to be fixed at least this year? Personally, this year, this year, no. But I also think that's a very, that's an internal question. And the answer to that question, 100% depends on how talented you think you think Jha is.

And how talented you think Darko is. Yes. And if you are very confident in those things, then you're going to look at him with rose tinting glasses and say he's just in a bad situation. Everything has went south and he's going to come here and everything is going to be good. Now, if you look at him and the first thing that you see is that video, or the Instagram video

or either one of them. If that's the first thing that you see whenever you see of John Morant, then you're going to look at them and say, I don't want to touch them, I don't want to do with it, and we can't fix it. I think the biggest ramification for this for me is like,

I'm on either side. I bounce back like between decision, decision every other day. But something that scares me the most about this is like, oh, like if you do do this trade, you are, and if it doesn't work out, you are like fundamentally fucking up Scotty Barnes and his development

and what he needs to continue to grow in the lead day. That's the part of that... That's the hardest part. With Manu Cookie, that's not happening. Something I've been mentioning a lot when we talk about him as of late and I've seen comments talk about this

is I really want Jod to be forced to be a past first point guard and not a lead score. This would do that. You know, there's, Brandon Grimm is going to be a go-to half-course shot maker. Scotty Barnes is going to demand

his touches as a playmaker and a score as a secondary guy. This is a really forced Jod into being a point guard. And people in the comments have been like, there's been no indication to John Martin wants

do that, which is true. But at some point he needs to be forcing that role and accept it. And no clue if that'll go well on his end, it will be accepted and we'll buy into that. Also tough to talk about that when someone doesn't shoot off in three and doesn't defend. That doesn't scream. You'll thrive as a third option. So I don't know. I guess what I'm saying is I go back and forth on the Raptors thing.

I think it probably could work better than expected, but the downside is huge, like you just said. Yeah. On the other half of the things, would Memphis accept this? I don't fucking know. I'm not talking about them right now. They're not my team. We'll get to them. Next team, the Atlantic Division, 76ers.

That is me. I personally think that they need to move on for Jeremy King right now. I think it sucks because the highs were very high last year. But I think it's wraps. And I think now that you have Maxi and you have, yeah, you have Maxi, you have VJ. That's your back court for the future. We're not really going to be integrating three small guards into our closing lineup, whatever.

I think that they should do a swap because there's another team in the league that has somebody that you can kind of swap out for a better fit. McCain for Tariessen. Who says no? McCain. The Rockets can barely favor each shepherd to the rotation as a small guard. I don't think they can do another one. I think if there was anybody who can do it, because for the for the rockets, and I have

them on my list and so we'll talk about them a little bit more later. But I think like ultimately for them, they need. more creation they need they need more more ball handling they need somebody else and I think that at least for this year if there was ever an opportunity to where you can insulate three small guards if there's anybody who can do it it is them

and they're just going to do it with two small guards yeah with Reed and McCain and there's times where they like Reed he's been he's been great I think you can still have Reed and a man or or McCain and a man or or whatever to where

you've had a contract extension talks with Tarisan in the offseason, they weren't like 100%, you know, hey, we're in lockstep. We'll see what that goes. I think for the Sixers, if you add somebody like Tarisan, that instantly works so much better than what you have right now and you finally have a wing of the future. That's kind of the route that I'm thinking. Let's get Jeremy Kane to the Grizzlies.

You can get them to the Grizzlies, get into the Dallas Mavericks, some team that could actually use some type of guard juice. I think I like that better because Mavericks have like not much to lose and it's open season for them when it comes to point I do agree though Jeremy Kane for a wing is like the natural thing just kind of shift around gets something that hopefully you can get equal value and somebody else has promising and can be also somebody you envision being your top six or seven of your rotation but somebody that realistically if they play well can close a game

with your best players Jeremy Kane will never a single night be able to close with Tyrese Macomb yeah and that was already we were already saying this when it was Tyrese and McCain when everything was blown up last year I was like it's pretty small. Can you really ever feel the good defense? If McCain does become as good as we hope, there's always going to be the defensive concerns. Then you get VJ,

and all of a sudden, the defensive concerns have multiple concerns now with another guy above him that's just better clearly. So I'm with you. It's a little early. And again, we've talked about it.

They could just keep him as a six-man if they really want to. I'm perfectly okay, though, with swapping him out. Yeah, I just think right now, this season, six points, 35% from the field, 32% from three,

like when you found somebody and also like you invested even though that you invested like a lottery pick in McCain you invested top three pick in BJ and so that is as solidified as it's going to be. Jeremy Kane for Terrance Shannon Jr. You don't really see one for one swaps like that but a situation like that I would do that. Now if I'm the Sixers, I would rather get someone like Caleb Martin or, you know, some of that nature again because that's a more productive player. Yeah. At least right now, like early, when the last time we played with you, he had a great year, probably like the best year of his career.

So are you going if you trade if you're the sixers and you trade McCain, are you, are you talking yourself into let's get somebody a little bit on the older side that can do that can like help us right now and be good down the line or are we going kind of full project in the way that like Terran Shannon. Intertainable both I think. Yeah. Both can be fine. I think it's a chance for Caleb Martin. we'd get a mass suicide in Philadelphia. I don't think that would go well. Really?

Just yes. Yes. That's how low his value like McCain is. I don't think so. I think we're in the league they know. He's coming off an injury and the fit concerns. I think people will probably be salivating a little bit. Suicide is crazy.

You just say people don't like the trade. Why do we always have to turn things into death or like something so assinite in the NBA community these days? But yeah, nevertheless, I do agree with you. Yeah. Okay. Makes sense. Boston Celtics, last team is division.

What's the biggest problem right now? The biggest problem is they don't have bigs. And that if we're entertaining a world where Jason Tatum comes back this year, you don't feel amazing about your big man group. Shout out, Kada, he's played well. So it's not to say he can't be on your team, can't be a big part of your team. You don't feel great with him as your best center. Lots of links to Zubotch, lots of links to players like that to go get a traditional big center to give them size.

My one thing they should do to solve this problem at the deadline. go get Jared Jackson, Jr. Ooh. Anthony Simon, Samhouser, draft compensation. I don't know. Two of their negotiation with a draft compensation.

Looks like it's called two first-on picks in a second. I have a hard time gauging where Jaron Jackson's value is right now. Jaron Jackson Jr. Boston Celtic. Offensively, that's spicy. I like that.

He plays the exact brand of ball that Joe Muzulu would fucking love. You know he was a good rebounder to make up for Jaron Jackson's lack of rebounding? Who? Me is Kada. That's a fit.

That could make Kada make sense. as a starter. You still got to find at least one more big, which is very possible to do in other ways with assets you have. Now you can play small ball with Jaron Jackson in the center. You can go big with him at Power Forward.

Having Jalen Brown, Tatum, Jaron. Filthy. He can be like a fourth option offensively. Your fourth best player on a defense has the guard Jaron Jackson, Jr. That's so much better for Jared Jackson Jr. Than the role he has now was like, Damned the lead creator a lot of nights.

Okay. I wonder what that trade, like, would actually look like. The money is, like I said, Anthony Simons and Hauser gets you to $36 million. Anthony Simons and Hauser. And actually some people... You got to be some picks and including that too. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I said two first-on picks in like a second. And I'd, if I was to, obviously, if I'm in Celtics, instantly doing that, I think, like, if you're the, you're the Grizzlies. This whole thing is, it's really interesting because I have no idea internally how they want to value anybody. Because we're literally coming off of summer where they got four first-on picks for Desmond Bay. So do they think I can walk up to anybody in this league and get three first-on-picks minimum? Maybe. If that's how they're moving, then I have no idea how they are looking at the rest of the league. And if they would take a deal like that because on the same thing that we're talking about with job,

the price obviously is dropping. He's a little bit, he's a different situation. But if they feel like they can max out value with everybody, then the buyers and the contenders, who aren't going to be able or who probably won't go and give them four first-on picks for Jerry and Jackson Jr. Like, I don't know if the Grizzlies are going to be okay.

Well, let's transition there. Let's transition to the Southwest Division. Like I said for the Celtics, I think Jaron Jackson would fit for everything you understand. Grizzlies are my next team in the Southwest. Let's talk about them now. Because everything you're saying is right. I don't know how they're going to value Jaron or Jha. I don't think anybody does. It's a big question mark.

But their biggest problem right now is their star stink and they're really falling apart with their new coach and everything. But we know the vibes in the Memphis Grizzles because we know why it's not working, et cetera. I think what move they need to do? Definitively, trade Jaron and trade Jha. Both them, full on rebuild.

Like tear it down, rebuild around the young core. You've already started during this era. Cedric Howard, Wells, Eadie, on the other promising young players on the lower end they have. That's not a bad place to start. If you full on tear it down, have four first-on picks on the Bain trade, hopefully one from Jhaar and Jaron Jackson.

This is a clear rebuild need, I think. Yeah, I agree. I think the Memphis greatest, as I said it before, to say it again, one of the smarter front offices out there. And I think at this point in time, they have to realize, okay, we reach your ceiling. It sucks to say, but you reach a feeling with this era. It was a small era, but it was an impactful one. You know you can somewhat do that again. And having to think about Jerry Jackson Jr. as like the face of your franchise or trying to build

around him is disgusting. Horrible. And I think you have a much better chance at getting players who are much better than Jerry Jackson Jr. And maybe even John Morant, if you tank for a couple years while also having very solid role players around this future star that you have. And you, and whatever picks you end up getting for Jerry Jackson, Jr. And what you got from Desmond Bangor, you have seven attempts, potentially, not really seven attempts, but you could either package things from the next, like, unhappy star who fits perfectly or with your picks alone that you have. And your picks are untouched, too, which is amazing.

You have the ability to just be bad while also be respectable. And trade up in drafts. Like, you can go get, you can get, you already have three very good young players. I think Edie, if he didn't get hurt, I really do think Edie was going to be their best player when I say that, I mean, because Jaws has fallen off so hard this year, I think Eadie is going to be better than Jerry and Jackson right now. And that's an overreaction probably to 11 games,

but that's also a testament to how I feel about Jaron Jackson right now, the idea of building around him, that phrasing makes it sound like he has to be your best player and you get good, that will, that's like building around McHale Bridges. It's just not real. I do think he's more valuable to McHale Bridges. He's a very good player that like should be alongside of John Morant,

should be alongside a, you know, should be alongside another star and he has his role, great defender and all this stuff. He is not a player to build around as the core of your franchise. That's just a ridiculous statement. So I can't even imagine fathling that as like you said, a smart organization. I have to assume they know the same thing. That I am also working in that front office knowing everything that fans know. And I'm also watching Jaron Jackson every day with a keen eye seeing this guy is not

going to create a shot in the fourth quarter of a playoff game. I honestly feel like this is like a V2 for the Boston Celtics for what, the Drew Holiday trade was for them. Get another, like, not disgruntal star, but another guy who clearly is not supposed to be your number one option, maybe not even number two option, but can produce real value all around the corner on both ends. Like, it's, it's too smart. Yeah.

And it doesn't even really got to be the Celtics. Like, I like that for them, but you put Jaron Jackson on the market, you feel calls, he'll go a lot of places. Yeah. That's a player that fits with any star in the league. A 6-11 guy that shoots the ball well and block shots historically, that fits with literally any team. There would be a bidding war.

Yeah. historically. Yeah. Maybe in your situation, you can say he'll get back to that. But like, you know, still a good defender overall. Even if he's not quite DPOI level right now,

still a good defender and a good three-point shooter for his size. Just any team in the league with. You're right. I can think about the Pissons. You can think about the Warriors. Any team literally. I can think about the Warriors, Clippers, Kings, Sons, Lakers, Spursleys,

Grizzlies, Rockets, Mavericks, Pellon, Jazz, Trowoges, Thunder, Wolves, Nuggets, Hawks, Wizards, Hornets, Magic, Hats, Matrix, Cups, Celtics, Nets, 76ers. Jared Jackson's that level of player. Just that type of player. It works.

But either way, for the grizzlies, it's not a trade at both. Yeah. That's funny. Who's next in the Southwest Division? We'll go with the New Orleans Pelicans. Are you laughing?

Because it's another small thing because he's a... You're that level of where. Yeah. That's good stuff. We will go with... And the nightmare. I'm trading Zion. He's playing well again.

Exactly. And that's why. Oh, you're right. He did have that one massive dunk against Nick Claxton. You know what that means whenever you see like one, like insanely impressive dunk from Zon Williamson. He only got like five games until another injury happens. Yeah, let's get off a big quick.

He got up. He got up. We got to get off from quick, man. He only has so many more jumps in him left. He got the fuck up. That was crazy. That felt like 21-1 Zion for a second. And I feel like he, no, that made me realize.

I think he can do that like all the time, but he's like subconsciously not jumping like that like to avoid injury. I think it's like a Jaws situation. Well now I think John's low fried athletically. But you know a couple of years like last year there was this he was saying he doesn't want to dunk anymore. I feel like Zion's in the same thing. I think this might be like an injury psychology thing.

Maybe. Because he really, he could clearly, that was crazy. Yeah. Yeah, that's fair. And he had he had a couple of games that or a couple of plays that that game where he was he was going just down the lane to the rim and you can see the power. You can see the explosiveness. And it looked, it looked good.

But with with all of that, again, I'm still trading him. I think I just, I've been off the Zion Williamson train for a while, but I think that for the pelicans, you do it, you trade him to, to the Bulls. And to the Bulls also, even if you want to like stay bid, let's get, let's start having an interesting mid, right? Let's start having pieces that could potentially be really, really good and going out and getting Zion would work.

So you can, you can, and honestly, right now, depending on, you know, what day of the week it is, the price may not be that high for Zion. So you can have just a lot of salary, a lot of salary filler, one to two first round picks, and you can go and you can get Zion. No, the hard part is. One, you just said one or two first round picks. I don't know if a lot of teams want to give two first time picks for Zion right now. And the hard part is with the end of we said, I said bull, so one to two.

Sure, fair. The Zion's contract is so unique in that we talked about it with the non-injury guarantees or injury non-guarantees, I should say. They can cut them to for cap relief. assuming things go poorly again he misses more games this year which safe assumption so they don't really have to salary dump him for expiring contracts like tray young you know like like other bum all stars yeah i don't i think even even now i still don't think that you necessarily salary dumping him though yeah well if you get two first on a picture right then that's not a salary

jump at all yeah but would the bulls get up two no i don't think so two's a lot even one is worth this but they might they might they might they might they might do it and i i think it's still it's on the board and I again me personally you know how I feel is on for a bonus for zan yeah why not what are you doing tele system stability is a bonus play with derrick who we're not that for that for dear no no but for the yeah so for for Chicago like I I I'd be okay with it um it might be an overpay but it would give them one of the most interesting pieces that they've had in what 10 years Okay.

And is this your Bulls move? Do you have that many of your list as well? I don't have the Bulls. No, this is my Pelican's move. Do you have a Bulls move? I got the Bulls move. No, this is not the move. Okay.

Wait for them later. Yeah, we can talk about them later. Houston Rockets. That was me. Staying in the Southwest, what you got for them? I had the McCain trade. I'm really in on small guards for the Rockies

just because I do feel like they're the own, they're one of the few teams that can really, really insulate multiple small guards at a time. It's tough. I feel like if you do that, you sacrifice too much of your enemy. of you. Like your defense already started off and wrong. The read defense is already an issue.

Like it's already going to be tough in the playoffs in field one. You can't play both of them together ever. I get that, but it's also like KD is seven feet tall. A men Thompson is all defense. You have, you have DFS that's coming back into the fold. Jabari Smith is still there. Everywhere that you turn, there is somebody six nine, six, ten, and above that can play defense at a high level.

And so I, and I also don't think, I think for the Rockets, they're in a very interesting position because yes you do have developmental pieces in a men Thompson who's super young. Yes, Shingun is growing and it's like an all-star, a great player and he's still super young. That's awesome. You traded for 37-year-old Kevin Durant. You are as win now as it's ever going to be. And so I do think that even for a team that has players like a men, Thompson and Shangoon, they still have to be super, super aggressive and kind of in like this year, we'll go like year by year.

and like that's why like the the McCain pick if you wanted you that that's cool I think if you really really want to go all in still underrated like you could find somebody like a like a Colin sexton for them to come in and give them juice who like Conn Sexton is still scoring 15 like you can you can find that and because there's just so many times in their half court offense where there's just nothing happening bro they're two and five in the last two weeks those fans are in disobey right now. They're entering the, was it a mistake? Do we ruin our team training for KD?

Fuck. They're panicking. They're 28th in defense, in offense in that time, while they're 2 and 5, 12th in defense. And last night, like, they played the Thunder last night. And it was close for a majority of the game. And the fourth quarter starts and one OKC does what OKC does. And like they turn the defense up.

But then there's also on the other side where Houston does what they do, which is once two possessions don't go right in a row, fingers are going out we're throwing the ball to kd and if that doesn't instantly work now we start to snowball i feel like they just need more options and more people that they can throw the ball to to either get a bucket themselves or start to create some more paint touches some more advantages for themselves any type of guard for them that can score i would look at that and i would and i would look and say that that's a positive move i like that to me that's why the sex and thing makes a little more sense than the jeremy kane thing because i don't think jeremy

can's a player you're describing because I think the paint touch is the most important part. Jeremy Kane's like a stationary running off a screen type of shooter that especially with how he's played this year after the injury, you don't really want Jeremy King creating for you. But I like to call him sex an idea, like a paint touch creation guard like if this guy were like this isn't realistic, but like if Dennis Schroeder were to get bought out and they brought him in for free like that'd be great. That's like very ideal. Yeah.

Dennis Ruder, Malik Munk, that type of guy that is very flawed and isn't like a like a super valuable player overall in reality, but brings baseline paint. in touch creation that you need. I can see that. It's just tough because, like, they're kind of struggling now figuring out the Reach-Epper defense things. It's kind of rearing his head again.

He hasn't been shooting quite as well as of late. I just don't know if that realistically, like, if anything, then that means replacing Reed-Read and you hope someone that can defend better. That was something that we talked about at the beginning of the year. And even whenever Reed was playing, like,

super, super well, which is awesome. Like, we're so happy to see this because we genuinely needed it. But are we at a point where we're in the second round of the playoffs and we genuinely feel good with Reed Shepard playing 28 minutes a night. Like, I'm not, I'm not sure.

So going out and getting somebody who's a little bit more proven, who's a little bit more comfortable in those spots, that feels right for them. Okay. Dallas Mavericks, who has them? That's me. I really have the whole Southwest. Yeah, I really have the whole Southwest.

For them, just make sure that whatever trade you do make, no picks are going out. Very sure. No, no picks are going out. And I say that because I, I, I forgot who I was, what pot I was listening to, but they were talking about the Luca trade. And it's like, it really is crazy that the Mavs were, had to also attach a second round pick to Luca. And that happened. I think for them, if you trade AD, fine.

