The Deep 3 Podcast - Predicting The Winner Of Every NBA Playoff Series! | TD3 Live

Episode Date: April 16, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 That one is not good. Yeah, shut up. Okay. We are live. So it better be on time. We were 35 seconds early. How about that? How about that?
Starting point is 00:00:11 Still on my side, it says we're still a little bit early. Oh, my goodness, bro. We're a real eater's at. First comment I see is why is Isaac built like K-O? Do you all know who that is? I do not. I'm about to know. Who is that?
Starting point is 00:00:25 C-A-S-E-O-H. Go ahead and look it up. No, this might be you. This might be you. Oh, no, that's great. Go ahead, my treadmill. Everybody spamming. I see Lakers' first round exit.
Starting point is 00:00:48 Y'all, I spam in the chat up already. My Taco Man, Isaac, great. I'd love to see that. Perfect. It was 8 p.m. And this is the first thing that you want to greet us with. We ain't seeing y'all like five days, bro. What is going on?
Starting point is 00:01:06 Never let everybody get in here? We got a few hundred of you guys already in here this fast. Let's go. Just the past number of this year. Oh, my goodness. Someone said no more Webby. Yeah, it sucks. Apparently we're sunshine to everybody.
Starting point is 00:01:21 Love to see that. There you go, man. As you guys see by the title, if you hear early, today we're doing our official playoff predictions episode. You know, we're going to do, talk about the playing tournament, the first one matches that will come after that. And I think after that we're going to kind of do like a pseudo bracket and we're going to predict the entire playoffs up until who we think wins the championship. Should be fun.
Starting point is 00:01:43 Let's go. Let's go. I'm ready to, I'm ready to get this off. Yeah. Right off rip. J.R. 37 tip $10. He said, hey, gentle bros. I haven't done you for a bit, nor will I be able to for a while, but I'll be back sometime. The grind is real, but I still need me my crayons. So keep up the good work. Listen, we appreciate you, J.R.M. No obligation. Anytime you donate, but we appreciate it. We appreciate you running towards the grind.
Starting point is 00:02:05 You know what I'm saying? I agree. We love seeing that. A lot of these crown leaders in the chat run away from it, not you. And you can't be crown deficient over here, bro. Go ahead and do what needs to be done to Macy or fucking load it up.
Starting point is 00:02:21 Yeah, man. People say people spamming Luca MVP. Don't get your hopes of, man. We're going to talk about that. We're going to talk about that. Yeah, we're talking about that. lot. So, you know, as always, if you guys aren't new to these streams, we're going to get to the main topic of the episode. We're going to get to Donovan's debate of the day, which
Starting point is 00:02:35 is a new recurring segment. That should be fun. But first, we're going to do our normal thing. We're going to go to the biggest news stories of the week. And I think the biggest thing to talk about is what just broke right before we started streaming. Team USA has chosen 11 of their 12-man roster, which includes LeBron James, Steph Curry, Kevin Durant, Joe and Bede, noted American. Oh my God. Jason Tatum, Devin Booker, Drew Holliday, Anthony Davis, Anthony Edwards, Bam out of bio, and Tyre's Halliburton. How do y'all feel? Wow, bro.
Starting point is 00:03:05 You see, one B bottom, bro, France's team is going to be fucking crazy. All teams are around the entire association over there at Fibba is going to be insane. So they have to pick the best as the best. This is impressive. I like this. They're coming out to try this year, for real. They definitely want to win this year. Oh, we got these two guys liked out.
Starting point is 00:03:23 I'll bring them back in. But yeah, like they said, France is going to be ridiculous with women. Mniamma and Gobert, even though France is going to be ridiculous, I don't know if they can really compete with this team because this is like the NBA All-Sart team is pretty ridiculous. We're back. These are just the best American players in the NBA, bro. This is what the NBA looked like literally like seven years ago. Someone said they snubbed you in there, facts.
Starting point is 00:03:48 Do you have to have team players on every single, on every single team USA team? And the world better be ready because we're coming back. We're getting the goal. all right the avenges are here understand what's going on and bro they got joel and b like that's that's not right that just makes no sense there's no reason why joel and b should be on team usa it's hilarious and like there's no way to talk about it without being all like america and acting all crazy about it but like yeah come on it's like it's free agency it's free agency for the um it's hilarious it shouldn't happen i don't know i mean people have always done it right
Starting point is 00:04:23 Hakeem played for Team USA at one point It's not Their rules are lenient So like whatever It's nothing new But it's a lot more interesting I think to see these stars Play for their home country
Starting point is 00:04:34 And like put the team on their backs Like we see Luca With a bunch of guys We never heard of I find that a lot more Compelling than just Everybody coming to Team USA I get that
Starting point is 00:04:44 You tell me you tell me Everybody being buddy buddy And you want to see real competition You know yes In the Olympics yes Fuck me and buddy buddy With everyone It's about your country bro
Starting point is 00:04:53 Let's say it's America Fauxillationism People are spending Where is Kyrie? He's no Drew Holiday That man will never play for team USA And it's not about it It's not about an invite
Starting point is 00:05:08 I carry Irving would never wear USA Oh, you're right Again I think you're probably right I don't think Kyrie do it He's not going to do that You know Kyrie Oh
Starting point is 00:05:17 Oh yeah never mind I know Kyrie Exactly Exactly he's not about that he's right he was trying where Jaylon Brunson
Starting point is 00:05:30 yeah so this is 11 out of the 12-man roster so there's one spot left people are standing where's Jaylon Brunson where's Kyrie one spot left who would you guys give it to if it was up to you to decide I would give this to Jalen Brown
Starting point is 00:05:42 I don't think that you can go with another with another guard you already have Steph you already have Drew Holiday and you already have Tyrese in terms of point guards, LeBron, who, even though that's going to be older, like, he's still going to have the ball in his hands. Jaylen Brunson needs the ball in his hands.
Starting point is 00:06:03 And we saw kind of what it looked like this past off season or this past, like, team USA run, where you kind of thought that Jayneau Brunce was going to get it going. And then Tyreys Halliburton and Anthony Edwards kind of were the ones is. Like, now, like, he worked this way. So I think you just need another person who can play off ball, play some defense, let everybody else do their thing. and potentially have a game when they go crazy and have like 25 and a quarter or something like that
Starting point is 00:06:27 Jalen Brown fits that mold perfectly Yeah, someone said we need Kauai My guy, if you think Kauai is playing anything outside of an NBA regulation game, you're out of your mind Speaking of that, we can move on to the next topic Quay Leonard reportedly has a lot of swelling in his knee Per Chris Roussard I was in contact with someone in the know
Starting point is 00:06:43 And they said they are concerned Are you guys concerned about Kaui Leonard's knee? I'm always concerned Perpetually yeah hold on hold those thoughts philly loving ginger just donated a hundred dollars shout out philly we appreciate you
Starting point is 00:06:57 common donator one hundred dollars this man is loaded and shout out sehil for donating three dollars and mr rall sharp for donating one dollar shout to all three of you guys oh my goodness wow that is insane
Starting point is 00:07:10 appreciate we have the most breaded chat ever i love it i love seeing this thank you guys back to quiet leonard listen we're always concerned about this happening and just like last year he looks pretty healthy throughout the whole season based it to the end
Starting point is 00:07:23 we're thinking they're dangerous he plays two games in the playoffs last year looks like the Terminator and then misses the rest of the season we're not at that point yet but it's not the best sign in the world to see there's already an injury dude when someone
Starting point is 00:07:35 some reporter a couple weeks ago I think it was last week just actually some reporter asked to Ty Lou about the status of CoI Leonard or whether or not he was going to be apparent in the first round of the playoffs and he gave the most obscure pissed off and just like loki condescending answer ever
Starting point is 00:07:56 and this just that only hearing this it tells me bro their season might be cooked all for no reason not all for no reason but the seasons cook bro i don't i don't know if they have a chance after hearing this shit yeah no yeah if he's cook is dramatic if kawai doesn't play they're getting beat him five for sure oh yeah if he if he doesn't play we'll see i There's still, we don't know for sure he won't play Or we don't even know if it's more likely than not But again, not a good sign And we'll get to the predictions either way
Starting point is 00:08:28 Because I don't know, do you guys even like Are you even going to favor the clippers in the series? It's hard I'm going back and forth Yeah Yeah It's a really different basketball teams, row That's not my question
Starting point is 00:08:43 What's the question? I said are you guys in a favor them in the series. But again, we'll wait until we get to the predictions part to let you guys decide. Back and forth. Okay. Next thing, the NBA, you know, they have their MVP ladder from NBA.com. I think it's a collection of writers that they employ to help decide it. They've updated it. And for some reason, as the season ended, they put Shea back above Luca Doncha for number two. How do you guys feel about that? It's probably engagement bait. We all know Lucas number two, but what's your thoughts? Biggest bunch of baloney ever, bro. I was
Starting point is 00:09:18 irritated as hell, seeing it, and then looking out all the replies also, you know, confirm my feeling of the irritation. It doesn't make any sense. But seeing Yokic hold up at number one, which is, you know, the real piece of information here, it is interesting to see. I think it makes more sense that Shea has jumped up to two rather than, rather than Yokic staying, like staying at one this in. higher time. Like, I'm surprised the fact that Luca never got the one spot at all this
Starting point is 00:09:55 entire season, especially like how much Shea has moved up and down, how much Luca's moved up and down, Tatum. Like, Luca had a, there was a week where he was going crazy. He was going 35, 37, and he moved down in the rankings. It's crazy. There's always been movement in this, in this, like, ladder. And for Yokes to just be kind of consistently won, that was kind of the most interesting part of it. But I don't hate if you have Shea at 2. He's 36 and 6 on the 1 seed in the Western Conference
Starting point is 00:10:25 where the 5 seed has on 50 wins. So it's amazing what they've done. I guess the 1 seed is really what carries Shay to 2% people. And I respect you. Listen, I understand I wanted to give it to the 1 seed. I'm not that concerned about the 1 seed when they all
Starting point is 00:10:41 are within like half one game of each other between 1 and 3. That isn't like, somebody has to win it. So I just get the 1C so that's impressive but like i'm not giving you more credit for having the one versus the three when there's literally a one game difference it's not that important to me yep and for apparently we have crown eaters run running to the office over there it's important in them it's important for the lord it's important for the goddamn storyline and all that shit oh my god the youngest fucking first seat since i don't know 21 2012 the original version
Starting point is 00:11:09 ok c thunder the storyline is immacally and i i get it and i understand but that doesn't make it right yeah either way we'll see who went who finish is number two and three, but seems pretty locked in stone that Nicole Yokich is going to be the MVP this year. All the straw poles that are being ran with voters make it pretty apparent, I think. He's on an all-time run.
Starting point is 00:11:29 Crazy. All-time peak. We'll talk about that after the playoffs if he does another, has another run like last year. Lots of conversations are soon to be had about Nicole the Okich's prime. But in the meantime, another piece of news, Drew Holliday has agreed to a four-year extension worth $135 million of the Celtics. This basically
Starting point is 00:11:45 he basically opposite of the contract he had for next year to play our option and he signs an extension that gives him long-term money but helps the Celtics pay him less in the near term so their luxury tax bill comes down. Do you think this is smart for the Celtics to commit this to have a long-term money to Drew Holiday
Starting point is 00:12:00 who will be 37 when the contract ends? I was about to say any like 33 or 34 or something like that. Damn. With this type of play, I think he'll be able to last and sustain throughout the entire durability of the contract but that's a lot of money, bro.
Starting point is 00:12:17 commit to someone like him that's a lot of money no that's okay it's fine i i don't i don't think it's that bad just because you know like they've already shown that they're committed to this entire core kp uh drew kp like they're they're getting their money derrick white is next they have a like two year window like this year next year to go out and get a championship if it doesn't happen even if it doesn't happen this year something might be in the works and so to go all in make sure that you have the most talented starting five a starting five that has helped your team be one of you know statistically one of the best teams in NBA history you have you have to go ahead and do it and just pay the bill and this is what you're supposed to do when you have 64 wins go on
Starting point is 00:13:08 so you do it even though before you see any results I mean they they got 64 wins yeah I think that's results in some right And it helps a luxury tax bill for next season, so it saves them some money. And they're going to be the most expensive team in the NBA. So if you're willing to pay them and willing to keep the team together, all the savings they can get is important for them, I guess. So you're not going to, there's no scenario. Even if he has a bad showing, shoots poorly like he has in the past,
Starting point is 00:13:34 you're not going to get rid of them after what they've done this regular season anyways. Exactly. And if the Celtics came out and they traded for Drew Holiday and they didn't give him an extension to really, really, solidify his place on that team or they made that relationship weird then you would look at them and say two things one why would you trade all those assets to go get somebody that you're not that invested in in the first place and then two you guys are not serious about winning championships because obviously you've seen all the success that you guys have this year and you're letting
Starting point is 00:14:06 money get in the way when the person writing the check is a billionaire and you and you know that one playoff run you can make that you can make that money back like you're going to you're going to be fine you're going to be okay so like it's just cheap if you don't you know extend the money to drew yeah that's true i can i can definitely see the ration of that me personally i had to rather see like i want to see the proof in the pudding and see how he does in the playoffs alongside all the other guys and of course it's very fair to imagine that drew holiday is going to ball his ass out as usual and plays are in the most effective way possible alongside all these other stars but I still want to see it.
Starting point is 00:14:47 Yeah. Because what if he gives you a horrendous master class, like a horrendous asterclass and just disappears offensively? Then what? Then what? He's like their fifth option. What do you do? His defense is still going to be important?
Starting point is 00:14:58 Like, it shouldn't be a huge deal of Drew Holley. He averages 12 points a game. Like an afterclass from him is he average a seven points a game. Like that doesn't really move the needle like that, you know? It won't be a, it won't be the reason they lose. And if it comes down to Drew Holiday, like Drew Holiday, like Drew Holiday on the Bucks, it's a problem that he was playing as bad as he was because he was. oftentimes the second option offensively whenever Chris Middleton was out.
