The Deep 3 Podcast - Reacting To Every NBA Playoff Series, The Draft Lottery, & More! |TD3 Live

Episode Date: May 13, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 As you guys see by the title, I let everybody come in right now. We're going to be doing it the usual, right? We're going to react to every single playoff series. And we have a special thing to talk about later, which we'll save for a little bit. Draft lottery just happened. As you guys know, somebody in here had some stakes in the game, had some interesting outcomes for their team. We'll wait for people to come in before we really talk about that. And somehow didn't care at all at the same time, which is crazy.
Starting point is 00:00:30 We'll talk about it later. Someone said where the Australian's at. That's so random. Someone said Mo's getting caught in 4K on Twitter with him, eighth grade picks. You want to read that comment out so much, bro. And you're not helping it either. Oh, we're going to cover that. We're going to cover that like it's a news story.
Starting point is 00:00:50 But we got two quick early donations. Shout out to Bundow for tipping $5. He said, remember when you guys did a mock draft and Atlanta got seven or eighth, Moe was on a cry his balls out calling the Hawks Mid and shit Now the motherfuckers landed one This is unbelievable Hey, we'll talk about it plenty We'll get both thoughts pretty soon once we get more people in here
Starting point is 00:01:08 Oh my goodness bro JRM 37 tip $3.33 He said yo Isaac What is the fabled 2V2 going to happen And how can I get tickets Listen no tickets will be sold This will be having behind closed doors In a closed gym
Starting point is 00:01:23 No paparazzi available Later this summer though We have a date planned For a based around time we'll already be together in a certain city Should be good maybe we should go ahead and put it behind a paywall Paying we could do that Let's get straight into these news stories. Let's let's start it. We got a few hundred people you guys in here Let's get into it
Starting point is 00:01:47 First new story of the day. Let's see what you would you cook up for us in this doc mo The Detroit Pissants have narrowed their list of viable candidates to hire as a new president of basketball operations And you put it in the dock. They're trying to hire the T. Wool's president. Interesting. How do you feel? It's very embarrassing if you're a Detroit Pistons fan, you know? What?
Starting point is 00:02:11 They completely, first and foremost, like, lottery reasons, of course. But on top of that, seeing the guy who's at the top of the NBA right now and all of his work is being noticed and he's getting that congratulations for just even competing with the Denver Nuggets at this level to, like, leak this out right now in the midst of the playoffs is embarrassing as hell why for the pistons for the pistons absolutely yeah yeah i mean listen everybody knows right their poverty franchise at this point in time they can't get anybody to have meetings with them i don't i don't know how like as bad as they are they haven't had a number one overall pick since kade and
Starting point is 00:02:54 they should have been at least in like the top three over the last couple of years And Adam Serber's like, listen, you guys are going to have to get better to get some of this, you know, lottery look. Like, he's like, I'm not putting these ping pong balls in the machine for you guys if you, if you don't try and start looking like a serious franchise. So, dude, they got the fifth pick three years in a row. You know how hilarious that is? It's so tough. You know how downtrod now would be if I was a Pistons fan to go Jaden Ivy, Asar Thompson, and now whoever they didn't get in fifth pick when there's so many great players at the top after being so pitiful for so long? I would be broken.
Starting point is 00:03:30 This year's the only year, though. But this year is the only year where you can kind of be like, all right, like I guess it's fine. Like if you were the number one pick when like last year, last year was tough because you should have had Wembe. Didn't work, you know, work out that way. If you were in a draft where like Zion was there and it didn't work out, like that, that sucks.
Starting point is 00:03:51 But this is a very open draft in terms of who people think is going to be great. So you're going to be okay. Yeah, maybe not last night, not even last night because it happened like 3 p.m. 3 p.m. yesterday was what the 82 season game was. They broke records. They were historic pieces of ass last year, bro, or this past season, you know. And for them to go ahead and to get the fifth overall pick after having to watch James Wiseman minutes consistently.
Starting point is 00:04:22 And then Marvin Bagleyman's who's like actually a good player, was he going to get traded. So just like all this disarray. and all that just for it to for you to get the fifth overall pick and get surpassed by the Houston Rockets and the Atlanta Hawks it's like a shot to the chest and it's like all right
Starting point is 00:04:39 we can't rely on being ass anymore we got to do this like we actually have to use our ranks this time alright let's look at this entire draft lottery let's get straight to it draft lottery happened this is the official lottery we're looking at Atlanta Hawks
Starting point is 00:04:53 jumped to number one Washington to oh my God say it one more time for me please no Washington number two yes number one okay there we go
Starting point is 00:05:06 Houston number three also moved up San Antonio 4 Detroit 5 tough Charlotte 6 Portland 7 San Antonio 8 they get two in the top 10 that's interesting Memphis dropped to 9 and then all the guys at the bottom
Starting point is 00:05:18 what you'd expect to be at the bottom what are y'all's main takeaways what are your thoughts well go ahead go ahead just go just go just go i mean what can i say this organization was borderline on the fringes to being like buried six feet deep we were we have been historically mid for the entirety of our fucking organization what can i say but specifically
Starting point is 00:05:43 during this try young era seeing how we failed him year after year after year and we're in our like third iteration of this atlanta hawks team i ain't go lie to you adam silver saw What's been going on? He's been seeing the tweets. Trey Young saying, oh, we should have had, like, the number one ping pong balls last year or whatever it was. He gifted us because he knows that we have a bunch of, you know, like, there's an epitism going on in the front office, and we need help. Every single year there has to, I believe the NBA lottery is rigged.
Starting point is 00:06:14 Every single year, Adam Silver has to be like, here, dams that you can't do it. I'll do it for you. Here's a pathway, a direction, some gems for you to unlock and give yourself a ton of, of avenues to be successful and that's what he just gave us we got we got gifted one of the better one of the best defensive prospects probably the best defensive prospect in this draft class and obviously this is what we're known for he immediately helps aid that and on top of that too the whole tray young thing whether or not we want to trade him hogwash in my opinion but even if that was to actually happen we would be in a better real quick moh
Starting point is 00:06:51 hawks got gifted Alex R no we just got gifted we just got gifted we just got gifted we just got gifted $100 by Philly Loving Ginger One of one of my most consistent donors came in with the 100 bomb. Shout out you, man. We've got a lot more donations to get to we're going to get to once we've got right up to the segment. Shout out Philly Loving Ginger.
Starting point is 00:07:08 Oh my gosh. Thank you, Philly Loving, Jr. You just made my day way much even better. Yeah, so the Hawks got blessed in the worst draft class to possibly get blessed in that use all the draft luck
Starting point is 00:07:18 in the worst year possible. But it's cool. It's interesting. Shut the hell, man. Get out of here. This means a lot. You're just, you're just, you guys don't got shit.
Starting point is 00:07:27 You're fucking begging a 40-year-old man to come back to your team so you get your ass, bounce out of the second round. You ain't on shit. And I can't say none to you, Donovan. I respect the New York Knicks now. And we'll get to them. We'll get to them. It's not looking good for him either.
Starting point is 00:07:39 Don't worry about that. But first of all, it can't even mean that much because Moe tweeted out, Moe tweeted, oh my God, the Hawks are in the top five. And then didn't say anything for the next three hours. And so then we're texting Mo, right? we're texting in the group chat like oh my gosh the hawks got the number one pick don't get a response until like after the next game and then i just like don't tell me you were you were sleeping and mo takes right back sorry guys i just woke up obviously it wasn't it wasn't important enough for you
Starting point is 00:08:14 to stay up five more minutes you couldn't last one more commercial break to find out if the hawks actually got the number one pick you knocked out we didn't get you to a doctor's office you will sleep through anything this is not normal listen listen i can't believe i slept through the most important time of my organization's history i can't believe it but something i will say is that i did manifest this i went ahead and i dropped the meme of lebron looking hell and mysterious i was like yo the hogs were sliding into the top five man it's playing with crystals out of here i had a meeting with clutch sports actually i can't say too much because you know they're all around you never know but it happened and i manifested this
Starting point is 00:08:53 And you guys are just mad, jealous and you don't have Alex on your team I'm okay Are you sure you're okay? Yeah, I am So we get to the rest Obviously, the Hawksbury I plain talk about
Starting point is 00:09:08 Like most said earlier They got Trey Young Who's possibly going to get traded If they don't trade him They can trade Dejante Bring in Alex Tsar Or whoever else they decide You know, it's a wide open draft
Starting point is 00:09:17 Doesn't got to be Sarr A lot of avenues for them now To do interesting stuff and have a multitude of options depending on how they evaluate different people on the team and who they can bring in through the draft. What do you guys think about the rest of this order, though?
Starting point is 00:09:30 Like the Wizards get number two just feels like quintessential wizards, right? Like you're garbage and you get in a draft that is one elite guy and a bunch of whatever, of course they don't get the elite guy that just feels quintessential wizard. Yeah, I, you hate to see it for them.
Starting point is 00:09:44 You really do. But like, honestly, whether they had one or two, they're going to mess up the pick anyways. Like, I have very little faith that they're going to be able to develop whoever they draft. So that's fine. Houston, listen, winning from that trade. Shout to y'all, right? Because the Thunder, once again, have multiple picks in the first round.
Starting point is 00:10:03 It doesn't matter for the Rockets. They have the best pick out of all of that. They get the third. And San Antonio, two top ten picks to help out Wemby next year. Oh, yeah. Changes are on the way. Changes are on the way. This draft doesn't have the Palo Bencaros, the victim women, Yama, Zions.
