The Deep 3 Podcast - Reacting To Every NBA Playoff Series, The Draft Lottery, & More! |TD3 Live
Episode Date: May 13, 2024Support the stream: https://streamlabs.com/thedeep3pod Today we react to all the latest NBA news! Check out the TD3 merch: https://the-deep-3-shop.fourthwall.com/ Join the TD3 discord!: https://dis...cord.gg/RUkjpMPp7E Listen on Spotify!: https://open.spotify.com/show/3elbbqVumwqz8wlIdknsLW Listen on Apple Podcasts!: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-deep-3-podcast/id1657940794 Follow us on TikTok!: https://www.tiktok.com/@thedeepthree Follow us on Instagram!: https://www.instagram.com/thedeep3podcast/ Isaac's twitter: https://twitter.com/byisaacg Muhamed's twitter: https://twitter.com/Mojo99_ Donnavan's twitter: https://twitter.com/Dsmoot3D Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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As you guys see by the title, I let everybody come in right now.
We're going to be doing it the usual, right?
We're going to react to every single playoff series.
And we have a special thing to talk about later, which we'll save for a little bit.
Draft lottery just happened.
As you guys know, somebody in here had some stakes in the game, had some interesting outcomes for their team.
We'll wait for people to come in before we really talk about that.
And somehow didn't care at all at the same time, which is crazy.
We'll talk about it later.
Someone said where the Australian's at.
That's so random.
Someone said Mo's getting caught in 4K on Twitter with him, eighth grade picks.
You want to read that comment out so much, bro.
And you're not helping it either.
Oh, we're going to cover that.
We're going to cover that like it's a news story.
But we got two quick early donations.
Shout out to Bundow for tipping $5.
He said, remember when you guys did a mock draft and Atlanta got seven or eighth,
Moe was on a cry his balls out calling the Hawks Mid and shit
Now the motherfuckers landed one
This is unbelievable
Hey, we'll talk about it plenty
We'll get both thoughts pretty soon once we get more people in here
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In a closed gym
No paparazzi available
Later this summer though
We have a date planned
For a based around time we'll already be together in a certain city
Should be good maybe we should go ahead and put it behind a paywall
Paying we could do that
Let's get straight into these news stories. Let's let's start it. We got a few hundred people you guys in here
Let's get into it
First new story of the day. Let's see what you would you cook up for us in this doc mo
The Detroit Pissants have narrowed their list of viable candidates to hire as a new president of basketball operations
And you put it in the dock.
They're trying to hire the T. Wool's president.
Interesting.
How do you feel?
It's very embarrassing if you're a Detroit Pistons fan, you know?
What?
They completely, first and foremost, like, lottery reasons, of course.
But on top of that, seeing the guy who's at the top of the NBA right now
and all of his work is being noticed and he's getting that congratulations for just even
competing with the Denver Nuggets at this level to, like,
leak this out right now in the midst of the playoffs is embarrassing as hell why for the
pistons for the pistons absolutely yeah yeah i mean listen everybody knows right their poverty
franchise at this point in time they can't get anybody to have meetings with them i don't i don't
know how like as bad as they are they haven't had a number one overall pick since kade and
they should have been at least in like the top three over the last couple of years
And Adam Serber's like, listen, you guys are going to have to get better to get some of this, you know, lottery look.
Like, he's like, I'm not putting these ping pong balls in the machine for you guys if you, if you don't try and start looking like a serious franchise.
So, dude, they got the fifth pick three years in a row.
You know how hilarious that is?
It's so tough.
You know how downtrod now would be if I was a Pistons fan to go Jaden Ivy, Asar Thompson, and now whoever they didn't get in fifth pick when there's so many great players at the top after being so pitiful for so long?
I would be broken.
This year's the only year, though.
But this year is the only year where you can kind of be like,
all right, like I guess it's fine.
Like if you were the number one pick when like last year, last year was tough
because you should have had Wembe.
Didn't work, you know, work out that way.
If you were in a draft where like Zion was there and it didn't work out,
like that, that sucks.
But this is a very open draft in terms of who people think is going to be great.
So you're going to be okay.
Yeah, maybe not last night, not even last night because it happened like 3 p.m.
3 p.m. yesterday was what the 82 season game was.
They broke records.
They were historic pieces of ass last year, bro, or this past season, you know.
And for them to go ahead and to get the fifth overall pick after having to watch
James Wiseman minutes consistently.
And then Marvin Bagleyman's who's like actually a good player, was he going to get traded.
So just like all this disarray.
and all that just for it to
for you to get the fifth overall pick
and get surpassed by the Houston Rockets
and the Atlanta Hawks
it's like a shot to the chest
and it's like all right
we can't rely on being ass anymore
we got to do this like
we actually have to use our ranks this time
alright let's look at this entire draft lottery
let's get straight to it
draft lottery happened
this is the official
lottery we're looking at Atlanta Hawks
jumped to number one
Washington to
oh my God
say it one more time for me please
no
Washington number two
yes number one
okay there we go
Houston number three also moved up
San Antonio 4
Detroit 5 tough
Charlotte 6 Portland 7
San Antonio 8
they get two in the top 10 that's interesting
Memphis dropped to 9
and then all the guys at the bottom
what you'd expect to be at the bottom
what are y'all's main takeaways
what are your thoughts
well go ahead
go ahead
just go just go just go i mean what can i say this organization was
borderline on the fringes to being like buried six feet deep we were we have been
historically mid for the entirety of our fucking organization what can i say but specifically
during this try young era seeing how we failed him year after year after year and we're in our
like third iteration of this atlanta hawks team i ain't go lie to you adam silver saw
What's been going on?
He's been seeing the tweets.
Trey Young saying, oh, we should have had, like, the number one ping pong balls last year or whatever it was.
He gifted us because he knows that we have a bunch of, you know, like,
there's an epitism going on in the front office, and we need help.
Every single year there has to, I believe the NBA lottery is rigged.
Every single year, Adam Silver has to be like, here, dams that you can't do it.
I'll do it for you.
Here's a pathway, a direction, some gems for you to unlock and give yourself a ton of,
of avenues to be successful and that's what he just gave us we got we got gifted one of the
better one of the best defensive prospects probably the best defensive prospect in this draft
class and obviously this is what we're known for he immediately helps aid that and on top of that
too the whole tray young thing whether or not we want to trade him hogwash in my opinion but
even if that was to actually happen we would be in a better real quick moh
hawks got gifted Alex R no we just got gifted we just got gifted we just got gifted we just got gifted
$100 by Philly Loving Ginger
One of one of my most consistent
donors came in with the 100 bomb.
Shout out you, man.
We've got a lot more donations to get to
we're going to get to once we've got right up to the segment.
Shout out Philly Loving Ginger.
Oh my gosh.
Thank you, Philly Loving, Jr.
You just made my day
way much even better.
Yeah, so the Hawks got blessed
in the worst draft class
to possibly get blessed in
that use all the draft luck
in the worst year possible.
But it's cool.
It's interesting.
Shut the hell, man.
Get out of here.
This means a lot.
You're just, you're just,
you guys don't got shit.
You're fucking begging a 40-year-old man to come back to your team
so you get your ass, bounce out of the second round.
You ain't on shit.
And I can't say none to you, Donovan.
I respect the New York Knicks now.
And we'll get to them.
We'll get to them.
It's not looking good for him either.
Don't worry about that.
But first of all, it can't even mean that much because Moe tweeted out,
Moe tweeted, oh my God, the Hawks are in the top five.
And then didn't say anything for the next three hours.
And so then we're texting Mo, right?
we're texting in the group chat like oh my gosh the hawks got the number one pick don't get a
response until like after the next game and then i just like don't tell me you were you were sleeping
and mo takes right back sorry guys i just woke up obviously it wasn't it wasn't important enough for you
to stay up five more minutes you couldn't last one more commercial break to find out if the hawks
actually got the number one pick you knocked out we didn't get you to a doctor's office you will sleep
through anything this is not normal listen listen i can't believe i slept through the most important
time of my organization's history i can't believe it but something i will say is that i did manifest
this i went ahead and i dropped the meme of lebron looking hell and mysterious i was like yo the
hogs were sliding into the top five man it's playing with crystals out of here
i had a meeting with clutch sports actually i can't say too much because you know they're all around
you never know but it happened and i manifested this
And you guys are just mad, jealous
and you don't have Alex on your team
I'm okay
Are you sure you're okay?
Yeah, I am
So we get to the rest
Obviously, the Hawksbury
I plain talk about
Like most said earlier
They got Trey Young
Who's possibly going to get traded
If they don't trade him
They can trade Dejante
Bring in Alex Tsar
Or whoever else they decide
You know, it's a wide open draft
Doesn't got to be Sarr
A lot of avenues for them now
To do interesting stuff
and have a multitude of options
depending on how they evaluate
different people on the team
and who they can bring in through the draft.
What do you guys think about the rest of this order, though?
Like the Wizards get number two
just feels like quintessential wizards, right?
Like you're garbage and you get
in a draft that is one elite guy
and a bunch of whatever,
of course they don't get the elite guy
that just feels quintessential wizard.
Yeah, I, you hate to see it for them.
You really do.
But like, honestly, whether they had one or two,
they're going to mess up the pick anyways.
Like, I have very little faith that they're going to be able to develop whoever they draft.
So that's fine.
Houston, listen, winning from that trade.
Shout to y'all, right?
Because the Thunder, once again, have multiple picks in the first round.
It doesn't matter for the Rockets.
They have the best pick out of all of that.
They get the third.
And San Antonio, two top ten picks to help out Wemby next year.
Oh, yeah.
