The Deep 3 Podcast - It's Time For The Clippers To End Their Suffering | TD3 Clips

Episode Date: December 2, 2025

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Four weeks. I have been up here and I've been talking about the fact that the Clippers are the biggest disaster in the NBA. They keep getting worse.

They have blown a 15-point lead to lose to the Memphis Grizzlies. They are now 5 and 14 on the season. I think it's about time the Clippers and the Clippers fans could put out of their misery. Then do what? Like kill them?

Well. Put down CP3? What? Well, perhaps trade some players if we want to slow it down a little bit. Or if we want to go that far. Too far. I went too far.

I mean, listen. Nothing's off the table. It feels like this team has no more hope. Last week, we talked about them on the biggest surprise of the season. And we talked about the fact that, one, not only are we surprised that James Hardin feels like he said a second wind, second prime, he can get to the rim again, looks as good as he's looked in the last five years. Not only be surprised by that, we're surprised that that can be the case and that Kauai can

be having an efficient season. And that shit doesn't matter because there's still one of the worst teams in the league. That combination of facts is outlandish, but we talked about them. We said, or at least I said, I'll give them some time because you could very easily see them turning around and being a playing team and looking pretty normal compared to expectations, right? Two more bad losses since then sitting at 5 and 14, I don't longer think that's possible.

I think this team is doomed. And I'm kind of starting to think it doesn't matter what pick you give to OKC if you're a Clippers fan. You might have to just get all the value you can and completely blow this up. They, okay, so yes, I agree that they do have to blow it up because we're already, once you know

that you're going to be in the lottery, we're already past the point of anything can happen in the lottery. and you you just know that like you can be in a situation where you give somebody a top five pick but maybe the lottery you know the ping pong ball is working your favor and you end up giving them like the 11th pick or instead of the number one pick and you see how you see how the rest of the season plays out but you have to look at this year and be like I'm leaving here with something yeah like it really has no bearing to you if you give okay see the seventh pick

and you ride it out and you try real hard and you've let Hardin get his numbers and you say better luck next year we got put butts in seats or if you give him

the second pick but you trade Hardin get something in return somehow trade Kauai is probably not possible trade maybe it's Zubot whatever it looks like feels like

they need to set themselves up right for the future because this does not feel like there's any chance of them becoming relevant in a playoff setting and if that's not the case why even keep running this together

and hoping for some mediocre outcome I think the only reason why you want to do so is for the sake of the fans for the sake of just having respect for yourself and also trying to show the fans that you are a legitimate business at the end of day if you're in you have the best interest

for them, their entertainment and you want to give them something to at least try to root for. And if you're doing so, like I think you're not going to get anything adequate to James Harden or Kauai or even if you trade Zubach. If there's one thing that's been made abundantly clear

in the last few months that Clippers fans have no doubt to do not even proven, it's that Steve Bomber is running a business. That part is completely apparent to them for many reasons. Do you think Clippers fans are having fun? Do you think Clippers fans feel respectable? Do you think they're like, oh, yeah, at least we're trying? I think they're probably in goddamn despair, and they have nothing to root for right now.

Would you feel good about watching Harding Zubach hoop and get four wins every month? I guess, okay, so like the artist stuff, yes, because that is your meal to get out, right? To get to get some type of value and do anything. Outside of that, no, I'm not having fun. The entire league is looking at us like scammers. The entire league is looking at us as failed scammers because they did all of this and didn't have a championship, didn't get a finals appearance. They are one of the worst teams in the league right now.

And the vibes are always like weird. We've had a lot of Tailu Rumblings this year. There was a specific postgame interview where Kaua was like, yo, man, like I just think we just need to get more talent out there. There's better players out there. That's insane for a star at that level. That shit's not coming. You got who you got, buddy. And on top of that, there was this comment where they asked James Hardin about what it's like right now.

And he was just like, shit's tough. The situation here is difficult. It's the question. The response. And look at the body language and he said that. I'll play this. Yeah. He looked.

He looked right. He looked away. He was scratching his face. Look at his fingers. Yeah. It's not too great over here. I don't know about you all. Look at him.