I think that, that you should. I don't, I don't know if Kyrie is going to get trade. You're probably not. He's not going to. Yeah, you're not, you're not going to do that. AD's the main one. if you are going to do that also i'm completely down with that just make sure that you don't have that you don't give out any other picks because for the next couple years like you have your pick

this year you don't have your pick in 27 you don't have control over over your pick in 28 you need to start accumulating assets because as cooper flag ascends and depending on how kari looks whenever he comes back you're going to need avenues to replenish your your team and any type of opportunity that you have to do it is obviously valuable. So that's my main priority for that. Okay. Well, that definitely specifies to Anthony Davis. Like, that's like the thing hanging over everybody. And it feels like his agent, Rich Paul wants that motherfucker traded. He wants him gone tomorrow. They're doing everything in the media. They're maybe avoiding a surgery that would make him be out to the playoffs to make it more likely he can play in March and get traded,

at least on the surface, which, you know, leads to whether it ends up going that way, leads to a team believing they get more out of him and they can trade for him for the short term. It will kind of be shocking at this point if he's not traded. So you're clearly of the mind that they should focus on graphics in that trade. Is there a anywhere that you like that you think he should probably be traded to? No, I honestly think the league has

gotten smarter enough to where they see all these stars not being available. Anthony Davis is, I'm not going to say the post post of it. He's been the postage of it over the last year specifically and seeing all the that's been happening over the last few years or really like

again, this 10 years, his tenure with the Dallas Manor. about it again on the Monday episode. This is why you need to tap in how he's literally been injured from head to fucking toe. There hasn't been a ligament that has not been touched. It's that ridiculous right now, honestly. And I don't know why any, like literally any

contending team or team that wants to be serious like the Atlanta Hawks that was talked about for two seconds. We're not trading Zachary Richersay. We're not doing that for someone like Anthony Davis. That sounds crazy to say, but it's only crazy to me because he don't play and he's so much money and he wants a contract extension. Like a team

has to have commit want to commit so much in nor uh for anthony davis and i don't think anyone's doing that right we give yaka purdle a first round pick a interesting young player and a second round pick for anthony davis and other salary need to get there and we give a first round pick as the raptors knowing anthony davis is obviously inconsistent but we get off the proto contract too and that's the way we tell the mavs you have kept space to spare over the next few years you're not going to be good you're rebuilding take this proto money and you'll get your first round pick for ad you'll feel better because you'll that means you'll have added one more first round pick to the return for Luca Donchich. Nobody else is doing this. We will do it if you take this terrible contract

for the next three years. Yeah, you kind of have to do that. But it's trading for AD right now just seems so bad. And it just seems like such a bad idea that. For the next two years outside of this year, he's going to be old just about like $60 million on average. Oh my God. He has a player option in 2027. Also, I said the Raptor just because like they're in that exact situation. Ingram AD hoops is disgusting. Ingram AD Barnes is disgusting. Mid-range battle than decades That's disgusting

I don't know I've wrapped his fans That was just me saying A team that can get them A first round pick But do you think Anybody should even Offer a first round pick for AD

I don't probably Some first-on picks are garbage And like you can like You know You can get away with some protections on it Like you can trade a bad First round pick you know It could be like

The worst of a certain team Maybe There's a lot of fake first That are traded I'm just like I'm looking at AD Currently hurt right now Yeah exactly

And then by the end of the season He's gonna be 33 years old We're in year 13 of the anti-d. Yeah. Well, here's the thing. If I'm a serious team, I'm not trading for AD like at all. Yeah. But if I was a team that convinced myself that AD makes sense, which is not impossible. There's some teams he makes sense on.

I would certainly be willing to trade a first-on pick with, like, heavy protections and swaps or whatever. I think the only team who I can think about who would be willing to do something like this team that has like realistically nothing to lose is going back to what you said, the Chicago Bulls. Like, yeah, like, why not? Hometown dude, they love guys from Chicago. They got plenty of them. Why not add another one, the brando guy? We actually had a report yesterday that apparently they might be. be entertaining, finally blowing it up from one of the beat reporters.

I did. I did hear that too. Probably not. Probably not. But man, that's the case. Last team of this division, the San Antonio Spurs. That's me. You motherfucker. Damn you. Obviously for them, Jimmy Shohan, listen, thank you for your service. You've been a part of this franchise for a minute. You were here when we were down. But we're up now and you don't fit in our ups. You know what? I would have decided to keep him if you would have went bald along with Kelton

and Wembe. I don't know, yeah, let's do that. High key. Keldon made himself untouchable with that. High key, because you're showing yourself to be a good locker room presence. You're showing yourself to actually be a part of this court. And you, because you did not shave your head, you're not with them. You're not really friends like that.

So I actually do agree with that. Keldon Johnson had the greatest reputation save this year as any player in the NBA. Yes. He was probably, he was so disposable in recent years as a contract that was like just sitting there. Now he's like six man at the year level

producing like crazy is a big part of this energy athleticism they have shaving his head. Shout out Kelton Johnson. Yeah. The inverse of the Jeremy Sohan, or what do you want to see him traded for?

What player do you want to see Bruton? I need, I want, I need some more shooting for them. You're right, because they do look like desolate without someone like Devin Vissot who's been out for a few years. And brother guards are struggling.

Yeah. It's crazy. We keep saying this week after week. It's like three weeks now. Fox Castle and Harper are playing like shit. And on the year, Fox, Fox, 33% from three Castle

28% Harper 25% from three Bro, it's been bad Yeah and I'm looking at them I want them just to go go out

Get somebody like Fontecchio Someone's funky Someone's funky Just a shooter Because they Also shout out to Harrison Barnes Right he's had his moments

Where he shot well We get to the playoffs Me personally I'm not swinging the ball to you I don't know if I trust him from bars like that. Who invited you into the conversation? He's going to say, he's been playing well. This is a contract year.

He has, he has, but that's what I'm saying. Like, you can get caught up in the contract here. I'm just saying like, I do, I do feel like for the, for the Spurs, I want as many shooters. You're not touching this rock. I want as many shooters. Play D pussy. I want, I want as many shooters that are above six.

six, five, six, that they give you length. And I would like for the second best shooter on my team percentage wise to not be whimby. Yeah. I would appreciate that. And so if you can go out and trade somebody like Sohan, who's not giving you anything, you're not getting locker room vibes. You're not getting on court production. Go out and get an actual shooter.

You can do that. For sure. Definitely. It's just funny that the reason has anything to do with Harrison Barnes and not to do with all the bricks around it. Oh, crap. I would like to have Harrison Barnes and another reliable shooter in the corner because I feel pretty good about Harrison Barnes.

barn shooting at least yeah i'm not listen i'm not trading here's a mark i'm just not i just want options he's just not touching the rock i'm just greedy i just want options okay that's the southwest division let's be wander rather quick ones we took forever on those two northwest division where do you want to go first who has a team here northwest okay i got the denver nuggets okay what is their biggest problem how they fix it one of the biggest phenomenons is developed in the NBA is seeing how paint watson's just been transformed and has literally ascended in front of our eyes, bro. At the start of the year, I was like, oh, man, like, Peyton Watson looks really interesting. His three-point shot is developing. Just a couple months ago, he was

unguardable in terms of, yeah, you don't want to guard him. Like, he, he is not worth paying attention to on the defensive, or on the offensive in at all, you know? It was four on five pretty much. And so far, he's, like, literally been one of the better ISO scores in the league. He's, his mid-range game looks lethal. He's shooting well from three, still defending at a high level. He looks like one of the better, like, young wings, young ascending developing wings in the league, which is insane to say. Like, I never, I never saw this level production coming. And seeing him just beat this level makes it feel like you have to keep this guy by any means necessary. And it makes it hard because I think they are over the apron, the first apron, like a couple million dollars

or whatever. And currently, they employ someone by the name of Christian Braun, who hasn't had like the best season, nagging injuries, and he's not bad specifically, but he's certainly, like, not worth the contract in comparison to someone like Payne Watson, could certainly be making that level of money and probably going to be even more than that at this point in time. So I think something that the Denver Nuggets would want to do is quickly get off of Christian Braun and send him to Utah specifically, specifically for someone like Cody Williams. Now, Christian Ron's a good player. Did you say Cody Williams? Cody Williams, yes. What the fuck? Because right now, now Christian Ron is making like $4.9 million and Cody Williams is making roughly around the same

amount of money too. Okay. So that works. And I don't even think it would be necessary for you to like trade a pick as well because he's a good player. Again, he's not like tanking your team. He's not a bad contract per se. You just want to open up as much money as possible so you can invest more into Payne Watson. So that's the real like crux of the conversation. And Cody Williams is just like a whatever guy at this point in time. So, so I guess to, that point do you actually believe that cody williams can be something because right now so no it's not for cody okay so right now what you are describing is basically giving away christian brown is is giving away christian brown and the same way that they're like we're going to employ dandre jordan

so that yokej is on up numbers with the same we're going to do the same thing for payton watson 110 percent yeah paid watson right now is averaging 20 points a game over the last 20 games oh good and or 15 games and he's been shooting, dude, 43% from the three point line, 50% from the field. He's still, like, averaging a steal a game, a couple assists a game and all. He's so impactful, bro. I can't, I can't let him walk. Yeah, I think this is something maybe they do in the summer. And maybe they decide to move up Brown or Cam Johnson, which is more likely in the summer

to keep Watson. As a deadline right now, when they're trying to win the championship, I don't think they're giving away the starting shooting guard. For Cody Williams. That's crazy. Now. But in the summer, they'll have to dump either Cam Johnson or Christian Brown to retain Watson. I think that's probably realistic.

Yeah. Yeah, I agree. I agree. If they just wanted to get ahead of it, then this is the only move on paper to me. Because outside of that, everything is so, like, everything is amazing. And outside of, like, Cam Johnson, who's been super up and down has been injured as a late. Like, everything's been perfect. Yeah.

So this is the only thing. They're definitely not going to do it now. So their move for the deadline is to mentally accept you're going to have to get rid of Christian Browner, Cam Johnson. Yeah. It's to mentally prepare at the deadline. You can't do it now because, like you said, you're trying to win a championship. Your lineup is what it is. You won't actually make a move.

but prep the mental to say goodbye to one of your baby boys. Exactly. Something has to move and it's probably going to be Ron, yeah. When the time comes. That is end of that division. Actually, no, we just started one.

No, we just started. I was thinking that was still the last one. That's funny. So we are in the Northwest, I said, who do I have? I haven't had a team forever.

Oh, those teams, Blazers. I have a majority of the Western Conference. I have the Utah Jazz next so I can speed run through them real quick. It's going to be super fast.

30 seconds. Okay, so Kyle Anderson is there. No one knew that. Kyle Anderson, is playing good basketball, but guess what? Will Hardy don't like to play him for that reason. So, Kyle Anderson, you need to be traded to somewhere where they need more ball handing in my mind.

Hey, Minnesota, make that call. Hey, someone who could use a little bit more offense. Shit, Houston could make that call. Fuck it, bro. The Detroit Pistons make that call. Someone needs to trade for Kyle Anderson. That's all I'm saying. Okay, Utah Jazz, your one move to the deadlines to dump Kyle Anderson somewhere

to where he can play. Got you. Trailblazers. That's me. We're going out. We're getting Jared Jackson. Jr. Oh, okay.

During Jackson Jr. next to Cleaning would be filthy. And I like that a lot. What's the deal? So you have a couple versions of it. There's the main one. Jeremy Grant,

Robwell, Thibel. You give the Blazers their second round pick back for this year and then two first round picks. That's not bad at all. That's a pretty good haul for Jerry and Jackson Jr.

So now we have Danny and it's facing big next to him with the rim protector and clinging. That's our nucleus going forward. Oh, then Sharp, obviously. and we can hope that Scoo Henderson can be our starting point guard one day if he ever touched the basketball court again.

Okay. Yeah. Because I think for them, like also I looked at their cap chief for next year, they have one person on their team that is a legitimate shooting guard that is on the roster next year. I'd like to address that. But for this team, your point guards, your point guard situation going into next year is going to be much, much better, much more interesting than it is this year because hopefully scoot is healthy.

You'll have Drew Holiday, whatever he is, and then you have Dame, and he's coming back. You'll have some offense there. You'll have some creation to go along with Sharp. Back court is kind of there, whatever. Even if you don't have that, for the reason of having Denny and Jaron Jackson and Shaden Sharp to where even if Scoot,

because I have no idea how you value Scoot at this point, but even if he is not there, having Scoot, I mean, having Shaden, Denny, and Jerry Jackson, Jr., can get you to a spot where you are competitive and get you back on track to being like this young frisky team, whatever, get you a little bit more of your identity. I like that a lot.

And I think they can go do it. Their shooting is a humongous issue, obviously. And Jeremy McCain would, I mean, Jared Jackson would help that. Just spoiled my point. This is a Jeremy Kane team, I think. They need shooting is the number one thing. Their biggest problem, shooting.

That's the flaw that should be headlining this. Jared Jackson is a shooter. They need a capitalized shooter. And I don't know what it's going to look like when Jeremy King gets fully healthy, fully in their rhythm. I don't know what the ball handling creations and look like long term.

I am confident he will be a good shooter for the rest of his career. Yeah, I can see the happening because, I mean, right now, their version of Jared McCain is Caleb Love and he's been like a surprise and undrafted Rudy who's in college forever and now he's all of a sudden

a pretty good shooter for them day one. I can see that. Yeah, he can just get another one. They don't have any depths of shooters. Like, you don't even got, like, Jeremy Kane doesn't have to be a long-term starter. He can be a long-term bench player. That's fine.

You can close games with Sharpe and Jerry McCain if he's shooting well that day. Obviously he fits with Denny as a ball handler from the three. Kind of like that. Yeah. Yeah. Why not?

Timberwolves, who has them in this division? Guess who? What the fuck? Do you have any Eastern teams? No, I'm out of Eastern teams. No, I'm out of Eastern Team. So, Minnesota Timberwolves, they should go out

and they should get Ayur da sumo. Yep, that's the only one people talked about. I like that. So I saw a report that they don't want to blow up their depth for a guard. You don't really got to blow up your depth for Ioudsumu. So what does it look like? First of all, it's just,

It's funny because it's like, your depth is already cooked. It's not good. Yeah. It's not there. Your top six is just elite? Yeah. So I saw a trade online that was a, it's a three-team trade with the jazz to go get Kyle Anderson back. But you were having, you would get Kyle Anderson in Iowa and then the jazz would get whatever.

And then the Bulls get, the Bulls get Rob. Fuck the Jazz. I don't care what you get. The Bulls get Rob, Terran Shannon, and then two second round picks. Bulls get Rob. Rob, Terran Shannon. Two-Sandand from Chicago again. And so it's like.

You're giving up on on these young projects, but I think at this point you kind of be like, you know, it's fine. And you exactly, and you maximize that. And people, like whenever you talk about the Tim Wolves, you talk about them and like, oh, they need a guard. Yes, but you also can't have like a small guard. Like that's also one of the issues with Rob is he's just too small to be in this lineup. So I think having I. I.O. there would be much, much better. I kind of wanted to go get like a big for them

but Joan has been really really good over these last couple games So your front line is starting to come together a little bit more So that's why I think I know and they even Kyle Anderson we do just a little bit You have another old in the building I think if they do that and it went down exactly like you just said They could make the finals I think they're they elevate themselves to like a tier two team right behind Denver And that's fine like I think they're already that look one

And like, but you're right, they'd be like the best version of that because I'm not going to be like neck and neck with O KC. Yeah. But like, yeah, I think you'd be right behind Denver as a team that has like a punch your chance of beating OKC or maybe even better than punch your chance. Like they're playing so good right now on both sides of the ball and they obviously have their flaws. They're excelling regardless. Anthony Edwards is so much better. And like we've talked about it several times. We all like every regular season, we kind of just forget that they're in the conference finals every year now.

And they're they're really impressing me as of late. I like Iowa for them. I like it. I fuck with it. I don't think that the Bulls will do this because I also played the best basketball his goddamn life right now. And he's been... I think he's going to pay him.

I don't know. They should. Why not? Because they already have Gidey and Kobe White. They're trying to, they're trying to blow it up. If those reports are real... What do you think they'd be doing? Like, what's the average day in the Chicago Bulls front office?

What are you doing? Like, solving Rubik's cubes all day? Like... Eating fucking Portillo's. Playing jigsaw? Like, what are you doing? Because there's nothing productive ever happening in this front office. Can you imagine what?

Well, first of all, how many employees are they have in their front office? That's a great question. Three? Probably like three. Is there too small than ours? They just be on Zoom calls for like once a week. Just doing nothing. Freest money ever, bro.

Okay. Oklahoma City Thunder. Guess who? What does me? Who made these lists? I randomize this. That's hilarious. For the Thunder.

So they're the one team that I look. set and um or i guess not the one team but that was like uber uber realistic because they're probably not going to we've we've talked so much about them going on and get get this player get this shooter go get mpj they're probably not yeah so what would you want them to do because reality is they're probably not not going to do that i think for them what's most likely like one what would i like them to do i would like them to go get mpj i think i think bolstering up for for this year and a couple years after would be fine what i think they are going to be fine what i think they are going to do is they're going to make a move. They're going to take a couple of these first

round picks, trade them to get more first round picks in like 2030, 2030, 2031, 22, and that's probably going to be the move. And ultimately, I also think that that isn't the worst thing in the world because as you see right now, the Spurs are going to be here for a minute. I need to keep this dynasty, this pick glitch up for as long as possible. And if you can move some of, some of these picks over the next two years, which they have six over the next two years. Damn. If you can do that and push that back a couple of years, and now whenever you legitimately do go through a full cycle of all of our rotation pieces are gone, when Ludo and Caruso and

Kaysen Wallace, when they start aging out playing into different contracts, you actually have avenues to go and get more players. I have a good way to build on that. I agree. I think I'm going to do a little bit differently. I'm going to suggest one for them. That transitions us into the business. division with the Lakers.

Okay. Trade three of your first-round picks in the next few years for one Lakers pick in 2032. The same thing that the Sons did last year. I forgot who they did that with. They traded one first-on-pick for three bad picks. I don't remember. Jazz, I think.

I can't remember who did it. I just feel like a jazz move, though. Who did that? I don't know. Regardless, there's rumors that Rob Polinka is trying to trade their one first-run pick that have available right now for multiple picks to go out and make some moves and also this roster. Who's the jazz?

Do that with the thunder. They have six the next two drafts. They cannot take six players. Trade two of those and one from the, 2028 or whatever the fuck for the Lakers 23, 2 for a shot pick. So that's the move for the Lakers? That's the move for the Thunder.

Oh, for the Thunder, okay. Because that's what the Lakers are going to do, probably. If they're trying to. So now I have the Lakers here in the Pacific Division. Do that. Go out and get Herb Jones. Go out and get Keon Ellis. Makes sense.

Or go out and get Herb Jones. Go out and get Andrew Wiggins. Go trade from two players that can play defense and are athletic a little bit. I think the Keon Ellis thing's probably a little bit overblown of this, like, hidden gem, ready to change somebody's team. So ready to change their fucking life.

He'll change this team. team's life. They just lost the Hornets. Got lit the fuck up. They cannot play a lick of defense. I'm kind of okay in the idea of them punting the season because they're not going to be good enough. I cannot bear to watch, what is it, 30 more games of this defense.

I'm at the point where, while I do think it's logically right to not do anything, emotionally I can't deal with this. Go trade that first round pick for three picks and get two players. And hopefully the OKC Thunder are happy to help you along the way. Yeah, they have to do. They have to get somebody who can drop down into

a slide and do something. I can't do this. And also bring Austin Reese back, please. God. Watching these, LeBronston playing well, but watching him lead these lineups with four bench players, and keep in mind, the bench players suck for the Lakers

right now. Maxi Kleba, Gabe Vincent, and Jared Vanderbilt are the worst offensive trio I've ever seen my life. We're three highest paid bench players. Eleven million dollars a pop. Those guys are horrible. That is the most wasted Sally I've ever seen. The idea that people had to Gabe Vincent two years ago when everybody was shitting on him when he was like a little disappointing,

like still like a playable player that that's become reality he does nothing gave vitson had one game in him and that one game wasn't even the regular season it was preseason when he lit cooper flag the fuck up and dotted him with like eight threes or whatever it was the way the lakers are wasting these roster spots without reeves there they have no scoring on the bench nothing outside of their best players bro insane it's so bad that y'all got y'all called up Kobe buffkin also he's Dude, he's been, he's, he's interesting. Killing the G League. Yeah, he's like the best player at the G League.

