The Deep 3 Podcast - Predicting Every NBA Trade That Will Happen At The Deadline | TD3 Live

Episode Date: February 5, 2025

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We are live. Welcome back, everybody. Everybody's in the chat. We appreciate y'all coming in nice and early. We have quite the episode to talk about, quite the eventful week in the NBA, the most eventful week in a long time, even, in probably several years. Man, where do we begin? I don't know.

Yeah, I think that, like, obviously there's the very clear jump-off point. Like, Luka's still been traded. And there's been two times for me this entire weekend where it's actually felt real. I saw Luca get off the plane and I was like, oh, wow, like they actually did it. He's actually going to L.A. And then today he had his introductory press conference. I was like, wow, he is a Laker. And we're going to see this for the next decade.

Your goddamn right he is. Nico Harrison is out here playing in everybody's faces. I love everybody on Twitter. It keeps telling me I'm taking a heel turn. I'm taking a villain arc, and I'm, like, becoming the fucking bad guy because of this Lucas shit and how I'm rubbing in everybody's face. And I'm just not going to stop. You must not know who you are.

It's so good. Like, you've been on Luca, you've been on Luca's meat for, like, years now. And obviously, he's on your team. So it's like, you're going to be writing hard than ever. You had to defend me by calling me a dick writer. Nice. I mean, you know what you are. Welcome back, everybody.

You see everybody in the chat. Appreciate you all. As you guys see you by the title. We're going to talk about the remaining trade deadline moves, the players that are in rumors, where we expect everybody to go. But obviously, we're also going to talk about the things that have been happening with recent days. And we got to start by giving our second go around talking about the Luca Donter's trade.

We posted our emergency episode. That was like pure adrenaline. Literally, they texted me the trade happened. We jumped down. I ran in my basement. We turned the cameras on. So there was no time to think about anything. That was just raw emotion.

Now we've had some time. Mo, what's your main takeaway now after a couple days of thinking about it? Okay, so clearly, I remember you said these very specific words that I hope the viewers at the time in that big episode, like really swallowed and took in. They are probably going to know more than us at that point in time when the video was posted. We know almost little to nothing now and there was no actual real valuable information other than knowing that, you know, like, Miko Harrison has like legitimate issues. static. He probably has a troll at home and like he's just a troubled individual. He turned into a troubled individual. There's no others like supporting evidence. There's nothing crazy that came out of Luca or Lucas Camp that let us know that he wanted a trade. So this just lets me

know that like these Mavericks fans specifically are going to be in for a very, very long ride until this man's up out of office. Yeah, you're right. The main takeaway a couple of days later is it is still as bad shit insane as it seemed in the moment. In fact, I think it is increasingly more ridiculous every single time we've saw Nico Harrison open his mouth. It got more and more ridiculous. Somehow it was the least surprising the moment it happened when we knew nothing. Now that I know exactly what he was thinking, I'm like, oh, so he is just an idiot.

Like there isn't a silver lining. There isn't something he knows that we don't. He's just really, really bad at his job and just did the worst decision he ever making his life. not even is it's one thing to be like bad at it is one thing to be bad at your job just because you're bad at it it's another it's another thing to have like some weird like apparent personal vendetta against lucca and the way that he gets down that causes you to make a decision that makes you be bad at your job and changes the course of the franchise forever honestly

and a decision that obviously very little people in the organization knew about. It feels like something out of a reality show that you go back and you're like, oh, this is just beef because it's like, it's scripted. Something had to happen. They had to write in this little conversation. And now we look at it and it's like, yo, is Nico Harrison like a real housewife of Dallas? It doesn't make sense for any of this to happen. So every the comments was like, how much do you think Nico Harrison's xenophobia played into this?

And my first thought was like, come on, it's not fair to go there. And I thought about it. I was like, well, I guess nothing's off the table. Yeah, clearly there was some, they didn't get down with Luca from a front office down perspective, led by Nuka Harrison. There was lots of reports about things they did to alienate him over the years. And it seemed like they were looking for any reason to give up on the experience. They did not vibe with his personality, his work ethic, his fit with the team culture,

all this bullshit. And that got us here. it's just hilarious looking back now like it's so, so sad. If you're a Mazz fan you should be a Spurs fan by now. Dude, if you I think the entire NBA landscape or at me personally

I was looking at Nico Harrison before the trade deadline of last year or really like two years ago when they got Kyrie Irving, I was looking at him with like a real microscope because at that point in time the Mavericks were making every wrong decision

possible whether it be letting go a Jason, Jalen Brunson, the Chris Ospreting his thing also, then you go ahead, trade for Carrie Irving, you miss the playoffs, get seems to see worse and all that. Tank, okay, you get Derek lively, okay, you go ahead, upgrade your team even more, PJ Washington, and all that, and you make a run to the NBA finals and all the mistakes that you do in the past, just get reverted. And because you make that run and because this team's synergy and just everything is clicking and you got Derek lively and daniel got for the perfect like two bigs to bounce off with lucca carry irving's like the bet the best bad man you could imagine next to luca like everyone

just doesn't care about that anymore and now like a complete bombshells just dropped on her head and he just like exposes himself in like the worst way possible and all the wrongdoing that he did although it was undued for just like a singular year has been like gone I have no words I know you I can see everything good he did before this getting Kyrie getting PJ getting live everything you said the laundry list of good moves

that we applauded him for in the last year and a half is absolutely meaningless now he'll go down in history as a guy that traded Luca not the guy that did a lot of good before training Luca or the guy that maybe did a lot of good after training Luca he will just be the guy that got rid of the franchise legend and that's just a hilarious like I can't remember another time in which we saw

somebody in the NBA just stamp their legacy forever, no matter what happens before, what happens after, in this dramatic of a fashion. And it's, it's, I feel, I feel kind of bad because the, throughout the entire weekend, like, everybody has had a chance to sit with it and, like, we're supposed to come up here and tell you, you know, some type of, some level of, like, analysis and what's going down. I the only thing that I can think about to say is that it just doesn't make sense on every on every single level yeah it doesn't make sense because Luca in his intro press conference today said like they asked him was did you ever give you know any indication of that that you were not going to sign the superbacks and Luca like literally laughed it off it was like no yeah if he wasn't if he wasn't professional setting he would be like fuck no if you could exactly he's like why would I, why would I turn down 350, 370 million dollars? And knowing the way that, knowing the way that the NBA works, even if you thought that Luca didn't want to, didn't want to be there, he was still

going to sign it. And even if he signed the extension, if in two years, you wanted to trade Luca, you could do that. Somebody would trade for Luca Dantran. In two years, if you said that you want that you wanted to trade them doing it in this fashion makes absolutely no sense because one you completely tore down your fan base and your franchise and all the hope that you had specifically coming off of an NBA finals you tore it all down you ruined the spirits of everybody in the city two you did not ask anybody else if if anybody else had had another package so you can't even say yeah we're going to tear it down but here is our plan for the future you just made a random move where you just made a move that looks to be random and now you have ad and kireen you're

trying to sell this idea that you can still compete for a championship right now that's not that's not true and if you truly didn't like luka then what you should have did is been like a bad boyfriend and try to make the girl break up with you first like you sign with the extension you start leaking stuff here and there and then in a year and a half luca comes down and he's like yeah i'm not really rocking. I want to, I want to trade. And then you go from there, you get the bidding war, you get all the stuff. Doing it in this fashion, once again, does not make sense. So there's no level on which Nico Harrison's actions are appropriate in terms of how to operate as a GM with this level of star on your team. I have a new assumption. Okay. This trade literally

makes no sense. I like, this trade just like clicked with me in my head after we saw the Jason Kidd and Nico Harrison Press comments that you referenced a couple minutes ago, Isaac, when Nico Harrison said, we're focused on the future and I'm worried about the next three to four years, knowing who he just traded for

is like 31, 32 years old. The next three, four years are going to be like really lost versions themselves. He said that he's not worried about the future. This organization might bury him 10 years from now. The NBA is a goddamn suspect. This makes zero

sense whatsoever, bro. How are you doing this trade in the shadows? Just talking to a singular person who you're cool with. Everyone knew this trade was happening. No one was involved for a reason. The NBA is a goddamn suspect. You criminal, fuck.