Starting point is 00:10:20 nobody at the top that's like I'm gonna take over the league one day but there's a lot of good players right there's a lot of good role players that can really help teams and build around teams that already have their main guy in place that's precisely what the spurs need
Starting point is 00:10:31 right they're gonna get a second star eventually every team like this does every team makes their KP trade like the difference for Luca their whatever trade for who you want to put next year to second guy they need to in the small amount of time
Starting point is 00:10:43 they have left where they can be guys that draft up high before Wembe makes them too good they gotta fill out that young core and have supporting pieces around him they're under contract for a long time time two top 10 picks is a perfect way to do that because I don't think they're ever going to be drafting the top 10 again for quite a while exactly yeah Trey young winby two top 10 picks we're cooking at this point right we're doing we're doing something I like someone in the chat
Starting point is 00:11:04 just said that mo looks like Michael Pennix Jr that's hilarious I see where he's coming from that's hilariously racist Isaac he just grouped in with whim just now I look nothing like him it's it's only the fact that he's wearing a du rag right yeah that's what it is it's probably is that actually no loving it's okay so you don't look like him but i see where they're coming from i see what they're coming from i see what at first glance they said that like it's not i'm not gonna say i'm not gonna say it we've seen much worse lookalikes in this chat this isn't this isn't we're close to the worst one you've got i'm not i'm not gonna say i'm gonna text it to y'all you just looks like a regular dude so you're a regular dude you look like a regular dude too
Starting point is 00:11:49 I don't have to eat this yeah man outside of the outside of the Spurs having a top 10 pick the Grizzies spot of 9 which you know
Starting point is 00:11:57 they could have been blessed with a crazy high pick and like really dissidently nuts but 9 is still a good spot for them especially because they need a big I don't know I don't know if you text me
Starting point is 00:12:08 but I don't even know what that means I don't even know what that means back to the stream everyone's like what's going on here I'm sorry. The Hornets and Blazers being a purgatory again is hilarious. That's also pretty funny. Y'all need to relax.
Starting point is 00:12:29 Oh, shit. Oh, man. Not as good. We move on. Bronny James is staying in the draft. If y'all want to focus up real quick. Yeah. Good for him.
Starting point is 00:12:41 He's not going back to school. How do y'all feel? Great news. I, back when it was like, you know, the news unfolded when everyone heard, he was going to go ahead and enter the transfer portal and enter his name in the NBA draft, but also, you know, listen to other schools or whatever. I always felt like it's just a smarter decision, like nine times out of 10, especially when you're such a clouded name like Brani to just go ahead and join the NBA as soon as possible. Because injuries happen, you never fucking know. You just want to maximize on what you, your talents as soon as possible. But why the fuck wait to make millions of dollars and change the rest of your life, you know?
Starting point is 00:13:19 And so him doing this is smooth. It's smart, especially when like some idiotic team is going to be like, I got to go get it now. Like, what if the Landhawks are like, fuck it? Brunny James Jr. So it's just so they can try to pry away LeBron from fucking Lakers. Like this, some team is going to bite. And it's smart for Bronny's his leverage. And listen, this is the weakest draft class.
Starting point is 00:13:38 And some people think it's the weakest draft class in 25 years. So if he goes back to school, even if he gets better, what is he going to, like, he's not going to go. higher next year probably because this is a week of class, unless he has a great year, you never know. But like GMs are smart, most of them, and they know if they look at him and they feel like he has potential, I can craft him and get something out of him as a role player,
Starting point is 00:13:58 they're going to think that this year or next year. It doesn't make a difference. If somebody thinks he's going to be the next Peyton Watson, they're already going to think that. So going back, if you don't really feel like you're going to make some huge jump, it can make sense to just get it over with. And again, one thing that everybody has to understand where Bronny
Starting point is 00:14:13 is that like, obviously last year, didn't look great, he had a heart attack at the beginning of the season. Like, if you think, if you think that Brony is talented, every, like, before his injury, everyone's like, look, he may not be this, like, crazy superstar, but he's a very smart player. He's a good defender. He knows how to make the right passes. If you think that he has those types of instincts, then you bring him into your, onto your team,
Starting point is 00:14:39 and you say, okay, a year after your injury, you can start getting back up to basketball speed and now you have that type of like you know good winning role player type of archetype on your team and low key can be a steal if you think that he already has those those talents like you know within himself so i don't think it's a bad thing for for brownie to come out i think a lot of teams like mo said it's going to be another like shabazz napier situation where it seems like it might be you know they might be they might be looking to draft brony for the outside chance that lebron goes and signs with them yeah yeah as napier is a dude who lebron was like yo i really like this dude's game before he i think it was like during the 2013 for agency or 2014 for agency and then
Starting point is 00:15:24 the miami he drafted him and he left yukon legend yeah let me get some more donations real quick shout to matthew for tiffin ten dollars he said the t3 arms race amps up we got y'all guessing eyes mouths hairlines voices pretty soon y'all oh my god i'm not going to finish that i didn't know what he was going to say it's not as raunchy it could have been but it was raunchy thanks for the ten dollars matthew nick took one dollar he said mo i'm hiding under your bed waiting to touch your toes you shout out to milkshake for donating one dollar and 26 cents He's a big fan from the UK Going to finally get to see NBA players live
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Starting point is 00:17:13 Oh, shout out to Jamie Edwards tipping $25. He said, just want to say shout out to y'all and much love from Perth, Australia. Appreciate it, man. Australia, nice. Shout out, yo. Mr. Worldwide. Roddy James measured at 6'1.5 without shoes, weighs 210, but a 6-7 wingspan. How does that impact your...
Starting point is 00:17:33 You know, the whole vision of him is his defensive guard who can kind of be an Aview, Bradley, Pat Bev type. It's not very tall. You know, he's listed at 6'4 in college. He's not that. I mean, that's fine. It's like, if your wing span is six inches longer than your actual height, like, you're going to, yeah, yeah, you're going to be able to play above your position. And, like, I don't think anybody has ever seen Ronnie and been like, oh, yeah, he's going to be able to guard one through four, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:59 If he can just have the skills, be able to guard, you know, ones and twos, maybe, right, handle a switch onto a three and handle some wings from time to time, he's going to be okay. It's going to be fine. I'm very curious to see if he performs, like, crazy at the combine and his, like, his vert off the charts, his speed is high. Like, I want to see those numbers and then see how people react to that. Because that happens in every job class with somebody's, you know, somebody's number, somebody's measurables go crazy. And now everyone starts fiending over them. And they're like, oh, my gosh, if we could just get him into our building.
Starting point is 00:18:39 So I'm ready to see that. Yeah, he's interesting. Obviously, people, today on Twitter has been the day to dunk on Bronny. And people are just being very negative being, oh, he's nepotism, all this shit. He shouldn't be a top 60 pick, all this shit. He's interesting. You know, he's not going to be a lottery pick. There's no reason to overreact and, like, trash on the guy.
Starting point is 00:18:56 We'll see what we can do. because obviously there's some traits there that people have pointed out for a long time will be interesting to see if you finds the right fit that can really get the best out of them. 100% agree. On to the next story, Brandon Ingram is expected
Starting point is 00:19:08 to be the most likely Pelican to be traded at this offseason. Some people say it is an inevitability. I feel like we've been saying this for a long time. I was about to say, surprise, surprise. If you've been listening to us for, what, two years, right? We've been saying this, honestly, since we started the podcast that somebody has to go and it's probably going to be brandon ingram just because the the ceiling on zion is so high nobody's going to trade for c j mcclum and give you
Starting point is 00:19:37 crazy assets back and brandon ingram is a nice mixture of that and he just doesn't fit so you're going to have the ball in zion's hands you're going to go get some more complimentary pieces and when you have herb jones and tray murphy those are going to be the wings that you start so brandon ingram listen get get your realtor on the phone i know you have i know you have the break go get you yourself a nice spot you're gonna be okay it's gonna be all good yeah man it's what do you guys want to see trade for him because i feel like branding him stock is an all-time low and i'm looking at the chat right now people are saying get out of here good riddens get him out of here like people are sick of branding him on this team they want him to be moved i don't know if anybody is jumping for joy to
Starting point is 00:20:14 try to get them on their team i know some cabs fans have some interest maybe i think warriors fans i some people say that too yeah i see someone in the chat saying the philadelphia 76ers and that's actually like i kind of like that a lot considering like the pacing how different in a pace of speed he'll bring to Tyrese Maxi and a jollum be led offense. But that makes sense too. Of course, we've been talking about the Cleveland Cavaliers for the longest just because we've been hoping to see the cast fail as well. But Brandon Ingram was like the type of player to give your team a higher ceiling.
Starting point is 00:20:44 But at the same time, like, he, I don't see him as like a world changer necessarily. You know? Yeah, chat, spam, who you guys want to see him on. Let me know what team you guys think would make sense. I saw someone say the Sixers. I like that. Like you said, Moe, I like the Sixers. I think that makes sense.
Starting point is 00:21:00 They need some scoring punch, what Tobias should have gotten them. You know, people will have, like, theorized, oh, what did Jimmy Butler goes back? Because there's rumored to be some friction around his contract. Hmm. But in terms of a big wing who can score in an inside-out way, like, it's a similar type of role for a team.
Starting point is 00:21:20 I can see that fit. Now, something I will say is that, We talked about the NBA draft lottery, whatever, cool. I think the Houston Rockets have a top three pick, and they're just in a position to where, like, they have so much young talent already, and having too much can be a bad thing at times. So many wings, they already have their bigs of the future,
Starting point is 00:21:41 guards future and shit like that, too. So what if they would entertain trading away this third pick to the New World Spockings? I don't really think so. I think that would be in the stick of my opinion. I think the Pelicans do that in a heartbeat. Yeah, they would. I mean, because if you can get the number three overall pick for Brandon Ingram,
Starting point is 00:22:04 who we all agree, he's a good player. But even in a subpar draft, top one, top, like your first three picks, those are still kind of guys that you think can come in and be franchise cornerstones. And I don't think Brandon Ingram is that. He's, again, still really good. it's not one of the guys that you would want to be like one of the two best players on your team if you're trying to build like a championship roster so sadly he feels like a Washington wizard he feels like he feels like he feels like a guy that does not really have
Starting point is 00:22:41 a place like a legitimate home and Washington is going to go and they're going to try and maybe you know be impatient they took a risk on on Jordan pool didn't really work out you could pair Brandon Ingram with Kuzma and Poole get yourself a mid-three while you're rebuilding that's what it feels like to me right now gross someone said Indiana I'm seeing a lot of Mavs I think it might just be one guy sparing Mavs
Starting point is 00:23:05 I don't know about that one Indiana is somewhat interesting yeah Indiana is interesting but there may be a lot of like too much intersection between Pascal Seahakam and Brandon Ingram I don't really like that that much yeah yeah I don't know he's a very good player that can definitely help a team but he's
Starting point is 00:23:22 needs to be in the right fit for him and it's not that he's like a hard player to get the best of him you know like he can be fined a lot of places for him to be really great it has to make a very specific fit i think same vibes as de marta rosen is what i hear i mean kind of kind yeah i mean he can shoot better than bar de rosen for sure but in terms of the way he plays the ball in his hands i think it's sort of similar yeah i can see that okay next story austin rivers this i'm quoting awesome rivers here you know there's a got to be something good. He said, I can take 30 players right now in the NBA and throw them in NFL. You cannot take 30 NFL players and put them in the NBA. I mean, he's right.
