The Deep 3 Podcast - Listing EVERY NBA Team’s Biggest Free Agency Need | Ep. 43

Episode Date: June 30, 2023

Today we break down every NBA team's biggest needs in NBA free agency! Check out the TD3 merch: https://the-deep-3-shop.fourthwall.com/ Listen on Spotify!: https://open.spotify.com/show/3elbbqVumwqz8wlIdknsLW Listen on Apple Podcasts!: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-deep-3-podcast/id1657940794 Follow us on TikTok!: https://www.tiktok.com/@thedeepthree Follow us on Instagram!: https://www.instagram.com/thedeep3podcast/ Isaac's twitter: https://twitter.com/byisaacg Muhamed's twitter: https://twitter.com/Mojo99_ Donnavan's twitter: https://twitter.com/Dsmoot3D 0:00- Intro 1:20- Harden is getting traded 11:00- Kyrie news 14:44- John Collins traded 19:08- T-Wolves extend Naz Reid 25:12- Josh Hart, Vucevic, Harrison Barnes get paid 28:05- Free Agency Needs: teams we aren't talking about 29:35- Mavericks needs 32:48- Rockets needs 37:35- Warriors needs 40:51- Lakers needs 48:37- Pelicans needs 52:10- Grizzlies needs 54:52- Suns needs 57:53- Trailblazers needs 59:56- Clippers needs 1:03:19- T-Wolves needs 1:04:40- Nuggets needs 1:06:12- Celtics needs 1:09:37- Hawk needs 1:13:05- Bulls needs 1:13:54- Cavs needs 1:16:31- Knicks needs 1:19:20- Raptors needs 1:21:17- Pacers needs 1:23:54- Heat needs 1:26:25- Bucks needs 1:28:50- 76ers needs 1:32:40- TikTok time Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

y'all it is my favorite day in the NBA calendar for the day this comes out it is officially the star of NBA free agency I think by the time you all are listening to this free agency will be starting in like four or five hours so today we're going to talk about all the biggest rumors the people that have already signed extensions people have already been waived and then after that we're going to go through and we're going to go by every single NBA team and talk about their biggest need it needs to be filled in free agency this is your favorite day this is the favorite bro bro i fucking love transactions i'm such a

two k nerd exactly i'm such a new age NBA fan it's not really a favorite day but i'm definitely a little slut for trades and stuff like that i'm here for it you see i'm not as big of a fan because trades and all that stuff happens at the most impromed two times like back when kawai linder

got traded it was like 3.4 a m everybody was sleep in fact that was crazy yeah man so also for y'all watching a few days ago we concluded our first round of giveaways for our merch drop we gave away the first hoodie you'll see the guy who wanted on screen can't remember his name right now but by the time this episode comes out we'll have our second giveaway started so if you go to our channel and go to the community tab you'll see a post to give away our first t-shirt so go in there right now or after you

watch a full episode and follow us on Twitter comment do everything you see in the post to try to win that t-shirt good luck these t-shirt's hard they are hard they are they are they're stitched there's clean. All right, let's get into it because some stuff happened today that I'm 100% ready to talk about. Okay, okay. Tell us what the first new square is going to be.

He'll lead us into it. Yes, okay. So James Hardin opted into his player deal. He opted into $35.6 million, but him and the Sixers have basically agreed. He's done there. He's played his last game. They're talking about working with him

to get a trade done. The two teams that came up, the Clippers and the Knicks, which I wasn't very happy to hear that we were interested in traded for James Hardin. But that's kind of the news of the day. And so now everybody's trying to figure out where James Hardin is going to play next.

Yeah. Yeah. So listen. And the Houston thing is also a little bit out of there. I know that was like a big thing at the start of the year. What do you all think about where James Hardin is going to end up? It's interesting because we all have been saying for months now that he wants to go back to Houston and it seemed like the interest is mutual. But yeah, you're right.

This confirms that clearly they and the 76 years both didn't want to commit to him long term. I think that was the hiccup is that he wanted multiple years. in the deal to be like a long-term commitment and they were like listen man your hamstring is mush we're not giving you more than two years so it's interesting because he's not like you said he often exclusively to request a trade i want to see him on the clippers what you think moe yeah you put them on the clippers is going to be all time or all team hospital bed right there like they're not playing any games for real it'll be actually dope and he is he fixes like just about all the problems that they have but overall when i think about like jane

Harden in the last two years of his career this is the third time where he demanded requested a trade and so if I'm any team every team I am not hesitant to give him a contract because it's like or make that trade because he is like an all-time grade and a lot of people overthink things like this but at the same time like how much of your future do you want to compromise for a player like James Harden at this stage of his career I mean that's a crazy thing clearly the 76ers weren't trying to give him that multi-year deal so you Even they agree.

They've had them. And even they who, it's in their best interest to retain their second star, even they're like, we can't rely on this guy for four years. We're not giving him a four year max. That's crazy. I mean, if they're going to get assets for him, then I think it's okay to let go. Now, if he was just to walk, I think obviously like that would be the worst case scenario. But for two straight years, if you're the Sixers, you've had James Hardin in the last game

of the season, be a complete no-show. And if you are on Joel and B trade watch And you are trying to get him a championship You're trying to get him to stay There's already rumblings that Like he's probably going to be the next star to ask out The second guy next to him needs to be able

To pick up the load And to keep going And so it's like If James Hardin is not that guy Then you might as well move on Get some more assets Let Maxie run the team And we'll figure this out later

Yeah The thing is though They're going to get assets back for him but they're not going to be good assets like if he's going to the clippers the team that wants them like a norm powell terence mann and zubach like is that going to be enough to make joel and b want to stay there is there no is there no scenario that yaw see in which paul george gets to the sixers absolutely not no i would not do that at all like for one year james hardin hell no yeah and over the last few years like i don't want to say that paul george has been better than james

starting but there's no needle moving in my mind even if you do swap it yeah hmm yeah that's that's interesting i just think for james for james and i know that he hasn't been as as durable but for the clippers it makes sense it makes sense just because their guys really really haven't been durable and but you're just banking a lot on guys who just don't show up one way or another and so that's why i just don't i understand why the clippers want to go after James Hardin, they feel like they need another piece, right? As insurance for Kauai because he can't play three games in the playoffs without his knee falling apart, but that can't be the guy that you're going for.

I just just with the with the two stars that you already have like we've said and their inability to be on the court at any major moment, why would you add another guy who might be there but he his play is going to act like he's not there at all. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, they're desperate, right? Like, they, people were talking about after this last playoff run, you can't rely on Paul George or Kauai whatsoever.

Even Jerry West said that on Paul George's pod. So it's pure desperation. Like, they have to do something different to give them a chance because it hasn't been working, right? Like, whether it be for on-court reasons, like in the bubble or healthy reasons like we've seen after, they're like, we've got to make a big swing. And maybe the vision is, if we have two stars who can't stay healthy, a third star gives us some insurance for that. Because even if one's out, we're going to have two other guys.

The issue with that, though, is like Hardin is not real insurance because of the injury issues. Like, in general, yes, he is because of his play style and his ability to, like, carry a low-ceiling team who's depleted to the stars. So even that, it's like, there's a nick in that in which I don't believe in that if you're going to trade for James Harden, I think you're trading him for, or you're getting him for the wrong reasons. Like if it was five years ago or six, seven, eight years ago, yeah, for sure. It makes complete sense. He can do that on a consistent basis, but he hasn't shown that over the past year, year and a half. So I don't know.

They've tried this with like, the point guard officers they had over the last few years has been Rondo, blah, James Hart, or John Wall, blah, Russell Westbrook. And actually it was pretty good. And he helped win them a game in the most awkward way ever in the playoffs. But still, like, blah, you know, so I don't know. I think this is just an all-time Clippers move if they do this. That's a great way to describe it. Facts.

Okay, well, Donovan, you said you, when you saw the Knicks were in there. Why don't you want him with the Knicks? We have Jalen Brunson. Like, you already have a point guard who you're putting the entire offense on, and he's much younger, much cheaper, and you won a playoff series with him being the best player on the team. Everybody else can go. right it's very clear that jalen brunson is the star and the leader of this team and now it's about how are you going to fill the team around him and i don't think that having james hard

next to jaylinson is a smart thing to do i think i think the best thing to do is to figure out how do you get julius randall about the paint right how do you get him how do you get him for how do you get him on another team where you can get somebody who's a little bit more reliable somebody who can move the offense a little bit better than he can. And just somebody that you feel that you can trust a little bit because no matter what Julius Randall does, I think from this point on, we're going to get to the playoffs and all Nick fans are going to be looking around

and just every game holding their breath on, are we going to get the Julius Randall that we've seen all year, the one that, you know, snuck into all-N-B-A, the All-Star version, or are we going to get two-for-14 in an elimination game? Like, what's happening? And James Hardin just feels redundant with Jalen Brunson there. And especially with Brunson Elevating and peaking

Or not even peaking But just elevating the way he was this year That makes a total sense Yeah I don't hate the idea of him and Jalen Brunson But I don't love it either For the reasons you said It would put Harden Moore

Back to his old two guard days When he was playing originally Before Mike Dantony made him The full-time point guard Sure I guess But his biggest strength at this point is his passing So I don't really see the vision I'm talking about it

Need a final way to get him to Minnesota Get Cat out the paint Get James Harder into Minnesota You want to see Cat in Joelle and Beat? Listen, it's going to have to be a three-teammer Everybody hop on the NBA trade machines Send us some trades Figure out a way to get James Harder into Minnesota

Because that would Off the top of my head That's the only thing that's making sense right now Yeah, that's it All right Let's move on to the other guard that's been in the news Other starred caliber guard Kyrie.

Wait, real quick Like, just real quick If James Harden does, does get moved, like, that has to mean that Joel and Bede's future over there for the 76ers, like, it has to be, like, ticking and running, right? Oh, yeah, it puts them on the clock immediately because then it makes, because then it makes this next season, it's going to be MBEed Maxie and Tobias Harris. And if you don't have any other assets to go to go get, like, a legitimate start, like,

you're banking a lot on Tyrese Maxie making a huge, huge jump. And I think we all love Tyrese Maxie, but do we think that he's going to be a, a. you know all-MBA type player this next year and like the caliber that you need to win a championship i do not probably not not his bag yeah so what's what's going on with the sixes what are we doing if james hardin walks like yeah and beats on the clock after that yeah i'm taw jazz utah jas oklahoma city thunder hell maybe even the new war on spalikins all the teams who has hella picks this is your time to shine this is the guy who will try catching him yeah yeah it's definitely I don't think he's the type of guy

to request a trade like immediately but he's going to go in the next season he's going to have Tobias Harris Bies number two scoring 22 points per game instead of 20 and not shit's going to change and he's going to be on that clock real fast like you said maybe next trade deadline we're going to see some movement I love to see it

now let's move on to the other guard that's in the news Kyrie Irving he's officially visiting with other teams exploring his free agency route it came out today that he's meeting with the sons and what was the team? I can't remember.

Was it the Sons and Mavs? I can't remember. But anyway, anyways. Okay, well, the interesting part here is the Sons, obviously, because they trade for Bradley Biel. So they have K.D., Booker, Bradley Biel, Aiton, and a bunch of minimums.

So they're interested in Kyrie Irving, which screams to me just Kyrie Irving doing that for leverage against the Mavs because he knows his sons can't get them. The only way the sons could get them is if you signed a minimum contract or if they signed and traded him for Aiton and he'd still take a fat pay cut

which for all we know from what we know that's his prerogative is to get paid that's why he requested trade from the nets so hard to imagine he'd go to the sons for the minimum oh no he's there's absolutely no way he signed no way yeah he's not a ring chaser he's fucking 29 that would say

a crazy president if if Stars just started signing veteran minimums to team up to make all some teams that doesn't make any sense my thing with kai re's like if you're going to do this. I don't know if the news was real or fake, probably is real because it came from Chris Haynes. Like,

why not be more realistic with this? Because at this point, like, you're sending the wrong type of message because of the type of team that you're going towards. Yeah. So it's like I don't know, man. Yeah, like I said, it just seems like he's going to be with the Mavs and it's a negotiation tactic

to see if he can get the full four or five years that he wants. Because I imagine the Mavs want to give him a smaller commitment because he's Kyrie Irving. Yeah, but I don't But there's no reason for Kyrie to do this. He has the leverage in the situation. The MAVs traded all of these assets to go get Kyrie. And if he walked for nothing, like,

then the MAVs themselves would be in a terrible position because then you would have Luca with literally absolutely nobody. And so I think Hyrie has enough leverage in the situation to get the money he wants, maybe even to get the years and get the most ideal contract. but he doesn't need to be doing this. And the Sons, it would be so stupid for the Sons to trade, to trade their center to go get another guard

and they really have absolutely no depth whatsoever. Pure bucket getters. It'd be hilarious. It's awful. Team USA, it would just be ridiculous the way they'd be playing. Not even Team USA, just NBA Street. That's all it would be. It's not a good idea.