It's Nikon. Is Nikon doing his best Magic Johnson impersonation of like, yeah, I was in meetings thinking, I'm not going to be here. He clearly thinks that there's a runway, and his number one thing was, one, I don't like Luca, we're going to get him out the paint.

And then in his mind, he's like, you know what will really show him winning a championship in the two to three years after I traded him? Yeah, that's good. And you obviously know the Mavericks are not going to win a championship. The whole fan base is going to be upset, and they're going to fire Nico Harrison in two years if they don't win a championship. Like, this move is very, very indefensible if you don't get. immediate results or if you do not have a plan in action to go and build up something else.

So, yeah, he operated. He said, I'm only thinking about the next three to four years and operated in a fashion that says, I'm only going to be here for the next two to three. According to Nico Harrison, I'm right on schedule. I'm just, I'm just sticking to the plan. You know, that's all I mean. You don't even go, you don't get another pick. And you don't even go, you don't get another pick, you get a singular pick.

you don't even get another white boy you don't go white for white you know like all right don't worry about i y'all got luca don't just i got don't to connect y'all couldn't even say get austin rees nothing and then had the audacity while everybody is still reeling today to pick up your phone and make another trade you put that phone down it's disgusting too step away from the phone nico you are clearly out of control how dare you How they, I don't care. They could have traded two first round. They could have traded one second round pick for two first round picks.

It could have been a good trade. I don't want to hear that today. That's not what I'm here for. Everybody in the city wants to fight Nico Harrison personally. And you still think that you have cachet to go out and make deals to which a lot of people don't even like the deal that he made today. Yeah, I'm going to say, I think maybe he's like, got to get some goodwill back, but I get back in the lab.

Keep showing him to make more moves. I can get better after this trade. And he says, Caleb Martin, people wanted to pay him this summer. He got a contract. He's good, right? People would like that.

Let me go ahead and trade. Quentin Grimes for him. That's a dub. Let me get some goodwill back up. And everyone was like, and everyone's like, oh, that might be dumber.

That might be dumber than the last one. It makes equally nonsense. Bro, it's like over the last 72 hours, his brain has gone, like, more smoother and smoother as time has gone on. And we actually need, there's like a cry for help out there in Dallas. Like, we've never seen this level of just misunderstanding. I need a hard knocks.

I need a hard knocks from the Dallas Maverick. Like the same way that over the offseason, we got to see, like, the Giants be like, yeah, we're not going to pay sick on bargaining. I need inside footage of what Nico Harrison was saying. Because it would just be so funny if, like, he made the trade. And he's like, man, yeah. You know what? Job well done.

He's just in his office. It's just milly rocking. Just like, oh, yeah. And everybody's outside protesting with pitchforks there. They called in. They put a coffin in that bitch. They brought in coffins. People Amazon climbed one day shipped coffins to make a funeral outside of it.

Like, nobody is on board with this. And you think that it's cool. I have no idea what's going through his brain. And like you said, Mo, it's just a very smooth-brained thing to do. The funny part, too, is he definitely thought he cooked. Like, he probably, before this, if they had the hard knocks like you're talking about and they had behind the scenes footage, I guarantee you, he was in that office with his cronies around him, his assistant GMs that are just like, yeah, Nico, they got love this one.

Keep going, cook, cook, he was in there like, sometimes it makes tough decisions to win a championship, but it made us better. and then he saw the internet immediately call him the biggest idiot known a man and he's just shell shock he didn't know what to do it was D-Day it was the biggest strike to his ego ever

and normally I don't like to get up here and be like these people are stupid these people are dumb like I try to find different verbiage besides that like to display like competency and not intelligence I feel comfortable calling him a fucking idiot like this is straight up not

intelligence it's so indefensible in every way that I can't even do a professional silver lining. It's insane. Absolutely. I am so comfortable over here saying, like, legitimately. I think two of the three of us would have done a better job in, like, displaying I think chat would have done a better job. Chat would have done a better job.

Chat would have done a better job. I think D. Mills would have done a better job. Fucking Pierre would have done a better job, bro. Fucking Legend of winning would have done a better job. Like, literally any creator whatsoever, anybody you with just like a working brain would have done a better job absolutely yeah he at least get too fresh off his bro all right man so obviously not a fun day to be a dallas mavix fan i assume i don't know if you guys are aware i'm having a great time as a lakers fan i think it's a wonderful day to reside or previously reside in the city of los angeles to have roots in the city

and be blessed with wearing purple and gold growing up roots in the city This is one of the fuck Has he ever said that He said that Whatever we did our initial reactions episode I was saying You know we did it

As soon as the trade Happened The question was Is LeBron gonna stay now He's so close At D That's his guy Luca

Is no gonna be the guy Now Lebron's to take The backseat And be a supporting cast member To Luca Does that interest him Is he gonna want to stay Is he gonna want to go to Cleveland

Or whatever Who knows Seems now he wants to stay He's probably excited to play with Luca We know he's a big Luca fan Apparently the Lakers have no interest in trading him Are you guys excited to see LeBron Be the sidekick to Luca Donchitz?

I am absolutely Absolutely fucking Louis Yeah I am I think like For for LeBron's sake I just think it's gonna be cool Because like Like we said on the emergency pod

Since he got to L.A Like Magic Johnson's initial plan was we're going to get a whole bunch of playmakers around LeBron. We're not going to play this like this very heavy like LeBron-centered ball. We're going to have everybody be able to create with the ball in their hands. And then obviously that doesn't go. And even when you had AD, the plan was we're going to give the tours to AD eventually. And he's going to be like the clear cut number one in that sense.

And then even lately before they, before they made this trade, you had AD, Austin Reeves was the one, you know, transitioning. into a point guard role being being the primary playmaker. You've always wanted LeBron to be able to finally sit down at the end of a day and just rest. And now he can finally, you know, kind of do that in a basketball sense and be the number two and have Luca still play at his level, play his kind of game. And LeBron be the ultimate role player for Luca. Yeah.