Changes are on the way.
Changes are on the way.
This draft doesn't have the Palo Bencaros, the victim women, Yama, Zions.
nobody at the top that's like
I'm gonna take over the league one day
but there's a lot of good players right
there's a lot of good role players
that can really help teams
and build around teams
that already have their main guy in place
that's precisely what the spurs need
right they're gonna get a second star eventually
every team like this does
every team makes their KP trade
like the difference for Luca
their whatever trade
for who you want to put next year
to second guy
they need to in the small amount of time
they have left where they can be guys
that draft up high before Wembe makes them too good
they gotta fill out that young core
and have supporting pieces around him
they're under contract for a long time
time two top 10 picks is a perfect way to do that because I don't think they're ever going to be
drafting the top 10 again for quite a while exactly yeah Trey young winby two top 10 picks
we're cooking at this point right we're doing we're doing something I like someone in the chat
just said that mo looks like Michael Pennix Jr that's hilarious I see where he's coming from
that's hilariously racist Isaac he just grouped in with whim just now I look nothing like him
it's it's only the fact that he's wearing a du rag right yeah that's what it is it's probably
is that actually no loving it's okay so you don't look like him but i see where they're coming from
i see what they're coming from i see what at first glance they said that like it's not i'm not gonna say
i'm not gonna say it we've seen much worse lookalikes in this chat this isn't this isn't
we're close to the worst one you've got i'm not i'm not gonna say i'm gonna text it to y'all
you just looks like a regular dude so you're a regular dude you look like a regular dude too
I don't have to
eat this
yeah man
outside of the
outside of the Spurs
having a top 10 pick
the Grizzies spot of 9
which you know
they could have been blessed
with a crazy high pick
and like really
dissidently nuts
but 9 is still a good spot for them
especially because they need a big
I don't know
I don't know if you text me
but I don't even know what that means
I don't even know what that means
back to the stream
everyone's like what's going on here
I'm sorry.
The Hornets and Blazers being a purgatory again is hilarious.
That's also pretty funny.
Y'all need to relax.
Oh, shit.
Oh, man.
Not as good.
We move on.
Bronny James is staying in the draft.
If y'all want to focus up real quick.
Yeah.
Good for him.
He's not going back to school.
How do y'all feel?
Great news.
I, back when it was like, you know, the news unfolded when everyone heard, he was going to go ahead and enter the transfer portal and enter his name in the NBA draft, but also, you know, listen to other schools or whatever.
I always felt like it's just a smarter decision, like nine times out of 10, especially when you're such a clouded name like Brani to just go ahead and join the NBA as soon as possible.
Because injuries happen, you never fucking know.
You just want to maximize on what you, your talents as soon as possible.
But why the fuck wait to make millions of dollars and change the rest of your life, you know?
And so him doing this is smooth.
It's smart, especially when like some idiotic team is going to be like, I got to go get it now.
Like, what if the Landhawks are like, fuck it?
Brunny James Jr.
So it's just so they can try to pry away LeBron from fucking Lakers.
Like this, some team is going to bite.
And it's smart for Bronny's his leverage.
And listen, this is the weakest draft class.
And some people think it's the weakest draft class in 25 years.
So if he goes back to school, even if he gets better, what is he going to, like, he's not going to go.
higher next year probably because this is a week of class,
unless he has a great year, you never know. But like
GMs are smart, most
of them, and they know if they look at him
and they feel like he has potential, I can craft him
and get something out of him as a role player,
they're going to think that this year or next year.
It doesn't make a difference. If somebody thinks he's going to be the next
Peyton Watson, they're already going to think that. So going
back, if you don't really feel like
you're going to make some huge jump, it can make sense
to just get it over with. And again,
one thing that everybody
has to understand where Bronny
is that like, obviously last year,
didn't look great, he had a heart attack at the beginning of the season.
Like, if you think, if you think that Brony is talented, every, like, before his injury,
everyone's like, look, he may not be this, like, crazy superstar, but he's a very smart
player.
He's a good defender.
He knows how to make the right passes.
If you think that he has those types of instincts, then you bring him into your, onto your team,
and you say, okay, a year after your injury, you can start getting back up to basketball
speed and now you have that type of like you know good winning role player type of archetype on your
team and low key can be a steal if you think that he already has those those talents like you know
within himself so i don't think it's a bad thing for for brownie to come out i think a lot of teams
like mo said it's going to be another like shabazz napier situation where it seems like it might be
you know they might be they might be looking to draft brony for the outside chance that lebron goes and
signs with them yeah yeah as napier is a dude who lebron was like yo i really like this dude's
game before he i think it was like during the 2013 for agency or 2014 for agency and then
the miami he drafted him and he left yukon legend yeah let me get some more donations real
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Roddy James measured at 6'1.5 without shoes, weighs 210, but a 6-7 wingspan.
How does that impact your...
You know, the whole vision of him is his defensive guard who can kind of be an Aview, Bradley, Pat Bev type.
It's not very tall.
You know, he's listed at 6'4 in college.
He's not that.
I mean, that's fine.
It's like, if your wing span is six inches longer than your actual height, like, you're going to, yeah, yeah, you're going to be able to play above your position.
And, like, I don't think anybody has ever seen Ronnie and been like, oh, yeah, he's going to be able to guard one through four, right?
Yeah.
If he can just have the skills, be able to guard, you know, ones and twos, maybe, right, handle a switch onto a three and handle some wings from time to time, he's going to be okay.
It's going to be fine.
I'm very curious to see if he performs, like, crazy at the combine and his, like, his vert off the charts, his speed is high.
Like, I want to see those numbers and then see how people react to that.
Because that happens in every job class with somebody's, you know, somebody's number,
somebody's measurables go crazy.
And now everyone starts fiending over them.
And they're like, oh, my gosh, if we could just get him into our building.
So I'm ready to see that.
Yeah, he's interesting.
Obviously, people, today on Twitter has been the day to dunk on Bronny.
And people are just being very negative being, oh, he's nepotism, all this shit.
He shouldn't be a top 60 pick, all this shit.
He's interesting.
You know, he's not going to be a lottery pick.
There's no reason to overreact and, like, trash on the guy.
We'll see what we can do.
because obviously there's some traits there
that people have pointed out for a long time
will be interesting to see if you finds the right fit
that can really get the best out of them.
100% agree.
On to the next story,
Brandon Ingram is expected
to be the most likely Pelican to be traded at this offseason.
Some people say it is an inevitability.
I feel like we've been saying this for a long time.
I was about to say, surprise, surprise.
If you've been listening to us for, what, two years, right?
We've been saying this, honestly,
since we started the podcast that somebody has to go and it's probably going to be brandon ingram
just because the the ceiling on zion is so high nobody's going to trade for c j mcclum and give you
crazy assets back and brandon ingram is a nice mixture of that and he just doesn't fit so you're going to
have the ball in zion's hands you're going to go get some more complimentary pieces and when you have
herb jones and tray murphy those are going to be the wings that you start so brandon ingram listen get
get your realtor on the phone i know you have i know you have the break go get you
yourself a nice spot you're gonna be okay it's gonna be all good yeah man it's what do you guys
want to see trade for him because i feel like branding him stock is an all-time low and i'm looking at
the chat right now people are saying get out of here good riddens get him out of here like people are
sick of branding him on this team they want him to be moved i don't know if anybody is jumping for joy to
try to get them on their team i know some cabs fans have some interest maybe i think warriors fans i
some people say that too yeah i see someone in the chat saying the philadelphia 76ers and that's
actually like i kind of like that a lot considering like the pacing
how different in a pace of speed he'll bring to Tyrese Maxi and a jollum be led offense.
But that makes sense too.
Of course, we've been talking about the Cleveland Cavaliers for the longest
just because we've been hoping to see the cast fail as well.
But Brandon Ingram was like the type of player to give your team a higher ceiling.
But at the same time, like, he, I don't see him as like a world changer necessarily.
You know?
Yeah, chat, spam, who you guys want to see him on.
Let me know what team you guys think would make sense.
I saw someone say the Sixers.
I like that.
Like you said, Moe, I like the Sixers.
I think that makes sense.
They need some scoring punch, what Tobias
should have gotten them.
You know, people will have, like, theorized,
oh, what did Jimmy Butler goes back?
Because there's rumored to be some friction around his contract.
Hmm.
But in terms of a big wing who can score in an inside-out way,
like, it's a similar type of role for a team.
I can see that fit.
Now, something I will say is that,
We talked about the NBA draft lottery, whatever, cool.
I think the Houston Rockets have a top three pick,
and they're just in a position to where, like,
they have so much young talent already,
and having too much can be a bad thing at times.
So many wings, they already have their bigs of the future,
guards future and shit like that, too.
So what if they would entertain trading away this third pick
to the New World Spockings?
I don't really think so.
I think that would be in the stick of my opinion.
I think the Pelicans do that in a heartbeat.
Yeah, they would.
I mean, because if you can get the number three overall pick for Brandon Ingram,
who we all agree, he's a good player.
But even in a subpar draft, top one, top, like your first three picks,
those are still kind of guys that you think can come in and be franchise cornerstones.
And I don't think Brandon Ingram is that.
