The Deep 3 Podcast - LeBron James' Body Just Ended The Lakers' Season | Ep. 26

Episode Date: March 2, 2023

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So today's a very special episode. On the top of the show, we have a few NBA news stories to talk about what's popping this week. But after that, we're going to do a fan-led Q&A episode. We asked y'all on YouTube, we asked you all on Discord, Instagram, everywhere to drop us questions. And you gave us a lot. I am terrified because terrifying people watch our stuff. What? What a way to start?

Yeah, I don't trust me. Who are you scared of? I know. I'm scared of terrible questions. Our average age demographic is like 16.5, I bet. I don't know why you're scared. You're being harassed by minors. That's what's happening?

I'm scared. Before we get to the Q&A, let's talk about some big stories. First thing we've got to talk about, we got to lead to Lakers because there's a devastating Lakers story. LeBron James is going to miss at least the next two weeks, probably three because it's going to be ramp up period if their Lakers are even in a point where they're contending enough to even come back at all? Where do we begin?

What were y'all thinking about the team before that he got hurt? I kind of thought that they were going to that they were going to make the playoffs after the comeback you think that like okay that's a game that you're for sure supposed to lose and you got one that you were not supposed to get and you're probably like on the right path to probably getting into that into the last playing spot right

you're trending towards 500 season's over now though it's it's a wrap it's a wrap probably I mean so for you all who don't know the Lakers just played the Mavericks and they were down by 28 points in the second quarter which was the biggest deficit anybody's comeback from the season teams they were down by that much I think were 0 and 128 yeah crazy somehow they fucking pulled victory from the jaws of defeat and now they're three games other 500 about to four games now because they just lost the grizzlies as we're recording this but yeah I feel like the collective sentiment around this team was

pretty positive it was like oh they're a real team now Jared van der boat put the team on its back in the last game, AD looked good, LeBron's LeBron, like, the team made sense, right? Like, Mo, did you think they were going to make a run? Yeah, absolutely. I think the last podcast that we did, I said that the Lakers were going to go, like, they're going to win 15 games, go like 8 and 15 and 8 or whatever it was. And, like, the things that we saw over the weekend with them against the Mavs and how they played, like, it's, I feel like what I spoke was happening.

Like, it was, I felt validated, you know, and then, of course, like, this just feels like this, there's no other way to, like, package this season other than, like, you know, the end of the season, so LeBron, with LeBron being hurt. Very fitting in a very annoying way. Literally, like, devastating. It started out with Dela. We forget Dela was out, too. They did all that with Dela. I was impressive. I was a super impressive win by the Lakers, but, yeah, so LeBron's for sure.

they're going to check him again two weeks from today they're going to evaluate it and look from there so looking at the thing they basically if he misses two weeks that's seven games let's say on the best case scenario he that's after those two weeks he can come back but there's going to be a ramp up period say he misses eight games they have to go like five and three to be stay afloat and have a chance for the last what is it like 11 games when he gets back it's over yeah yeah it's probably something around so they just lost one so they have to go five and two over the next seven games That's not happening. It's very difficult.

That's not happening. It's a wrap. Yeah, especially if Anthony Davis is not going super sane, like he was way earlier in the season. He went crazy tonight, though. He was pretty close that tonight. He was great. So what was the score tonight versus the Memphis series? Last time I said, they're getting their backs going out.

They lost 121 to 109 tonight. It was a close game the whole time. And then the fourth quarter, or really second half job really just like turned it on. But it was a close game. They never got their basketballing out. okay cool it was a close game that 88 but because lebron's out because delos out they had no point guards and they had a ridiculous amount of turnovers i think last time i checked the grizzles had 38 points off for turnovers which you know that's going to happen where you don't have your

two passers in the game yeah sucks dude it sucks if they had delo then i would like not because dilo's like a savior or anything like that but soon because he's a point guard and he can yeah they need his passing the offense and yeah they need a they need a facilitator but not having deal and lebron really fucking stinks yeah it's like if dilo comes back next game it's fucking hope he's okay if they went like four and four or the next four eight games and we're still four games under 500 and lebron comes back they'd have to win like six straight like yeah it's it's a wrap it's a rap yeah it's unless we get a miraculous effort where the team fighting for a live somehow comes out on top and wins more games than we think it's not looking

good it's it's it's a it's a rap because they have another game against the grisleys i think in the four or in the next five and it was hard yeah and listen they went out a the night that they that of like the entire shannon sharp incident they stole one from the grisleys that night i promise you they're not stealing another one from memphis for the rest of the season there if they have memphis on the schedule that's an l um do you have does anybody have the schedule with i do i know they play the memphis the phoenix suns twice next next the next though so seven games they have the thunder with no shay so they should would win tomorrow, you'd fucking hope.

Okay. The Timberwolves on Friday. Two may be. I think it's a toss-up. If D-D-lose there, it's a toss-up. The Warriors on Sunday, no Steph. Probably a loss. They're still respectful without Steph.

Grizzlies again, next Tuesday. Probably a loss. Next Friday, they play the Raptors, which that's a winnable game. The Raptors are kind of turbulent. But they're also kind of nice. They've been on lately. They've been on lately. And then after that, the Knicks and the Pelicans.

Oh, man. Pelicans reekers reek, but the Knicks have been... That's actually a lot better than what I thought. It could be four and three. It wouldn't be impossible to be four and three. I don't know, man. I just have no hope. If they go four and three, they have a chance where LeBron comes back.

If he comes back immediately. I highly doubt. It's a big if. Yeah, nah. Him saying, I heard a pop. And that's the best case scenario on the injury as well. LeBron said I heard a pop. LeBron's dramatic as fuck.

Like, I mean, I heard a pop by Achilles. LeBron's dramatic as hell. Like, he came up and played. Everyone's like, oh, no, do you tear his Achilles? No. LeBron likes attention. Like, come on. Oh my goodness, bro.

Nah, that sounded terrible. Enough to miss two weeks, so that sucks. Yeah, and again, the two weeks is best case scenario. Yeah, that's when they're going to re-evaluate him again. So it could be another weekend for that. Yeah, exactly. Honestly, if I'm on the Lakers, it's not even worth stressing over and, like, putting a 38-year-old's body on the line just to get like a 10 to 15, 20% chance

max to make the Western Conference finals even, I would say? Like, it's just not worth the risk. West the conference finals? What are you talking about final? I don't think about playing. I know. I know. I know.

I know. But I'm just saying, like, I'm not risking LeBron just to make the plan. I'm not doing it. Just make zero points. And I'm sure they won't rush him back unless it's worth it. I think that's one of the report when Wosha said today is like they're also going to look at where they are in standing and see if it's even worth it. Yeah.

Dang. He's going to get that shade treatment with the thunder shut him down. Like, like two months early. Yeah. They're going to tank for Wendy without the pick. That's tough. Yeah, not much else to say. It's unfortunate.

We'll see where it goes. We'll see if the Lakers have some spirit to pull out some unexpected wins. A lot of pain. But I think on the topic of pain, let's talk about the other L.A. team and their new point guard, who we've seen for two games with them now. Okay. Yeah. So Russell Westbrook's down with the Clippers. That was what we led with the last episode.

It's a big topic. We talked about what we thought it could be. in general we weren't optimistic Donovan was the most pessimistic I said I could see a world where it works But I'd also see a world where it fucking doesn't So I'm not getting my hopes up Yeah

Through two games How are y'all feeling about that? Do you have your opinion changed at all? Yeah I feel I feel like I was wrong Russ looks good He looks good and even the game Like the game that they lost against Sacramento That crazy 176-175 game

That wasn't his fault at all and yeah of course not yeah i just like listen there were a lot of lakers games where like the loss happens and you're like okay like that's that's westbrook's fault that one wasn't and you can see the signs of everything like of the the theory of westbrook and the things that you would want out of russell westbrook they actually came to fruition in that game so i can see the vision a little bit more after these first two games what do you think moe yeah i mean like last episode we were talking about how like things aren't black and white in the NBA and like black and white like if you're to plug and play this on 2K this shit will work a 10,000% you know exactly yeah but like life isn't 2K and like sometimes it just doesn't work like that but it has been working like that and I think like maybe we underestimate just how much good spacing that the clippers have and they literally have shooters like everywhere you look I think uh Zubak and Mason Plumley I don't know if we underestimated it

Because like I mean at least I mean maybe Donovan underestimated it As he owns up to you But like I think me and you said We saw a world where this happens right Like it wouldn't be the most shocking thing

In the world Yeah But you're 100% right Like We all knew in theory it could look like this But I think the Underestimated thing was People don't realize

Russell Westbrook Is like an entirely confident driven player It seems When you saw him on the Lakers It felt like he didn't know How to drive the basketball Because the no spacing And like I'm sure he was overthinking it

With everything he had to do With his role he would like dribble in place and like not go and it would just feel real hesitant like this guy just forgot how to play and that's why I was so infuriating most of the time seeing this now when he has all the space in the world to just go it feels like we're watching wizards

watching rockets Russell Westbrook where he's just loose he looks like he has his swagger back and people were saying like that shit feels so like oh he's swagger what does that mean but that's for real with him like he looks like a different player

he looks so loose so confident that everything else comes together that way yeah surprise surprise surprise surprise it's it's easier to play basketball when the entire organization doesn't want you out the out of the building yep yeah yeah and he wears a shed the sleeve yeah exactly and there's also way easier to play basketball when you have the best spacing that you've played with since what 2021 wait was no no it's just the rockets for sure yeah yeah yeah yeah and like you can see it too one thing for me is uh the lakers he was still like a playmaker this year off the bench

but it felt like he wasn't as good of a passer as he was and in his prime and it was like yeah one you can't fucking make layups obviously you can't shoot how are you not how are you a worst passer now yeah but i think it goes back to the confidence thing and playing loose because i feel like i'm seeing his passing back in these past few games he's cutting throwing it out to shooters hitting dimes for rollers like i feel like i'm watching elite russ passerback i feel like the passes are a lot easier because they're just so easy they're so much easier to read if the definitely you have so many people clogged around the place and you barely have any space to operate,