It's about time, right? Obviously, he's always on playmakers. he got the best one he got the best one possible and I know those fit concerns we'll get deeper into the basketball you know on fit on court fit analysis side of it on Thursday's trade episode of the main show we're going to do grades for every single trade at that point we'll get really nitty gritty about to fit spoiler I like it I think it'll be good it'll be good for lucca it'd be good for lebron all will be well it's just from a leaguer's perspective I understand some people want to try to like cope their way into thinking they won't be good because they're like

haters and everybody's like that, which I respect fully. They're going to be good. Center rotation, be damned. They're going to be good. Jackson Hayes is going to look a lot better catching Lops and Luca. They're probably going to make a trade for a Dayron Sharp or Robert Williams or somebody playable to be there with him. The strengths of this team are going to be outrageous.

Luca's going to be amazing. LeBron's going to fit well with him next to him. I'm sorry to say it to the haters out there, but it's going to be a strong, strong few years for Lakers. Yeah. But this trade right now, it makes me think not, not, again, And we're going to dive a little bit deeper into it next episode. But it makes me feel like, ah, damn, can this, like, possibly prolong LeBron's NBA career?

What do you want to sit down and win a championship with Luca? Like, there's no other guy in the league right now who can put LeBron in such position other than, like, fucking Yolkich. Yeah. All right, man, we'll talk about this trade even more come Thursday or come Friday for you guys when you get the episode out. For now, we have another big trade to move on to. But before we get to that, I have a bunch of donations to read to you guys.

We're getting a ton of donors coming through. Everybody's here. excited to hear us talk about this trade. First off, shout out to shrimp dream or shrimp dream for $1.73. He said fly eagles fly, Donovan. You got an ally in the chat. Go birds. Shout out to Nadak 9 for tipping $3. He said, if you tried this shit in 2K, it would have said we're not stupid enough to trade away our future. Shout out to Bush did Harambe for $5. Thanks. Appreciate you. Shout out to I of avocado for $12. Shout out to I of avocado for $12. dollars appreciate you he said damn you Isaac at this point the trade really took the cake

damn you Isaac damn you he said Lakers fans will never know the struggle bus with the rate of the miracles popping up for them every 27 minutes I don't know if you understand this as a Lakers fan I am a person of your great stress you are a spoiled brat you are a marginalized person stop it stop it you won a championship four years ago before we came on i just was like yeah man i'm actually so glad that this straight happy i really wasn't having fun watching the lakers we're like shut up man you got a championship four years ago you're in the finals every single decade more need more i don't want to hear any of this i need more legends more superstars shout out to louis wow most of my jana johnson is out for the season he has no hope bro i don't care what part of my NBA life is better than yours don't

don't you understand. We're not operating from equal circumstances. I just get to be better. That's how it goes. It's a three seed. He can't get the three seed. Mo can't get 49 wins. He's panning for wins. I don't, I just, I don't operate from the, I don't operate from the basis of equality as an NBA viewer. It's not going to happen. Shout out to Louis the human. I just sit here, be a hawks fan. Get stabbed every day. What? Shout out to Louis the Human for tipping $20. He said,

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Let's talk about Victor Women Yama. Let's talk about Victor Womeniama's team. Let's talk about the Deerrin Fox of it all. It finally happened. We were talking about this for weeks and weeks leading up. There was a lot of rumors out there that Deer and Fox would become available. And when he does, there was a team in mind he wanted. We all kind of thought it would be a Texas team.

It was a matter of which one. Then it came out. It's the Spurs. And who would have thought when a clutch player wants to go to a team, he eventually gets that goddamn team. Deeran Fox is a member of the Spurs. How are y'all feeling about this deal? Okay, I want to save a couple of my thoughts on the kings and the bulls. I'm going to keep this kind of focus on the spurs.

Yeah, we'll talk about the trade at full for Thursday's episode for sure. Yeah. Yeah, we're trying not to spoil a lot of stuff. But on the spur side of it, shout out to y'all. This is exactly what I wanted them to do. You went out. You struck while the iron was hot. You did not wait.

A lot of people, a lot of people were saying, oh, why don't you just wait until either the summer? Why don't you just wait like a year and a half? Because Deering clearly wants to play for you, you can just sign them then. The NBA moves so fast, so quickly. Who knows what's going to happen in two days, right? Much less a year and a half, six months. You have to take every opportunity that is presented to you.

And if an all-star caliber guard like Deere Fox wants to go to your team, you do have to make that trade, especially when you see Wembe ascending to the levels that he is ascending. So I'm very happy that they did not sit on their hands. I'm very happy that they did something that normally they don't really do, right? The Spurs aren't the very like transaction heavy, trade heavy type of team. But they said it's different now. We have Wendy in year two. He's going to be an all NBA player.

We have to go start building the score. I'm happy they did that. Yeah, shout out then, man. I was saying they shouldn't be in a rush to do it. I'm okay if they wait. But I also was very okay if they just got to Aaron Fox. But it all depends on what they give up for him, right? You don't want to do a Carmelo-Oethney situation famous.

where they gave up their whole starting five for a guy that was going to come through months later. And this wasn't that extreme. It was a year and a half later, so that's a lot harder of a pill to swallow. You can't waste 18 months of any players' NBA careers, let alone Victor Wibbenyama when he's on a rookie contract.

They got this man without giving up a single player that matters or a single elite draft pick they have. They kept all of those valuable hawks picks for that terrible ass team who they control the future of and they kept their next couple years of their own picks so they control their future this year. They gave up 2027 first-on pick,

which might matter a little bit and a 231 Minnesota pick and then two fake-ass draft picks that weren't going to convey because they were heavily protected and they kept Vassell and they kept Castle that's just like highway robbery

you give up nothing of importance for a really good player it's amazing heavy on Vassel and Castle bro like there was so much discourse online between all types of fans across the league whether or not Stefan Castle should be

a moving piece some people are like oh like yeah it doesn't really matter and other people are like bro like defensive versatility and all that once the shotguns run is a perfect picture perfect piece like to have and retain all that and to retain the spacing heavy on spacing that devon basel provides because he's one of their best two-point shoot one of the best three-point shooters on that starting lineup like that is so amazing for this team and now I'm going to be so interested in seeing how they operate with chris paul coming off the bench now and being like one of the you know a better okay starting point girl or better point guys coming off the bench. The outritted Trey Jones, amazing stuff. And ting got deeper.

You've added so much juice. Like a cancer. Like he's the problem. He's just like not good. Amazing stuff. Get him out of here. Well, if you're not good around Victor Wemba Yamma,

that's an issue, bro. No, you're right. It's a very, very nice advantage to have to have Chris Paul running your bench unit. He fits incredibly well with Wembe. So Fox is a good but not perfect fit, especially as a passer.

But obviously the strength of Fox, the scoring and everything are so good, and you can hope that over time some of the weaknesses he has are kind of strengthened by Wemby's presence with the five-out spacing he brings, with the crazy Lop Thoret he is, everything that he does to make people better. You kind of hope that Fox's tendencies kind of meet in the middle and you get something perfect. But while that's developing, you got Chris Paul doing every single thing Wembe needs, feeding him the ball coming off the bench when Fox isn't playing. Maybe they play a little bit together.