Starting point is 00:15:20 Like Isaac said, he's the fifth option. If it comes down to, oh, Drew Holiday was selling, and now we didn't win a championship, I have to go through Tatum, Brown, White, and Porzingis, and look at all four of them and say, what were y'all doing, right? And for Tatum, now it's your time. And we can talk about this a little bit later, but now is your time. You had all the nasty propaganda in January trying to get you to the MVP. you really want to make your money
Starting point is 00:15:46 you really want to make legacy you want to talk all that legacy talk right now is the time to do it it shouldn't matter about Drew Holiday and even for the next four years Drew Holiday can average nine points a game this is a good time right next thing we got
Starting point is 00:15:58 Gadget donated $10 he said opinions on Cleveland throwing away their shame trying to duck Miami and Philly by throwing their game against Charlotte only to lock themselves into a round two Boston matchup if they even beat Orlando this is the next thing I want to talk about because they lost on purpose
Starting point is 00:16:12 against the Charlotte Horns on the last day of the season to make their matchup be whatever they want, right, and drop out of the second seed. Now they're the three seed and a lot of opinions about this. You know, we've always seen teams
Starting point is 00:16:26 kind of manipulate the standings get the match what they want in the first round when they're able to. But this was particularly egregious because they played the game and then pulled their starters in the second half in a very clear effort to lose on purpose. It's very, uh, just...
Starting point is 00:16:42 Shameless. Say it. Sameless, yeah, I guess that's the word. we all see what they're doing bro we all see what they're doing they're having a twerk off ass versus ass against charlotte bro over the weekend it was ridiculous seeing that it's like it comes with a lot of risk and a lot of a lot of potential backlash you already deserve it you know they're already getting in right now but if they lose against a team like the Orlando magic you know and if you're an Atlanta magic player you're gonna feel some type of
Starting point is 00:17:13 That's going to give you a lot of extra juice. And I would say a series like this can genuinely go either way. Yeah, it's definitely going to be close. And again, I understand people have always wanted to duck certain competition. It's not something new. But don't know how do you feel. I'm sure you're the most opinion on us about this and the method in which they went about it. Two questions for you.
Starting point is 00:17:33 Do you mind manipulating the standings? And if you do or don't, just the way they did it midgame affected for you? One, yes, I do. You know the way You know me You know the way that I've seen your movies Exactly You go out and you play
Starting point is 00:17:50 And you try to win every single game And because especially like even though this It's the last game in the season There's 15 games on everybody's playing at the same time For you to go ahead and do that It's disgraceful Like it is And on the other side
Starting point is 00:18:04 And we're going to talk about You want to talk about greatness You want to talk about what basketball is supposed to be like the New York Knicks had an opportunity to pull their guys at the start of overtime because everything was done. Dante Divencino plays 53 minutes last night or yesterday, right? Tom Thibino said, we're going for 50 wins because this means something to us and that is real basketball.
Starting point is 00:18:27 That's real culture. And you talk about the Cleveland Cavaliers. That's why, and I'm going to give away my pick, but that's why they're about to get first rounded. That's why Donovan Mitchell is going to be partying it up in Miami next year. because everything is getting torn down. That's why J.B. Biggersap is going to be out of a job because they're out here doing stuff like this, right?
Starting point is 00:18:47 It's shameless. It's disgraceful. You play because you're scared. You are, you are grown men in the NBA, the best of the best, and you are scared of other people. I hope you get swept in three. I really do. I really do.
Starting point is 00:19:04 I'm rooting against them. It's normal to see people, like, scared. But doing it, in such a strategic way, like ripping all your starters, top to bottom, out of the second half, don't even let them start, that is really disgusting right there. If we're going to do it at least like be real and just like let all the rookies get burned from the top of the game, you know what I'm saying? Like we see this normally on a day-to-day basis around game 81, game 82.
Starting point is 00:19:29 We see the wackiest shit. But to just do it like this, you leave a sour taste of my mouth. Yeah. Very crazy. Yeah. We'll see how it plays out in their favor. You're messing with a lot of karma, and it's very much... If you fail, it's going to look hilarious, and you're going to fucking hear about it.
Starting point is 00:19:47 I think if they lose in the first round, it's going to be disastrous for organization. Like Donovan said, coach is out of there. GM might be out of there. Some player, combination of players, is going to be out of there. A lot of pressures have been put on the nut due to this. I'll say that. I agree. Next story.
Starting point is 00:20:02 Kevin Durant, notably, stay pretty healthy this year after being crazy injured over recent years. And he was asked about it today. He said the way he was able to stay healthy is staying away from floppers and crash dummies who like to throw their bodies in the lines to injure people or, I should say, without much caution for injuring people. And he made sure not to guard them this year.
Starting point is 00:20:21 Who do you think of those players he avoided? And why is it Draymond Green and Josh Hart? Floppers and crash dummies, bro. That's hilarious. That's Pat Bev. Pat Bev, Josh Hart, Draymond, Bobby Jalen Suggs, probably, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:20:38 Marcus Smart, he was out of the year for most of the year. Thank God for everybody's knees. Marcus Smart's ass would have been avoided. Throwing the entire Knicks roster, too. Talk about flops and cracks dummies. They will die for anything. The whole Knicks roster for sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:54 Let's play with passion. That's play a lot. Good for them. That is hilarious, bro. Genuinely speaking. I hate that for me. I hate that for me. speaking katie's uh his longevity
Starting point is 00:21:10 it sucks because like lebron always gets all the shine and that's what's going to be but his longevity is genuine pressing too because of the injuries that he's went through over the fourth of this career turn your goddamn achilles and being arguably a better just as the same level or even a better version of you were prior to that it's ridiculous bro yeah good for katy having a healthy season uh y'all have 279 likes in the stream. There's 1,200 of you in here right now. Span those likes for us. Help us to get the stream in front of more people.
Starting point is 00:21:39 And we're going to keep going. Next thing, very irrelevant, but it's hilarious because it's a talking point. Other people will say. How do you guys feel about Kevin Hart on his ESPN2 broadcast saying they cannot give Nicole Yocachian and more MVP's. It's not good for the NBA. How do you feel about
Starting point is 00:21:55 this idea? What the hell? My TV time about some goddamn basketball. I just know about goddamn basketball. What the hell? The only time I want to team on my TV is if it's like all-star celebrity weekend types it oh my god Adam silver says he's tired of the way the NBA is being talked about boom under his timing he lets the NBA his NBA ESPN relationship put this on TV bro this is gross yeah man well okay I don't give a shit about Kevin ours to say so this
Starting point is 00:22:26 isn't the point but there's a lot of talk about Nicole Yokinj being like a media favorite and getting a lot of special treatment and stuff like this it's a talking point probably mostly of people who are jealous their player isn't getting MVP's but how do you feel with this general sentiment that you see a lot on like Twitter and stuff like that you just got look up you have to realize what's happening you need to start living in reality and understand that like yogic is yogic on a bad night can have a demoness a bonus stat line but be impactful like he can he can actually do both. Whereas some people might come out
Starting point is 00:23:02 and they get numbers but it doesn't really change the game or you can change the game but somehow your numbers don't do that. Yokic is the best of both worlds and everybody talks about the Nuggets like there's some super team. That's because of him. Like you would not think about Eric Gordon the same way
Starting point is 00:23:18 if he wasn't playing next to Yokic. Everybody would hate if Michael Porter Jr. was in Orlando instead of Denver, he would get called 6-10 Cam Thomas. People would hate on him so much. But it doesn't happen because
Starting point is 00:23:34 Yok is carrying him, not carrying him, but Yolkits is leading them to the finals. Realize, realize, this is greatness that we're watching. Yeah, man. Nasty narratives, but like I said, everybody's jealous that their favorite player isn't the one winning the MVP, so
Starting point is 00:23:50 I guess it comes to the territory. Disgusting work. Next thing up, you know, that's the main news stories I want to talk about. we should talk about what the title of the episode is let's talk about these NBA playoffs first things first
Starting point is 00:24:05 we got to talk about these playing games they start on Tuesday and we have the full bracket in front of us as you guys know the first playing games will be played by the 7 and 8 seed this coming Tuesday Pelicans versus Lakers and 76ers versus Heat
Starting point is 00:24:17 which conference everyone started the West of course yeah let's start with the West okay what do you guys think about Pelicans versus Lakers what is your prediction who was winning this no no no no no we're going to start with you
Starting point is 00:24:30 what do you think as the resident Lakers fan right Lakers by fucking 20 they're beating the shit out of the pelicans LeBron James is Zion Williams 's kryptonite that motherfucker looks like the Nassasantinacoupa with LeBron guarding him
Starting point is 00:24:43 he's not faster than him he's not stronger than him he has to show middies against them which he cannot make clanks him off the backboard if the Lakers win by less than 10 I'll be disappointed I love it i i i love this yeah it's i because i also agree with you though like if they there's no situation where they should lose this game or where it should come down to the wire they should they should win this by several possessions yeah i don't yeah i don't think they have anything for
Starting point is 00:25:15 them yeah i'm mostly joking about the level of which it should blow out but i think the lakers fully had the pelicans number we obviously saw it in the season tournament after that the pelicans went on a run to look very good zion looked great for the last 30 games the season I was saying he Loki is an All-N-B-A case. Then he comes to the last game of the season when both teams are playing for essential playoff seating and they get smacked in the same exact fashion with pretty much the same exact methods.
Starting point is 00:25:38 They put LeBron James on Zion with Anthony Davis lurking and you literally see Zion be completely eliminated from his game. Like I said, he's taking middies, uncomfortable middies. Like this is not his game at all. And sure, they're due for some positive regression. Ingram was his first game back. Maybe he'll look better.
Starting point is 00:25:55 It's hard to beat the same team twice in a row. But I find very little reason to optimistic that the Pelicans are going to be able to solve the matchup issues that Lakers bring them. It is a matched-up nightmare, bro. What LeBron James has been doing to Zion, and of course, like, having AD there scares everyone right behind him as well. He just, like, zapped Zion out of all of his superpowers, neutralized his ass, froze his ass, bro. And seeing Zion just being completely taken out of his game and element is also a, a reflection of the counters that
Starting point is 00:26:31 New Warren's has at the five spot, which is like Larry Nancy Jr. They don't have any counters basically. Yeah, that's not a great option. They're like, exactly. They're very limited in terms of what they can do. And this is like the worst. Man, imagine being a New
Starting point is 00:26:47 Warren's Pelkins, man. You're bawling out, you're born your goddamn ass out. Zahn playing 60 plus games or whatever the case may be. You know, Herb Jones is Herb Jones. It's going to make it all defense team. And you're boom. Reward to face the Los Angeles, Lakers, and LeBron James, and AD. Be sick to your stomach, and they're sadly going to lose this paying game, bro. It's not great. It's not great.
Starting point is 00:27:05 They had a good season, and it's like, to what avail? Like, you've got to be scared to the team a little bit. People are asking in the comments if I think they should lose the game on purpose to duck the nuggets in the first round. I mean, the logic checks out, but no. No team is serious to go out there and lose a playing game on purpose, and purposely put themselves in a one game do or die with their season on the line against maybe Steph Curry.
Starting point is 00:27:24 It would be absolutely ridiculous and embarrassing to lose the game. on purpose no way if they lose won't they just end up facing the one seed right not stuck curry no if they have to go to play the second game in the playing yeah gotcha okay oh yeah yeah gotcha yeah oh you just unveiled your second playing pickman oh no fucking shit i think the warriors are gonna beat the king surprise surprise i don't know if i got unveils that's not much of an unveiling the recent donations okay before we move on mr roll shark tip ten dollars he said i pray most hawks beat my bulls tired this mid-ass team thinking they can compete i think we all share
Starting point is 00:28:01 the same sentiment genuinely speaking this is the worst playing in game in playing history but or it will be at least no one cares actually not i lied it's not going to be the worst playing game the hawks played the horn a couple years ago and the horns got their backs blown out generally brother i'm right with you i want you guys to win montesier donated four dollars said hey guys big fans this last summer y'all get me something entertained to watch whenever i'm eating keep with a great work and the maps are winning the chip i don't know what the last but thank you. Keep eating, bro.
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Starting point is 00:28:44 Shout to Elena, man. So do you all agree that the Lakers are probably going to win this first matchup against the Pelicans? Yes, I do agree. Okay. If that's the case, sticking with the West,
Starting point is 00:28:54 Kings versus Warriors. You know, we saw this team, this was the playoff matchup last year was a great series went to was a six or seven it was seven right seven one to seven de erin fox dealt with a hand injury halfway through and demontes sabon has had some lagging injuries that slowed them down a little bit but outside of that we saw draymond completely shut down their offensive approach and step curry was step curry to win the series do you see any different outcome this year with the differences the teams have uh nope that beam is not getting lit it's not
Starting point is 00:29:22 them boys are going home they are going home they are not winning they're not winning this wait so donovan you're telling me that gary peyton being out for this game still doesn't move you at all they still the king still don't have a chance they don't have a chance no wow well can you say Gary payton's out listen malik monk is out and Kevin herger's out exactly we've talked about the past few weeks they have no depth there I would know what's the opposite of peeking at the right time shitting at the wrong time yeah falling apart yeah falling They are doing the opposite of Peking when it matters most, completely falling apart. They just torpedoed down the standing, so they've had a rough couple weeks.
Starting point is 00:30:02 And the Warriors have opposite of that, I think. I think they've been pretty good for a while now. They... You know one of the best teams in the league. Let's talk about it. Top five. You're so annoying with this. You've been on the side chain for two weeks.
Starting point is 00:30:12 You love them. Am I lying or what? No, you're right. One of the best teams in the league is a little rich from my love. I know where you're coming from. It's the truth, bro. Okay, so you think they're going to blow up the game? The Warriors seen that we've seen initially, and considering that, Sacramento King's got worse.