I feel like you have to get insanely creative, absurdly creative, and those are only for, like, the top three pastors in the NBA who have ultra NBA, like, vision. And I don't think Russ has ever had that. He just, like, has been the type to thrive in space. And even though, like, ironically enough,

his MVP season, like, he had the absolute worst spacing possible. He had Andre Roberson, Stephen Adams, then who was his power for i think it was jeremy grant probably at the time or something like that then victor le depot who was like not even all-star victorily depot that's like hambi p season was i think was it was demontas the bonus this spot that's what i was thinking that's what a bonus yeah i think it was stretch for subonis what a nasty god man yeah it was disgusting but you're right like it's so much easier for him now and you can feel it like um it's weird because it's also like hitting cutters and stuff that's like that should have been able to do to anthony davis

which he did to some extent not to say he was like incapable of playing making on the lakers but it just looks different you know what i mean yeah i think i think a big part of is and you hear a lot of like i guess like combo guards they say like they use their scoring to open up their passing right and so like if you're if you're driving if you're driving to the paint and everybody in the building knows you're not looking to score you're looking to pass they can anticipate those windows but now that that confidence is back and Russ actually feels like he can go in and score and drive into the lane with some type of authority that that creates a whole different dynamic now people actually have to risk sure that's what I'm saying like people have to

respect you to actually make layups now and now now you can you can you know have the have the dump off passes now you can kick out to the corners and stuff like that so it's like like as I said it's really just the confidence that we're seeing in Russ back and so like it's it's cool to see it because we've really just been hating on Russ for like the last year and a half because this hasn't been there. I mean, it's a little bit of both. But like. Yeah. It's a little bit of both. But like. Yeah. I'm some vitriol, but it's been true. Okay. Yeah. I'm not going to get like caught up on like Russ Ladder. But like yeah, he's just the confidence is back and he's looking better. So like it's cool to see. On one side, one thing that I want to say is like for the clippers, this was hell of

confusing of a move for them to make and I give them more respect now because it's starting to make more and more sense as to why they did this like of course paul jores like push for this shit to happen but like if anybody in the league had like nothing to lose it's the clippers because they have this and a noctious amount of depth they just got rid of reddy jackson and got eric gordon also bulls highland and so like that and so like if russ is doing crazy shit you lose almost to nothing. Yep. You don't miss him whatsoever.

Now, what are you going to say about that, Isaac? I think the clippers have too much depth, honestly. Yeah, I mean, I feel like they've been like that for a long time. On the list, it's ridiculous now. The first game, Bones Highland got a DMP CD because T. Tiley-Lew said he forgot about him. That's nasty. They have that many players.

He forgot about Bones Highland. Robert Covington isn't playing right now. Oh, my goodness. I'm playing right now. Yeah. The second game, Russ was cooking. He had 17 points, and he sat the entire last fourth quarter and second half to the third quarter

because they close to Eric Gordon so there's too many options almost they'll figure it out eventually it's not that it's going to be okay but there's like a glut of options that all deserve minutes and it's gonna be hard to figure out who to play on a given night

it's strange situation why he didn't play the other night or the fourth quarter or whatever it's gonna fucking likes Aaron Gordon on and also Bones Highland like that revenge game thing or whatever so yeah I was pretty cool to see

Eric Gordon put a lot of minutes and he was not making shots at all yeah he was not playing good I feel like he was just playing out of his role in my mind. I just see him trying to do a little bit too much. You know, he's a little bit too heavy for all that shit. It's not the Eric Gordon to pass. He's not like, you know, let that shit go, man.

Just stand over there and shoot three. So if I see more than four dribbles, yo asses out of here. Enough of that shit. God damn. Another wrestling to talk about is he's also, I feel like I've watched him do more offball movement and like screen setting and diving to the rim than he did it all in two years for the Lakers.

I saw one play where he set up. back screen in the corner where the person from the corner shooter cut behind him he said the screen for him to pin down and then his man went with the cutter so it lets him wide open for a cut to the rim wide open he never did that to the lakers he refuses that screens with the lakers why would you do why would you do it for somebody who doesn't care about you like that i'm not russ is saying i'm i'm strictly here because my contract says that i my contract says that i have 40 million dollars waiting for me so that's that's why i'm showing up that's the only reason why I'm not like you know why I'm not staying at home because you guys are

disrespecting me in the media every single day you brought me in here you don't want me you don't want me anymore so like again it feels nice to be wanted and Russell Westbrook is finally wanted again and you're going to be able to see all the all the you know good parts of his game again he also has like everything to prove right because like this is like his last chance he's on a minimum contract now like he had to come out and play great so like this or the Amazon warehouse to try his and do every small thing you need to do. Yeah, absolutely.

Yeah, good for him. Let's hope it keeps it up. There's always the downside, like, there's a honeymoon phase like he had when he first came a six-man last year, or not last year, early this season. So let's be cautiously optimistic going forward, but it seems to be a good start. Good start. Yeah. We're going to take a quick break from the pot and tell you guys about underdog fantasy

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shout to a quick no we got to talk about now what? What? This fucking man Damien Lillard dropped 71 points oh man I guess the poverty Houston Rockets so take it with a grain of salt if you're going to do that but 71 points you wanted Isaac

71 are you kidding me no I mean it's cool it was cool what it was cool it was cool what it was cool it was cool it was cool 71 was cool 71 It's not like it's not like it's nothing I haven't seen before It was the most of it was something you've never seen it twice in your last What do you mean that I haven't seen 71 points? I've seen I've seen it twice in the last two months

Like it's it's very it's very not at that clip I'm glad I'm very glad that like that dame has a moment like this and that they won again My biggest greatness all is that it came against the Rockets and the Rockets have given up 50 points to like four people this year They are yeah An abomination of a basketball team yeah their money laundering teams they're not a real basketball team. They're there for malicious purposes. It's awful. It really is like a disaster

down there in Houston. So that's the only thing. But it was fire though. Listen, Dane was cooking. Incredible. 41 in the first half is wild. Ridiculous. And just the and it was like a talk on Twitter. We're talking to the group chat a little bit about it that like just he needs so much respect

as one of the best shooters of all time because of his ridiculous range and just audacity as a shooter to pull from People were talking about How people were talking about that And saying how good it is for him And of course the Steph fans are like Steph does this too

But like The point is if you're in the conversation It's just you and Steph Curry You're in an elite conversation Yeah God And he's number two because step is one Duh whatever

It doesn't really matter Because no one in history The fucking NBA could ever do What Dame What Dame is doing right now Except for Steph My question You ask this first Mo

Where does dame rank in the all-time best shooters ever all-time best shooters ever he's top three top three yeah he's top three for sure top three behind step and clay uh i don't okay so step is definitely number one um and in my mind he is i don't know if he's interchangeable with clay thompson he might be just depends on the day whoa i wasn't expecting that okay yeah when i think of shooting there's they're shooting like there's certain type of shots that Damy Lur can take and make that Clay Thompson just he just does not have in his bag whatsoever that's not his shot difficulty range all that is it has to be

And there yeah and there's not a single shot in my mind that Clay Thompson can take that Damien Lurton can not take as well he can hit everything everything okay what about you Donovan where you have him ranked he's he might be like fifth or six at best that's what I was gonna say he's top seven he's top seven minimum he's not be not better he's not a Better shooter than Clay Thompson. Yeah, enough I go that for it. Clay's ridiculous. But I see your point.

It's at least, it's not crazy, but I wouldn't agree. But I think Lillard's pushing Mount Rushmore. Yeah, it depends on what you think of shooting as a whole in totality, you know? No, you're right. I see your argument. It's totally fair. Like, we need to credit off the dribble shooters more in these conversations. Because people just have like a bias towards people that shoot 45% from three.

Like the Ray Allen and Kyle Corvers, who are obviously amazing shooters too. Like, if you stack them with other people, it's fared to put people with lower percentages because they take extremely hard shots. So I get it. That's, that's my three. My three is I would have Steph, Clay, and Ray Allen, that's my three. And then we get into the conversation of, like, okay, is it Dame? Is it Reggie? Is it a whole bunch of other, like, you know, spot up shooters like that?

Yeah. But Dame's there. He's definitely pushing it because, and the same thing that you guys are saying is, The reason why Steph is number one is because he can do it off the dribble, right? He can create his own shots and keep doing all that. And like Mo was saying, Dame has that aspect to his game. Yeah. And so in terms of, like, guys with range, it's, it's just, it's just Steph and Dame.

Obviously, Seth is one, but like, I don't, yeah, okay. I don't think, I don't think it's crazy for Mo to say that. I'll take that back a little. I'll put a little bit more respect on Dames's name. Like, I think I think of shooting on every single level, bro, and like, even

the easiest shot on the entire NBA is the free throw. And just now, like, I just checked, I was like, oh, I wonder what Ray Allen's free throw percentage is compared to Dame Miller's. Dame Euler has a higher free throw percentage than Ray Allen. Who would have known? Not me.

Until I just did just do this shit just now. So, like, I just think about it on every single level. Is it like 90 to 89? It's 89. at 88 okay yeah makes sense yeah so that's crazy you said what that's crazy i would have thought that yeah exactly who's nice is like steve nash highest of all time like for like a volume something something something like like a 90 point something yeah i think steven as like 91%

or something ridiculous yeah man it's crazy but for me personally like i cannot put a shooter like ray allen above someone like dame miler i'm not gonna like fight tooth and nail for it or whatever but um like you value the off the dribble side of it yeah i value off the dribble a little bit more because i've seen so many like there's a reason why you there's so many like spot-up shooter types and like almost no deep shooter types there's only two types like that you could say through trium but i would say that's a reach right now because he's been fucking ass so um there's only too relax yeah there's only two compared to the joe harris is the jjjahrabics the utawada Anavi's like, the list goes on and on and on.

She's a Yida Wada Navi. What? Shout to Yuta, man. He's hooping. I love him. Come on, man. Oh, my God. Yeah, you're right.

It's crazy early. Yeah, I mean, not going to go down that road. Yeah, no. I just had to shout him out, man. Give Damon Flowers. He's him. Simple as that. He's going to be a weird player legacy-wise, but I'm glad to see him.