It's just a really nice fit now for like a transition year where you have this time to get them on the same page and the next year if Chris Paul's gone Fox is fully integrated there since you have a cell still you have Castle still and you have all those

Hawks picks still and your own picks you can do another big trade too so it's just a really great spot to be you for the second half of the season that's why and that's why I was very very like

set on no they have to make a move right now because like you know you know it takes time to build chemistry and then you also know the fact that like like you said

it's not a 100% perfect match, right? And like to be honest, finding 100% perfect matches are very, very hard. So you are often going to need time to message. So that's why I thought like they needed this runway. And depending on what happens at this at this deadline, now that you have Deeran there and you fleeced, like I do expect the spurs to make the run and for them to get into the playing. And if you can get everybody on that. roster some some experience in terms of games that matter and you can get and you can get dearon Fox back into that zone as well like that's perfect going into next year not only for them but also for for like their coaching their coaching staff because you obviously like don't don't necessarily

know what the coaching situation is going to be like next year and so you do want to get your your coaching staff some experience in high leverage moments I think it's it's a win-win for everybody in San Antonio. Yeah. Yeah, I 100% agree. And I think right now, the playoffs basically start for the San Antonio Spurs. Like, every single game matters. They're about like five or six games, I think, away from being in the playing. And obviously, we see the Sacramento Kings are there. They got a little bit worse, or sizably worse, I guess. And they're easily going to be falling off. And who knows what else is going to happen during the trade deadline? This team should be able to make the run easily into the plan and you're right like getting the experience and like seeing

what devon vassel and how stephan castle is able to like progress alongside this new new piece of daren fox and wembe will be so important the spacing is a little bit scary that's a little bit scary because it's so and then you know stephan castle is going to play a big part as well and daren fox isn't innately like just a shooter so a lot of information will be downloaded and i think this is a perfect time to do so yeah I think Castle doesn't go on the bench, though. It'll be fine. I've seen there was that horrific ass.

You guys saw that horrific ass starting lineup graphic that ESVM put out for engagement bait? Oh, yeah. It was Chris Paul, Fox, Castle, Vassell, and Wembe. Like, shut the fuck up. You know, that's not going to happen. What the hell? I didn't even see.

That's hilarious. So it's probably going to be Fox, Vessel, Barnes, Sohan, with Chris Paul and Castle at the bench. Which is, that's a nice. They have some good wings at the bench, too. in Champany and Brandon like they have some pieces that's a decent little team like that's a playing team they should make that run like you guys are saying yeah there's three games out of the 10 seed right now two games back of the warriors and the sons in the

law column so like there's a there's a listen depending on what moves or I guess like not moves that the warriors make at the at the deadline San Antonio can pass them Phoenix we we expect them to blow it up or to make some moves. Also, they're just not really good. So San Antonio can also pass them. And then we'll see what Minnesota and what Dallas do and if they can hang on throughout the rest of the year. But yeah, there's a run now for San Antonio to get there.

And, you know, the West playing, just because of how stacked it's always been, the last couple years, it's been really, really good. And you've had a lot of these stars. You're going to get some matchups in there where it's going to be really, really interesting. where you're going to have like wendy potentially step duran all these all these guys the west plane is going to be really fun yeah and as far as the other teams in the deal like i said

we're going to talk about them at length on thursday's episode where we're going to trade uh grade every single trade that happens at the deadline so we'll get into minutiae there but overall the kings did a king's thing right they decided they want to continue to try to be good around this court and try to roughly say the same getting zach levine in there for dearon fox probably keeps you roughly the same there's pros and cons of both players Levine is a great fit there in terms of like his play style but in terms of what the team needs to get really good

Levine doesn't change that so if you thought the Kings looked good the past couple weeks everything clicking Malik Monk being the kind of low key the main point point guard playing through him and really letting that thrive Zach Levine will fit just perfectly into that so whatever your goal is is the Kings if you want to stay

the same you stay the same good job we got a shout out Mo too because Moe's for the last a year and a half Moe's been calling Zach Levine to the king and he finally got that. Yeah, you wanted to see Fox and Levine play together. Now you get to see Monk and Levine play together. Yeah, I knew there were meant to be something because, like, the Sacramento Kings and Bulls front office is think alike.

And that's so damning. They were like it was going to happen. They were both involved in the trade, too. Yeah. Yeah, I knew it was going to happen. Not necessarily what I was aiming for, but I mean, I'm going to take the win. What is it like, yes? You weren't wrong.

So that's all that matters. yeah exactly below key again we'll talk specifically i like the fit a lot of malik monk and levin next to sabonis that makes a lot of sense for basketball reasons i just wish demar de rosen wasn't there i wish that levin didn't have to go back to wearing those handcuffs of playing next to de rosen he was so good this year freed being the main guy being going to fly around without having to play off of damar for him to go back to that i'm like damn man kind of sucks for you he's going it's kind of worse now too because he's now he's i mean i guess Nicole vucevich at least back in DeMardo's days was like

masquerading as a as a spacer De Montesbos is just like Tobon is like 47% from three this year obviously on very low volume with very little spacing respect but he's he's shooting him yeah he is if it was like on three tons for game

they'd be like okay like maybe we're talking but also his passing hub and stuff like the way he set screens and does handoffs he does generate some spacing with that like you can't really leave him open or those he gets in the handoff game so I think we'll get a very great version of Levine especially in minutes without Damar.

I would like it a lot if the Damar thing never happened and it was Keegan Murray as the third scoring wing next to Malik Monk and Levine that would move me a lot. Man. Yeah, we'll talk more about it on there.

And the Bulls are just being the Bulls. They traded their best player who's in a great year who rehabbed his PR. They traded him for essentially nothing but a bunch of worth his contracts. Complete utter ridiculous asset management. They continue to suck in every way

but that's the Bulls prerogative. So in the same way the Kings want to be the Kings, The Bulls want to be the Bulls, both accomplish their goal here of doing something completely lateral. Yeah. It's hilarious. Well, again, we'll talk about that deeper.

I hate the Bulls for an office on my fucking heart. I hate talking about the... Let's talk about trade rumors now, things that might keep happening after these two big moves, the rest of the landscape around these two, is moving. We're getting some action. And I think the main thing right now to watch is the Golden State Warriors. after weeks of clearly them having zero urgency to do anything in fact i think they had all the urgency in the world to do nothing they had steve cur and step curry out there fucking towing the company

line saying all the stuff for joe lago we don't want to make moves we don't want to mortgage the future we're happy where we are we'll get it out the mud all this stuff that seems to have completely reversed itself since they saw the lakers go and get luca donchich we were getting reports left and right that they are contacting every single star they can possibly get on the phone trying to make something happen they look desperate as a hell right now do you guys think down bad

down bad as hell this is a horrendous look bro do you guys think they actually didn't get somebody because Sean's literally said verbatim they have checked in with every all-star player in the league and I think he means ones that might be like somewhat realistically available

but he said they checked it on Palo Mancaro and Lamelo ball please anybody please we just can't do it anymore that's hilarious right And obviously on top of those names, the biggest thing is they're checking in on Kevin Durant, trying to make that happen. And there's a lot of smoke there for maybe if the suns don't pull off a Jimmy trade, maybe they'll go the other way. I don't know if there's fire, but there's a lot, a lot of smoke.