Someone said it would be the all-time, oh, go do his ass team. Yeah, that's an accurate description. Yeah, man. I don't even want to talk about it. Like, Kyrie's going to be Mab. I think we all agree on that, right? Yeah, just a troll.

I saw a report that the Heat are putting their interest toward trying to get him instead of Lillard. Maybe the heat could pull off a sign and trade of some sort. I wouldn't hate that if they could do some kind of hero Robinson picks for Kyrie if he was dead set on leaving. But we also saw reports... I think that would be a fantastic move.

Yeah, it'd be dope, right? But we also saw some reports. I don't know how true they are if it comes down to it. apparently the Mavs aren't willing to facilitate a trade for him. So maybe if it come down to losing him for nothing, they would do it. But they're probably not interested. That's one, one, that's just petty on the Mavs part. Two, I would pay money to see how Pat Riley interacts with Kyrie Irving.

Pat Riding, and the heat and the most, we're just going to put our head down and go to work franchise with Kyrie Irving, who does absolutely whatever he wants. Please let me know what that initial conversation looks like, because that would be the funniest thing I've ever seen. Yeah, man. Let's fly through these new stories real quick so we can get to the bed and butter. Next thing is Mo's Hawks traded John Collins finally. After years of being on the trade block, we've heard a thousand stories about how he's

available, but it never gets done. It finally got done. And the return, jack shit. They traded him as a salary dump, got basically literally nothing in return, and got rid of him to be under the luxury tax and not hit the new safe not hit the new second apron in the cb a so mo how do you feel whole entire cb a is doing is exposing how good of a game these gms have holistically not only do you have to be really nice at drafting which the hawks were pretty good at drafting if not like a plus you got to give them like b plus because they did everything pretty much

that they're supposed to do except forget luka but when it comes to like these contracts and after that 21 run, you know, they just started giving out contracts to everyone, like we were open, like, fucking Travis Singh was literally Oprah, like DeAndre Hunter, you get a contract, uh, 14 points per game. Oh, John Collins, go ahead. You get a contract. Quincapella, you get a contract. It was just kind of OD, you know, and so this is just like, it was insane mismanagement

that was being done when it came to the business aspect of the Hawks. and on top of that, they waited way too long in order to get off of John Collins. It should trade him and pick a peak of his powers and finessed a team, but instead you put your team in literally a headlock from hell and now you're just throwing him away for Rudy Gay, who he tried to get a couple years ago,

and now we finally have him when he's there. So, this is a punch of the stomach. Yeah, it sucks. Like, you're right, like, on one hand, they don't need John Collins. They have too many bodies. They can unleash AJ Griffin, Jalen Johnson, kind of like all those young guys, he had more run. John Collins wasn't being best utilized

next to Trey Young and John T. Murray. He's just not the right fit. So getting rid of him is fine. But like he said, if they traded him a year ago or two years ago, they could have got two first-round picks on a young player. So they'll wait too long and get nothing for him. It's just like at some point it's a sunk cost, I guess. But like you said, mismanagement,

just a terrible move. There's no way to justify it. Yeah, exactly. this is just like what has to happen at this point and this the hawks are going to be the only team who does makes these types of move like a lot of jams past moves are going to be ex are going to be exposed um and so yeah as a hawks fan like this you do this because like a you're playing is a you're going to let jalen johnson get some serious doing him because he has real talent that works in the type of offense that you'd like to run with trey young in a perfect world but

this world ain't perfect especially trey young's game him like, I have the ball in his hands all the time. But regards this fact, Dylan Johnson can hoop. AJ Griffin, like you said, can seriously hoop. And you have that option, okay, to fall back on. But really, option A might be past Galsiakum. I saw those rumors.

As soon as I saw that tweet up on my Twitter for you page, I was on my knees praying to God on a glorious Sunday or Saturday. So there are multiple moves to be made after this. And with the Hawks and all of the Hawks, fans out there like just got to take to the chest we lost our heart our soul our leader but it is what it is word yes he was

the heart of that team easily that's great our producer so we have a producer now who's running this camera you're seeing right now our guy Nikiel just pulled up Bose tweet this is on my knees this glorious Saturday praying the hawks

at Pascal Seahko he was not lying his ass was on his knees yeah exactly That's hilarious Yeah man Terrible move If if if

Because Fredman police Probably will leave the Raptors If that happens There would be a snowball effect Where maybe they'll trade to see Akum But that happens cool You guys have a good chance Of getting them

If not Your team has got worse For monetary reasons And it sucks to be a Hawks fan right now Well Brighter side of things Jaylan Johnson gets to get some more burn Which I'm a fan of

Nice You could have both But great Yeah Maybe it's addition by subtraction You never know They're not going to be that much worse, realistically. It's just bad asset management.

Yeah, exactly. Let's move on to something else. Another transaction, the Timberwolves extended Nas Reid. Three years, $42 million. What a buyer? His agent. What do they hire his agent, bro? Yeah.

On one hand, Nause Reed got paid. Good for him. Yeah. It's a steal for the Timberwolves. That's great value for somebody who I keep saying, if he was able to get a starting position, would be like, not an all-star, but like a high-level role player.

just under sub all-star level. So to get him for that price is a steal. But they're $140 million a year tied up in three centers. What are they doing? They have to be preparing. And this is why I'm taking that. One of those guys is getting moved, right? Either cat or go bear, they have to get moved at this point.

And I don't know. I think that they're going to go into the season next year and think that, hey, we missed 51 games of cat. there wasn't a lot of time to gel. Let's give this core a legitimate chance to thrive. Us on the outside, right, when we're not delusional, we can see that that core is not going to do anything serious. That that is just for fun, right?

That was the idea. Listen, that was just an idea. It was a science experiment. It's not going to work, but they're going to commit to that. They need to get cat about the pain. That needs to happen. Fully turned the keys over to Anthony Edwards and go. and go get some assets back from Kat

and then we can start this rebuild But that was That move is so weird That I just don't believe that a team can be And even though that we've seen teams be that dumb I don't think that I don't think that the Timberwolves are going to be that stupid Yeah

I agree they should trade cat But it's say they don't want to trade Kat It was that or lose Nasri for nothing Because he was a really hot free agent target it so where's his scenario they extended him got him on a very tradable deal and in this coming season they can trade him for a wing piece or whatever it needs to be but like what's the outcome here like you let him walk for nothing then you're not going to have cap space you're not going to be a team that can like sign a star or anything so either no matter what you do done the line you

might as well extend him like you don't exactly you just get worse by not doing so exactly they did exactly what they were supposed to do you don't let nazaree rock especially for that type of deal and absolutely steal of a contract especially when he comes to his position like the list of free agents is very bleak and he was easy to one of the top three at his position that teams are feigning for young can can do a lot of off the dribble stuff undrafted like he's just exactly what you want when he comes to high quality role or starting player and so for the minnesota timbrels i said this i think midway or 2035 games into the until like last season that because of this Rudy go bear trade, they're going to have to move

car Anthony towns and with the new state of the NBA and towards the end of car Anthony Towns's current contract or whenever is new thing kicks or whatever, I think he's going to be making like $55, $60 million, which is $60 million. God, not out of my bank account. And then Rudy Gober gets 39. That's terrible. That's awful. Yeah. So they're either going to trade cat in the coming weeks, which has been a lot of rumors about. I think those rumors are more like wishful thinking because everyone's like, it's the next logical step. We want to see a star traded, like get them out of here. But realistically, I think they go in the next year the same and see what happens.

And at the deadline, if it doesn't work out, they trade cat. If it is working and they're pretty solid, they trade Nas Reed for a wing. I think that's kind of the play is you hold both for now because you're going to have the same rotation as last year with Nasree as a backup. He's overqualified for that position, but you maintain good depth. And then you move one later down the line. That's tough. That's tough because next year, the Western Conference, there's a couple teams that are going to be right back into the mix. And for the Timberwolves who made the play in, there's a very, very good chance that they are out of the playing race next year. Like, at the end of the season, it just, it. And they trade cat. They do. But it's funny because

not, like you said, you have Nas Reid a very good player on a tradable contract. And then you have Carl Anthony Towns who's not 30 yet. And you have two really, really tradable assets and you might not trade either and i just stuck in mid yeah it's a it's a weird deal yeah they could trade both too if the deadline comes next year and they're crap again really shake it out they could trade they could trade cat somewhere get a haul for him because he's still valuable a team that to convince himself that he's gonna be that what's that my part they'll get some young pieces some picks and they trade naws reed for a wing maybe the maybe the trailblazers is just looking decent they need a big they trade him for jeremy grant all of a sudden you have ruddy gobert grant uh edwards

whoever get for Kat, like that could give them a new timeline for a young team around aunt and still have a great center to put next to them. Like, it's weird

that they have three stars, three big so they're paying good money but it gives them options. I think, yeah, I think the thing about this trade is that it has to be a two-parter. Like this one, or this signing,

the Nazari signing only makes sense and it's only a good deal. There's another move behind it in which you can, you know, loosen up that rotation. Yeah. car anthony towns you are going to be a washington wizard like the washington wizards they need to go ahead and pull the trigger because

you know like what type of motion are they going to be making alongside you're talking you're a fuck around the cat be a hawk okay let's relax that is relax that is that cat for dejante murray and a j griffin hey never we're cooking we're cooking get him away get him away cat and tray pick and roll it's pretty unguarded Yeah, what do they do on the defensive end? Leave me alone. Oh, you're going to Kong with the floor, mopping it up? I don't know.

No way. Listen, you could do worse. You could do a lot worse. Yeah. I'm good. I'd rather be in the lottery. Before we move on to the going team by team talking about the needs, we have three transactions I want to highlight real fast and move on.

Okay. First off, Josh Hart off the news contract. He's going to be a Nick for one more year. Cool. Yes, sir. Very happy. good place there good for him yeah i hope he gets paid though hope they extend him because he should probably get some long-term security a hundred percent i want i want i want josh harrow on my team

for a long long time nice next one just happened a couple hours ago harrison barns got a fat extension with the kings three years a little bit over overpay he's kind of cooked but how much is it for three years was it 54 actually blank i'm not sure it's 54 million yeah so around like 18ish a year yeah actually i guess that's fine you're not getting a whole lot of him these days it's that's a fine value yeah i think that's that's that's that's straight even though in my mind i think that they probably shouldn't have done that because it's like how much more can harrison barns do for your organization unless you want to maintain a level of consistency yeah that's what it is get him out of there cool but yeah they just want the continuity he's a big part in turning them around

there's rumors they're going after kail kuzma which we'll get to a lot of people are but i guess i decided to go continuity kuzma's probably looking elsewhere probably the rocket throwing fat money at him i'm not mad at it yeah i'm cool i'm cool with it yeah last one the funny one the bulls extended to kola vucevich for three years 60 million dollars and they're committed to being mid you listen i i have no idea what to say they just like being where they are and shout out to vuch right 20 mil it's pretty good it's just it's it's a very chicago bulls contract at this point they just like to be in the situation they're probably going to be in the nine or ten seed again next year they're going to be in the play in maybe convinced themselves

that they can make some type of run i don't know i don't know it's just like it's just not a lot of other things to do with them yeah man this team is so fucking uninteresting i just want to say it so we can laugh at them but i do not care about the team whatsoever until they decide to trade Zach Levine, I don't care about this team. Yeah, exactly. It's like they've just been dragging it over the last few months, and they're starting to give me, like, I don't want to say it because it sounds harsh, but like Wizards vibe.

Any chance that I get to, like, take a jab at the Wizards, I'm doing it clearly. But it makes complete sense. Like, they're just dragging along this process, and they're not eating the elves that they took back when they traded away, not larry marketing but window carter junior in exchange for nikola lucivich which at the time was like a good trade for a lot of people but now obviously like development

age horribly yeah yeah exactly age like milk horrible yeah man the bulls suck they're going to keep sucking let's move on all right what's next we're going to do the thing the title is named after we're going to go through every NBA team and talk about the biggest need in free agency let's go so we'll talk about specific moves they should make holes they got to fill, all that. And I said every NBA team, but I lied.