Yeah, he's, he's been good, but I'm like, whoa, man, Kobe. All right, we're here now. They need something. Yeah, man. Yeah, Nick Smith Jr. gave a few games, then he fell off. Jake Luravia is a vital part of this team. He might be the best unskilled player in the NBA.

He's bad at a lot of things, but he's big and he plays hard and he's smart. So he's vital to them. And he has games where the three-point shot is falling and he's big and can slash and stuff. Some of the games of the shot isn't falling. Oh my God, he is so unskilled in so many areas. Yeah. And he's a very good seventh man for the team.

But right now it's like he needs to start. It's vital importance. They need him. So, yeah, Lakers, go get multiple first-round picks. Go trade those picks. The Pelicans are, oh, we're going to hold on to our players. No, you're not. Quit bluffing.

Maybe you are. I can't put anything past Joe, do Mars. No, you shouldn't. You should definitely make some moves. You're far away from being good. Cash in for some more picks. And the Lakers can give you those picks. All right.

Let's go transition over to the Clippers. Okay. You're playing the same arena. The Clippers right now, dude, I think they, I just saw this, this is an interesting stat or whatever. And it showcased their record being like 6 and 21. And right now at this point in time, I believe they're like 17 and 23. Yes.

They're tied up with the Memphis Grizzlies for the 10th. They've been on a run. Their defense has completely turned it around. Their offense has been not bad for. for the entire year. Kawai Leonard is crazy. Man. He's amazing.

Conversations will have to be had, right? He looks damn real like Pete Kauai right now, right? This might be Pete Kauai that we're watching. Hella efficient, getting in abundance of buckets in so many ways. He's a demon from the mid-range. He's cooping his ass off. Something that's been such like a polarizing topic for Clippers Nation right now is Zubach.

And a lot of people feel so dicey about him because it's play style and he got a little bit worse. You mentioned specifically at the very start of the year, Isaac, how he lost like 20 pounds and it threw off his play style. He's just regressed a little bit while also teams adjusted to his play style. And then also on top of that, too, his team has adjusted, meaning they have like a lot, like so many worst shooters on this team compared to last year. So so many things is like not going his way right now. And I don't think he's per se a worst player. But for the state of this team and what they need, I think it's probably best for them to get off of him and find more juice, guard juice specifically, permitting juice. And that's why, me personally, I think that

they should trade Zubotch, straight up, no, Zubach and Bogey, all the way over there to Boston for Anthony Simons. I think that makes them a lot more interesting of a team. They find someone like Norm Powell. We're fleecing. Yeah, someone like Norrisen who can get you a certain amount of bucket. Put the good players in the bag. Put the alls are in the bag. Yeah. All right. I love it. Put the All-Star in the back. Brad Stevens keeps all winning.

That is a bullshit return for Zubach. I'd be so mad if I was a Clippers fan. At this point in time, like Zubach's value has not dwindled, but it's not as high as it was last year. Put All-Star in the back. I'm crying. If I was a Clippers fan,

I would be more mad about that trade than if Kauai got suspended for the rest of the season for this stuff. Well, Dave. That would be so. so astronomically frustrating. Simon's too much. Oh, I'd be mad?

Now, they've been better, arguably better without Zubach all year long. Man, Brooke Lopez is 46 years old. I'd be pissed. It's not about Brooke Lopez. It's about the rookie that they need to really unleash. He's mad athletic and who is like the actual. Unleash. He's been good.

Y'all's been good, man. No, true. That verb is just funny. I know. You say, a leash, I think it was kidding. Like he's going to start a playoffs and chase the game. But for right now, and how Zubotch is playing and how it just doesn't feel conducive to winning anymore, it damn never will change their life.

Yeah, I do think they should probably trade him. No, well, they get, they probably will get picks, maybe a pig or whatever alongside that too. Yeah, the pigs make, the pigs make it was really what makes sense there. Yeah, so I think it'll make sense for both sides pretty much. Oh, it certainly makes sense for the Celtics for sure. Okay. Secondary Kings. Oh, wait, do I have the Kings?

Yes, you did. Does not me? I do with the Kings, unfortunately. What did I write down? Oh, yeah. This is going to be our second. Armies the third. John Moran drop of this episode, go get Ja.

And for them, it's nowhere near as logical as the rest of them. Just go get Ja. That's it. Why not? Let's be active. Let's go get Jaya. Let's go get Zia. Let's do it. I'm wishing nothing but the worst for the Kings, I think.

And I'm just like, somebody has to make this trade happen. That's to give us something to talk about. Let's throw him to the wasteland of the Sacramento Kings. Anything can happen. It could go horribly. It could go surprisingly decent. We like the beam a couple of times. I don't even know.

Just go get jobs. It low-key feels like that's... It feels like it's going to happen. I think so. I do think that the Kings are probably the most likely team just based on what the front office is done in the past. Based on the fact that the price probably isn't going to be crazy, crazy high. So it's going to be manageable enough to where any front office is going to be able to talk

themselves into trading for jobs. Yeah. And their problem is their guard rotation. is rudderless. Like, it just completely has no defining characteristics, no complementary skill sets, no playmaking, no defense, barely little shooting. Like, there's nothing of strength in that back court room at all. Keone Ellis is obviously in another rotation forever.

Monk and Levina are the same guy with different Pokemon evolutions. Apparently, they're treating in the media like Monk is some like terrible contract. They want to get off of for some reason. Like, nothing about their guard room makes sense at all. And we'll see what happens with Sabonis long term. We know they have the young and tracing wings that they like in Clifford and Murray. Maybe Sabona stays there. and you can just rejigger this guard room to, like, fit around all that better.

I don't know if John Moran is the answer, because, like, I keep talking about with his John Moran trades. I don't know if he's the answer to a goddamn thing right now. He's the answer to losing games with the way he's been playing this year. But again, it's all about can we fix him. And if you believe you can fix him because you have this vaunted coaching staff and this voluntary support system for this guy, by all means, go for it. Okay. Go for it.

So bonus is a good screen setter, and that would help John. I can't even, it's like you said, I can't even hate being. because I don't know if it's going to go well. I don't know if it's going to go bad. It's just going to be a move, and we're going to have to wait and see how it plays out. Yep, it'll be one of the trades of all time, and we will all have one of the opinions of all time.

I don't want that for them, man. You don't want that for the Kings? You don't want that for Jha. I don't want that for anybody. You're right. You're bad for each other. But that means I want that for everybody because of that. I don't really care of good things happen to the Kings.

And I'm not super invested in Jha at this point in terms of rooting interests. So, Mike, let the cars fall where they lie. Now, can I interest? you in a jaw three color way of purple. Oh, hell yeah, you can. What? I'm the perfect type of dummy for that.

I'll do that. Throw them in. Yeah, he can come over. A dark purple with the light purple like the beam for the jaw on the side. Come here, come here, come here. I need that. Okay.

Who has a Golden State Warriors? Me. What do you got? Go get Trey Murphy. And, okay. I think you have to, every year we're going to say this, you have to maximize whatever's left of Steph Curry.

You have to try and get people on the roster. And there's a man who actively does not want to be there who is trying to play in the media and say, I demand a trade. And Steve Gur is like, dude, you suck. We don't care. It's like, did you say something? Somebody broke just say something to me? What? So I would trade comminga and a couple of picks and I would go get Tray Murphy.

Bro, I'm trying to pull it up right now. This was the funniest shit in the world. Sean's reports that ahead of January 15th in which Caminga becomes trade eligible he is demanding a trade and then we have a follow-up report that apparently says the Golden State Warriors remain unmoved

they're unmoved by this trade request Yeah man He wants to be a top of priority list What are we talking about? I do understand Camiga I think Camiga's done a good job as a teammate You know Jimmy Butler isn't talking about Everybody's been talking about the fact that he's

accepted his role and accepted his reality well, has a good mindset about it, yada, yada. He was clearly signed his contract to be traded. And now they're talking about in the media, they're leaking out reports. We don't need to trade comminga. We could be okay letting it rock and keeping him on our bench just in case.

If I'm comminga and I come to an understanding that the coach hates me, I probably hate the coach even more, don't like the organization. They don't want what's best for me, clearly. We need to part ways. We'll sign this deal under the mutual understanding

that will be traded. Best for the team to get something for me. best for me to get a new opportunity come January 15th. And you start talking about now we're going to let you rot on this bench. I would be infuriated. I also would demand a trade. I would treat me like CP3. Send me home.

I would be as messy as possible. I would be, I would stop being a good teammate that day and I'd become an issue. Oh yeah. I'm calling the players union right now. Yeah. If we can't let these like handshake agreements, if these don't work in the NBA anymore,

everything falls apart. Like the warriors need to audit this. Like they need to trade him. Yeah. I agree. We've known this for a year and a half now. Yeah. You know what's unfortunate?

Seems like Rob Polinka likes him a lot. And there's a report that they're looking at Jonathan Kaminka. It's going to happen. I can understand it. But it's like... It's either... So I think that the worst should try to give Kaminga to the Pelicans, trying to trade Murphy back, whatever.

Camiguanian Zion. I don't think that... I don't think that's going to happen. What I actually think is... Sub-Sahir is most likely. to happen is he's either going to be a Laker or he's going to be a king. Bro, if he's a fucking Laker. A Laker. What are we doing,

man? Rob Palingen needs to have his job calls for. The problem is they're not giving them anything of value for Kaminga. The only reason the Lakers would get him is if the Warriors reach their wits end, can't get anything valuable and they have to give him away for everything we're talking about because they had to move him for locker room issues, for agent relationship issues. If the Lakers want to get him for free

for Gabe Vincent and Vanderbilt or Gabe Vincent and Klieba and like a second round pick, I suppose I could live with it, but why would the Warriors do that? Why would they give him away for nothing? Is there anybody? Just to end their suffering. If he starts acting, if he starts going, you know, Jimmy Butler, James Hardin, which is hilarious that like, he can't. Like, Maca is out here and he's going to, like, put on a fat suit and warm-ups and, you know, and tank his stock. But if he does that and become so unbearable that they say, you know, we just have to, we just have

to trade you right now, then I would do that. On the other side, is anybody, how, how many, how, how many people are still realistically enticed by the idea of Jonathan Camilla long term. One, his name is Robert Polinka because he is the worst GM alive. And the only scouting department they have is watching teams they play against.

They don't have an NBA wide scouting department and the Lakers are one of those type of stupid ass teams that trade for guys that do good against them. And Camilla had a couple of games against the Lakers. And they remember that. The NBA wide scouting department. They literally did not. I'm not joking. They just watch home games. That's it.

I am not joking even a little bit. It's like, hey, he's busting our ass. I can write his name down. I'm literally not joking even a little bit. That's fucking crazy. That is famous with Doc Rivers did for a long time when he was GM in the Clippers. Do you think Doc Rivers is scouting the league? No, he's watching who he's playing against.

And there's this few times as the Clippers GM where he did that. He traded for guys that happened to bust his ass once. The Lakers have done that several times now. So hard on Gabe Vincent, man. I don't think this is a player right there, man. God, it's terrible. He literally watched the NBA finals. we are not kidding right now

the only way I can possibly sell myself on Kaminka is they do the thing so embarrassing Mark Walter save my life please where's my iPad you got right that now you got right that down

K-U-M-I This cop fellas Nice The only way I can sell myself on this is because We've talked a lot The Lakers-Eat athletes As a baseline thing

They're the slowest, terrible team. If they did the thing where they trade for three first-on picks for one, like, for the Thunder, if they trade two of those first-on picks for, like, Herb Jones or Andrew Wiggins, whatever, and then one first-on pick, that's a shitty first-up pick we got from OKCE. Plus, like I said, Gabe Vincent and Kaliba, bullshit salary, goes to the Warriors. I could kind of understand that. You know, we pair it up with a good defender and then the athletic upside bet that I don't believe there's upside to be reaped. I can live with it if it's part of a bigger thing.

It's just like a debt piece. You'd roll the dice. Let's see what happens. I won't like it. I will not say I'm grading as well. I wanted comminga, but I can live with it if it's one of several moves, including getting defenders in the door.

If this is the move, if they were to trade the 2032 first round pick for comminga, Rob Polinka, you aren't safe. Donovan is talking about burning the garden down. Los Angeles as a whole is not safe. The community is suffering for Rob Polinka sins. The entire Al-Sugundo area. Be afraid.

So that's the Warriors. Next team is division. Let's talk about the Phoenix Sons who are on my list. Yes, sir. Been one of the most active teams in trades for the last several years. They trade Kevin Durant this summer, bring in Dylan Brooks, bring in some other pieces, recalibrate their entire organization, new coaching staff, new front office pieces. Everything from the top of those have been different and it's been for the better.

They are thriving right now. And I wrote down, how do you fix their biggest problem, which has been trade addiction for several years? for once do nothing ever resist the devil on your shoulder going all in you must rest put down the pipe bat ishpia don't make a move i agree don't make a move find it in your heart to find peace look around like inward like outward like outward wherever you need to do whatever deed you should subscribe to ask them what the path forward is

listen to that path forward because they will say stillness do you think addicts don't know they have a problem do you think a crackhead doesn't know that they're high right now you don't think jordan is like rehab i don't know see i think he's not I don't like step six right now of his 12-step program. And we got to get to 8, 9, 10.

We got to move forward in the first step to get into step 9. Do nothing at the deadline. But then you see John Morant and then you see how like your point guard position could be better. Dylan Brooks is there.

You see the, the race that they had. Are one gamble away from getting rich. They stop one bet too shy. I don't know. Let's talk about it. Exactly.

I think a lot of addicts instead of like, And they realize they're high, of course, but they're thinking about the next high. And I think this may be one of the next. What I'm saying is we got to baptize Matt Isfayah. He might just trade somebody for a second about my pig just to feel something. I was a salary of Dick Richards just to feel something.

And you know what? Go for it. If that's what you got to do, it's like how people are getting off of cigarettes start drinking a lot of coffee or something like that. They find some other vice. Go for it. Go get that latte. And to their credit.

And to their credit, it does sound like they're going to do that. We've talked, especially since like the start of the year, like, okay, well, clearly Jalen Green is going to get moved. And then there's been reporting that they're not looking to move Jalen Green and that they are, you know, kind of stuck on that. So if that's ultimately, if that's what they do, good for them. Yep, doing nothing will fix your biggest problem. It'll set a good precedent for the future of your organization. Sit this one out, buddy. All right.

Then, oh, that's his whole division. Cool. Next up, let's do the Southeast Division. Mo, I'm sure you have the Hawks on your list. What's left for them to do next after murdering your hope and dreams as a trail fan? I've said this before, said this again and again and again, and the same question still like, Bertaine, who are these bigs? We don't have no bigs. Porzingis was a swing and we knew what could have possibly happened and no one's really upset about that.

He doesn't play and when he does play, he's decent. He makes like a world's difference. and the other 80% of the time he's not playing and then we're just left with Anya Kangu as our center and him being 6-8 not the most like vertical threat is can only take you so far as a team that has so many other holes in the roster and so this is another team who needs to be a part of the Zubach sweepstakes and specifically I think I need these guys to just make a one-for-one swap between Anyaqa Kongu and Zubach they damn near make the same amount of money I think on Kongu makes 50

Zubosh made $18 million, perfectly fine swap. I think this helps the Clippers because they get a player who is a stretch five right now at this point of his career in Okongwu. And you get someone who is not absolutely like, he's not terrible.

And then we also get a lot more size. We get rebounding, which we need. And we got, we get like a post score or two. We got a big guy. We got a big guy for the first time we could play defense. Donovan. Win-win trade.

You know what to do. Pull that beanie down. Put the good players in the motherfucking bag. You heard him. Put it off in the bag. This in a game? Who is getting robbed? Clippers, I'm sorry.

You're shot of still Zubox for everybody. Guys. Oneekyll Akong who kiss my ass. I'm telling you. Clippers fans don't want him in the building. The funniest part is you were describing Anika and you were running out of good things to say. And you were like, you know, he's a good piece. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Good shooter. Y'all got John Collins. Yeah. Here's another one for you. But I do think he would be additive to their team and what they want to do in the spacing and all that. So, no, I think it could be a good fit for them.

I don't know if I like it as a one for one swap. If it was like, Oniaka, maybe a little bit of other sweetener, I could get behind it. One for one, I feel like Zubotch just like, without any context, has more value. But I do like Zubach for the Hawks. I'm once again pro the stain you're hitting on the Clippers. And I think you could do it. That would change the Seltzahawks lives. Yeah.

I think right now for the Hawks specifically. There's just such in a weird place right now. After this tri-young trade happened, I've been watching Cid McColl and basketball. God, I fucking hate it so much. Do you think they're just like punting this year? No, they can't punt this year because we have the spurs can get our pick. We have no reason to like to punt.

Wait, wait. So to remind me, I thought they just had your pick no matter what. Swap, right? Yes, it's a swap. But who gives a fuck then? Because like no matter what, they're going to be above you. So like, who cares what they get? I think morally you don't want to punt because you have the pelican's pick, whatever.

but while giving up your own pick and seeing your own pick be like top potentially 10 or 7 or whatever it may end up being it's just a shot to the heart and it's you don't have to do that you didn't train up to be that at all. But smart team shouldn't care about that. You know it's like a sunk cost at some point. I get it as a fan you don't want to see that

but ultimately like it does not matter. Like either way you're going to swap your pick with the spurs. Like no matter what you're going to get whatever the spurs get, right? So is you, even if you were to try to win the most games to make that pick as bad as possible just to say fuck you San Antonio, what do you have to get? gain out of the season, really. Like, you might as well just like,

I mean, we're trying to, I get it. We're trying to, like, take steps forward, though. Okay. And at this point in time, the only thing that would make us, like, forward is to be 500. Right now, we're fighting for our lives for that. Conceeson, dude,

last night we lost against a poorly trailways. Denny didn't even play. That's tough. Drew Holliday was busting our ass. Drew Holla, okay. Ced McCollum was so bad. He's a black fucking hole on offense. Did you watch the Lakers game?

Dude. I was on a trip, so I watched, like, a little bit of it. I watched, like, half of it until it became a blowout. They beat the fuck out of the Hawks. They were on their ass. Everything about the Lakers has been terrible. Disappeared for a night.

Luca was making every three. LeBron was slashing. Our defense was Duncan. Dude, our defense. Amen. This shit was way bigger than Trey Young, man. He was not going to say he was a scapegoer. God damn, man.

We can't do shit these days at all. And if we're going to lose, it's like, at least I don't. walk away home with something. Like at least I can walk home and be like, yeah, I got a little bit of swag. Last year, Trae Young dropped like 56 on the Portland Trade Blazers. He lost. Doesn't matter.

He got 56 points. We lost to the Blazers again. Jaylen Zalt had like 13 boys, bro. What can I walk home with? Pride, hopefully. Just else. Nothing. Despair.

Just C. McAllum and call him. Where is this elite defenseant D'Andrean walks through the door? That's my question. How are you going to handle? Dominating. We need a big, man. We need a big bad.

You know, I'm with you. Go get Zubotch because it prevents you from you from getting Anthony Davis. Yeah. And they're itching. They have the match to be a gene. They want Anthony Davis bad. I think it's over with now.