And that's the type of smoke that I want to gravitate towards to be honest because that would be so fun to see. Although, like, things are a little bit, yeah, it would be so fun. Like, things are different. They don't have clay anymore. So fun. It's tough. Kind of fun, though. nah it'll be so fun seeing

and trying to get the band back together somewhat what happens but what happens like when you get the band back together and now everybody is like 60 and like you have arthritis so you can't play the drums the same and like your voice is different because you've been smoking cigarettes

for the last 30 years it's like a Rolling Stones reunion tour yeah and it just doesn't sound the same like you know what I'm like you they used to come out here and like matching suits and you know do choreography and now everybody's just sitting now. I don't know how fun it would be

as soon as you see Steph and Katie together and you have the whole you have the Olympics part of it where yes, they got together they won the gold medal and everything looked so fun and everybody was so happy playing with each other. What happens when you lose three games in a row and you're like, dang, these are just

these boys just old now. Yeah, like I want to see it too. I don't want to see Steph go outside. We've talked about this plenty over the past months. We want to see him get a lifeline. And Kevin Durant's a great lifeline. but that trade will require Andrew Wiggins for money clear first and foremost it would probably require Kaminga because it's Kevin fucking Durant we're going to get your best asset and

that's Jonathan Kaminga obviously picks or whatever than more salary on top of that does a team that's Steph Curry I guess they would have Moses Moody to start the shooting guard because that'd be decent fit Kevin Durant Draymond TJD is that a better team fucking duh is that one of the best two teams in the west I don't know it might be kind of It feels disorienting to see Kevin Durant and Steph play together and them not be the best team. Like, that would be kind of sad. Yeah. Yeah, most definitely.

I think the whole goal of this trade and them like checking with every all-stars is like, yeah, we all know like there's nothing that they can do at this point in time to be one of the top two, three teams or maybe even four teams in the league. Like that ship is clearly sailed. But can you have at least like some respect? Can you have like the answer dignity? Can you give me at least like false hope? Because right now, they can't even give me any of those things. But if I have Cameron Durant on my team, give me two top, I don't know, 12, 13,

however you view like two top players in the league alongside like Dremont Green, who's still an all-N-B-A-level defender, that gives them a real opportunity to at least sell me hope. And that's all I need at the end of the day. Yeah. Again, I would like that more than nothing. It's funny, though, we just talk more about the every star trade because if they're desperate, apparently we got a report here from this guy that's a local Philadelphia

journalist of some sort I think he's a radio show from the looks of his profile picture Golden State has called the pictures about Paul George Oh, it's in my says Pershams, okay What the fuck?

Has anybody watched Paul George this year? Anybody in the Golden State Warriors for an office? Have they been aware of how the year has gone? I know they wanted Paul George in the summer and it didn't work out. They tried to do a sign trade when he was leaving the Clippers

and the Clippers said, go to hell, we're not helping you. We don't want to deal any salary back. fair. I understand why they want him at the time. We were all under the assumption he would be you know, still a good, like maybe not quite all sort of level, but like some version of what we got last year.

He's been terrible this year. He's really injured, really old, and it hasn't looked pretty. If they, dude, I follow a lot of Warriors fans. I am quite in touch with the psyche of the Warriors fans and they're on the edge right now. They can go either way. They can jump or they can be talked down.

If they're all in a move, is trading comminger for Paul. George? Oh my God, that would be awful. That would be horrendous. Yeah, you'd have to fire up the lifeline immediately. Like, hire some extra that pay people, you know, time and a half. Like, the lines have to be open.

Paul George has been better over the last, like, 10 games that he's played. What does better look like? I haven't seen his last 10 averages. What does better mean? Like shooting 44% from the three point line and 47% from the field. Wasn't that too? Like definitely a lot better. Yeah.

Yeah, a lot better averaging 20 as well, but good. You know, he's, he's been out the last four games. Yeah. He's not going to be still not 100% the same Paul George. So even though he's like been more efficient as shit, like if you're not going to be there consistently like I need you to be, then what's the fucking point again? And that's where I, that's where I tap back into the psyche of just like telling fans like, yo, we're not going outside anymore. Paul George at least give you hope the idea of like maybe we can do something special. Yeah.

It's also interesting that Windhorst reported earlier Everything's on the table for helping Steph Curry And he says everything means Draymond Green is on the table I don't know if that's just conjecture I don't know how serious that is I don't think Wind Horse talks to have his ass in this type of thing Usually What deal would make sense to get rid of Draymont

Can't do that That sounds crazy Unless like Actually no I just don't think that there's A point in trading if you didn't trade Draymond after last season

or after the punch you can't trade him now I think wait a minute yeah this can he says this at the same time as the Kevin Durant smoke is in the air maybe maybe they have concerns about pairing KD with Draymond up again

I'm sure they're professionals but I'm sure that's you know that's an element of some sort is there a world where it makes sense to trade him as the main salary and keep Andrew Wiggins and go for more wing centric look around him without Draymond

So you have Wiggins, Kaminga, and Kevin Durant? I don't think so because I think you throw off, you throw out a decade of chemistry whenever you do that. And like you are you are already going to be rearranging your team, bringing in KD and, you know, reacclamating everybody and whatever, all that stuff. Having as many familiar faces as possible is very, very helpful. and having also an act like a good

good defender on your on your team still matters so I think you have to have Draymond on this team my cat is scratching her forehead on my mic arm right now just rubbing me against if there's noise because of that y'all that's cost of doing business yeah I don't think the

this team with that trade sounds like so fun to think of and it'll be just like for non-bossed basketball reasons the absolute most hilarious shit ever. But for basketball reasons, I'm thinking like you just going back to Donovan, you throw away too much of what that war's identity is. You throw away half like the lore of this team, the identity of this team. And this is just not worth entertaining whatsoever if you have to get rid of dream on. Yeah, let's prioritize lore. Let's do it. Let's let's Laura Max and the Golden State franchise.

At this point in time, yeah, that's so important. What else is important? Winning? Clearly not. yeah okay so we'll see if the warriors do anything outside of the warriors if there is Kevin Durant smoking Kevin Durant is available where else would you guys want to see him realistically go at this point of free I mean at this point let's talk about the biggest dummy right now which is Nico Harrison I 110% believe that he probably isn't done making moves and he would definitely tap in for someone like Kevin Durant be back in his 2012 mindset yo got Kyrie AD and I got KD along with like Daniel Gaffer, Derek lively

still were frying the league, which that would Hey, that's a fucking really really nice team. They can't keep all those guys if they get Kevin Durantz. Can't they not? No, certainly not. You named everybody good on the team. Derek Live will be gone immediately. Yeah, Derek Live.

Only person you didn't name was Clay Thompson. Gone for salary reasons. Yeah, he'll for sure be out of there. But just thinking about the trio of like AD and Kyrie. I'm not sure how the salary would work right now. But if it is workable, that's 110%

something that would do. And I wouldn't hate that. I don't know. I mean, I like their current wing depth, but they don't have the star power to win a championship right now as part of why the move is so fucking ridiculous.

Kyrie and Katie back together. I wouldn't hate it. It didn't work out for all the reasons it didn't work out, but the basketball fit was never a question. Having Anthony Davis with those two, that would be dope as fuck. Like, sure, you lose PJ Washington.

You lose all your death. You lose Clay Thompson. You probably lose Derek Lively. who's your future. Who cares? Who gives us shit? Lucas, we can do whatever we want. It's like nothing matters at this point.

