The Deep 3 Podcast - Ranking The Top 30 Point Guards In The NBA | Ep. 231

Episode Date: July 16, 2026

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Today marks a very special day. The fourth time in the show's history that day has come around. What day? Beesoles. Yes. What is today? 30 point guards. Three lists.

One judge. I will be the judge for these three gentlemen's point guard list. Damn, sounds serious. Hell yeah. This is as deep as my voice can go. 26, by the way. As you guys hear by Biesol's expert read, by the immense energy in B.

souls read. We're here today for the first edition of 2026 ranking season. We are going to rank the top 30 point guards in the NBA as of today. We'll get into some nuance about who we're going to project for, how we deal with injuries, etc. But trying to gauge the lay of the land of today's. NBA in the summer of 2026, the top 30 point guards. Like I said earlier, it's the fourth year of our ranking season.

My favorite time of the year. This is the fourth year where I have to stand on shit that I don't necessarily believe in. But I will have to believe in it. You could just believe in it. Yeah. It's your rankings. I believe in it. But then maybe two minutes later, I'm like, oh, yeah, maybe you should have been like two spots, three spots lower.

You're a lot of turn your mind. Not right now, though. I have to, like, dilute myself. Okay, whatever you run on this list You got to stand on a matter of what Yeah, exactly Yeah, at least for a month Otherwise, we're gonna kill you

We're throwing it back Whoa That's crazy He was bragging I hope you didn't say The cranium is crazy Oh my god Crowd Eaters rejoice

All right B- Souls Pull up that list Let's get straight into it who is up first for the 30 through 26 tier. All right. First up, Isaac. Ooh, I have Fred Van Vleet at 30, Damian Lillard at 29,

Josh Gidea at 28, Emmanuel Cookie at 27, and Jalen Suggs at 26. So as you guys see, we have Damon Lillard and Fred Van Vleet on this part of my list. Who wanted to include the guys that didn't play this year

just because, well, one, it got real stinky, listing some backup point guards I didn't feel like rating. Also, I just thought it was a more interesting thought experiment to try to guess

where these guys are going to be post-injury. So every other player on this list, we're gauging who they are as of today the last time we saw them this past season. But for the injury guys, I think we're kind of try to play doctor a little bit and expect what we think they'll be like after the traumatic injuries they dealt with. So I said Dame allure

is still going to be a top 30 point guard, so it'll be a starter, but I kind of expect the like superstar days to be gone when you're 35 coming off in Achilles tear. I don't really know if this is doing too much though. Maybe he'll be closer to 20. I have no fucking clue. What are you expecting from Dame? Like stat line was.

I don't know He's playing with John Morant's 15 and 5 Like he's gonna have to let John Morant Dribble And Denny dribble Those are the guys They're like

You know They need the ball in their hands Not the spacers So I expect like Third option usage Damien Lillard Great shooter Still do

You know With the secondary units Of those guys in the bench Still do a lot of point guard duties But like I guess he's gonna play Like true shooting guard What is the average

Like 19 points a game Yeah Low key I'm kind of with it Like I see the I see the vision of Dame doing that. And you think it's good for him to do that?

Yeah. When you're a bad defender, though, at 35 with post-A-Killies? This whole team doesn't make sense. I'm not really like interested in that. I think for Dame, I'm mainly looking at the scoring. What does his lift look like? What is his burst to the rim look like? Can he get downhill at all?

Can he play make a little bit? And I think figuring out, yeah, figuring out that trio of Dame, Jha, Denny, the job aspect of it, and maybe I'm just super low on job, but I'm just like, there's a very real possibility in my mind that like you're not here in 40 games. Like I don't really know what to expect for him. But I think for Dame, I think he can come back pretty well. And I think the fact that his range and his shot, like he arguably is the second best shooter that we've ever seen.

I think he's, I think he's in the conversation when you start bringing up like range and volume and difficulty. and all that type of stuff. And so I think that that stuff carries. So he'll be, he would still be good. Yeah. I think he'll bear minimum. Like, for me,

personally, I have him like decent size amount of higher. I think it'll probably be an all-star caliber guard. I'm not sure if he'll make it yet. But I can definitely see like 24, 23 being a part of his game. And I can definitely see the shooting still being there. I don't know if the like breakneck burst and all these high flying dunks that he used to have a couple of years ago. will still be there. No. But that is true. Like, he's what, 35 years old? Once the first goes, it goes and there's not much room for error. He's not going to be great if he doesn't have good

burst. Like, we keep, like, yeah, I get it. The shooting is a trait that sticks around and you'll always be a good shooter, right? He's not six, seven. It's not like he just shoots over people and doesn't need to create space. He's an incredibly burst reliant player that if he's going to be six foot one and not be able to get by guys, not be able to have that maneuverability with being able to sell his ability to blow by you to do the stepbacks off of that. If you can just sit on the stepbacks because you're not worried about him getting to the rim, that shot quality is going to go down the drain because you're 6'1 now shooting incredibly contested shots off the dribble.

Now you're more relying on offball movement and stuff. And once again, he is 6 foot one without a birch assuming post-Aquillies. Like, I would be, you said 24 points per game is in the cards. That would, if that's what he was doing before the Achilles tear. I would be so surprised if we saw that. I hope we do. I'd be great to see him come back and be an all-star. but I definitely wouldn't be betting on that as like my expected outcome.

Well, he had a whole year off. So, I mean, I think Dame has one more, maybe two more like elite level years in him. And I think if I also have like a wild prediction, I think he's going to be the normal Damien Lillard that we've seen just last year or two years ago now, I guess. I hope so. If we talked about Kevin Durant being able to do that. Kevin Durant also can't burst anymore. Katie's, yeah, he's just six-elevent. Yeah, he's just completely different.

So I'm, we'll see. I think I can buy that like the Jason Tatum thing, 26, 27 years old. You can be young and I'll say we can get past Achilles' tears. Halliburton, I think it'll be fine. He's young. You can be old and get over an injury like an ACL like Irie. I can sell myself on that.

But Killies plus old, I'm not getting my hopes up. I feel you. But frankly for me is like the only old person who I just don't feel good about at all. Because even like before the ACL, pre-ACL, he wasn't moving crazy. He's never moved crazy for real at all. he's a heavier set, it's more stocky point guard who, you know, has value, but he's never been like a good paint score, and that's not his back at all, never been in his back. He likes to shoot from range and take a lot of deep contested shots. And knowing that he's coming off the ACL,

knowing that he hasn't, okay, again, didn't play for the entire year, I don't know how good he is. I think he's going to be a good player. I think he's going to add to a team and add to these rockets tremendously considering how dire their ball handling is. I don't know if he's going to be top 30, man. I'm just so shaky about how he's going to move. He had no burst to begin with. No, I'm actually really, and now he's going to be hooping with ankle weights to me. Yeah, maybe, maybe the, the familiarity of these guys is just, is getting to me. I actually feel pretty solid about Fred going into next year. Like, I think he's going to be okay. And I think the time that we've seen Fred, especially over the last few years since he's gotten to Houston,

they've really been looking at him to do so much offensively. And part of the reason why we were so excited about the Rockets going into last years because, okay, Fred, you can just be, like, Fred Van Bleet, you don't have to be number one score or trying to be this, like, this volume score for us because you're the only one who can actually create a shot for themselves. We have KD now. And if he's still going to be on the team, then you can really allow Fred to just, you know, facilitate the offense, just kind of fade back into probably what his natural role should have been over these last couple years. I think you're describing why he's important to the Rockets and why he'll be, like, a good addition to them, probably have good

on off numbers because we know how desperate they've been for that specific point guard that skill set where they have all these guys where like please do point guard things in a man reach shepherd and so forth that they just couldn't do it so i think that's a good assessment of why his return matters a lot for the rockets and their ability to be a contender that isn't scream he has to be like a top 20 point guard again to me i think that could be the case and he's still a 35th best point guard potentially like maybe i'm i don't know i'm i'm i like him i like him too he's a good guy i hope i hope he's good same a little alert I had to put them barely on my list just to like salute.

But I won't be shocked if both of them are like further down. Or if they, you never know if they have great recoveries. True. Can't say. But I expect we should be a little more pessimistic. Yeah. Than optimistic potentially. That's fair.

Giddy quickly sucks. How do you feel about that? giddy didn't make my list. But he was definitely like, I don't know, I just think that if you have Giddy as one of your five starting players, you have zero shot, unless you have like a monster team of being an actual. good threat in the Eastern or Western Conference. I just think he handicapped you so many ways. He's a good player. He's not bad, obviously.

But I don't know if he's top 28 for me. I do fundamentally think you're not going to win anything with Giddy being one of your 30 million point per game scores or bringing players. I definitely do think like you're not going to win a championship with him. You're just starting point guard. But at a certain level I do with the respect, averaging like 19, 9 and 8. Like at a certain point, you do do things well. I think the weaknesses, the fact that against a good

set defense, you're not blowing by anybody to create a rim touch for yourself, which takes apart your passing value if you're not going to be able to consistently create a paint pressure. I think the fact that he can't shoot, but it's obviously not a like, it's not a defense bending type of three point volume to make up for the fact that you can't really get to the rim like that. The defense is just very, you're very easy lick a lot of times in certain actions if you get to move your feet. I do think those weaknesses outweigh the positives, but that's still a talented player that probably is better than like Colin Gillespie or whatever.

Yeah. Or Davy on Mitchell who I left off the list. Like, Giddy's probably better at basketball talent-wise and deserves respect his strengths more than those guys. Yeah. And that's, that's cool. Sog's didn't make my list. Oh, wow.

No, I think the... I'm definitely cutting him bail, but on the offense and stuff. I definitely am. The shooting this year, like, forget the playoffs for a second, but the regular season, the shooting wasn't amazing. During the playoffs, It's damn near unplayable offensively.

And when you factor that into his reliability in terms of just being on the floor, the things that you can check off that you know that you're getting from Jalen Suggs every single night, it's been declining every single year. And the fact that he was shooting 24% from three, that's really, really tough. And I want to go back to this idea

of what we saw a couple years ago where the shot started to come around, but it just hasn't been consistent enough over the last two years. years and now I think that that one year where we saw the improvement that was more the anomaly. So I just, I can't trust Jalen Suggs right now. I can definitely understand that. And again, I'm definitely giving him a pass for the playoff performance to some regard because it was just so downright horrific.

I'm like, no way he sucks that bad. Yeah. No way he's garbage like that. Like there's no shot. He's this goddamn horrific. Surely that was just a bad couple weeks. But if you wanted to say that it was so goddamn horrific, he can't be on here. I understand it.

he's just so good defensively that I'm assuming even in the regular season the advanced metric say that impact wise he was pretty much neutral offensively which checks out to me for that team his darko offensive plus minus is minus point one

so basically zero exactly zero offensive impact exactly zero you do exactly nothing offensively to make your team better I'm almost rather like have a negative impact than like just be zero yeah

and that's obviously that doesn't mean Your offensive skills, but it means relative to who was on the court when you're not there, you know, relative to another average point guard. You do nothing offensively. But defensively, he's quite the positive. So I think if somebody was quite the positive offensively and absolutely nothing defensively net neutral, we'd reward them and say you can be on this list. So I went here for the same reason you'd want like Alex Caruso on a shooting guard list. Yeah. We know offensively. Carl Caruso turns into a three point demon in the playoffs. So he's a bad example. But regular season, we know offensively. You're going to be regular. You're going to not fuck us up. You'll be. You'll be. give some spacing, you'll be able to attack close out here and there, running transition. But defensively, you really move the needle. You kind of are our identity. We need you out there. There's a reason their starting lineup has an insane net rating when all five guys are out there.

Suggs is a point of attack defense is incredibly vital to that. And being able not only be your main point of attack defender, but also a playmaker that bring the ball up, that's a rare combination of skills that I'm just going to hope and pray he shoots better than 17% from three in a playoff series. That's also the thing is he's been in two playoffs in his career. I get it. And he shot below 30% in both of them for three. I understand.

Yeah, it's not crazy. It's tough. And as you, as you look at him in these playoff series, we start getting to games five, six, and seven. And all the adjustments have been made and really is starting to get to, you know, let's roll the ball out. When you're also, when you're, when you're shooting that percent and you're taking eight three's a game, right? His volume is there. You got to give him credit. His confidence is always, is always there.

He never loses confidence. But that does mean that you are, excuse me, that does mean that you are getting a pretty sizable and a meaningful amount of your shots from this guy that's not going to shoot 30%. And that's tough for me. So, yeah, he didn't, he didn't make my list. That's tough. I can't be mad at it. Because all the numbers I said, if I switched to postseason in those numbers, they would be a lot

different to me, man. You'd be a big minus offensively. Okay. Yeah, it quickly exists. Shout out to him. It sucks that he didn't get to be in the playoffs. At all. Yeah.

He played well. Yeah, he played well this season. He's like a very solid complimentary fourth or fifth starter. That's why I put him over Giddy who like has like, Giddy's passing is like a better high end skill than anything quickly does. But quickly reliably hits threes, dribbles the ball, keeps the ball moving, does like combo guard stuff like solid offensive player that spaces the floor and doesn't necessarily like make you worse in anyway. Okay.

So like I'd rather have this stability of quickly than the like. They would beat the Cavs the Fuse there. It would be the casu there Arguably. I guess. Yeah. You could tell me that. Tell me a lot of things. Okay.

Who's next, man? All right. Let's go to Mo's first or last five perspective. Okay. So at 30, I have John Morant. 29, Marcus Smart. 28, Dejante Murray, 27, Kobe White, and 28,

I got Emmanuel quickly. John Morant number 30. Okay. So you think he will be the worst starting point guard in the NBA. NBA this year. Well, he was the worst starting point guard last year. I don't know about this year.

TBD will see, but man, how he's falling is so sad, right? This year he shot like, what, 42% from the field, missed a ton of games. He was shot throughout, like, basically the entire season for real. Nobody wanted him to the point of where they had to dump him for not Keegan Murray, but Chris Murray, right? That's tough. And someone else. And Jeremy Grant as well.

incredibly tough that's what the league thinks of you and mainly like i didn't have to put them at 30 30 really doesn't matter on this list for all these are just all our flyers and right now i'm just penciling in a bookmarking in my mind that this is what the league thinks of you right now bro what are you prepared to do about your metrics all across the board whether it be your your paint scoring you're no your efficiency in the restricted area it's all down tremendously like literally five to 10 percent five to seven percent across the fucking board which is atrocious bro so i don't know what to expect when it comes to Jha in this new, I guess, fresh start

in Portland. But other than like hope that, yo, this young guy who, what, scored 27 points per game in his third or fourth year out of nowhere? One MIP is just like not gone out of nowhere. He did not make my list. Respectably. Fair. Wow.

I just look at John it's like, I don't think he's a starter, man. I don't think he is. You're talking about him winning in MIP. That was four years ago. Yeah. We're going into year eight of job of John Moran. It's year eight. We're going into year eight and we've been doing this this back and forth in terms of injury, off the court stuff, decline in athleticism. I truly think him coming out

and even though that like the game after he said it, he dumped him coming out a couple years ago and be like, yeah, I'm done dunking. Brother, that's what you do. You're Mr. Dunkman. And so I I think that the... Like stuff coming out saying, I'm done taking half four threes. Yeah. You're pulling up from 35 feet. It's wild. Each, basically since 22, 23, the peak of that version of the Grizzlies where they actually

won a playoff series and, um, wait, did they? No, this is the year prior. But like, that, that was the height of it. His points per game has gone down every single year. And we've seen him get worse and worse and worse. And the amount of... attention and on-ball uses that he needs to be productive is not in line with the production that he can provide off of that. I don't, I think that having job right now is, it's not a

fantastic situation. And there's a reason why the Blazers are the ones who, who picked him up because they're also in an incredibly, you know, limbo fluctuating part of their franchise. Yeah. I, I gave him a little bit of bail. He's on my list. He's like in the next year, obviously, he's not coming much higher. I give him a little bit of bail for the fact that these numbers are referencing are quite a small sample size. He didn't play a whole lot this year. He was injured. He was in a bad situation that he clearly was not like culturally wanted to be a part of.

The on-court fit wasn't great. We know the year before that when they did the offense with no pick and rolls that kind of just fractured the relationship that led to Taylor Jenkins being fired and that assistant coach leaving. Actually, they ended up hiring assistant coach. But like they started a system that doesn't prioritize Jean Morant. And while they did run more pick and rolls this past season, they obviously weren't running the most amount of pick and rolls that he would want. And I think when you have a fracture like that, and even though you try to meet them in the middle,

it's going to be a weird environment to be in, in terms of the coach getting the most of us to view off the court and on the court. I don't think that what he showed from us this year is 100% indicative of who he is. I don't think we should expect him to shoot 41% from the field next year. Why? Yeah. I mean, I'd agree. I'd agree.

For everything I just said that. Like, he'll be in a slightly better situation that a team traded for him. They want him. The Grizzly didn't want John Morant this past year. They had no desire to facilitate John Moran playing well in terms of prioritizing him and running actions that make him more comfortable over the rest of the team. I imagine that's not going to be the case in Portland.

Otherwise, they wouldn't have traded for him. So they're going to try to make him comfortable and run things to make that trade get value. And I think he's capable of doing a little bit more. If we get him in better screening situations with a big light clinging that can hopefully have that connection you had with Stephen Adams once upon a time that could out of the lanes for him,

he still has some finishing ability. You're not the high flyer he once was, which is why I don't think we'll ever average 27 points per game with the crazy rim finishes. And we highlight the dunks when we talk about his vertical. It wasn't even that. It was the fact that he could stop on a dime and rise for those crazy high floaters he would do

from the short mid-range ability that was predicated on his vertical, but not in a just-dunk capacity. That type of stuff isn't going to be there. And without that difficult shot-making from the short mid-range, I don't think he'll be a top-tier scorer. I do think he can still be an effective driver and playmaker and be a guy that makes an offense better.

He can keep a job. Even last year, his impact metrics. He made the offense better when he was on the court, not as a score at all, because his playmaking does still have value. And, you know, I have Jaylen Suggs of 26. Jalen Suggs is a, you know, defensive player that, like we said, provides no impact offensively.

Think of the reverse. I think he can be an impact offensive player with his playmaking and pain touches that provides nothing defensively and still be a, like, role player quality point guard. Maybe hopefully a high-end role player. I don't think all start. back in the cards. But I do think he can be a playable player that makes his team better in some

regard. Yeah. It's just so like crazy how just five months ago, everyone's like, where are we taking Jal? Where are we taking Jal? Who wants him? Who wants them? And even the Sacramento Kings, obviously because they had their plans and what they're going to do in the NBA draft passed up on him. And the only teams that make sense for him will be clunky, wonky fits, teams that are in flux. And it is literally teams like the Portland Trailblazers. And right now, if we look at the other Western Conference teams, even if you're not, he isn't like on the team for the next four months or whatever which i don't know that i look think about it and do the exercise in my head like where else could he go if they really want it to

flip him the list is mad short yeah if it's not the portland trade blathers or if you want to trick yourself into i don't know the dallas mavericks or something like that he's out of the league yeah that's how spooly the conversations are right now definitely is and he's still a good playmaker and at the very least i think he'll be able to draw the ball and be a good playmaker and facilitate things for others if he hits a point this next year where it's clear like he's again, going to be a 51% true shooting score. I imagine they lean more into the playmaking, and he's just going to be like pure point guard, right?

I think that's going to be possible, and that's still going to be a way to provide some value. Once again, that's like a manual quickly, Jalen sucks type value, which is crazy to say for John Morantz, but I don't think he's like unstartable. Unless I say that now. If he does this once again, and he once again is incapable of put the ball in the basket,

then next year I will not be ranking him top 30. But I think off of a 30 game sample size, I don't think we've got to write him off as being unstartable. Yeah. Okay. I will write him off, but it's not because of it's, but not because of a 30 game sample size. I think it's more like a two, two and a half year sample size. The year before that, he was clearly startable. The year before that he was a top 30 point guard. Like that's not a debate. No, no, no, he was. I'm saying as the deterioration that we've seen, it's not just, you know, the last three months back. Yeah, the trajectory you don't feel good about. Yeah. Okay, that makes sense. So I'm penciling in that I do believe next year he will be probably higher and I fully expect some form of bounce back here. Maybe again. Maybe again.

Again, like the 27 point per game years are like surely gone. But I think you can give you like a cool like 17, 19 points a game and also 7 8 assists and add immense value to any team's offense. Yeah. So I'm pinning it and I believe in him. That's not this year. Yeah. I believe him to exist and be able to play as a starting point guard.

I don't believe in him to make a bounce back and like change the trailbudges lives. I'm not buying the star jaw is around the corner. He just needs the right situation or whatever. No, but I do think he can be on a team. Okay. I agree. Shout to Jean-Den-Murie Murray too. He played like, what, 14, 15 games last year.

I don't know why you ranked him. Look, the games that he played, hey, if you sat down and had a conversation with Joe Dumas, he believes they could win with him, right? Those 15 games that he played gave literally changed the entire trajectory of the Pelicans' entire organization, and he's the reason why they don't want to sit down and rebuild and break everything down. They went like five and nine without him. They saw him hold certain guys, like, accountable when it comes to defensive stuff and also sending guys into order offensively.

He was better. They were a lot better of a team when he was on the court. Fucked the Atlanta Hawks pick a little bit. But he showed some off the Achilles and he's a good NBA player, which is like, wow, look at DeJante Murray. Still got a little bit in him. All right. It's a good story.

Good for DeJante Murray. Made a dumb Mo's list. I did not rank him. All right. Can you see my five, please? Let me all give a damn about DeJonet Murray. He's still a good NBA player. Good for him.

