The Deep 3 Podcast - Overreacting To Game 1 Of Every NBA Playoff Series | TD3 Live

Episode Date: April 22, 2024

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I'm seeing the lights in the chat per usual that's how you know it's exactly the shut up shut up nobody's late us seeing late means we are exactly on time how you're feeling i just realized my desk is mad high is it nervous i'm just slouching all right we're good man it is playoff time it is my goodness chat how are y'all feeling it's playoff time i went through two straight days of watching 10 straight hours of basketball it was exhausting but that that's that's the first weekend for you oh my god your job is so hard that first day is always so funny because in the first month before that you're so like one of the playoffs going to come you know i'm still watching your night but really don't give a

shit right now and the playoffs come around you're like ooh like you're on top of the world My brain feels over-stimulated because so many things are, like, happening all at once while we're, like, going through the playoffs, whether it'd be, like, Anthony Edwards and him just, like, elevating right in front of our eyes, Yokic still being Yokic, you know, and seeing the Joel and Beauty experience just feel like Zoling Beach. There's so much shit happening all at once, so it's hard. But it's fun. Lots to talk about, which is great, because we have lots of content to film where today, you know, you guys are getting a new episode on Friday like usual, lots of playoff basketball talk. talk about, I see everybody in the chat spamming, all their predictions for these series, talking about their favorite team is going to win it all. Please, keep them coming.

Save that. Save that, because we're going to give you guys plenty of time and talk about every single series. As you guys see my title of the stream, today we will be overreacting on purpose. You know, we're going to give our first reactions to game one of every series that happened over the weekends, right before game two starts today. Before that, though, we're going to do what we always do. We have new stories to go over. What should we start with?

Say again? I didn't hear you. I said, what do you want to start with? What first new story? That is lost. Oh, man. First news story. There's plenty of entertaining ones.

Why not start off with what Kendrick Perkins said about Shaquille O'Neill and also he mentioned something about Charles Barkley as well? He basically called out what a lot of people have been assuming and whatever. I don't know if anybody seriously takes what Jack and, you know, Charles have to say. They're peak entertainment. They're fantastic entertainment. He was like, you guys don't watch any basketball. blah, blah, blah, blah, and Shaq went ahead and clapped back at him and said, so I'm like,

you average five points per game. You can't talk about me. That's always the Jack response. He was like, why is a bench player talking about two Hall of Famers? Yeah. The funniest part about this is it's coming from Kendry Perkins. You know, we know what inside the NBA is. You said peak entertainment, we're here for a reason.

We know what we're getting from them. We're not expecting Zach Low commentary. Kendrick Perkins gives you neither. Kendrick Perkins gives you the exact same level of depth. with far less humor, far less chemistry. So quite the funny messenger for this one. I'm going to push back on that. I think he's funny.

He's funny. Kenji Perkins in the last like nine months has really leveled up his humor to where it's not, it's not just like, yo, what are you talking about? It's actually like, okay, I can see the vision on that way. I have to give him some props. Okay, fair enough. To each of their own. To each their own, I guess.

Some people find Kendrick Perkins funny, more power to him. keep doing it. It's just funny because this came off the heels of all the Drake and Kendrick beef. So it's just like we're getting disses left and right. Every single industry of media has smoke nonstop. Did you see somebody, I forget what outlet, but somebody had wrote something because like Taylor Swift had some, she had some lives with like Kim Kardashian in her album. And somebody was like, yeah, because of Taylor Swift, they proved that 2024 is the year

of the disc track. Yeah. I was like, too, not just do not know what's happening. happening on the other side of the country. Side note, Matthew just tipped $69 and then followed it up $10 donation, $79 for Matthew and $1 for Mika, appreciate you, Mika.

You said, blood from Germany, shout out. Matthew said, with a $69 donation, I'm here to hear Isaac give his opinion on gritty hard worker and man you would let date your daughter, Peyton Pritchard. Oh my God, we gotta bring that series back. That is one sneaky athletic motherfucker. That is one man.

you want to take home to moms so what all the you can do you want take home to mom that's crazy I've never heard you say that phrase before all the

all the what are some more of them he never leaves the gym he's a gym rat he's really good on the white board you know he plays it in the right way

I IQ good God ultimate teammate great motor little locker room presence oh now now we're nasty this a fan favorite you know yeah i also said so was this lakers versus nugget

series going to be the closest sweep of all time i guess like it was the last year you can't can't get much closer than last year's sweep huh that's sick man what was the margin do you know what the margin was for last year sweet there were most of the games were single digits unless there was like garbage on button buckets at the end they most of them came down the single digits because i remember like the celtics net series in 22 that was like a that was like a that Like the margin of victory on all of that was like seven or eight points. Like that was like super, super close. Yeah.

Now, Anthony Davis was not a finalist for a defense player of the year. The top three are Rudy Gobert, Victory Women Yama, and Bamadabio was a third guy, surprisingly. Anthony Davis was asked about this. He said, I'll never get it. The league doesn't like me. On the best defensive player in the league,

I can switch one through five. I can guard the pick and roll the best in the league. From a big man standpoint, I block shots, I rebound. All facts. how do you guys feel about this? Do you feel like he should have been a finalist at the very least? I mean, all the stuff that he's talking about

that he does well, Bamadabio does well too. Like, you know, like, I mean, Bamadabio is also very, very versatile. Van Matabio is also a very good, you know, picking, a role defender.

Like, he does a lot of stuff very well. The reason that he's a finalist as well, I think putting, it's weird having, like, especially with the MVP, like you come out and you see the ballots. and like you used to have like the like the fourth and fifth and now once you have the finalist it's really just top three I want to know how close he was to the third spot in terms of voting

I haven't seen the the voting split or anything like that but if that's something where with all the awards I think we can kind of maybe go back to where you can see one through five and start giving everybody a little bit more love yeah yeah it just comes down to the fact that voters won't with bam over 80 because he has a better team defense I don't don't think anybody thinks that Bam is better at much defensively than Anthony Davis. We all know how talented he is. But, you know, like we talked about in the past, the DPOI award is a very much a team award as much as it is individual. I think Wembe is a huge outlier for being top three despite having a bad team defense because he's Wembe and one of the best

defensive playmakers you've ever seen, especially from rookie. He's an outlier there. Otherwise, you typically have to have like a top five defense to be a serious candidate. And people just let the Lakers are too mid to give him votes. yeah i find anthony davis i feel sick to my stomach facade this rookie go ahead and get more votes than me more recognition than me because anthony davis has reached he's always been a great defender but the levels that he's reached as of late all around defense you know like helps hide of course shot blocking has always been there um all the facets like it's i'd be i'd be sick to myself from ad you know it's like you're right it would never he would never win that

type of award unless his team ends up being like one of the three best defensive teams and also like they have to you know obviously do well in the W&L's column. Yeah. He's what it is. He's going to go down in the same way that Eric Spolshry is as being one of the best coaches of all time that don't have a coach of the year. Is it what it is. Same thing happened in Tim Duncan. Sometimes people just fall through the cracks because there's a lot of talented players. Sick. Shout out to Horse of Yokic for tipping one dollar and shout out to Elena, chat frequenter for donating $3. I appreciate you guys. Lit.

to you. Speaking of somebody else in the DPOI ballot, NBA players had a straw poll this week that a lot of stuff came out gauging their opinions on various things, one of which, they're asked, who is the most overrated player in the NBA, 81 votes for cast,

and Rudy Gobert earned 13% of them the most in the league, beating out Jordan Poole, Trey Young, Dylan, Brooks, James Harden, Bradley Beale, as the next guys. NBA players, do not fuck with Rudy Gobert, how do y'all feel? That is hilarious.

Why are folks saying he's the most overrated player in the NBA as if people are out here proudly saying with their chest, I want to build my team around Rudy Gaubert. Nobody is saying that. Yeah, well Donovan, you know, exactly why. Because he's soft and people don't like him when they think he's annoying

and they think he is unrespectable for whatever reason you want to, whatever word you want to give it, they don't like him as a person. So they think his DPOIs are undeserving. There's that. And it's also like when people talk about Rudy Gaubert and him defensively in like an

time context they talk about him like he's one of you know he has three four d p oi's like he's one of the best defenders of all time but and this was an argument that i heard raymond make when ever rudy went over him he's like there's no situation that you would not want draymond green on the floor whereas there are certain situations where you wouldn't necessarily love to have rudy gobert out there and then also when and then when you have gobert and he's an all-time great defender and you're like, all right, go up against, you know, go, go stop Yokic, go stop and Bede, right? Go stop, enter center here. And you get cooked by all of them.

A lot of people aren't going to like that. It doesn't look good on, on its face value. Yeah, but definitely on face value. But we can also recognize that's fucking stupid, right? Like, we could recognize that's not true. I mean, I mean, there's some, there's some, like, there's some aspect. There's some aspect to it. We're like, I do understand.

