The Deep 3 Podcast - Making The Official NBA "Fun To Watch" Tier List | TD3 Live

Episode Date: October 9, 2024

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damn right when you start going live you see donovan give the biggest yon you've ever seen i'm so sorry i'm so sorry i thought i could squeeze it in onk umc i thought i wouldn't be caught it's like five o'clock while matt normally a nap is like about this time i'm sorry five o'clock's that normal last time a very proper time to be awake you'd be napping at 5 oh my god what time you go to sleep sleep it's just a quick nap you know that's it just a little recharge

I like to be horizontal sometimes so it's okay some of the chat said 3 p.m. is here but the stream is not my guy restart your browser this is a you problem you are a loser I was extreme

I just said Google Chrome's a little slow Welcome back, everybody. Right now we've got to send you guys trickling in at the start of the stream. For those watching, after the fact, as you see by the title, today we're going to be making

the official tier list for the 2024, 2025 season of the most fun teams to watch in the NBA. We're going to give every single team a grade based on their watchability, essentially a league pass ranking, but in a tier list. This is how we do it.

This is how we do it. I'm very curious to see where you guys have a couple teams. Because there's like there is a version of an NBA team that people call fun, but you're just trash and we're just trying to be nice, right? And we just label you fun. I don't do that to certain teams because I will be calling bad teams bad. I'm not calling them. Fun and NBA discourse oftentimes means ass but young. That's all it means is are your players have an average age of under 24? Are you bad? Both these check yes. Fun team. exactly and for most for most fans that's actually not that's actually not very true because there's a lot of players on the pistons who are under 24 specifically last year ass not the type of fun that people would like to indulge you know coming into the season they were called a fun team though they people thought they'd be a fun team for last year coming before the season definitely

yeah i kind of think they'll be a fun team now so i think if anything it applies to you're following for it. This is what happens. Yeah. And you are, you are only fun for three weeks. And then we figure out that you're actually trash.

And then we're like, I'm not going to watch you. Like, that's how, that's a majority of NBA fans. I promise you did not watch a front to back Pistons game

after November 13th. Shout out to Elena for tipping $6 and Walking 37 for tipping $3. Starting off the stream right. Appreciate y'all. But yeah, man. Before we get into the tier list of the most fun team,

as always we have news you know some new stories to talk about around the league things that are going on and I want to start off with one of the funniest new I think we'll call him Kauaiisms the new Kauai quote that we've got to add into the bag

of Kauai moments he was asked of his new teammates what has stood out to him so far and he said nobody said out to me so far straight up now

he's a funny guy man Donovan, if you're, say, like, say someone, like, I don't know, Kai Jones, how do you take that information? If it was anybody else, I would be like, yo, like, is there beef? Like, what's good? It's Kauai Leonard. So I'm just like, I got it. Like, you can't take, exactly. You can't take anything that he says as disrespect because he, all he is saying, he says

everything in the most matter-of-fact way to where it can't even be taken as opinion. Like, I feel like everything Kauai says is just a straight observation of what is going around. Because even before that, they were like, oh, yeah, what stood out to you? He just started listing names. He didn't say anything special. He just read off the roster. Like, he's not wrong. Those players do play for the Clippers.

He has chat GPT brain, bro. It's a straight, like, information tries to get them as correct as possible and just tell you the raw truth. There's a spreadsheet, his brain that he just pulls from an Excel sheet. Kawhi sounded like, like, whenever you got a book that you had to read for class and you didn't read it, so you just, like, started listing off, like, the bullet points. Like, he did not know anything about Kai Jones's game. He does not know anything about any of the new editions game, not how they play, not where they like to be on the court. He just knows that they wear the same jersey as him, and that's all that matters.

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They're honestly like the lowest, the lowest tier of ramen. The cups are worse than the packet to you? That's true. That's very true. The packet you can like control a little more. You can customize a little more. The cups come pre-seasoned. So you have to like do that.

It's better if you can boil it and then put the season. and after, after you drain the water. That's true. The cup noodles is also the thinnest, and they feel like, they feel the worst. Whereas, like, the packing ones, the noodles have some body to them.

They're not too bad. This is a discourse are fucking here for. This is why you click on the stream. Top ramen discourse. This is a relatable conversation, man. Exactly. And Maroochin's the best brand. If you eat Nissen ramen,

that shit is disgusting. Wait, wait, wait, wait, what? What's the best brand? That's not how you say it, my guy. How you say it? Marruchin is the best brand. I don't know Maruchon, I don't know I've never heard said out loud

I've never heard anybody say Maroochin I've never heard anybody say it at all nobody ever has a compliment That's a straight Dragon Ball Z move Like I've never heard I haven't heard any of the above So I believe you Next next news story

Again back to actual NBA discourse New report says The Knicks made multiple trade runs At Walker Kessler before the Carl Anthony Townshade. And now obviously, Danny Aange is a known scammer. It was in the rumors that Walker Kessler is available, probably because he just wanted to see if somebody would overpay,

because that's what he does. He is a scammer, as I said before. But in the instance, imagine a world where he's not a criminal, and he actually was willing to trade Walker Kessler. Would you have liked to see a world where they did that and kept Julius Randall? I actually do think that they were actually trying to trade Walker Kesser because for some reason his name was flying around last year.

And it seems like they put him in a different position defensively, and they just, they just realized, or they just seem to realize, like, yeah, this isn't who we thought he was. But if that was the case, anyways, I actually love it for the Knicks because he's healthy, can do a few similar things on defense as Mitchell Robinson. It's cool. Yeah, I want to see, I want to see what the package would be like, because obviously, like, you're not trading Julius Randall for Walker Kessler. in that like you're not trading julius randle dante and a first for walker kessler that's probably what that's probably what dany a age was asking for okay like okay like no we're good danie age wanted two first on picks and nobody's one to do it that's pretty much it comes down to okay he could he could hit up the the chicago bulls bro and they would have like gave him

anything for you now but then you got to take vucevich back and dan yange was like hell not that needs another another first round pick to deal with his ass that would have been fun though. If you can get that lineup where instead of Mitchell Robinson who's like we've said before, it's like always hurt and you get Walker Kessler in there and now we just have like and then you have a rotation of Kessler, Robinson,

Precious. Donovan, real quick. Donovan. English and Spanish. I thought we were probably frozen just now I cut on a little late and I held my smile Someone said to the chat I don't know giving the benefit of the doubt Gotcha Next new story

Sean Sharoni has replaced Adrian Woznarowski on ESPN How did y'all feel about this? make sense make facts that's exactly what the answer is figures

no surprise yeah passing of the torch no one will hear from the athletic when it comes to like I don't know who will be able to like

recover and replace shams but cool cool beans for shams get that bag yeah I wonder how what you go ahead

no go ahead I just wonder how this is going to to work with like with like the fandul stuff because that's the part of it where when shams was working at the athletic that i always felt super super weird about that you had like the top or like one of the top whatever um news guys working directly with with a sports betting company to where you could also bet on like what's going to happen and like what is like you could bet on the news essentially especially like whenever draft season comes comes around and now that you have like ESPN bet and

Nobody uses that. I wonder if people still care the same way that they do about, like, Fandul and stuff. Yeah, I was going to say, you said, wonder what's up to Fandul. Fendil is dead. It's 100% going to be ESPN bet replacing that with the same exact moral qualms. I don't think it matters that nobody uses that. I think it's the same, you know, morals apply. It's actually worse now because now it's like...

It's one operation. Yeah, it's one being. Before Shams was, you know, representing the athletic, representing stadium-wise things, but I think he was more of an individual entity. He was like freelancing for all them essentially and having deals, but he wasn't necessarily like a full-time employee of the company. I can only assume now with ESPN that you work for ESPN and ESPN alone.

You get the fattest bag in the world. You are ESPN champs. You know, now he's straight up correlated with ESPN bet in an extremely centralized way where all of his entity is being controlled by ESPN and their number one, just like agenda right now, is ESPN bet. If you care before,

it's a little bit more weird now. And that's the thing. I agree with you. It's the same issue and it is heightened. But once again, nobody uses ESPN bet to the level that they use to the level that they use Fandul.

So I'm telling you right now, keep your third eye open. Don't go to sleep. All right. Stay woke. Stay awake. Stay woke. Because it's happening.