At 30, I've conced him. Colin Gillespie, 29 Peyton Pritchard, 28, C.J. McCollum, 27, Keante George, and 26, Josh Giddy. Okay. I'm glad I was not the only one hating on C.J. McCollum. I am a little bit higher, but just barely. I felt like I thought you were all going to be higher on him because he beat the Knicks twice and all that shit. No, I mean, the problem is, like, wow, I am. Yeah. He can, he can do that. Yeah. And that, especially, like, given the way that the rest of the Knicks playoff run played out, those two games obviously are standout. Look at the the next three games.

100%. He's getting clamped. Like, it's not happening. I think that that is kind of indicative of where C.J. McCullough is in his career where as a score, he definitely has nights where he can, he can take over and he can eat his shot making and his ability to get to his spots and rise up and do all those things is very good. He did play point guard for the Hawks and was somebody who could handle the ball for them

that didn't really have a natural ball handler, especially after Tray left. But he just has limits and ceilings to his guys. game at this point, especially at his age. And I think that if you are in dire need of a playmaker, C.J. McCollum can be that guy, but he's not a top 20 point guard. Even now, like, even though the fact that he's played point guard for the Hawks this last year, and it's still, it's still out of position for him, you know. And so he's here because that was his job and he did that.

But I don't look at him as a point guard in that sense. So he's fine. Yeah. Shout to him, though. I bring him slightly high. just because I think in a different role he could be a little useful if you could not be your primary playmaker but if it was a list of how much I'd want you to be my team's starting point guard with no other ball handers like that he's not top 30 yeah I don't want him like that I guess I do want him more than

giddy just because I do think the weaknesses of giddy I don't want to deal with and mccullum can be a like just net neutral so that's why he's like right above flawed players like sogs giddy etc but yeah that's not a world I want to live in a sooner tank shout to gillespie Shout out to Pritchard. I'm surprised. Is that Keonté, George? That's Keontay. Wow.

You're Shayla. I'm sure you're going to have the highest before. Why is he at 27, man? I love him. He's the worst defender in the NBA. Yeah, he really is better. Wow. Ahead of Gidea.

Listen, during the season, I will try my absolute best to put on for somebody that I think is making an elite because I do think that going out and getting buckets at a high rate, if you can do that at a elite level, level. That is the hardest skill in the NBA is to be like a legitimate score like that and put the team on your back night in and night out. Do that consistently. If I see you making this jump from like, you know, just a regular pair to somebody who actually has that ability, that's cool. Now, does that ability come at the expense of you doing anything else positive on the floor? If it does, then I can't really reward it to that level. And that's where I think Keante George is at where, um, the Jazz have this roster and they look like a team that is ready to compete. And I am a little bit skeptical about if we get into a playing situation or a playoff series is County George, you watch him, you know that if the Jazz get into a playoff

series, they're playing whoever offense on him. And that's that's the hard part is that you go into something like that and you have the clear weakness on the team. In Darko, defensive plus minus, you know, once again, reference to the impact metrics and measure how much you make your. your team better offensively and defensively. What percentile do you think Keonti George is on defense? I'm going to say seventh.

And again, not measuring just his skills as how much it's impacting his team's defense. Seventh. Seventh percentile. And for people that don't know, the lower number, the worse. That means you're better than seven percent of the league. It's bad, man. What do you think it is? I'm going to say, I don't know, four.

Zero with percentile. He has the worst in the league minus 1.9. Zero with percentile. Yeah. Offensively 90th percentile, which makes sense. He's bucket getter. needs that. Like offensively, he was impressive.

I totally understand it. I'm a little bit higher because of that. And just because I'm just like assuming that in a better situation, he can do a little bit of respectable defense. But I'm not even, I can't project average defense. Like when you're coming from the bottom of the barrel, you can't assume average just because, like, there's just like thing that NBA fans do where we just assume anybody can be average that they want it bad enough.

Sometimes you're just not good at those things. Yeah. And I understand it. And what does it make those metrics even better too is that, you know, he'll, he was a part of the Utah Jazz last year and they're just doing a whole lot of unsurious things. And so I think for Keonté and the pathway for him to be a good NBA player, so sometimes you can even think of like a great NBA player, which I think he's on the verge of becoming

soon if he fixes a couple of things in his game that we're talking about right now loudly. I think that it's hard. And when it comes to him being like 23, 24 point per game score, I don't know if he'll naturally be that. I view him more of like a 17. 16 point per game guy that's hyper efficient. I can get to the line like he did at like seven or eight times a game, which was one of the bigger leaps that he did make.

That's good. And I don't know if people, my only thing is, bro, like above Giddy for him. He's a worst defender than Giddy. He's a worse past than Giddy. He's a worst rebounder than Giddy. He doesn't help the possession battle.

He's not a great playmaker. He turns ball over too much. He doesn't defend in any way, doesn't grab rebounds like Giddy does, doesn't push and transition like Giddy does. Only thing he does better is score. which he scores a lot better than Giddy does and that matters a lot.

Like he's a fantastic slasher like you said. I put him above Giddy, so I agree with you, but I can understand it when he does literally nothing else around the scoring better than Giddy. And to your point about where you rank,

you know, Giddy, and again, I think we all are very aligned and where we see Josh Giddy and our thoughts on him. But for what you said, it does get to a point. We can make all the jokes we want

and, you know, laugh at Josh Giddy, but he does have a level of production that is better that deserves to be respected on a certain level and so yeah I think one spot

above Keante George is fine Youth is currently carrying Keonta George and our ability to not be too mad at him for being bad at all these things that is outlined when you're young you're developing it's okay the assumption is you'll get better at those things

we're not gauging who we'd rather have on our team right now we're gauging how good you are right now and how good he is right now isn't that different from insert any other only score that you don't like I won't say Cam Thomas That's always got a point to you

Because that's a home of the can of worms Of personality and shit like that That you don't want to do with But in terms of like having the opposite Of a well-rounded game He's not that different From that archetype guy right now Yeah, I don't know

I don't know I view them decently different But we'll keep pushing What, maybe something's good at Besides put the ball in the baskets Name something he's good at I mean he's a good He's gonna make a decision

He's good at scoring Kind of half court Yeah he's good at scoring In the half court He's good at making a lot of easy Simple reads He's not like he's not Isaiah Call it.

He's like, he's not the best passion on his team, of course. And I don't think think you should be the best pastor on a team

if you're trying to win basketball games on a consistent level. So I'll, that's a problem. He should be the second best pastor. That's the thing. It's not a problem necessarily.

It's just like the archetype of his game. Some of the guys like Donovan Mitchell, you don't want him to be the best pastor on your team. It'll be great if he was the second one and that's what he should grow into.

And I think that's what we're going to probably starts to see later later in the future. I think in the spread, pick and roll era, anybody can make the easy passes. Yeah. So I don't reward guys too much

for being able to make the easy passes in a kick to the corner type of environment. Cam Thomas can't do that. He's dancing. He was not Cam Thomas. I know he's not actually. I said he's explicitly not Cam Thomas. I said I'm not compared to him.

So the fact that he can do that and he's not like a complete black hole on offense or whatever. I'm like, yeah. So I have him at 27. If you have him in the top 15, you're doing a lot. Top 15?

I'm just saying the way you're defending him right now He's just mad at the giddy thing Yeah If giddy was 30 I don't think you care that much That's fine So he's a good player So there is a combination of projection With this list right

Like a little bit No ideally there's none Ideally is who they are right now The only like type of projection that I would have Is if our guys who are coming back from injury Or guys who like had a super wonky year Yeah Which is maybe like two or three of these guys

The only projection we can do Is if there's clear situation things that were like variants that we know that like that doesn't that that materially impacts what they were able to do on the court for things that weren't their fault so we can like have that mental exercise of what they'd be like in whatever situation they're going to but in terms of like getting better at skill sets you're not good at now not projecting that way gotcha because that i personally would have had like pritchard much higher than 20 if we're projecting shocker yeah shocker you didn't really much out surprise surprise jaylon brunson leave one way to

yeah we're gonna do that 29 is on the low end but he was he was back he started a lot of time this year, but he was, you know, the team's second best guard. Like, I can understand. As soon as Tatum came back, he came off the bench in the playoffs. That's his real role. Like, he's a bench guy. It's fine. I put him in 29.

Yeah. Yeah. I'm interested if you have above, though, because I have Pritchard higher. I have George higher. I'm a column higher. Where are these names going to be from yours? Let's roll. All right.

Let's go. Next up. 21, or 25 through 21. Donovan, what you got? At 25, I have Fred Van Vliet. 24. I have Emmanuel quickly. 23, Ryan Rollins.

21, Ty, and 23. and 21, Trey Young. 21, Trey Young, holy shit. Ty Jerome and Trey Young. You love you some Tide Jerome, man. Me too. Tadron's better than Trey Young. He's cool.

All right, relax. I didn't do that on my list. I think there's a high, high chance that Tadron's better than Trey Young next year. Do you remember what Tideon looked like in his last playoff series? Do you remember what Trey Young looked like? I know.

I'm not talking about Trey. I'm just talking about Tiderom. This is different levels. No, but you're talking about Tideon. I know, I know, but you're talking about Tidrome in the context of he's, better than Trey Young. He is.

Listen, I don't, I don't know that. I don't know that. What do you mean? You literally just typed it right now. I'm saying, I agree with his point of like at the end of the season. It might not, it might not be so clear cut. And it's a one spot difference. Very fluid.

I did a big difference. Okay. It's fluid. I did a big difference. I ranked Trey Young higher, but I don't feel good about it in terms of the Tra young idea. I'm giving him credit, but I won't be shocked. He's one of the better.

This is one of those things where I do. think that you have to you have to listen to to the league a little bit and it's it's like listening to it to the league and also listening to the conversations that we've had for the last two and a half years about trey young and it's kind of the same thing obviously he's better than than john morin but when you talk about asking trying to be the guy on your team that's just that's just not going to happen think about where where you guys were where the hawks were preseason and all of the You had the Hawks as a three-seat because you saw, oh my goodness, you have Tray Young. He's coming off, right?

Obviously a weird year, but you have length around him. You have guys who can defend. You have guys who can attack mismatches and all this stuff. It's a very versatile offensive team. This is the exact situation that you want Tray Young in. He's gone at the deadline. And he's off this team in the quote-unquote perfect scenario. I think that right now the only team that wanted Tray Young was a Washington Wizard.

who were tanking. And now, you know, shout to him. He gets his money, but I think it's very clear that the league sees him as somebody who is not super impactful. I think that's something that we've been saying for years. And when you are not going to, when you're not going to be impactful,

even as a defensive playmaker, forget just playing defense, but like getting, getting mass deals, getting drawn charges, doing stuff like that. I don't see where it's going to be, where the ultimate value for Tray Young is going to be.

21 is a little low, I think, just because I don't know this is projection or this is just like knowing the reality where he's going. He's a meeting a good spot next year. And I think Tray Young as the top five, six, seven point guard like he used to be, is dead as hell

because he's not a good score anymore. Like straight up, he's not a good score. He's going to put volume up because he's a high-use pitch player in the balls in his hands. So there will be 20 plus points per game, but he's not an effective, efficient score that you want averaging that much.

He should be a guy, similar to what we've said about John Morant, Le Mello, et cetera, these type of flawed point guards, they should play next to other scores better than them so they can be more traditional point guards instead of that heliocentric era we were in the late 2010s or early 2020s

where these guys had to take 25 shots a game. We've been saying we want all of them to take less and focus on playmaking. Lamello got to do it last year with Conconiniple and Brennan Miller was the best version of himself. I think Trey Young is still capable of that. So I do think he can be 10 to 15 range,

which is quite the drop-off. And now listen, go ahead. What's league average for a three-point shooting is what, it's 36%? 36 and a half, something like that. Trae Young's done that three years out of his eight years in his career.

He's not like, and of course, like his shot diet is different. It's different. And that's the whole conversation. Yeah, yeah, it's different than just like a regular catch and shoot guy. But the fact that you are, a lot of times when we think about Trayong, we think about somebody who can space the floor

or stretch the floor with his shooting and with his range and get into, you know, all these different like nicks and crannies of the floor of the defense, that's not necessarily the case. He's not a great three-point shooter. And so when that's not happening, when he's not a good defender, when he's not scoring at the rim, whenever he's at his best, he does have the ball a lot in his hands, which I think, I think for the Wizards is going to be a bump because they had really nobody running point

for them. But their team now, they have a lot of guys. They have a lot of guys that have grown, that are expecting to take leaps offensively. And so I am curious to see if Trayung is even able to be the best version of himself in this somewhat reduced role. I think he has the understanding that there's so much that's changed when it comes to his our player archetyping for himself. And he's faced injuries at like the absolute worst time when it comes to the whole Atlanta stuff. It's just like a whole like so much nuance in that conversation that I don't even want to get into. But what's most important right now is the fact that we have a little bit of hope left.

for him to be productive. And there was a very small sample side that we received before. Again, he was forcibly probably, I assume forcibly shut down by the Wizards to secure that number one overall pick is that there's a small sample size and where he played, I don't know, maybe like seven, eight games or something like that. Five games to them. Five games. And in those five games, you can tell he played like maybe 20 to 24 minutes a game,

whatever. And he was not out there forcing his shot at all more. So he was setting up all the other guys. and there's no other position in the league for him to do that better than in Washington right now. All these young guys specifically. And in those games that he played, it was so clear that he was not trying to force it nor score in ways that he was asked to do so in Atlanta. Why? Because we literally needed him to do.

As soon as we got to off a trade, our next top best creator was Seidum McCollumbra. That's disgusting work. Yeah. You know. He'll be good next year. I think he will be good. He will be an all-star caliber player. I think he'll still be a flawed all-star that I don't really want to build around.

And we have those conversations we have with all these guys who deserve respect, but we know that they couldn't play for our teams. We would trade them because we want to find stars that are conducive winning championships. His defense is always going to be hard to deal with, and the fact that he's tiny. Everything I said about Lamello going to that role perfectly, Lamello is 6'7 and grabs boards and pushes and is able to provide value in the possession battle there. That'll never be the case for Trey Young. He is tiny.

So you're not winning a championship of Trey Young. I think that's true. there's not 21 more impactful players though isn't a regular season sense and even in the playoff sense like I don't know who you have a 20 like I imagine the group that he's looped around his playmaking alone is going to make him I think at least a tier higher

I think his floor is like 16 if you want to be pessimistic I no I think the floor is much as much lower than that even in the playoffs he's never he's never been a great a great playoff playoff playoff but he's never been in this role he should be now it's different but it's the same it's the same situation that job where

we are holding on to something that we saw four years ago. No, come on. About about the absolute best version of Trayon. That's, that's ages ago. But that's not what we're saying. No, no, no, no. We're not saying that, though. We're not, Jahl has to get back to that because he has to play that way to be good.

Trey Young can do something entirely different that we've never seen by the chance to do, which is be a sidekick. He's never, you said four years ago, he's never, never, he's never once been a spot where he can play with a DeBonza and Anthony Davis. He's had, he, even, even last, last year, Jaylonon Johnson was taking leaps coming into to last year. You had, you had opportunities.

Nikita Alexander Walker had a breakout year last year. Yeah. His breakout year was this year, but he didn't get an opportunity to play and he didn't start the season at all. What I'm saying is, 10 games to them this year.

I'm not, but what we can't do is act like the Hawks are just this like terrible situation when all of us thought that the Hawks could be a good team and that Tray Young was in a solid situation to play to play reasonable basketball. And the moment,

even whether you look at it from the season as a whole, or the stretch where he missed in the game in the middle of the season and the Hawks go on the win streak and they're like, oh my goodness, look how it is when, you know, when quote unquote the dictator is not here.

I think you saw with that team an opportunity for Trey to fit into into a team construction and it didn't really happen. The point is not, did he have a good environment? That environment was good. It was still Trey Young

take the most shots on the team good. He will not be in a take the most shots in the team good. So it's not even a quote. The Wizards could be a bad situation and the Hawks are good situation. just in a macro sense. But if one situation is Trey Young, you need to be our leading score,

and one is Trey Young, you absolutely cannot be our leading score. Put me on the side where Treyong cannot be our leading score, and that's going to be better for him. Even with the hopes that he is not the leading the leading score, there is still somewhat of a possibility of that happening because as good as we think DeBonza is, he's still a rookie. He's Sean George, right? He's making leaps. Sorry, he's making leaps.

But we'll see what they look like offensively. So at the end of the day, he might end up being the leading score. I just think that it... Well, sure. Anything happens. The situation that we are asking for him, just in from a macro sense in terms of like archetypes of players who are very ball dominant. And now we're saying, oh, yeah, you're going to switch situations and scale down completely

when you have all, when you don't provide value. And we've never seen him provide value in all the other ways that normally whenever people scale down, then they start to provide value. He's never done that. So that's why I think when I'm looking at it. at him, it is very hard for me to think of Tray Young as one of the 15 best point guards because the things that you will need to succeed in this different role, you have never displayed of those specific traits to be part of your game or you being willing to do that.

So it's hard. True, he hasn't shown the off ball stuff. I think it's a little different when you are one of the best playmakers in the world. That's a trait that the ball's still going to be in his hands. He's still going to be dribbling it. It's just going to be with the line of... But like never? He's never done it.

It's different, though. We're not saying he needs to be curry running around off ball. We're saying he needs to have the ball in his hands and set people up, which he has done. Yeah, and defer a lot of shots rather than taking all the tough ones that you think you have a 40% chance of making. And I think in Atlanta, that was never going to happen. Why? Because the type of clear that Jalen Johnson is, he is not a close. He doesn't have the levels in his game at all.

And of course, like when you're a situation like that where the hierarchy is literally already set in like a locker room context, that was never going to happen. That is everything. That's Tray City right there, you know. it was never going to be what it will be in Washington. There's a huge mental shift and change of approach when you're playing with other star scores versus when you know you're the star score. There's plenty of shots that the ball is still going to be is hands alike. It's not as simple as like don't have the ball.

It's just don't force up these tough shots. If you're getting a double team on you instead of trying to run around the double team and take this tough shot because there's six seconds left and you know the team's looking at you. They're staring at you to be the franchise player to make this shot. You pass it to the Bonsoe. You pass it to Anthony Davis. Like it's a mind shift change of how you're approaching it when you.

you know you're not the guy. Yeah. Let's, let's see because if you're, again, if you're dialing all this stuff back and you are being this very, you know,

team forward guy, I want to see him because we're going into year nine. We're asking him to play a completely different way that he's ever played in, basically a decade into his career. It's very hard for people to do that. Definitely, definitely.

And that's the biggest thing to me is that it's hard mentally to accept that. If he's not accepting of it, then you can be definitely right. I think he has the abilities to, but whether or not he's open to it mentally is 100% of question. Yeah, I agree.

Also, once again, shout to Emmanuel quickly. Shout to Ryan Rawlins. They played really well this year. You know what I'm saying? They did really good. Good players. We're 52 minutes in and haven't gotten to the top 20. Yeah, what the fuck.

The point of our position is in flux. Let's fly. Let's go to Mo. All right. My next group. At 25, I got Ty's Room. 24, Payne Pritcher. 23, Ryan Rawlins.

22, I got the same guys as 21 as well. D. White and Suggs. I think those two are pretty much, they feel like the exact same players. Obviously, like, they had the absolute piss poor defense or offensive performance didn't shoot the ball at all. Derek White pretty much extended through the entire regular season too. But what they do defensively, specifically Sugs.

What he does defensively is fucking special. Sugs over White is disgusting. How so? Thank you. White's better at everything. Besides pushing your transition. He's better at everything. Everything besides pushing in transition.

He was getting absolutely blown to smithereens by Tyrese maxi every single possession. What do you mean it was better than everything? It's Tyrese Maxi. Suggs wouldn't have gone boned to smithereens like that. What do you mean? Okay. I'm not going to index on one place. In that specific matchup, too.

I guess matches matchups is different, but I think defensively I look at them as pretty much the exact same. Bro, Suggs wishes he could be dead with him. He really does. White's a way better team. Okay, Suggs is a great defender. So let me not try to go. Let me not get in a situation when I'm talking down on Suggs's defense. That's not my point at all.

I'm not here to say Suggs isn't. Suggs is probably a better fight over screens point of attack defender or just as good. White is a brilliant team defender. That's why he makes his all defense teams. Obviously great rent protection. That's what makes Derek White so special that he's a more valuable defender, but that's close. I'm not here to say that Suggs isn't in the same caliber defender. Offensibly, come on.

Come on. Did you see Derek White in the offseat in the, bro, in the playoffs? And he's still way better than J. If you want to go ban for ban with bricks. We're both broke. What are you talking about? You've escaped the poverty line. You've turned to dust.

you've completely, you're so famished that you no longer exist. Brother, we're throwing rocks at each other. Like sediment versus like granite, bro. What are we doing? At least Derek White can make plays. He's a playmaker. Suggs that doesn't really have any type of passing skill.

Yeah. And I will say this. You're right in the playoffs. They were both again. They were two idiots boxing each other. Derek Wahey's earned more goodwill for me that I give some, I expect him to bounce back offensively more than Sugs. He definitely.

I think like the, when the season ended and people are having conversations about trading Derek White, I felt like that was very, very, I thought that that was very, very reactionary, where Derek White has shown us for years at this point that he is, he is a good shooter. And so I think that he will, I think that he will bounce back. I think that he's a better, he's more consistent off of just simply games played. Derek White plays all the time. That's very fair.

He's that his last four years, 82, 73, 76, 77. He's going, and his minutes have gone up. every single year. He is extremely durable. You know that the defense is still first team all defense. His shot is, I think that his shot is going to come back. Yeah,

I think that's, how did it suck shoot 29% from the field for seven games? From the field. 29. Now my, dude, Jared White shot 32% from the field. No, they both suck. But like, how do you gain to the 20s?