He has, of all the people that have no accomplishments, he has the most moments like this, that I'm glad to see him. good as flowers like remember that game he had in the bubble where he did something similar and some ballistic and like went like double overtime with the nuggets yeah like that was one the most memorable games I've ever seen yeah oh my goodness man yeah and I'm just happy I feel like people are more appreciative of seeing these top performances and I feel like no I actually don't think I actually don't think people are I think I think I think a lot of people I this year you've seen so many 50 point performances so many we've had two people score 70 I honestly feel like

honestly feel like people myself a little bit included are going to start getting desensitized a little bit numb to it because it's like the only people like before before devon booker scored 70 the biggest outburst that you had was cobi's 81 and since devon booker 70 he's he's dropped 70 you've had you've had uh so many people score like 60 de mitchin's they've scored 70 you have had you've had uh so many people score like 60 de mitchin they've scored 70 you have have um you have random people dropping 50 point you know 50 point nights and stuff like that i think i think it's getting a little water down yeah people say like like the perception of it you know what i'm saying it's like it's like it's like inflation it's literally what it is it's just inflation deep point shot is add more variety so people can hit 10 in the night and be a crazy games like for sure i also think it's easy to say that now when we've seen a ridiculous two setting point games in the year is crazy. Easy to say that now. Even with the pace of the game, like, we're not going to see that every year. Like, it's easy to be like, it's just the new normal.

It's fucking not. It's absolutely not. Yeah, exactly. The game was the same last year. It was just the pace was the same. The points per game were the same last year. We didn't see two 70s. Like, this is an anomaly that it's hard to think about in the moment because we're seeing so much scoring, but in a few years we'll look back and be like, what the hell? So if we see, so we see two 69 point games next year, what are you going to say? Well, okay, I'm not a, I'm not a jackass i'm gonna be like oh yeah that's crazy it wasn't 70 though like i'm not gonna do that

that's oh man we'll see at the end of day it's my how it was done dude hit 13 yeah it was an impressive ridiculous shot making 13 3s and he didn't need any overtime he did all that under 40 minutes i believe under 40 minutes

don't even did not hit 13 3s now i'm not like one to say like i know he's out here he's out he getting bucket like that time carmello anthony drop 50 Anyways back to the Q&A No citos Jump shots only

Oh my god Okay Let's get to this Q&A We've got to about a half hour Of current day topics Don't remember that Let's get to y'all's questions First up

Let's do a basketball one first First off Goon says Who would you rather build a team around Damien Lillard or Kyrie Irving This is not even a question So okay the question is obviously fucking Damien Lillard

let's assume kairi is of stable mindset and we're just talking about their games then what I'm still picking dame I'm not even tripping about the hell I'm picking dame okay me too let's make all things equal let's get the chemistry issues out of the way are you still dame for sure no but that's the thing you have to you have to have that stuff in whenever you're talking about Kyrie because from the moment he's left LeBron

from the moment he's left LeBron every team that he has gone to has had a tumultuous ending and they have blown up at the end of his tenure and he had the Celtics had a championship or at least the finals appearance ready made for them in 2019 with him Tatum Brown Horford Brad Stevens ascended right yeah Gordon Gordon Hayward coming back they had everything even Terry Roseira was still on the team and they couldn't make it back to the to the finals and they made to the conference finals without Kyrie because the chemistry was better without him. I'm taking Dame. He's a better leader. He's a better

player. Yeah. Plus, are you going to see Kyrie go ahead and give us dope-ass freestyle on a plane like Dame Miller? Hell no. He ain't going to do that shit. Are you kidding me? Yeah. Hot take. Dame's bars are a little bit overrated. Yeah. For some reason, I still like Kyrie

as a player, but I just can't like deny the history behind it. Like, for some reason, he's like, you've seen that Slim Reaper, Slim Reaper meme. wherever he goes is just like this nasty-ass foul stench that carries along behind him slaughters every single team the vibes are absolutely disgusting everywhere and you do not see that bro especially with someone like dameyler i would love for him to be the face of my franchise

you're telling me he would never want to leave me to even no matter how dirty i'd done him he loves me for me yeah he loves me for me yeah i'm keeping him for life we're the keeper for sure yeah it's obviously dame i threw it in there just because i knew dame was going to be a topic but yeah that was a good that was a good one though still sorry goon not a good question next question is from harrim king how did y'all meet a lot of people ask this question they wanted to hear like a lot of people wanted to hear like the backstory of how the pod came to be so i figure we take the time to do it now wow so essentially i met donna event in college, end of freshman year

into sophomore year. We met there. We both went to the University of Texas. So we made it to us like 2018, became friends. So we've been friends since then. Wait, how'd you guys become friends? I don't remember. It was... We did METRAs on Twitter and met through schools type of shit. It was, well,

so there was one day there was one day where I think Isaac was talking about basketball on the timeline and I had replied to him and then... So you don't know ball? It was... basically we probably

I think we got into like some some little like conversation and then I think a little bit after that there was a basketball game there was like a UT basketball game and Chauncey Billups was at the game and so I saw Isaac tweet about it at the game

so I DMed him I was like where's Chauncey at and and so like he ended up telling me and then going into the summer Isaac had invited me into a fantasy football league and so then we ended up doing that and then I guess like that just kind of spiraled into our friendship yeah what a beautiful bromance so we've known each other for like five years now and we went to college together we were

in journalism school did media stuff together we actually tried to like a podcast for a second like junior year of college like two episodes with a few of our other friends we've was terrible this is like the like third podcast that Isaac and I have back over yeah over like across like sports and music and culture we've probably done this like three or four times times. Yeah, we did that. Both graduated, and then last summer when we started, I had got the idea to essentially do a shorts-focused podcast.

So basically reverse engineering the whole podcast formula. So if you guys were watching from the start, we started off just posting shorts exclusively that looked like a podcast, but we really didn't record an actual episode. So me and Donovan started doing that. We did it for like two weeks. And then Mo came in the picture because me and Mo are co-workers who both work at house. of highlights. So I met Mo through that. He started working there the summer after I started and we met, immediately became cool because we know we're co-workers and we both realized we both

do sports YouTube, stuff like that. And after a few weeks of doing the pod, we had him come on as a guest. And like as soon as we came on as a guest, I was like, oh, we should have him do this whole time. Like the three of us, the chemistry is so much better. Like this is, I saw the vision immediately. The long short, short, convinced Moe to come on. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, he assaulted me, blew my phone up. Send me paragraph after paragraph, Bible scriptures. all that telling me to come in and for a little back story I was like I you know I got loyal to my name loyalty tied to my name kind of like deem you and I'm like I got a little podcast and it was struggling or whatever but like I'm like I like I like I like my

homies and I'm gonna stay with him and then you're not making this clear at all he had another podcast that he was on and he was worried about being on two podcasts yeah in the podcast that he was on wasn't he posting because it's off season they don't post in the off season so I was like bro who fucking cares do two podcasts what are you talking about yeah exactly He was like, yeah, go ahead and do podcasts. I'm like, I don't know if I'll have the time. I'm in my senior year of college. In the back of us, he absolutely had the time.

It's two hours a week. You know I did not have the time. And you were just like, I got to fucking regard. It's two hours a week. You can so do two podcasts. Hell, no, that sounds like hell, bro. Class, podcast, work? Hell no, I'm cool up with that.

Yeah, so convince Mo to join. And then we did the pod. We continued to do just shorts for like another two months. And eventually we built up by 25K subscribers. And we were like, let's start doing the actual pod. and now we're here 26 episodes later 26 episodes later and how many stuff do we have

115,000 god damn historic dude I guess we haven't told people that the full story but I imagine the people are going to ask us this for many episodes to come so maybe we'll repeat it in 25 episodes

but there's the origin story that's a tough that's a good question good question next question it's another basketball question Blaze says realistically what teams do you think will play in the Western Conference Finals

and Eastern Conference Finals and who will come out? Donovan, you go first. Who's going to make the Western Conference and Eastern Conference Finals? Western Conference Finals is going to be I have the standings right here. Let me just remind myself. Well, he's thinking,

it's going to be Nuggets versus Sons. I'll let you know now. And I want to say the Nuggets are going to come out as a Yokit Stan, but I think it's going to be the Sons. I think I have enough time to gel and adding KD into that is going to be unfuck with the bowl

and they're going to make the finals. It's such a seamless, smooth like butter fit. There's no riggedy or raggedy thing about that. Sure, the roster may not be as, like, deep as it used to be, but at the end of day, you got Kevin Duran. And then also you were able to save DeAndre Aiden and who knows what he's going to be able to give you

as a third, fourth pseudo option now. So definitely, definitely. Yeah, it's going to be the sense. I guess I get my other one too, what we're here. Yeah, I agree with that. The East is easy. Like Celtics versus Bucks is the easy choice.

I'm gonna go Bucks are coming out. I think the Bucks would have came out last year if Chris Millington was healthy. If things go well for them and they're healthy, Bucks versus Sons in the finals, I'm not gonna give a prediction for the winner because he didn't ask for that. Yeah, that's tough.

All right, I think it's gonna be, I think Nuggets Grizzlies. Nuggets Grizzlies, okay. I'm looking at it now. Just the way that the path is set up, I think, I think. Who's taking out the sun? I think Memphis does

Well actually Well I actually know if we were if they were to play right now Then it would be Nugget Suns in the second round And I think Denver wins And so that Both teams to take out the Suns you think Yes So I think so yes I think

I think Denver and Memphis in the Western Conference finals And then in the east Milwaukee Boston Milwaukee's gonna win Fairly easily they're going to win a title easily, come on. It's been the prophecy that has been decided since last year, and I told you all about it. You may be right.

It's law. But it's not going to be easy. It's law. It's not going to be easy. I can't believe you said the Memphis. Same thing. Bucks and Celtics definitely, like, without a doubt. I don't know.

If there's someone who genuinely trusts the Philadelphia 76ers, you know, I need to start doing, I need to like, start hanging out with that person more because his faith is outrageous. I do not trust James Harden. I do not trust Joelle and B who be falling all overplace 82 times a game. And I definitely especially don't trust like probably the most overrated coach in the entire or the history

of the NBA. Dot Rivers like whatsoever. Speak on it. Yeah. But hearing that you hearing that you have the Memphis Grizzlies going in that deep, trusting Dylan Brooks. Well, I mean it's just because it's just because of seeding.

and stuff like that. If everything happened, like, if the playoffs started today, Phoenix would end up playing the Clippers. And I think that, like, that would be a tough round for them. And they could potentially get knocked out in the first round. And it wouldn't shock me if this team that, like, and I know Katie is on his way back. But they're going to play, what, 19, 18 games together?

