The Deep 3 Podcast - Ranking The NBA Players Under The Most Playoff Pressure | TD3 Live

Episode Date: March 19, 2024

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We're alive. We're in a real eater's at. We hear. As soon as we get live, we hear Donovan and Mo debating the merits of hiccuping and whether it's manly or not. I, listen. I need to know. I need to go to doctor to see if it's like something that I can cure, if it's something

that's like wrong with me. I do hiccup fairly often. I think like once a day, once a day, I have a case of the hiccups. Once a day? At least like, every day is crazy. You need a man up. I feel like, and listen, maybe it's a little bit less than that. I do feel like I hiccup more than the average person.

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He's back from the hood. How are you doing, Mo? Demon home. Back from the hood is crazy. I am home. I am back. People don't know where you were. People were all saying that the hood took me back.

The hood took me back. Like, I got sucked into the shit. Shadow Room again? Yeah. I don't know where you were. I just told him you were a different country. That's hilarious, man.

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I needed this energy. Sometimes we were late and sometimes we skipped. Last week, I actually did miss it. Hmm. Interesting. Why did you see by the title today? It's going to be a little more of a podcast-y type of strain than we usually do. We're going to talk about the NBA players that have the most playoff pressure, most to prove this playoff run. We're going to get to that after we do a normal thing, right?

We're going to go through our doc, go through our new stories, talk about all the most recent things, do whatever. But after that we have some slander, I think, right? Some players talk about that have a lot to prove for negative reasons mostly. Of course. That's what you do best. shout out the jrm 37 for donate one dollar anyway let's get straight into the new stories let's get straight into the the main intro while you're pulling this dock up

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I'm talking to you right now Tragic Hey man First news story If you guys didn't see it Kyrie Irving Hit a game winning shot And it was gorgeous

It was One of the most high difficulty Game winning shots I can imagine And it happened In a big game I think versus the Denver Nuggets In which it looked like the Nuggets

We're gonna come back And still the win After trailing for most of the game And Kyrie wins In Kyrie fashion And you know Reignited the talk of Is Kyrie the most

Skill Player of all time Is he one of the best Late Game shot makers all this stuff, all his fans are validated with this sick-ass play. How did you all feel what you saw it? This is what he does, man. This is what he does. And I've kind of been like, eh, like what skill, like how are we defining it?

Nah, man, he got it. He got the tire. He won it. Left hand hook, a left-hand running hook for game is crazy. From that G2? It's 20 foot, 20, 22 feet away from the basket. It's damn near a three-point shot. That's a high school three.

Oh, my gosh, you're right. That is a high school three. While fasting, he did this shit at empty stomach. Oh, my goodness, Kyrie. That's crazy as hell. I could barely lift myself up to do 10 dips. You're doing this over a 6-11, 7-footer Nicole, which was playing really good defense.

It's one of the greatest buzzer beaders that I've seen in a very, very long time for sure. Yeah, man. It's glorious. And as you guys see, everybody's going crazy over it. The whole team is storming the court. it was just there's a clip of Luca looking happy as shit he's freaking out no he fell to his knees immediately as soon as he hit that shit he was just like he didn't know how to he didn't know how to celebrate it all he's like I can't believe it yo I can't do that's why and that's why that's why that's why

that's why kaii's like that's why this shy is one of like the greatest in NBA history because literally leading people to faith like lucca's dropping down to his knees to just think to just think to just think the heavens and be like oh my god how did that go in that this is what this is what Kyrie does. This is what watching Kairi play basketball at his peak is a spiritual experience. Hey, hold on Donovan. I'm going to need you to shut the hell up real quick. So first off, Kevin

Galicki donated $40 again. Appreciate you, Kevin. Archie just donated $300. What? What the fuck? Y'all spam up Archie W. What the hell? $300? He said, hey guys, been a fan for months

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Oh, my goodness. So no charge back, no charge, no charge. 12 hours shifts. People like you are the reason why this country moves so smooth. Shout out, David. Yeah, shout out Kevin Glicki. Shout out J.R. 37, donate another $3. And shout out Matthew for donating another $10.

Appreciate all, y'all, man. how do we have the most breaded fans I don't know we have a young ass fan base y'all are richer than everybody I know this is crazy yeah our base against any other base band for band put them up I dare any other podcast try us

our base our friends are bredded as fuck yeah I try to like lead the donations to after the thoughts over before moves the next topic but when someone comes in and drops three hundred dollars Donovan I'm sorry you gotta shut up I get it I get it yeah

yeah man Luca was over the moon this is the first time he's had a star teammate for real since the KP Ethan didn't work out and he's someone that how will Kevin respond what you've never banned for band says What you prepare to do Nobody believes in you

On to the next story LeBron James is a fucking podcaster now y'all La podcast is finally happening The Mind of the Game Pod him and JJ Reddick are going to have a pod where they dive deep into X's and O's and really talk basketball show people that LeBron James mind

of dissecting every play every week Tuesdays 7 a.m. Eastern. How do y'all feel about the podcast? You can't beat them, join them. Praise God. That shit is amazing, bro. So there was a clip that came out, and they were talking about

a whole lot of X's nose sits and sends frees for off-ball players like J.J. Reg and how a whole bunch of, they're just talking about a whole bunch of nerdy, geeky, and really granular shit. And this is what people like J.J. Reddick have been talking about over the last, what?

Was it last month when he was talking about, oh, basketball discourse is in the mud right now, blah, blah. Yeah. I went ahead and did it with one of the greatest yappers of all time, man, also Hooper's. Hey, LeBron. I love it. I saw a tweet where someone said, LeBron's so fucking goaded that his generic white podcast host

is a 15-year NBA veteran. Every player podcast has a random white dude next to him to nod and say, yeah, yeah, facts. His nod and say, facts dude is JJ motherfucking Reddick this man's the goats oh my god

this is how he's going to end the goat debate right everybody's going to argue for their lifetimes about accomplishments accolades all this type of stuff and Lebrons just could be like

yeah that guy MJ he's a dummy right he could never be as smart as me and he's going to show every Tuesday why he's the smartest player in NBA history why why his basketball IQ is tip top right he's going to put that

photographic memory to use and he's going to give us great content and this this is this is probably the best case scenario in terms of getting this kind of discourse and content out to to the masses right it's different when you have you know some random people doing film studies on their own YouTube channel and lebron james saying this is the exact play that people run this is how you should guard it da-da-da-da-da-da-da. Yeah, it always just depends on whose mouth is coming out of. Whoa. Yeah, but the most interesting part of me is they say whenever they announced a show,

they were talking about they're going to be up here talking basketball. They made sure to make it clear that this is going to be a substantive basketball talk. We're not doing that first take bullshit. We're not talking about narratives, trade that I'm not talking about my teammates, all this stuff. But, easy to say that now. I presumably they're going to be doing shows in the summer, and I guess, and it's going to inevitably devolve into some sort of, you know, narrative conversation. I'm interested to see how that happens once they get a lot of them under their belt

and they inevitably have to address some things. What's it going to be like to see LeBron like address like, hey, and address long-inning narratives we never thought we'd hear him talk about. Is he going to address J.J. Barreya? Who knows? That's probably what they're going to do in the summer. Like when there's no basketball, they're going to, they're just going to go back and re-watch old games and be like, yeah, like, we should have been doing this, da-da-da-da. And J.J. is going to be like, hey, you got logged down.

By this 5-10 Puerto Rican dude, what is happening? Like, what happened? We wouldn't even see it because JJ, or not JJ. Yeah, JJ Reddy, he's a truth. He believes that LeBron James is the greatest player of all time. So, if I'm reading the situation, I'll tell you right now that we're going to get some of the greatest propaganda from JJ in this podcast right here. Oh, for sure. I'm for it.

You thought that Michael Jordan did stand this propaganda when he executive produced The Last Dance, a document? Now we have LeBron actually have a mic in front of him. We're going to get pristine propaganda. He went on the shop and said, that's when I thought I became the greatest of all time. He's been doing that every week now. We're going to hit direct access to somebody giving his own propaganda, someone who believes his own hype.

It's going to be awesome. Oh my goodness, man. This is beautiful right here. And you know what this means also? Eaters, watching this right now. There's 420 of y'all. Only 175 of y'all like the stream. We have more competition.

days. How do y'all expect to go out and come out and compete with a 6-8 legend from Akron, Ohio? He's like, what, 280, 260 on a good day, bro. He's left-handed, hell, right-handed, Amber Dexter's. And you want us to go ahead and make this good content, but you can't even hit a like bun for us? I got to repeat with the NBA's all-time scoring leader for views.

Fuck! Shout to Kevin Glicki, donate another $50. He said, Archie, the band-for-band dub is yours. I'm about to put down a down payment on a house. I got a chill for a couple weeks. Hey, you chill. We appreciate you. Your work here is done. Motivational.

Next new story we got. You know, we made a whole TikTok and a whole segment of a pod a few weeks ago talking about the Los Angeles Clippers, how we believe in them. And how, after much hate over the years of making the show, we finally are pro Clippers. We fully believe them being a real contender. We all thought there was a second best team in the West after the Nuggets. They've since been on a bit of a skid.

They've been losing a lot of games. And then James Hardin looks tired. Paul George has been on a long, slanding drought now for a few months. It's been really bad as of late. And he had a quote today where he said, right now, I don't think we have an identity. How do y'all feel about this in the Clippers right now? That is crazy.

No, that is crazy. You don't feel like you have an identity? I mean, for Paul George, I guess, like the slump that he's been on has been unforeseen when it comes to him. he's usually one of the more consistent players in the regular season. And over the last, let's say, 18 games, he's been putting up only 20 points a game, which is still good, but it's not what he doesn't have, he didn't have the same input that he had once earlier in the season

and when they really got things kicking into high gear with James Hardin. So in my mind, like with players like James Hardin, who's in the later stage of his career, and also Kauai Linder, who always loves to take his foot off the gas when necessary. This is just inevitable. But a little bit alarming for sure. Because he lost to the goddamn ox. It's tough.

