The Deep 3 Podcast - Putting Every NBA Big 3 In A Tier List | TD3 Live

Episode Date: January 10, 2024

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biggest stories in the league today do all that it's going to be a good mixture of content today and as always at the end we're going to react your guys as hot takes I know you guys love that so be ready listen come with some good hot takes because last time there's a difference between hot takes and bad takes and a lot of times something I'll be putting some bad takes in here someone says you're not biased Isaac if you don't think the Lakers are going to be an

S tier you're in the wrong place I'll say that listen I will not be biased I'm a man of the people I will make sure that's not happening he's here oh most here let him into the chat there we go we got mow in the building he's out the hood he figured it out the camera's working

we're good we are recording I just had to hop in and hop out, boy, we back in this space. What I miss? Nothing, nothing. Also, I see a couple of y'all asking if the stream is now on Tuesday, like, permanently. No, we moved it from yesterday to today because we forgot that the national championship game was yesterday. Wasn't trying to go head to head with that.

But we will be back next Monday continuously. That's what we're going to keep doing. Yeah, it'll be Mondays. It's just, you know, National Championship game is something so big. You got to move out the way. You're not going to compete with that. But while you were talking, shout out to Raff BG for donating $3. He said, love the pod.

This is the first time watching it live. Keep it up. We appreciate you. Appreciate you, game. Do you guys want to go ahead and get started? Let's roll. What's in the news? All right, man.

First thing we're going to do, as you always do, it's news time. We got our trusty dandy Google Doc here. We're going to go through all the biggest things. As you guys see, at the top of that dock, got some bad news. John Morant is out for the rest of the season. Timetrius Timetrius Listen we missed him

25 games He was out of here He came back Played 9 They went 6 and 3 He turned the team around And now he's done Just like that

Ah Where were y'all When you found out I was in the car man I was in the car I was driving somewhere Immediately had to pull over Right

Give people Instant TikTok reaction You know what I'm saying But no it was It was terrible man I I'm so sad because it's just like

I thought that the Grizzlies had a legitimate chance to come back into the playing fold into the playoff fold which I they were six and three with him they were you know started off 4 and 0 he missed a couple games you know after that but like they looked solid again

they looked good and they looked like they had hope and now it's just just over like so fast shit felt like a shotgun to the goddamn chest if you ask me I was over here sitting down and join in my victorious Monday night.

I had some Chinese food across the street was fucking fire and I'm sitting here on Twitter and I see Chavaran out torn labor what the hell is going on see out he's out for the entirety

of the season and I'm like shit and then I go ahead log on to TikTok and I see one of my trusted sources Donovan Smoot on TikTok gaping it up about what this means for the brisies and all those other stuff

and all the perspectives. And, bro, you can't feel nothing but just like sadness and just pain for Grizzies fan because it's just the most unexpected thing earlier this season. Well, while he's played through the nine games, I believe they are six and three with him. And he truly transformed their offense, got everyone. He's been getting everyone a hell of good looks and shit like that. So it's sad and it sucks. But Grizzies fans, it's okay.

Some said, bro, you're acting like somebody died? The Grizzly season died. It was one less team to watch because they're going to be irrelevant. They just lost all hopes. It sucks whenever you have a team with a superstar and you effectively waste a year. You only get so many years of a core together in their championship window, having it be wide open. It sucks when one of those are gone. Now, I say championship window.

None of us pick the Grizzlies to do anything before the year, even without Jaw being suspended. But, you know, it's one of the years you have Jah, Bain, and Jaron Jackson, all with the good supporting cast around them. It's not fun to lose that. You know what I mean? yeah and i so i i had this perspective yesterday and because i've been thinking a lot about how just like you have to build a team in the modern era right especially with the way that like the suns are looking and this all in three superstars like that's not necessarily an automatic championship anymore i was thinking like okay let's say that the grizzlies suck for the rest

of the year which we are pretty confident that they're going to do they're probably going to end up and they could end up with like a top five draft pick and that's probably where like their next jumping off point is like i think that low key this could be a very good thing for the grizzlies because now they're going to get a top five pick and they're going to be able to add that to a core of jah bane and jaron jackson junior who already have their money who already are running the salary cap up to its limit and now you have the potential of getting like a potential potential really, really good player on the low for cheap for the next, you know, four or five years. 100%. And that's the silver lining, right? Like, you don't like to lose a season, but having this type of thing happen and being able to reload the asset chamber is incredibly helpful long term.

Like you said, right now there's six and odds. And they're not going to get much higher than six. They have a two and a half game gap between Portland, Charlotte and the rest of them. Maybe they can catch up to Portland if Portland starts winning games, but they're not getting into that top four. That top four is pretty shitty. So even if they do stay here and they have the six best odds, we've seen playing teams jump in the top four from there. The Warriors game James Wiseman is because they drop, jumped from six to two. So they can say it's a huge opportunity. As a Hawks fan, my life couldn't have gone even fucking worse, man. My life was supposed to be easy.

I thought we were going to make the playoffs? No, apparently we're not going to do that. We're probably not even going to make the playing. Who knows? And now I'm over here sending myself, okay, values and expectations. Let's readjust them, realign the sights realign the sights real quick. Like, okay, maybe we can go ahead and sneak into the top five, top six of the NBA lottery draft. And now, like, those hopes are just absolutely selected because I don't know if it can be worse than the Memphis Grizzins.

I was wondering why the fuck you're talking about the Hawks right now. I was like, who cares? We're talking about John Morant. And then I realize Hawks are at seven right now in this tankathon list. They have the seventh best odds of getting the number one pick. That's just terrible. Press the Sim lottery button. Let's see if we get the Hawks into the top five.

In the chat right now, comment, who you think is going to get this lottery? If we get top three, I'm bug shaking in this bitch immediately. I got the ISO can ready to go. Three, two, one. We got Washington move up to one, San Antonio two, Portland three. Atlanta drops to eight, Memphis drops to seven. This would be a very interesting outcome. That would be crazy if Washington got the number one pick.

In San Antonio got the number two pick with Wemby. That's how you build some generations. Contending. So curse, bro. Oh, my gosh. But yeah. Like Isaac said, though. Yeah.

But like Isaac said, this is, like the Warriors fumbled, you know, whenever they picked James Wiseman. But if they were able to get, like, if James Wiseman had panned out and become a legitimate NBA player, and you could have added that to the core of Steph Clay Dremont, you could have extended the dynasty for at least another two years. Like, we wouldn't be at this point. And so for Memphis, it was already a weird year with y'all coming back.

You get a fresh start next year. You still have Jared Jackson, Jr., Desmond Bain, and the potentially somebody who fits perfectly into exactly what you need. Listen, they might be scary next year. I miss a donation. From Don's dad, Kauai would be an MVP candidate if he didn't set out half the season. Sir, Kauai Leonard has missed like two games this year. He has been playing.

He's been about it. Is he an MVP candidate? No, but he's been really good. they're winning a lot of games so shout out to the glippers yeah i think hawai lenders one of those he's one of the rare cases where this dude is going to retire as like a top 30 NBA player ever when it comes to having a regular season MVP he will not even sniff those conversations whatsoever just because the type of player that he is and he just doesn't have that wow factor on a consistent basis through the regular season yeah someone said real talk should i buy a 120 pack of crayons

or get moa at the hood always the crayons go with the crayons mo we what the hell man but there's no rush there's no rush it's crazy yeah man any of the thoughts on the john moran thing any other angles not not really i i don't i think we all just kind of agree like it sucks that we can't see job this year there's you know a small silver lining but i mean you just got to hope that that the ping pong balls rolling your favor yeah exactly to be exactly i agree there's no other way to look at it and honestly like don't know what i don't say this is the best possible scenario that's going to happen but there's always light in any situation that you look into and in this situation adding a top lottery pick or deciding to flip a lottery pick into whatever

Using hindsight, or in the future, using hindsight, it will be the best outcome possible for this. Yeah, it'll be good in the long run. Let's move on to the second thing. Also, real quick, lasting on this, it could be worse because you could be the Detroit Pistons, right? Before we came on, Isaac and I, we were looking at the scores. The Pistons without Cade Cunningham tonight,

scored 47 points in the first quarter against the Sacramento Kings. Kings are ass on that game. And the Kings are up three. They are up three at halftime of that game. The Pistons are terrible. Wait, wait, wait. The Kings are up three now? Yeah, I'm so serious.

Bro. I'm so serious. Chat. For y'all that don't know, before the stream started like five minutes or four, we were talking about this game. The Kings were down by 17, and I told Donovan to go bet on the Kings to win because the Pistons can't keep you. You put your rent.

You weren't money on here. Oh, my God, Donovan. You're cooked. No. No, no, we won. I put money on the king. Kings. Oh.

And they came back. They're out by three. In the same quarter. They scored 39 in the second quarter. They're up by three now. And they're going to run away with this game because the pissings don't have Cade. Listen, that was the easiest. I have rent for the next, what, like two years.

I won't. Yeah, man. This is pitiful. Also, magic down by 30 to the Timberwolves. 37 points at halftime. What are the magic on? Oh my gosh. God, that's good.

I know you've seen the other score. I know you see the other score. The New York Knicks with O.J. and Nobby refused to lose. Yeah, well, we're going to do that. We're here, right? Understand, this is what championship basketball looks like, okay? Oh, my goodness. Went into Philly, stomped and beat it.

Something boards out. Someone in the chat, turboblazers. Turbo bulldozer said who would win in a five between you three? I'm throwing elbows. I'm being the shit out of them. I'm sorry. Good luck beating my. crowbar, buddy.

You're ready to speak hospital, bud. Next story. On the same night that John Morant got hurt, so did Tyreys Halliburton. But thankfully his was nowhere near as serious, despite how bad it looked. He's going to miss about two weeks at least

and then we're reevaluate him. Yeah. This is, again, it sucks, but thankfully it could have been worse. It's interesting because if we look at the NBA standings right now, let me refresh his page, there is currently, well, there is currently a one, two, three, four, five team tie for the four seed.

It's a bloodbath. The pace is of one of those teams. And if, when Tyrese misses games, they fucking suck, bro. They are awful. T.J. McConnell does not walk through those doors and produce wins, as you'd expect. That would make you think they're probably going to drop to the bottom of that race and be, like, out of that race for the four seed and probably be closer to seven or eight. It makes things interesting for all these teams that are competing for home court advantage. yeah exactly man um when i was watching this game yesterday

tyrese halliburn actually ended up slipping twice i don't know if it's the shoes i don't know if tyrese needs to be on the same type of timing that yonis is on when it comes to harassing all the employees because my boy was not doing his job apparently that night um so with that being said i don't know how they're going to survive with uh with this insane little to no error race that they're in right now. Yeah, the answer is they're not. They're going to fall out of this race for the four seed and they're fucked.