He's, again, still really good.
it's not one of the guys that you would want to be like one of the two best players on your
team if you're trying to build like a championship roster so sadly he feels like a
Washington wizard he feels like he feels like he feels like a guy that does not really have
a place like a legitimate home and Washington is going to go and they're going to try
and maybe you know be impatient they took a risk on on Jordan pool didn't really work out
you could pair Brandon Ingram
with Kuzma and Poole
get yourself a mid-three while you're rebuilding
that's what it feels like to me right now
gross someone said Indiana I'm seeing a lot of Mavs
I think it might just be one guy sparing Mavs
I don't know about that one
Indiana is somewhat interesting
yeah Indiana is interesting but
there may be a lot of like too much
intersection between Pascal Seahakam and Brandon Ingram
I don't really like that that much
yeah yeah I don't know he's a very good player
that can definitely help a team but he's
needs to be in the right fit for him and it's not that he's like a hard player to
get the best of him you know like he can be fined a lot of places for him to be really
great it has to make a very specific fit i think same vibes as de marta rosen is what i hear
i mean kind of kind yeah i mean he can shoot better than bar de rosen for sure but in terms
of the way he plays the ball in his hands i think it's sort of similar yeah i can see that okay
next story austin rivers this i'm quoting awesome rivers here you know there's a got to be
something good. He said, I can take 30 players right now in the NBA and throw them in
NFL. You cannot take 30 NFL players and put them in the NBA. I mean, he's right.
He's right in spirit. I don't know if there's 30 guys that you can put in the NFL, but in terms
of like an NBA player being able to transition to the NFL easier than vice versa,
that statement is correct. You know, like the dominant receivers in the NFL,
right even the big like red zone threats all them like Julio Jones
hold on the the audio is going crazy somebody said it's something started lagging like
crazy and skipping around I don't know what to do about that chat let me let me know
if it stops because I don't know how to fix that apparently stream labs is going crazy
I don't think they can hear us that's awful huh yeah I don't know what do I do about
this we see y'all you all refresh the stream you all refresh I think it's fine now
We were saying it's fine, no.
Yeah, I thought so.
Okay, go ahead.
What were you saying, Donovan?
About the wide receivers?
I don't think they couldn't hear any of that.
So go ahead and restart that.
I was saying that when you think about even like the most dominant wide receivers in the NFL,
like you think about a Randy Moss, A.J. Brown, or Julio Jones.
Those guys are 6-3-6-4, right?
That's a two-guard.
That's a two-guard in the NBA.
If you take a three, like if you take a Paul George who's 6-7, he's boxing everybody out, right?
If you take all these guys who are right there, they are very dominant.
red zone threats at minimum.
So, yeah, that transfers.
What's your thoughts on this, Mo?
I've had this debate a lot with friends and college.
I don't want to hear your first thoughts.
I mean, I'm not a huge football guy,
but in general, I agree because I feel like the skill set in basketball is more,
it can be duplicated more into other sports.
Meanwhile, football is like 50%, maybe even more just like physical traits,
how fast, strong you are.
how high you can jump and shit like that and of course that stuff is important in basketball
but it's not as important compared to football and i think there's certain skills in basketball
that just like is made for an elite football player like the ability to have like accuracy
passing wise and just overall like vision on the field and shit like that what are your thoughts
you you you play football over here and you i don't think either could do either i feel like
is a meaningless conversation. NBA players aren't physical enough to survive getting hit
by strong safeties if they put wide receivers. NFL players are some muscle-bound
motherfuckers that aren't skilled enough to run up down the court and be able to hang. I feel
like, I don't know, you got to pick one that can do it better. I don't know what's how to fall
on, but I feel like both would struggle a lot more than they think. For sure. Yeah, yeah, for
sure. But like, Anthony Edwards could go and like, if you give, I truly believe, if you gave
Anthony Edwards a summer, he could play, he could play some football.
I don't know,
do physicality.
NFL is fast as fuck.
That type of game speed
you have to have experience
like high level college
to be used to
to even make that transition.
They are fast and strong as hell.
Like those hits are different.
I don't know.
NBA weight room is different
than NFL weight room.
Even the most strike.
Anthony Edwards is swole.
It's still like put him next to Julio Jones.
He's going to look real normal.
That's okay.
You give him a summer.
I'm not saying he could do it tomorrow.
Right?
But like,
they like,
their skills do transfer
more and it's and you've seen so many instances of all these football players that used to be basketball
players and then people were like all right like come over try you know try football that doesn't
happen in in the NBA you don't have former strong safeties like yeah I was you know I was Ed Reed
in high school but I just decided but I just decided to play basketball like if you if they could
play basketball they would but they're just not they're yeah they're just not built the same
And then also not as skilled.
Like that's a crazy amount of skill level to be in the NBA.
Yeah.
There's in general, there's like a bin-running meme for years,
as long as I've probably been alive.
If we're like the second you see,
you can tell when a motherfucker plays football
in like a pickup basketball game
because there's just OD physical.
You know, I run his ass, dumb,
yeah, throwing shoulders and also their shit, you know?
They just lack those important, minute, nuance skills, you know?
Yeah.
Interesting conversation.
Next door we got back to basketball
The Chicago Bulls are still looking to compete next season
And aim to re-sign DeMar de Rosen
I don't want to do it. These motherfuckers love mid
We're talking about it so long
They're addicted to the mid grind
They like Chris Paul got addicted to going to the finals
They got addicted to going to the playing
And they have the means to make it every single time
So they refuse to stop
It is disgusting
What are they cooking?
Nothing
Nothing
They are not cooking anything
I can't talk about them
It bothers me
whenever we talk about the Chicago Bulls
what's left to say
what's left to say Mo I don't even know
why would I mean
if I'm tomorrow Rosen you must be
like happy as hell
you know because this is like more free
money no expectations
just go out ball
dab up a couple kids
high five takes some selfies as you go home
you know so if you're
tomorrow you should be happy as hell but for Chicago
Bulls and Bulls fans is just like
what are we doing here what's the goals
like what is the plan there is none you're just sitting down watching the opposing team play basketball
anytime to enter your arena someone said send him to iraq that's right said and send him to wongdong
send him to iraq oh my god he's saying we need more bodies down there what the hell
kettie said i care too much about demar to be happy for him staying in this organization
and that's the real shit i've ever heard from a bulls fan like for damar this is
is just hilarious like he's just
perpetually stuck in this bid organization
if he wants to be there he's the one sign of the contract
so good for him fine
but it's such a waste of time for all involved
like if they're going to give him a huge money take it
by all means tomorrow but like
who also gives really speaking who else
will give demard Rosen that time of money I don't think there's
anyone else maybe the Pistons
six cents why the fuck were the Pistons
while Demard Rosen eh
I don't know there's no real team
that's just like okay yeah we need him
he's the missing piece no teams like that
Maybe the Sixers, but
60 wouldn't be bad, actually, now I think about it.
But still, that wouldn't be my number one option.
Yeah, man, it's not great.
Now, I'm not looking up for the Bulls, but when is it ever, right?
This is nothing new.
Bulls are being Bulls, so be it.
A bag is a bag.
Last thing I have in this doc before we get to the playoff games.
Which team are you taking?
Team blue, team yellow, or team red?
Look at these names on here.
Wait, zoom in, let me see this.
I'm zooming in as I'm going.
We got Yokich, Kobe.
They put Kobe in a blue jersey.
That's very hilarious way to get around this.
We got Yokich, Kobe, and K.D., Ad, LeBron, and Steph,
or Jordan, Hardin, and Joelle, Embed.
My question to you guys, off-rip,
which team looks like they're the worst?
Well, they had to give Michael Jordan the two frauds
because he's two O.P.
So that's the one immediately, I'm like,
you got two weaklings here.
Okay.
Not really.
Jordan's out immediately.
I don't know, he's not out of me
He's not, it's in beat, I'm just kidding
He's not out immediately
They fit really well
Yeah, exactly
I think that team outside of like
The yellow team there
I don't know, all these teams fit really well
Okay question
Is this for a three on three tournament
Or to build your team around play five on five
Three on three
Yellow team's out
Yellow teams out
Yeah
Why?
You can't because stuff is there
And bucket
It's gonna be ISO
Three on three is a fucking ISO
And all three of these players
are gods in 5V5
but these aren't the guys
you want in 3V3
Wow
Okay
I think team blue would win
Jordan and KD are the best players here for 3v3
Is that fair
I agree I agree yeah
After that
Kobe and Joel Mbiz
I don't know
Yokic is Yokic
He's not how he plays
But I feel like if you like made him play in that situation
He could cook just as much as Mbid
But I agree
And also if you are doing like
like if you're doing yokech versus ad and mbid he's shown he can cook anthie davis yeah right
if need if need be he can give anthony davis 50 and so like that's that's fine the imbid part of it
they're they're a wash imbid can't really guard yokitch and yokit can't guard imbid um but the big
difference the big joker in three on three is hey we have the seven-foot version of michael jordan
in Kevin Durant.
Yeah.
But James Hardin's also
one the best isolation players
of all time.
Like he's not exactly a sloucher.
I'll take that match with him and Kobe.
I don't know.
I think 3V3 is like strictly,
it's so strategic.
And I feel like James Hardin and Joel Embed
that red team just has like virtually no real weakness.
And like I can pinpoint things about team blue.
Like Yolkits his defense mainly.
Of course, like Hardin is going to be
Cook to Goose against Club.
Kobe and Katie, like fucking everyone else.
But your center being bad on defense in a 3B3 setting is such, like, a damning thing to have.
But not really, though, because you're not, like, you're not doing the traditional five-on-five, you know, full, full rotation.
Like, it's a lot of space, but it's not, it's not the same as, like, an NBA game.
So Yokes doesn't have to be running all over the court trying to help people.
He can kind of stay in a certain spot.
and the same way that we kind of got Steph out of here
because of the one-on-one,
the weak link defensively for team red
would be James Hardin.
And so who is he, who is he guarding?
Is he guarding Kobe or is he guarding KD?
Because either way, probably going to get messed up.