They doing stuff, all right? Understand. Mo, I want your opinion on this. This is a rather large news story that broke yesterday that I feel like is specifically tailored to you and your interest. PJ Tucker is stepping away from the Clippers, per shams. How do you feel about this and where do you want to see

the PJ Tucker sweepstakes end with him playing for? There's so many teams out there that will be on their knees in front of PJ Tucker's front door begging for his services. begging for him to be a bully and stand in that corner with two touches a game. Wait, Mo, are you a, are you a PJ Tucker munch? Why is this, like, so perfectly crafted for you? No, he's a PJ Tucker. He's a, he's a hater.

Every time we talk about irrelevant players, he's always like, he might as well be PJ Tucker. He's always throwing PJ Tucker under the place. Really? I do. Yes, you've done it several times. He's your go-to for being a nobody in the NBA at this point. no no no no no no i've never hated p j tucker once in my life bro i respect to shoot collection are you getting me right now artist you collection in the league i've seen them vlogs before

no this is hilarious i've never seen a player who was at a stage of his career where he impacts so little but be in so many headlines for forcing his way out of teams and being so picky about who he plays for it did feel strange the amount of headlines i've seen in p j tucker versus the amount of plays I've seen a PJ Tucker in the last year. I don't know how awkward that must be for his agent to be like, yeah, like bro, PJ Tucker has so much static in some stern feeling

towards his team. He's like, yo, agent, go tell him that I feel this way. Tell him to trade me. Also, there's stuff, make these harsh demands. Like, he's a superstar. Is he just like, or you're PJ? The agent's like, oh, fuck, here we go again. What do you want me to do? I'm about to look this up. Let me,

let me look at PJ Tucker's stats for the last couple of years. He has been, like you said, though, he has been a cardio guy for the last couple years. Last year, 1.6 points per game. The year before that in Philly, two points per game. The year before that, okay, not going to lie. 7.6 in Miami. Year before that, though, 3.7.

He's averaged under four points a game for the last. Now, granted, points isn't really what matters. him, but he also hasn't been the elite defender he once was. 2021 bucks, PJ Tucker, has not walked through those doors in quite a while. All I need you to do is stand in the corner. All you do is stand in the corner and take three. You've taken your job is you take one shot in the NBA. When you go to practice, I better not see you take anything inside the three-point line.

Don't take anything above the break. You stand in one corner, you stand in the other corner. You make one of those a game. You should be averaging six points exactly again. One left corner three, one right corner three. That's it. That's it. You have not been doing.

No. No back doors? If it's there, fine. I bet not see PJ Tucker cutting. You stay right there. I will say. It's clearly the party's about to stop for PJ Tucker pretty soon. Not too much time left in the league.

Prime PJ Tucker was so good, man. I miss Prime PJ Tucker when he was a lot of Rock is playing his six-five center. Six-five setter, PJ Tucker was an era. You're the only human and human history to ever utter the words. I miss Prime PJ Tucker. He was a goon defensively. It's him and PJ Tucker. Dude, he was nice.

I wanted him on the Lakers for so many years. Every time I saw him doing good shit with the Rockets. He did a basketball back. Once we got LeBron, I was like, man, we need a B.J. Tucker at the four. He was a problem. He was so good. The Pistons need him bad, though. Someone said, Isaac,

tell me what team drafted, PJ Tucker. I don't think he got drafted. Didn't he play overseas? No, he was underdrafts. He played overseas, yeah. He was just a random pickup like Patrick Beverly. Someone said he's a role player at best.

Yeah, a dope one. That's what he was. He was a sick-ass role player, and I liked it. He was a six-five ball dude. He was badass. Yeah. I liked that in everywhere. next news story.

There's a report that said LeBron James joined the Lakers partly because of how they handled the final seasons of Kobe Bryant's career that was put up by Lakers daily. You know, that sounds like a reasonable thing to report, you can kind of just say that and throw it out there.

Who's going to disprove it, right? Who's going to tell you that's incorrect? It stands to reason. Well, this time it was LeBron James who told us that was incorrect. He came to Twitter and said, I came to the Lakers because I wanted to help Genie win championships,

bring that spark back to the Lakers and see my family blossom in SoCal. Why would I make a decision on how someone else is treated. Mama always said, stay out of grown folks' business with a shrug emoji. How did you feel seeing this?

What did you take away? The greatest liar in NBA history continues. I don't, okay, so I don't doubt that, like, that what LeBron tweeted were, like, the main motivations for him going towards, like, to Los Angeles. I do think that, like,

maybe like indirectly the way that the lakers treated kobe and then the fact that he was still like in the good graces of the lakers and then you could still have like that relationship to point to that may be played like a little part but i'm sure brawn wasn't like looking at coby's contract and me like okay yeah like i'm gonna do that in seven years you know yeah so yeah the first comments is shutting down the rumors That's what I've ever reported that. I know right. He's got shit on.

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Okay. Okay, Elliot Cobo. I see you. What a name. I thought he was going to be so good. But I thought it was left-handed Tony Parker. What? And shout out to Rostalua for tipping $5.

We appreciate you, man. Dude, Elliot Colbo was such a throwback. That was the first year I was super into the draft, and I was so sure he was a late-round steal. Yeah, no, 2018 draft was special. All right, let's have some brain rot discourse. Which player has the most pressure to perform at a superstar level this year,

James Harden, Jason Tatum, Paul George, or Damien Lillard? Who the hell is expecting Paul George to be a goddamn superstar? I don't know me. He kind of has pressure to perform, though, because, you know, he formed a big three. He does, though, because they are expected to be in contention again with the third star there. And if he's not a star star, they're not going to be able to outgun the Celtics. Like, they need him to be amazing.

He just signed the contract for four years. He just got his money. He is good. Like, if Paul George doesn't, if Paul George doesn't, like, play up to the expectations, what's going to happen? We're going to keep talking about Paul George, the way that we have talked about him for the last. He was clear. He's like, it's fine. He's not the answer here. He's, he has the least pressure here. But he has some pressure. He has some pressure, though. Yeah, definitely a little bit, a little bit, yeah. Not the most. He'll put up like 20, 24, 25, you know, because Tyrese and Joel's there. But people see Paul George. He's an afterthought at this point. At this point is a career. The most is clearly day. And it's, I don't, I don't think it's close either. Because I think for, for, for Paul, I think for James Harding. Who else was on the graphic? Jason Tatum and hard.

Yeah, for the other three, the way that we think about that player is fairly solidified. Like, unless Jason Tatum comes out and averages 30 and answers all the questions about, like, him having a bag. We kind of think that Jason Tatum is anywhere from, at best, the fifth best player in the league to at worst, like the seventh or eight. And he can come into the season, have the same type of year as he did last year. He's still going to be in that range. The way that we think about James Hardin's career and Paul George's career, already done. Dames still has an opportunity to change the narrative of his career and to change this specific situation. So, yes, he has the most pressure on it.

Yeah, this is not even close. The answer is so clearly Damien Lillard. I quote this on my Twitter before we started streaming. I said that I do not think it is an exaggeration to say that Damon Lillard's performance this year an ability to be a superstar again like defines the buck's next five to ten years of basketball if he's not a superstar and this trade doesn't work and they go out in the first round again because he is

hits that age cliff of a small guard they are squarely fucked Brooke Lopez old Chris Middleton old Dame old The oldest human league I think or the second oldest Probably it's probably so like if he is a superstar again They can win a championship yonis can make history

He can continue to strengthen his resume as the best buck ever and do all the things they wanted to do when they got damn if he's cooked and not going to be a superstar that team is not going to last more than 18 months together and we're gonna yannis's loyalty will be extremely tested even as strong as it is yeah i mean did it is the nas is stolen the team i don't think so i don't remember his but he has a torn ace ys oh shit you're right damn see the nas is not in not in this corner can't run up and down the court picking his nose or whatever tough bro stuff yeah Giannis is dwindling as we speak.

But also, there's so many other young guards who are, like, coming up for Damien Lillard's spot. Like, if Lamella Ball becomes an all-star this year and has equal to better numbers than someone like Damielder, that's another young guard who just, like, leaped you. And it seems like we see, I think it's universal at this point, or at least it was last year that someone like Tyreys Halliborne was better than Day Miller last season. So it's like, he's quickly and leaf-frogged, and he definitely has. as an opportunity, like you said, Donovan, to excel and meet those expectations at the bucks set for them. Yeah.

