The Deep 3 Podcast - LeBron Scores 40,000, The Thunder Can't Stop Winning, & More! | TD3 Live

Episode Date: March 5, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 that is are we on time are we we we are we we are look at i got the stream up at 459 before five time this time so i can't get the they're late after 30 seconds not today say earlier say early fact everyone needs to what's the word uh the everyone says the apology needs to be loud as loud as the disrespect there you go yeah there you go let me see the early spam the chat That's fucking hilarious, right. Where to root eater that? Facts. First shot I see, Mo, I'm sending every rat to your address right now.
Starting point is 00:00:38 Good luck, buddy. If you're going to, the rat needs to go through a two-step security process, right? That's hilarious. So how long you've been live? About 15 seconds. You're fresh into it. I'm going to eat. You're good.
Starting point is 00:00:55 Hey. Yeah. Crazy verbiage you started up for our friends. It is what it is. This is where it gets real raw and uncut over here at T.E.3. The lives version. Yeah, man. As y'all see, by the title, today we can do a real simple stream. I got a dock full of every new story of everything relevant going on the league right now. We're going to talk through it, talk through some news, some bullshit, some hot takes. And then at the end of the stream, we're going to react to your hot takes. I made a tweet, and I got like 40 tweets bookmarks right now to
Starting point is 00:01:27 go through that we're going to write the hot takes URL as well as go through your guys as chat hot takes to get you guys involved let's go ahead and do I am ready to flame some of you watching this stream right now but before we go ahead and continue with the great lives stream that everybody have
Starting point is 00:01:43 why do y'all think you're all slick I'm looking at you I'm talking to you you hear me talking to you you haven't liked this stream right now why weir freakazoid just like watching grown men Yap without supporting us for real. I like the stream.
Starting point is 00:02:00 Weird. Yeah, as always, like the stream if you can. We're at 86 likes right now. 300 of you can hear the first few minutes. Let's run that up. But before we really start, I think we should put the ISO cam out Donovan. Don, do you want to explain what you're wearing right now?
Starting point is 00:02:12 I've got the snuggie going on, a little blanket situation? Listen, I've worn the blanket on the show. You guys understand. There's one thing about me. I'm going to be cozy. I'm going to be comfortable. And so it's just a big, like a, it's just like a jacket. sweater.
Starting point is 00:02:27 It's just big and cozy, right? It's huge. Stand up, stand up. It's gigantic. Let me see how long it is. Whoa, man. You got, I don't have to have no pants on. I was like, what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:02:39 You look at a girlfriend wearing your boyfriend's hoodie? Listen, listen, I wear five inch shorts. This thing is clearly not built for that. I don't wear this outside the house. Right? I wasn't planning on standing up today. But once again, here I am doing something that I wasn't planning on doing. right let's talk basketball let's move past it right let's do that let's do that
Starting point is 00:03:01 all right man first news story of the day as you guys have known if you pay attention to the just world at large over the last two days lebron james has now scored 40,000 points a record that may never be passed it was thought to be unreachable he has finally done it what has your thoughts been since this happened because you know there's been a lot of talk about oh you know furthers the goat status another unbreakable record people were like oh can any of these young guys reach it like you know there's just been a lot of discourse in the world around this no no i'm going with you first me like goat you like all i'm gonna say man goat this is all i can say i remember back in maybe 2018 uh i forget what record you passed he probably broke
Starting point is 00:03:44 some like oh first to score 30 000 points by xumana or 35000 points whatever um a lot of people we're like, hold on a second. Could this guy be the first one to ever hit 40,000 points? Is that a possibility? I remember B- Souls back in 2018. I think he made a certain video about that and it did really well. And the thought of him surpassing that is absolutely assinine. And like what's even crazier is that like he has so much more to go.
Starting point is 00:04:14 Like he could retire with like 45K points. Yeah, that's a crazy point in time. Because he's like still, he's not peak LeBron, obviously. but he hasn't fallen off quite a bit at all. Yeah, exactly. The longevity is obviously ridiculous. It's unmatched. This tweet I pulled up Larry Bird and Magic Johnson combined,
Starting point is 00:04:32 weren't even at 40K. That's ridiculous. I guess that's absurd. Obviously, this contextual part of that's a generation that they grew up in, you know, sports science has come a long way. Those guys had specific reasons, you know, to end their career short, one very different from the other. It's nuts on paper.
Starting point is 00:04:48 That's hilarious. That's hilarious. it's interesting though it's interesting um i think honestly i don't i don't even care about like the 40 um like it didn't register with me i feel like and it's weird because i do want to give lebron his praise but this is something that we've kind of for at least for the last year and a half it's like he's this many points away he's going to break it now like he's going to do this then and we it's all it's been like a countdown for a lot of these accomplishments so whenever it happens we kind of all like recognize what's going on and I think this weekend I've just been trying
Starting point is 00:05:25 to you know and I try not to do it at this point but trying to figure out how I feel about the goat debate between him and Jordan that that's really that's really what I am thinking about this entire weekend of like does does LeBron having 40,000 points at this stage in his career does that eclipse you know what Jordan is able to do in a smaller amount of time like like what are you valuing in a goat debate are you valuing longevity are you valuing pink and when you say this guy is the best ever when you say that what comes to your mind does it does the 39 year old version come to your mind or does the 27 year old version come to mind and how are we like thinking about that and that's that's what's been going on in my head I think
Starting point is 00:06:11 I don't mean it's definitely how much do you evaluate compared to the other it's definitely a conversation for me you know there's three guys in the top of the NBA all-time list. Whoever you're Mount Rushmore is, it includes three guys, LeBron James, Michael Jordan, Kareem.
Starting point is 00:06:24 And whatever order you want, those are solidified top three. Kareem is because longevity. Mike is because peak and LeBron just has both now. So, you know, like whether pick your poison, both are there,
Starting point is 00:06:34 all-time talent as good as anybody ever and the best longevity ever. Like, I don't, it's going to be hard in 15 years to look back and not have like a near solid goat case. Is that your top three as well as Donovan?
Starting point is 00:06:47 I hope so. Yeah. Yeah, it is. It is my top three. Oh, okay. Cool. Yeah. No.
Starting point is 00:06:54 Obviously, like, all of this is just objective and it depends on what you value. There's no, like, clear case, like, all greatest of all time. It's just what matters to you the most. And the combination of all those things, the consistency, the for how long he's been doing it, the peak, which is, like, in my opinion, the greatest player that I've, that's ever been alive. All those things, all those things matters. And also, like, I take into consideration. like the context of things and how things really were for you at that point in time like all those points that he was scoring back in the day when like four people were in the paint at
Starting point is 00:07:29 once and only like maybe one or two players or max could shoot on the basketball court it's insanity so it's like the funny part is you say back in the day and I'm like why are we saying back in the day like he's ancient but it was 20 years ago it's a long time especially in NBA years when we've the past 10 years have been the greatest X's and O's schematic advancement in NBA history It's really changed the game. It's like before and after three point revolution or like distinct eras
Starting point is 00:07:51 of history. So I say like oh, what do you mean? He's not that old. He's still playing. 20 years ago is a long time. Like the fact that he's played through those stark
Starting point is 00:07:59 different eras is ridiculous. And won championships in both areas. Like it's crazy. Yeah. I'm not trying to start anything. I'm not trying to start anything. I'm really not. It's hard for me.
Starting point is 00:08:13 Let's have it now. What do you want to do? What do you want to do? It's like, It's it's interesting because nobody else is like even for for Kareem and I guess it's a little bit different now that LeBron is kind of like set a quote unquote, I don't even standard, but like been this much of an outlier as a consistency merchant, but. Merchant. But like good for a long time merchant. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:43 But like not a lot of other players who. like 20 years is obviously a lot but even players who play like 14 or 15 are starting to get like overlooked and that's also not like normal being being like very good for like 15 16 years and stuff like that and there's there's some players that when it comes to them they don't necessarily get that that credit and so like Kevin Durant's going into year 16 year 17 and still averaging 27 still doing all this I don't think anybody's going to care about what he's doing at age 35 for age 35 right it's not it's not gonna matter in the same way and i think it does i don't know i mean one's in a go debate one's not so of course you don't talk about who kd as much because there's
Starting point is 00:09:27 not as much reason to but you know it's still impressive even even when you talk about top 15 all time that's not gonna matter it's not it's not gonna matter you're you hate on kd more than the rest of the world does i think you're speaking for yourself here most people will put kd top 15 pretty easily and i think this will be another reason to solidify that i'm saying top top 15 whatever like range that you have them in if like kd kd being as good as he is in whatever year, it's not going to get brought up. And I'm not saying this to like, you know, not KD or anything. I'm saying like the idea of longevity in that conversation. It doesn't mean a lot for a lot of other players. And then whenever you get to
Starting point is 00:10:02 the top, now it's like, here it is. Well, so those conversations at the top are more like they're both the best of all time. So the difference could be longevity. When you're at like Katie versus Janus, that's less of a talking point, you know? Like it's just you're just more things to talk about besides the things you have to split hairs with yeah i agree uh we just talk just talking about like their strongest target for and of course like everyone should know and realize that longevity is like playing heavy towards katie's way but it's like a different type of longevity because like he's had hella injuries that's taken him out for two three seasons throughout the totality of his NBA career so when you think of longevity with him you don't think of it and like wow this dude
Starting point is 00:10:44 is like always there type of sense. You think of it like, wow, like, he's old and he's still giving me like fucking 30 at night on like great efficiency. It's different levels, but he still has it. Yeah, man, we can move on to the next topic. Before we do that, though, I got three donations. Six rings.
Starting point is 00:11:02 We got three donations to read out before I move on. First donation, Kevin Galicki. If you guys are here last stream, you know, this guy has deep pockets. He was running up the donations last stream. He took another $10. Goodness. He tip $10.
Starting point is 00:11:14 so welcome back to your weekly dose of Celtics glazing from you maybe not from us and then keep Moe out the hood tip three dollars he said yo I love y'all stuff I don't know if y'all saw it but I'm in a TikTok about y'all don't never fail to put a smile on my face keep Mo out the hood appreciate you that three dollars going straight to his pocket
Starting point is 00:11:33 we did see it we did see the video was fantastic thank you and then a non tip ten dollars said y'all are the perfect mix of seriousness and statistics while keeping a lighthearted and funny best sports content out there Shout out to Don for giving real prop bets to my Boston Celtics next week.
Starting point is 00:11:51 And then Pastor Lane Trick Shots tip $2. There we go. Appreciate y'all. Shout out to y'all, man. Next thing we got to talk about. Gilbert Arenas has been wiling out on Twitter a lot, or not on Twitter on his podcast. He's been on a streak over the last six months
Starting point is 00:12:07 of speed running the loss of credibility and trying as hard as to get the most hot takes out there that'll piss people off for engagement. That's his whole play. He's said it before, so we're trying to do. Most of the time it's whatever. You're just saying, like, basketball stuff. It's fine.
Starting point is 00:12:19 Everyone does it as the game. His most recent take, he blames Europeans for bad defense in the NBA. His quote was, get rid of all the Europeans. Which is crazy off of him. He's going to Trump or what? What the fuck? Holy shit. I'm sure I said a little bit of context.
Starting point is 00:12:34 I'm sure people were like, how do you fix defense? And then he's like, get rid of all the Europeans. Which is still crazy. Ridicrous to say. Like, that is insane. He said, get out of here. He said, If you go to college to learn defense, I guess.
Starting point is 00:12:47 What colleges do Europeans go to? They have no athleticism. They have no speed, no jumping ability. They are a liability on defense. There are 150 euros in the league today. Name the top defenders. None. Just Rudy Gobert and the Greek freak.