Starting point is 00:24:04 He's right in spirit. I don't know if there's 30 guys that you can put in the NFL, but in terms of like an NBA player being able to transition to the NFL easier than vice versa, that statement is correct. You know, like the dominant receivers in the NFL, right even the big like red zone threats all them like Julio Jones hold on the the audio is going crazy somebody said it's something started lagging like crazy and skipping around I don't know what to do about that chat let me let me know if it stops because I don't know how to fix that apparently stream labs is going crazy I don't think they can hear us that's awful huh yeah I don't know what do I do about
Starting point is 00:24:44 this we see y'all you all refresh the stream you all refresh I think it's fine now We were saying it's fine, no. Yeah, I thought so. Okay, go ahead. What were you saying, Donovan? About the wide receivers? I don't think they couldn't hear any of that. So go ahead and restart that.
Starting point is 00:24:58 I was saying that when you think about even like the most dominant wide receivers in the NFL, like you think about a Randy Moss, A.J. Brown, or Julio Jones. Those guys are 6-3-6-4, right? That's a two-guard. That's a two-guard in the NBA. If you take a three, like if you take a Paul George who's 6-7, he's boxing everybody out, right? If you take all these guys who are right there, they are very dominant. red zone threats at minimum.
Starting point is 00:25:25 So, yeah, that transfers. What's your thoughts on this, Mo? I've had this debate a lot with friends and college. I don't want to hear your first thoughts. I mean, I'm not a huge football guy, but in general, I agree because I feel like the skill set in basketball is more, it can be duplicated more into other sports. Meanwhile, football is like 50%, maybe even more just like physical traits,
Starting point is 00:25:50 how fast, strong you are. how high you can jump and shit like that and of course that stuff is important in basketball but it's not as important compared to football and i think there's certain skills in basketball that just like is made for an elite football player like the ability to have like accuracy passing wise and just overall like vision on the field and shit like that what are your thoughts you you you play football over here and you i don't think either could do either i feel like is a meaningless conversation. NBA players aren't physical enough to survive getting hit by strong safeties if they put wide receivers. NFL players are some muscle-bound
Starting point is 00:26:27 motherfuckers that aren't skilled enough to run up down the court and be able to hang. I feel like, I don't know, you got to pick one that can do it better. I don't know what's how to fall on, but I feel like both would struggle a lot more than they think. For sure. Yeah, yeah, for sure. But like, Anthony Edwards could go and like, if you give, I truly believe, if you gave Anthony Edwards a summer, he could play, he could play some football. I don't know, do physicality. NFL is fast as fuck.
Starting point is 00:26:53 That type of game speed you have to have experience like high level college to be used to to even make that transition. They are fast and strong as hell. Like those hits are different. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:27:03 NBA weight room is different than NFL weight room. Even the most strike. Anthony Edwards is swole. It's still like put him next to Julio Jones. He's going to look real normal. That's okay. You give him a summer.
Starting point is 00:27:13 I'm not saying he could do it tomorrow. Right? But like, they like, their skills do transfer more and it's and you've seen so many instances of all these football players that used to be basketball players and then people were like all right like come over try you know try football that doesn't happen in in the NBA you don't have former strong safeties like yeah I was you know I was Ed Reed
Starting point is 00:27:37 in high school but I just decided but I just decided to play basketball like if you if they could play basketball they would but they're just not they're yeah they're just not built the same And then also not as skilled. Like that's a crazy amount of skill level to be in the NBA. Yeah. There's in general, there's like a bin-running meme for years, as long as I've probably been alive. If we're like the second you see,
Starting point is 00:28:00 you can tell when a motherfucker plays football in like a pickup basketball game because there's just OD physical. You know, I run his ass, dumb, yeah, throwing shoulders and also their shit, you know? They just lack those important, minute, nuance skills, you know? Yeah. Interesting conversation.
Starting point is 00:28:17 Next door we got back to basketball The Chicago Bulls are still looking to compete next season And aim to re-sign DeMar de Rosen I don't want to do it. These motherfuckers love mid We're talking about it so long They're addicted to the mid grind They like Chris Paul got addicted to going to the finals They got addicted to going to the playing
Starting point is 00:28:33 And they have the means to make it every single time So they refuse to stop It is disgusting What are they cooking? Nothing Nothing They are not cooking anything I can't talk about them
Starting point is 00:28:45 It bothers me whenever we talk about the Chicago Bulls what's left to say what's left to say Mo I don't even know why would I mean if I'm tomorrow Rosen you must be like happy as hell you know because this is like more free
Starting point is 00:29:02 money no expectations just go out ball dab up a couple kids high five takes some selfies as you go home you know so if you're tomorrow you should be happy as hell but for Chicago Bulls and Bulls fans is just like what are we doing here what's the goals
Starting point is 00:29:16 like what is the plan there is none you're just sitting down watching the opposing team play basketball anytime to enter your arena someone said send him to iraq that's right said and send him to wongdong send him to iraq oh my god he's saying we need more bodies down there what the hell kettie said i care too much about demar to be happy for him staying in this organization and that's the real shit i've ever heard from a bulls fan like for damar this is is just hilarious like he's just perpetually stuck in this bid organization if he wants to be there he's the one sign of the contract
Starting point is 00:29:52 so good for him fine but it's such a waste of time for all involved like if they're going to give him a huge money take it by all means tomorrow but like who also gives really speaking who else will give demard Rosen that time of money I don't think there's anyone else maybe the Pistons six cents why the fuck were the Pistons
Starting point is 00:30:08 while Demard Rosen eh I don't know there's no real team that's just like okay yeah we need him he's the missing piece no teams like that Maybe the Sixers, but 60 wouldn't be bad, actually, now I think about it. But still, that wouldn't be my number one option. Yeah, man, it's not great.
Starting point is 00:30:25 Now, I'm not looking up for the Bulls, but when is it ever, right? This is nothing new. Bulls are being Bulls, so be it. A bag is a bag. Last thing I have in this doc before we get to the playoff games. Which team are you taking? Team blue, team yellow, or team red? Look at these names on here.
Starting point is 00:30:43 Wait, zoom in, let me see this. I'm zooming in as I'm going. We got Yokich, Kobe. They put Kobe in a blue jersey. That's very hilarious way to get around this. We got Yokich, Kobe, and K.D., Ad, LeBron, and Steph, or Jordan, Hardin, and Joelle, Embed. My question to you guys, off-rip,
Starting point is 00:31:02 which team looks like they're the worst? Well, they had to give Michael Jordan the two frauds because he's two O.P. So that's the one immediately, I'm like, you got two weaklings here. Okay. Not really. Jordan's out immediately.
Starting point is 00:31:16 I don't know, he's not out of me He's not, it's in beat, I'm just kidding He's not out immediately They fit really well Yeah, exactly I think that team outside of like The yellow team there I don't know, all these teams fit really well
Starting point is 00:31:28 Okay question Is this for a three on three tournament Or to build your team around play five on five Three on three Yellow team's out Yellow teams out Yeah Why?
Starting point is 00:31:38 You can't because stuff is there And bucket It's gonna be ISO Three on three is a fucking ISO And all three of these players are gods in 5V5 but these aren't the guys you want in 3V3
Starting point is 00:31:50 Wow Okay I think team blue would win Jordan and KD are the best players here for 3v3 Is that fair I agree I agree yeah After that Kobe and Joel Mbiz
Starting point is 00:32:05 I don't know Yokic is Yokic He's not how he plays But I feel like if you like made him play in that situation He could cook just as much as Mbid But I agree And also if you are doing like like if you're doing yokech versus ad and mbid he's shown he can cook anthie davis yeah right
Starting point is 00:32:23 if need if need be he can give anthony davis 50 and so like that's that's fine the imbid part of it they're they're a wash imbid can't really guard yokitch and yokit can't guard imbid um but the big difference the big joker in three on three is hey we have the seven-foot version of michael jordan in Kevin Durant. Yeah. But James Hardin's also one the best isolation players of all time.
Starting point is 00:32:49 Like he's not exactly a sloucher. I'll take that match with him and Kobe. I don't know. I think 3V3 is like strictly, it's so strategic. And I feel like James Hardin and Joel Embed that red team just has like virtually no real weakness. And like I can pinpoint things about team blue.
Starting point is 00:33:09 Like Yolkits his defense mainly. Of course, like Hardin is going to be Cook to Goose against Club. Kobe and Katie, like fucking everyone else. But your center being bad on defense in a 3B3 setting is such, like, a damning thing to have. But not really, though, because you're not, like, you're not doing the traditional five-on-five, you know, full, full rotation. Like, it's a lot of space, but it's not, it's not the same as, like, an NBA game. So Yokes doesn't have to be running all over the court trying to help people.
Starting point is 00:33:40 He can kind of stay in a certain spot. and the same way that we kind of got Steph out of here because of the one-on-one, the weak link defensively for team red would be James Hardin. And so who is he, who is he guarding? Is he guarding Kobe or is he guarding KD? Because either way, probably going to get messed up.