In the, in the east right now, if you just go through all the guards, it's Brunson, it's Maxie, it's Brunson, Maxie, DeMitch, Tyrese Halliburton, right? Off rip, those four, you can say at the end of the year, 100% are going to be, are going to be better. You can, hey, listen, Cam Thomas is going to be okay. You're going to have Trey Young. like we can you guys are trolling me for a second what the fucking took so long to say tray young's name to put a third guard out of your mouth second guard really the first this and

this is why I didn't say his name so early I relax relax relax but yeah but you but you can go like five or six names deep before you get into the dame conversation so it's kind of like a lightning McQueen getting passed up situation speaking of young guards another lightning McQueen metaphor. Tom Haberstro on Reed Shepherd. He's not Steph Curry. But I think it's the closest thing to Steph Curry we've seen in a long time. Oh my God. Let's fucking go. I've been needing a good Steph Curry comp in my life. Last one was Buddy Healed and then Tray Young didn't work out. I need the second coming of Steph Curry narratives. I need it injected in my veins. I'm so glad he's back. You love this one boy, man. I just love this narrative because it

never works and it's so funny because everybody's the second coming of step curry and they also never are so it's always great but i do think reed is going to be amazing so it's good to see some gas from him in the you know the mainstream media getting a aggregated online but why even why even though it's not going to work out it's like come on man even come on man you're just setting yourself up for an all-time failure of a quote and then that'll be what you are remembered as tom habitro i'll never see your name ever again probably But when I do, I'll think of that, what you just say. Again, he doesn't say Steph Curry.

He said explicitly he's not. But he says it's the closest thing to Seth Curry we've seen in a long time. I guess that's not crazy. What's the closest thing we've seen in a long time? Trey. I guess that's the second closest we've seen since Curry came to the league. I would say Damien Lillard. Yeah, Dane.

Can Reed be the closest thing we've seen since Damon Lillard? That's not insane to say. That's not a hard part of it. Yes, three or four degrees away from Steph Curry. Keep my goat's name out of your mouth. Stop using his name in comparisons. Nobody can shoot the way that Steph Curry can. Nobody will come close to the shooter that he is.

Stop using it because all you do is disrespect Steps to legacy and set all these other players up for failure. And like Mo said, set yourself up for a bad take in four years. Let's relax. Disrespect his legacy? You glazer. Nobody is disrespecting his legacy. Don't you put Steph Curry in the same sentence.

okay in this don't do it man ready to rum he ready to rumble over in the same don't don't put him in the same independent clause that is the most glaze you've ever done on this the most glaze you've ever witnessed on this five the same you know what we do for lebron no independent clause no dependent clause i bet i see a semicolon and then a statement none of it none of it keep him out of step stanza get him out of here four sentences of separation If I see a haiku with Steph's name in it, I'm on your ass. All right. Relax.

Wow. Shout out to Zay 161 for tipping $5. He said, love the stream, guys. Haven't missed an episode. I wish to be as big of a hater as Donovan one day. I'm sorry to say you never will be. It's not really a thing you can strive for and succeed in, but I bet you can come close as a nice second place.

Not only did I work on this, right? Did I work on my hater? I have great hating genetics. okay that's true I was born like this generational hater

raised by the hater he didn't know positivity till he was already a man next week related to death care it was already too late yeah

but then it was blinding NBA GM survey came out GM survey came out today the most interesting part most of it was pretty chalk the thunder were voted as the best team in the west

Celtics out east position groupings as you would think Luka and point guard I forget who was shooting guard actually That was a word And shooting guard By like 10% of the demo booker Which like I understand coming off the

Of the playoff run But kind of that was kind of interesting though Yeah That it was You know that wide The most interesting part I think That we have right here Who do you want to take the last shot

The GMs still voted for Steph Curry 40% Oh, my God. Yeah. Let's talk about who's clutch and who's not. Oh, my goodness. Second place was Kevin Durant. Third place, Luca Donchish, and tied for fourth was Nicole Yokic and Damian Lillard.

They're also receiving one vote was Demard Rosen, Shea, Kyrie Irving, and a random-ass Jamal Murray pick. Jamal Murray. I get it. Shout out the Denver Nuggets GM for voting for Jammer. I mean Yeah Damn no LeBron No I mean

The world still doesn't think That these clubs like that But I think like you see that with Steph And KD The The thinking of being able to think of the person Who's taking the last shot As like a shooter

I think that pushes You know people's pick a lot Because obviously like Luca is taking Like Loki can knock down any shot in the world but he's not you don't look at him and be like oh yeah he is a knockdown shooter in the same way that stuff is in the same way that kd is and so that comes to mind so it's like okay whether we need a three or a two i'd rather have those guys than luka and you know et cetera yeah some of the chat is spamming you guys hate devon booker where did that come from what do we say i don't even know

who be hitting devon booker i literally i literally just said that it was surprising that the gap For the GM was that big between him and an aunt. What are we talking about? I'm trying to spew TD3 propaganda. We do not hate Devin Booker. That is so false.

No. We don't like the Suns. I don't like the Suns. I don't give a fuck about the Suns. I have no opinions on the Suns. Good or bad. Next tweet we got. The Dunk Central put out this

clickbait post, or engage in Betis to say, pick one to have a bounce back season on the graphic. Ben Simmons, Andrew Wiggins, Jordan Poole, and DeAngelo Russell. Why is D. Delo there? Jordan Poole, biggest contract of any young player of his crop of quality, had a terrible season. Andrew Wiggins, forgot how to play basketball, never got back to the levels of finals contributor he was in before.

Can't get that 17.9 now. Ben Simmons can't play basketball games. DeAngelo Russell, I don't know. Bad vibes. I don't know why he's here He averaged like 20 His lives last season Bro

Like that was his best season Since he was a Brooklyn net And he's over here You want to ask him Yeah how can you bounce back from this? What? I mean he did bad the playoffs Obviously that's what the core of it is about

He always does It's not a bounce back If this is what he always does He's very good in the regular season Very not good against the Denver Nuggets Is what it is Yeah We should know his game by now

This is very disrespectful cool who's on the who's on who's like who's it on no list for you guys though pick one have it's up to me benson probably pool i don't give a fuck of jordan pull is a pass next season on the washington wizards i mean i don't i don't care if it happened but i think that he had the better shot oh yeah yeah no the other guys yeah jordan pool was pretty good in the second half of the year when he went to the bench and wasn't asked to like run the team he looked a lot better so i would also expect that but if i had pick one that i want to see easily ben simmons i think ben simmons is probably probably the most likely to because, hey, this man, I just realized he, this is his contract year.

And he's been able to chill, wound around or whatever, getting paid the same amount, 40 whatever a million a year. But that check is running out. And if he wants to go ahead and see, you know, some can season be a career, have some longevity. He needs to perform this year. He needs this. He's more than ever. Yeah. I wish I can get paid 40 million to put on Gucci outfits, man. What a life. What a life he's living. 40 million to put that shit on. Great job. Wow. It's powerful.

We're never getting in the Ben Simmons bounceback season. Yeah, I'm done expecting it. Chat, it is time for the thing you are all here for. The thing from the title, we are going to put every single NBA team into a tier list based on how fun they're going to be to watch this year. The official TD3 leak pass rankings, the teams we got to keep our eye on. Let's roll. Okay.

As you guys see, I got this tier list, man. Every single NBA logo on here, we can go team by team. I debated on if I should keep it S through F tier or like label them, must watch, yon, whatever. I kept it S through F tier just to not get caught up in minutia. But yeah, man, you guys know how it works. We're going strictly off a watchability, how fun they are, how entertaining they'll be, not the quality of the team, just how much we want to watch them. Okay.

Let's do it. Where do you want to start? Mo, you picked the first team. uh let's talk about the new york nix okay it's pretty obvious donovan you don't have them at s probably where do you have yeah i do yeah i do of course i have the nixen s tier this is where are you in the chat where are you put in the next yeah i think like there there is some there is some potential for them to drop down to like a because if if cat's there and then like the defense takes a legitimate hit, then watching Nick games can be a little bit more frustrating if they're just

getting like, you know, points ran up on them. But overall, Brunton having five out spacing like in this way is going to be great. And then you still have like the Nova, the Nova guys, you're still going to have those vibes. If Kat's having a very, very good game, that is going to be fun to watch, you know, so. This is so obviously, yes, dear. It's not, yeah, these motherfuckers are friends. Fuck that. Let's get straight to the chase. They're homies, hooping, and one of them has the coldest celebration in the league. You got Big Per,

and also you have, like, someone who's the complete opposite of Big Pur. Tibbs in the corner. Mean mugging, looking mad at everything. To cut the yap, shut up. These guys are buds. The S-tier. Pows! Great time to watch.