Starting point is 00:13:00 He says none the names too. Other than that, they're offensive players. What the fuck is he happening about? What the fuck is he happening about, bro? So, I'm assuming he saw this base. Like, obviously the scoring surge is crazy. all that shit fresh off the all-star week and we saw folks score 200 points it's still crazy but to go ahead and sit down and be like nah some goddamn europeans above all else is absolutely insane
Starting point is 00:13:27 to me and of course it's just like you know stateline hunting or not stateline headline hunting right now and it's it's kind of this is the nastiest way to do it this is by far the nastiest way to do it yeah and he elaborated on this in the pot that's ridiculous right before i'll let you go don One more thing he said earlier on the pot, I saw like the longer version. He was basically like the whole NBA's move to offensive play purposely was to open the game with internationally and allowed the Euros to come. Because when they first came in the 90s, things were too physical for them. They couldn't handle it. They got bitched around and Adam Silver had to make it so they could come in and survive.
Starting point is 00:14:00 I guess Dave Stern. All of it from the top down is fucking idiotic. What do you think that, man? I think, listen, bro's wild. like there's just really no other way to put it and it's just a one it's a it's a old narrative right like people like people 10 years ago were like oh europeans are soft they don't do this they don't do that right so one it's old two it's it's racist and you know xenophobic to just be like yeah all these all these europeans i'm surprised that when he said uh the top defenders that he even said you know go bear and and greek freak because a lot of the stuff that he's was talking about a lot of times whenever people are like oh they're not athletic they don't play defense they're just here to play offense a lot of times people are just talking about white players yeah whenever that happened so I'm I'm surprised that he named those guys but no it's it
Starting point is 00:14:52 and Isaac you said it he does this and purposely and he's he's openly talked about the way that like that he constructs his takes and the things that he says and he just got us right like we fell right into into his trap because it's yeah because the take honestly isn't anything that we should give more attention to because it's just not true a 100% normally i'm with it i'm like yeah that's whatever no everyone the game the name of the game is get attention say hot takes it's media every we do it to an extent i not i don't say bullshit like this but sometimes i know i'm getting a reaction so i'll lean harder into a hot take than i really feel like you know just for content that's well and good everyone does it but stupid shit like this is just
Starting point is 00:15:37 just like an abuse of a platform and just all the wrong ways to use a platform you built where you have immense numbers. I don't know if y'all have seen. His channel was fucking popping. He is huge right now. He's going berserk. And to just say some stupid shit like this, that's just regressive and like you said, xenophobic. And just not even on like a moral way of being xenophobic, but in just a basketball way, it's unhelpful to discourse. And in an error that has so many unhelpful things being added discourse on the internet, him just adding to that fire with a new brain dead way of thinking about the game. game is just just ridiculous what it is just like to sum up all that that is just damaging to say
Starting point is 00:16:14 like he's done so much damage to the basketball community and also like in my opinion his reputation in terms of like how legitimate of a source and like podcasting basketball like dude you can listen to because now when I listen to him I have to like really have a almost a filter through me and like learn how to take bits and piece of it. of like some of the real shit that he has to say as a former player and like speed you out 95% of it and just get that like trash 100% and that's the annoying part too because his podcast was good for a long time before the past few months when this really picked up I thought it was a really good show and I think you see this a lot in the cycle we talked about before in player media
Starting point is 00:16:55 where they come into it and it's like easy just telling stories and doing stuff it's awesome we see the insight from them but then they realize the NBA calendar is long there's a lot of space to fill things to talk about and they got to push it out of their ass and this comes out because they don't know what else to say? Yep. And then you end up two weeks after the All-Star break with nothing to talk about and you're like, hey, man, these Europeans are wild and they're killing the game. It's like, hey, man.
Starting point is 00:17:17 You got to plan out your content. You have to think ahead. Exactly. That's what you have to do. These goddamn Euros. You think Euros is so funny. That is crazy as fucking. I can name so many European players who are like elite top defenders in the NBA today.
Starting point is 00:17:33 Fucking Portuguese. He helps and self as defense. Hella. We didn't mention Wembe. Fucking Denny of Dia's elite, bro. Fucking Maxie Kleber makes a difference on the Dallas Mavericks. What's his name? Portland Trobers.
Starting point is 00:17:44 And Matisse Stuybal makes a fucking difference, bro. I can go on. There's so many good Euro defenders. God, bro. Wait, Mattis is European? Matisse is Australian. Yeah. Oh, it's strong.
Starting point is 00:17:54 Yeah, there we go. Anyways, we move on the next thing. We have some donations to read out. Let me scroll down the way we left off. Oh, my God. We missed a Kevin Galicki bomb. He donated $40. Again, this guy is breaded, y'all.
Starting point is 00:18:05 Kevin Glickie his bread This is ridiculous He said Isaac and Donovan I want to up your locker room bet Lose of your bet Has to wear a jersey From their least favorite team For a stream
Starting point is 00:18:13 Donovan has to wear a clipper's jersey Isaac has to wear a Celtics jersey I'll supply the jersey What I'll supply the jersey It's crazy I don't have to buy it No facts
Starting point is 00:18:25 If I don't have to buy the jersey Yeah I'm down with it I'm happy that Kevin included Jal too in that bitch Because no one is fuck with me When it comes to a jersey off bitch who's fucking with me right now you know what this is i don't know i've seen this before look at this donvin you know who's yours this is jared colbert can't fuck with me man this is real deal
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Starting point is 00:19:14 invest. Y'all Eater should invest. Look, I ain't going to lie to you. That sounds like an elite experience, and if I was y'all, I would tap in like a mug. It's still hot. TD3 merch. In the description of the video, I think. Momo tip $5,
Starting point is 00:19:30 appreciate you. Ashton Johnson $5 and sober Bob 559.5. Appreciate you all. On to the next topic. Victor Romanyama is going ridiculous. He's continuing to get better and better. And the numbers just continue to pile up. You know, he had a signature win against the Oklahoma City Thunder.
Starting point is 00:19:45 Him versus Chet, they dueled. Had that a few days ago. And then, I believe yesterday, he dropped 31, 12, 6, and 6. He is continuing to go absolutely ridiculous every time he touches the court. And I want to say all this, because I saw this tweet from Jackson Frank, where he said, there's a legitimate chance that Wembe is the first rookie since Tim Duncan
Starting point is 00:20:02 to make all NBA and an all defense. team. How do you all feel about this idea? He's not making all-NBA. I love it. I love the support for him and everyone realizing that like, damn, he's already one of the best. He's already better than like 85 to fucking, I don't want to say 90 just yet, but 85% of the NBA, for sure, guarantee. I'm not even thinking about the math. But all-N-A for the entirety season, slow down just a little bit. It's crazy, but, okay, so it's positionless now, so it's harder, probably not. If it wasn't positionless, I don't think it'd be as crazy as you think. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:20:35 That's, that's my main thing. Like, there's so many wings and guards and shit like that that deserve the spot over him this year. But if it was, like, 2015 type shit, 2016, 2018 type shit, oh yeah, he's easily making that. Yeah. His case was that if he continues to play,
Starting point is 00:20:52 he's been on for the last two months, if he did that for the next, no, two more months of the season, averaging 23, 10, 4, 4, and 1, ridiculous, on 61% true shooting, that's clearly the pace of an all-MBA player. Like, if he did that for an entire season, he would be there. So that would probably know that that net amount to like 22, 10,
Starting point is 00:21:08 four, and three or whatever. With the, obviously a top three to five defense player in the league already, obviously team success isn't there, but as an individual, that's not crazy. Again, why not?
Starting point is 00:21:21 Let's go ahead and do it. There is very, very clear that on a night-to-night basis, especially at this point, now they're starting to, like, we've seen the progression. of like a play happens here and then like a quarter happens. And now it's not, it's not only a game that we're seeing where Wemby's going crazy. We've seen him do it for weeks, for months.
Starting point is 00:21:47 And all of us are looking at it like, yeah, this guy's great. Like it's, there's no, there's no doubt in anybody's mind that Wemby is fantastic at what he does. And the only question is, are we going to penalize him for two things? Are we going to penalize him for being 19, 20 years old? And are we going to penalize him for the rest of his team sucking? Because if he was anywhere else, right, even if he was in Washington, right, they'd probably win a couple more games and they'd be okay. Wembe, Wembe should be our NBA.
Starting point is 00:22:19 He's been one of, he's been one of the 15 best players in the league this year. Chad, what are you on that? I'm serious. I'm, if he finishes the season, the way he has the last two months, he will have one of the 15 best seasons in the league this year. Chad, what do you all think? I started a poll. Spam with what you think, Chad.
Starting point is 00:22:41 How do you feel about that, Mo? Because I know you were the one that I stand against that. You said for a whole season, though. I guess the question there is how much a team success mattered to you in all NBA conversations? I'll play into, okay, so real quick, team success, like, it has to matter just a little bit. You can't be like one of the three or four worst teams in the NBA and get that nod just yet. if he was one of the four or five worst teams sure fuck it we've seen it plenty of times before but 12 13 wins on the season come on you know what i'm saying now a lot of that doesn't have to do with him
Starting point is 00:23:13 i would say almost i don't want to say almost all of it because yeah he did start off as a rookie here and there but i just personally wouldn't give him that nod because i need to see a little bit more on the wins the loss column and also on top of that you know like he hasn't been what you said over the last two, the past two months for the entirety of the season. Yeah, it's been amazing. It necks out pretty close though. It nets out, not too bad.
Starting point is 00:23:38 I guess, okay, so we have to talk about this if we're being real by thinking about who would be kicking off the teams, right? First team, like, if we go by, Shea and Luker are the guards. Tatum. Tatum, Janice, Yokich, as the forwards, throw it out there.
Starting point is 00:23:52 Okay, yeah. Second team, who are we going with? Curry DeMitch? Or who am I thinking of it? Curry Brunson? Curry Actually Brunson D Mitch Curry can be 13
Starting point is 00:24:03 It doesn't matter Let's go position my position Curry Brunson D Mitch Who is the last guard Tyrese Maxie Bucke or Halliburton Booker
Starting point is 00:24:12 Oh no Oh no he's Is he gonna miss I think so Let's just say Maxi The guards no fucking matter Oh actually I forgot It's justinless
Starting point is 00:24:20 My bad Never mind Oh hold on Y'all we gotta pull up a Google Doc y'all Let's get to brass tacks We're gonna talk about this Because we gotta go by Every single player in the league since there is no longer positions.
Starting point is 00:24:33 Positionless is crazy. I just can't get with that vision just yet. Okay, yeah, let's get with that vision. Let's get this down. First team, we have. Who did I say again? Okay, Shay. So, Shea, Luca, Tatum, Janus, and Yolkich.
Starting point is 00:24:52 Doesn't matter. They're just going to be first team. Yeah, that's fine. Second team. Who are the locks? Ron is obviously making second team Yes Being real
Starting point is 00:25:01 Yeah David's probably Make second team Who else's the MVP conversation That we're forgetting about MVP conversation Kauai might make second team Yeah Hawaii's definitely making it for sure
Starting point is 00:25:12 I got a look at the standings Thunder Nobody else in the Thunder Timberwols Oh what Anthony Edwards Make second team maybe Oh I didn't even think about that
Starting point is 00:25:23 Okay Let's pencil Ant and Curry into third team, I think Okay Okay, okay Katie has to make a team as well Durant's second team for sure
Starting point is 00:25:35 Yeah Let me look at the east Nobody else Run through the west Oh, D Mitch is probably going to be on there for sure Easily Okay, that's second team We have three spots left and third team
Starting point is 00:25:48 Chat, who are you all And V's not going to play enough game chat I see Halliburton Haliburton's been playing really bad the past month since he got hurt So he's probably going to lose it Maxie has a better chance over Halliburton, I think. We're going to Brunson.
Starting point is 00:26:01 Two spots left and 13. We'll go Brunson. Two spots left. There's Booker. There's a bonus. Does Sabonis have a better chance than Wembe? There's Booker. You know how I feel about Saboanus.
Starting point is 00:26:12 I know. No, no. I understand. I understand. I think last season, yes. If you are talking about a team that right now, and let me pull up the standings, the Kings are six. And they're fine.