Rudy Gober plays a solid defense and he elevates your defense in a certain way and he's not going to be the also there's nobody in the world who can stop Yokic or stop him being and shut them down. I do understand that

but if you are the guy that has like 3-4 DPO-wise I would like it would be nice if that guy could be like okay I'm at least make you work for stuff Yokicch looks at Rudy Go-Ber and it's like oh yeah

Like that video of Shannon Sharp Where he's like yams Cornbread That's cheese That's Yokes Whenever he sees Gobert And it's like

I wish that wasn't the case For the four time DPOI Sure But again Nobody would He would be scoring On Mutumbo that easy too

He'd be scoring everybody That easy Of NBA history Because you can't stop The guy With the way the modern NBA works And the reason we talk About the Timberwolves

As being the best Matchup for him Is because they have A Rudy Gober To be able to use As a weapon To help slow him down Like he is an advantage

There you know And the whole thing About like There's situations You don't want him on the court. It's such a dumb narrative, which we'll talk about this. We'll talk about pretty soon when we talk about the first game we saw against the Suns. Listen, this is the first year we've seen Rudy Gobert with a really good defensive team around him. There was zero point in

the game against the team with the three most talented ball handlers and perimeter where I ever felt like Rudy Gober should him be on the court. There is, that argument is so outdated. I understand you want him to be better because 40 EPOIs puts him in the upper echelon. You want him to be Hakeem or Tin Duncan or whatever. He's not and I understand, but the whole played off the court thing is so outdated and that's i think that for me is where it really like i i really really do see where NBA players are coming from because i i would like at a certain point you take away all all the schemes right all all the game plans all we're going to try to do this we're trying to do this right we'll switch it up here at the very core of it i would like for you i would like to say

hey rudy one-on-one we will take the other four guys and we'll and we'll and we'll you know mix it up however possible but let me get the all-time great defender let me get you in a one-on-one situation let me see you do it and it's just not necessarily possible with it. Yeah but that's just not how the modern NBA works it's not possible with anybody really wait real quick but

I don't want to diverge too quickly weird from this conversation because it was a really good one but who the fuck put John Collins on this list who out here in the NBA has a personal vendetta against John Collins you see star players Devin Booker Hated villains, Dylan Brooks, Jordan Poole. John Collins has no place on this list.

John Collins has been in trade talks for two and a half years, and I bet you people are like, you know, who wants him? Like, why are we talking about him like some nice trade target? He's not that great, you know? So that's probably why he's on it. You have some personal vendetta against John Collins and you're pushing this anti-John Collins propaganda. I am praying for you.

That's your brother. That's me? Nah, I would never. he got me through some times speaking of this player vote then there's one more Tom tibode was voted the number one coach in the NBA that players would least like to play for how do you guys feel about that that's surprising

I agree it's not it's not surprising oh my bad you hate winning you hate 50 wins you hate the top seat okay not I'd be like to win but I would my ACL my knees my MCL so you're not about winning

It's okay. It's okay. Winning is not a priority for you. You don't care about a winning culture. That's fine, right? Everybody has different priorities. Some people get into the NBA because of the lifestyle. Some people want championships and the glory. That's okay. That's fine. Stay over there, right? We're going to do what we do and everything is okay. If you were to play under coach Tibbs for a year, you wouldn't be able to walk by the age of 26 Donovan. You would not be able to do so. You'd be done. You need a cane for the rest of your life. And I'd be okay with that. For the love of the game. All right, what's next? Oh, the NBA players also voted for who should be MVP. Did you guys get a chance to see this? Yeah, I saw that.

Okay, well, I was going to ask what you think about it. If you didn't know, what your guess would be, but since you guys already know, Yokish got 41% of votes, Shea got 36.9% and Luca only 10%. The NBA players in this thing see through the Luca facade, And don't think that him jibbling nonstop makes him the MVP and yada yada.

I don't actually believe that. But that's, you know, that's the narrative. Now, I love it. I love it. I saw a tweet a couple months ago where they were like somewhere around 2016, people stopped using ballhawk and started using heliocentric. Real quick. I love that.

Shout out to Kevin Guiliki for donating $30. He said the Celtics are going to set the record with the most games played. to win the finals. They're going to win four, seven game series. My guy, I don't think it'll be that difficult, but shout out your team, I guess, if it's going to be that hard. I mean, they always make it that difficult. True. They always make it tough.

So back to this, how do you guys feel about Luca being such a small margin of MVP votes among the players? Luca getting just, what, 5% more votes than Jason Tatum is absolutely disgusting. I don't know. I understand the Shay wave and all that shit. okay sees they're the new boys on the block super popular and what he's been able to do

has been remarkable but I don't know if he's he deserves it that much more over Luca like that is insane say he deserves it over him sure but by that much come on now yeah people are you know some one seed winning moves players I guess and you know like you said he's new he's interesting

he's ethical buckets he's not the ball hog for lack of it a word I guess people just value that more and think that's that's more valuable than somebody who, I guess if you're a player and you have to defend and play against Luca Donchette and you just see him doing everything, getting his numbers, constantly having the ball on his hands.

I guess the real people are the wrong way. Yeah, and that's why I think. I think it's a little bit, it's a little bit of hating from the NBA players because I feel like, especially, and I don't know who was pulled, but I feel like a lot of like the good and even great players in the league, they'll look at Luca and it's like,

you let me hold the ball that much. I'd score that much too, right? I'd have that many assists if I held the ball for 20 seconds out of the shot clock. It's probably a little bit of that where you see Shane, he's more of a, you know, traditional number one option where he's just, he's going out, getting buckets, he can play two ways. That's also another thing. People might be hitting on the, or not hating, but pointing out the defense discrepancy between Luca and Shea. So I think that two-way brings a little bit of value. Very fair.

Y'all, we're at 220 likes. Over a thousand of you in here right now, early. the stream can we get to 500 likes is that possible i think it is can we do hang it why that number sounds absolutely that's a disgusting ratio isa i am talking to all you viewers watcher right now there's over a thousand of you in here and we don't even have 300 likes yet what is going on you all ain't got none better to do we don't have none better to do too just being real we all waiting for the playoffs to start and you can even hit us give us a like bro time will move faster the stream will moving guilt trip in them.

Let's get time going. Damn. Speaking of something I like to hear, let's talk about some good, familial looking out for one another. Janice says he signed with Nike over Adidas because Adidas wasn't sure if they would give a contract to the Nasus as well.

He said it's both of us or none of us and went with Nike. How do y'all feel about this? Shout out you, Janus. I love nepotism. This is what I like to see. This is what I like to see. you make sure the whole family eats

and no man everybody knows this is why Thanassas is on the books because Giannis says we know we know the game NBA stars need to do nepotism for their family they need to do it there's bottom of the bench rolls that don't fucking matter

every team has a player you've never heard of it doesn't play give it to their brother give the best playing the team's brother why not what do you have to lose and this is also not the first time that we've seen some shit like this before happened a couple years ago or maybe like 10 years ago we saw derrick rose go ahead and get his brother a contract with adidas bro that came out everybody was

like oh my god what the hell a lot of this shit happens it just doesn't come up in news or anything like that because there's no real motion between these players and they don't have a commercial or shoe or whatever but it's common adidas humongous l yeah and jericho's brother's contract is like 30 years long he still he didn't paid like 2035 or something yon is actually one of the best siblings of all time because not only has he provided his whole family with generational wealth, just from himself, his brother has a ring, right? Now he has a contract with Nike and he has his own podcast. He's giving him the keys to life, right?

You have money, a ring, and a platform. What more do you want? You're truly. Brother of the year. All right, man, we can move on to the topic of today's episode. let's talk about every single playoff game from over this weekend what game you want to start with you pick one I mean let's go ahead and get it out the way

let's talk about the New York Knicks versus the yeah let's talk about let's talk about grit and grind let's talk about Josh Hart man let's talk about making timely plays come on let's talk about deuce McBride how about doze McBride bro

oh my god oh my god much God. Listen, like you said. We were talking at the trade deadline.

No, no, I won't call myself. We were talking at the trade deadline talking about trying to go get Malcolm Brogden

and Deuce McBride was there all along, came in. He said, Jaylen Brunton, I know you're struggling, and I see you force it. I got you,

big bro, and Deuteman McBrough comes in, lights up the garden and everybody. It doesn't matter. Oh, my goodness. I was so high. Cook.

Except for the third quarter because that was absolutely ridiculous. Joel Embed goes out, his knee almost falls off and we give up a double-digit lead should have never happened. But outside of that, Josh Hart is like, hey, you're going to disrespect me? Don't you ever look at me in my face and leave me open like this again?