Starting point is 00:30:28 The Warriors have an actual center now, and Clay Thompson has resurrected somewhat. They're going to win this one game pretty handedly. Yeah. We know what Dremont can do to Sabonis. He's the kryptonite for his game. Someone's like Kevin Hurd has been useless this entire season, why you're acting like he's a game changer? It's not about Kevin Herder. It's just when you have the lack of bodies, like the people you get to elevate above them.
Starting point is 00:30:51 if Kevin Hurder was useless, what do you think about the guys that are playing behind him? You know, like, it's just can't be good for them. Yeah, the depth's really hurt, bro. The depth's really fucking hurt. And that was a huge strength for the Sacramento Kings the entirety of the last year, just having multiple dudes who can do similar
Starting point is 00:31:07 things and, like, just be really explosive pieces, and just to not have pieces like Kevin Herder, who wasn't exposed in the playoffs last year and has been eh for like 75% of the season. His presence still matters. That's it. And to not have him there alongside Malik Monk what choice even more is like, damn, bro.
Starting point is 00:31:23 Also, if you think, real quick, if you think that the Warriors are going to let Harrison Barnes of all people beat them out of the playoffs, it's not happening. Bro. It is not happening. Harrison Barnes is the most wash player I've ever fucking seen. I follow a Kingspan on TikTok.
Starting point is 00:31:42 His name is escaping me. And he was saying that Harrison Barnes is the worst starter in the NBA. People don't realize it. You can look at his numbers. That man is doing cardio. he is so unimpactful in every fathes of the game right now is hilarious i don't know what they got to do to replace him but something has to be their next season that's not harrison barns he's actually kind of been hooper these last like three games
Starting point is 00:32:02 really is that's really it's actually not it's like 22 12 17 just like 22 12 17 just like regular harrison barn stuff good games yeah oh if one of them he had 42 41 minutes the 12 point game it's three for 10 from the field for like 9 of 15 5 of 8 He's kind of arguing himself. Picking up the right time. Never mind. Maybe Harrison Barnes is coming alive, come for playoff time.
Starting point is 00:32:26 He's here to steal the playing tournaments. I guess. If you ever depend on Harrison Barnes to do anything around the court row, your hopes are doomed and they have been doomed for years. Okay, so if we assume the Lakers win and they secure the seven seed to play the nuggets, that means the Pelicans will fall to the eight seed and play the Warriors. How do you see a Pelicans versus Warriors playing game going? Because the Pelicans have been a better team for the majority of the year,
Starting point is 00:32:49 but anything can happen in a one game, series. So how do you feel about those matchups? That's tough. It's one game, bro. Will Draymond be able to figure out and somewhat contain Zion? Do they have the back line to do that type of damage?
Starting point is 00:33:06 I don't know, man. Okay, so Yonis Valchunis has been benched frequently for different matchups. You've got to assume the Warriors is a matcher that'll make him bench pretty quickly, right? Why can he play? Yes. So it'll be a lot of Larry Nance and Zion Williamson front courts.
Starting point is 00:33:26 I feel like, I don't know, I'll pull up Zion stats against the Warriors this year. I can't imagine he does well against Raymond, but maybe I'll be proven wrong. And if he does, he does do well in the regular season, you know, playoffs are a different beast when you're really game planning for it. I can only assume Ramon can do similar things that a LeBron James can do against him. Yeah, but also, it's hard talking about it because LeBron has AD in his backline and that changes so much as well. Trace is good, but he didn't even know fucking AD, of course. I'm surprised you're saying that. You love Trace is that guy.
Starting point is 00:33:59 I love this. It's just going to be a hill forever. You're just a Trace guy. Exactly. And I'm going to be in right as hell too. So Zion Williamson in three games versus the Warriors this year is averaging averaging 21 points, four rebounds, and four assists. I don't remember when Drema was suspended.
Starting point is 00:34:15 These games were very split apart, end of October, beginning of January, and in February, as of recently. one of those games I think Dremont wasn't there for I imagine because he missed a lot of time but you know 19 points 19 points and 26 points
Starting point is 00:34:28 is most recent game against them no they don't lock him down by any means listen you want to like look at Zion and look at the Pelicans and kind of give them credit
Starting point is 00:34:41 for how they've been able to to play especially like towards the second half of the season but if we're going to sit here and say that we don't trust Steph Curry and draymond green more in a one game scenario than the new Orleans pelicans then we're aligned to ourselves so I'm going to take so like we can
Starting point is 00:34:58 talk and be like oh like this match up and what is larry nance going to do like nobody cares about larry nance this is a step curry production the warriors should win are probably going to be favored to win and I'm going to take them I'm going to take them to beat to beat them there is games that they did play the last game that they played that was a game that draymond scored like zero points he put the first double double with no points in NBA history. Crazy shit. And if I remember correctly, the Pelicans were like up by a cool 20 or whatever, but that lead got decimated in like classic warriors fashion.
Starting point is 00:35:33 You know, they came back in the fourth quarter and they dropped like 35 or 40 in our fucking head. Still lost, of course. But the lead was decimated. So with that being said, I might lean towards, I might have to lean towards the pelicans is because the athleticism is on is just genuinely so hard to stop and having Trey Murphy there alongside Brandon Ingram will be back as well
Starting point is 00:35:57 I might have to lean towards their way Mm-hmm You don't believe that I'll go to the Pelicans They're going to be at home They're going to be coming off Of two tough losses to the Lakers in a row It's hard to lose three games at home
Starting point is 00:36:07 With your season online When you're the more talented team Is better the entire time You have two games of Brandon Ingum Getting his feet under his belt Looking better We saw it in Spurge's last game Against the Lakers
Starting point is 00:36:16 he was limited in minutes because it was first game back but he made some big shots and clearly injected an element of life into their team that they desperately needed and when we talked about
Starting point is 00:36:26 the power rankings episode I was low in the Pelicans because they didn't have Brandon Ingram a month ago when they had him and they were peaking I was like they might beat the fucking Clippers so I'm hoping that after two games of getting their feet wet
Starting point is 00:36:38 they can look more like that team than they did early than they did this last game and I'm gonna go with the team that I think has been better all season I'm gonna go with the Pelicans lame I'm going to have cur wow yeah if i want to go i want to go the the warriors for sure but i just don't think they have enough backline defense to help out draymond so i want to leave the i only
Starting point is 00:37:00 okay chat spam up who you things win the series are now spam be the warriors or pelicans i got a feeling who i'm going to see more of given the fan bases but let let me see who you guys think spam it up immediately see warriors for sure listen i get it they're the warriors are the fan favorite nobody's going to want to pick the pelicans you'd much rather I see Steph Curry in a playoff series and you would the pelicans but I have faith in the pelicans still
Starting point is 00:37:21 yeah yeah I agree that's a fair assessment let's go over to the plane it's a pretty good amount of pelicans though okay no let me make a poll you guys see spamming it up because I want to see the chat version
Starting point is 00:37:32 but I'll start a poll too who wins GSW New Orleans this is a very interesting matchup because there's there's legitimate pros for both teams right
Starting point is 00:37:45 Like the Warriors obviously have Steph Curry Kamingas look really good as of late And they have Draymond as a defensive banker But outside of Draymond, like you said Mo They don't have a lot of defensive versatility in that front court Looney's not holding Zion by any means Kaminga's not a particularly good defender
Starting point is 00:38:01 And you have Herb Jones to put on Curry But outside of that there's some prim defenders that he can expose You know, Sej McCollum is not going to lock him down or anything But Trey Murphy, Herb Jones, and Ingram is a lot of length to throw with Steph Curry I feel like his life's going to be very difficult yeah exactly I just don't know if they have enough
Starting point is 00:38:19 versatility to go ahead and do with what the pelicans will do with the paint to them I just don't know 418 votes 50 50 right now this is the closest poll ever you guys are going crazy oh my goodness that's crazy
Starting point is 00:38:33 I love that I'll keep running that's clearly a very interesting matchup so we'll move on to the east and we'll let that poll keep going people keep spamming up what you think let's get that 500 votes I know while they do that Let's read the donations we missed.
Starting point is 00:38:45 Shout out to DQ Sempai for tipping $5. We appreciate you. He said, which teams do you think will make massive changes of the disappoint this season? Let's say disappoint. I think most of them will.
Starting point is 00:38:54 Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. First thing that comes in mind is easy to the Cavs. Yes. Well, we'll get to that. Yeah, well, we'll talk about. You'll get your answer very soon.
Starting point is 00:39:05 Shout out to KX2L for donating $3. He said, what international role players are you excited to see as high-level starters in the Olympics? That's a good question. Bogdan Bogdanovich. Oh, he's a bona fide hooper for sure.
Starting point is 00:39:20 Yeah. Patty Mills always. Patty Mills is a fucking goon international player. Yeah, but he's old. Does he still happen in a tank? I don't know. Yes. Yes, I bet he does.
Starting point is 00:39:29 He does. I bet he does. He will still give Team USA 25 points. Yeah. Oh, my God. Just nasty. Shout out to Adam Scott 04 for tipping $3.73. He said love from Scotland.
Starting point is 00:39:41 Appreciate you. Shout to Scotland, man. Shout to Scotland, there you go. We got 615 votes in the poll. 52% of y'all are going on Golden State Warriors. They edged it out. Shout out the Warriors. They win in T3 fans' hearts.
Starting point is 00:39:56 But honestly, when you account for the fan-based differences, low-key, you give like a 5% padding. I think that kind of means the Pelicans win. No, my God, you're gross. Talking yourself delusion right there, 4K for you, folks. I love it. I do it all the time. What's it called in golf?
Starting point is 00:40:12 you got a handicap whenever you're bad and they give you like a couple strokes up. Yeah, we've got to get the Pelicans like a 5% handicap. All right, going over to the East the playing tournament. First game, we have the Bulls, you know, the 76s versus Heat.
Starting point is 00:40:25 Amazing game, I think. Joel and B. came back from injury and just casually wanted eight game straight and looks pretty much like Joel and B dominating again. They have one of the best lineups in the league whenever him, Maxie and Kelly Uber are sharing the court.
Starting point is 00:40:38 I feel very confident in them. I think you guys do as well. We know what the heat are. come playoff time. Yeah. Who are you favoring in a one-game sample size in Philadelphia?
Starting point is 00:40:47 I'm taking the Miami Heat. What? Really? I am. You just gaslit me. Before the show, you were telling me how you don't believe in the heat and shit.
Starting point is 00:40:54 You were literally telling me that. Now, I don't think that the heat are going to do anything once they get into the playoffs. Okay. But I think that they have one game in them to get to the playoffs. They'll get the seventh seed.
Starting point is 00:41:09 They'll play the Knicks. And, I mean, it doesn't matter. if they played anybody um this man lagged out mid-sentence there you go stick was trash bro the basketball guys was like shut the hell up zap i'm back i'm back and i'm still going back and i'm still going i'm talking i was talking into the void now i'm back talking to you guys i'm here nobody will stop me from talking about joella never lost wow no so okay so i do i do trust the heat though okay okay what makes you not trust the 76ers because you know they look pretty good as of late like what's your big
Starting point is 00:41:45 worry there i know you were talking about what is joll and be going to look like coming back into the play in off of however much time he's missing but you know he's played eight games now decent amount of time yeah he's he's looked he's looked great i just i think like the the last game that the he played against the sixers it was a very close game i think that like duncan robinson had a very poor game shooting the ball granted nick petun also had it um had a bad game zero points donut but i i do think that like i do think that duncan robinson if he's able to to shoot the ball pretty effectively then that kind of opens up everything else and they'll be better off i'm going to bet that he's going to have more than just two points and i'm going to
Starting point is 00:42:26 i'm going to i'm going to i'm going to bet that he's kind of going to be the x-factor in this jimmy had a good game had a great game i think in one game maybe jimmy can summon up everything that everybody has been talking about him for give it give it to the to the 76ers and then then he can get the 70s what you think mo how are you feeling i want to lean towards joel mbid you guys will see later on i believe this might be the year that we finally get a joel embied run don't know if he's going to like when the championship or go to the finals or anything like that or we're going to receive a run and i think this is the year that he you know gets past jimmy bowler i don't know i don't know
Starting point is 00:43:06 don't think that the Miami heat have shown to have it consistently and i don't know i feel like jimmy bowler just felt leaning into just like being super chill about what you do in the regular season and you know trying trying to just turn into a different player in the spur of a moment i don't know how that'll work out in his favor this time around it seems to not be a a super consistent thing like every single year we get the same exact jimmy bowler because that's not the case. You know what I'm saying? It happens, but it doesn't happen every single year. So I think what Joel Embed has to provide and also Tyrese maxi. And also, Isaac, you were twerking for this man like a motherfucker earlier to start off the season. Nick, he is fully back
Starting point is 00:43:52 with a fully healthy John Embed. And to see Joel Embed with the best and look, probably the smartest coach he's ever been with in the NBA playoffs, I think that will change so much for him and make his life's so much easier. Yeah, it's an interesting matchup. I think both teams are at similar levels. I think I'd prefer the Sixers in a seven game series against most teams. But, you know, they got Bamadabio who, you know, listen, as far as Joelle and Beatstoppers go, one of the better options they have, a great defensive player.
Starting point is 00:44:22 The heat are second in the NBA when it comes to shots a lot at the rim, so they really settle out to not let you get there at all. They're only 26 in rim efficiency there, so like if you get there, you can shoot decent against them. But they make it hard to get to the rim. So Maxie, going to have a hard time eating at the rim. Juelan B, obviously gets to the room really well, but we know he kills you in the mid-range.