Like, it's going to take some time to jail, even as seamless as Kevin Durant, like, fits into basically every system. also is Chris Paul going to be healthy because he seems to get hurt every single year he won't be but they don't need him to be

that's a great that's a great part they'll live he might he might not be there and now you're going to be leaning on on debon book and Kevin Durant and Durant also can't stay healthy

so you have a lot of injury you have a lot of injury questions a questionable path for them I think Memphis may be able to take another step this year okay that's fair that's great that's great that you mentioned

seating this because that's something that I did not account for whatsoever we probably shouldn't honestly because there's so much can change in the next 20 games I'm just going to like ignore that and just think about the best teams man okay next question this one's for Donovan

sorry from the tank 5664 I'm nervous now this sounds targeted man it really does I feel like he asked it for you yeah should the Knicks explore dumping RJ's contract in order to make for a free agent.

I genuinely think if a star level player replaces Barrett, then the Knicks could really be a contender with Brunson Randall and whichever star player. So the question, part about the star player is little iffy because there's not really a star available. Yeah. But in general, is there going to hitch a point where they think they should dump RJ Barrett

and try to bring somebody else in, which really means trade him. Should they trade him for somebody else? They probably should. They probably should. I think up until this point, there's been there's been a little bit of improvement in rj every single year and you can kind of see signs of him taking steps forward that has not been there this year and there's been times

where he has been unplayable and there's and there's been times where i would much rather have you know quentin grimes on the floor i would much rather have a manual quickly out on the floor josh hart has come in and josh heart is the perfect role player playing that that that three position exactly, you know, that two, three position exactly what you would want along Brunson and Randall. So I think, yeah, potentially moving off of him and his huge contract has to be an option. After one year of the extension. He just hasn't, he just hasn't improved. And he and the consistency isn't there. And so if we go into next season and he doesn't get to where we thought he was going to be this year, yeah, he's going to have to be traded. The problem is,

That contract, if he has not improved in two years from it, is going to be one of the worst contracts in the league. And so I'm a little nervous about RJ's future as it pertains to like us, but it's something that the Knicks should 100% be exploring every day. Crazy. How far we've come. Yeah. I try to defend them as much as possible, but like it's gotten ugly in a lot of spurts this year. this is the first year I'm seeing Nick's fans finally admit that he sucks kind of like previous years it's always been like I've said it and there's always been pushback because there's been hope there's been there's been there's been a little bit again a little bit of improvement every single year and you can kind of see like especially with his shooting

you can like even if the percentages weren't great you can see like oh the hitch is gone from his shot it looks smoother he's getting into it in a much more comfortable way that hasn't really happened this year and those things haven't translated to like results so yeah it's tough it's tough out here very tough it's tough yeah i remember before this past season in like august i remember arguing with pierre from through the wire as a nix fan about um who would rather have tyrese max here r j barrett and just because i say him because he's like a no it's i feel like he's a quintessential nix fan with how you've used the players yeah at least rj at the time and he was like oh rj without a doubt damn would you at this point take rj over

Tyrese maxi still? I actually would have taken Tyrese maxi at the beginning of the year. I love, but you see why it was a conversation for Knicks fans, right? Yes, I do. I do. But I personally, I really, really like Tyrese Maxi. I think he's fantastic. But I can see why that conversation was being had. I remember arguing with, with you saying like, RJ has all-star potential. And I 100% believe that. And we just haven't- Chinese basketball league. We just haven't seen that growth from them. I don't blame y'all naked fans whatsoever because I feel like I fucking blame you I don't believe in an entitlement but if there's one thing that people in the NBA are entitled

to it's young players they're entitled to at least like three three and a half years they're entitled to hope yeah exactly hope you know what I'm saying because you need time to grow you know he's more polite to me I don't that you know that I don't think you're tiled the shit I think when guys suck yeah yeah right now barie smith Jr. sucks yeah Thank God you're not a gym, because if you put that mindset, you'd run a team to the ground. I have a question for you guys, okay? I think it's the opposite. I think I was going to hold on to RJ Bear and Payman Max.

I have a question for you guys. Okay, so over the last three years, what has been, like, by far your worst NBA take? Like, our worst take. Yeah, I'll tell you mine. I'll go first, okay. I wanted the Atlanta Hawks to go ahead and draft Killian Hayes. I thought he was going to be so special. I thought he was going to be left-handed Lonzo type shit, and I was.

I was like, yeah, I need this man next to Train Young, alleviate some fucking... Well, you were crazy for thinking that's a good favorite with Tray Young. Yeah. But I don't... You can't call it draft miss a bad take. Like, everybody has bad draft takes. Happens all the time.

I'm taking it. That was just a horrific take. Horrific take I had. Oh, mine from the start of this year, when I was screaming up and down that, that Yokic, like, there was absolutely no way that he was going to get... Oh, yeah. And now he's slated to get three straight MVPs.

So that's the biggest one in recent memory. I mean, I have like takes that, like, we're wrong, but I'm trying to think of, like, outright. Like, when you're wrong, you're wrong, like, that doesn't necessarily mean it's bad in practice. I'm trying to think of ones where I was like. Yeah, I'm trying to think one that was like, fuck no. Like, I thought the Grizzlies would be like to force you this year and fall back a little bit. They weren't. But it's not the worst take in the world.

You know what I mean? Yeah, exactly. Let me see. Over the last few years, you don't have nothing. No hot takes about. Another hot take that I had. I don't make bold takes like that. And back in 2018, I made a nasty

bold take saying that Anthony Dales is probably to be the greatest power for it ever. Slat me, kill me. Oh, my God. There's stuff where it's like, okay, like, yeah, there's stuff where it's like, okay, like, is this a hot take? And then there's other stuff where it's like,

okay, you're just talking. Like, Andy Davis's greatest power for whatever. That's just talking. Yeah. I think at the peak of Hardin's powers, I would have said, I think he's passing up or will pass up, Dwayne Wade.

and now I kind of my eyes are open a little bit to the playoff failures and I've kind of realized how like that is a big difference and now I'm gonna put weight above him I guess that's the hottest take ahead

is it like I was a big James Harden Stan so I was like it was so nasty to watch in the moment it was disgusting but I also don't think

that was insane like he was on that path and then he wasn't I think it was definitely a conversation it's something that was it was a conversation that was unavoidable for sure yeah

I guess I don't know That was probably You got a clean record Okay suppose you got a clean record Cool I'm wrong I'm wrong a good amount of time

Everybody is Oh yeah for sure But I just don't go out In a limb like that I don't make crazy takes Because I'm always like Patient I guess Yeah

So I just have bad takes Not horrendous Usually Gotcha Oh no I thought Ben Simmons Was gonna be the truth But then again He fell off

Because he got hurt So like That's not yeah That's not a terrible take What's why All right What's next What's next?

Yeah Okay next question is from la duck duck who has been begging and pleading for us to talk about tim duncan in the discord every fucking day this is me saying tim duncan's name tim duncan where do you rank tim duncan and coby bryan all time okay i'm i i think that i'm much higher on tim duncan than a lot of other people i have tim duncan fourth all time um crazy wow i i listen we have to put a lot of respect on tim duncan's name Kobe is anywhere on any given day can be as high as nine maybe maybe eight all lowest is probably

11 for me yeah yeah like nine eight yeah eight yeah eight through 11 for um for Kobe four for Tim I think I have yeah I have like Kobe at nine or so Tim seven six on the on a good day probably because i mean mj lebron kareem magic bird maybe shack or somebody like mj and mj and mj i do i mean lebron's one but i wasn't even trying to order it yes like i have tim duncan's in the realm with magic and bird maybe i put them a hair behind because i feel obligated to you know how it goes but like but that's

that's the thing like we don't have to like duncan has Duncan has longevity over them He has more rings over them He was a better He was a better defender Magic Johnson Huh?

I'm not going to hold AIDS Against Magic Johnson I'm Listen Tim Duncan at 37 At 37 Everybody For the last three years

Has been Lebrons 36 Lebrons 36 Tim Duncan at age 37 Was first team all defense And anchoring And anchoring like A championship level defense

In the finals Like we We have to 12 points per game Like he was he was LeBron's acting 30 like it's different Let LeBron Let LeBron be first team all defense this year

We would never hear the end of it And it's not and it's and it just doesn't happen For Tim Duncan and I'm saying like The guys that people put ahead of him Duncan has more than them The only thing that they don't have is MVP's But Duncan still has two MVPs So everyone DPOI how about that

So what are we talking about? Stupid as shit ever I can't believe number one Yeah that's great Yeah it's ridiculous Bro, that's crazy. I actually didn't know that until you just said that. Yeah, never one. But yeah, center of a dynasty for 20 years, five rings.

What about you, Mo? I don't like top 10 all time list because it just changes all the time. You're lame. Say a number. Just a lame-ass conversation I have, bro. Let's talk about the now. Let's talk about what can have 20 years. Okay, do you have Tim Duncan ranked above Kobe?

That's the question. Do I have Tim Duncan ranked above Kobe? Man, that's a tough question. I don't, I think they're pretty neck and neck. They're pretty neck and neck. I would say like, they're interchangeable between like four and like six that tight range for me personally. Okay. I don't want to see your top 10 list.

It would scare me. I'll probably have the best top 10 list in this bitch, to be honest. You will. Hell not. Next question. I can disrespect the dead, so we'll move on. Vengeance asks, who is your favorite basketball player growing up? Oh, I've, uh, Kobe is my favorite, like, athlete ever.

So Kobe, Kobe is my guy. Nice. What you, Mo? Uh, my favorite basketball player growing up, I'll have to be honest. Growing up was Paul George because, like, I was back in like 20, 12. Listen, listen, man, I'm being honest. I did not start watching football. I was seven years old.

I don't have that. He's Paul George. This is lame. Oh, my goodness. I got to be ass, man. I'm being honest. I'm not over here lying. Yeah, I'm being honest.