It is bad. I've never seen that from a starting point guard. Brother, Derek White shot sub 40% for the entirety of the regular season. Okay. You're talking about seven games. I'm talking about 77 games. There's a massive difference. And I feel like right now, Derek White is a very important part of his career,

pivotal point of his career to where I think if I'm someone like Brantz and Brad Stevens, you can do one of two things. Sit down and you can believe in him and believe also like, you're just simply overtaxed. And once Tatum comes back, you're going to get a lot easier shots. And that's for all of us to assume. Or back door for two first round people from some dumb ass team that's in the, in that that's in the mud right now and needs some like regular point guard play that's very much in the play what if derrick whites is just like the hawks expired can you back to or sock to two first

umpics probably not nope uh who's give you two first i think one maybe one or two i don't know bring them here two i want to have a conversation bring me that moron today simply because derrick watson be a champion and also like he's freshly he's fresh off that shit sucks has so much more to prove when he comes to like to set it cementing himself in the league right now So that's why like the values will be a little bit different in the name proposition too. In the playoffs consistently. Exactly. He worked consistently.

This is one, this is one bad year from Derek White in terms of like his Celtics career shooting this poorly. I understand. You're, you're concerned. There is reason to be worried. It's one bad year. And he's 31,

32 years old. It's one good year as a score. I'm just going off this past year. That's it, man. Okay. Well, this fashion wasn't great for him either as a score. It's not like he lit it up.

He's better than him. I'm predicting. the fall off of Derek, Derek White. There you go. I don't know. Just say you're hating on. Just call it. He's not.

He's there right next to you. Again, it's flexible. That's ethical hate it. You can hate him. That's fine. But just call your shot and say you're predicting the fallout. I think, yeah, I do think that next year he's not going to be as good. I don't know if he's going to shoot over 42% from the field.

That would not surprise me at all. Yeah. He's approaching. Is he 30 now? He's 30. He's going to be 32 by the end of next year. Yeah. So call your shot.

If you're saying he's cooked now, that that's cool to me. That's fair. been better than him in any time of the last five years. He's never been better. He turned 32 last week. Oh, he's 32 now. Okay. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. So if you think this is the time, the father time this year? Cool. But Sugg does never once been better than him so far. Also, how dare you speak on that when he won the sportsmanship award last year, too? This guy doesn't respect leadership at all. He gives good depth.

Shout out to him. I really appreciate that. Let's see my 25 to 21. Integral part of the community. C. C. Jim McCollin 25. John Morant 24. Keonte George 23.

Drew Holiday 22. Payton Pritcher 21. you guys have Ryan Rollins and Tid Jerome entirely too low, I think. Ryan Rollins is really, is really... He's clearly top 20. He's good. Ryan Rollins can be top 15 if you wanted to.

I think Ryan Rollins, if you tell me right now who I'd rather have next year, James Hardin or Ryan Rollins, I'm going to think about it. I put James Hardin higher because he's earned it, but like, that's that whole, you know,

the secondary player that's really good at everything doesn't give up a whole lot versus the star that gives you the star quality traits but the downsides, whatever. Ryan Rollins to me has earned his way into those combos in the top 20.

No, he definitely has. Like, he plays, he played as, much as as all the top guard like in terms of of just minutes played when you go on a like and you filter out on through point guards on cleaning the glass it's like fifth in minutes he's like fourth in net rating he the the the the bucks they're like their their their offenses is great when he when he's on the floor the defense is great I think he's he's fantastic I just think some of the other guys yeah are just slightly more proven and so and so that's that's why he's

that's 23 for me yeah yeah but he can't he can't move up where did you where did you have him? He's the next year. Oh, next year. Beginning and the end of the next year. So I think he's like 19 or something. Okay. Or maybe he's 20. I don't remember. He's not that much higher. So I mean, I'd act like I have him 12. But I want to put him, I want to put him higher. I just, for me, I just want to wait for two seconds and see him play like real serious basketball or see it at least for another year. That argument to me doesn't matter as much. When you say real serious basketball, I think that only matters if somebody is like

playing on serious basketball on an unsurious team and you're like, that won't translate to a good team. I mean, there. No, when I say serious basketball, it was, but, but, That's not my point, but that's not the point, though. The point is he's doing serious things in that unsurious team. That's fair. So there's no reason to think his skill set won't transfer just because the team was stupid. And the team wasn't even that stupid. They just had bad players.

Like, it's not like there were some dumpster fire of like, what are they doing out there? This isn't, this isn't, they're not like the 2024 pistons, losing 27 in a row where you say none of this matters. Like, they were just a bad team. I can't believe they did that. Absolutely. They had veterans. I think for me personally, when I put you in that next year, that means that I think

you are more playoff viable. And for someone like Ryan Rawlins. I believe he will, but it's just that I haven't seen it just yet. I want to put him there. And I honestly regret and I put him there. But I don't feel too bad because it's his first year. And this is like completely seen out of nowhere. You know, this is his first year being a really good basketball player.

I want to see him build on it. Okay. He's good at everything. Like I can't even like, he's a good role. He's a, he's a well-running guy. Yeah. He's not like some mind-blown playmaker or anything. So it's kind of like more of a combo guard, really.

But the fact that he's such a good defender too and such a good defensive playmaker. I'm like, all these guys I'm comparing him to, he's so much more defensive value. Like, Keontay George, better score. Actually, higher volume score, a little more efficient too. I think he's more later than he's game. Ryan Rollins is better than Keanu George. I like in terms of providing value on both sides of the court,

being able to play on off ball. Ryan Rolls, I think, is a better basketball player today than Counte George. And it wouldn't be hard for me to decide who would rather I have my team if I'm playing a playoff series today. Yeah. Now, Keontes young, growing. Maybe you tell me he gets better. That's totally believable.

Today, I'm not hesitating if. pick Ryan Rollins. Okay. Makes sense. I got Drew Holiday 22. Pritcher 21, who I do think, kind of similar to Ryan Rollins just provides a lot of value, doesn't turn the ball over, like at all from a playmaker. I mean, he does sometimes.

But you know what I mean? Like relatively low turnover percentage relative to the usage he has, doesn't have a lot of scoring turnovers, which is very important in winning the possession battle, something that the Celtics care a lot about as a high analytics team. High three point value there. Good on ball, defensive playmaker. It fits on any team provides value. Okay, yeah, I like it

That's very fair to me Yeah, Jod 24 Just like I guess I really want to see them Trade Drew Holiday Because I feel like he has one more running When it comes to Being like a serious game change

You're on a team that's on the line He needs to be a Raptor He's still on the Blazers right He is mmhmm Oh my God You should I guess him is scoo Are their backup back court right now

To Damon I Yeah The problem is they shouldn't have dame on their team Really That's a real problem It's like it should be Jha and Drew

Yeah or Dame and Drew. Assuming you want to pick Jock because you want to have to long term to save him, it should be those two or John Scoot, I guess.

I'm not going to lie, I thought Damon was going to be on some like, Eudonish Asim shit. He probably should be, but I mean, he's probably a little bit, he's too good to be

Eudonis Haslam. You gotta give him a chance. He probably should be the six man, but he's probably going to be a little, at least in the beginning, presumed too good for that. Yeah, yeah.

But it's weird. He is too good for that. It would almost be better for him if he's not. like because he I don't think there's a world where he's like all-MBA level again so he might be too good for that because he's going to be able to give you 20 or whatever but it might be in their better interest if he was a little wash and could be their six-man but just for the team I don't know about him yeah well yeah for him he should get as many bucks as

you can your careers aren't too long like do what you can it'd be great if you could be an all-star yeah but for the clarity of the blazers it's just so weird yeah Jordan Clarkson just resigned within nix for one year yes hey I see to be calling he's there Next year. Mo, 20 through 16. 20 through 16, 20, Drew Holiday, 19, C.J. McCollum, 18, A.J. Mitchell, 17, Harper, and 16. I have Keontte George. So this is next tier here here, outside of, like, C.J. McCollum and Drew Holiday, similar guys who are, like, not similar in the play style, but obviously similar in where they line them being in terms of, like, you have great superpowers and you can be on an important team.

And you can be, like, the fourth best player, fifth best player on that roster. or on the starting lineup to do certain things. What's CJ McConnell's great superpower? He's a ball handler and he's, he's like a top 10 handle league. Superpower? He has a top 10 handle league. He's a top 10 handle. Yes, 100%.

His handle is good. He got a duffy, man. I'm not going to lie. Yeah, his bag. He has his counters are ridiculous. Top 10 counters, whatever it is like. The problem is he not fast so he doesn't do a whole lot with him. But I see your point.

It's in like certain bursts. It's certain moments. So you can't really. Like if he was on the Miami heat right now, amen. I move you? That does some. I don't know if I call it a superpower but I see what you mean. Yeah.

It's like a quirk. It's his best goal so it has to be his superpower. I think he does. Yeah. Superpower was laying out a little thick, but I see what you mean. A little thick. Yeah. All right.

AJ Harper. Under Kiate George. This next tier of guys, they're really like, it's really all the same tree to me. And these are guys who are on the cusp of like making serious. serious leaps of being like one of the best point guards in the league like period top 10 in the right i just need to see it more and i think last year was a great step for harper mitchell a james was specifically he's been good for quite some time apparently two years ago if you ask mark dagonal but this year seeing how he is like a legit ball ball handler who can attack on not necessarily

all three levels the best level but he's a good three-point shooter which is okay to see he's direly and his ability to attack the paint relentlessly with all the like quick nifty moves is wildly impressive and it's so impactful for this specific OKC team. And the consistency in which he does it too is ridiculous. That's important. And I think we can look at him as like a, I don't know, point guard, shooting guard, whatever it is. When it comes to being guards, he's one of the, he will be one of the best at that last year.

This past year, he just entered the conversation. Dylan Harper is going to be one of them one soon. Dylan Harper is a hard one because we're talking about what they are right now. And that typically means what they just did in this season. He made the finals and showed more in the finals he did in the regular season. He got better. He got better. So I don't know if you call it projection or what, but like.

I think if he got the same amount of opportunity as AJ Mitchell or even Kante, George, he would do the exact same thing, probably even better. So that's why I have him there. It's just weird because like the spurs are just on a completely different timeline. Outside of Agent Mitchell, obviously. They're in a different timeline. And he's, he's been prioritized so differently. But if he was given the opportunity,

or if he was like, let's say, Brooklyn Net or something like that, he probably is like at the top of this year. Or we maybe. Once about higher. Yeah. So what's about higher? Yeah, okay. I understand.

I kind of have the guys, I think, leaped for, linked together for similar reasons. I guess to add on to Keonti George, their offense is just so much better with him on the floor. And when it comes to his, it is. It is.

But it's a testament to who else on the team for sure. I mean, even with Lyre Marketing, Lyer Marketing, Lyer Marketing has a much easier time getting his buckets off and being more, He's more efficient when Keante is on the fore because there's a level of unpredictability. There has to be something said for a guy, like literally commanding that much attention from a defense who bears his way into it.

He can get his bag off from all three levels again. He's a good three-point shooter. He used that wasn't a conversation for him for real. And that's him that we wanted to see him get better right. He got better at it. Okay. So there's his credit. No, he's definitely, he's like efficient efficient at all three levels.

He's like star efficient at all three levels. So it's certainly a like, great baseline skill set to have. That's not even like some like cute thing that he can become a star in this way. He's a star score for sure. It's, you know, like we said earlier, how everything else built around that. But the star superpower, to use your favorite phrase,

is already there for sure. Like he's probably, there's no difference in his scoring versus Tyrus Maxey's scoring on ball. In fact, I mean, Cantor just better at some things on ball. But it's the rest of the game around that, obviously, that Tyrus Maxi is a lot better at the small stuff that requires you to lead in offense.

But in terms of putting the ball in the basket at all three levels, he's just as good of a score as a maxi. Yeah, it's the other end. Also, Maxi's like ridiculous when he comes to his off ball three points. It doesn't get a different crazy shooter. Way better player. Way better player for a lot of reasons. But on ball, balls in my hands, I can put a bucket in from these locations, 10 spots.

Count of Georgia just as good. Yeah. Next year you think AJ's going to start for O.K.C.? Probably not. Damn, that's kind of crazy. Yeah. I think you should. They're stacked.

But that's, there's almost like too many chefs in the kitchen. If he starts alongside Jada and obviously should. he's going to be there too. I think I would like to see him start AJ Mitchell because Shay's been talking about I want to play off ball more. I think that could be cool. There's this whole thing where,

Casey Wallace is going to want to start soon because he needs to get paid next summer. So he kind of wants to feel like he's earned a starting spot. It's like a looming thing. If Ludoort's still there, you don't bench Ludo. He's never been benched before. So they've got a weird thing going on right now.

Okay, who's up next? Donovan. At 20, I have James Hardin. At 19, I have Drew Holiday. At 18, I have Derek White. 17 I have D.R. And 16, I have Derek Irving. 16 Kyrie.

Okay, I can understand that. Wow. I don't see, did you, Harper's not here yet, right? Harper's not here. No, man, he's not here. It's going on here. Valid, if you put, it just, okay.

Okay, I like this. Reveal mine. I think I have them both here, or is it next year? Yep, I have it here. I have AJ Mitchell 20, Ryan Ron's 19, Ty Jerome 18, De Aaron Fox 17, and Harper 16. I had one rule in this list that no matter what made sense,

logically I was not putting Dylan Harper behind Deeran Fox because I watch the playoffs and I have eyes. That's real. I just, I just can't do it. Parker's projection. In the regular season, Fox was clearly better. Harper was a rookie. Harper is a very rare circumstance where it's not projection.

It's not ignoring the whole season. It's knowing the realities of a rookie season in that who you are in your first 10 games is not who you are when you're in the NBA finals. What is it? 96 games later plus over 100 games later. That's a lot of development time. and who he was in the finals was a great player that when those skill sets are just allowed

to play starter minutes next year, that's clearly going to be a high quality player. So is projection in the part that we haven't seen that be showing over a whole sample size yet? But I think it's safe projection to assume he's clearly at this moment capable of that. That if a season started today, we know he'd be capable of being the 16th best point guard.

Exactly. And that's why you have anything to say, don't care. I don't care. You want me to project for your favorite guard? Tell him make the finals. And maybe I will. I want to. I would.

Tell him to be a dog, man. Tell him play 20 extra games for me to have a sample of to see how good he is. The only thing about Harper, though, is that while, like, yes, he was a different player, but he is a different player in terms of a lot of his strengths just got so much better. And some of the weaknesses are just,

they're just still there. And they're still, like, very blatant. And no one cares because the strength, they're all so, like, they're highlight worthy when it comes to all his tough layups and how he has, like, incredible touch and how he's just, like, on defensively, a fucking quarterback for our safety

when it comes to finding out, or like literally knowing where a pass is going to be. That's very, very factual and very strong. But also, I'm not going to act like, like, for sure. For Dearen Fox, he is a more complete player. It's a more complete player. And throughout the last specifically, when it comes to Harper, right when he was ticking up,

Darren Fox was ticking down because his ankles, both of them were absolutely fucked fried. Now, his ankles don't know how, don't have nothing to do with his brain. I understand that. Those two things are not connected at all. They kind of are, though. To be fair, they kind of are.

When you can't move the same, your rhythm gets fucked up. up and you start making bad decisions, to be fair to him, it is connected more than people say. Yeah, yeah, obviously. I agree. But he had more confidence, though.

He said, I'm an outrun OG. You know what I'm saying? So in his mind, he's like, hey, this ankle is taped up, it's ready to go. I'm going to make this decision. And so I think, listen, for Dillon Harper, can anybody, if anybody in the world can stop him from scoring the layup

two times in a row, I got $10 for it. That's it. It's just his ability to get downhill to score at the rim and we saw it in throughout the playoffs and we saw it in the finals, it's, it's already one of the better skills in the league. And so when you're talking about superpowers, he has a superpower for real. That is something that you can hang your hat on that even, even as all the other things, if the playmaking, the shooting, the mid-runs, all of that, even if that takes a while to

fully get up to like all-star, NBA level. you still have something that you can hang your hat on that can get you to be as productive as one of those all-stars. So he is better in my opinion. And I'm not ignoring the fact that he doesn't shoot the ball from three at all in a reliable way right now. And I've never seen him make like a high-level pass in a high-pressure environment.

Two massive things in the game right now. Definitely. I'm not ignoring that. Part of that is because he is the backup guard that comes in as a spark-flug score play next to Castle and Fox who are the lead playmakers. He doesn't get a lot of high pick and roll dice up the defense opportunities. so he hasn't like you know grew those muscles out. I think within 15 gains of him being tasked with doing that,

he would look more like a regular point guard. Okay, that's fair projection. Yeah, and that's like, I don't think he doesn't get better at those things. I think he has just be asked to do him. And I think that if he did do those things, he'd be a top 10 point guard already. So I'm accounting for that. So guess what?

I'm just waiting to see that. I agree with you. But that's why he's 16. Because once I see that, I'm putting him at fucking nine. Because once I see that, he's insane. You putting him at nine. That's very fair. I understand.

For me, I just need to see those things happening. And even like there's been so many times too where, you know, he's had mental lapses in the playoffs. But it just doesn't necessarily get, you know, thrown in your face like that at all. We haven't at the same spot. The difference is really Deeran Fox is that you put Deer & Fox higher. And I said by hell or high water, I would not put Deeran Fox over Dylan Harper. Yeah. That's fair.

That's fair. But I'm, again, like, what did. Fox did in the finals is incredibly tough. So I understand. But I'm just trying to look at regular 90 games or 100 games that they did play. And Fox was consistently better. throughout those hundred games. And which is fair, obviously.

For the sample size of regular season, clearly the veteran all-star was better than the rookie at the start of his career. For sure. Not a debate. Yeah, Ty Jerome is extremely good. And as a full-time starter for a year,

he's going to be a top 15 point guard next year, I'm pretty sure. He played 15 games this year. No doubt with injuries, and they started tanking weird year. Only played 22 minutes per game. 42% from three on 6.7 attempts. 6.7 attempts in 22 minutes.

Previous year, he was at 43%, actually basically 44%. from three when he was like the best six man in the league for the cavaliers and was like clearly capable of being a starter only 22 minutes per game so i'm gonna tell you it's per 75 numbers okay this guy is not normal where to go on a per 75 uh basis 32 points per game last year granted a small sample size right 32.3 points per 75 62% true shooting only three turnovers per 75 which is 91st percentile and 22 assisted points. Again, it was only a 15-game sample size.

So this would surely get more closer to normal if you played in 82 games. That's insane. That's crazy. Like that's star-level production. And let's say because of sample size, he's his high-level role-player production instead of clear superstar production. This is two years in a row now that if we look at what he's done and the opportunity he's given, it's been insane, clearly outproducing guys who have way more cachet

to their name just because he's tied Jerome. and we know next year he's going to be the starting point guard getting 36 minutes per game, it's so clear what he's going to do. And for two years in a row, we've seen that. Okay. And I think if you're saying that, I agree with you. I think he is one of those guys who, again, will never be talked about as like, oh, he's going to be MIP or whatever or whatever.

If I also have a vote right now, it's him and Modis Buzzoz. I'd probably favor of Modis Buzzoz a little bit, but it's those two directly in my mind who have that ability to just like come onto the scene and put up absurd numbers. For me right now, the only thing that's holding me back from that is, of course, like, you know, he doesn't have the cash that has someone like Tray Young did. And I need to see him on a consistent level. And I need to see, like, those hardcore moments. And if I did, I'll be projecting like you are right now, but sadly I just don't have those moments yet to put him in there. I'm not projecting, though.

Like, I'm just saying, 15 games sucks. He got hurt. So I'm projecting that he would continue that level for the whole season. That's projecting. I don't want to hold against him they got hurt because he did it last year too on the Cavaliers. Again, per 36 minutes is like a hard thing to look at and take his Bible because most guys that aren't playing 36 minutes. If they did, they'd be worse because they defensive attention. I don't think that applies to him because he's played high minutes in the 20s.

It's just he's played behind in 2025 star guards and then in 2026 got hurt. In that 2025 season, 22 and 6 per 36 and last year, 31 and 9 per 36. Like that's obviously ridiculous. He's not going to do 31 and 9 per 36 even if he's healthy. But there's two years in a row that there's clearly a guy who's developed into being a high, high, high level. starter and it's not projecting his skills get better at all. It's just play more minutes next year. Yeah, I think when it comes to the cavaliers and how they've been so wonky and what made them so special just a couple years ago, specifically when, you know, that Donald's the

business had that one year where he, I think he averaged like 23 points a game or something like that, very low considering how much he had the ball in his hands. Tide Jerome was like the direct number one impact guy outside of like Dary's Garland and they had other good things too. But Ty Jerome and having a high level playmaker to help make all of these things to go right when Darrys and sits on the bench was the direct beneficiary on that, bro. He's the single most underrated player

in the NBA right now. And I don't think there's, maybe Ryan Rollins is close. But he got some buzz amongst like NBA Twitter people and like nerdy people. Nobody talks about Ty Jerome because he was on a tank and grizzlies team and all the 15 games.

He's the most underrated player in the league that like, yeah, I'll bet on him be most improved player. That's a good bet. Okay. I think next year we're going to see like 23 and a half points per game like 8.8 assists. Dang. 23.

That's a full-time starter. I think he'll get to 19. 19 points per game? Yeah. Only because like, he said that this year. Yeah, but Cicard coward,

year two, Sedge a coward and then Boosers and eat up so many minutes. Senator Coward's going to be a demon this year. He's all right. He's going to be. He's all right. Boosers,

yes. Maybe he's like 21 because boosers. And then he's going to eat up some points too. I think. Coward's all right. I don't care about him as like, at least like me their main score. I will see.

We'll see. You'll be surprised. Carver's all right. He's big and young, so, like, I get it. But, like, he's 19. Year 2, coward? No, no, we'll see.

What are you expecting? What are you expecting such a coward? 21, 22 a game. That's outlandish. Not really. He's a 22-year-old rookie. I know. And now the world is his.

22. What's over under there? What's all run to bet on? 22 and a half to you? No, I'm not dead-ass about 22.4. Yeah, I'm like, that's crazy to me. I do think he's going to average, like, 20?