Starting point is 00:44:41 So I don't know how I feel about that, where if they're going to force him to be a mid-range shooter, like they do most people. Joelle and B can kill you in that way. So you're not exactly the guy you want to beat you with jumpers. He can do it. But, you know, the heat, they have a way of making their shooters be a lot more shooty-ish in the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:44:57 So I kind of have a feeling that if they're going to make Jewel and B take a lot of mid-range shots, they're going to be rating threes. It's going to be effective. they're pretty healthy I kind of want to go to the heat but I'm not confident at all either way the only way
Starting point is 00:45:09 master class is on the way I think the sixes are a better team but I think the heat might win there might be better against the sixers yeah no that's a fair assessment I'm scared to see how Tobias Harris is going to play because he's been pretty up and down and a lot of 70-6ers fans
Starting point is 00:45:26 talking about following people on Twitter bro 70-sitchers fans fucking hate Tobias Harris they flip on him like every other day because you know defense yeah not really like just how we you know spaces the court at times and also there's shit it hurts to see and he's also he's gonna be like a very big act actor of course
Starting point is 00:45:45 it doesn't matter how well he plays how good or bad he plays joan b is the face of it it starts and end with him but all the other role players the only like they have to show up and be on 10 Kelly Uber like he said has to show up and be on 10 he's been on 10 the entirety of the season Tyreys maxi he's gonna face the toughest defense that he's ever facing
Starting point is 00:46:04 this entire life so far well actually you paid the Celtics last year so I don't know about that but um yeah the world players is going to have to show up for me I'm gonna go Miami real quick isn't it crazy
Starting point is 00:46:18 Kelly Uber got hit by a car this year sorry yo that's crazy that's the way you said it that's not funny on 100 like four four months ago he got right over
Starting point is 00:46:31 And now he's back He's about to play 40 minutes in a playing game He's awesome He's just dope as fuck I got such a cool-ass accomplishment To come back from That's insane Injury report
Starting point is 00:46:44 Hit my car I just don't think we We talk about it enough Like injury report Out room All right 53% of y'all Said Philly in the poll
Starting point is 00:46:57 I guess we can lean with the chat Because we're pretty torn Yeah So they move on So Philly wins This Miami Falls to the next game When they will play The winner of Bulls versus Hawks
Starting point is 00:47:10 We will spend exactly 15 seconds on it No words other than the team you want to see win Mo who's winning Don't care next Donovan who's winning This changes nothing Bulls Hawks
Starting point is 00:47:22 Mo pick a team Billy Donovan Okay and the Bulls advance Hawks your season is over We're done talking about the shitty-ass game. If you're a Bulls fan or a Hawks fan, I'm sorry for your loss.
Starting point is 00:47:35 Shout to the Martin Rosen. We got the Heat being the Bulls, right? Yeah. There we go. Okay. So Sixers get the Sevenths. I don't know about handily. Both teams, listen, both teams have a way of making games close,
Starting point is 00:47:48 closer than they need to be. Might be good for one team bad for another, but it happens. Let's assume the Sixers in the Heat get the seven and eight seed, because I do not want to talk with the Bulls and Hawks anymore. They are unserious franchises that should not. be in the playing tournaments. Now, we have our seatings done for the first round. Let's go back to the Western Conference and get to the actual series.
Starting point is 00:48:10 First round matchup, we have the Thunder versus the Pelicans. Who wins? Don't do that. No, we're not giving the Pelicans the Handicap. You lost. Me and Mo, go to the Pelicans. I said the Warriors. Oh, we were willing to chat to decide?
Starting point is 00:48:28 I'm just saying it's two, too. Oh, the jacket, equal vote They're thinking equal representation Wow I'm trying to see Steph Curry in the playoffs Come on, like All right, whatever, who loses to the thunder? It doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:48:40 Thunder versus Warriors, who do you have winning? Thunder. Inbound. Go to hell. Thank you. The words are getting clout. I think the thunder are being the fuck out of whoever comes out of this. Except the Lakers, they won't be the fuck out of them.
Starting point is 00:48:54 I think that would probably be close, but I still might lean the Warriors. I mean, the Thunder. But Warrior versus thunder i think they have absolutely nothing for the thunder not on the firepower to keep up offensively damn sure i don't got the defense to stop the rim pressure that the thunder can bring on i don't know what what's the what's the contrarian answer how could you possibly pick the warriors over thunder what would be the path of them to win step courage is going berserk
Starting point is 00:49:16 that's the only thing against jada blue dorton shay that's a lot of primitive defense like that's hard it's a hard ask for step to go that berserk i'm sorry that's the only way they win. Steph, you just have to average 35. I'm sorry. Now, in the matchup that they did face, when the Warriors did beat the Oklahoma City Thunder, it was a very different
Starting point is 00:49:37 type of win, different game. They just leaned entirely differently, pods in the starting lineup and shit. So it's hard to envision a pathway because this team, so much has changed with this team in terms of hierarchy and shit like that. Like, I do like the
Starting point is 00:49:53 I like how Trace matches up with Chet, you know, but they offer different things and chet is way more valuable obviously and so like that but it's a good piece to have this time around why is like like trace is like a just a regular dude like kendrick perkins i mean okay okay okay okay you have to stop with this trace probably shut up like like you have it that's why you're flasker gums like okay he's a he's a good player he's cool he's I think like, come on now. Trace and Chet Holmgren.
Starting point is 00:50:24 Come on. You're like, no, like he could do some things. Like, shut up, shut up. I respect Trace. He's good. He's a very useful player. It helps their team. He is not going to be the swing factor against Shed Hongren in the series.
Starting point is 00:50:36 He's not the one thing is going to be a swing, swing factor, right? Let's mute that. But considering what they have to offer. Yeah, exactly. That was very nasty. but considering like all the other pieces that they have to work through like i don't know how jonathan can mean is in a face-up against guys like 10 i don't know what it's going to look like when you call for kevon mooney for backup it's too slow-footed for this
Starting point is 00:51:00 fast-ass team so i'm like they're going to have to really rely on something like tracy i don't know how to pan out necessarily even though we saw it if they had to rely on trace their fucking coach they're down bad yeah like i like tracy if you got to rely on him to get buckets and get shed hungry and you are cooked you're decimated yeah who are there other options bro they don't have necessarily any that reliable yet yeah i don't know draymond get to shooting you're you're gonna have to put up some threes too you're gonna have to knock some knees as well what do you mean threes no so obviously the thunder's best asset offensively is they do a lot of guard guard screens and they really make every single
Starting point is 00:51:42 defender on the court be locked in defensively because if you're brand of Jemskie, one minute you're defending Jada, running a pick and roll fighting over a screen the next minute Jadub is setting a screen for Shea, so now you're being in drop coverage trying to do everything, really ask a lot of front of defenders, and a lot of players that they rely on are very young. Pods, Kaminga, Trace, like you said, a lot to ask for them to be on 10 like that and really lock in defensively and hold their own on that side, when they're going to have to also give a lot offensive when they're going to have to also give a lot offensive when they decide to match the level of offense Thunder can bring, I think
Starting point is 00:52:12 they might get flooded. That might be too much to ask for a young team. guys it's over it's over this series the real question is is it going to be in five games or six games
Starting point is 00:52:24 I would say six unless Camiga's a complete shitter I would go six yeah maybe six you know the thunder are young and I think it's overblown but I don't think
Starting point is 00:52:35 that youth will make them be like a first round exit like some haters will act but I can see it being a reason they lose one or two games against an extremely veteran savvy team with the Warriors and the Warriors have a pretty good
Starting point is 00:52:43 defensive ceiling if draymond's locked in a really good game plan so i could see a game or two where they come out and steal one yeah i was thinking the the thunder probably could have won this in five and i'm looking at the season series right now these two teams haven't played since december eighth they played all four games in like a month span the thunder went three and one against that stretch the warriors won by two in one game and the other two games went into overtime so these have been very like close matchups yeah and we saw a different team now it's a different So it's hard to talk about this matchup now. It is.
Starting point is 00:53:17 Yeah. But I think that, like, I've seen, I've seen the movie over and over again where the Warriors can get a playoff win that they're absolutely not supposed to. And so if they can go into OKC and steal game one, then they can easily push this to six. Listen, the chat is currently voting 70% of people voting for the Thunder. Not a close matchup either way they've got to spend too much time on. Yeah. Warriors, you had a bad season.
Starting point is 00:53:42 It ends poorly. somebody Mr. Rollshark donated $5 he said I think Mo is a bigger Trace Glazer than Isaac is a Wembee Glazer Now I wasn't
Starting point is 00:53:54 raving about Trace from top to bottom of the season Sorry man It's hard to be a Webby Glazer when you're just right Well Actually though to go against my own point I've been talking about Trace
Starting point is 00:54:05 over a year now So before the NBA So maybe I am Yeah You can't be a glazer Victor Wem Miamen Yamma He's Victor Wem Miamo That's ridiculous
Starting point is 00:54:12 Like, to be a glazier of women is to live with reality. To glaze Victor is to be a person who understands reality and knows what's in front of them at a very baseline level. Like, everybody should be
Starting point is 00:54:25 praising Victor Webbenyama. Oh my God. Have some shame, man. You gotta know what's in front of them. Everybody should be praising Victor Wobiniamma. Like, if you're not, you're just a hater.
Starting point is 00:54:34 You're not living in reality. Like, get real. Except that he's here. Next match, up. The 4-5. the best matchup of the first round y'all clippers versus mavericks who is winning this fucking death match
Starting point is 00:54:50 give me the mavericks in six six okay let's assume quai's healthy let's just for lack of for experiments save let's assume me the mavericks in six wow what about you bro he's better man than me donovan I was gonna say give me the Mazden five I hate me the clippers look bro I hate them absolutely chat spam it up who's winning
Starting point is 00:55:12 I want to see it It's close We did the power rankings last week I had the Mavericks top three Clearly I believe in this team more than the Clippers And I made them top three Knowing they were going to play In the first round
Starting point is 00:55:23 So I agree the Mavericks are going to win I think it would be seven though I think it's going to be a hard fought series What Really? Seven? Dude, the Clippers are good Let's not forget because they whimper to the end
Starting point is 00:55:37 We see Kauai every year Turn up in the playoffs We know he coasts in the regular season. It all depends on what James Harden looks like. He has not looked good as of late. But even without that, Paul George and Kauai, I think are going to be Paul George and Kauai. The Mavericks have good primitive defenders now. Their defense has been the top of league since the All-Star break. They're incredible. The biggest part of that is they have a really good paint defense with that array of big men they have. And P.J. Washington
Starting point is 00:56:01 is putting guys in jail. I don't think PJ Washington is putting Kaui and Laird in jail. So I'll say that. I think Kaui Leonard can kind of like neuter what PJ Washington brings a little bit because obviously you're going to put him on kawai and that'll leave paul george and hardin to deal with obviously no kairi and luke are going to be doing their job whenever they switched on to them but derrick jones jr dante x and these guys i'm not horrified of that if i'm paul george you know like six seven white man stomping down we see the second of the game bro they don't have anything for the mavericks offense that's why i think they're going to lose a series inevitably i think i'm trusting luca and kairi with two lop threats and a stretch five and plenty of wings
Starting point is 00:56:40 like a shoot on the perimeter along with them. I don't see the clippers had on the defensive ceiling to really lock that down. Zubash is going to be very taxed and their small ball units aren't what they used to be. And that's why I would go
Starting point is 00:56:52 with Dallas. The last time we saw Luca with a running mate go up against the clippers it was Christos Porzingis and then he ended up just like standing in the corner and then I think he even got hurt in that series. If Kyrie plays the way that he's been playing
Starting point is 00:57:06 which I have no reason to believe that he wouldn't and then Luca just comes Rolls out of bed, gets a nice, you know, 37, 10 and 12. They're not beating them. They're not beating them. They need James Hardin to be at least at like a 7 out of 10. And do you trust James Hardin to be a 7 out of 10 in a playoff series?
Starting point is 00:57:27 Do you trust Paul George to show up every single game? Like we're talking about Kauai Leonard showing up and being himself. He's coming into the series hurt. We don't even know if he's going to play game one. and if Kauai's not there for game one then that game should go to the Mavericks and I think I'm going to take them fairly easily even though that I'm saying six
Starting point is 00:57:49 it's still going to feel kind of easy Yeah, I got James Hardin's recent game log pulled up Last four games has been out One of those games is played 10 minutes Let's assume that's another O So it can't take much from the last four games Before that he had a good game at the Cavs 22, 5 and 5 on 6 and 11 from the field
Starting point is 00:58:02 The Jazz is 4 for 10 from the field The Nuggets 6 and 23 1 and 7 1 in 3 and 12 that's not even tour dates that's just aggression right now already y'all were in fucking March
Starting point is 00:58:14 he's in April bro already so this is a basketball hate crime everybody in the audience should be subject to a class action suit for watching this this is disgusting
Starting point is 00:58:21 class action suit yeah he's not showing up he's not showing up ah but again we talk about it all year though this team is so much more insulated to deal
Starting point is 00:58:32 with James Hardin fuckery than a past James Hardin team have his scoring is of little consequence. But I will say, the only reason we view this team as a second best team in the West early in the season is because his scoring was at a high level.
Starting point is 00:58:45 And when we saw him actually being able to score efficiently and made them go for being a pretty good team that's around the four or five or whatever, to being on fuckwithable, they were dominating by far the best offense in the league for a while during that stretch. You need James Hardin at that level if you want to be at that tier.