Paul George, I swear to God. No, yeah, I got a PT-13 jersey right here. You think I'm lying? Look at this. No, I don't think you're lying. That's why I'm laughing. Yeah, exactly, man. I'm, you know, I don't like when people be lying and be saying,

oh, yeah, my favorite player growing up was Charles Bucking. Motherfucker here are five years old when he was playing back. What are you talking about? Trey-in was like, oh, my favorite player is Steve Nash. What do you remember about Steve Nash? We're like the same age, basically, man? I'm being real, 2012, 2013, Paul George, and then it elevated to LeBron James. That's fair.

When I was like a little, little kid, I was a Lakers fan, but I was like a little kid. I wasn't really watching like that. For some reason, I liked Lamar Odom a lot when I was like seven. Yeah. That's not a little more, that's fair. But when I got like really basketball conscious around like 2010, like sixth grade, fifth grade, it was LeBron. Like I got into basketball through watching Sports Center when I became like sports aware. Yeah.

And that was when he went to the heat. when I was in sixth grade So my relationship with basketball Started with LeBron James So he's always in my favorite Yeah Then James Harden became my first Like non-lebron favorite player

In like 2017 or so So those always been my top two But it's this LeBron James Wait So a question Why are you a Laker saying You live in Houston You're one of your favorite

No that's me I live in Houston Oh well Donovan Houston Fuck it whatever My family's from LA I'm from LA Oh okay

So that's why you're a Lakers fan Yeah I move around around a lot. I live in Texas now, but I'm from LA. Okay. That's just for the people if they're wondering. Cool. Yeah, yeah. So I'm a Lakers fan. Yeah, a bunch of of a lot of a bunch of LeBron and Kobe kids over here. Wait, Donovan. They should know too. Why are you a Knicks fan? My dad is from New York and we used to go there a lot and I kind of just fell in love with like the city and stuff. He's a cosplayer. He wants to be from New York so bad. I was a very heavy face, but like I really wanted to. But like, yeah, that's, I mean, it's true when I was a kid. Like, I wanted to be from New York. And so. Put on the tins, one bootstrap at a time.

Yep. Nice. Next one. Matisse Thibel says, who do you think is the most overrated player in the current NBA? Who? Interesting. The most overrated. That's a, that's a, that's a, I don't like these super serious basketball questions because basketball's never that serious.

Who's the most overrated? Honestly, if I had to. But I had to pick one. Oh, it's Kyrie Irving. Wow. I honestly think that he's very properly rated right now. You're right, because you're right. Never mind, because people hate him.

So that's not true. Oh, it's fucking, okay, never do not do that. Go ahead. No, no, what were you going to do? It's Russell Westbrook. At this point, it weren't so far. Oh, man, you're proven to die at this point. Yeah, it can't be him anymore.

I was, I stopped myself. I can't be him anymore because now everybody hates him. For a long time was Russell Westbrook. Now it's not. Do you want to say Rudy O'Ber, Donovan? No, I actually don't But he went the other way though It's like

Can't be him Yeah I kind of think it's I kind of think it's I kind of think it's John Moran Yeah that's an easy pick right I think I think it's I think it's I really have like a love hate relationship with the grizzlies right now Because I enjoy their like their attitude and their trash talk and everything

And I enjoy seeing that side from Jha But they have not won anything And they haven't like taken those steps forward So I think I think it's Jha And I think early on I think, I think, but like, but early on in the season, whenever Jaron Jackson was out, they were, they were mid and they were struggling without him. And it's like, if you are going to be this franchise corner, this franchise cornerstone and you're going to be leading everything and, oh, I'm fine in the West, you have to be a little bit better than 500.

If you're going to say that, you need to come out and not go seven and eight against the West in your next 15 games. Like, it's a lot of, we know he's great. We all ranked him like number 10. And like, Jaws deserves a hype. Like, I see why it's easy to pick him because they get so much hype. I don't, but like, I don't know if there's anybody else who's overrated like that. Man. I don't think any top ten players overrated.

I think it's like a middle tier guy. Like, I think before, so this year I changed my mind a little bit. I thought before this year, Jalen Brown was a bit overrated. People talk about him like he's Paul George. And he's having a great scoring year this year. So I kind of see it now. But I think in general in the past he's been overrated. I don't know, man.

There's a little bit of Jimmy Butler overrated in this. I stand on that still Okay Okay People Lionize the fuck at Jimmy Butler And act like that's him every day They apply his peaks

To as if it's constant Oh I'm I'm actually tripping And I really don't mean To be like Malicious or like prodding I actually do think That Tray Young is a little bit more

Overeated than John Moran Yeah it is show you I was thinking that too My bad And I'm not even trying I'm not even trying to like Stop God

Is that his dad Oh, I don't know. I joke around on the Hawks a lot, but like, yeah, it's probably Trey. It's probably Trey. Yeah, it's got to be. Oh, there go. That's the answer. It's Ray Young. I really, I really don't know the answer to that question. I'm not going to agree that it's Trem because it's the down year. It's either Kyrie or Trey Young. Yeah, I really do not have an answer to that question whatsoever.

Honestly, it's probably, it's probably Kyrie. I feel like he's probably ready Yeah It's all right It's tough Let's a heavy question A lot of people think Kyrie Irving is better than Damien Lillard

I'll say that A substantial amount of people think that Still in 2020 Yeah You'd be surprised You'd be surprised There's two types of NBA fans And one of them really loves

Cairo Irving Gosh man One question is who is the biggest drafts deal In NBA history I feel like it's undeniably Nicole Yokish Like it's intense yes yeah just keep that short and sweet next one

hargan hose says that what player from any era in the past would you want to see today um I would want to see Michael Jordan that's easy answer non Jordan non Jordan non-cobie because those are like the easy answer I want to see Charles Barkley that's a good answer okay I yeah I think I think and I think an undersized power forward with this amount of space and and his ability to like go coast to coast and do all those things I think he would be be fine. What about you, Mo?

It looks nice. I would, I'd probably want to see, I have a lot of answers. One of my answers are Dominique Wilkins, just seeing him with the space. He was such an underwent. I feel like he'd be better in his era. I don't know.

I don't know about that. Him, and then there's an easy, like, oh, Dwayne Wade, yeah. There's a way way that I was going to say Alan Iverson as well. Fucking he will. I don't think Alan Isch me better in this era. I think he fits era well.

Really? That era promoted tough shot off the dribble shot makers. Yeah. And that's what he did. Like, I think he was a perfect fit for his era. Dwayne Wade,

Dway came 10 years too early. If you give Dwayne Wade one of the best first steps we've ever seen slashing to the rim, modern spacing, the shoes to kick out to and feasts at the rim

in space, Dway would have been ridiculous. Oh, I'd love to see Andre Carolinko in this bitch, man. What a deep cut. That would be, I agree.

Yeah. He was burping to the mic. I would love to see Lamar Odom as well in this era as well. Lovarum's a good pick Oh man Who's some of the good role player picks Hmm

People that were just a little bit Before their time Obviously Robin would be sick Who? Playing Dennis Rodman Oh yeah He'll be fired Rodman, cooge

Oh Scottie Pippen too He'll be fire Listen, let's just bring the 96 Bulls over We can have them here Who else Who's before their time Lucky Reggie Miller

Reggie Miller is a good answer Oh yeah for sure It's easy Lookie, I want to see Darren Williams in this era. I think... I guess. No, because like... That doesn't get me that excited.

He was nice, though. I feel like he fit his era. I don't know. No, I actually don't. I think in an era where it's much more acceptable for your point guard to have the entire offense, you know, like wrapped around you, I think Darren Williams would be really good in this era.

Okay, I can see that. Yeah, there's a lot of answers to this. Yeah, Tracy McGregory would have fit so. perfectly in this era I don't know what else like I don't know if he'd

at a minute people would hate on Trace and Grady in this era yeah for sure he would he would be like the modernate

Paul George literally in my mind in terms of hate and just like how probably be similar a hard and lots of scoring

yeah lots of not winning yeah exactly we have some more questions but maybe we'll say this for a part too eventually

I think we want one more let's get one more one more yeah one more for TikTok time I like

okay you like this I'm enjoying this Let me join this. Goon says, what is the one move you would have made during the trade deadline from any team, from any team's point of view? Oh, that's good. If I was a rockets, I would have traded OG and and Obie. I'll, wait, you said if you were the Rockets?

I mean, sorry, if I was the Raptors. I would have traded OG and a Novi. I was literally going to say the exact same thing. They just had too many bodies. Yeah, I was mainly going to pick on the fucking Toronto Raptors. If I was the Grizzlies, I would have gotten either OG or Kyle Kuzma Yeah Yeah, see, I was thinking that too, give them to the Grizzlies

Especially if they were trying to offer like fucking three first-on picks They were reported Yeah, I would have made I would have made a move to get another Another wing for them. Actually, no, if I was the Warriors, I would have got the OG and an OB trade done Like that was reported they were trying to work on the last minute OG and Wiggins as a wing duo has such a crazy high ceiling for a defense Yeah, absolutely.

with fucking Draymond behind you I can't even imagine that defense It's like mind blowing how amazing that would be to watch If I was the Portland Trailblazers I would aim for Odean and Ovi I don't know if they really tried for Kevin Nuran Obviously that'd be the better option No shit

But I would definitely try to lock down O'Dia on an Ovi Oh if I was the if I was the Nets I would have traded Kyrie somewhere else That doesn't bring back when not role players For a team that doesn't have Kevin Durant Oh yeah for sure I would have traded him somewhere else Other than Mavericks

not to even do a Lakers thing and be like, oh, give them to Lakers, but like anywhere else that is something better to offer than Spencer Dunwoody long term. Yeah, absolutely. That's an easy one. But you can't be mad at them because that was before the new Kevin Durant was going to request a trade. I kind of want to do something if I am the New Orleans Pelicans.