No, not. Maybe like 19 to 17. 17, like, feels pretty fair for me. But also I forget they do have Jeremy Grant there too, which is like, he's whatever,

he's not out of himself all the way down of 14. There's one thing about Jeremy Grant. A 10 point drop in his height. So to your point, with all these people, then I guess I'll say Ty Jerome,

21 and 8, coward, 16, boozer 16, because he's a rookie. He's going to take him a lot to get like, maybe going.

I'll say that. Because booze, I don't, The Boozer's not going to be a better score than Tidromeda Day 1. I don't know. He's a rookie. He is a rookie, but he's not your normal rookie, though. Of course not, of course not.

He's not. He's not a ass rookie. Girt and grind, do you talk about it. I think you roll into the league and average, like, 19 a game. I can fully see that for Boozer, for sure. I think he could, yeah, but any team with less options. Yeah. All are really high on this Grizzly team.

I'm super. They're just not going to give him, like, 40% usage is what I'm saying. Like, he's a rookie. They're going to, like, use him a little bit. Yeah. We start out of 20 points a game. Yeah, yeah. Can't wait for this 31, 51 season.

And it's going to rock. Watch, every team has like 3, 17, four-for-game scores. It's not even a high bar. That's a regular sell. I think the Bulls probably had that last year. Bro, Nicola Alexander Walker

had scored 20 a game last year, but. Yeah, I think Tydrums a better score than that. I think so. I'm crying. Okay. All right. On the top 15. 15 I have James Harden.

Yeah. 14, Derek White. 13, Tray Young, 12, Karii Irving, and 11, Jamal Murray. Okay. This is all, like, the tier that, like, I got to respect them, but I don't feel great about them at all.

Also, yo, every single one of these guys, Ultimate Salutes. They're like, in the past life, you were a top 10 guy. Yeah, you got pushed out for the guys that are really good. And we got this middle ground tier where, like,

I love Ty Jerome and Ryan Rollins. I might rather have them than James Hardin next year. Yeah. But I got to respect what James Hardin has done. The playoffs have been disgusting. No, you don't. The regular season happens, and it's an important thing to have an insane floor raiser like him in the regular season.

Like his regular season value is crazy. I just know for a fact he's going to shit himself in the playoffs. And I got to hope he's not a team that it's okay because the other players are able to be the main scorers. Not like DeMitch and Mowgli also shit themselves. So I understand the Hardin thing. You're not going to hear me defending him. Say whatever the fuck you want. I don't care.

At a certain point, I do with the respect that he is James Hardin. And like, who would we just talk about at 16 that I had? Yeah, like Dylan Harper. not going to say Dylan Harper is better than James Harden right now. All right. Just listen to yourself. Next year he probably could see him being that. But like right now.

Yeah. Yeah. I think because I do think like we, we like all of the, a lot of these, these conversations, like people have have certain skills. And ultimately it boils down to like, can this guy play on my team? And so like with Josh Giddy, obviously Josh Giddy has certain flaws in the world. Like, oh yeah, he can't be, be my point. point guard and he can't be on my team. That's the same thing with James Hardin. And so I think

it's if you want to say that you think that Tyrone is is better because you think that Tyrone can help you, you know, achieve your ultimate goal more so than James Harding can because James Harding can't have certain flaws that I think that's reasonable. I don't think James Hardin is he can't play on my team level. I know we say that and like I know when we talk about Starzland. Like if I wasn't on it, he can't get not one of my dollars. I know how you generally feel. You generally feel he should be in the catacombs. I understand your feelings about James Hardin. but I think part of that is just like, you know, slander culture or the, these stars.

Like, we have to have these opinions. Is this slander culture or is it just reading out the box score of what happens every year? Sure, sure. And no one said you're wrong. No one said you're wrong. When you sit back and think like, okay, these guards below him, have they also gone outside the playoff series?

Yes. Like, these things aren't exclusive to James Hardin. I think it's easy to point to him and say, like, I can't deal with this again because he does it so often. A lot of guards get locked up in the playoffs and have these moments too. We just don't care as much because there's not 17 years. If Tyrone sucked in the playoffs for two decades, I would say he can't play for me.

You know what I'm saying? Whatever, I'm not okay. You're going to bait me to defending James Harding because you want him fucking thrown into a prison complex. 29. Yeah, you're going to get me going. But whatever, I don't give me shit about Jim Hardin.

He can't play. He got ISO for like eight minutes straight. See, exactly. He can't defend Jaylon Bluncel one-on-one. Oh, no. Kenneakinson, you're a moron. Why did you let him do that? Like, it's not, we harp on him

and put everything on his shoulders and don't give him any benefit for the day. doubt, which I'm not mad at, but... Because every team in the league looks at him and it's like, yo, give him $40 million. For what? For what? Like, the moment you give him $40 million, you're out of the title race. It's not there.

Whatever. I think Derek White and Tray Young bounce back. So I'm giving them one more year of race, assuming they could be themselves at 13 and 14. I'm very aware that that 13 through 15 range could look dumb as fuck. If this was projection, I wouldn't be doing this for sure. Actually, no, I would be because I'm giving them one more year of credit. I'm very open to that.

looking nonsense. And those three really Trey Young very open to him falling a lot. Kyrie, I'm just assuming he's going to be Kyrie. He took a four year off. It's just an ACL. I'm just assuming he's going to be all right and I'll put him there. But again, could be cooked physically. No way of knowing.

It's just not an Achilles that I'm going to say we should be certain you'll be slowed down forever. And he's so skilled that like I think he could live with a small step back adverse. So he always comes back well from injuries. Yeah. So I give him credit credit. But I don't really feel good about this here at all besides Jamal Murray 11. Yeah, this tier is very tough.

And I realize something. I have my dog, I'm like, wait, what? I'm like, hold on. I'm looking at my list right here. Oh, fuck, I left out Hardin. What the fuck? Again, I would have Hardin on this, and this is the same exact year because these guys have like a lot of their

legacies on the line, except for I guess, Jamal Murray, because he's weird in his own right or whatever. But yeah, that's fair. I fully expect Harry Irving to come back. And he's an elite athlete in his own right, not necessarily like a vertical guy, but in many different ways when it comes to flexibility.

So I do expect them to be like coming to the next season, averaging like 19, 20 game or whatever it is for the Dallas Mavericks and just be regular top 10 point guard. Oh, I'm done with the rest of the world trying to convince me to like Jamal Murray. Really?

Like, I mean, not act like I hate Jamal Murray, but I'm done with people trying to tell me I need to give him more credit. Obviously last year we did this conversation, I was low on him. I think I put him like 16 or something. I actually don't remember at all where I put him, I'm just guessing.

Yeah. I remember I had him on the lower end And I was like, yeah, I can't help but feel like he's a Yokish merchant that kind of abandons him to playoff sometimes when tough defenses really show his lack of ability to create for himself. I said that. He comes out and he has an amazing regular season. It makes a lot of shots of extremely high difficulty. It makes an all-star team for the first time. And we give him all the praise in the world for having a Curry-S shooting season.

I abandoned my things. I said multiple times, you proved me wrong, Jamal. You're not a Yokich merchant. You did it without him when you got hurt. You were fantastic. Playoffs came. He looked exactly the same as he's always looked, got locked the fuck the fucking. up by Jada McDaniels, put into

a closet by Jada McDaniels, did nothing to help Nicole Yokish was struggling himself, looked every bit as Yokic merchant as he ever has been, every bit as enabled to create his own shot because his burst has never been the same post-ACL. I once again feel how I felt last summer of Lernery, despite the great regular season.

Yeah, he can't be trustee either. Yeah, really can't be. So yeah, I get that, I understand. So in the regular season, he was like a top seven point guard. I put him down to 11 because I'm like, I'm back to where was before. The only reason he's not lower is because the guys we talked about below, I can't have faith in these motherfuckers either.

So 11's kind of his floor. Yeah. It's so funny. Literally, I can see all, like, assuming the worst for Kyrie, all four of these guys,

literally being like top 20-ish in like 23, 24. But the hard part is the guys below two aren't like, they're not solidified yet. Dylan Harper, I guess, can become top 10 if he has an all-star, your two type of leap.

I don't know. But there's not a lot of guys. Like, I'm talking about Tid Jerome who I love. Tid Tid Tudoram is not going to be better than Jamal Murray. Like, like an all NBA team next year.

So there's not a lot of looming names to kick these guys off, which is why I kept them in top 15. But this is not a tier that I'd be thrilled to have in my team. Yeah, that's fair. No, no, you know why? Yes, exactly. These are tiers I don't want because the money of these guys still get paid their top 10. So if we're bringing in finances, I either want a top 10 point guard or a 16 and below because they get paid a lot less.

This range is where you make $40 million and you cannot be trusted. Wow. I agree with that. Yeah. All right. All right. All right. Next year for me.

And again, Hardin's missing from here if he fully belongs here. So at 15, I have Trey Young, 14. I have Deer and Fox. 13, the mellow ball. 12, Lillard, and 11, I have Garland. You think Lewis can be 12? Yeah. I pray for your optimism in life.

For sure. I pray I wake up and I feel as bright as you do when you think about Damon Lillard. I pray I have this type of faith in something. You have to watch this. Dames. You did it too? You haven't been watching his Instagram stories, right? I'm telling you.

I pray to have the optimism of you guys. I want you guys be right. Let it be known. I hope to be wrong. I don't care at all about this hill. I just don't know how I can have that optimism for a 35 red off in Achilles. It's going to be okay. I hope it is.

Look at this grand story right now, man. Hooping right now as we speak. See? Every morning that time. That didn't even look that shifting. I mean, he's pricing his base in this form and all that. I know, but you're showing it to me like I'm supposed to be impressed. It's just walk through.

Everybody can walk through. I don't know what that's supposed to do to me. Not everybody can walk through. Okay. Look at this. Can you do? Easy. Okay.

Now I was saying. Sick. I'm typing on a story. You'll see. It was people. It was a white. It was a white trainer. It was a white trainer.

Don't do that. It was a five-nine white trainer. Let me go by them. But again, I do. I really, really, really hope that you guys are right

by Damien Lloyd. Yeah. Can I see my thought? Please. Yes. So would you have a hardened at 16 right below Trey? Yeah.

I think out 16. I probably have him, honestly, I don't feel good about hardened and hardened right now fully with his age. so yeah yeah he probably like slightly above tray

at 15 I have dame 14 I have a j. Mitchell 13 I have Dylan Harper 12 I have Jamal Murray 11 I have Darius Garland Wow okay Would you guys put in the top 10 that I didn't because I have Garland top 10

So what's the difference there I'm trying to figure it out for me we'll find out so la mellow ball is yeah who do you Who do you put top 10 that we didn't say yet I will get to it Must be out lineish to us Maybe

Oh it's fucking Derek White No No it's not I had I had Derek White at 18 Oh okay okay okay I didn't remember you being the Derek White We had we had a couple players that we were going back before I thought maybe something got lost But yeah and you know we talked about Harper and Mitchell

I did the same with you where I do think that they have to be right next to each other But I think both of them are insanely good at at this goes and they're both downhill demons both super impactful and the moment we get like i think that they are that good right now but the moment that we get any type of shooting leap from from either one of them or or like ancillary skill leap we're we're talking top 10 for both of them i think they're both amazing and i we have that same thing for a j mitchell should is that should we have that same faith in a j mitchell i think so i think so i think i think i i think that he can you you always like you keep saying brentz I don't, that's a little bit different, but I do think like in terms of can he be the next

guard to to have a very, very productive year? I think he, I think he can. And whether or not we see that in the next like year or even two, depending on how long he's, he's with OKC, I do think that his skills will will grow and they have time to to develop. So by the time he does get his own team, I think we will see like a full blossoming AJ Mitchell. Okay. Yeah. And I wanted to put Garland top 10, especially because as soon as he got to the Clippers, he was killing and he was dominating. But the first half, he played like 19 games for the Clippers. First 10 games, he was going crazy.

The second 10 games, it was still good. Like, he wasn't bad or anything, but it was more just like regular calm, Garland. So I'm still just, I want to respect him. Don't really know what we're going to get. But he is one of like those guys that I really like. For sure. And he has the injury stuff. We kind of know that team's going to be a little bullshit next year.

So I bet his PR won't be. be thriving because they're probably going to be a weird team that doesn't really put them in the best situation so not crazy to ding him a couple spots yeah yeah all right let's look at the top ten donovan at ten i have lamello nine i have stepan castle oh that's what it is castle's a shooting guard eight no we talked about castle uh i i i had castle yeah i thought castle was uh i i had castle yeah yeah i thought castle was to get it was point three part i don't know i don't think anyone yeah i've i've thought of castle but if castle was to see this he'd be like He gave you the biggest debt, right?

Yeah, I thought of cash. No, we also said. He's a shooting guard. Oh, see, I missed that. So. Yeah. But yeah, so Lamello at 10, Stefan at 9, Devin Booker at 8,

Halliburton at 7 and Maxie at 6. Okay. Last year, whenever we did this, I had Halliburton, and this was immediately after the injury. I had Halliburton top 5. This is as far as I want to drop him. He would be top 5 if he wasn't,

if he wasn't hurt, but obviously toward the Achilles, that's why he's at 7. Fair. Okay. Yeah, besides the fact that we decided to put Castle on our shooting guard list, he's obviously a combo guards. We can't be on either. So it's not crazy to compare him to these guys.

I can't be mad at this too much. Booker is the one that we've always put on the shooting guard list, but it's been like three years now of him being the team's point guard. So at some point we've got to say, okay, I guess you're a point guard now. Which sucks. I don't think he's particularly great at being a point guard. Unfortunately, because he's one of the best shooting guards alive. They're forcing him to beat a lead playmaker and not be able to utilize his offball game. And that's annoying as fuck because he is so good offball.

And so obviously talented players, so he's still good at this. but relatively middling as like a high-picking role playmaker. Very annoying because if he was a shooting guard, he would be in the top four of his list and not eight like you put him. Yeah, they put so many extra miles on his body that they just didn't need to if they had an actual point guard. And the fact that they had, like, it was such a dumb team construction of having him, KD, and Beal.

And like, yeah, you're going to run point and completely nullify it. Like the idea of that is, oh, yeah, we have three guys who can just go score at any time. And then to immediately say, yes, but we are going to hinder that because now Devin Booker is going to play point guard. We're going to put him out of position completely just nukes the entire idea of U-Killam basketball at its peak. And so it was dumb from the start. And it sucks that he's still in this position. You know, he's like he suffered the most when it comes to this new era of like big point guards and guys being more positionless and all that. And also he suffers from just having a dumb ass for an office to the most.

All these guys. that's really what it is. But also I feel like people in the front office are influenced heavily by seeing, ooh, guys like Katie Cunningham, big similar size. Ooh, guys like Shea, big summer size. Ooh, lamella ball, Tyrese and Maxi. All these guys are big. Ooh.

Look at you. Why can't you play point guard for me? Yeah, they said, we have James Hardin at home. They're rubbing their hands. Feene and rubbing their hands. And he's also the biggest, biggest victim of Chris Paul just getting old as fuck. Yeah. Because if he could have stable Chris Paul for three more years,

Devin Booker would have an entirely different career. He's been racking up way better NBA teams. Like numbers would be better. Maybe they could be able to contend. Like it sucks. Yeah. Yeah. If Chris Paul could have been as good as he was in 2021 for three more years,

I think him, KD and Booker could have maybe like actually won. Oh, 100. Yeah. If everything was on their side, health and all that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They could have contended for sure.

Because they still had Chris Paul when they trade for Katie. He just got old and they got rid of that contract because he was overpaid at that age. He was still 2021 Chris Paul. I don't know if they win because who knows, right? But they're as good as those champions. Why aren't they as good as the 22 warriors or 23 nuggets? So it sucks for Booker, but yet, honor point guard list is probably about where he belongs. Yeah.

Who's up next? Darius Garland number 10, lamella ball number nine, Devin Booker number eight, Tyrese number seven, and Tyrese Hallibird number six. Yeah. Okay. So are you completely not worried about the Achilles? I guess not. Yeah?

I don't know. I don't even know. Because like we're dropping them like one to do spots. I understand. I don't know if we're both like confident, but I have no idea what to think. I'm clearly being optimistic. I treat it like it was nothing clearly. It's probably not smart.

I mean, I probably should care about an Achilles tear in any context. Like Achilles tear is matter. He's just such a weird player because he's not like a score like that. And he's not a like physically dominate you score. But he does need his burst to get to his, you know, weird off the triple threes. But he does so much with the passing and the tempo and transition that isn't like on-ball burst reliant. That like I don't really, I can't imagine. imagine what he looks like in any post-injury situation.

So I kind of just took the easy way out. Like, yeah, he's still Halliburton. Yeah, he just had, spoiler, I did the same exact thing. I put Halliburton at number six. So simply because he had a generational runner, and that's something I'll never, ever be able to forget. And he looked, things will be different next year, probably. But I don't know if what happened.

No, my bad. Saw Kyrie top 10. Oh, yeah. Over La Mello. Yeah, Kyrie. I think he's going to be hyper-efficient. And I think, yo, next. year the Mavs, I don't necessarily love all the moves that they made, but simply because the

elevation of Cooper Flag, potentially being a top 20 player next season, and also Kyrie Irving being obviously an elite level boy handler and just a normal guy that they deeply need, along with Mores Johnson. I think they're going to have a great defense. I think they're going to be really good. And Kyrie Irving will be like one of the main outside of Cooper Flagg is the catalyst for that and the main difference maker. So, yeah, going back to my list, That's why I have Kyrie there. At number 10, Kyrie. Nine, Devin Booker.

Eight, I have Jamal Murray. Simply because I'm paying respect to this outlier season. This singular season was special. It was some shit that only seen Curry do before. And you did it yourself. Nice job. Seven, Maxine, six, Halliburton. Do you think he has nightmares of Jademad, Daniels?

Or does he try to never think about him? Does his brain block him out in a very, like, psychological way that, like, you know, when people have trauma, they get trauma gaps in their memory so they can't remember childhood. Is that him where he just can't remember what J.D. McDaniels looks like? Or does he see him every night when he wakes up? I think so I think he sees Jada McDaniels, but he, I think he sees like a figure in a basketball jersey, but he doesn't see the face and he doesn't see the name of the team on the jersey. He doesn't see the number. So he knows that like there is something basketball related. He's just the man. Yeah, it's just the man. It's just something. Slender man.

Yeah. He sees in his dream and so like if this were a movie, he'd have to go, he'd have to do with Wemby, did he have to go to the monks. Gotcha. And start, you know, trying to look within, try to see if you can figure out what this dream means

because it's been haunting him for so long. You need a one wish will, him, man. Yeah. That's going to be 55 years old telling the craziest ghost stories, campfire stories about Jane McDaniels, right? I think he's not true. I think he's more likely to be like,

you can't say that name around me. And like, we'll never speak at this man. Just kill the vibes. Yeah. The grandkids know like, don't say that. Slow around his household. All right. So yeah, Booker 8, Kyrie 9, Maxi.

We all agree Maxie and Halliburton right there side by side. I think if Halliburton is Halliburton, he's a lot more valuable. But we don't know if Halliburton will be Halliburton, so I'm not mad moving him one spot below. I think if Halliburton is Halliburton, he's, him and Kate is still a discussion to me. Interesting. If he's Halliburton. That's very interesting. Okay.

I'm not making a discussion now because it isn't. an Achilles tear. So I'm going to just give it to K because that's the easy answer. But I do think he can be easily still in that combo. Potential discourse. Yeah, potential discourse, assuming for miraculous recovery. I love this. Theoretical discourse. Programming the show a year away.

Illusion. Exactly. We're foreshadowing this. We're in a fucking bag. All right, top five. Should be pretty cookie cutter. Go ahead and show all of our list together. Steph Curry, Kate Cunningham, Jalen Brunson, Luca Donschich, Shea Gildes Alexander Me and Mo are the same

Donovan is high He is off Perkinson. I have Steph at 5 Ked at 4 Luca at 3 Shea at 2 And then the best player In the world

Jaylen Brunton at 1 So then what was it this morning What was your favorite drug of choice Permetazine First of all I'm sober I made this list last night I said Are you a wine drunk

He was in the crib I sent this list in last night Red or white Huh Word of white I mean at night it's more red Yeah Okay.

You know what I'm? Like, man. Brunson. I am. Now, I am curious, though, what the, because for the last 18 months, we've been saying that Shays better than, than Luca. And all of a sudden, that's just flipped for y'all. No, it is not flipped.

I read that completely wrong. That's on me. That's on me. I read that one. The red wine's still kicking in. He's right over. Still in the sister. He's not that.

I read that. You got Brinson in the sister. Yeah. Brunton hasn't left him inside of him. Oh, man. That's insane. Isn't it insane? You got him a one.

Brunton, it went like, is there any, like, reason or rationale right now? No. What do you mean? I'm going to ask that question. There clearly is.

There actually is reason. And there is rationale. I want to hear you out. There might be reason. There's no rationale. Okay. So what's your reason? First of all,

fair. Fair. Fair. There's always reason. There's always rationale. You definitely have a thought. that it comes sparked from something. All I'm saying is.

Not going to talk about this is irrational. He has Adams and his brain that are moving. That's very valid. Multiple. Multiple, surely. The cell doesn't work. Bro, he's running away with his left hand fucking wrist bullshit. Oh my God.

But go ahead. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Do you think that surgery is just off to the side? When do you think it happened? Let's talk about that. The wrist injury. When do you think it happened?

It happened throughout the playoffs. Bro, not... Which honestly, thinking back, makes sense as to why he didn't have the normal Jalen Brunton playoff, which is, oh yeah, I'm just going to score 40 every single night. However... He didn't have to. All I'm saying is, there was a dude. Like, the Knicks were supreme, supreme underdogs, and everybody was like, yeah,

you know, the Knicks are going to make your fight. But the Spurs were massive favorites. They were big favorites. And all of a sudden, this six-foot dude with a broken left hand gets better and better as the series goes on, figuring out. out of defense that Shea did not figure out until game seven. He started to figure out more often and had 45. He had Chet in this corner.