The bestest of buds. Power friendship is easily S-tier. Carleton Towns is the story of the year so far. It was meteoric, came out of nowhere, immediately launches them up. They might have been S-tier already with McHale Bridges being added. They were already going to be crazy adding cat into it. They're probably a top two team on this list if we're ranking them 1 through 30 of fun to watch this year.

Just because what you said, Donovan, whether it's good or bad, I don't know. The intrigue of needing to see what happens to Carleton in the first two weeks of the season, I almost guarantee I'm going to watch more of them than any other team. They're calling them Bodega Cat now, Donovan. How do you feel about that? kind of fire. Okay, where are we going with the Milwaukee Bucks? You know, they got Damon Yannis.

That is, in theory, extremely fun to watch. They got Doc Rivers. In practice, extremely not fun to watch, usually. I don't know what version of Dame will get, but their other supporting cast aren't exactly fun, but Janus carries a lot. But does he carry to A or S tier? I don't know.

I think, yes. It can't be as. I think Janus carries them to A, but everybody else is probably around a B. Because I don't, I don't have a lot of hope for them. Like, I don't think that they're going to be amazing. But also, if we're going off the metric, and so let me ask you all this, how much of just general intrigue plays into this? Because I am very intrigued by the Bucks. I want to see what happens with them.

Good point. We should make sure it's not. Yeah. Yeah. It's not most interesting teams. It's fun to watch. So good point. We've got to divorce ourselves

and that in our head a little bit. We can't necessarily pick train wrecks. You know, it's actively fun to watch, enjoyable to watch, rather than intriguing. Yeah. Sounds to me like a beat at best.

Okay, yeah. I don't know. But they have Johnstone, like even on like a night-to-night basis. Name me four players on that bench. Three of them have to be entertaining. All right. You got beef.

What do you think? In theory, I want to say, A, because Janus is Janus, and he's going to play 10 minutes every night, and they have Damien Lillard, but the entertaining a part about thinking about the Bucks as a whole is seeing these two play together and do all the things that we initially thought they would do together, working units and together, but they don't.

They're still fun, but they don't feel fun together. So for that, I'm okay with me. Yeah, Chris Middleton isn't even healthy. start the year, to the surprise of absolutely fucking no one. So it's going to be a lot of Gary Trent, a lot of Torian Prince, and a lot of Wright. Hey, what's your favorite duo?

Torre and Prince and, uh, what's his name? Darvindham? His username? Is that what you said? No, I said, what's dude's name again? Oh, dude's name? Yeah, yeah, yeah. His username. That is your man. He is back in town. All right, get the fuck out of my face. I might have

put him down the same tier. Just because you wanted to bring that shit up, I'm not going to lower him a little bit. You'll miss that mole on his head, watching it every Friday night. I'm going to get a hot needle. It's going to backfire, you're squirting your eye. Shout out to Matthew for tipping $5. He said, forget calling someone a perk. A true hater should aspire to be skip.

That man is fueled by hate. Donovan, do you aspire to be skip? That is true. Not at all. The furthest thing. And shout out to J1YN for tipping 366. We appreciate you. And shout out to Brett B for tipping $5.

However, I would like to get some hate on the board. Can I suggest the next team? Yes, you can pick the next team all by yourself. Not even suggestion. You can have the full responsibility all to yourself. Let's go. We are putting the Chicago Bulls in F tier. What?

No debate about it. I don't even want to hear any type of contrarianism. F-tier would easily. No, I'm not doing it. This team, no matter what, is going to be mid, they have a team that doesn't really make sense. They're somehow going to win 41 games, but it's going to be the ugliest, most unfun team in the NBA.

I'm putting them in F-tier. If I had to name the 10 most unfun full-time starters in the NBA, I think three of those 10 would be Nicola Vucevich, Josh Giddy, and Patrick Williams. now one of those guys I don't hate Patrick Williams as much as Chicago Bulls I don't hate Patrick Williams

but I certainly would call him unfun so like that trio probably starting for you is just the antithesis of fun I can't imagine liking a team worse I would rather watch the Nets this year 82 times a season than watch the Bulls on any given night

really it's crazy so for me person I disagree something because Modis exists and Kobe White exists on the Bulls man modest better be Lamar Oatimier one for him to make up for it. He better be a goon. He has a lot, a lot of ground to cover. Yeah. And they, listen, the Bulls still get like

the best attendance in the league. Shout out to Benny the Bull. He's holding it down. Because the starting five is not doing their job. They are not holding up their end of the market. Shout to Benny the Bull holding up the viewer retention. He's a metric mastermind. Okay. So yeah, the Bulls are obviously F tier. They have too many guards. Their most intriguing young players are currently in a log jam.

Probably going to be held back by the presence of Zach Levine, Josh Gidey, and all these other guys. Modis is going to get the burn he deserves. Is I. O'Dosum, we're even going to start? I don't know. Kobe White's not going to get more touches when he should be getting elevated. It's just a bad recipe that's not only going to be bland and not

a good team. It's going to be frustrating. Yeah. It's going to be interesting because of like the Alonzo balls of the world and seeing with Zach Levine and Modis, like, be together but it's not fun not fun at all okay next team that might be fun new Orleans pelicans how do you feel about them because they're another team they're frustrating but they're not fun like their process and the roster building has been annoying but it was annoying last year when they started yonis valentunis and no point guards and they were still pretty good

and pretty fun because Zion's crazy could be true again this year it's tough so they're not I'm still saying, but they're so stupid. But they're going to be a good team. They could get it here, though, if Zon is like, because Zon simply exists, they could be a tier. Okay, I don't know, though. But not fun.

That's what, that's why I think. That's why I think they might, for me, they're like a B. Okay. I was going to say, compare that to the bucks. Are they more or less one than the bucks? They're probably, they're probably in the same range. Yeah. Yeah, I would be.

Chat, what do you guys think? I'm seeing D's. I'm also seeing A. like I feel like it's very split here because Dejante and Trey Young was gross as fuck but Dejante and Zion with a lot of shooters around them and long defenders could be interesting

Now it's annoying they don't have a center And that they're trusting Daniel Tice to hold that shit down And a rookie but That's not a fun rating you know That's dumb and annoying that David Griffin Doesn't care about his log jam of talent But it's not going to affect the fun level I think it will affect the fun level

Is seeing Brandon Ingram still there Trying to coexist it's not only with Zon still, but also co-ings this thing with DeJonte-Murie. That will disrupt and, like, break away so many potential Zon-Williams and highlights. I don't know. They're saying he's dedicated to hitting those threes and up in the volume and knowing what he's got to do to change. I don't know. Zion?

Wait, no, no, Brandon Ingram. Oh. Ingram, okay. It's October 8th. Yeah. Yeah, that's just offseason yet. People say whatever they want. Yeah.

And I believe that Brandon Ingram, is like, yeah, I'll do whatever you want. I have a home in New Orleans. I don't want to move. Last week, didn't he say, like, that mid-range game be talking to me or something like that? He was talking about the mid-range game. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.

Yeah, he said he knows he has to shoot a lot of three. He says what the coach wants from him. But sometimes that mid-range shot look good. Sometimes he just wants it. He said that motherfucker looks good. Sometimes you can't resist desirable. He's by and his own thing with it. Yeah.

Need that. I also think. I think Brandon Ingrams can trade at the deadline. So second half of the year, we might be in for some real good. Why don't you need? The 18-footer can make me act up. But elbow will do something to me.

I'm looking at a feature, though. I think they'll start off frustrating with the second half of the year when we get to full-time point Zion. Ingram's out of here. I think we'll look at a really, really fun team. Now, what if they never do that? and they just keep doing what they've been doing

and David Griffin continues to lie to us and say that changes will be made but then no changes are made. How would you feel in that situation? I don't know. Zion one's going to still have a beard which is pretty cool. You think that's cool?

All right, you need to relax. I know this is going to go down a dark crowd. You need to be quiet. Shut him down. I think it's interesting. You should have talked about his tattoo. I think that's cool. Next team, the Portland Trailblazers.