Like, remember earlier in the season? God damn, we're over an hour. I hate when we do this shit. But I have to say this. Remember earlier in the season we were talking about how the New Orleans Pelicans have an issue where they have too many cooks in the kitchen and shit like that just have too many players who do a little bit too much of the same thing it they don't have what they really need

and now like Zion is out brain a brain in here he's back and he's cooking out absolutely but they still fucking suck so there's something going on there I don't know what type of change it looks like there's there might be a little bit of coaching issues on on top of that Cidia McCollum he's really bad at defense of course no shock so yeah there something needs to be changed something

but then again maybe the changes hope down gets healthy because the town was healthy they were fucking great so can't be too mad at it All right That's the end of my question list It is time for TikTok time Let's go Let's get into it

I'm fucking sleepy Let's put some energy on Hey talks Tic talks All right As always you guys know We start with the draft When nothing is changing

We're doing a draft again today This time we're going to do a draft With number one picks In NBA history I got my list pulled up Oh shit man I didn't do list of time I'm going off the dome

I'm ready to go so last time i went third so i go second who went second last time i thought i went first last time oh no i went first last one was the lakers one right yeah yeah okay so i went first oh i go third okay so it's mo donovan me oh nice okay cool so let's drive NBA rosters wait but i let's drive NBA lineups with only number one overall picks that's that number one overall picks doesn't flow right

first overall let's draft NBA round let's drop NBA lineups with only number one picks or draft picks I should say let's draft mix

let's drafts with only number one draft picks nice cool all right so I go first who's after me me Donovan

one two three cool all right so let's wrap this shit let me knock hers all right let's wrap it up I got LeBron obviously okay it's too easy

all right I will take Magic Johnson okay that's a good pick I'm gonna start with Tim Duncan's number one right

yeah I'm gonna go a little unorthodox give me Hakeem Elijahwan and Tim Duncan give me the front court that's good

that's good wow all right I will take Shaq damn Magic and Shaq it's interesting y'all are

destroying me right now Holy shit. You have LaRajé, what do you mean? Yeah. All right. Who do you have, Isaac? I have Tim Duncan and Hakeem. Oh, my God, you have Tim Duncan.

Okay. What's Kareem number one? Yes. Okay, so give me Kareem. Okay. Okay. And then also. Yeah, give me Kareem and I guess

Give me David Robinson Oh, that's a good pick Yeah All right That was a long thought process I need some twin towers here You know what Let me let me go away from what I usually do

Give me Anthony Davis Woo Okay That's a good thing That's nice Good job You know there's sneakily not a lot of wings available Yeah, exactly

I didn't even notice I never notice this So give me James Worthy For my three Okay Nice Because there's like no small forwards And then

Give me Alan Iverson For my two guards Hang it Oh Alan Iverson was number one Damn That was my next pick Okay now I have to Have to audible

I have no shooting But my fucking talent Is off the fucking charts I need Hmm You know what, give me Give me Kyrie Irving at my two Damn, I was hoping you fell to

Damn, yo, y'all are Give me Kyrie at the two Yo, who is Leroux Martin? Who is that guy? Who? He was in 1972 for jumping. Are you serious? I thought that was a Discord name.

Oh my God. I thought that was one of them Discord boys. Leru Martin. That was crazy. Damn. Dang, y'all are cooking right now Y'all are absolutely cooking right now Okay, so list y'all teams right now

So I don't like pick one of your guys again All right, so I have magic Kyrie, Anthony Davis, and Shaq Oh my God, Donovan You do it! I'm so proud of you. Iverson, James Worthy, Tim Duncan, and Hakima Elijah on Listen, if we're playing 2000s basketball, Isaac squad is disgusting.

He got it. Yeah. My team is weird. All right. There's like no shooters. I got LeBron, David Robinson. That's the team suitors for a 2K simulations. Damn.

I have like, this is so ugly, dude. This is so nasty. This is a raggedy-ass team. But can I? pick wemby no okay uh man bro just take anthony bennett and let's keep it moving anthony bennett is gross dude listen if you want some shooters andrea barniani is still out there that's tough man okay um so give me i'm gonna go ahead and take Damn, I already got two bigs.

Come on. I know, damn it is... You always do this. I know, because I'm trying to win, and I keep on fucking losing somehow. You have 10 seconds, so you get Michael Oluacandi. Okay, give me... Oh, who? Who?

Give me John Wall. Give me John Wall. Whatever. Give me John Wall. I need a point. That's crazy. I'm going to pick who you should have paid. Give me MVP Derek Rose.

Time out. It's not your turn, though. It's not your turn. Oh, my God. Yeah, he fumbled. He fumbled. Too excited. There you go.

I'm not going to do you. I'm not going to... No, do it, Donovan. What do you mean? Show no mercy. I need a three and I'm trying to win. Give me Andrew Wiggins. Oh, my God.

Say it again. Because I'm not going to put it that way because I'm not going to include the part of me. Listen, I need a three and I need to win. Give me Andrew Wiggins. You nitwit! Oh, my God. Damn. Listen, I am so glad Mohammed folded.

I see your government name. I'm so glad Mo folded. I'm going to take who you should have taken. Give me MVP Derek Rose. This man. lost another draft. You're a fool. He's a generational tanker.

Maybe you're not saying for me, man. Okay. Fuck, bro. That's so nasty. That's so, so nasty. All right. Let's list our final teams. I have Magic Johnson.

I have Magic Johnson, Kyrie Irving, Andrew Wiggins, Anthony Davis, and Shaq. Jesus. Your team fits the best. You have shooting. I have no shooting at all. I have Derek Rose, Alan Iverson, James Worthy, Tim Duncan, Akeem.

Wait, did I make my last big already? Yeah. I don't think I did I? I have LeBron, Jabbar, David Robinson, and John Wall. No, you have one more. No, you. Who was it? Who was it?

I don't remember. Did you, did you not do the snake? No He fucked up Okay I'll pick somebody else now To say we'll just solve it inserted in there I don't think I did the snake I think you guys jumped ahead of me

So Because you took a million years to make a pick I'll just edit in there Make your other pick Yeah just to end this shit I'm going to select You need two guards Pick Anthony Edwards

No I'm picking Kate Cunningham I need shooting Okay well say it Yeah, I'm picking, give me Kate Cunningham. Future All-Star. Okay. I think I very clearly won that. Oh, for you, sweet.

I think the comments are going to say I want it because I have the most collection of names. But your team fits way better. Yeah, your team sweeps, Donovan. I got the fan favorites. Damn. All right, now we're going to do something we've been doing for the past few weeks.

We're going to do a tier list. We've been going to do every position. All we have left is the centers. Let's get into it. So let's put these NBA centers into it Let's put these NBA centers into a tier list First off I think we'd say Yokeech and B or S tier right

S tier Yeah, no doubt, no question And B's in there too right? Obviously Yonkis is the number one center Cool, thought so Where are we putting DeAndre Aten? DeAndre Aten I'll put him into B tier

B, yeah, yeah I want to put him C but he's like Just because of the disappointment but he's a B tier Yeah, and he's got to be B. It's like he's at the quintessential B center. Yeah, 100%. Where are we putting Carl Anthony Towns?

He's better than Kat still. A. He's better than A, yeah. I don't want to generous for Kat. I don't want to give him A. I don't want to do that. But like he's better than the B guys. Like he's in between.

He probably deserves A, but just barely. Y'all need to give Kat more respect. He's definitely A. Why? I think people should in general give Kat less respect. It feels like we haven't seen him playing a while. now and it just seems like his value to the comment. Okay, fine.

We can... I remember what it was like watching play six months ago. We can give him a. I don't really care. I don't really care. We can give him a. Okay, he's A. What about Subonis? Is Sabonis as good as Cat?

Yes. So bonus A tier? Yes. That sounds so weird to say. I think he deserves it. Let's give some bonus. Let's give him all the respect. Sure.

Thanks. What about Rudy Gobert? If Cat is a tier, so is Rudy Gober This season This year He's been He's been

Last show at a But he's been off this year I think Rue Ruehbert has to be B at best Man y'all too nice I'll get that boy at C Well that's overreaction

He's still been a good defender He's a slow start You think he's in the same tier As Aiton? Yeah I mean He's better than Aton But I think he has to proves

You don't think Rudy Bear's better than Johnra Aton You are overreacting You need to watch more games Of the typical He's back to be normal Did y'all see how this man jumped out of his chair.

He's about to get ready to assault me. This is why this podcast is not done in person. Relax. He's a three-time defense player of the year for a reason. Oh, man. He's beat here. Okay, cool. All right, fine.

Bam out of bio. A tier. A-tier? Yeah, easy. Easy. I'm with that. He's better than this bonus. Yes.

Yes. Is better than cat? Easily. Damn. Easily better than cat. What are we talking about? Wait free to say that. What are we talking about?

I agree. I agree. I just wanted to hear somebody say it. Man, I don't know about that one. What? I ought to think about it. I got to think about it. What? What's there to think about? I got to think about it. Respect it, man. Respect it. No. No. Bam. Bam is one of the best defenders in the league. His offense has taken another step to where he's a 20 and 10 guy.

20 and 10 from Kat and defensive player of the year level defense. That's elite. Outside of MVP, Yolkits and Mb, he's A-tier. He might be the third best center in the league. I think he is. Man, that's tough. Bet, let's give it to him. Let's go.

Respect, bam. Yeah, A-tier. Okay. That's a tier list. We have a lot of these to fly through, so I'm going to be going with this quickness. We're going to do like 20 questions, but we're going to change it up this time. Instead of a number of questions, we're going to do time. So you're going to have a minute to guess this player.

Okay. So I'll refer to something This is good because we take a long time Once you start getting into like 17, 18 Yeah, I know, I'm like damn It's bad radio Thanks Right

You have one minute to guess the NBA player I'm thinking of Let's do it Starts Okay, we just ask as many questions as possible Yep, go Okay Is his primary team?

Yeah, not an all-star It's his primary team In the Eastern Conference He's in the East now Okay, current player Yes, current player Is he light skin? yes technically

he's not light skin but he was drafted after 2010 he wasn't drafted wasn't drafted ah who is this is he a point guard he has a point guard

kind of a combo guard but we'll give him point oh he's in the east Donovan who is this I can't think I can't think God damn we got I was digging can he shoot

not really is this dare It's not Derek Rose. He was the number one pick, fan. Damn, damn, damn. We're folding. I'm not good under pressure.

Is it Malcolm Brogman? Not Malcolm Brogman. Damn. He was... I don't know. Yeah. Folding. Ferd Van Bleet.

Not Fred Van Bleet. That was a good guest, Donovan. It's Alex Caruso. That? Light skin. I would have never guessed that. I said no. He's fair.

I was like, I was like, he's not light skin. He's like, though. Yeah. man I don't understand how much I hate Isaac Isaac in these technicalities no I try to make it

him I was like no he's not light skin but like he's not trying to make a clear that he's fair of skin man that's tough should have asked for the race all good alright boy you do one else you do one too

let's do a few you're funny you don't do another one yeah you pick a name all right cool I'm gonna go ahead and pick a name And hold on, um, you can't play him on the spot for shit.