Starting point is 00:33:59 I'm starting to pull. Chad, let us know what you think. I see you guys saying a lot of different things. Let's get this poll going. Right now, 85 votes in blue was running away with it. Jordan is really good. I don't know. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:34:11 He's quite the advantage here. pretty easy the best player here I know like people I think no it is
Starting point is 00:34:18 I think a lot of fans view like him and Kobe as a wash it's not it's not I mean
Starting point is 00:34:23 in a one-on-one setting yeah okay you know like yeah maybe Katie's a
Starting point is 00:34:31 difference Katie is KD over hardens probably the biggest advantage here I guess if you're going to
Starting point is 00:34:36 claim Kobe and Jordan is a wash it's let's say the bigs are even footing let's go team it as KD
Starting point is 00:34:41 I think that's You have three guys who all have the exact same package In Jordan, KD, and Kobe Yeah I'm in Team Blue it is I think I'm lean Team Blue, yeah I trust them more Team Blue is running away with it 60% vote right now in the chat
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Starting point is 00:35:24 That are going on right now Let's start in the Western Conference With the most exciting playoff series So far, I think pretty easily Denver Nuggets versus Minnesota Timberwolves Last time he came up here Last episode of the pod The T-Wels are up 2O
Starting point is 00:35:37 Coming off of The Single Most Dominating Defensive Performance I've ever fucking seen in game two. It was a legitimate masterclass without Rudy Colbert put on at the highest level of defense I've seen in my lifetime because I wasn't really around to watch 04 Pistons.
Starting point is 00:35:53 And we were all like, listen, this is the first time the Nuggets have had adversity, first time Yokic is back against the wall. How would you respond? They responded like the best team in the motherfucking world, came back, won two straight games, figured out a lot of stuff to help their offense look more like Nuggets offense who know in love.
Starting point is 00:36:07 How are you all currently feeling about this series now? wow we just got news that donovan mitchell's out for game four for the cleveland cat versus the boston solvers but anyways we'll touch on that later um yeah but we'll get to that this is wow well that series is over yeah exactly but that's a wrap gotcha no dares garland you're ready to speak new orleans have been saying it wow that is huge okay but back to this denver nugget series like you're saying and isaac the last thing that we saw i don't i think the last thing that we saw come back from like down being down to oh was the milwaukee bucks versus the uh phoenix suns in the finals if i'm correct and it's so hard to do so considering how bad the the minnesota timbles have been
Starting point is 00:37:02 offensively like anthony edwards has been for the most part spectacular but car anthony towns has had like wild ups and downs throughout the entirety of the uh playoffs you spotted it out i believe last stream or last episode isa you're like the teals are number one in offense you know everyone is hitting their shots and keel alexander was fucking on on since then last two games hasn't been on snowsry same old story applies to him as well last game he didn't perform as badly but he hasn't been the same nozary the first two games so if they can't get it together on offense and the guys are other every single player other than anthony Edwards, like, do their thing, then it's like, it might be cooked.
Starting point is 00:37:41 So someone said, why is Isaac Mewing? His motherfucker thinks he's Kelly Ubrae. That was their own job. But, um, yeah, you're right. The offensive rating thing was something I pointed out, and I was like, if they're going to be the best offense in the league on top of the best defense, they're not going to fucking lose games, clearly. That was, safe to say, that wasn't ever going to last, right?
Starting point is 00:38:01 They weren't going to be the best offensive team in the league. That's ridiculous. So we knew that would, that would level out a little bit. The question was how much. Can the defense still carry them? Because that was the biggest thing, right? The Nuggets were extremely uncomfortable, extremely out of rhythm in the first two games. The Nuggets are built on interior passing.
Starting point is 00:38:16 They're really a smash metal team. And the Timberwell was pretty much completely eliminated that interior threat. You couldn't throw a lot of to Aaron Gordon. Yolkish going to the post was incredibly cramped, incredibly crowded, hard to deal with. And the Nuggets made some good adjustments. They decided to play a little more spread out. Aaron Gordon was more on the perimeter instead of just in a dunker spot. Yokic attacked isolations one-on-one instead of being passed first.
Starting point is 00:38:36 Jamal Murray looks a lot. better, a lot healthier. He wasn't able to get just destroyed by the primary defense like he did in the first couple of games. It makes a big difference. And all in all, they made small adjustments that led them to be able to play Nuggets basketball more. And I think we're kind of seeing the way it probably should play out in the beginning.
Starting point is 00:38:50 I think the biggest adjustment that we've seen is we're witnessing how why in real time, why it's important to have multiple ball handlers on your team, who you're, who you're super comfortable with making decisions. Like, of course, Yokic, the main guy there outside of Yolki. that's Jamal Murray. And the guy that really makes things click and brings him all together is Aaron Gordon. That's why it's a part of reason why he's so valuable to this team. Getting Jamon worry off the ball and allowing him to just like run around and not have so
Starting point is 00:39:21 much eyes and attention towards him while he's been laboring through injuries. It's like huge in his game danger. Yeah. What do you think, Don't? Yeah. I mean, listen, this is what happens. Like when Jamal Murray plays like Jamal Murray, that is, that's the key, right? you can't you can't it's honestly as simple as that like i was kind of nervous for the nuggets
Starting point is 00:39:42 just because we haven't seen jemal murray play well consistently all playoffs long and the one game that he had that was crazy was the closeout game against the lakers and even then he was like 13 to 28 he took he took 28 shots to get 32 points and so it was a very very high volume day and we haven't seen the like efficient version of jama if he's going to be 11 of 21, 8 of 17, so shooting like that, rather than 3 of 18, 6 of 14, then everything looks different for Denver. And if that's
Starting point is 00:40:14 the case, then Denver might win this in 6. Because on top of that, you also got the regression from Carl Anthony Towns. Yep. 2020, Carlton's the Towns is back and better than ever, or worse than ever.
Starting point is 00:40:29 Good Lord. Yeah, he's up and down. And that was, I came out and praised his team and I was like, listen, good for them. They're looking like a championship caliber team. And the reason I said that, and I never said that in the past, was because I said I was dead wrong about Carl Anthony Towns. I gave them the profits out the season, but I didn't never pick them as a top two, three team in the league because I had serious concerns about what Kat and Gobert look like together in a playoff setting, because I think
Starting point is 00:40:51 Kat as a four is easier to expose than a lot of other team's key players. First six games to playoffs, I was dead wrong. He was bawling. He looked incredible. Last two games, not so much. It kind of looked like the things we had, you know, concerns with. And not to overreact the two games, because he can very much come back in the next game and look like he did in game one and two and win them some games to get them back in the series. But it's always something we've got to worry about. And we don't really have those worries with the Denver Nuggets. Their biggest issue of flopping was Jamal Murray being unhealthy.
Starting point is 00:41:20 He's back. Aaron Gordon is a gigantic X factor. We're going to get to the Dallas Maverick series. They've won two games because PJ Washington has turned into Clay Thompson. Aaron Gordon is the same type of X factor. Like I said, they put him in the perimeter in this game to really negate. some of the spacing issues they had with him in the dunker spot and you see where those reps
Starting point is 00:41:36 with him being the number one option under the line of magic you see where that comes back now because he has that ability to put the ball on the court and create so they can't just play off of him and ruin the spacing they're the complete team we thought they were yeah you're absolutely right dude throughout the first throughout the first what seven playoff games
Starting point is 00:41:56 so far for a car-in-a-town he's shot 58% from the three-point line that is ridiculous those are shooting splits that are just like unheard of and last night you know one for four is just not going to be good enough and five for 18 just as a whole is just not going to be good enough considering all the other ways that he can only affect the game at the brightest of levels you know like he's a rebounder can put his hands up distract shit or whatever but outside of that like he's not going to give you no ball handing he's not going to be like a force defensively like erin gordon can be at times and Like you said, Isaac, like Aaron Gordon being displaced early in his career through Atlanta Magic being their pile of ban caro before it was officially like before, you know, they went through their thing. Yeah. Like the amount of ways he can affect the game without even shooting the ball well is insane. And Carl Anthony Townsend needs to find ways to go ahead and fight the game and do positive things if it's not going to be falling. Can you do that?
Starting point is 00:42:55 I don't know because I don't know if it's, it's his player archetype to do that. Chad, who do you guys think is going to win? chat let me spam it up let me hear you guys thoughts you're hearing us you app about it who do you guys have because after two games it looked like timber wolves finally figured the shit out now the nuggets are the nuggets i don't know it's gonna be tough donovan how you feel about carla how you feel my anthony edwards don't i mean anthony edwards is still anthony edwards like he still is the the player that that we thought he was he was going to be and he's still you know playing great i just think that everything the supporting cast for both of these
Starting point is 00:43:26 teams really flipped over the last two games and especially game four where again you see if you give yokic his second star and Aaron Gordon to step up and you get two of those guys to rise and then on the opposite side Carl Anthony towns and Nas read now go from being elite role players and elite like second options to dropping down to where Gordon and Murray were that's how the entire series flips. And so over the next three games, is Carl Anthony Towns going to be in foul trouble, right? We know that he's, he's going to give you one super fouling game. Is he going to give you two, right? Is he going to take 15 shots, give you 13 points over the next three games? That's, that's going to be key. I don't think Aaron Gordon is going to be Clay Thompson. I don't
Starting point is 00:44:13 think he's going to be Steph Curry. But is the last game, all that Minnesota needed to see to and now they kind of have to respect him as a threat for the next three games, right? Like those things are going to be good. And I want to see what Mike Conley does over the last three games. He didn't have an amazing game. That's crazy timing.
Starting point is 00:44:32 Someone in the chat just said, you look like Mike Connolly. Crazy timing. Y'all are in the same wavelength. Both think about Mike Connolly. It's all good. He's key. He's critical.
Starting point is 00:44:41 And they need him to show up. And it's fine. He's a superstar. He's everything that we thought we were. So we're good. Yeah. After those first two games, I was on Twitter, and I was like, we talked about it, right? It looks like the 04 Pistons plus D-Wade.
Starting point is 00:44:56 I was like, I want to see this team make a finals run. Like, I love what I'm seeing. Like, this team is so likable. I'm like, I'm excited for the Timberwolves. I'm like, for the first time Minnesota basketball is moving me. And I'm like, do I want to see them prosper? Do I want to see a championship be hung in Minnesota? Wow, what character development?