No eye contact whatsoever. Roll in his eyes. The swaying side to side. situation is difficult if you do decide to move off of Hardin and Kauai you're just at this point in time thinking about you can't plan for the next five years yep because you don't have your pick until 2030 and at that point in time you're just like what hoping for middle tier middle pack NBA players who have who have the ability to put up numbers like I don't know a Nas read or some of that some like that to give you guys give fans a reason to come out and support that's what

you're looking for I think I guess yeah or I guess I would say say, so one, so I'm saying they should blow it up. That's obviously, it's easy for me to say. It's always easy for us to say as non-fans, non-members of the front office. People that don't really have a vested stake in what happens to the Clippers, it's easy for us to be like, I don't want to watch this, blow it up, yada, yada. But they really are left with two choices. Like we talked about for weeks now, you keep it together, you try to get into the

plane race, try to sell some playoff revenue, try to just be respectable because you don't have your picks, so you might as well keep your good vets and do the best you can every year until you can do a proper rebuild. But clearly the ship has sailed. The best is not going to be anything closer respectable, so it seems so far, barring a John Collins breakouts, Kauai, health. I've been waiting for seven years of that, man. Yeah, whatever.

Leaving the door open for something crazy to happen, just because you never know in the NBA, it's probably not going to happen. So it kind of feels like you're either going to stay in tread water and be bad, but get points with Harden, I guess, or try to do it like Brooklyn Nett style rebuild and you don't have your picks. And, you know, they have no control their picks, but they're mostly pick swaps. pray to God you draft someone good at pick 22 that's not happening bro earlier when I was getting water upstairs I just curious and I was like man let me look at their actual draft history over the

last I don't know 15 20 years or so it's so bad I don't think a singular NBA team in the history of the league has as bad of a draft history as these guys right here going back from I don't know let's say random year 2018 where I think they drafted miles of bridges or something like that and also Jerome Robinson and Jerome Robinson hasn't been known for nothing he did that absolutely nothing in this league. Look at this list right here. So this year they drafted Yannick, who obviously isn't playing it. Raw, rookie. I don't even know if he's with a team. And D. O'R.

I traded him to Nick. So just one pick this year. Last year, Cam Christie, which is their most promising young player. Nothing. Who's only kind of promising, but he is somewhat promising. You're before that. Kobe Brown and Jordan Miller. Kobe Brown gets some burn. Jordan Miller, okay. I've seen Kobe Brown play. I can't tell you a single defining trade of his. I really don't know. Musa Diabate,

who is now on the Hornets. And he's bawling out on the Hornets, too, currently. Quinn Grimes, who's on draft night another trade on draft night Terrence man he had a moment he had a moment back then 2019 this man is a widely vet he's pushing 30 this is their last hit in the first round

he is pushing 30 that was a second of graphic too oh never mind second round oops 2019 2018 drum robinson we've gone very far back in the years for only a few just keep going please it gets worse well now we're talking about Bryce Johnson Czech Diallo C.J. Wilcox I don't even remember who C.J. Bullock

This is old. They don't have anything this is what they're worst at They don't do the draft shit at all. And honestly, they really haven't had a successful Fershon's draft pick since Blake Griffin. Yeah, they don't do this at all. It's Shake of Lucas Alexander, too, but obviously, you know how that panned out. But seriously, their only hope is not through the draft.

They showcase, they've shown that when it comes to their draft department, they invest $0. They don't give a flank fuck about developing talent at all. And their best hope is to, okay, if you're going to trade Hardin and trade Kawhi, you got to go out to the free agency and just pay players. And that's possible. who are, like, who ask for too much money. Exactly.

It would be possible to rebuild through free agency. That shit is dead. When is the last time a really good player has left in free agency straight up? We're in the era of sign and trades and they don't got shit to sign and trade. I understand that. I would also say,

if you trade harden, the worst case scenario is you trade harden and then the league says, I'll take that pick. That is also looming. First of all, objectively, the funniest outcome. That would be great. That is the best outcome that is on the table.

If the H. And the NBA takes away that piece. You're so disrespectful. I'm just, I'm just saying we're talking through ideas here. We're trying to see what, what can't happen with this franchise because, again, they outside of that one run where they got to the conference finals,

which was without Kauai. Shout to Paul Joyce. That's like one of the highlights of his career, like legitimately like, carrying that team to the conference finals was awesome. The fact that you have never been able to put together two stars together and see any type of run. And the two times that they were actually healthy

would have been this last year and you choke away that series against the Nuggets or in the bubble and nobody else wanted to be there and you blow that 3-1 lead. You really have to once again research for your identity, which is basically what this team has been doing for the better part of 55 years. Their entire existence has been searching for identity.