Yeah, they haven't been good as of late. How are you feeling, Donovan? I think Russell Westbrook is very important to what this team is. Listen, they were going through skids even with, like, yeah. I'm just trying to push some Westbrook agendas. I still think that they're going to be fine. I agree and I think that I think it's easy to say oh we don't have an identity when your your really identity is we have these quote unquote hoopers right we have these two big

wings and they're not really producing but we saw that whenever everything whenever the shots were going in everything was fine and is it a skid yes we see this from every team even the elite teams. We've seen Denver, not to this level, but we've seen Denver go through stretches this year where it hasn't looked as crisp. And so you've kind of thought for a second, like, are they okay? Is everything all right? This is obviously a little bit blown a little bit more. Once the playoffs come in, I think Kauai is going to turn up. He's going to be just fine. Paul George eventually is going to get back to normal. And then they just, I guess the big thing is, this is preparing them for playoff James Hardin,

and so it's a nice adjustment period for them to learn how to play once that version of Harding comes around. Yeah, for sure. The interesting part to me is three of those losses, they lost of the Bucks, the Lakers, and the Pelicans,

and each of those games, they got abused by interior scores. They had nothing for Anthony Davis, nothing for Yannis, which nobody does for those guys. Zion went the fuck off in this game I'm showing right now. And the Pelicans have obviously been great as of late.

They're actually about to catch them for the four seed, maybe. They're only a game behind. They've been fantastic as of late, and it was very clear in this game that this team has nothing to do with Zion. They have no answers. They were trying PJ Tucker out there saying, listen, go guard him, try, do something, get off the bench, dust your shoes off and do your best. His best wasn't good enough, and Zion was feasting. So there's a pattern there with those being three of their five losses as of late.

And it's not surprising, right? This isn't a big team. I think we could have assumed that something they'd struggle with is defending interior scores. obviously you know you have give and take when you have that type of perimeter talent something to keep your eye on depending depending on who their matchup is in the first round

it looks like it's probably going to be the pelicans like there's no way they're getting up it looks like there's no way that they're getting up to three they're four games behind the Timberwolves they're two or three and a half games up on the Kings right now four games and like you know to try and make a four games over like a 16 game span

is really really hard they would have to just fully implode to drop down to six. So I think it's going to be the Pelicans that they're going to play in the first round. So like do you all feel like if the series happened right now,

who are you picking to win? I mean, probably, I don't know why you Moab. Probably the Clippers, but I wouldn't feel great about it. It would be tough. I'm going to lean, series between the Clippers

and who else, the Pelicans. Yeah. I'm going to lean towards Coislander most of the time because it's seen and it's proven. But I don't say that, uber confidently because the pelicans have been coming for a long time you know what i mean by that yeah you know you gotta pause that one that was fine great all right they've been on the way

for a long time but i'm still going to lean towards someone like hawai leonard and paul's words like almost 10 times out of time considering the inexperience on the pelican side of things yeah i think yeah i think i think even with home court advantage i think i would still like If the Pelicans got to four, I think I would still take the Clippers just because as great as I on has been, I just, at this point in the season, and maybe this is foolish or not, but there's certain things that I have seen from every team where if I think that there is a like fundamental flaw in how you are in how you are built or five seen things for the last seven months that I just can't shake, whether if it's correct or just my own false narrative, that's what I'm going to hold on to going into the, go, going, I'm holding on that, onto that, going into the playoffs. And I just can't see the, the, the, the, uh, the pelicans beating the, beating the clippers. I, I think it's very, very hard for them to, to, to, they're going to be outcoached, right? I think Tyloo is a better coach than Willie Green is great too, though.

Willi Green's been cooking, bro, this season. I think, I think, I think, is he, is he, is he, is Tyloo not a better coach, though, than sure, but it's not a huge gap. I would leave them the nod over Willie and then outside of like wherever you think about Zion if you have Zion as like the best player in the series I would give the Clippers two and three or you know one they would have two of the top few players in the series so that's what I would take though yeah yeah yeah that matchup we'll see but another next two we have in this dock Zion Williamson has lost 25 pounds since the in season

tournament per Brian Winhorst and it shows he's been cooking as of late and looks fully back to being super athletic skinny destroying the rims eye on it's it's hard to bet against them when they're looking like this again they still have the issues of the things you said that they have some fundamental flaws right they're not going to be able to play units found chunis late in games it's kind of tough you can't play your five best players all at once at a playoff setting so the clippers matchup is scary because that's like you said probably who they're going to have to face but you got to feel better about the pelicans now than you did the month ago They've been really good

For sure But not good enough To beat the Clippers When's turning up When's trending down I don't know We'll see if they can lock in But it's much closer

Than you think On the left The dude on the left Look like he just got done Throwing down some yams Dude on the right Look like he can lift up Two whole car engines

On each hand He looks insane Pop-eye, he's basketball Yeah Pop-eye he's Thor He's fucking Larry the Lobster He looks insane The Pelicans

so far this season have had this is the best they've been in like 15 years I think the last time they were what, what are they like 15, 16 games above 500 was like 2011. You were 11 years old I'm in, you probably, you had like a box top or whatever back when the Pelicans were

that level of eliteness, bro. Box top is ridiculous to say. Call it, call it what it actually is. You know what it is. I did have a high top and I was rocking it. You're rocking the fuck out of that, bitch. Chat, on a scale of 1 to 10, how much do y'all believe in the Pelicans right now? Spam it up, I want to see what number y'all are at.

Before you type in, chat, remind you, the Pelicans, so far this season, have a record of 11 and 6 versus the top six teams in the Western Conference. It's very impressive. Yeah, they've been real good. Again, it's really hard to win. They have a starting lineup as a negative net rating. They're really beating teams with their bench and having lineups with Tray Murphy and Larry Nance in the game. really hard to win playoff series

and you can't play your best players all at once but clearly they're finding they have a formula that works with the really smart staggering of lineups I think Willie Green like Loki should be on the coach of the year ballot for that reason it's hard right

how do you feel about it to a team that's been good but has a lot of flaws and you have a thing in the back of your mind for a playoff setting it's really hard to gauge right now yeah one of the biggest flaws is the whole

Brandon Ingram at times and CJ McCong thing like one of the main reasons they won that Clippers game is that, or in the last few games prior to that, is that they literally just Ben C.J. McCollum. And it's sad to say because, like, he's just that liable of a defender. And also, you know what I'm saying? He best drives the ball in his hand. And if you don't have that, you know what I'm saying alongside Zion. Or if you have that alongside Zion Williamson,

kind of make his eye on, you put him in the dunger spot. You give him like the Aaron Gordon treatment, which is ridiculous. So, yeah, like, I feel good about the Neuron. pelicans and i also do feel good because guys like dyson daniels and lary nans jr and shit like that are becoming healthier and around the right time so i feel pretty good about them really someone said don't how to take his medication real quick i saw that i forgot to turn the AC down in here before we started it's kind of hot here too i need to mind up to um what was i going to say next what we got to talk about listen we did stream last week so we missed talking about the most viral thing of the year, y'all, we're done with the fucking 90s.

I don't know if y'all, y'all found out, but I've been informed. The kids on TikTok let me know. We're down with the 90s, and apparently so is the rest of the internet. How did y'all feel about this, you know, general trend and chat while they're answering? Let me know the comments. Are you done with the 90s? Okay, Donovan, what is your whole, like, scope of this conversation? Because the 90s is your bag.

Is it? I, like, okay. Okay, two things. One, the trend is hilarious, and I thoroughly enjoyed all the videos. Two, on like a deeper level and like a serious NBA basketball conversation, I hate it just because I, I already feel like basketball discourse is fractured as it is. And so seeing like basketball and the NBA is one of the only spaces where you cannot appreciate. appreciate like the past and appreciate the present and have people hating every single era at at the same time and so having having this trend go on it made me a little bit upset because I'm like we're never going to get to the point where we're just like this is basketball history we all like it and then boom but like but the videos listen keep them coming because I like to laugh I like to like to like to say like oh yeah he didn't have a left he couldn't shoot free throws like it's fine but jokes but I I don't like it as a whole.

Who gives a fuck? The kids are hilarious. That's all it matters. They're funny as hell. We've gone through 15 years of old heads talking down on LeBron in our generation because they're gripping to the nostalgia

of the 90s, wanting their air to be the best so bad because a new generation comes and tells them somebody's better. They're like, no, back then they were rough and rowdy. They were tough. And there's been so much hilarious vitriol to the new generation that eventually the youth is like,

you know what let's give them history and it's hilarious it's not that serious it doesn't really matter i think if you're the youth you should be as funny as possible all the time to hating 40 year olds so i'm pro in every single way wow you hate your own kind that's so tough to me man never seen something like that before but uh i can i can agree i can agree to a certain extent until like this shit starts happening to me when i'm like 50 years old and you motherfuckers are posting like 20 what 20 21 22 highlights uh lakers russell westbrook fuck that that's where i draw the line and try to make it seem like that's who he is as a player you can literally nitpick bad shots and just the most clumsy shit from any player in NBA history

especially today when like no highlights ever get lost in the test of time over here with how we are on Twitter and say like that. Never happened. One day they'll be done in 2010. It's going to happen. There's going to be a time where, and listen, and when that day comes, I'm going to say the exact same thing

that the people from the 90s are saying, that the people from the 2000s were saying, it's like, bro, listen, you weren't there. Like, you didn't see it with their own eyes. Like, go back, go and watch these games. You don't understand what was actually happening. And I will be ready for that. Because

you guys will not tell me that some people are going to try and go back and discredit like most said all these all these players and tell me that some eighth grader right now or some sixth grader is the greatest player of all time and that's just going to be you're going to be easy to troll you're going to be easy to troll and it's going to be great it's going to be hilarious and they're going to get your ass because you're going to be fucking put into a knot over people telling you

that stuff curry was a plumber then I'm going to be on the internet by then Oh no buddy You're being on the internet I got bills to pay Keep on it Yeah man It's just hilarious

Anyways we move on The next thing The best new story of the week Did you guys see The infamous jersey swap Of Grady Dick and Anthony Black? You guys saw this? That was crazy to see

Talks what do you mean thoughts they're funny whose idea do you think this was it must be Grady Dicks right look at Anthony Black smirk that's fucking for sure his idea look at his fucking smirk on his face no he looked like he well he knows

he looked like he was talked into it and immediately since he held that bitch up you regretted it he was like this is a mad idea man he's gonna get some nasty text from his parents bro actually Grady Dick is a podcast he's in the content game he has content brain i i bet this was his idea actually you knew the interactions you would draw you db is as hell and i now i know yeah he does with i think like palo van caro some shit like that with bleach report it's not with palo van caro he was a i think it was a guest

on it or something like that oh probably yeah i'm like another rookie though for sure random like group of people gritty big of palibank caro oh discourse i don't want to hear from I have a long list of NBA players that need to go ahead and do this with Grady Dick. I tweeted out yesterday. Kobe White, you're next. Nazeer Little. Obie Topping? We're looking at you.