Salah came out in an interview who said that we feel confident in our big man rotation and we just want to give these guys more opportunity. I hopefully, I think that just means that we're not entertained to Anthony Davis thing anymore

after he re-injured himself, which I'm so, I'm not happy that he got injured, but I'm happy we didn't trade for him. I'm just going to leave it at that. The timing is good. You're happy you got injured before you paid for him.

I ain't you saying. If you waited a week, You might have traded for him. I ain't saying, man. Who has a Charlotte Hornets? I believe I have the Hornets. And this is pretty simple. Impressive team as of late.

They're really clicking. Lamello, Khan, and Brandon Miller is really coming together as a unit. You're seeing the vision come together. Yes. Lamello specific. Khan has been one of them ones, the most efficient, like, player on this fucking team specifically, which I guess should be to no surprise because we know what Lamello is. But speaking on Lamello specifically, over the last 17 games, guys, he's been here.

He's been averaging 21, of course, seven assists, but he's shooting 45% from three and 45% from the field, man. He's been really good. The decision making has been so much better. And I can say the same similar thing is about something like Brandon Miller is still not like a great, like individual defender, but defensively is a great help defender. And I love that. He feels like every day more and more have confidence in him and instilling a place on this team. The biggest void, of course, is something like Miles Bridges, who can get buckets for you, but those buckets are meaningless when he can't stay in front of his guy. for a lick and you can only afford that with only so many guys.

So Mello gets the past, you don't. And at this point in time, their moves are so simple. They just need to find a defender. They need a guy like Vando on this team. I'm sorry. And I think that's honestly, if you're trying to try to me Miles Bridges, I'm going to hit you. Now, I will say this.

I don't know who the fuck would trade for Miles of Brins. You don't want him on your team on any circumstances. No, but he's not trying to steal a good player this time. I was like, he should have to steal Vanderbiltz. literally for what I wrote on my on my list it's a reverse robbery where you put the bass stuff in it no he should have exchanged like it's like people it's like two bags of shit he's trying to be like dead of the night swapping now this is just old school bartering i'm not saying the gatherers here that you're gonna give a miles bridge is no one is accepting

him but when it comes to wheeling wheeling and dealing and i don't know dangling out someone like con sex and who is a good player has made impact but he's not changing your life necessarily Yeah, sacrifice him for some level of defender. That's what you need. Damn it. T. John Salon hasn't scored 10 points to January 2nd. Damn. Damn.

He peaked, man. He's at a, but, but, but he's had a positive plus minus in every game except for one. Fucker, we go home with some. So Vando, welcome to Charlotte. Go get Vando. You know, maybe they can make it survive. Vano needs to play a stretch big, but you are right. They need to find a defender at the par for a position.

It's good thing Greg Williams is back. I don't know if he's going to be good. We'll see post the worst ACL tear of all time. God, he was out for 16 years. He was out for a presidential term. So much has changed since he's done out, bro. Damn. I mean, bro, Jimmy Butler's on the Warriors.

Like he was in jail. Jared Van derby went to the hospital. I mean, Garrett, Graham, yeah, go, go get a power forward

to some sort. There's a lot of defensive power forwards out there. Yeah, since he's been back, he's averaging six points,

35% shooting. It's been two games, I think. Yeah, it's been three games. Oh, yeah. We'll see,

verdict out on him. Okay. Orlando Magic. Oh, I have the other team as well. He's so, he's so, he says six points.

35. I know he's coming back. He just can, come on, come on, man. Just came back. What's he supposed to do, man?

He wasn't average of much before that. The way you said, the way you said it was just so funny to do. It was so congratulatory. Like, we're happy for the guy. Oh, man. Like, you've come this far. Good for you. Oh, my God, man.

I get it. It's not, no. Yo, his career reputation is so weird, man. God. I fuck a gravel into the person. God. Keep pooping. Okay.

Orlando Magic. I would love to interview Greg Williams. That'd be so funny. He would be hilarious to interview, man. We have to do it in, like, in costumes, too. We're all Batman. A part of the Bat family. That will be fucking hilarious.

Orlando Magic. Franz just came back, had a fantastic fourth quarter in his game back home in Germany. Amazing. Mavagnar Hoopin. Paulebin Carroll was efficient. Yo. Anthony Black. Hoopening is continuously ascending.

Jalen sucks. He's out. when he comes back, this thing is going to be special. Desmond Bain's been slumping, but hey, like, things should be better. He's had an up and down season overall, and as time goes on, hopefully I'm assuming, I pray that he gets put in better positions to succeed. You are one of those scenes that you have too much things going on. Don't do a damn thing.

And if you wanted to do something, okay, like, Wendell Carter Jr. could be, like, moved. You could upgrade something at the center position. But outside of that, like, you just have so many things in flux. You don't even have, like, a core identity just yet. Oh, question. On Nick and Kong for Wendell Carter. It's going to stretch five in here.

Go away. There's been a switchable big defense with three power forwards. You Wendell Carter over there to Jalen Johnson? Please. Please. That's not you? Please. We'll throw on Jed Howard.

Intreat? But the good player to fucking play right. Hell no. I'm good. We're not doing that. No. No. Hell no.

I'm not doing that. Hell no. For what? Be right. They probably should like, just honestly, be happy you have four or your five best players healthy. Just be thankful in this moment and hope it stays that way so we can finally see if this team is good enough to work as currently

constructed. You don't have that time to gather data before the deadline. It's just fingers crossed. Let's see how this playoff run goes as currently constructed. We know their starting lineup is deadly. We know they could be good. We all predicted it to be good before the season. Let's just put our thoughts and prayers together all in a circle and hope for the best this deadline. Yep.

Let's just hope that Anthony Black continues to keep doing what he's doing. That could be the difference. Him making this leap. That could be difference of kind of making up for any fit concerns now you just have so much talent with your top of guys bro that that was crazy man I want four people yeah Miami heats again I have the Miami heat and this is what I'm free you were the worst randomizer I've ever seen it wasn't even me man um you are Miami you don't make

moves midseason moves specifically again if you're gonna make a move you could you could entertain the conversation about Tyler hero but there's no robust If you wanted to take a swing at someone like Jonathan Kaminga, then of course, that's obviously, like, always available. But you're playing so well. You made all these changes in the off season when it comes to your play style. I wouldn't want to risk that considering what Jaime Hawkes is doing and Norman Powell is doing. I'm good. So you have no room.

Exactly. You're the six seats. All your moves come in the off season specifically, right? You have nothing to lose, nothing to gain. Oh, they have plenty to gain. I think they can entertain splitting up Norman Powell and Tyler Hill if the right player is available. I think it's been a little more I think the duplicative stuff

that you kind of might have feared for when this season started in Norm Powell's cooking and it was like how was Tyler Hero gonna reintegrate I don't think that Tyler Hero can't fit in the system I don't feel like

they're super complimentary though as your two guards they do kind of feel like the same archetype that whether that is going big fish hunting and trading Hero which they don't need to do

by any means or if it's maybe selling high on Norm and trying to get somebody that fits the timeline of Hero or not timeline the play style

I think they could definitely entertain splitting those guys up I think with them. Oh, and real quick, sorry, before you go.

Does Eric's fucking hate Kalil-Ware? At that point, dude, should we just trade him? Because he hates

his goddamn guts. Dude, he said in an interview, a post-game conference, he was like, you know, Calil-Ware was

training towards the right direction or was trending upwards earlier in the year. He's going the wrong direction now.

He just hates the bad defensive effort these days and he just doesn't play him at all. He said several things

that was like he's not earning a spot. He doesn't play my style of basketball. fuck him. It was so direct for a coach.

It's kind of crazy. I saw a lot of heat fans being like, yeah, what's his deal? Like, this is just like unprofessional. Like, there's a lot of young players that have to deal with this and behind close doors, you'll coach them up.

Going to the podium and being like, he is a problem. Don't ask for the answer because he's the issue here. He's crazy. Yeah. Every once in a while, I feel like,

dynamite me, there's like one instance of that. Where they just find somebody and say, listen, this guy's a problem. and they get like the heat culture out in front of everybody. In terms of Hero versus Norm, my gut says to keep Hero,

but also I do think you can go, like you said, Big Fish Hunting, I think I would trade him just because he has more trade value. Yeah. But I think, yeah, I don't know.

I'm split there, but I do think if you were to trade one, probably trading Hero and getting the most out of him is probably good at that. I don't know, but that's probably the right thing. The right great player isn't available right now. Exactly. Is the answer.

Unless Darius Garland's available, maybe I don't know. You just have a three-team deal, get a point guard in the door instead of a hero. That's off-season movie right now. Yeah, not mid-season. Yeah, that's on the cast part that I'm trading him. But like that type of thing, like if a star, also-level player would become available tomorrow when we have two weeks of team negotiating, I think you could trade hero. But right now there's no clear player of that ilk that's available.

So they're certainly not going to trade hero. But I think it's worth thinking about. And realistically, probably more is like is there a norm swap out there that could make sense but again you don't need to trade norm playing good like it's fine yeah that's all i'm like there's just no mood for you guys to make at all right now sadly you got to sit this one out that's the thing there's a lot of moves to be made there's none of that are apparent so like i'm i feel like they're probably gonna actually you're right they don't always they're not super active with the deadline but yeah there's plenty

of way i was sleeping like a couple deadlines ago yeah there is plenty of ways they can improve though so i don't know it feels weird to be like yeah you're good most mediocre team in the league yeah they just they're getting the most out of all their players right now of the course is regressed offensively still he still is like one of the better defensive bigs in the league right now there's just no more like room for like growth just yet again just because of timing

Washington Wizards not me oh do I the Wizards? Yeah do I yes you do last team on your list oh I must have actually to lead him for my list huh you could do this off the cuff Wizards there's no deal for you how to make

you just did your deal Yeah, honestly. Yeah, you did your deal ahead of the deadline. You got Trey Young and you promptly sat his ass down so you're not going to play this year. If I don't know who else you can sit down and say you're not going to play this year, keep losing games.

Yeah, that's super simple. Keep finding the ways you can fill the worst product of all time. That's your deadline move. Yeah. And you deserve no more time. Central Division. Last Division up today. I have the Cleveland Cavaliers.

And guys, we got our first meaningful trade. And actually, was it a request? I don't think it was formal. We have our first looming trade request to the deadline, a new one. Deandre 100 once. out. The Andre Hunter

would like a new destination. You see, shout out to Atlanta Hawks, pumping up his value. He was looking like a six man of the year candidate, dump his ass over there in Cleveland for fucking nothing.

Let's do it, man. Sixth of the year candidate is the most meaningless award candidate ever. Six men of the year candidates so often suck and just score a lot of points per game. Like that like moniker

is so much less meaningful than like a DPOI candidate so-and-so candidate. Absolutely. Which also does the other bench players. I mean it's the worst. Yeah, there tends to be the worst players.

Yeah, That's not a real meaningful point I'm bringing up. But yeah, American Rui Hachimora wants a trade. Trade them. Well, kick him to the curb. That's what you need to do. That's your problem is deadline. Your problem is your most mediocre player wants out and that's annoying as fuck.

Let them out. To send them anywhere. Maybe somewhere doesn't like, I don't know. Especially to get out of the second apron is what they can do this deadline. There is a looming thing. Do we move around the core four and finally end this experiment with how mid they've been? Which probably means trading Jared Allen or if the right opportunity comes around trading Dary Garland mixing it up completely, that's always on the table.

I think especially with this deadline and the lack of stars that are at least apparently available to the masses right now, I don't know if I see a deal for the core forward we changed up unless you just want to trade Jared Allen, which could be done at any time, but this summer, almost certain they're going to change up the court for it. Oh, 110%. Almost certain. You can't go another year of like seeing the same level of disappointment, whatever way it happens, whether it would be injuries or Darius Garland and he gets attacked.

defensively whatever way it is like you can't like the same thing can't happen you have to change some shit up and i think they're like all in move is going to be this offseason yeah for sure yeah i think they're going to change it up at least soft season so for now you prep for that you get out of the second apron you trade dionjah hunter for another wing which is important because the hard part of trade diont hunter is all their wings are hurt right now dean wade and uh shrews have been hurt all year your wing room's already bad that's why you got dionjah hunter that man is not a defender at all you need a defender try to trade him for a cheap defender to get you out of the an apron and allows you to actually move a full flexibility next summer.

This is, since his rookie year, this is the worst efficiency that he's had. He's never shot 30% from the field. He's never shot below like 43% from his career up until, again, his rookie year and this year alone. He's like not hooping, not hooping at all. That's tough. Yeah. And if his shots aren't falling, he does not bring any to defense, does not bring tenacity

on the boards. It's not a passer. He just floats. Yeah. They really, like the vibe's already so bad. We go. Like we just we don't have time for this Yeah we don't

Yeah Next one I have Milwaukee bucks You I feel like at this point We just got to do a general update And our thoughts on the Yannis thing Because we all know that the story

With them is Yonis Yeah Latest thing he said He's not demanding a trade It's not happening right now Dow The interesting part is They've gone their backs blown out

Since he said that With Yonis playing Against teams they should be While being pretty healthy The most embarrassing Loss specifically to me Happens to be against the Minnesota Timberwolves.

They played Rudy Gobert. He didn't play because he was suspended because of Flagher and Foul stuff and he had to miss a game. Anthony Edwards didn't play that game as well. This game was led by Julius Randall and Jaden McDaniels. They dropped them the fuck off

and were blowing him out by fucking 30 by halftime. Nobody could miss a shot. It got so bad to the point over the last few games where I think it was last game or two games ago where the fans are actually booing Janus in the whole team. and he was booing back. What are we doing?

It's toxic. And it's such a weird thing because Janus won't request to trade because he wants to be loyal and we've talked about it at length. We know his whole deal. Fine. They're not going to like,

no Bucks fan wants to trade him. We're kind of reaching a point where you're starting to see a little bit dialogue in the Bucks community where it's like, yeah, we're better off if we trade him. But we can't do that. Nobody can say I'm going to choose to trade Janus.

Like just in, like for some reason you're never going to choose to trade. Yes, you can. Yes, you can't, but you should, I think. fine fine and well you can do anything but you know what i mean well one this is what a lack of honesty does but and it permeates yeah and he's doing the thing where he's just like trying to you know do do whatever have you break up with him and i think it's i think for for the bucks like if we're if we are not going to be in the plane if we're not going to be the eight seed and we're

not going to be this like spunky team then really at really really you have to go because that That's the one thing that you can hold on to if Janus is there is that we can we can be this, you know, we can punch above our way in this fun underdog and we have our superstar and we're only going to win 41 games, but it's going to be a fun 41. So that's if that's not happening and if you're getting pieced up the way that you are, regardless of what you're saying, I do think that everybody should be on board at this point with trading on. Yeah. My updated thoughts on this and then we can talk moves. You can assume whatever comes with this. I think clearly they need to fire Doc Rivers, whether it be now or the summer. Buck's going to be the first to tell you he is the issue.

Predictably so. As soon as he was hired, we all said, what the fuck are you doing? Fire Doc Rivers, get Glenn the fuck out of here, let him retire to his golf courses, let him retire back to TV. I think at this point you sit yon us down and say this year is cooked. I don't think as a GM we should trade our future first round pick to go all in for this year for a distress asset. That will not get us to give you any realistic chance of winning a finals this year. Just not a chance in hell you will have a team good enough to. to win the finals.

I've always said nothing could be 0% with Janus. This is 0% with Janus. You're not winning a finals this year. If I'm wrong, I'm happy then, because they're that far away. So you tell them this is a waste of year. We're punting. Let's try to get the best traffic we can.

I think with the hawks thing, right, they get the least favorable of Pelicans or the Bucs. They're not going to catch the Bucs. I mean, the Pelicans. So if they tank, I think I saw a Bucks reporter say they have a 96% chance of getting a top 10 pick.

Yeah. So tell Janus, Let's try again next year. You can stick around, but this year we have to try to get a good pick, either to get a young player in here that can change our lives or give us a really good trade asset. If Yonis is okay with that, cool. Have fun wasting your age 31 season. Next year, we'll try again when you're 32.

And we'll keep doing what you want to do and you'll stay around forever. Or if Yonis has a backbone, he says, bet y'all tank, now's the time I got to go. You force my hand. And you have effectively forced his hand. Now you have a direction. Yeah, that's the big thing is that your move needs to be a legitimate sit-down conversation with Janus and figure out what he wants to do

and that way everybody can operate accordingly. Exactly. Tell Janice what's best for us is to give up on this season and not make an overreaction. Is that best for you? No, clearly, but are you okay with not getting the best case for you

because you want to stay here? You decide we'll capitulate. Yeah. I agree, man. And clearly Janus should be like, bet, send me anywhere else. But honestly, even if he wants to be Devinbuker and wants to rebuild with them,

I can kind of understand it. Like, you don't have to ring chase, I guess, as a legend. If he wants to do that, I'm cool with that. Yeah, you say that. I'm cool with whatever he wants to do. My whole thing, I've just been upset that he hasn't come out and explicitly said,

this is what I want to do, this is what I don't want to do. Exactly. Stop saying I want to win a ring every year then. Say, I want to rebuild and eventually win again with the bucks, which I can fully respect. If you are okay with entering this four-year plan of getting back the championship standards with them, and you're okay saying, I don't got to have a chance to win a finals every year, which of course you're not can explicitly say that. But if you're fine with not having the best chance to win a title every year and you can play the long game

because you want to retire here, I have absolutely zero issue with that, but there needs to be a heart to heart from him and the team to decide that. Yeah. Because trading your first round pick for Zach Louina, whatever the fuck, would be insanity right now. Yeah,

that's obviously I'm not going to say, I was going to say it's franchise suicide because it's just a singular first round pick. But for where they're at, they need all the picks that they fucking can get, bro. No, it's horrendous. You say it's a singular first round pick because others are already gone. Yeah.

So you're just extending the window of you not having total pick control. Like, it is quite terrible. Yeah, I agree. My last two teams are the Chicago Bulls and the Detroit Bist Pistons. So for the Bulls, I think this, ironically enough, I have these two, like, making a transaction with themselves. So the Bulls are going to end up trading away Kobe White to Detroit in exchange for Jaden Ivy, just a one-for-one swap. Okay. So proven Kobe White versus, or proven Jaden ID versus Unproven.

Now heavy, when it comes to Kobe White, heavy on expiring contract, Kobe White, who clearly isn't going to get an extension from the Chicago Bulls. Is that clear? I don't know what the read is right now. Feels like it's not going to happen. I feel like it would have happened. If it was going to happen, it would have happened. It's still like there's no traction at all.

It feels like it's going to be out the door and why not capitalize on him and send him to Detroit. Obviously, like, for the Detroit thing, we all know how they're fantastic defensively. Guys have ascended. They just need more juice. And Jay and Ivy's career has been somewhat of a day. disappointment, not necessarily to his own fault because he's just been hurt and had devastating, just worst timing injuries of all time. And him being in Chicago just gives him a fresh new breath

of air opportunity to do whatever and be whatever he wants and have like just completely reset his career. He has an opportunity there to be great. And for Detroit, hey man, you got another guy in the building who can legitimately be like a 17, 18 point for game score, someone who you wanted to be Jaden Ivy, be someone who's proven to be a good, like, decent tertiary playmaker, someone who could also, like, spread the floor pretty well and get his own juice and you won't have to rely on Cade overly. So that's a simple move for the Chicago Bulls and the Pistons. Of course, for the Pistons, we also entertained the whole Michael Border Jr.

conversation before we entertained Larry Mark and also, man, let's make a deal with the devil. Let's go over there to Indiana. give me one year of Pascal Seacom and I'll give you Tobias Harris and Karras Levert. Let's do it for one singular year and see what happens. Why not? What do we have to lose? And I'll give him right back to you at the end of next year.