I'm starting to pull.
Chad, let us know what you think.
I see you guys saying a lot of different things.
Let's get this poll going.
Right now, 85 votes in blue was running away with it.
Jordan is really good.
I don't know.
Exactly.
He's quite the advantage here.
pretty easy
the best player
here
I know
like people
I think
no it is
I think a lot
of fans view
like him
and Kobe
as a wash
it's not
it's not
I mean
in a one-on-one
setting
yeah
okay
you know
like
yeah
maybe Katie's a
difference
Katie
is KD over
hardens
probably the biggest
advantage here
I guess
if you're going to
claim Kobe
and Jordan
is a wash
it's let's say
the bigs are
even footing
let's go team
it as KD
I think that's
You have three guys who all have the exact same package
In Jordan, KD, and Kobe
Yeah
I'm in Team Blue it is
I think I'm lean Team Blue, yeah
I trust them more
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Let's talk about the playoffs
You know, the main thing we're here to talk about
We got through all the new stories
A little fun sections
Let's talk about the four playoffs series
That are going on right now
Let's start in the Western Conference
With the most exciting playoff series
So far, I think pretty easily
Denver Nuggets versus Minnesota Timberwolves
Last time he came up here
Last episode of the pod
The T-Wels are up 2O
Coming off of
The Single Most Dominating Defensive Performance
I've ever fucking seen in game two.
It was a legitimate masterclass
without Rudy Colbert
put on at the highest level of defense
I've seen in my lifetime
because I wasn't really around to watch 04 Pistons.
And we were all like, listen,
this is the first time the Nuggets have had adversity,
first time Yokic is back against the wall.
How would you respond?
They responded like the best team in the motherfucking world,
came back, won two straight games,
figured out a lot of stuff to help their offense
look more like Nuggets offense who know in love.
How are you all currently feeling about this series now?
wow we just got news that donovan mitchell's out for game four for the cleveland cat versus the boston solvers but anyways
we'll touch on that later um yeah but we'll get to that this is wow well that series is over yeah
exactly but that's a wrap gotcha no dares garland you're ready to speak new orleans
have been saying it wow that is huge okay but back to this denver nugget series like you're saying
and isaac the last thing that we saw i don't i think the last thing that we saw come back from like
down being down to oh was the milwaukee bucks versus the uh phoenix suns in the finals if i'm
correct and it's so hard to do so considering how bad the the minnesota timbles have been
offensively like anthony edwards has been for the most part spectacular but car anthony
towns has had like wild ups and downs throughout the entirety of the uh playoffs you spotted it
out i believe last stream or last episode isa you're like the teals are number one in offense
you know everyone is hitting their shots and keel alexander was fucking on on since then last two games
hasn't been on snowsry same old story applies to him as well last game he didn't perform as
badly but he hasn't been the same nozary the first two games so if they can't get it together on
offense and the guys are other every single player other than anthony
Edwards, like, do their thing, then it's like, it might be cooked.
So someone said, why is Isaac Mewing?
His motherfucker thinks he's Kelly Ubrae.
That was their own job.
But, um, yeah, you're right.
The offensive rating thing was something I pointed out, and I was like, if they're
going to be the best offense in the league on top of the best defense, they're not going
to fucking lose games, clearly.
That was, safe to say, that wasn't ever going to last, right?
They weren't going to be the best offensive team in the league.
That's ridiculous.
So we knew that would, that would level out a little bit.
The question was how much.
Can the defense still carry them?
Because that was the biggest thing, right?
The Nuggets were extremely uncomfortable, extremely out of rhythm in the first two games.
The Nuggets are built on interior passing.
They're really a smash metal team.
And the Timberwell was pretty much completely eliminated that interior threat.
You couldn't throw a lot of to Aaron Gordon.
Yolkish going to the post was incredibly cramped, incredibly crowded, hard to deal with.
And the Nuggets made some good adjustments.
They decided to play a little more spread out.
Aaron Gordon was more on the perimeter instead of just in a dunker spot.
Yokic attacked isolations one-on-one instead of being passed first.
Jamal Murray looks a lot.
better, a lot healthier.
He wasn't able to get just destroyed by the primary defense like he did in the first
couple of games.
It makes a big difference.
And all in all, they made small adjustments that led them to be able to play Nuggets
basketball more.
And I think we're kind of seeing the way it probably should play out in the beginning.
I think the biggest adjustment that we've seen is we're witnessing how why in real time,
why it's important to have multiple ball handlers on your team, who you're, who you're
super comfortable with making decisions.
Like, of course, Yokic, the main guy there outside of Yolki.
that's Jamal Murray.
And the guy that really makes things click and brings him all together is Aaron Gordon.
That's why it's a part of reason why he's so valuable to this team.
Getting Jamon worry off the ball and allowing him to just like run around and not have so
much eyes and attention towards him while he's been laboring through injuries.
It's like huge in his game danger.
Yeah.
What do you think, Don't?
Yeah.
I mean, listen, this is what happens.
Like when Jamal Murray plays like Jamal Murray, that is, that's the key, right?
you can't you can't it's honestly as simple as that like i was kind of nervous for the nuggets
just because we haven't seen jemal murray play well consistently all playoffs long and the one
game that he had that was crazy was the closeout game against the lakers and even then he was
like 13 to 28 he took he took 28 shots to get 32 points and so it was a very very high volume day
and we haven't seen the like efficient version of jama if he's going to be 11
of 21, 8 of 17,
so shooting like that, rather than 3 of 18,
6 of 14, then everything
looks different for Denver. And if that's
the case, then Denver
might win this in 6.
Because on top of that,
you also got the regression from
Carl Anthony Towns.
Yep.
2020, Carlton's the Towns is back
and better than ever, or worse than ever.
Good Lord.
Yeah, he's up and down. And
that was, I came out and praised his team
and I was like, listen, good for them. They're looking like a championship
caliber team. And the reason I said that, and I never said that in the past, was because
I said I was dead wrong about Carl Anthony Towns. I gave them the profits out the season,
but I didn't never pick them as a top two, three team in the league because I had serious
concerns about what Kat and Gobert look like together in a playoff setting, because I think
Kat as a four is easier to expose than a lot of other team's key players. First six games
to playoffs, I was dead wrong. He was bawling. He looked incredible. Last two games, not so much.
It kind of looked like the things we had, you know, concerns with.
And not to overreact the two games, because he can very much come back in the next game
and look like he did in game one and two and win them some games to get them back in the series.
But it's always something we've got to worry about.
And we don't really have those worries with the Denver Nuggets.
Their biggest issue of flopping was Jamal Murray being unhealthy.
He's back.
Aaron Gordon is a gigantic X factor.
We're going to get to the Dallas Maverick series.
They've won two games because PJ Washington has turned into Clay Thompson.
Aaron Gordon is the same type of X factor.
Like I said, they put him in the perimeter in this game to really negate.
some of the spacing issues they had with him in the dunker spot
and you see where those reps
with him being the number one option under the line of magic
you see where that comes back now because he has that
ability to put the ball on the court and create
so they can't just play off of him and ruin the spacing
they're the complete team we thought they were
yeah you're absolutely right
dude throughout the first
throughout the first what seven playoff games
so far for a car-in-a-town
he's shot 58% from the three-point line
that is ridiculous those are shooting splits that are just like unheard of and last night you know one for four is just not going to be good enough and five for 18 just as a whole is just not going to be good enough considering all the other ways that he can only affect the game at the brightest of levels you know like he's a rebounder can put his hands up distract shit or whatever but outside of that like he's not going to give you no ball handing he's not going to be like a force defensively like erin gordon can be at times and
Like you said, Isaac, like Aaron Gordon being displaced early in his career through Atlanta Magic being their pile of ban caro before it was officially like before, you know, they went through their thing.
Yeah.
Like the amount of ways he can affect the game without even shooting the ball well is insane.
And Carl Anthony Townsend needs to find ways to go ahead and fight the game and do positive things if it's not going to be falling.
Can you do that?
I don't know because I don't know if it's, it's his player archetype to do that.
Chad, who do you guys think is going to win?
chat let me spam it up let me hear you guys thoughts you're hearing us you app about it
who do you guys have because after two games it looked like timber wolves finally figured the shit
out now the nuggets are the nuggets i don't know it's gonna be tough donovan how you feel about
carla how you feel my anthony edwards don't i mean anthony edwards is still anthony edwards
like he still is the the player that that we thought he was he was going to be and he's still
you know playing great i just think that everything the supporting cast for both of these
teams really flipped over the last two games and especially game four where again you see if you
give yokic his second star and Aaron Gordon to step up and you get two of those guys to rise and then
on the opposite side Carl Anthony towns and Nas read now go from being elite role players and elite
like second options to dropping down to where Gordon and Murray were that's how the entire
series flips. And so over the next three games, is Carl Anthony Towns going to be in foul trouble,
right? We know that he's, he's going to give you one super fouling game. Is he going to give
you two, right? Is he going to take 15 shots, give you 13 points over the next three games?
That's, that's going to be key. I don't think Aaron Gordon is going to be Clay Thompson. I don't
think he's going to be Steph Curry. But is the last game, all that Minnesota needed to see to
and now they kind of have to respect him as a threat
for the next three games, right?
Like those things are going to be good.
And I want to see what Mike Conley does
over the last three games.
He didn't have an amazing game.
That's crazy timing.
Someone in the chat just said,
you look like Mike Connolly.
Crazy timing.
Y'all are in the same wavelength.
Both think about Mike Connolly.
It's all good.
He's key.
He's critical.
And they need him to show up.
And it's fine.
He's a superstar.
He's everything that we thought we were.