And they still don't have that And now the headlines we see about this team Teams run the NBA are panicking Because the Thunder owned the Clippers pick We're at the point where rivals across the league Are DefCon 5 They're screaming doom They're saying we're all fucked

Because they might be back-to-back champs Are gonna get your pick And that is the greatest stimulus we've seen Since the defending champion Lakers Drafted James Boyle of number one overall Also we told y'all All last year we were saying The Thunder are like that

The Thunder are going to win the title They're the best team in the league. They're so good. They're so this. They're so that. And everyone called them frauds for nine months. And now all of a sudden it's like, oh, my God, the big bad wolf is going to get another pick. We've been saying this was on the horizon, but y'all didn't want to listen.

Y'all wanted to discredit the thunder. And we've been on top. And we've been on top of it and been telling you guys that this is what we're doing. Someone said we need the FTC in the NBA, this monopoly that OKC has got to be struck down. Yo, if y'all, these guys are bad news, they don't shut anything. You know, if the 27 other NBA teams, the 28 other NBA teams are actually panicking, do what's right. You guys need to go ahead, start a fucking potluck, right? And just give the Clippers some decent players so they can do better, bro, if you're actually panicking.

What he's saying is we need mutual aid for Steve Ballmer and the Clippers. We need to fan the community. We need FEMA. Everybody send your eight men. Let's call people from Cuba, bro. Like, I don't know what it is. Let's call some of the best EuroLeague MVP's, right? We need all the help that we can get at this point.

The market's cousin's coming over from that Puerto Rico league. Yes, please, bro. Yeah, and like, it's so tough, man. Like, it's so bleak that they really don't have any good options. You run the team back, you keep it together. Maybe you can claw to the 10 seed at best because some teams will drop out. But you are currently not even close to that. And maybe you're close because there's not that many games played so far.

So you're like two games out or something because a lot of the West are struggling. Nobody's watching them and saying they're so close to figuring it out. And a rebuild would have to be. be really relying on hitting late draft round, late picks, maximizing picks you get in trades and doing the Brooklyn Nets route, like I said, and they've shown exactly nothing to make us believe they're equipped to do that.

I don't even really know what the tell Clippers fans. Like, there's no help coming. There's not out. Pick a new team. That's like we told the Kings fans a couple weeks ago, you have the right as a man, as a woman, to pick a new team, to just say I'm abandoning my fandom and say I'm going to somewhere else.

Pick OKC. Go to where your pick is going. Follow the pick there. Follow the pick there. Follow loser to OKC and be a Thunder fan. You don't, yeah, you don't have to do this. Now, wherever you go, be loyal, stay there. But you, we understand. You get a one-time pass.

Choose wisely. There's moments in every fandom in every team's history where if people left that team and said, I can't do this anymore. You can, you can do that. For the Mavs, if they traded Luca and you said,

I will never root for this team again, I understand it. If you're the Kings, Anytime over the last 18 months, if you say, I can't do this anymore, we understand that. It's the same thing for the Clippers right now. Go ahead. Chad is doing a very good job reminding us of important detail. What is it?

We are talking about 16 people in the world right now. There's no Clippers fans. That is a good point. We were wasting a lot of time telling fans how to cope that probably don't exist. Damn. If you're a Clippers fans, I want to see how many Clippers fans are watching right now. There can't be more than three. If that.

In real life, I only know exactly one Clippers fan. You know what Clippers fan? One together. Met a Clippers, sir? I haven't even met him in real life. We're just ID friends. You got to put him in a cage. It's a mythical being.

Yeah, I know, but. Put him in a glass panel somewhere to observe. They're not going to believe it. He exists. I swear to God, he does. Three. I'm a Glippers fan. I swear he owns one.

Okay, I see I'm a Clippers fan. I'm seeing two. Three. I'm a fan of the clips. Hate it. Three. Wow. Yeah, so like, what would y'all do then?

Do you, I'm more importantly enough, what would you do? Do you have a will to live right now? Yeah. Like, all three of you in here? are you enjoying your life do you actually be tuning in and watching these games have you reached a point in nirvana where you just like have separated yourself from emotional fandom and you are just like you feel like fandom ego death yeah i never thought when this trade happened back in what 2019 that i'll be legitimately witnessing one of the probably five worst trades i'm

not so like detailed in all the sports but i'm gonna say it in all fucking sports by right now giving up an MVP future number one overall pick god knows what's going to happen back in 2026, 2027 and so on and so forth, bro, you fall on your face. Don't, you make it into what?