Kyle Lowry, don't you ever come and sit here in Madison Square Garden trying to disrespect me like that. Nick Nurse, I don't care if you have Jordan Ford's on. I don't care how I see your necklaces are. You are not nothing compared to us. And we're going to go in today. We're going to win game two. We're going to end the series today. I love it.

the team and I fuck with it. Listen, I respect it. It's okay. It's okay. I respect it. You don't know what it. Listen. He said you can't relate. You don't know joy. Nothing good happens to your team. The team you're on is terrible. But listen, I respect it. Let me let me let you cook. This is going to be one of the most exciting series to me because I don't know who's going to win it. I think this is probably the second and third best team at Eastern Conference right now, barring what happens to Janice and Dame and their, you know, connection.

If the Knicks can win this series, they can be in anybody outside of Boston. And I am rooting for them, because this is the most likable team, and I don't know how long. Brunson, obviously, probably the most likable star in the league. Josh Hart, as a Lakers fan,

I've had a soft spot for him forever. He was a rookie on my favorite team. I watch him, part of the Young Corps. It's awesome, singing him and Cook. Dante Devenzo is one of the most unheralded players in the league. I say Hardenstein, Ogi Anobi. All these guys that are just likable. They just worked together.

The power of friendship, like you said, many times Donovan, has transferred over to them. I want to see them at the conference five. I think we need to see it. I 100% think it can happen. First of all, for the play that Embed got hurt on was one, one of the craziest plays that I've ever seen. For somebody to already be hurt and be that big and to throw it off the backboard and go catch it and dunk on somebody, that's crazy.

That's one. Two, he should have never came back in that game. He was not okay. He had to stop guard and pick a rolls. Nick Nurse is like, you are going to stand in one place and move two feet to the left and two feet to the right. And that is it.

I am so, like, intrigued to see just how they manage him for the rest of the series because it's wild that he was even out there. But, like, Mitchell Robinson was able, after that, was able to come in and play fantastic defense. He was getting these offensive rebounds, which is really what everything is built off of for the Knicks, like getting second chance points, getting extra possessions. So that's good.

Maxie was, yo, Maxie and Kyle Lowry were crazy. I thought that Maxie not only had a great game like offensively, defensively, he was fantastic. He was great. I love the Knicks, man. The Knicks, like you said, Isaac, they're easily one of the more likable teams in the league right now, especially knowing where they came from all the Knicks fans like Donovan.

He's humble as fuck now, or at least you should be because all the, you went through the trenches, lie you went through the trenches and you this is your opportunity this is your time to talk shit you deserve it congratulations you know um okay they won one guy let's calm down no they won one game for sure we want boston oh yeah there was some headline where they put it on like they put it on the jumbot on or some shit like that like nix versus boston crazy there's a dunk y'all saw that check it's watch it again let's watch his dunk back look at this play looks like an atomic bomb bro this is so sick this is insane

The way he just bodyed OG And it just falls down Like on the next play Now that right there Encapsulates his entire NBA career dude Like when that motherfucker is on There's none that you can do about it But he's not gonna be on for that long

Because apparently he's fine He felt something Some like discomfort And it like scared him So he went down And he had to like Get confidence back in the knee After feeling that

Went back to the locker room They deemed that he was completely fine That's gonna be something he deals with With this type of injury has There's gonna be some lingering discomfort and he's talking about in the past dealing with these injuries and his knees a lot in legs

it's a big mental thing that he has to get used to feeling this and feel confidence in his legs this is going to happen numerous times probably throughout the playoffs I have a question for you guys it had nothing to do about wait go ahead no no go ahead

talk your sit and then I'm going to ask my question I was going to say and basically had nothing to do with confidence they gave him the best drugs possible they made sure that he had ketamine Toradole whatever he weed I don't care what he needed He was going to get the drug

So that he did not feel that neat I promise you Oh gosh All right With whatever he's on Do you guys see a pathway For the 76ers Coming in and tying up

This to one one Yeah Yeah definitely A pathway for sure This is gonna be a close series Pathway Pathway Yeah

It's highly unlikely In my opinion though Highly unlike I think this goes six or seven This is gonna be a very close series You know The whole adage that The whole stream

is going to be revolving ground is a series doesn't start until the home team loses. That's the truth for almost all these years can be watching today. The Knicks should win at home, so should Philly. Like, it's going to be close for a while. I don't think you can count either team out yet. I think, I think it depends obviously on like how mobile

and beat is. I think that, I think Philly, like their pathway, the defense that they were able to play, like, they're really just going to have to do the same thing that they did in game one and say, Josh Hart, if you want to beat a shooting threes, you can by all means go ahead and do that and that is a solid strategy like the shots that that he put up

was was great i also do think though jalen brunson shot eight of 26 in game one and i thought that it was very clear especially in the first half he was forcing a lot of those shots i don't feel like a lot of his missed shots early in the game were because of philly's defense i think that he was trying to get into a rhythm really i i think that he really could have had whatever he wanted and he just wasn't going down. But we'll see. But I do think that like the shooting overall and especially if

Deuce can come out and play well, right? I don't need Deuce to score 16, 17 in the first half again. But if he could play well, then everything will be fine. Yeah. Yeah, I think if we look at the numbers to this game, a lot of it went kind of as you'd expect given these teams profiles and what led to them when, obviously. The next half 55 rebounds.

55 compared to 33 for the 76ers That's just absurd And we know this is what they do They beat you up down low They actually the turnovers were tied The Knicks shot 45% from 3 And while the 76ers shot 34% Nicks have 26 second chance points

Compared to Philly's 8 27 fast break points compared to Philly's 11 Slumdog ball That's what you call it man This is what they do They win on the margins They do all the hard work stuff necessary To make up for their lack of high-end shot making

and it works consistently, especially against a team that either their star player isn't healthy, isn't the most big hustle guy, isn't the most consistent guy, whatever may be. They have Tobias Harris on their team, which you know what that means. If you're a team like that, you're going to get outworked every single time. Tobias

Harris is the worst player to have of going against the Knicks, bro. In general, over this entire season since he's been against the Knicks, he averages like six, seven points. Last game that he played on Saturday or whenever it was, put up seven points, bro. A choices of this does nothing well for them and i feel so sorry for sixers fans because

you have an imb who's just doing imb things trying to be healthy tyrice maxie played fantastic did great kyle larry same thing but outside of that no one really showed up and followed up and tobias harris who is what the second highest paid player on that team right now for him to give you an absolute zero is damning that's why we personally oh that's awful yeah that's why me personally I would take the crumble cookies over Tobias Harris as well. I would make that trade. And I'm glad he's not. Yeah, I'm glad he's not on my team in this series.

Seven field goals is not going to be enough, especially not if you're only making three of them. When we know Tobias doesn't bring a lot defensively, a lot on the boards, a lot passing. He has to be a scoring punch that's reliable out there to go band for ban with what Jalen's going to bring. This just isn't good enough. This is just a lack of anything.

Where is that? That's one or four from three? Yeah, that's not, yeah. Yeah, that's not going to cut it. And then we look at Joel and Bede, A for 22 from the field. A lot of work going left here per usual around this, just late jump shot range here. Pretty good under the rim,

but we know with his current health situation and the way Philadelphia likes to defend, I mean, the Knicks like to defend, going to be hard for him to get to the rim consistently. We'll see if those jumpers fall because this time they didn't. I genuinely see a pathway for the Knicks or for the Sixers to go ahead and steal a game too because I would say for the first time, This season watching Jalen Brunson, he gave him you to look uncomfortable with the type of defense that I saw Philly throwing at him. They were kind of on his back a lot.

And I saw him, I think he got blocked like three or four times or something like that, which is like not too often because smaller players like Jalen Brunce specifically are usually hyper aware of like where the defender is at. And to see him get blocked from behind that many times is like, huh, interesting. They're applying a lot of pressure, pressure on him in ways where he cannot really, like, detect and feel. And so if the Kyle Lires of the world again, and Tyre's matchy balls it off and you get whatever you can from Joel and Bede and someone else, like any human being who has a sister jerseys on can show up and do something, 10, 15, please, then I can imagine a world where, like, the six are still game too, for sure. Yeah, we can move on to the next series. We've got a lot to get through. I'm going to go ahead.

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Next series we got to talk about, let's see, which one should we go to? Let's talk about the Minnesota Timberwolves versus the Phoenix Suns at Brayford. How did y'all feel about this first game? Cinema. Cinema. For anyone ever pressing Anthony Edwards' propaganda, this right here is like this game right here proved every single thing that everyone has been saying in that

camp. Seeing him go ban for ban with Kevin Durant and be the best player on the court when there's like a Devin Booker's and obviously KD in the world. It's phenomenal. And then also we can bring it up right now too. What Rudy Gobert did on the defensive end?

And also he did head a turnaround fadeaway bank shot too. Pretty impressive. This game was immaculate. This whole shot I'm not going to lie. All year. I've said, don't forget about Devin Booker when we're talking about the best shooting guards in the NBA. You know, the Anthony Edwards propaganda has been here all year.