Starting point is 00:26:26 They're okay. but this guy wasn't even an all-star like that so we're okay there's there's no like there's no like there's no respect quote-unquote respect that we have to pencil in force about it okay people are saying Booker I think Booker's that's fair people were saying Bam yeah Bam versus Brown
Starting point is 00:26:44 Okay so last spot there's Brown there's Brown are you seen Brown Jalen Brown? Yeah I don't think so but I get it I'm gonna tell you right now if it comes down my vote if it was between Jalen Brown and Wemby, I'm giving it to Wemby. Bro, so this last spot. Since the new year, since the new year, right?
Starting point is 00:27:04 Last 27 games, 23, 10, 4, 4, and 1.5 steals on 50% from the field and 38% from 3. And easily one of, and obviously the steals and blocks show it, but easily one of the most impactful defenders in the league. This guy is ridiculous. Let him do it for two more months Let him do it for two more months I think the team success Will probably come to kill him
Starting point is 00:27:31 And he probably won't make it But it's not crazy if he did Like I understand it Like It's just only just one spot left And we need a lot of guys Like Tyrese Max is averaging 26 He's been the team's 5 and 4
Starting point is 00:27:42 Since Joiling B got hurt He's really carrying the load Max is getting in bro Bam out of bio Tyreys Halliburton Even though he's falling off The past month It's still having a good season
Starting point is 00:27:51 Yeah okay Maybe he's probably not gonna make it But he's in the conversation. And the only thing keeping him is the motherbombs that he's playing with. But if we're just going, if we're just being real, listen, again, I want to, I want to see what this looks like for you guys after another six weeks. And every two days, oh, wow, Matt's got to Mo. If you go, you're good. But every two days when I send a tweet or you send a tweet into the green.
Starting point is 00:28:24 group chat on some, Yo, Wembe's crazy. Yeah, he's top 15 already. Yeah, this is going down. It's happening right here. It happens on a nightly basis. Every time he plays, something happens that you've never seen before.
Starting point is 00:28:39 And I don't think that we should go blind to it. Yeah, I agree. Again, at the end of the day, voters are going to care about the wins. But if they didn't, he was clearly a top 15 player in terms of pure ability. We'll see how it shakes out. I'm not holding my breath, though.
Starting point is 00:28:54 So right now I'm looking at NBA players. Who are the worst NBA or the best NBA players to make all NBA team with the worst teams? And someone named Neil Johnson made an all NBA team with a record of 12 and 57 back in 1952. Yeah, well, that's 1952. Exactly. Exactly. Listen, precedents are made to be broken.
Starting point is 00:29:27 Someone, Tracy McGrady, he hit 19 games back in 2003, 2004. Wembe, I don't know if it's safe if the Spurs
Starting point is 00:29:36 can go ahead and win, what, six more games. I don't know if that's safe. That's not safe at all. That's later. Just can't happen. All right,
Starting point is 00:29:44 we're at 800 viewers right now, 336 likes. Need you all to run it up for this. While you all, let's take a second to like the stream, before we move on to the next topic, I got some don't knows to read out. Will Ayers, another guy who was having the band for band runoff last week,
Starting point is 00:29:56 donated $20. He said, I play on the Spurs, and I see Wemby do crazier stuff in real life. Don't know what that means, Will. Love the stream. Don't know what that means, Will, but appreciate you. Wait, you play on the Spurs? I'm assuming he says he, like, watched the Spurs, and he's a fan of them or something like that. He said, I play on the Spurs.
Starting point is 00:30:15 He's obviously joking. A bald boy? If I was a ball boy, I would say I'm on his team, too. Men's, men's league on. on a Tuesday night. He got the Spurs jersey on. Shout out to KG for tipping $3. Shout out to Mr. Raffles Shark,
Starting point is 00:30:31 27 for donating $1. Momo tip $3. And Kevin Glicki donated another $20 a few seconds ago. He said, Mo, I want to give you your props at the preseason predictions episode. You said Chris Tops was going to cook in Boston and my brother, you were right. There you go.
Starting point is 00:30:46 Good job, Mo. Absolutely cooking. It's a white man thing. I understand. All right, shout. Y'all have 387 likes, running up the 400 for me real quick. Next thing we're going to talk about,
Starting point is 00:30:56 the Boston Celtics blew the Warriors back out the other day. I think it was yesterday. Won by 50, it was just a quintessential Sunday matinee back low-outness. I said that word wrong. Anyways,
Starting point is 00:31:10 after the game, Steph Curry said, that's what we used to do to teams. He was reminiscing on the fact that he used to be on the other side of that and now he's the one getting his back blown out. How the mighty have fallen? How did y'all feel about this game? good god listen to be honest with you i didn't even watch i didn't watch the entirety of that game
Starting point is 00:31:26 bro i just saw like after the back was blown out i just saw like whatever whatever was left and i'm like damn i saw i got the bleacher report notification talking about i don't even know what the half-time score was like 39 to 83 or some crazy said like that i was like oh my goodness how so and i look at this and i remember like oh yeah like the warriors like over the last 16 games i think they've been like 13 and three or something of that nature before this game um but game before that i think they played the toronto raptors and they barely fucking won um and curry again has been like struggling slightly just a little bit over the last two three games or whatever and i see it i'm like okay i'm not going to hold too much weight into it but the celtics are
Starting point is 00:32:12 elite and they're proven that yeah man they're insane the warriors i mean i just made a video about it my channel. They've been really good lately after they started starting Dremont as full-time center and moving away from the line with Cavan Looney to make their spacing better. Caminga's been better. Projemski's been starting over Clay Thompson as worked out well. Their bench lineups really have an identity now with Clay there and Chris Ball just coming back. Like there's you start to see a team that makes sense and not just like somebody floundering to do anything offensively and defensively. But even then, even them being better and being more of a competent team, they don't got shit on the Celtics who are just a league above everybody.
Starting point is 00:32:48 right now. That's what happened, man. Oh, my goodness. It's tragic. You heard that young nudie song? Oh, my God. Oh, my God. This is what happens when a play-in team
Starting point is 00:32:57 faces the best team in the league at home on a Sunday early in the day. Blowouts happen in this type of situation all the time. And listen, there's a clear cut between the top of the league and the next tier and then the next tier of the Warriors are. What type of stuff happens?
Starting point is 00:33:10 Yeah, this game let me know, though. The Celtics are ready. They're ready. They went through like the little lull and everyone. Like, they didn't. seem as sharp or as crisp as everybody thought they were, then they're like, okay, I'll start break. Let's start ramping it up, right? They've won 11 straight. They win by 50 at home. They're
Starting point is 00:33:28 ready for the playoffs. And this is exactly what you want to see because this is, this is the thought that they had coming into the season where it doesn't matter who's on the bench, because by the time that people go to the bench, we're going to be up by 15, 20 anyways, because we have the best starting five, right? And even when you do go to the bench, we have the best bench player in the game, right? We have the best top six. They are going to win off a talent and a lot of their flaws. Hopefully, they never get to the point where their flaws are in position to be exposed, which is, you know, late game playmaking, some of the decision making, the shot selection. A good solution, if somebody could say, yeah, let's go get a point guard. The
Starting point is 00:34:13 Celtics are like let's just be up by more but you know whenever the fourth quarter comes and this game was a perfect example of that so they're good we're at the point out okay earlier in the season there's an episode maybe like five episodes ago where I was telling people I think I said on the stream too I'm like soft launching and taking my head where I was like I feel like the Celtics a little more vulnerable to people are thinking and there's a certain teams I think have a chance to beat them in a playoff setting but I got to think about it more I was like putting the take out there like I think soon I'll have an opinion about the Celtics not quite being this unbeatable force, you might think they are. Time developed.
Starting point is 00:34:46 The Bucks could continue to shit their pants. Granted, they've been better recently. Drowling Bees, legs fell off. The calves are just the calves, you know, if I can believe them like that. I can't even, like, pretend there's any team that can touch them now. Like, I don't think the Celtics are perfect, but no team is in their stratosphere right now. There's no competition. Unless the bucks get it together in the perfect time leading into the playoffs, Dame finds his 2022 Dame Mojo back. Unless something, everything goes right for them, nobody in this conference just touching them. Chat,
Starting point is 00:35:12 who do you all think has a chance to beat them? Oh, my God. Let me know. There's two teams. There is a fully healthy Nick's team and there is a...
Starting point is 00:35:21 Oh my God. And I'm being, I'm being serious. Like, that's the only team that could like kind of like push them, make it make life difficult. So that and who knows
Starting point is 00:35:32 if we're ever going to see that lineup. And two, play off Jimmy Butler and the Miami Heat at full strength. Those are the only two ways that the Celtics can be messed with.
Starting point is 00:35:44 Yep. It's so funny because on paper and everything that's logical would make you think this team would beat the living snot out of the Miami heat, but you just can't bet against the heat ever anymore.
Starting point is 00:35:55 Like, from what they've proven, like, we say it every time. Voodoo Magic is in their hands. They know how to get it done. They have the Celtics number. You can never count them out. But by any logical reason, there's no reason to think they're going to win.
Starting point is 00:36:09 It just doesn't need. sense at all dude over the weekend i think i i tweeted out something troll shit i was like thank god for uh i's like thank god for wendy because jason tatum wills become became the face of the league trolling or whatever you know and me personally i see jason tater i'm like yo like this dude is elite 25 he's like what 25 20 i don't even think he's 26 just yeah yeah he's 25 um one of the best a lot of people think five best players in the world i think he's like top six seven or whatever it doesn't really matter just know he's fucking elite i see him if i see him go ahead and fail again i would be also surprisingly one of the first people to come to his defense and be like he's only
Starting point is 00:36:54 25 years old if all this collapses again if all this collapses again who cares there's still plenty of time left on the board of course i disagree with that i disagree with that i disagree so heavily with that take. If they don't win this year, they fucking never will. This is the best team in recent NBA history from the Eastern Conference. Let's say that. This team has head and shoulders of anything we've ever seen from them. If they can't win with this
Starting point is 00:37:19 against this competition out east, they will never do it, I promise. I won't say best team in recent NBA history. The Boston's the conference. Definitely not. The last 2019 would blow their backs out. Are you kidding me? No, they wouldn't. This sounds like team is good.
Starting point is 00:37:36 No. The Raptors of the Why Kyle Lari and Pascal Siaka, Mogadinovi, Marcus Saldry had so many weapons. Norm Powell is there. I don't got a list of topics on this team. Again, it's easy to say that when you saw them win a championship and we haven't seen the playoffs of this team yet, so there's the winning bias there when we know they won. On paper, this team is just as good.
Starting point is 00:37:54 Whether they'll get it done, who knows? But this team is ridiculous to dominate. But I understand what you're saying. It's just not like as like transcendence in my mind compared to like that rapid thing. But all we can compare to is regular season. Isaac is right. The only reason why you're saying that is because the Sussex haven't won yet, right? For the last seven years, they've been in the conference finals.
Starting point is 00:38:19 Who is it? Since 2016, 2017, that Isaiah Thomas. I think it's four times. Conference finals. Conference finals. They lost in the finals. Then they lost in the conference finals. They've been to the conference finals five times in the last seven years, right?