There is 10. We are cappers. We're a Kappers. I'm a clickbader at heart. I always will be. There is 10 teams we're going to talk about off top that we're not going to talk about because free agencies isn't that relevant to them this year, whether they're rebuilding or don't have any moves to make.

They're just not much to say. So those 10 teams are the Detroit Pistons. You know, Yon Kour, not going to make any big splashes. Utah Jazz. San Antonio Spurs. Washington Wizards Hornets, Nets and Kings

the Kings are there because they just did the Harrison Barnes thing so we know they're moved they're kind of done other than that they're going to

retain continuity but the rest of those teams you get it they're the rebuilding teams that are just going to take on bad contracts through the normal

rebuilding team thing but they're not signing anybody that matters yeah that sounds good I think and out of all those teams obviously like

the spurs are probably the most interesting just because they have Wemby and so Listen, we will be tapped in on Wimby Watch all year. Summer League is coming up. Those matchups are going to be very highly touted. I'm excited, but yeah, outside of that, there's nothing.

Yeah, we're good on them. For free agency talks, we're good. We're going to do the Western Conference first. We'll start with that. What is the biggest need of the Dallas Mavericks in free agency? Bodies, defense. A hundred percent, yeah. Depth?

Are we going to call it depth? exactly yeah defensive depth because i don't i don't think that they need they don't need to go out and get guys who can just get bucket so even it would be nice to have a lot of shooters but obviously those are at a premium but when your back court is lucca and kairi you need all the defense around them to make them any type of credible and so that should be priority one so so yeah i would say defensive depth for the dallas mavericks i agree so specific on the wings you know they lost Dorian Finney Smith and that Kyrie trade and they never recovered.

They've been linked to some interesting names because they have their full mid-level exception, which means they can offer a player $12 million and it won't count against the cap. They were linked to Bruce Brown this morning. Everybody is. Everybody wants Bruce Brown. And Dylan Brooks, which it's fucking Dylan Brooks, but it's a good fit. If he's going to go somewhere for $12 million,

I don't hate him on the Mavericks. Yeah, that's that's an interesting one. I wonder how I'm very curious to see how Dylan Brooks integrates himself onto another team and just how he carries himself

and how he moves himself because like he is going to be you know this like in and the kills pulling up crazy pictures of Dylan Brooks I can't focus

but he this forehead is crazy on here when you guys see this it's going to be crazy but like Dylan Brooks is trying to be a three three and d guy and like kind of a culture guy Dallas doesn't really have that so

maybe maybe that's a plus maybe he's he's going to be able to go over there and install some type of like goon into into the Mavericks which might be what they need yeah yeah maybe it'll just be him yeah oh man yeah I like that move overall but just make it simple point bank here point point blank period when I think of Dylan Brooks and on the Dallas Mavericks Of course, I like that move, but I don't know why, but all of a sudden my mind just takes me back to the point to where when Dylan Brooks asked Kyrie Irving for a jersey swap and Kyrie just straight up declined.

Yeah, exactly. Can you pull that up to kill? Can you pull up the clip? Tipe to the Twitter, Dylan Brooks, Kyrie Irving, jersey swap or whatever? Yeah. He tried to do it. He just like patted him on the head and walked away. Yeah, Kyrie loves everybody, bro.

He messes with everybody around the league. I've never seen that Nobody's ever turned down a jersey swap Like it's so fucking rude You get a new jersey every game What was he doing with this? Yeah I've known

Oh you pulled it up Let's watch this Yeah This is crazy This is crazy He's really expecting He was expecting to swap the jersey And then Kyrie just doesn't look

He's like no He's not gonna get it He just walks away He doesn't give the chance Yeah That is a season bed That's a season bed For Kyrie.

That's how you know. He's been in the game a long time. He knows who to give his jersey to. Good for him. If Dylan Brooks wants to instill some dog on a team, that's the wrong team in Texas. He needs to go to the Houston Rockets. Immaculate, perfect fit so they can stop all the mass basketball. No, no, no.

No. If you're trying to stop stupid basketball, Dylan Brooks is not your guy. He is not the one, right? You need to get somebody. And listen, for the Rockets, and I know. Let's talk about them. Okay, real quick. For the Rockets, there may need, you need either two things.

You either need to have been in the league for six years or you need to be 30 and older. All they need is adults. All they need is adults. They have so many young kids. They have their young core is huge. Their starting lineup next year could be Amen Thompson, Jalen Green, whoever you put in at the three, Jabari Smith Jr. and Shangoon. That is four young, young guys. Get some adults in the building, please.

I know what's funny? They agree. We've seen them be linked to every fucking adult on the free-use market. They're going after Brooke Lopez to be their backup center, I guess.

They're going after Kyle Kuzma, which Chris Haynes reported today, they have their leader in the clubhouse to get Kuzma. I guess he could be that starting three next to Jabari Smith. I like that. And it's been reported that

they're going to throw $40 million a year at Fred Van Fleet. Frederico. Oh my goodness. Listen, two years, 86 million is a reported deal. to come be that point guard to keep them in line and be the adult that's crazy they got the money to blow they're not going to use it so a short-term deal to come let this guy be the adult in the room and run the team as a point guard i like it it's a smart move the number yeah those numbers just sound absolutely absurd for fred van fleet the dude who couldn't even chew 40% from the field but hey it is what it is and with the type of player that he is and just fit on the court i think he fits seamlessly onto this roster oh yeah player who was undrafted he was an end

NBA champion. He was an all-star dude's been through it in the league, played in the G-League and all that. Like, he's the exact type of personality that you'd want to instill into the Houston Rockets. Exactly. Yeah. He's got a grind. It's worth it. He's had a grind for everything he's gotten. And they're a team full of high lottery picks who probably had this entitled young guy attitude. So you bring in the adult in the room who is the complete opposite. Nobody believed in his ass. He looks like he's on the court. He looks like me. He looks like he's 5'6. Like he is not jalen green i'll tell you that he is not but listen if you give fred van bleat drake's tether $86 million to live in houston that whole team listen team chemistry will be at an all time

high they will be running the city of houston at night every single night that there's not a basketball game it's gonna be insane you know it's a good fit it's a good fit like exes nose wise too because he can do a little bit of on ball point guard stuff that's what he's been doing with the raptors the past couple of years But he was at his best when he was next to Kyle Lowry, and he was like the shooting guard off ball. And this team has Singoon, who they're going to run some offense through. He's a passing hub.

They have Jaylon Green, who has some on-ball chops, Amen Thompson, who's a great passer. So Fred Wrenfley can come in and run the offense and keep them in line as the adult, but also play next to these guys and give them the on-ball reps they need to develop and probably be better in that role. And with EMA as the coach, they have, listen, they have Houston, even if they don't get Van Blee or Kuzmo or whatever, they have a very very promising future ahead of them with this with the score and like you

said now that another a man is there so i i think okay out of those two which one would you guys rather want would you guys rather want fred or easy okay yeah they have so many wing options they have they just draft a cam whitmore number 20 they have tarry easin they have uh kpj is going to go back to being a shooting guard jalen green and martin still or kenyon martin yeah yeah i yeah they need that point guard eventually it's going to be a man who Hopefully he develops into a true point guard. But I like having a guy there to not force a man to do that right away. They can let him develop and play next to Fred on and off ball.

And just, like I said, Fred's the perfect fit culture-wise. Like, they need him. Quick question. What is Kevin Porter Jr. doing right now? Is he still part of that roster? He is asking. He's asking to stay there because he wants to be in the league. He's begging for a spot.

He can put him in a row. So we make fun of him a lot. like he shouldn't be the starting point guard but he's a good shooter he has he can create off the dribble a little bit he should be a shooting guard they should kill the point guard experiment to let him be their backup two he'll be a valuable player he can be he can be a valuable player in some way just not the way they're using him now just dump him in the wizards man swear to god anything he's just one everybody in one him and Jordan pool him in Jordan pool letting them cook that'll be crazy bag be crazy

yeah let's move by the next team let's talk about the golden state warriors what is the biggest need of the golden state warriors this offseason draymond green retaining him they need they need him they need him he's the he's been the key to their to their entire defensive infrastructure for this entire run and it's like he may not fit on a lot of other teams but he fits in golden state and they need him and especially now that you traded jordan pool you have made the decision clear we would rather draymond than him now it's time to pay up and and keep him on the squad yeah i agree it's literally that simple you can you can't let draymond walk and like we're not going to right like

something we'd have to go crazy wrong for him to be on another team next year yeah yeah it would have to be a disrespectful offer and mo are you comfortable paying jaymond green what he wants like you know he's gonna he's gonna want pretty much a max deal as long as that max deal aligns like right when step's max deal ends and stuff like that it can't elongate step and clay's like deal like i i'd give him a max but i'm not going to give him anything od that'll attach me to my or when it's like, okay, dude, like, you're at the same age as you've done as Aslam or you're pushing that if you can't move like that, you're, that you can, there's only so much that your voice can do to my locker room and due to my players on the court.

So I would definitely give it to him. He deserves it. He's a big part of their, he's literally like the hub of their defense and one of the key parts to their offense. So he's definitely worth and he's earned and deserved that title over the last few years. For sure. They're also going to have replenish a little bit of wing depth because, Dante Divencenzzo's probably out of there

So they're gonna have to replace him And you know they're already lacking death a little bit last year Jonathan Cominga looks like it's just not gonna work out with his team Maybe they're gonna trade him he's been on the market So they have some holes outside of you bringing Dreybaum back I know they've also been linked to trying to get a stretch big People talk about them trying to get Porzingis Brick Lopez et cetera

But the problem is I don't really know what that path is Because they don't have a lot of flexibility at all Yeah yeah they they're really going to have to This is kind of the last chance that they have for this young core like they're going to give they're going to put a lot on moses moody's plate he seems to be out of all the out of all the young guys between pool kaminga wiseman who's gone and and him moody was the one who kind of seemed like they trusted the most and so i think he's probably going to get one more chance because he came out in some league

last year and looked really really good and it looked like he was taking a leap and Steve currie he only likes him apparently out of the young core and i think i think that he's probably going to get the most run and he's going to get the most opportunity at least early on in the year to kind of build that and GP2 I mean listen GP2's back for full season he's probably he had he had an offseason

to get healthy so he's probably going to get a lot of minutes as well so I think they like you said they don't have a lot of flexibility they have to turn internal for a lot of these holes you know who I want to see them add to the roster Mobamba I think if they're looking for scraps

and pennies like Mo Bamba is literally that got waived by the Lakers, I think, today. A type of youngish player who is in the same mold of the type of players that you want to add to this roster, give it a shot, give it a swing. If it doesn't work out, who cares because he's Mo Bamba? True. Yeah. That's a good transition. Let's talk about the Lakers.

As you said today, it was a deadline for guaranteeing contracts that are not guaranteed. So the Lakers waived Mowbomba and Malik Beasley. So that puts them a position now where, they can still retain Austin Reeves and Rui Hachamora because they're restricted, so they can match anything. They have a small cap hold. That's going to be the last thing they do, but they're going to match any offer for those guys.

They still have the Andrew Russell's cap hold so they can match him to a certain extent. Obviously, they're not going to pay him anything crazy, but they can bring him back still. But even with doing all that, Raven those two guys allowed them to use a full middle-level exception so they can offer a full 12 million to a guy similar to what we said with the Mavericks.

So, what is the Lakers' biggest need? I mean is what is it is it is Bruce Brown is Bruce Brown that the type of player that that they need I obviously like and the Lakers seem to have this mentality but like retaining Austin Reeves is option like that is priority one yep I was going to say that it's running it back and finding continuity for the first time that's their biggest priority yeah exactly um and on top of that me personally I would just would like to see another stable or either one or two centers that you can run on a consistent basis alongside Anthony Davis. But first, obviously, like, I think you have to keep Austin Reeves the leaps in this true,

like, I don't want to say, like, star or borderline. You can say probably, like, borderline, very fringe All-Star change that he's shown. He's a high-level role player. We don't got to go crazy. High-level role player, whatever, cool. Like, they need to keep him regardless of time, unless, like, Adam knocks his bag is going at him. Even then, he's a restrict the free agent.