Starting point is 00:58:59 They can still win a series without that level of James Hardin, but you can't feel nearly as confident as you once did unless you get something from him. no and i i'll say it like i i was drinking the juice earlier in the year i remember having the clippers very very high in like our midseason power rankings i thought that they were legit i was i was tricked right they were legit until they weren't like they were playing good and then they'd stopped like it's not your fault i should have known but like no but like look at the franchise right i should have known that i can't you can't trust these guys for eight nine
Starting point is 00:59:30 month straight. That's on me. And I apologize to all the career I need is out there. I shouldn't have done that. But coming into this series, this is where as a man, you write your wrongs. And so I'm just not going to pick that. And so I'm going with the Mavericks. If you say, if you want to say Clippers and Six, I'd be okay with it. But the issue is, Isaac, like you said they're so, they're more built than any James Hardin team ever to deal with the James hard and fuckery but the issues that have like more fuckery going on behind james hard which is like the all george is also prone to fuckery exactly yeah paul jors has been naturally prone to that oh as of late throughout his clipper's history or whatever he's been
Starting point is 01:00:12 really up and down he's kind of unpredictable at that standpoint but even like behind paul george you don't know of course what kawai's going to be and do and then like i don't know zubot is so cooked in the situation scenario i don't know if he has his foot speed to go ahead and keep up with for Lucas is going to do with him in a pick and roll and having Derek lively now and Daniel Gaffert, who are completely different specimens compared to what Zubach had to deal with a couple years ago. Yeah. And I feel a lot better about the bench units of the Mavs because they can stagger Kyrie
Starting point is 01:00:44 and Luca. They aren't going to deal with like when those nuggets play, when Yokic sits, they lose their leads. They have to come back and Yokka just to blow the team out to build a new lead. I don't feel as scared about that with the Mavericks in the playoff setting because they have the ability to make Kyrie man second units. Luca. And the Clippers do the same thing with a Paul George and a Kauai. You know, they have that similar ability. And I think in many instances, that would be a huge advantage for the Clippers
Starting point is 01:01:06 to have that bench supremacy. I don't feel like that'd be a big advantage against the Mavericks. They can kind of nullify that advantage the Clippers usually create. It's a great point. That is a great point. Listen, the Chad agrees. The chat is at 75% Mavericks. They think it's going to be a blood batch just like everybody else. I caution you, if you're that confident in the Mavericks, I would temper expectations a little bit because the Clippers are still good, but it seems It seems like a clean sweep over here. Oh my gosh, bro.
Starting point is 01:01:31 That is crazy. Next up, we got Timberwood versus Sons. Y'all think about that while I read some donations real quick. Shout out to Gergel. I'm not even going to say that name. Shout out to you for $5. Shout out to the fourth door for tipping $1. Appreciate you.
Starting point is 01:01:49 And shout out to Mr. Raul Sharf for tipping another $5. He said, Isaac, I glazed 1B2. It's okay to admit you do. Shout out. A fellow Wembee glazer, I guess. Next series, Timberwolves versus Suns. You know, the Timberwolves are the one seat for the entire year, finished in the third seed.
Starting point is 01:02:06 Their path to the finals is now the Suns, Mavericks, Nuggets, to go those three teams in a run with the finals. Do you think they get past the Suns in the first round in the first place? I think they do. I think that their defense, the Sunburnt has Kevin Durant, the Timberwolves have Jada McDaniel. I don't know like I was kind of down on Minnesota like last week two weeks ago
Starting point is 01:02:34 and I'm still a little bit nervous just because I think that their offense might be bogged down and the Phoenix really gets clicking with Booker and Duran and Bio and all of them kind of start firing I don't think Minnesota has the offensive firepower to keep up but I don't think it'll get to that point because I do believe in Minnesota's defense And I think that Rudy Gaubert is going to do a really good job. I think that, and also, now that we're in the playoffs, he's going to be able to, you know, go full throttle, turn up his defense on the other end.
Starting point is 01:03:06 And if him, McDaniels and Rudy Gaubert are locked in, right? Mike Connolly doing his thing. If everybody's locked in defensively, the T-Wools are really, really hard to beat. I think I will take them. Can I chase him real quick? Yeah. I'm going to show you some real quick. Granted, I don't know if this means anything,
Starting point is 01:03:28 but Anthony Edwards in three games versus the suns this. 14.3 points, 6 rebounds, 3.7 assists. In these three games, plus minus, has been minus 29, minus 13, and minus 21. You put up 13, 17, and 13. The Phoenix Suns have his fucking number for whatever reason possible. And I would love to be a huge fan of the idea
Starting point is 01:03:49 of believing a defense over all else. but you just have to have you have to be able to go bucket for bucket with this team and I don't know if the Minnesota Timberwolves out of all the top playoff teams are the worst team to be set up to do that and the Phoenix suns as of late have been clicking on all cylinders Bradley Beale has been snapping I don't want to say a different player but he's been like peak Bradley Beale over the last 12 15 games and having him be revived alongside KD just being who he is and Devin Bucker doing the same exact thing. You have the defensive, I don't want to say genius,
Starting point is 01:04:27 but you have a defensive head coach and Frank Vogel who's, you know, pretty good on his end as well. I think that he's able to go ahead and sneak away with this series, girl. I hate to say it. These are Bradley Bill stats as of late. 36 points, 20, 26, 19, 33. But not a good tear.
Starting point is 01:04:49 You're starting to see, at least in this run, You know, it's only a five-gain sample size, but I feel like we're seeing him and Devin Booker have a much better feel of when to playmake and when to get their own shot and when to really play off each other well. That's peaking at the perfect time because there's been a lot of times this year,
Starting point is 01:05:04 Donovan's been the first one to tell us what the fuck does Bradley Bill bring? We're starting to see the advantages whenever they can be on the same page. Yeah. I'm going against it, though. I'm going against it. I mean, because even last year,
Starting point is 01:05:20 we saw, and granted, They lost in five. And maybe that's what ends up happening this year is that Minnesota, like, fights very hard, but at the end of the day, they just don't have the late game offense. But we've seen all year, Phoenix doesn't have the late game offense either.
Starting point is 01:05:36 So I'm not too scared of what Phoenix can do if the game gets really close down the stretch. And Ant had a really good series. And again, even though that the team was lost in five to the Nuggets, that was probably Denver. toughest series like they really really had to had to dig deep to go and get some of those wins and now that now that like mcdaniels is back and he wasn't there last year now as read is is here as well we'll see right like how much of cat will be able to to participate i i'd like
Starting point is 01:06:14 them and i i'm going to pick them to win but i see that i'm outnumbered no i don't i haven't decided that part to me is Minnesota has the best defense in the league because of the rim supremacy obviously Rudy Gobert and good perimeter defenders around you incredibly difficult to get to the rim they allow the second most mid-range shots in the league outside the Warriors and that's by design
Starting point is 01:06:35 they want you take middies and they want you to take the least sufficient shots in the court while they focus on the rim and three and really try to beat you with math in that way makes sense against most teams but we've seen year in and year out in the playoffs that that goes out of the door a little bit in the playoffs setting when you have shooters like a Devin Booker like a Kevin Durant that can shoot so well
Starting point is 01:06:55 from the mid-range so consistently that the math isn't applied to them the same way when you're shooting over 45% of these mid-range shots in the playoff setting where things are really slowed down and the games are close you need to block it every time down that advantage gets smaller and smaller so it's kind of like in the one thing every defense has to give something up on purpose and allow you beat them in some way and the suns are perfectly equipped to thrive in the way that they want, that the Timberwolves want teams to beat them in. So I don't know if that's really going to, do you think their defense is going to look quite as good when that's the case?
Starting point is 01:07:26 Yeah. It's going to, it's, it's going to be fine. Like, is it going to, is it going to operate at, like, peak, peak level? Probably not. But even 75, 80% of what the Timberwolves can do defensively is still better than the majority of the league. And we've been waiting for the Timberwolves to get together, especially now that the cat's back and really show us like, can you guys show everybody that like we can trust you and you can put all these things together? I feel the same exact way about Phoenix.
Starting point is 01:08:01 I've been waiting all year. And granted, like Mo said, Bradley Bill is coming on. But I've been waiting all year for the sons to have an extended period of time where I can look at them and legitimately say, I trust you in a seven. game series and i can't do that i think that the ceiling for the suns is probably what it was last year you guys have a very explosive two games get everybody thinking thinking that you're going to do something and then you're probably going to get figured out and have the same issues that you've got all year but last time they were playing nicole yokish so they had those explosive two games and then just got decimated by the smartest mind in the sport that's not the
Starting point is 01:08:39 going to be the same circumstances this time around you know they're going to answer Edwards is going to have to put the team on his motherfucking back, and he's going to have to have a crazy showing like we saw him due to start of last season in the first round. He's capable. But, you know, the Sons aren't a horrible defense. They've been around 10 or 11th defense all year. Somehow they maintained a pretty solid rim defense with Yusuf Nurchas back there. And I don't know who they're going to throw at him as his main assignment on the perimeter. But it's not going to be an easy series from, I don't think. You know, he's not going to just, like, cook them like he would, like the Kings or whatever. I think I'm going
Starting point is 01:09:07 to go the Sons. I'd sack religious because I think the Timberwolves have been much better throughout the year, and at their peak, if Kat's back looking fully as good as he did early in the season, I'd probably go with them. But the depth is a question mark there, and I just think it's a battle of strengths and weaknesses that doesn't quite suit. You know, it's a worst case scenario for the Timberwolves for a reason. The fucking sun shoots set 47% on mid-range shots. If you're going to get them that shot every single time down the court, which they're not going to, they're going to, you know, adjust in some ways. But that's going to do a lot to make the Timberwell's defense look worse than we've seen in the regular season.
Starting point is 01:09:38 The only way the temper rules go ahead and surprise me and win this series is if Anthony Edwards becomes like the second best player on the court. And I just generally don't know if he can do that or be that. And obviously too, like what you said, Isaac, if Carr Anthony Towns somehow ramps up playoff form already and can give you a consistent, I don't know, 17, 20 points tonight, then that changes a lot as well. But I'm not necessarily expecting that from him. and all eyes lean on Anthony Edwards and what he's going to do because he's clearly been neutralized every single possession, every single time they play against him. And if, you know, like you're going to overcome a team like the Phoenix Suns who have been a lot better over the last, I don't know, 15, 20 games in the fourth quarter who have, you know, Bradley Biel, who we said Pat in previous press conferences. Like he said, I feel like I don't have a role right now on this team. Clearly he's fucking figured it out, locking him in more.
Starting point is 01:10:34 defense and hitting all of his shots and he's clearly motivated and stuff like that and then you have a seven foot demon and Kevin Durant, Katie's going to do Katie things there's just so many things that you have to figure out ways to see Minnesota win and at that point
Starting point is 01:10:50 you're doing mental gymnastics and I think at this point in time they just might be in a weird sense outclassed yeah doubt Nas read if you want to doubt Nas read if you want to Okay, we'll see. Speak about doubting.
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Starting point is 01:11:54 donations I missed. Shout out to Jesse for donating $25. He said, which players do you guys expect to be the biggest playoff risers and the biggest playoff flop? playoff riser and jalen brunson i mean he he's just going to keep doing what he's doing it's not rising um honestly i think franz i think franz i think franz i think franz has had
Starting point is 01:12:19 he's had a very very bad shooting year and i think he he'll be able to to turn it off okay that's super interesting um shout out to the fourth door for tipping three dollars oh no you can say who's your playoff riser moe Playoff Riser I would I would look at someone in the Western Conference I would say fucking
Starting point is 01:12:39 I don't know maybe Bradley Biel with the way he's been fucking Google Resolate super motivated who's been
Starting point is 01:12:43 in Washington Washington his entire life so I might say Bradley Biel and then yeah Bradley Biel for sure and shout out
Starting point is 01:12:51 Lincoln for tipping $2 y'all let's move on to the last series in the first round in the Western Conference Denver Nuggets
Starting point is 01:12:57 versus Los Angeles Lakers what's our prediction the Nuggets Denver Nuggets I kind of want the Lakers to lose, bro. God damn it. I mean, I want the, I want the Lakers to lose their game against the Pelicans because...
Starting point is 01:13:10 Fuck, they can go so far. Yeah. Listen, it's not going to be Nuggets in four again. I think a big difference from last year's Lakers team is LeBron Tees is fully healthy and looks a lot better physically, a lot better driving to the rim consistently, can do more at the ball in his hands. I think they have a better chance to give the Nuggets some trouble, but some trouble looks like maybe they've been one or two games instead of zero.
Starting point is 01:13:33 I'm still going nuggets. and six at the very least. Give me the Nuggets in five. Yeah, that's also realistic. Yeah, Nuggets are five for sure. Five or six. It's not going seven at all. Yeah, the only way it will go six, worst case scenario,
Starting point is 01:13:47 seven is if Jamal Murray got hurt or just wasn't looking like himself. But since he's been back from injury, he's fully looked like the normal peak Jamal Murray that we're used to. And things are looking scary for the Laker, bro. They might get, you know, swept again, or they're going to get, like, out of it. in five games and I'm leaning towards out of five games just out of respect for my glorious king sunshine james i find it hard to believe they get their ass look like that again just because i think the lebron james being healthy factor is a big thing we forget about when we talked about
Starting point is 01:14:16 last year's series he was looking old as fuck it looked like he was cooked because that foot injury was holding him back so much that man could not run fast we saw in the last game in game four he ran its fast he could for the first half second gaffe second half he was cooked he couldn't do anything he scored like 35 in the first half end the game of 40 because he was exhausted. And that's a big difference. I think the fact that they were able to make the conference finals with him being that hampered is like insane. And I think now we're going to see them look a lot different. Again, don't think it makes them win, but I find it hard to believe they get swept or even losing five. Rui Hatchamor. It is on you to shoot 55% from three
Starting point is 01:14:52 against the Denver Nuggets. It's on you to be the Nikola Yokin Stopper. This series lives and dies with how good Ruri Hachamor plays. I don't want to be in that situation if I'm the Lakers. And D. Rochamir, please save us. Please save us, please save us, Reed. That's what you're doing right now, bro. Delo, if you're going to get lots up, do it in the practice gym. Don't do it on the floor.