Starting point is 00:38:34 If they won one of those championships, if they won one of those championships, if they on one of those years, you would look at them right now and say, Tatum and Brown and Horford, they have championship pedigree, they know how to get it done. They're just trying to get back, right? They finally retooled. This team is, this team is good. They have a, they have a fatal flaw. And it seems like whether if it's Jalen Brown going left or, or, you know, shot selection at the end of the games, there's always something that happens. If they can get over that, we will look back at one of these at this Celtic team and be like, this is the team that was good enough to finally get over the hump, they put all the pieces
Starting point is 00:39:10 together. This is exactly what we've been waiting for for from Jason Tatum, who has been a part of like four of those runs. I don't care if he's 25. He has mad playoff experience. He has mad regular season experience. The excuses are up. The time to wait is up for Jason Tatum in the cell team. That time's not here. I don't even care about the previous runs. I don't even care about the previous runs. All we can think about this team is regular season because that's all done so far. You know, this is the first years are together. We haven't seen them in a playoff setting yet. So it's not really fair to say they're worse than teams that won the championship. Like, yeah, we've seen them win it. But this is one of the most dominant
Starting point is 00:39:43 regular season teams of all time since adding Drew Holiday and Chris Osbergis. Like, without competition in over the last five to seven years, they're on pace to be ridiculous. Obviously, we have plenty of reasons to doubt them come playoff time. But just regular season, again, if you can't win with this team, you're not going to fucking win. It's going to be, this is the best spot Jason Tanams ever been in by far. why some never lose a game for the rest of the season that wouldn't be that shocked oh my gosh and while y'all say it at the same time
Starting point is 00:40:10 they somehow learn and they somehow be able to fumble against the Miami heat in the goddamn second round bro I understand it I sit here and I just sometimes feel bad for Jason Taylor like at the same time I say I'm like oh boo-hoo you came into like one of the most successful organizations in the goddamn league one of the best front offices by far you know what I'm saying but it's like damn bro you're over here doing what you're supposed to be doing you develop and all that
Starting point is 00:40:35 obviously there's certain aspects of his game that you know what I'm said we'll take the self just generally over the top but he just he just around a ton of greatness and this is what happens when those expectations settle upon your shoulders it doesn't like people like Isaac and Donovan and me to a certain degree do not care you know what I'm saying it's all about getting it done at the end of the day yeah sucks and we move on the next topic. We got some don't know to read out. Will Ayer donated another $20. He said definitely not in the NBA, but a big fan of 2K. Would love to see Isaac drop some content for you. There's this whole channel here with my name on it that has content on it. So if you want to see content for me, go ahead and type my name into YouTube. You'll see this right here. Perfect timing. Beautiful. What was your last episode, Isaac? Talk about the Warriors being back and how they fixed their season. And then they promptly decided to get blown up by 50 points on national television. Real great timing for me.
Starting point is 00:41:31 Good educational, motivational, and also entertaining. Crowneaters, tap in. I tap in if I were you. Kevin Glicki Delian, another $10, appreciate you. Sober Bob 559, $3. As far, $1. Appreciate all y'all. We can't just speed back, speed pass by what Kevin just said earlier.
Starting point is 00:41:51 He was like, oh, yeah, I'm on the team. And he's like, no, I'm on them on the Spurs. Like, that's crazy as hell to say. That's crazy as hell to say. Will is donate another $20? He said, also, y'all like to paint Donovan as a hater, but we see the big sweater and positivity. Stay warm.
Starting point is 00:42:08 There we go. He can be a hater and wear a big sweater. Both can be true. Anyways, next topic. The Oklahoma City Thunder are the number one seed in the Western Conference, y'all. This has been going back and forth. The top four have been jumbled up for a while. But as we yesterday, they took the spot for the Minnesota Timberwolves.
Starting point is 00:42:25 And this tweet by Legion Toop started a lot of dialogue. They said, give me one reason why this squad won't win all this year. My one reason whether we win it all if there is one, is this white boy standing on the right? Number three. Yeah, number three, that's the reason. But what do you all think? How are you feeling right now about the Thunder's title chances?
Starting point is 00:42:44 I mean, listen, there's a couple reasons why you can say. Historically, they are very young, and normally we don't see the younger teams in the league be able to make a run like that. So there's one. Two, like y'all said. Number three,
Starting point is 00:42:59 Listen, he messes up the game a little bit. I'm not going to lie. He's one of the worst players in the NBA right now. Number three is a problem. And then the third reason is they were like, hey, bitch, Mike Bionbo, please come help us, right? They were calling him because they have a rebounding problem because if Chet gets in trouble, teams just getting mad boards on them, and that could be an issue. So those three reasons why I wouldn't pick the Thunder to win the finals.
Starting point is 00:43:26 Speaking of rebounding problem, yesterday, Yusuf Nurgis went ahead and got 31 rebounds. That's absolutely insane. That's the most random shit to ever happen in, like, human history on a Sunday, bro. That's just, like, so uncalled. On a Sunday. He got, Yusuf Nurgis got 31 points or 31 rebounds. That's absolutely insane. And in that same exact game, I'm starting to know and just like accept that Yusuf Nerkis
Starting point is 00:43:54 when it comes to guarding non-offensive threats. he's by far the most disrespectful player in the entire NBA to do so he'll just go ahead and turn around completely and he did that to who you guys said number three josh giddy earlier in the game he just started walking away and of course Josh you know missed a wide open three who should be surprised by that and so with all that being said you know um i think that the okay c thunder are generally like probably the third worst case scenario fourth best team than NBA the only reason And why I think that they look at you some Nerkish, bro. That's so crazy.
Starting point is 00:44:29 That's like he got COVID, bro. And the fact that he missed the rebound too is hilarious. It paid off. Yeah, no. Dude, this is hilarious. I got guard me, man. Stop playing with me. Talking about Josh Giddy is so funny because last year it was like, oh, cool.
Starting point is 00:44:45 He's just a young, interesting player. He's different. He doesn't have a bag, but he gets to the rim. He can pass a little bit. He's fun. I can see him, you know, maybe he could be something. There's potential there. That was cool and all when they were, like,
Starting point is 00:44:55 fighting for a play-in spot and there were a young frisky team developing, you don't necessarily have to prioritize playing the best players when you're trying to develop your young talent, see what they can be. Now they are the number one seed, and this motherfucker is a cone on defense, can't shoot, the passing does nothing for you whenever your defender is sitting in the paint. There's no redeeming factors to him right now. He's just straight up negative on both sides of the court, and it's just crazy how different that is when you're a rebuilding team versus a contender. Like, it stands out so much more. It's a lot of that's interesting. The allegations It's not interesting at all.
Starting point is 00:45:24 And that quickly made him so not likable. Folks in the beginning of the season were running with his nickname Slob Wizard or whatever. No one cares about that anymore. If you say that alongside of his name, you are in dangerous fucking territory and just not talking to you. So it's a lot easier to hate him as well. I love you mentioned, yeah. So we're buried the lead a little bit. Yusuf Nerkich had $31.
Starting point is 00:45:48 Kevin Glicki just donated $75. He said, good not, boys. I'm checking out. Got to work at 3 a.m. tomorrow probably we'll miss next week's stream i'm going to be in borah bore with my lady shout out to you kevin galicki shout out you have fun in borah borah borah he's breded what of a flexed chat spam w kevin let kevin know we appreciate it spam w kevin for him kevin i need you here in next two weeks bro because i'm trying to go to fucking borah borah
Starting point is 00:46:12 god damn it yeah man as i was saying use of nurkish had 31 rebounds that's fucking absurd and of course it happened against the oklahoma city thunder i think if you had to bet on any I'd give up 31 rebounds, it would be the OKC Thunder. Like, that's not a surprise to anybody, given their lack of size, like Donovan said. But I also don't think it really matters that much, unless they're playing, like, the Nuggets, which obviously is going to be a problem. But they know this. Mark Dagnall is a very smart coach, and he had this quote yesterday where he said,
Starting point is 00:46:39 a lot of nights we lose a rebounding battle. And as long as the benefit continues to outweigh the cost, we're going to continue to accept the tradeoffs. We're not going to be a perfect team. At the end of the day, there's more of the game than just rebounding. If we try to solve every problem, then we're going to be trying to chase our shadow. That's a good way to put it. because they know they're small,
Starting point is 00:46:54 but they do it because they have lots of shooting, lots of spacing, one through five, can all theoretically set a screen or be the ball and they're getting a screen set for them, attack mismatches.
Starting point is 00:47:02 It's a style of play that's the reason they're so great. So, you know, there's going to be pros and cons with every roster construction. This is the con that they're deciding to do, right? They run the numbers, they say rebounding is the best thing
Starting point is 00:47:13 we can decide to take a hit on if everything else thrives, and it works well. Yeah, I get that. I get that? And for any other team, I could probably accept this. But for the Oklahoma City Thunder,
Starting point is 00:47:27 who have 250 first round picks over the next three years, right? And very, like, mad disposable assets on the roster, you could have fixed this problem, right? You could have fixed it. It doesn't have to be an issue in March. This didn't have to be a thing. And now NERCITES out here get in 30 points, I mean, 30 rebounds, and a bunch of them off of Josh Giddy shots because he doesn't even have to be here.
Starting point is 00:47:51 You could have fixed everything They won the game They won the game It doesn't matter In one move You could have solved this Because you're not talking about We're not talking about
Starting point is 00:48:02 Just a regular season game That's not what the issue is The issue is whenever people Talk about this Is when you get into the playoffs And you start playing teams Who are bigger than you You start playing teams
Starting point is 00:48:13 Who have advantages On the rebounds On the boards It can get nasty And it can get ugly Real quick If you are not fully prepared and once again you didn't you didn't have to be this down bad at rebounding
Starting point is 00:48:26 and so that's why i have an issue with it can also get ugly when you have cat and gobert running around guarding all these guys cat has to guard jdub because there's every there's a million ball handlers out there like you know there's stuff that they make nasty for other people in the same way because this stuff's nasty for them you know like it works both ways but you don't have to you don't have to do that though you can't okay you can't have everything if you just not a bunch of seven-footers man you can't though you can't have five out offense and being elite rebounding unless you have the versus you have victor women yama jaron jackson evan mobley the perfect people lined up it's impossible to do everything well in the basketball court talent wise
Starting point is 00:49:00 every team's going to have their weakness every single team is going to have their weakness and for o kc is just their youth and also like physically their size a team that like i compared to in slightly similar light but a different stratosphere again because okayc's just like systematically they're just built different like the cleveland cavaliers they got their ass whooped on the boards but they also cap lock themselves not cap lock themselves but put themselves in a chauhold because jared allen not a not a shooter of course and evan mowley was far from that as well okay c doesn't have their issues i think that the size issues may become like a real issue in the playoffs once they face a team like of course the denver nuggets a team yeah
Starting point is 00:49:45 punish them on the boards and out shoot the fuck out of them. That's when it's like, okay, we might be fucked. Yeah, that's the matchup. Everything becomes difficult when you played Nicola Yokic. And that's something we'll probably see them address going to the next season when they have more flexibility, you know. It's hard to make big moves at the deadline. Only personally we can think of those available that helped them on the rebounding
Starting point is 00:50:04 while maintaining their offensive scheme is Kelly Olinic. And maybe he didn't make sense. You know, maybe he was going to the Raptors regardless. I can imagine they'll try to address this however they can come the offseason. yeah maybe there's like a whole a big little massive trait that's looming or a player who might be wanting to be forcing his way out who's maybe a seamless fit on the fit on the okay c thunder and yeah when the braun leaves they'll get anthony davis if we'll fit next to chat it'll be great that will be fucking that would ruin their spacing for sure but god damn that would be ridiculous you shoot better than josh giddy i'll tell you that does he at least he has a minute i mean he has something okay The numbers are skewed because people be leaving Josh Gidey like he got like an insane elite version of COVID. There we go. That's what you're crazy.
Starting point is 00:50:53 Yeah. We got another thing to talk about. First, some more donations. Momo tip $15. He said Donovan oiled up 500K. I need it. That's not happening. That's not happening.
Starting point is 00:51:04 My brother, this is YouTube. You're on the wrong platform right now. Facts. You're sick of me. Silver tip $5. Appreciate you. Blood wool. Tip $23.
Starting point is 00:51:14 Appreciate you. Rosa Parks, $3. Yeah. Rosa Parks. Shout out to you. My B. Last month is your month.
Starting point is 00:51:23 MJ tip $1. Appreciate you. And Kevin Galicki tipped another $30. He says, should have moved to Boston Moe, not D.C. Not only would I take you
Starting point is 00:51:31 anywhere, I'd wire your house for free. Wire my house for free. Oh, man. Kevin, I thought you were gone. I thought you were tapping out of the street. Go to Borah, Bora, Bora.
Starting point is 00:51:40 I thought he was packing for Borah. You know, A serious man about your goddamn relationship, man. I respect the hustle of T3 stuff. Well, this game real, bro. And Momo tipped another $3.50. He said, I don't need a $15, trying to be generous, keep Mo out the hood. And Kevin just whips out his wallet and tells people exactly why he's better than me.