So we're good.
Yeah.
After those first two games, I was on Twitter, and I was like, we talked about it, right?
It looks like the 04 Pistons plus D-Wade.
I was like, I want to see this team make a finals run.
Like, I love what I'm seeing.
Like, this team is so likable.
I'm like, I'm excited for the Timberwolves.
I'm like, for the first time Minnesota basketball is moving me.
And I'm like, do I want to see them prosper?
Do I want to see a championship be hung in Minnesota?
Wow, what character development?
I fucking lied.
As soon as I see the Nuggets get back into the series, I was like, yes, fuck these puppies, fry them, get them,
out of here. Like all my Yolka fandom came back and I realized that I was supporting them at
a cope because I thought the nuggets were screwed. Now that I know they're not and I my true
feelings came out, I am praying on their downfall. I want to see Minnesota losing a reverse
swept so badly. This guy. Oh, you're disgusting. It's not really honest. Nasty. I'm happy
you brought your honesty out because that will happen if someone like Zeta McDaniels in the last
like five, six games, he's only made two, three, fourers.
No one's talking about that because of how stupendous his defense is.
But you cannot be a starting small forward in the NBA and just like just make two, three-pointers throughout the last six games.
He's right now he's currently going through one of the worst loves of the entire season, which just came at the right time.
And then like we talked about early, like the Nikila Alexander Walker's of the world, he just can't put up six and two points in both of these pivotal games.
You know, so hopefully I can't, can these guys?
have like three straight bad games i hope not because there's so then this product is
truly cooked and it sucks because like you we talked about a little bit like you asked
donovan how he felt about anything edwards we didn't talk on him too much but this
motherfucker is attending ascending right in front of our eyes he dropped like what 44 45 last
another something crazy like yeah i ain't a lie he's doing it he started he started the game and
everyone's like everyone um over the weekend we've all kind of calm down off of like michael jordan
comparisons and we've set it on is this Kobe right that was that was the next level because
everybody started saying like okay we're going too far he's not Michael Jordan let him leave
let let him you know let him breathe let him live and then it goes to one step down in
Kobe so he is he's going to dominate and he's going to he's at the point where if he isn't
scoring 28 to 32 points a night you're kind of shocked at this point in the playoffs because
I have a question for you what's up I think Isaac
hasn't brought up on the screen.
But how many players are you taking over Anthony Edwards right now?
Exactly.
Let's talk about it.
I tweeted out yesterday.
I said, if Yokit, Janice, and Bean, and Luca are the top four players in the league.
And the next tier is Shea, Tatum, and the three old guys, being Curry, KD, and LeBron.
Whatever already want for all these people?
Is Anthony Edwards in that second tier now?
Because it doesn't feel crazy.
It doesn't feel crazy at all.
I think he's on the same level as Tatum and Shea.
100%.
And you can make the argument that he's better than both of them.
I'd slow down there, but I think he could be on equal footing.
I'm speeding the fuck up.
I'm not even slowing down there.
I'm saying he's better than both.
No, these guys are first team all the NBA guys,
for a reason.
I think, I'm not to get too recancy bias.
But is he first team all NBA level now?
I think he is.
I think he's going to be in that running for going forward,
like starting next year.
I agree.
If he can take what he's doing in these playoffs
and add 10% of that to his regular season game,
game he 100% can be in first team all NBA conversations yeah and previously I think we
all ranked him as like 15 or 16 when we did our last player rankings which is he's no it was
good I had him I had him lower I had him lower personally but yeah okay he made a leap he was like
right behind Donovan Mitchell for me I think had demit at 14 and him at like 15 or 16 now I we
we all we've all said in recent weeks that we think and is the best shooting guard in elite
we saw him play against Booker we saw them all in totality and we feel confident put picking him
over Booker, I had Booker
as a 10th best player in the league. So
to me, at minimum, that makes Ant the 10th best player in the league
or something around there. And that feels like
the floor to me. He's at least in the 9-10 range.
Yeah. I
agree. I think Ant
is going to be, at the end
of next season, Ant is going to be
extremely high on a whole bunch
of people's list. And with that,
I want to take that, and we can take this
to do two things, to transition
quickly into the Celtics Cavs series
and into our debate
of the day because
I think
that at the end of next year
Jason Tatum
is going to be closer to being
a top 15 player
than a top 7.
Why are we so reactionary
much Jason Tatum, man?
I can go. Oh my God.
I think we're going to
and dependent on like how
you want to look at it in terms of
are you building your team around them.
are you like are you taking him right now would you take him in a playoff series
i think that there are i'm i'm going to list the names of guys and i think that he's going
to be closer to 15 i hate that y'all make me defend jason tatum because i'm not even jason tatum
but twitter and apparently you are everyone is so reactionary about this guy acting like he's a
bum because other people are great i'm not saying bum i'm still saying top 15 not just you not just
you top 15 is ridiculous this is jason tatum
keep going back let's your names let's your names go ahead going into a
playoff series next year
would you rather have these guys
Luca and B Giannis Yokin Shea
I think I think
when you get to Shea is where it's a conversation I think him and
Shay are pretty close
LeBron
That's fair I'm taking LeBron
Everyone
He's just 41 next year
I don't know I think I'd rather have Tatum
Did you see what LeBron did so far in the postseason
compared to what Tatum is done so far
He had his first 30 point game last night
Again
he has some cold games
I get it
we've seen Jason Tadden in the playoffs
many times
he is a great playoff player
you said it in India
in our previous episode
Jason Tatum hasn't scored 30 since March
he just scored it two days ago
he broke the history two days ago
and it's about to be Memorial Day
and he has one 30 point game
and so there's that right
so what did I say
I said look and be Giannis Yoki Chei
LeBron Steph
I
Sure.
I'll take, I'll take Steph.
Anthony Edwards.
I think I would take Anthony Edwards.
Okay.
I'll give you that one.
That one's close.
I'll just call it a draw, so I'm fine with you going Anthony Edwards.
Now, this is where we get into team building area for me.
Okay.
Right?
Wemby.
Sure.
Oh, wow.
Okay.
What are you saying team building?
Wendy.
Okay.
Well, first you said taking a playoff series, and now you're saying team building.
So which one is it?
What are you judging?
Listen, even at the end of next season,
I think I would take one be in a playoff series.
I have no doubt that anything he's going to do is going to,
I doubt that he is going to have any type of fall off.
So I'll do that.
John Morant.
No, now you lost me.
Jason Tatum is better than John Moran.
I think at the end of next season,
I think it might be a conversation.
It's a conversation.
Why is that?
Because you're assuming Jaws and they get better.
And why are we assuming Tatum's, like, Tatum's not old?
No, but I think that, I think that Tatum,
and we've seen this over, like, the last couple years,
and specifically with this playoff run and really with this year,
I think that Tatum, it feels like he has a cap on him.
Okay, that's fair.
And Mo's been on this for really the entire year.
But I'm watching the Celtics team.
and for a team that has this much talent
and a guy who is first team
all NBA
there shouldn't be as much doubt
that we have about the Celtics
if they like like if you take
Shay if that's if that's your line
right of where Tatum is for you personally
and if you take Shay and you put him on the Celtics
I doubt that I'd say that we believe in the Celtics
much more than we do right now and it just feels
like it feels like it feels like there isn't
I'm not again I'm not saying
Tatum is bad I'm not saying he's a bum
I'm not saying he's a fraud
All I'm all I'm saying is top seven top five
He just might not be that level of player
That's fine
I mean he's at the conversation telling me he's at worst eight or nine
So I think top 15 is where I'm like
All right let's be serious now
But I understand
He doesn't have quite the ceiling of some other superstars
And I think that's mostly about the way it looks
Like he doesn't have the scoring avalanches
that we just saw Anthony Edwards do that we see you can shake scores and bunches but his
floor is his score his floor is super high he's a highest floor star two-way player that can fit in any
scheme great defensively can play on or off ball we've seen them score 50 points in game sevens
before like we've seen him do crazy stuff and i've seen donovan mitchell average 37 in a series
and and like we're still like and there's still there's still areas where you think
Donovan Mitchell may not be able to carry a team or be the number one option.
Like, again, I'm not saying, I'm not saying that he's everything, that everything bad
that everybody's saying is.
But for guys like Jimmy Butler, who rises, for guys like DeMitch, for guys like, you know,
even Devin Booker or Kevin Durant, those guys we've all kind of said, they are really,
really good in the playoffs.
Some of them are risers.
And Jason Tatum has not been.
He hasn't been a faller.