Starting point is 01:15:15 You're going to get clown this year. If you do it again, a lot of things went right for the Lakers last year. Like, Rui really, really turned up. Austin Reeves. He really, he really turned up it as well. I think for the, the Rui part is like the, the number one thing for me just because I think he like he really really expanded their offense they've been able to get there offensively in the second half of the year which is
Starting point is 01:15:42 interesting and um I forget the word but like it means like it's a good sign I the word is evading me thank you yeah it's promising um but I you look at how the nuggets operate down the stretch of games and that two-man action with with murray yoke it's it's unstoppable and And Anthony Davis is obviously a good option to try and defend Yokic, but he still gets cooked, too. So, like, everybody gets cooked. So I can't pick the Lakers in the series against Denver. In three games this season, Nicole Yolkitch is averaging 29.3 points, 12.0 rebounds, 9.0 assist against the Lakers. In those games, she's got 54%, 45% and 64% from the field.
Starting point is 01:16:29 There's no stopping this man. Nobody is stopping him in the Western Conference. I'll spoiler alert now None of these motherfuckers are beating him Yeah What else can I say bro? Y'all hit it on the head All right P
Starting point is 01:16:42 Again I don't think it'll be a sweep I won't be as bad as last year But even a substantial improvement Is still losing in six games Tough sliding out here When you're playing in Nicole I'm just prime Tough Exactly
Starting point is 01:16:54 On to the Eastern Conference I see a lot of people spamming That come into the chat late And have you all done the East No we haven't And now we're gonna do the East well let's start with the one one eight real quick who we have we had the heat in the eight seed
Starting point is 01:17:06 the he versus the Celtics this is like matchup number 62 in the last five years it seems like do we see this going differently as last year do we see the heat having another Cinderella run or the Celtics on a way to a rampaging to the finals you tell me I think the Celtics come out motivated
Starting point is 01:17:24 and they have fire in their fucking ice from getting not embarrassed last year because embarrassed but embarrassed there you go I was being nice, but they got embarrassed. Last two in a season, the winner. And, yeah, I want to lean towards themselves this way. This is a different team because they just added two more X-factor,
Starting point is 01:17:43 lethal option than Chris Stops. What he does to their offense in terms of just, like, spacing makes them at times feel undefendable because there's always, like, a counter-to-a-counter, and they're just so versatile. There's a myriad way to get a bucket one way or another. Jason Samu's going to do Jason Stammer, things drew holidays there who's going to be able to choose just an extra body to throw on jimmy bowler although like you know i'm not saying he's going to stop him but it's an extra body that's
Starting point is 01:18:09 useful so i want to lean their way i'm going with the celtics yeah i'm i'm also going with the seltics i think the same thing happens i think like last year they came out and somehow they were down three oh they will be up three oh on the miami heat this year if they play them in the first round. I agree, obviously, I'm picking the fucking Celtics to win the series. But doesn't it make you at least a little bit scared, like knowing what could happen what we've seen in the past? Like, we didn't pick the heat last season in the series at all, right?
Starting point is 01:18:40 Like, you said somehow they're down 3-0? Yeah. Wasn't expected. It's not expected this year. Is there just a little bit in you that's like, listen, they're going to make them be a three-point shooting team. They always make them fall into their worst habits. The heat always turn up three-point shooting-wise.
Starting point is 01:18:52 And it's like, you know, any given night, this depends on whose threes are falling more when these two teams play. they could go cold I don't know like is there a little bit in you that's like maybe something crazy will happen
Starting point is 01:19:02 because of the roster additions like 2% but then I look at the roster distance of the solos and there's just no way in hell like this is possible there's just zero chance
Starting point is 01:19:14 maybe they make Drew take like seven threes and he clanks all them bitches like maybe they make him be the guy that beat you it's not it's not
Starting point is 01:19:22 it's not it's not it's not happening this looks are way too good exactly especially because like that last year though but like last year when you but last year when you're playing them and granted we've seen Drew Holiday look a little you know suspect in the playoffs
Starting point is 01:19:38 but you had minutes being taken up by Marcus Smart and Grant Williams and now those minutes are being taken up by Derek White Drew Holiday and Chris Sop's Boersingis so those two are massive massive upgrades and again we talked about
Starting point is 01:19:56 this earlier, like Jason Tatum, now is kind of the time for Tatum to come out and be this dominant score. And I think that you're probably going to see a little bit more of an aggressive Jason Tatum in the playoffs. And we'll see if the Celtics are going to kind of let him do that. But, yo, the clock has to run out on the Miami Heat. You can't keep doing this every single year coming from the seven or the eight seed and thinking that you're going to overtake the one season. It's not going to happen. So I am taking the Boston Celtics in...
Starting point is 01:20:33 They're going to sweep them. They're going to sweep them. I'll say Boston N5. I'll say Boston N5. It really comes down to Chris Osbergis. I think he gives him a different look because he has an immense spacer. They can do pick and pop,
Starting point is 01:20:49 space five out, and pull Bam out of Bio away from the rim. And, you know, if they put a guard on him, A lot of teams, their whole thing is that you put your weakest defender on the center and see if, that's kind of like the MO for a lot of playoff matchups, is who can you hide on the opposing team's center? Like when we see the team play the sons, they're like, we're going to hide somebody down Nurkich. We're begging Nurkish to beat us, right?
Starting point is 01:21:09 Yeah. He's not going to sit here and post up, I don't know, Damien Lillard, whoever, every single play. You can't really hide anybody on Kristos Porzingis. Either they're stretched out to the perimeter if they're big, and they're not going to put help with the rim. If you put a small guard on him, who the heat play a lot of small guards, Chrisos Porzingis has been fantastic this year, attacking mismatches down low and off the dribble, you're not going to hide Terry Rozier on him,
Starting point is 01:21:27 you're not going to hide Tyler Hero on him, it's not going to go well for you. The Celtics are very great attacking those matchups. I don't know what the answer is, except shooting variance. That's the heat's only chance is if they can make it a two-point shooting contest and they just happen to hit more on some nights with the Celtics go cold. Yeah, exactly. I think you hit it on the head, Isaac, the difference is going to be someone like Chris tops.
Starting point is 01:21:47 You could easily hide, uh, bam out of bio and guys like, I don't know, previously last year they had Marcus Mark. closing out a lot of time and mark smart's a hell of a different shooter compared to someone like of course chrys house prozingis and the threats are just there like last year we saw in a close out game against the uh boston celtics marcus smart went ahead and he shot like one for six from three or whatever he's like not on once had non factor but chris house prozengis is one of the most lethal shooters in the entire NBA and having someone who's i don't know he's he's seven three right
Starting point is 01:22:23 a lot of people forget about that seven three and you can fucking huge whatever it is he's giants 28 bro 28 feet away from the rim
Starting point is 01:22:31 he's 612 it's a huge factor 612 it's a huge factor bro so I'm leaning I'm leading with the Celtics for sure okay yeah
Starting point is 01:22:40 not much talk about we know the Celtics are winning this first on series it's fine next up the series the Cavaliers wanted the four seed versus the five seed
Starting point is 01:22:48 Cavaliers versus Magic whose season is ending a disappointment chat spam it up who's winning the series i want to see it in the chat if you're an or no magic fan you can't be that disappointed with regardless of what happens but i might lead in orlando magic they might win this bitch yeah play the song play the Orlando magic are going to the second round of the playoffs Orlando magic they're going to do it we're going to see lineups like last year
Starting point is 01:23:19 we thought that the calves had a chance against the mix because of their defense I feel like this series is going to be disgusting. It's going to be, it's going to, you're like, you're going to see a couple games in the 80s. And I think that the magic are going to, they're going to be able to have like five, six minute stretches where they're going to shut down everything for Cleveland. Like there, Jared Allen's not going to do anything.
Starting point is 01:23:45 Donovan Mitchell is going to have cold stretches. Darius Garland isn't going to be able to get comfortable. Like Cleveland is going to have moments where they are relying, on Max Strouss to and his movement to knock down threes they're gonna be like George Nying, please save us please make a shot
Starting point is 01:23:59 because the magic are they're locking them up they are that that defense that they have always scary they're both locking each other it's gonna like you said it's gonna be an ugly ass series
Starting point is 01:24:11 I think Evan Moby I have faith that Moby can do a decent job against Palo Bancaro Palo Bancaro's biggest threat is his off the drivel shot he has a handle and all the speed for his size that he uses to change speeds
Starting point is 01:24:22 and get to a mid-range jumper because teams sell out so hard to stop him from getting to the rim. That's a bad habit of his. I think he needs to attack the rim more often. He's low-key in like 23-year-old Jason Tatum territory when it comes to that. He needs to realize he's gigantic
Starting point is 01:24:33 in 6-10 and can attack the rim. He's going to take a lot of jumpers and I think Mobley has the speed and length to really make those shots hard for him. So I can see Palo shooting tour dates, which you know he has to. He has to be a volume shooter. Franz is a big X factor here.
Starting point is 01:24:46 Who are they going to put on him? Max Truce? Big size of disadvantage there. Big Isaac O'Rour minutes is possible. Then you have to bench one of the bigs or Max Trues, who's really important
Starting point is 01:24:55 for your spacing. Are you going to close with Darius Garland on the bench? I guess that's possible given his lack of consistency as of late. But then, you know, don't got a lot of firepower
Starting point is 01:25:03 where Donovan Mitchell and a bunch of wings that aren't great shooters, just him alone. Like, you're really putting a lot of pressure on his shoulders with Jalen Suggs breathing down his fucking neck
Starting point is 01:25:11 the whole time. I don't, what's the biggest advantage they have here? D. Mitch is being the best player on the court? Yeah. And that might, and that might be all it takes
Starting point is 01:25:19 because D. True. Mitch has consistently been, you know, depending on the year. In general, he's viewed as, like, a playoff rider. He's had his years like last year. It's just like, meh, yikes. We can really delete this off of the tape. But honestly, like, if D. Mitch is who we think he is, which is one of the, I don't
Starting point is 01:25:35 know, 17 worst case scenario, like 20 best players in the NBA, then that should be able to be enough for him to get him over the hump, which is the only land of magic in this series. But damn, bro. Like you said, this is going to be so in the mud because obviously both of these teams have great defenses. But on top of that, both of these teams are going to be guarding themselves because of how wonky the space is going to be for, you know, Jared Allen and Emmemobies of the world. And it's just about like who can overcome it the most. And I feel comfortable leaning D. Mitch as well.
Starting point is 01:26:09 I want to. I want to feel comfortable. But again, do you have to get a lot of production out of Garland who, again, they have Jalen sucks who maybe they put them on D. Mitch and take away their. strongest weapon, or they say Garland is a swing factor, Suggs, go terrorize this guy and make it so Dematch has to win alone. Whichever option it is, Suggs is a big weapon to have here for a pick and roll heavy team with two small guards that Suggs is excellent to defend those type of guys. And you got the big fours in the outside. Like, it's going to be hard if these guys to get to the rim. And if you don't have like 2021 Darius Garland, I don't think they have
Starting point is 01:26:40 no firepower here. Yeah, I agree. I agree. D. Mitch has to be on one, first and foremost. He has to be on-on. And as we know, like, over the course of the end of the season, he hasn't been great necessarily coming off the injuries. So if he's not, then I'm leading Orlando magic. And I'm predicting that he's not. What happens when, what happens when Orlando, like, Jalen sucks is doing his thing? And Orlando's just like, all right, John Isaac, come in, do you think? Exactly. Exactly. Like, what do you do? What if you are, If you are Cleveland, and if you, like, your starting lineup has Moby and Allen, and let's say you're running that towards the game, what do you do when Orlando looks at you
Starting point is 01:27:25 and says, okay, we're going to have Suggs and Jonathan and Isaac on the floor at the same time? Bro, every half, they can come out here and be like, everything's chill, everything's, we're going back and forth, exchanging buckets, both teams are getting to where they want to be on the court. Your sweet spots, my sweet spots, it's a rock fight. Here's seven unadultered minutes of Jonathan, motherfucking Isaac terrorizing everything. Like, those small stretches are good, those such a wrench. You're right. Like, what do they do?
Starting point is 01:27:48 What's the counter? What do you do when he goes on the court other than be like, fuck? I guess I better grab a lot of rebounds. Yeah, y'all say that as if, like, Jonathan Isaac is like a seven, is a seven, eight foot dragon, bro. He is.
Starting point is 01:28:01 Do you realize? He is, like, prime Yonis defensively right now. He doesn't play enough minutes to get the full recognition. It's like you add a 2019 Yonnasulte Koubao defensively onto the court for seven minutes at a time. I mean, he was... Bro, he was making Dane look
Starting point is 01:28:16 so bad in their in their game like i if you are the calves and you see and you see like suz and izic in at the same time you're going to have to change up your lineup to try and get to try and get more spacing more shooting to you know potentially like exploit that but then on the opposite side okay now pala can go to work now franz can go to work now now you're giving up that defense that is supposed to be one of the strengths of your team i i just think think that their counters are going to put them in bad positions if Orlando gets rolling defensively. And the best way, the best way for Cleveland to win this is obviously for Demits to go crazy. But it's, I, I'm anticipating both teams to be very strong defensively.
Starting point is 01:29:03 And if that's the case, I think Orlando's defense is going to be better and they're going to win this series. It can go seven. I'm going to say Orlando and six. Yeah, I was thinking 7-2 But I think I've talked myself into it Orlando in 6 feels good Yeah, wow I'm gonna go Orlando in 7 Yeah honestly
Starting point is 01:29:23 A D-Mitch Renaissance and just masterclass changes everything That can be the swing factor If we see bubble D-Mitch come out Then everything changes real fast And like that's the type of playoffs You can never really expect Because who knows who's gonna turn up If it's him that changes everything
Starting point is 01:29:36 What'd you say? I'd say he might be checked out already No, everything that will be here about him say He's fully about the team. He's not as buying into it as the media wants him to. You want to do it? Cancun?
Starting point is 01:29:49 Bucle me, Mitch. Hey, we might see him there. Exactly. Oh, yeah, we're going to be there. We're going to be there. That's hilarious. Are we going to do a show from there? Are we going to make that into a work trip?
Starting point is 01:30:04 I'll fly. I'll fly. Okay. Next series, y'all. I know y'all are probably bored to hell. the worst series of the start of the first round. Let's get to an interesting one. I'm sure the chat will have takes on.