Yeah, Obie Topping? You're next. There's so many players. Yeah, so. Numerous. Next thing to know, hopefully, it came back. Also, it was hilarious that as soon as this was posted, the following day, the Orlando Magic put up a hiring position for a social media coordinator. And it appears that they also immediately deleted this social media coordinator, posted that photo, and it was immediately deleted, and they put up a new job posting.

Whoever did that, did it for the culture. They died for the culture. Next new story, OG&W came back, proceeded to make the Knicks really good again. they are 15 and 2 with OGNobie in the lineup Donovan on the pod last week you said that OGNobi has passed up Mo as your favorite African in your life Knicks fans are over the moon

soon before we started recording this episode OGNobie's elbow flared up again per woge OGNobie is going to be out more than just tonight that right elbow has flared up again they need to calm it down how long he's out is unclear but it's certainly a concern thoughts I'm back

should never try to replace me that's what you get The dad come back. Something happens to OG. Now you need me now, huh, Donovan? What I didn't try to replace you. It just happened, okay? No, man, the dream's dead.

It's over. The dream's dead. The dream's dead. If OG is not able to be healthy, and Wode said in the clip on that that you're referencing, the Knicks still don't even know what's going on with Julius Randall.

And so the dream only works if all three of them are there. there. O.G. was out. Even him coming back from this injury was the windup was kind of weird. They said he was, you know, he was going to sit out a couple of days. Then it ended up, all right, we're going to take some time off. He had to go get a little procedure done. Then they said he'll be back in a couple games, set out a couple more weeks. Everything is just weird with this elbow. I have no idea what he's going through. It's been very clear over the last couple of games that like he's been fighting something after his return so that sucks and then again with randall and his

status i have no idea if we're ever going to see the lineup of brunson dante ogy randall mitch and mitch over the weekend he went on instagram and he was saying look i'll come off the bench right i don't want to mess anything up wow and so like that's that's cool and that sucks we're just never going to see this camaraderie because it looks like the vibes are all there between everybody but it's over the dream is dead you're yapping about buying finals tickets and shit like that on the over here on the screen like a couple months ago and now the dream is dead all right p man all right p i know tibs you will soon the documentary about tibs and how he's running players to the ground will be very interesting man that's all i got to say tough

Next story. What do we have next? Jordan Poole cooking off the bench. What is this? Jordan Poole admits that he wasn't able to play his game as a point guard until watching him move him to the bench. I wasn't able to do what I was accustomed to do in terms of how I built my game. So since Jordan Poole's came off the bench,

he's been averaging a cool like 20 points and four assists on like 46% shooting from the field or whatever over the last. I think it's been like 12, 13 games or something like that. And he looks like a different point. player for sure you know and that's like great news never mind fuck jordan pool i just remember i put something in his doc last second earlier today djadden was talking about his early season struggles he said my body wasn't just my body people forget the humane difference of me adjusting to everything that includes something as routine as getting proper sleep just being comfortable and waking up i didn't have a bed for quite some time i was on an air mattress just trying to figure this out i'm sorry

why the fuck is this multimillioner on an air mattress under any circumstance what is he talking about years old. You're a grown man. What do you mean? You're sleeping on an air mattress. You should have people in your life that make sure that you are comfortable like that. And the fact that an air mattress, how are you talking about? Not even about basketball. I'm talking about off the court. How are you living with an air mattress at the crib, right? How are you getting down? Because I don't understand that. This is ridiculous. Air mattress? This year, he's making $32 million a year. money go to are you just like

getting your money spoiled by your mom or a bad accountant or something like that what's going on an air mattress what a hilarious excuse I understand the general point

right it is hard to adjust moving across the country for anybody NBA players are no different and we often overlook stuff like that but an air mattress you sound unsurious you're making this harder

than it needs to be this sounds like it went from an understandable problem to a you problem. That's hilarious. Was he on an air mattress in the in the freeze when he couldn't come out and play? Because that would have been a just like a down bad situation. You're just in the crib. No, no comfy bed. You're sleeping on the couch. You can't drive anywhere. He's slipping a slot in everywhere. Come on, man.

This is why we don't take you serious, DeAndre A. This is why. This is why. Unbelievable. He's been cooking as of late, bro. He's been a lot. He's been a completely different player over the last what 12 15 games or so and mattress pad that's what he hit up Costco and got a fucking suitable bed and now he's a god yeah not quite literally bro over the last 18 he's putting up 20 and 12 on like 63% from the field he's back I guess god damn take one what you will I never sold my stock I've been broke for a long time holding on to it but I've held

on to it. He's, he's chicken, y'all. Maybe. All right, man, Raxo's donated $3. He said, what happened to Garland all of a sudden? He forgot how to play. His team will be dismantling to end the season. Sir, Darius Garland has been cooking recently with Donovan Mitchell out. You should go check his stats. But appreciate you for the three dollars. Lanchoos donated $1. Y'all, I hear, taking the clippers over the Pels as if the Pels aren't 10 and two against them over the last three seasons. Oh. Okay, relax. It doesn't matter. No one cares. Nothing.

I should have to card it around for donating $5. He said, are y'all going to Hoop Fest? We are not. I'm not sure what that is. What the hell is Hoop Fest? Some thing in Spokane, he said. And shout out to Elena, who just donated $3, said, gonna watch y'all while I break my fast.

Shout out to Elena. Elena, I was down in some hot pocket and also some yogurt and a banana muffin. Power to you. Banana muffin? Yeah. Okay. How do y'all feel about an MVP race right now?

per MBAAwardtrakers.com's NBAAwardtrakers.com's MVP rankings, they currently have Shea as one, which for some reason was tweeted out as news. I don't know. I just look at it was in the dock, whatever. But, you know, there's been a lot of talk really about has Yokish wrapped it up? You know, they're still fighting for the one seed. Do you guys still see it as a race, or is it just Yokic obviously to you right now? I would give it to Yokic, but I see, and I think like a couple months ago,

this is what I was thinking about when we get to like late. season discourse where if the thunder end up with the number one seed there's going to be a push for she to get the MVP award and it's obviously here um i i would give it to yokech just because i think that he has been better but i can understand the case for she yeah for sure i'm on the same way of link i personally would rather give it to yokech because i think he's the most valuable player being true to the definition but you know i'm saying hey who am i to ever vote against shay goes out like grander you know i know who i am ears like i have been given this for like a christmas present for a reason bro you don't know what it is it's a pair of undies that isa

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You look at me have a stream on your birthday, Donovan, or knew your birthday. Yeah, did y'all see Bama at Obio's game winning three? I did. That was so weird. Bam out of Bio gaming three is not a sentence I ever thought out here, but he smacked his bitch to win against the Detroit Pistons. How did y'all feel?

Pistons fans, they know no good in this world. They have no joy. They just don't understand how to win. And Bam, shout out to Bam, though. Because this is actually, like, a crazy, like, not shot to take, but it's a nice evolution. Facts. Of him being able to feel comfortable trailing to take this three right here. That's good.

In that sense, that's where I like this shot. That's far. It is. And listen, he had to throw it up. I don't know if he would have did this if it was up to him. But, you know, people that say a lot, that they believe that BAM could be a good shooter if you ever start taking them for real. You see stuff like this? and you're like, I know you can hit those.

I want you to take them. It's never really become a huge part of his game. But I'm just waiting for the day where one day does. Like, we all see it coming eventually. Yeah, exactly. I 110% agree. Seeing Bam take this and immediately, as soon as it goes in,

Evan Fornier just has no reaction or isn't punting that bitch because it's like, bro, how much worse can his life get? He's lost to a deep bandbubio. Oh, I didn't see that. He kicked the hell out of my bum. Yeah, now that will not happen in any universe, bro.

happened to you on that specific day Evan Fournier specifically. And you got to find 25K today for it. So it's tough. That's tough. But I love to see a good man. Shout out Bam on my bio. Yeah, that's all the new story that have written down. We should go to the main topic

of this episode. We are going to rank the NBA players or teams or coaches or anybody involving the NBA with the most pressure on them come playoff time. I told both of you guys to bring five. So, you know, we're ranking a quick five, five each. Hopefully we're about 15 people probably going to be some overlap but real simple right who's under the most

pressure who has the most to prove who has the most allegations above their head all that no let's do it donovan as a resident hater in chief who is your number five on your list number five goes to jimmy butler that is my number five as well okay yeah yeah i jimmy has been playing this playoff jimmy card for a while a couple weeks ago right he had a very He had a good game, we're starting to yell out. It's that time acknowledging the idea that once the playoffs come, that he's going to turn up. We, everybody is okay with that idea,

with Jimmy Butler taking the regular season off because when the playoffs come, he starts averaging 35, right, 7 and 6 or something crazy. And we're like, if you're going to do that, do whatever you want for the first eight months. It is time for you to turn up and average. It's 35, 7, and 6, and if you do not do that, then we have to look at you and say, okay, the last two years, you're able to do it. Can you do it moving forward? And if you're not going to do it, you need to try during the regular season.

You can't be the one taking games off like that. So he is under a lot of pressure, in my opinion. I agree. Even if you don't, I agree with you 100% that the stick is getting old. Even if you don't think so, there's just a tremendous amount of pressure about your team just like forcing you to be Batman every year and just turn into a Super Sayan in the first round and will them to victory.