Starting point is 00:52:00 He said, now look at your donos, you pocket merchants. Listen, I'm against you. I'm never going to miss your don't know. I'm just going to wait until we finish the conversation and then get to it. I got you, Momo. Calm down. Fuck your merchant. Next topic.
Starting point is 00:52:13 Scotty Barnes has been fantastic this year he broke his hand, he's gonna be out for the next month or so and Legion Hoos made this tweet said he's the only player in the NBA to lead their teams in all stats this season points, rebounds, assists, steals and blocks it's ridiculous then Dunk Central put out this tweet
Starting point is 00:52:29 one gotta go with Scotty Barnes, Palo Vancaro, Larry Marketing and Zion Williamson. What are y'all's thoughts? Who would you cut out of these four players? See the Palo or Scotty is one of those two I mean, I know Isaac's going with Palo So I don't know
Starting point is 00:52:44 He doesn't He doesn't I mean I love Larry Markening's a little hard I mean I love Larry Markening But he's not like a stone cold lock It depends on what context When it comes to like Who would you rather build your team around
Starting point is 00:52:55 I don't know Like what context do you guys want to talk about this in Just Who are you building your team rock Who's if one of these guys Was the cornerstone of your franchise Who's going Okay so do you guys do you guys
Starting point is 00:53:10 Do you guys do for this year or going forward That's a different conversation starting a team to rebuild right now or just this season who's better Let's do right now Right now I'm still taking Zion He's staying Yeah right Zion's staying for sure
Starting point is 00:53:23 And I think Scottie Barnes is staying for sure If it's just right now I guess Palo versus Larry's hard Because I would assume If I'm building a team around them I'm going to have a better roster construction To make Palo look good than the magic have
Starting point is 00:53:36 So maybe there's some more oomph that he can give a team than Lowry But Larry's been better addition this year I think would you agree it depends on I don't know hey I don't know that's tough it's hard because they're two completely different types of players no palo's a better pass or two to be more complimentary and Paulo is not the complimentary he is the team are supposed to beat the team supposed to run through him he's the unit you know so it's hard it's hard to go ahead
Starting point is 00:54:06 and I think like for me building my team I always like to have because I think one of the hardest things to find and obviously like what laurie does like off the ball do like that's also hard to do that at a high level like he does but i always value having somebody who can be a number one on ball creator and if we're starting a team that means a lot to me so i raise your ceiling for sure yeah so i would so sorry laurie you've been good but you got to go larry's like the perfect number two or three option if you have another ball handler you put seven foot clay thompson next to him you're cooking is that the thing is right now Now, I don't know if Palo can be the perfect number one.
Starting point is 00:54:45 I'm not sure if Scotty can. I 100% know that Zion can be. Yeah. So it's like, I'll cut Lowry. If it's just, listen, if it's who you're building your team around long term, Larry has to go. You know, age, he is who he is. This is his peak, which is a great fucking peak.
Starting point is 00:54:59 But we know Palo, once he gets better finishing at the rim, the passing continues to improve, which is already really good. The shootings come around. Once there's more spacing around him and complimentary talent, he's going to be a superstar. Scotty and Zion, I think, were already like star stars, I think. well, Scotty's running same level as Palo. If this question was like, who would you rather put on your team right now?
Starting point is 00:55:17 I think a lot of NBA teams would choose Lari because he's more of a seamless fit any and everywhere. Paolo, you have to make some real, like, real differences to your offense. People are saying cut Zion. Y'all need to get past the playing tournament. He has not fat and out of shape anymore. He's been cooking. He's been very good.
Starting point is 00:55:36 He's still Zion Williamson, the team that says a lot of people, so they don't need him to score a million points a game. Rampor Kenny says Scotty Barnes is so overrated Boy, you are crazy, man If anything, he's underrated People do not go to fuck about the Raptors Well, let me not say that
Starting point is 00:55:52 His fans are insane So he's probably not underrated anymore They roll like the fucking Mafia on Twitter They just got that brick muse account out of here Did you all see that? Wait, which one? Really? Brick muse, yeah, he tweeted
Starting point is 00:56:02 No, all the autistic jokes He tweeted out a picture of, like he There's a company that makes t-shirts And there was a big t-shirt That's like an old style of like a throwback shirt That's so much Scotty Barnes picture said autistic. Very lame joke, obviously.
Starting point is 00:56:15 That, like, people make the jokes, but this is a major account that tweeted out a link to go buy a T-shirt with it. And the Scottie Barnes Mafia got him the fuck out of here. It was hilarious. They got him suspended. The fucking idiot who runs the account
Starting point is 00:56:27 has it on his LinkedIn. And it says, like, No way! He brought up a Twitter account like that? Let me see if I can find it, bro. It's hilarious. No way. He has it on his LinkedIn.
Starting point is 00:56:38 Bro, he's a cornball. He's the last name. Oh my goodness. brisper everyone knows his name now it's hysterical i don't know i can't believe i gotta find it putting your twitter on your lincoln is nuts and it's not even just his twitter it's like he runs brick muse like that's some kind of like he like his house of highlights like he founded like the next gen media platform like what a fucking dork congratulations you are a f to your hater on twitter you are known by nobody jonathan assad he has people we're putting him out here which
Starting point is 00:57:11 maybe it's a little weird to dox him but he deserves it because he posted that stupid shit which is just like irresponsible for your platform to be doing that brick muse creator transforming NBA missteps into viral sensations innovator in sports entertainment and digital storytelling listen I think I think I think honestly for the way he was able to frame that on his resume we should give him his account back that is elite that is elite resume writing right there right this is elite corporate dick writing this is hysterical that is fantastic
Starting point is 00:57:41 you can get a six-figure job off of that anybody if you want to work in social media copy and paste that you can make sure for jobs he thinks he's Omar Raja this is hilarious this ridiculous can you imagine your daughter
Starting point is 00:57:54 brings home a guy and you ask mom what do you for a living man run brick muse how are you sir I get to the side I'd like to meet you fucking loser
Starting point is 00:58:07 I might disown my daughter That's corporate bullshit, man. Wait, did somebody say he tweeted? Who tweet? Jonathan Assad tweeted? It's so embarrassing. I say I also say, Scotty Barnes fans move like the fucking mafia, Tony Soprano, whatever comparison you want to make, he's the fucking godfather, and it's hysterical.
Starting point is 00:58:30 They're awesome. That's sick, bro. Purpose on me all. Next thing I saw, the NBA updated their power rankings. Let me see. We're our donations get to first for I move on.
Starting point is 00:58:42 Momo will tip another $3.50. Appreciate you. And NADOC tipped $1. Next thing we've got to talk about Legion Hoops tweeted that the NBA updated their power rankings.
Starting point is 00:58:52 I don't know why I credited Legion Hoops like they made this up or something. But they have the Celtics 1, Nuggets 2, Thunder 3, Clippers 4, Timber Rules 5.
Starting point is 00:59:00 How are you all feeling about this top 5 right now? This is what you would do? Pretty solid. Pretty solid. Yeah, I think this is a fair top five I don't think that I would make any changes
Starting point is 00:59:12 to this right now I think Timberwols have been playing better than the Clippers as of late so I would probably go Clippers five Timberwell's four but that's pretty minor change you know yeah
Starting point is 00:59:24 Mo it's solid I mean ew bro yeah clipper I thought I was in the principles I was for a second right flashbacks
Starting point is 00:59:36 flashbacks We have 557 likes on this account right now. I'm on the stream. A thousand of you are in here. Let's run this up. That's a damn shame, bro. Oh my goodness. We're only at 550.
Starting point is 00:59:48 Did we fall off? I know. Because Mo told me before the stream started, he was like, listen, I have a good feeling about this. And if we get to a thousand likes like we did last time, then I thug, you know, I would thug shake.
Starting point is 00:59:59 He told us that before. Mo's dying to thugshake. He wants you to let him. He really is. He really is. And it just sucks because nobody, nobody's going to see that, right? because you guys don't care about us to like this.
Starting point is 01:00:11 He told us he has recoil. Okay. That's insane. Why would you let that come out of your mouth? Bro. Why are you talking about he having recoil? Listen, man, we're going to react to guys as hot takes pretty soon. We're finishing up these new stories.
Starting point is 01:00:30 We're going to get to it. We got to be at 800 likes by the time we get there. I think y'all can do it. And Kevin can look he's donated another $45. He said, look, I started donating because I love your content. I'm determined to be the king of TD3 donations. My guy, you are already there. You are the undisputed king.
Starting point is 01:00:43 I know you got Will Air going ban for ban with you. I think you got it to crown right now. Yeah, I ain't going to lie. Kevin, the next time we have a live show next year, I don't know when it will be. You better be there. And you better be throwing a man's up in stage too, my boy. Then I'll thugs take him.
Starting point is 01:01:00 The fucking thugging on a live show was ridiculous. No, that would be the most suspect scene ever. We got two more stories to talk about Before we get to hot takes Spencer Haywood Former Seattle Super Sonics legend Said me and Kevin Durant Are still talking about Seattle
Starting point is 01:01:16 There's some sneaky stuff going on That I can't talk about because it's private But I wouldn't be surprised If I see him in a Sonic's uniform again Interesting Because the worst kept secret in the league right now Is the Seattle will be getting an expansion In the next two years or so
Starting point is 01:01:30 Once they get to doing that after the TV rights deal Would you all want to see Kevin Durant Go back to that team? Of course. What who fan would not want to see that, bro? Bro. Stay somewhere. Please.
Starting point is 01:01:43 Finish your career somewhere. Stop moving. Not moving. Stay. You're just a busy body. Stay where you're out. Busy body. If you did this, I imagine it would be as like a retirement home thing.
Starting point is 01:01:57 It would be cool. Yeah. I was a person. Me personally, if I want to see him in his retirement home stage, it's probably like, a cool 17 points per game which is insane for him I want to see him go back to okay C let's solidify if you're gonna do what you've been doing
Starting point is 01:02:13 be consistent to I want to be on the best team possible go ahead and join okay C it makes sense just more ring chasing hell yeah and they're right not going to him in Seattle would be cool obviously it's an expansion team they're not gonna be fucking winning a championship year one or two or anything like that but if he somehow managed to win a championship
Starting point is 01:02:31 as like a 39 year old with Seattle team I drafted him that would save his fucking legacy We wouldn't, he might be fucking top 10 if he did that, bro. He would have to have. He wouldn't, he would be like, he would skyrocket and change the entire narrative. Well, not change the narrative by him, but make it seem a lot better about him, bro. That's like the most fun fan fiction I could think of for like any star players. Like, that would be the funniest or coolest outcome.
Starting point is 01:02:58 Donovan's over the grimacing. He just doesn't like to think of anything good happened to Kevin Durant's life. This is never going to happen. Obviously not. And there's one more story before hot takes, y'all. We're almost there. Almost at the hot takes. This is another Gilbert Arenas thing.
Starting point is 01:03:13 This one isn't so ridiculous, though. So I'm not going to be slandering him this time. On the nightcap, he said he doesn't think that LeBron will get a statue in a Lakers uniform. He doesn't have enough accolades. Do you all agree? That's facts. I do agree. That's easy.
Starting point is 01:03:28 If LeBron won, like, an MVP there, regular season MVP, and, like, a championship, which you already has, then it's like, okay, you have a little bit more. legitimacy for it but he hasn't done that he has broken records of course carems and then he you know what i'm saying only player in NBA history hit 40k it's nice but for lake for laker standards you got to have some like multiple multiple trophies yeah they got a lot of players of hardware over there exactly i i agree i think for somebody i think for somebody who came to the lakers in like the second half of their career it it means a little bit different If LeBron was able to do this maybe five, six years ago,
Starting point is 01:04:10 or I guess we've already been like five, six years into the Lakers tenure. So if he was able to do this about 10 years ago, it would probably feel a little bit different, but this feels like the end of LeBron's career, feels like his retirement chapter. And a lot of the records that he's broken, they're not Lakers' records or anything like that. They are these all-time NBA records,
Starting point is 01:04:32 and it's more about LeBron and his place in the NBA. He's made the most threes in Lakers history, though. That's a Lakers record he broke. Has he really? I believe so. Fact check me if I'm wrong, but I genuinely believe he hit the most threes in Lakers history. Think about, like, Lakers Sharf's. You don't think of any, bro.