They're going to match it regardless. Unless somebody offers him $40 million a year, which I don't even know if you can with his structure, they're going to keep him. And yeah, like I said, I'm interested to hear what you guys, what Donovan thinks, like what you said about adding centers next to AD,

because, like I said, priority one, maintaining continuity. Two, with that middle of exception, there's been a lot of reports that they're linked to Bruce Brown. Apparently, that's real. There's a good chance they get them. I would love that, obviously. That allows them to roll out a lineup of Bruce Brown at the 3,

LeBron at the 4, or vice versa and AD at the 5 that can be their bread and butter with Reeves and Delo. Cool. But there's been a lot of debate on the timeline on Twitter about should AD play more four with the center next to him? Mo said he likes that.

How do you feel about that, Donovan? Because for years we were trying to say AD should be a full-time five. Now everyone's kind of like, maybe he was cooking with the whole I want to be power forward thing. No. They should stick him at the 5. I think what Anthony Davis showed last year

playing at the five, it kind of it unlocked a huge, huge, like Eddie Davis just had a legendary defensive postseason run at the fire. And you are going to be able to have him there and have other people who are probably a little bit more mobile at the four roaming around

because you know that you have AD as your anchor. And so for AD who has a very long injury history, I don't want him moving around, cutting back and forth, right, playing this this janus role of i have to kind of be everywhere and roam free safety you stand in one spot and you have one job and make sure make sure that nobody scores at the room and like that's what that that's what you'll be we can we can have everybody else kind of roam around my thing is with my thinking is i'm thinking about the teams that you're going to have to

go through which is again probably the denver nuggets and every single team that the denver nuggets ran through in the playoffs, didn't have any, didn't have a quality bunch of big bodies to throw at Nicole Yokic. And the last time that an NBA team did was the Lakers back in the 2020, like, bubble Western Conference Finals, you know? And so that recipe, I don't want to, like, obviously they had a lot of other great things cooking well, but having Dwight Howard, DeVille McGee, and Anthony Davis in that mix, it was also, like, it did play as a big strength.

them too so for sure that's what i'm thinking about nickil can you pull up the list of NBA free agents and show us the centers because that's cool that's a good point because i agree ad should be the starting center for the lakers that should keep dating this formula but they need a backup center because their backup centers this year when you and gabriel mobamba who's gone

and they gave tris and thompson minutes in the western conference finals so they need a back minute still yeah he had a great four minutes in that game but uh they need a back up center of some sort and look that's that's true but like here's my thing if anthony davis can't stop nikoliyokish or if he can't slow him down i'm not trusting anybody else in the league to do it and so you might as well you might as well keep a d at the five and like izek said just try to get some other bodies in there so that he doesn't have to play so many

minutes at the five if you want to if you want to switch him back and forth cool but we're like we're going through the list. Would you rather have Mason Plumley Garden, um, garden Nicola-Yokish? Like, would you rather have, um,

you know, Bismach-Bionbo or something like that? Like, would you have those, those types of guys, Gardening Yokic or Anthony Davis? It doesn't matter. They're all cooked.

No matter what you put it. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. That's the, that's the point. And so if,

if you're going to be cooked regardless, then you should be doing what's best for you and your team and not trying to set your scheme up against one of the team. who has a, who has the guy who's won two MvPs out of the last three. It's a mix of both, though. Like, yeah. There needs to be somebody. They need to have a capable center who can play when Anthony Davis isn't on the court.

Exactly. You know, you want to build yourself to be as versatile as possible while also paying attention to, like, you know, who's running this league right now. So it's a little bit of both. I don't think they should, like, go all out and make that their number one top priority that that'll be insane. But throw amazing club beyond this team. That'll be nice.

I like, I like Mason Plumby's bag. I like the passes that he'd be doing. That's NASTA. That's Mason Plumley bag. That's disgusting. Hey, you know what I'm talking about. It's there. Yeah.

So, Nikiel just pulled up, or he's currently pulling up the list of the centers. You guys mentioned Mason Plumley. I like Mason Plumming. They're going to have the bi-annual exception, which that's more than enough to get Mason Plumley. And they have, look at these names. Brooke Lopez, they're not going to afford him.

Yakopo don't not going to afford him Christian Wood doesn't answer any of these problems bring Thomas Brian back like there's not a lot of good centers on the market

the closest one the closest one that you can get this unrestricted like that is the guy that I just said Bismack Bianbo and do you really want Bismack Bianbo

running your five like that when you're trying to make these deep runs into the playoffs and nothing moves me when we're talking about this when we're talking about like the center the centers that are available for the Lakers.

So you might as well give AD the job and then try and fill the minimal minutes where he's going to be out with somebody else. Instead of moving him to four. But that definitely needs somebody though because Obama's gone. Like Thomas Bryant's gone. They need a body.

I don't know who that is. It might be Mason Plumley. I think I kind of like that. I love it. You all asleep. Bruce Brown with the mid-level exception, Mason Plumley with the bi-annual exception. they're cooking

bring everybody else back y'all sleep on plum dog all right as we want of the next team what is the Pelicans biggest need in free agency oh I don't even know

NDAs NDAs I don't know I don't know man like they just they for for I guess the last two years regardless of the russia construction

their biggest need has been Zion's health and they need him to be on the floor and until then and like this may seem like a cop-out but you really don't know what you have until you can get a full year of Zion on the floor and you can't like I guess for them let's get an actual

point guard I would like to see them for I would like to see them get a for real point guard instead of CJ running the point he did a decent job but he probably he probably needs to be off the team you can get somebody you can get somebody who can run the offense a little bit more do y'all see when the kill just pulled up yeah i saw i saw i saw zariah

yo that is absolutely insane man this is why this is why you need you need the nDAs so they're they're going to need lawyers they're going to need a lot of stuff this off season because this is this can't happen for 82 games this can't happen somebody put maria mills in a straight jacket she's felt realistically the pelicans biggest need i think is to get rid of Jonas Valchunis, not because he's bad, but they need a center who can be more of a defensive presence next to Zion and Ingram. And there's been rumors that they're shopping.

They were trying to get Jared Allen, which I think would be fantastic if they could pull it off somehow. But I didn't really think about it before I saw that report, but I think before last year we said there's too many ball handlers, none of defense in the starting lineup. And there's signs that it can be good enough. Like, they were good when they were healthy, but I still don't think Jonas is the best fit.

Yeah, exactly. I think we said it earlier in the season when they were struggling just a tad bit and then they shot up to the number one seed. But still, I still feel this way. They probably have too many cooks in the kitchen. They have so many quality players. They're loaded with picks and stuff like that. And so if I were them, I would try to make minimum moves and put the type of players that you would like to see around Zion, but at a lower scale. so if you want like try to get the highest quality defensive center or power forward or whatever way you want to put it next to him and see what that looks like i don't think they should go ahead and try to cash in on anything that doesn't fit necessarily 100% well and i think that's like the only that they can do because when they're all healthy they were quite literally the number one seed and peeps like me or over here pushing the zon for zon for MVP propaganda so yeah yeah i don't think uh free ex signings is going to be their biggest deal this off season

I think it's going to be a trade. They have a lot of pieces there. There's a report that they're trying to trade. Kira Lewis, who I'm not even sure I've ever seen him play basketball. He's, like, barely in the rotation. I feel like I've seen him on the court, but, like, I don't know anything about his game. He has not gone the run needed on this team. Yeah, like, he's just, I remember him being drafted, and I can't remember a moment since from him on this team.

He was supposed to be the needle mover, man. But health gone away. Yeah, that is what it is. Yeah, I think trading for a center that fits their core. is the biggest need, I think. It's not a trade, just finding a defensive center of some sort to get them line up versatility.

I agree. Not Jackson Hayes. Shout to him, though. He's nice. Next team. What's the Memphis Grizzly's biggest need in pre-agency? Golly.

That's stuff because they have a lot of pieces. Yeah, they know, they just, they got rid of Dylan Brooks. They told him he's not coming back. And they exchanged Tyos Jones for Mark. who kind of replaces Dylan Brooks.

So maybe it's a backup point guard to replace Ty's Jones? Maybe that, maybe some more wing creation. I think, like, I don't know. They got Zaire Williams, though, who's been, like, one of their better kept secrets.

Yeah. They think they need a wing defender, though. You know, they were trying to get O.G. really hard. They're of the opinion they need a big wing defender. And now that you have Dylan Brooks gone, that's even less wing size. So I don't know if it's wing creation per se but definitely wing depth a high level wing i would i would the only reason why i would

say creation is because i don't i don't think that like we saw the celtics try to put marcus smart at the point guard position and although he did that like admirably i don't think that you want that for for the grisleys moving forward obviously once jacques comes back um i can't i can't i can't focus i can't come in up anyways this is so much yesy this i'm glad he pulled this up this kid has an arm sleeve as a fourth grader no no we're getting around the whole model we're talking about this is what we were talking about bro uh i saw a tweet that literally gave me a flash back from the hell oh my goodness listen between this and baby grong these parents are getting out of hand man this is ridiculous yeah we need what happened to the silly bands man what

happen in collecting Bakugans and stuff like that, man. This world is a chambles. Nah, man. These kids are smoking black and mild. What happened to the game I loved? This is crazy. Oh, my God, right. We used to be a country. A proper country.

I don't even want to talk. I don't even want to talk about Memphis anymore because now I'm just going to associate them with tatted up fourth graders, man. Let's move on. Who's next, man? They need a needle mover at the three. That's their biggest need. Maybe it's going to be OG again.

They open those talks if the Raptors blow it up. I'd love for it to be OG. But they need some type of a three that's going to be a long-term presence in this lineup, in this core. Yeah. Also, maybe a backup for, because Brandon Clark's going to be out for, like, the majority of this season probably as well. Yeah. Is that Santhi Aldama's name I'm hearing? Oh, he's nice.

Maybe they don't need him, actually. Ish. Yeah. Anyways, let's move on the next team. what is the phoenix sun's biggest need in free agency bodies they need bodies that's that's just it they just need bodies because they do need bodies for sure and i think it's pretty clear reposition uh one they need a starting point guard then they need a backup one back up two backup three back up four back up five a new code like they need everything so they need a bench they need a new

bench in its entirety it's ridiculous it's ridiculous Okay, so we'll just say bench depth. I think that's pretty clear. What they, what their biggest need is luck. They need to hope that some decent players will take minimum contracts to go there. Oh my goodness.

Yeah. You have, you have Bradley Beal, Devin Booker and Kevin Durant running a three-on-one fast break and campaign is making the decision on where the ball goes. Come on.

All right. All right, DeKil pull up the list of free agents again. Let's go position by position and figure out who is going to be on this son's bench. Please. While he's pulling that list up. Me?

I can give them five minutes I can This is ridiculous So let's go point guards first Yeah, look at guards Because I think they're going to go point Booker And start Booker Beal KD, maybe Tori Craig

And Aten Let's assume that So their backup one is probably going to be Campaign Who's going to be their backup two Didn't they just trade For someone from the Wizards Who's actually pretty nice

Jordan Goodwin Yeah So maybe him in campaign Or the back court It's not terrible Eric Gordon has been linked to them for a while Maybe he'll take a low pay cut to come ring chase I can see Eric Gordon in the team

Okay Okay That's their guards Let's look at forwards now Nikil I This is the hard part Because they need a lot

Stanley Johnson Bring him on Yeah they brought Stanley Johnson And Jabari Parker in for workouts Yeah We're in 2023 Do you understand the sentence that you just said We're talking about 2023

And you just said Jabari Parker got a workout They're in hell Might as well bring in Michael Beasley Do that Like look at these names If you scroll down a little bit Maybe they get Derek Jones Oh that would be actually nice

Kevin Knox Kill me now All right let's relax I mean Who do they have Who do they have They're gonna bring back Tori Craig They can get a Derek Jones

They could get a Tori and Prince perhaps this is making me upset it is it is because it really didn't make any sense to go at another guy who does the same thing that your other two top guys do

now you have no point guard you have no depth what have you done what have you done this is Isaiah Thomas's fault this is this is his fault I did what they're supposed to I guess man

yeah I have no idea what they're doing next team the what is the biggest need of the Portland Trailblazers a plan they don't know what they're doing direction they have no idea what's going on they don't know what they're cooking no the biggest new the Portland Trailblazers is a Damien Lillard trade

they need to fucking commit and get rid of them yeah I need I need what's the what's the Blazers's a GM does he have last name Cronin or something like that yeah is it Joe Cronin Joe Jim Cronin sent him a king of the fourth quarter video a set because it doesn't take that much brain power to go ahead and just throw Dame Millard on the market bro throw and free assignments if you want on the market or something something needs to happen yeah I can't think of a free agent or anything like that it'll fix this team whatsoever I think it's either you trade Damley Lillard or you trade Anthony Simons I think they have to clear up that

back court depth right now because scoot needs keys of some sort they can't let scoot right away as a six man for too long and anthony simons doesn't deserve the bench either so if you commit to a rebuild you can start simons and scoot together which would be weird but it could do it or if you're going to commit to building around damian lillard they need to trade simons for a wing of some sort or a center upgrade because nurkitch sucks i would if i if i were there i would probably go with the with the wing i would try and try and get something and then you just you just live with nerk with nurk is there

just live with nurk great yeah he's fine who amongst us said that live with nurk yeah yeah but this like not much to say about the team they're so like in the mud yeah I feel like everyone's just tired about talking him bro yes the way Isaac feels about the bulls that's how I feel about the blaze

I actively run from any trailblazers content that I see on my timeline I don't want to see yeah man we need uh Get Chris Haynes. He needs to delete Damien Oloid's number. That's the biggest need of this season is

Damien Lowe needs to block Chris Haines. Next up, what is the biggest need of the Clippers? They need a point guard. They need to figure out We're either...