Starting point is 00:45:14 I fucking lied. As soon as I see the Nuggets get back into the series, I was like, yes, fuck these puppies, fry them, get them, out of here. Like all my Yolka fandom came back and I realized that I was supporting them at a cope because I thought the nuggets were screwed. Now that I know they're not and I my true feelings came out, I am praying on their downfall. I want to see Minnesota losing a reverse swept so badly. This guy. Oh, you're disgusting. It's not really honest. Nasty. I'm happy you brought your honesty out because that will happen if someone like Zeta McDaniels in the last like five, six games, he's only made two, three, fourers.
Starting point is 00:45:50 No one's talking about that because of how stupendous his defense is. But you cannot be a starting small forward in the NBA and just like just make two, three-pointers throughout the last six games. He's right now he's currently going through one of the worst loves of the entire season, which just came at the right time. And then like we talked about early, like the Nikila Alexander Walker's of the world, he just can't put up six and two points in both of these pivotal games. You know, so hopefully I can't, can these guys? have like three straight bad games i hope not because there's so then this product is truly cooked and it sucks because like you we talked about a little bit like you asked donovan how he felt about anything edwards we didn't talk on him too much but this
Starting point is 00:46:33 motherfucker is attending ascending right in front of our eyes he dropped like what 44 45 last another something crazy like yeah i ain't a lie he's doing it he started he started the game and everyone's like everyone um over the weekend we've all kind of calm down off of like michael jordan comparisons and we've set it on is this Kobe right that was that was the next level because everybody started saying like okay we're going too far he's not Michael Jordan let him leave let let him you know let him breathe let him live and then it goes to one step down in Kobe so he is he's going to dominate and he's going to he's at the point where if he isn't scoring 28 to 32 points a night you're kind of shocked at this point in the playoffs because
Starting point is 00:47:16 I have a question for you what's up I think Isaac hasn't brought up on the screen. But how many players are you taking over Anthony Edwards right now? Exactly. Let's talk about it. I tweeted out yesterday. I said, if Yokit, Janice, and Bean, and Luca are the top four players in the league. And the next tier is Shea, Tatum, and the three old guys, being Curry, KD, and LeBron.
Starting point is 00:47:34 Whatever already want for all these people? Is Anthony Edwards in that second tier now? Because it doesn't feel crazy. It doesn't feel crazy at all. I think he's on the same level as Tatum and Shea. 100%. And you can make the argument that he's better than both of them. I'd slow down there, but I think he could be on equal footing.
Starting point is 00:47:51 I'm speeding the fuck up. I'm not even slowing down there. I'm saying he's better than both. No, these guys are first team all the NBA guys, for a reason. I think, I'm not to get too recancy bias. But is he first team all NBA level now? I think he is.
Starting point is 00:48:05 I think he's going to be in that running for going forward, like starting next year. I agree. If he can take what he's doing in these playoffs and add 10% of that to his regular season game, game he 100% can be in first team all NBA conversations yeah and previously I think we all ranked him as like 15 or 16 when we did our last player rankings which is he's no it was good I had him I had him lower I had him lower personally but yeah okay he made a leap he was like
Starting point is 00:48:34 right behind Donovan Mitchell for me I think had demit at 14 and him at like 15 or 16 now I we we all we've all said in recent weeks that we think and is the best shooting guard in elite we saw him play against Booker we saw them all in totality and we feel confident put picking him over Booker, I had Booker as a 10th best player in the league. So to me, at minimum, that makes Ant the 10th best player in the league or something around there. And that feels like the floor to me. He's at least in the 9-10 range.
Starting point is 00:48:59 Yeah. I agree. I think Ant is going to be, at the end of next season, Ant is going to be extremely high on a whole bunch of people's list. And with that, I want to take that, and we can take this to do two things, to transition
Starting point is 00:49:13 quickly into the Celtics Cavs series and into our debate of the day because I think that at the end of next year Jason Tatum is going to be closer to being a top 15 player
Starting point is 00:49:31 than a top 7. Why are we so reactionary much Jason Tatum, man? I can go. Oh my God. I think we're going to and dependent on like how you want to look at it in terms of are you building your team around them.
Starting point is 00:49:47 are you like are you taking him right now would you take him in a playoff series i think that there are i'm i'm going to list the names of guys and i think that he's going to be closer to 15 i hate that y'all make me defend jason tatum because i'm not even jason tatum but twitter and apparently you are everyone is so reactionary about this guy acting like he's a bum because other people are great i'm not saying bum i'm still saying top 15 not just you not just you top 15 is ridiculous this is jason tatum keep going back let's your names let's your names go ahead going into a playoff series next year
Starting point is 00:50:18 would you rather have these guys Luca and B Giannis Yokin Shea I think I think when you get to Shea is where it's a conversation I think him and Shay are pretty close LeBron That's fair I'm taking LeBron Everyone
Starting point is 00:50:32 He's just 41 next year I don't know I think I'd rather have Tatum Did you see what LeBron did so far in the postseason compared to what Tatum is done so far He had his first 30 point game last night Again he has some cold games I get it
Starting point is 00:50:49 we've seen Jason Tadden in the playoffs many times he is a great playoff player you said it in India in our previous episode Jason Tatum hasn't scored 30 since March he just scored it two days ago he broke the history two days ago
Starting point is 00:51:02 and it's about to be Memorial Day and he has one 30 point game and so there's that right so what did I say I said look and be Giannis Yoki Chei LeBron Steph I Sure.
Starting point is 00:51:17 I'll take, I'll take Steph. Anthony Edwards. I think I would take Anthony Edwards. Okay. I'll give you that one. That one's close. I'll just call it a draw, so I'm fine with you going Anthony Edwards. Now, this is where we get into team building area for me.
Starting point is 00:51:32 Okay. Right? Wemby. Sure. Oh, wow. Okay. What are you saying team building? Wendy.
Starting point is 00:51:41 Okay. Well, first you said taking a playoff series, and now you're saying team building. So which one is it? What are you judging? Listen, even at the end of next season, I think I would take one be in a playoff series. I have no doubt that anything he's going to do is going to, I doubt that he is going to have any type of fall off.
Starting point is 00:52:00 So I'll do that. John Morant. No, now you lost me. Jason Tatum is better than John Moran. I think at the end of next season, I think it might be a conversation. It's a conversation. Why is that?
Starting point is 00:52:13 Because you're assuming Jaws and they get better. And why are we assuming Tatum's, like, Tatum's not old? No, but I think that, I think that Tatum, and we've seen this over, like, the last couple years, and specifically with this playoff run and really with this year, I think that Tatum, it feels like he has a cap on him. Okay, that's fair. And Mo's been on this for really the entire year.
Starting point is 00:52:41 But I'm watching the Celtics team. and for a team that has this much talent and a guy who is first team all NBA there shouldn't be as much doubt that we have about the Celtics if they like like if you take Shay if that's if that's your line
Starting point is 00:52:57 right of where Tatum is for you personally and if you take Shay and you put him on the Celtics I doubt that I'd say that we believe in the Celtics much more than we do right now and it just feels like it feels like it feels like there isn't I'm not again I'm not saying Tatum is bad I'm not saying he's a bum I'm not saying he's a fraud
Starting point is 00:53:18 All I'm all I'm saying is top seven top five He just might not be that level of player That's fine I mean he's at the conversation telling me he's at worst eight or nine So I think top 15 is where I'm like All right let's be serious now But I understand He doesn't have quite the ceiling of some other superstars
Starting point is 00:53:36 And I think that's mostly about the way it looks Like he doesn't have the scoring avalanches that we just saw Anthony Edwards do that we see you can shake scores and bunches but his floor is his score his floor is super high he's a highest floor star two-way player that can fit in any scheme great defensively can play on or off ball we've seen them score 50 points in game sevens before like we've seen him do crazy stuff and i've seen donovan mitchell average 37 in a series and and like we're still like and there's still there's still areas where you think Donovan Mitchell may not be able to carry a team or be the number one option.
Starting point is 00:54:12 Like, again, I'm not saying, I'm not saying that he's everything, that everything bad that everybody's saying is. But for guys like Jimmy Butler, who rises, for guys like DeMitch, for guys like, you know, even Devin Booker or Kevin Durant, those guys we've all kind of said, they are really, really good in the playoffs. Some of them are risers. And Jason Tatum has not been. He hasn't been a faller.