One Western Conference Finals and now you're just left with like nothing for the next five years. Didn't know it's going to be this bad. And it was funny too. They made one Western Conference Finals and like shout out them

for getting there and like shout out PG for having that performance of getting out the second round without Kauai. They made a conference finals in a year when there was no hope with them winning the conference finals

because there was no Kauai. So it was like, shout out us appearance. It was probably the least, least substantive conference finals appearance you could imagine that's hilarious well I mean you know

the Hawks in 21 but like but but there's a real band for ban for frauds that run listen ironically the same year but like they um that that conference final run also ended in shame

because Pat Ben remember he ran up behind Chris Paul like shut him in the back and gave him whiplash that's also terrible basically even whenever you guys do succeed Nothing good can happen. Yep, yep, yep.

And you don't deserve the happiness. You guys have fake success. Just have nothing to hang your hat on, bro. At least the Mavs got Cooper flag, bruh. Not nothing. Before we end this, I'm going to name a series of NBA teams, you tell me if you'd want to see them trade for James Harding. So just like, not even going into actual fake trade ideas,

but just thinking about the market of where he'd fit if you were to go up on the trade block. Okay. First team in Miami. Um, no. Dude, you think you don't, you don't want Miami to trade for anybody. Why?

What are they doing? They're not doing much. He hates Miami. He'll be super fun watching there, but I don't know how we'd fit alongside what they have going on there. And I don't think he's going to commit to playing a certain level of defense. You think he wants to play fast and down at the insane pace they play? Brother, the clippers are dead last and transition points. And it's because of that man right there.

He does not want to run. You send him to Eric Spulcher, his handstrings fall off the bone again. Hardening in Miami? It's dangerous, right? He'd love it there. No, man. I don't even know if they could put the money together. If they could, would you want to see him on the bucks?

That would be. Fun. Him and Janus after that beef to have with the MVP a couple years ago. But why are we going to demote Ryan Rollins? True. Do we?

Is that a downgrade? It might be. Nah, I got to keep him. Like, I'm getting Ryan Rollins and I'm getting this level of production for $4 million a year.

What if you keep Ryan Rollins though, too? I think I would do this. That's a bad to back court. I think this is a guarantee. But what are you giving up? You're not going to Ryan Rollins. Bobby Portis,

Kyle Kuzma. Oh, God. The beggars can be choosers. Oh, hey. My bad, my bad. You're blocked if you offer. offer up than I can never happen I would do it though Houston no pardoning KD Renaissance the boys are back together never keep pardon stay over there I don't want you in

Houston ever again enough of this on on again off again stop this this is not a sitcom you guys are broken up stay stay over there Phoenix Suns parent with Devon Booker they're having a good year shocking everybody sure it'll work I think it will work Jalen Green plus stuff to get the salary Philly? You know what? A small amount of picks. They don't really have picks. So it would just be like, do they want Jalen Green?

I think if I was the Clippers, I would do that. And if I was the Sons, yeah, sure, why don't you have nothing to lose at this point in time. Like, Jalen Green's not a building block for your future at all. And Horton could carry your offense to a certain degree. Him and Booker would be nice. Yeah, like that will alleviate so much pressure off with Booker. His efficiency would rise up again. Yeah, like, oh my gosh, we're back to just fake basketball.

That's what they need. That's what they need. Minnesota Timberwolves. Do you want to see him go there and save Anne's life? Yes. I think if he went there, I would, I obviously, it matters like what's in the deal. But Hardin playing at this level and the Edwards, I would trust them again to make a deep run into the playoffs. Hardin?

Deep run in the playoffs. Do you realize he has a certain amount of words that you just put together? You never did that forever in your life. This isn't even him being high on Hardin. This is Ant glaze. He thinks the aura of Ant can save all things, including Hardin's playoff reputation. Yes. Hardin and.

Rudy Gaubert, this is going to be the most hateable teams of certain people. Now, there would be a situation where we get into a fourth quarter of a playoff game and James Hardin, pissing down his leg. And you, and like Rudy go bare? Chris, wait. Chris Finch looks over at the bench,

he's like, he looks at Rob Dealingham. He just sighs. All right, let's get this straight. Rob Dealingham is going to Los Angeles. He's in this straight. I want to see you. He's looking at a bode island and saying, fuck. I think of this trade

What's that happened? They will be a lock To be a top four seat In the Western Conference A lock for sure That'd be filthy And they need the playmaking Obviously we've talked about it

They're gonna be a good team That makes a run With their without a point guard If they want to have a chance Of upsetting the best teams In the NBA They need a point guard bad But if it involves

Giving away Jen Daniels Can't do it Can't do it Oh no no That wouldn't even be That wouldn't even be a consideration Jada McDaniels I said Jada Daniels

It would be like Randall if they want to sell high Or like Nause and stuff Smart for Randall. I would do that. Selling high and Randall for Hardin? The only problem is like the, now you have a two-year window. You're small, but like Hardin, I mean, I don't know.