He's having, he had a rough week and a half on a team that is incredibly loaded and isn't as reliance on him so he doesn't take as many shots as he did last year
He hasn't been a bump for six months. We're acting like it's so much more dramatic than it is
We've seen him be great in playoff series many times before this season we didn't have a super team
They're just they're asking less of him now and he's not being as consistently high volume of a shooter
But we don't got to pretend the past few years didn't happen
I'm not going to lie
It makes it so much easier to hate on Tatum
Since he's a Celtic
That's what my thanks on it
You're so unbashful about it
You're like fucking Celtics suck
Yeah exactly
He could be on the most arena
He could be on the Utah jet
Well actually they're in the same category
So not the Utah Jazz
But like on some on the most random team
And I would feel as much static as I do
But yeah
Something I will say is like
for him and what he does best
and how the Celtics
built this team around him
it just makes issues
that he has like even worse
magnified because they still don't
or haven't had like a true point or whatever
and how they get all the playmaking responsibilities done
is just dissected and it's just by committee
you know they don't have Mike Conley to like
let's take a look at this
little shit down and all that
in his last series against in the first
around against Miami. He averaged 21 points per game, right? And I was like, oh my God,
the sky's falling. He's a bum. Before that, he averaged 21 points per game in 2022 finals
against the Warriors, a series where we know the Warriors locked him the fuck down. Outside of that,
every single playoff series, since 2020, he's averaged 25 points per game or more. The minimum
is 25, much more than are closer to 30. He's a playoff performer. He's consistently the same
Jason Tatum we see in the regular season. I don't think we need to label him like some kind of
playoff dropper just because we see other guys have had some ridiculous few games he is very
consistent see the thing yeah it's just like for me i can agree with looking at jason tatum and
donovan mitchell in like a similar tier because it's like you guys are fucking insane scores
obviously jason tatum's defense is like a genuine it's a genuine upgrade but so is like the level
of shooter that donovan mitchell is that's like starting to consider as well the thing with both of
those two is just like what are you going to do that just is like unfuck withable what are you
going to do that that can control the entire flow of the game and make you like unfuck withable
you know and i can't envision that for guys like jacin satem and that's like i like i me
preferably i'd group in minute with someone like don't have been mitchell and be like yeah i see
these two as like similar enough players yeah and i get that and again he's like i said but he's a high
floor not as much of a high ceiling guy so i understand
the desire to want somebody
who can take over and win a game
more so than he does
but I think it's definitely also like a balance thing
where
you know yes he doesn't have that
quite that same ability
as consistently we've seen him do in the past
like I said he's had 50 in the game seven before
so it's not like he never does it
but I think it's a thing that weighs
itself out in overall his impact
and how we can play off ball how we can defend
at a high level space the floor
pass enough do all these things
I think it weighs itself out in that way
and that's fair
that's fair i'm not saying i'm not saying at all that tatum is a bad player i'm not i don't even
want to call him a fraud or bring that like terminology into this conversation but what what i
what i am saying is there are it feels like right now that there are some deficiencies in
in terms of just how jason tatum is as the as the number one option where mo says like he hasn't
gotten to that level that you look at you look at at some of like
the best players where it doesn't really matter what's going around them like what's going on
around them they're going to be able to kind of cut through and we've seen luca do it she can roll out of
bed get 30 right and so you can you can you can discuss about you know how impactful that is
but for tatum to be 6 9 260 have the widest shoulders in in the game like it doesn't ever
it doesn't ever seem like he is ever seem like he is ever like unequivocally the best player in the game
and so for somebody at that level who we talk about as like a six in the league seventh in the
league i feel like we should have more moments of that for tatum and we just don't and so that's what
i'm saying going into next season if that doesn't that doesn't happen this playoff run or or even
next year i don't know if we're having the same conversations about them i can understand that i mean
I think the biggest thing
would be younger players
passing him up
like you said
and Wembe
are people we can
which is crazy
because he's like
27 he's like 28
like he's like he's like
he's like in his prime
and the fact that
23 year olds
are passing him up
that's that's kind of
it's kind of crazy
that we can even envision it
it's just that's just more
about generational talents
coming to league you know
it's not really any fault
of his own
it's just that there's crazy
players coming up
that are replacing
the older ones
that have aged out
that Tatam's passed up
it's kind of just
natural hierarchy
how it goes over the years
but at 27
when you're in the
peak of your powers
Well he's not slowing down
It's not about him
It doesn't matter what age he is
When Wembe hits his prime
He's gonna be better
It has zero to do with Tatum
It's just these Greek gods get born
Sometimes
Yeah
We're in the most talented era
Basketball field
We've been saying this
We literally say this every single year
It's insane
He's on watch
He's on watch
I'll say that
Fair enough
It's gonna be hilarious
If he wins the finals
Average night 22 points per game
And everyone seems like
Oh fuck he finally got it
But it's with a super team
Yeah
Even more funny when Derek White wins finals MVP over him.
Oh, that'd be awesome.
That's going to be real nasty discourse.
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y'all slander Tatum so much about the 30 balls like he doesn't average 27 also you're
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appearances thank you one time but that is something that is something that's hard to do that is true
and I give you props for that still doesn't matter I'm not taking Tatum fair enough so you're just a
hater and you own it so I understand I can't even argue with you you're just like fuck them
they wins the finals and averages 25 or 26 or whatever it takes and wins that finals MVP
I'll give up my hater badge.
But for now, I'm on it.
Fair enough.
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let's talk about the new york nix
new york next we're up to oh in this series
we're looking like they were going to edge out and find a way to
advance the conference finals fulfilled donald's prophecy as a nix fan
when he spoke into existence post ogena nobie trade
and then ojianobie's like
fell off. Straight off the bone. Hamstring injury for like the fifth time in the past three years
of his career. And they proceed to lose the next two games. They're an infirmary team. Mr. Robinson
is also out. We know Julius Randall hasn't played. All the Sharves been playing 48 minutes
a night. They're looking gassed. They're getting right off the court for two games in a row.
How are you feeling, Donovan? I mean, I don't know. Listen, it is what it is. I said after game
two, I put out a video talking about, you know, the Knicks and their, you know, and
they're, they're running everything. And I said in that video, I wouldn't be shocked if game
two was the last win of the next season. Oh, wow. Why did you say that? What was reasoning?
Well, one, because OG was hurt. But you, if you look at, like, if you look at the ways that
they were winning those games, they were all coming down to the last five minutes of the game.
the Knicks were getting every single questionable call go their way even when you go back to the Philly series right like all those games are super super close and you just can't keep going like that it's really really hard to keep winning games like that and for the Knicks to not have Randall Boyard Mitch and
and OG between those four guys that's like 55 to 60 points that you're taking out of the lineup that you're asking
everybody else to to overcome guys we saw alec burks and jericho sims minutes jericho sims in the
second round of the playoffs bro like the team is just so down bad the depth was already um an issue
coming in to the series that was one of the things that we talked about where i was like it's not
going to be easy playing the pacers because not only do they play fast but they have bodies that they
can throw at at the nix and new york just doesn't have that and so if the nicks end up losing this series
in six it will make sense
and they're just going to have to go back to your drumboard
and hope that next year everybody's healthy but
yeah it sucks man it sucks
they I think they could probably win in the game
I don't know if they're going to lose in six like you're saying
but listen you can only deal with so many injuries
like they're already overachieving because they didn't have Randall
and that's just even no matter how you feel about Randall
that's $30 million a salary on the bench that you don't have
to replace with other people you know you're just depleted
based on how you're distributing your money
that's a big part of your team
they were good aside from that
but you can only lose so many bodies
before it starts to take a toll
and OG is the most important player
of this team besides Brunson
when we saw them acquire OG Anobi
they immediately became the best defense in the league
and looked unstoppable he got hurt
and they looked mid as fuck for the next month
it's no coincidence that he came back
and they looked great in the playoffs
they need him because you see these lineups
they can put Josh Hart at the power four position now
and maintain spacing and shooting
but then you're smallest shit
and you have him
guarding Pascal Seyakum
which is a mismatch for obvious reasons
or you can go big
and put precious Sachua out there
and then your spacing sucks
it's awful
they have no combination of spacing
and size now with OG gone
who is like the best combination
of spacing and size you could want
from a good defender like that
it's just so clear that the hole he leaves
there's nobody else in the roster
that can fill that
and it makes it hard to put together
elite lineups that can really keep up
with the team that's fully healthy
yeah it's rough man
It's rough.
So, yeah, I don't know what's going to happen in game five.
They're coming back to the crib.
I'd be shocked if we, like, got destroyed again just because the Pacers had one of the
best shooting outings that they had, and it's fine.
And the Knicks for all of their shooting, you know, like prowess that they've showed
throughout the playoffs, Jaylen Brunson had a bad game.
After four straight, five straight, whatever it was, 35, 40-point games,
you're going to have one bad game it's okay but they can't they they have very little
margin for error and jalen brunson needs to come out and he can't start slow they can't afford it so
yeah yeah who do you think he's gonna win chas fam it off who do you think is winning the series now
yeah at this point in time it's just looking like it's it might be cooks whether it's like
six games or seven games or whatever it is i'm like 100% leaning the pastures away
health the biggest thing biggest reason why they're just
simply overtaxed at this point and relying on Dalyland Bruns to still give you 35 while he's
laboring on a strained foot while like his second his second third option on the court
O. Jananovi is gone. You're asking for too much at that point and you're just overtaxed.
Yeah. And Tyrese Halliburton's three-point shot is coming back. He looks more like Tyre's
Halliburton now. He's playing well. Two shit 35 point games, 20 in the last game, but four
for 10 from three, shot 40%. He's looking like close.
sort of healthy Tyrese Halliburton which he I'm sure he is healthy right the hamstring was in
fucking January I don't know if it's still affecting him but he's looking good Tj McConnell is the
difference this bench is eating the Knicks alive who are like I said incredibly thin all their
players are hurt and then you have the pacers who have the best bench advantage in the league right now
of remaining playoff teams it's just a lot to overcome yeah I listen I I I disagree with that though
because the like the Pacers bench has been going crazy the Knicks bench has been
The link's been to scoring like 80 points a game.
Are they really?
Josh Hart, Dante D.
Josh Hart, Dante, Hart, inside.
All these guys are bench players.
They started the year on the bench, and now they're here playing 48 minutes.
That's what you mean.
You know what I'm saying?
Bruce McBride.
When did he have a 20-point game?
I was like, what are we talking about?
All these guys started, they all started the year on the bench, and now they're playing 48
minutes in the second round.