As a score specifically, Jalen Brunson was able to figure out the Spurge defense as the series went along. That was not something that Shea was able to do. And Shay who also, Shea and Brunson, who also operates in the mid-range and also operate as downhill scores, right? Shea was completely taken out. Meanwhile, game five on the road. It's new, but what is Jane of Brunson doing?

Dicey. Calling Wembe into the action saying, I want you. I'm going to score on you every single time with footwork, with time with pace. I got a staple. That is the finals MVP. That is the best point in the world. It's a deal to 30% off.

Lock me in. I already added the Peterbread. Do you want? Jayne Brunson has done it. And he has accomplished things that some other people have an accomplice. one upstairs did you want a chicken Caesar salad on the side too uh I'm going out for dinner later so not really I'm cool so Jalen brus is the best player in the world right he's the best point point in the world actually not yeah he's the best way ohmat is both

be so he's gonna be so glazed salmon from sweet green right sure yeah also this is a cap you all never ate us we need I should have yeah it was me I was like this is what Sam Fran's on okay what like what are you what What do you want me to say? Nothing. You asked me the question. He did ask for the rest of the know. Oh my gosh.

And that's what you fucked up. I wasn't going to ask. I want to know. Okay. Other than that, we have no debate. Curry at five, you know, doesn't play a lot of games anymore. Still Curry, but the guys above him have just earned to be given that credit. Cade was an MVP talks at a certain point.

It still has a still has a still is a flawed player that sometimes confuses me how he can be so clearly productive and impact metrics and everything across the board, despite still not being a particularly efficient score and turning it over to him. many times. But that's because his command of the game, the playmaking he brings the ability to create these tough mid-range shots. It's so powerful that he overcomes his weaknesses. And if he ever gets better at those glaring weaknesses, he can be top three pretty easily. But that lands number four just below Jaylon Brunson, who earned to be the clear cut number three to any rational person. And then Luca and Shea, who are the MVP candidates that I wanted to. I'll have the same list outside of Brunson. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Just shipped the know-up. Yeah. When you exist at a sober state of mind, the top five is kind of to be.

they all slot in like with honestly zero debate I guess brunton and cunningham is a debate this man put jemal murray top eight because he was like I'm going to respect this outlier season this man also jane and brunton also had a it's not an outlier season but also had a very very productive season and there you go so it's not the same thing

great there you go and these two are the same things it's not the same thing and we know so jama mary shot like 43% from the three point line bray on high as it temps to insane.

And you respect that? For the regular season, absolutely, yeah. That's cool. I'm glad you respect that. You don't? I respect Rooms. He has a ring, too. I better see Josh Hart number one on those shooting cars.

I'll be so funny. I respect finals MVP's. Okay. They'll be the best small four in the world. I mean, look, everybody's between there. Everybody plays the four now. He's kind of might be the best three. OG's reasonable.

We'll see. Josh Hart top five. He He's top ten We're putting Josh Hart and Stefan Castle Conversations All right Let's do it

Let's pot Stop in us I know exactly Kat's better than Winby If you're honest with yourself I said that About three weeks ago So we know you said that

That's our point guards Top 30 in the NBA Coming off of this season Week 1 in ranking season In the books At least for the first half of the show Because it is now time producer corner.

These souls, what do you got for us today? Today, we're going to build off a conversation that we were having us today. Okay. How many could you take for one million each? Damn.

What are we taking? Starting with bat hits to the ribs. Let's pause. So for background information, you actually weren't here for this mode. It was an off-camera combo. I was so confused.

It was an off-camera combo where we have a baseball bat bat over there that for some reason Donovan walked in front of me put it on my face jangled it around and said I told you I gave you a million dollars every time I hit you with this

right in the stomach how many hits would you take and I was like damn I don't know too so that's the combo Betby so bet Swinging at your stomach $1 million for every hit how many hits are you taking

And specifically I add like 70 It's not all out It's like 70% power It's a metal baseball bat I can't take more than two I said two as well I'll take the $2 million I've versed it

one but I was like if I could hit once coming hit me swing back a second time I'm already in pains no difference yeah I'll take my two million dollars after that I would have to go to like 12 for it to be life-changing money between two and 12 so I'll take my two million and back out I'll go four four I think four see my ribs are different that's like that's my whole core like so important if you were talking about like my knees 50 who cares I don't even dare that bitch yeah that's my type of guy said this yesterday that's my answer for all of these as many as I could take Pause. But you said you want to take it in the gut until you're in the hospital.

Yeah. Now paper out of pocket. What the fuck? Bro, you're going to be coughing of blood. You might die. Because you just like, give him. Have you seen boxers out of a box? We already talked about this.

And this is what I told yesterday. You never trained as a boxer in your life. That if I just today, so I swinging a bat on you, you're going to die. It's a metal bat. I can easily kill you swinging at your stomach over and over again. until you go to the hospital. But that's what I'm saying. We're not getting to a point of death,

just getting to the point of, I need to go to the hospital. You won't know the difference because you'll dive internal. It's not a video game. Your HP won't go down and you just go back. You're going to die to be an internal bleeding

and you slowly die. Hey, well, obviously we're not going to get to that point. We'll gauge it. How do you know the point? Don't worry about that. He said, you know, every day,

none of me. Who cares? It's not every day. Ain't nothing to me. Give my 50. I'm just saying, we just got to define what as many as I could take.

means whatever that is that is my life how does one define that don't worry about that it's a two-step you define it with death I know yeah you fuck around until you find out and now you're dead all right next okay hottest wings on earth one million each how many could you eat two oh I wait more because you can just like it's gonna start hurting you can eat real fast and just be like yeah you're like set to in money Like milk or like things to alleviate the The heat? Yeah, yeah.

It's like hot ones. I can do seven wings in like a minute and a half. If I just go real fast and pinch my nose and try it to feel it, it's going to hurt regardless. I think if you do it fast enough and get that a set amount in before it really starts to set in, the amount doesn't make a difference. One wing versus seven wings. Your mouth can hurt all the same, I'm pretty sure. There is a point of diminishing returns. Yeah.

I go five. It's a speed thing. I go 15. I could definitely down a lot of things. hottest wings in the world? Yeah. What does that mean? I were talking like reasonable wings

that are wings that exist or like I chemically make this thing that'll fucking make you want to die. I'm not doing. I'm not going to burst out. So like a wing that you can practically buy at a restaurant the hottest in the world. Yeah, I can probably get to 15.

Yeah, if it was the hot ones that we did like last month or whatever, I could definitely do 15. I'm off for a million dollars. It's a lot harder than that. Diled down to 10. All right. I can definitely clear that for sure.

Broken fingers. Someone's going to snap your fingers. For a million dollars. Yeah, one. That's it. One. What do you mean? Stop my finger.

Like literally. One million dollars. You can even say anything more than one. Two. I'd like do them all. Take these two, do it at the same time. No, it has to be individually. Sequentially.

Yep. Yeah. And you know, for this one, for the spirit of it, we should say they're going to make that bitch linger. Like they're going to take a minute between. Otherwise. Otherwise, you could just be like, one, two, three. Just like, do it. You're in pain regardless.

I think for this to matter. you had to like really sit in it. I never broke a bone before in my entire life. I don't know what it wants like at all. It's tough. I broke my wrist when I was little. How little? Like five or six.

I jumped off a couch. I was in Power Ranger that day. And I jumped off and I landed like that. I broke my wrist. A couch? Like a three foot drop, if that? I jumped. What do you mean?

You got more air time. Don't do you mean? Do you respect this? No, no. I don't respect it at all. First of all. Off the couch? Lus your left race?

Yeah. You drink more milk as a kid. Yeah. Thanks. I didn't have enough time. I was five. I just started out of the milk. I just got here.

I just found out about it. Yeah, I'll go two. You can break, you could break my right index. I think. Pinkies. Take both pinkies. Do we know the recovery time?

It's actually not that bad breaking fingers. They don't even do surgery and thing. You just wear a splint and it heals itself. Ten. Yeah, like, low key. Take my left hand. Bro, you dangerous me.

You do anything for money, Brad. He's got a slut. What the hell? Hey, man. You said you'd be at the brick at death if I hit a bat. Oh my God. See, that's the problem.

Y'all ain't never seen one million, no tax money right in front of you. Have you? Exactly. Imagine right now I walk up to you with a suitcase. One million dollars, no tax on it. You do a lot.

I wouldn't be like, no, I wouldn't be like, no, I wouldn't be like, I'm a die for that. I wouldn't, you can take my body for that. Like, I wouldn't be like, this is going to change my life.

Kill me. I'm, yeah. Okay, man. Break. I think you overestimate to your current spot in life having, you know, you're not exactly struggling. I think you underestimate, but you overestimate how much a million dollars is going to change your life.

You're not going to do. No, I say it's not broke. He's like you're not struggling. You said, you don't know what real money is. No, no, no. No, no. I'm going to, yeah. You think a million dollars is so crazy.

Your life's not going to change that much to where you should be destroying your body. A million is crazy, but it's not worth it. He said, you touch him on, we ain't seen him again. No more producer cards. That may have gone away fast. He's going to run through that bitch in three months. All right, next.

Mouthfuls of blue cheese. Oh. Bro, I'll be stuffed. You're disgusting. I'll be maxed out. Yeah Mouthful So I put it in my nose

In my ears What's the what's the amount like a Like a like the wind stop cup of ranch But like a blue cheese Yeah Two Man actually that For a million I can go

Well no It's not the dipping stuff Like actual blue cheese Oh like The crumbly cheese Yes The actual blue cheese Pungin cheese

Oh yeah I'm going done off that I'm losing my mind Oh good I'm an eater. Yeah. I say five. Zero.

Really? I'm not digging a mouth full of blue cheese. No. Okay, not a mouthful. No, it's a mouthful. We're going to stuff your mouth like a fucking chipmunk full of blue cheese. And then, yeah, I got, I got five. You're so lying.

If Mr. Bees was here right now had a suitcase of $1 million, you're taking that blue chase. The discomfort afterwards. you will get over that far, far easier than breaking your fingers or having somebody hit you in the summit with the back. I don't have to break my finger. Hey, you're crazy.

That's a crazy thing. I would do what. I would do one. He's 12. He's totally. He's totally. He's totally. My dude was like,

yeah, get rid of my whole left hand. Well, I was speaking for you there about your love for money and then a billion would make you rid of that. Yeah, man. If you don't want to eat it, you will not eat it by any means. It's so funny. All right. Next.

Three hour segments of being locked in an all-white room. I can't do it. I can't do that. I can't do that. I can sleep. Wait, can you sleep? Yeah.

No, what the fuck? Yeah, I'll sleep in a white room. Okay, what if we can't sleep? It's going to be harder to sleep in the thing. Twice. Twice. Is it hard to sleep in a white room? Like an insulated, noise-proof, all-white room?

You won't lose your mind very close. So basically, solitary. I was like, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was thinking like solitaire confinement like in a prison. Yeah.

But you mean those ones where it's like zero sound. Yeah. Zero sound. All white room. Okay. Not normal room. Yeah. Yeah.

Two times because I would go crazy. Yeah. Yeah, probably zero. I don't think I'd want three hours. Probably none. You'd go insane. Well, what happens? I mean, I would try it for as long as I could.

I don't give it damn. But. Real. Like if my life is on the line or whatever, then yeah, I try it once. Okay. Your life's not the line, though. Let's not go there. It's a million dollars.

Your life's on the line. Yeah, I do. It's out of the way. Yeah. I think if you get through it once, you can't go back in. I think that'd be very hard to come out. I think three hours is like right on the line of manageable. And if you have a little bit of time in between, then maybe.

If we're assuming we can't sleep, I think I would have a panic attack an hour. No, he said we can't sleep. He can't sleep. I think he's going to be harder than you think, though, to follow sleep. Yeah. Okay, sure. I'll do it once. I'll try to sleep.

You don't know Donovan, man. Donovan will sleep anyway. He could sleep in any moment right now. Don't let me fold these arms, man. It's wraps. That's fair. All right. Last one.

Punch us from Prime Mike Tyson. Man, one. What? In the face? Oh, yeah. Where? Yeah, in the face. Two.

I'm more scared of a body shot from Mike Tyson than face punches. You might have CTE afterwards. No, no. You will. So, like, my jaw will break, but like, I can do that. Well, too, you might cut your tongue at half. And I'll just be talking like this. I saw a raping

I saw a raping The Mike Tyson bar's gonna hit So like any punch But you become from Memphis I'll show raping I'll take that Lama Lama Ripper Rupa Jama

I only see once Bray Hit to the face is insane Can I kill you? I mean I know it can But do you think in this scenario Is there a good chance that Mike Tyson just kills you

Full force punch from Mike Tyson? No. I think zero. Wait, is he going like bare fist? Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, fuck. Is he punched me as hard as he can? Yeah. Full force.

Right. Never mind one. Zero. It's been a long time since I've been punched in the face before. You haven't punched in the face? Yeah.

Who punched me to face? My cousins is? Like, what do you mean? Cousins. I have never. I've seen, literally.

I've never gotten into, like, actual punchment. So what do you say that? What do you mean? we used to fight. To what? override like like legit knocked like punch punched

my cousin gave me a black eye before my older cousin yeah okay yeah we used to fight I punch a kid in second grade once because my teacher told me to you said what a punch the kid in second grade once because my teacher told me to

at a Christmas party that sounds like something you say to your parents to get away from it my teacher told me too no she actually did she told you to like defend yourself yeah she really didn't like that kid either she wanted to do it no one like the kid What would she say?

Did she say punch him or like stand up for yourself? He's like, you can beat him right now. I wouldn't care. In Hot Dead! Philippines are all different, man. I'm not going to be right. It's a different country, different rules. Oh, in the Philippines.

Okay. That's totally different. Yeah, it is totally fair. Yeah. That's so good. He said it's lawless country. Teachers be kids. Where I'm from.

Yeah, teachers. Give him a belt right there. That's fine. So where I'm going. Teachers get bazookas. They don't care. Yeah, it's hard. All right.

There you go. How old were you got punched the face where your cousin? 12, 13. 13 year old can punch. Because we, because, like, there was a, there was a time where,

like, we were fighting, like, in the summer. And then there was another time where, like, we would have, like,

boxing gloves and, like, we would fight that way as well. And so that was, we probably, I think the last time I remember, getting punched in the face with the boxing gloves probably around like 15 16 boxing those makes more sense to me yeah being 13 getting punched in the face

bare knuckles sucks 13 year olds can hit that was tough too that sucks I had extra beef with my cousin man I think if I remember correctly I was like 10 or 11 years old and I was playing grant of thought oh four and just dumb bitch fucking unplugged my god damn Xbox controller or Xbox while I was about a beaten mission and that just pissed me out of off and he's like three or four years older than me and he was just trying to troll me or whatever he's just a dumb bitch he's a bastard bro they shipped his ass to africa he's on an invoice never came back after that my dad played no games he's like yeah buddy you're out of here never came back i'm imagining they shipped him to africa because he unplugged your x-lux

and dad was like i cannot stand for this you want to play games huh let's play games I will not allow this Go to Africa Said you're on the mission for real Facts They did They sit them to the Islamic school bro Have heard of them since then

Not one WhatsApp call at all That brother's gone That was gone That was for Islamic school Fax The brother's living the dean bro With that being said That is the end of producer corner.

Let's go on to TikTok time. If you're still here, let me know what you think about Islamic Scream. Welcome to TikTok time. Today, per usual, we are going to begin with a draft. Instead of doing a two-beat two draft like we did last week, we're going to be building a team together as a unit to see if we can build a team that beats the 1996 Chicago Bulls. So you guys know how this works.

We will spin the wheel on the low side. We'll get a team in a specific year. And we hate to see if that lets a selective player for each position to build a better squad than 72 wins and a championship. Okay. That's good. Hit that first spin. Beat the Bulls.

First balls. 2025 Detroit Pistons. I think we're tracking right now. So it's not this year, not the 60 win year, but the year before that, we're still happy with that version of Cade. We could do worse, so I think I'm happy. Yeah, he's the only option. He's still an all-pro player at the point.

Yeah. He was a lot. an all-star, right? Yeah. Yeah, still an all-star for sure. And now we have a better point guard in the Bulls, so we're cooking so far. Exactly. Can we be Michael Jordan? We'll see. Spin number two. Can we be Scotty Pippen? Can be LeBron James, please. Wow. Wow. See, and this is what I'm saying, close mouths don't get fed. They don't. You have to be open with your wants in this world. Put LeBron James on our roster. Oh, we know. LeBron was our 2019. Yeah. This is the year before LeBron. You got me too excited.

Wait, whoa. Oh, we're doing, Yeah, this is 17, 18. Yes, we do the second year as the name. Oh, man, I hate when we do this. Mia manipulate games. Fuck. We have to play by the rules.

The 2018 season is. Lanzon's him. Lanzon. Yeah, we're not picking Lanzo. We could take KCP as six man. We could take Brooke Lopez as six man. KCP is six. I look he wanted to take Brooke Lopez at that point.

Zubosh was young. Caruso was on that team. Because you think about the 72 wins. The center position is just whatever. Like, they don't have a dominant center. You got to beat them with some size. Okay, Brooke Lopez, six, man. That works.

This was the start of his second wind of his career. Went on to have good years of the bucks. Wasn't cooked at all. Started to turn into Splash Mountain here. Yep. Okay. There we go. Next one.

We're so close to Bron. Man, the whiplash of this. 1997 Orlando Magic. Fuck, they'd already lost shack. So Penny is still here? 97.98 magic. Which are already washed? No.

Penny, no. 297, no. They had Kenny Smith. They had Horace Grant. The horse grants. Listen, if we're trying to beat the Bulls, somebody who knows the Bulls, horse grant could beat that guy.

This is also our Penny Hardaway. We could put Kate at the 2. That's a lot of size. Let's do it. Sure, let's put either one. Yeah. It doesn't matter one or two. They're massive.

Yeah, put Penny at the 2. That's 267 guards. That can ball handle. potentially we're stretch big if we want to start brooke lopez we're tracking still right maybe we need a legend at the forward position though we need a talk to player of all time yeah penny can give mj a little bit of trouble and so can k you can't pick on either of them yeah they can both defend just fine next spin yeah please give me lebron we need brown or k kitt 2009 this is not sacraman this is not bra this is prime tyreek evans year fuck man

it's better than the year before maybe oh my god that's super bleak yeah No, if we can't even get Tyree Kevin's, we are not, we're not winning this, by the way. So. And so we're going to start Brooke Lopez. Moving to the starting lineup, promote Brooke Lopez. Who we can win with if we get, if we get some star forwards. Okay, Kevin Martin's here.

Kevin Martin is our six man. You know what? That's not a bad. He really is a six man. Spark plug. Yeah, it's 24 that year too. Yeah, year four Kevin Martin. Hey, 24 and 09.

That's a lot. Yo, he's shot 41% from the three point line. On five attempts. That's a season. He's an ooter. Again, if we have to get a legendary forward, but we could do something. He got to line 10 times a game that year too.

We need Ron, Larry Bird, or KD. All right, here we go. Okay. Maybe Kauai. We're tracking. What are the odds? They're testing our patients here. What are the odds?

This is not good. Please read me this roster. Mike Bibi. Okay. Metterworld pieces on this team. Okay. Oh, okay. How many games you played this year?

70. Hey, available. But he average 18 a game. Okay. Solid. If we get Meta World Peace, we have to get Yonis or we lose. Okay. Meta World Peace.

We need some glue guys at some point. Meta and Lopez are a glue guys. We need a superstar power forward. Give me LeBron. Give me. We need a G. G. G.D.

or Yonis. And. Three kings. What are the fucking odds? There's a one in 30. chance every spin that we get to second middle kings we got it three times and what's a one in 30 chance multiply times three that's a tiny tiny chance we get this three time in a row bro that is awful and it just keeps on getting worse and worse too hey spencer haze man pick

whoever car laundry carl andry we had a one in 27 thousand chance for this to happen all right so we get rookie tyrie cameron the small forward and better rope He's playing powerful. We get putting the dirt, man. Fuck. It's a guard dominant. It's a guard dominant team. Cade and Penny are going to have to score 30 a night.

You think we're being the Bulls? Probably not. Are we beating the 2026 Bulls? Oh, hell yeah. No, we're not. Yes, we are. Yes, we are. We could probably get one game off the Big Bulls.

Okay, this team is actually not horrendous. Can we get two games off of the 96 Bulls? Yes. No, we can't. No chance. Yes. We can get one game. With like outlier shooting though

Yeah Two maybe Super outlier shooting We can get two games This team is awful Fuck the Kings This is better than no Supersonics

Maybe not What are they gonna do Maybe What are they gonna do When Brooke Lopez Steps out to the three point line It's not a damn thing Let him shoot probably

And they got Now we have Brooke Lopez Magnet Ball series He's gonna set the record For threes in a series Kade We do have a lot of lot of shooters. But we got three kings in a row. That's, we don't have a lot of shooters.

Tyreek Evans, Penny, and Lopez isn't crazy spacing. Metawee isn't a crazy shooter. K's definitely not. Our shooting sucks. Kevin Martin's there. Yeah, there's six men. Who weren't around. I'm shooting sucks actually. All right. Then put Kevin Martin that small forward. We'll put Tyreek on the bench. Honestly, but we're still losing. How do you want your belt? Don't you're right. It doesn't matter. It's whatever. We got one and a half to do this. Yeah, fuck it, we win because we say so. Yeah.