Let's see what happens. Let's see if we can make some shit shake. The last time I seen Pascal Seacom in the playoffs with another 6-7, 6-8, light-skinned guard, took him to the finals. Let's see what happens, man. If that happened, if I'm Tyrese Halliburton, I'm blowing out my other

keys out of spite. How dare you do this? That's obviously not going to. What has gotten into you today? Why are you robbing all these teams on a low level, low level all stars? That's a joke.

That's not going to happen. Let's make deals with that. Why not, speaking of the double. Indiana Pacers. Go get Daniel Gafford. There's bigs for the taking. You need one for next year.

You need one. Go get Daniel Gafford. I don't think he's that expensive. There's talks that we're trying to get rid of Benedict Mathrin. It can be part of that deal. Maybe you can get a little other sweetener. I think Benedict Mathrin would make sense for the Mavericks in their timeline.

Yeah. You know, nice little swing. Even if it's not Benedict Matherin, go get Gafford. I'm sure the price isn't high. I didn't sit down and think about the exact pick compensation. I'm sure you can be had for a mildly interesting player and two second round picks. Yeah, apparently they're also interested in, um, on Yak of Congo as well. I see in people's, um, why has his name in people's mouth, I don't know, but I get it. Someone who feels similar to Miles Turner. Um, and you can I understand it. I understand it. Sure. Yeah, of course. Yeah, because any bigs. I understand Yeah.

I just don't anything they're trying to do. Sounds good. I guess so. Daniel Gafford, you are a pacer. Make it happen. Or go.

Get him to Lakers. I love like Daniel Gafford. You'll take anything. I like Daniel Gafford. Thank you, it's a good dude. Aiden's a good stopgap for this year.

It's fine. I'd rather have Daniel Gaffir for next year. Yeah. No laws would be crazy. Yeah, a little cheaper. No much safer floor. Give me Daniel Gafford. Good job.

And with that being said. That is one move for this straight deadline that could fix every NBA team's biggest flaw in one day. Hell yeah. We did it. It's time. For what? Moe's raising the roof.

I'm raising the roof. Give me your attention span right now. Put it in a fucking bag. We're off at TikTok time. Welcome to TikTok time. Today we are once again going to begin with the draft. We're going to stick to a theme we've been doing for a few weeks now. We are into a draft where the topic,

is not predetermined. We are going to do a draft where we spin a wheel to see a series of teams in which we will draw our players from. But this time we're doing it with building players. You guys know this works. Body, shooting, passing, defense, finishing. Only rule is each round will have a new team

you can pull from. Okay. Don't do all-time or current? All time. Yeah, all-time. Okay, let's do all-time. Let's start that way. So round one, I got the first pick,

Moe second pick, Donovan, third pick. This is our wheel. Every single NBA team on it. Let's see who we're starting off with. Maybe current would be more fun. It's going to be some duds. That's the current. Yeah, well, not current.

So current teams right now. First team, we got the Houston Rockets. Okay, that is a good one to start with. Ooh. It's pretty simple. Do you want to do it? So the version of 2025? Yeah.

Okay, so KD, you're not getting like Prime KD? No. Okay. Then 2026 players give me a men Thompson's body. I'm going to pass up on Kevin Durant. Yeah. Okay. I can understand that.

When it comes to... Give me the athlete. I think more shooters will come around. Bodies? Like, there's not too many that's better than a men. Yep. It's top five body.

Good bod. Okay. Okay. All right. So I'm next? Yep. Wheel. No.

Still rockets. Oh, still rockets. So we're all doing... Oh, we're not worth of rotating. Okay, cool. Shit. All right. Yeah.

I guess the best option for me is shooting when it comes to KD. There's not too many shooters still better than KD. Yep. Still a great pick. Don't know

I feel good about it Um Kind of tough now Yeah It is it is kind of tough I could go with the deep cut Or somebody Not not even a deep cut

It's just somebody off the Of the path I feel like I can get a better Passer than Shangoon Yeah Give me like Give me like Tari East and defense

Okay Okay that's not bad Not bad Yeah that seems like Like a solid way to go It still gives me a little bit of versatility. You couldn't want to read shooting.

I feel like I can get. She's still like, yeah, I feel like shooting. There's plenty of good shoes. Okay, nothing for Shang-Goon. That's funny. Nothing for their best player. Oh.

Yeah. We'll see, we'll see. He doesn't fit right now on this. This is not a good draft. Round number two, which team do we got? Please. Going around. Stay there.

Oh, you almost got the nuggets. Brooklyn Nets. Hey, you were smart to pass someone shooting. Yep. Y'all are lucky. Where are we going? Y'all are lucky. we are going to take Michael Porter Jr. shooter.

Yep. Damn it. Hey man, we're cooked. What skills we want to go to here? Damn. Okay. Off the dribble, fall away. Horizontal.

A man's body. Okay. Right now, go ahead and take a body and keep it moving. This is so, I don't have to do that right now, though. I don't have to do that. I'm looking at. at this roster up and down.

I'm thinking about all the relevant players. Like Nick Clax is the only relevant one right now. Cam Thomas as well. But is he passing? Is he playing defense? Is he finishing? No. Yeah, just give me Claxton body.

I'm going to call it today. Claxton body's not too bad. You have some time. I mean, honestly, is Claxton's body that different from 2026 KD's body? No. You're kind of smart KD. Yeah, he can move. Long, lengthy, big.

Okay. Give me Yeager Dendman's passing, I guess. Hmm. You know, he probably, he doesn't, if he had the body to get by people like a man, his passing would shine. Yeah, you tell you something. If he has the vision shirt.

Yeah, it's not too bad. We'll see. I mean, listen, I can. What else am I going? I'm going to get Cam Thomas shooting. I'm good. I'm good. I'm truly all right.

I'll find a better shooting. You're just not passing. No matter what. I'll find a better shooter. Round three, who we got. Next team. Please Warriors. Oh, Trailblazers.

We don't have free throw drawing on this list. Damn it. Okay. This is an interesting one. Shooting, finishing defense. There's some interesting traits on this team. Yeah, there is. So finishing, we don't get vertical for finishing.

Finishing is vertical is like body. So I'm not going to pick Shade and Sharp. He'd just be jumping. Give me Denny's finishing, I guess. He's a good slasher. Yeah, he is. He's a more skill slasher than a men probably. So if he had a men's jumping.

This is just the best version of a men. 20 free throws a game. Oh, please, I can't see that. I can't see that. 25 free throws a game. Okay, so clearly I'm building a big, so just give me Donovan Klingin's defense. That's great. You're fucking cooking.

Good Lord. Cool. This is crazy. This is pretty simple. You're building Wembe. You're literally building Wembe. That's shorter. Yeah.

You're building Chet. You're building Chet. You know, you're literally having chat. I think so. But Clax and damn the same body. KD. You know, he loves him. Oh, yeah, I am.

You're building Chet. Trying to think. There's a lot of options, honestly, on the Trailblazers. There is, and I guess, honestly, If the vertical goes with body, give me shade and sharp body. Okay. I didn't want his body, though, because he jumped real high, but he's like not that fast. So it's not that big.

But you can't jump. Yeah. His vertical with MPJ shooting and Tar East and defense, that's a nice way. That's a nice way right here. That's a nice thing. Hey, you're cooking. Next round, next team we got. Let's spin it one more time.

Please don't give it dawn of anybody good. Ooh. Fuck, thank God. He already picks shooting. Go on and State Warriors. No. Oh, are you picked shooting too? Golden State Warriors.

Okay. Fuck. Don, you know, where we going? We are going with Steph Curry finishing.

He's such an asshole. You didn't want to get him to get Steph. No, no, he's not going to get him. I love it because I was going to

get to get him. There's no way that he can be third in this round and leave with Steph shooting. I refuse. Step Curry, listen, still at the,

at the rim. I'm getting any reverse I want. I'm taking Steph Curry finish. That's nice touch right there. we can be in and also if step kerry could jump like shadd and sharp oh my goodness that's jellypan

right there damn okay so it's either passing or finishing only two options here dream mont's passing has been ah this year but he's still good of course i think what i'm going to do is give me jimmy bowler finishing yeah okay i like that i feel like if you're going to get free throw drawing, it's going to be in finishing. So you got some grifting to you. Yeah. It's not bad. Give me Dremont's defense.

I don't even care about Curry shooting. If Dremont had a men's athleticism, oh my God. With that brain? That's fair. You just building like prime German green. Like a super charged prime german. I'm building the idea of the men Thompson. Yeah.

Okay. Last round. All I got is shooting. Please give me a team with a good shooter. Please. Please. Because I passed up on KD. Pistons.

I passed up on KD. Sons. Yes. Not that many good shooters. What shooter I want from the Sons? Get 33% Devin Booker. Why not? You have a couple.

You have a couple options here. I do. Go ahead. What kind of shooter I don't want to be? I could be a mid-range shooter and get Devin Booker. It's not the worst. The three-point shot hasn't been falling. Dylan Brooks is pulling some shit lately.

You can't tell you? Pulling a whole lot. No, I'm going to take. I'm going to take Grayson Allen shooting. If he had a men's body and he had any other skills, he would still be a great shooter. Give you Grayson Allen shooting. Okay.

Not bad. Not bad. Not bad. Yeah, if a man can shoot like, like Grayson Island, he go. The prophecy's fulfilled. This is a lot. I built LeBron. Yeah.

This is a 26 year old, LeBron. I just realized we're cooked. We both be passing. You're super cooked. What are we doing right now? The team with no point guards. Hey, shout out, Yeager, Denim, be the best passer on this list. Yo, that's cooked, man.

Who would have thought? Ooh, man. What are we doing? This is the most unfortunate. I didn't realize it. You said it. This sucks. You really should have

PICCurry passing. Oh, man. I couldn't let you. No, it could pick Curry passing. I would have taken. You'd pick Curry. You should have been passing instead of finishing. It's not a,

yeah. Oh, fair. Yeah. I would have been in the same predicament, though, because I would have in the same thing. Oh, you're fucking away. You're fucking away.

Ah, man. So I got Devin Booker. I probably would win Jimmy passing what we were finishing too, I think, at this age. Yeah. But that's tough. Yeah, exactly.

You do get the grip thing. Yeah. Okay. So I got Devin Booker's option, Colin Gilles. I guess give me Devin Booker. Yeah, that's not hard. You should definitely pick Booker. Thank God you, you pick Booker.

I hate that. That's the only option, though, right now. No, he's a good answer. He's not a black hole, but it's like, yeah, I want some wizardry. For a big man in Claxton's body, that's a great passing. Yeah. We need representation. Give me Dylan Brooks passing.

He is not passing. I'm not going to share the Sharpe's body with no passing. You build small MPJ. You build bullshit. He built Cam Thomas. Cam Thomas with defense. Listen, that's not a bad place. You can do worse.

If Cam Thomas played defense, a lot more teams would like him. Correct. Correct. You're right. Damn, man. This is hilarious. Okay. And so you have like that strength is real strong, but you have the most weaknesses.

Like Curry's finishing is fine. Sharp's body is fine. It's a very specific player. You put a realistic player of his strengths and weaknesses. Who the hell is this guy? I got a men Thompson's body Grayson Allen shooting Demon's passing

Draymond Green's defense And Denny's finishing I got Claxton's body KD's shooting Passing Devin Booker The defense of Donovan Klingin And the finishing of Jimmy Butler Your player's amazing

But I think for Jimmy Butler's finishing You forgot you had a big Because the only part that throws me off If you had a big man's finishing It'd be filthy But he has clax his body So he's not like a traditional Like I'm just staying here

He's somewhat mobile So you like Jabari Smith or Kevin Durant A big four He could still grift at that size Yeah, because Claxton's like 6-9 or like six-nine with a big wing span, maybe 6-10. Yeah. You're basically Kevin Durant. P.K.D.

With no handle. He has some handle for a big, but like, it's not terrible. Not with the less handle. You're Jabari Smith. And then I have Shadden Sharp Body, MPJ shooting, Dillon Brooks passing, Tari Easton Defense, and Steph Curry finishing. Dylan Brooks passing. Ridiculous. So I got the best players here.

Yeah, you got the best player here. I got second best player here. Donovan exists. Donovan exists. My son is. My player is in the best player. league right now. Outside of Curry,

none of your players got no accolades. Next thing we're gonna do. That's your team. We're gonna play the five categories game. I have five categories of teams. I want you guys to name an NBA legend from each team without saying the same player as me.

You guys have white boards in front of you. I'm gonna say the team name. You're gonna write the name down if you're at home. Think about a player and try not to say the same name as me. So try to guess what player I'll say and pick another one from that team.

Whiteboard edition. Okay, let's do it. Yep. team one Los Angeles Lakers This is all time Yeah all time Name a legend from that team

Plenty of options here Oh a legend Yeah they're all legends Every category will be name a legend All right okay So try to think which one I'm gonna name Write a different one Got one

Three two One Jerry West Kobe Kobe I put Jerry West Donovan is out in round one Yeah buddy

Donovan you keep playing along just to see, Mo, can you make this run? Let's do it. I don't think I ever did this before. Maybe I did once. Yeah, you'd ever win. That's tough. Yeah, tough.

Let's do it. Team two. Category 2, Boston Celtics. Balltime, same thing, too. Yep, they're all the same thing. Name a legend. All right. Name a legend.

That's the only thing that matters. Any era, anything, I guess, yeah, any legend. Got it. Three, two, one. Bill Russell. Tatum. Hey, Donovan is matched

off a dog shit I got Bill Russell Yeah, just put that whiteboard down You should like I got over five At this point I am Well, we'll do separate trackers You're two for two You're over two

Let's see if we can clean sweep In the other direction Player number three Team number three Philadelphia 76ers Mamba legend This is tough All right

Which legends come to mind Let's do this I got one easy And they better be a legend. If you don't pick someone else the legend, you get axed. Axes of the zero. Axes of the knee. Three, two, one.

Dr. Jay. Dr. Jay around the board. Okay. We have Wilts Chamberlain. Donovan has his first correct answer. Yay! All but to say, oh, he picked that I lost. Fuck.

Mo's three and no. You're cooking. Two rounds left. Are you feeling good? I can't survive. Nice. Oklahoma City Thunder slash Seattle SuperSept. Monics, both histories.

Legends. Legends. NBA legends. Think what that means to you. Oh, man, I was about to reach for a second. Let me not be shameless. Who is legendary for this franchise? It must be legendary or it counts as a miss.

I don't know if I want to sit here and argue, so let me play a safe. For the Sergei Baco. Nah, not Sergei Baco. Nick Collinson. He's a legend. You got his Georgia retired. It's not a reach, but, you know, it is what it is. We'll go, yeah, I say you.

All right, let's go ahead and do it. Three, two, one. Gary Payton. J-dub. Second best player on the final scene. That is not a legend. You are out. That counts as a loss.

No, I'm not. No, fuck you. Fuck your rules. He is the stupidest answer. He was the second best player on a championship team. He is a legend for that franchise. Are you at your fucking mind?

You're out of your mind if you think he's, you think he's not a legend? Shut up. Anybody who, is trying to bring a legend for the killing Cavaliers? Yes, he is. Not really. She's out of your mind.

You're out of your mind. You're out of your mind. You're out of your mind. Kyrie is like a captain. Whatever. Yeah, you're out of your mind. Whatever. I'm in this game.

We're in it. You're not. That's J-Dub is a ridiculous answer. You're in it. I don't think it's crazy. J-Dub's a legend. Maybe when time retires, already a legend.

He's the second best player on the championship. They want their first championship. We reset that precedent. Second best players, automatically legends on a championship. No, but he's like a top 10 player in the history. Yes. Like, they haven't done anything.

They don't have 10. They don't have 10. It's top being a top 10 doesn't make you a legend. Is he top, what, five? No. Top five, OKC, Thunderball, time, maybe. Yeah, the conversation should be out. Yeah, Seattle makes that hard.

But, okay, nevertheless. He won a championship, weren't it? Round five, last one. Toronto Raptors. Not too many options here for people that qualify as legends for the team. Okay. Chris Bosch is not a legend. Hell not.

What? I don't know if Damar's a legend. Oh, no, I think he's a legend. No, I think he's a lot of here. You think DeMar is? I think, yes, 110%. They would tell you he's a legend. your legend radar is kind of off today

I ain't gonna lie you said Jada fuck out of my face dude but you're insane legitimately he might be wrong he's a legend for this franchise

not NBA he's in your three he's not a legend for this team not in the league I have to expand your horizon when it comes to your thought process for this team

he's a legend he won the final the second best without him in his performance he's not winning that championship yeah okay

come on now come on right you're wrong you're dead wrong I'm not three two I promise you are. Kyle Lauer.

De Marderosing. You're not big of legends. But it nevertheless. You're out of your mind. What are you doing? It doesn't matter. Let me read it's a legend. Three, two, one.

De Marderosa. Kauai Leonard. Come on. You're out of your mind. Whatever. I didn't say anything. Who cares? You guys got it.

It's Kaui Leonard. All right. Cool. God, man. We got to respect these players, right? Come on. Tomorrow, obviously I understand tomorrow. J.W.

is outlandish. but already be a legend. I think how you see the J-Dub this year is probably like too distasteful. No, it's not. He's in your three. You're not a legend after year three. For this franchise? Yes.

No, he's not. He might be. Like you were, like you made this. You're putting the legend bar way too low. It's okay. See, they don't have many legends. How many legends do they have?

Good handful of legends. They're not one of the most downtrod in legend teams. Is James Hart on a legend on the scene? No. Okay. How many legends do they have? Who are the top five players of all the time? Let's end this right now.

Westbrook, Kevin Durant, Shea, Gary Payton. for a while, but he's not quite good enough. I don't know. Sean came from the line. Jaydub's there. But Sean can't get it before J-dub. No. Just because of time.

I think time matters a lot for being a team legend. If J-Dub was traded tomorrow, he would not be remembered as a legend. He would be remembered simply because they did the most legendary thing. That doesn't make him an individual legend. Being remembered doesn't make you a legend. If you made actual history for this team, the textbook definition of a legend is making history. He made history with his team. I don't know the textbook definition of a legend, but nevertheless.

What is a legend to you? What is that mean? You're a, you know, you know what a legend is. one of the most defining, important best players of a generation for the team. Like, you are, like, one of their Mount Rushmore and you contention for Mount Rushmore. Jadab is not that. You don't have to be Mount Rushmore to be a legend. That's also false.

Of course not. But I'm saying, like, more often not, you're one of those players that defines it. Everything you said up until Mount Rushmore applies to Jadab. I, whatever. Never. We get caught up on this. It does. The comment's going to, they're going to decide for us.

Yeah. Next thing we are going to do, we are going to talk about the best jerseys in the NBA for 2026. I have every single division pulled up, every team in every division on here. We're going to pick the top five jerseys in these divisions. Let's do it. Let's go.

So across all the teams, which teams make the cut? Five jerseys for the Pacific Division first. Where are we going? Who's number one? Listen, honestly, the kings have, this is the one area where the kings can be in a top five.

They can be. They're not automatically disqualified. I don't think there's a clear one-of-way, like, winner. Personally, I love the City jersey for the Golden State Warriors this year, the brown and cream one. That to me is one of my top fives, but I can understand if people don't put it up there. I wouldn't put it up there. I think the... I think the Suns or the Warriors should be number one.

The Clippers Red is also very good. It is. The Clippers Red is elite. It didn't have might be a three-way tower, no. There's no like, no one set themselves apart for real. Low-key, listen. Golden State White is also iconic. That Black King's one is speaking to me.