And the number one thing that we are going to talk about right now, and if they
lose this series. It's going to be the talk of the entire offseason, which is Tom,
it's going to be Tom playing his guys to exhaustion. Can you keep doing this? Is this
sustainable? He ran his guys into the ground. And that's going to be the idea or the prevailing
narrative going into the off season. But for the next, like, you just have to, it sucks, but you
have to hope that next year you're going to be healthier. I can't believe the Pacers are
going to be in the conference finals. The team is so mid. Dude.
2021 repeat this too all right all right all right come all right all right all right we're not
going to have those conversations right now but we'll spare you but we'll say this if this just
shows how important it is in the NBA to like not waste any time and truly try your best
every single year because things always happens injuries happen and shit like that and the
indiana patients i'm not sure if they make i'm not sure they make it this far if they didn't trade
for like Pascal Seaccom like this season.
And because they're having so much playoff experiences
as they've exposed what needs to be developed on their team.
And we all know what they're really good at,
with they're really bad at.
And we just got a lot of information.
But this shows how important it to literally try every single year
because you never know.
And I know like Milwaukee Bucks fans are just feeling really down bad right now
because injury luck, of course, kick their ass.
And it's just another waste of year when they could have been in the specific situation,
trotting their way to the NBA finals.
Or easy car with finals, at least.
How unfortunate.
Now we're going to be watching Pascal Siak
when Tyro's Halliburian get blown out by the Celtics
while all we talk about is,
why did the Celtics lose one game?
Ah, the sky is falling.
And we're going to see the Celtics get to the finals
with zero resistance.
It's going to be nasty.
Sick.
We can move on to the next series.
Let's talk about the Celtics.
Celtics versus the Cavaliers.
Once again, two series in a row,
the Celtics lose game two,
and the sky fucking fell off.
Everyone freaked out.
We came back game three.
One pretty easy.
Now they're up 2-1.
And Donovan Mitchell was not playing tonight in game four.
Obviously not a good thing.
Obviously, I think they're going to lose.
We'll see.
The crazy things have happened.
But I'm not expecting a Cavaliers win.
So I'm expecting the Celtics to be up 3-1.
Ready to go to the conference finals.
How are y'all feeling?
Man, the Celtics' whole path has been the most boring path of all time.
Their expectations is literally championship-abust.
And on top of that, you give them a Jimmy Butler less Miami Heat.
You give them a Cleveland Cavaliers who nobody has believed in for three months now,
and now D. Mitch is out.
And then you're probably going to give them a Knicks team who has six players
or a Pacer's team that everybody knows is like, you know, run fast,
track meet style of basketball.
It's ridiculous how easy their path is right now.
So I really don't care about the series right now.
But shout out to them.
Yeah, because of them, right?
I was just going to say, like, the Celtics just feel like the most put-up or shut-up team ever.
Like, okay, we get it nice.
But we all want to see you overcome what hasn't been able to been achieved since, like, 2008 for this franchise.
What were you going to say, Isaac?
Uh, I don't even know.
Oh.
Yeah, I don't much to add.
missing, I don't much to add.
They're obviously without Chris Osporzingis, which is a significant blow to some extent.
But they still have enough.
our power to beat this Cavs team, even without him.
And now that Demet's gone is and give them essentially what we think is probably a free
win, barring something crazy.
I think there's nothing to talk about anymore.
The Cavs don't have a chance.
We're going to look forward to their offseason for all the reasons we've talked about, right?
Big decisions to make with Darius Garland pooping his pants, with Jared Allen not being there
now, and we see if Mobley as a center, do you feel that that's promising?
Do you feel like he needs to stay power forward?
Lots of decisions be made for them.
But I think it's business as usual for the Celtics.
Listen, Max Streets game tonight
Max Chew's game 6 plus 3s
Let's book it
Hammer the overs
This game really tells us what Darius Garland is about
What is his line at?
Let me see what Max Drew
That is something to watch
Let's mention that
Because Darius Garland
Has had a struggling year
In large part because people think
The fit with Donald Metro wasn't great
Also he had that injury
That caused him to lose a lot of weight
He had that was it a broken jaw
That made him lose a lot of weight
And he hasn't been able to put it back on
And get to the rim at all since then
we'll see if
the fit issue's gone
no de Mitch
you put the ball
in his hands
and tell him
to win us a game
we'll see how he responds
legacy's on the line
on the lowest
max
max shoots his line
two and a half
for three
have threes
he's knocking at
hey man
I try
listen I'll talk to y'all
real quick
they're going to make
some investments
okay
jontay
okay jontay
All right, you can move on.
Listen, the Celtics will have plenty
to talk about them in the future.
Not much to say right now.
Let's talk about the other most exciting series
because we're getting back to the West
for games that matter,
games that are interesting.
Thunder versus Dallas Mavericks.
Dallas Mavericks took a 2-1 lead
after PJ Washington once again came up big,
once again made the Thunder pay
for leading them open in the corner,
made all the shots needed,
defended at a high level.
2-1 lead now for the team that
I think when healthy we all would have picked them
we all did our power rings
end of the season and we all ranked them as ahead of the thunder
I think but Luca hasn't been healthy
and Max and Cleave is not there so there
was some question marks right it was like maybe he's
lokey more like Thunder and 7 because they're really good too
right now it's still anybody series I think what do you think
go ahead
I was gonna say like I still have
I almost have no idea who's winning this series
still and all the ways that the Dallas Mavericks have
one, I would have imagined that they have lost.
PJ Tucker being the consistent in the series was not foreseen to me at all.
Luca Dunge is laboring on that knee still.
Of course, like not being the Lucas, the Luca we've known over the last 80 games or
whatever, that makes a difference.
So, but at the same time, the Oklahoma City Thunder and what they're doing with Josh
giddy it just kills all momentum and it's just literally like a free 10 points always on the
board whenever he's on the court because of what he does on both ends like anytime he's on the
court it's quite literally like six on four you know at that point in time I think right now
I'm encouraged by what I'm seeing by Dallas defensively mostly I think it'll still be
close I still think it's going seven but I unless we see a big adjustment from the thunder I'm
leaning more towards Mavs and seven right now which is easy to say when they're up to one right
they have a one-game advantage.
But I think they're doing a really good job,
especially we saw in the third quarter,
the second half this last game.
They really forced the Thunder into isolation,
got them out of their offense they want to do,
by just having a really switch-heavy scheme
and forcing Shea to attack good defenders one-on-one,
which they have a lot of.
And that's why they lost this game.
The first half was really close.
The Thunder had a lead,
and they blew that shit in the third quarter.
They had like a 16-4 run
where the Mavs came out and just beat the shit out of them
in the third quarter.
Thunder were getting locked up.
taking terrible shots,
not doing the normal small, small pick and rolls,
not doing the normal stuff,
just forcing bad shots in isolation,
looking like the Phoenix Suns.
And I thought that was just like,
you guys are blowing it,
what are you doing?
Call a timeout, Mark Dagnol, get some shit drawn up.
But when you go back and watch it,
I think it was more of the mad's defense
did a really good job
of taking away those pick and rolls
and forcing them to beat switching defenses,
and they just didn't have the counters for it.
And I don't know if they're going to be able to fix that.
Yeah, I agree.
And I think, like, that's game two,
in game three, and maybe even, yeah, no, game, game one was, was a blowup. But yeah, but for game two
and game three, those were the kinds of games that I thought Oklahoma City would win in this
series. And so, like, coming into the, coming into this round, I thought that OKC would be
better just because all playoffs and even all year, they've shown a really, really high ability
to execute down the stretch. And Shea has done it time and time again, like just being a super
clutch player making tough shots.
He's three of 11 in the last two fourth quarters.
And it's not good.
And what Isaac just said is very, very key.
And this is my main takeaway from game three is that Shea normally is able to get
to his spots and he can knock down shots from anywhere.
It felt in game three, like he could not get anything that he wanted.
It felt like every shot that he put up was a bad shot, that he forced everything.
What's up?
Wow, we'll fall asleep, bro
That's so crazy
I put you on the isocanus now
Because you're falling asleep
I'm not gonna lie
I was literally falling asleep
I've been yawning like eight times so far
I put you on the ice okay
Because I saw it
And you're
I don't know why I'm so sleepy
That's so rude
You're getting bored to sleep
By the Dallas man
My apologies
I don't know why I'm so sleepy
bro i'm telling you i think you're an arcolectic i think you need to go to a doctor
i've never done that before i think you need a diagnosis
on the stream is crazy i close my eyes a couple of times and i'm like i'll be fine
but this time my mind just went somewhere else they said they said your forehead is so
big it brought your whole face down
down on sideways
some spabit
unc facts
but yeah man
what was I gonna say
first game we saw the thunder
pretty easily beat them
and weirdly enough
the thunder had a huge
rebounding advantage
and you know
that's always been a weakness
of theirs
the maps weren't able
to make them pay
they wore these last two games
that's flipped
and we're seeing
typical thunder weakness
there
and just
we talked about it all year
they needed back up big
and neglected to do that
because they thought
the options that they could acquire
weren't meaningfully better
than Jalen Williams
Big Jailen Williams
Big Jaylon Williams
And he has looked like ass
He has not been particularly good
He's getting dominated down low
Not making it up for it with threes and skill
They just basically don't have a backup big at all
And that's really coming back to bite them
It's tough, it's tough man
Like we've we've said all year
We've said all year
Go out get yourself
Another big body
Go out and get yourself somebody else
That will make sure that you are not getting dominated
On the boards
and instead they opted to go get a Josh Giddy replacement,
which is fair, right?
Like, if that's going to be the movie,
you want to roll with Chatt and Big Jalen Williams,
okay, because we've seen how Giddy has performed.
But when that replacement is Gordon Hayward
and he's worse than Josh Giddy,
that's the problem.