Are you already? No, no, are you already? Yeah, we're ready. All right, go. Well, you got, you got to say the hook. Oh, shit. He said, next person, next person. You have one minute to guess his NBA player.

All right, cool, yeah. I don't have hooks built into my head. All right, you got one, you got one minute to guess the NBA player. Just look at us and look at the camera. Did I not look at you? You got one minute to guess the NBA player. He was a favorite. Y'all got one minute to get the NBA player.

Okay. Time starts. Now, is he in the Eastern Conference? Yes. Is he black? Yes. He's still playing? Yes.

Was he drafted after 2010? Yes. Draft for 2010. Is he a point guard? Yes. Was he drafted after 2015? Yes. Is he a starter?

Yes. Is he an all-star? No. Not an all-star. lamello ball oh no he's an all-star fuck no Darry Scarlane's an all-star Can he shoot? Take that for what you owe

Is he a good defender? Markle Fultz Markle Fultz Yeah damn what the fuck Let's fucking go Yeah Yeah Like that

That's a good guess Good guess, good guess I was easy I didn't have you in hell Like fucking Alex Caruso Are you gonna do one done this is fun Yeah all right let me let me think of somebody um all right let me pull up that let me pull up their page so i know

exactly their stats this is funny do one minute someone's more difficult than 20 questions yeah exactly we got time to think about elite questions okay this is funny one minute such a crazy time experience are you ready yeah all right

say that you're good yeah all right you have one minute to get this NBA player okay three

look at the time stamp on your camera to keep track three two one go is it a current player

yes okay is he a center no is he in the western conference no He's in the east.

Is he a point guard? No. Does he wear a shooting sleeve? More combo. Combo guard. Do you ask for a shooting sleep in a minute? Is he a starter? I can't remember.

I can't remember it. I honestly can't remember. Are you telling us? Sorry. Yes. The Carislevert. Yes, he says. No.

Does he have braids? He's a starter. Yes. He has braids? Yes. In the Eastern Conference, he's a shooting guard. Is it Drew Holiday? No.

You know he's a starter. He's braids. He has a starter. He has a braids, and he's a starter, Isaac? Yeah. Oh, okay. He has braids, he's a starter. Jordan Clarkson.

No. No, he's in the West. Oh, damn, my mind is blanking right now. Oh, he's a starter in the, is a combo, Terry Rozier? No, he doesn't have braids. No. Ah, damn! Fuck, Jimmy Butler.

Time, time, time. Damn. I'm, I'm an idiot. I'm such an idiot. I could not remember. remember that he was actually a bench player so we're gonna we're gonna run this back we're gonna we're gonna run this back and you guys are gonna you guys are gonna laugh at me whenever i do this but okay a different player pick a different player who is it

Josh Hart oh my gosh has braids yeah he does he does he does damn let's move on to someone else we have enough of these cut that that's funny don't post that podcast exclusive facts nice thing we're going to do we're going to guess NBA players but their 2K ratings Donovan I think you had the list for us He's going to have us pick which player Do we think has a higher rating

Yeah All right for me Are good? Yep All right Yeah Which NBA player do you think has a higher 2K rating

Oh okay Okay okay All right McKell Bridges Or Rudy Gobert McHau My God I'm gonna guess

Rudy Gober is like an 83 Is Bridges like an 84 now he's like an 85 i think he should be i don't i don't know what's let's go bridges if 2k doing their routine updates then he then it's definitely mickle bridges let's go bridges it is mckell bridges mckell bridges is in 85 rudie gober is in 84 damn i say 85 i'll play the game shit good guess good guess all right james hardin or devon booker that's i feel it's got to be devon booker right but it has to be devon booker yeah but james

Hartons been good lately maybe they put him back up no it's yeah he has been good but yeah i'm gonna guess james hardens like a 90 and devon booker is like a 92 i think booker yeah it has to be down what you guys are going yeah yeah two for two devon devon debon burger devon burger is a 91 james hardin is a 90 i was on the fucking wow okay i don't think he's that much better than devon burger that's interesting all right de aaron fox or an yeah time out dearen fox or anthony edwards As much as it pains me to say, I think it's probably going to be D. Aaron Fox is a higher rating. But I don't know, actually, because people be on Ant to meet and no one's really a second. Yeah, people fucking love Anthony Edwards.

I'm going to go Anthony Edwards is like an 88 and D. Aaron's like an 86. Oh. Maybe he's 87. I'm going to go Anthony Edwards by a little bit. I'm going to disagree with you. I'm going to say De Aaron Fox. Hopefully they give that man, them respect. Hopefully they give the Kings that respect.

Is De Aaron Fox. Oh, damn. The Aaron Fox is an 88, Anthony Edwards. Edwards is an 87 wow okay that's fair I think I'd rather have Anthony Edwards but I get it yeah all right um all right last two clutch player the year you're dissing on the right Isaac that's crazy true Fred Van Bleet or DiAngelo Russell that's I fucking hope is Fred van Vleet I'm gonna go Fred I think it's gonna be De Anzo Russell because Fred started off the season stupid rough Fred is better than the answer Russell I'll throw up but look at counting sets it's

2K. I'm going to throw up. I'm telling you. If it's not Fred Van Fleet, I'm going to. Listen, it's very close. It's very close. But Fred Van Bleet is better in 2K. Fred Van Bleet. I didn't want to throw up this food. Wow. Van is in 84. DeAngelo Russell is in 83. Wow. Okay. Makes sense. All right. Okay. Last one. We're going star hunting on this one. Joelle and Bede or Kevin Durant? I'm gonna say Katie he's a wing

Katie he can do more Why do I feel like they're tired Are you gonna hit the same rating Are any of these ties? No No I think it's a tie I think it's Katie

I think it's Katie What do I feel like Jewel and B's like a 97 I think Katie I don't even know It's probably Katie It's probably Katie by one It speaks sense

You tricked yourself It is Joelle and Bede I knew it Is he 97? Joelle Embed is a 97. I knew it. Kevin Durant is a 96. That's what I thought, too.

I should have stuck with it. I'm a fucking coward. Yeah, you let me talk you out of it. It's crazy. And that's all. Nice. That's a good TikTok. All right.

What do we got left? Oh, this is going to be fun. This is going to be a long episode, man. Did you just say something? I couldn't hear you. No, we're good. The next thing we're going to do is I'm going to list some NBA teams, and we have to pick their all-time starting five.

Okay Like it How should I hook this I'm a list of some NBA teams I'm a list of NBA teams And we got to name their all-time starting five Let's do Lakers Okay

So we have magic at the one Obviously Kobe at the two Yeah Lebron at the three Yep easy And then Karim at the four Are we gonna Let's not do two centers

That's not really fair Yeah okay So an actual power forward power forward is it the power for is kind of hard i mean is it anthony davis it's it's it's a him or powysol yeah it's one of those two i mean 80's better right like yeah but where are we doing just like best players are like better lakers or you tell me i think pow is a better laker but i don't know if is he definitely is he definitely yeah he definitely is he's but ad is so much better of a player

like it's i feel we gotta put 80 there that's tough he's okay fine he's the better player so we'll put ad at the four yeah but it can be poggisal you can't go wrong in the way we'll put 80 at the four and then we'll put shack or kareem at the five shack or kareem who we're putting but you have to go kareem right yeah let's put kareem yeah we got to be cream okay cool that's probably the best starting five you can have on any of these lists Magic Kobe LeBron AD Corrine

Yeah AD spots feels a little weird But just not a lot of good options there That's crazy Okay Damn this question will be horrendous For a team like The Charlotte Hornets

Why just wouldn't fucking do them Man Next up The Warriors Okay Obviously Steph Is it Steph Clay KD

D center and then for the next spot do we go iggy or rick berry wait no wait wait why would draymond not be the four are we gonna put jremont a four yeah i think dream on is four okay so draymond's the four uh-huh and then will is the five yeah yeah that's is that simple oh i forgot well's the five you're right yeah i forgot i forget will yeah so the 2017 warriors and then wills well yeah that easy bro so easy what a fan what a franchise all time discussing on 2k okay the Miami Heat okay well this is gonna be who's a guard who's a who's a PG so obviously they have Dwayne Wade at the two Jimmy Butler

is a three oh no no it has to be LeBron LeBron LeBron's the three Chris Bosch at the four Alonzo morning at the five I think Alon's a morning a check but like nah not sack okay fine then then we can put a longer wait but are we doing like i don't know actually man that's tough this is a debate for real shack won a title with him yeah shack did win a title i can't i can't disregard that whatsoever we'll give them shack at five point guard is it gary peyton it's either no they haven't it's either gary peyton jason williams um or mario chalmers like they haven't had a great list i was waiting for him They haven't had a great line of point guards.

Oh, damn. We'll go Gary Payton then. Who was our point guard that made the finals for years ago? Fucking Goran Drogic? Yeah, it was Drogic. It's not good. Listen, Drogh is better than Mario Chalmers. I'm telling you, it's Gary Payton.

How many years of Gary Payton play? Let's do, let's do Gary, God damn it. Like one or two? I don't think he played that many. Wasn't he watching the heat too? He made some critical place He contributed Listen Mario Chalmers won two titles

I'm not putting Mario in any list like this brook stop Listen the Mario Chalmers Erasure is crazy Gary played and put the last two years of his career They're averaging seven points and five points for game Oh my gosh You're so nasty for that Donovan He won a championship

I don't care He won a ring Damn, who's their point guard, man It's Gary Payton It's not Gary Payton I'm putting Mario Chalmers Report for Gary Payton What?

My goodness Fine, let's do it There's seven points a game Let's do it Mario Chalmers Let's go Mario Chalmers The all-time point guard For the Miami Heat

Let's go Alaska zone Okay next one The Boston Celtics Okay so Point guard Are we going Bob Coosie? No

I feel like he asked too, it's Bob Coosie. Yeah, Bob. Bob Coosie, is Raylan in there? He's not my point guard. No, Ray Allen's not in there. Yeah, he's not. Yeah.

So, are we, what position you put Larry Bird at? Three. Three. So we can't put Jason Tatum? Damn. No. So Larry Bird of three, Kevin Garnet at the four. Yes.