This is exactly what happened last year in that the Pacers were playing fantastic. They were the four seed. Tyrese gets hurt. And then they fall out of playing race. And so it sucks for them that like it's going to be different this time because Tyrese probably and I guess hopefully isn't going to be out as long as that. but two weeks

like in a five-way tie is that's playing range right you're going to have to go on a six seven game winning streak to get out of the plane to get back into the top six and I don't know if that's going to happen for them someone's opposed by the call his rat army to jump

Isaac facts I got the forces on my side underrated a weapon in the arsenal the facts the Pacers if if Tyrese misses two weeks that's probably about seven or eight games. Oh, we got a donation. A-Y-A-N, I guess I-N. He tipped us $10. We appreciate you.

He said, Crayon Eaters, rejoice. And Isaac, how does it feel that your Lakers team looks really bad right now? Listen, talking about that length over the recent weeks. It doesn't feel good. As you'd expect, it feels pretty bad. But over the last couple of games, I think Darwin-Ham has started to correct some of the mistakes they've been making, and they've looked better. They'd just beat the Clippers before that. They should have beat the Grizzlies, but they folded in the fourth quarter. but overall it was a decent game I'm starting to feel a little bit better we're starting to see less ridiculous lineups we're starting to see just better coaching from Darvinham

do I think this team can be a contender anymore no are they going to be better than like the worst team in the league for the two weeks I think so man get Zach Levine on the phone get Zach Levine on the phone they need him they need Jack Devin I'm I'm done seeing what the Lakers have to offer with this current lineup

just go get Zach get a score get somebody who could get their own but i'm convincing my 39 year old lebrun doesn't have to do it himself listen i'm over here convincing myself that a jante murray would make sense i'm in that mooh let's go let's go destroyed our ears damn you're a loud ass jesus christ you've been rejecting the dejante your entire life and i'm so happy that you've come to see the light you'll go ahead and fix You don't even like you. Maybe not all.

It's not about, I don't like my own team, the entirety of my team. All right, let's correct that. The entire Helena Hawks infrastructure is broken, trash, crack. We're not talking about right now. I think DeJante will help the Lakers in numerous ways. If there's no way that you add someone like DeJante who's playing alongside LeBron and AD, and they just need capable basketball players who can help them piece together and find some type of identity. And I think Desontee Murray is the best guard available,

who will help get you closer to what you want to be. Okay. I'm so happy for you. Well, I guess we can, we sure have for me. He's not a Laker. He's not a Laker right now.

He will be, buddy. You're trying to run a scam, Mo. I know people like you. You're trying to get, you're trying to flip DeJante Murray while the value is at the top. I play fantasy football. I know that I give the speech

that you just gave. I give that every week. Every week I get that in fantasy football. ball right you lost everything i hear one you want the you want the swaggy white boy in your team i see what you're trying to angle for all right now listen if we if you want if you want dejante mary we have to be talking about it 2031 pick oh shit whatever 30 anyway like that did not say murray's been the news for multiple reasons obviously he was linked to the sixers and the lakers early on in the past couple weeks now there's a report yesterday from shams

that the spurs are interested in him which is honestly hilarious for obvious reasons right they traded him to the hawks a couple years ago they sold at the absolute peak they got three first-on picks with this guy a king's ransom from a team that was desperate to make a move and it was clearly the wrong move I would go out here and say this if they trade de jonte for three first-round picks

and then get him back for less than they paid fucking heist that would be amazing that'd be hilarious just of the fact they finesse the shit out of the hawks and won entirely I would love that one thing that I ain't a lie that was easily one of the most disrespectful

rumors have heard to come out in the last five years. Tell me you're interested in trading for Desonte Murray when you see us at our absolute lowest, our most down bad moment in the Tray Young era, that's crazy as hell. Obviously, you'll be a good fit there, but this cannot happen. If this was to happen, the Hawks would have to, I might have to, like, not be a Hawks fan for the rest of the year until they get this shit together, bro. It will be ridiculous. I would love this.

Anyway, so the teams he's linked to now, Lakers. Sixers, Spurs. Sees real likely that Jeanette's going to get traded. Which team do you think would make the most sense for him? I think I think

I think he would kill any type of successful, like, offense that the Lakers would have. I think he fits out of those three, I guess San Antonio makes the most sense. They need a point guard.

They need somebody who's good with the ball in their hands. um but it just it doesn't make sense on paper in my head why why would the lakers want to go out and get dejante murray because he's not i don't know good i don't know what it is but dzante murray has carried on the stigma that he's like obviously throughout his entirety of the career he's never been a real shoot or anything like that but this season he's turned the corner clearly turned the page and he's shooting he's he has a legitimate jump shot now, although it's not his

M.O. necessarily, but you can't deny six three-point intents per game shooting on a 30% clip. Like, he's a legit shooter, and he immediately be one of the best shooters on the Los Angeles Lakers. Now, that's not much to be said because the Lakers don't got no shooters like that. You would probably be one of the five best shooters

just watching this right now on the Los Angeles Lakers if you're on the roster. But with that, but with that being said, he adds another element of getting easy buckets, and the Lakers are one of the worst offenses in the entire NBA. I think they're 23rd or 22nd or something like that. And that's just not a recipe for any type of success. And you have to imagine that Desaunate Murray, who was one of the youngest

all-NBA defenders a couple years ago, like 2018 or 2020 or whatever it was, you have to imagine that he regains that same defensive identity once he's in that same. Yeah, you do. I mean, it's a fair assumption. Why? We witnessed some like OG, I don't know, we, not put in his absolute heart or put in his best forth when he was with the Toronto the job the entire of the season but now when he's on your mix

he's been the regular tenacious Ogena Novi that we've all loved and love to see so it's like that seems like he has to be a boy yeah he has you can't say because Ogini Anobi was mainly getting on defense for a month

because he knew he was going to get traded and now he's back to trying hard because it happened Dejante's been overrated as fuck defensively for a year and a half It's been since you got to the Hawks, he has not been that level of the one-year wonder he had with the All-Star season with the Spurs.

You can't just assume he's going to get better because a lot of young players start off being great defenders and as they get older, get more offensive utility, get more of an ego based around them being an All-Star and a ball handler. They stopped trying so hard on defense. I would love for it to happen, like you said. And if that happens in the Lakers uniform, great. It would be nice to have that defensive personnel at the point guard.

You can't assume it's going to happen, though. Like, it's not always a set in stone. Yeah, you're right. When stars do, like, make that next level, they tend to waver off on that end. But I think two things can be true at once. And if he has someone like LeBron down his back and AD behind him, too, when he's, like, I just think it's a lot easier for him to lock in from that mindset, especially when you don't have to do as much caring on the offensive man

compared to having to do a whole lot next to Tray Young, which just produces nothing at the end of the day. So I just have an entirely different perspective. I think he's a perfect, to be honest with me. perfect fit is certainly not perfect but he is they can make it work for if they wanted to exactly as we want to the next story draymond green got reinstated into the league he served his suspension finished off being around 12 games and after that he went on a podcast he that was an announcement of return he went in on a podcast episode and he said that he considered retiring he said he had the conversation and everything was becoming to be too much and he told adam silver he wants to retire and adam silver convinced him not

to saying that he won't let him make this big mistake essentially most they told draymond is so devious because he just wants to he just wants him to come back so he can suspend him again like he said bro you can't be punching people you got you got to you know tighten up and he's like fuck that I quit if I can't be rules can be me anymore man but it's an NBA that I love yeah yeah man obviously dramatic He's capping his ass off. He just signed a $100 million contract. He was never going to retire, like, get out of here.

But, you know, I believe that it's a lot, that it's like, it was stressful. But, you know, you reap what you sew. You throw a lot of punches. You get some punishment, and it's not going to be a fun time. I want to know. He said, listen, he, not only did he say that. He said that Steve Curry came over to the crib. Both of them were crying, right?

Because it was, like, just a very emotional thing. I don't care about all that. I need to know what Steph Curry was saying, right? We have not heard about Steph Curry and Draymond Green, people like that. I need Steph Curry to be like, please help me. Do you see what's around me and you want to come here and punch people every two weeks? Get it together. I need to know what Steph said.

That's what we need to know. Matthew donated $5. He said, what's the over under on games until Draymond commits another assault? Thank you for the $5, Matthew. 39 and a half. He'll do it in going into the. playoffs you'll think that everything is fine and then draymond's going to do it he's going to do something stupid and then going into like game one or game two we're going to be

oh my gosh jremont going to be suspended like the words they're going to be down 1-0 in the series they're not going to have draymond it's it's going to happen yeah he has one he's one more punch left in them i will say i watched the main clip in the pod it seemed rather genuine that he like it was an apology that wasn't terrible it's just a funny line like i was going to retire too much like be fucking for real he did did seem like he understands he fucked up when he's to reel it in we'll see if the actions follow that's you know never has in his career and he's never been the type of guy that wants to say i did something wrong i should change so i'm uh we'll see also funny comment marga

gomez just said i like how mo and isa actually have good lighting and then there's donovan with the dad's zoom meeting set up Isaac was telling me right before we got on that like that my background was looking mad residential down-to-earth content all right i'm meeting you where you're at it's not a massive setup okay i just gives me corporate lives for real i want to give you guys my thoughts and that's it i have a little bit of artwork in the back i'm still festive i'm pointing on the wrong side because i don't know left or right but i have art and a christmas tree what more do you want from right right now the stream has 358 likes 909 of you in here right now

run those likes up for us get this up to 900 likes like we have people in the chat and maybe in the same way we can get moa at the hood we can get donovan some lighting we can get them a setup that's a background that makes them look at a streamer we need you to get that to us one like at a time yeah they're saying that i'm that i'm in the hood now no i wish i was there audio video is my stuff unsinked you should don't know you're not at the internet sucks. It's always unsinked on the stream. That's crazy. I'm on Ethernet, bro. I'm trying my face.

He's trying my nose too. Oh, man. The unsynced audio tops it off. Facts he's in the hood. We can move on. Jemann, you weren't fin to retire, but good for him on maybe understanding where he went wrong.

Next time, next thing, we got to jump in to some Pascal Seacum rumors. O's reported that the Raptors were having serious talk. to send him to the Sacramento Kings and then like two hours later Shams said the Kings are deciding to pull out of the Pascal Siakum talks Word on the street is Siakum told him he's not gonna resign there and that's why they said

we're not gonna go back says because he's not gonna want to stay this summer I find this whole thing hilarious because Pascal Seacom is begging for them not to trade them he wants to stay in Toronto so bad he's telling these days I won't stay with now and it's hilarious a couple during the off season this genuinely made sense as to why you want to stay in Toronto you you could talk yourself into the massive delusion that he would be an all-NBA player again. But that just requires an amazing season along with that. Your team has to actually make some type of noise.

And we all know the raptors weren't going to be on none for real. And so for him to want to stay in Toronto in order to make the LNBA, which behind that is like, I'm a super max player, which is like the big thing behind it. It's just insane. And now that, yeah, man, now that, like, it's clear as you that it's not going to happen. What is keeping you in Toronto? I don't know, man. It's a cool city.