They're not Russ? Even Russ. I don't... I think they should retain Russ. I think Russ has been solid for them. He was legitimately good after he went there. It was a crazy sign to see

after he was so awful with the Lakers. but it's good for both parties that retained rest, I think. It was good for him, for sure. I think, I don't know. I still think that they can use a little, maybe, maybe, maybe a backup point. Maybe, maybe that's what I'm talking about. Yeah, I agree.

Can get some, they can get some more help at the center position because like Zubach is, he's, he's Zubach, you know. He's not, he's not moving the needle in any direction. So, no, he's good. They didn't need somebody behind him, I think. he's he's Zubatch I like Zubach he's nice you're sleeping you're sleeping on him you're sleeping on him you're sleeping no no no I'm not

no I'm not saying he's trash but he's like he's just too much like that's just yeah yeah yeah right you know he's not like hugely impactful yeah moving the needle as we'd say yeah he does his job he does his job well right but you need

you need another five probably probably another backup point and um that's probably it Moe do you want them to trade for James Hardin would that be the biggest need? Do you think they should make that move? If I'm them, your team, your future is already pretty much, no, your future is quite literally in shambles.

Sooner later than contract like negotiations, contract extensions, talks are going to have to start between Kauai Leonard and Paul George. And as you refer to earlier in this episode, Isaac, oh boy, already had a conversation with Paul George about him not playing games and missing games and how like the company is overall a disappointment so they just need to like start honing in for now and also like we're for now of course but also the future that's all you need to focus on at this point and so throw out some like if you're going to invest into the clippers they need some low investment type players focused on the young core second half of the second half of the future bro so you want them to kind

of run it back and not trade for a james hardin type yeah exactly exactly like when we saw them against the Phoenix Suns. Like they, if Kauai Leonard would have stayed healthy, I ain't going to lie, I think they do probably win that series. Like Kauai was just that level of different. And we're talking about the Clippers winning that series

without Paul George, too. So I just think that you'd run it back. There's nothing else you can do. Don't force it to turn thing. I think their biggest need is to make a blood oath with some deity that can grant them three wishes and all three of which will be Senator on health. Yeah.

A blood oath. Very simple, very simple plan. Yeah. You just got to find a witch, a warlock, anything you can do, any religion out there that you feel like and grant you the power needed to keep those knees healthy, fully embark upon that journey. Get the Illuminati on line one.

Precisely. Yeah. The Lazarus Pit, the Luminati, something. Go down to New Orleans, voodoo. Voodoo, whatever it needs to be. Put a extraterrestrial, whatever you need to do, some type of powers on Kauilana's knees. please yeah yeah exactly

the lead needs it the streets need it all right next we got two teams left in the western conference what is the biggest need of the Portland I mean oh it's not the wrong team what is the biggest need of the Minnesota Timberwolves a car on the town street

we talked about it earlier they just they are muddled up at the top that the front court really has no direction it seems kind of clear that ant should be the guy let's get a cat trade let's start the next era of this team and let's move on Yeah. I more specifically, I think it's a point guard to pair with Anthony Edwards. I think they need a new point. My colony is good for now, but that's not going to, you know, like you're going to kick the tires on Mike Collin for too many more years. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. I was literally going to say the exact same thing. My colony keep, of course, I think they need to figure out ways to keep Jaden McGillian when his time comes and just focus on what needs to happen in the future similar to the poor and the trouble. It's like there's not much.

that you can do now just focus on the future and put yourself in the right position to do those things don't screw yourself over the short term yeah i just realized you're wearing a memphis shirt nice yeah exactly as i'm walking around in these streets of new york some lady was like oh go grizzlies and i'm like thanks i'm like bro i'm not a good with these man yeah i'm like what i was supposed to say what i was supposed to say great yeah nice yeah All right, man. Let's do the last team in the West to wrap up this side of the bracket. What is the biggest need of Denver Nuggets and Free Agency?

I would say Bruce Brown. Bruce Brown. Run it back. It's going to take a lot because a lot of teams are offering the bag of him, and I don't know if he's going to want to... Do they have their full mid-level exception to offer? Nope. The most of it's going to offer him is $7.8 million.

Yeah, so he's probably gone. So you better tug on every single emotional string that he has and try to get him to stay. But they're going to need, I would like for them to keep Bruce Brown in some capacity. If they don't keep Bruce Brown, then they need either A, find the next Bruce Brown type replacement, or B, maybe they already have that in the rookie now going on sophomore bronze. So they just need to keep on doing what they're doing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Just you need to keep on doing what they're doing, player development and all the good stuff.

I don't really think they have, they have like a. I don't think they have anything really of the need No, they don't They have a great roster It's like you said They're great at seeing what's happening with the CBA And knowing they need a replenish debt over the long term That's why they traded for another late first round pick

In the draft And they have a lot of young guys Who are hoping to be the next out of pop It's just do what she did with Brown Like Donovan said Find the guy on the minimum contract out there That is a value ad that you can come in And hope you can turn into something else

Find that Malik Monk at the Lakers had a couple years ago just see who you can find for the minimum that can be a difference maker for one year some stuff let's get to the east man we got the east first side what is the biggest need of the Boston Celtics

point guard still someone who can actually facilitate for a consistent basis because Derek White is phenomenal he's a great player but he's not the type of player who fixes the Boston Celtics

a number one need by far So they need actual guard They got a lot better Not a lot better But they got better With the Chris Ospersingis trade And reconfiguring their team By shipping Marcus Marr off the door

But Before that trade I was saying We were all saying that The team's biggest weakness Is they have no passers No playmakers It's been the thing for years

And they lost their only Above Average Playmaker He was barely above average But he was solid And now he was gone For a guy in KP Who was probably one of the worst Passers in the NBA

For all the strengths Yeah It's an issue that's been exasperated and I don't really know what the path is to get better there but if they go into next year being the worst passing team in the NBA it's going to be ugly it is it is

they are they've made a decision that they are leaning on Jason Tatum to take another step in his development and be a great passer that's what they think is going to happen that's what they think and that's what they're putting their chips on the table for so we've said it we've said it

we've said it a million times point guard and that's it wrong choice Yeah, the video that Isaac posted, hopefully the link will be in the bio again, is aging like wine. And I think that it will continue to age like wine. Even though Chris Hopposing has got thrown into this roster, I think everything that you said in that video and they're like deep flaws because of the how, because of the way their team structured, like everything still hands very, holds very true. And so until that issue is fixed and addressed, like they're, I don't want to say they're done. They're cooked or anything like that because we still haven't seen. seeing how they looked like with Porzingis,

but like the reason why they're out of the playoffs is still not fixed. Yeah, exactly. They're going to have the same issues deep in the playoffs where offense is going to become extremely difficult because everything is, oh, go get his ass. It's all straight ISOs. It's not no organization. There's no organization and no,

nobody's making it easier for the guys next to him. Yeah, exactly. Shout to Brett Stevens, though. I mean, shout out to where his dog is yeah so you heard go get his ass he's doing his dog

Isaac but Nikiel just pull up a Donovan tweet Jaylon Brown can't go left and now Marcus Smart has to babysit job it's an evil world it's terrible

it's all yeah listen they they need a point guard for room that's that's it like we said a million times nobody on that team can pass Nobody is great

Nobody can set the table And when you get into the playoffs And you get into like real half-core basketball And people need to make stuff happen You need your bucket getters to get buckets And they can't be worried About getting everybody else involved Yep

And I mean they want to trade for Dejante Murray I kind of want them to I kind of like that I think he'd be a decent fit Yeah, Jamon Brown For Jontaine Murray, let's do it Dejante Murray plus everything else you got For Jalen Brown

Thank you he can't however man all right we'll talk later about that well that transitions us let's talk about the hawks what is the hawks

what is the hawks biggest need in free agency the hawks yeah I think before this season and like I think I really like at the start of the 2020

at the start of the 2022 season like our roster was pretty much solidified and this is like the stereotypical roster that you want all surrounded around

Trey Young like everybody's big, can shoot, plus defenders, or at least above average, or plus defenders are on Trey Young. So now that, you know, like, things are a little bit discombobulated, they just need to rework their entire offense because things are broken, like you said at the start of the season, Dante Murray, ball on his hands, not a good cutter, and all this other shit. Like, it holds to be true on the type of point guard that Trey Young is.

And so offense used to be really reworked or you need to get rid of, get off of it John Timery, so you can commit to Tray Youngball and just live with it. Okay. What about you doing, Evan? No, I agree. I think that they're in a position now, especially with John Collins gone.

They can free up a lot of their guys in the front court. And they also need direction. I think that they're another team last year where with that trade, I think they were kind of reaching and they were just like, let's see who, let's see if we can get anybody that's available, another big name. And the fit wasn't great.

it wasn't fantastic. So I think what Mo said is 100% right. They need to figure out if they can get something for Dejante Murray to really center their team and center their offense around Trio. Exactly. It's something that I want to, I really want to see them trade for Pascal Seaccom. I think just like the thought of it, like if I'm popping on 2K, the thought of it is beautiful.

But at the same time, if Trey's going to continue to play the same way that he usually plays, and if we still have Dejante on a roster, that's going to be super ugly. so this team has deep issues team has deep issues yeah I think I agree it's just mix it up they have a lot of good parts like this team has a lot to work with

even after getting a John Collins for nothing they have like they got rid of some of their their picks to get to Jontay so they don't have the most draft assets but in terms of players they have a lot to move around and like I say it's just a different look I'm not even sure what that look is what route they want to go but some type of chance

change, I think. To be honest with you, also to tack on to this, DeAndre Hunter, he probably has to go. He is the stereotypical type of person that you'd want alongside Trey Young, but he has holes in his game. One of them is like, he's just not him. If you watched him play against Jason Tatum, Jason Tatum treated him as if he was Trey Young. Like, he didn't know what to do. It's like, it's like DeAndreter's all a ghost. And then there's that. And then offensively, like, yeah, He can dribble the ball a little bit and get into his mid-range bag and sometimes get to the rim. But, like, I don't want to see he's a black hole, but there's not enough connectivity there in our offense. And he has, like, some, there's a hole there that's serious.

And with the type of player that Tray Young is and the whole infrastructure of the Hawks, it's not going to work. It's good in hindsight, I mean, it's good in theory. But when you're actually doing the math and running back the footage, like, there's just clear holes with that. So DeAndi got to go, and I think he's a good value. Yeah, he'll help a team that doesn't need passing from his position. He can go be Aaron Gordon for somebody to a far worse degree. Yeah, it just can't be for us, sadly. All right, guys, what is the biggest need of the Chicago Bulls?

You have 30 seconds to answer if we move on to the next team. I refuse to answer. I'm just done it. I'm talking about it. Now, I'm playing. I don't know. I think they are also a team that needs direction. but for them they

they also need a need a point guard I'm not like like I would assume he's like he's okay but he's not great there the Lonzo board 30 seconds is up I'm sorry damn it's 30 seconds go rebuild rebuild rebuild

Lonzo can't walk it's okay he can just stay around and collect the vibes other than that like keep he will keep IO keep Lonzo everything else should be on the block to be honest with you bro that was a very tight 30 seconds good job On to the next team. What is the Cavalier's biggest need in free agency?