Yeah. Obviously the grizzly is something we've talked about as we really want for Kevin Durant. Nothing linked to that yet. The only rumor I've seen is really warriors-focused. But maybe that would change if there was indication to the rest of the league that Katie's available.

That's true. I've kind of been getting a little bit more on board. with KD to the Rockets, and we just complete this trio of Texas teams, you know, taking a leap, taking a step. Because the more and more I watch the Rockets play, and obviously some of it is like confirmation bias, and obviously I'm like trying to be right. But I do think that there is a very, a very real thing with them not having a go-to score in the playoffs.

Just say, Jay, the Green Panas again. Just say it. no no it's it's it's a lot of people but this is even green he's bad after that good stretch it's okay it's okay it's okay i know what you want to get it's okay i know you it's okay if you can put kevin to rent on that team i feel really really good about about the rockets at that point um because everything everything that they do um like from everywhere else on the court i love like i love i love the way that they play basketball i love i love the way that they play basketball i love i love the way that they compete and getting just a straight killer in KD would solve their main

issue and now I would love it now Chris Mannix did report today and again I'm saying Chris Manix that's not exactly a source per se yeah reported from his whatever that there the rockets aren't interested in trades involving young players unless it's for Devon Booker that's just like common sense so that's a pretty safe report to put out there like I think you'll probably be right if you thought it out there I don't know if they get rid of like the certain one get rid of a man I don't even know if you're rid of Tarzan for Kevin Durant at his age. And I don't know if there's a way to make that deal happen without giving up something of interest. Kevin Durant is still good enough that if those sons decide they want to blow it up,

they're not getting rid of Kevin Durant like for scraps or salary. Like it's going to be a haul again still. Which is crazy because like he's two, three years older than what he was whenever you got him. Like at some point we have to draw the line and you just can't like I can't give you three first round picks. and a pig swap and two, uh, two players trading for, for KD every single time. They're in the chat right now saying Mo looks asleep is more okay. Someone said Mo does not look okay. I look sick.

No, I kind of am sick a little bit. They said you look like you're asleep. Maybe I am. Please tell me this is a whole fucking dream. I hope I'm asleep, bro. Please tell you fucking Luke is not a liquor. I hope I am. I got some bad news for you.

Welcome to reality. I thought you're actually going to break some, like, insane news. Yeah, I thought something was happening. I was actually scared as fuck. It's just real. Imagine I'm, again, the Lakers got Nick Claxton for a second round pick. Shut up. Listen, you've been trying to, you've been saying that a lot all day.

I need you to relax on that. Well, speaking of your distance. Calm down. Please don't. No, I mean, it'll take more than the second round pick. All right, let's talk about the other big stars in the news. Who has been in the news for quite some time? It's getting quite tiring, actually.

Jimmy Butler has apparently Turned down several trades That could have happened to contenders Because he didn't want to go there Because they wouldn't sign him We know one of them is Memphis Grizzlies It seemed like one of them was a Warriors I thought this was very admirable in the beginning

I was fully not admirable, that's wrong word I thought it was very understandable in the beginning I was like fuck yeah Jimmy tear this bitch down They don't want to pay you Pat Riley's old as hell I'm sure he's moving crazy Burn the bitch to the ground But that's because at the time he said I'll play for 29 other teams

I don't give a shit. Like, get me out of here. He was about it. Since then, he's made it very clear who will play for exactly one other team and that is the Phoenix Suns. He's making it a mission to tear down every other possible trade.

So now I'm like, what the fuck do you want? Because if they can't trade you because Bradley Bill doesn't want to leave, what's next? Do you want to go back to Miami? Like, what's the goal here, James? Yeah. Indecisive, bro.

What the hell's going on here? That's pretty much what it's looking like. And like you can see the writing on the wall And there were reports today of, like, yeah, Jimmy Butler is actually ready to, you know, resume his career and everything's going good. And so you can kind of feel the fact that, like, he just threw everything in the room down. He just tore the room up. And now he's walking back in and just like, hey, everybody. Like, I'm back.

Like, my bad. I was wilding, you know, but, hey, we're still good. I just, I don't think that Phoenix makes the move for Jimmy Butler. because again if you're bradley bill you're like why why would i do that i'm still getting my money and i don't have to move i don't want to do that i don't even so is that how you feel though like i've seen a report that's how he feels i also feel like they're they're clearly in talks of sons i don't think they would be entertaining this i think we would hear it from a very clear report that it can't happen because bradley bele said no like i feel like there has to be some

idea that he's open to it otherwise these talks wouldn't be happening and if you're bradley bill you get your money regardless. Would you rather be on this terrible-ass team living in Phoenix than going to Miami if that's a possibility? And maybe Miami doesn't want him. Maybe that's the whole up. He'd go to a third team.

But like, I would be very okay with going on the heat if I was in Bradley Bill's shoes. Listen, people, people, obviously it's not Miami. I'm not going to sit up here and act like that. People speak pretty highly about Phoenix. They say that Phoenix is low-key kind of lit.

Sure. You've been to Phoenix before? And it's like a, I have, I've been, in the phoenix i was i wasn't even shitting on phoenix i was more so shitting on the suns in like the terrible ass basketball situation like i don't know again i'm sure the part of it he has a family there you don't want to move your family around if you don't have to that's the real human element of it probably but i don't know if a team is signaling like they don't fucking want me at all i i'd be like i bet send me to the cooler place yeah i just it's kind of like

a lose lose because the heat are also mid and so you're like i like if i if i if i If I'm Bradley Bill, at this point in my career, I've played for the wizards, a majority of my career, and I got my money there. I came to Phoenix because I thought we were going to be better. We got swept in the playoffs last year. We stuck this year. I'm not going to another, unless you are sending me to a top-notch contender, I'm not going. So that's why, like, if I was Bradley Beale, the only place that I could see in terms of teams that

have been in this mix, I'm going to the Milwaukee Bucks, and that's probably it. but I'm not going to go to another team that is like fourth or fifth in the standings and we're going to have to have an uphill climb we're not going to have home court advantage in the first round I want to go on to a team that I know it's going to be good I kind of like Bradley Biel in the heat I don't think he or that far away

Tyler Hero is an all star now wait that far away from what being decent like Bradley Bills a good player Bradley Biel can still create he can still be a useful player he's just not a good fit there I think Bradley Beal is a decent fit next to Tyler He was a decent fit Next to Tyler, where he's bringing a stretch five

That that continues to be a thing Like that's not a terrible fit You said the heater mid They are compared to the calves And the Celtics and stuff But if I'm Bradley Beal I feel like that's a good fit for me I feel like I can get my shit off there

And help them be a better team The Miami Heat are 24 and 23 They are the definition of mid Like that is that is the word I said it's mid That would be appealing to me If I'm Bradley Beal Like that's not terrible mid

The Suns are mid and they have no hope and it's gross and it's not fun. The heat like they're mid because they also haven't had Jimmy Butler all year when he has been there he's been not trying, he's been terrible like they he have hope of some sort

they have some upward trajectory that you can put your faith into that the suns just don't have it. Yes but you need you need to be mid plus at best and I don't think that the heat right now are mid plus I think you have to be you have to be mid plus or on the borderline of being like contender status

and like most said like the heat are kind of far away from being in that like upper echelon into a space where you actually think that they're that they can do something again these the runs to the finals from the eighth seed and the seventh seed and all that those those days are not happening this year that's not going down that so that's why for me like looking at the landscape i don't see bradley bill going anywhere someone told me what someone told me calm down someone told me to check what what someone told me to check