But Russell counts is five, right? Yeah, definitely. Okay. So who's in that two spot? Ray Allen. Is Havelicek a two? guys you can have one you can't have both

you can't have Cousy and Havlicek pick one damn I'm not putting both of them in the line of a white quota why put put Havlicek at the two give me Rondo at the point guard I'd rather have Bob Cousie on there

than Bavichet I don't know man that's tough I'm not we are not putting both of them okay well Rial is not it's not Rial and somebody else Is Rayleigh Allen even better than Jalen Brown?

All right, come on now. For Celtics Ray Allen. No, even Celtics, Ray Allen, yeah. Oh, man, what type of question is that? How twisted do you have to be to ask that question like that? Yeah, I know, I know. I'm just being a contrarian. I'm just kidding.

I'm noted Jaylen Brown Hater, apparently. Yeah. Okay, we can go Ray Allen, then. All right, cool. I feel there's probably somebody we're forgetting, though. It's somebody else in, like, the 60s errors. Like, there's Casey Jones, they're Sam Jones. I'm not that familiar with their game.

Yeah, I mean, either. I don't know anything like Casey Jones. And honestly, I honestly want to put Havlichick. I mean, yeah, I honestly want to put Havlichick there because from everything that I've seen of Kuzzi, it makes me actively dislike him. So I'd rather us put Havlicek at the two so we can get Kuzi out of there. Nope. Damn.

This is the anti-Koozy pod. Okay. Okay, the Dallas Mavericks We're Coozy Truthers That's what we are The Dallas Mavericks The Dallas Mavericks Luca has to be there

Okay, Luca's a point guard Okay Too obvious Is Luca and Dirk The position is make it hard Like Jason Kitt should be on there But he's not gonna be Okay so

Obviously Dirk's at the four Yeah Is Tyson Tanner the 5 They'll rock Yeah probably Big Orook With Jason Terry at the 2 Oh that's so ugly

Jason Terry It can't be Jason Terry All right Jason Terry at the two Michael Finley at the 3 Dirk at the 4 Damn Jerry Stackhouse

Rolando Blackman Mark Aguirre I think Mark Guire Was nice for the time I forgot he played for them Yeah we'll go Mark at the 3 then Okay

I'm not sure Jason I'm not sure Jason Terry's a two Oh wait Time out Your boy Sean Marion played for the Mavericks Yeah but we're putting Sean Marion with Mark McGuire

I'm not going to I'm not going to fucking include this so nobody wants to hear about Mark McGuire on TikTok Ha ha Okay, what does do those for And Jason Terry LeBron's son

Yeah, that Jason Terry Oh my God, that's so nasty That man got dunked on Into oblivion Next thing we got We have this Your thing Mo Who is the best player

In each given year Yep Y'all ready Yep Yes sir Hit this hook All right. I'm going to give y'all a year, and I want you to tell me who was, hold on.

I'm going to give y'all a season. Don't look at the camera. Don't look at the camera. Look at this. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, that's weird about that. I'm going to give you all a season and I want y'all to tell me who was the best player.

Hold on. Who is the best NBA player in this year? Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to give you all a season. I'm going to give you all season. I'm going to say, who was the best NBA player in this year? What did you say?

Just say, who was the best NBA player in this season? Yeah, I can just keep that simple. Who was the best NBA player in this season? You ready? Yeah. All right. All right. This year. Who is it?

Well, this year, it's Janus. Well, no. Wait, are we saying like the best player, like the person who has the best season? No, who's the best player alive? Oh, okay. Right now. Best player live is Janus. Okay.

Cool. Yoke has a claim, but it's Janus. Wow. Okay. Cool. All right. So, Janus, easy, cool. Now let's backtrack.

What about the 2016 season? LeBron. Oh, that's the year when Curry was insane. Yeah. It was still LeBron. Like, Curry had one of the best seasons of all time, but we all know LeBron was the best player. LeBron James.

Okay. Okay. That's interesting. All right. What about the 2013-14 season? Oh, that's still LeBron James. You're going to rattle off most of his decades. It's going to be LeBron James.

Like, come on. Yeah, exactly. Most of the decades have been Lebron James. All right, so how about... He's going to say, 1982. No, I ain't going to say that. I ain't going to say that. I ain't going to say that.

All right. What about 2019? You're not going to believe this? LeBron. Woo. Really? What would you say? Well?

I'm just... 2019, I would say... Do I want to say Kauai? I don't know. He had a nasty year. he had a nasty playoff run LeBron had an injury riddled season sucks He had always done a bad team

But he was still LeBron He hadn't slowed down at all What team was LeBron on that year Was he on the league? It was the first year of the Lakers Where he had all the kids around him And he got hurt Yeah he was first year of the Lakers

We'll say Kau We'll say Kauai Sure I guess But LeBron was just as good as he was in 2018 Brought a country A championship A perennial Choker Brought them out of

Out of the dust? Yeah. Left the next season after that, I ain't going to lie, man. That season was gas. I'm going to have to say, quiet for that year. I'll say, Hawaii. That year was different. I'll give him something.

Just the aura of that year was completely different. All right. True, true. All right. You're ready, the next one? Yep. Yep. All right, 2007.

Oh, that's Kobe. That's Kobe. So this is the argument for this, it could be the year LeBron ticket from Kobe for the first time? No. No, not, not 2007. Oh. 07 Kobe was still pretty crazy It's probably LeBron

But we'll give Kobe some credit Damn Why do you say probably LeBron Because LeBron had already Kind of ascended at that point LeBron was LeBron Uh huh Like

Come on He was not Kobe at that point though Like he just Like he That if you want to say Going into 08 Maybe Right because

Because he made the finals And it wasn't Kobe I don't Well listen Kobe I made it Five years prior You know what I'm saying I'm just playing I don't do that

fucking Rams damn all right yeah those are those are only ones that were slightly debatable

so I got alright cool all right banger let's do it no I'm gonna be on vacation

in a couple weeks so I need to bank some TikToks let's talk one more draft before we get out of here okay let's do it

let's do it let's get a long episode let's do let's drive NBA lineups Do you want to do the high IQ draft I'm trying to get the highest IQ possible players Highest IQ? Now let's do

Okay I got you Now let's drive NBA lineups With players with the deepest bags Perfect There you go Oh I got the I got the first pick in this one Yep I got a second Damn I got last

Fuck y'all Okay I with my first pick I'm going Mr. Hezzie tween-tween. I'm going Kevin Durant with my first overall pick. Oh, okay. I'm in a force position. You're not going to find something to the better bag at the three, so I get it.

I'm going to go Kyrie Irving at the one. Okay, okay. Easy pick. That's nice. Okay. I'm going to go ahead and pick. Give me Steph Curry, underrated bag. For sure.

And also. Paul George definition That's a horrible pick for this point of the draft No, it's not Are you kidding me? No, it is not I'm telling me about What do you tell me? I promise you

I would have not picked Paul George Is this all time? He just said Alan Iverson Obviously it's all time What the f Okay They're always all time I got her

We got it You're insane I'm picking Alan Iverson Whatever And who's next And who else are you next Donovan Oh you're second I forgot

Okay cool All right So I got Kevin Durant Okay Give me Hmm Who do I need to pick Who do I need to pick

Give me James Hardin Oh that's a great pick Damn yeah And Hmm I'm trying to I'm trying to think about People who got the bags

Like that I need to go get A center that has a bag We have to go Hakeem Olajuwon Damn, I was gonna pick him next We have to go Hakeem Olajuwon Oh, that sucks

Dream shaking people out of their shoes Yeah Damn I was about to pick him Yeah, that's nice That is unfortunate Hmm Hakeem Damn

All right, well Since you stole my pick Give me Tracy McGrady Oh, okay Nice, cool uh simply for all right that's cool you got team mac i'm going to go ahead and select joel and bead for my center that's a good pick i hope he fell to me yeah exactly i just have to yeah exactly i just have to so i got joel and bead paul george step curry it's a nice team yeah uh wait so yeah yeah and then pick one more

yeah so i got one more pick and join me yeah i need two and i could use them four um so when it comes to four in bags who comes to mind or when it comes to two in bags who comes to mine you know what this is strictly a bag um okay i almost fumbled this draft life live on camera right so i need a four with a bag this is so tricky because there's tweeners and shit like that bro give me dr jay give me dr jay what is that pick give me doctor he give me He had a bag. What do you mean? I'm going to pick the right top bag is the four.

Give me Dirk Novitsky. Young Dirk had a bag. Okay, sure. He did. But he didn't have as many illustrious bag worthy highlights as Dr. Jay. You're crazy for that one. All right. We're going to keep this moving.

I have James Hardin. I'm Kevin Durant. I have Hakeem Olajuwon. I need a two and a four. At my two, give me Kobe Bryant. Okay And at my four Hmm

Trying to think of Can I put people like out of position Sure I got Dr. Jay I would say he's a three Rather than four Okay I still need I need a four who could do everything

But I'm gonna go a little bit big here Give me prime DeMarcus cousins Okay That's nice I like that I love that Interesting It's unique I'm gonna slide

Dirk to the five actually give you LeBron at four Why didn't nobody pick LeBron Because he ain't got the bag like that Yeah but come on He doesn't have saucy handles Like he has handles But like when it comes to just like

Well this is the 14th pick He has at least the 14th best bag Yeah exactly We're not going by the best team We're going by the best bag Remember that folks all right And so with that being said Give me Jamal Crawford

Give me Jamal Crawford I'm getting hella highlights Fuck everything Give me hell of that one There we go Can't believe you pick Dr. J, but Dr. Dr. Why are you saying it like that?

Have you seen Dr. Jribble? Have you seen him dunk? Have you seen him his lay-up package? Dunking is not a bag. Yes, it is. It's a part of your bag. What do you mean? Have you seen Drubble?

Do anything creative? Your bag is also how you finish around a rimish like that. It's Flair, period. All right. That's a bag. Not dribble. Okay. All right. Well, this is a long episode.

Got you guys that double draft? Triple draft? No. Do you get one more I can draft all night I'm ready It's 12 a.m. over here, bro I'm suffering

Go to bed Everybody comment Go to bed Mo Yeah Night night y'all Comment and go to bed Mo We're out of here