He's the chosen one. He's the new golden boy. Everyone loves him for good reason. Very cool player, very marketable, obviously making the leap for true superstardom as well. But, you know, Devin Booker's Devin Booker. Better passers is a good of the score. It's like, let's not forget he's still here,

despite him not getting the headlines this year. Watching this first game, I feel like we're watching the series where we have to admit Anthony Edwards is better than Devin Booker. I feel like I'm watching the ascension of a true superstar who it looks like through one game, again, just one game, it looks like he's going to prove to be two years in a row a true playoff riser that rises the occasion.

We saw this Phoenix Sun's team shut him the fuck down in the regular season. They game planned against him so well multiple times. He averaged 14 points per game across a full four game series against his team. First game comes out and decimates them, drops 30 in his sleep, stares Kevin Durant in his eyes and said,

this old motherfucker cannot guard me. This just feels like the Anthony Edwards moment where he's taking the leap to being a top 10 player probably. Yeah, 100%. I'm very curious. I think for me watching this, the only thing that there's two things that came to mind was like, one, wow, Nasrida is amazing.

And then two, Andy Edwards better follow this up in game two. Because I think that all of us, like, we're waiting. We've all known that he can have these types of performances. And he's certainly, like, started off series very strong before. I want him to do this every single game because like Isaac said, if you want to be better than Devin Booker, if you truly want to be the best shooting guard in the league,

it takes consistency. It takes doing it every night in the playoffs. So you can't be out here and, you know, drop 33, shoot 58% from the field and then next game scored 20 on like 42% and have this like up and down. That's one of the reasons why I feel like coming into this, coming into the playoffs, why he already wasn't like the clear number one because even as good as he was this year

there was still some inconsistent moments i need him to cut that out and then we're going to be we'll be good for sure this and if he wins this series i'm just going to let say say it real quick he is a top 10 player in the NBA who will be next season viewed as that he should be yeah he'll be in that running for sure he'll definitely be in that range mo one thing you've talked about a lot with anthony a word this year is his lack of consistency from the mid-range jumper early in the season when he was on fire we saw it falling and we're like Jesus Christ how do you guard this guy

then he went through midseason and it was under a big slump there was a stretch where he was one of the worst drum shooters in the league it got better in the second half of the season but was very inconsistent to Donovan's point in this game looking at this shot chart mid-range mastery just look at this area he can get into a spot on the left side of the court

just nailing it every single time obviously the three points were falling we know what he can do driving to the rim against a team that is a pretty good defensive team they've been around 9th or 10th on defense for the entire season Nurkich isn't the best rim stopper in the NBA, but he's not a pushover.

He's giving them a decent rim defense. It's impressive. He's getting to his spots, rising however he wants, doing whatever he wants, being the most athletic player on the court, the most skilled offensive player on the Timberwolves, doing everything you'd want from him.

And on top of that, Cat. Let's talk about a cat real quick. Oh, my goodness. Because we all, in our predictions episode, we trepidiously thought the suns have a good chance of upsetting here, in big part because we didn't know

what we're getting at a cat. who would only play two games before the playoff started. From what I saw from Cat in this first game, I have no problem thinking that Timboros are going to win this handily if he keeps playing like this, because he looked great offensively and defensively. He switched on the perimeter really well, chasing around the wings on the Suns,

wasn't getting exposed in space whatsoever, did all the offensive stuff you'd want him to do down low, using his size to the advantage. I'm confident in this team of Cat plays like this for the whole series. Like to win the series or to do more beyond? this series both i mean i don't know who they're going to match up with in the second round but if they handle the win this series i i i don't think they can get pushed over in the second round by any means oh man i feel like at this point in time for cat before this once he came but

when he came back from his injury he looked like shit he would he didn't look good at all but at the same time all of his fans and NBA fans you know we're just happy that his presence was felt and no real expectation or pressure is on him no longer not only because of the injury but even like where he stands on the team and stuff like that because everybody understands what cat is and how at times still awkward his fit is on that roster and so to see him just smoothly integrate himself while someone like anthony edwards continues to grow and blossom and it's opening up the game in a myriad ways just helps everyone get in their spots so much easier.

Chats going crazy laughing at me saying trepidious, saying it's the big word of the day. Call me an unc. I love it. Through the book. How do you feel about this? I'm not ready to write out the suns yet, though. You know, we were both confident that they have some match to advantage that can make them win the series. I still feel that way.

Like I said about the last series, series doesn't start until somebody loses at home. Are you still confident in the suns? No. I mean, I picked the Timberwolves to win the series. Did you? Yeah. Okay. How do you feel what the sense?

Probably it's still about the same. I think I was still iffy on Kat, like, just because I am generally about how he's going to perform, you know, in a playoff setting. And so if he's going to come out here and my eyes elevate himself from what he normally is and Anthony Edwards is going to play to the level that he did, I don't think that there's any way that the Suns can win this series. unless you get one of those moments where Devin Booker shoots, you know, 60% Kevin to rant goes crazy. Bradley Beale starts to, you know, go wild as well. But all three of them clicking, it's going to be wild. And I don't see it really happening.

But the perimeter defense that Minnesota has and the now at like elevated shot making from their two stars, I think it's, that's my over reaction where I think this series is over. I think it's a wrap. I can't write the suns off just because they are they're such an inconsistent team in that like game one they look rather lifeless and just get dominated

in basically all physical aspects you can imagine and just get pretty much punged at the building but then the next night they come out and the shot making really shine and you see the true formula

with what was expected with these guys that's gonna happen I think we're gonna see some sun's games like we saw in the late half of the season when Bradley Beal was really cooking where like you said

what we saw last year when they Kevin Durant and Booker were clicking bullshroping 40 we're gonna see a little bit of that I think. I don't think we can assume that it's going to go perfect for the Timberwolves every single game. Yeah, they won't sweep them, but.

They might win one. Yeah, five. I wouldn't even say five. I think initially coming into this series. A pesky six. Like, I would do it. Did you, did you predict the sons winning this, Isaac, or what? No, I think we talked to, no.

I was like, it's going to go late. I was like, I think I said sons and seven. Actually, I think at the end, I think at the end, I don't remember. I, every time we do this, predictions we record it like four days or so before the series starts i changed my mind so motherfucking much with all these series non-stop so i don't know what actually said on the stream but i think i leaned like sons and seven because i didn't know what i was getting another cat i know you had tweeted about it i know you tweeted your uh your yeah when i tweeted it i just said i don't

fucking know for who's going to win the series because i do not have a confident prediction i don't have a confident prediction whatsoever that's fair that's fair i don't i don't even remember any of my predictions well but i do feel like i said the sons i would lean the sun's way because it seemed like they had the um the timber wolves number and i don't want to like run away from that still but i just don't imagine a world and where like devon booker shoots like 31% in the field again like consecutively i have to assume that grace down is going to come not to say he's a huge x factor but he fucking matters i mean he is this really speaking the best shooter in the NBA and he matters he he's injured i think but i think he's probably going to play

two there whenever their next game is. So, yeah, I have to assume that they're going to come back, punch them back in their mouth, and this would be probably like a seven game series for sure. Yeah, again, it's nowhere near done yet. The home team one game one, as expected. But again, 1 by 25, we're looking at the stats

right now, 52 rebounds and 20 second chance points from Minnesota. That has to be cleaned up. We have to see the suns have to figure out a way to play with size and not completely decimated that way while still maintaining the perimeter advantages they have with the shot making. But then again, they shot 32% from three. And every game we look at, we're going to realize that a running theme here

is when you're playing with really close teams and really close matchups. Whoever makes the most threes typically decides a big portion of these games. We saw the magic look like shit offensively. They shot like fucking 20% from three. We saw the Mavs get ran out in the first half. They shot 12% from three in the first half. Three point shot variance is a big part of all these series. So until we get a little bit more and see what happens when the suns actually make their threes for game and maybe vice versa and the Timberwolves go cold hard to really learn anything yet

yeah that's fair all right what's the next series stick out east okay let's real quick gloss over South X versus heat what do you guys think Drew Holiday you're very dangerous man for pushing

Caleb Martin like that next this is going to be sweet I think I think just without Jimmy they just don't have Right, we all said the Celtics are going to barrel through. It's going to be as expected in an easy sweep for the Celtics, I think. I didn't even realize that, like, Duncan Robinson wasn't playing.

And also, I know Terry Zero was out, but I didn't realize how, like, battered they were in, like, injury-wise. It was crazy. So, yeah, they're going to sweat. Yeah. And I wish I had more to say and to give the heat in Celtics fans their time. But what do you want us to say? The Celtics are the best team in the conference by a wide margin playing the weakest team in the playoffs are now on that side. Yeah.