Starting point is 01:30:19 Chat, who is winning Bucks versus Pacers? Spam it up. Let me know who you think are going to win. What do you guys think? This is a fun one. Let's say Janus missed the first game. Yonismith is one game. Use that in your head as a baseline.
Starting point is 01:30:34 How do we feel? The last time we saw Yon Smith, like the first game of the playoff series, they got upset. They got smacked. Yeah, but they're also playing the voodoo black magic heat They're not walking through those doors You know, it's a little different
Starting point is 01:30:48 You're right But you got Doc Rivers on your team And that's like voodoo black magic alone You know Like something, whatever whatever way you think Whatever positive theory you have Something wrong will always find its way to happen Something wrong will always happen
Starting point is 01:31:06 So you're going with So you're going with Humo I have to go with Janus I want to go with Janice Maybe it's six or seven This is going to be a seven game series I think honestly I think I think it will I think it will I think it will go seven And I think that the new
Starting point is 01:31:26 Point Guard of the NBA The new face of point guard at the in the NBA Tyree Taliburton I think he's going to come out on top He's playing better as a plate Tyree Zahman shot is trying to fall I'm taking the Pacers in this series I'm going to take them in seven.
Starting point is 01:31:43 I do not believe in the Milwaukee Bucks. I have not been able to get on the bandwagon. If Yonis misses game one, I think Indiana is going to be able to get there. Their defense, right, is also much better than the beginning of the season and everything that, like, we think the Indiana paces are where it's just this team that scores 140 and they give up 145. Like, they've been better defensively, especially since Siakum has been there. I think that they can be competent enough four times to get a win.
Starting point is 01:32:19 You know it's funny? In the last 17 games, the Pacers have the 17th defense. The Bucks have the 18th. They're both just cool. They're all right defensively. They're both exactly the same. Yeah, it's like, we could probably be a little bit better, but like this will do for right now. And I don't know, man.
Starting point is 01:32:36 I'm taking Indiana. In those 15 games, Indiana second in offense, and the Bucks are 17th in offense. The Bucks are 17th in offense and 18th in the defense in the last 15 games. That is not exactly inspiring. We know they can turn it up and in the playoffs, everything changes.
Starting point is 01:32:52 Things are very different from a regular season. But that's not exactly good momentum, you know? Yeah, they're doing exactly what the clippers are doing on the other side. They're kind of falling apart at the wrong time. And we're like, yeah, man. Like, listen, Luca's going to go. in there he's going to do it and like obviously different circumstances different players we know
Starting point is 01:33:12 that yannis is one of those guys in the league but the fact that tyrese haliburne is starting to return to what he was that's very very promising for you and that that means a lot because in the middle of the season i was very very high on haliburne and the potential of what they could do especially after they got Siaco but I think they can get them yeah someone in the chat just said that uh
Starting point is 01:33:40 some of the chat said that Isaac and Dawn made a bet onto the Patriots would beat the bucks in a playoff series a while back did we bet on that I guess you would have said the bucks lost I said the books would win
Starting point is 01:33:49 yeah fucking I don't remember I don't remember it was on a BR stream how the fuck does you know then no way it couldn't have been I don't know I think it might have been
Starting point is 01:33:59 all right Regardless, are you going to stand on that bet or what? Because I want to watch this shit right here. I don't want to say I want to. Wait, listen, in the chat, because I honestly forgot the terms of that bet, too. So what did I say that I was going to do? Like, what were the stakes? I don't even know.
Starting point is 01:34:17 Because I might have just been talking. You do a lot of that. Depending on what I say, I'm going to use that as an out. But do we really think that Yonnasin-Koumbo is going to lose to the fucking Pacers? with the way the pace Well, this is a different Pacers team. We haven't talked about how things would look on court-wise because the Pacers are, of course,
Starting point is 01:34:41 a different team offensively and defensively with Pascal Siakum in there. They're still like, you know, same identity still lies, but it's different because Buddy Heald is no longer there and you replace that with Pascal Seaghancom, not as much of a shooter, but you can do a hell of a lot of other things. I don't know. even match-up-wise, I don't know how this will come out to fold, come out and unfold.
Starting point is 01:35:07 Yeah. So how much, I mean, in the day, we talk a lot about different matchups, who has what advantage and where and whose offense can match up, but whose defense and whatnot. But, like, end of the day, very often the team with the best player wins. And, like, we saw the bucks lose last year when Janus was hampered a little bit, missed a couple games, because Jimmy was playing the best player. He was averaging, like, 37 points per game on a ridiculous efficiency for that series. Don't see Tyre's Taliburton doing anything of that sort, given how he's been
Starting point is 01:35:31 the second half of the season. He's playing better, efficiency-wise, still averaging a cool 19 points per game over the last 15 games. Not exactly the 27-point-per-game heater he started the season off with. You're going to need to have somebody really step up because Janus is not going to step down. He's going to do Janus things and be incredible. They have no answers for him. He dropped 603 against the team, didn't he? This team has zero bodies that can compete with him. Pascois Yakum was great. Not exactly a Yonist stopper. Miles Turner, we all know, has absolutely nothing from him physically. That's a lot to overcome. in a seven-game sample size,
Starting point is 01:36:02 but you have to deal with that every single night when him averaging a cool 33 points to game on elite efficiency. We'll see what Dame does, but we know that when it comes down to it, they're going to revert to Chris Middleton, Yannis pick and roll. Dane, do whatever you can,
Starting point is 01:36:14 but we know that duo can be really reliable. Brooke Lopez is Brooke Lopez. I struggle to believe the Pacers can really do this. Not going to lie. That's fine. The Paces have Doc Rivers on their side and Rick Carlisle. So there's like,
Starting point is 01:36:31 A 1.5 coaching match. Yeah, exactly. It was a coaching gap. And if they're going to do this, it has to be by committee for the Indiana Pacers. And looking at all the bodies that they have, like, of course, Tyrese Pascals going to be there. Miles Turner's a legit force, him compared to Brooke Lopez, clearly wins that matchup at the stage in Brooke Lopez's career. I think a real X factor is fucking Chris Middleton. And obviously, Dave Miller, he's probably an even bigger ex-out because he's been so up and down throughout the entirety of the year.
Starting point is 01:37:01 year but it comes down to those two genuinely when i think of this and what they're going to provide on the night-to-night basis with dame at this point you almost never fucking know and it's been like that for the entirety of the year unless like he doesn't have yonis on the team which is weird as hell but if chris milton can come out show out average a cool 15 16 points a night and you're telling me yonis is healthy as well and dame is just doing whatever dame does It's going to be hard to envision the way the Pacers get to the stuff. They need early season Tyrese Hallibor, and he hasn't been that. And maybe we see him be a crazy playoff riser, but as much as I love him,
Starting point is 01:37:43 I don't think he has a scoring game. It's like super well suited for a playoff series, you know? Like, I'm not going to say things about him that I say about like Shea, who has the type of individual shot creation that's hard to game plan for. Tyrese needs a lot of step back three to fall. You can game plan for that. You can sit on that. You can, you know, he has a playmaking to be able to really,
Starting point is 01:38:01 make you pay if you sell it on his shot too much but he's not I don't think he's going to be a high volume playoff score really at any point of his career that's not going to be his game I just don't see how they I know they have the firepower collectively the number two offense in the league they have been the whole time there's a big difference in collective offensive rating against the entire entirety of the league and versus one team as game planning for you on a seven game series it's not just can you score points consistently in that way
Starting point is 01:38:23 it's do you have the necessary ways and variety of skill set of scoring points that can match up when somebody takes away your best options TVD for them. And that's why Pascal Seacom is there. Exactly. That's the entire reason for him. And that's what makes this conversation even harder because it's like,
Starting point is 01:38:39 what is he going to look like against the bucks? This is the hardest series to predict in my mind that I think about it, man. Yeah, I'm going to go bugs. I'm going to default to the low IQ, just like they're better, more talented thing. Like, this is one that says where I just feel like that's something you can rely on, you know?
Starting point is 01:38:54 Yeah, it doesn't, it makes sense, obviously, to pick the bucks, but they are not in a position where, like, they've shown us over the last, you know, a couple weeks that they're not in the best position. They're not, they're not stronger. They're not moving well. And I don't like having, like, negative momentum coming into the playoffs,
Starting point is 01:39:15 especially with a team that's kind of finding their groove again. So that's why I'm, you know, back in the Pacers. Listen, if we were guessing the second round series today, I wouldn't be picking the buck. I'll tell you that. But just focusing on the first round, even with the lack of momentum, I think they can pull it out. It'll be just hard-fought six or seven games
Starting point is 01:39:30 because I think they had good momentum and they were like mid-season bucks and they were putting it together when they got doc, then I'm like, okay, four or five games, this is going to be a bloodbath. Now I think because of the slow play we've seen as of late, like you said,
Starting point is 01:39:42 six or seven, it's going to be tough. For sure. I'm willing to bucks too. If Tyree's Heilberg was supernova like he was earlier in the year, like you said, Isaac, average 27, I might lean their way, but I'm going to go with the bucks for now.
Starting point is 01:39:54 Listen, Chad agrees. 62% are saying Milwaukee, everybody's so out on Tyrese right now I see why they said that we'll see how it goes y'all we got one more first round series to get to Donovan the one you've been waiting for who is winning when the Knicks play
Starting point is 01:40:09 the 76ers in the first round matchup between the two and seven seed chat spam it up are the Knicks beating Joelle and Bede is Joelle and B flopping again I want to see your thoughts you already know the vibes I want Joelle and Bid to come into the garden
Starting point is 01:40:26 and have disaster classes. This is Tom Tibido. Listen, Isaiah Hardinstein, getting buckets. Mitchell Robinson doing this thing. If Jalen Brunson and O'Don and Obie are there, the Knicks win this series in sixth and... Wow. That's it.
Starting point is 01:40:43 Bro, I think the 76ers are dangerous. Like, okay, I don't know what I had to think through, but I think it'll go seven. In whatever direction, I go seven, I think. They are. They are very, very dangerous. But they're not the most. most dangerous because that's the new york nix that's jalen brunson these the even without o g like brunson's
Starting point is 01:41:03 ability to really put the offense on his back and still like create stuff and and i i'm very very curious to see just how well josh hart plays because jillan brunson yeah go my bad go ahead go ahead no i was going to say like two things like dylan brunson is the most my knight and shining armor player ever. You just feel so protected and like no one can fuck with you. Why? Because I got this man on my team right here and not even bullets can go through this man. So it's like having him on that on that team in the playoffs is such a huge difference.
Starting point is 01:41:39 He is bulletproof as fuck. Jenner Brunton is, I feel so confident he will play like Jayne and Brunson in a playoff setting, especially against the 76ers who aren't a bad defensive team. But I don't think they necessarily have the personnel to really make Jay, Jaylen Brunson's sweat. We've always said like, oh, he's small. You can throw doubles at him, make him pass and beat you as a passer. They know this. They've played a whole season with Jalen Brunson being small and being thrown doubles at him. They know how to combat this. He wouldn't be scoring 40 every night if it was that simple to just throw bodies at him.
Starting point is 01:42:06 They're really good at having shooters in the wing that can attack closeouts and make plays as the release valves. They have Hardenstein and Mitchell Robinson, who are bigs that can do a little bit in the short role when they get past to him. Jailen Bunch says great at counters and fighting away from double teams and getting to his mid-range shots. It's not as easy as that. but joel and bead is a pretty great pick-and-roll weapon so jalen brunson's going to have to be a really heavy isolation score if we're going to iso for iso brenson against joel and bead that's tough which supporting cast do you believe in more from a shot-making perspective
Starting point is 01:42:35 maxi and i guess kowleri and all those guys there or the band of brothers power of friendship nicks power friendship power of friendship these guys man i i think that like last year we saw what Brunton was able to do against one of those types of teams in terms of like the Miami Heat and he still had a very, very good series.
Starting point is 01:43:02 It was everybody else who wasn't showing up. It was RJ who wasn't knocking down shots. Quickly had a terrible playoffs. Randall wasn't playing well. Josh Hart, I don't need Josh Hart. Well, I actually might. I might need Josh Hart to score 15 or 16, but that's okay.
Starting point is 01:43:16 Dante has been lining it up from three this entire year. And again, we've seen the shift between the Knicks when OG's there and when OG's not there. And if he's there and if you are able to deploy him on the wing as just this defensive monster to take away everybody, he can disrupt a lot of what Philly does offensively. I think New York with home court advantage, like those first two games in the garden is going to be something crazy. And it's going to be very, very, it's going to be a tough environment. environment for the for the sixes to come in and win i i'm i have to take the new york nix in this series uh it's not shocking to me the more that you talk through it but i still feel
Starting point is 01:44:02 pretty confident in joel and beaton just how he matches up against nix in terms of like his ability to elevate others around him just because of his presence and all the focus on being on him and at that point in time like we said earlier, it just relies, it just depends on how the other role players like Kelly Ubrey, Nick Batum, Tyrese, and all those guys decide to elevate. But I want to, I want to go with Philly. I want to go Philly. This is the year Joel Mee makes run, I'm sticking to it.
Starting point is 01:44:35 This is the first series today that I don't know what my thoughts are. You know, like usually I can have an opinion, even if I'm not super confident about it. I don't feel comfortable picking you these teams. I don't know. If I were to give you a choice, I would just be talking my ass and picking one. I feel so unbelievably 50-50 that, like, I'm going to flip a fucking coin at this rate. Like, they are so evenly matched, I think.