Starting point is 01:04:49 No, LeBron's been a shooter since he got there. That makes sense, man. Yeah, Derek Fisher, like, there's not many at all. I don't know, Kobe played for 20 years. Kobe probably has it, right? He does not have it. Oh, okay, I'm looking this up. I'm looking at it.
Starting point is 01:05:00 I'm looking at how many threes Kobe hit. Anyways, yeah. That's the last thing we got there. Y'all, it is time for hot takes. Chat, I'm going to spam. Wait, wait, wait, real quick, real quick. But before we get there, Mo, you're a liar. You're a liar.
Starting point is 01:05:19 Because LeBron is not the all-time leader. It's Kobe Bryant. And LeBron doesn't even have more threes than Derek Fisher. Whoa. I guess I'm a liar then. How many things do LeBron have? How many things is LeBron have in COVID? LeBron is third.
Starting point is 01:05:34 LeBron has 765 threes. Kobe Bryant is first, and Kobe has 1,8273s. Oh, he's not fucking breaking that. Yeah, no. LeBron's top 10, though, right? Yeah, he's third. He's third in Lakers' sister. Damn.
Starting point is 01:05:50 Okay, well, he's third. That's good. Anyways. All right, chat. Let's resume. Chat, it's a time for which y'all came here for. Enough talking about Lakers'3s. Who gives a flying fuck?
Starting point is 01:05:58 We have 936 of y'all in here right now, 6702 likes. And it is time to get to y'all's. hot takes. I made a tweet earlier today telling you all to put your hot takes here and we're going to get to them. I'm going to go through a bunch of those and then we're going to look at one straight from chat. For each woman we get from Twitter, I want you all to spam W or L take every time because we're either going to tell people they know ball or we're going to flame them. Either one. Let's go ahead and do it. I'm ready to tell people their IQ. Shout out to JRM 37. He has three $1 donations. He's going crazy. Appreciate y'all. NJ. Tip to
Starting point is 01:06:30 $1.00. It's a Cam Thomas is a top 10 score. incorrect but I appreciate your love for him and uh mummo tip $4.50 said I need proof mo I need to see the ballistics ballistics okay that conversation is past time let's move forward
Starting point is 01:06:44 and shout out to NADOC for one dollar first hot take of the day Donovan Mitchell is a top 10 player and better than Devin Booker I've been so back and forth on this conversation and I think for the most part, almost every single year
Starting point is 01:07:04 Devin Booker's career, he's been better than Donovan Mitchell. But this year has been the closest that it's ever been, I feel like, because of the playmaking leap that Donovan Mitchon has made compared to Devin Booker always having that part of his game, or at least
Starting point is 01:07:19 over the last like three, four, three years. So, ah, man, that's tough. It's an L take. Listen, D. Book is playing with K.D. He's not asked to do as much. He's the point guard, basically, and has other people up. So he's just not having the crazy score numbers he once did. Meanwhile, Donovan Mitchell was carrying an injured team
Starting point is 01:07:36 and having to put the team on his motherfucking back. So he's obviously in the news for playing above where he was doing last year. It's just a matter of perception there. We all know Devin Booker's still the better player, I think. Yeah. I think it's easy to discredit Booker because, I mean, a lot of people
Starting point is 01:07:51 don't like him for some reason, whether it be the double team thing back in 2018 or whatever or just like how he talks trash and people think he's a front runner. but I still think I think it's close this is more this is the most
Starting point is 01:08:04 it's ever been of a competition between those teams I still might it's a competition for sure I just think D-book's a better passer and he's a better defender
Starting point is 01:08:12 while they're both obviously elite scores you can decide who you think is better there I'm a lean D-book but it is close it's like the 11th versus the 14th best
Starting point is 01:08:19 playing the league right so you're in the same stratosphere either way yeah Roger Federal's said Trey Young plus one being would be a top two
Starting point is 01:08:27 duo in the league that's facts that's facts who's the best doing the league right now Yokic and Jamal Murray bro if you have someone who can be the best player in the NBA alongside
Starting point is 01:08:38 I guess Jamal Murray can turn into like a top 15 to 10 player whenever you got his peak two but Trey Young Playoff Marry is a fucking Hall of Fame player He's he's like top 15 it doesn't make sense to me
Starting point is 01:08:51 where I'm sorry I don't make the rules but that is what he is We thought Yonis and Dame would be this unbeatable duo Trey and Wembe might be that nobody's falling off at age cliff anytime soon with these two relax he's not on leaving on the team god damn listen what would happen
Starting point is 01:09:07 yeah it's theoretical you guys know what you do and you are my feelings I'm seeing a lot of w takes in the chat they like this one donovan where you sit I agree with this top top two yes yeah maybe Jason Tatum and Jalen deserve to be above them at first with all the winning they do sure let's be honest no no no I mean Jason Tate is a top of seven player
Starting point is 01:09:27 and Jalen Brown is as good as Trey Young, but it's not a crazy leap there. They deserve it, but top three isn't bad. If they lose in the playoffs, I cannot give them top two duo in the league. Well, we'll see what happens.
Starting point is 01:09:43 I don't know. Many people think they won't lose in the playoffs, so maybe we have to give it to him for now. Next one. Tanny, this is one of our Discord mod, shout out Tanny. He keeps a Discord. It helps keep the Discord afloat because I do not be looking at that. He says, Luka Donchich will not win MVP in his career
Starting point is 01:10:01 because Yokic is here to stay and then Wembe will dominate until Luca falls out of his prime. What a scary thought for Luca Dantz. He might just be victims the two best bigs we're ever going to see in our lifetime and he'll never win an MVP. He's going to get him. I think Luca's going to, my bad.
Starting point is 01:10:16 Luca's going to surpass Yokch at a certain time frame either because people are going to be like just straight out tired of Yokich for whatever reason. And I think eventually the time will come when the Mavs go ahead and have their run. If the Mavericks had this roster construction right now,
Starting point is 01:10:34 I think they're like along with the Clippers O KC in the Minnesota Timberl's in terms of standings. But they surrounded Luke with poo-poo platter. So, you know what I'm saying? I think I think Luke's time will come, just not this year. I think he'll win it as soon as he leaves the Mavs in four years or whatever maybe when he's like, well, he was in 25 now. When he's like 29, peak of his prime, he leaves him to join another team and finally
Starting point is 01:10:57 has a great team around him. they run to a one seed and do whatever when he finally has like real talent he's gonna get one at least if he he's he's getting one in his in his career i i promise you that if he leaves the mass bro that'll be one of the most hilarious things and that we need to do a case study we do a case study of each and every single move they made his roster is so bad around him that we threw a fucking parade when he got the backup center from the wizards and the draft bus power forward from the Charlotte Hornets. We were like, yes, go, yes, talents.
Starting point is 01:11:32 Great. These aren't scholars. He doesn't need much. These aren't even high-level players. Yeah, that's a testament to how great he is. And also how shitty things have been around him, bro. Yeah. I'm being reductive.
Starting point is 01:11:44 They're better than that. I understand, for sure. PJ Washington isn't fantastic, right? There's a reason he's not on the Hornets. Yeah, no. And they get also at the same time, it's kind of like, when you take a step back from those trades, you look at what they gave up for,
Starting point is 01:11:56 B.J. Washington, it's like, ooh, shit. It's another pick out the window. We'll see. It's good for now. We'll see all ages. No combos yet. If the Nuggets win the championship, Yokic is a top five center of all time. Axe. Off the top. It's in no order.
Starting point is 01:12:18 Shack, Russell, Kareem, Hakeem. Well. I love Bill. Will Russell, more than anybody in this planet. I don't think that's true. I'm not, whatever you want to believe it. What do you want to believe?
Starting point is 01:12:36 He's just, I just can't put him in that top five conversation over Yocus. I just can't do it. The question is, will he pass Akeem? Hakeens probably the fifth best center right now. Why are you disrespecting the, like, fourth best center on that list? I'm not disrespecting him. Maybe even third. I'm not disrespecting him at all.
Starting point is 01:12:55 He's probably number five, right? you name four of the people. He's five, which is no slight. Do you think he'll get pass to him? Whatever. Do you think he'll pass Bill Russell? Do you think he'll pass Bill Russell or Hakeem for four and five? Russell or Will. What are we talking about? Oh my God, whatever. Do you think he'll pass that group of players and get into that? What do we do? I'm just not going to say here let you disrespect Hakeem like that. But not, I mean, he's not. You say like, Hakeem is his big homie. He knows him for real.
Starting point is 01:13:25 It's glazing He's the guy He'll be in that realm though Right Chat what do you all think WRL chat What did you said I said
Starting point is 01:13:36 I said he's still You know In the city He's still active He's still active He still move around Like he's still move around Like he's moving weight
Starting point is 01:13:42 Damn I want to see what y'all think For this one In the meantime I got some don'tos Shout out to Mr. Mr. Raul Sharke 27 He said
Starting point is 01:13:52 Isaac don't ever disrespect Chicago Bulls legend Daniel Gaffer like that again Did Jason kids Fucking an awful coach He needs to figure out to play him Because he's been so consistent With his use of him
Starting point is 01:14:01 JRM 37 tip 3 dollars He actually till needed like five in total Because he spanned up in random donations Appreciate you And Momo tips another $4.50 cents Appreciate y'all Shout out to you guys man Next one
Starting point is 01:14:15 Now today Love to see it Wembe will be a top eight player next season And at some point in his career He will average 3010 5 and 5 And I assume that last five is blocks I can't get to five blocks Unless like the defensive rule changed in the NBA
Starting point is 01:14:30 And he can stay in the paint forever Then sure I absolutely can think that's possible Top eight though I'm with that I'm with that That's deep but I'm with that By the end of next season
Starting point is 01:14:40 So listen Same thing we did with the last conversation With all NBA If we're gonna talk about this We gotta talk about who else is in there Project the next season Yokic and Bid Yonis are going nowhere Shea Jason Tatum going nowhere
Starting point is 01:14:53 Curry do you think it'll still be a Luca six that's top six is solidified Luca I mean Curry KD and LeBron do you think those three are still going to be at this level to come next year let me tell you something should take LeBron out to be safe we're not talking top eight oh my God we're not talking top eight we're talking top five We're talking top five with this guy I by the end of next season and I don't I'm not going to stand on it right now but if we're going to make a leap like this
Starting point is 01:15:26 and say he's going to be top 10, it's taking a step further, right? Let's be bold. He's not going to be top five. I'm not going to that far. We're talking about that five. I think that one, at some time in his career, like Mo said,
Starting point is 01:15:39 because it does look like the NBA is going to go towards changing some of these rules. And if they do allow the 7 foot five dude with the 8 foot wingspan to just stand in the paint and just do this for 48 minutes, yeah, he got it. 30 10 and 5 is like Mark that that's solidified
Starting point is 01:15:57 He can be top 10 for sure Five is a little hard to imagine Because we have those three MVP candidate bigs Plus Shea and Luca Those guys aren't going anywhere Unless you're going to think That he's going to be as good as MVP Joelle Embed who is on pace
Starting point is 01:16:09 For the greatest scoring season In modern NBA history Will also be an elite defender Unless you think he's going to walk into that year too Hard to project that right away You know like I'll give him another year Before I go that for What if I think that?
Starting point is 01:16:20 oh great what if i believe that about what if i believe that about victor women yama i believe he'll be there when he's 22 then what not what i'll be talking about you're gonna pull up a gun
Starting point is 01:16:35 then what basketball man do your dips he's ass I'm sad eight go ahead go ahead that's hilarious
Starting point is 01:16:50 Yeah, but no, he'll be, I can't, I could see by the end of the next season, him pushing top 10, just like Luca did the end of year two. You know, he made all NBA first team in year two. I could see a similar trajectory for WMB. I'm not going to go back and go crazy with top 10 in the top five. I'll go top eight, though. Yeah, I can see top eight. Here's a good one. I'd rather have Rudy Gobert on my team nine out of ten times over DeMontas a bonus.