What do you expect that? In the Miami Heat are missing like three out of their best seven, eight players. So it's like tough, tough luck, buddy. Let's talk about the most painful series for me. Lakers versus Nuggets. The Lakers put a very solid game in game one besides D.Lo being absolutely useless in the playoffs per usual. Outside of that, Anthony Davis played 45 minutes and played exceptional. He great offensively, great defensively.

went band for ban with Yokic, played just as good. LeBron was LeBron. John Murray was cold. Nuggets played regular-ass basketball. And for the first half, the Lakers looked like they were going to steal game one. And then the Nuggets just did Nuggets things and came out and out-executed the shit of them in the third quarter, blew the game open, and ended up winning the game by 11 points. Just everything we knew coming into the series that the Lakers are a good team playing well

on both sides of the ball for the most part very much could make a deep run if the matchup broke the right way. It broke the worst way possible. They have nothing for this team. The Nuggets are perfectly suited personnel-wise to out-execute them in every single way, to take advantage of all the Lakers' weaknesses, and use all their strengths to the greatest degree because the Lakers can't stop them in any way. They stand no chance. Congratulations. Anthony Davis played just as good at Jokic, but he didn't play better. To no avail. To no fucking avail. If they can't win this game, they're probably not going to win many of them.

No, then not. Then not. watching the nuggets um watching them i kind of i get the same feeling watching them as i did watching like prime warriors where anything can happen in the first half minus them being down like 25 points and even then you still are kind of like okay but if the game is like you know 10 12 points either way you get to the third quarter it's like okay it's time for them to turn up and then they're going to hit their run they're going to they're going to blow the game open they're going to lock in and you're going to look up and all of a sudden a 12 lead is now you're down by one or you know a tie game you look up now you're down 16 and you're like

what just happened and I don't know if there's especially if de angelo russell keeps shooting the way that he does there's no way that the lakers are going to win this this game or i mean the series and the only reason why you kind of felt that they had a chance was because delo was playing so well coming into the playoffs and you just didn't think that he would be as bad and then he's like wait for it i can do it like i can play as bad as i did last year every time we think he's done shitting his pants he finds a new way to defecate it's no matter what delos going to do playoff delo things he finds ways to be shit that's hilarious right he finds a waste of shit and fart no matter what you can't call yourself like an offensive driven team

and then have a starter go ahead and put up seven points have another starter go ahead and shoot sixth for 20 from the field and then everyone else be like you know yeah okay cool ad showed up and austin reads did his thing of course lebron did lebron things but all these other pieces all eyes are on you we got you mirror has to like you know snap out of it and snap into it and fucking be what he was last year i just feel so sad for you guys man it's just like when i when i think of this series i think of i just think it's like cruelty it's like a fat you i don't know where i saw this where this idea came from i think it was on some old movie or whatever but i just see like a fat kid running on a treadmill with someone chasing a donut in front of them it's like you're almost there almost there oh it's just like it's cruel man that's a crazy visual but yeah it's just nothing matters i'll pull up the stats here we'll look at the distribution of everything And no stats. And no sats.

They're just not as good. And unless LeBron is going to be Superman all four quarters, it's also not going to happen. And at this stage in his career, to ask him every game in the first round, hey, we're going to need you to play massive minutes and to go, like, you know, try hard mode for, you know, for 30, 40 minutes. that's too much to ask of him. He can't do it at this point. This is the third, listen, I pulled up three team comparisons here for three games. Every single time the winning team shoots better from three, has more second chance points, more rebounds, more fast-rig points.

That's three in a row. That's what these all come down to. They're beating them in all the important categories. And this is not going to change between these two teams. These are things that Devere Nuggets excel at, and the Lakers are inconsistent as hell at. I don't think of much to say they're outclass in every way. what an ugly color selection

yeah it's blue like I'm watching yeah this isn't even the nuggets color this was their colors in the 2000s why is this light blue that's what I'm saying why is it there like

the Lakers should clearly be like a yellow and then you get the Nuggets on like a darker blue or something it's red like why is it this light blue this isn't even one of their colors

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we move on We don't know talking to. Shout out to M.C. Cray for tipping $5. Said, hey, fellas, first time, long time. Question here, Donovan. How do we stop James Hardin? It's not good for our anti-Clippers narrative. Brother, we don't have to do anything.

We just have to sit back and let James Hardin and stop himself. I promise you, it's going to happen. It's going to happen. Game one, James Hardin's different, bro. We'll talk about that series next. We'll get over to that. He set out to Dell Sol for tipping $3, said with his performance,

do you guys see Nasreed permanently taking the starting spot from Kat and Kat getting traded? Not because of Nasr's performance, but if the team doesn't win big in this playoffs, they might have to do it for financial reasons, and it would make sense to see Nasreed slide to that spot. But it wouldn't be taking the spot from Kat unless they have to move off him for money.

Yeah. Yeah. Nasree is not going to be the sole reason. Yeah. Shut out to Nuggets and 4 for tipping $3. He said waiting for the Nuggets versus Celtics final. me too shout to DQ Senpai for tipping $5

you said do y'all think this hardens one good game at the playoffs I don't know about one but it's one of very few probably you might have two in terms of

we'll say I'll save for for Clippers talk Clippers talk is now go ahead let it let it fly wait right real quick

one quick question before we move on to Clippers talk I saw it was interesting tweet and I was like hmm I don't know what the guys are thinking about on the podcast

if Nicola Yokicch wins another NBA championship Does that put him ahead of Steph Curry in the all-time rankings? No. Put some neck and neck. Steph Curry's probably like 10 or 11. Yokic will be in that low teens range pretty fast,

so I wouldn't say ahead, but he'll be close. We got to. We got to. That's no one thing. Like, let's pump the brakes. Like, come on, guys. It can put him in the same stratosphere for sure, because assuming he continues to do his thing for the rest of the problem

and doesn't have like a short longevity, but Steph also has. you know, MVP's and four rings. So if anything, it'll just put them in the same conversations, I think. Gotcha. But Steph will still be ahead. You know, four championships is a lot. Steph does have more longevity.

But also three MVPs is more than two. Yoko isn't anywhere near done. So we'll see. It's one conversation. I just thought it was interesting. Yeah. Let's talk about the Maverick versus Clippers game. I was there in person watching from in the arena.

I thought I was going to get a Luca Doncha's master class. I thought I was going to get the hottest team in the NBA. This is the second time you've been scammed yet, like, since you've been to the Clippers? Yes, the first time I saw them early in the season for Wemby's fourth game of his career, and he also defecated his pants. It was a terrible, Wendy's worst game of the season. Every time I see the Clippers, they just, they're on one, they're on fire, they can't lose, so I guess on their good luck, Charmed.

Don't go to Clippers games no more. That's what needs to happen. Next time you tell me you're going to a Clippers game, sniping out your tires. But this is an interesting game. We all picked the Mavericks to win. You guys were extremely confident in the Mavis to win. I said Mavs in seven that I don't really feel that strongly about it because we're sleeping on the clippers

because they had a slow second half of the season. And the whole reason I said that why we should be careful about expecting the Mabs or just continue their dominance is because of Tai Loo. And this is a team that even without Kauai Lennard is incredibly disciplined and incredibly smart because Tailu knows how to game plan,

knows how to install an offense that isn't super reliant on Kaui Leonard, Paul George, or James Hardin. And Jason Kidd is not particularly smart at being a coach. It's not a high level X's a nose guy by any means You know, it's not a comparison We're talking about him versus Tailu And that's exactly what we saw play out in this game

The level of preparation that Tailu brought Versus what Jason Kidd did Was night and fucking day It looked like Jason Kidd was doing the same stuff They were doing the regular season They were doing the same aggressive-ass defense Throwing help at the nail every single time Lupid Donches in an action

To not let him get exposed Leaving corner shooters open And rotating behind it Against a team in the Clippers Whose entire offensive philosophy Is swinging the ball around the perimeter and finding open shooters. He gave them exactly what they wanted

and James Hardin threw dimes to the corner. They rang threes on top of them. The Mavs offense was anemic. It was awful. How do you all feel about this series? I'll say this. I didn't learn a damn thing from game one. I don't care about it.

It's the Mavs and six. I would tell you that right now. Yeah. It's like obviously everything, like the Tailu coaching point is 100% valid and everything that you said is true i also will throw everything out the window because they shot 11% from three in the first half they were two of 18 from from three in the first half i don't i i i can't reasonably look at the game and look at everything that that happened

especially from halftime on and be like okay this is what like the mabs we're doing this is this is this is what's happening but there's a couple things that i took away from it which was one i'm glad that james hardin had a a good game now um because that means that when we get to games five six and seven he's going to be due for the bad games right he's going to let the clippers down love that two didn't love the body language from luka um felt like he there was like the play where he was like he had the little slip pass to maxi to maxi cleaver he missed it all of a sudden he's jumping up and down yelling at him berating him on the court didn't love that but like when you're down 30 i get it um but it's they're going to be okay it's they're they're going to be fine

i feel like even early on in the game i thought that lucca was still able to get to um to his spots and some of the shots just weren't going in and a lot of times in these in like these blowout games you'll see star players on the losing team still be able to get to their spot get their get their shots up and the shots just don't fall and it can snowball very quickly yep and the game gets out of hand and i felt kind of the same way in the indiana Milwaukee game where a couple missed shots right three don't don't go down threes don't go down and on the other side somebody makes one three and all of a sudden instead of you cut in the lead to two now it's a now it's like an eight point game or something like that it's

the swings are crazy in the playoffs so it's it's gonna be okay yeah yeah i i agree it's still madison seven but i think they have some stuff they have to address in game two or also start getting worried where you samo i agree basketball is just a game of runs and whoever gets no more runs off ends up winning and you know the clippers have a lot of things going right their way like you said they have timely wears their head coach, Jason Kim. I said Jason Tatum. Jason Kid just happens to be standing on the opposite side. Congratulations for them.