Somebody who can shoot threes. Please. Yep, exactly. From the small four position to be exactly. Please, yes. They need somebody to replace Isaac O'Coro at the three, and they need to be able to shoot threes. And if they can do that, they will be fine moving forward. Also, you need to give Evan Mobyo a meal plan, too.

This year's one thing this time around. It was the way the boys of Mr. Robinson was throwing around. God. It was looking terrible, bro. Yeah, they need to get Evan Mowgli's some premier protein to drink every morning. Yeah. You know, some egg whites, some grilled chicken. Yeah, like, soothe them thighs up, man.

There's been a lot of rumors that they're potentially trading Jared Allen, which I don't like a wine than to trade Jared Allen, but I don't hate it because a simple thing is they have two bigs that can't shoot, which is really fucking hard to build around these days. Damn near impossible to win at the highest level with two bigs they can't shoot. so unless Evan Moby is going to stretch his range out out of nowhere, Jared Allen might be the odd man out. Yeah, absolutely, I agree. I think you might want to try to run it back and give it another year

just to see how far along Evan Moby's shooting can get to, but if they're shopping or have the idea of shopping, Jared Allen, in my mind, that's damn near, I don't want to say brilliant, but it's a good move because you're accepting the type of player that you have

And you're not trying to force him to become something that he's not. You're trying to switch up his archetype and envision him as like, you know, something that's not realistic. Like what the Boston Celtics are doing with the, yeah, like what the Boston Celtics are trying to do with Jason Tatum. So I think it was, it's actually a good move. Yeah, I just don't know if he was ready to be a five yet. Like you said, he's not an interior bruiser. Like, it's possible he'll get there eventually.

But I kind of like him as the four. Yeah. Yeah, he's, they, like, like most said, they got, they got thrown around. So they're, they're going to have to figure, they're going to, yeah, they're going to have to figure out how to, I think for them really figure out how to translate what they do in the regular season into the postseason and make sure that they can keep that the same structure. They've had some talks about moving Darius Garland. I don't think that they're, I think that was fake news. It's, it was fake news. That was completely fake news.

Yeah, I got, I just, yeah, so it's whatever. Completely unsubstantiated. Yeah, so that's, the Jared Allen stuff is, is. cool though if they can get somebody who can shoot that's that's really the borrower of the story they just need more shooting from what from whatever from whatever position they can get it from they need people who can hit threes exactly let's talk about the team that tossed them around what's the biggest need of the new york nick they need another donovan cook they need they need another playmaker exactly they need they need another playmaker um i i think right now a lot is from is

is on Jalen Brunson's plate. And the two things that you're hoping from is either another jump from R.J. Barrett or Julius Randall to be consistent. And those two things are like, they're very hard to ask. They're very big ass. It's antithetical to who they are as people.

Exactly. So they're going to need, they're going to need some more pieces around him that can actually create and knock down shots. And so they can go get somebody. I honestly, I don't know who they would get at this point, but No, no, stop that Hey, you said you want a playmaker, all I hear is

You're describing him They can get one of the best playmakers in the world Not him Not him, not him But yeah, I would If I was the next, I would put a premium on on playmaking this offseason Okay, how are you going to quickly is up to get paid Are you wanting to invest in quickly?

Yes. Mr. Nine figures. I would. I would. I like, I like, wait, okay, not nine figures,

but like, I like, I like Emmanuel quickly a lot. Four years, a hundred million. Is that, is that too, is that you wish for your blood?

25 years, but that's a lot for Emmanuel quickly. That is. Yes, that is too much. For 25 million a year for your backup point card. 20 max,

and that's still pushing it. I'm feeling a solid 18, a million year for Emmanuel quickly. Yeah, 25 is a bit much Yeah How do you feel about Obie Topin?

You want him out of there? You want to free him? Well, I do want to free him But that requires us firing Tibbs So And that's free him Like trade him Trade him, like give him a home

That I'll use him No, I'm cool I'm cool with him I want him around I'd rather I'd rather You're a bastard Why'd you want him around

I'd rather Tibbs go Than Than top in I don't think That Tibbs is the guy to get us over the hump that Tibbs is the guy to really push everything

forward. He kind of, he got lucky this year because he lucked into Brunton taking this like crazy step but their offense is very, very isolation heavy and that just, that's not a great success for

postseason, you know, winning and stuff like that. So I think we need a little bit more creativity offensively and Tibbs is not the guy to be creative offensively. Yeah All right Next team

What should the Toronto Raptors do? What's their biggest need? Break it up Break it up There's so many teams Where they just need direction They need to sit down And figure out a plan

And for them They need to figure out If they really want to trade Or not trade But like if they're going to resign Van Bleet They're going to trade Siakam What they're going to do with this

Are they finally going to trade OJ and Obie Please just figure out What you want to do I cannot believe they got, they declined four first round picks from the Memphis Grizzies. Like that is an insane fumble. That is an insane fumble and their heads got work. Their heads are in eagles are so inflated and I think maybe a year, year and a half, two years from now,

they're going to look at that trade and be like, damn, we really get themselves with a foot because now we're trading them for a first round pick. Stuff. We're going to say, Isaac. I think OG's a guy You keep around Like he's a valuable player It's hard to find guys like that I don't hate that they didn't trade him

But I think they should trade everybody Besides him and Scotty And just like commit to a rebuild Suck for a couple years Get two more rookies Two more young guys To pair up with those two And have a core

Because Fred and Lee's gonna walk I think I think he's gonna go to Houston Because that bag's too hard to turn down If he stays Okay whatever Do your whole Be mid thing

And hope you can be the heat Sure But if Fred leaves They gotta trade Seaccom These values at all time high They got to cash in Get some assets Tank for a year

Maybe two years And like you said Have some direction Give yourself a chance To build a core that matters And isn't going to just be Eight Seat at best Facts

Facts Exactly Exactly Darius The third team We've said their biggest need Is the tank There's a lot

There's a lot of teams That are mid right now And but they refuse To believe that they're mid And they So yeah That's it If you like that

right next team we got what is the biggest need of the Indiana Pacers I think they just need more bodies next to Tyrese Halliburton maybe you want to look for a second star but I don't know if like you need a rush into that process just yet so yeah probably a four but you just drafted a four so yeah I think the opposite I think they have too many bodies I think they have to clear up that backcourt logjam they have Matherin buddy healed Duarte Neismith all these guys that are twos and I think they should move off

of some of them and try to consolidate Buddy Hill's been on the trade block for fucking ever I think trading Buddy Hill is a good option you can trade Duarte because he's just Chris Duarte like it's pretty irrelevant Either way I think they need to free up Benedict Matherin to be the full-time starting shooting guard to let him build next to Tyrese Halliburton

because they have a formula now is Tyrese as your star point guard next to Matherin as your good two guard and then Turner as your star center, whatever, your centerpiece center with J.S. Walker now to be the guy next to him. That's your front and back court is solidified, but you got to give math and the ability to actually take those minutes. Yeah. Yeah, that's cool. I think they're in a step. I think they took a step in the right direction and we said this on the draft pie, but getting Jers Walker, they need

to fill out their defensive infrastructure and they need to make sure that Tyrese is kind of protected on the defensive end and really just let him, you know, get into his bag. Obviously push him to be a better, you know, like team defender, be good. in the spots but you have to fill out the spots around him and with with walker with turner you can maybe get another guy in there who's really good at defense that can that can really free him up on on offense and just and honestly help them just get into transition and get these stops and get to pushing and doing stuff like that yeah yeah they were a good team last year when they were healthy i don't think they have to shake up too much just free up the minutes for

the guys that have long-term value to you yeah exactly but long-term if indiana is serious. They need to really just like you just got like you just said, Isaac, put Matherin in the best position to thrive because you expect him to be the second guy alongside Tyrese because with the way they're built right now, I think they have a legit chance to build a potential contender in the next like three, four years, five years for now. And as of now, it was just all about like who's a core piece, who is a part of our actual like, young core whatever you want to call it

for sure and I think Tyrese Mathyrin and Walker is a nice young core to start with just empower them all definitely next up

what is the biggest need of the Miami Heat Damien Lillard they need him for a they I don't and it feels kind of weird because like they got there but this idea of

we're just going to lean on the power of friendship to get us through every single round that can only take you so far and we've seen that right they can get to the finals but they can't win it

because they don't have enough talent they don't have enough offensive creation and it's a lot to put on just Jimmy Butler and hoping that Duncan Robinson and Caleb Martin have the series of their lives so go get a legitimate star who you know can score at a high level who you know can play make for everybody else

take the load off of Jimmy and more importantly take the load off of BAM right BAM at a bio is he's not going to be the second best offensive player on a championship team relegate him to the third role go get another guy who can score

and keep it moving yeah I want him to get Kyrie but to be more broad they need to sure up their guard rotation because Kyle Lowry washed or just talks they might cut him he's done damn cutting Kyle Larry

I know Gabe Vincent and Max Drews are both free agents that teams are looking at we saw reports that the Raptors might throw a bag of Gabe Vincent to replace Fred Van Vlitt if he leaves I saw a jersey swap with Gabe Vincent, which is hilarious. Was it a Miami jersey swap, though?

No, it was Gabe Vincent a Raptor jersey. Oh, my God, bro. I feel like Raptors. It's a lot of things. And then Max Drews is rumored to be being sought after by the Pacers and a lot of teams. So they can potentially lose a lot of guard minutes this offseason. So the Damien Lillard thing is just, like, to be determined by Damien Lillard, so not much they can do there. Kyrie's Kyrie if they're interested

I would like that but even outside of that if they lose those guys they got to figure something out because they're gonna have a lot of minutes to figure out damn uh-oh the kid they can pull it up just look at this look at the Jersey swap this is gross this is nasty work gay Vincent jersey swaps

we are losing recipes they're gone they're lost this is how you know the Toronto Raptors are in the trenches they need help this is tough it looks good though He looks right. He feels like a raptor. I can see that.

Yeah, nice, scrappy, you know, not necessarily moving the needle, but he's a good... Just undrafted point guard to undrafted point guard? Yeah, exactly. Love it. I guess. What is the biggest need of the Milwaukee Bucks? Oh, man. We haven't heard a lot from Chris Middleton. I was going to say that.

Before the pod that, like, we haven't heard any updates whatsoever. There's a chance that they might lose. Brooke Lopez, and if you're looking at, if you put yourself in their position, you have a generational player here and do you, and you could build, continue to build something special, or you can cash out Chris Middleton, you know what I'm saying, like he has nice things that a lot of people didn't expect that would be on his resume. And at this point, like what more, I don't know, what would, I don't know, it's just interesting, it's interesting.

And if I'm, if I'm the, the Milwaukee Bucks, you, you have a chance here to either a, like, re-tool your roster a little bit, which I don't know if you want to do because things are stillified were what the number one seed last year, or be like running back. So I don't know. Yeah. For me, it's final way to re-sign Chris Milton and Brooke Lopez. I think if you lose those guys, you don't have the flexibility to replace them very well. And it would be borderline disastrous to their championship window, I think, to lose both

of them. If you lose Brick Lopez, you'll live. Yannos will be the full-time center for a while until you can find his replacement. But losing him and Chris, they're both unrestricted free agents. Like you said, we haven't heard any rumors about Chris.

Maybe that's because he's just going to resound with the bucks and there hasn't been talked because that's what it is. He hasn't been talking to anybody. But I don't know. It's a total mystery. I don't know where, what is going on with Chris Middleton? Nobody, nobody knows.

Nobody knows. Yeah, that has, it's a very clear. That's priority one. Um, they've gone all in on this core. If you want to look, look past that, maybe some more, some more shooting off the bench, right? Just, just make sure that, like, that the floor can be as spread as possible and as wide open, but they have to make sure that I think, you said it's going to be disastrous. I think if they don't have Chris Middleton and Brooke Lopez, at least next season, that window's closed next season. Yeah, yeah.

The team looks so different, bro. I don't even know what the next move would be. Like, that would be crazy. Yeah They can't let that happen They can't let that happen They can't let that Yeah man

Last team We made through the whole ringer What is the biggest need of The Philadelphia 76ers in free agency They already addressed it They already addressed it They got themselves a new head coach They needed to get rid of Doc Rivers

And they did Nick nurses in there And I guess I guess now it's now it's trying to get some valuable assets for for james hardin maybe get more than a crumble cookie for tobias harris but but i think i think they're going to be okay even even with just maxi and and uh and harris like i again i don't think that maxi is going to take some monstrous leap

but i like tyrese maxi a lot and i think i've been waiting for philly to give him the keys and so if hardin is truly truly gone i'm excited to see what he can do at the point guard position Yeah, I think the biggest need is, it's obvious, right? It's get the best haul you can for James Hardin. Yes. It's replenish your debt via James Hardin trade. Go out there and get Norman Powell, Terrence, Mann, and Robert Covington for James Hardin. Yeah.