Starting point is 01:17:14 Fucking W take, easy W. How do y'all feel? Why did you bookmark this? Exactly. You just wanted to hate on Subbonis. You want to get it off. Real easy. Chop it up.
Starting point is 01:17:27 W take. Now, let me break this down real simple for the crowd. How much am I paying them? The same. Minimum wage for both of them. Yeah, I think about what team will give me the highest ceiling. Rudy Goldberg, he can easily make my team the best defensive team in the NBA with me doing little to no, like, help.
Starting point is 01:17:47 I have to be just fairly confident. DeBontes, with Sabonis, I have to give him some real offensive threats and real firepower. Even with that, I don't think he can lead me to a top five offense. Well, actually, we did kind of see him do it last year. No, he can. But at the same time, what gives me the higher ceiling? I'm leaning towards that defense for sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:08 A Bridal Bear can be part of a good offense. It's almost impossible to imagine DeMontesabonis being a part of a good defense because of how important a center is in your defensive structure. there's very little players of his archetype who are bad rim defenders have no vertical that can be a part of a good defense the only one really does he do it is Nicole Yokic because he's the greatest offensive big man we've seen
Starting point is 01:18:28 in the past 50 years and he's an underweight defender he has size on him which is a big difference in what the bonus has last year he was weirdly listed like 7-1 which was the biggest blow to horse shit I've ever seen in my fucking life that man is 6'10 with the long wingspan no verticality at the rim zero ability to contest at the rim
Starting point is 01:18:43 no foot speed to do anything on switches in the perimeter. He will never be part of a high level defense. You get, you get etched that into stone. You can't say that about where you go bare on offense. He can be a part of something good. He has been. This man hates Sabonis. I hate Sabonis fans, bro. They're so fucking dumb.
Starting point is 01:18:59 They're ridiculous. You're in like fifth grade. God damn. Sabonis fans annoy me so much. He was like, fuck you kid. Get your own dirty. This guy said, Sears the captain said, the sons aren't going to make it through the first round. All right.
Starting point is 01:19:17 Let me pull up the standings. Right now, in the first round, they would play the Minnesota Timberwolves. Hey, they could beat them. They can beat them. If everybody's healthy, they could beat Minnesota. Oh, upset alert? Yeah. Damn.
Starting point is 01:19:33 Uh, I would say the sun's, it's not a lock for sure. It's definitely not a lock. And I wouldn't be as sure as incompetent. Now, they do have Kevin Duran and Devin Booker, who are on most occasions, the one usually the best players on the court but it has to do what you have passed that especially in the playoffs so I could agree with this to a certain degree
Starting point is 01:19:54 this is a W take this is a bold take this is a hot take and it hit it on the money this is a W take for sure I agree W take I think they're getting first rounded I think it's a shame that a team that has Kevin Durant Bradley Beale and Devin Booker isn't seen as like a clear
Starting point is 01:20:10 Western Conference Finals contender I think it goes to show how shit the roster is outside of that, how, you know, we talked about the Thunderhead and the rebounding issues and how Yusuf Nerkich hung up fucking 30 rebounds on them. They're not a good rebounding team either. Like, I'm pretty sure last time I checked, they're also bottom 10 in rebounding,
Starting point is 01:20:27 defensively and offensively. They're not a good defensive team at the rim. They're not good at not committing turnovers, at fourth quarter offense. Like, everything outside of ISO scoring with those three guys, they struggle with. It's kind of crazy, honestly. It is.
Starting point is 01:20:41 Let's talk about getting buckets, though. The game's about a bucket. right i i i think i okay i think that they have the ability to beat minnesota in the in the first i don't think it's as clear cut as they are 100% getting knocked out in the first round i think that they can push them um i think that if like they if they played the the clippers they could potentially be making interesting if they play the nuggets they're getting swept um yeah they they would get destroyed yeah and then if they played if they played the thunder they'd lose in what five maybe six if book goes crazy yeah they go six
Starting point is 01:21:19 Kevin Iran's Kevin around right like I did you said they'd make it interesting I think they'll make all these series interesting I think the Nuggets will blow their back out but outside of that I think they'd make it all interesting they'd probably go six or seven games off the strength of Katie being a goon and Devon Booker being Devin Booker hard to imagine them winning up in a big seven though in the game seven Matt Ispia is going to be so fucking mad and just like insanely he's gonna be so disappointed right so poor Matt Spia. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:47 Shout out to Bourne Muse. Kendrick Bourne Muse is crazy, by the way. He said Celtics won't lose a game in the playoffs. Do you see the Celtics running the table? Sorry, buddy. This is dumb. This is dumb. This is stupid.
Starting point is 01:22:03 Yeah, they're going to lose a game. They are not one of the greatest teams of all times. Who does he think they are? I understand they're elite this season. And in terms of just, like consistency they've been the most consistent team throughout the entirety of the regular season you know but they aren't like 2018 warriors 2017 warriors level of just like how the fuck do you stop this team like Jason Tandam is great Dylan Brown you know what I'm saying he's improved
Starting point is 01:22:31 of course and no one's really talking about that but regards to the fact like they're not unbeatable absolutely yeah so we know there's such a heavy three-point shooting team that they're going to have cold nights we all know this is well documented there is going to be some cold nights so they give up a game here or two in the series will there be that many that it becomes like a tough series maybe not but they had too much variance in their game
Starting point is 01:22:53 to actually go without losing a single one yeah I agree it's just not going to slide it's just not going to slide Lucas 574 to 3009 okay CR is a first round exit I don't even want to address this because of how long his username is
Starting point is 01:23:11 that's just annoying I don't want to do it this next yeah all right sorry Lucas shave some numbers off no it's not a bad take what's a bad true owned by Luca 7-7 lovely no bias here says Luca should be the MVP this season and all of us should agree on that honestly oh really that that's what you think owned by Luca you think you'd be MVP okay surprise surprise chat let us know what you think in that and Meantan Marie some donos. Kevin Gulicki has tipped another $10. He said, hot take, Tatum is the most complete player in the NBA.
Starting point is 01:23:51 Nobody is better than him at everything. Incorrect, but I appreciate your love for your hometown team. Marco tip $1. Kevin, go pack. Go pack, Kevin. I know, I know you haven't packed. You said, I got it bound on the background, man. Let me alone.
Starting point is 01:24:07 Marco tip $1. Would you rather have BAM or sub bonus on your team? Bam. Oh, Bamb. Bamb. A hundred percent. am easy he's someone who's even more complete than rudy gober on the offensive end and on the defensive end considering what he can do on the perimeter
Starting point is 01:24:20 at a much better rate for sure Kevin Gluckie took another $5 before that appreciate you IMN tipped $1 he said the 2024 draft is going to be deeper than people think kind of like 2022 probably all these week drafts are always better than people think because of all the role players and stuff sure nice take I also don't know shit about the 2024 draft yet so I'll take your word for it yeah no expectations are low so like I said is Luca your MVP no you can talk a lot of people into it it makes me sick I can see the case it's not crazy at all yeah all all I'll say is the next
Starting point is 01:24:59 episode of the Isaac Gutierrez show coming out this Thursday is titled Luca Donchish has mastered offense so okay Isaac you said it's coming out this fucking Thursday last time it did not Me? Yes, it did. You were late. No, it wasn't. Yeah, you were. What time did you upload?
Starting point is 01:25:17 It was Thursday, I was like, that was always. It wasn't the same time. You were a minute late. You were a couple of minutes late. I'm going to hold you to that. I just wasn't. Kevin Gluckie donated another $20.
Starting point is 01:25:30 I'm going to start calling him Kevin. It's a mouthful. He said, brother, I am packed and ready to go. First class flying, staying at the four seasons over water bungalow for 10 nights. This guy's just rich as far. night? He's lit.
Starting point is 01:25:43 Chat, I don't know how many of y'all are adults and how many of y'all have paid to go on vacations. Ten nights is ridiculous at the four seasons. It's managed to drop ten bands. The overwater bungalows, I've, listen, I've looked into those, right? This stuff is ridiculous, but I've looked into it for five nights. Ten nights is crazy. This guy is ridiculous.
Starting point is 01:26:05 Listen, I need y'all to watch and watch the stream, subscribe, so I can get as rich as Kevin Gallickey. That's my goal in life right now. Exactly, bro. When I grew up, I want to be like Kevin Galicki in this bitch. God damn. I feel like I might be saying his name wrong. That'd be hilarious, but I'm just in wrong with it. W. from Curry says, the magic are making it to the second round. Do you guys think the magic are going to win their first round series? Considering that right now they would play. No. Cleveland Cavaliers. No. Probably not. That's a good matchup for them because they do like. On paper, doesn't sound like it.
Starting point is 01:26:39 But they do match up well whenever they do face off against them, but it's going to be like a six game max series. Nobody is scoring over 85 points a game in that series. That'd be nasty. 79, 78. Real basketball. Shout out to the Orlando Magic. Yeah, I don't see them make another first round.
Starting point is 01:27:01 Good season, though. Rolando Magic. Orlando Magic. Save the song. Oh, Brick Muse is back. Orlando Magic I think someone in the chat said Brick Muses is back
Starting point is 01:27:13 and he's doubling down What? No way Oh the Kanye tweet was the most recent one What do you say Oh my gosh Can you hear the audio when I play that I can't
Starting point is 01:27:30 No He says I'm not going to say You know I can't say that You know I can't say that That's hilarious That's the end of all the TikTok ones Now is time for chat hot takes Chad, this is what you've all been here for
Starting point is 01:27:46 Spam it up in the chat right now What your hot takes are We're going to react to them First one I see If Damien Lillard Like that's a mall I don't mean nobody's saying Point Zion and Wembe
Starting point is 01:27:57 Are going to be teammates In the next two to four years I doubt it but that'd be sick That'll be absolutely disgusting bro Oh my goodness How do you defend that What the personnel you need to defend victim women Yama and Zion
Starting point is 01:28:10 from a physical standpoint. Who matches up with him? Crow bars. Crow bars. A812 would a switch. A812. Yeah. There's a fire bullets from black ops.
Starting point is 01:28:24 Dragon breath. Fucking Claymores. I wish I got to bounce a betty. He said I wish I got these jokes. No, I don't play. I don't even know if Moe Plos called it yet. I'm probably just talking to the chat. Hot take.
Starting point is 01:28:44 Most is laughing. Facts. He's a good podcaster. Hot take. He knows that I know content. He knows that entertain. Hot take. Nobody should want the number one spot in the West.
Starting point is 01:28:54 It's going to be the hardest road. I don't know about hardest road, but I see your point because right now coming out the plane, we got the Mavs, Lakers, and Warriors. I wouldn't particularly want to play any of those guys in the first round. What do y'all think? Would you want the number one see if you're in the team? I can agree that to some extent. Obviously, it depends on what team you are
Starting point is 01:29:13 unless you're the Denver Nuggets, but like if I'm a team and the team that, if I was in the West, the team that I would love to face in the first round the most or either like the Pelicans or the Kings. Yeah, three and four are going to face those two teams probably. That's, that's a, I mean, having home court in the conference finals means a lot,
Starting point is 01:29:30 especially for the Nuggets who have the ultimate home court advantage. But I would much rather dust off the Kings or Pelicans than have to deal with Curry or LeBron. Yeah, dealing with Curry or LeBron. Ron is a real that's a that's real streaky right there let alone Luca Donchin
Starting point is 01:29:43 yeah that terrifies me that terrifies me that's a good hot take yeah it's a W take let's get that no it's not no it's not it's it's a bad take no we don't have the hardest road
Starting point is 01:29:56 it's not hardest road we don't even know who's going to be there like you should go out and win as many games as possible and do what you have to do because right now six and seven are have the same record, right?
Starting point is 01:30:11 The Mavs are a game back of them. All of them are going to be in the playing and you might try to get two, three, because you don't want to play, you know, the Lakers. They might not make it into the playoffs. And now you get to play somebody else. Either way, you're going to have to play somebody hard. The West is hard.