And I don't know. It just feels like this win for the Clippers is one of the few that they'll be able to get because of just unforeseen circumstances, which is like, you know, just have one of the best offenses in the entire NBA having one of the worst nights of their entire season. and then on top of that too like Luca starts off super slow in the first step he was one of the main drivers for that

and we were able to see like Kyrie have an insane absolutely ridiculous third quarter I don't think he missed a shot I think he scored like 20 points or something absurd like that so I see this game I wouldn't necessarily worry at all and I think hopefully you know Jason Koeb will make those adjustments when it comes to figuring out how to make Daniel Gaffert less, you know, brutal going up against Zubosh and shit.

Yeah, I, part of it was they were just missing threes, but there was more to it. They, so one, Zubash immediately asserted dominance. Like you said, Gaffer couldn't hang with him at all. Like we did a better job, but it was very much.

One team had the interior advantage. And I don't know if they can stop Tailu from really attacking Luka defensively and really doing mismatch hunting. That's something, that they really had a struggle with. They gave Luke too much help, which you can't do when your James Hardin is running the team instead of Kauai,

because James Hardin is going to swing into the shooters every single time. So they have to think it's a different type of defense to run because you're not going to have that much luck, giving that much help interior. Because they sold out to stop the driving lanes when the ball handlers on this team are James Harden, Paul George, Norm Powell, Terrence Mann, not particularly affected drivers to the rim. These guys aren't the most athletic, beat you one-on-one guys. I just don't understand what Jason.

kids entire game plan was it has to change he was just trying to be be aggressive that's as it like he was trying i feel like they they had an opportunity where kawai wasn't out and you are going to stick with everything that's gotten you to this point and really try to you know mask all of lucca's deficiency so that he can go back on the other end and give you an efficient you know 37 12 and 10 and you kind of if luka is your star and you know that like you're going to get into series like this you're just going to have to live with stuff like that and it's kind of like with um you know what we used to see with stuff like you'd go at step and you try to make him work try to tire him out but you're okay because you know that on the opposite end he's going to give you 30 points in

the most efficient way and um i just don't i i ultimately think that the mabs are going to be okay I think that Luca has shown time and time again his ability to torch the clippers regardless of who's guarding him. And I think that offensively, especially if they start, if they start faster, they're going to be okay. But I am with you that I'm very curious to see how Zubatch comes out in the second, you know, in the following games. Because if he's who've been like that, then it's like, all right, we can't really do anything.

Clippers have a chance, bro. I'm still, I'm sticking with Madison 7, but the clippers have a real chance. are good. Like, Kauai isn't there. We don't know if he's going to come back. Regardless, this team is good and we can't write them off too much. But the one thing I will say,

we can't, I saw somebody tweeted who, you can't overreact to an old legend player having a week off of rest and then looking really good in the game one. Kyle Lowry, James Hardin. It happens.

That's why James Harder is always good in game one because he has a week off and his fresh legs. If Kauai doesn't come back and James Harder is relied upon for a full seven game series, that's where he gets that that's where the maps can benefit in the long run.

But we can't ride the Clippers. It's not going to be easy by any means with or without Kauai. The Clippers are good and a really smart team and aren't a pushover at all. When Daniel Gaffer came on during the post-game conference and opened his mouth, he was like I just felt like I was unprepared. All that 100 to 10% leans back on the coaching staff because none your players should ever feel like they're unprepared. That's why you're there. You're there to boost them up and help them keep their head on the swivel when it comes to

scouting imports and all this type of shit so hopefully all those things will be addressed and I think we will be back right on track Donovan 100%.

They're not winning this series I still have very high faith in the match Yeah, you're super common What did you say? Mavs and 5 is that your,

without your prediction was? No, I think I may have said Mabs in 5 I'm just talking Mabs and 6 yeah No yeah I just one of here's our predictions

so many times people take things literally where Mavs in 5 like he's just saying to be an asshole when he's it's in jest you know people take us so literally I'm like what do you guys understand that we are never that

serious? Especially when it comes to the clippers like the maps could only have Luca they can not have Kyrie and I still be like now they're winning in and four like but no I do think I do think legitimately is going seven which I'm picking Mavs in seven which means I think the Mavs

are better but if you're going seven it can go either way so I would not be shocked at all of the Clippers to surprise the world okay that's fair let's talk about a another series. OkC versus the New Orleans Pelicans. This might be the best series

of the first round. Okay. This is this year, I just said when we're talking about predictions, take it in Jess, a lot of things we're joking. I'm never joking. I'm talking about the Thunder.

All year I've told you guys how confident I am in them and how we need to stop pretending that they're just scrubs because they're young and that J-Dubs is a star. She had home grin is incredibly good better than a lot of your favorite centers. I feel so much pressure

for this team to not lose in the first round or I'm going to listen to this look. I was clenched. I was glad. Congratulations. Your legacy is on the line. Fuck the. I was a close Mark Dagnon.

No one cares about saying it's about you and what you're getting into my ears. I've given so much thunder propaganda. They cannot lose in the first rounds. I don't think they will. I think we saw it. The Pelicans aren't going to win this game when they hold the thunder offense to being this terrible. It's going to be hard for them to find a way to win. Because this was a really bad showing from the.

under offense. Yeah. And they had the the pelicans had so many opportunities at the end of the game to to go out and win the game, right? Like you had that final possession where they get three offensive rebounds and they don't get a good look on any one of them. And even on the last play of the game, C.J. McCollum, he gets throwing it out of rhythm because Casey Wallace comes in, clamps, you know what I'm saying, locks him up, post the ball away. And now you get a double clutch leaning three for the for the win. I think that like, Like for for Shea and for Jaydub, they're going to be probably like their ability to make shots in the clutch is so, I think that's going to be the difference. And you really, really saw it in this game because Brandon Ingram and CJ, they couldn't get to their spots late in the game.

They couldn't, they couldn't knock stuff down. Whereas even when they were missing, I still felt like Shea and J. Dub got to their spots and were getting certain shots. if they normally take it was just a matter of the stuff not falling but the thunder are going to be okay um but i do think that this kind of wraps up fairly quickly um really to be to be on to be honest i think it's going to be a fun series and it might ultimately be the most fun series in the first round but the thunder the thunder execute at a very very high level especially down the stretch in these games and if Zion I hope well I mean he has a hamstring injury

but I have no idea what his status is back by next week it's a it's a ham it's a hamstring for a defensive lineman like I think we're going to assume Zion won't be here for this series exactly I I like okay C I think that they win this this is a real prediction at this point I think that they win the series in five I hope so I agree to that okay she needs these the rest for the next series the next series is going to be tough they're going to face a team that has some size next and mo how did you feel about okayc size because obviously you know the rebounding's been

a big issue or is there is there one weakness really yonis is a big motherfucker how did you feel watching that you were you worried about that long term oh yeah that's one thing that i've been saying to you guys for the entirety of the uh regular season when it comes to what they do in the playoffs we've seen yonis Valentunus. We saw him collect 20 rebounds, and I think the, they had like a, the Pelicans had like a 12 rebound lead or whatever over OPC. And obviously, like, that was like the biggest thing that helped keep the New Orleans Pelicans in this game. Now, also with that being said, that didn't end up mattering because of what guys like Chet Hunger was able to provide with this fucking shot blocking. He knocked, he swatted so many clutching. key buckets there's one there's one book i believe it was towards the end of the fourth quarter

where larry nancy junior was trying to do an up and under move and chet just came out of nowhere and stretched his feet i mean his hands like fucking 12 feet in the sky and just swatted it into oblivion you know like with o kc being damn near perfect on all other ends on the court as much as perfect as they can be it almost doesn't matter just yet for them when it comes to the rebounding in the mid-ritty-ritty stuff. Yeah. We saw the game come down to, what both of you guys are saying,

the last possession, Chet had a clutch block followed up by a clutch Shea shot. Also, some big office rebounds by the Pelicans, which can spell the potential doom with them in a later series. We just saw everything you would expect besides the fact that OKC

shot 30% from three. The best three-point shooting team in the NBA, them in the Celtics. So that's due for some positive regression. They're not going to shoot that bad every game. Part of it was probably a young team in their first playoff game. ever some jitters there that led to some cold shooting part of it is the fact that

trey murphy and herb jones are fucking gods on the perimeter they're ridiculous shooting against them would give me nightmares but you can assume they're going to shoot a little better yeah don't what are you laughing at i think i i think i gotta say it you got to say it you got you got if you're reading this you guys need to have more shame okay what you see when you Lane like water. It says YouTube me. Says, Mo eat fried chicken like

you're in danger. Oh, if you're in danger. They've been saying that in chat all day. I'm cracking it. Like Mo bleak twice if you're in danger. I'm cracking. Shout out to MC Cray for going another $5.