We're the only ones talking right now. It's not an open conversation. Can't give people off. We set the narrative. Next thing we're going to do, I'm going to show you some NBA teams, their entire starting five. You're going to guess the team you're looking at,

but you were going to guess these teams by their collective nicknames. Every single player on this team, one through five, you'll see a nickname. Try to identify the team. Okay. Testing our knowledge. Let's see.

Let's tell you your nickname knowledge. All right, here we go. First team. First off, you got the Chosen One, Ducky, the Terminator, the Winter Soldier, and Puddle. Puddle is hilarious. I never heard that nickname. Chosen one got to be LeBron, right? These are all current day teams.

Oh. LeBron is at a current day. LeBron is currently not on a team as they were recording this. Yeah, he's out the league. Tragic. He's out the league. So I have no idea who Ducky is. I have a feeling off of the Terminator and Puddle who this team is.

What do you hear when you see Terminator? I think of obviously like a cyborg, like a robot type of vibe. Human AI. Yeah. And I think that the only person that fits that would be Kauai. Yeah. And then if we're going back to the game of zones, then Yaka Pertil is Jake Puddle. Jake Puddle.

This is the Toronto Raptors. Why is Scottie Barnes of the Winter Soldier? because he plays up north I don't know why but Ducky is so fitting for R.J. Barrett too He just looks like a duckie. Waddles? Yeah, it's a cute little big day for him.

Does it have anything to do with the fact that his last name is Barnes? Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah, Bucky Barnes and he plays up north. He's the Winter Soldier. I like that out of you. The chosen one for quick.

It's good writing. That's good writing. Yeah, the chosen one is random. Anybody can be the chosen one when you're a kid playing sports. Next up, Swaggy L. Stone Cold, Big Shot Q, Sandy Cheeks, and the sheriff. Sandy Cheeks.

Swaggy L. Swaggy L. It's like an 80s rapper. Sandy Cheeks. Hippa hop. Yeah, ew. That's weird. The sheriff.

Big shot. Who do you think of Sandy cheeks in the NBA right now? When you look around the league and you identify everybody, you're like, damn, his cheeks are Sandy as a motherfucker. Who comes to mind? I don't know. A lot of the popular themes are pretty like. sandless when it comes to their cheeks.

Fair? I've thought that same thing before. Listen, I'm, I'm a church. I don't think my my cheek knowledge is up to date like that. Yeah, I got talking about. And you know Moses. Yeah. Yeah. So, it's a cheek man. Yeah. I'm just right. I understand that. Um, but. Big shot Q. Quinn Grimes?

Big shot Q. Stone cold. Stone cold. Steve Austin. Austin, Austin Reeves. 316. Hold on. I think, is this the Lakers? This is the Los Angeles Lakers. Makes sense. Okay. Yeah. It is Quintrinds. Why do they call him Mamu Sandy Cheeks?

Is there my mom? Mood got to delete this nickname from the database. I saw one person say this on Reddit. I love this. They're fake because one person said it. Okay.

Actually, they called them Sandy. I think I saw somebody call him Sandy. I think I called them Sandy cheeks. I think I've been that one of. The sheriff. But the sheriff is a real nickname. Stone Cold. Someone made that up on Reddit because Austin.

And Swaggy L is a, I think it's a basketball reference, Lou Gaddaja dicknaming. I think I've seen that. I've never heard anybody call him that. And you never will. Yeah. Swaggy L. Next up, Butter, the linebacker, Santa, Bob, and Frankenstein. Bob.

Just Bob. Butter, so the point guard is probably real smooth, real shifty. Shea? Shade Butter? Right, Shade Butter? Linebacker, Lou Dor, be running over people. Isaiah Hartnstein. Yeah.

Frankenstein. This is good writing. Bob? I don't know why. Chap, just Bob. And then why Jaylon William's Santa? I don't know. Santa Clara?

Also, are we committed to this being the Oklahoma City Thunder? I think so. Yeah. This is the Thunder. He is Bob because people call him side show Bob. The Simpsons character. Got you. Okay.

So the full thing is Side Show Bob. Gotcha. Why is Jay-Dub Santa? I don't know. Maybe the Santa Clara. His school, I assume, but... That's glazed. Also, I don't know what is that.

Are they saying that he has a belly likes in there? I don't know. I can't imagine is that. He doesn't have a good. What'd you get that? People call him J-Tubby or whatever. Yeah, they call him J-Tubs. Yeah.

Because he put all that weight to the power forward, and he's moving slow. Thunderfense calling J-tubs. So, they're blowing him. That's a real. Frankenstein is. They're bullying the fuck at him. Also, Frankenstein is mean as fuck,

too. Fonstein. I get it. They found his last same. Yeah, I'm, That's my son. J-Dub's just in the lab. He's putting it away for the bedroom of the team

where they're like, listen to hear, you fat ass. Meanwhile, I bit him a better player. He was better when he got big. That's Twitter. They're going to bully their players. You should have seen the things they were saying about Luca. Oh, yeah, we know.

All right, next. Big body, the warden, Barclay, the Prince and Special K. Big Body. Barkley. Torrean Prince. Prince. The prince.

Is this? Could this be the Knicks? Of course it's the Knicks. But why is the warden, Macau Bridges? I'm a little jeet. Well, earlier in his career, or are they putting him at the three? They're putting Josh Hart at the two. But that doesn't make sense.

Because I would assume that Josh Hart is, yeah, Josh Hart is some version of Barkley. Yeah. And then you call McKell the Warden. What does Mikhail the warden of? I'm not sure, but he used to be there. He used to be like in DPOI conversations. So I'm assuming that has to do with, you know, putting people in jail. There was a year where he was third in DPOI.

Okay. That's so insane. Third? Fuck, man. What were we doing? Yeah, so we're going to get the New York Knicks here. And then Prince is OG. You think Janet Brunton, they're calling him Big Body?

Yeah, they call him Big Body Brunson. Yeah. This is the New York Knicks. That is Josh Barkley. Makes sense. Internet. Yeah. I can do some research.

Why is OG the Prince? A fuck if I know. That was one that. I found that people called him growing up, but I don't know why. Did a great vine. Okay. He stopped in. Next up, the general.

The punisher. Vaseline, Unk, and Hector Banana Bread. Vaseline. Vaseline is nasty. I'm kind of freaked out. Maybe it's me. Yeah. You're the freak, honestly.

Vaseline's a perfectly reasonable product. Yeah, maybe it's me. I'm the problem. Fine, God. Okay. So this is the Spurs. I'm just this problem. This is the San Antonio Spurs for sure.

This is the San Antonio Spurs for sure. This is the San Francisco. And that's Devin Vassel. Yes. But why did they call him Vesaline? I don't know. Because it's just a play on his name. VAS. Okay.

Yeah. They got Tobias on Karris paired up with Hector Banana Bread. Victor went bananas. I like to punish her for Stefan Castle. I think that's. You're punishing shit? Yeah. He's just brutal.

Why are you laughing? Why is you laughing? Maybe it is me too. Wait, you too? We lost you? We lost you. We punched that on. That's right now.

Fuck. Bosses, yeah. All right, next up. The Buffalo, the Prisler. Two first names. Rex Rabbit and Big Country. Big country. Two first names.

Two first names. The Prisler? Payton Pritchard? Oh, I know this is, yep. Two first names is Paul George. Big Coaches Mitch is Mitch. This is the Boston Celtics. Two first names?

I just made that one up Big country Why stay the Rex rabbit? What the fuck? You don't know? No. Yeah, I actually don't know. Do you don't know?

That's crazy. You don't know. That was a funny sonny sneezing in my ear. Good God. You tried to hold it in and made it all goofy. He did a sneeze yesterday. He did a full dab. Me?

I did. That's tough. Oh, Jason Tatum is called. X rabbit because that is what his Chinese pronunciation of his name sounds like I'm not pronunciation translation of his name the translation of his name the translation

the last name the translation for Tam's last name is Tatu Mu was closely resemble as a Chinese word for rabbit. Gotcha. Which especially translates to the cute velvety Rex rabbit breed. Pronunciation would have been crazy,

like how you get there. The brisler. Glitch, CBD, Slim, Mr. 50, and Girtniewiczki. Gertzniwisky. That's a you special. I swear to God, I didn't make this up.

Really? I swear to God, I didn't make this up. They were you know. Hey, they were cooking up. I definitely co-signed it. CBD? We'll be smoking.

They're high. Katie? I think that Katie would be slim, though. This is the, it feels like it's the clippers. Mr. 50? CB. I was saying, I was thinking CBD for, who is CBD? I don't know.

But slim is B.I. I can understand being glitched, darling, because he's like so twitchy and he's like mad fast, but girth and whiskey could, that'd be Brooke Lopez too because he's just big a sell and shoot now would have anything to do with no whiskey me my bad what is brook have anything to do with his name what is Brooke having to do with whiskey there there's no connection there there he's big there's a better connection for griff and whiskey is what i'm saying so it's either german or they actually are are wide well they're wide but they are not german

Okay, we got one down You got one down? Mr. 50? Mr. 50 is the best giveaway here. Mr. 50. I mean, Gertan whiskey, you should just get it off of that, I think. But Mr. 50 can give you what you need. Because Slims, that could be anybody.

Glitin Slim could be any player ever. Mr. 50 and Gertznywisky is a story. A story. Is this? Is this the Denver Nuggets? This is the Denver Nuggets. Aaron Gordon is Mr. 50 from all those dunks. CBD for Corrid is hilarious.

I don't know. Did he smoke? No, his name is Christian Brown, CB. Oh. Oh, okay, okay. Yep. The Momary Glitch? Moves like a glitch, I guess.

Glaze. That's so glaze. Does that even a good name? I know. Glade. I see every frame. You're not glitching anywhere. I see you clearly.

Shout out baby glitch. Next. Next one. I should have got that. Mellon. Hey, yo. Black Jesus. Seatbell.

and gobsilla. Gobzilla. It's tough nickname. Mellon. Seatbelt. So Seatbelt is probably a defensive mind of four. Black Jesus, Melon, and Heyo.

Seatbelt. Oh, this is the Minnesota Timberwolves. I. Heyo. Black Jesus is Anthony Edwards. This is a Minnesota Timberwolves. This is a Minnesota Timberwolves. Strap for Jane and Daniels.

Gobzilla. Melon. Melon. Mello. Hey, yo, I made that up myself. And Black Jesus is apparently when he grew up playing football. Apparently, his football coach

is called Anthony Edwards, Black Jesus. Find that hard to believe. What position you play? I think so. As a child, they called his 14-year-old Black Jesus. Grown-ass man calling a middle schooler Black Jesus. He's a man.

Yeah. Get out that school, man. Joe be a man. And Gobzilla's obviously, Gober. Okay. Next up. Baby boy. Trigger.

turbo, air gumbo, and the big easy. What? I mean, that's a pause. Really pronunciated. Oh, who? I mean, you speak clearly. Okay.

Baby boy. That's good. Trigger turbo. Air gumbo Zion. The book. Has to be Zion and Dere Queen. This is Zion and Derek Queen.

Who the fuck is Trigger? Trey Murphy. That's what they go on. That's true. That's true. That's true. Turbo for Herb Jones. What's turbo about?

Turbo and Trey Murphys are like the actual nicknames I've seen be used. I've never heard Air Gumbo in the Big Easy. Air Gumbo. I've heard the Big Easy. Air gumbo is. that's that's that's pullet surprise

that's perfect that's so good never heard baby boy either maybe I might have heard this baby boy it's a little weird next up

the porcelain prints skims wild thing the predicament and big data skims that the two has to be

has to be D Mitch you're pretty quick with that the predicament big data I mean that's the most

defining thing about his career right now is the skim's Damn. Damn. Not the, not this contract. Not the $7.

Not the $1. No, man. That's what ironed to your brain. He was doing ads for skins. We spent like a year. That's all he was. Meat, mind. I'm mindful of meat.

Just a freezer full of meat. That's all you think of. He went to think about a sausage for breakfast. I'm talking to you. Skims, me, Donovan Mitchell. You're watching for that one. Cleveland, Abeliers. You're correct, though.

This is the cabs. For some reason, James Hart is porcelain prince. I don't get that at all. Big data for Jared Al. Big data. He looks nerdy, I guess. I don't know. Because he is a nerd.

The predicament of him. It's so funny. Been waiting for a leap. The predicaments. Next up. How's the last one? What's your favorite nickname? Tag yourself.

I'm two first names. Air gumbo's fire. Air gumbo's actually stick. I think Donovan's a prisoner and Beesoles is... What is B. Souls? B's soul is Stone Cold. Hell yeah. Nope.

Sending cheeks. I call you baby. boy. People do say I got a baby face. Next thing we are going to do, we are going to put the most depressing NBA fan bases to be in into a tier list.

Label them S through F. I'm going to name to you a fan base that we would assume their fans don't have a great time reading for this team. We've got a tier list and based on just how bad of a time those fans probably have. Okay. Let's start with the Sacramento Kings.

Got to go there first. They really are the gold standard. Yeah. for just tortured fans. They have to be S. They might be S in all the sports, honestly. Like, there really is not a fan base that has had less hope.

Even the worst teams usually have like one player here or there, one team here or there, they feel good about. The best they had was the light the beam team. We treat them like they want a championship because they had such high hopes because they were the kings. Even the Browns have been to the second round of the playoffs before the Kings have. And what makes it so like sad too is that like the Kings have actually contributed to NBA history in the worst way possible. They literally are dormats.

they literally are like washcloths, bro. You sit down. You have to let go of Mike Brown. You have to let go of Deer Fox. You have to let go of Tyrese Halliborne. All those guys made the NBA finals the second they were released from your sackles. The best part is they did not have to let go of any of those guys. And they chose this faith by their own volition.

And you know what? I want the Kings fans to be up, but the Kings just don't want that for their fans. They don't. Next up, Chicago Bulls. they have Caleb Wilson they have Josh Giddy they have modest was eliz but they are still the Bulls they are still destined for mediocrity How do how do we feel about I mean It's been 20 years Most of these fans weren't alive to remember Michael Jordan

So if you are a age 50 and above Bulls fan It's only like a C or D you had a you had a time 30 years Since the last year Yes you had a time when you were a kid if you're of middle age If you are our age or less you just no despair Yeah over literally like the high highest points of being

a Chicago Bulls fans for real over the last less than like 16, 17 years or so is like okay, you draft, you draft D-Rose, I guess. D-Rose wins the MVP and then you have that two-month span back in 2021 when you had Lanzo, Damar, and

Zach Levine. Yes, the highlight of modern Bulls fandom is despair of losing Derek Rose. So I think they have to, loki, be an A. There's not many more tortured fan bases. They're definitely up there. I think when you start clinging on to 21 game sample sizes in December, you're at the top.

To prom, Demarder, Rosenhoops, that was your pinnacle? Tough. That's a Fred Hoydberg, man. Yeah, that's tough. Dallas Mavericks. Now, you might say, this isn't that tortured of a fan base.

We are still in the point where we can still talk about Luca Donchich, and it is a open wound with salt being poured in it every day. It's tough. They were tortured for a year, though. They're for the most part. They've been, they've been.

But now they got Cooper flag. Yeah. The question is, are they no longer tortured, or are they still going to think about Luca forever? So, you can they're no longer tortured but obviously you go do something traumatic it sticks with you for a long time but you're on the path to healing and you are healing so i think they're they're not s or a i think they're like

c okay see maybe maybe by next year in cooper flag you're ready to be an all-m-bba player they can be d or f or even get off this list but for now nico still gives you nightmares yeah they find their carl though for my ball and hours out there okay they found their rebound yeah yeah well carl sucks wow wow wow It's Cooper Flag suck. Maybe Carl doesn't suck. How about that? Maybe he's Cooper Flag.

Maybe he's Cooper Flag. Okay. Washington Wizards. The Wizards. They never mattered, right? They really never will. They got Agent DeBonson now, so maybe they do. But they have to watch AJ in those hideous-ass jerseys.

Oh, that's depressing. And they, like, every team in NBA have some type of updates. Beem the Bulls. Can they fall down to B because they have A.J. Now because they got the number one pick. That gives you at least like one. year of not being depressed. You also saw Bam like drop 80th around their head.

Ooh, that sucked. Yeah. Put him in, I don't know. We might, we have to go see. Remember, remember John Wall got hurt because he slipped in the shower?

He did. Torres E. Or Achilles in the shower. Yeah. That's just, that's just wild. That's depressing. It's incredibly bad.

Remember Bradley Biel? Had a no trade clause. That's depressing. Yeah. Yeah. Honestly, it might be A, actually. I think they're A normally,

but the fact you got the number one of all pick, that gives you like a one-year probation. year period to fall out of real depression so we can go to be. Okay. They got rookie your hope. Sure they do. Los Angeles Clippers. I steer.

You're just forever the Clippers. S tier. Because the moment, like, they had a window where they could have started taking over L.A. when the Lakers were bad for a couple of years, did not get to a conference finals, failed to do everything then. You get Paul George, you get Kauai Leonard. Go to the bubble, blow a 3-1 lead.

Now when you start to have, have some actual success, some hope on the back end. Investigation. They're depressing because they're the opposite of the Kings. The Kings never have anything good. The Clippers usually always has something kind of good and is never good enough. Is it depressing to always lose? Yes.

Is it depressing to always almost win? Even more, yes. Yeah, but you know what? They're a unique type of depressing though. They are. So you put them in a ass. Which would you rather be? Would you rather just always be bad or always be too close?

always be bad. I don't want to be at the precipice every time. I'm always running up the mountain and being pushed back down. I'm always low. You don't expect anything at all for the Kings. The Clippers are eternally pushing that boulder up the mountain and being humble by the gods. They are a living Greek tragedy. Utah

Jazz. They're fine. The jazz always like, obviously it's a rough era right now. They always find their way into like competency every decade. They always find something to be happy about. They've been making a lot of smart moves on the back end of things. He's grabbing all types of picks.

The guy is Bailey. Cody Williams looks like a good player now again, at least in Summer League. You got better. Yeah, yeah, Derek Peterson, too, looks absolutely insane. I think they're in probably B. No, actually not B. C with the Mavericks probably. Maybe D actually.

Could they be F? Should they not be depressed right now? They've been rebuilding the entire time. The only times where you're depressed is like literally when the lottery comes and you find out, you don't get the number of overall pick and you've been perpetually like at 4, 5, 6. So are they F? I'm going D for them. I don't think they're as tortured

as some of the other people It sounds like you guys don't put them an F that there's not torture it anymore Do you got You're torture for the losing does suck though Like yeah They lose a lot On purpose

On purpose So we'll go D Okay There's still a little bit tortured Pelicans F Oh they might be S actually They're S

Yeah you just know there's no light In the tunnel Brother how do you rebuild You're the first team May history to do that What do you mean He drafts on The Wizards a damn bunch of times

You drafts on And then you have to get rid of B.I. Zoh. And then JJ Renick goes away too. The worst part is it's time to rebuild, the rebuild of the rebuild. And they don't know it yet. Bro.

They went from Chris Paul to AD to Zion. Did nothing with it. That's the worst part. They don't know. They don't know they don't have their guy right now. That they need to do a fourth rebuild of the rebuild, of the rebuild, of the rebuild, of the rebuild, of the rebuild, of the rebuild, of the rebuild, of the rebuild. I think, yeah, I think when you start, when you start talking about, did this team

even be here anymore? Yeah. Should they even have the right to exist? We have to go. They let 14 games of DeJante Murray yelling at people. You know what? We don't need to rebuild. He's our guy here.

You're already your first pelagos. Do not have the right to exist. It's us and baby boy. Against the world. Brooklyn Nets. Perpetual little brothers in New York. Have to be a... Yeah, I'll put them in A.

Are they that depressed, though, or do they not give a fuck? No, I think they do. I think everyone continuously punches down on you for being known as the little brother of the fucking NBA. But that's the thing. It's not even like... They don't care. It's not even little, little, no, trust me.

I've been on the Reddit thres. They do. Those are the six people that care. Most of them doesn't give a shit. They're not going on Reddit about it. Nah, they, they care. They care. It hurts.

Notchalant gimmick, but they care. And also, bro, like, over the last, what, four years being in this weird in between era, not having no young players. Now, of course, like last year draft and this year draft is impressing. But, bro, it's been four years to get to this moment.

Yeah. Your best shot peaked at the second round. Mm. Tough. Phoenix Suns. This is a real new depressing era because now they're in this no picks. They finally get a pick. They trade it for Miles Bridges.

And they're just, the Isbiyah era is depressing. You had how many years of competency? A lot. Mostly their history, they're pretty competent until Matt Ischpia came in. And now they're nothing close to it. But remember before Chris Paul got there, before Monty Williams got there, they were like atrocious. True.

Yeah. They had the fair share of down. Sometimes for sure. Yeah, for, I would say more often than not, Devin Booker has only had like three really feel-good seasons in his career so far with the Sons, bro. Other than that, nothing's been good, bro. Like, you've been trying to see what you can get off of guys like Tyler Ullis and Marquise Chris, bro. You know, you have multiple draft bus.

I'm talking about guys like Josh Jackson and shit like that. Like, there's nothing that's been good for this organization. And you actually have good back-to-back drafts with Cal Bridges, you get Aiton or whatever, who's very important for what they're trying to do. It's it's they literally struck a lightning bro and they went straight back and took where they go I think C I guess put him in B I think they deserve being move them up yeah they have no picks too they traded a 233 pick for miles bridges oh yeah I right I they suck I did I didn't forget about that Milwaukee bucks fresh brand new entry to the depressing team club after trading honest you just stepped in there

you're enough you're enough maybe that makes it worse though because maybe they It's not as freshest right now. It's not even open wound. They just got shot. The knife is in them right now. But they might just be like, it might be the beginning stages of it. But they don't have their own picks though.

Exactly. So they know a lot of stages are coming. They're not larping. They're going to be depressed for a long time. LARPing. Are they sad? Are they just sad? Or are they like full out?

Oh, but also they just traded him so they have that brand new short era where they could be like, maybe our new young players are going to win a championship. So we're better without y'allis. We got a young core. He, two, is really nice out there.