Because otherwise, if they were to get regular with Jimmy Butler, they'd be a first try to exit with ease. So it's like he becomes Michael Jordan or they flop, right? That's an immense amount of pressure. Yeah, and while it is an immense amount of pressure, if he does flop, no one cares at the end of the day, or at least not many people will seriously care because we all know what the real ceiling of this team

should be theoretically, but because of Jimmy Baller and the witch draft that they've been producing over the last few years, we know like that things are just skewed. So I can agree with it, but this only applies to Jimmy Buller specifically. And for all the eaters out there, don't misconstrue it. It's not a fight towards like the mine, just Jimmy Bullitt specifically. Yeah. Chat, how much do you guys believe in Jimmy Butler right now?

Actually, a bit better question. On a scale of 1 to 10, how much pressure is on Jimmy Butler? Spam it up right now. I'm going to do, we can do so every person we talk about, how under pressure is Jimmy Butler right now? and so obviously we think he's under pressure because like he has to do a lot if mo you said that if he doesn't do it nobody will really care is that true will you guys not care if the miami heat go out in the first round no i would care i would i would care a lot because the only way that i wouldn't be like crazy crazy shocked is if they played the boss in

seltics in the first round but if they lose to anybody else in the first round it would be a disaster because the Eastern Conference, at least to get to the conference finals or to get into a position where you play the Celtics, it's wide open. It's Boston and it's everybody else and it says wide open. And so you need to take advantage of these opportunities, especially with Embed, probably not going to be there, especially with the Knicks being down, especially with the Cavs going in and out of injuries. Like you have to take advantage. And if you don't, it's a complete failure. Complete failure. Nice. Okay. How about you, Tomo? Complete failure, man. I can agree to that, but also at the same time, like I said,

the Miami hit or the Miami. They haven't, Dave, this is genuinely a better team compared to last year because of the strides and improvements that David Robinson, I said David Robinson, my bad. He's not walking to go ahead. David Robinson would be crazy. This team would be the fucking finals leader, bro. Or they would be, for sure, they would for sure win the finals.

He was in that bitch. But, no. If you were playing them on a bio with David Robinson, Would they beat the Celtics? It depends on a version of Jimmy Butler you're getting. But like, assuming you, if you get playoff Jimmy and David Robinson, they win a time? I don't know.

Do that? I don't know if they beat the nuggets. I don't know if they beat the nuggets, but I think they get to the NBA finals for sure, at very least. That'd be a sick duo. That would be disgusting. That would be disgusting. That's just Gordon and David Robinson.

So, like, yeah of course that's hilarious I'd be great I agree though this this heat team is such a weird team throughout the course

of NBA history like when have we ever seen the team consistently be in the contender talk while consistently being a 7th through 8 seed like it's so strange how they work

and how they've like shifted the NBA narratives right like people normally in most years I bet in the future we're going to talk about playing teams as being like irrelevant but we've seen this team and obviously lakers last year too

make conference finals runs and make the finals coming out of the play in and right now people still think about it like oh you know any year you get in you can make that run they might just be a ridiculous anomaly anomaly that continues to do that and find a way to get in the conversation off of sheer willpower like we're probably going to look back to them in a decade and being like this team was absurd and just does not make sense yeah we could the last team to go ahead and make the NBA finals as an eighth seed was the New York Knicks in like 99 you know they literally are brain breaking and they just defy all NBA physics you know literally doesn't make any sense especially last year because it's really like as time goes on their team looks so much worse

on paper than it does like right now because of internal improvements and ducking robinson and Tyler hero was back and they have Jaime Hawkes who's just a a very good use of offensive player even though he's a rookie right now still so now like this team is a major anomaly because of the variance and how people view them on a night or not even a night to night basis on a month to month basis yeah right chat i started a poll will the miami he make a run i want to know what you all think what's your guys's opinion like do you guys think they have it in them again can they like i don't know catch lightning in a bottle again like that's so difficult to do what they did last year do you see this we're all high on them post terrier

right we all thought to make them better and in theory you know they had the ability to but do you think they'll do it again given who they might face in rounds one or two well i said on the show last week that and you know we're going over hot take to forever contender my hot take for the miami heat was that they would go out in the first round i don't think that wow i don't i don't think that they have a run in them i don't think that jimmy butler is going to be able to turn up and go crazy and do all that stuff and if they played like the bucks or or even the calves for that matter they might get first rounded if he doesn't become if he if he doesn't like you just said if this version of jimmy butler even 15% more than what he is right now

i do not think they get out the first round yeah i have a hard time picking the calves over them which is strictly like what i've seen in the past bias where it's like We know what Jimmy's going to do, and all we have for this Cavs Corps is Lash's playoffs and the Knicks just punched him in the fucking throat. How do I not pick the Miami Heat in that situation? And I feel like we're good for at least one playoff series of Jimmy being God, right?

Like he's going to get one in there before he burns out. Like Lashor, he offers 38 against the bucks in the first round, and then immediately came back to being a little more normal. He's got at least one series of superhero playing him, I think. 30 is crazy. I know. 30 years. So what was he on?

He makes no sense. He makes no sense. But we can go ahead. transition because you mentioned the cabs just now isaac they are on my list when it comes to teams that have the most pressure on them okay they're not on my list is interesting yeah they're on my list because of course last year they got embarrassed in the first round they got first round exited by the new york nix nix of course a great team but a lot of people just did not have them upsetting the cleveland cavaliers in such fashion like it's okay being first

surrounded if it's a seven game series or whatever but in the playoffs it's i think people really underestimate just how you go out they went out extremely sad evan mobley went out looking like a completely different player looked like mr robinson's a be word he just like it just beware like everything just did not make sense and all the expectations fell on their shoulders so if i'm the new if i'm a cleaving cavaliers fan you sit here you analyze donovan mitchell's future or everything is not necessarily cemented. But you have to imagine if you have a very bad first round exit again, or even if you failing in the second round,

no one should really care about. But if you fail in the first round, some changes might need to be made because at this point you're just wasting your side. Interesting. Yeah, I didn't put them on my list, but I understand it, obviously. They're clearly going to be at risk of their team falling apart,

especially with Donald Mitchell as a looming free agent, right? They're going to check in on what his thoughts are after the season. and if he's not ready to commit long-term, you've got to make hard decisions, and how they show up in the playoffs this year is it going to be a big factor in deciding which way they go with that? I was pretty high on them last year

before they fell apart. Were you don't even not remember? I think I was high. Obviously, not going into the playoffs because they were playing the Knicks. But actually, I actually think that, I think I picked the Knicks to win. I can't remember how I was feeling about that series.

But I know that before the season, I was kind of high on Cleveland. And even coming into this year, I felt like they could, they could do some stuff, which, which they have. But yeah, I think, I think that's, that's pretty much it. Also, listen, we're not even at 400 likes yet, which is crazy. Like, as many times, as many times as we are telling you guys to like this stream, y'all, y'all got to support. Y'all got to like.

Please, though it was a smidgen of likes. We'll beg on our knees. Yeah, I appreciate you. And shout out to Tanny G to donate $10. Appreciate you. Mod, shout to you. That's our Discord mod. But I don't know.

I was really high in the Cavs last year, and I fully thought that they could make a run. I was like, this team has the capabilities, the ceiling defensively and offensively to make a conference finals run if the cards fall right. And obviously that was the opposite of what happened. The cards fell terribly.

I feel so cautious about them this year where they're better, right? They have more shooting now. Another year of development from all their guys. Jared Allen's playing fantastic. DeMitch is playing just as good. did last year when he made all the NBA there's no reason for worse about them

other than maybe less continuity because Garland and Evan Mobley missed a lot of time but it's like when a loss like last year it's hard to go into the next year without feeling you got to see it you know yeah you can't give the you can't give the world a graphic

that of you saying the lights are too bright and then think that we're going to go back into the next year and like really trust you so I do get that when it comes to the cast yeah and what interesting to me is over the three games or so that Donovan Mitchell just missed

Darius gone and was cooking He was incredible He had like 28 points And it was going crazy The game before last before D Mitch came back I see how ever gonna be able to do that While D Mitch is there Like they have to find a way to click at the same time

And we just haven't seen it It's kind of like with Zion and Brandon Ingram Zion's been cooking lately And Ingram's stats a little bit down If you can't have both of your lead guys Be at their best together It's hard to scale up in a playoff series And really make a run

This is something we need to see a trade happen there is garland you need to be in new warrants pelicans and brenna ingram i hope you enjoy the weather in cleveland that would be cool and that's a little swap for sure i don't know how i would love it with cleveland considering like there's a little bit it always feels like brandy ingram's over is always overlapping someone else's skill set who i feel like might be better off like being the main or hanging all hitting control certain things but in general I love that idea. Yeah.

Okay. I like that. So Cleveland is your number five team? Yeah. And your number five was Jimmy Butler, Donovan, who's also my number five? My number four, let me pull my thing up. Who did I have exactly a four? My number four is Jason Kidd.

Wow. I think if the Cavaliers, I mean, the Cavaliers, if the Dallas Mavericks stay in the playing and lose and don't make the playoffs at all, he's as good as fired. He's fucking out of there. and I think they make to the first round and then they lose in the first round and anything less than a hard-fought seven-game series he's fired as fuck.

I think he has such a short leash that this team has to make a run or his job is almost a guaranteed out of there. He has a lot of job security because he's really close with Mark Cuban and Nico Mannion the GM there. They kind of came as a package deal. Jason Kidd was played in Dallas

with a long-standing relationship there. It gets him a lot of good grace with the front office and ownership there. So I don't think he's ever run under the microscope that Mazz fans want him under, given his lack of success as a coach, I think, there. He hasn't done a whole lot to elevate the team if we're just being generous and being kind about the way we classify that. And, you know, if they fail again, they're not going to get rid of Kyrie.

They're not going to get rid of Luca. They continue to shuffle their mid around them. But again, a new coach will be the next logical conclusion for how to improve your team and give yourself a chance to compete. Only because of how good Luca and, you know what I'm saying, Kyrie especially has been as of late he I feel like when I watch the Dallas Mavericks team sometimes I'm watching them like you what have you done to elevate this team you could pick up a random fan from the stand sometimes and I'm like maybe he'll do just as good of a job

but that's only what I see personally you know so I said Nico Manion I met Nico Harrison yeah Nico Manion I knew I knew what you meant yeah I said Nico Manion though I know it's not Niko Manion. I let you cook. Let you cook. That's hilarious. But yeah, Nico Harrison, what were you saying? No, yeah.