Shout out to V.M. for tipping $3. Mr. Thomas Snatch for tipping $3. and Del Sol for tipping $40. I missed that one. Sorry, Del Sol. He said, give Don the Isocam. I need to hear generational Clippers rant for the stream. We appreciate you, man.

I shout to Nick for tipping $5. Wait until they lose. I promise you I got you. Something I will say, to touch real quick back on the Pelicans, Zion Williamson, he's supposed to be cleared by May 1st, which leans around like game 5, game 6 of that series. And so if there is a world in where the Pelicans just fucking take one, then I don't want to say the series

becomes unpredictable but that's how I can see like being extra drawn now obviously yeah but that's when he's clear for contact for the first time if it goes as well as possible still that's not necessarily when people can come back and play immediately

so it would be kind of crazy if they threw him back out there for a game seven with that's where we're turn around I thought that unless he looks great awesome we're obviously not in the medical team there that seems like that could get a little irresponsible if things don't break right all right

but we'll see fuck that just hop on that goddamn cord zion see him drop 40 in LeBron come do it bro also jdub is very much ready for the playoffs did you guys see him barking that yonis found tunis yeah that was great

he's with it he is him i love j dove barkin as a competition is great what do you do if another grown man just starts barking at you while you're playing basketball what is your immediate reaction isa you gonna bark back I'm not I'm not listen towards the end of that game when the Thunder started making plays I did start barking in my living room I was I was watching them how are you barking what does that sound like oh wow or bark god damn

help. Also, real quick, shout out Trey Murphy, man. Trey Murphy was hooping. He needs to start last year. He was hooping. Send Brandon Ingram to Atlanta. Trey Murphy needs to be the starting forward

next to Zion Williamson. Him and Herb Jones have to be the nucleus there with Zion. Too much energy towards Brandon Ingram right now needs to be towards fucking Cidem McCollum. Send him anywhere. Make him an accountant.

I feel like he's just... Dreef Cooper is playing, bro. Doesn't fucking matter. just asked of him though like it's so hard for he has to do everything as a lead point guard he's overtaxed he has to do everything but yet he doesn't do as much well like what the fuck exceed at something please shoot rebound pass something i need it damn shout out to holden i'm not going to say his full name because he's trying to get me for tiffin three dollars he says can you shout out my wife thanks shout out to your wife holding

He thought he would get me. You almost got caught. No, never. So off a mile away. Yeah, TV's in year 12? It's kind of crazy. Man's been around the block. Wow.

A team who hasn't been around the block is the Orlando Magic, who lost game one to the Cleveland Cavaliers. How do you guys feel about this? Because Cleveland Cavaliers are a team that I was high on early in the season. I've loved them since last year, but they look very terrible in the second half with Donovan Mitchell, not being healthy, Evermobly, not having the strongest second half of the season.

Darius Garland, not having the strongest second half of the season. and the Orlando Magic had tons of momentum. Last week, when we did the predictions, Mo, I don't remember what you thought. Donovan, you were very confident in the magic. I was on the fence, but I was able to be convinced in the magic just because I was so uncertain about what the Cavs had shown us as of late. But I said, I can see the magic winning.

It comes down to do we get vintage playoff Donovan Mitchell, giving a strong run. If they do, and you see 30 point per game dematch, the Cavs got it. If not, I think they're in danger of the Mavs out physicaling them. we got 30 point for game Donovan Mitchell we got Evan Mobley hitting threes

locking down everything and the Orlando Magic shooting 21% from three looking like a middle school offense if it looks like this for any more games in the series the Magic Mike gets swept I saw Evan Mobley

hitting a couple of threes against the Washington Wizards in spring and y'all laughed at me he is so fucking back he is going to beat those Derek Faber's allegations something else that I will also say is that.

Donovan Mitchell is so much better than the next best player on both series on either team. And I think that reason alone will be the reason why they should win this series and no more than six. Yeah, listen.

They shot 26% from three while the match shot 21% from three. This was a fucking rock fight. It was embarrassing. And the difference was Donald Mitchell can get his bucket for himself at any time, give you a 30, while Palo Bancaro had no spacing around him

Jaylon Suggs wide open Franz wide open Jonathan Isaac wide open all missing threes Bencaro performed really well as a score but had four assist to seven turnovers he could do nothing on the pick and roll he couldn't start offense for other people

whatsoever if this is going to be that type of problem and the offense is going to be that terrible they have zero chance to win any games but granted it's just one game they should shoot better than 21% from three but they have to be dramatically better in game two yeah and I don't know

And I'm looking, I'm looking right at Franz Wagner. I'm looking right at you. Yeah. Crash. Oh, my goodness. He was not good. He was not good in game one. I still feel confident about the magic to win this series.

And actually, no. Confident, no. But I'm still, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not confident. But I do still think that they will win this series just because think about, like, as bad as the magic played. and as good as Cleveland played. The Cavs didn't score 100 points, right? They came out of the gate and they hit their first five threes. They were firing on all cylinders.

Donovan Mitchell was taking these crazy, you know, step back heaves. Three threes were going in and they scored 33 points in the first quarter. Next three quarters, they scored 20, 20 and 24. There were several times in that game where the defense for Orlando showed up. Jalen Suggs was a. problem for Darius Garland for Donald Mitchell. He was getting into their space. He was causing a lot of,

a lot of deflections. And I think defensively, Orlando is going to be fine. I think it's kind of the same thing as with some of these other teams where you come out, the nerves kind of got you. Jalen Suggs talked about how he was really, really nervous. You just can't fall behind by 15 in a series like this. And it might be hard because of the shooting.

And I know that it's bad, but I still think that their defense is going to be able to prevail because in a lot of the moments that were like physical moments, playoff moments type of stuff, yo, the magic word, they were body in Cleveland. Like, they were punking them in those types of moments. I think that that really can show up for the rest of the series. So I'm still picking them to win. It's, again, I've said it in front of all these years. I respect it.

Amongst all these series, this is the one that will most specifically come down to who makes the most threes every game. Because you got guys like Mowbly out there, Franz, Suggs, Jared Allen, even, Isaac O'Coro. It's going to be these elite smart defensive coaches begging role players to beat each other. And that's going to be the swing factors, which role players can make the most shots. And I don't know if I can pick the magic to win that type of game. Because what other way do you see them having a huge advantage when all the strengths they have defensively, the cats also excel in those areas? They also have the defensive talents of Evan Mowgli to go band for band with the John Isaac.

They have Donald Mitchell to go band for band with the pilot bandcaro. You know, like all the reasons that we could feel confident about the magic, I felt we can also feel confident for the Cavs. And if it becomes a shootout, I think there's a clear advantage there. Yes.

Okay. On Evan Mowgli, he did play well. It's not act like he was freaking Tim Duncan. He scored 16. Like, he was good. right he was he was fine um and a lot of the time and i we'll see what orlando does because there was like three or four plays where they just like he was scoring on cole anthony right so he's not he's not going out and creating in the same way that that that uh that palo is or you know

that that that that's the thing that the dmitches i i get i get it but like he has to be to attack those guards and beat those mismatches which he did normally he can't normally he sucked I get it. I get it. It's one game from Everymobley and I want to see, I want to see more. I just, I just, I just think that I will, I think there's going to be just a little bit of regression from, from Evermobly, and I refuse to believe, and this is probably just my bias, I refuse to believe that Franz Wagner, shooting aside, like three-point shooting

aside, it's going to be as bad as he was in game one. Hold on. They're calling me old in the chat and giving hilarious jokes. You want to hear some of these? Please. They said my parents are Adam and Eve. Oh, no, that's crazy. I founded First National Bank.

They said, I wrote the Declaration of Independence, so Hamilton took credit. I've been having a hot take since the ABA. I was George Washington's Gardner. That one is racist. What? I'm one of the founding fathers. That's a layered joke. That's a layered joke.

he said my social security number is one that was good they said they saw me in Red Dead Redemption too I threw tea in Boston oh my God you have any parting thoughts about this series no man rock fight continues

I'm going to lean towards Donovan Mitchell's away because he's by far in a way, the best player in this series. So, yeah, I'm going I'm going Cav still. All right, cool. What's the last series? No, we got to talk about

the Milwaukee Bucks and the Indiana Pacers. Good God, what a game, bro. We saw Damien Lillard go on a fucking heater during the first half of this game. No, no, no, no. Not for the first half. For the first quarter, and he didn't score again. It was the first half.

I believe I picked the bucks to win the series. Which one do you pick the Pacers? Was it you, Donovan? Of course. Of course. The Pacers are so insurious. The Pacers are so fucking unsirious. I'm so glad I didn't get fooled to pick them.