Starting point is 01:30:28 Win games. And like that's it. Exactly. You're going to be good teams. You want home court advantage every time, especially in the conference finals. Denver's home court advantage is ridiculous. if they have home corner advantage for every playoff series
Starting point is 01:30:39 they're never going to fucking lose as long as they're healthy big difference than not having that and having it yeah that is very true man I mean the altitude is genuine difference so that team specifically based off where they're at fucking helps like a motherfucker bro I got a good hot take so
Starting point is 01:30:54 URR says Kau would be top 10 all time if his knees weren't made out of Plato top 10 all time I don't know about that but he would be pretty high if he never had to deal with that stuff That is very interesting. That is very interesting.
Starting point is 01:31:10 I'm going to go L take on that. But I see the logic. I see where he's going with it. He would have to win at least one regular season MVP to win top 10, at least one. And I don't know if he's his type of player to have that in him. Well, if his knees weren't gone,
Starting point is 01:31:25 then maybe, you know, like he actually plays games. He doesn't do the load management stuff. It could be in the cards. Man. I guess so. I guess so. We got some donation hot takes. I forgot.
Starting point is 01:31:38 I got to read the hot takes from the donos to pay for first advantage. Nick 7 tipped $1, he said, Hot take, the only team that would guarantee to beat the Lakers in a seven-game series
Starting point is 01:31:47 in the West, if fully healthy is the Nuggets. Maybe the Clippers. LeBron and AD are generally the two best players in the court. The team has experienced depth and defense. So basically saying the Nuggets will beat the shed out of them,
Starting point is 01:31:58 maybe the Clippers, but outside of that, the Lakers would stop everybody else. Do you think the Lakers would beat the Clippers? I mean, beat the Thunder and Timberwolves? Not at all. Not at all. Me either.
Starting point is 01:32:07 Me neither. They were able to make the run that they did last year because Rue Hachamora was like, I'm just not going to miss from three, right? And I'm just going to be an elite three-point shooter. And that's not happening again. They are not going to have the shooting necessary to go far in these playoffs.
Starting point is 01:32:28 And they would probably lose to every team outside of the Golden State Warriors in a playoff series. Okay, relax. They're going to beat the fuck out of the people. pelicans and the kings I'll give you the kings because I don't trust them the pelicans maybe they beat the fuck out of the pelicans maybe I think they would
Starting point is 01:32:48 I think they would win in five or six I think because LeBron's obviously can go try hard like he did in the conference in the in season tournament I think they would beat the pelicans with ease he can't do it anymore you can do for one series I don't know about four though if it's like the pelicans I don't know because this pelicans team versus that pelicans team
Starting point is 01:33:06 is very different because off the nature's on this is better in general but um it's a lot different yeah it's a lot different that's on compared to this don't it's different
Starting point is 01:33:17 it was two months ago not two years ago yeah he'll do you know how bro he's cutting hard right now that's what it is the diet is different right now bro he is stupidly locked in so I'm like I don't know
Starting point is 01:33:31 yeah I don't know I don't know it's a day Shout out to Nick 7 for tipping $1. Shout out to Marcelo 17 for tipping $2. Shout to Kevin Gallickey for another $10. Carlos for $3. Carlos, love the name.
Starting point is 01:33:47 And Colocho for $3, who said, Hot Take, the NBA is the most boring of the big four sports. Like, I was talking about baseball and hockey. Get the fuck out my face. Hey, whoa, whoa, no. Listen, I'm not even going to like. Hockey's kind of lit. I'm sure it is.
Starting point is 01:34:01 It is kind of lit. The only thing about hockey that I'm like, bro, be kind of insane if they added this in them, NBA is starting random is like the referees don't call they don't get into like the technicalities of the game they just let people scrap whenever there's like a major disagreements that's hard as hell I think some hockey fans like hate that I think people are like trying to like phase it out of the game really yeah it's like antiquated like why are we doing violence personally it's new to me and I've been obviously I'm a fucking
Starting point is 01:34:30 NBA fan most of the time whenever I'm watching sports so I sit there and I wonder Huh, I wonder what Jose Alvarado would really do to the most random NBA player. Jose Alvarado and Chris Ball, Jose Lepard pulls his pants up. Hi, I ought to get one of these. He's had his elbow up to guard his face, other hand back here. I've seen people like just like him fight all the time. That's how it always is. Elbow's pointing
Starting point is 01:35:04 and shit Oh man Oh man I'm a take Go ahead Will Jr. says LeBron is winning another ring
Starting point is 01:35:16 Before he retires Ha! Laffable That was ridiculous Oh, no, that's crazy They're probably gonna win He's probably going to win another one before the Knicks do
Starting point is 01:35:24 Oh shit The only way He won is if he came to the Knicks The only way Yeah, let's the only way The next one won if they get LeBron or KD or something? He's not winning another one.
Starting point is 01:35:37 They've been begging for scraps for decades. Yeah, that's been a 500 for 15 years. That's crazy. They finally have a healthy LeBron and AD. Can't even make the playoffs. I wish I could say that Knicks finally had a healthy something, but there's nothing like high level enough to like, oh, they have that.
Starting point is 01:35:51 The Knicks are just the Knicks. You guys are fighting for your lives. Come on. Tickets in the same point the Knicks are going to get in their best case scenario. Hold it on the stuff that happened five years ago. If only the Nix has something to hold on to. 1996 was sick. Your best guy.
Starting point is 01:36:08 Your best guy can't stay healthy for too much, three. Matthew tip $10. Appreciate you. He said, Draymond, we'll get a second home in the penalty box. Oh, my God. Kari's left shoe,
Starting point is 01:36:21 said $1, took $1, said hot take. Jason Kidd should have stayed at a top 10 point guard of all time instead of a coach. Correct. He is at his job. I guess the only thing
Starting point is 01:36:31 that the biggest like thing accomplishment that this dude has had on his resume as a head coach is like hey yo I made yonis a point guard and I put the ball on his hands for like 60 games or whatever it is congratulations no one cares and remembers kevin tipped another 15 bucks he said hot take the nicks are going to get first rounded that would be a disappointment that'll be amazing right now they'll play the 76ers listen we'll see what joll and b comes looks like if he comes back at all all. I imagine he probably won't be 100%, even if he makes it back. If he was 100%, that would be spooky. But it's hard to imagine. Lengths and four says, Mo, how do you feel after
Starting point is 01:37:14 getting out of the hood? It's not a hot take. But I don't answer the question regardless of the fact. Feel good. Feel wonderful. Days are beautiful. No rats running around the round at all. I just see beautiful people at D.C. But at the same time, I'm stressed because I don't want to go back. So these don't know's better be hidden. The likes on the guy next thing better be hidden. So it's all good, but I don't want to go back. He's taking the key, my Wata hoodphone, quite literally.
Starting point is 01:37:42 Yeah, yeah, not quite literally, bro. You're funding his psyche, his peace of mind. I paid rent for the first time, like two, three days ago, bro. This shit is crazy. For the first time at D.C., yeah. Yeah, it's disgusting, bro. Someone said, hot take. Luca is the best player in the NBA.
Starting point is 01:37:59 No, because you need team success to get label but I do think he's good enough to be the best player in the NBA it's just you got to see it in the playoffs obviously but I think in terms of skill he's on the same level with those other top three guys all this big man that we all know are always in that conversation yeah one for one I think that's a fair conversation easy for sure donovan yeah yeah I guess I guess my vote tip one dollar his hot take is Prime John Wall is better than Prime D Rose really prime, but the best form of D. Rose, you know, before he got hurt.
Starting point is 01:38:34 And I say that as a big D. Rose fan. They said, also cut me off. I'm going to go broke. Got to ban you from the don't know button. Prime John Wall is better than D. Rose. I don't think so, man. I don't think I can go there. I can understand it because the playmaking, which is like a real difference back then, and also the defense is crazy as well. So if you're getting it from that aspect, fair. But the vibes in the R is immaculated. One to none, bro. Top. MVP D. Rose has top five
Starting point is 01:39:03 or a ever. Fuck you. I don't care what you think. That's fucking factual. Let me be an old head real quick. Let me explain to you guys exactly what prime MVP Derek Rose was, right?
Starting point is 01:39:17 Even in the league that wasn't based around offense. You had Derek Rose with Joaquinoa, Lou All Gang, a young Taj Gibson, right? Not a lot of offense. And Derek Rose, in the first year of Miami in this big three,
Starting point is 01:39:34 and they say not one, not two, not three, not four. They tell the lead that they're going to win eight championships. And Derek Rose says, no, I'm going to win 66 games on your watch. I'm going to have the number one seat, right? We are going to have an amazing defense. I'm going to be the most athletic point guard we've ever seen. You made it sound like D.Ros beat them in the playoffs. Oh, no, no, listen, they got, they got 4-1.
Starting point is 01:39:56 It was crazy. But what Derek was doing, this is ridiculous some people when they get sad they right they go into their room they like to put on Marvin's room I put on old Derek Rose highlights when I get right when I'm in
Starting point is 01:40:13 that move because seeing the talent that was robbed from us is dastardly it's terrible you know it's funny you're an old head at this point you're an old head for saying Marvin's room I don't think anybody in our chat is out here listening to Marvin's room yeah I don't know I don't know
Starting point is 01:40:29 a lot of he's like I don't know what this is head like I don't know what the sad song was I haven't been sad in a long time also Their version of Marvin's dream is Lucid Dreams by Juice World I think RAPE Well I think that actually might be the version of Marvin's room That's crazy
Starting point is 01:40:43 What a different generation I've seen I've already seen the memes about it too Someone said I'm 14 I love Marvin's room There you go man you went back and listened to classics Oh my goodness look at you You were two when that came out
Starting point is 01:40:54 But it's a classic for you A real one Actually you might have been one Yeah you might have won yourself Isn't that crazy crazy. Oh, okay. I was in seventh grade. It's fucking crazy, bro. We're getting lost for real. Somebody said they bumped Marvin's room a couple weeks ago. Listen, only real music is going to last, okay? You got to understand that. You got to understand it.
Starting point is 01:41:17 Donovan, when you're a real old head, you're going to be insufferable, Doc. He already did. You didn't get the reference. You didn't get the reference. And it's okay. The rest of that shit is here today. Gone from. that was hard that was hard that was hard all right what's the next hot take mo you finally got a hot take jays allen says hot take if the spurs don't if the spurs don't get better
Starting point is 01:41:44 wemby's leaving and running away to the sunset with luka and winning a chip spurs fans would be on watch if they did that bro wendy's not leaving for seven years can't happen yeah understand that he's a rookie we don't even talking about him leaving this is ESPN brain rot He's locked down
Starting point is 01:42:03 Can't happen won't happen It's impossible It's destiny bro He's gonna be a spur for 20 years Momot tip $1.00 he said A girl said Marvin's room Is a perfect song for me Is it over for me
Starting point is 01:42:15 My guy you are cooked Woo Well done On the grill Skewered Filet Mignon cooked That's all like Raps buddy
Starting point is 01:42:26 That's all wraps I feel like we should play into the fact of our family's being so young, we should like, just like just have got a segment around it. We gotta do that. I got to think about how to, how to do that,
Starting point is 01:42:38 but some kind of Q&A would be hilarious. That is funny. You know, real. Hey, man. I think that's all the hot things we got today. I think we're done. Yeah. Chat.
Starting point is 01:42:48 Congratulations. You got us to around, let's call it 800 like 79, 700941, sure. But we call it. Congratulations. W. Stream. What must you say?
Starting point is 01:43:01 Some said hot take. Mo's beard is better than Isaacs. We're having a beard off now. They're going to rank the chat beards. Bringing a chat of beards is crazy. I'm not going to lie. I'm being 100% honest. I generally have the weakest beard here.
Starting point is 01:43:14 Genetically. Genetically? My dad let me down, bro. Tough. Well, that's end of the stream. Chat, I guess, while we're closing us off, go ahead and comment who is the best beard? We're out of here.
Starting point is 01:43:29 See you. all.

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