I mean, I was saying that I 110% agree. I think if it's not, if they don't make it to the second round, it's a shame. Because I think a lot of people understand that this Dallas Mavericks team in the playoffs should have, in regards to what their record says, higher expectations. And they need to at least make it make it to the same. second round there's no excuse why they shouldn't because luca's on your team and also kairi and you have made these adjustments that haven't changed the absolute world for them but they've been better you know yeah so those are the seasons they're there i agree chat how do y'all feel about

the mabs now on a scale of one to ten how much do you believe in the mabs because they're so up and down you know when they're down or when they're up people were like oh a sleeper team they can make the conference finals watch out for luca and kairi then they lose four the next five and everyone's like maybe Luca Donchish's style of play is not conducive to winning and maybe He'll lose citrusism will never work and people think piece the fuck out of it like he's not Luca Donchich

and then now they're winning again and it's just real quiet you know like the general consensus is so up and down how do y'all feel about him right now like do you have faith that can win a first round series I do I have faith and once again

I'm gonna tell you all I talked about the maps on on last episodes and my hot take for them that I love key i'm starting to to believe i think that they or let me take the standards to make sure it's still possible um but yeah so it is i think that they end up getting the 60 over the kings and i think that they end up playing the minnesota tim wolves in the first round and if that happens they will

beat the tim wolves in the first round yeah but no can i can see that yeah i think i think that like the streak that luka has been on has been insane and he's been able to dominate i mean seven straight triple doubles, like he's doing all this. If we're getting Ramadan, Kyrie, where he's out here winning games with left hand three-point of hook shots, those two in one series can provide enough firepower to where everybody else is going to fall in line. And then ultimately, it is also just about the Tim Wolves not having enough firepower to match with them.

Because like you said, Isaac, when this team is up, they're up. And when Luca and Kyrie are going off and they're scoring, there's a very, very, you know, very, very short list of teams in the entire league that can keep up with them. And I think that right now they're playing, they're playing well. But you're right. That's why the pressure is on Jason Kidd because we see it. We know the potential. We gave the Mavericks credit at the deadline for winning the deadline just by bringing

in Daniel Gafford and PJ Washington. Bringing in some athletes, bringing in some people to round out that roster. There's no reason why they shouldn't make it out the first route. Yeah. And again, whenever they're down, people jump the conclusions and they find someone to blame. and lately it's been Luca because he gets all the praise in the world and hasn't won to show for it and that's how it goes when you're an all-time great player and haven't won yet you know we saw it with LeBron we saw it with KD we saw it with Hardin we see with everybody who's in the upper pantheon

and does never ring you're going to get hated on to you prove yourself to the masses it's fine it comes to the territory but the first thing we really got to put our focus on is Jason Kidd he has to do something to optimize his roster I follow a lot of mass fans who have been frustrated by his use of the big men since all the trades at deadline I'll give him some credit he needs time to figure out the best way to use all these guys but it's been up and down there's a phase where he was using Maxie Kleeve's so much

when Daniel Gaffer was clearly being so effective and not getting as many minutes now they're starting Gafford and Derek Lively's running with the bench and people were like whoa whoa whoa don't bring Lively down from O Gafford Lively's the best one and like he has a lot to figure out in that regard

we'll see if you can do it but he's going to have to really step up to the plate and like out maneuver some elite coaches in a playoff setting not sure his bag is that deep his only out maneuver that he has is like a yo luka do some crazy shit please for the life of me hey oh kairie do some crazy shit for the life of me yeah and that can only go so far as the head coach and he's front offices will snuff it out and man that free tech coming in every month or

whatever might might disappear it's almost a jason mid mid is generous the bottom five coach in the league i don't know why he just keeps on getting these jobs like when they hired him i was just like Because he's a Hall of Fame point guard. He has fucking clout and the ability to mess up and get another chance because he's Jason Kidd. Yeah. The only thing that came out of his career is putting you on his career is putting you on except point guard.

Geez. He's not even a point guard. I don't know why it's a big team he can give him credit for. He's not a point guard. It didn't stick. Who's your next player, Donovan? Tyrese Halliburton. Oh, interesting.

Okay. Yeah, a bit under Fraud Watch. Tell me about it. We were quick. us three. And I think all of us still believe in Tyrese Halliburton, right? For sure. As being an elite player in this league for years ago. But a lot of people, including myself, were quick to anoint Tyrese as one of, you know, the best point guards in the league, hands down. After the end season tournament run, I mean, he was averaging 25 to 12.

He was awesome. 27 and 12 for a while. Granted, he got hurt. And that has affected a lot. However, since he he came back from injury the last 21 games this man is 16 points nine assists four rebounds on 45% from the field which is decent it's whatever it's good but 29% from three that's a big one there's a bit of a fraud watch for tyrese and i i'm i'm nervous just because if if the pacers get into the playoffs and he has a bad first round it's going to be a nasty off season for Tyrese Halliburton. And there's going to be a lot of,

there's going to be a lot of people that are going to look at what he did at the beginning of the season, think it's a flute, think he, you know, just turned up for the all-star game because it was in his hometown and then proceeded to not play well

for the rest of the year. Again, granted, he got hurt, but I do feel like there's, there's a nasty off-season waiting if he doesn't show out in the playoffs. I get that. Yeah, Tyrese has been worse. A lot of the slandity that's come

is just, well, from what I understand it, he was, like you said, everybody rushed to crown him as a top five point guard because he was playing at that level and everyone was like praying on his downfall but they couldn't say anything

because he was playing so well then as soon as he fell off everyone's like, I told you that motherfucker was whack his jump shot's ugly you should have never did it. So much of this is bad faith, right? His jump shot is falling off the grid.

People were like, see his superstar trial is up do y'all really believe he's going to shoot 29% from three on a regular basis? be fucking for real a 40% 3-point shooter for his career and that's the biggest change

you think this is gonna lash I think this is who he is obviously it's a cold streak that maybe he isn't gonna be the top 4 point guard in the league that we saw him be for the first two months this season

but he's certainly not gonna be this bad going forward right that's obviously due for some positive regression even if you think the initial hot streak was due for negative regression he's at least somewhere in the middle

and clearly took a step as a score that was sustainable it hasn't worked out for injuries then he came back and there's nobody he'll did to adjust to that have to adjust

to Seacom all these contextual elements that makes sense for him to have a slow start he's somewhere in the middle I will say though free trial is hilarious Superstar free trials is funny

like I ever came up with that you were in your bag good job yeah but he'll be fine long term he's going to be a star but if he's going to be playing this this Coltrory is

no sign of an ending yet really tough for their playoff outlook if this is going to be how he's shooting. Yeah. Yeah. What made Tyrese so special earlier this season, everybody at least should have known that he had to playmaking on lock, but the shot making and the range in what he was using that earlier in the season

is what set him apart and is what, like, helped him leap over several young stars that had to even point guard the players in general earlier this NBA season. and like going back to what you guys said seeing how bad that he's been wrote through like whether it be injuries or roster adjustments or you know what I'm saying actually getting his chemistry right with Pascal Seaccombe like this is

this is impossible this cannot be him shooting 36% on the year for him is terrible considering he's a 40% shooter every single year of his career yeah and again I think he'll be fine long term but there is a lot of pressure right because he gave himself the superstar standards from that early play, and

he's getting the slander now in the regular season. Like Donovan said, going to be a cruel summer if you had to deal with that for a whole time because you fail in the biggest age. Look at DeVant de Savonis. Last year he was cooking, talked about one of the more underrated players in the league, flop hard as fuck in a playoff setting

and dealt with a ton of slander. Now he's got his name back in good graces. People are back that he's underrated. We'll see if he can carry this positively. Tyre's Hallamor can be on the same watch. It's only because he beat AD. He beat the Lakers. He has wins over AD, and they hate, they hate Anthony Davis more than they hate Sabonis.

If you beat him, you got it. Dude. Any way you can shit on AD, people are going to go for it. Even if he's bigging up somebody that don't actually believe in. Yeah. Bro, facts. I think I saw Paul Pierce on Undisputed. That show is down in the trenches, bro.

He was like, oh, I'd rather have Sabonis in one game rather than AD. Said some atrocious shit like that, bro. Sure. Good for you. I got a few donations to read out real quick Gavin loves La Isaac Honey donated $1 He said yo love y'all boys man

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as of late let's get a little bit unserious so a couple of months ago Kyle Kuzma of the Washington Wizards went ahead and tweeted out Nobody wants to be that team referring to the Detroit Pissons when they're on their atrocious run atrocious lump of just like getting a whole lot of L's you never seen nobody get Ls like that ever before in NBA history historic right and now as we speak the Washington Widge's are quite literally the worst team in the NBA by a couple games they've won 11 games so far this entire season and lost 57 the Detroit Pistons have more wins and less losses than

them now they are the team that nobody wants to lose to it's tough Kyle Kuzma what are you going to do about it nothing nothing he's going to post himself in a picture of like Rick Owens or something and just be like yo life is good he's not going to do a damn thing to hope there was more games that's not happening 11 and 57 These motherfuckers are money laundering. That's ridiculous. 42 and a half, a whole half a season. More than a half a season.

42 games back at a first place. Look, you thought 2016 Cleveland Cavaliers versus Warriors is the greatest comeback of all time? No way, Jose. This is the greatest comeback of all time. In the worst way possible for the Wizards. Black Colobali is out for the rest of the season. too.

It's tough. What do we do about this? We have to like, we're going to call somebody, some government being, some kind of entity has to get involved in this. What does their schedule look like?