To fire city. Shout out to World Be Flat for donating $10. He said, hey, guys, thanks for making my week easier. I'm a factory worker doing 70-hour weeks, seen every pod episode. And now every episode that comes out makes a life a little easier. I got to get ready for work, but can't wait to watch the rest of this. Peace. Thank you, man.

Appreciate your World Be Flat. Shout up to you from the work in. You're much harder working than we are. I'll tell you that over here talking to cameras. Your life is much harder than ours, so we appreciate you, man. Shout out to you, man. Someone said Don looks so good. Listen, we got people compensating for me making fun of you,

bigging you up, Donovan. I don't. They said it looks like I was at Mo's house. That's crazy. Listen, I have no rats on this side. Don't get it. I have no rats. It's just hilarious, man, it's the worth of 486 likes 9706 of you in here all I say is that ratio doesn't match

You know what I want you to do y'all need to run it up and I'm talking to you right now right now young man Leave the like as we speak but question to you guys if you were to see Pascal see I can trade it somewhere where would it be Up to me or where I think it's happened or what I'd like for dabbing both Two quick answers that's not be similar pacer I think the Pacers need to get him. Pairing him with Tyrese Halliburton makes so much sense to me. I think when you have a guard like Tyrese and you already have a stretch five,

you can afford to have a big at the four who doesn't have to be the best baser in the world. And not to say Siakum isn't, he's a good shooter. But predominantly he's really good working mid-range, attacking the rim. He's not like a Microport Jr. type of spacer. And I think this is the perfect scenario for him to go to a place where he doesn't need to be that. He can full-on be the rangey defender, solid playmaker from the four, attacking the rim. kind of compliment both what they have of the one in five. I think it's perfect.

I need to see them in Dallas. The maps have had a revolving door in the front court for years now. For some reason, right, they have had so little talent that Dwight Powell has just been able to stay around for a year. Go get somebody at the four who has all NBA talent, somebody who you can legitimately pair with Luca and Karee and actually form a big three. Like, let's get that going.

a lot of people were saying thunder in the chat i get that he'd be good fit there i think uh there's been a lot of talk about should the thunder make a big move maybe they're not looking to make him another star move i don't think they would make them move for siakum especially to him being a looming free agent i think they would just hold their cards and stick with what they have but their biggest flaw right now is not having a four they got jdub a college point guard supposed to be shooting guard in the NBA playing power forward so it would be a good fit

yeah exactly i just read the funniest comment of the night strike next says yo Been watching y'all boys since 2020. What are you talking about 2020? Capper! We just started making videos like last year. Fad! Yeah, when we started. This channel was made in July of 2022, or 23.

Yeah, exactly. 22, 22. Yeah, we've been out for a year and a half now. There you go. Yeah, exactly. But back to OKC, I don't think it'll necessarily make sense. So what's been watching since 1996? yeah that's crazy

none of us are born in 96 what the hell there were particles back then that was a thought but yeah okay see doesn't really make sense at all and other than that

I really wanted to see the Sacramento things the Sacramento King's thing happened because it's a perfect fit he's a terrific defender and that's what they need and then alongside of that you can imagine a world where his offense

can eventually find this place with their pace and space and all that so it said that it didn't work out I'm curious to see what eventually does yeah yeah I kind of have a feeling like I don't know if they're even in him doing a trade for him like maybe

with the fact that he's expiring the market's going to be so weak I hope they make a trade for him but I'm not getting my I don't hold my breath or anything yeah next story John the Cominga thinks Steve Kerr is just a can sir. He hates this guy. There was a game last week where they lost, they blew a 20-point lead

to the Denver Nuggets. John the Cominga didn't play for the last 18 minutes of the game. Steve Currie said he didn't have a chance to add him back into the game, the rotations didn't allow for it, whatever. The morning after, John the Cominga picked up the phone, said, Shams, I hate this motherfucker. He does not want to play. This is a bitch!

He's playing with my money. I'm sick of this shit. And we got this report. It's a whole story where John of the Cominga isn't happy with his minutes load. Doesn't feel like Steve Kerr is going to allow him to reach his full potential. Same day, Moses Moody, there was also a leak that he was also not happy with it. That was less official, but there's trouble

in the neighborhood in Golden State. The Young Corps is not happy. Moody said, hold up. I agree with you. Send that report in to him, tag money more. Another one. I love that, me. Yeah, man.

He goes to-moop. I don't feel like we've seen. The fraud is so ridiculous. He acted like he made the deluxe album. He's like, you know what? I appreciate you going on this ride with me. He'll go too more for y'all.

Yeah, man. The Warriors have been trying to do this two timeline thing, as we know. Try to be contending currently around their big three while drafting the young players to, you know, like culminate the next generation post-deaf. Listen, they got the title. 22, it all worked out perfectly. They got perfect health in the role.

players, you know, the Nuggets weren't healthy, everything worked out and they were able to win. Since then, nothing about this young corps has worked out well. We got two new rookies in Jackson Davis and Pajemski jumping over the young core that was previously there. Kamega's not getting minutes, Moons is not getting minutes, Wisen's playing in Afghanistan. It's just been a total failure from what could have been like an ultimate opportunity to rebuild. What do you all, how are you all feeling about this? Well, I mean, part of bringing a young core together is actually playing the young core and Steve Kerr just never wants to he whatever happened in COVID right in those years he just never believed in right like that season and the season after he's like hey

I just don't rock with you guys and I'm just not going to play you and it's it's a hundred percent understandable why Kaminga and Moody feel like that because there have been times over the years but they've come in and they've actually been productive and Steve Kerr just refuses to reward them with more playing time like Kaminga so he's having just having just just he's going crazy he cut his cornrows right with no lineup too man Isaac can you please bring up that thing he was he was going ahead and yeah he went ahead and cut his corn rolls or dreds or whatever he had going on and he showed to the game unleashed it like these and he had the most the lineup was bad he didn't even bother to go to life he didn't bother to go

to the barbershop bro it was ridiculous yeah he did him too he cut his head and his wills looking crazy. I go like, that's how my mom had me showing up to school back when I was in fifth grade and kids just smacked the shit out of my head when I was young guy. Now I'm bad as hell. It was even worse because I had a shiny, God.

Yeah, man. I totally understand why Camino wanted to get out of here. I saw a tweet that put it really in perspective that made me realize, like, you know, a lot of these players in NBA, we're in an age of AAU ball where these players are like, you know, bred to be basketball players.

They've grown their whole life playing basketball since they were 12 playing in these circuits. and like that's kind of become the norm in the NBA, right? Kaminga came from overseas coming up in Africa and moved to the country and left his whole family behind for this opportunity and he just has to sit on the bench and watch Steve Kerr not let him play

while he's trying to earn a career that makes it worth leaving his family for the last five years I would be pissed too. He said, send me to Santa Cruz where I can average 50 points a game in the G League. At least let me do that because this is ridiculous. Like it's crazy.

So many, yeah, I agree with you guys. When it comes to, like, assessing the Warriors, there's so many different layers to the conversation. Part of the layers, you have to go back in time when they drafted James Wiseman, and you have to look at, you have to reevaluate their entire drafting process and they're scouting, and I think it's been down at hell. So there's one part of it. Another conversation is like Steve Kerr and the real issue,

or maybe not an issue, but just a hole in his game when it comes to overall coaching. Part of coaching is putting your players in the best position to win, of course, as usual. But also another part is, like, empowering your young players and eventually acclimating them to up to a certain speed. And he hasn't allowed his young players to even do that. We don't know what they are still. And they've been in the NBA since 2021. So it's like to have those two young players, Moody and Kaminga, just be, like, huge question marks is an insane red flag for the type of coaching philosophy that Steve Kerr. has so yeah they can't I think talent it is what it is exactly bro and it's even worse when you have

talent I think we all believe like they're good players Moses moody and John the comminga but we know that they probably could have went like multitude of other ways alongside like that 2020 NBA drastic too someone said just comminga and donovan have the same cut nah let's not do that now I take a stand I take a stand for Donna we're not doing that Now we're not doing that. Listen, when I start wearing hats on the stream, you guys understand why. T3 hats coming soon. I'm in between cuts.

I'm in between cuts, man. Wait for the merch drop. New hats coming soon. Wait till I get this in it. Listen, you know that I'm anti. There will be, there will come a point in my life where I end up getting like the enhancements consistently, right? I told you I about that one time. But until that day, I'm derma stamping.

I'm getting all the rosemary oil. We're getting this hairline here, right? I'm getting this kind of re-line I'm letting you know that right now I will be in Turkey in like two years from now I put this on God my dad went bald

like 29 or 28 something outrageous bro I'm 24 I'm 24 right now they're spamming up they're spamming up Mo in the chat right now shout out the Mo moving keep spamming up Moe

I don't know why we're doing it but let it rock oh we got donation DQ said tip three dollars appreciate you man funds going straight to get a Moe at the hood probably for his future hair implants he said the warriors selected lamello over wise men

the warriors selected camingo over franz wagner the warriors selected moody over trey murphy and sangoon they messed up big time facts as you guys see you right now i haven't pulled up actually perfect timing we have the entire list of golden state warriors draft picks this shit is not pretty it's terrible their last quality draft pick was fucking kavan mooney and that was when we were all like freshman in high school bro you can you can you can you say Jordan pool too but Patrick McCaw was who been let's go let's go Jordan Bell on the short one in the G-lea today Jordan Bell on the short role in 2018 Eric Pascal moves here kind of nice there Pascal had two weeks where he was

fucking him I remember that that year they were tanking he was him all right man so 2023 first on pick pods seems to be a hit we'll see if it holds up second round pick Tracy Jackson Davis Their best pick in years That's a steeled draft at pick 57 Good for them That's a good scouting opportunity From Indiana University Bloomington

What the fuck is that After that man Previous year Patrick Baldwin Jr. I don't remember a single discernible thing About his game And I watch a lot of fucking basketball Patrick Baldwin Jr.

I can't remember what he looks like Ryan Rawlins Who just got cut by the pistons Uh Joey Santos That must be a stash guy Because I don't know who the fuck that is John the Camingo

Moses Moody James Wiseman I look good dude it's looking like you have 1.5 good players there and that's why Bob Myers walked out eventually they're going to start pointing the finger at me I don't really want to go through that

so I'm just going to go on TV make everybody like me again and I'll be okay Jonathan Caminga oh that's so bad it's so bad go find that hat while you're finding a hat

Let's talk about what the Warriors actually should have done. If I was to go to State Warriors' DM back in the year 2021, 2020, the championship year two, I probably would have, I probably would have packaged Kaminga and... Y'all are mean. Y'all are mean. It's crazy. Boy, is asking a submission.