Starting point is 01:44:56 I don't know who to pick it all. You should pick the two-seat that has heart. Yeah, you should. And a guy and a guy who is in, like, precondition. Like, I know Joelle has played eight games and it's been great. But, and it's probably going to be. okay in the first round because the games aren't like back to back like that but playoff playoffs games are different and i want to see joel play a full series i don't i don't think he's
Starting point is 01:45:31 he's going to get hurt but i do wonder what it's going to be like going up against a very very tough team like the nix counterpoint 31 and eight with joel mbid yes the nix for the two seed yes they're playing great they're healthy the 70s pictures would be in that same mix if he didn't get hurt and now he's back looking completely far fine. It's not a normal 2-7. Like, it's extremely difficult. You're basically seeing two two-seat-level teams playing each other.
Starting point is 01:45:58 You're right. It's not a normal 27. Right? It's not, they're not a normal two-seat. They're one of the most dangerous two-seats to ever come in the NBA. This team can mess up everything in the Eastern Conference. You have a 64 team. I don't care. They can go into Boston. They can beat them. The same way, listen, everybody's
Starting point is 01:46:17 talking about the power of friendship for the we should be scared it's been transferred to the new york nix they literally have friends they have college roommates lifelong bonds they will put those three on brochures for villanova for years to come this is this is the deep and don't wait listen in the offseason when mckell bridges comes it's a championship next year all that sounds nice all that sounds great all that sounds like any Knicks fan's dream and fantasy. But a demon named Nick Nurse is going to walk into those doors and give you guys real nightmares, I believe.
Starting point is 01:46:56 Joel NB. Since he's been back, is averaging 30, 10, and 5, bro. And he's been in the normal, Joel and B., like you said, Isaac. And at this point in time, I just don't see a world in where the Knicks have enough bodies especially to keep up with him. you're going to really rely on a Hardenstein like that? You really?
Starting point is 01:47:17 Oh, see, that's how I know you haven't been watching. That's how I know you haven't been watching. I don't like that. No, but against Joelle and B he's going to be in foul trouble quick. That's a hard matcher for Hardenstein as much as I love him.
Starting point is 01:47:28 That's not easy at all. It's hard. It's hard. I forgot Joel N.B. plays, you know, insurance for our backs of the back. I did forget about that. He's going to be falling 25 times a quarter.
Starting point is 01:47:42 I will, I will bake that in. But you have, you have guys, you have Hardinstein, you have Robinson. If you need somebody to go take fouls,
Starting point is 01:47:50 Jericho Sims, you want to play in the playoffs, now was your time, right? You want to contribute to winning, take these six fouls against your L&B. That was your time.
Starting point is 01:47:59 It's going to be tough, man. But all right, it sounds as you guys are split. I don't have an answer. The chat is picking Nix 65%. So I guess we're going
Starting point is 01:48:06 with the Knicks as the official team of your prediction. Yeah. Shout out chat. Chat, you talk about selling this, selling that. You just sold this goddamn prediction bracket, bro.
Starting point is 01:48:19 All right, man. That is every first round pick, I mean, every first round series and play interment prediction. We covered them all. Listen, we'll see. Everybody revisit this once it's over. We'll see how we did. But now before we're not, the show is not over yet though. Don't go anywhere. Now we have
Starting point is 01:48:35 the most fun part of the show, I think. Donovan's debate of the day. Every episode, every stream, Donovan comes with one debate topic. and we go at it talking about it surely he'll be coming some more bullshit last time I was about cereal we'll see what you got this time but before that
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Starting point is 01:49:04 all right Donovan what is our debate of the day and is it about cinnamon toast crunch again it is not about cinnamon toast crunch I'm talking basketball today I think that the first round that the number one seed in each conference should get a buy.
Starting point is 01:49:20 Interesting. I think they should get a buy. I think that like, one, if you want to keep the playing the way that it is, fine, right? You have the nine and ten playing games. You want to give them a shot? Okay.
Starting point is 01:49:36 But I think that now that you have the top six, there should be even more of an incentive for the top team. to do that to like go ahead get get the one seed have have time off let all the other bums in the playing right be okay because you you expanded the field but there should really be a reward because like you're seeing with the nix and even with like the with the thunder like the thunder are going to have one of the best regular seasons in the league and their reward might be lebron james and anthony davis in the first because of because of the point what does the bracket look like
Starting point is 01:50:12 for the first seat don't the one and two seed have to have a buy for it to make sense do you expand it to a 10 team playoff well it's kind of it's kind of all already there i think i don't know how it would work necessarily i think you would just have a playing for the 7th seed so playing for the 7th seed okay so what does it look like because so what there's no 8 seat listen it's not 100% built out but yeah no it's it didn't So it was an L-Math? I think it's L-Math. I don't care if it's L-Math.
Starting point is 01:50:49 But yeah, so I get, yeah, there wouldn't be, there would not be an 8-C, but you would still have a plan for the seven-seat. I'll take. You'd rather remove the 8-C'd so the first round can get a buy and have a smaller playoffs? I do not think in an, we're in the area. 20 teams, 20 teams out of 30 are eligible to break the playoffs as currently constructed. 66% of the league.
Starting point is 01:51:12 That's eligible to make it. That's such a generous way to say it. 16 teams make it like 16 teams always have. And I think in the era we're seeing the most talent in the NBA. We've seen the most talent we've ever seen in the NBA right now. And your answer is to make less of them have a chance to win it all. I don't think that it's a punishment to get the one seed and play the Lakers. That's just fucking reality.
Starting point is 01:51:32 The league is as more talented as it ever has. I'd rather more teams that are that good have a chance than less. You've literally seen this year, you just, talked about it with the 76ers saying they're not a normal seven seat like stuff happens and the same way that like the league is more talented than it's ever been we see now you kind of have to just bake injuries in like serious injuries for a lot of the top players I feel like it's been a long time since we've had a very legitimate like healthy regular season where the top teams with all the best stars stay healthy for the entire way and somehow some team is going to fall to six
Starting point is 01:52:09 because the star missed three to four weeks and now they're going to be in the playing mix. But again, even at 16 teams, over, over half the league makes the playoffs. And that just seems like a lot. That just seems like a lot. Well, what do you think? If I'm looking at from just a straight financial standpoint,
Starting point is 01:52:31 they say stick to cereal. That's amazing. Yeah. Shut up to see. Yeah. yeah this is a this is a massive l um obviously the district seemed like wonky and then behind that like you're just ruining a whole aspect of fun in the NBA like we can't like you like you said we see okay see fight their ass off be the number one seed in their war is los angeles lakers
Starting point is 01:53:01 okay what if the lakers win do you know how much money will be made do you know all the narratives that could be gotten off for my glorious king lebron james that i could to talk about when I'm fucking 40 years old, bro. He beat a number one C team full of future legends like he did when he was like 26 years old back in Miami days. The narrators are going to go fucking ballistic. And then in terms of just like, you know, talking about all the talent in the league now, too, like, why would you not want to showcase your talent and, like, deduce it just because
Starting point is 01:53:32 you want to give the number one seat a pacifier and be like, okay, you did drop. A pacifier? You're making them really comfortable. what do you need a pacify you have okay this is this is my this is my legitimate question okay why do we play 82 games if if people if no but like the serious the serious reason is like if you are going to have this long long season and everybody else has incentives when they're like at the at the borderline or stuff like that teams we were literally talking about like like, oh, should this team, like, drop down from from one to two or, like, try to, you know,
Starting point is 01:54:14 try to, like, escape these, like, playing teams, this or that? Like, would it be better if you're in the three seats so you don't have to play the Lakers or the Warriors in the first round? I think that if you have this very long season, there should be a reward at the top because the only, like, you do get home court advantage throughout, but you still are at the same, like, from round to round. You are at the same quote-unquote advantage as everybody else after you just prove that you're better than every team in your conference.
Starting point is 01:54:43 Yeah, and like you said, home course the advantage and playing the weakest team. Like, not every year are we going to... This is the most stacked Western Conference you've ever seen. This is the first time in NBA history, we have 10 teams in the Western Conference for over 10 games, RBA over 500. That's never happened before. This is not a regular year. There's going to be plenty of years where the Bucks play the motherfucking Orlando Magic
Starting point is 01:55:00 in the first round and sweep them like we've seen in previous years. This isn't going to be how it is all the time. and I understand once you should get an advantage, and I think they do. I think home court advantage and playing the weakest team in the playoffs is perfectly fine. I don't think you need to, it doesn't, the regular season isn't justified anymore because the one seed gets this much easier for a path. I think having straight up no first round series goes from them being on better footing to it just being a ridiculous over-the-top advantage.
Starting point is 01:55:27 Like, NFL does that good for them. I don't think that makes them any better, you know? NFL does that and the MLB does that The only other league that doesn't do that is like the NHL But like if you are if you are Like if you are doing this I do think that it helps put like the one seed And in just that much more like
Starting point is 01:55:49 Valuable and I do obviously It does. It definitely definitely does And also Don't act like like when the playing came in And everybody was like oh no like these people are going to get the eight seed Like, don't act like you were out here fighting and be, and be like, oh, no, the ATS is so valuable. You're like, yo, they're going to get clapped anyways. Anytime that we go in and see people get the eight seed, the assumption is that they're going to get clapped anyways.
Starting point is 01:56:15 So why take that away? Why is it a big deal to make them not get a chance then? Like, if they should get clapped, it's not a huge disadvantage for the one seat. Because, because, again, it's the same, it's the same scenario as, it's two things. One, you can have a situation where the 76. Sixers now are the eight seed when that is not indicative of how they actually are because Joeline B. missed two, three months of the season. And then two, just like I think in the playing, you play 82 games and you are X amount of games behind the seven or eight seed. You should not
Starting point is 01:56:49 have an opportunity to compete for the playoffs at all. I think the same thing where if you are better than everybody else, if you have shown for 10 months that you have, that you have the best team, then you 100% should get a major advantage. Okay. So that's what I take it. It's going to pull in the chat. Yeah, there's definitely other ways. What's the other ways?
Starting point is 01:57:11 What's another way? Do you like the idea if people float out if they get to pick their first round matchup from the bottom teams? I think that would be fun. Yeah. I understand your point. I understand one to make the one team more valuable
Starting point is 01:57:24 and that's fine in principle. Giving less teams a chance to compete isn't the answer, though. There's no world in where that makes sense for anybody. I think, I think at the day, like you say, more talent, more teams should get a chance. Just because the 70s has something to get hurt and fell to the 8th scene. Your whole point is that the 76ers are so good
Starting point is 01:57:40 that they shouldn't get a chance. No, no, that's not my, that's not my point is not, it's not an advantage. But that's your example. You're saying, I mean, correct me from wrong, but it seems like you're saying, I know, no, but whatever. Let's say a team is super good in the 8th seed,
Starting point is 01:57:53 so it's not advantage of the one seed. That's like they should get a better chance and not be so unlucky to play a great team at the Lakers or 76ers in the bottom. tough that's how it worked out there's a lot of good teams like year to year that'll change i don't think that's a reason to make it so those teams don't have a chance it's not their fault are good even even if you have a situation this year where it is literally like kind of possible where the chicago bulls are the eighths hold on sorry someone's screaming most scratching his balls
Starting point is 01:58:21 right now no not no no no no no no no right now right now i'm not going to lie to you i am stretching out my goddamn calf this bitch is so sore I've been having the craziest calf cramps the last two days why the fuck am I walking around last night at 1 a.m. limping like I told my Achilles makes no sense
Starting point is 01:58:43 I'm only 24 years old and this shit is framed right now scratch allegations oh bro it's my calf bro those allegations are being I'm going to lie I was been a timeout buddy it was too funny though I was getting ready right there you were this close you're this close
Starting point is 01:59:00 so wasn't Isaac you're dirty for reading that comment I had to it's hilarious yeah what if I was this one it's really yawker I'm gonna be like oh get out of your pants what are you doing you're online kids are watching weird emotion is minding his own business getting strays Yeah, so we got 57% saying L take in the chat.
Starting point is 01:59:33 It was a lot worse earlier. They're coming around to it as you talk. It was at like 70%. So at least you got a small margin on your side. Listen. You got when you're right. And I understand not everybody can be as forward thinking. But, okay, one day everybody will come around.
Starting point is 01:59:51 All right. Shout out to Isaac Glazing for to ding $3.5. He's a congrats on 100 episodes, guys. Love you all. Keep it going. And tell Mo that watching movies at night is the real loser material. Go for a walk, man. Apparently, Mo's right. You'll go for a rock.
Starting point is 02:00:06 You can be going for a walk instead of that goddamn movie you're watching. What the hell are you talking about? Listen, somebody said, somebody said you're sniffing. Who me? You're sniffing. Yeah. They said you scratched and sniffed. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 02:00:19 That's crazy as though. Oh, no, that's crazy. Not only are you a scratcher, but you're also curious of the aftermath of the scratching. That's crazy. Shout to Easy Money, Trace. donating another $10, he said, what's the best sleeve jersey of all time? I fucking guess. I guess the black calves ones, but they're all shit.
Starting point is 02:00:34 Yeah, exactly. No, that one sucks. The Warriors have a very cool, like, white Chinese. Oh, okay, sure. Like, yeah, it was like a Chinese New Year one. That one was very cool. Yeah, that was fine. The Christmas ones are solid, too, I guess.
Starting point is 02:00:49 Comparatively. I mean, the competition is exactly stiff, you know, so I like the monocrobatic Christmas ones more than most of them. The Lakers have an all-white one. That's pretty cool. They do? Yeah, didn't they play that year? I think they got an all-white one. I don't remember that.
Starting point is 02:01:03 I don't remember an all-wile one for the Lakers. Kobe's, I mean, let me see. Kobe's sleeved jersey white. I believe so. Maybe I'm a yapper. Is this, maybe I'm a yapper. I don't know. Anyways, to the next donation.
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Starting point is 02:01:36 1,500 of you right now for the end of it a solid two hours good streaming chat good debating shout to y'all appreciate y'all stay tuned for the next episode we're going to obviously react to the playing tournament
Starting point is 02:01:48 in the next episode actually we won't see the last couple games because we're going to report on Thursday so the first round of the plan we'll be able to react to should be good Thank you.

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