Yeah, exactly. I actually like that. God, yeah, I actually like that. That's crazy. Anyways, while all those things, I 100% percent agree with you guys, they probably also need to start slowly swallowing the pill that, like, the process is probably going to be over. because this is now your third implementation installment of the Joelle and Bede contender team went through it first with the Jimmy Buller, Ben Simmons, and after that, you know, Ben Simmons, and that was an actual real thing for just a hot second, and now you're with James Hardin and

that folded like a pancake, and so now it's like how many more opportunities does a star player have in this league to have real chances? and now at this point is just like I hope that they cash in at the most opportune moment and not do anything to set yourself back whatsoever yeah I'm glad you said that because the tweet Nikiel just pulled up

is perfectly in line what you just said it's from this dude Matt Spahnhor who good TikToker I like his content a lot said the process 76 years have had one of the longest team building arcs in recent history absolute facts they've cycled through so many eras since they drafted Joelle and Bede and did the whole teardown.

There's a Ben Simmons era. Jimmy Butler was part of that. Markle Fultz was part of that. Jake Hardin's part of that. Now they're going to be whoever the next person next to Jewel and Bid is. How often have we seen a guy, a star, have an era around him, like Juele & Bid,

and have this many renditions of the team? It's crazy. It doesn't happen unless you literally move teams, and Joe Bid hasn't done that at all. So it's like he's been through the ringer, um and that's like a fortunate thing because you have a front office that's clearly like capable of doing the right things it's just like are they you know straight up luck are they they traded away jimmy they traded away jimmy that is true they did trade away jimmy butler

they cashed in him at the right moment they made a terrible decision keeping fucking oh my god tobias harris over jimmy butler that clipper lives in my head rent free bro and it wasn't it wasn't it wasn't even it wasn't even tobias they chose ben simmons over over him but like but jimmy jimmy feels like it's tobias because they play like yeah they both play on the wing but it's i love that delusion yeah it's it's whatever though but they i mean the process has been over for a couple years now you know even even before like the process ended probably like 2018 once it was clear that the sixers are going to be a good team and they're not going to tank anymore that's when the process ended but they i got to make this until you

YouTube video, man. He's writing it down. Yeah. I love that. I'm a chicken scratch iron writing. That's hilarious. Well, man. That's it.

We got through the whole league. Look at that. And I hear sirens in the background, and I think those are the bells ringing. We have Quasimato up in the tower ringing the bells for TikTok time. Let's go. The crayon, the crayon eaters over here banging on my walls right now. Feeding for it. They need that shit.

As always, we're going to start with the draft I hope you all prepare for this one I hope you all prepared You need to have some written names written down Let's go Because this draft is only NBA players Whose first name starts with the letter K Okay, okay

So Let's draft NBA players Whose first name starts with the letter K I said that weird You said again Let's draft NBA players Whose first name starts at the letter K Who had first picked last time?

I did I did and I fucked it up. So Donovan's first. Mo's second, I'm third. Okay, okay. Damn. We can double up here. Damn.

All right. With my first pick, give me Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. Naturally. Nice. Okay, go ahead and give me Kobe Bryant. Okay. Kobe! First off, I'm taking Kevin Durant, easily.

Okay. Nice. I can go a lot of places with the second pick. Don't do it. Just give me the best wing duo possible. Give me Kwai Leonard. nice all right okay that is you got that's cool yeah you got Kauai go ahead and give me Kevin Garnett come on you're not going to believe this I forgot about Kevin Garnett

you sold I sold two drafts in a row so it's okay okay my draft so I got cream dang y'all y'all took okay just let me fill out my back court here give me Kyrie Irving and give me Clay Thompson. Oh, that's exactly who I wanted. That's a fantastic background. That's a nasty team. Wait, did you just choose Donovan? Yeah, I got Kyrie and Clay.

Okay, my thing just froze. Wow, that's so crazy. Okay, cool. So you got Kyrie and Clay. Yes. And then you have Kareem. Yeah. Okay, cool.

So I got Kobe and I have Kevin Garnett. Ah, now this is where things get a little bleak. Um, so go ahead for my, this is, this is a little steep, but at my five, give me Chris Osprezinius. Okay, okay. Okay. I was trying to get him. I was hoping he fell back. I need tinguish, pingus on my team.

I need a five, two. It's gross to say this. Give me the spacing. Give me Carlincy towns. Yeah, no, you're done. Cream is eating. And then. Do I pick nasty man?

Who's nasty man? Stop that. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I saw a jersey today at the NBA store. Damn, they threw up. Wait, they still sell it? Yes, I went to the NBA store in Manhattan, dude. They still sell it with pride. Crazy.

You know what? At my four, I need some inside presents. Give me Kevin McHale. Okay. Okay. I should have picked him over Yeah, I need spacing, whatever Okay, cool

Picking Pryzingus over Cat is wild What the hell? Yeah, no, I don't like Cat, bro. If it's Deep Voice Cat, then okay, give me that. But if it's the real cat, I don't want that. All right. So, at my point, actually, I think he'll be available.

So I got Kobe at my two. I got KG. Prozingis. To fill in that wing spot, give me give me Chris Middleton you bum

bum oh my goodness y'all told me to do my homework worst decision of your life no okay okay now I gotta go go back to the

now I got to go back to the list but okay at my four give me Kevin Love good pick nice nice

and now I have a three to figure out because I I really really did not think that moho is going to get chris middleton and he threw everything off i have no idea where to go right now for my three we are go ahead this is going to be this is going to be the nastiest pick kooz you munch you thought i forgot about that you thought i forgot about that ticot go ahead pick bomb blonde hair boy let's do it ah for my last pick give me cow kuzba

oh ew ew you you have a narrative and agenda that you're trying to push you threw me off So bad. He threw me off. I'm upset. I'm upset. Round this off. I'm so bad. I'm so bad.

Give me the cheeks of steel, Kyle Lowry. Oh, my team is now. Because I'm on the big ham. Nasty. Yep. Don't tell me to do my homework. This track is over. You just ruined.

my plans too damn i need a call lowry all right i need a point guard too give me kemble walker yep nice nice i'm mad oh you just spoiled both of our teams

yep this is what i do man i'm swimming this bit because i'm so mad i'm so mad i'm so mad all right so i have kemble walker kawai leonard kevin durant kevin mackale carlithy towns

Nice I got Kyle Larry Kobe Chris Middleton KG and Kresos Brazilian Okay Pretty good

Pretty good pretty good I have Kyrie Clay Thompson Kyle Kuzma Kevin Love and Kareem Abduljabar That's still a great team Three and four is lacking

But that one two and five Is crazy I mean listen If we're talking about prime Kevin Love 30 30 30 Listen

I'm considering I'm considering 30 30 his prime So he's giving me 30 and 30 every game. Yeah, Tubby. Wubby, Kevin Love was a different breed, bro.

That's disrespectful. You should have picked Kyle Corver over Cooze. Ooh, yeah. You had more shooting? You had that crazy shooting if you could have that. I mean, yeah, I got Kyrie and Clay. I forget Kyle Corp. And Kevin Love, like, I'm pretty good on shooting.

Okay. Yeah. Next TikTok, we are going to do a tier list, as usual. My hair's all crazy because I was laughing so hard. It's all frizzy. we're going to do a cheer list this time of the best white players that we can think of not the best white players of all time

but a white player tier list we love race relations on this pod exactly this time it's uh it's only American white people no international players we've been told we should do that

because including like Jokic and stuff is cheating okay so people are going to be like what about Curry that's so stupid there's so many comments about that they're idiots man I know let's put these white

NBA players into a tier list It's a hilarious sentence White First off Go, Larry Bird S tier Easy, S tier Easy, automatic

What about Kevin Love? I think he should be Either A or B I would say Kevin Love is nasty But he kind of empty stats But he was really fucking talented So I can't say fuck anymore

Because TikTok likes to take wear money But he was really talented so I'm okay with A. I want to say, I'm feeling B plus. Okay, we'll go there. We'll go B plus, but he has to be in B. Will B? Yeah, I don't.

In my head, I can't think of Larry Byrd, then Kevin Love. Yeah, yeah, I can't put in the thing. You're right. There's a tear in the middle between those guys. You're right. Next up, Gordon Hayward. C. All right.

All right. year was pretty good he was never on the same level as kevin love he wasn't he was he see he's see yeah but he also had a very short prime so he could be d yeah we might have to go b we might have to go b we might have to go b no Kevin love cannot be on the same level as gordon why not oh no he's not b he's for sure not b i said d oh d oh d oh that's got a disconnect yeah i say c okay okay we'll go see if you're thinking d we'll go see he's damn sure not be yeah yeah okay j jreddick wait time about wait i have a question are we putting these in the tier list just like as based on like how good they were as as basketball

players or like or like how good they are i be in white boys like because that's what i thought that's what i thought basketball player okay that's why i had gordon heywood at b because i was like listen he's a he's he's a very stereotypical white boy he should be at least b well why I'm going to be talking about that. I don't know. That's what I thought in my hand. Okay. Okay.

My bad. Little disconnect. We're here now, though. We're back. We're back. J.J. Reddick. Throw an old man to the three.

He's an S tier. But on the court, he's a C tier. It's weird to say. Yeah. He can't be in the same tier as Kevin Love. If it was podcasting only, S tier, C fair.

Yeah. One of the greatest shooters easily of all time. So slept on. For no reason. Jerry West. S tier? He's the logo. He's the logo.

Are we putting it or are we putting him in A just because he played, you know, when they had no three point line? Is he in the same conversations as Larry Bird? I think so. In terms of white players, yeah, for sure. Okay. He can be S-tier. He's the second best white player at all time. He's got to be S-tier.

Yeah, easy, bro. Adam Silver. You know I got beat with Adam. Makes feelings. You know I have B for Adam. Some days I want to say B. Other days I want to say he's not even on the radar. I'm playing Adam Silver in D.

Ooh, D tier commission. Yeah. All right, D tier. Let's do it. Listen, he's no David's turn. I'll say that. Exactly. Last one.

Kevin Herder. Sir, he is not white. His name is Kavan. He does not belong here. He does not belong here. He belonged to another tier list? I think he, let's be real. He should be a D tier.

He's not as good as. No, that's where he belongs. Yeah, in D. You don't want to throw an Austin Reeves in this guy? Austin Reeves. Yeah. All time? D.

All time. D. I don't know. I said that. D. Yeah. On the way to Cito. It'll be there eventually, probably.

Yeah. That's funny. I caught that boy, hell Billy Kobe. He has to be a great NBA player. That's funny. Next thing we're going to do, Mo, I think you have some tattoos to show us. Ooh, yeah. So for the audio listeners and the YouTube watch us too,

we're going to make a TikTok segment based off of rating NBA tattoos. Could be tattoos that players actually have or stupid-ass fans or stupid fans. So, Nicky. you got all the ammo loaded up and we are going to react so here goes the hooked let's rate these NBA tattoos from 1 to 10 cool all right first up we got this

Boston Celtics disgustingness it would be a 1 because they lost but they lost in the finals so he was on the something he was cooking something so I give it a 2 okay we'll give him a 2 just for commitment to the bit I think it got to be it got to be a 3 though

because he could kind of cover that up. It's not that hard of a tattooed cover up. That's a whole banner. What are you talking about? That's hard. It's a whole banner. Those are solid black lines. You're going to cover that up with a block.

Two. Yeah, that's a three. You don't have to cover that up with a fucking flag. Listen, don't tell him that. It's a Bostonian. You know, you see his face? That is anger. All right, what's next?

The next one we got, ooh. Mike Muscala, oh, not Mike Muscala, my bad. We got Mike Scott in the infamous emoji tattoos. Come on, man. You are grown, man. These were bad back in the day when I saw it, and I was like, those are the worst half the kids I've ever seen. Seven years later, they're worse.