He's from Wisconsin. Kulululah, it can be Wemby. I hate telling good people bad dudes. Are they good people? Probably all right, people. The good people of Milwaukee. Let's go beer A, I think. I think they're pretty fresh.

Put them in B, I think. B's cool. The bad people of Milwaukee. The evil motherfuckers of Milwaukee. Philadelphia 76ers, one of the always most tortured fan bases in sports. they up right now. Well, they're up, yes, you're right.

They think they're up, but you know they're not because every time they think they're up, they get even more down. They're the definition of one step forward, 16 steps back, S tier. Yeah, minimum A tier. They've gotten so many All-Stars and said, it's our year, it's never their year.

Yeah. I want to go A or S. I think S easily because they get so many tastes of good things. And they do get like somewhat close. Like they're kind of like the Clippers where they always think like, and their bar is even a high.

Like, yes, they want to win. Chip, can we get to the conference finals? No. Hell, no. Can we have a healthy Joelle and B. playoff run? No. It's so much more depressing to have a Joelle Embed and see him wither away and be wasted,

than he'd be the Kings and never have a hope of anything. Kings fans just exist and just like, I don't know, just sit on their phone when the game's on. Sixers fans live and die for this shit. Yeah. And what's even worse about the whole Joel Embed thing while he's being wasted is that, yo, like, you're going, you're having this, you're having health issues, but we have constant guys in the door. to help elevate the situation.

Started with Ben Simmons. That died out, curved out, turned around, and you pivoted to James Harden. After James Harden, burn and folder, whatever, saying, Darrymoury is a bad person to a bunch of Chinese kids. You spun around to Tyre's Maxie.

Boom, we got V.J. All of a sudden you have fucking Jalen Brown on your team. Guess what? None of it's going to matter. It won't because you're the Sixers and you're cursed. Atlanta Hawks. Work like perpetually midsose C, right? we're with the Mavericks.

The one thing we can say about your teams are perpetually mid. Man, that's depressing. Yeah. It's like I can't even experience like hope like the Pelicans could with when they got Zion. Nothing generation. You can't have Pelicans level of hope? No. I never got Zion on my team.

I never had a Joelle Embed or Co. Y. Leonard on my team. And then the kings are the faces. So I can't even compare myself to them. You never even had a title of hero on your team. Hey. All right, bro. doing too much.

Don't piss me off. You would die for an awesome reason on your team. All right, right. Why the hell are they in A? I'm not the Bulls. I'm not the Brooklyn Nets. Yes, you are? You are perpetually mid.

How are we the Bulls? But you've never had a Derek Rose, though. I never had a one-time MVP, okay, but I've had like massive success. Never had an MVP? Sure, but I've had massive success in the regular season over the last 50 years. Success. Yeah. Compared to the bulls?

He knows nothing about chips. Compared to the bulls and the Brooklyn Nets? I've had massive success. He's not about parades. Bating me, bro. You just found out a parade one month ago. But I know about it now? Relax.

His whole gimmick has been, I don't know what success looks like. He's arguing like sincere. But guess though? But guess what, though? Guess what, though? You're not a saint. No, no, no.

I'd rather, it sucks to be like the 76ers because my hopes would be like crash and burning. You know, I'm real at the end of that. I know what I see a little is. I know what it is. Exactly. I can find these ones myself. Yo, keep them in. Put them in C.

Put them in S. No, don't put them in S. Put them in S. No, they don't belong in S. Stop it. You're out voted. Put the rest. Bro, that doesn't even make any sense for real at all.

That's just stuff for pure hate. Too bad. They don't belong in. You don't got the mouse in your hand. I can get up and do it right now. They can't. How would you want to bet? You can't.

You know what? We'll be civil today. What thought? No, you can't let me get it. I'm writing checks that B. Souls has to cash. I'm going to say I'm going to look like that second-grade kid. He has the mouse. Next thing we're going to do, we are going to see an NBA logo.

We are going to see six variations of it. and we have to figure out which one is the real one. The colors will be changed on each variation. We've got to see if we can identify the right colors that naturally come on the logo. All right. All right. Here we go.

Number one. Oh, fuck. Golden State Warriors up first. All right, so four and six immediately out. Yeah, bright as hell. Someone turned up the brightness way too high. Like one is out too because that's too dark. I think one could be in place.

I think three's out. I think that blues a little bit too, two royal. Is the five is like damn near black? Is it that dark? I don't think so because that was darker. You think one's darker than five? I think it might be one.

Well, the orange is darker on one, but we're talking about the guy. I think one is the option. Three is out. The orange on the ball is way too orange on three, I think, right? Yeah, and two's a little bit too faded.

Could be two. Is it bright? It's one, two or five, right? Well, I think. Okay. Now that you zoom in One looks a little bit like

One looks kind of like Bobcat-ish Yeah Is it two? It's one, two or five The question is between one and five Is it like low saturation like five Where it's dark or is it bluish?

It's blue, right? It's not damn near black. They didn't wear black jerseys. They wore navy blue. But it's not black. It's almost black, but it's still blue. I'm gonna go with one. I'm gonna say one.

I'm gonna go one with you. I'm gonna say five I think you're wrong Oh you think it is the one It's almost black Yeah I think it's fine It is

Two Ah Damn it's I trusted you on one Fuck I knew five was too dark But it was between One and two

Okay All right So it is bright And we thought We didn't give No credit Okay next up Minnesota Timberwolves

Five out Yeah five that bright ass Blue Three out Three's faded Two's disgusting Get the fuck out Two

Because he got the blue Instead the green trees There's not blue trees on this planet One, two I mean two three and five are out One is calling to me What is difference to one and four Five is brighter

Four is kind of like a like a blue greenish One is like a like a green for real Where you see the difference on the trees? Yeah Yeah Okay I don't see no difference And the the writing

The font it's brighter on the timbre than on four Than it is on one Okay I don't think it's super bright So like I don't think six can be it Six looks better to my eye because the brightness is turned up. But I think it comes darker. So are we saying I'm going between one and four.

One and four, got to be. A, five is cracking me up. Five looks terrible. I would guess six. Do we think that it's... But it might be four. Last time it was brighter than we thought, so it could be six. Yeah.

I'm going to guess... I'm going six. I'm going one. I'm going to go one. I should be six, but I bet it's one. But it's a little ugly. It is. Six.

It is six. Fuck. He's locked. Twice in a row. We got to go with the bright one. I know. Damn. Okay.

All right. Next. Last one. Ooh, Charlotte Hornets. This is two. Oh, wait.

This is four. Look at three. Three's purple. This is four. It'd be tough for those three. I'm stamping it right now. Once again, it's a 90s logo. I feel like they might be darker.

It's either four or five. I feel like five. It's definitely not six. Six is too dark. I've reversed my stamp. It's either four or five. One, two, and three are just bright, pastel bullshit. I don't know what those came from?

Three, what the fuck? Look at the fucking blue ball. Six is too dark. It's four or five. Five? Twice in a row we picked the bright one. We picked the dark one and it was the bright. I think I'm going five.

Twice in a row we've gone too dark. I'll trust y'all. I'll go five. No, I don't. Well, four wins a lot. I don't know. I'm going back and forth. I'm going back and forth. I'm going to go first instinct.

I'm going to go four here. Got five. Four looks too green, doesn't it? It does, but... Five, it's five. Lock it in. It's five. Mo's life on the line.

It's five. I only have so many lives, God damn it. All right, here we go. It is five. You get to live today. You're not dying today. We saved you. Listen, man, I got another year.

Give me a handshake. We saved you. Wash your hands after this. What is wrong with you? I got snotty knows what you mean. You do. Snobly ass. we got one right finally

thank you thank god caduce caduce next thing we're gonna do what is the best NBA starting lineup we can make

with 2010's draft bus so how do we make a lineup of players that didn't work out that still finds a way to come together all right well at point guard I think Mark Hill Fultz

is on this list he's still hovering around the league and he's still good but he can't shoot and if we're going to pick a bunch of imperfect players you probably want maximum shooting.

But also, I think he's, when it comes to the skills, he probably would have, like, the best, like, in the league skill when it comes to all these players. I don't know about that. Like, when it comes to his driving ability. Okay. Well, so what counts is a bus? Is Andrew Wiggins a bust? Nah, I don't.

He will, he will, like, he made an all-star team. Okay. So they got a starting on a championship team. They got to have, like, done nothing. Yeah. Yeah. At center? Is Jonathan Isaac a bus?

No, he's got hurt. He has some good ears. All right, so let's let's figure out our point guard first So I think I think Fultz is up here Are we counting in Lonzo as a bus? Yes Yes yes we can pick Lonzo I think I think Lonso would be good or a good year maybe two So all right so Lonson at the one

Yeah Lons with the one that means we need a two that can really put the ball on the court Since Lanzo is like a combo guard So who's it okay There's a lot of them I know a lot of guys who just score Yeah. At that point we could take Camp Thomas is the bus though because he wasn't a high draft pick. Yeah, no one's he was a low for a reason. Other bus. Dang.

Okay. I wish Benson is counted in this right now. No, Benson isn't a bust. That's why does Lons even count because he was good before he got hurt? Probably. So, Markell, because Markle never had like a serious, serious moment of fulfilling his potential. There's also Rivers Abust. He had a lot of height.

because his name is Rivers. He's 20th. I thought it was like 2000. No, he's up for 2012. Oh, wow, okay. 10 Pickleboro in 2012. His Austin Rivers are bust. He's a, he's a bucket-getter, though.

So I'm saying I want Austin Rivers. So we're going to Mark Hill, Austin Rivers. Or just Austin Rivers is the one, maybe. I don't know. Austin Rivers. How do you feel about that? I think we'd rather have, we think, Austin Rivers. Why not?

At the one? Yeah. All right, so we have a scoring guard at the one. We're throwing Markel to the side. Yeah. You know what's in moments? Who? Number five of all pick, Dante X-Im.

Bus for the five-world pick. He had a role player moment a couple years ago. Him and Luca? In Dallas? Yeah. Two, three years ago, yeah. He had a role player moments. So you want to put him at the two?

We could. That could be something. Austin Rivers and. You have some size there? It's not a small back court? That could be something. Okay. So let's go Austin Rivers at the one.

Does he a little bust? No. He made all sorts of. Oh, you're right. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Rivers X-M.

At the three. Is Justice Winslow a bust? Justice Winzell will bust? Man, the way they were talking about Justice Winslow? Yes. Yes. Yeah, it might be. He can be a small four.

He had a moment. He has some little role player moments. It might be. Also, Chris Dung got that's number five overall. I forgot about that. Yeah, he was, they called him the next John Wall, bro. Yeah, Chris Paul comes. So is he bust?

I think so. Hey, we need Chris Don. He's an elite defender. That's actually a usable skill. Dante Xum kick rock. Chris Dunn is our shooting guard. How tall it that takes him? He's like 6.5?

Yeah. We can't put him at the three. No. He's not that good anyways. Yeah, we need Chris Dunn of the two. That's hilarious. Yeah, we're like, we don't got to die to get him on our roster. So I'm saying?

Yeah, that's cool. Okay. Who's next? Man, let's get Anthony Bennett up being here, man. Let's get some world busted in here. You're right. Let's get the busted in here. Let's get busty.

Listen, man. let's get the goat he is the go as far as this conversation he really is you really can't is John Drayton a bust I would say he was the number one overall pick no all-star teams

yeah can we do much worse than John Drayden I mean worse yeah you could take James Wiseman yeah but I mean like I'm not can we do better among bus centers than John Dr. Aiden nah he's the best one

I think we're considering him a bus yeah do you feel when you look at John Drayden do you feel I do get upset when I watch you put John Drade out of center All right. Yeah. So he's there. Or Marvin Bagley also is a bus.

I think he could be at the four. Marvin Bagley? Yeah. If we don't want to stay. Whoa. What about Jabari Parker? He was a good bus. He also got hurt.

Yeah, but also. He got hurt early. You remember that press conference where he was like, yeah, the Bulls don't play me to play. They don't give me to play defense. He's going to be bus regards. This is ridiculous. Yeah.

I think Baggs at the four, though, just because he never had a, did bags ever have like a major, major injury? No. No, I don't remember. He was just. bad. Yeah, I think but also he's kind of good.

He's still thinking, like, Bagley's a good role player. Like, yeah, he's a good role player. Disappointed for number two overall pick above Luca Donchich, but I think we could work with something with Marvin Bagley and Aiden. So we have awesome rivers.

Chris Dunn. Our shooting is horrible right now. Wait, dude, okay. Do we have a three? No, and we have no shooters. Mario Hizonia. Ew. I said, we need a shooter.

Bro, we need Killian Hayes. You just put the guy who's white. He's not a shooter. Oh, Killian Hayes. Yeah, he can't, he can't figure. Nekeling Hayes. Who's a good bust of a shooter? Michael Kiddlest of a shooter.

We need a shooter. You want to tell you a guy like this? You gave me the complete opposite. Oh, man. Here's the thing, if you're like a three and you can shoot, it's very hard for you to be a bus. It's very hard. That's why we got to think deep.

Look around. So we might have to, we might have to change our team's construction. Can I introduce you to a Nick Stouskis? Why have the Lonzo with a three? Hell no. Why not? I don't want to do that. What the fuck?

What's wrong with that? I don't know what about Auto Porter Jr. Was he a bus? He was a number three overall pick. It was kind of crazy. He got a $30 million contract. So, so did it, Aten. I don't mean nothing.

This is Autopoer, a bus, a number three pick? Yeah, he had one year. Yeah. He stayed healthy all the other times. It's not super great. Now, he is good. Like, he just can't stay healthy. Yeah.

Out of Porter Jr. is there. Listen, we're not going to find a knockdown shooter at the three. They don't got to be knocked down. They just got to shoot. Josh Jackson, welcome to the team. Josh Jackson. Dionne Waiters, do you want to stretch them out to the three? Why the fuck?

But I want to stretch out Dion Waders. That's the last person to play the three for me. You're getting real comfortable, man. I'm not playing the three. Like, of all the guys, I'm going to make play up a position. Just stretching and punching. Maybe it's you. Interesting word choice.

Is Doug McDermen a bus? He had a lot of hype coming out of high college. No, but he was not a top 10 pick. He's number 11. Fine. If you're a lottery pick,

okay. We'll take you. Nah, I don't think, I don't think so. Is Dalton Connected bus? Hell yeah, Delta Connected a bus.

He was so bad. We could put Connected at the three. He can't shoot. How you'd be an older rookie. We put Richie Shat the three? Yes. But no, this is 2010.

The story's not. Oh, yeah, 20 tens. Yeah. Man, who cares? I think we gotta go Auto Porter. Number three, we can go Auto Porter 3 and call it a day, and that's our team. All right.

What was he drafted? 2013. No go. Austin Rivers, Chris Dunn, Otto Porter, Marlborough Back with DeAndreid. How many games are we winning? Bagley ain't is tough. That's really good coaching us. 29?

Like, everyone in here has a very specific role and skill set. What does Bagley do here? Backley is not that bad. Badly is the place. What does he do? You heard him rap? You didn't tell me what he does yet at all. You said Bagley's not.

bad what does he do? He's gonna grab rebounds and put back. His mixing is actually pretty good. His mixing? Yeah. All right, man. His, I don't know who his engineer is.

He's been working. I don't know what Bagley does. I don't know what his role is. I told you he raps. Okay. Lonzo wraps too, I guess. I try to get Lonzo. You shut me down,

so you're not trying to rap max. Hey, man. Lanzo had some songs, man. He did. He was actually good. So that's our team. Let's see if you guys can build a better bus team than that. I doubt it.

Zo. Get up. Get on, get on. Hey, oh, yeah. Hey, look. Diamond's on my naked, Roots. Whoa.

But, hell yeah. What's that song called? It's called Get Off. Okay. Next thing we're going to do, we are going to test and rate every NBA player product

we could find. We have about 12 different NBA player products and we're going to test up here. Some are candies, some are chips, some our drinks, all kinds of different things. one by one we're gonna try them all give them a rating one through 10 all okay let's do

see which one these players in there on their second businesses really hit the mark let's see who's scamming yeah see who's who's getting who's who's who's who's gonna first one chris paul good eating chips good eating chips what we have we have we have a bunch of flavors we have first off the good eating tortilla nach cheese chips you want that my favorite flavor is cheese cheese yeah nach cheese chips we have cinnamon sugar puffs I do not want that you don't like cinnamon

it's fine I can I can I can we'll share yeah and last one at least we have what looks to be their version of tachis eating ragers chili lime oh that's all you

yeah yeah yeah trying to have to crumple on the mic but yeah three different types of chips from Chris Paul good eating

pretty good packaging how's the macros looking like though this is 13 chips 140 calories this is actually solid 20 people For 150 calories. Not bad.

9 grams or only 3 grams of sugar, 9 grams of fat. Decently healthy. It says no artificial flavors, no preservatives, no red dye 40. Ooh, you know I hate red dye 40. Let's see how the nacho one. Famously, you hate red dye 40. All right, so this is how the nacho one looks. Okay.

You know what I'm saying? It's all right. It's not too bright, no artificial colors. Has some stuff in it. It's like a wheat chip or something like that. Okay. They show the grains. It's good eating, it's healthy.

I'll try it. Not gonna lie. Kind of bangs. Really? It's kind of bangs. It's not bad. Okay. For like a good eating, like a healthy chip?

This is not bad. Oh, I did you realize that's good eating? It's supposed to be like it's good eats like it's healthy. Yeah. Okay. Good eating. This is good eats. I would rate this good eats.

That's your favorite? Um, my? Wait, what? All right. Let me try mine now. Cinnamon plus sugar. Okay. Okay.

Okay, these are These are decent. Decent. Yeah, they're good. They're not bad at all. Damn, you're in the whole bag? No, that's he. This is cool.

This is also the first thing I've eaten all day. All right. I see. Wait, I'm going to try that. We got this version of takis. If you think mild is boring and snacks should come with a spice level warning label. Welcome to your new obsession.

Ragers are rolled for maximum crunch and blasted with flavor. Let's see how blasted I'm gonna get do you like cocky's also yeah okay of course come oh count tastes like nothing wow I'm I'm trying the cinnamon sugar one is you're very unflavoredful okay yeah it's weird so these are that's good that tastes like surprise so these are plant base oh whoa whoa I miss that well opposed to what animal based chips I guess so I'm not gonna lie this is gimmick it's all plant based it's like we one thing we did miss it

on or you did not on him. This chip is ugliest shit. It looks like there is like ants in them or something like that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, because that's the wheaton. Yeah. The tachies don't tisian thing.

It's not hot whatsoever. Honestly, I'm going to get those tachies like a three. So this is five. The cinnamon sugar, it's whatever. It's not horrible. I'm giving this about a six.

We got to keep in mind. We must measure it for health food. They're not trying to compete with Doritos. They're trying to be healthy. I mean, it's about a six. How many chips can I eat? They do look like they're ass. They look ugly as fuck.

It looks scary. Yeah. black dots. There's an answer in this bitch. Wait, pass that back. Pass that back.

If you get just a little bit more cheese on there, that's a, that's a, it's like cheddar popcorn. It's a really good chip. I'm not glad it's a nine. Yeah.

They're really good. For what it is, I'm giving it. Stop asking for it. You're not getting it back. No, let me read the macro. No, fuck off. These are in my hands.

Brother, I'm sorry. Give me the macros. Dumb, you're not getting it back. Neither are you. Yeah, I'm gonna give the tockies a three Cheddar and nine For the macros, for the cinnamon puffs, I'm gonna give it like a nine

Because it's good and I can eat a lot of it It'll feel me up quick. Okay, I take rice cakes. Yeah, or these, the delight trees that we get to or that you get from Target. Oh yeah, exactly. So they're good.

I have nine. Overall, as an experience, I think Chris Paul's chips get a solid eight. He won't stop eating. Dude, he's munching. He was a little kid. They're pretty fucking good.

Yeah, okay. Chris Paul Shib's getting eight at 10. Yo, he's a businessman. This is good. And the packaging is nice too. Child to Chris, man. Yeah, I like the branding, good eating. Okay, I'll buy this shit.

There's also like seven. We got a package. We don't have time for it today. There's 15 different flavors in there. 15? Oh, yeah. I'm grabbing some. Yeah, we're going to ride you.

But it was a spicy nacho? Oh, shit. Might have to try it out. Oh, yeah. We do have to get involved. Oh, we do have to get involved. This is a fish. You should have left with this.

You should have loved. Don't even think you guys are getting involved This is a T.E.C. Go-Sign. Me and Beesoles. Beesles hasn't tried me. He can get involved with this. I don't like spicy things.

Yeah, you don't like spicy? I will take it. I'm bigger, taller, faster, stronger. I'm robbing you. The spice doesn't taste great. The regular cheese is better. Damn.

Better mac. 13 sets for 140. Okay. We know that's important here. It looks like a better tip. It don't look ugly. I think the regular one tastes a little better. Now, I'm

kind of scared to try it. It's not disgusting. It's nothing crazy. Just regular one to taste it. Yeah, the regular one's better. Yeah. This is a miss. It's not that good.

Yeah, the spicy flavor isn't good. Very tame. Yeah, they miss. Oh, yeah. Okay. Now, if you get some of this with like a hint of lime type of flavor? Mm, okay. All right.

On to the next one. Put me on the board, man. Let's work, Chris. La mellows, La France jersey shirt. Jersey shirt. Oh, more lamello's shit. Okay. Oh, my God.

That's kind of hard. We got a jersey shirt. It's got the LF pattern logo on a see-through mesh shirt. Oh, it's C-through? It's the LeFrance and the white text. Oh, weird. How do you feel about this? Eh?

How see-through is it? Should I put it on? I got a shirt on this. It's just a regular, like, mesh shirt. Oh. It's not crazy. I feel like I had to put this on, don't I? Go put it on.