It's nice. I like the Black King ones too. The number one, though? It low-key might be. It's up there. I think it's top three. Give me it a cream for number one to Golden State Warriors personally.

We're doing the number one? Yeah. Does that deserve to be ranked above the Golden State Warriors standard jersey? No, I think the blue Warriors jersey. I think the white is better than the blue. I think the white is the most iconic one. Either one.

I'm fine. I kind of think Warriors white and Warriors cream had to be on there. And then you guys want to do Black Kings and I think Red Clippers has to be on there. Maybe Suns Valley to round it out. Suns Valley definitely got to be there. It's crazy that the late.

Lakers aren't on this top of out. Yeah, well, man, fix your jersey. You can be on bullshit. Take away the highlighter and maybe we can be back in the conversation, Lakers. Yeah. So number one. So white warriors won. Okay, we'll go with the iconic jersey.

It is better than the name. We'll go with the iconic one. The cream has to be towards the bottom end just because it's just a city jersey. And I think it's cool. I think the colors are cool. Yeah. I'm basically just off of how good the jersey looks. I don't give a fuck about if it's iconic.

I want to go black kings too. Okay. Do you disagree with that? I can't hear it. on it. That's fine. Listen, we got to be nice to the Kings once.

I don't think you've ever been nice to the Kings on the show. They got to win something. I don't think I've ever said a good thing about the Sacramento Kings or the city of Sacramento. So I can say you're the second

best jersey in the Pacific Division. They got to get a franchise player in that Jersey, man. Please. I'm kind of thinking Clippers Red is up next. I was about to say the same. Clippers red is beautiful. Let's roll.

And then I think we round this out with Cream Warriors. Is the Valley? Is the Valley better than the Cream Warriors? No, I like Cream Warriors. No, I like Cream Warriors more. I like just my own word. Fertesetic.

But does the valley had to be number five? Can we entertain the new purple Lakers is really cool? I like it, but I think I like the valley better.

Maybe the other Clippers standard jerseys. The white one's pretty nice too. That one is, we can go there. I don't think I would. I would go with the white clippers

before I went with the purple Lakers. Okay. There's also the White Kings. The King City jersey is also nice, honestly, with the double pink,

the double purple with the beam team jersey? Listen, they've been on it. They have been losing in style. They don't win any games, but they do put that shit on when they lose. So we want to put two kings here for the first time? I can't believe we lost to the Kings, man.

But do we just go with the Valley? Sure. I mean, honestly, no. Like, I feel like we're putting the Valley up here for for history. Yeah, it's earned it. But it is a nice jersey though. But the Kings have been doing stuff. Fuck, it looks at the Kings.

We do need to recognize them. We talk so bad about them. We need to give them the problem. The King City or the King City? or the King's White? Kings white, I think. Kings white. Okay, the Kings get two placements on this list.

The first time they ever double up the Lakers like this, salute the Sacramento Kings. Nothing else good will be said for you for the rest of this calendar year, but you do have two good jerseys. The Sacramento Kings just made history. Not by playing basketball, but just putting that shit on me. Good for them. Now, next division, no sons and no Lakers.

That's been surprising. I wonder if people agree with that. They probably don't. Next up, oh, what is this? Southeast Division. Where are we going first? All right. Instantly has to be on here.

One of the new magic jerseys. And Miami Vice, the black one. They had that this year again. To me, that's one. Hmm. The new white magic is... That's up there too. It speaks to me.

I would have that one. All I know is the Wizards are not touching this list at all. Their gold is not that bad. You're goddamn right. They're not touching this list. There's nowhere close to touch this list and neither are the other ones. Some down to go, white magic at one. And then Miami Vice at two.

I think Miami Vice is better than white magic just because the font of the magic one I don't love I like white magic number one Okay why magic number one it is yeah I don't hate that I just wish the font was a little bit different Yeah I can understand that Is Miami Vice clearly number two?

Yes clearly for sure You know what I like a lot The the red Miami heat jersey In the last like six years They changed the cut of it They changed the collar a little bit It's like a thick fabric It looks a little bit different from every jersey

The red heat jersey looks amazing on court It does I do I do like that We try and put that in the top three I'm open to do it I think the Hornets, I think the Hornets, teal, light blue, whatever,

that one is very nice to me. I can understand that. I like the red a little more, but I think both could be on there. The Hawks red is so bright. It's kind of overwhelming. I focus with the Hawks red, and the-

The Hawks are kind of boring. The Black and Yellow was fire. It looks good. I feel like these jerseys have always looked better on paper than they have on court. I agree. It's super bright on court.

Yeah. The idea of these jerseys, have been really, really nice, but I don't think that they've been executed well. The blue Magic jersey also deserves to be mentioned. There are other base jersey. Wow, man. So the last three spots.

Heat red, I think we can put on that. Should go heat red, Hornets, blue, and then Orlando Blue. Orlando Blue, are we sure? I think those are clearly the last three. Okay, top four are on there for sure. It was tough. The heat other two base jerseys are also nice, but we can't do this many heat jerseys.

They're not special enough. to do that. I think in Orlando Magic's, the Warner Magic is special enough to have a double jersey. No Hawks, though? Personally, I would vote for the Hawks, Black and Yellow. Hawks Black and Yellow versus Orlando Blue. The thing is, you've never seen Nikolajanel Walker run down the court

with this Black and Yellow like I have. You never seen it. I think I might have seen it a time or two. And would have moved you. Ah, that's a tough one. They're very similar. Any love for Peach Tree? No. I'm not a

piece. I'm not like that font. The font is so outdated now. It looks like a 2017 Under Armour High School football jersey. Yeah, it's terrible. It's terrible, but it's just not. It doesn't belong to this at all. The one that says Atlanta with the cursive is much better. Yeah.

I think we go Orlando Blue. I can't be mad at it. We reward a good rebrand. We have a nice colorful lineup here for this division. I'm not mad at this doll. Yeah. Okay. Damn, wizards.

They're so ass. It just exists. They need to rebrand so bad. If they don't rebrand this summer after drafting AJ DeBonsa or whatever it's going to be, it's because they're going to start. a new air off. They're going to start a new air off disgustingly. Whoever was their graphic designer years ago when

like put this on paper for them and told him to roll out with this. They need to find him. Put him under investigation. Lock him up because he tanked your jersey. It was fine back then but he has job security. They're not getting off of that design. Yeah. Next up, the Central Division. Who gets the number one spots?

We got some. Cream City number one. There's some heavy hitters on here. Cream City's hardest. I love the Cavs White Jersey a lot. The cats have two winners to me. And the Cavs, Navy Blue Throwback has to be up here. Yes. I think, okay, the Navy Blue Throwback, yes.

I don't think the White needs to be up here. Yeah, it doesn't need to be. I love the white, but I know everybody doesn't agree. I think the gold looks beautiful in the white jersey. Dude, look at the, look at Detroit's Throwback Jersey. That has to be up there too. That, that T. That's your T.O.1.

Okay. That's hard as a. That's your city jersey this year. It's like a reference to throwback. That's so hard. Because I don't think they ever wore a great one like that. Bulls, black pinstripe is up here. We have to put the bliss.

I've always liked the Bulls red more personally. I think it. And I also love the Bulls white. I really love white jerseys as you can tell. I'm okay with any of those Bulls jerseys. Whatever Bulls' reputation you all want to decide on. I like them all. I like red personally.

Red? Yeah. All right, fine. You can do black. It don't matter to me, right? Any one of them Bulls jersey, it's classic. Okay. Cavs number one.

Yes. Cavs throwback number one. Should we do the black? I think more people would agree the black is better than the red. The black pinstripes? For the Bulls? Yeah. Sure.

It's cool. We'll do black pinstripes number two. It's slightly more interesting just with the pinstripes. I think Bulls White deserves a consideration for the rest of this list. Does Cream City enter the conversation yet? I don't think so. No. Not at all?

It doesn't actually. It's not top five. It's either one or it's 20. One or 20? You decide what side you're on. And we already decided it's not one. Also, on court, I really like the Pacer City jersey this year. The white one?

Yeah. I would rather go Pacers yellow for you're going to go Pacers. I don't think the Pacers can touch this list, unfortunately. Me neither. No, I actually think either the Pacer's City or the Pacers' Yellow should be in the top five. Pacers Yellow could maybe get the back half. Dude, so we want to go to Detroit City Jersey

with those old school colors? I want to go to Detroit right now. He got it. Okay, we can go to Detroit number three. Give that to you. Bucks, if anything for the Bucks is getting here, it's the black. It's nice.

It's not an awful jersey. I'm not moving. I'm not moved by right now. The blue trims with the black and the cream really does move me. I'm not moved by it right now. Bulls white, potentially. Bulls white or Pace is yellow.

Do you guys don't fuck with the black Cavaliers jersey? Absolutely not. I hate that big-ass logo. Damn, man. I remember we told Darius Garland that and he was befuddled because he loves that jersey and I can't. I hate that big logo. Wow, man, it's fired.

And I hate numbers that are offset like that on the side. But this is the perfect, this is the best way to do it if you're going to offset something. That is a practice jersey with that big ass logo. I think it is horrible. So Bulls-white, Paces Yellow? I can't argue against the Bulls-White. Again, that's a classic. Okay, last spot.

Pacers yellow or Buck's Black. I can't fuck with it. the Pacers. Pace's yellow. You go three bulls? We can't do it. I had to go three bulls personally. I think we could glaze the bulls a little bit

when it comes to jerseys. We don't have to. We don't have to. Three bulls is crazy. You can sell me on a different jersey. Give me a soliloquy. Tell me why the Pacea yellow is better than the Red Bulls.

It's just a lot of glaze. I don't know if I'm comfortable with that level of glaze right now. But this is some of the best branding in the history of fucking sports. So it's completely necessary. It's all they got. If you're going to give them something,

it has to be this jersey. Go ahead. And it's not like it's a terrible, like, idea either. Go ahead and move off the screen. It pains you to say good things about the Bulls. Go ahead. The Bulls get three jerseys on here. I think the Bucks Black could be debated number five.

Let me see the Patriot is yellow. Let me know where it's a new division. Dream City is not forgotten by me. It's like, I know he lied. Ah, get fucked. Idiot. Next up. Ooh, the Atlantic Division.

Heavy hitters here. My first thoughts. Kith, New York, Nick's Jersey. Kreme. gotta be one. I love that jersey so much. Now the Sixers throwback jersey could be one as well.

That's heavy hitter. So is the Brooklyn Nett City jersey bringing back to Koogee. We got three heavy hitters here. Three heavy hitters. Put the Sixers at one. Okay. Just for the history. They finally brought it back after you. It wanted it for so long. And it looks good. Nick's number two.

I think Nick City jersey with the off white is gorgeous. Let's do it. And this is a jersey I could actually wear. The colors looks so good. Cream continues to prevail. He's like, you know we're going to put on for cream. Under any circumstance, don't be surprised. Brooklyn Nets,

we're putting that at three. Koogee? Yes. Okay, well, slow down, though. No, I think that that is a solid top three, and that is a tier of its own, and then everybody goes into it. I don't know if I like it because, like, the Nets are just, no one would be really wearing this jersey.

Because you're not outside like that. It's okay. Like, I don't think the Nets player. are cool with this jersey on or maybe just because they are not a good basketball team. Yeah, it's just, it's fucking me up right now. Now, tier two. I really like the Raptors white.

The little arrow pointing up with the white text inside the white blank worked for me. It's never been, you know what? Raptors red also looks good. We can put that on the short list. I like the white more than the red. Okay. Do we got to put in Boston Celtics traditional jersey?

Hell not. Boston's stuff is green is nice. It's so traditional. it screams basketball. I almost would have went to Boston Celtics white, but Green's okay too. The green screams, I am basketball. Like, I feel like we have to include that.

Sure, legacy purposes, why not? This is not a bad jersey. Yeah, it's iconic. It's not bad at all. Throw it on that. It's never changed. It never will change. Boston Celtics Green deserves to be the first traditional

after the elite new ones. Loki. Are we going with the Philly Red over the Toronto White? Philly Red is nice with the cursive text. Yeah, Philly Red over Toronto White and Toronto Red. I think that's five for me. I can a lot. Red jerseys are nice

with a nice, with a nice, bold, white text. I'm with it. Let's go Philly Red number five. You guys don't like the Philly Navy blue, the cursive on it? Philly, not really.

Listen, Philly does have the best, they have the best jerseys in this division. Yeah, definitely. They have the only team on here too. This is the most even distribution we've seen so far.

Every team got touched. Yeah, okay. We're touching teams today. There's nothing for the rappers. Never mind. Rappers not getting touched. As always, you were the underdogs. Tell us how much we hate you guys.

They always say that, man. Let me hear how much I hate the Raptors in the comments section. 1 through 10. Gage my Raptors hate. Today's honestly probably the most we've ever talked about in one episode. I guess so? Trade candidates, yeah. Okay, this is honestly the strongest division yet.

Next up, what does the division call again? Southwest? Southwest. Yeah, the Southwest Division, where are we going? San Antonio Spurs got to be towards number one. The Fiesta? I don't know if they're number one. Yeah.

Fiesta's nice. You know what? I don't love the H-Town jersey on paper. It always looks good on court. I don't know if it's top five, but I just want to say that. Memphis's throwback Vancouver jerseys too. Pretty tough. I think the Spurses Biesta is one.

Spurses Vesta is easily one. And then Memphis throwback is two. Yep. Y'all like that jersey a lot. I folk with it heavy. I think it's cool for nostalgia. I don't think it's that nice of a jersey. Nice.

It's cool. Okay. Okay. I'm out voted. Is that number two? Yep. Like, I think the Memphis white jersey next to it is better. That city jersey is pretty nice.

Nah. I don't like that one. Okay. I'm out voted out. Y'all like the black jersey. Hey, this division kind of sucks. It does kind of suck. There's a big drop off now.

We're picking some thing. We're not picking the MAV. I'm going to go ahead and delete the Mavs base jersey. I don't want to look at these anymore. The Mavs Navy Blue can stay on the screen. Their green might have a fighting chance. The Pelicans default jerseys deleted from the screen. The Spurs black and white.

The Spurs gray deleted from the screen. That's fair. Spurs green that bad. Okay, so where is H-Town going for the U.S. Is H-Ton-Honts? Is H-T not to make it? I think it might. White Rockets.

I think the White Rockets. I think the White Rockers jersey in general look good. Classic clean. Those white jerseys are better than the Raptors white jerseys for sure. Yeah, the H-Town one is not. You don't fuck with it? It's okay, but it's not like amazing. But I think the White Rockets is a little bit better just because it's simpler.

Do we put the New Orleans voodoo jersey on there? I fuck with it heavy. That's one of my favorite jerseys. I've never been a massive fan, but if y'all love it. Yeah, I think we can do it just because it's not a lot of great options here. Yeah. Every jersey we've done so far is black. All we have is the different jerseys because the bases in this is,

division all suck. Yeah. Houston Rockets Red is nice too. He's in Rockets Red is pretty nice. Do you like the red over the white? I don't love my. They need a rebrand. I don't love either of them.

They have one and it might be, I think it comes along with the H-Town uniform, but they have one where they have like the dunking astronaut. Yeah. I would love if that's the new rebrand. I'm kind of leaning. I know what I think we're underestimating?

Grizzly's Baby Blue. Grizzly Baby Blue. The Grizzlies usually have a lot of nice details along the size and the collars and stuff. How do we feel about Dallas Green now? I like it personally. I fucking hate Dallas Green. Are we put the, we're considering that?

I think you'd be a part of the conversation for sure. I don't want to consider Dallas at all personally. That green is nice. Just out of principle? Kind of. I personally, I kind of want to just finish it out with Grizzlies baby blue and Grizzly City. I like the Dallas Green a lot.

I mentioned it earlier. That fine is garbage. Go Grizzly's Baby Blue. Okay. And then We could do a Spurs black or Spurs white It's just classic and clean Are those

Miles better than any of the Rockets Are the Rockets getting any Representation today? I think the Rockets jerseys are better Than what's up for the Spurs I think we have a lot of mediocre options Yeah Pick whatever we like the best

Because these all are not good Go Spurs Just pick a Rockets jersey Spurs Black Spurs Black That's where you want to go Tiebreaker Yeah

Okay whatever Well four black jerseys And the Grizzlies We're kind of shameless Yeah One dimensional as division. Not a strong division at all. It's also not a garbage division.

It's just a lot of mediocre jerseys. Yeah. Which I guess, I mean, most churches are not garbage. So this probably is a garbage division overall. Last one. The Northeast Division. Utah. Yeah, Utah white is...

All I was going to do, Utah purple. They're both good. They both have good contrast. They're both going to be part of this list. And put them one and two. Oh, not one and two, though. Hold on. Portland should be in here.

We have the Prince Jersey. And we have the Timberwolves. jersey. Two Timberwold's jersey. Those are both iconic and beautiful still. They hold up. I think Timberwolves got to be two

and one got to be Purple Utah. I'm still not a massive Prince Jersey fan. Well, to me the Black Timberwolves is easily won. Yeah. Okay.

I'm down with that. That's not a competition. That works so well for a modern blank with this design. Now, can Utah solidify a spot in number two? For Prince.

I like Prince a lot. You don't like Prince? Nah, it's not my vibe. I think the Purple Utah one is better. Okay, Purple Utah. Something good is happening to the state for the first time. There we go.

We're immediately eliminating both Denver Nuggets-based jerseys. Deverecane. That fuck-ass font and the collar, I hate it. No, the white's not terrible. It's terrible. It's atrocious. The white jerseys in this division are not amazing. Yet, honestly, every other Trimbleau jersey eliminated.

I really like the black Portland jersey. It's very classic. It's very nice. It looks nice now. They change the collar up a little bit. It's like a solid line in black. It looks really good. It's cool.

So I would like if we got Portland Black on here. I'm with you. Portland Black here number three. You talk a double up. I get the white jersey. Yes. Let's do it. Let's not make it.

Okay. Utah. This is legit. And then we can go print that five because I, the Thunder. Like, eh, whatever jersey. Thunder jersees or whatever on paper.

They look pretty good on court with the orange text and like the way they have the numbers and the words like the the strokes around the fonts. That's a shade war. It looks really good on. The orange. Jersey stands no chance, but the blue and the white look pretty good on court. Would you...

Nah, I can't go that way. Okay, okay. You're going Prince. Prince over O'KC? Purple rainy, I'm going with Prince. Prince gets the number five, and there we are. There's our top five. Which, honestly, I don't know if there's much debate.

You can debate the order. But these are pretty clearly the top five to me. Yeah. No jersey I hate the red trailblazers. Oh, I just realize the things on the side. It's his giant logos. It's the big logo. It's the big logo.

set numbers. Doesn't work for me. No text on the front. I'm not with it. But that OKC jersey. No text on the front. I hate no text on the front. That's what it is.

Because when you have no text on the front and then you have the sponsorship, it really does look like a practice jersey. It looks like a sleeve jersey from that era. That's what they were doing. Looks at those Christmas Day ones. They're the big ass logo with the sleeves. Horrible.

I can see that. PTSD. Adidas tried to get back into the conversation on Christmas. And they posted like a picture of all of their Christmas. forms and somebody quote tweeted them and it was like well if you didn't give us these you know god-off a sleeve jersey we probably would still be rocking with the deedist right now that's great they really did kill the era with the sleep jerseys like it's fully their fault they sold yeah man now next thing we are going to do we are going to guess the NBA player by their biggest haters mo has prepared

a list of the internet's most infamous player hating we're going to see that hater and decide which player they hate on yes exactly it has nothing to do with the player and necessarily their games necessarily, but narratives, beefs. Infamous players that are on their dick all the time. Let's talk about it. So who's the first player up? Two number one haters, 82 games and the Grizzlies. They hate to see them coming.