Do they have another game that they can win? Let's look at it. I got to pull it. Next up they play the Rockets with no Sangoon, but the Rockets have won a lot of games

as a place since Singung got hurt. I'm going to say it. The Rock is going to clap them. Kings? DeMontas a bonus 40 point triple double Clap them Maybe they can beat the Raptors Who are down bad without Scotty Barnes

They won't They won't They won't The Bulls See you never know They're not being to Marta Rose You never know though Okay

But I'll give you the I'll give them the L Okay they got Bulls Nets Pistons They got a Raptors Bulls Nets Pistons They gotta win a game out of these four This is a shitty easy lineup it might be the only chance they have please let them lose please let them lose I want to see them lose too please let them lose please let them lose chat comment how many more games do you think

the wizards are going to win they got two 14 games left 12 games I think 14 more games just 14 games left how many games you think the wizards are going to win two I'm gonna say they might be I think so they definitely get one from that Nets Pistons, Bulls and Raptors they should get one of those

They could be the Blazers They could be the Blazers They could be the Blazers they play the Bulls twice down the stretch they play the Wizards I mean they play the Raptors twice down the stretch They should be able to get one of those And then maybe beat the Blazers at home Okay

Yeah Two wins The Blazers game is a win. That's a, it's a, that's a day game. Day game, Blazers have to travel across the country. Oh, you know, DeAndre ain't not coming for so. Nah, he's going to be tired. Bed shopping.

Okay. All right, man. My next player, speak of the double. Number three, DeMontes is a bonus. Woo. Okay. Even outside of me feeling like I'm crazy because I think he's not that valuable when everybody else is like,

I'm almost underrated playing the league. Even outside of my feelings about his style of play, Lashers' playoffs did not go well for him. Dremont Green made him look unplayable in a playoff setting. Granted he was in with a hand injury, so we can give him some benefit of doubt there. And Dremont Green... And Dremont Green stomped him out

why he put the fear of God in his eye. And even outside of that, Dremont Green is a genius level defender. If you're going to have somebody to expose a flawed big man, Dremont Green is the one to do it. So if we're being generous, it was a worst-case scenario for him health and match-up-wise, this year he can have a bounce back

if those things don't go negatively but there's not exactly bad defenses for him to see in the first round he's probably going to see another great defender it might be Rudy Gobert it might be Chad Holmgren which maybe that's a matchup that works for some bonus but you know there's going to be tough matchups to come out

and this team is firmly mid this season right there have been the 16 for a long time didn't get better as the rest of conference got better and the only way this team has any hope of seeing a feature for themselves that's profitable and, you know, leads to winning is if he shows to be a good playoff performer and we can really see him in Deer and Fox

rise to the occasion and go shot for shot with the other best players in the league. If he doesn't do that, we're really going to look at this team's long-term outlook. Man, oh man. Yeah, like, I can agree with it. I can agree with that to a little bit. Personally, I'd rather put the growth.

Well, you need some bonus to go ahead and show up on a night-to-night basis. It starts, the conversation starts and ends with your best players on the team. And Sabonis is one of the best players, one of the two or the best player on the team, depending on how you feel about Deering or Fox. And yeah, like I can agree to that. I would also say guys like Keating Murray, you know, or whoever else needs to develop their game offensively for when Demona Sabonis does have those astronomical, astronomical shitters.

You need another reliable often. getting another reliable option Malik Monkey sadly can't be enough all the time you can't expect to give you 25 and 5 every other playoff night you know what I'm saying Ashtonical shitters Yeah Your star players should not be having astronomical shitters

In the playoffs Yeah So there's a ceiling He's that sharp pack Yeah Mail that to him Listen the season of today They'd be playing the Timberwolves

I fear for what Rudy Gobert would do Desemontas a bonus in the playoff settings and the discourse that would happen if it happened two years in a row. It's a horrid matchup. Worst matchup you could ever draw up for him, bro. But if it ends up being the clippers somehow, which probably won't be actually not looking at it,

okay, so it's either the Nuggets or the Timberwolves. Not great either way. I mean, it could be the Thunder. Sure, it could be. That's probably the best matcher for him, offensively at least, to do well. Defensively, I don't see him being able to run onto the perimeter and defend Shed Homegren his base.

He's going to get fucking obliterated defensively. Listen, they have to, let's take a step back, though. They need to focus on getting into the playoffs. Because I understand they're six, but they can barely easily drop down to seven or eight. It's firmly in the playing. And if it's Deeran Fox and Subonis on one side and Devin Booker and Kevin Durant on the other,

For one game, I'm taking the Sons in that matchup. If it's the Kings and Luca and Kyrie, I'm taking the Mabs in that situation. I know that they have ran all over the Lakers. You're not telling me that in a one-game scenario, LeBron is not going to run as fast as he possibly came to make sure that the bonus doesn't beat him. They're winning that game.

Chat, do you all think the Maves are, do you all think the Kings are getting out of the plane if they fall, chat? Let us know. they better hope that they end up at six man and the warriors we saw the warriors you're doing last year the warriors are going to obliterate them again yeah they're in their house drop there might be a legit situation row over this season against rudy gobert this dude subonis is averaging 17 points three points below his regular average and he's shooting 13% less efficient than he

usually does that like that is like 13 He's soon 63% for the season right now, as we speak, and only 50% against the Timberwolves. 13 is massive. That's like an alarming rate right there, bro. And that doesn't make me feel good. My bad, it's not 13. It's 11%. But still, that's still.

Yeah, so insane, bro. So, yeah, it's not looking good for them boys right now in the playoffs in terms of matchups. Yeah. And what does that mean, right? So if it happens again and we don't, the whole point of this I'm saying is Sabonis is under a lot of pressure. If he fails to live up to it again,

what happens? Honestly, for any other star, something will probably happen is the Kings. And this is their first, like, this is the first era in, honestly, this entire millennium that they've had legitimate success. They're keeping these guys around.

Yeah, you can't train them or anything like that. All you got to do is just hope for LeVell. and hope that one of the random young guys like Keegan Murray or Keon Ellis or someone like that, please, with the love of God, damn. Keon Ellis, nice. Give us some type of impact, bro.

Before we get to our next player, chat, we currently have 518 likes, 782 of y'all in here. Do us a favor, drop a like, help us stream, see more people. Mo, who's your next person? Rashi Donovan, your turn. My turn.

We're talking about nasty conversations over the summer. Luca Donchich, show up, show out. I believe you, I believe you, I believe you that you are going to show up and show out. But you were saying it earlier. People already are talking about like, oh, you can't win with Luca. His play style isn't conducive to winning. And right, we've heard this throughout basketball history.

Everyone's just going to, if they lose in the first round, they're going to call him whitehearted, right? It's going to be kind of nasty. I agree Jason Kidd is going to have to get out of there But the conversations around Luka Dantridge is like Is he just a ball hog? Is are the Mavs cooked right? Like they have him and Karee can they just do anything It's not it's not going to be well if they don't win a playoff series I think that he a hundred percent needs to go like God mode and win a series by himself

Yeah, I'm not going to be willing to say he's under pressure because I am of the opinion that it is not his fucking ball if they lose, but you're right that there's going to be that pressure from other people that are making bad faith dumb arguments. So you're right, that pressure will definitely be there whether it's deserved or not, I think. For sure, yeah. We can, we can gloss over it. Like, if you guys don't think that there's, like, actual pressure, then, like, it is what it is. I just think that when I, when I'm thinking about quote unquote pressure in the NBA sense, like, it's just, it's all really about what nasty conversations are going to come out of it. Because these guys, like LeBron said in 2011 he's like i'm gonna go home to my wife and my family i'm wake up in this nice

house right i'm still gonna be lebron james like everything's gonna be fine for lucca if he if he loses in real life oh course of course yeah that's not the conversation we have man i get it that's okay conversation but there is something to be said that like if you're clearly one the best players in the world you can't have two years in row you don't win a playoff series so i understand why people go that direction i think it's dramatic but just you should win a playoff series when you're playing this well right that's fair to say but then you realize your coach is Jason Kidd, and the third best player on your team on a night-to-night basis

has been, like, I don't know, Tim Hardaway, Jr., Max Kee was even, like, relying on him for as a real impact player, super tough. I can't name another top five player in the NBA who's been as down bad in the mud as Zuka Donch has over the last few years. You can't do it. So that's like I respect to take Donovan, but it's too hot for me right now.

yeah i didn't think i would look like that what he said i might though who knows we'll see we'll see how i feel after the first round but but yeah that it will be there yeah that it will be there yeah exactly shout out to osama bin hooping for ten dollars my same and shout out to elator for one dollar a bunch of worlds shout out to osama you thought i was gonna make it there wow Jesus. Y'all pray for Mo. He's when he sneezes his brain's up.

Bro, facts. My sneezes are super powerful, but I feel like whenever I sneeze in my eyes just enlarge. It pop out of the socket. Every time you go, you make the oxygen level in the room come down a little bit.

That's racist as hell. It's crazy. It's crazy. I got it. It's a strong. No, that's good. He just rixed his up. Dave.

Oh. Oh, my God. Okay. Next team under the most pressure. Oh, man. That's funny. The Phoenix Suns. Does anyone else have them on the list or am I the only?

I definitely don't. do they're not on my list they're my number one on my list oh man i love to see i love to hear it i love to hear i kind of did my list out of order a little bit but in my mind in terms of pressure they probably deserve to be number one considering all of the assets that they gave up since that finals team they have no players other than devon bucker who relies who remains on that roster they have nothing going forward in the future cap locked or bradley bill has a head lock they've only played i don't know i don't know off the top of my head how many games they played together as an actual trio

KD Devon Booker and Bradley Bill Has it been as much as you'd want Someone's always going down with injury So it's just like the perfect recipe For disaster And as of late, they've been slumping hard They had an embarrassing loss of the Milwaukee Bucks Yesterday without Yon's Tena Kumpo

Let's what's his name? Bobby Portis running around out here like he was Prime Ryan Anderson. It was ridiculous Ryan Anderson, nice Yeah, I agree They have not been good, and it's alarming to their future because, no, we see a lot of all-in moves like this as of late, right, making these super teams and multiple stars. Typically, there comes a certain level of regular season's success, and it comes down to what they do in the playoffs. This has been by far the least successful with those in the regular season, right?