This is horrible. What makes it even worse now is the Snapchat tattoo. Nobody used that anymore, man. He must have thought that it was cool. showing the holes in the clip look what i got look at these yeah no that's zero no it's a it's a straight zero think about how bad those emoji sweatsuits were and then think about this man has that on his body all day every day it's forever no this terrible they're not going away look at the other arm in the back look at the look at the four arm he's like a family emoji tattoos i've never seen

that part oh my goodness this is new to me this has to be one of the worst this man is 40 emojis deep. He has depth. This is nice. He has a deepest emoji bag in the NBA, bro. He got an emoji village. Oh, bro. Fucking zero.

It's ridiculous. Yeah, zero. This is despicable. Absolutely zero. All right. Next up, we got the John Morant. It's a paraded some of my city tattoo from a Boston Celtics fan. This is.

Peak insanity, bro. That is not John Morant. That is a Dominican barber. That is Cat Williams. A fan of another team getting this? I can't talk. It's that bad. It's that bad.

What is this? Does he have a gun? He has a gun. Yes. Okay, listen. For comedic purposes alone, this is a 10. This is a 10. This guy is a 10.

saying he does not operate on the same reality scale that we operate on he's in his own world living with a different set of rules this is a 10 my thing it would be a 10 but the body place him why got it be on your thigh out of all places you want you want to be like taking a number two when you're going to see some parade and somebody sit like what are you doing right now i think you could have put it on his back on his ass on his like bro anywhere else got the die. Playboy was just terrible for me, man. 10.

This is great. I'm with it. Next up, we got R.J. RJ's basketball in the middle of the day. I'm in the middle of the R. What you go? What did you guys write this? Did LeBron draw this?

I don't know. This looks like something that you draw when you're just like, when you're tapped out in high school. When you're just drawing stuff on the notebook, this looks what that is. He had senioritis and he drew this and took it to the He had senioritis He drew this and took it to the tattoo parlor that night Listen, in 2002 That's a nice logo though

I'm gonna give this a 7 At least his ruggrat's ass logo What are you talking about? In 2002 They weren't that creative At the peak of Rugrats powers, all right Yeah, for his time That must have been hard for sure

But this made this age like quite literally Does he still have this? Probably Yeah one all right next up y'all gonna love this one am i yeah yeah we got this is jason williams white boy tattoo this is hard out of ten nobody saying he knows who he is i like this he's in touch with his culture he's a man of roots i like this yeah yeah 10 out of 10 good job you should know where they come from

Yeah, exactly, bro. Always repping. On the knuckles, on the knuckles is incredible placement, bro.

What Drake says? I'm hardly home, but I'm always repping. Jason wants to. Bar. This is easily a 10. It's easily a 10, bro.

All right. Why is there white bread behind him? Oh my God. I didn't even see that. What type of photo shoot is this? Because he's white. Very simple.

What did you get? What are you get? I thought it was clear cut so random what does that have to do with anything what's on the left side is that Xanax

what is that that that's white chocolate oh it's white chocolate oh god you thought this was the political statement yeah

and then there's dives the background too God it makes sense makes sense this is a hard photo minus the bread with a random

PS2 controller I love it Wow. Yeah, this is hard. This is Austin Reeves before Austin Reeves. Yeah. Yeah, this is a Dole W. Yeah.

So next up. Oh, man. What we got? We got Dezante Mori and, or, we got Dejante Murray. We got Dejante Murray and his invader Zim-ass tattoo that he got when he was 16 years old or something like that. Because good job. Is that alien have a grill on? I don't know what he has on, bro.

Is he iced out? Look at him. Did his parents sign off on this? He had to get this as an adult. This is the peak of I'm 19. I just got a million dollars. What can I do? This is awful.

This is terrible. I'm getting this is zero. Listen, we've given some pretty low grades, and this is better than some of the stuff we've seen. So I'm going to give like a three. He put a grill on an alien, Isaac. No. I thought it was a base.

small with eyes. No. This is a zero. Okay, it's a zero. You can have it. At the same time, this looks like a fish kind of too. I ain't going to lie, this might

have to be a zero. It looks like a plethora of things, which is terrible for him. I just don't want to look at it. It's not even scary. It's just weird. Does he have a child? If he has a daughter, it would terrify him.

He has two kids. Oh, those kids are horrified every night. Imagine putting your kid to sleep and you turn to the right, and you just, wah. Terrible parents. Oh

I was ass That was the last one It's terrible I think that was last one That was perfect The killful Love Lebron's drawing I love it

This had to be This had to be LeBron This had to be Dezante Murray's Tattoo artist for sure Not got a big ass head though My bad part Lebron is a game ball

Yeah I'm dead He's hilarious Okay, next thing we got We're going to do Something we did a couple weeks ago you guys loved I'm going to name NBA franchises And we have to talk about who their best player in team history is Let's do it

Greatest player Legacy talk Yeah, I love it Who is the greatest player in this NBA team's history The New York Knicks My fucking voice crack The New York Knicks Yeah, it's Pat Ewing

It's Pat Ewing Yeah, it's not No conversation, no Clyde Frazier love I don't think it comes close I mean, no Walt Frazier Love? Nah, I would, I would say, listen, Walt, he got the chips, and you can, you can make that argument, but I think Pat, Pat probably embodies what it means to be a Nick. The Dave to Busher? No, it's not Dave, it's not Dave.

Phil Jackson? I'm just talking, I'm just talking, it's Pat. No, it's Pat. It's Pat. Pat had, Pat's the most talented superstar that we've ever had. easily and I think there's there's a sizable gap for that too so it's kind of a no-brainer

respect to Walt though the New Orleans Pelicans slash the Hornets Chris Paul Anthony Davis no Prime Chris Paul also didn't do shit

with the Hornets yeah they were both top five players of their peak both did absolutely nothing I don't know how to parse that Chris Paul stop Prime Chris Paul

people were saying that Prime Chris Paul was like robbed of an MVP and Anthony Davis was never at that point where he was robbed of an MVP he was there taking they were they were actually making runs with that with that team yeah it's just they had a terrible team around Nancy Davis but they were both extremely high peaked yeah are y'all we're taking are y'all seriously taking Anthony Davis we can go Chris Paul if it's close you'd be surprised yeah it should you be surprised how little Chris Paul did like we

rag on AD for accomplishing nothing, Chris Paul didn't do anything at the hornets either. So, like, it's close. But I'll go, yeah, that almost won MVP thing, it's the hardest thing on his resume right now. Great. He didn't win MVP. Congratulations.

Yeah, yeah, exactly. Nice. Keep that same energy. Keep that same energy when we talk about the dudes. I love it. I remember, it's Anthony Davis. There's also another NBA top 75 legend guy. Like, it's not a smuck.

I'm not comparing him to Zion. Come on. All right, next team. The Brooklyn Nets. Damn. I mean, it would be... This is hard, because nobody accomplished anything in that jersey, really. I guess...

None of my talking about it's Dr. Jay. It's Dr. Jay. It's Dr. Jay. I was thinking Jason Kidd, Kevin Durant, I don't know, it's Dr. Jay. I think it has to be, yeah, it has to be Dr. Jay. I think with what he meant to basketball as a whole, and then also including the level of pair he was, easy it has to be Dr. J.

Inspirational Zelle. Yeah. And who would be second? Would it be Kevin Durant? Like, even though it was only there for a couple of years? Personally, I'd say KD. Secondly.

No, it would be Jason Kidd after that. Oh, because he made the finals? Yeah. Okay. All right. The Golden State Warriors. Is it Wilter Steph? It's Steph Curry.

I can't believe you just asked that. This is a trick question. Do you really act like there was an option here? It's Steph Curry. well cut and dry cut and dry not even close I almost made a bad joke

okay the Houston Rockets Hakeem Malajuan Hakeem Yeah easily Hakeem Easily Hakeem Who's second Is it James Harden number two

Yes I think it got to be Hardin Yeah Is he like Hakeem's obviously Number one is James Hardin Just as easy number two I think so Yeah, yeah, I would say so.

I don't think there's, I don't think there's anyone necessarily in that conversation, for real. They don't have a lot of grates in their history. Yeah. Damn. Yeah, exactly. They're really lacking.

But hey, they got lucky, so it is. The Los Angeles Clippers. This is bleak, man. It's either Chris Paul or Blake Griffin. Who are we giving the nod to? I feel nasty picking Blake Griffin. Really? okay cool then i'll give it to chris paul what's the argument for blake over chris paul what's the argument

for blake over chris paul he was there a little bit longer like blake wasn't even the best version of blake riffin wasn't even a clipper that that 20 that 2015 playoff blake was ungodly he was insane that is true that is true but his first year in detroit first full season detroit was different bro yeah all around blake griffin for sure that's the year we saw skill blake griffin that still had a little bit of athleticism he was crazy yeah exactly i think i have to go chris paul personally yeah not a lot of great options with this team christ paul by default they could have been in kawai but he's made a glass they've been in the mud for decades yeah the clippers yeah the clippers history is bleak as hell dude yeah well poor what a poor franchise we have one more

ticot to do this one is going to be was another one of our bread and butters an old versus new this man is slurping it's going to be old versus new point guard edition glazing whoa so I'm going to name some point guards you guys tell me which one's better

old or new let's be former players and current players on the same team so which NBA point guard was better old versus new Trey young or Pete Marevich listen

respect to Pete Marevich, I bet you were a boss in your day, but you could not hold Trey Young if he was playing with one arm tied behind his back. I'm giving Trey Young the nod. I just know that he's a better basketball player than Pete Marevich. If you put Trey Young back in that day, bro, they're going to think he's doing some voodoo wizard. It would not be real.

Did he have him burn to the state for witchcraft, it'd be crazy? Exactly, bro. No, a lot of people overrate Kyrie Irving because he's flashy. Pete Marevich was the OG of that. He was overrated from being flashy, and Kyrie was way more skilled than he didn't make Marevich. Pete Marevich, my big, most overrated player in NBA history. Even back in the day, all he did was run around and fucking throw fancy passes,

and people were like, oh, man. The kids love the-stricken people. They were stricken people for sure. O.G. Respect, though. All right. This one, I'm being loose with the turn point guard. Alan Iverson or Prime James Hardin

Alan Iverson Prime James Hardin I know people want me to say Alan Iverson I think I'm going Prime James Hardin It sucks But it's Prime James Hardin for sure But we're

And I think it's kind of unfair though It's kind of unfair We're talking about With this franchise though Right That is true It's just old versus new I don't know

It's not much to say Prime James Hardin I want to ruffle feathers It's not interesting to say current James Hardin versus prime alan i would have picked it yeah exactly prime james hard for sure it's not even close bro yeah i don't want to say it's not even close to be disrespectful but let's be real it's really not close no respect allan iverson the finals run is an impressive notch on his resume something that james hardin doesn't have i'm going against him it's alan iverson i'm not going to

play allan iverson's a better player because he won one more playoff game in his perfect run that listen james hardin couldn't do it yeah he got to game seven the conference finals i'm sorry dude they missed 27 straight 3s I'm still going him Exactly Alan Iverson never missed 27 straight 3s He got he got a bucket when it was necessary And James Harding couldn't do it Yeah you put

You put Alan Iverson in the same type of infrastructure Maybe this is a different conversation But it's not right now And that's just the hypothetical James Arden He said exactly We're on the side You're wrong for that But it comes down

There's only been several players Who ever been the best score in the NBA and a top three to five passer at the same time, it's like LeBron, Yokic, Hardin. I got to go Hardin. All right, go ahead and lose those playoff games. Aln Iverson, Airerson, playoff winner. Oh, no.

Next up. You'll see. Jason Kidd versus Luca Donchich. Is Luca already better than Prime Kid? Yeah, for sure. Is he? He's played five seasons and made four first-team all-N-BAs. remind the kids how good prime jason kid was listen prime prime jason kid as a passer is ridiculous

and prime jacin kid was out here making back-to-back finals with richard jefferson on one side kenya martin like they they didn't have too too much that listen he did have Vince carter but listen yeah you're talking too much you get glossed over Vince Carter but still but it's like you still have no shooting on that team whatsoever and they are shooting goes 2001 so listen relative exactly relative to where everybody else had they had even less shooting and Jason

Jason Kidd was still doing stuff back to back finals I want to give it to kid they're both like top tier passers of all time Luca's a way better score kids a way better defender it's kind of tough I don't like Lucas Lucas

Give me 30 10 and 10 Give me Luca bro Luca Luca be crying I don't like him do Jason kid I'll go Luca but just barely I'm just giving Luca better for the doubt

for he's going to keep getting better, but it's close. TikTok, aging like milk. Ladies and gentlemen, that is the end of our episode. If you're still here, what should they comment?

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