Mark Stein's Twitter I just checked the sons have downgraded Kevin Durant to doubtful for Wednesday's game against Oklahoma City as trade speculation

continues to swirl around the future Hall of Famer this guy's getting moved they put him doubtful with a left ankle sprain cap his ankle's fucking fine

I watched I watched him last night he was fine he was hooping he's okay y'all I don't know where it's going to be but like I said earlier

there's a lot of smoke too much smoke to not be at least a little ember there's at least a start of a fire here I don't know you sent KD to the kings listen man someone said Isaac check the athletics new report on Kevin Durant with the athletic post let me go check

should I check the athletic official Twitter yeah while you're taking with the athletic no Mark Stein is not with the analytics you said what he asked us the same thing I said no Mark Stein's not with the athletic. Ah, okay. Oh, well, this is

quite ironic, ironic. For me, athletic, the Mavericks have dreams of adding Kevin Durant to their duo of Anthony Davis and Carverie River league sources to be athletic. While Adir,

while a deal, whoa, I can't talk. While a deal appears unlikely to happen, the mere idea sheds a new light on the thinking of GM, Neco Harrison. Oh, okay, so this means nothing. This is saying he thinks he'd be cool, but it's not going to happen.

Okay, so I wrote down a fake trade. I ran it through Fanspo. Of course, the Phoenix Sons are a second April team, so it's like really, really hard to do so. But there are plenty of loopholes. And they can invite plenty of other teams and throw them like a second round pick. Call it Bainage again. And it is like crack head ass to take a second like in a heartbeat, no matter what. So I wrote down.

Okay, throwing Clay Thompson, PJ Washington, Daniel Gafford, Max Christie. I believe there's like a $700,000 difference within that. give that cash to another team or whatever the case may be, work that shit out in exchange for one singular Kevin Durant and boom, that's how this trade happens.

And then you're left with a squad of Kyrie, A.D. and Kady. And then pretty much nothing else after that. Great. Lovely. Okay, a new one. This is per NBA Central.

I guess this was deeper in the athletic article that I didn't get to read because I didn't click it. A three-team trade involving the Warriors Heat and Sons, sending Andrew Wiggins to the Heat and Jimmy Butler to the Sons has been discussed. The further quote is, both the Warriors and Sons have cluttered salary structures, but both ownership groups have shown a willingness to pay up for players they desire. If the Warriors also have a potential path to help guide Butler to Phoenix, if they will pull the trigger

on Andrew Wiggins-centric trade with Miami, that has been discussed. Now, this doesn't say anything about KD, but is this assuming Kevin Durant goes to the, to the Warriors? I guess it has to be, right? like Katie's actually going to get moved if they're not going to be able to like land anybody Jimmy Bullets specifically Hey Kevin Durant home man

Draymond Green is a player that the sons would covet in Trey Talks with the Warriors I just don't believe that for an office That gets back to what I was talking about Where if you can get Kevin to rant for Dramong Green And keep Kaminga and keep And you can if you convince Matt Ishby and James Jones That they're better off

Blowing it up and pairing Devin Booker and Bradley Beal with Draymond Green. Is that, are you better off Kevin Raymond? That makes more sense because the fit is seamless. But I just don't think

the Warriors and would ever entertain that like giving up Draymond for game. Are you sure? Like that just, if it's Kevin Durant, are you sure? I don't think it would happen. I would not do that if I was warriors. Also, the word covet is crazy.

Why are you coveting Dreamon Green if you're the sons? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I just couldn't do it. That just defeats the entire purpose of wanting KD in my mind. Like, cool. I get like top seven or eight player in the world. Obviously, it's amazing. But we just lost the back one of our defense and someone who like is a major integral part to the Steph offense that we've been reeking have. This athletic article is huge. This athletic article also said the Houston Rockets could show interest in Kevin Durant. That is very unprecise language. Anybody could show interest. So I'm guessing this is like nothing substantive. Like they're not pursuing or anything. But yeah, they, they probably. They probably, like, did their due diligence, had a meeting.

It was like, hey, should we trade for Kevin? And then, like, everyone, like, you know, like, you just talk about it. I, the Kevin and the rest of it's so weird. Yeah. The, the KD stuff is, is super weird because, like, obviously KD at this point in his career, like him and Steph both have to be in very optimal situations. And I do think that, at least basketball-wise, having Draymond there, would be the most optimal.

But if KD's just like, hey, he ran me out of town last time, we're cool, but I'm just not going to play with him again. And you have to make that move in order to get Katie. If you're the Warriors, at that point, if it comes down to that, then you have to make the decision of what are we in this for? Are we in this to try and win a championship? Or are we just trying to, you know, maintain good vibes within our inner circle guys. There's also a lot of nasty noise

around the Bucks trying to swap Chris Middleton for Kyle Kuzma. What the hell are we even talking about right now? I can't express to you enough how fucking disgusting that would be for Bucks fans. That would be the nail in the coffin, I think, for this organization. It's like title run right now.

I understand they're pretty solid now and they can make a run. They're a solid team and Chris Middleton's lack of availability while making enough money to be their only real pathway to upgrading. That's the hindrance on your roster when he's not available. I fully understand that. If your answer is to replace him with Kyle Kuzma,

you are out of your goddamn mind. You're fucking ludicrous. Kyle Kouzma is horrible this year. You are insane. You are insane. If you watch 2025 Kyle Kuzma and you said, put him next to Yonis, put him next to Dame, that would be outlandish.

Championship player. That would be crazy. The only reason why you would do that because you is it's purely off of availability and purely off of yeah I think this guy can play more games in the playoffs than they're not thinking again you're not thinking about how they play you're just thinking about the idea that they play why chat spam and check legion hoops what oh my god what is it oh wait no chat this is the same thing this has happened three minutes ago this is the same guy reporting that it showed Chris middleton to wizards for Kyle kuzma and yonis

Valchunist and Nurkish swap is getting close but it's per at Steve Bhoop I don't know who the fuck that is so part of that is like I said the Kuzma for Chris Middleton swap but also he's reporting Jonas Valchunis for Nurkich so Valencius going to the Suns I guess I guess okay bro

it sucks to say there's a lot of A lot of teams, especially with, like, their big salaries, a lot of guys are just in the mud. And it's like, I don't think a lot of these deals are going to be really pretty. We've already gotten the nuclear stuff out the way. Nuclear has been traded. Like, obviously, KD and Jimmy Butler would probably be the only other nuclear ones. But they've been going on, specifically the Jimmy one, they've been going on for so long that at this point, it's just like, all right, we're just done with it. I'm not sure how I feel about a lot of these other moves

and I have to see how it plays out before I actually grade it. You know what's one move that I want to see happen? I want to see Lonzo Bob moves so, so, so fast. Me too. He would be so good next to Luca Donchitz. He would be so perfect next to Luca. The connecting point guard slash connecting wing who can do a lot defensively, be a good passer.