You're going to talk about fun. They are young and they are bad. The perfect recipe for getting the label of fun. Wherever we go with the showblazers. I'm sorry. Put them boys in F. What are we talking about right now? F for the trail.

I love Donovan Klingin. Yes, put them in F. They're a piping F. Hold on. I don't know if they're a piping F. Klingin is interesting. Scoot. Interesting.

Jane Trump hurt, but interesting. Again, it's not like, we're not just. judging the competency, or how good they're going to be, or how, like... Chauncey Billups just said that Denny of Dia was one of the best players on the team. Get it out of my face. I'm not putting them on my TV. Ew, put them an F. He's going to give Deni of Dia like 40 touches a game.

I think they are marginally more interesting than the Chicago Bulls. If the Bulls are F and the Treblish deserved D. What are the point of Treblers is bad, but if they are marginal, but if they are marginal, that means that they're still in the same tier like I just slide over the line a little bit the bottom of detail no no no no no no no we like Scoot is interesting because he was a high pick

we are hoping that he is that he's like good we're hoping that he's interesting I think Klingin will be fun for sure Shaden Sharp fun that guy jumps real high I don't know if I'd call Denny fun but he's good so like a walk through like what are we talking about

he's like NBA games They're not good players That's why they suck Clearly I'm outvoted We can go to F tier Shout out to Zubdu for tipping $3 He said as a Blazers fan Just put Portland in F tier and say nothing

My heart can't endure anymore Vocalized Slander Even if it's deserved Thank you in advance for your mercy Now he said this three minutes ago So I didn't see this Before we started slandering the trailblazers And for that I am sorry

I'm sorry man My many apologies Jesus. If you pay to tell me to not slander your team, I won't do it. There you go. I apologize for nothing I said. I believe in all of my thoughts. Okay, let's got another fun team.

The Timberwolves. Obviously, the trade to Carlety Towns. I don't think any of us aren't of the illusion that it makes them more fun to watch, but it also doesn't ruin the fact that they have Anthony Edwards and Rob Dillingham. So where are we thinking? Put them in S. I think they're an instant S. S still?

You think they're just as fun to watch as the new look Knicks? Yeah, I think so. Anthony Edwards is carrying heavy. The new rookie Rob Dillingham also already has a lot of weight in the shoulders in terms of how much fun he's forced to give us. I think they're fun. And then Dante Divencenzio hitting hella threes, too, flying around. Yeah, I think they're fun.

I think they're fun. Chat's saying Instant S. I'm also seeing the blue text of Armad Elena saying S, who was a Timber Wills fan So I'm currently being fed biased information So, Chad, I need you guys to stand the real grade Yes, uh, I'm going to DQ Sempai said I don't like Julius Randall basketball

Julius Randall plus Rudy Gobert is not a fun formula I don't know how much caring Anthony Edwards can do For the fun factor When Julius Randall's good Rudy Gobert is very good Neither of which are anything close to fun Listen, they got Nas Reid coming off of the bench

They don't have to see Rudy O'Ber play 40 minutes a game. Julius Randall is going to get traded. That's a part of the plan. Trust me, I've seen it the other day. Moe's feeling as, I'm feeling A. Donovan, you decide. I'm going this.

Ah, here we go. More merchants. There we go. Amazing. Yeah. It's carrying that hard. The lack of ore that Riegobert has, and I guess Julius Randall doesn't

like touch Anthony Edwards. It doesn't devalue him at all. So you're saying that he's sexier than Julius Randall and Rudy Gobert are bad to watch. His game is sexier. Now if we want to talk about looks, we can unpack that fully. We're going with the Utah

Jazz. Honestly, like a B. What? B? Like a C? Like a C? Like B at best. They're not bad. No, they're good. There. See, the thing is, If you are a nerd, they are very fun to watch. But they are also only fun to watch for like five months.

Then they try really hard to lose on purpose after that and tank their rating by starting with the most... Yeah, like, see, I guess. Yeah, I'll go see. Listen, it's nasty because it's Utah. But listen, in October, November, healthy Lowry, they'd be having some games. No, Will Hardy offense is incredibly fun to watch until he tries to make it bad on purpose. And then you're like, fuck, man. now I've got to stop watching jazz the rest of the year.

I didn't watch a single jazz game the last two months of the season because they didn't want me to. You got these jazz games. You got these jazz games that started like 930, 10 o'clock, late night hoops. Does anything happens? They're kind of solid. It's like a Pac-12 after dark situation.

That's crazy. That's exactly what it is. Okay. Let's do a fan favorite. The Golden State Warriors. Where did we begin? This is so tough and conflicting. You could say yes because Steph Curry.

is one of the five most entertaining players to ever touch on a basketball court. But then you could say something like a C or a B because everything else that comes after his name is not fun to watch. I'm seeing straight S and straight D. So volatile. Half the chat is a Curry Glazer that's going to give him S no matter what. And half the chat are Warriors haters that are like, God, no, I'm not watching Melton and Buddy Healed.

Anthony Mountain's nice though He is but he's not fun This is a beat this is a B TOT team It's generous as fuck It's still Steph Curry Like Oh you guys are such ore merchants man You wanted to put

You wanted to put the blazers high Because Shady and shark jumped high Kamika high I said D I didn't say hi That's what I'm saying When you already have Seth Curry And you have a guy who could jump high

I mean, listen, that's two things. That's pretty, that can get you somewhere. All right, man, B tier, I guess. Listen, Steph, you, you're carrying all the interactions for this franchise, all their impressions on Twitter and I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. I think they may be more, I didn't get to see my piece to it. They may be more frustrating than they are fun to them. I agree.

I will make it deal with you. Leave the Warriors and B, and I will co-sign your pick for the Hawks. I don't give a damn about. But your goddamn coson. You keep it. Hey, fuck that. What's the Kerry's name? See.

I should have politic his way to Steph Curry freaking propping up. Get out of here. We should put them in D, honestly. What? Put it in D. Just right now. Yeah, fuck that D.

Who do you think you are? Y'all would rather watch the jazz than the Warriors? You know, lost your mind. Yes, D tier. Oh, y'all are tripping. Trying to collusion your way to a good, Steph Curry grade.

Unbelievable. They said, they said, I try tamper. It's not tampering. I was just trying to We're just trying to negotiate That's all

It was the most up front Unapologetic tampering ever God damn You could have texted me that I just want to see Where his head was that I wanted to know what he was thinking Hey the more I'm thinking about

I'm thinking F2 See that's disrespectful Y'all don't respect greatness And it's okay It's actually not okay But we'll live with it I'll live with it Where are you going

With the Dallas Mavericks Oh, S. ETS. What? If the Minnesota Timberwolves can be S-tier because of Anthony Edwards, you are goddamn right. The Mavs are going to be S-tier because of Luca Donchitz and Kyrie Irving. If that's the standard we're setting, the Mavs have to be S-tier. Yeah, the crossovers, the deep shooting, Kyrie and Luca doing it from the post, the lobs that Lucas is going to be thrown to Derek lively, who's apparently, like, has Yonis and his DNA, too.

Put them an ass Easy ass dear So many of these teams Are inconsistent day to day Sometimes you go and watch The Timberwolves And you see Anthony Edwards Taking a lot of mid-range shots

And it's not so pretty He can't dunk anymore It's no An off night The math is almost never Have an off night When you have Kyrie and Luca combined In terms of fun

They have off nights But in terms of funability You know what to get From those two guys They are gonna get fucking buckets Funability They will get their buckets Where you learn new words

And dope God damn sense For making up words for Luka. On the fun scale, they are consistent as hell. And I know some people don't like watching Luka because he's a whiner. And to that, I say, get over it. And watch these fucking buckets. I love watching Luka Donchitz.

Now watch these skip passes. How about that? I hate watching. I agree. Let's put him in that. They're easiest. Okay. Don't file them.

Facts, like, shut up. Next one. He's got, what are we talking about? Where do you want to? go with the Houston Rockets, the deepest young core in the league. This is your man. This is Reese Shepard. Tell me how I should feel about the Rockets. Great.

I think, you know, started the show we said. The label fun is often applied to bad young teams just because we have to give them something. Because you can watch and hope that these young players can turn to stars, and that's fun, right, to see what could be. That's the Houston Rockets.