But not size-wise, but you have a two-year window before you assume Hardin hits an age cliff. And I would take that two-year window and prepare for the next phase of the Anthony Edwards era for sure. Okay. Which is basically what they do every year anyway. Yeah, they think short term. Okay, next conversation. Rudy Gobert told Jalen Brown to shave his head. Did y'all see this video?

He points his head. He says, come on, brother. Yo, if I was, I'd be so mad if I was dealing brown, bro. Come home, brother. That's so bad, bro. Oh, my God. What's a French accent sound like? How do you say that in French accent?

I have no idea what a French accent is. I can't even remember really good. They're talking out of top of my head. They just sound whack. They sound just lame? This is hilarious. Wembe might be the only cool Frenchman. The only cool Frenchman?

You don't mean that. It's cool about Wemby. Maybe. He said what he said besides movie. He's a picture coat. Yeah, I can't. Yeah, I don't know if Balala is cool. He doesn't look cool.

Tony Parker's amazing, legend. I don't know if he's cool. People do not like Tony Parker. Nobody described as cool. I'm starting to notice a trend that I never thought about before. There are no cool Frenchman for real. Yeah, the French whack. We're Alex's off.

He's from France. Alex has French. Yeah, nah. Is he cool? He's on the line. He can earn cool, right? He's not uncool. But he hasn't earned the stamp of being a cool Frenchman yet.

We're Americans. are like bar for cool is different it's hard to gauge what you think you think they're the rock one elics are in france that he's the coolest no probably not he's next up i i have no idea it's also hard when like the national image of what a like frenchman looks like it's just some dude riding riding around on a bike with a baguette in his backpack what are you talking about just saying we we like they're saying respect t-john saline hell no he's cool okay Bichichich Batoon's cool. Yeah, he's the leader.

They're talking about him. I won't, I will not lie. I will not lie. The tune's cool. When I watched the, uh, the Netflix doc, uh, quarter gold and they had the camera in there and like the French, they had this one game where like they were down at halftime and Batoon went in there. He was yelling at everybody in French.

I laughed so hard. I can't take you seriously if you yelling in French. It, it sounds like it, it's not a serious language to where I can like, Like, if you're yelling in French, yo, stop that. Stop, stop. Stop. The image of an American calling a France and a French and a serious language. It was so funny.

I was like, I'm not listening to anything. You know what? French people when they speak English is unserious. Maybe in French, if they're just going, jumping bars, maybe it could be like, Nicholas Bacin was spinning. No, listen. And like, basically based off of his tone, in his body language

and his vocal inflection I knew he was saying some real stuff Oh so you're talking about when he's speaking French Yes Oh okay So you're just all out

Oh yeah Yeah yeah No okay We're all the way Yeah What the fuck are they talking about you're right I feel like that

I was cracking Brits and then like People from London shit They were saying Zachary Risha Shay is cool Man There's a lot of things Zacharychia

I think he needs to be in Atlanta for like four more years And then I think we get combos going Not this year What's gonna happen to him

He's there Four more years It's gonna change him I think he might Get a sleeve tattoo A sleeve tattoo, okay. Yeah, sleeve tattoo. He probably will have.

He was going to start talking like Ariana Grande. Enough money for some grills and shit. He already got braids. What's that video where she tells somebody to get your ass over here? What did she say? What's the name? I forgot. She's recording a video doing a selfie and her like makeup sauce is behind her.

And she has the craziest black sense. I forgot her name, but she's like, get your ass in the picture. That's crazy, boy. That's crazy. That's going to be Zach. I think, I think Zach, by year four, we'll probably get like a random booths. in with

No young nudity Yeah, Komi, Kiyomi, get your ass in the picture. That's funny. Let's like

what the next disaster on our list. She was really brown too. Oh, she was using that B. Davidson skit

where he's like, you ex-girlfriends to spray paints herself orange. She was orange and shit. Oh, let's need her best music, so we need your back.

She has a change size again. So honestly. Do what you got to do for the classroom. It's okay. Thank you.