What the Warriors should have done is fucking... took the opportunity and took the opportunity of comming and moody having super high value and whatever left of james wiseman high someone else finesse someone that's for someone else swindle someone else and maximize on the value that you can that you like they can reap back you know because yeah names back then that were consistently throwing around were guys like miles turner and whatever else you can think of and that and with a name like that i'm sure we can assume that they wouldn't be in this bad of a situation. Not to say Miles' turn, it would be their savior or anything like that,

but they wouldn't be as down bad. Yeah, man. Not looking good. We can move on. Not looking good for the Golden State Warriors. What else we got on here? Oh, yeah. Speaking of not looking good for the Warriors, one more story.

Chris Paul's hand is broken. He's gone for 46 weeks. It's about that time of the year where Chris Paul has to get hurt. it happens every year we just don't know what type of injury is going to be this sucks though this is actually like

puts them down horrendously hey man they're already struggling like they're already not having an effective season they're currently it's pull up these standings currently sitting smooth in the 12 seed and now they have six weeks potentially with no Chris Paul who hasn't been great but you know

they'll take what they can get they don't have a whole lot of other options there it's just you know the the winter rain it pours right like they just had nothing but turmoil this year and it's another step there he might this might be the end of his career in the in the golden state warriors uniform because the trade line's coming up and he's easily their most movable salary he might be cooked this is sad man he's definitely cooked and at this point it was always probably going to be like a salary dump wherever he went there's there's no other choice right because if you are a team now

and you're looking at Chris Paul, like, you can't, you broke your hand? Like, what type of mess is this? Like, he can't go anywhere and be expected to actually contribute to what they're doing just because of his age and his health. So he is probably going to be in a terrible situation wherever he gets traded. He probably didn't get traded and bought out, honestly, and he's an assignment of the contender. This man has Lakers written all over him. He has

Orlando Magic He's going back to Phoenix Type shit, that'd be crazy Make him a little Milwaukee Buckman They need it What's it? Why would they need Chris Paul?

Coming off the bench? Who do they have Coming off the bench for them right now? I guess They need defenders They need defenders Not geriatric point guards They need anything

Someone said I look like Bobby Fortis with Devon eyeballs That's so crazy to say It's not even That's hilarious All right y'all 45 minutes in

We ran through the news stories I think it's time For what the title Brought you all for It's time for our tier list We're gonna put Every team's big three Into a tier list

As you see here I got to pull up With all the logos For every team I could have put the faces Of all the big threes But that would have taken me Forever to put 90 faces

In the Photoshop In groups of three And export them to 30 pictures Wasn't going to do that So we're just going to have to agree on who their big three is and y'all got to remember we'll talk through it

yeah man real simple every big three in the league put into a tier list do you guys want to base this off of long-term value and like now let's do it now

now is more fun right now right now with trio is better great and listen we're just going to be fun this is the first time we're doing a tier list with the chat so I'm going to do plenty of polls

and see what you guys think too let's go in order it's here first one here is your Lando Magic. Their big two is Palo and Franz Wagner. Who are we counting as a third guy? The third guy should have been Wendell Carter Jr., but he's been in and out this season. He just got hurt again recently, and they still have been, like, thriving.

Goga Badate has been looking really nice, which is really awkward. Mo Wagner is a killer, one of the best bench centers in the entire NBA. So I think Dylan Suggs might need to take that position because he has been like, one of the X factors that team This New York man wants to go with Coe Anthony Yeah No, let's go Jaylen sucks I'm not Jason

Let's go let's go Corey Anthony No No No No He probably makes the most sense Like you said It would have been Wendell

But he's kind of like Had a weird up and down season He's on a trade block now apparently So let's say it sucks Because he's probably the most impactful To their identity as a team As a strong defensive team He's Mike

He's the face of the franchise Put everybody on on TikTok I mean he has great charisma He has great charisma I would agree with that But face of the franchise Yikes I see y'all spam it up y'all spam and see

Is this a C tier Big Three If Jalen Suggs is in your big three yes Okay Yeah it's a C tier big three Let's be honest All right well barely any They're barely all stars

Palibankero Franz Wagner Jalen Suggs Welcome to the C tier The chat has spoken Here should be our rule moving forward Like listen we're doing big threes As the like thought exercise if we actually wouldn't call you a big three

like Suggs, Van Kero and Wagner, those are just the three best players on the magic. They're not a big three. If you are not actually a big three, you can't be B or above. What's an actual big three? Clarifying that.

We'll talk about it. But like if it's like a duo and you have to throw somebody in there, that's not a big three at all. Gotcha. Okay. Chat, we're done with them. Dallas Mavericks.

Carrey Irving, Luca Donchich, Derek Lively. Or do you guys, two guys, and a throw-in? Oh, come on, I think Derek Lively's better than throw-in. Do you want to go Derek Lively, or do you want to go, like, with a Grant or Tim Hardaway? I will go Derek Lively because I think his impact is more immense. I agree, yeah, compliment. I think he's more than a throw-in, but he is just a rookie. I see your point, Donovan.

I think he's complimentary enough, and Luka is insane enough. I think they've got to be your hire. Yeah, I agree. Lucas carrying heavy in this aspect right here. Let's be real. That's what you said. It's just, it's two guys. It's two guys and then the third guy.

It ends up being just the three best players on the Mavericks rather than a big three or trio that's actually somewhat complimentary to each other can actually like, you know, work off of each other. But they are that. They are complimentary to each other. Like, you know, it's not just three dudes. That's what they're gladly is. Yeah.

he's a great law threat he's a great connector offensively exactly it makes nice swift passes that most rookie bigs and bigs in general can't make it's a great player disrespect Derek lively but like y'all know the mean where it's like it's the army guys lined up against the wall and then you have the clown in the middle like seeing Derek lively in a lineup with Luca and Kyrie no Derek Levy's nice you say it's the dragging where one of whom's goofy yeah yeah exactly exactly okay well even investigation they have a top five player in the league and a second star I feel like that's at least B like if Palo and Franz are carrying the C Kyrie and Luke have to carry to B I agree a lot of listen we can say it's a lot of mid trios in the in the league right now I got a poll going up 68% are saying B okay B it is yeah let's go B the Denver Nuggets you we know who this big three is right yokech yeah small Murray Aaron Gordon Are we

Are we in agreeance on Aaron Gordon I mean the third guy? Yeah Yeah easy Yeah we can do that Okay We know that in terms of talking big twos The Nuggets are S tier

Best in the league Potentially Big three wise Don't Aaron Gordon there Is that still S tier Or are the A It still is S tier I think because of Nicolaio

Which is greatness And the straight-up synergy That he has between him And Jamal Murray Has to be S-tier Has to be S-tier You couldn't ask for an even better third guy

than what someone like Aaron Gordon is doing and giving them. I'm seeing a lot of A's in the chat. A lot of A's. Yeah, a lot of A's in some reason. Explain yourself. Why is this? Why is this not an S tier?

Yeah, I don't know. I guess people would say that. I need to see explanations. I guess they would say that there's some big threes that have legitimate three stars in the league right now and that Aaron Gordon isn't that. So, I don't know.

Some context has to be applied to that conversation. because once we get around to a team that's like the ninth or 10th seat or whatever like the renexons what have they done to put themselves as a trio above exactly someone like the Denver Nuggets this trio works this trio complements in each other in every way imaginable yeah and Aaron Gordon individually is very underrated like he's taking the role as being like one of the best role players in the league but you know he's extremely good like he's very impactful in what he does I'm I'm just not doing this for discourse sake this is this year If he was on a bum-ass team, he could easily get you, like, 17, 18 a night. Would he be the most impactful or most valuable doing that? Absolutely not. But he has that level of talent because he's done that before with the Orlando Magic. Yeah.

Okay. I think maybe there's, we'll get to others. Maybe there's some that we can argue are a better big three. But even if the nuggets are the bottom of the S-tier, they're still S-tier pretty easily, I think. I agree. Next up is the Detroit Pistons. Anybody have any words or should I go ahead and just mute you guys and put it I got you I got words stream let's get to it 800 likes in this chat right now We're at 6.56 this is a quick commercial break

Uh Subscribe to all our channels new merch coming out 800 likes again and we can resume Next team The Pelicans Zion Williamson Brandon ingram C.J McCollum Very good trio on paper been pretty mid this year for various reasons but was in incredible last year when they were healthy it's kind of hard to gauge at this moment

they are mid but they are elite mid which puts them in the B tier right Bc that's right that's right there in that middle category that's the that's the mid that's where they belong they standing wise have the same exact record as the Mavericks so that matches up pretty well literally the same record tied for the same spot right now I think that makes them B yeah exactly over the last then they've like played six and four type basketball almost 500 basketball they're still really there's still a great team or a good team um but this trio alone has to know the mad beat even though c jaccom has never made an all-star game in his life we still know what type of talent

he is yeah yeah okay you guys want to order these tiers as well what you know who's has a better big three mavericks or pelicans you know you don't want to go there no no That's too much. That's too much, we're going to be in this three hours. I'm not exactly. I'm not going to argue with here.

No, I will. I'll talk about Jose Alvarado's impact any day. Let's talk about it. I'll say X them. I'm here for it. Okay, okay. Next one.

Brooklyn Nets. I guess the big three is Mikhail Bridges. Oh my God. Mick Laxton. You watch your mouth about McKell Bridges. All right.

Respect on his name. I don't know why you back for him so much. I wonder why what did you just see twins did you just see the twins twins twins exactly it's a torn flame that's why did you guys she donated five dollars video shout out to jesci for five dollars he said love love from td3's only wizard's fan correct you're the only one we appreciate you man so let's see you man you're remembered in history okay so the nets have bridges claxed in i guess dinwiddie for their guy it would have been cam Thomas but he's back to the bench

not cam johnson sure cam johnson we can go cam johnson wait what about cam thomas can thomas is back on the bench not getting any burn his linsanity run is over bridge is claxon let's go cam johnson i guess it's probably damn witty but it doesn't matter where are they going

yeah they're going d easy easy d not even worth considering a different conversation sure i wanted to put them in f but yeah let's do it yeah i mean the the pistons are probably going to be alone in f Maybe the Washington Wizards will join them But we'll see Yeah Listen we're at 732 likes

Y'all are real close to Mo's mandate at 800 I don't know what he's going to do If we don't hit 800 by the end of his cheer list He might freak out He might thugshake, I don't know But if I were you, I'd like it to avoid that Follow his words Let's get to him

Next up is the Atlanta Hawks What? Did I scare you don't even or what? He's dying? He good? Sorry, I don't know why I'm laughing. You're dying. I don't know why that's funny to me.

What's wrong with this guy? Sorry. Why are he dying? You just heard the hawksie started throwing up a disgust. I took a sip of water. It went down. It went down the wrong pipe. This is crazy.