And a lot of times this hate is different because most of the times people hate from the outside. These hate it from the inside. Yes. This is systemic hates. This is, I see you every day. I see your habits. I hate him. John Morantz.

Yes, it is. The most games that John Moran's ever played in his career. Can you guess? 61. 3. Ooh, 67, and that was his rookie year. Ah.

That's so crazy. What is it since then? 63, 57, 61. Like nine? It was 50 last year. Nine and 50. You should have rub Vince Williams. I could have bet that.

He's a part of the grisies, though. I'm sure it's coaching staff as well. To catch all. I can't believe we're here. I can't believe we're here. Marant. Who would have thought, man? The fans are honestly done with him too.

Sad. And that's the craziest part. Yeah, man. Sad. Mark Heath Morris and Kendrick Perkins. Ooh, who does Markief Morris hate on? He's on stream a lot. Mm-hmm.

Who does he hate on? Oh, wait. Kendrick Perkins. Markief Morris got his neck broken by Nicola Yokic. I don't know. And Kendrick Perkins facilitated Joel and Bid MVP victory over Nicole Yokinz. Why? With how?

That's not for me to say. With race relations. I can throw it alive, I cannot dunk it. I don't know if Kendra Perkins hates Nicole Yokch overall, but he did play a big part in robbing him of an accolade whether right or wrong, is this Nicole Yokic. This is Nicole Yolkich, Kendra Perkins. You will pay for what you did to Nicole Yolk's resume.

It really is crazy how much he swung the vote. He really did. And like, Joel and B deserved it is not a bad MVP, but Kendra Perkins did make it happen. Now, Mark Keith Morris, that is a deserved hatred. You did fuck up his career. If I'm Mark Keith Morris, I'm doing more than hating for the rest of my life.

I'm actively plotting on your downfall. One day you will pay the price. I don't know when, but eventually retribution will come. I don't know, man. He got his brothers with them all the time. If I'm Markie, I got brothers too. I don't know. I got brothers too.

He's trying to go to war. We can line up like a Trojan warfare and rush the field together. You don't want that. Maybe not. Maybe not. Maybe I don't want that. But I also don't want to sit down.

I'm a neck broken with no payback. He said I got brothers too. What's you trying to do? I'm crying, man. Next up, we got Devin Booker, Dennis Schroeder, and Nico Harrison. I love this. A three-way hatred fest. They are gang-bang in the hates.

All for different reasons. All for different reasons. It's coming from every which direction for different reasons. Just going down the line. Down the line. Everyone's getting a turn. You're soft and I'm better than you. You, you're broke.

You changed my life in the worst way. This is Luca Donchie. I'm your dad. You're a bitch. You're stupid. That's what Luca said. You guys are correct. We're on the ringer.

This is Luca Dodgers, man. The report that he called Dennis Schrooter a bitch multiple times in multiple continents is hilarious. I completely forgot about that, man. In international play and then the NBA. That's hilarious. This is one of those moments where it's like, I have brothers too. You get it off one thing. time.

Okay. The heated battle of international basketball, I'll take it. We're competitors. You call me a bitch in the NBA when people are a court side?

Kendall Jenner's court side and you call me a bitch? You won't pay. Now I got to go and fight you in the locker room. DeAndrean can't stop me. I understand Dennis. I understand him all too well.

How dare you? How dare you? Luke can deserve it. I'm not going to lie. Next to go our Twitter and Anthony Edwards. Nice. You know this one?

No. Once again, two different forms of hates. Twitter hates this man because they think he's ruining the game. They hate to see him succeed. They think he's bad for the game and his swag is too different. He's winning too much. Fuck him. Anthony Edwards sees all that and he's like, I agree and I'm better than him.

This is Shay killed us Alexander. You're correct. She's like, they're right. All the glaze he's getting, that should be for me. Give me, Chad home green. Give me J. Dub. I could do that. He clicked.

He probably clicked. Maybe he's right. I don't know. This is going to be one of the greatest. He definitely is right. Yeah. I know. And this is the most respectable hating.

Really? And it's just like, I promise you. I promise you I'm as good as him. And I can't doubt it. Every single season, he adds them to his game. Now we has a post game. It's getting close. At the very least, I have to respect it.

Not close yet. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, she's still better, but the very least I have to respect it. Yeah. I agree. Next up, we got Stephen A. Smith and Celtics fans. Celtics fans throws me off.

because like Celtics fans makes you think it's the Lakers but I don't think Steven Nesbeth makes you think might be LeBron South Texas fans have no reason to hate LeBron these days

so this really narrows it down to one player I think I actually don't think this is a player Oh no it is I think You're cooking This is a player

With a lot on his mind all the time A lot of thoughts He's getting a lot of But a lot of subjects But a lot of people Okay This is kind of

I'm sorry. Oh, man. Oh, man. Oh, man. Sometimes I wish, like, we didn't have no viewers so I could put whatever I want on there. We would have the best time of our lives, right? I said, damn, I wish I didn't blow up. I think we both was better.

I could say anything. Yep, Stephen has been told the grudge. Celtic fans will never forgive him. Again, understood hating. I thought he was going to put Knicks fans. Nick's Terry? Nixenhan hate Stephen A. Smith. Oh, yeah.

But he's one of them. So Stephen Nish Smith doesn't hate Nix fans. No, but that's why. Because they see Stephen A. Smith, and they're like, oh, you're a fake Nix fan. So they think he's like a Nix fan, like race traitor. What about Nix Fandum? Okay. Next so we got Scott Fisher, Rondo, and Tailu.

These are so good. At the top. And see, once you start, into categories where you have three haters, three plus haters. I know that you are in all time. Did you mean Scott Foster? Hateable. Hateable.

Yeah, I meant Scott Foster. Who is Scott Fisher? Who is this guy? I don't know who Scott Fisher. I was like, bro, Scott. Scott Fisher. Who is this guy? Yeah, meant to be Scott Foster.

So say to again. That's hilarious. We got Scott Foster Rondo entitled. Scott Fisher. I'm like, is that like a bowler or something? What is he wearing? He looks like. It looks like a soccer player.

Like an old soccer player. Like an old as fuck, though, in a jersey. Oh, no, I used to play. Like ping pong or bowling? Like, a ping pong or bowling? Sunday league. Darts? An American mountaineer. Whoa.

Mountaineer? Yeah, I had no. Guys would be like skiing. Yeah. This is him. Cool. Good for Scott Fisher. All right.

Anyways, we have. Listen, I'm sure if he knew this guy, he'd hate him to. Yep. We have a lifelong. Okay. No, this is the basketball player in the reason. Yeah. Scott Foster right now.

We have a lifelong op. Referee Scott Foster. That's hilarious. Decades of warfare. Mental. We have a physical altercation in Rajan Rondo. Bista face.

That's pretty rare for hatred list. That's not even hatred. That's just, again, certified op. Yeah. And Tai Liu, we have a new addition. A spiritual hater. I hate you for who you are as a person. Nothing to do with the basketball court.

I think you're annoying. This is Chris Paul. Another layup. You got it. Chris Paul, yo, he has a long list. I could have kept on going. He has a long list of haters. Facts.

You could have put so many. You could put James Hardin. You could have put me. You could put so many players. Kanye. Oh, Kanye, shut up, Oh, fuck, fuck, that. Oh, my God.

Oh, my God. He was heated. Could I have put that? I don't know if he was here. That's the funny part. It was like, it was an observation. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, I was just like, Kanye.

Get a load of this, y'all. Isn't that crazy? Oh, my God. It was like so, just like, there was no emotion attached. Yeah. It was just, he fucked my wife. Wow He's cool with it

Oh my God I completely forgot about that shit Oh man All right next up we got Dylan Brooks Skip Baylis and old people Old people Interesting

And as an old You gotta be like 60 Maybe 50 in a month I can be younger than that Can you? Yeah you had just be sentient in 1991 If you're around in 1991 You hate LeBron James forever

Skip Bayliss has one man that he his whole life has been dedicated to hating this one man his career i don't know if he's about anything in his life outside of that like it might have been 24-7 the last 32 years just thinking about him yeah and that's why this is lebron james lebron james lebron james we got dillen brooks there because he's getting under his skin successfully yep i never seen an NBA perouse out of jok even though it gets under his skin to this degree honestly he's putting jjiburay to shame i do want there's like small moments of like NBA legends like losing it cool like you've seen michael jordan get into a

You've seen Kobe Bryant get into a fight. I want LeBron to try and choke out Dillenbrook. Now, not Dillenbrook. That means Dillenbrook's won. I'm sorry. He already, he already won. He really did. The high five at the,

you know who LeBron has a chokeout. Who? Where do you go bare? No. That would be the most acceptable form. Nah. He's not going to do it. Okay.

He's not going to do it. But I did, I need like pure hate, two-hand strangulation. What happened? What would happen for Braun Jane Smack Stuff Curry during a game? Oh, you got to suspend him, but you can't suspend him for too long, though.

Do you think people would let that ruin the Bronze Legacy? I think they might. Nah. I think that might. Like, people love Seth Curry, obviously. They're at this advanced age. They're these, like, long-term, long-term rivals turn best friends during the Olympic run.

I think people would view it as nasty if you smack Steph Curry. Potentially, but because he's like, he's obviously, like, bigger than him. Yeah, like, you're above that. And you're punching down physically. Yeah. So it's like you don't have, you don't have to do it.

On the other hand, LeBron fans would be like, finally. We can put this to bed. We handle this like men. You know who the better players. Don't lie. If he smacked Steph Curry, you'd be like, ah, there you. No, I wouldn't. That's my goat.

I wouldn't, man. Don't lie to me. Next to got Nick's fans. True shooting percentage and Patrick Beverly. Who was in jail right now? True shooting percentage. Who is in jail right now? Who is actively a horrible guy, by the way.

In case you forgot. Fuck him. Nick's fans. True shooting percentage. Nick's fans. Who Knicks fans hate? I see true shooting percentage. I think Palo Bankero.

I know. Off rip. Off rip. The voice of anti-efficiency. But it can't be him. I don't think Pat Bev hates him. You know who it is. I can't remember who Pat Bev hates.

I've kind of like tuned Pat Bev out after I realize a criminal. Think about the voice. first one. Now mind you, the Knicks have been bad for a long time. And the first time that the Knicks got good, who was the man who tried to shoot them down? I remember now. I remember. And you know what? Pabette was right. Everything he said was law. It all came to fruition. This is Ray Young. Dude, I'm so happy he's locked up. He would be doing the most heinous things on the internet right now, but keep him there, please. No victory last for him. Keep this criminal away. He misses shot. Thank God. Do you see acting in Joe right now? I think I'm

like I'm like he's not a jail but I'm sure he's off the internet right he's flying charges though yeah he's bar still drops seems like he did that shit so he's high now on a beach in Bali where they all go fighting a tradition next we got Twitter again in Draymond Green who's German who's Twitter again Dron Green hates a lot of people he's a volume hitter so much volume hater he begin but at the top of his list like we've seen him at the top of the list of his hate, whenever the hate war is over and it turns physical, who has it been?

He's attacked his greatest office. It's been subonious. It's been Nirk. It's been Jordan Poole. Lord, this list is long. That's what I'm saying. You know what's funny?

Every day you just said, Twitter hates them all. This is crazy. But obviously, the top one, he couldn't wait to get a hold, to get a strangle hold on Rudy Gaubert. It has to be a good boy.

You should have went Jordan Poole, honestly. Jordan Poole probably is the greatest hater. But I think, I think Twitter hates Rudy Gobert more than Jordan. Day 1 million percent, dude. Twitter hates Rudy Gobert more than Satan.

It's not Rudy Gobert. Really? Nope. You're not. You're not. You're right. So this can easily be a bonus. No, not to.

Katie. KD. Yes. Twitter fucking hates Katie the most. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, man. Why is this list so long?

I didn't even think about Katie. I could have put so many guys on this list. Because I did those four. And then it's still he had physical altercation with like four more people. He's just a disqualification. disrespectful. He's a bad human fan. And now he's finally secret every other day. Yeah, man.

You should have put Drummond green on here. This is his own greatest hater. His own biggest op. Great, man. Next, we got Donovan, Draymond and Shaq. Now, this one, better be the big guy with the bone legs

that nobody respects. The big guy who can't make a layup, hit a gem shot, hit a free throw. Throw a dime. this has to be Rudy Gaubert. I fear it's Reader, man. Donovan hates him because he has evil inside of his heart. Shack hates him because he's big and soft

and Draymond hates him because he stole D.P.O.S. I've seen one of the latest, like, Shaq hate watches for Rudy O'Bare. And he was like, I think it was Lassar. He was like, yeah, I just don't like him because he makes $250 million. And he's like, I should be $250 million. Yeah, exactly. I said, I would destroy him. That's the only reason why.

Give me his money. We want the one thing about Shaq. Loves his money. loves it wants everybody's money unwarranted hate man Donovan why are you on this list I don't know man I feel like this is a misrepresentation

man this is your whole persona of who I am as a person yeah man this is your whole persona man it's not me I didn't do this walking it back he's like what about become what would I halt time next we got Isaiah Thomas that's the wrong Isaiah Thomas the old one

The goat interviews of all time. Next we got Isaiah Thomas, Shannon Sharp, and Scotty Barnes. Say that one more time. Isaiah Thomas, Shannon Sharp. Oh, I said Scotty Barnes. The hell. Scottie Pibbin. Okay.

So, wide array. White array. The Shannon Sharp part confuses me. I think I understand it. Scottie Pippin. I'm thinking he's hitting from the inside. I'm thinking there's a little bit of internal jealousy. Isaiah Thomas, that's a long time rival.

I get it. You should hate him. We've been down that road. We understand hate harder, honestly. Yep. Is Shannon Sharp here because he is a LeBron James fan, so he has to hate the guy that's on here? Is this Michael Jordan? Potentially, and you're correct, it is.

He hasn't said too many necessarily bad things about MJ himself, but you know what happens when you glazed. You got to just piss on something. You got to pick a side. Exactly. And he does that all the time. You got to tear down to build up your guy. It's like a ride a passage.

It's like the old Xbox or PlayStation, LeBron, Jordan, like every generation has theirs. exactly exactly what's a new one what's the new genzy one I don't know I'm typed out I don't know YouTube shorts versus TikTok I don't know man brain rot next we got Wemby and a weight scale nice tough now I saw this and I thought very demeaning guy got lose weight I thought we had a guy struggling no with some food addiction whatever goes the other way around completely this is a guy needs a food this is a guy who needs the pound the protein shakes this guy who needs to eat olive oil

is ice cream. All the foil is. This is the guy who's terrified of Big Brother Wembe. This is Chad Holmgren. The most big back thing I've ever seen in my life is see someone eat French bread with ice cream in it. That sounds good as fuck. Oh my God.

You're just like my dad. Terrible. I'm not seeing the craziest like Big Back snacks on TikTok. Really? People are like grilling honey buns. Oh my God. Grilling honey buns. Yo.

What? That's crazy. The funny thing is grilling honey buns. grilling a headbutt doesn't make them any more on healthy. Like the effort to eat the honey bun, you're doing way too much. That actually sounds fire. Bro, you lit charcoal to try and eat this honey bunnought. I've microwave the honeybone before.

Yeah, having the warm is fine. That's fine. Wanting grill marks is hilarious. Yeah, that's insane. That's insane. Next one up. And last one, we got James Hardin and Gilbert Arenas. Who does Gilbert Arenas hate?

His type of hating is very specific. Leadership. Leadership. Europeans I think this is the idea of hating being a locker room leader legalized gambling gun control

now you gotta think about James Hardin too in this conversation The mafia. Consider him. I think James Iron probably hates the mafia. Well, I don't know if Gilbert hates them though. Hates him now, they got him caught up.

That's fair. The blue spot up. Now he's got to pretend he was never would him. Can you guys clutch this out? Okay, so James, is this Janus? This is Janus. Why does it get him read

to say Janus? Dude, like three years ago, after, mind you, mind you, he won two MVPs, also won a championship. Gilbert Arenas went on his podcast and said, you know, I don't think Janus really understands the game of basketball. He plays 32, 34 minutes a night. LeBron James plays 37 minutes a night. Nonsense cool as hell. I forgot. Just quintessential, all he does is running dunk.

Yes, exactly. You know, James Harden said the same thing. So that should be my MVP, actually. You guys only miss one. and that's great. And you missed one your fault? Yeah, it was the

It was the Rudy Gabbard one Yeah. Oh, you thought it was Riga Bear. Yeah, good on a second guess though. Yeah.

Next thing we are going to do today I'm going to show you an NBA star We had to pick their best and worst teammate of all time. Worst. Now, this isn't going to be like actually the worst player

to be on their roster because obviously there's like a 15th man that is terrible. We don't got to punch the little guys. But the worst teammate in terms of like relevant team team. is that didn't work.

Destructive, no chemistry, failed experiments, whatever it means. First off, Steph, Curry, who are the best and worst teammates he's ever had? Immediately,

when it comes to the worst has to be James Wiseman, man. Sold off like the entire decade of the 2020s with that pick a one. He's not a bad Curry teammate. He just wasn't that good.

No, but I'm thinking like, the delo thing never worked. You know, honestly, the best and worse could be Dramon Green. He could be both. You sold off so many things,

man. You lost this to 26. team championship. You want me plenty gains being the best team if I could ever imagine on the other side. You drove KD out of here. You forced the Warriors to go ahead and trade away Jordan Poole. Dremont give it and Dremont take it the way. I like that. He's a rare talent. He's both.

Cipa coin, depending on what side of the bed he wakes up on, he can be best or worse that day. And that is the duality of man. Traymond. Yeah. A man with nuance. He contains multitudes. He has a complicated legacy. That's okay. Joel NB, the best and worst teammates.

Best teammate, it's either Maxie or Jimmy Butler. I think I would. I think we go Maxie for time play. There's no falling out, hasn't left. He came in as the little brother, going to be the next generation, has risen into being the star alpha. He checks every single box, every step of the way.

Yeah, he has the longevity. If it wasn't for Maxi's attention, I would have been like Jimmy Boulder because they worked so well together. This is the first that he's made in this career. short-lived. Second round again, but goddamn, man. Now worst.

Which failed guard do we want to go with? It's Ben Simmons. It's Ben Simmons. When you think about how much was riding on Ben Simmons' shoulders that directly affected Joelle and B's legacy, it's Ben Simmons. Joelle and B was out there playing hurt,

and he said, listen, it's us too against the world. Can you go carry me today? And Ben Simmons said, absolutely not. Yeah, man. He saw 5-11 rim protector. Trang Young put fear in his heart. He said, bro, I clock out at 5.

The game starts at 6. I don't know what you want for me. Yeah. You're lucky. I'm here. I can't tell you anything. Fashion week starts tomorrow. I don't know what I'm doing here.

It's like you left because Ben Simmons was so bad and that experiment went off the roads as much as it did. Now we had to cycle through so many guards. We had to go through a James Harden era. We had to go through a Tyrese maxi drafting, then rise up. Now I'm even here. I've lived three lives. No, Ben Simmons,

Ben Simmons getting hurt and falling apart, directly led a chain event that finalized with Paul George getting $43 million a year as a wash player. Destruction. He's the worst. Tragic. Kevin Durant's. Best.

Now, this is like to know, worst you might think of one name immediately. He's had quite a few bad teammates that didn't work out. Low key. Bradley Beale could be the worst. Bradley Bill could be the worst in terms of not getting anything out of it. Draymond drove him out of a dynasty. That could be the worst.