I guess try it. Oh, this is an XL. You have to put this on. That's you. I'm not ruin this fit. Put it on top. I'm not putting it out. Put it on.

Thost it on. See how you feel. Oh, it's Puma though, too. So the quality is there. Yeah. Somewhat. We really can't give him a good experience, a good testament to how good this product is unless somebody puts it on. All right, let me try it.

Or Donovan, you don't put it on? No, it'd probably be easier for me to put it on. Let me just unbutton this real quick. He said, I'm not trying to. Okay, you can put that on. We can put that on. We want the next one while he puts it on. We'll get a progress report back to that.

All right. Next one. Russ says, honor the gift tank top. Oh, we got another shirt. Well, it's going to be a model today.

Okay. Order the gift tank top. It says, do the work reconnect, arrest, reconnect. I might need that.

You want to wear this? I might need that. All right. Prox, you put this one on. Yeah, I feel Dominican with this show on. It doesn't look bad on camera also, too.

I go to a solo cam. Yeah. It actually like fits I just hate that I hate that LF bro I hate this LF Yeah it's not a great pattern But

The vision was there The vision was there Rate it one to 10 The quality is nice I ain't gonna lie I'm gonna give it a seven Like if I saw my uncle wear this I'm okay

You know what the fuck That's tough Hold on It's kind of big though. That's tough. Wait. Oh, look, the pattern is like kind of where. The actual quality of the fabric and the lettering is nice.

Yeah, it's high quality. That's solid. Do the work. It's a message you can get behind. I'm going to take this. Hold on. Yeah. That's tough.

That's good. That's good. That's good. All right, cool. So what are you guys giving these products? Okay. Something that we do have to know to is the pricing of this shit because that kind of moves a little bit. This is $65.

How much was this? How much was that? $100 to tank up. Jesus Christ. Hell not. He's from L.A. He's taxing. Hell not. It depends how the materials were sourced. All right. Sustainable? Yeah. Ethically sourced tanked up. Maybe. I'm sure it is. And if that's the case,

I'm rocking with it. Okay. I give this 7 out of 10. All right. Next one. Still on clothing. Oh, my God. What I got on? Way of Wade vest. It says Wade on it instead of heat Oh that's tough It's like a jersey No way that's tough That says Wade instead of heats

In the back says like a heat jersey Go try to I'm putting the shit on immediately No I don't like that I win I don't like that I don't like that I don't know I think that like jersey knockoffs like that Some of them they

They kind of look tacky sometimes Yeah So I'm not I don't know if I'm the biggest fan of that I don't think I'm a fan of that at all Like it looks disgusting It looks like a YCA jersey for real If anybody can't get away with it, it is D-Wade.

It's tough. The weight is a little bit too low. It's not really doing her thing. I think at least it's like, I mean, obviously I'm not going to wear this in real life. I think it's somewhat creative as far as like just like a run-house. Yeah, yeah. I'm reading for a player product. This is a worthy addition to the Dwayne Wade environment of sales.

Yeah. I thought there'd be like buttons to it. Buttons? Yeah, because it said vest. So I thought that was. Yeah. Like that'd be crazy I'll look at this a five out of ten

It's cool What you feel the quality of it? This feels all right It's like a champion shirt or something A champion jersey Okay okay okay That's solid Wave Wade

And now we're all fitted up All right Take you this video All right next Jason Tatum Small wins candy I need some candy Let's go

Okay Oh we all have a bag for this So there's a bunch These are plant-based Non-GMO Allogy-friendly Gluten free bags of candy They're small gummies

He doesn't see. Tatum's everywhere with it. So far. Ruffles. Ruffles too. I would like some ruffles right now. That's,

classic pack. Enjoy small win. So this has, damn, I can eat this. This has peach, strawberry, green apple,

and watermelon line. You have something that you can't? A gelatin? Yeah. I see pectin and that's like kind of the line.

Okay. Well, don't worry. But let's see. Strawberry. Translucent. I think this is strawberry and peach. I'm gonna take this up.

These are hard. This is disgusting. Wait. No, man. What? No. The branding is nice as fuck. No.

It's not the best candy. Yeah, this is horrible. I'm chewing this forever. No. Is it stale? Or is it just hard? It's hard. It's like, it's extremely chewy.

Like, like, I'm eating honey out of like a honey cold. Wait. Okay. I read the ingredients. I can, I can try this. Let me see. Hold on. No, you're spinning it off.

Oh, you give it to them. Okay, cool. Okay. Well, this shit is what? It looks like a part of a key chain. Yeah. First bite. Oh, they have Tatum's face on this.

This is a bad investment, man. This is gross. Unfortunately, it's a zero out of ten. Experience the mouthwatering magic of Jason Tatum's small wins, dummies, both flavors and less sugar. Each bite is a slam dunk for your taste buds. Men to take your candy game to the next level. Grab a pack and enjoy the sweet.

in parentheses and sour fun It wasn't just sorry about that My goat This is a miss Sorry man Oh that was painful I hated that

I feel like I gotta get paid Yeah this is not good Is it supposed to be like a healthy Alternative at least Yeah every athlete This is all healthy alternatives Quote unquote Yeah don't like that at all

Unfortunately that's our first massive miss All right 10 Man where Chris Paul chips at man He's got to wrist it out He's on your ass Chris Paul chips We gotta get back to good products. Facts.

All right next. Taking on gummies, we have the Shaqalicious XL gummies. This might hit. I've never had these, but I see these at the store all the time at like 7-Eleven. I'm assuming they only carry these because people like them. Exactly. These must be tasty. And this looks like, it looks like just a regular candy with Shaq's face on it.

Yeah, look at it. Look at Shaq's face. You guys have probably seen these before. It's big. Shack's face on the gummy. That's fire. This guy will endorse anything. Oh, they are big.

Whoa. Oh, my God. It's uncomfortable. Give me a bag. It looks uncomfortably human. Oh shit. Hand that bag over. Hmm.

Good texture. It doesn't taste like a whole lot. I thought you were about to throw the candy in my way. The blue one kind of tastes like medicine, actually. All right, so it's peach, berry punch, and orange. But the berry tastes like medicine. Just a cough syrup. All right.

I'm going to try the berry punch. No, this is not good. It tastes like cough syrup. I don't know about cough syrup, but it's hard. It's fucked. The blue one's cough syrup. Yeah, we're not We're not cooking it

Maybe NBA player shouldn't be in the candy game This is better than Tatum shit though for sure It is the texture is a little bit better But the taste isn't all the way there from I'm gonna try peach Let's see if this orange peach one got me But this is not This is not fantastic

I kind of like the texture There's also like one peach in here All I see is blue and pink Oh this is this is your eye The peach is good That just pissed me out Why is there only one peach Yeah the peach tastes like a peach ring

Okay, I found one but it's stuck to the other the quality control isn't great putting this in your belly man it's burning now the peach is actually quite good okay the blue is disgusting but the peach is good

kind of rock in that tank though I'm not the line that tank is fire yeah yeah real damn it's so hard okay I see what you're saying

yeah the peach is actually it's very good give me a whole bag of peach and I'll let's but the other ones yeah the berry punch is not fantastic the berry was like actually petriated, so I'll never buy these. I promise you that.

One 10. You know what sucks about this one? They use real sugar in this one. Oh shit. Yeah. It's not even healthy. So that means they get a two out of ten. Not healthy and doesn't taste that great. Next. That's rough. Jimmy Butler's Big Face Coffee. I've never had the coffee. I actually have a Big Face Coffee cup because I found it at

Goodwill and it's very cool. I like the brand. I've never actually tried the coffee though. We'll try it up. Let's see. First we have the beans three different types of beans it seems you are the the coffee officiata and big coffee guy brand is pretty cool that's nice I know that's dope we have three different flavors or what do you call it uh that strands like it's weed I know types of beans this is multi-origin this is double star we got earth shine and nebula okay oh we're all gonna drink one okay so who wants earth shine who

wants double star who wants nebula what's the notes good question double star is multi-orgin omni it has notes of strawberry floral honey stone fruit it's fruity and bold I like I like that that's that fits you okay earth shine is chocolate plum blood orange juicy imbalance Mo is juicy and balanced

bro I don't want that that means I will have nebula which is raw actually you can add nebula raw sugar hibiscus and apricot bright and smooth I might have to get involved with that that that's nice that's better yeah I'll take juicy and balance

that feels like it describes me well so who's that he's just throwing that that description Double star, yeah. Sometimes I wake up feeling juicy. I don't know. I don't think he's... That's Mo's, that's double star.

Everybody's juicy and balanced. Just us, not you. Nebula, this is from Mo. Okay. And I get Earth's fine. And what's in this? Is it because I'm unbalanced or because I'm not juicy? You figure that at yourself.

Is this just coffee and milk? So this is just coffee and milk. It's like an ice latte. We have vanilla syrup. So if you want some of a little flavor to see how it tastes. Tastes are raw. Double star. Alright, let's start with Isaac.

Okay. Very coffee, very like, bitter. It tastes a good coffee. though. Okay. I'm not a big coffee guy. It's got a mo. That does taste quality. Mm-hmm.

What do you think? I'm not a big coffee guy, but I'm not going to lie, this is very quality, and this is, this is probably like when it comes to quality of product, and the marketing all, this is a 10 out of 10. This is a 10 out of it. This is a 10 out of it. I could drink. I would buy this.

I would buy this casually. Listen, Jimmy Butler is not a liar. Not a liar at all. The one I had is supposed to, like, tones of, like, chocolate and plum and shit, this does taste dark and, like, has that chocolateiness to it. This does have like the The fruityness, the airiness I like vanilla

Yeah, this might actually be like Delicious and I might want to drink this the whole thing I'm not gonna like this will bang yeah, this bang This is just standard vanilla syrup has nothing to do Can try yours? Can't try yours? Yeah The one with the Hibiscus notes

I just put too much vanilla didn't I? Here you go Hibiscus notes Oh this is good too I like yours better I think Okay I think I like this Oh this is good as fuck

Yeah We're out of vanilla, so it's like an actual latte I would order. This is good as fuck. Wow. Okay. You know what? All right. Shout out to Jimmy Buller.

Yeah, let me try it. Just drink out the cup. Try that with vanilla. Because Jimmy Buller is out here, and he's been promoting this for a very long time. He acts like he's very, very serious. A lot of guys. He's really about it. Yeah.

A lot of guys that feel like act like they're, you know, really about their, like, side project and they're not. Yeah. The fact that this one actually is really good. I do respect him for that. You still, you a coffee guy? You want to try it? Yeah. Vanilla latte?

Or you want the one with no vanilla. You want vanilla. You want vanilla. Come on. I don't you. I love vanilla. A vanilla type of guy. Have a track that drink.

That's actually good. Right. Like that's better than a lot of lattes that I have on the regular too. That's something you can get like at a actual cafe. Yeah. So I'm going to keep this and I'm going to use all these beans for myself. Yeah. And claim these.

And you guys cannot have any. That is okay. Yeah. I'm not. I'm not. Yeah. I'm not a coffee guy I like that

The packaging is cool too You open this Quality As fuck as dope We have lift off Damn So you get just beans And then you

You still have to like Grind it over Yeah we have a espresso machine Okay So Andre like made it Like a latte Like you get at a coffee shop Yeah

Yeah You gotta have an espresso Yeah You gotta have an express Yeah You can't just Get out the mode Exactly

He's got Grines his own beans Correct You have to If you have a good If you have a good Espresem You don't grind your own beans

What are you doing? Yeah it's like Getting a sports car I'm putting cheap gas. Yeah. When you open it up, I'm like, yo, that's so quality. I feel like you can pull out Apple Watch from there.

And this is what it feels like. And I think it was $70 for three of these. Okay. So that's not. I don't know what the price looks like. For the three boxes? Yeah. Oh, it's expensive, but it's not crazy.

It's not bad. Like if it's actually quality, then it makes sense. Yeah, yeah. It's like you can get like a $20 for a bag. So that's how big were the bags? Take a look for yourself. All right now, right now Jimmy Butler is in the lead. I think Jimmy Butler and Chris Paul are the top two.

Yes. What we got next? All right next. Going back to Shaq. Shack again? Big chicken. We're eating chicken now. I smelled it immediately we should brought it down. Yes.

Big chicken from Shaq. Chicken. Nom, nom, nom, no. His hungry ass. He has a restaurant here in Illinois. Whoa, this is fast food. Big chicken. Big chicken.

No, this is great. What do we got here? Founded by Shaq. We have multiple items. have the shack attack, which is a Nashville hot crispy chicken breast sandwich. The original snack, which is a crispy tender with big chicken sauce. Two originals, dirty fries and mac and cheese. Y'all split this amongst yourselves.

Okay. And here we have a three tender plates. Oh, my God. I'm going to dive in. I just put it back. I'm about to dive in. Y'all save me some, please. That's what I've been winning for.

I'm not going to lie. Yeah. Yeah, B. Sol's planning this. He picked this one for himself. Hell yeah. All right, so I got this three tender plate. We can start with that. We got here.

I got a sandwich. Looks a good plate. Open it up. Ooh, I got a try itender. Fuck. That's chicken. Got some toast on it. Texas toast in there.

Hey, I'm going to fuck this up. Let me get it, Tendy. The fries are a little cold, but the fries look terrible. I don't know. It's not bad. The fries. They're just cold and then you need more salt, but they're not horrible. You're trying to try it.

What do you got? Dirty. Dirty fries and also mac and cheese. This looks like garlic bread. This bread looks quite good I have the big chicken sandwich. I'm looking for it today. That looks like a picture-s chicken sandwich. It really does nice bun let me see a little bit of a little bit of slaw in here You want to you want anybody to need this? Oh yeah. Oh you got try the slaw. You got try the You got try the mac and cheese. All right jack fried chicken. That's a tough that's a tough market to break into I'm gonna have high hopes for this all right. So they have a lot of sauce this is a

This is a good fried. It looks well-signed well-fried. I can see this seasoning on it. This looks Try it as hell. I'm halfway done this shit, bang. I'm almost done with mine, brother. Sorry. It's rocking. I'm rocking with it. All right.

I'm going to try. Look, this one has some sauce on it too with the thing. Let me try this. You know, if it's one thing that a 300-pound dude knows, it's chicken. But this is good as hell. Where is this place at? We got to go again. This is good

This is good as fuck This shit check Good job You want to try the sandwich Later later Now there's mac and cheese here It looks interesting I'm gonna say that

Okay Mac and cheese can be a hit or miss As widely known Seems like it's creamy a little bit Tastes like nothing Okay This is a miss That's a big

I feel like a lot of fast food mac and cheeses, it's very, very hit or miss. You're the good in the best mac and cheese? You're going to try it? No, I'm cool. Yeah, it's a miss. Not after you said it. It was a miss. Big ass piece of garlic bread.

You give the dirty fried? Ah, damn. I forgot about dirty fries. Are you eating a muck bag now? Right, facts. Okay, not bad. You try more of this. What is this?

What is this? What is this? What is this bread? Three. I'm not my bad. I don't know why I say three like it's bad. All right, so they have dirty fries and the fries come with cheese, bacon bits, banana peppers, and all that is on top of the fries. Oh my God, God, God, God, and God, damn mac and cheese.

Oh, yeah, yeah. I forgot why I wanted to order the mac and cheese. There's goldfish on it. Yo, this is insane. This is weird and what the hell of it? This is bloominish. Okay. All right, so it's like a chili cheese bribe.

But like with baking bits and banana peppers Is there more chicken there or do I gotta say B-Soles is tender? There is no more chicken. There's some sauce in here though. Okay, I'll say you this tender. Oh, the sauce. You're lucky. I want to eat the fuck out this tender.

It is so good. Have the fries. Do you try it? That's cool. Has bacon in it? Oh, yeah. Bye bad. Thank you.

You want to try to price? He's back. You try to fry? How was it? Huh? You tried? It was cool. It's like a chili cheese fry.

It's nothing crazy. Yeah. This is overall good. stop by here for sure. Shaq's big chicken gets four big boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. Okay. Shaq is, yo, he, I see why he's investing a little bit

here and there. This is good. So. Oh, that's good as fuck. It tastes like Zaksby's. Yeah. So Shaq's chicken. Nine. Jimmy Bellas coffee. Coffee's the one to mean. That's like actual high quality coffee. This isn't like the best chicken on the market. So eight or nine. It's really good.

The coffee is like, if you told me that was whatever is known as the best coffee brand, I believe you. Yeah. All right. So we had the podium, though. These two and then Chris Paul's chips. Yes, that's the podium. Yeah, Shaq. You got to expand, bro.

Shack. Oh, also, actually, no, I kind of like the same. This thing can make podium. Over the chips? I don't know. You were loving those ships. No, yeah. The chips are guys.

Again, I haven't eaten anything all day. This just came up. Videos and Andy's and I fucked that sandwich up? I really am. All right. All right. Next. All right.

There's more? Blaze Pizza by LeBron James. Hell yeah, I was waiting for this right here I had it once in four I thought Blaze closed down They're slowly like fizzling out a little bit They're slowly phasing out Yeah yeah

We got a cheese pizza Just cheese Krusty crab pizza I'm pizza I think I might have had a one time Thin as hell They had a little pizza Let's see

They call tavern style here It's pizza It's pizza It's a pizza. Okay. It looks like, it looks like, like mall pizza. It looks 3D printed. Mm-hmm.

Let me get to a small piece. Yeah, by trying it, it's like three years ago. It's not bad. He would have been like, oh, my God. LeBron's the best. Hmm. It's like he's Italian. It's decent.

Yeah, it's very decent. It's cool. It's not special at all, though. Little Caesars? I think that little Cedars is better. Really? I'm not, I don't have that much knowledge if it comes to Little Cesar's like that.

Only been there a couple times. Yeah, this is like Whole Food's Pizza. Whole Food's Pizza is better. Yeah, don't disrespect Whole Foods Pizza is legit. This is like the most standard like imagine pizza, whatever that means to you. This is what pops up. It tastes like college cafeteria pizza. Yeah, kind of.

Yeah, it's good. Cool five out of ten. I'm going to eat this. The videos are I'm going to eat your chicken sandwich. You guys are going to go home. I live here. I'm going to eat that pizza. It won't be wasted, I promise you.

Yeah, it's good. But I also. not going to go back. Yeah. But I will eat that pizza. So that makes it a five out of ten. Like if this was at the airport, yeah, I'll grab it. For sure. Why not?

Yeah, why not? But I'm not going out of money. It has to be of convenience. Yeah, I'll eat anything at the airport. It'll be taxed at the airport. Yeah, it's going to be $140 the airport. No. True.

All right. All right. This is. Black Santa and Cece saved Christmas by Baron Davis. It's a book? What is this? Children's book? This is a children's book.

Black Santa, I will be taking that. The back says, when Black Santa arrives home after a night of gift giving, he's met with a wicked surprise that threatens to ruin Christmas. Now, Black Santa and Cece have to find a way to save the holiday, but do they have enough time to make things right? Well, I'm actually intrigued. You know, the stakes are high. Yo. The stakes are high. I want to see how that ends.

See how it ends? Black Santa has, instead of reindeer, dog. He's so lit Black Tad has dogs On a sleigh Random one with a red nose Random points Look at the illustration

He's in the lab Test tubes No, that's tough Actually That's very cool Not bad illustration No Illustrated by Shelley Johnson

And Laura Marady This is top four Pretty good art Mm-hmm It's definitely top four Solid Solid, solid Kids book

You want to read the first few pages See how you feel See what the narrative Is like Yeah it looks riveting Yeah, it looks like they set the stakes well. This feels like one of those old Disney Channel movies that I used to see. Okay, kids, as Black Santa's sleigh slowed to a creep, he entered his home for a peaceful night's sleep.

Then you see the little black dog. You already seen it before, yada, yada, yada. Okay, cool. There's a gold dog, too. Nice. This year, I flew through the sky with speed and delivered my gifts in a breeze. Candy cane! Candy cane, candy cane.

Why is that like your sport? That's what it says. That's the message points. What do you mean? Why'd you say it like that? I'll say it again. You know if you have issue with it? Candy cane, candy cane.

Can you guess what that means? Well, these pages are thick and mad quality. Thanks to my hustle. How much was his book? Yeah, that's a good question. $125. Whoa. Yo, we scamming kids are here.

I made that I made that up. Yeah, she doesn't remember. It was probably 30 bucks. I do remember. This one's 40. I think this one's 40. I remember seeing, so I remember seeing Black Santa about I didn't.

I didn't know like exactly what it was. Oh, you got the confirmation email. Yeah. Yeah. I just thought it was like the whatever company. Okay. Good. Donner runs a bank account.

So he saw Black Santa pull up into a transaction and didn't think anything of it. He thought we was getting scared. I would have. Nah, no. I was like, yeah, we're probably buying something crazy. Like, you could legitimately buy like a jet and I'd just be like, oh, yeah. They're planning a video. Yeah.

All right. Is that the last product? Yeah. That is. Black Santa and C.C. Sets Christmas get five big booms. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. All right, we were talking about the best products.

What are the worst ones here? Oh, whatever that bullshit Jason Tatum was slinging. That was horrible. Honestly, he did have the worst product here. And the worst thing about it, too, is he's the only guy outside of Shaq who has his face attached to the product, too. So it was like, ah. Bad business. You better win the MVP next year, man.

You made me taste these gummies, too. Unfortunate. This hurt your legacy. I've never seen an NBA player's legacy be decided by candy before. Here's the first. Yeah. Well, and with that being said, that is the end of this segment, and that is the end of this episode. If you're still here, hope you enjoyed that mug made.

Good eats all around. Good Eats all around. I was out of decent at him shit. Which pains me to see him. He's like Black Santa. Huh? You sound like Black Santa. Everybody gets Good Eats.

Everybody gets good eats. K. K. He made his voice Black. Exactly. No, no. He's a. He's already.

And we'll see all next week. I think.