Y'all, we hit 800. likes shout out to you guys next goal I'm over here dying you guys are laughing nobody picked up the phone call 911 1 that's supposed to be my guys

I put you on the ISO camera I was worried about the content you're saying I'm dying that's crazy Atlanta Hawks Trey Young Dejante Murray Clinkapella I guess

give me a second Okay, well, let's see what chat things Because Donovan is fucking hyperventilating Yeah Moes is too biased Let's see No, no, no I'll tell you the real

This is in between B or C Maybe C Because Desonte Marie Does not fit alongside The Trial He doesn't fit inside the chair That we have ongoing right now So I might want to put this in the C

And especially considering that they are asked, too, it's very easy to put them at C. Chad is spamming a lot of D. I'm seeing a lot of D in the chat. Whoa. Chad is crazy as hell right now. D is nuts. D is nuts.

C is winning the poll right now, but there's a lot. I've seen a lot of D. I'll put them in C. I'll put them in C. But considering the fact that they are actively trying to move one of the members of their big three, I think that makes them liable to drop down to D. Fair enough.

I think we'll rock with C. Yeah. See off of the strength of Chai Young and Jalen Johnson being actually good together. Okay. Oh, I forgot Jalen Johnson. Duh. So J. and Johnson's a third year, not Clint Capella.

Let me correct myself. I forgot about Jalen Johnson. I didn't even hear you say Clint. That's crazy. Yeah, I know. I just brain fart. Okay. The Pacers.

Tyrese Halliburton. Miles Turner. Who was the third guy? Some could say Aaron Nesith. You know what that means. You know what that means. A lot could say Bennett and Mathrim, but he comes off the bench. C tier.

So, yeah, I think this is a perfect seat here. Y'all are saying B, if you're commenting B right now about the Pacers, please tell me who the third guy is. Because you got a star. The second guy isn't even an all-star, so he's not carrying that much load to have a shitty third guy. Obie Topping? Go to hell. What do you mean Obie Toppel?

Shut up. Buddy, he was. go to hell yeah buddy they're looking to trade buddy hill right now pieces fans are sick of his ass oh bruce brown okay bruce brown it's bruce brown there you go it's rick carlyle like rick carly let's do that that's perfect yeah uh it's bruce brown i guess that that works seat here yeah see bruce brown's not really having that much emotion this year so see okay someone says not bruce either listen it shouldn't be but that's the best we can work If Bruce Brown

is the best option at third, you're not running away with anything hired than the seat. I'll tell you that. So I said, Isaiah Jackson. Y'all are just naming all their players now. The fuck out of my face, I say it, Jackson. Oscar to She-Boy. Let's move on. The Minnesota Timberwolves.

We know who their big three is. Anthony Edwards, Carlonsley Towns, Rudy Gobert. Pretty great big three. Got to put him in eight year. Eight year for sure. Do they deserve S, especially as being the best team to leak so far this year, or at least in the West? Definitely not S yet, because there's still very, very valid questions between the three of them. So I think A is very solid.

Considering what they've done so far this year, through the flaws and Rudy O'Baron and Carnegie Towns actually working offensively a lot better than running pick and rolls between the two, cat in this passing vision being better and opening up so many other opportunities give him A A for sure I'm seeing 62% A right now There's an argument for S like they could You could say they deserve that type of credit

But maybe A safe to not We don't overdo it I think if Good They still are Like mid Offensively And I think that this

This trio like It works within the confines of their team, but I'm very curious, like, if you took these three guys and you put them somewhere else where you didn't have a Jaden Daniels there, you didn't have my colleague, you know, running point, what would the spacing be between here? What would the defense be on the team with this three at your core? So I would still put them at A. Okay. Are you still reeling from the choking? A little bit, yeah. hearing it in his voice.

Why did you ask that? You just want to say yes. I'm trying to be very, like, deliberate. Make sure. Go get some water. We got to. Go get some water. We'll cover it.

Oh, my gosh, man. That's funny. Yeah, this is 8 tier. It's probably the best A tier, but it's up there. We'll save the next that Donovan gets back. Cleveland Cavaliers. We'll chat. This will be me, chat, and Moe.

We'll three men weave this. Donovan Mitchell, Darius Garland, Evan Mowley. Strong big three. hasn't really amounted to much but that's talent right there that's real talent that's real star power strong big three that's been considered to break up whether it be yeah not really one day or but yeah I guess that's the case but in terms of the lack of playoff success I might want to put them at B because I know they're really really damn good these three like a play I mean the Timber was not a playoff success I

yeah you're right they don't have playoff success does that make them a though I don't necessarily agree with that I don't I don't know they should be a I can't I can't maybe I can't put Cleveland in it in it okay well okay no matter I was to see what's different seeing them in Timberwolves but Timberwolves are showing success this year is the one C yeah we have okay we saw regular season success last year though from Cleveland yeah but not to the amounts not to the feats that the Timberwolves have had to reach I'm seeing a lot of B in the chat that's fine I think B's winning the vote 51%

I think that's fair I mean Yeah They can't be lower than B right In the perfect world I think it should be A But for now Do all the hard

The hardships that they've had to go through I think B is fair Yeah I mean like D Mitch is legit star Evan Mubly was second And DPOY last year Or third actually I can't remember Garland has been a bit disappointing Because of injuries

And early in the season turnover issues So I can see if that doesn't quite do it For you to give them A Yeah Okay B tier the new york nix jaylon brunson julius randall isaiah hardinstein wow that's you're going to say malachi flin that's crazy heartenstein and nobi robertson put whoever you want at the third this is a tier you know what i'm

this is fantastic no i mean it solidly it's a it's a it's a beat it's a beat tier trio uh brunson's fantastic he's taking another leap and he's been great and i think that like ananoby and we've seen since he's been inserted into this lineup. This team is 5-0, like they still haven't lost yet. It's much more complimentary of what it was when R.J. Barrett was there. And if Julius Randall, who's been fantastic, if he keeps playing the way he has, Brunson's playing, you know, great, it's definitely a B-tier.

They're not the best team in the conference, which is why I'm not putting them at A, like the Tim Wolves, but they're good. Yeah. So OGN and Obie's the third guy Let's say that I was joking Like Mitch Robinson's great

Could have picked him He's dead for the year If OGN obi's a third guy You have one guy Who isn't an all-star But all-star level A second guy who has been an all-star Let's say they're both

Low-level all-star level Two guys there As in a third high-level role player To me that sounds exactly The same as the Hawks We're not great The whole team We're grading the big three

That sounds like the same thing The Hawks have Yeah but the difference is that it's like working yeah they win games you got to give them credit yeah but it's proven and this is like the direction and they've actually like produced uh since the jillan brunson era has occurred or if you want to throw in the old gina nobby era then sure we all see the pathway the light the vision and for the hawks there is no vision absolutely so you can't put them in the same tier of the hawks i agree i'll say a talent on paper it's

pretty similar but they deserve it because they've won and julie's ran has proved himself a lot more than Jean-Tay Murray has as a second guy for sure Miami Heat we got Jimmy Butler Bama to bio and Tyler here probably is the third guy hey too it depends on what night this is S tier like somehow they're just gonna find their way like we're gonna put them at A and then they just go back look at it changing themselves as always yeah we need to save ourselves in the brief and absolute shock that we're going to face in April and June or whatever just put them in ass and get it over with somehow no explanation put Juan Wick who wonwick is the third

guy this might be S plus it doesn't matter just put him in a minimum oh they're for sure a minimum easily and they deserve that too like two finals pushes with this nucleus they at least deserve a do we want to vote with the black magic like they they have voodoo on their side with pat Riley they don't miss the finals I don't want to fuck with the black magic. Me personally, I already had enough problems on my life. Last podcast, had to end it early because I had some Wi-Fi issues.

I came late to this podcast. Look, I don't want no smoke with Miami Heat black magic whatsoever. Me either. ST. No matter. Both final teams from last year or in S-tier. Welcome, welcome. Perfect.

Someone's... I don't know. I can read the comment. No, read it, please. I have to hear it. Washington Wizards Jordan Poole Kyle Kuzma

Daniel Gaffer Text us the comment Yeah while we're debating Type it out for it We're gonna debate We're gonna debate We're gonna debate the Washington Wizards I forgot who it was

Put him at F People are saying E Oh god So it's Jordan Poole Denny of Dia and I guess In Cal Cooze oh Kyle Kuzma damn that's tough man bro let's put the boys in that we get another

commercial break yeah exactly commercial break guys watching right now I'm talking to you my man with your phone or your laptop or your TV watch I'm watching the stream on a TV is kind of crazy but regards to the fact we are a thousand likes short of our goal right now we have 800 likes currently we need a thousand said i'm looking at a thousand short yeah i mess on my words you know exactly what i mean though disregard that i give a thousand we're like the stream leave a like on the stream we need it yeah man we got a new category on the tier list just for the wizards they're in there

oh my goodness i love that while you're talking i love they got their own category we'll make it pink the wizard's tier the e tier wongdong the toronto raptors scottie barry scottie barnes still Pascal Ciacom and let's go Emmanuel quickly see on paper this should be B

but they do not produce so I want to put them in C hmm it's really reverse Nick here it's reversed next year let's see what chat is I don't know this is a hard one

like we haven't seen a lot of quickly yet so that's one part is that we don't know exactly what the team is going to do yeah yeah exactly um i see a lot of the chat saying d and c combination between the two and honestly d might or c stuff i don't see might lean d for now because we know that pascal schaccombe probably isn't going to be a part of their future seriously so yes another part of it is that this team's not going to be together for very much longer exactly so d is fair you can't there's no real argument for them right now though i'm running a poll 65

I want to change my pick I want to go we have to put them in deep okay why is that we have to do that first of all they are the 11 seed and they are below the they're below the nets right there under them and I just don't think that they are for the last two years we've seen what scotty barnes and pascal siaccombe even for the last yeah for the last two years we've seen what scotty barns pascal siacum looks like together again on paper This team should be a little bit better than what they are, but they come out every year. They give us horrendous offense to watch.

They end up being mid. Right now, they're worse than mid. They're, what, five games under 500, six games under 500. They're not great, so got to put them in deep. All right, man, C tier, I mean, D tier it is. You're with the Brooklyn Nets. The Golden State Warriors. We got Stephanie Graham on Green, Clay Thompson.

this is the trio that ruined my life when i was 15 16 17 years old i'm tired of them tired of calling them a trio they're a weak-ass trio these days and that makes me so happy so with that being said step curry is still him play is constantly fighting lost allegations and draymond green almost considered retirement this sounds like a perfect seat to me you might be being generous right now Okay, that's So that holds a lot of weight Yeah I'm running a poll right now

Because I want to see With chat things Because we are not the most Pro Warriors this year The team is cooked Been singing for a long time They're cooked as fuck And we got a lot of backlash

For it in the beginning But now everybody agrees This team is beyond cooked Curry can only hold so much weight He's not having MVP Curry type year right now Because it's hard for him To have that type of year

When there's much shit is around him And he definitely can't be hired than C you right no i didn't see is their limit but if you want to go and you want to give tyrese the nod right like come on step currie deserves that type of nod he deserves that type of respect let's just put them and see keep them moving okay yeah and draymond's still good clay is clay but draymond's still great defender i i guess we can give him see yeah 15 year old in me is like screaming up and down right now yes is it i'm happy for the downfall because i

prayed for it exactly the Utah Jazz the Lowry marketing in Walker Kessler and Jordan Clarkson yeah man that sucks ass you know you can say John Collins but either way you ain't avoid an ass you put if you put John Collins in that trio they go into the Wizards tier don't know man he's averaging 14 points is John Collins they're like come on come on there are lucky Lowry marketing marketing it's awesome and I love him. Otherwise, we might be looking at Wizards tier. But I love Laramarkin with all my heart.