Starting point is 00:54:38 He's having, he had a rough week and a half on a team that is incredibly loaded and isn't as reliance on him so he doesn't take as many shots as he did last year He hasn't been a bump for six months. We're acting like it's so much more dramatic than it is We've seen him be great in playoff series many times before this season we didn't have a super team They're just they're asking less of him now and he's not being as consistently high volume of a shooter But we don't got to pretend the past few years didn't happen I'm not going to lie It makes it so much easier to hate on Tatum Since he's a Celtic
Starting point is 00:55:11 That's what my thanks on it You're so unbashful about it You're like fucking Celtics suck Yeah exactly He could be on the most arena He could be on the Utah jet Well actually they're in the same category So not the Utah Jazz
Starting point is 00:55:24 But like on some on the most random team And I would feel as much static as I do But yeah Something I will say is like for him and what he does best and how the Celtics built this team around him it just makes issues
Starting point is 00:55:41 that he has like even worse magnified because they still don't or haven't had like a true point or whatever and how they get all the playmaking responsibilities done is just dissected and it's just by committee you know they don't have Mike Conley to like let's take a look at this little shit down and all that
Starting point is 00:56:01 in his last series against in the first around against Miami. He averaged 21 points per game, right? And I was like, oh my God, the sky's falling. He's a bum. Before that, he averaged 21 points per game in 2022 finals against the Warriors, a series where we know the Warriors locked him the fuck down. Outside of that, every single playoff series, since 2020, he's averaged 25 points per game or more. The minimum is 25, much more than are closer to 30. He's a playoff performer. He's consistently the same Jason Tatum we see in the regular season. I don't think we need to label him like some kind of playoff dropper just because we see other guys have had some ridiculous few games he is very
Starting point is 00:56:35 consistent see the thing yeah it's just like for me i can agree with looking at jason tatum and donovan mitchell in like a similar tier because it's like you guys are fucking insane scores obviously jason tatum's defense is like a genuine it's a genuine upgrade but so is like the level of shooter that donovan mitchell is that's like starting to consider as well the thing with both of those two is just like what are you going to do that just is like unfuck withable what are you going to do that that can control the entire flow of the game and make you like unfuck withable you know and i can't envision that for guys like jacin satem and that's like i like i me preferably i'd group in minute with someone like don't have been mitchell and be like yeah i see
Starting point is 00:57:21 these two as like similar enough players yeah and i get that and again he's like i said but he's a high floor not as much of a high ceiling guy so i understand the desire to want somebody who can take over and win a game more so than he does but I think it's definitely also like a balance thing where you know yes he doesn't have that
Starting point is 00:57:39 quite that same ability as consistently we've seen him do in the past like I said he's had 50 in the game seven before so it's not like he never does it but I think it's a thing that weighs itself out in overall his impact and how we can play off ball how we can defend at a high level space the floor
Starting point is 00:57:53 pass enough do all these things I think it weighs itself out in that way and that's fair that's fair i'm not saying i'm not saying at all that tatum is a bad player i'm not i don't even want to call him a fraud or bring that like terminology into this conversation but what what i what i am saying is there are it feels like right now that there are some deficiencies in in terms of just how jason tatum is as the as the number one option where mo says like he hasn't gotten to that level that you look at you look at at some of like
Starting point is 00:58:28 the best players where it doesn't really matter what's going around them like what's going on around them they're going to be able to kind of cut through and we've seen luca do it she can roll out of bed get 30 right and so you can you can you can discuss about you know how impactful that is but for tatum to be 6 9 260 have the widest shoulders in in the game like it doesn't ever it doesn't ever seem like he is ever seem like he is ever like unequivocally the best player in the game and so for somebody at that level who we talk about as like a six in the league seventh in the league i feel like we should have more moments of that for tatum and we just don't and so that's what i'm saying going into next season if that doesn't that doesn't happen this playoff run or or even
Starting point is 00:59:20 next year i don't know if we're having the same conversations about them i can understand that i mean I think the biggest thing would be younger players passing him up like you said and Wembe are people we can which is crazy
Starting point is 00:59:30 because he's like 27 he's like 28 like he's like he's like he's like in his prime and the fact that 23 year olds are passing him up that's that's kind of
Starting point is 00:59:39 it's kind of crazy that we can even envision it it's just that's just more about generational talents coming to league you know it's not really any fault of his own it's just that there's crazy
Starting point is 00:59:46 players coming up that are replacing the older ones that have aged out that Tatam's passed up it's kind of just natural hierarchy how it goes over the years
Starting point is 00:59:52 but at 27 when you're in the peak of your powers Well he's not slowing down It's not about him It doesn't matter what age he is When Wembe hits his prime He's gonna be better
Starting point is 01:00:02 It has zero to do with Tatum It's just these Greek gods get born Sometimes Yeah We're in the most talented era Basketball field We've been saying this We literally say this every single year
Starting point is 01:00:14 It's insane He's on watch He's on watch I'll say that Fair enough It's gonna be hilarious If he wins the finals Average night 22 points per game
Starting point is 01:00:21 And everyone seems like Oh fuck he finally got it But it's with a super team Yeah Even more funny when Derek White wins finals MVP over him. Oh, that'd be awesome. That's going to be real nasty discourse. Let me get these donos before we can move on to next playoff series.
Starting point is 01:00:34 Shout out to Javan, I'm not sure you pronounce it. He said, you donate $5. He said, I'm very out of the loop on the draft. But who do you think the Spurs will draft fourth? Hopefully Rob Dillingham, but we have a lot of time to really think more about it. Some guard. We'll do a mock draft in a couple months for now. Next one.
Starting point is 01:00:49 For sure. Shout out to Anon for tipping $5. He said, I'm so team Isaac here. y'all slander Tatum so much about the 30 balls like he doesn't average 27 also you're taking dudes who have no playoff success over someone with finals appearances appearance let's not say appearances thank you one time but that is something that is something that's hard to do that is true and I give you props for that still doesn't matter I'm not taking Tatum fair enough so you're just a hater and you own it so I understand I can't even argue with you you're just like fuck them
Starting point is 01:01:19 they wins the finals and averages 25 or 26 or whatever it takes and wins that finals MVP I'll give up my hater badge. But for now, I'm on it. Fair enough. Shout to Bandover, Tim, $1. Did y'all see when Gobert almost injured himself picking up cat from the ground? I thought that Tim's fucked up.
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Starting point is 01:02:26 we don't have 500 likes that is the same and that's 110% your fault watching right now what are you going to do about it let's talk about the new york nix new york next we're up to oh in this series we're looking like they were going to edge out and find a way to advance the conference finals fulfilled donald's prophecy as a nix fan
Starting point is 01:02:48 when he spoke into existence post ogena nobie trade and then ojianobie's like fell off. Straight off the bone. Hamstring injury for like the fifth time in the past three years of his career. And they proceed to lose the next two games. They're an infirmary team. Mr. Robinson is also out. We know Julius Randall hasn't played. All the Sharves been playing 48 minutes a night. They're looking gassed. They're getting right off the court for two games in a row. How are you feeling, Donovan? I mean, I don't know. Listen, it is what it is. I said after game two, I put out a video talking about, you know, the Knicks and their, you know, and
Starting point is 01:03:23 they're, they're running everything. And I said in that video, I wouldn't be shocked if game two was the last win of the next season. Oh, wow. Why did you say that? What was reasoning? Well, one, because OG was hurt. But you, if you look at, like, if you look at the ways that they were winning those games, they were all coming down to the last five minutes of the game. the Knicks were getting every single questionable call go their way even when you go back to the Philly series right like all those games are super super close and you just can't keep going like that it's really really hard to keep winning games like that and for the Knicks to not have Randall Boyard Mitch and and OG between those four guys that's like 55 to 60 points that you're taking out of the lineup that you're asking everybody else to to overcome guys we saw alec burks and jericho sims minutes jericho sims in the second round of the playoffs bro like the team is just so down bad the depth was already um an issue
Starting point is 01:04:30 coming in to the series that was one of the things that we talked about where i was like it's not going to be easy playing the pacers because not only do they play fast but they have bodies that they can throw at at the nix and new york just doesn't have that and so if the nicks end up losing this series in six it will make sense and they're just going to have to go back to your drumboard and hope that next year everybody's healthy but yeah it sucks man it sucks they I think they could probably win in the game
Starting point is 01:04:58 I don't know if they're going to lose in six like you're saying but listen you can only deal with so many injuries like they're already overachieving because they didn't have Randall and that's just even no matter how you feel about Randall that's $30 million a salary on the bench that you don't have to replace with other people you know you're just depleted based on how you're distributing your money that's a big part of your team
Starting point is 01:05:16 they were good aside from that but you can only lose so many bodies before it starts to take a toll and OG is the most important player of this team besides Brunson when we saw them acquire OG Anobi they immediately became the best defense in the league and looked unstoppable he got hurt
Starting point is 01:05:31 and they looked mid as fuck for the next month it's no coincidence that he came back and they looked great in the playoffs they need him because you see these lineups they can put Josh Hart at the power four position now and maintain spacing and shooting but then you're smallest shit and you have him
Starting point is 01:05:44 guarding Pascal Seyakum which is a mismatch for obvious reasons or you can go big and put precious Sachua out there and then your spacing sucks it's awful they have no combination of spacing and size now with OG gone
Starting point is 01:05:56 who is like the best combination of spacing and size you could want from a good defender like that it's just so clear that the hole he leaves there's nobody else in the roster that can fill that and it makes it hard to put together elite lineups that can really keep up
Starting point is 01:06:08 with the team that's fully healthy yeah it's rough man It's rough. So, yeah, I don't know what's going to happen in game five. They're coming back to the crib. I'd be shocked if we, like, got destroyed again just because the Pacers had one of the best shooting outings that they had, and it's fine. And the Knicks for all of their shooting, you know, like prowess that they've showed
Starting point is 01:06:34 throughout the playoffs, Jaylen Brunson had a bad game. After four straight, five straight, whatever it was, 35, 40-point games, you're going to have one bad game it's okay but they can't they they have very little margin for error and jalen brunson needs to come out and he can't start slow they can't afford it so yeah yeah who do you think he's gonna win chas fam it off who do you think is winning the series now yeah at this point in time it's just looking like it's it might be cooks whether it's like six games or seven games or whatever it is i'm like 100% leaning the pastures away health the biggest thing biggest reason why they're just
Starting point is 01:07:11 simply overtaxed at this point and relying on Dalyland Bruns to still give you 35 while he's laboring on a strained foot while like his second his second third option on the court O. Jananovi is gone. You're asking for too much at that point and you're just overtaxed. Yeah. And Tyrese Halliburton's three-point shot is coming back. He looks more like Tyre's Halliburton now. He's playing well. Two shit 35 point games, 20 in the last game, but four for 10 from three, shot 40%. He's looking like close. sort of healthy Tyrese Halliburton which he I'm sure he is healthy right the hamstring was in fucking January I don't know if it's still affecting him but he's looking good Tj McConnell is the
Starting point is 01:07:49 difference this bench is eating the Knicks alive who are like I said incredibly thin all their players are hurt and then you have the pacers who have the best bench advantage in the league right now of remaining playoff teams it's just a lot to overcome yeah I listen I I I disagree with that though because the like the Pacers bench has been going crazy the Knicks bench has been The link's been to scoring like 80 points a game. Are they really? Josh Hart, Dante D. Josh Hart, Dante, Hart, inside.