Imagine the passing talent of LeBron. Luca and Lonzo Ball call it in Lonzo Ball for free to the Los Angeles Lakers I almost just turned off my camera Donovan yeah we're gonna have to go we might have to beat him with hammers this is like the worst thing to happen

to the Tar and Thudder Not only to TD3 Todd brother Let's get him alive how about that One thing that we haven't talked about enough That kind of like fell out of the rumors He kind of fell by the wayside Brandon Ingram

I feel like he might get traded out of left field just nobody's talking about it because I guess the Pelicans are just more quiet than most organizations I did forget Yeah, everyone forgot

but he's pretty good He hasn't been available all year but he's probably going to get traded either now or in the summer for sure Jake Fisher reported that Ingram still has a very small chance of ending up in Golden State if they strike out on Katie and Jimmy

there's still a chance of a deal going to Atlanta I've seen that I've seen Atlanta we reported a couple times today and the Golden State Warriors and the Toronto Raptors are apparently linked to Brandon Ingram a little bit

which to me that would scream R.J. Barrett's salary but I don't know for sure. Would Brandon Ingram interest you in the Hawks? Because that makes sense to me as a team we talked about being mid and not having a lot of pathways to go forward. Ingram's a pretty good buy low and he fits that archetype they're looking for

with these big wings. He could do some creation. He can play next to Jalen Johnson. I'd kind of like that. It wouldn't be bad at all. Right now, like as a Hawks fan, after seeing like the Luca Dodd's trade and I'm like, yo,

Okay, we got it. Luca got traded first. Like, nothing else matters in this era. And I can just, like, focus on what needs to be done for this organization. Now, before this D.R. and Fox trade, I was so heavily anticipating on, like, okay, like, maybe we need to start these conversations involving the Spurs. Obviously, that happened. Now those, like, there's a nail on a conference of that conversation. And I'm just focused on how can we, like, save this team from being complete, utter embarrassment.

And how can you guys lagged? out. Chad, they lagged out mid-rants. Let me get them back in. Okay, show on stream. This motherfucker just kicked this out. Yeah, so we can talk about the goddamn. You were saying too many goddamn words about the Atlanta Hawks.

I wasn't trying to hear it. Yeah, you wanted to, hey, that bit he transitioned to the goddamn Lakers and Luca Dodgers again. But if I was to, if I was Landry, fills in that for an office, I would want to make this move happen so we can save ourselves and save the league from having these spurs run shit for the next 10 years and gifting them another lottery pick. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Uh, I would like it. I think, I think we've been waiting and like the Hawks tried to do this obviously with Dejante, but like you, you want

to have more guys who can do stuff with the ball outside of just trade. And having, having Brandon Ingram there would give their offense a little bit more juice and it would be fine and I think it would help you Yeah and it would help

like obviously like Trey is going to play better than what he has for the entirety of this year moving forward I think like and we've talked about how he's kind of like

every of the year in terms of his consistency but if you get like a good Trey Young season and a good Brandon Ingram season you you there's a floor of it like there's something there and you can you can definitely work with that so i'm i don't hate it i also just want to see brandon ingram outside of at outside of

new orleans so anywhere that you put him i will probably talk myself into it and be like yeah it's good it'll work yeah you know i know i know i like to fit a lot i think ingram is an underrated passer his defense has been good at times last year specifically when they had that top 10 defense without having any rem protection i thought he was impressive to defensively but that's been real up and down throughout his career so he's not somebody you can like for sure count on to be a great defensive player needs good infrastructure needs good talent around him he's good coaching on top of everything quinstiner has not shown me like amazing defensive principles as a coach he hasn't really like the results have it's on

there yeah so bear merchant even yeah literally but but offensively I like to fit a lot I think you could sell high on d'andre hunter get a bogey's contract out of there that they're clearly trying to move it could low key just be like those two from money and then some light assets. Maybe you give him Kobe Buffkin, who I don't give a shit about personally. Maybe you do Mo and then like some light picks. I would like that a lot. Yeah, I would 100% do this. I love DeAndre Hunter, but there's only so much that we don't have infrastructure to actually like do real things with him. And bringing in Brennan Ingram would also give us like low key Jalen Johnson insurance because I have over the last two years of

seeing his stardom and seeing how he's like emerged. It's like such a really good. a goddamn good player. I have no trust in his health, not at all. Yeah, those shoulders are vital. Yeah, exactly. Like, going back, dating from last year to this year and seeing how earlier this year, even, like, he's just been consistently in and out of the lineup.

Like, this team is not meant to, not built to go through hella injuries or else we're, like, railing on the Garrison Matthews of the world. The Keonté Wallace's of the world, bro. Like, it's not a pretty side-in-out-year-remont standing. new tweet from the athletic this might be from the same report but it's a new packaging of it for Twitter as the warriors continue their pursuit of Kevin Durant two players of interest have emerged from the sons draymond green who has an established relationship with owner matt ispia

both michigan state guys of course that's what it is they're cool draymond green is getting outside of basketball and getting into the business stuff we know that Matt ishbio went to the same college and is deeply ingrained in that that makes a lot of sense and also jonathan Kaminga is somebody that the Sons are interested in. Hey, wait, tell me, tell me, tell me, so we're all, like, scrolling our phones because it feels like something's about to happen. Moj's tweeted, Moj's tweeted out, oh, gee, what's going on?

What's happening? I got sources. Drew Hanlon tweeted buckle up with an exploiting head emoji. Would you like to, would you like to report something here? Live on air? cooking. I can't say too much. I can't say too much. I've been trusted on like real like Nico Harris type timing to not say too much, but just buckle up, fellas. I have one question to that. What the fuck are you talking about?

Only time can tell. Why did he tweet OMG? I don't understand what's being said right now. The joke is lost on me. It's just so funny seeing it. The most funny seeing it's just so funny seeing it the most random NBA accounts type, like, oh my God, Johan the same, like, wait or buckle up or whatever.

I think Pierre said some shit, like, he thought something there, like he, like knew something that was going on and shit. So, why can't I have fun too? So why can I cap?

Everybody's cap and why to call it can I? Yeah, man, I always want to stay on stream just in case something crazy happens. But I don't know, man. Dude, these rumors just keep on flying

literally as we're streaming. Like, Yeah, I'm actually, the Lonzo Balls, like, apparently Minnesota to Timberwolves have real interest in Lonzo Ball, which should be like a match made in fucking heaven for some like Anthony Edwards. Again, health, there are real health concerns and issues with Lonzo Ball, but you have Rob Billingham back there who's just continuously developing right in front of our eyes and looking like a real player who this team could use. But in the meantime, like having someone like Lonzo who's just low usage, but also like represents in every single way what this team needs when it comes to a shoe. the defense, the passing, the connectivity that he could, like, help conceal with Anthony with Anthony Edwards, is this what he needs, bro? What this team needs.

True. Well, sounds like that's the end of the stream, y'all. We'll see if something happens. Things are continue to get crazy. Hopefully, Kevin Durant is traded by the end of tonight. And when we get to this episode on Friday and we grade every trade, hopefully you can see Kevin Durant in that thumbnail. Hopefully I can click bait you with Kevin Durant.

and I'll put F or something on there just to make you click the video but really we're gonna say it's a good trade we'll see you though you hate to see it bro you hate to see it we'll see y'all