He will let me do a chance. This is my fantasy team last year. I love him. They're playing great basketball right now, though, too. Of course he was. Yeah, they've been winning a lot of games, though, you're right. Inconceivably.

They've been running John Collins at the 5 a lot, and it's been making them look better. I, D. Chad's spamming up D right now. D is fair. It's the, it's the jazz. Go ahead. Yeah, we're not in a debate with the jazz.

send this man to the thunder please the Houston Rockets Fred Van Vleet Sengoon Dylan Brooks Jarvis Let's do Jbarre Smith He's been pretty good Okay

Fred Van Vleet Sangoon This is another situation where it's Fred Van Bleet Sangoon and Emead Dukka I put the coach in the big three No it's Jabari's been good this year Jibari's legit been impressive No no listen he's been fantastic

I mean, come on. Okay, come on. Whatever. Yeah. No. We're 970 likes. We have 1,400 of you are in here right now.

Run those likes up for us. Get us past 1,000. Help us out. Yo. This is, y'all right now, watching this could make TD3 history with us right now. We've never hit 1,000 likes

while we're actually alive. Done that before, but not actually while we're alive. So go ahead and be a part of history with us, man. I think we have, but I'll let it rock. Go ahead. Get us with a thousand likes for the first. I said, I think shit.

You always tell him. Stop yapping. Fuck. Come on. It's everything. Oh, we got there. There we go. We did.

Woo. That was mad easy. Y'all do that instantly. 1,200's next. Run it up. Never satisfied. Always hungry. Right now, the chat is voting C tier for the Rockets.

Does that seem fair? Yeah. Yeah. I'll give them C. because they're playing well and they also i know i know we're just doing it from about like right now but they are playing well and they have potential so i do one someone said no jalen green love is i said if you love jalen green right now you're not watching basketball that man is ass he has not been good this year everything you want for him as a young player coming in being their volume

score coming in being off the you know off the dribble shooter catching shoot shooter finishing at the rim a little bit of passing he's got all those things you want to do well and been bad at all of them He has been awful the only reason they're playing him still is because the draft cachet and they have to because it's a hope that he can be good But he's been by far the worst starter I think set the ISO cam up for himself look straight into the camera he that man is jane and green Yeah Someone who does record that and send it into a DM bro. Oh, you just set yourself up for a life. I That's hilarious

I think he tears pulled. No, yeah, I agree. I love the team outside of Jalen Green, outside of the wildly disappointing number two pick. Yeah, 17 this season on 40% field goal percentage is absolutely atrocious right now, man. Getting your chain snatch when it comes to hierarchy is absolutely wild. Someone said Isaac smooth because I'm a hater.

That is hilarious, bro. That's so accurate. At my dawn moment. All right, yeah, next one. The Sacramento Kings, Deeran Fox, Sabonis, Kegan Murray. I think it's a strong A tier. They've produced. A tier.

King, Moor is good. Yeah, they are good. They are good. They were the second seat last year this year. They're like, what? They're five right now and they were three last year. They win games. Yeah.

They're good. They have two stars. A third guy who's, like, on the up and up can be a star in the future, like, low-level guy, not star. I don't think he's going to be an all-star, but, like, he's a high-level player. Keegan Murray can make a sub-all-star, whatever tier you have there where it's, like, one of the better starters in the league that isn't a star. Keegan Murray is on the trajectory. He's an established valuable player, yep. Exactly.

Deer & Fox is making another lead 30-point-free game score. I'm the biggest a bonus hater in the world, but you got to give him to him. He's a good player. If that's your second player, your big three, that moves me a little bit. Donovan, I see you getting ready to hate, ISO cam, go ahead, cook, go ahead. Thank you. I was just about to ask you. This is where narratives come into play.

How social perspective, right, affects the way we look at the game. Because right now, the Sacramento Kings have the same record as the New York Knicks and the Cleveland Cavaliers. Both teams who are in B tier. And Isaac wants to put them in a tier. They probably will have the same amount of All-Star. right the nicks might get one the kings are going to get one they're going to they're going to do the same thing right their third star their third player in that big three is probably in the same tier

in terms of how good they actually are but because they run up and down and they light the beam whenever they win and everybody thinks that they're cool now they're in a tier i refuse to believe it this is a deep tier trio the thing you don't understand is i also wanted to put the calves in a tier so it's not inconsistency i just got outvoted i lost i don't know what's going to the mavericks the mavericks have one more win than the kings let's put up an eight tier they have luca the pelican the same record as the kings put them in b tier okay all these teams have the same record as the sacramento kings they do not deserve a tier they are a b tier trio and there's nothing wrong with that that's good it's for sacramento they've never had trials like

this they were one time they've had a trio like this this is not something that comes off there don't mo what do you think you love to color purple and they wear purple do not fucking fail me no i'm not listen man with all that being said i still have to put the sacramento and kings in a tier dearon fox bradalen brunson ain't touched him i'm sorry man you have that look of disgust listen i've had that same look in your in your face on a routine basis okay but there's nothing wrong with putting them in a tier whatsoever because they I think they're I have I haven't just what have they done what have they done they have the same record as five teams we put in beat here they haven't won a playoff series

they last all last year they were the three seed and everyone was like oh yeah they're going to get bouncing the first round and they got bounced in the first round like why are they above everybody else in the same tier as the timblewolves who have the best defense in the league Best team in the West? What are we talking about? Okay, I mean, I don't want to slander the Timberwolves. We can go B tier because Chad's also voting B, so I'll start with the chat. I'll give you guys a two-one.

Chat, I'll let you guys be the tiebreaker because I'm not that serious about it. You got it. He's mad. Yeah, Chad saying you're mad, bro. That one is actually wild. He's feeling. What the difference is again? Some of these B-tier teams should probably be A, but we'll revisit.

said this at the end that we'll see if we're still agreeing with all this you are going to move five teams into eight here at the end and i'm going to be even more yeah and none of them gonna be the next two clippers just donated a dollar and 49 cents hilariously specific he said the clippers are winning the chip this year also i hate you for saying their jersey look like gta too damn bad they have some gta ass jerseys they want to be down to mexican so bad and it looks crazy as fuck i hate it hey we got 1137 likes in here right now i said 1200s up next we're right there like one more pusher up to 12 much like so run this up for us get to work next team an interesting one the okay c thunder shay chett jubb how are we

feeling this could be a s but they're not proven yet so they might have to be an a i will put them i will put them in it i feel like don't know that hating that you just I know that was so much of quiet I didn't come down you can't be can't be up here all the time right it's about the rhythm right back and forth you got to understand the ways of yapping okay you say yapping yapping yapping 101 when's a book dropping we got 65% saying 8 here right now 27% saying yes I don't think it'd be crazy to say yes I think they have the top seven player in the league definitively in shea chet and jadub i think are both going to be all-stars in the near future j-dove's not as certain but chet's like for sure going to be a star

i i am staking my claim on j-dove island that he's going to be a star as well if you want to say right now they're not there yet so you don't want to project i can see a but it's not crazy to say yes i don't think no it's not it's not crazy and i think with the with the success that they've had right now and again this is also just biased like we haven't seen a bad version of this trio together the same way that we've seen the Timberwolves and so there's probably some bias that we're still holding on to

from last year but for the Thunder everybody fits together and it makes sense and like you have a guy who's probably going to win MVP or who has a very good case of winning MVP like yeah I guess you should go A just like they should be leveled with the Timberwolves until either one of them proves their way into S

so I think A's fine exactly that's my that's my exact same reason I think genuinely they have what they that trio as a whole need to be us here but in terms of needing time to really stamp your foot in the ground in the NBA and which you make yourself known as a threat you should be you should be yes or you should be a shout up to Raf BG he donated another one dollar he said is Derek White an all-star fuck no sorry I break it to you fuck no what his 16 points and 40% of three doesn't move you

What the hell, man? Why? I was given the Celtics four all-stars. I'm sorry. I love Derek White. Probably the best role player in the league. Transcending role-player talks. He's fantastic.

Doesn't mean he's an all-star. This is... You just have something against bald heads, man. This isn't... Listen, this is the basketball. It's not... Oh, in 2015, he would guarantee be an all-star, bro. Folks are...

Oh, yeah. No, the Celtics would have had six all-stars in 2015. Six all-stars is nuts, bro. Goran Drogic made the all-star. game in 2017. Crazy. Roy Hibberts made an all-star game, bro, back in the days.

Somebody said it's Tyrese Hallibur and an All-Star apps of fucking Lutley. Of course. Of course. Next. Also, wait, real quick. Shea Green commented, can I have a shout-out?

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No, no, my mind. The Milwaukee Bucks. Yonis and Nacombo Damian Lillard Chris Middleton Okay What are we talking about here? It has to be S tier

It has to be S tier Even though they haven't worked out As well as we wanted them to be And while I say that They're like the second seed or third seed Or whatever in the Eastern Conference second My bad And so

They still deserve to be asked bro It's Yonis and Chris Mold Yeah often cache And also spammy is my birthday now too they're triggered for birthday shout-outs relax man get a hold of yourself buddy god you want to shout out leave a like and i'll i'll let you know we are at 1.2 though we are at 1.2 likes we hit 1 we're at 1,200 that's you all are running it up okay we don't know about the 1 fucker but this is the s easy yeah it's

okay no debate we don't even got to talk about it yeah definitively one of the best duos Damien Lodd struggles. You throw in any of the other starters you want. This is a great, great victory. Tomato Man won. Don't need $1. Josh Giddy is shooting better than Jaylon Green right now. Compare their stats on basketball reference.

That's hilarious. I think that's true. He is. Yeah, Josh Ging shooting like 45% from the field and 37% from the three-point line right now. Like he's been more efficient over these last few games, bro. Jaylon Green is in the gutter, man. Yeah, it's terrible. He's in the trenches.

He's in the trenches. Listen, he's, he, all he has to do is give back to his roots. And for him, that means playing for Gleague Ignite, right? And he can go and dominate there. There you go. The Portland Trailblazers, Anthony Simons, DeAndre, and Jeremy Grant. Oh, no, no. It's Jeremy, Grand, Shannon, and Sharpen Anthony Simons.