Like, even when they're healthy and they're, you know, showing you who they are over a long sample size without injuries, they're kind of just mid. At a certain point, they're showing us who they are, and I don't think they're good enough to make a deep run, do you don't mean? No, no, I don't. I think we've seen kind of like this evolution from KD where he's still going to get his, but it doesn't feel like the same impact as what it used to be. And I think with him, Bradley Beale, and Devin Booker,

it's a lot of balls to go around. see how it fits in the playoffs because look here's the thing when they are all firing that offense is very much like kind of unstoppable but they are like when all three of them are on like if you have three bucket getters who are just getting buckets at the time i know that's what i'm saying i think that you can have a situation i think you can have a situation where like last year in the playoffs against denver kd and booker were on fire and you can kind of represent that with three high power scores like them, I don't know if they're going to be able

to, one, rely on all three of them to be healthy throughout the playoffs to make that happen. And then, two, I also just think that other teams have more immediate depth, right? Like, not even talking about your sixth, seventh, and eighth man. I'm talking about four and five, right? In your starting lineup, it's better, and that's probably going to end up winning out.

Chow, let's go to one to ten. How much do you believe in this on right now? because I just don't see any reason to really believe in them more than like a four or five right like they have not had a great run where they click things together on both sides of the ball Kevin orance their best defender by far red flag Devin booker's the best passer by far red flag hugely reliant on Juse of Nurkich fucking crimson flag gigantic flag raining across the sky

Bradley Beals your third best player and he's never there the biggest flag I've ever seen right like there's so many red flags going up and down and so little things to hold on to them have you seen this season to make you believe that they can really put together for the time necessary and for what they gave up

and for how all in they are if this team doesn't work out this year they're probably not can get any better next year who knows when there's going to be light at the end of the tunnel when you're building around a superstar as this old it's kind of spooky for your son's fan it's spooky as hell

especially when you're sitting here watching them play against the Milwaukee Bucks is out you're honest, whatever, whatever we feel about them. They're still one of the better teams at the Eastern Conference. The Boston Celtics. They've been on a historic run post-all-Star break. Okay, cool.

Outclassed again. They faced the Denver Nuggets a cut like last week or so were a week and a half ago, and they actually won great game by Kevin Durant. I thought I needed to... Hats! Damn! You faked himself out. I just pumped faked.

I was like, I thought he did that. Oh, no, there you go. God damn, bro. Allergies. You can take my meds. Okay. What was I saying? They just seem outclassed by a lot of different teams.

And it just feels like everyone is stretching their hands to the max capacity. And it just feels like they don't have the bandwidth. It's a good corporate term. I used to pull that on my bag all the time when I was in corporate. anytime I didn't get shit done yeah man I didn't have the band with honestly is there any current playoff team that has a bleaker future

is in the Phoenix Suns Playoff team Because obviously there's shitty teams in the bottom Like the Wizards have a very bleak future They won't be good for quite some time Same about whatever other bottom feeder You want to talk about They're in the playing in

Considering like they don't have any Any of their fucking picks They sold their soul for a couple of years years of Kevin Durant and also Bradley bill for the entirety of his contact, which is a truck, which is an atrocity. How do you feel about, and I guess the sons might win this or lose this, depending on how you look at it because of the lack of draft picks, what, how bright is the future of the Sacramento Kings for y'all?

I mean, you know who I feel. Not very bright. The future is now. Exactly. I don't think that they have a future. I really think it's just right now At least Darren Fox is young Kegan Murray's young

You talk about them differently They're on like They're on like different spectrums I feel like in terms of like What Each team has like How much each team has to lose I'll compare them to a team like

The Dallas Mavericks maybe Because you bought all in So much Dallas Mavericks It doesn't look like it Because pick protection and stuff like that But hey but they sold in so much in terms of like building super mid teams around Luca Dantzes on a year and year out basis and you've done the same thing with Devin Booker this past year.

So I compare them to that light because these two players in my head, if their organization keeps on goofing up, they're going to face the same consequence, which is their star player ended up being like, yo, I don't have shit around me anymore. I got to go. And all you do is disappointment. Yeah.

It's tough, man. They're so all in. They're my number one. They're my number one by far People don't talk about enough Like this is a disaster wayne to happen Of like 2010's Brooklyn Nets level proportions

If it goes a certain way They had just about The same amount of disaster a season Or more of a disaster season Than any other team in NBA this year For sure Amen All right Don what's your next team

Two-parter Okay Zion Williamson and the New Orleans Pelicans Wow How do you specify Zion Williamson because Zion Williamson has had an up and down season and we've seen him we talked about him earlier we've seen him at at his quote unquote lowest where they are getting blown out by 40 points in the in season tournament he's out of shape and everyone is obviously doing the thing where you're

questioning if you can build a team around Zion and then you have the second half of that where he's turned around he's lost he's lost a lot of weight he's been hooping and you see both sides of it so there's that that's one and I just want to see the next step for Zion and now that you are in shape and you are kind of being put more in a position to affect the game can you rise up to the challenge

and the task whatever and let's see what you look like in a playoff series that's one the pelicans get added to that because as we've talked honestly at like nauseam up until this point they have too many good pieces

and it doesn't seem like a lot of things fit. So after this playoff series or after this playoff run, what does the team look like? Are you going to move on from Jonas, from Brandon? Is Trey Murphy going to end up, you know, getting into the starting lineup? How are we going to maneuver things? Unless they win a championship this year, moves have to be made in New Orleans. So that's why there's a lot of pressure on them because they just, they need to figure out where they're going as a franchise. 100%. They're There's such an interesting inflection point. We talked about them heavier earlier. They're so good, but have such limitations to that ceiling

like super high floor higher than most people in the playoffs limited ceiling and it's like that's a hard point to be at for a GM because you don't want to mix up anything too much because you have a winning formula but you know you had to make a big leap like it's what we saw with the Raptors for a while

before they traded for Kauai we saw it with shit the bucks now before they trade for Dame there's obviously mixed success when you make those type of moves but that type of move is probably necessary for them right? Yeah Yeah, and luckily for them, you know, they traded away Drew Holiday a couple years ago, and they have picks up until the year 2027, thankfully through that trade.

Also, the whole AD thing happened. They have another Lakers pick this summer, and over the next two years, they have five first round picks, you know. That means a lot. That's a lot of picks. That's a lot of picks. And they also have Milwaukee 2027 pick, which would be hell of valuable. depending on what happens with Damila, but at the same time, as I remember,

oh, Yon assigned that big ass Macs. So I guess it's not as a valuable. For regards to the fact, to know the pick and a pick is a pick. So they have the flexibility. I think all eyes should be on them, but I wouldn't, me personally, I wouldn't say they have a lot of pressure

because this is the first time that we might be able to see Zion Williamson in the playoffs, barring injuries, like, happened last minute. Yeah. They definitely have a lot of, they have a lot of vehicles to their disposal to get better.

They just have to want to get better, you know They have to agree that they need to make a move But that's a lot of patient named out They have a lot of interesting opportunities I don't know who's going to come available this summer Obviously Donovan Mitchell's name is always in the mix Tray Young I don't know who else

I'm blanking on who else is rumored Maybe they want a Zach Levine, I don't know There's going to be options out there Yeah, yuck You're from Donovan Mitchell, Tray Long to Tray Young to Zach Levine? God damn What a day?

Yeah, but there's going to be somebody out there that they can afford to go out and get if they want to. They just have to be willing to get rid of some of their depth, right? Which is ridiculous. Yeah, it's going to be a tough box season. They have decisions to make for sure. Yeah. I have one player left since I have the son's number one. My number two, Damien Lillard.

I think Damien Lillard has been fantastic his whole career, has been hosting on a not very competitive team because, listen, they suck ass, and he couldn't do anything about it. he wasn't quite good enough that he had the type of expectations to lift up that ass like a Luca Donchage does so he just had to succumb to his ass and just deal with it and be ass with the ass now he's finally on a great team now he's finally on a great team and he's the swing factor right like he's the way that they're either going to be a championship contender and be like top tier hard to beat or they're going to be disappointing and we're going to see the defense holding back and the offense never quite clicks and everything right like it all starts and stops with how he plays next to Janus.

We know what we're getting from Janus. What second option game looks like will decide their ceiling. And if he doesn't do it, it's like, oh, God, this trade was a mistake. And we are the oldest team in the NBA, and we have no more picks to do anything with. And we're just stuck with an aging small point guard,

which is never a good recipe for long-term success. And our star is out of options. Do you think that anybody... Obviously, there's going to be a little bit of slander if the bucks don't make a run. but given the turmoil at the beginning of the season and the fact that Doc Rivers is now their coach, do you think some of that pressure from Dame gets alleviated

if they don't win? No. To where you can kind of just like chalk up. You don't think you can like chalk it up going into next season and be like, all right, like we have a full training camp, full year, all that type of stuff. I don't think it'll be like they're doomed. So I think you could tell yourself that like they'll be better next year

when they have more time. But there's still a lot of pressure. you can't waste any year. Dame is not young and he only has so many prime years left and we see every game that Yannis sits, he goes berserk, he still has that in him. He just, for a variety of reasons,

hasn't been able to capture that with Yonis on the court with him. There's going to be pressure inherently no matter what would you only have so many years of a window? Like who knows what Brooke Lopez looks like next year? Every year there's just like the sand and the hourglass is getting closer

and closer to the bottom of when he eventually becomes washed. You don't have any time to give yourself benefit of the doubt that next year's the year. tragic yeah i think in terms of for me when i think about damien lillard i agree with your whole sentiment of course but when it comes to dame miller i look at him and i'm just like in terms of like how a lot of people view you as one of the i don't know maybe four now best point guards

or three whatever way you want to slice it best point guards in the NBA your stature and just how people view you may be dwindling just a little bit You know, and that's just due to the father time. And, of course, like with how he's played over the last few years. So I can agree with that. That's fair, very fair. So who's your next player slash team, though? How are you doing?

So I got, I believe, two more teams. Most storied franchises in the entire NBA. The Boston Celtics, of course. No shock to everyone. That's yours as well. Yep. mine is the two part i've tatum and the celtics i literally wrote the exact same thing tatum celtics in that order let's go let's go yeah tatum has been by far the most privileged superstar

in the entire NBA and i haven't seen a more privileged star in years bro than someone like tatum you come into the league bam you get paired up against or you have kairi irving and gordon hayward as your vets and you get put behind any aims as you're you know as your gm you got you got second year players like jenn brown he just been putting a really blessed situation you're in and you're out always has one of the best coaches along his side always has one had before this season or the deeper teams uh in the entire NBA just always seems to be stacked and when it comes to light to bring the brightest something always happens and the card oh the deck of the cards always fall it's partly because of you

Damn, look at that. They have pressure, I agree. I don't necessarily think it's like fraud watch or anything. I just think that this is one of the best teams we've seen in regular season history of our lifetimes, at least. And to not win with that would be a travesty of wasted opportunity. You don't get many years like this where everything clicks on every level and you're just like by far the most dominant team in the league for start to finish the whole year. That comes to pressure no matter what.