Dude, Tyree. Rick Carlyle. You're letting me down. Rick Carlyle played 11 people in this game. In the first quarter, he played 10 people. That is nuts. He does not have, he does not have 2015 Warriors' death. What the fuck is he doing playing Jalen Smith in a playoff game?

What is sticks doing? You're down 16. You're down 16. And two minutes have passed. You're down 16. Somebody else get in here. I have to try something else. Like, I get it.

Try James Smith? Who else? Who else? Who else? You're down 16 in two minutes. Yeah, but you're down 16 in a historic way, though. It's not like you're just down 16 off all like fucking players is straight up not trying. Somebody go do something.

Clearly, Tyrese doesn't want to be out here. He took like five shots in the first three quarters. Like, you know, I don't care. I really don't, Tyrese, I don't care if they are falling. If we are down 20 and you are the best player on the team, you better chuck up these shots. Like, I can't leave these games with Pascal coming to hoop

and you not having 10 shot attempts. I can't, I can't leave these games with Nemhart and T.J. McConnell, like, taking these shots. You have to be the driving force in a lot of this. And when you were at your best and when and when this team was at their best, Tyrese Halliburton was an insane high volume, high efficient score. Yep, yep. And he was, he did not even attempt to be that kind of player in game one.

Meanwhile, Damien Lillard on the other side is like, oh yeah, 35 feet, light work, right? I'm taking stepbacks from 40 feet and they're going in at the end of the quarter. And there's nothing you can do. and that was just of such a stark difference at the start of this game where you saw, oh, it's, it's over. Like, Dame's here to play. Tyrese doesn't look like he wants to be out here

and so I will see you guys in game too. But he needs to be more aggressive. They got punched in their fucking mouth. They weren't ready for the bucks to be this locked into defensively. They thought the bucks were going to be this defensive pushover. They've been for the regular season.

And granted, it's just the Pacers, so I won't be taking any victory laps because, like I said, the Pacers are unsirious as fuck. But I am confident. often in the bucks can continue to wrap up defensively we needed, like we see today. Playoff atmosphere is very different. We know the defensive issues.

We know how bad it can get. It's going to be better when you have the talent they have. And this is, Yonis wasn't even playing. But when you have Rick Lopez, you have some versatility in the perimeter, not like it used to be with Drew Holiday. They're not going to look that easy of a fucking bucket every single time I did in the regular season. And the Patriots must have thought they would be because they thought they were going to run up and down, do their track field stuff. Or they come up and play no defense, but shoot hell of threes. That's not how playoff basketball is played.

and they have to make serious adjustments in a way that I don't think they can because I think Tyrese's style of play is run up and down, playing no defense, get shots up, and that doesn't work when they're punching you in the mouth every time you come down in the half court. God damn. And on the other side of things, this is why the Milwaukee Bucks gave up everything

for someone like Damien Lurge. I don't know. Actually, I'm not going to say, I don't know. Drew Holiday does not have the capabilities that giving this type of scene to where If your best players out for the series, Janice, this guy can potentially lead me to a first round victory with everyone else off the year. That's what Damien Liller does.

We've seen him as a superstar in his own right last year. You have that and after that and after that. He's known for this type of stuff. And for him to go ahead, prevail, put up 35 in the first half and not do a damn thing in the second half with the ball, especially. It's interesting to see. But regardless of the fact, they got the win. and if he can go ahead and assert himself

throughout the rest of this series, I'm not going to lie. He might see himself as a top 15 player in the NBA again. Listen, if he goes online on Twitter and he sees Gloverillian in that jersey, he'll be top 10 again. I will say that. I tweeted about this.

It's so fucking funny how consistent it is that Dane looks just like Portland Dane when Yannis isn't there, but when Yonis plays and he has to watch him, and do his thing and try to get his without his normal rhythm where is he where just where does his Portland dame go why can he not coexist why is his game not scalable to play next to other ball dominant stars if it's not going to be that then they have a big problem god man okay do you think do you think it's more because dame like needs to be

kind of the the driving force or is it or do you think it's more because yannis hasn't been able to adjust his game to be more to what dame needs both the end of the day yonis is the best player in the fucking world arguably he's second to we all think he's second to yokech dame needs to be able to be scalable next to other stars more than the other way around yonis should do a better job should be a better role man should be able to facilitate dame a little more but in the day you're going to have to move around yonis's game we're not going to play damey liller basketball sure it's important to bring some elements of that especially for clutch time when you know you want his the ball in his hands more than yonis and a last bucket that's the game you're not going to

type of situation but dame is a bit of play off ball and not completely loses rhythm and be a pumpkin when he gets it back yeah that's true but at the same time when i to do think about these two like whose game is more scalable scalable it's obviously dame lured be in every scenario you know it is it should be you're right and if it's not that do you try to prioritize dame in certain lights and have you on it's like you know he's a dominant force that can score in any situation around the rim possible do you adjust his role in order to get this type of game on a consistent basis if that's a scenario you have to do so do you all remember hard to do that it is it is hard but do y'all remember um when yannis like looked the media in their face and was like listen man

i'm a role player like i'm just trying to i'm just trying to play my role it's like if you were you'd be about it like i like those those kinds of like funny lies and stuff like that is it's those situations where i i do think that he should be he should be the one adjusting his game to to dame when it when you've seen the pattern over the course of the year and it's like okay if dame gets going i know that i can get 30 in my sleep there's nobody in the league who can Garmin one-on-one. And if Dame is out here doing what he does, then the court extends. Everybody has more space.

We can play off of that. I do feel like it should be on Yannis to adjust his game more than the other way around. I'm not saying it's right, but I'm just the way that the fit works right now. It doesn't feel right. It's what it is. Yeah, that's fair. You can definitely argue what has a higher potential Yannis playing in Dame system or

Dame and Yonah's system. There's definitely ways to go about that. But at the day, they're trying to do a mix of both. at the point you're in the playoffs now it's hard to completely change Yon's style play on a fly now, maybe going to the next season we have to really reconsider it if they're going to stay together but for right now

you really don't have any other option other than Dame to get a rhythm with Yonnes in the court, you know, playing how they play now. Yeah. Dude, the chat is being ridiculous right now. What do they say? They're still making the old jokes and somebody made some joke about some old time, I don't know what they said,

maybe they say Great Depression or something. And someone in the chat was like, you know, you're making a joke, but that's really not funny. That's a really serious time in history that was really bad for a lot of people. And now they're like over here arguing about like dude, this time was worse than this time. Every time period was worse before modern day. Y'all shut the fuck up and talk about basketball.

Why are we talking about the bubonic plague? Stop it. No, it sounds like they just affected a or they just literally made a baby boomer in the chat. Hell of mad right now. They just cold on themselves right now, bro. You're showing your rage. Relax. Pipe down. The stock market crash in 22

was actually very bad. Lots of homes were lost. Shut up. What's your home in 1950? God. I'll grab a live through the Great Depression, actually. You get it. Isaac, right, wait, don't, don't look at the chat. Somebody told me to say this.

Isaac, spell bubonic right now. B-U-B-O-N-I-C? Is that how you spell it? I have no idea. Let me see. I think I say spelled bubonic plague. You got it. You got it.

Good job. Look at me knowing things. Bubonic plague, also called the Black Death. Two for two on words today. Good job. I do the spelling shit. I'm actually not good of spelling anymore. I kind of lost that since I got out of school.

I don't write shit anymore. So there's so many words. I'm like, wait, how the fuck do I spell that? It happens to you all the time. Like, once you graduate college, you don't write things down anymore. You just type, like, you never write. it still takes me like a half a second

to make sure that I'm spelling restaurant correctly dude that's hardware to spell I'm not gonna lie I always get that wrong it's a restaurant

someone said Isaac knows because he lived through it shut the fuck oh that's hilarious someone said bro fell off in grammar he's just like me

facts where I used to be literate I don't know what happened Someone said keep the stream up for a Lakers game Now I gotta lock in and watch the game So these are gonna be like pregame shows for the playoffs We were talking about maybe doing watchalongs But I think I'd rather do it like this But I don't know you'll let me know what you think

Y'all I gotta fucking go bro It takes me a minute to go ahead and get to my goddamn living room I fucking what Yonis has I strain the fuck out of my calf I got a goddamn crutch right now Right behind me So I got a skedaddle All right

Limp over Limp over to the crutch You all me to limp over to the crutch On camera, let me see I'll show you my crutch All right Give us a tour A tour of the crutch

I ain't a lot to you I'm not efficient This is my first time Being on a crutches too It's back on his leg We need Yeah It's a little sum

Why not have two crutches? It feels like one crutch would be annoying one quench is annoying just have a one armpit hurt no i don't even put it i don't even put all that weight on that one one fucking leg all right man that's in the stream it's about before o'clock y'all go lock into the rest of these games today we'll be back with you guys on friday for the episode should be good