Put them more than F tier. Yeah, put them boys in Wizards tier. Congratulations, Portland Trailblazers are with the Wizards. Oh, man. Love it. I feel like. Real quick, two second side note, two players that Isaac made me believe in this season was Ben Simmons, Massivell. Now I'm going bankrupt and now I'm in the fucking hood again because of you, Isaac for a couple of more months.

I have no money. And then on top of that, I said Ben Simmons and DeAndre Aine, like DeAndrean is not doing absolutely anything this season. He got worse. He got worse. Isaac, I have no money because of you, bro. That man needs a point guard. It's crazy. Like this man just cannot get his own buckets.

he needs to be set up he he went for being set up by Chris Paul and Devin Booker to a bunch of rookies like he's in hell for a center and he's not built like that to get his own buckets on his own like face up is not his game this man needs a point guard bad he's shooting 45% from the field man which isn't bad but considering like your seven feet yeah he's like what's you're doing bro yeah exactly get to the basket bro get a post move please grind your two K badges learn how to do a drop set, man. Like, come on. So what's the how do I donate? It's the first

link in the description that says support. Get a drop step. That's hilarious. All right, man. Back to a relevant team. The Clippers. Paul George, Kauai Leonard, James Hardin. Hardin. They're on a tear. They're fantastic. They are hooping. Put these boys in eight.

They could be S. They could be S. No. That's too much dip on our chip. Okay. Why? They have that. They're an eight. S-tier? I don't know. They could be.

This is not out lame to say. The teams that we have seen in S-tier have made the finals with their core in the last three to four years. I mean, is that what they have to do? Is that what we're going to say? If you're not in the finals, you can't be-as? No, but if you're looking for like a connective thread, like I don't think that the Clippers, in that sense, when we haven't seen that trio played together, even just a duo of Paul George and Kauai Leonard, we haven't seen that consistently over the last four years.

There's still a level that they need to get. get to in order for me to put them in this but they are listen they are hooping they look great right now yeah but are we holding them back just for sample size sake like we just haven't seen like you said but what we have seen has been good it's been great like they're on a rule we haven't seen anything otherwise you know like it's is it fair to ding them just because we haven't seen it yes all right well we'll see what chat says in the meantime while chat's voting two donations first buy a spurs fan donated three dollars and 74 cents this money is to get moa a rat trap y'all the best part around love

from Canada canadian spurs fan is he have them on no I got these weak ass traps that I just send me their ass bro look at these what am I supposed to do with this how much you pay for these I think be real you were not dedicated to actually helping me out who don't know I got to catch up Luca lover tip one dollar he says apparently Luca has torn his meniscus against the Grizzlies still better than Shaydo what are you talking about look at no way I I think he's capping.

I'm going on Twitter right now. I think he's capping. Yeah, yes, okay, that cannot be a trend that we have on the pot. All right,

man. Let's relax here. Let's relax here. Okay, next one. Y'all are playing around. Hot take, Jaylon Brunson deserves

to start over Lillard this year at All-Star. I don't know if either one of them are going to start. Thank you for $5, though. I have avocado. Cleveland Ford donated $1.

Do the Clippers have a realistic chance to win a ring with these three? Yeah. However, that may be. realistically chance like is there a chance yeah some chance is there i'll say this they have a greater than 5% chance to win the title which listen most and i'm and i'm being honest that's actually kind of significant considering where they were who else is in is in the league right now

and the other powers at the top of the league i think that that's pretty massive for yeah five percent is not bad just not together yeah Alex B donated one dollar do you guys think Scotty Barnes is an all-star this year. Love from Toronto. I think he might not make it because of team's success, someone like Palo probably getting over him, but he deserves it. I think he's been all-star caliber for sure. I 110% agree with that. Bro, this vote right now, I see 430 votes right now for the Clippers poll. It's tied 45% to 45% between S and A.

Y'all are going to be the deciding factor, so I'm going to give it another minute, but this is crazy close. So real quick, the Los Angeles Clippers have over the last 25 games. They're like 18 and seven or something like that. Been playing phenomenal basketball. Offenses clicking on all cylinders. And also, more importantly, their defense has been on lock, too. And that's what's been really carrying them on a consistent basis.

And so with that being said, you see Kaua Lenter playing at his peak form. James Hardin has developed that neatest synergy that he's always needed to have. Any type of success with the team with Zubach. Russell Rushbrook has found his role on the bench Paul George is the exact same type of Paul George that he's not he's started off the season necessarily but he is still a great guy to have on your team and so with that being said I

I think they deserve to be A for sure All right well the poll finally moved It's 46% A, 44% S I'll end it here A tier it is There we go That was the closest poll I've ever ran I've never seen one that tied for that long That's nuts

Yeah that's crazy I'm proud of you got you have some sense y'all have less i guess the clippers tax got him yeah charlin hornets la mellow ball uh oh yeah i got a donation ten dollars from living on the hedge which team is most likely to fall the furthest on the same tier list next year who the warriors that's a great question the warriors they can love it yeah it could be the warriors it could be a team like the los angeles clippers because if they flame out then you have to immediately ask like Paul George's future because he needs to sign a contract extension so does Coi Leonard don't know if they'll

trade those guys but that is definitely on the table but yeah I would say for sure the Warriors and the cookies yeah I feel I feel like that but with the Cleveland Cavaliers because it's basically like they they are hanging on by a thread right now yeah they could trade the Mitch at eight time yeah crazy turtle donated one dollar he said I see you guys of the patients at sea have you thought about Tyrese, Miles, and James Johnson being the trio, James has the ability to make players afraid to steal our balls that

fear is our weapon. He's going to be his Pistak's on their side. I love this. What does I love James Johnson? Wait, everybody's saying for Don to check out the Knicks core? What's going on? We're up.

We're up 101 to 69 on the Portland Trailblazers. Damn. Congratulations. Bro, the king's 1 by 20. The king's been in my God. They gave 50 points in the first quarter and 1 by 20.

Yeah, that's hilarious. I promise you, y'all again moved to Mexico City. You guys are not going to be in the continental United States in five years. The continental United States. This is disgusting. This is terrible. Hornets. D.R.F.

Will a ball. Green and Miller. and uh we'll go d mark williams yeah put them in d all right terrier's been fantastic this year doesn't fucking matter they can't be c too sorry terry i didn't even put you in the big three my be big ball of sandy tip ten dollars appreciate you outside of prime hardin and hakeem who would you consider as your favorite rocket player of all time big yell me give me kowleri man i need that

Rockets Kyle Lowry when he was a nobody yeah man yeah man give me Kyle Lowry okay I can keep up with these let's see team Mac team Mac is good Aaron Brooks was fun for a year you know give me give me Chuck Hayes man I was watching a rat donated $1 he said Mo I'm begging you please eat some food out us rats are living off scraps and shake on these help us out please he donated how much a dollar bro go to hell I wrap my shit up bitch you can't see me tonight fuck you Mateo donated three dollars appreciate you Caitlin donated three dollars he said just got introduced you all via TikTok love y'all

if you had to pick on your current s tiers had to order them which do you think would be the best because I'm a bucks fan and I myself might put them in a tier the nuggets are the best so far I would I would rank them in this order Nuggets heat bucks that's fair If we're including black magic into it, like, yeah, I think the fact that, like, Jimmy just turned into Michael Jordan every playoffs, yeah, I would rank them here. I guess, yeah, let's do it. All right, we're about to get spicy. We're on to the big one.

The Los Angeles Lakers, the most polarizing team, talked about team in the league every year. Where are we putting the Lakers in this tier list? Big threes. So it's LeBron, Anthony Davis, Austin Reeves. Really? who else would have been uh man

now you're I'm just two top 12 players at least and a good I guess a really good role player yeah so and they suck so far the season

they suck for everything else but not because the big three like this we know the big three works it's just like 4 through 12 is fucking ass I'm serious now he's not he's not taking any of my jokes yeah we're going into war right now

we're going to war right now we're going to like the 4 through 12 is piss like they suck ass after the victory about this so uncomfortable truth time here they're not s tier anymore that's for damn sure i think they might be b that was weirdly central why just whispered in my ear like that why did you have to make it weird he said i think they might be b okay now you're dragging it buddy you did that to 1400 viewers in their ear right now, Isaac. You're on the list. We did it twice. What do you mean? You did it the first time. Yeah, we did it twice, but we only had to do it once, though. You made it worse. You amplified

it. Now it's in history. No, I understand B. If you got them to do that. But then I just beg you to look around and be like, are you seriously going to put them in the same caliber as Brunton and Randall? The Anthony Davis and LeBron James is crazy. It's insane. Personally, I want to put them in A. There has to be A, I think. I get it B if you're holding them, like they're not succeeding right now. I get that. I think it's pretty clearly not because the big three. And We're just judging big threes. We're not judging teams here, you know. But I get it.

There's some winning tack that's hard to look past. I can see why, like, you didn't look past it for other guys. You're not going to get the Lakers that favor. But I think it's pretty crazy to have LeBron and AD together and have it not be a tier. No, yeah, I agree. I'll give the Lakers a tier, just because the Bucks, we put the Bucks in S-tier in this, like, iteration of the Bucks or this big three hasn't won a title in three. years, right? They, they aren't necessarily like, listen, they got bounced out in the first

round last year. Dame hasn't been great over the last, you know, week or so. So we made some exceptions earlier in this tier list. I'll make one for the neighbors. Put them in a tier. Look at that. I'm going to pin this message. People keep asking how to donate one of the mods put it in the chat. I'll pin that. That's a donation link. We missed one. Robert W. said the Pacers are going to be S-turn next year when PG comes home in free agency and they trade for Pascal when they make a super team they'll be shtier I hope all right well that's hell of an expectation I know are we got we got six more teams left y'all the San Antonio Spurs victim women Yama Devin Vassell and we can't be

Kelton Johnson they bench his ass who's a third guy sure Jeremy Sohan where we put where we put in the spurs jump at churros carries heavy hey Donovan can you show me how the what Charles Barker said? You're not you're not getting me you're not getting me no wait what do you say gosh I will show you the YouTube video after bro show them

bro I'm showing why you're so scared what are you scared though What are you scared? No anyway so Wemby I think that it's just first I'm not doing it you can put the ISO cam on me I'm not I think Wembe gets them to about a detail

by himself exactly I agree does he they're the same team as a spur they're the same team as the pistons yeah I think I love how much you've been ragging on the pistons and we're acting like the spurs aren't like two games worse than them they're so trash yeah it's they're unbelievable trash I don't know if they deserve higher than F tier they're not Wizards tier but they might be F no they have to be D tier damn so hand tax that is so crazy all right man we'll go detere i'm not going to argue too long about the wizards people are here talking about when be overrated

yeah go to hill Memphis grisleasible Memphis grisleys john morant jaron jackson desmond bain i just got so sad so don't marat count now because he's not playing for the rest of the season and this is not dead yes he counts His NBA season is

Dammit He's so he shouldn't count We'll go We can go B tier B not A They win a lot They went a lot of games I would say