Except they're also going to be very good. So you have the most projecting ever with like their 56 young stars And they're also going to be probably in the play-in. And they also have maybe the best dunking trio in the league with Jalen, Jalen Green, Cam Whitmore, and Amen Thompson. That's crazy athleticism. Going to give you highlights. Reed Shepard, yes, Tom Haberstro.

He might be the next coming of Steph Curry. That's entertaining. Sangoon's going to do Sangoon things. What I just said 15 minutes ago. He used Tom Haberstro. Not in the same stanza. The Houston Rockets are eights here. I've never seen anybody hype

of a 42 win team like this This is ridiculous It's fun I don't care if they win games It's gonna be fun They're young, they're competent They're good They have exciting young players

To me that looks like an A2 Tom Haberstrow Look what you've done To NBA discourse Why Damn They can't They can't touch S tier at all

But I think they're the most They're the most fun Young Corps I think I think they deserve A2 Shout out EME I think A3 is fun They got A2 I win I win

Yes What do you want to do with the Phoenix Sun, Zonovan? We're going to beat you I think like as a franchise Like if you If you had me put them Put the state of the franchise into cheer list I would probably put them in D

Because they have absolutely no future However right now They are still going to be around like 50 wins And hopefully we can get a little bit more health between Booker, Beal, Durant. You got a new coach in there. What is it fun? Kind of.

It's buckets, so yeah, it's fun. They're not the most fun buckets, though. Bradley Beal's not fun. Bradley Beal's not fun. That's fine. You still have Devin Booker and Kevin Durant. And they are there. That trumps everything.

But B-Tier? You think B-Tier? I was thinking C. Chat's saying D, which is a bit much for me. I don't realize. I'll go C-tier. I go C-tier. what be it is a bit much i forgot but i forgot but like i did

you some nurkish minutes ty's jones jones is there though so the offense should look smooth he's not bobo though oh oh oh oh he'd be out there putting that shit on but i don't know what he'd be doing on the court though a bobo sighting is just like oh wow like look he's in the game that's crazy let's go As if you see Bigfoot, what? Bowl Bowl doesn't do good things all the time.

But when Bull Bowl does something mundane and good, that's so much more entertaining than most players doing something mundane and good, like a bowl will blocks a shot. You're like, oh, my God, that's practically when beat. Like, that is fun. That's exciting. Yeah.

Okay, maybe they got to be beat. Maybe you're right. Maybe you win. Off of a bowl bowl argument, this is not serious. Oh, Bob be, he'd be doing some stuff sometimes. That's the only way I can put it. I'm on your side, but I don't like the angle you took. You used Bowl Bowl as your main argument to up this team.

Are you not a Bobo fan? How many teams have an Opium member? Not many. Bobo's opium? You might as well be. Damn near. Sign me up. They're probably about as fun to watch as the bucks.

They're both kind of frustrating in their own rights, getting older roster-wise, but has some really fun, big headlining start. ours it's probably fair they're in the same breath true okay let's do it opium bobo you got it mo what do you want to do with your darling sacramento kings you darling sacramento kings you do love the king they used to be my sunshine the apple in my eye cinnamon my toast crunch they were um my everything you're an idiot but then they went the head inside DeMarosen. What the fuck?

But he would play Harrison Barnes. He was like the least fun player in the NBA. At least he fit, though. Damn. You're right. Don't listen. We are doing a tierless off of fun. Don't you dare cap for Harrison Barnes. Harrison Barnes fits with the Shanghai Sharks.

I wouldn't say he fits. He just ran around. See, that's hate. Y'all call me. Harrison Barnes should be a try. I can hate on Harrison Barnes. I'm allowed. Harrison Barnes is washed.

He's a stand-up citizen. What are you talking about? He's not even washed in the slightest. He's showing rookies and, you know, all these other NBA players will be wilding out today. How to act. Great. Give him the Walter Payton teammate of the year award. It doesn't mean he's good.

He's watched as fun. He can stay in the NBA as an assistant coach. I'm sure he can. That's what I'm saying. Give Harrison Mardson's a jumpsuit right now. Oh, he looks like one, too. Not going to lie. He really does.

He really does look like it. I think the DeMarfit doesn't move me in terms of like playoffs. I'm actually projecting how good these teams will be. But I think it makes him more fun. I don't think it makes them less fun to have DeMar. I think I'll be very fun. very curious to see how Mike Brown works him in offensively

with DeMontis a bonus and how offball Damars will be willing to go. So I guess I could put him in like C, but also being on a super fun too. Max B, you can't put him higher than B. Don, what do you think?

I'm going to go from on a night to night basis. I'm going to go see they have a potential to get to B. Now, what will be fun is end-of-game situations because DeMard de Roeson is like low-key like a very very clutch player so I think when we get to those situations

because they're going to be in a lot of close games they're not blowing anybody out so dude I think they're going to be like the seventh best offense in the league like the 23rd defense every year those are the most fun teams in the league that can't defend fucking squat but are elite offensively

and they just run back and forth having shootouts they're going to be a super fun lead pass team I could put them in B. I can put them in B. Okay, I'm happy with B. The Brooklyn Nets. Donovan, where do you want to go with Cam Thomas and the gang? I am putting Cam Thomas and the Brooklyn Nets.

Let me see, I wrote it down. I'm putting them in B tier. B tier. For the first three weeks. And then after that, we're putting them in D. You are off your money. You are off your rockers. Weeks, I think, I think Cam Thomas is about to show up and go for 40 points every single night for the first month of the season.

All right. Just put this old man behind the woodshed, Mo, where do you think we should put the nets? Put him down. What are we talking about? Someone put him down. We all believe the same thing. What are we talking about? I don't believe the nets will ever touch Bs here.

I think they'll be unwatchable. garbage. I'm not going to lie. Do you not believe that Cam Thomas is about to be a chucker and about to get buckets? I do. I don't want to fucking see it ever, though. It won't be a fun bucket getting

experience. That's what I said. For the first three weeks, that's like six games. Oh, man. Three weeks are dragging it. You can, you can, your math is off also too. I'm not doing that. I'm not doing that. He's like three games a week. It's like nine games. Eight or nine games.

like two games a week two three all right either we're talking about less games so i'm talking about seven games you don't think that they'll be interesting for seven games put them in f why do you want to see your math is off i was just saying we'll go d we'll put the difference they're going to be unwatchable garbage but sometimes cam thomas will go nuts and that'll get them to d tier but every other literally what i said i said b for the first three weeks Fuck those three weeks They're not going to pass D For the first three weeks

And then they are D tier They're straight D F not D F Oh my goodness Brooklyn Nets I hate you guys Because you guys are cross-time rivals I am not rooted for you

I hope you guys go four And four in your first eight games And you are somewhat watchable I want us to get to November 3rd And it's like oh Look at the Eastern Conference standings And you see the Nets In like fourth place in the conference

That's what I hope When everyone, when everyone knows that it's a fake fourth place, yeah, that's what I want. That's what I want. What do you want? Let's love Donovan. Remember when the Wizards were first place in the conference through like 18 games two years ago? That's what I want. That happened two years ago?

I don't remember. Something like that. They were crazy. They were cruising. That's hilarious. Okay. Keep the energy going. What are we doing with the Clippers?

This is 18. This is a peak hate watch for me. I will watch them every single night to watch them implode. Oh, my goodness. There's been so much talk about James Hardin, turning back into the old James Hardin. This old man's hamstring is going to fall off the bone, like peak barbecue. I'm telling you right now, they are going to suck, and nobody will be happier to watch it than me. I can't.

I'm not going to lie. They might be F tier in terms of fun. Like, I think they'll be a decent team. They'll be competent, probably a little bit better. better than people are expecting, given they lost Paul George. But my God, is that shit going to be gross to watch? 20 shots a game with Norm Powell. James Hardin trying to be prime James Hardin, running into people's chest and flailing his arms.

Kawai, Gucci sweater, sideline. It's not going to be a good experience. Lots of Zubatch minutes. Lots of Derek Jones minutes. Lots of Norm Powell's shots. Gross, F-tier, but they will be an eight seed. I'm watching Clippers games to go to sleep. It's going to be amazing.

Putting it on in the background. D's in your life. Yeah, put him in F or D. Someone said, Bones Highland carries. Bones Highland isn't going to play. It's even worse. They're going to be playing. Nobody, everybody but Bones Highland doesn't get run.