Starting point is 01:08:20 All these guys are bench players. They started the year on the bench, and now they're here playing 48 minutes. That's what you mean. You know what I'm saying? Bruce McBride. When did he have a 20-point game? I was like, what are we talking about? All these guys started, they all started the year on the bench, and now they're playing 48
Starting point is 01:08:36 minutes in the second round. And the number one thing that we are going to talk about right now, and if they lose this series. It's going to be the talk of the entire offseason, which is Tom, it's going to be Tom playing his guys to exhaustion. Can you keep doing this? Is this sustainable? He ran his guys into the ground. And that's going to be the idea or the prevailing narrative going into the off season. But for the next, like, you just have to, it sucks, but you have to hope that next year you're going to be healthier. I can't believe the Pacers are going to be in the conference finals. The team is so mid. Dude.
Starting point is 01:09:11 2021 repeat this too all right all right all right come all right all right all right we're not going to have those conversations right now but we'll spare you but we'll say this if this just shows how important it is in the NBA to like not waste any time and truly try your best every single year because things always happens injuries happen and shit like that and the indiana patients i'm not sure if they make i'm not sure they make it this far if they didn't trade for like Pascal Seaccom like this season. And because they're having so much playoff experiences as they've exposed what needs to be developed on their team.
Starting point is 01:09:49 And we all know what they're really good at, with they're really bad at. And we just got a lot of information. But this shows how important it to literally try every single year because you never know. And I know like Milwaukee Bucks fans are just feeling really down bad right now because injury luck, of course, kick their ass. And it's just another waste of year when they could have been in the specific situation,
Starting point is 01:10:07 trotting their way to the NBA finals. Or easy car with finals, at least. How unfortunate. Now we're going to be watching Pascal Siak when Tyro's Halliburian get blown out by the Celtics while all we talk about is, why did the Celtics lose one game? Ah, the sky is falling.
Starting point is 01:10:20 And we're going to see the Celtics get to the finals with zero resistance. It's going to be nasty. Sick. We can move on to the next series. Let's talk about the Celtics. Celtics versus the Cavaliers. Once again, two series in a row,
Starting point is 01:10:32 the Celtics lose game two, and the sky fucking fell off. Everyone freaked out. We came back game three. One pretty easy. Now they're up 2-1. And Donovan Mitchell was not playing tonight in game four. Obviously not a good thing.
Starting point is 01:10:45 Obviously, I think they're going to lose. We'll see. The crazy things have happened. But I'm not expecting a Cavaliers win. So I'm expecting the Celtics to be up 3-1. Ready to go to the conference finals. How are y'all feeling? Man, the Celtics' whole path has been the most boring path of all time.
Starting point is 01:11:02 Their expectations is literally championship-abust. And on top of that, you give them a Jimmy Butler less Miami Heat. You give them a Cleveland Cavaliers who nobody has believed in for three months now, and now D. Mitch is out. And then you're probably going to give them a Knicks team who has six players or a Pacer's team that everybody knows is like, you know, run fast, track meet style of basketball. It's ridiculous how easy their path is right now.
Starting point is 01:11:33 So I really don't care about the series right now. But shout out to them. Yeah, because of them, right? I was just going to say, like, the Celtics just feel like the most put-up or shut-up team ever. Like, okay, we get it nice. But we all want to see you overcome what hasn't been able to been achieved since, like, 2008 for this franchise. What were you going to say, Isaac? Uh, I don't even know.
Starting point is 01:11:56 Oh. Yeah, I don't much to add. missing, I don't much to add. They're obviously without Chris Osporzingis, which is a significant blow to some extent. But they still have enough. our power to beat this Cavs team, even without him. And now that Demet's gone is and give them essentially what we think is probably a free win, barring something crazy.
Starting point is 01:12:14 I think there's nothing to talk about anymore. The Cavs don't have a chance. We're going to look forward to their offseason for all the reasons we've talked about, right? Big decisions to make with Darius Garland pooping his pants, with Jared Allen not being there now, and we see if Mobley as a center, do you feel that that's promising? Do you feel like he needs to stay power forward? Lots of decisions be made for them. But I think it's business as usual for the Celtics.
Starting point is 01:12:34 Listen, Max Streets game tonight Max Chew's game 6 plus 3s Let's book it Hammer the overs This game really tells us what Darius Garland is about What is his line at? Let me see what Max Drew That is something to watch
Starting point is 01:12:48 Let's mention that Because Darius Garland Has had a struggling year In large part because people think The fit with Donald Metro wasn't great Also he had that injury That caused him to lose a lot of weight He had that was it a broken jaw
Starting point is 01:13:00 That made him lose a lot of weight And he hasn't been able to put it back on And get to the rim at all since then we'll see if the fit issue's gone no de Mitch you put the ball in his hands
Starting point is 01:13:09 and tell him to win us a game we'll see how he responds legacy's on the line on the lowest max max shoots his line two and a half
Starting point is 01:13:18 for three have threes he's knocking at hey man I try listen I'll talk to y'all real quick they're going to make
Starting point is 01:13:27 some investments okay jontay okay jontay All right, you can move on. Listen, the Celtics will have plenty to talk about them in the future. Not much to say right now.
Starting point is 01:13:39 Let's talk about the other most exciting series because we're getting back to the West for games that matter, games that are interesting. Thunder versus Dallas Mavericks. Dallas Mavericks took a 2-1 lead after PJ Washington once again came up big, once again made the Thunder pay
Starting point is 01:13:55 for leading them open in the corner, made all the shots needed, defended at a high level. 2-1 lead now for the team that I think when healthy we all would have picked them we all did our power rings end of the season and we all ranked them as ahead of the thunder I think but Luca hasn't been healthy
Starting point is 01:14:09 and Max and Cleave is not there so there was some question marks right it was like maybe he's lokey more like Thunder and 7 because they're really good too right now it's still anybody series I think what do you think go ahead I was gonna say like I still have I almost have no idea who's winning this series still and all the ways that the Dallas Mavericks have
Starting point is 01:14:30 one, I would have imagined that they have lost. PJ Tucker being the consistent in the series was not foreseen to me at all. Luca Dunge is laboring on that knee still. Of course, like not being the Lucas, the Luca we've known over the last 80 games or whatever, that makes a difference. So, but at the same time, the Oklahoma City Thunder and what they're doing with Josh giddy it just kills all momentum and it's just literally like a free 10 points always on the board whenever he's on the court because of what he does on both ends like anytime he's on the
Starting point is 01:15:07 court it's quite literally like six on four you know at that point in time I think right now I'm encouraged by what I'm seeing by Dallas defensively mostly I think it'll still be close I still think it's going seven but I unless we see a big adjustment from the thunder I'm leaning more towards Mavs and seven right now which is easy to say when they're up to one right they have a one-game advantage. But I think they're doing a really good job, especially we saw in the third quarter, the second half this last game.
Starting point is 01:15:32 They really forced the Thunder into isolation, got them out of their offense they want to do, by just having a really switch-heavy scheme and forcing Shea to attack good defenders one-on-one, which they have a lot of. And that's why they lost this game. The first half was really close. The Thunder had a lead,
Starting point is 01:15:47 and they blew that shit in the third quarter. They had like a 16-4 run where the Mavs came out and just beat the shit out of them in the third quarter. Thunder were getting locked up. taking terrible shots, not doing the normal small, small pick and rolls, not doing the normal stuff,
Starting point is 01:16:01 just forcing bad shots in isolation, looking like the Phoenix Suns. And I thought that was just like, you guys are blowing it, what are you doing? Call a timeout, Mark Dagnol, get some shit drawn up. But when you go back and watch it, I think it was more of the mad's defense
Starting point is 01:16:13 did a really good job of taking away those pick and rolls and forcing them to beat switching defenses, and they just didn't have the counters for it. And I don't know if they're going to be able to fix that. Yeah, I agree. And I think, like, that's game two, in game three, and maybe even, yeah, no, game, game one was, was a blowup. But yeah, but for game two
Starting point is 01:16:32 and game three, those were the kinds of games that I thought Oklahoma City would win in this series. And so, like, coming into the, coming into this round, I thought that OKC would be better just because all playoffs and even all year, they've shown a really, really high ability to execute down the stretch. And Shea has done it time and time again, like just being a super clutch player making tough shots. He's three of 11 in the last two fourth quarters. And it's not good. And what Isaac just said is very, very key.
Starting point is 01:17:06 And this is my main takeaway from game three is that Shea normally is able to get to his spots and he can knock down shots from anywhere. It felt in game three, like he could not get anything that he wanted. It felt like every shot that he put up was a bad shot, that he forced everything. What's up? Wow, we'll fall asleep, bro That's so crazy I put you on the isocanus now
Starting point is 01:17:29 Because you're falling asleep I'm not gonna lie I was literally falling asleep I've been yawning like eight times so far I put you on the ice okay Because I saw it And you're I don't know why I'm so sleepy
Starting point is 01:17:43 That's so rude You're getting bored to sleep By the Dallas man My apologies I don't know why I'm so sleepy bro i'm telling you i think you're an arcolectic i think you need to go to a doctor i've never done that before i think you need a diagnosis on the stream is crazy i close my eyes a couple of times and i'm like i'll be fine
Starting point is 01:18:11 but this time my mind just went somewhere else they said they said your forehead is so big it brought your whole face down down on sideways some spabit unc facts but yeah man what was I gonna say first game we saw the thunder
Starting point is 01:18:32 pretty easily beat them and weirdly enough the thunder had a huge rebounding advantage and you know that's always been a weakness of theirs the maps weren't able
Starting point is 01:18:39 to make them pay they wore these last two games that's flipped and we're seeing typical thunder weakness there and just we talked about it all year
Starting point is 01:18:47 they needed back up big and neglected to do that because they thought the options that they could acquire weren't meaningfully better than Jalen Williams Big Jailen Williams Big Jaylon Williams
Starting point is 01:18:54 And he has looked like ass He has not been particularly good He's getting dominated down low Not making it up for it with threes and skill They just basically don't have a backup big at all And that's really coming back to bite them It's tough, it's tough man Like we've we've said all year
Starting point is 01:19:11 We've said all year Go out get yourself Another big body Go out and get yourself somebody else That will make sure that you are not getting dominated On the boards and instead they opted to go get a Josh Giddy replacement, which is fair, right?