When your main in-season acquisition
is worse than the guy you were trying to replace with him.
If there's one move that Mark Dagnol can do
to get back in this series,
it is remove all white boys from the rotation
that aren't named Chet Holmgren.
These guys suck.
Josh Giddy has been
obviously a big weakness for them.
They've been losing his minutes consistently.
He's only been playing 13 minutes a game.
No, Mark Dog not knows this
and has limited his minutes.
Gordon Hayward only played three minutes
his last game because he has yet to score
a single point in this series.
He's played 48 minutes with zero points.
Literal cardio.
He is literally ineffective in every way
just out there collecting a paycheck,
quiet quitting.
No more white boys, Mark Dagnall.
You have one in Chet.
You've hit your quota.
No more.
No more minutes.
It's Chet and Mark Dagnall.
Those are the two white boys who are allowed to be within five feet of the court.
Everybody else stay in the locker room.
We'll talk to you guys after the game.
But, no, man.
Okay, so I think that they win tonight.
I think that they do even up this series.
I'd be very shocked if Dallas went up 3-1.
Just because these games also, for,
As bad as Giddy has been for as many issues that the Thunder have had,
they've been right there for the taking.
They've been, you know what I'm saying?
Like, they are one or two plays down the stretch of games to, you know,
away from winning these games being up to one instead of being down to one.
And it was a...
None, no.
I thought my mom was falling asleep again.
But, like, one of the key plays from game three, like the...
It was either game through a game two.
I can't remember.
But Luca had a steal at half court.
And like the Thunder were cutting it back down to four and could it, you know,
could have tied the game, could have made it a one possession game.
And Luca is making key plays on defense.
And that's also another thing that we've talked about,
where if he's going to step up and not be a complete cone and give you something
and now you're playing five on five defense rather than four on five defense,
that's also a huge plus for the map.
So there's that aspect of it, but I do think.
okay see we'll be able to shoot better
number one three point shooting team in the regular season
have haven't been that with the last two games
I think they can get back to that and win tonight
yeah again series is too close to call yet we still
many things could change I still think it's going seven
but you're definitely feeling good if you're a mass fan
because they're taking the advantage early
which is very important in a series that's going to be this close
yeah we still haven't
something that's like encouraging if you're a mass fan
also is like we haven't seen the
Kyrie game just yet
he put up
20 points once another game he was like two for seven from the field didn't play well but
i believe the math still won through all the other little things that he was doing he's been
playing literally the best basketball of his career never seen the version of kairi that's that's
been this like more this well-rounded and so like knowing that knowing kairi irving's tendencies
and like he's just bound to explore for 35 40 it might happen soon and if i'm a dallas mavix
fan i see his game so far he's been okay throughout this or
good throughout the series but we all know he has another
not to take it to you yeah um yeah we'll see
tonight will be a big deciding factor for this series if the thunder come back
and win still anybody series the masgoe 3-1 they're cooked
are they donations real quick yes if the mazgoe 3-1 that means the thunder
are cooked I think it's for sure over I think I don't think the thunder are
coming back down 3-1 now I trust him we'll see shout to p. Krispy for
donating $20 he's the first chance I got to catch the live
Love the pod and the Tatum hate is blasphemous.
It's got a selfish fan on this.
It's not hate.
It's just a question.
That's it.
Just me noticing.
That's all.
Exactly.
Shout out to JJ Watt for tipping $3.
Appreciate you.
Shout to Taney G for tipping $5.
Is it happy to stop by and loving the work?
Two things.
Y'all got to do some shorts of wavelength.
Two, hot take.
Luca will be the hardened of this era.
MVP's but no rings.
Tough.
No rings.
It's tough, man.
Bold statement.
And shout to Carlos.
tipping one dollar y'all i say y'all are currently cooking mo in the chat right now i'm seeing tuck
mo in all this stuff he's tweaking off the melatonin cooking mo has been a running theme on twitter
for the past few days if you guys haven't noticed yes and uh it started really it started like
maybe two three weeks ago now when a member of td3 whose name will not be mentioned because he's
currently under suspension went ahead and leaked a picture from a photo shoot that we had back in december
took a bad picture of me when I was like halfway blinking or whatever posted it okay cool found
the rat in the in the camp and he has been suspended from all td3 activities folks went from
just posting a picture then playing tic-tac toe on my forehead listen i know i know look listen
i'm a man of honesty even honest with myself my forehead isn't the smallest of the world but it's
not as fucking crazy as y'all make it see so i want to make it you all want to make it crazy do tic-tac-toe
congratulations. What's been done over the last 17 hours has been ridiculous. I've had folks
go ahead and print out. That's a lot of space. I'm not going to lie to you, but it's not that
crazy. This is a leap. This is elite, by the way. Two people did this. I reached with the
first one, shout at him. Then two for two for one came out and did this an incredibly high quality.
He colored graded and everything. This is amazing. We get it. You make great videos two for one.
congratulations.
This is hilarious.
Just, damn.
I know.
I know.
But after that, it got more and more outrageous because.
Somebody praying for me.
Someone went ahead, two things.
Someone went ahead and printed out a picture of that picture right there and put it above
their bed.
Brother, where is your father?
Something else that someone did.
they went ahead
he's in the chat right now
shout out goat
he's in their chat right
I see him
he's laughing
yeah go
bring your dad on the chat
so I can tell him
what the fuck
you'd be doing
and how you used
to tell him
your free time
because that's crazy
shout out
look at goat
look at this guy
I love you go
this is amazing
there's a fucking
picture
he drew a picture
of me
Isaac and Donovan
Isaac's on my shoulder
like the fucking
devil and angel
oh that's somebody else
we get to that
this guy put
the printout
of the damn thing
over his bed
he's going to sleep
tonight with the mojo
noggin looking over him wishing him sweet dreams
incredible
we got some cardinals memorability around
around here guys pop from st louis
saint louis legend mohammed cocker
it's him in sexy red
crazy hell
he was sexy red
and listen somebody drew me
after that and they put
mo's forehead as big at the top
What, this drawing is hilarious
He just threw this on there
Mo's forehead is big
That is a crazy
You're getting cooked
Sprinkle it in
And then after that
Somebody responded this morning
By drawing all three of us
That is crazy
First and foremost
My forehead looks like
Accurate
You guys ever seen
No
You guys ever seen
Hey Arnold
A black friend
Like, if you ever seen, if you ever curious what his head looks like, he has all that like a weird ass throat, that's what it is. Shade. I look like a pinky. That's what I look like. All right. I just like playing devil in show. He's the devil on my shoulder or whatever. And Donovan looks like he just learned English yesterday. I don't know why the fuck. They made him look like a caricature of a certain race of people that is incredibly racist. I won't say which one. But I look crazy.
you all need to do better things of your time oh my god donovan looks wild don't even
look straight dominican why didn't he had the elkiers
bapie i just see it i literally just went and got my hair cut yesterday or two days ago
and they made his beard like this crispy ass lineup like it's the spray like he just has
his chin strap of fucking duct tape you know it is you're straight Puerto rican
got hit with that spice ball
you know what I'm saying
and Mo
I don't even know
to start with this
just know you're racist as fuck
dude look at the nose
I didn't even think about that
it's a big little light bulb
yeah
and look at the hat
looks like I have a fucking pan on my head
like what the fuck
it's a pot on your head
we're making mac and cheese
with your head
like this is your
ridiculous, bro. It's just bent on all angles. Oh, my God. You just look crazy. My, the little me they drew is like scary looking. Like, it's nightmare people. Just a grimmling. Yeah, just like a devil on my shoulder telling me to make all the wrong decisions in life. It's like, yeah, whoever drew this, like, I'm going to tap in with you, get you start. I'm going to start up some like after school activities or whatever it is with you. Like, you can do much better with your time on your hands for sure. Yonis Zilla.
Yeah, we need to get you in a program somewhere.
We need to get you some help.
Absolutely.
Putting a picture above your bed is like nut shit.
Shut our gut, man.
I feel like there is one other I'm forgetting, but I guess not.
Oh, yeah.
So I said, I remember you was conflicted.
Me's using your influence.
Sometimes I did the same.
Abusing my power full of resentment.
Resentment I turned into a deep depression.
Found myself screaming in a hotel room.
I didn't want to self-destruct.
with the evils of Lucy
was all around me
Ah
loving you was complicated
So I went looking for answers
That's what I probably responded
That was one of the best
The evils of Lucy was all around me
That was one of the best
They don't even do that again
What's that?
Do the ah again.
Ah!
Ah!
Ah!
Top five of hip-hop album of all time.
Don't forget it.
Top one.
Don't you can watch your fucking mouth.
Don't get it twisted.
Top one.
That's hilarious, rough.
What a stream.
Next week's debated the other day.
Oh, no, I'm going to win.
Just know I'm in passion.
You just want him more.
Also, one other thing before we get out of here, these little kids made this video, shout
to them, and they were talking about SGA and Rob, the MVP, and this one kid on the right
was hating on Yokic, and he said, he built like a minivan.
He's driving down the 405.
The 405 is a highway in Los Angeles.
This little kid right here cooked Yokish.
That was shit was hilarious.
Just because he's big doesn't mean he's good.
He's a minivan, bro.
He's driving down the 405.
Bro, this would have been us
If we were seven years old
And we all lived in the same city
For sure
This is exactly what I was doing
This little kid making videos
But making YouTube videos
Since I was like 12
This is young me
Yeah
There we go man
That's the end of the stream
I don't even know
To sign off
Shout out Mose for Ed
We'll see y'all next time
Activities and get a job
Thank you.