Even if you feel like you're very capable of doing it the next year, if you don't win, It's just sheer wasted opportunity. Yeah. And I think especially at this point before Jaylen Brown's extension kicks in, like you have to go ahead and think about where we were last year. And even the year before that, 2022 finals, Tatum gets outplayed by Jaylen in the in the finals. And you have kind of all these conversations, nasty ones,

but you have the conversations bubble up of like, is Jalen Brown better than Jason Tatum? God, I remember those. That's so stupid. It was awful. But then you have last year where they're the one seat and they go down 3-0 and then they lose in Game 7 to the heat.

And it's once again, you guys underperform. And we're at the point where people, we've seen the Celtics get to the conference finals, get to the finals multiple, multiple times. And for Tatum, who has tried to, wedge himself into the MVP conversation. If that's what you want to do, okay, fine. If you want to be the MVP, you want to be an MVP candidate.

Rise to the occasion. You're going to have to lead your team to the finals and do what all the other MVP candidates are doing. And we have yet to see that consistently from Tatum in the playoffs. We've seen moments, right? He's gone crazy in the last four minutes of game six. He's had 50 points in a game seven. he swept KD out of the playoffs

we've seen it from time to time I need to see it for a full for a full run and when you have like you said the best supporting cast in the league from two through six now's the time so yes if he does not get it done

the slander will be no short of glorious slander for like four months and it'll be deserved too because you're never going to have a better chance to win the finals than this year if you can't do it it's not meant to be like as simple as that

this core is never going to do it if it's not for this year and i think if it doesn't happen this year all my by not biases but a lot of thoughts that i've had and fuck let me just call it biases right a lot of thoughts that i had about jason tannum have will will be like true at that point in time you're saying you're getting nasty agenda's off and you're not going to stop i respect it bro next year next year Jaylen Brown is estimated to make $49.3 million

Good for him that's a fuck ton of money that's a bag that's a bag 35% of the cap goes to Jalen Brown next year estimated

but whatever and another 35% to Jason Tatum or is he only on 30 probably 35 as well let me let me check his contract real quick

well it was 31 35 when he signed it but now the cap's changing but he's ridiculous right they're all in in the truest sense even if you believe they're going to make it or believe they can make it back next year pressure comes yeah so next year next year next year's estimated 25% of the cab goes to tatum oh okay still a lot so 60% of your money is going towards those two guys you don't know what al forford is going to look like either coming back

coming back from next year drew holiday is also um i think his extension like that time is is coming up as well where they have to start talking about that stuff so it's a lot of money to go around in boston a lot of decisions and then they need to get a chip right now yep who's the next team no who's your next team oh hey last team that i got second most or one of the other most storied franchises in the entire NBA the Los Angeles lakers interesting uh man it's just so sad i don't even know if the pressures are right word for this team I guess in the context and I'm about to mention it is because, of course, Alfred Sengoon is out for the season,

and you would expect a team like the Houston Rockets to, like, cool off and whatnot, but they aren't that far behind Los Angeles Lakers in terms of seating-wise. And also on top of that, what makes things a little bit worse is seeing them finally give up that nut spot that they've been holding for dear life for over the last few months to the Warriors now, who just beat them the other night. so in terms of staying in the playing there's a hell of a lot of pressure for that

because the rockets have been cooking one of the best defenses in the entire NBA Dealing Green has stepped up to the plate over the last few days and he's been that guy was just Western Conference period of the week congratulations but yeah that's a lot of pressure

yeah it is I didn't put them on my list obviously because I just think it's fucking cooked I think it's over I think this team is ass and as a Lakers fan I just have not enjoyed this season whatsoever for many elements

from start to finish actually I take the back I enjoyed it when they won the end-season tournament and with the four seats for a week and a half and it was like oh shit they're getting it together then they proceeded to stop getting it together and completely fall apart and I just think they're not good

and I think they're not going to be good since the All-Star break they are fourth in offense and 27th in defense they have clearly decided to go all in an offense and they've been humming on that side but it's Anthony Davis against the fucking world on defense

he has to defend everybody it's like you're watching those teams where it's one offensive player and a bunch of bums around them and they have to like just carry everybody by the fucking power of their sheer willpower that's what 80's doing defensively Delo Cone

LeBron doesn't try as hard as he did Lashor defensively that's the thing we've seen the most father time hit him with Rui Cone Reeves Cone it's just not been any help in any regard, and I don't see how that gets better in a playoff setting, especially if we don't know if Jared Vandible is going to get better.

And I just, I don't think there's pressure by the simple fact that we know what this team is and they suck and they've wasted the LeBron era. They destroyed their team after 2021 when they made the Russell Westbrook trade. We're just wasting the aftermath now and the just the price you pay when you make decisions that are that bad. If they miss out in the playoffs, hell will break a loose, bro. I'm telling you that right now. If they miss out again, I want LeBron to leave, even as Lakers fan.

want him to free himself from the shackles to the Los Angeles Lakers if they miss the playoffs again. He does not need to be doing this. Let him go somewhere else and have a career worth talking about. He won't leave. He won't, but I wouldn't blame him if he did. That's gross, bro. That is so sad and gross. I hate the Lakers front office at all my fucking heart.

I hate the ownership. I hate it so much. I hate being a fan of this team right now. I sit back and I think about the fact that at one point, I got to watch Alex Caruso, Danny Green, Contavis, Caldwell Pope, Kyle Kuzma, Dwight Howard, all flank my two-star players, and then they proceeded to lose all of them within a year and a half for no reason. Definitely one of the worst rain organizations, so interesting to say that they're one of the worst-rain organizations when they traded for LeBron and Ad.

But that doesn't take, like, that's not a brain genius move, you know what I'm saying? I see GMs and I see, like, all the low-key moves around the corner. That's a real, like, that's where the good GMs separate the. themselves from the great GMs and Bob Palinke has proven himself to be neither of those things they had a winning formula of being huge suffocating every team six five Alex Caruso six six Danny Green six five KCP LeBron six nine Kyle Kuzma six ten Anthony Davis six ten Dwight Howard all just fucking beating you down low every single possession and then they decided to add Russell Westberg into the mix and

completely abandoned the winning formula we have witnessed an all-time great fumble of talent at an all-time great level and it's been talked about obviously but not as much as it will be five years from now when we look back and see how it finishes and see it go out in tragic fashion

it's really embarrassing it's embarrassing keep going so I'm going to chat with Don looks like he needs a nap yeah he would be tired of you want to look tired I'm honestly not tired Yeah man

The Lakers suck And as a fan is disheartening And I just can't wait for the next era Whatever may be Because this one's cooked Tough Love to hear it Hey but Yokes is thriving

So my other favorite player is doing great Back to back on the way Oh bro Yeah nah Good luck Hey at least Deanzo Russell's Having a great season as well I guess

Good for him He's making shots taking us so far, isn't it? Unless you got to ask. He's over here talking trash to Dennis Schroeder and like making sure everybody knows like, yeah, man, Darwin Ham's a little weird sometimes

but I just go ahead and push through it every other day. And they didn't fire Darwin Ham, they didn't make any moves to the deadline. This fucking team is awful. God. What's your next team, Bonham? Do you have any left?

No, I'm done. All right. That's the end of that. What do y'all want to do next? who's playing tonight what are the games looking like let's check chat what games are y'all watching are now let us know chat what are the good games that y'all been watching tonight i think the games tonight are kind of shit right now we got let's pull this up six or see oh never mind

because it's sixers heat never mind two wolves jazz jazz up by five second quarter oh Nick's word should be kind of fun Mix Warriors is interesting. Oh, games, home. Okay, NBA.com is confusing me. Yeah, so right now at the heat

and the same sixers you're playing, no Joel and bead, yawn. Bulls, trailblazers, the trailblazers are money laundering, yawn. Timberwolves, jazz, no cat, yawn. Kings Grizzlies, yawn. Nick's Warriors should be in a dressing game tonight.

Yeah, definitely. The Cavs are faced off against the Pacers, and the Cavs won by five, from 108 to 103. Tyree Salibor again falls below 15 points. Oh, bro. I hate to see it. This man's meeting his heart out again.

Rolls this outline for, let's see. 14, 12, and 6 in 32 minutes. I'm sorry, my Siri popped up again. This thing is, every time I say sneeze, Siri pops up and I can't hear you guys. Carmen. I'll say, yeah, 14, 12, and 6 for Tyrese. Okay.

Yeah, but he shot like what? One for nine from three. God damn, he's trying so hard to get that shit off. I feel so bad for this point. At this point in time, question for you guys, is Tyrese Halliborne making an all-N-B-A team? I wouldn't vote him all-N-B-A when he's been asked for fucking over a third of the season. Yeah.

He might. I listen to Zach Lowe pod. Is he going to make the games? I think he's, like just barely, right? Yeah, that's why he's been playing so shitty is he's forced himself to meet the games because he'll make a lot of money to make his all-MBA. That's why he's been playing. through it and he's been looking like dog shit

it's got a badfire go through it though so like you have Luca Shea Brunson DeMitch DeMitch Curry's been better okay

How many are you at the guard or is Jaylon Brown's been better Jaylon Brown deserves all NBA spot over him at this point definitely definitely this is no you don't even have to do guards because there's no position for the first time this year yeah yeah oh he says no chance then there's no oh yeah he's cooked yeah no he's up for him man he was so good to start the year

yeah his lens hanging run is over oh my god yeah man well i think that's the end of the stream i think it's everything we had to talk about today we did our job we dust our hands off when you lay your head on that pill tonight just know i give you all i had what do you mean i love it i love it i love it we'll see all next right eaters shout out to archie for doing $300 what a fucking beast good god man kevin licki your spot is taken