They do not try to play him like that. Now, Bones Highland needs to go to the big three. You would love it there. I wish they gave him more minutes. I'd make them more fun. All right. The Boston Celtics. How do we feel about them?

They're fun. It's weird because we take it for granted in our head because they're just like the Celtics are going to beat the shit out of everybody. I don't know how to gauge the funness of that because they're not unfun. They're a pretty fun spread out modern team. It's not boring.

I will put them in A. I don't think they have like a singular. The issue with them is like they don't have anybody to put them over the top like the Anthony Edwards or the Lucas or even like Kairis or the world like. I like watching Jason Tatum play. People are just bad ass. But it's not.

You don't. I do. What you mean? Cap'r? I like this, like, side step three attempts. So it's a boring-ass team. Like, are they boring because they're boring? Or because you're bored of watching them win?

Because that is different. Boring to watching them win. I think, I actually think that this season of Celtics basketball might be a little bit more fun than in previous years. Because especially for the last two, we've seen them get so close that we really do not care about the regular season at all with them. And it's all been about what are you going to do? whenever you get to the playoffs, can you get the job done? And like, everyone loves to hate watch the Celtics, obviously. But now that they have the championship,

it's probably going to be a lot more free-flowing and it's out, it's not going to be so post-season focused. So we might be able to enjoy it a little bit more. I'll go with that. That's fine. You can put it to be fine. I'm fine with that. Okay.

Lakers. Where are we going to Lakers? Media circus. Immediate. There must watch, like, every night. Yeah. exactly it doesn't matter like they got j jreddick lebron's still there we got lebronathan year or whatever we got lebronathan v2 we got jj reddick we got the los angeles

circus that comes every year with all of that you got a lot of honestly some intriguing young guys like they're going to have a low-key a fun young bench we connect and max christie finally playing it's not going to be just like retread veterans like avie bradley's and walking for those doors thank god no like wesley matthews and shit like that Yeah, it's a new corner. It's A or S? It has to be S to me. LeBron is consistently one of the most fun players to watch.

Okay. I think off of J.J. Reddick press conferences alone, this would be an S-tier team. Yeah, I agree. And then you add LeBron Square on top of that. Yeah, they're easily S-tier. Yeah. Okay. S-tiered so many ways.

Charlotte Hornets. Where do you want to go with them? Healthy Lamello, Brandon Miller, Charles Lee coming in and making those boys play defense. Mark Williams blocking shots for 18 games for you. He gets hurt. How are we feeling? Six, seven, dude, catching lobs. Treshawn, man.

Hitting people with the nastiest crossovers. His name is Treshaun? Yeah. How did I know that? In the baggiest jersey of all time? Bring it swag bag. Let's talk about it. Sounds like a tier to me.

Yeah, they're easily eight tier. If you're young, you're young, confident and exciting, your A tier. Young players are inherently more fun. we love a good young core they're like really unpredictable I thought you're struggling that's crazy you watch young players for intrigue because it's exciting to see what young up-and-comers could be

that's why the Rockets are eight-tier I feel similarly about the Hornets if Lamello's healthy him and Brandon Miller is going to be so intriguing I want to see if that can be a star duo that's fun as hell yeah and the pieces around it too you got a part-time rapper

big seven-foot dude who looks like he's going to be you know one of the nice traditional bakes who can just make a career off of getting easy lobs, and then Trey Man still there too. This is great. Again, they don't got to be good, but they will be fun. I guarantee it. Lamello ball bleeds fun.

All right. Next team, I got it. You cut his hand, fun dip comes out. It's inherently fun with the lame ball. Insane. Insane. Are you, you cut his hand, fun dip will come out. We're going to Atlanta Hawks.

How fun is Trey Young and how much can he carry? because they have some unfun-ass people around him. This is a C-tier team. They are mid. Yeah, see, I could have co-signed for you, but you wanted to act like I was being crazy. No, this thing sucks. Wait, put them in D.

He's in highlights of... They got Harrison Barnes with the first pick. Put them in D. Ooh, Harrison Barnes, that dings you. You watch your mouth how you talk about Zachary Risha say. Or what? I would do no such thing. There a C.

Yeah, there's see. Honestly, I find Trey very fun to watch. He doesn't have a Brandon Miller in terms of fun ability. Janice Johnson's awesome, not, like, insanely fun. Then everybody else, bogey is not fun. Capella is not fun. O'Yec is interesting. Not fucking fun.

DeAndre Hunter, not fucking fun. Riesiesche, maybe could be something. Probably not fucking fun. It's not the most fun roster in the world at all. Yeah, this is the most, like, oralist, like, supporting cast in the entire NBA, like, easily, for sure, without a doubt. Even with the fists, you know what you got. like a Thompson twin. He got Ron Holland. You know what I'm saying? He has a personality and all

that cool stuff. Jaden and Ivy. We got Bricis A and then we got Boggs on Bogdanovich. Cool dude. I love them, but they're not fun. Jeline Johnson, very interesting though. I don't think I've ever heard Dyson Daniel's voice. He talks like one of them. Oh yeah, he's actually. I forgot. I see I have no idea what he talks like. He saw 35% in. He doesn't know. He doesn't know. did you shot 35% from Australia yeah during the Olympics with the shorter three-point line that's all right okay the Hawks can be seat here the Denver Nuggets where does Yokch get them by himself they're pretty fun maybe Aaron Gordon Lobbs Jamal Murray cooking every now and then I find Yokish fun but no not everybody does so where does that

Russell Westbrook coming in now oh that'll be fun all right I think I'll put him in this. Maybe A, actually, if I'm being real. Yes, this is a bit much. Yeah, he's fair. Yolkish highlights don't, like, get you out of the seat. His passes, do. Speak for yourself.

Oh, my God. I see those flotters. All right. We can go put them in A. Let's move on. Yeah, yeah. Those offense rebounds are going to go crazy. All right, where are you going to go next?

He's getting bothered. Chat, where do we want to go with the end? Indiana Pacers, the fastest team in the league, led by Tyrese Halliburton, a full offseason of Pascal Seaccom, getting him into the groove, some young players there, where are we putting them? I'm putting them in A, immediately. This is definitely having a question. There's no way the rest to me.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I could be asked here if Tyrese made that leap. And he could. I think it's probably a good chance he comes back out, average, in 25. Well, I don't know, because he can make shots at the same clip. Okay. I think there's like a base. line level because they're also one of those teams that like hey you can be a top three

offense in the league can't guard to save your life you will be 24th in defense and for a lot of people this will also be a hate watch candidate people were hating on tyrese after the for no reason bro he got so much flag and now after the olympics after he played zero after he played like zero minutes in the olympics yeah yeah they're pregnant on the downfall and then they won their prayers were answered so he definitely's gonna have that microscope on him again i'm who cares no defense basketball is someone the most fun brand of basketball that's really not that's my last offer definitely is what that's so you know the so we know the run is over it's good all right we're going to miami heat to me they're so not fun dude yeah i hate watching the heat

Every year I watch them begrudgingly I'd never like it Sludgeball basketball God damn I hate watching them To me they're an F But I know that's a personal problem No it's not I'm here to at least like

Make you know let you know that you're not alone I have this problem too I hate watching them Maybe DG is being fair I hate them this might be a clean sweep Let's put them in F please do it they suck entertainment wise

yeah they love watching bam out of bio when they win it frustrates me because it's the most nasty to watch brand of basketball and like I respect it good enough Eric Sporch was amazing the fact that he can make that shit into something competent is like beautiful from a coaching perspective I admire what he does

I don't like to see it watching these zones all the time be a man let these guys switch and survive tell him to pull the shorts up smack the ground exactly slap the goddamn ground. They're a solid, competent team, a very respectable 10-C that I do not ever want to watch. They're clippers.

They're clippers out east. That's exactly what they are. That's F-tier. Yeah. We're just waiting for this. Also, if they run it back, mind you, if they are wearing any type of heat culture jersey, F-tier. They are, and they're red this year.

Again, F-tier. A bright heat-culture jersey. Is he? Shut up. No, uh, Nope, nope. Don't, don't chat to me about that, man.

Washington Wizards, where do they fall on the scale of young teams? Are they closer to the Nets or closer to the Hornets? Are they up for them? Also, F tier. What?

They also suck. What? They also suck. But, Carington? Dude, imagine the Nets didn't have Camtola. No, Denny?