But he also won. Kyrie Irving, they should have won a championship, but then he blew up that Nets team when we thought had the high expectations. It could be a lot. True. I, Andrew Robeson just refused to shoot.

Oh, you always the shot with Andre Robeson. What did he do to you, man? One of these is not like the other. And that one is like the most irrelevant player when it comes to think about who ruined his career. Kendrick Perkins? There's just there.

You could say Kendrick because you're talking about his name sometimes. There's just a shot, an image just in my head of Andre and having the ball and Kevin Durant yelling at him shoot like that guy rhodgeraldtso no man Kyrie Irving tabo no god we probably have to go draymond realistically he literally left the greatest team we've ever seen in our lifetimes because draymond green was that fucking mean to him I don't know if it can't be german because he worse he won at the end of the day who cares they could have won three more but draymond green was mean to him

2021 2021 they should have won a championship with the Nets Karee said not my body But now overall There's too much good for that Dremont Green's worse Yeah

Bradley Beal Yeah he got nothing out of it completely But also I think I might have to go Draymont over Bradley Because Bradley I can't Because I was going to say

that Bradley didn't ask for it He quite literally approved The trade to go over So I can't say that Bradley Bill just got got a bag. He just wasn't that good. Dremont Green actively decided to do actions that led to Kevin Red leaving.

It's Drenwin Green. You try to show him on the court too. Best? Steph Curry. Seth Curry. Easily. It changed his life. He facilitated you getting a finals MVP.

He came in. He built a foundation you came in and built your legacy on. Stuff Curry. Yeah. Played again. Russ is number two, though. Sure. Luca Donchich.

Best and worst teammates. Kyrie has to be the best. Interesting. I think. They made the finals together. I guess you're right. Yeah, Kyrie. I think Kyrie should be the best.

Changes play style. They both change the play style to fit with one another. I can see Kyrie been a best. No, Austin Reeves, love. They're best buddies. They're best friends. Hell not. They're going to be together for a long time.

Getting early. You got to do something first. You got first round about Rudy Gobert. Can't be the best yet. Worst. LeBron James, you're making $6 million. You don't deserve it. You don't deserve it.

You're tanking this team. Who's like the most annoying guy? K.P. It's easily porzingis. Yeah. Porzingis. They thought they were getting him the star that fit with him

for a decade. This European duo would be so cool. So marketable shit blew up so fast. They hated each other. Prozingus hated him so fucking much, bro, in his play style. And the worst part about it is Prusinguis has come out

afterwards and be like, yeah, my mouth tripping. Exactly. I should just bought it. Yeah. It's like a show to set those screens. We could have been the most dominant European duo ever

and you messed it up. Just because you don't want to stand in the corner and get open threes. He didn't want to set a pick and pop. What else would you do? you are a porzengis. He thought it was mellow. You're seven, three.

Selfish. Kobe Bryant's, best and worst teammates. Worst is Kwamey Brown. Hands down. No. Or like Smush Parker. So no, Kobe's the worst teammate to Smush Parker. Smished and do a damn thing at Kobe.

Kobe just decided to pick a fight. I think if we weigh importance and quality of player and how much they determine the player's legacy, the worst is easily Dwight Howard. Okay. Dwight Howard not making it work and being not the right personality fit for Kobe Bryant's style of personality. Forced him to tear an Achilles. Correct.

They completely fell on her face. That should have been a super team and it lasted a year. You could go Dwight, man. You could go Dwight. Best. Best is obviously. Shaq? Is she a Shaq or Powell?

Can you say Shaq? There's such a downside. Yeah, I think I would say pal. I'll say pal. Or is this another one like Steph Curry where the best and worst is Shaq for both? That's honestly, that could be up for debate. That could be up for debate. But I think Powell and their off-the-core relationship are my lad.

They spoke different languages to each other on the court. A different level of chemistry. Pals is keeping up with Kobe's family. It's pal. Let's give it to Powell. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Pau's an uncle to his daughter.

It's pal. Yeah. Jason Tatum. His worst teammate. Kyrie. Kari could be Marcus Smart. Kimball Walker. That ain't work at all.

They tried to make him to do the next stuff. He was just bad. I think Kyrie is the one that's like actively, you're really messing this up. They lost a playoffs series because Kyrie decided to go guard Janus and decide to blow up the defensive game plans. Is that true? Yes. Can we try to check Janice?

What the fuck is what? He's like, let me get him. That's the only reason they lost, but the camera she blew up. And it wasn't all Kyrie, but we can go Kyrie for worst. And then for best, it probably is Jaylen Brown. It's clearly Jaylen Brown. They're best buddies for life. Probably going to go down as one of the more iconic duos of modern NBA history

just for the amount of time they spent together the amount of trojan tribulations they played through, hit the mountain top, fell down with injury, my hit the mountain top again, they're on pace to be a very iconic duo. Facts. Yeah. Gilbert Arena's best and worst teammates. Nick Young. Easy. For what?

Nick Young or Gil was Nick Young's vet and so they were locked in like that. But then also they were disgusting brothers. So you're saying Nick Young's is best. Your best and worse. There's that one more. Clear and obvious worst. Who's the worst? Perhaps the one he pulled it out on.

Hey man. You're a grown man. I don't know if he can't be worse. I can't put him at worst. Yeah. That was Gilbert's own decision. Nick Young is hilarious. So you're saying the one he got into a near gunfight with is not his worst he made.

No, that's an internal problem. Okay. You respect hashtag it out the right way? Yeah. So everybody talks about it. But it's because of the locker room, catch me up in the back. They actually did it. Because on one hand, you do have to respect that of like, you challenged me.

I stepped up to the challenge. Now we're here. What are you prepared to do? Like, I do get that salute to you. I hate you. Let's die. Right. There's a, it's got, it's got a poetic.

But also, once again, you're a grown man. You're thinking, you don't have to be doing this. He's crazy, man. He really said, you throw your life away. I throw my life away. He's insane for that. Jimmy Butler, best. and worst teammate.

Ooh, man. Now worst, we have a laundry list of failed teammates. Cat comes to mind at immediately towards number one. There's so much. It's probably Cat. Cat was the franchise player, and he was like, that guy is big, soft, and I hate him. Give me his money. They didn't work out.

Left the team. Also, Tobias Harris. Oh, yeah. Tobias over me. Yeah. If he was, Tobias Harris wasn't there, they would have had to keep me. but is that a is that a Tobias Harris thing or nope but guess who he blames to guess who gets who he has a little edge on against him every time

I mean I think it's better to go cat it's definitely cat it's a hundred percent cat he's so one to one like I hate you you are weak as fuck and everybody notice and everybody started saying that forever best is it is it BAM you made it they made up the finals of BAM yeah made him and Dwell and B they love each other Him and Steph Curry love each other. Him and doing Wade love each other. It's D. Wade. Maybe D. Wade.

Nah. Nah. Nah, it's definitely not D. But their homies off the court. He's the reason why they're, he's in Miami. He's in Miami. And they've been really successful. But I don't think that BAM is the number one teammate.

It doesn't feel like it. I guess it has to be just by default. But yeah, nothing screams the iconic duo to me there. This guy's a mercenary. But I guess you go, bam. They made two finals. It has to be that. It's the most successful duo.

Yeah. I guess. Okay. Russell Westbrook, best and worst. His worst. Best is Kevin Durant. Okay. Probably because there's no other other option.

Really? Who else did he click with and has some great duo with? Nicole Yolkich, I guess. I don't know, man. Loki that year was magical there. Yeah, like he changed and the narrative for six months about his career. Yeah. I'll be like three.

I'll go KD for best. Worst. Lebron. There's a lot of bad ones. LeBron. Is LeBron James quite easily? And they are inverse, like, Russ is LeBron's worst.

Yeah. The worst thing to ever happened to Russ is getting traded to LeBron's team. Actually, the worst thing never happened to Russ was with him stopping being on to make jumpers. The second worst thing never happened to Russ who can trade to LeBron's team. Yeah. The third thing, that's the worst thing. He's blowing layups now. The number one thing that I just can't get out of my mind is that pregame video where he was like, all right, y'all, let's have fun.

One, two, three, four. Wait. And LeBron was just in the corner. pissed as hell. Yep, yep, yep. It's LeBron pretty easily. Chris Paul, best and worst teammates.

His best team might be Devin Booker. They went to the finals. Yeah. Perfect yin-yang. Could argue, say, because they had that one

weird year way there where no one had expectations for them. And he's still friends. And he's been like super locked in. Yeah. But they didn't win anything. Didn't win you do with the Hornets?

It's definitely not Blake. It's definitely not Blake. Yeah, it's not hard. It's not hard. And they fell out, which I think we forget. forget about that they like oh well they demanded each other to be traded who's he cool with

man i said shame every teammate ends poorly chris was going on man maybe the clips are right we'll go devon booker why not where's teammates huh deandre yeah i mean there was but they made it far there was real beef that far those real beef i forgot who's it there was there was and him and hardin like it ended bad Yeah, I think the Hardin one, it ended bad, but it was such short-lived that I think maybe the Blake one probably Chris Paul said, I need you to trade Hardin. And he said, get the fuck out of my face. I don't remember that at all.

That's crazy. More to Chris Paul's audacity than the hatred. I'll go, I'll go with Blake River. Do we just go, oh, wait. Let's go, Kauai, Leonard. Kauai, nah. Dude, they just sent Chris Paul home because he didn't fit with his team. No, so then it has to be James Harding.

Because he was there again. Yes. They fell out in Houston. And they fell out here. Twice. Timelines are falling out. It has to be James Hardin. Got him shipped away to be banished to Oklahoma

and then got him shipped away to be banished in his farewell tour. Now, was it all James Hardin? No. But he was there at the scene of the crime twice. That's quite the coincidence. He got longevity when it comes to falling out with people. Generation of talent, man.

Trey Young. Worst teammate for Trey Young. DeJante Murray. Easily. Easily Deshante Murray. I can't believe that. They did that. Or is it Jalen Johnson

because he got so good. It got Tray Young shit the fuck out of town. Nah. Nah, not Jalen Johnson. Jalen Johnson directly led to Tray Young being a Washington wizard. No, Desonte Murray really did that. You're right. You're right.

He really started the downfall. He was the first domino. Jaylon Johnson is just going upstairs to the GM's office every day. Like, listen, man. He's going yet? I'm not here whooping. He's not. He's not. Best teammate. I don't know fucking Klinkapela, I guess. I mean, honestly, he was the second best power on that 20-21. It's Clinkapela. Run. You can say Clint. It's easily here and there. Clint was so dominant defensive. He said like no chemistry with anybody else ever.

It's easily, Clint. Yeah. You could say John Collins for two seconds. He has no other good connections. He has to go back to that 2021 run. John Collins? Where are his best teammates at? Kevin Herder?

Nowhere. Donne Collins? Pergatory. Again, purgatory. Danilla Gallagallari retired. Clinkapella, he's running on Houston's bench. Like, there's no one there. Cam Reddish.

He's in Europe. Shit. Like his teammates are just ass-all. Honestly, best, no answer for that. Josh Hart, best and worst teammates. I mean, best is Jalen Brunson. I don't know. That's Brody.

In some ways, is it worst? What? Why? We have video evidence. Josh Hart. Commend a crime to Jalen Brunson. I think this is honestly in one of the rare occasions

where he's both. Jalen Brunson is both. Jaylorne their best friends, awesome. Revival, revitalizes career in New York also led to a crazy video that will never be forgotten. Yeah.

I can't speak. Now is it Jalen Brunce's fault? No, he didn't do anything. Literally, he's a victim. You got a shot. Yeah. This got problems, man. You're walking around?

This guy got issues. It's open. So I'm not going to poke. Hide it, Dan. Like, what? There's videos where it's like that creepy all talking to his coworkers at a restaurant. Josh, sorry. You keep walking around.

It's a Drewski skin of that right there. Jayla keeps walking around with all that motion. Oh, no. You got to get folks. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. why do you do that? Yeah, J.B.

You're still the worst, man. Jay B's a victim for sure. This dude's a nasty, man. Crazy, man. My God. This camera's everywhere, bro, like, you're psycho, bro.

It's so threatened, too. Those videos are hilarious. Oh, man. What's next? I'm walking out. Oh, man. Okay. Damny.

I am thinking of an NBA player. You guys are going to have 60 seconds to guess who the player is. I'm going to pull up a timer. It's going to be on the screen. And you guys have 60 seconds to guess it. So I'm going to pull up a stopwatch. This is rapid fire. Yep.

So you better talk fast. Try to talk over each other because you've got to really utilize this time. All right. What player don't want to hit you guys with? How hard do I want to make this? Hmm. Don't want to put you in hell. Okay.

I got a player. 60 seconds against the player. Your time starts now. Austin Reeves. This is not Austin Rees. That's hilarious. Does he play today? He does play today.

Is he in the Western Conference? He is not on the Western Conference. So he's in the East. Is this team in a playoff pitcher? Yeah. Yeah, I think so. Is he a starter? He is a starting player.

Is he a front court player? He, every time you say that, he is a front court player. Okay. Okay. Cool. Was he drafted within the last 10 years? No.

Ooh, old. Is this Alphold? Horford. This is not El Horford. We're talking about the Easter Conference. Good guess. My bad is this Paul George. It's not a good guess. This is not Paul George. Now Paul George. He's old. He's a starter.

Tobias Harris. This is not Tobias Harris. Good guess. Is his team on a top dang it? You probably don't know. Is his team on the top four seat in the east? I think so. It fluctuates a lot, but he should be. Top four seat in the east. Is this Yakoporo? This is not Yakuperto. Good guess.

Cat. This is cats. Yes. Hell yes. You guys got to be six seconds to Fair. You nailed it. That was a 53 seconds you got there. Perfect. I was a sick of guess for everything, even though it was not a good guess. He said, I'll hoffered, brother. You just said he was in the Eastern Conference.

Come on now. You guys got it. You want to do one? Can I, I think I can do one right about now. Yeah. Got a player? Yep. Okay.

Let's do it. Three, two, one. Is this player retired? No. Are they black? Yes. Okay. Do they have long hair?

No. Okay. Do they play in the Eastern Conference right now? No. Does this player dunk? No. Is this player a guard? Yes.

Is it Steph Curry? No. Okay. Has this player been drafted in the last five years? No. Is this player an elite passer? No. It's not Luca Donchich.

Is this player an elite shooter? Yeah. Okay. Is he a good defender? Um, sure. Is this player 6-5 or below? No. Has this player won a championship?

Yes. Okay, 6-6-round shooter, not a great defender, has won a championship in the Western Conference. This is Christian Brown? No. Is it Jamal-Marie? No. Is this a player started right now?

Yes, I believe so. He has a championship. Did he win a championship in the last 10 years? Yes. Western Conference Championship. Is it Clay Thompson? Yes. Let's go.

Four seconds to spare. He's actually 6-5. I thought it was 6-6. I think he is. I thought he was six seven. Yeah, he's like six or six seven with that with shoes. Yeah, Google just told me he was six, five. But I thought he was six, seven.

A whole lot of answers. Well, maybe they changed it with with shoes. Yeah. He's higher. Okay, cool. Woo, that was clutch as fuck. That was intense. I feel like every time we do this, we're going to get it in the last five seconds.

Yeah. You're never going to get it before then. That was so clutch. God damn. Clay Thompson would never fail me. You say good defender or good shooter. Good defender. Yeah, these days, who's to say.

I don't know. I'm just going to say, yeah. Last thing we're going to do today We're going to play NBA start bench cut I have nine total players All point guards You got to pick three to start Three to bench and three to cuts

Okay It's kind of like It's kind of like Keep for a Cut for With three sections Okay let's do it First player up John Wall Your peak John Wall

Peak John Wall Everybody in the best I'd want to start But we got to do bench Because I'm thinking he has All time players here Yeah Well John Wall is an all time player

Yeah We'll go bench to John Wall Okay, first bench, we got John Wall. Next player. They don't understand 2016, 2017, John Wall. They don't. They don't. Kemba Walker. Cut.

Sorry. I love you, Kemba, man, but you can't play it for my team. Great step back. Pointed to legend. I'm sorry. You think I'm going to have six stars on here. Yep. Okay.

Next player up, I have Lonzo ball. Cut. Damn. Probably to the Kempkeb, but it's okay. It's okay, but Lanzo has to be cut. Only one cut left. No starts left. If it was UCA, Lonzo.

Hey, you can start for us. Some players. Derek White's. Oh, we will keep. Bench. Yeah. I think we just have to keep Derek White just to. Well, yeah.

Just, oh yeah, start. You want to start him? Just because we have to keep options open. I don't know if I want to start him. You don't have to do anything. Sir, you could, starting him might look real nasty. It. Him as a bench player is perfectly fine.

You have two bench spots. Yeah, like. You. Okay. You know what? Keep options open? Cool. You can start them. Don't fuck my list though.

Fine. You know what? Bench Derek. Okay, I was going to say, that is horrific logic. Do whatever you guys want. That's terrible logic. I'd want to bench him. Jalen Brunson.

Start. Perfect. Easy. Let's go. Okay. You got space. Is Jalen Brunson better than Peak Wall? Yes.

Yes. I would say so. Is it a conversation? Yes. Is it a close conversation? Yes. But Jaylen Brunson is better. Yeah.

Okay. That's interesting. I think, I think for this team, this next team specifically, Prime Zawal might be better off for this. I don't know because the score is kind of but he would get cat way more involved. Yeah.

So it's a difficult conversation. Next name. You guys are done well so far. Steph Curry. We are starting step Curry. Yeah, okay. Two across the board. Now you guys have to make some tough decisions.

One spot remaining in each category. It's going to be easy. Goran Drogic. One time All-Star. If we're mentioned a one-time All-Star, I'm fine. Yeah, I'm fine with cutting him. I love him. I love him so much.

Well, you said, bitch, you said cut. Where we're going? Let's cut him. Cut him. Okay. So that means you're assuming there's two more all-stars remaining. Fair. Okay.

I can live with it. Goran Drogic. This is intense. They don't respect the 2015 season. They don't. I do. For two seconds, I wanted to bench him, but only one all-star year. I'm good.

Next player. 2026. K. K. K. Cunningham. Starting him. We are starting 2026 Kade Kunningham. Yeah. This is a, right now, it is a top-time player in the world.

This is a player that is a player that is a leader. leading his team to the number one seat in the Eastern Conference. I'm riding and dying with Kate Cunningham. I don't, these are modern players. I will not feel bad about this. You don't have to die with anybody. You can just. We are riding and dying with Cade Cunningham.

I don't know about the dying part, but. I don't want to. I don't want to. So we're starting Cade. Yes. Last player on this list. Who are we benching? 2017 Ben Simmons.

That's not terrible and that is the right choice. This is perfect. I'm not going to lie. For the first time in this show's history of Keep 4, Cut 4 4 of anything to the sore. You have successfully

made the correct list. Zero mistakes made. People could debate the Ken Bill Walker Derek White thing, but I personally would rather have Derek White on myself. Especially for a bench,

for the spirit of it on the bench, give me Derek White. Yeah. I think you guys have this exactly right. Wow. Okay.

This is crazy, man. How does victory feel? I got to remember this. I got to take a picture in this real picture. Honestly, you think I'm lying, but hold on.

Take a picture with your iPad. Are you 80? Exactly. selfie myself to remember this moment did you take a selfie yourself I swear to God I did it showed to the camera I took a selfie man you think I'm lying

here it is show to the camera here is unresponsive ass iPad see and then here's the win right here nice I got to remember the good all days

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