Starting point is 01:19:28 Like, if that's going to be the movie, you want to roll with Chatt and Big Jalen Williams, okay, because we've seen how Giddy has performed. But when that replacement is Gordon Hayward and he's worse than Josh Giddy, that's the problem. When your main in-season acquisition is worse than the guy you were trying to replace with him.
Starting point is 01:19:49 If there's one move that Mark Dagnol can do to get back in this series, it is remove all white boys from the rotation that aren't named Chet Holmgren. These guys suck. Josh Giddy has been obviously a big weakness for them. They've been losing his minutes consistently.
Starting point is 01:20:03 He's only been playing 13 minutes a game. No, Mark Dog not knows this and has limited his minutes. Gordon Hayward only played three minutes his last game because he has yet to score a single point in this series. He's played 48 minutes with zero points. Literal cardio.
Starting point is 01:20:15 He is literally ineffective in every way just out there collecting a paycheck, quiet quitting. No more white boys, Mark Dagnall. You have one in Chet. You've hit your quota. No more. No more minutes.
Starting point is 01:20:28 It's Chet and Mark Dagnall. Those are the two white boys who are allowed to be within five feet of the court. Everybody else stay in the locker room. We'll talk to you guys after the game. But, no, man. Okay, so I think that they win tonight. I think that they do even up this series. I'd be very shocked if Dallas went up 3-1.
Starting point is 01:20:48 Just because these games also, for, As bad as Giddy has been for as many issues that the Thunder have had, they've been right there for the taking. They've been, you know what I'm saying? Like, they are one or two plays down the stretch of games to, you know, away from winning these games being up to one instead of being down to one. And it was a... None, no.
Starting point is 01:21:13 I thought my mom was falling asleep again. But, like, one of the key plays from game three, like the... It was either game through a game two. I can't remember. But Luca had a steal at half court. And like the Thunder were cutting it back down to four and could it, you know, could have tied the game, could have made it a one possession game. And Luca is making key plays on defense.
Starting point is 01:21:36 And that's also another thing that we've talked about, where if he's going to step up and not be a complete cone and give you something and now you're playing five on five defense rather than four on five defense, that's also a huge plus for the map. So there's that aspect of it, but I do think. okay see we'll be able to shoot better number one three point shooting team in the regular season have haven't been that with the last two games
Starting point is 01:21:57 I think they can get back to that and win tonight yeah again series is too close to call yet we still many things could change I still think it's going seven but you're definitely feeling good if you're a mass fan because they're taking the advantage early which is very important in a series that's going to be this close yeah we still haven't something that's like encouraging if you're a mass fan
Starting point is 01:22:16 also is like we haven't seen the Kyrie game just yet he put up 20 points once another game he was like two for seven from the field didn't play well but i believe the math still won through all the other little things that he was doing he's been playing literally the best basketball of his career never seen the version of kairi that's that's been this like more this well-rounded and so like knowing that knowing kairi irving's tendencies and like he's just bound to explore for 35 40 it might happen soon and if i'm a dallas mavix
Starting point is 01:22:47 fan i see his game so far he's been okay throughout this or good throughout the series but we all know he has another not to take it to you yeah um yeah we'll see tonight will be a big deciding factor for this series if the thunder come back and win still anybody series the masgoe 3-1 they're cooked are they donations real quick yes if the mazgoe 3-1 that means the thunder are cooked I think it's for sure over I think I don't think the thunder are coming back down 3-1 now I trust him we'll see shout to p. Krispy for
Starting point is 01:23:18 donating $20 he's the first chance I got to catch the live Love the pod and the Tatum hate is blasphemous. It's got a selfish fan on this. It's not hate. It's just a question. That's it. Just me noticing. That's all.
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Starting point is 01:23:44 Luca will be the hardened of this era. MVP's but no rings. Tough. No rings. It's tough, man. Bold statement. And shout to Carlos. tipping one dollar y'all i say y'all are currently cooking mo in the chat right now i'm seeing tuck
Starting point is 01:23:56 mo in all this stuff he's tweaking off the melatonin cooking mo has been a running theme on twitter for the past few days if you guys haven't noticed yes and uh it started really it started like maybe two three weeks ago now when a member of td3 whose name will not be mentioned because he's currently under suspension went ahead and leaked a picture from a photo shoot that we had back in december took a bad picture of me when I was like halfway blinking or whatever posted it okay cool found the rat in the in the camp and he has been suspended from all td3 activities folks went from just posting a picture then playing tic-tac toe on my forehead listen i know i know look listen i'm a man of honesty even honest with myself my forehead isn't the smallest of the world but it's
Starting point is 01:24:45 not as fucking crazy as y'all make it see so i want to make it you all want to make it crazy do tic-tac-toe congratulations. What's been done over the last 17 hours has been ridiculous. I've had folks go ahead and print out. That's a lot of space. I'm not going to lie to you, but it's not that crazy. This is a leap. This is elite, by the way. Two people did this. I reached with the first one, shout at him. Then two for two for one came out and did this an incredibly high quality. He colored graded and everything. This is amazing. We get it. You make great videos two for one. congratulations. This is hilarious.
Starting point is 01:25:24 Just, damn. I know. I know. But after that, it got more and more outrageous because. Somebody praying for me. Someone went ahead, two things. Someone went ahead and printed out a picture of that picture right there and put it above their bed.
Starting point is 01:25:45 Brother, where is your father? Something else that someone did. they went ahead he's in the chat right now shout out goat he's in their chat right I see him he's laughing
Starting point is 01:25:53 yeah go bring your dad on the chat so I can tell him what the fuck you'd be doing and how you used to tell him your free time
Starting point is 01:25:57 because that's crazy shout out look at goat look at this guy I love you go this is amazing there's a fucking picture
Starting point is 01:26:04 he drew a picture of me Isaac and Donovan Isaac's on my shoulder like the fucking devil and angel oh that's somebody else we get to that
Starting point is 01:26:12 this guy put the printout of the damn thing over his bed he's going to sleep tonight with the mojo noggin looking over him wishing him sweet dreams incredible
Starting point is 01:26:25 we got some cardinals memorability around around here guys pop from st louis saint louis legend mohammed cocker it's him in sexy red crazy hell he was sexy red and listen somebody drew me after that and they put
Starting point is 01:26:45 mo's forehead as big at the top What, this drawing is hilarious He just threw this on there Mo's forehead is big That is a crazy You're getting cooked Sprinkle it in And then after that
Starting point is 01:27:01 Somebody responded this morning By drawing all three of us That is crazy First and foremost My forehead looks like Accurate You guys ever seen No
Starting point is 01:27:11 You guys ever seen Hey Arnold A black friend Like, if you ever seen, if you ever curious what his head looks like, he has all that like a weird ass throat, that's what it is. Shade. I look like a pinky. That's what I look like. All right. I just like playing devil in show. He's the devil on my shoulder or whatever. And Donovan looks like he just learned English yesterday. I don't know why the fuck. They made him look like a caricature of a certain race of people that is incredibly racist. I won't say which one. But I look crazy. you all need to do better things of your time oh my god donovan looks wild don't even look straight dominican why didn't he had the elkiers bapie i just see it i literally just went and got my hair cut yesterday or two days ago and they made his beard like this crispy ass lineup like it's the spray like he just has
Starting point is 01:28:10 his chin strap of fucking duct tape you know it is you're straight Puerto rican got hit with that spice ball you know what I'm saying and Mo I don't even know to start with this just know you're racist as fuck dude look at the nose
Starting point is 01:28:27 I didn't even think about that it's a big little light bulb yeah and look at the hat looks like I have a fucking pan on my head like what the fuck it's a pot on your head we're making mac and cheese
Starting point is 01:28:41 with your head like this is your ridiculous, bro. It's just bent on all angles. Oh, my God. You just look crazy. My, the little me they drew is like scary looking. Like, it's nightmare people. Just a grimmling. Yeah, just like a devil on my shoulder telling me to make all the wrong decisions in life. It's like, yeah, whoever drew this, like, I'm going to tap in with you, get you start. I'm going to start up some like after school activities or whatever it is with you. Like, you can do much better with your time on your hands for sure. Yonis Zilla. Yeah, we need to get you in a program somewhere. We need to get you some help. Absolutely. Putting a picture above your bed is like nut shit. Shut our gut, man.
Starting point is 01:29:26 I feel like there is one other I'm forgetting, but I guess not. Oh, yeah. So I said, I remember you was conflicted. Me's using your influence. Sometimes I did the same. Abusing my power full of resentment. Resentment I turned into a deep depression. Found myself screaming in a hotel room.
Starting point is 01:29:43 I didn't want to self-destruct. with the evils of Lucy was all around me Ah loving you was complicated So I went looking for answers That's what I probably responded That was one of the best
Starting point is 01:30:03 The evils of Lucy was all around me That was one of the best They don't even do that again What's that? Do the ah again. Ah! Ah! Ah!
Starting point is 01:30:23 Top five of hip-hop album of all time. Don't forget it. Top one. Don't you can watch your fucking mouth. Don't get it twisted. Top one. That's hilarious, rough. What a stream.
Starting point is 01:30:37 Next week's debated the other day. Oh, no, I'm going to win. Just know I'm in passion. You just want him more. Also, one other thing before we get out of here, these little kids made this video, shout to them, and they were talking about SGA and Rob, the MVP, and this one kid on the right was hating on Yokic, and he said, he built like a minivan. He's driving down the 405.
Starting point is 01:30:58 The 405 is a highway in Los Angeles. This little kid right here cooked Yokish. That was shit was hilarious. Just because he's big doesn't mean he's good. He's a minivan, bro. He's driving down the 405. Bro, this would have been us If we were seven years old
Starting point is 01:31:14 And we all lived in the same city For sure This is exactly what I was doing This little kid making videos But making YouTube videos Since I was like 12 This is young me Yeah
Starting point is 01:31:24 There we go man That's the end of the stream I don't even know To sign off Shout out Mose for Ed We'll see y'all next time Activities and get a job Thank you.

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