A All healthy of course I think they're A Because John Morant At his best is like An MVP caliber player Jaron Jackson Jr. is literally defensive

player of the year And Desmond Bain is one of the finest second options That you could have on any team So I'd be comfortable A honestly They win a lot when they're healthy

Like they just know how to win games Yeah exactly We've seen them get a two seed with this trio Listen they lost in the second round to the Lakers When they had none of their bigs at all Their entire front court was decimated I think they're a really good team I think this court

Just three teams deserves A I saw this team score nine points In the first quarter in the playoff series Against the Lakers Yeah nine points you're unsirious oh my god you're unsurious

you're such a fucking hater you're unsurious I'm not giving you this not though nine that's crazy alright let's go B we got a hater in our midst oh my god that's

by a spurs fan donated another $3.74 he said crazy I donated 374 and you didn't reciprocate the love by putting the spurs and ass I might put them down to wizards you've tried me again

I'll all say that furs and s that's crazy All right next up The Chicago Bulls Zach Levine Demar de Rosen Kobe White

That's some of the finest mid Oh my goodness Do they belong in the worst in mid actually Was it a wizard Just kiss a mid Are we going to Wizards or we're going F Truthfully they probably deserve Like a lower tier

Or like back half a D But I'm fine to put them in an F Demand Rose is having an okay season yeah and okay season not a good season he's having an okay season we have to put them they got to be indeed they're still they're in the playing yeah i know i'm just kidding they're productive chat we got 1,293 likes right now can you get us to 1,500 by the time the stream ends y'all are running up you're active as hell in the chat can you get us to 1500 likes that's my question the math nobody believes you guys but i believe in you guys

I love that video. How are you going to answer? Nobody believes in you. Don't let me want to come into your house. It's yo me. What are you prepared to do? I'm just saying. I'm just saying.

He's talking to you. Philadelphia 76ers. Joelle and Bede, Tyrese Maxie, Tobias Harris, Harris. good twice here's so forgettable sometimes he's got a good year he's been legitimately good back in a role that suits him getting more touch he's been good i've i've been very impressed by him on both sides of the ball i have to be it might have to be s tier i'm not going to lie i'm not going to lie i'm not going to lie joel and beat is averaging like 35 points a game paris maxi tiree maxi is going to be an all-star you have two all-stars and tobias harris who's in a

rejuvenated third role player you know third third star whatever role player role type hey man these guys are hooping like i i think i might have to put s i think i might have to do that that's crazy i wouldn't go as far as put them in an s but there's a world where they can do that because joll and beat is so goddamn good and tyrese and that has made that lead but you get an MVP and a second star and a really good third player okay on one hand that's the same thing as the Nuggets and the Bucks, but it's also the same thing as the Mavs, which way ever you're going to go,

because we are not consistent with that archetype. Wait, explain. How is it the same thing as that? Luke is not MVP, the MVP caliber player. Got it. With a second star and then a solid third option. I meet you in the middle. I'll put a minute,

which is probably what they deserve to be in. I think it is. Listen, Lucas MVP type, but he's an actual MVP. Max is better than Kyrie at this point. I think of my best. I'm not going to lie. The best three players in the league

for the past three or four years, They're in the running for MVP every year, have been Yokic, Yonis, Mbid. Every year, those are the three best regular season players at this point. I think they have the same claim that the S-tier big three. Because it's not team, it's just big three. Yeah. Nah, we can't put Tobias in that's here. What am I talking about?

I love you talk to some through all that. You're like, no, but Tobias is Tobias. I'm so, with you watch you on this, but yeah, we're good. Yeah, I'm not. I think they, yeah, thoroughly in and out, I think they're in a, tier for sure because s here is like we know this core works and it's proven we've seen it before and they're still thriving to this day we haven't seen a trio with joel and bd work just yet and you could look at it two ways like is joel and b good enough or is this trio not good

and a half we don't fucking out um yeah listen i wanted to give joel and b the credit he they can't be yes you're right it's a big three not a big two they can't be yes yeah exactly so it's big two they'd be yes for so. All right, man. Oh, another donation. Ryan Kay donated $1. He said Moe's looking like Grady Dick with that du rag on. How?

Grady was caught wearing a du rag? I think you're kind of twins are Grady Dick. Now I think about it. I don't know how to take it. Yeah, yeah. You guys might be related by like, like half siblings type of shit. Yeah.

I can see it. Next up, another. controversial one but he likes swag the Phoenix sons man what do we do with this team they suck but they have a crazy talent on paper Kevin Durant Devin Booker Bradley Beale maybe Grayson Allen at this point who knows they're they're going in C tier

I'm putting them in C tier I'm being so serious one they suck they don't play together like somebody's always hurt on this team on this big three we never see it we're not This isn't an availability tier list.

This isn't a healthy tier list. Like, it's how good they are. Like, they're not C-1. They don't play together. Have you seen the fourth quarters that these guys have? Oh, my God. Their fourth quarter of atrocious. They're not good right now.

They're not good right now. But we know the talent's there, and they haven't had the time to gel. Because like you said, they're unavailable. But we're going to, it's going to look silly, I think, by the end of the year, once they do have that time to gel to say they're a C-tier trio. Then we can make another tier list then. But right now, they start. I'm fine not giving them S or A because we're holding them accountable.

I think we're not putting KD and Devin Booker in C-tier. Be fucking for real. Why not? Because they're KD and Devin Booker. What does that matter? We're trying to be. What does it matter? What does it matter? It's what we're gauging.

We're talking about the players. We're not listening on the standings. This isn't a standing steer list. Not fair. That's feed-devil's advocate. Bradley Bale has not been great Now yes he has been finding himself Throughout this entire season but

He's been average like I don't know 16 points per game so far this year and he hasn't been Amazing So I think worst case is B I really want to put them in A because They're still really fucking good and there's so many other things Around them that's so wrong

But yeah let's put them in A Let's be wrong let's put them in A Okay Hey no we're not putting in A let's let's shit chat think about it will get their input chat keep bringing up the votes I don't care what chat has to say put them in C what it is see go fuck yourself they're not going to see in the meantime

I have a donation to catch up on John W donated one dollar he said guy who made that one comment about Don's hatred for the clippers who you got in a cage match 2016 Dremont Green or 2004 on our test guys you you don't understand

2004 Ron our test would kill everybody in NBA history like you don't understand how strong this man was please go watch some some documents also everybody listen if you vote on this poll and you get the sons to see i guarantee you mobile thugshake on the pod get the sons to see see's not happening shut up see's not happening i'm not cashing in those checks i am not cashing in those checks he's lalena donated five dollars he said mocheeks monday on a tuesday facts that is crazy why can we just be

nice, simple, be a family-friendly podcast and say TD3 Tuesday or something like that, bro. But no, y'all want to give them over. Anyways. All right, man, we got 500. We got nearly 500 votes. B is winning by comfortable margin. Good amount of C and good amount of A.

14% of you guys voted for S. Be fucking for real. Looks like B tier wins. B's fair. Their team is ass and the big three is suffered from me. Both thugshake in the comments, you guys are not about your crap. All right?

We're not serious about what you want in life. You don't go out and get the things that you want. You shouldn't go there for the Suns and C if you wanted that. All right, man. One more left. Boston Celtics. Jason Tatum. Jane and Brown.

Christos Porzingis or Derek White? Prisynus. There can be a real argument. Yeah. That could be an illegit argument for Derek White, but I kind of feel a little bit more. comfortable with proscenious yeah either way it's ster right either way it doesn't matter it's i don't care they're great yeah they're fantastic okay here's our our list for at four ester teams

Denver finals heat finals bucks finals Celtics haven't made the finals but they've been knocked actually they did make it they made the phone yeah 2022 and they're knocking on the doors of winning every year that's all fair right we don't have any type of any type of hesitation with those 14s and S? They're bulletproof, they're stamped, they've proven their they've left their marketing and be history.

Someone's like, give us a poll. This is a democracy. We don't got to make yourself as a democracy. They're S tier. Yeah, that's crazy. Y'all have a say, but not in this one. A tier. Timberwolves, thunder,

clippers, Lakers, Sixers. Should any of those be up or down a tier? Nah, I think... Oh, man. If we were in a debate, One of these being up or down a tier, it might have to be a team like the Sixers, but other than that, nah. Yeah, I feel Timberwolves, best team in the West, they deserve it.

Thunder knocking on those doors, probably deserved two. Clipper is like, those are three best teams in the West currently, besides the Nuggets. Like, A tier feels right. Lakers are just so hard to gauge when the top three is so good, but the 4 through 12 is so ass. Like, I'm not mad at you if you want to put them in B, but it's LeBron They have two top ten players, though. Yeah, like, how do you, I don't know. It's a weird-ass team, like to think about that way.

With that being said, the Phoenix Suns have the exact same top two, or two top ten players as well. I agree. It's different because we've seen this top two when the NBA finals are four, and the Phoenix Suns, we haven't seen as to before yet. Exactly. Donovan, you're real quiet. we're good we're good on a tier okay B tier B tier there might be some moving and shaking in B tier

Dallas Mavericks feels they feel kind of overqualified with Luca Doncha cheer but we'll see North Orleans Pelicans Cleveland Cavaliers New York Knicks kings Grizzlies and Sons for the Grizzies and what do we know them as today they're big they're real big three

put them down but I'm outvoted in that one. I think if any team were to move in this category, it would be the New Orleans Pelicans, and I think they have a case to be dropped down to C. Don't mind now. Really?

No, I mean, C.C.M. McCollums are number three. That's a strong number three. Like, they're very balanced, have a lot of talent, one, two, three. We just witnessed the New Orleans Pelicans destroy the Sacramento Kings yesterday without Zion Williamson. Jim McCollum are berserk, so I think they definitely need to remain in me. It's just that I feel like this big three always figures it out when somebody's not there. Yeah.

Right? When either B.I. or Zion isn't there, that's whenever they decide, like, oh, yeah, the rest of the team is going to start hooping. But you put all three of them together and there's still this, like, friction of what's going to happen to really optimize everything that they're doing. So that's why I would put them in C because the fit, even like, there's some, there's some trios on here that don't fit, but it doesn't necessarily hinder them. to like to actually be like bad they kind of hold themselves back because of it so that's a great analysis i still don't want to move them down but good points talent's too much still that's a talent for me yeah honestly i'm comfortable with the rest of this list i think it all looks fine what do you guys think any other ones you want to highlight that we

should talk about again i'm not arguing with you by anybody dear lower Yeah, I'm not going to do list Tearlist. There we go. And y'all, I think the stream is over. It was a good two hours. I think we got a lot done, got a lot of interaction with you guys. I loved it. And you had closing remarks. See y'all next week, Monday, and on the pod, Friday. Yep, yep. We'll see you this Friday on the pod. See you. Every Monday, 8 p.m. We're getting back to Mondays next week. We'll see you all later. We appreciate you.

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