Woo. But they got Jordan Pools still and Alex Sarr. Bro, Alex Sarr will not be fun year one. That experience will not be enjoyable year one at all. The Kyle Kuzma Jordan Pool lead team,

okay, you know what? I am excited to watch Bilal Kulabali. Does that carry them to D tier? Absolutely not. Absolutely not. I believe in Belal and I believe in Saur long term. I don't know if this year they'll be fun by any measure of the expectation.

No, no. Stop it. We're not putting him anything above it. People coming back this season for blood. Who? Like y'all. Jordan Poole Coming back for blood

To prove people like you wrong Yeah, no, no, no Okay The Cleveland Cavaliers Another interesting one Donald Mitchell was extremely fun Darius Garland It's pretty fun

Two bigs next to them Is not inherently fun This is the most B team ever I don't know They might be C you in terms of fun I don't know Demitch carries But yeah he carries heavy

Look at teams in B You can't tell me The Kings Celtics And Pelicans and like Bucks Are just as fun as a cat They're definitely more fun, I think. It's C tier. Really?

Yeah, it's got me see. Fevernobly can't shoot this season, and we get the same thing that we've been rocking with for the last two years. Yes, this is a C2. Yeah, like they're way, they're way more effective

than they are fun. I don't know. Seeing Donovan Mitchell full-time at Poyangar was so fun at times. And you're not going to see it. It's gone. Evan Mobley at 5 is also fun It's gone

It doesn't matter Kenny Atkinson please save me Please save me please save me He better I don't know what kind of miracle He's gonna work to make them fun You might make him good It's fun

It's fitting for them We can put him to see Okay The Orlando Magic Oh this is Sludge Fest also But this is a fun sludge fest I'm going beat here

They're not fun at all. What are we talking about? Palo's awesome, but as a team, they're not that fun. Dude, they don't Rick's. Dylan Suggs is a menace. I do love Jalen Suggs, you're right. He hooped as if he's off a K2.

I think the eye, that's crazy. Have you seen him on defense? I, okay, Palo is very intriguing and very exciting as a young player, but is he fun compared to other young players? Like, I feel like he's, yes, he's better than he is fun. Because he, like, the no spacing around him, like, I don't find it's super fun to watch and I have to take these hard middies. But how we get to those middies? You know, like poetry in motion.

Let me take them out of hard middies. Dude, they stand around offensively shooting hell of bricks. KCP might save them. Maybe Jalen Suggs improves the passer, but like, dude, remember that playoff series with the, that's so flipped. Do you remember that fucking Magic versus Cass playoff series? That was the least fun playoff. Locked in on Palo. You got it.

That was so unfun. That wasn't fun at all. I think Paulo carries. Paulo carries. I am okay with C2. Because I don't think he carries enough. Yes, I think the idea of Palo carries. I refuse to believe you watch Magic games and have just as much fun as watching a Celtics game.

There's no way. You don't think that the defensive duo of Jalen Suggs and Jonathan Isaac this season on top of Palo is going to be fun those motherfuckers are playing six minutes a game together no Jonathan Isaac can't play

for four minutes straight he just gained he's getting hella weight dude what you mean he's balking up he's getting ready to play center full time soon so you think those shoulder muscles

are going to fix his knees I don't shoulder muscles shoulder muscles and prayer John's on Isaac a lot of prayer hope it helps I would love for him to be healthy

and I would love for him to be there for eight two games a year it would make them a lot more fun but I don't have faith in those knees damn okay you can't see I'm not mad at it to Philadelphia 76ers

Put them in A? It could be A. It could be A. I'll put them in S. I'll put them in S. I don't know what a S. You're putting him an S?

On a night-to-night basis for a majority of people, I think that they will be an S. I think that at the start of last season, it really like up until he got hurt, Joelle and Bede in Nick Nurse's system is more intriguing. And the fact that, like,

get to continue to see the rise of Tyrese, you add Paul George. You replace Tobias Harris with Paul George. Inherently, you are now more fun. True. So I kind of like all of that. Now, will I continue to hate watch them?

Of course. But they are a good team. They are intriguing. They check a lot of the boxes that fun is. Best I can do is A. All right. Hey, let's hate. Put them in A. Yeah, I was going to put them in A.

I was going to put them in S. That's fine. Although I love it, but. I don't want to stack the S up too much, and I see a couple more teams coming up. I don't think there should be more than, like, five or six teams in S. And Sixers are the top of A, but S is pushing it. Yeah. Okay.

Detroit Pistons. You could put them in F or D. I think D needs a little more love, and they slot him perfectly. They're interesting. I'm genuinely going to be happy to watch them this year. I'm excited actually. I'm praying that a coaching change. I'm praying that Monty Orleans was the issue. So I will be glued to my TV for at least four games to see if a new competent coach can make them be decent at best. Can we give the Pistons the net trading? Your B tier for the first three weeks of the season and they're probably D tier. Sure. Now they're both in D tier right now. So perfect. They both have conditional Bs if everything goes well, but probably more like D tier. Businesses are going to have more longevity with their deed, though, something because they have Kate Cunningham and run all in, too,

Wendy, and I, what's crazy? We're going to have longevity in their D tier. That's nuts. So that's a Kyle Anderson and Joyer for tipping $3. He said, ask Mo to spell Zachary Riesuchet, and then maybe the Hawks can stay at sea. Mo, close your eyes, spell it. No.

You can't make me do anything. You can't make me do anything. I'll put him in a school. He can't spell it. You can't spell it. I can spell it. I ain't got to do none, though. It's illiterate.

I know. I'm asking outspell. And Reza, too. He's asking outspell? You just start calling him, Reza? I mean, it's hard. It's a top of the nickname in the NBA. Top 10.

Or abbreviation. It's not here to know there. Toronto Raptors. How fun will they be to watch this season? I don't think they're watching them. I love Scottie Barnes I'm sorry Raptors fans I love Scottie Barnes

I don't think he's particularly fun I'm impressed with what R.J. Barry did last year I sure as fuck don't think he's particularly fun Yakopoda oh my god oh my god you don't like the old G5 out spacer it smells like DJ here to me

all right They put them in D tier. Yeah. The San Antonio Spurs. You left your mom? All right. Spurs. S.

Yeah, they got one B. They got the best freak show in the league. S. Freak show. Yep. Wemby, Chris Paul. We need it. Freak shows crazy.

Honestly, the last three teams are all S-tier. I think the Thunder. and grizzlies are both s tier right the grids have to be s here the thunder probably are too the thunder are going to be the best team in the west and hot take the best team in the NBA and I feel very

confident in that I feel very confident they will have the most wins over the Celtics I'm feeling good about that prediction they're going to win the most games in the regular season okay and the grizzlies listen we have john Morant the human highlight reel with nine feet of arms to throw lobs to Zach Edie and John Morant

are going to be insanely fun just by the virtue of how insane they look when you look at them in pictures when you see that big motherfucker and that small guy jumping higher than he stands it's going to be amazing to see Can we see it? Yeah, I'll go S-tier for those teams

And then you got Marcus Mark like dying for every loose ball possible floppy Leave everything on the court Yeah The only issue is I feel like S-tier's too big S-tier is the biggest tier That feels wrong to me

Look, we love it watching basketball. Of course, like naturally we're going to have a lot of... We love the game. All right. Real talk. We could probably knock the spurs down to A. I agree. Okay.

Okay. Yeah. If we're being real, we do that. That's fair to me. Anybody from A that should go down to B. Should the Hornets be B? Yeah. Yeah, the Horses v. B. Yeah, that's a bit much. Which is wild.

That's a bit much. Pacers are safe in A Sixers Okay A and S are solidified B tier Do the sons really deserve B Or do they deserve C Do the kings really deserve B?

I want to give them respect Because I have so much Like natural inclination To not want to respect them That I feel like the least I can do Is say they're fun All right Because I would not be saying

Particularly good things If we're moving anybody down Phoenix is the team to move down. And then right under Phoenix, I think we should move down the Utah Jazz too. It should be in D. Yeah, I think that's fair. Okay, so the Jazz or D,

the suns go down to C. And now we have a perfect tier of this, folks. Look at that. Perfection. Okay. The Warriors in D tier. It looks wild, but. They suck.

They're trash. You better not say any more words. They're going to F2. yeah that's right and that's the end of our cheerless folks and it is also the end of this stream we appreciate y'all coming in with us making this tier list listen the season is right around the corner

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